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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue and Sider Dick Gabriel with

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<v Speaker 1>you on a Monday, And no it is not Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Pope Night, because that show is going to be on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats are on the road even as we speak down

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<v Speaker 1>in Oxford, So the Coaches Show and the state wide

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<v Speaker 1>shows with Darren, Heddrick and Me will be on Wednesday night.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've got the BBI for you tonight. Following a

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<v Speaker 1>weekend that it was really historic when you think about

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<v Speaker 1>it in so many ways, and there were a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of things that happened over the weekend that ordinarily we

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<v Speaker 1>would be talking about right off the top in depth.

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<v Speaker 1>But because of that Kentucky Arkansas game, we got to

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<v Speaker 1>shuffle the East. At the next segment with no disrespect,

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia Amore with a game for the ages, literally forty

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<v Speaker 1>three points in the win on the road at Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't a one woman show either that Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>needed everybody to pitch in because Oklahoma's a good team,

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<v Speaker 1>a top fifteen team just like the Wildcats. But it

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<v Speaker 1>just seemed like whenever Kentucky needed a bucket, Wildcats get

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<v Speaker 1>off to a big lead. It almost entirely evaporates, but

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<v Speaker 1>Aymore came through either on offense or defense. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that. We'll hear from her in the next segment. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA trade, just the blockbuster between the was a

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<v Speaker 1>three team deal Lakers, Jazz, and Mavericks, the team that

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of rooted for because my buddy's the playbook

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<v Speaker 1>play guy and I was a season ticket holder down there.

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<v Speaker 1>But Anthony Davis, the former Wildcat, now goes to the MAVs,

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<v Speaker 1>who get rid of Luka Doncics. And there's so much

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<v Speaker 1>debate online about that. If you're an NBA fan, you're

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<v Speaker 1>you've you've already, You're already in up to your ears

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<v Speaker 1>with this coverage, and so many commentators have checked in

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<v Speaker 1>on it, and some think the MAVs got the best

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Some think the Lakers got the best of it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why it's fascinating, but lost in a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>in the shuffles, d Aaron Fox finally gets to leave Sacramento.

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<v Speaker 1>He was traded as sand That's a good landing spot

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<v Speaker 1>for him. He'll play with Victor wembin Yama now who

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<v Speaker 1>just instantly got better because Fox will be feeding him

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<v Speaker 1>the basketball. So we'll talk about that in the next

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<v Speaker 1>segment as well. But of course we start with the

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats and the Razorbacks, and I've just kind of soaked

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<v Speaker 1>in some of the social media. You go crazy, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you try to follow all of it, And some

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<v Speaker 1>of the takes are well reasoned and some of them

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<v Speaker 1>are just nuts, including the one clown on Twitter he said,

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<v Speaker 1>now's the time to get rid of Pope. Do it now?

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<v Speaker 1>Come on what happened? Well and again, and somebody else tweeted,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't go. I'm paraphrasing. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>If they were missing two players, they should have won. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot look at the way Kentucky lost this game

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<v Speaker 1>and blow off the fact that there was no Lamant

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<v Speaker 1>Butler and no Andrew Carr for the most part. Look

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at how Pope constructed his roster, think

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<v Speaker 1>about how vital those two guys were in the process.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Carr was a huge get literally and figuratively for

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Pope. Lamont Butler was the lynch pin. He was

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who pulled it all together. He's your floor general,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call him. You're on court coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Why well, because he's a really good point guard and

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<v Speaker 1>he's one of the best defenders in America. What is

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<v Speaker 1>the weak point of this Kentucky team. It's defense and

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<v Speaker 1>we saw that on Saturday again, We've seen it all year. Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 1>like last year, Oh my gosh, you're comparing him to

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<v Speaker 1>last year, has outscored teams this year. Now, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this Kentucky team is a little bit better defensively than

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<v Speaker 1>last year. Last year's was one of the worst in America,

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<v Speaker 1>but it still has problems. This year's team and with

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<v Speaker 1>Nolamont Butler and all due respect to everybody who has

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<v Speaker 1>played point guard, they're just not the same defensively. And

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<v Speaker 1>Arkansas got good looks and I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people wondered why no zone, and my man Jay Scheidler

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted it, you know, absolutely called for zone. Well maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>but after the game Pope talked to somebody asked him

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<v Speaker 1>about that, and this caught me by surprise. Giving up

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<v Speaker 1>poorly Arkansas's played this year and giving up poorly it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed that not last year, but in years gone by,

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<v Speaker 1>Calipari's teams didn't play well against zones. The ball stuck

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<v Speaker 1>and dragged last year, not a problem. With Reed, Shephard

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<v Speaker 1>and Dillingham and Wagner penetrating stuff like that. But against zones,

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<v Speaker 1>Pope said, statistically, Arkansas this year has been markedly better

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<v Speaker 1>points per possession. That shocked me. Now. He also said,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm paraphrasing, I probably should have tried it. He

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<v Speaker 1>was second guessing the crack out of himself after the game,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when it came to rotation substitutions. He was trying

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of everything, and everybody complains, not everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot. No Trent Noah. Honestly, during the game,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, huh, we haven't seen Trent Noah. But as

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<v Speaker 1>I watched the game unfolded and I see Chandler getting

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<v Speaker 1>more minutes, it made sense because they couldn't stop Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I turned to Mark Mathis of the Owensboro newspaper,

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<v Speaker 1>sits next to me with ten minutes ago, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a ten point game, and I said, they can't win.

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<v Speaker 1>They kind of looked at me and said, they can't

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<v Speaker 1>get enough stops. They can't put enough stops together to

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<v Speaker 1>go on the run. It takes to erase this lead.

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<v Speaker 1>They've done it before this year. But Butler was a

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<v Speaker 1>huge part of that if you cannot string stops. Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>was doing a good job on the boards, relatively speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>but they could not stop Arkansas did his best to

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<v Speaker 1>slow Janelle Davis, who picks a great time to have

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<v Speaker 1>his best game. He had been a disappointment after transferring

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<v Speaker 1>in from Florida Atlantic. He was one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>guys in the portal, but hadn't played that way. Well

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<v Speaker 1>he did Saturday night, and the three former Wildcats played superbly.

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<v Speaker 1>And I see grumbling about that, just to finish up

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<v Speaker 1>on Trent Noa. No, I wouldn't have helped him on

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<v Speaker 1>defense the way he needed the way they needed help.

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<v Speaker 1>But the former Wildcats, especially Thierro Wagner, had a great game,

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<v Speaker 1>and so did Big z.

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<v Speaker 2>Old.

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<v Speaker 1>Wagner never played that way when he was here. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a year older, stronger, smarter, spent the year working

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<v Speaker 1>on his game. He still obviously believes he belongs in

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA, and the NBA guys told him, here's what

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<v Speaker 1>you got to do, and he did it in the postseason.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the other interesting thing. The guy who is

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<v Speaker 1>considered by me and a lot of other people their

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<v Speaker 1>best player is done. Boogie Flan but having watched Arkansas,

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<v Speaker 1>that looked to me like a team that was sitting

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<v Speaker 1>back and waiting for Boogie to fix things, to take

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<v Speaker 1>care of things on offense. Now without him, they're sharing

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<v Speaker 1>the load, and that's what they did Saturday against Kentucky. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they had the emotional advantage in my opinion, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>their coach was under fire, they were under fire. Those

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<v Speaker 1>guys heard the booing and they fed off of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't aghast or disappointed at the booing. It happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew it would. I wonder what happens next time

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<v Speaker 1>Cali Perry shows. Won't be for a year or two,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. But once the game began, it wasn't an

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<v Speaker 1>issue anymore, and that's the way it should be. There

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<v Speaker 1>was some booing, you know, when early in the game

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<v Speaker 1>other former Wildcats would touch the ball or whatever. What

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<v Speaker 1>concerned me more than anything was the booing by Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>fans in the last couple of minutes where I sit upstairs,

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<v Speaker 1>way at the top, and from up there I could

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<v Speaker 1>hear the booing. And I've always been adamantly opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>booing college athletes until now. Now I'm torn on it

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<v Speaker 1>because they're pros. They make good NIL money. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>them make great NIO money. So now I'm not heated

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I'm lukewarm about it. And you know the nonsense. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not booing them, we're booing the coach. You're booing

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<v Speaker 1>everybody especially and it didn't happen the other night. But

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<v Speaker 1>when a coach puts a player in and people boo,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not booing the player, we're booing the coach. We're

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<v Speaker 1>putting in the player. It's the same thing. So anyhow,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, boo if you like, that's your prerogative. But

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<v Speaker 1>to finish off this segment, people are upset now with

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<v Speaker 1>the former Wildcats who spoke out on behalf of Caliperi

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<v Speaker 1>on social media, including Reed Shepherd who did the john

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<v Speaker 1>Y Brown thing. Part of him was blue, part of

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<v Speaker 1>him was red. Somebody was upset that the shirt was red.

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<v Speaker 1>It was over a trun whatever. But it made me

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<v Speaker 1>understand that this is all a press, not new number one.

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<v Speaker 1>The Kentucky players who played under Patino rooted like crazy

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<v Speaker 1>for him, and as he was coaching Louisville, unless ul

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<v Speaker 1>was playing Kentucky, and you can draw a line right there,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, but he's there guy. And with Caliperry,

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<v Speaker 1>it's even more pronounced. With the guys who were being

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<v Speaker 1>criticized because how long were they here? Not very long

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<v Speaker 1>at all. They didn't have the opportunity to build a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with the fan base the way older players did.

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<v Speaker 1>Playing for three or four years, the most intense relationship

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<v Speaker 1>they had was with their coach, the guy who brought

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<v Speaker 1>them here and in some instances was the biggest factor

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<v Speaker 1>in their lives for no more than nine months, not

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<v Speaker 1>even a full calendar year. You know. Had they stayed

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<v Speaker 1>here throughout their careers and maybe moved here after their

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<v Speaker 1>pro career was over or whatever, they might approach it

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<v Speaker 1>a little differently. But to expect them to be upset

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<v Speaker 1>with Caliperi because Arkansas be Kentucky is not realistic in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion. And they took the social media like everybody

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<v Speaker 1>and weighed in, and they all said I had not

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<v Speaker 1>heard one remark or read one remark from any of

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<v Speaker 1>them saying I'm no longer a UK backer. They're going

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<v Speaker 1>to back their guy as well as the Wildcats. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't word it the way cousins. All of those

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<v Speaker 1>guys did they root for Caliperry, But I guarantee you

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<v Speaker 1>they were rooting for Kentucky to beat Arkansas. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see any of the guys who are under fire right now,

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<v Speaker 1>ty Tye or Reed Shepherd, whoever, prior to the game

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<v Speaker 1>saying Josh Sheeryl Parkinsaw Wins never saw that. But now

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<v Speaker 1>it's behind us and Kentucky is in a tough spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Foreign four in the league, hitting the road minus Lamont

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<v Speaker 1>Butler and for the most part Andrew carrt We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>if he gets better this week. Tom Leach is next

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<v Speaker 1>the voice of the Cats. Later on Mike the Corsi

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<v Speaker 1>of the Sporting News and Christy Thomas of the SEC Network,

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<v Speaker 1>who covers the UK women. Back in a minute six

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<v Speaker 1>thirty WLAP welcome back. Coming up, Tom Leach's the voice

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wildcats. Mike de Corsi from The Sporting News,

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<v Speaker 1>pre eminent college basketball writer in this country, my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>and Christy Thomas from the UK Sports Network and SEC Plus.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk to about the UK women And as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>only the Caliperi comes back and upsets the Wildcat storyline

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<v Speaker 1>was big enough to kind of obliterate in this part

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<v Speaker 1>of the world, the rest of the news, because Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>was all about reacting, social media and all that. As

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<v Speaker 1>I said earlier, But on the professional front, you had

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<v Speaker 1>the blockbuster trade involving the Lakers and the Mavericks and

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Fox has traded. But you also the UK women

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<v Speaker 1>picking up a big victory out at Oklahoma. And this

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<v Speaker 1>was a game that you could have understood if the

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats came up short because Oklahoma's really good, and Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 1>was ranked if you put stock in this twelfth or thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on the pole you favor. Kentucky was ranked thirteenth

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<v Speaker 1>or twelfth, depending on the pole you favor, and the

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<v Speaker 1>I listen to most of the game with Derek or Darren,

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<v Speaker 1>Darren was pretty upset. Of course, he gets mad at

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of a lot. But the biggest story, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>with George aymore forty three points, tying a UK program

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<v Speaker 1>high and was just phenomenal absolutely incredible. She'll be an

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<v Speaker 1>All American. I don't know, first, second, third team, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But if she's the best point guard in the best conference,

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<v Speaker 1>Because she had forty three points on only twenty two shots,

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<v Speaker 1>other thing that I really impresses me. She drew seven fouls,

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<v Speaker 1>eight assists, only two turnovers, and played thirty nine minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>was thirteen, and she had only five points. But all

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<v Speaker 1>that means is Kentucky jumped out to its biggest leads

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<v Speaker 1>when she was on the floor. Doesn't say who was

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<v Speaker 1>the best player on the floor at a certain time,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was Georgia Aymore all day long. And somebody

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<v Speaker 1>And then head coach Kenny Brooks chimed in after.

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<v Speaker 3>She spoke, people rotate their gods, and I think I'm

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<v Speaker 3>aware of that when they send people to the to

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<v Speaker 3>the benches coming in, who's leaving, and I know exactly

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<v Speaker 3>of people. You know, I'll give you an example. Three

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<v Speaker 3>take it downhill. Todd was a little bit more relaxed

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<v Speaker 3>to get a shot. So that's the mind games I'm

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<v Speaker 2>She does a really good job.

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<v Speaker 4>She wants to be a coach, and so we're coaching

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<v Speaker 4>her differently, and we watch film differently. She watched it

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<v Speaker 4>just like a coach does, and we talk about, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>going to do that, And the benefit is is that

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<v Speaker 4>she comes over to me, you know, during a time

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<v Speaker 4>a stoppage and play and she says, hey, you know

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<v Speaker 4>me to ice of screen. Why don't we run the

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<v Speaker 4>and you know previous you know, when she was younger,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think it's fascinating that he coaches her differently

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<v Speaker 1>because she wants to be a coach number one and

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<v Speaker 1>number two. Maybe this is number one. They've been together

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<v Speaker 1>for so long, they know each other so well, and

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<v Speaker 1>he knows obviously just how good she is. But to me,

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<v Speaker 1>the most telling sign And Kenny Brooks talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>when somebody asked him earlier this year about scheduling because

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<v Speaker 1>the non conference scheduling was kind of weird. Early Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>had a hard time putting it scheduled together, and one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons was Georgia Aymore because when Kentucky was

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<v Speaker 1>struggling a bit, yeah, i'll play it, sure, we'll come

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<v Speaker 1>to town. Yeah. But when they heard the Georgia Aymore

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<v Speaker 1>had signed on with Kentucky. Well, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>we can make a election in this year. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that was fascinating and that flex as well on a

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<v Speaker 1>player as anything I have ever heard. Teams don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to come here and play US coaches say because we

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<v Speaker 1>got this kid, one kid point guard and she is

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest reason. There are many, many reasons and several

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<v Speaker 1>reasons Kentucky won yesterday, not just her, but she's the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest reason. In nineteen and two, eight and one in

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<v Speaker 1>conference play they won three in a row, undefeated at home. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got the toughest part of their schedule ahead. They

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<v Speaker 1>got to play at Ole Miss next week. This is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of their bye week. Next Monday, they play on

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<v Speaker 1>the mission. No game Thursday, no game Sunday, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the prime time game on Monday to tenth

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<v Speaker 1>at seven pm. Then after that, man, you got Texas

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<v Speaker 1>coming to town. I've talked about this before, Georgia, which

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<v Speaker 1>is struggling a bit, Miazoo, and then you close out

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<v Speaker 1>with LSU, Tennessee and South Carolina and the only one

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<v Speaker 1>somehow get past to LSU and Tennessee, which would be massive.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't it be something that the South Carolina Kentucky game

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<v Speaker 1>decided the SEC or at least to share the SEC

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<v Speaker 1>regular season championship. So tip of the cap Kenny Brooks,

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<v Speaker 1>and a big tip of the cap to Georgia Amore,

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<v Speaker 1>the Australian who is absolutely getting it done. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the Australian term is for that. Had Amelia

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<v Speaker 1>Hassett on the show the other night, and she talked

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<v Speaker 1>about they throw around some of the Australian jargon, the

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<v Speaker 1>slang and confuse their teammates, but on the floor, man,

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<v Speaker 1>they're all on the same page right now. Asset at

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<v Speaker 1>five point six boards. Clara Strack was huge, nineteen points

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<v Speaker 1>six rebounds. She did foul out. Tony Key did not

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<v Speaker 1>have a great She was in foul trouble a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>She only had two points and six boards for them

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<v Speaker 1>to win with her. Having modest numbers like that is unusual,

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<v Speaker 1>but Dojah Lawrence had a big game fourteen. Kentucky hit

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five percent in the first quarter and then after

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<v Speaker 1>that thirty five percent, thirty one percent, but in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter sixty four percent from the field. When the

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats needed it the most, and it was a three

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<v Speaker 1>point shooting contest. Basically, Oklahoma stayed close. Oklahoma erased what

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<v Speaker 1>a seventeen nineteen point deficit, got it down to one

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<v Speaker 1>in the third quarter, hit some key triples and hit

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<v Speaker 1>twenty free throws out of twenty three attempts. Kentucky fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty. But the Wildcats were fourteen of thirty four

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<v Speaker 1>from the stripe the arc rather and Amore seven of twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>So Oklahoma didn't guard the arc very well and Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>took full advantage. Well, they're still chattering in the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>world about the trade Anthony David to Dallas for Luka

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<v Speaker 1>Doncis and the wild card, and all this is injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>Davis has been hurt a lot. If you follow the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA just passively, you know that Luka Donsich has been hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA. Yes, they do, but Donsich is not

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest defender. Davis is excellent when he's healthy. But

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<v Speaker 1>part of this, too, had to do I was reading

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<v Speaker 1>with Doncid's contract situation coming up, and the mav didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to pay him max money. But you've also got

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that where Mark Cuban is no longer the

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<v Speaker 1>principal owner, he still owns a chunk of the team,

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<v Speaker 1>but from whatever, he's not making all the decisions, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he makes this decision on his own.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously the Lakers had given up on the Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Davis and Lebron situation. They did win a championship in

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<v Speaker 1>the shortened season. So now Davis goes to the Mavericks

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<v Speaker 1>and puts them right back near the top of contenders

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA. But you also got to look at

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<v Speaker 1>the Aaron Fox finally getting out of Sacramento. He did,

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<v Speaker 1>I think everything he could for Sacramento. He goes to

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<v Speaker 1>the Spurs, the Kings get Zach Levine from the Bulls

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<v Speaker 1>in a three way trade, and as I said, Fox

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<v Speaker 1>did his best in Sacramento, played at an all star level.

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<v Speaker 1>So now he teams up with Wimby and Popovich the

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<v Speaker 1>head coach, and maybe this drag san Antonio front center.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Victor Wilman Yama is the future in San

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio and in the NBA. But right now the Spurs

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<v Speaker 1>are twelfth in the Western Conference standings. See if they

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<v Speaker 1>can make a playoff push this year. All right up next,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom leachs the voice of the Cats. A little bit

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<v Speaker 1>Joining us now is the voice of the Wildcasts, mister

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Leech. You hear him each and every day on

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<v Speaker 1>this Ferry radio station, and of course calling the basketball games.

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<v Speaker 1>And you'll hear Tom and Mark Pope on Wednesday, as

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned earlier, because the Wildcats are on their way

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<v Speaker 1>to Oxford. But Tom, let me jump right in following

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday's loss to Arkansas, and I guess we shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>shocked by anything that happens now in the Southeastern Conference,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is I think, given the injuries that Pope

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to win the conference out right, but

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<v Speaker 1>you got to play for postseason seeding. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is a real turning point. This is a crossroads, I

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<v Speaker 1>think for Kentucky basketball, given where the roster is and

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<v Speaker 1>where the schedule is do you see it that way?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? I mean then got a spot here in their

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<v Speaker 5>you don't want to say it's it's soft, but it's

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<v Speaker 5>it's a little lighter. You know, you had Arkansas at home,

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<v Speaker 5>you'll get that one. You got South Carolina at home.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, three of starting with the Arkansas game, three

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<v Speaker 5>of the next four being at home. You feel good

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<v Speaker 5>about that, and one of them is Tennessee. That'll be hard,

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<v Speaker 5>but still it at home. Then you go to Texas

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<v Speaker 5>and you know that it's any of the acts are hard,

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<v Speaker 5>but still it's easier than going to Alabama the next week.

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<v Speaker 5>And then then you got Vandy at home. So that's

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<v Speaker 5>a stretch there where you feel like you've got a

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<v Speaker 5>chance to make a little hay. The problem is that

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<v Speaker 5>Kentucky is now in a situation and that I said

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<v Speaker 5>this after was on my show this morning with John Clay.

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<v Speaker 5>Arkansas lost Boogie Flann, and ironically I think he's better,

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<v Speaker 5>had lost DJ Wagner and kept Boogie Flan. Either way,

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<v Speaker 5>they had two dominant point guards and John L. Davis

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<v Speaker 1>I think number one on the list there is Laman

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<v Speaker 1>Butler's defense because they could not stop Arkansaw obviously enough,

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, second half when Arkansas broke it open. DJ Wagner

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<v Speaker 5>And the thing was Arkansas their office never seemed to

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<v Speaker 5>get disrupted in the second half. They were just kind

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<v Speaker 5>of getting whatever they wanted. And you know, if you

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<v Speaker 5>defended one thing, you know, even the one possession, and

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<v Speaker 5>Kentucky had cut at the sixth and they played really

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<v Speaker 5>good defense for most of the possession, but then they

419
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<v Speaker 5>let him kick it out to Zee on a picking

420
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<v Speaker 5>pop and he hit the three and that was just

421
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<v Speaker 5>a kind of a gut punch kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a shot.

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<v Speaker 5>And uh, that was one of the more difficult possessions

424
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<v Speaker 5>Arkansas had and they still still scored off that one.

425
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<v Speaker 5>So Kentucky didn't have the ability to that day anyway

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<v Speaker 5>to make Arkansas uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>Something that speak, something that, yeah, exactly that Cali Perry said.

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<v Speaker 1>They kind of hung in the air a little bit

429
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<v Speaker 1>for me, but I jotted it down. Mental was he

430
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<v Speaker 1>said that he told Wagner that he wanted Wagner to

431
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<v Speaker 1>run more stuff as the point guard, as opposed to

432
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<v Speaker 1>him running the stuff from the sideline. You remember how

433
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<v Speaker 1>you know, the young guys would always looked to Caliperry.

434
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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like it's very much like, and we've

435
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<v Speaker 1>talked about this before, what the Wildcats do where Pope,

436
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<v Speaker 1>you know, just lets them work things out on their

437
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<v Speaker 1>own because they're veterans, especially when when Butter is playing,

438
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<v Speaker 1>and you didn't have that luxury, and it was a

439
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<v Speaker 1>luxury when they were at Kentucky because they were all

440
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<v Speaker 1>so green. But Saturday night, Wagner ran the stuff. He

441
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<v Speaker 1>thought they should have been running, which oftentimes meant either

442
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<v Speaker 1>him or Thiero getting to the rim. And I thought

443
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<v Speaker 1>that was a huge difference. Did you see it that way?

444
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? And you know, a dude figured to be a

445
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<v Speaker 5>difficult matchup for Kentucky coming in. They didn't really have

446
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<v Speaker 5>a good match for his skill set. Uh. And then

447
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<v Speaker 5>uh Wagner, you know, without having Butler. I mean, Robinson

448
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<v Speaker 5>is a solid defender, but he's not Butler in the

449
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<v Speaker 5>Butler's four K and so Wagner and it got what

450
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<v Speaker 5>he wanted, and that led to Zero getting what he

451
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<v Speaker 5>wanted and Kentucky. I mean, those two guys pretty much

452
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<v Speaker 5>did most of the damage. He had a couple of threes,

453
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<v Speaker 5>but you know those two guys. You know, it's a

454
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<v Speaker 5>little like you know that Auburn game in nineteen and

455
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<v Speaker 5>the Elite eight where those two guards just kind of

456
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<v Speaker 5>took over the games, or even further back Arizona in

457
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:42.720
<v Speaker 5>the ninety seven title game with uh Simon and Bibbie.

458
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:46.839
<v Speaker 5>It's like those two guys. Now, Uh, Zero's not technically

459
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:48.880
<v Speaker 5>a guard, but really it's just kind of a wing.

460
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<v Speaker 5>But you know, DJ Wagner running the show and then

461
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<v Speaker 5>Zero and they just you know, attacked over and over again,

462
00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:59.400
<v Speaker 5>and a dude got what twelve free throw attempts and

463
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<v Speaker 5>that's kind of bean who he is this season. But

464
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<v Speaker 5>Uh Kentucky and that's where you know, I know Mark

465
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<v Speaker 5>Uh was second guesting himself after the game. I suspect

466
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<v Speaker 5>that they run into that situation again. He might try

467
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<v Speaker 5>to do sometimes just change for the sake of change,

468
00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:19.359
<v Speaker 5>even if it's not your best pitch. Uh. They needed

469
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<v Speaker 5>to do something to, you know, disrupt Arkansas. The analogy

470
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<v Speaker 5>ale was used as if you're shooting free throws with

471
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<v Speaker 5>a buddy and you know, you know, best out of ten,

472
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:32.359
<v Speaker 5>and if he makes seven in a row when you

473
00:28:32.359 --> 00:28:34.640
<v Speaker 5>throw it back to him for the eighth shot, you're

474
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<v Speaker 5>not going to throw it right back to them, Maybe

475
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:39.200
<v Speaker 5>said his seat. Maybe he has to. You're gonna have

476
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<v Speaker 5>to move and get out of his you know where

477
00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:43.440
<v Speaker 5>his feet are, and get out of his comfort spot

478
00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:45.079
<v Speaker 5>if he's going to keep eating you.

479
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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly right. And anybody who's done that, has played

480
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<v Speaker 1>either a horse or a free throw shooting contest. Yes,

481
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<v Speaker 1>has done just that. As we talk with Tom Leach's

482
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<v Speaker 1>the voice of the Wildcats. He'll be behind the Mica

483
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<v Speaker 1>alongside Jack Gibbons when the Wildcats take on All Miss

484
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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow night. Getting back to our original point, as you mentioned,

485
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<v Speaker 1>the schedule in air quotes manageable over the next couple

486
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<v Speaker 1>of weeks, but Nola mont Butler, and as we said,

487
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<v Speaker 1>Mark Pope juggling that roster. And he mentioned this this

488
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<v Speaker 1>word to you in the postgame, and he mentioned it

489
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<v Speaker 1>a little bit to the media before he talked to you,

490
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<v Speaker 1>guys who are stretching their roles, which I thought was

491
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<v Speaker 1>a really interesting way to put that. In other words,

492
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<v Speaker 1>guys who might be a two now are playing some one,

493
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<v Speaker 1>and guys who might be a four to hour plan

494
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<v Speaker 1>some three, and vice versa. I've not heard it put

495
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:41.559
<v Speaker 1>that way, Tom, but that's pretty accurate, isn't it. And

496
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<v Speaker 1>it's quite a.

497
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<v Speaker 5>Challenge it is for Robinson in particular, Yes, And I

498
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<v Speaker 5>heard a couple of his comments after the game, and

499
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:54.440
<v Speaker 5>he just you know, he's he's doing his best to

500
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:57.880
<v Speaker 5>be a good leader and to try to take on

501
00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:01.519
<v Speaker 5>this new challenge. But it's seems clearly, even for what

502
00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:03.839
<v Speaker 5>he says, that it's not his favorite thing to be doing.

503
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<v Speaker 5>And Pope told the story about him last year. B

504
00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:08.559
<v Speaker 5>yu how much he hated playing the point. But he's

505
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:10.960
<v Speaker 5>doing it, and I mean he's he scored well, and

506
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:14.960
<v Speaker 5>but you know, I think he's you know, I wonder

507
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<v Speaker 5>if he's not a little easier to to limit his

508
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<v Speaker 5>shots offensively, if he's you know, being the primary ball

509
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:25.359
<v Speaker 5>handler as opposed to try to you know, make cuts

510
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:29.200
<v Speaker 5>and things. And maybe that's part of it. But you

511
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<v Speaker 5>know that's so they're they're just again that kind of

512
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<v Speaker 5>go back to right now, there's struggling to find a

513
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<v Speaker 5>way to make the pieces fit together better. And I'm

514
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<v Speaker 5>not they'll they'll, you know, they'll come up with some

515
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<v Speaker 5>kind of plan, but you know, it had worked well

516
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<v Speaker 5>obviously at Tennessee, so there wasn't any reason to do

517
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:50.279
<v Speaker 5>anything drastically different. But maybe he'll do some different things

518
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:53.480
<v Speaker 5>now because obviously everybody's going to look at what Arkansas

519
00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:55.799
<v Speaker 5>did and try to, you know, approach it the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Leech's the voice of the Cash. We'll talk more

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<v Speaker 1>with Tom on the other side of the break here

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<v Speaker 1>six thirty WLAP Welcome back. We're talking to the voice

523
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<v Speaker 1>of the Wow Cats, Tom Leach. He will call the

524
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<v Speaker 1>action as the Cats take on Ole Miss tomorrow. Night

525
00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:14.720
<v Speaker 1>down in Oxford. And when you talk about the SEC,

526
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.799
<v Speaker 1>the strength, the depth, you don't look at the Kentucky's

527
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<v Speaker 1>and the Auburns tom you know, you look at the

528
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<v Speaker 1>teams like Old Miss that are, with all due respect,

529
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<v Speaker 1>kind of off and on have nots. I don't want

530
00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:31.799
<v Speaker 1>to say perennial, but this is one dangerous team. Played

531
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<v Speaker 1>Auburn tough and is capable of beating anybody. And that's

532
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>just life in the league, now, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, here's they're a good example of what this

534
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:46.200
<v Speaker 5>SEC is. They went into Tuscaloosa and beat Alabama and

535
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:49.880
<v Speaker 5>then have lost three or four since then. Yeah and

536
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<v Speaker 5>uh yeah, I watched the game set they just get

537
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.640
<v Speaker 5>a little bit like Kentucky and Arkansas. They couldn't get

538
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:02.720
<v Speaker 5>Auburn stopped. Yeah enough, second half they kept hanging around

539
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:05.599
<v Speaker 5>and they would get it to Ford and Arkansas score

540
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:08.359
<v Speaker 5>and push it back out I think, or auburt would

541
00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:10.000
<v Speaker 5>score and push it back out of I think Alburn

542
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:14.000
<v Speaker 5>eventually won by about ten. You know, and they had

543
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:17.200
<v Speaker 5>some issues with the brooms. So maybe you know, Williams,

544
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:20.279
<v Speaker 5>who's playing really well, can continue the success that he

545
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:22.920
<v Speaker 5>had Saturday. But you know, they got really good guards.

546
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:24.759
<v Speaker 5>They forced a lot of turnovers, and turnovers have been

547
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:27.720
<v Speaker 5>an issue of late for Kentucky. They've had I think

548
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:31.440
<v Speaker 5>it's like the last three games forty four turnovers and

549
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:34.279
<v Speaker 5>thirty three assists. And you know that's not who they

550
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:36.559
<v Speaker 5>who they are, so they should do who they want

551
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:39.319
<v Speaker 5>to be. They want that number to be a lot

552
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:42.240
<v Speaker 5>more heavily in favor of the assist column. So they've

553
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:45.039
<v Speaker 5>got to find a way to get that trending back

554
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:48.039
<v Speaker 5>in the right direction. And but this is a team

555
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:51.920
<v Speaker 5>that you know feeds off turning you over and scoring

556
00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:55.039
<v Speaker 5>that way, and that certainly was a big factor for

557
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:59.799
<v Speaker 5>Arkansas to score off Kentucky. They had fourteen points off turnovers.

558
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:02.599
<v Speaker 5>It wasn't like it was, you know, twenty five points, right,

559
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:07.559
<v Speaker 5>but it got them, you know, out in transition. And

560
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:11.200
<v Speaker 5>you know, Kentucky's third in the country in offensive efficiency.

561
00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:13.039
<v Speaker 5>Every time you turn it over is the one time

562
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:16.160
<v Speaker 5>you don't get to shoot, and they're really good typically

563
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:17.160
<v Speaker 5>at shooting and scoring.

564
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<v Speaker 1>What do you make of that tom that's been I

565
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>don't want to call it a phenomenon, but a problem

566
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:25.279
<v Speaker 1>that's popped up really toward the second half of the

567
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>schedule this year.

568
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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think you look at Butler, I mean, he

569
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:34.400
<v Speaker 5>got hurt in that Texas A and M game multiple ways,

570
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<v Speaker 5>and so maybe he, you know, was you know, playing

571
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:41.880
<v Speaker 5>a lot less than one hundred percent. Then we realized yeah,

572
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<v Speaker 5>and then you know, you look at the Vandy game.

573
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<v Speaker 5>He was you know, that's the last time we played,

574
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:51.119
<v Speaker 5>and he had a usually high number of turnovers. And

575
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<v Speaker 5>then now they're playing with a guy who's not a

576
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<v Speaker 5>not normally used to playing point guard. And so that

577
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<v Speaker 5>would figure, at least in the short term, to affect

578
00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:06.559
<v Speaker 5>you over time. You know, you kind of if you're

579
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:09.159
<v Speaker 5>Jackson Robinson, you get learn to get more comfortable with it,

580
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:11.199
<v Speaker 5>and if you're Mark Pope and his staff, you learn

581
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:14.559
<v Speaker 5>ways to you know, help out your team to do

582
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:18.000
<v Speaker 5>things maybe a little differently because of how it's composed

583
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<v Speaker 5>at the moment. And but all of that takes a

584
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:23.360
<v Speaker 5>little time, and you know this, this is a very

585
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:25.119
<v Speaker 5>unforgiving league obviously. This year.

586
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<v Speaker 1>You know, we talked about some of the individual players

587
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:31.079
<v Speaker 1>and the point guards and things like that, but I

588
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:34.400
<v Speaker 1>tell you one thing that surprised me and and he

589
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>touched on it with you a little bit. Mark Pope

590
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:40.800
<v Speaker 1>did not a whole lot from Otega Olway, and I

591
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<v Speaker 1>really thought Saturday's game kind of set up for him

592
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<v Speaker 1>to have, you know, a good evening, but he was

593
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<v Speaker 1>just kind of quiet, wasn't he.

594
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I mean he got to double figures barely at

595
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:54.599
<v Speaker 5>the end. But yeah, he's been a guy that has

596
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:58.000
<v Speaker 5>been a real second half force for them. He's and

597
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:01.119
<v Speaker 5>he and Kentucky you know, has been a very good

598
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:05.280
<v Speaker 5>second half team, and both were not the case on Saturday.

599
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<v Speaker 5>Hopefully getting car back helps a little bit just with

600
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:14.360
<v Speaker 5>the overall flow of things, because Aldanor has has played

601
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:17.039
<v Speaker 5>really well, but he's kind of one of those guys

602
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:20.320
<v Speaker 5>stretching his role. His role was to be, you know,

603
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:23.320
<v Speaker 5>off the bench, instant offense, you know, three point shooter,

604
00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:27.559
<v Speaker 5>and and so he's a guy that had I think

605
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:29.239
<v Speaker 5>going into the Arkansas game, I want to say, he

606
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:32.039
<v Speaker 5>had four assists and five turnovers for the year, so

607
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:36.480
<v Speaker 5>basically he's just you know, catching and shooting, whereas Andrew

608
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:40.639
<v Speaker 5>Carr had forty two assists and fourteen turnovers. So that's

609
00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:43.559
<v Speaker 5>you know, a you get that's maybe where you get

610
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:46.199
<v Speaker 5>your assists boosted back up. As he starts to work

611
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:50.239
<v Speaker 5>back into the mixed more. They really could use something,

612
00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:55.639
<v Speaker 5>you know, a growing contribution from one or two or

613
00:35:55.800 --> 00:36:00.039
<v Speaker 5>all three freshmen. Noah didn't play the other day, And

614
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:02.079
<v Speaker 5>hope they can find a way to work him in

615
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:04.559
<v Speaker 5>because I think he kind of just kind of seemed

616
00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:07.599
<v Speaker 5>like a guy that gives them some intangibles. But I

617
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:09.719
<v Speaker 5>understand the other day he was he'd been playing the

618
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:12.920
<v Speaker 5>four and so co with car back. You know, those

619
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:16.480
<v Speaker 5>the most minutes are taken up there. Chandler I thought

620
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:18.880
<v Speaker 5>was really good defensively, and for a team that is

621
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:23.000
<v Speaker 5>struggling defensively, he could help them. But he's got to

622
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<v Speaker 5>be able to give him something on the offensive end,

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<v Speaker 5>and they've got to you know, that's something you just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of work with a young player and at some

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<v Speaker 5>point it clicks to get him his his confidence on

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<v Speaker 5>the offensive end. And you know, he's you know, but

627
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<v Speaker 5>I was really impressed with his defense and he's physical,

628
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<v Speaker 5>and so you know he then that's something obviously they're missing.

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<v Speaker 5>So he could help them if but you know, you

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<v Speaker 5>a thought seventeen minutes you know, the other night, probably

631
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<v Speaker 5>a little more than you would want to play him

632
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<v Speaker 5>if because he's not giving you anything offensively. He can.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, he's a good shooter. But one of the

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<v Speaker 5>best illustrations of it was late in the game he

635
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:06.280
<v Speaker 5>made a nice move to penetrate into the lane down

636
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<v Speaker 5>to the right block. Just go up and shoot a

637
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:11.760
<v Speaker 5>six footer. Yeah, but he tries to throw it around

638
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:14.440
<v Speaker 5>to Arkansas players to make a wrap around pass to

639
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:17.440
<v Speaker 5>almonor right, and it's like, you know, if you want

640
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:19.719
<v Speaker 5>to make that pass, be a love but number but

641
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<v Speaker 5>number one, don't make the pass. Just shoot the ball.

642
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:24.920
<v Speaker 5>You're six people from the basket. But he didn't have

643
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:28.199
<v Speaker 5>the confidence to do that, and so that's where he's

644
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<v Speaker 5>got to find a way to get that. You know,

645
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:32.400
<v Speaker 5>they're gonta give him a little bit of that Trent

646
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:34.760
<v Speaker 5>Noah confidence. He seems to play loose and free.

647
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. But there was one play in particular as

648
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<v Speaker 1>well with with him where he he took a fifty

649
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:44.719
<v Speaker 1>to fifty ball away from Arkansas and I thought, all right,

650
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:47.639
<v Speaker 1>that's yeah, that's gonna keep him in a game, and

651
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:49.320
<v Speaker 1>it will it will fit him well.

652
00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:50.480
<v Speaker 5>So you're a charge.

653
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, he's a He's a really good athlete, there's

654
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:56.280
<v Speaker 1>no question. And I know people are upset they didn't

655
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:59.320
<v Speaker 1>see Trent. But you know, things Trent gave them in Knoxville,

656
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:02.119
<v Speaker 1>they didn't need so much as what they gave Chandler

657
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:05.360
<v Speaker 1>with Chandler. But again Pope's second guess himself about that.

658
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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see if changes happened tomorrow night in Oxford.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever happens, Tom Leach will call the action alongside your

660
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.760
<v Speaker 1>man Jack Gibbons, and we will be tuning in Thomas.

661
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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, and safe travels sounds good, Thank you,

662
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:23.079
<v Speaker 1>And of course you can follow Tom on Twitter at

663
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<v Speaker 1>Tom Leach Ky. Listen to him each and every morning

664
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<v Speaker 1>on this very radio station. It's the Leech Report at

665
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<v Speaker 1>eight am. I will actually be sitting in for Tom

666
00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:34.840
<v Speaker 1>on the Lee's Report on Wednesday morning, as he will

667
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:38.239
<v Speaker 1>get back late or early, depending on how you look

668
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<v Speaker 1>at it, coming back from Oxford. Not a tough trip,

669
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:44.239
<v Speaker 1>but a man needs his rest. Coming up an hour

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<v Speaker 1>number two Mike de Corsi of the Sporting News and

671
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<v Speaker 1>a little bit later on Christy Thomas of the SEC Network,

672
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:53.760
<v Speaker 1>and we will talk with Christy about a great name

673
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:57.079
<v Speaker 1>at Georgia Amore and the UK women. That's all ahead

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<v Speaker 1>here on a big bullom.

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<v Speaker 2>Side of six thirty Wlaper.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Big Blue. Insider joining us now

677
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<v Speaker 1>is one of my favorite guests because to me, he

678
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:52.840
<v Speaker 1>is the pre eminent college basketball writer. Terrific writer period,

679
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:55.880
<v Speaker 1>but especially college basketball. That is Mike de Corsi of

680
00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:58.440
<v Speaker 1>the Sporting News. How's your season going, young man?

681
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:00.960
<v Speaker 5>Oh, so far, so good.

682
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:04.199
<v Speaker 6>I haven't here's the key. I haven't gotten any wrong

683
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:06.880
<v Speaker 6>on my bracket yet. Only I do two brackets a week,

684
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:09.880
<v Speaker 6>and they're always perfect. No one can ever say otherwise.

685
00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Excellent. Mike not only works for the Sporting News, but

686
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:17.360
<v Speaker 1>for the Big Ten Network as a studio analyst, does

687
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:21.679
<v Speaker 1>insa brackets for Fox Sports, also covers the NFL and soccer,

688
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:23.639
<v Speaker 1>and if you follow him on Twitter, which you should

689
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:26.320
<v Speaker 1>at TSN, Mike, you see all of this. But let

690
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:29.320
<v Speaker 1>me get your response. Your reaction as a guy who

691
00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:34.280
<v Speaker 1>covers the sports nationwide to the Caliperry back to Kentucky's

692
00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:38.679
<v Speaker 1>story before and after, because there was so much of

693
00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:40.599
<v Speaker 1>the walk up to it and then he pulls off

694
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:42.360
<v Speaker 1>the upset. What was your reaction?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I will have to say that I was amazed.

696
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:50.880
<v Speaker 6>I did not anticipate them being able to Arkansas, being

697
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:54.320
<v Speaker 6>able to come inter rupt and do that, and I

698
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:58.599
<v Speaker 6>thought there was some really good analysis after the after

699
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:04.280
<v Speaker 6>the game that for everybody involved on the Kentucky side,

700
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:08.480
<v Speaker 6>it was just another home game against the ninth place,

701
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:11.119
<v Speaker 6>tenth place, fifteenth place team in the league, whatever it is.

702
00:42:11.199 --> 00:42:14.159
<v Speaker 6>I mean, they're way down there, right and it and

703
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:17.400
<v Speaker 6>you're coming off a great win against Tennessee on the road.

704
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:21.199
<v Speaker 6>And and maybe it was an advantage to Arkansas that

705
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:24.360
<v Speaker 6>that that so many of the players on that squad

706
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:27.559
<v Speaker 6>had that little extra juice to put to come and

707
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:32.480
<v Speaker 6>play there. And I and and and understandably with with

708
00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:36.280
<v Speaker 6>John and everything, I mean Big Zy and and especially

709
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:40.079
<v Speaker 6>Yadu and H and DJ, those guys all lived through

710
00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:41.079
<v Speaker 6>last year.

711
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:42.360
<v Speaker 7>And know how it went.

712
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.880
<v Speaker 6>And and I'm sure that they probably had a little

713
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:51.239
<v Speaker 6>bit of extra juice because it was until the final game.

714
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:53.480
<v Speaker 6>It was a fine season. It wasn't a great season,

715
00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:54.960
<v Speaker 6>but it was a fine season. I don't think it

716
00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:58.239
<v Speaker 6>was ever treated that way. And then of course it

717
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:03.280
<v Speaker 6>turned into a major disappointment with the game up in

718
00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:06.039
<v Speaker 6>Pittsburgh against Oakland, and.

719
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:10.079
<v Speaker 1>They got whatever juice they had. Probably the exclamation point

720
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:13.000
<v Speaker 1>game came the moment they walked out for shoot around

721
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:16.679
<v Speaker 1>and then the booze cascaded, then they came out again

722
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:20.719
<v Speaker 1>for the game and more booing. So that's got to

723
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:22.039
<v Speaker 1>drive a kid, wouldn't you may.

724
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:26.119
<v Speaker 6>Oh I think it would. Yeah, absolutely, a competitive young

725
00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:30.119
<v Speaker 6>man is going to respond to that. You see those

726
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:35.559
<v Speaker 6>things all over in sports. You saw Iowa yesterday, Iowa

727
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:39.880
<v Speaker 6>women's team, how they jumped on USC, which I mean,

728
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:42.320
<v Speaker 6>I don't think it's breaking any hearts to say that

729
00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:45.760
<v Speaker 6>USC is a better basketball team on the women's side

730
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:46.519
<v Speaker 6>this year.

731
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:47.880
<v Speaker 5>Than Iowa is.

732
00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:52.199
<v Speaker 6>But they were not going to let that occasion go

733
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:54.480
<v Speaker 6>without their best effort. Now, whether it's be enough or not,

734
00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:57.440
<v Speaker 6>they were going to put it out there and they did,

735
00:43:57.480 --> 00:43:59.440
<v Speaker 6>and they jumped up twenty to four and ended up

736
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:03.159
<v Speaker 6>winning the game. And that's really what you see, and

737
00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:06.119
<v Speaker 6>that's one of the things that makes college sports wonderful.

738
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:08.800
<v Speaker 6>You don't see that as much in pro sports. It's

739
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:13.679
<v Speaker 6>pretty rare, true, and college sports it's it's not it's

740
00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:17.000
<v Speaker 6>not uncommon. Let's say, it's not something you see every week,

741
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:20.039
<v Speaker 6>or it wouldn't be special. But when it does, it

742
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:20.920
<v Speaker 6>makes an impact.

743
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Is it because do you think, Mike, there's more emotion involved?

744
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:26.000
<v Speaker 8>Oh?

745
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:28.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think so. I mean I think that also.

746
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:31.960
<v Speaker 6>I think it helps to be if you're looking for

747
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:35.320
<v Speaker 6>emotion when the game schedule is as compact as it is.

748
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:38.559
<v Speaker 6>When you're playing eighty two NBA games or eighty two

749
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:41.679
<v Speaker 6>hockey games or one hundred and sixty two baseball game,

750
00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:44.400
<v Speaker 6>it's hard to be emotional about just about any of them. Yeah,

751
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:47.280
<v Speaker 6>but when you've got thirty some college basketball games and

752
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:51.400
<v Speaker 6>about sixteen or seventeen of them at home, and maybe

753
00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:55.440
<v Speaker 6>one of them is an unusual occasion like this one

754
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:58.760
<v Speaker 6>for the Arkansas players, then you're going to You're going

755
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:02.599
<v Speaker 6>to get that extra fire. And I kind of thought,

756
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:06.000
<v Speaker 6>I wrote about this going into the Duke's came against

757
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:08.719
<v Speaker 6>North Carolina, and I had seen North Carolina on Tuesday

758
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:11.880
<v Speaker 6>at TIT and they were not very good, and I thought, Okay,

759
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:14.639
<v Speaker 6>like this is your last, this is your last shot,

760
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:17.679
<v Speaker 6>go out against Duke and at least put some fire

761
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:20.400
<v Speaker 6>on the court. And they didn't, And so that sort

762
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:25.760
<v Speaker 6>of tells you where it's going. But Arkansas, they said, no,

763
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:28.599
<v Speaker 6>we're going to give what we have. And it was

764
00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:31.239
<v Speaker 6>on this night enough and I'm not sure, honestly, Dick

765
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:35.119
<v Speaker 6>enough as being made of the absences for Kentucky and

766
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:40.400
<v Speaker 6>it's Lamont. Butler made my All America second team at

767
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:44.920
<v Speaker 6>mid season and practically hasn't played since. And it was

768
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:48.400
<v Speaker 6>it was amazing what Mark was able to do by

769
00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:51.599
<v Speaker 6>putting Williams at the point, so to speak, and playing

770
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:53.840
<v Speaker 6>out of that. But it was only going to be

771
00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:57.719
<v Speaker 6>as effective as it was one time. Now it could

772
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:00.239
<v Speaker 6>still be effective, but the level of effect and this

773
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:02.679
<v Speaker 6>was going to diminish because it wasn't a surprise anymore.

774
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:03.199
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

775
00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:07.280
<v Speaker 6>Arkansas had time to prepare for that, and so they

776
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.760
<v Speaker 6>were able to do some effective things to mitigate it.

777
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:15.639
<v Speaker 6>And when Kentucky gets Lamont back, and the sooner the

778
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:19.000
<v Speaker 6>better because the terrific young man. I wrote about him

779
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:21.239
<v Speaker 6>at the two thousand and three Final four, really enjoyed

780
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:24.079
<v Speaker 6>him and would love to see him back out there

781
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:26.719
<v Speaker 6>healthy so that the Wildcats can take their best shot.

782
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:30.159
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're talking to Mike de Corsi of the

783
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Sporting News, and you follow Kentucky as much as any

784
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:38.280
<v Speaker 1>of the national writers, as we call you, and I

785
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:42.039
<v Speaker 1>keep reminding myself that big New Nation. For the most

786
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:46.760
<v Speaker 1>part this year, expectations were fairly modest back in April

787
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:50.360
<v Speaker 1>when they first hired Mark Pope, and you know, if

788
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:52.000
<v Speaker 1>we can just finish in the top half of the

789
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:53.559
<v Speaker 1>SEC and maybe win a game or two in the

790
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:56.599
<v Speaker 1>ANNG tournament. But you know how Kentucky fans are, Mike,

791
00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:00.119
<v Speaker 1>especially as the wins pile up, so did the expectation.

792
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:04.159
<v Speaker 1>But if I had told the BBN okay mid season,

793
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:07.519
<v Speaker 1>your All American point guard is going to be out

794
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:10.400
<v Speaker 1>indefinitely and Andrew Carr is going to be playing on

795
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:13.719
<v Speaker 1>one leg, how do you feel now? But right, that's

796
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:15.840
<v Speaker 1>all part of it, isn't it.

797
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:19.440
<v Speaker 6>It is It's how the season goes sometimes. And honestly,

798
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:23.920
<v Speaker 6>last year John had terrible injury luck. The Wildcats were

799
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:28.360
<v Speaker 6>constantly getting guys hurt, and although that probably wasn't an

800
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:32.960
<v Speaker 6>excuse for them losing to Oakland, it was a part

801
00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:35.320
<v Speaker 6>of the reason why they wound up in the Oakland games.

802
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:38.159
<v Speaker 6>It may not have been they might have been a

803
00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:40.159
<v Speaker 6>one or two if they had been healthy all the

804
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:44.440
<v Speaker 6>way through, but they certainly should have done a better

805
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:48.800
<v Speaker 6>defensive job on Jack Golkie. It took much too long

806
00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:51.119
<v Speaker 6>for them to adjust to what they were doing. And

807
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:56.760
<v Speaker 6>I think in the end, you have to be aware

808
00:47:56.840 --> 00:47:58.960
<v Speaker 6>of everything going on with your season, and what you

809
00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:02.119
<v Speaker 6>have to hope is that whatever issues you have along

810
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:04.880
<v Speaker 6>the way, that they get resolved in time for the

811
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:07.760
<v Speaker 6>biggest games, which will be played in March, in the

812
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:11.440
<v Speaker 6>SEC tournament and in the NCAA Tournament. You have to

813
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:15.599
<v Speaker 6>hope that's all behind you. And I don't know the

814
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:19.440
<v Speaker 6>answer to that. I suspected it's pretty pretty obvious that

815
00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:23.760
<v Speaker 6>Andrew should be back soon at one hundred percent. And

816
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:27.000
<v Speaker 6>then I know Mark was talking about Lamont and wasn't

817
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:32.119
<v Speaker 6>giving any specific so that's not the best news.

818
00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:34.119
<v Speaker 5>But you know, the.

819
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<v Speaker 6>Problem is that you already lost an excellent backup point

820
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:41.800
<v Speaker 6>guard in kerk Creasa, and now you're down a second.

821
00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:44.679
<v Speaker 6>I mean, imagine having two players at the most important

822
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:47.000
<v Speaker 6>positions that are both capable of playing at a high

823
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:50.639
<v Speaker 6>level and then being stuck in the start of February

824
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:51.519
<v Speaker 6>with none of them.

825
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:55.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, when we talk about football teams and what

826
00:48:55.599 --> 00:49:00.400
<v Speaker 1>they might accomplish, it's always smart throwing the caveat if

827
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<v Speaker 1>they stay healthy. You never think about that with basketball.

828
00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:06.760
<v Speaker 1>But that's there's there's less depth on a basketball team

829
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:07.920
<v Speaker 1>than a football team.

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00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:13.079
<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, that's one hundred percent true. And again, especially when

831
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<v Speaker 6>I mean imagine that, like I said that that all

832
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<v Speaker 6>the injuries happen for the most part, at the same position,

833
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:21.559
<v Speaker 6>and the most important position on the floor, the one

834
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:25.360
<v Speaker 6>that differentiates the teams that go a distance to the

835
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:28.360
<v Speaker 6>teams that don't. If you don't have that guy, it's

836
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:31.559
<v Speaker 6>really hard. And that's why, like I said, the Tuesday

837
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:38.119
<v Speaker 6>game against against Tennessee was remarkable, but it wasn't going

838
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:41.159
<v Speaker 6>to be something that was going to always be.

839
00:49:41.320 --> 00:49:43.280
<v Speaker 7>As effective as it was against ut.

840
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:46.320
<v Speaker 6>And they don't take those wins away. I mean, you

841
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:48.840
<v Speaker 6>got it and it's in your bank, and it looks

842
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:52.679
<v Speaker 6>looks just clamorous on the resume, but you have to

843
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:56.840
<v Speaker 6>try to find a way now to fight on without

844
00:49:57.400 --> 00:50:01.159
<v Speaker 6>without your most important player, and and I think you're

845
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:04.960
<v Speaker 6>best player because he's on a team that is really

846
00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:07.599
<v Speaker 6>effective on offense, I mean as good as anybody at

847
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:11.679
<v Speaker 6>their best they are, but on defense it's it's still

848
00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:15.280
<v Speaker 6>a struggle. And Lamont gave them a fighting chance in

849
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:18.599
<v Speaker 6>every game because he could foul up the ball, yep,

850
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:21.199
<v Speaker 6>make it, you know, protect the ball from going where

851
00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:24.599
<v Speaker 6>it wanted to go. Because he could deny penetration. He's

852
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:27.960
<v Speaker 6>an excellent at that, and that's why. That's the biggest

853
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:31.360
<v Speaker 6>reason why in twenty twenty three, San Diego State was

854
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:34.400
<v Speaker 6>able to make it all the way to the championship game.

855
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:40.480
<v Speaker 6>And I think that if he's healthy, Kentucky has significant possibilities.

856
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:44.599
<v Speaker 1>SARCH, We're talking with Mike de Corsi of the Sporting

857
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:46.840
<v Speaker 1>News and the Big ten Network. More to com here

858
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:49.639
<v Speaker 1>on the Big boone Sider six thirty WLAP. We're talking

859
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:52.679
<v Speaker 1>to Michael de Corsi. He writes the college hoops column

860
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:57.039
<v Speaker 1>for the Sporting News, Big ten Network, studio analyst in

861
00:50:57.199 --> 00:51:00.960
<v Speaker 1>say bracketologist for Fox Sports, covers the ENF and soccer.

862
00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:05.039
<v Speaker 1>And let me shift you over real quickly to the NFL.

863
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:07.840
<v Speaker 1>First of all, who do you like in the Super Bowl?

864
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:12.599
<v Speaker 1>And secondly, I love it. I've complimented you before about

865
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:16.199
<v Speaker 1>your common sense and enough of that in the media

866
00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:20.719
<v Speaker 1>and on social media. But I am not a Steelers fan.

867
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I am a shareholder of the Green Bay Packers. But

868
00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:27.280
<v Speaker 1>I admire the Steelers. I admire their head coach. But

869
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.320
<v Speaker 1>isn't that just a product of where we are really

870
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:31.079
<v Speaker 1>in sports period?

871
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Mike?

872
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:33.719
<v Speaker 1>That what have you done for me lately? And there

873
00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:36.000
<v Speaker 1>are people who want to see him gone. It's amazing

874
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:36.239
<v Speaker 1>to me.

875
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:39.599
<v Speaker 6>You know, I was thinking about this this morning, and

876
00:51:39.639 --> 00:51:43.199
<v Speaker 6>I can take it back to college basketball. Cincinnati lost

877
00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:46.760
<v Speaker 6>another game in the Big twelve over the weekend. I

878
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:50.800
<v Speaker 6>think they're two and something, and it reminded me that

879
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:55.480
<v Speaker 6>in twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, Mick Crolan had

880
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:57.599
<v Speaker 6>gotten to the point in his career where he had

881
00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:01.199
<v Speaker 6>made I think at that point, nine consecutive NCAA tournaments

882
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:04.239
<v Speaker 6>and at that point, and he goes Bill self, Mark

883
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:07.760
<v Speaker 6>Few and Tom Izzo that had matched that. That's how

884
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:09.960
<v Speaker 6>rare what they were doing at Cincinnati was.

885
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:10.239
<v Speaker 5>Now.

886
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:12.880
<v Speaker 6>They had not advanced to the sweet sixteen at that

887
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:16.000
<v Speaker 6>point in seven years, I believe, and they had lost

888
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:19.480
<v Speaker 6>in twenty eighteen, they'd blown a twenty one point lead

889
00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:23.199
<v Speaker 6>in the final dozen minutes or so and missed as

890
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:27.079
<v Speaker 6>a number two seeds. And so Mick was looking at it,

891
00:52:27.159 --> 00:52:30.719
<v Speaker 6>and he'd been approached by different people, and he said, Okay,

892
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:31.960
<v Speaker 6>I want to be in Cincinnati.

893
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:34.840
<v Speaker 7>I'm a Cincinnati guy. I grew up here, born here, and.

894
00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:36.559
<v Speaker 6>Only at time I was ever gone was when I

895
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:41.280
<v Speaker 6>coached at Louisville Murray. And then he comes, so he

896
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:43.960
<v Speaker 6>goes to the administration or's agent or whatever, and says,

897
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:45.920
<v Speaker 6>here's what I want. I don't need a big race,

898
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:47.880
<v Speaker 6>but I want ten years. If I'm going to stay here,

899
00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:49.440
<v Speaker 6>if I'm going to turn down big money from all these

900
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:53.119
<v Speaker 6>other things, I want security. I want to know that

901
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:57.119
<v Speaker 6>I'm going to be here. And the school, the AD

902
00:52:57.239 --> 00:53:00.159
<v Speaker 6>at the time, said no, here's what we'll do. We'll

903
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:03.000
<v Speaker 6>give you four years. And now all the incentives that

904
00:53:03.039 --> 00:53:05.639
<v Speaker 6>you get from making the NCAA tournament are now.

905
00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:06.800
<v Speaker 7>If you make the sweet sixteen.

906
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:07.400
<v Speaker 5>Wow.

907
00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:09.639
<v Speaker 6>So I was basically telling them it was a pay cut,

908
00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:12.400
<v Speaker 6>the way I described it in my article was a

909
00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:17.360
<v Speaker 6>functional pay cut, and and and so he's declined that.

910
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:20.079
<v Speaker 6>And the next thing you know, you see Ali knocks

911
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:22.719
<v Speaker 6>on the door and now he's you know, he's living

912
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:25.599
<v Speaker 6>in SoCal and he's been to the final four in

913
00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:28.920
<v Speaker 6>a couple of sweet sixteens, and Cincinnati has not.

914
00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:31.159
<v Speaker 7>They have not been back to the tournament.

915
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:35.960
<v Speaker 6>Since That's that's what happens when you think really good

916
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:40.840
<v Speaker 6>is not good enough. I just I believe in success,

917
00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:43.360
<v Speaker 6>and I can and I and there are coaches out

918
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:46.280
<v Speaker 6>there who warrant firing. And it's really easy to tell

919
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:48.800
<v Speaker 6>who they are, they're the ones that lose more games

920
00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:51.519
<v Speaker 6>than they win. I mean, it's really that simple.

921
00:53:51.880 --> 00:53:54.360
<v Speaker 1>There you go in that common sense again, Mike, come.

922
00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:59.719
<v Speaker 6>On, they're not hard to find, uh. And So that's

923
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:02.880
<v Speaker 6>the way I feel about Tomlin that if you change

924
00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:07.000
<v Speaker 6>from him, you're going away from something that has been

925
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:10.159
<v Speaker 6>successful now for eighteen years and the most difficult, most

926
00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:14.039
<v Speaker 6>balanced league in all of sports. Yeah, he's never had

927
00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:17.679
<v Speaker 6>a losing season, and people mock that now, but it's

928
00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:21.599
<v Speaker 6>just it's an amazing I mean, it's an amazing record

929
00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:24.400
<v Speaker 6>to have. Chuck Ole couldn't do that. Bill Kward couldn't

930
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:28.679
<v Speaker 6>do that, Vince Lombardi didn't do that. No matter who

931
00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:31.000
<v Speaker 6>you want to name, the only one that's ever done

932
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:34.039
<v Speaker 6>that from the start of his career is Mike Commons.

933
00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Plus, the players love him, or at least seem to,

934
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:40.599
<v Speaker 1>and he seems like the perfect fit in that town,

935
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:43.320
<v Speaker 1>in that market, which a city you know pretty well.

936
00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:45.239
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, I know we kind of got

937
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:46.840
<v Speaker 1>off on a tangent there, but I wanted to get

938
00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:50.039
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts because I've enjoyed, as someone who's not hip

939
00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:52.280
<v Speaker 1>deep in it by a friends who are Steelers fans

940
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's just it's just really interesting. A few minutes

941
00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:57.360
<v Speaker 1>left with Mike the Corsi of the Sporting News, this

942
00:54:57.480 --> 00:54:59.760
<v Speaker 1>just popped into my head, speaking of coaches, what do

943
00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:02.960
<v Speaker 1>you make of what's going on up at Yukon with

944
00:55:03.079 --> 00:55:06.719
<v Speaker 1>coach Hurley up there? I mean, people are asking me,

945
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:08.519
<v Speaker 1>do you think he lost his mind? I think he's

946
00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:11.920
<v Speaker 1>pretty He's wrapped pretty tightly, wound up pretty tightly. But

947
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:12.760
<v Speaker 1>what do you see?

948
00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:16.599
<v Speaker 6>You know, when he is just away from the floor,

949
00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:20.599
<v Speaker 6>he's the calmest, most normal person you ever meet. I mean,

950
00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:22.599
<v Speaker 6>I know I'm not living in his house every day

951
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:28.480
<v Speaker 6>and all that, but like being around him. I do

952
00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:33.119
<v Speaker 6>this inside the Big East program for Fox every week,

953
00:55:33.239 --> 00:55:37.639
<v Speaker 6>and he's often you know, he's always willing to talk

954
00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:42.039
<v Speaker 6>if I need something. He's a really good guy. And

955
00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:45.599
<v Speaker 6>there's just something I've been I used this analogy. I've

956
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:48.599
<v Speaker 6>been seeing these commercials the last couple of weeks from

957
00:55:48.599 --> 00:55:51.880
<v Speaker 6>the new Captain America film. I'm not the biggest superhero guy,

958
00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:55.239
<v Speaker 6>but I see the commercials and I see Harrison Ford

959
00:55:55.239 --> 00:55:58.880
<v Speaker 6>turn into like an older Hulk, and that's sort of

960
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:01.400
<v Speaker 6>how it works for And when he gets to the floor,

961
00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:05.079
<v Speaker 6>he gets onto that bench, and it's just he's just different.

962
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:09.400
<v Speaker 6>And I think that it's I don't think it helps him.

963
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:13.039
<v Speaker 6>I think he feels like it does, because I think

964
00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:15.239
<v Speaker 6>he feels like he if he doesn't do it, he's

965
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:18.440
<v Speaker 6>not competing, he's not battling for his guys. But I

966
00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:21.079
<v Speaker 6>don't think it helps him. I don't think it helps

967
00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:25.800
<v Speaker 6>his public image. We've seen different coaches over the years

968
00:56:26.119 --> 00:56:28.559
<v Speaker 6>who were that person away from the floor, and I

969
00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:31.519
<v Speaker 6>don't think I have to mention any names, but people

970
00:56:31.599 --> 00:56:34.719
<v Speaker 6>like Geene Katie, who everybody had a negative impression of

971
00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:37.840
<v Speaker 6>until you find out like this guy's like the sweetest

972
00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:40.800
<v Speaker 6>person on the planet. And when I first met Gene,

973
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:43.239
<v Speaker 6>I was like, wait a second, who is this guy?

974
00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:48.159
<v Speaker 6>And so I don't think that Dan does himself any

975
00:56:48.159 --> 00:56:52.000
<v Speaker 6>favors that way, and it's probably and it has cost

976
00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:55.480
<v Speaker 6>him games. I mean it certainly was in difference when

977
00:56:55.480 --> 00:56:59.840
<v Speaker 6>he played in Maui and got TechEd, et cetera. I

978
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:02.679
<v Speaker 6>would like to see him bring it down a notch,

979
00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:05.880
<v Speaker 6>because once he brings it down a notch or two,

980
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:08.840
<v Speaker 6>he's where everybody else is more or less. Yeah, I mean,

981
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:11.519
<v Speaker 6>there aren't any John Woodens anymore just standing there with

982
00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:16.800
<v Speaker 6>their arms folded, everybody gets involved. So I would like

983
00:57:16.840 --> 00:57:19.840
<v Speaker 6>to see him do that because if he brings it down,

984
00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:22.320
<v Speaker 6>then then there's no problem.

985
00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:25.440
<v Speaker 1>And to bring this full circle, I don't know Mike

986
00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:27.599
<v Speaker 1>that he would have been the best fit at Kentucky.

987
00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, as long as he's winning, anybody's a good

988
00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:32.719
<v Speaker 1>fit here. But and you can't really compare him to

989
00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:35.920
<v Speaker 1>what happened with the hiring of Pope. But I just

990
00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:37.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know that that would have worked here. What do

991
00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:38.199
<v Speaker 1>you think?

992
00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:42.679
<v Speaker 6>Well, I think if he was able to do what

993
00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:46.599
<v Speaker 6>he's you know, something approaching what he's done at Yukon,

994
00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:50.400
<v Speaker 6>I think people would have gotten used to it. But

995
00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:54.239
<v Speaker 6>I think that if he'd gone to Yukon to Kentucky,

996
00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:56.639
<v Speaker 6>I think the pressure from the fans might have pushed

997
00:57:56.639 --> 00:57:58.719
<v Speaker 6>it up a notch. And up a notch is like

998
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:02.440
<v Speaker 6>there's no room for upp notch. So that's so that's

999
00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:06.639
<v Speaker 6>what I would worry about. This transplanted to Kentucky, it

1000
00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:10.719
<v Speaker 6>could be okay, But if the Kentucky pressure, and there

1001
00:58:10.800 --> 00:58:13.599
<v Speaker 6>is more pressure at Kentucky than there is most places,

1002
00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:16.960
<v Speaker 6>if the Kentucky pressure had had made it more intense,

1003
00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:19.800
<v Speaker 6>that could have become significantly problematic.

1004
00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:24.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well we don't have to worry about that, obviously,

1005
00:58:24.239 --> 00:58:27.480
<v Speaker 1>because the story went in another direction with Mark Bope.

1006
00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Have you had a chance to sit down with Mark

1007
00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:30.639
<v Speaker 1>ed I know there's a long list.

1008
00:58:31.400 --> 00:58:33.840
<v Speaker 6>I have not, no, and I would love to because

1009
00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:36.840
<v Speaker 6>if you'll recall, I was the one who on the

1010
00:58:36.960 --> 00:58:42.559
<v Speaker 6>night of the Sunday night before Championship Monday that when

1011
00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:45.559
<v Speaker 6>I got word that John was leaving, I put out

1012
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:48.000
<v Speaker 6>my list and I had Mark number one on the list.

1013
00:58:48.039 --> 00:58:51.039
<v Speaker 6>You did, And I'd like to remind everybody of that,

1014
00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:53.039
<v Speaker 6>because I took a lot of heat that night and

1015
00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:55.800
<v Speaker 6>in the subsequent days until it came out that Mark

1016
00:58:55.920 --> 00:58:59.119
<v Speaker 6>was hiring. Was the hire and he's done wonderfully and

1017
00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:02.880
<v Speaker 6>he has been He has been the kind of person

1018
00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:08.199
<v Speaker 6>that Kentucky wants to embrace, one of theirs, truly one

1019
00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:11.159
<v Speaker 6>of theirs. Although he grew up across the border, he's

1020
00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:16.000
<v Speaker 6>definitely a Kentucky guy, and he's really I always say,

1021
00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:19.199
<v Speaker 6>and have said many times that a job like Kentucky's,

1022
00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:22.760
<v Speaker 6>there's the coaching part, but there's also the senator part, oh,

1023
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:26.599
<v Speaker 6>you know, and you can embrace that in different ways,

1024
00:59:26.599 --> 00:59:29.119
<v Speaker 6>and John did, especially early before things got a little

1025
00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:32.679
<v Speaker 6>rugged ly. He was always you know, leading the charity

1026
00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:36.199
<v Speaker 6>drives and all that. And Mark has done that personal

1027
00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:40.159
<v Speaker 6>touch type senator where people get interact with him and

1028
00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:44.000
<v Speaker 6>they come away beaming, and that's just wonderful to see.

1029
00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Tubby did a good job. Cali Perry did a great

1030
00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:49.920
<v Speaker 1>job at being the ambassador, if you will. Billy Gillespie

1031
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:53.239
<v Speaker 1>from day one not comfortable with it and its show,

1032
00:59:53.320 --> 00:59:56.880
<v Speaker 1>but that's certainly water under that big blue bridge. We think.

1033
00:59:56.960 --> 00:59:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Mike the course, he is always a busy man, but

1034
00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:01.800
<v Speaker 1>he spent time with us. Uh. Follow Mike on Twitter.

1035
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:04.679
<v Speaker 1>You really should at TSN Mike and in the pages

1036
01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:07.079
<v Speaker 1>or online at the Sporting News. Mike. Thank you so much.

1037
01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:08.320
<v Speaker 1>We'll be watching and reading.

1038
01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:09.440
<v Speaker 6>It was my pleasure.

1039
01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:10.199
<v Speaker 7>Dick, thank you.

1040
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<v Speaker 1>I love talking to Mike and you're hearing periodically on

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01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:17.079
<v Speaker 1>with Tom Leach. But he is you. Absolutely if you

1042
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:20.199
<v Speaker 1>love college basketball, you should follow Mike. He's a big

1043
01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:23.000
<v Speaker 1>soccer guy too. He really likes the and I am

1044
01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:26.119
<v Speaker 1>not so I didn't even get into that, but he

1045
01:00:26.280 --> 01:00:28.760
<v Speaker 1>likes the Premier League soccer and all that and uh,

1046
01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:32.000
<v Speaker 1>but a big Steelers guy is a Pittsburgh guy. Uh.

1047
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:37.039
<v Speaker 1>And he is steadfast his admiration for Mike Tomlin. But

1048
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:38.920
<v Speaker 1>as I said to him, and I've texted him and

1049
01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I've hit him on Twitter, you know, Mike is one

1050
01:00:42.400 --> 01:00:45.159
<v Speaker 1>of those guys who is quick with a take, because

1051
01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:49.239
<v Speaker 1>that's what everybody wants these days. But it's always well reasoned,

1052
01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:54.519
<v Speaker 1>based on common sense, not emotional. It's it's it's logical.

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01:00:55.199 --> 01:00:55.280
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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01:00:55.320 --> 01:00:57.039
<v Speaker 1>And like I said, I kind of tease him every

1055
01:00:57.079 --> 01:00:59.119
<v Speaker 1>now and there you go with that common sense again

1056
01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:03.000
<v Speaker 1>on on social media. So yeah, TSN, Mike is where

1057
01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:05.599
<v Speaker 1>to find him on extra Twitter and trust me, you

1058
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:08.199
<v Speaker 1>will be glad that you did. And he really admires

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<v Speaker 1>UK basketball. Christy Thomas is next on six thirty WLAP

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider, joining us down

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01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:18.400
<v Speaker 1>our celebrity hotline. One of my favorite people. Former colleague

1062
01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:21.599
<v Speaker 1>at wkby Team, now a colleague on the UK Sports Network.

1063
01:01:21.719 --> 01:01:24.559
<v Speaker 1>You also see her work on SEC Plus with Jeff

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01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:28.280
<v Speaker 1>picoryl covering UK women's basketball and be the end game

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01:01:28.360 --> 01:01:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Day on Laxaighteam, Miss Christy Thomas. Christy, I'm gonna start

1066
01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:35.400
<v Speaker 1>with the UK women. Well, then we're going to backpedal

1067
01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:38.519
<v Speaker 1>through Calipari's return. Because you guys talked about that on

1068
01:01:38.599 --> 01:01:41.800
<v Speaker 1>game day in Kentucky Football, because of course you anchor

1069
01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:45.480
<v Speaker 1>our pregame coverage. But Georgia Amore, I mean, come on,

1070
01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:51.400
<v Speaker 1>and she talked a header on earlier talking about how

1071
01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:54.719
<v Speaker 1>different guards guard her in a different way. But you know,

1072
01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:58.519
<v Speaker 1>the one girl from Oklahoma gartered her snugly and she

1073
01:01:58.639 --> 01:02:00.880
<v Speaker 1>drove past her. The other one gave her a little

1074
01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:03.119
<v Speaker 1>space to try to cut her off. You shot over her.

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01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how good is this kid? Come on?

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01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:08.079
<v Speaker 8>Well, I've been saying, and I think I've said on

1077
01:02:08.119 --> 01:02:10.480
<v Speaker 8>your show before, this young lady is worth the price

1078
01:02:10.559 --> 01:02:12.599
<v Speaker 8>of admission. And if you haven't seen her play, you

1079
01:02:12.639 --> 01:02:14.599
<v Speaker 8>owe it to yourself to do that. And that doesn't

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01:02:14.599 --> 01:02:16.480
<v Speaker 8>mean you have to see her play live, because she's

1081
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:21.079
<v Speaker 8>just as impressive on television as well. So you know

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01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:25.039
<v Speaker 8>this will be her final year playing collegiate basketball, and

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01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:28.000
<v Speaker 8>you owe it to yourself, if you are a basketball

1084
01:02:28.039 --> 01:02:31.000
<v Speaker 8>fan of any kind, to watch her play. I think

1085
01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:35.320
<v Speaker 8>it's because of there's so many things that I'm so

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01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:38.079
<v Speaker 8>impressed with about this young lady, and you know, one

1087
01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:41.199
<v Speaker 8>of them is certainly her ability. But the reason why

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01:02:41.239 --> 01:02:43.920
<v Speaker 8>her abilities are so good, I think it's because of

1089
01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:49.079
<v Speaker 8>how smart she is, and that comes with experience. She has.

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01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:51.760
<v Speaker 8>Everything has come together for her in such a way

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01:02:51.800 --> 01:02:55.360
<v Speaker 8>that is exactly what you would expect or hope from

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01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:58.400
<v Speaker 8>someone who's had a stellar career already. But to kind

1093
01:02:58.400 --> 01:03:00.920
<v Speaker 8>of go out on top in a way that she

1094
01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:04.320
<v Speaker 8>is playing, I can't imagine the young lady could play

1095
01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:07.360
<v Speaker 8>any better than what she is. She just makes great decisions.

1096
01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:12.320
<v Speaker 8>She is an excellent shooter. She knows how to create space.

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01:03:12.519 --> 01:03:15.880
<v Speaker 8>She's only five six okay, so she's not and I

1098
01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:17.840
<v Speaker 8>think that's on a good day. She's five to six,

1099
01:03:18.320 --> 01:03:21.519
<v Speaker 8>so she doesn't have a ton of size, but she

1100
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:27.199
<v Speaker 8>knows how to use her abilities and her smarts to

1101
01:03:27.280 --> 01:03:31.119
<v Speaker 8>her advantage to create space and get shots, get open looks.

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01:03:31.159 --> 01:03:34.119
<v Speaker 8>And you know, there's as impressive as forty three points

1103
01:03:34.159 --> 01:03:36.880
<v Speaker 8>is against Oklahoma. You know, there's not a game that

1104
01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:39.440
<v Speaker 8>goes by that. I don't look at her assist stats

1105
01:03:39.519 --> 01:03:42.480
<v Speaker 8>and go, yep, that's about what I expected. So you know,

1106
01:03:42.599 --> 01:03:45.440
<v Speaker 8>she's anywhere from eight to ten assists per game, so

1107
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:50.079
<v Speaker 8>you know she knows how and when to distribute and

1108
01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:55.239
<v Speaker 8>is just so fun to watch play. It's so refreshing.

1109
01:03:55.440 --> 01:03:57.599
<v Speaker 8>I think to see her game and what she brings

1110
01:03:57.599 --> 01:03:59.119
<v Speaker 8>to the table for women's basketball.

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01:03:59.320 --> 01:04:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Any Brooks after the game, and he talks about it

1112
01:04:02.119 --> 01:04:05.599
<v Speaker 1>just about every game or every radio show with Darren Hedrick.

1113
01:04:06.079 --> 01:04:08.559
<v Speaker 1>The fact that she's a coach on the floor, as

1114
01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:11.559
<v Speaker 1>you know most good point guards are. But I mean literally,

1115
01:04:11.960 --> 01:04:14.840
<v Speaker 1>she'll come over to him and say, hey, they're doing

1116
01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:16.079
<v Speaker 1>this or they're going to do that, why don't we

1117
01:04:16.159 --> 01:04:18.440
<v Speaker 1>run this? And he said, you know, when she was younger,

1118
01:04:18.480 --> 01:04:20.000
<v Speaker 1>he said, uh huh, right, and then they run. You'd

1119
01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:22.360
<v Speaker 1>run what he wants to run. Now he's like, all right,

1120
01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:26.679
<v Speaker 1>go with it. Whatever you think. You know, incredibly valuable

1121
01:04:27.079 --> 01:04:29.639
<v Speaker 1>ro I mean, Kenny Brook's a good coach anyway, and

1122
01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:31.920
<v Speaker 1>to have an extension of his brain out there on

1123
01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:35.440
<v Speaker 1>the floor. And by the way she can knock down shots,

1124
01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:38.079
<v Speaker 1>that's that's so so great for Kentucky.

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01:04:39.079 --> 01:04:40.480
<v Speaker 8>Well, the only way you can have that is to

1126
01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:43.440
<v Speaker 8>trust a player like that. You don't have that kind

1127
01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:46.320
<v Speaker 8>of relationship or you don't give that kind of a

1128
01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:50.320
<v Speaker 8>player like that that kind of freedom to do those

1129
01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:53.320
<v Speaker 8>kinds of things unless you really trust her. And the

1130
01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:54.800
<v Speaker 8>only way they've been able to do that is to

1131
01:04:54.920 --> 01:04:57.039
<v Speaker 8>establish a relationship. So I said, you know, in a

1132
01:04:57.079 --> 01:04:59.920
<v Speaker 8>world of the transfer portal and players kind of coming

1133
01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:03.679
<v Speaker 8>and going from from programs, the only way they can

1134
01:05:03.719 --> 01:05:06.320
<v Speaker 8>build that trust is through the relationship they've had over

1135
01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:09.599
<v Speaker 8>the years. And to his point, you know, early on

1136
01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:12.159
<v Speaker 8>in her career, she's not really he's not really listening

1137
01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:15.679
<v Speaker 8>to that or saying yeah, okay, okay, and but she

1138
01:05:15.679 --> 01:05:19.159
<v Speaker 8>she has earned his trust. And that's the only way

1139
01:05:19.159 --> 01:05:22.079
<v Speaker 8>that that kind of thing works is that you believe

1140
01:05:22.119 --> 01:05:24.199
<v Speaker 8>what she says because she sees it and she understands

1141
01:05:24.239 --> 01:05:27.039
<v Speaker 8>that she speaks your language. Number two, right, I mean,

1142
01:05:27.079 --> 01:05:28.800
<v Speaker 8>you all have to be on the same page and

1143
01:05:28.840 --> 01:05:31.159
<v Speaker 8>speak the same language in order for those kind of

1144
01:05:31.159 --> 01:05:32.960
<v Speaker 8>things to work. And then you go out and prove

1145
01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:35.960
<v Speaker 8>that you're right, and she does that time and time again.

1146
01:05:36.159 --> 01:05:39.000
<v Speaker 8>So two things have to happen. You have to have

1147
01:05:39.039 --> 01:05:42.079
<v Speaker 8>an excellent relationship a player coach relationship, and then you

1148
01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:43.760
<v Speaker 8>have to have some trust. And they've been able to

1149
01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:46.159
<v Speaker 8>build both of those things in a way that is

1150
01:05:46.239 --> 01:05:48.079
<v Speaker 8>really very special and you just don't see in the

1151
01:05:48.079 --> 01:05:48.920
<v Speaker 8>game very often.

1152
01:05:49.159 --> 01:05:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Last time I was at a game and at the Collegeum,

1153
01:05:52.440 --> 01:05:54.159
<v Speaker 1>you guys were working. You and Jeff I have a

1154
01:05:54.239 --> 01:05:56.519
<v Speaker 1>couple of seats down from you, sitting next to Carolina,

1155
01:05:56.519 --> 01:06:01.199
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just watching the ball movement and this is

1156
01:06:01.239 --> 01:06:03.920
<v Speaker 1>not just about Georgia, but it starts with her. And

1157
01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:06.440
<v Speaker 1>the one thing I noticed that it never sticks. I

1158
01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:09.079
<v Speaker 1>mean the ball. Not only does the ball always move,

1159
01:06:09.960 --> 01:06:13.039
<v Speaker 1>but everybody moves with purpose. And this is an experience,

1160
01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:16.440
<v Speaker 1>This is a product of an experienced team. How much,

1161
01:06:16.599 --> 01:06:19.519
<v Speaker 1>of course does that factor into their success.

1162
01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:23.440
<v Speaker 8>It's everything, And I think you hit the nail on

1163
01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:26.079
<v Speaker 8>the head is moving the ball with purpose. It's not

1164
01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:28.960
<v Speaker 8>just about Okay, well, the plays to do this, so

1165
01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:31.320
<v Speaker 8>that's what we're supposed to do. I think I'm teaching

1166
01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:34.079
<v Speaker 8>or trying to help my sixth grader understand that right

1167
01:06:34.119 --> 01:06:36.559
<v Speaker 8>now is yes, I know that the play you're supposed

1168
01:06:36.599 --> 01:06:38.159
<v Speaker 8>to go here in set a screen there, and then

1169
01:06:38.159 --> 01:06:41.000
<v Speaker 8>this player cuts here and the past goes there. But

1170
01:06:42.039 --> 01:06:45.079
<v Speaker 8>it doesn't always have to be that way, right, I mean,

1171
01:06:45.079 --> 01:06:47.760
<v Speaker 8>you have to start to read the defense a little bit,

1172
01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:50.039
<v Speaker 8>and you have to start to understand what they're giving

1173
01:06:50.079 --> 01:06:52.880
<v Speaker 8>you and how they're playing you. And there's a real

1174
01:06:55.000 --> 01:06:57.840
<v Speaker 8>understanding of basketball to be able to sort of get

1175
01:06:58.039 --> 01:07:00.719
<v Speaker 8>to that point. And I think that's it. Moving the

1176
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:04.360
<v Speaker 8>ball with purpose means that you really understand how an

1177
01:07:04.360 --> 01:07:07.519
<v Speaker 8>opposing defense is defending you and what they're doing and

1178
01:07:07.519 --> 01:07:09.920
<v Speaker 8>what they're giving you, and then what's available to you,

1179
01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:12.440
<v Speaker 8>and then if it's not available to you, one extra

1180
01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:13.360
<v Speaker 8>pass will make it.

1181
01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:14.119
<v Speaker 1>So.

1182
01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:16.360
<v Speaker 8>So I think that's the thing that is so impressive

1183
01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:18.519
<v Speaker 8>about this team is I think that that we're seeing

1184
01:07:18.519 --> 01:07:21.960
<v Speaker 8>and understanding they really understand the game and they really

1185
01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:24.280
<v Speaker 8>get it. And then when you can also create a

1186
01:07:24.320 --> 01:07:27.360
<v Speaker 8>culture of making the extra pass because it's the right

1187
01:07:27.400 --> 01:07:29.519
<v Speaker 8>thing to do and because it's the best thing for

1188
01:07:29.559 --> 01:07:33.519
<v Speaker 8>the team and not necessarily patting your stat line, then

1189
01:07:33.559 --> 01:07:36.920
<v Speaker 8>you've really got something. So I think that's somehow, some way.

1190
01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:39.480
<v Speaker 8>Kenny Brooks has been able to do that with almost

1191
01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:42.440
<v Speaker 8>an entirely new roster in a very short amount of time.

1192
01:07:42.480 --> 01:07:44.400
<v Speaker 8>If you think about it, I mean, this is he's had,

1193
01:07:44.559 --> 01:07:47.679
<v Speaker 8>He's had a few months before the season started to

1194
01:07:47.679 --> 01:07:49.559
<v Speaker 8>be able to try to pull all that together, and

1195
01:07:49.599 --> 01:07:51.320
<v Speaker 8>it's really happening well.

1196
01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:54.440
<v Speaker 1>And that said, and I've talked about it before, it's

1197
01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:57.320
<v Speaker 1>a brutal schedule in the SEC. We all know this

1198
01:07:57.519 --> 01:07:59.880
<v Speaker 1>for the women, not just the men, but the tough

1199
01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:04.280
<v Speaker 1>those games lay ahead for the Wildcats. How do you

1200
01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:08.800
<v Speaker 1>think this team is shaping up with regard to how

1201
01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:12.480
<v Speaker 1>they just might be able to compete, because you know,

1202
01:08:12.599 --> 01:08:15.280
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about the most physical teams in the country

1203
01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:15.880
<v Speaker 1>lay ahead.

1204
01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:20.239
<v Speaker 8>Well, I think oftentimes, you know, you consider teams seem

1205
01:08:20.319 --> 01:08:22.760
<v Speaker 8>to play really well at home and maybe struggle a

1206
01:08:22.800 --> 01:08:26.399
<v Speaker 8>bit on the road. And we've really only seen Kentucky

1207
01:08:26.439 --> 01:08:29.600
<v Speaker 8>struggle on the road once. And you know, so I

1208
01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:32.600
<v Speaker 8>think them going to Norman, Oklahoma and getting a win

1209
01:08:32.680 --> 01:08:36.159
<v Speaker 8>over a thirteenth ranked team in the country and scoring

1210
01:08:36.239 --> 01:08:38.880
<v Speaker 8>ninety five points and coming from behind and dealing with

1211
01:08:38.920 --> 01:08:40.800
<v Speaker 8>some foul trouble, you know, Dick in that game, they

1212
01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:42.800
<v Speaker 8>had three players foul out. And this team does not

1213
01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:45.319
<v Speaker 8>go deep. They don't play a lot of players, so

1214
01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:49.159
<v Speaker 8>that's facing some real adversity there to try to navigate

1215
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:52.760
<v Speaker 8>that and figure out how to handle that. So I

1216
01:08:52.760 --> 01:08:54.960
<v Speaker 8>think that was huge for this team to be able

1217
01:08:55.000 --> 01:08:57.760
<v Speaker 8>to do something like that, To go on the road

1218
01:08:57.840 --> 01:09:01.159
<v Speaker 8>and play so impressively and get a win, grind it out,

1219
01:09:01.199 --> 01:09:04.079
<v Speaker 8>gut it out, but then score ninety five points, I

1220
01:09:04.119 --> 01:09:07.199
<v Speaker 8>think is is huge. So you know, this this team

1221
01:09:07.640 --> 01:09:12.520
<v Speaker 8>certainly understands what they're doing and how and what lies ahead.

1222
01:09:12.560 --> 01:09:13.800
<v Speaker 8>I mean, I think you know, to go to Ole

1223
01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:16.560
<v Speaker 8>Miss on the road, tough place to play, and then

1224
01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:18.680
<v Speaker 8>you come back home with Texas. I mean, this thing

1225
01:09:18.720 --> 01:09:21.520
<v Speaker 8>doesn't it doesn't get any easier. And oh, by the way,

1226
01:09:21.560 --> 01:09:23.800
<v Speaker 8>Tennessee and South Carolina are still on the schedule.

1227
01:09:23.800 --> 01:09:24.479
<v Speaker 7>Oh and LSU.

1228
01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:27.439
<v Speaker 8>I mean, what a what a crazy way to finish

1229
01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:29.359
<v Speaker 8>out a schedule. I mean their last three games go

1230
01:09:29.560 --> 01:09:33.319
<v Speaker 8>L s U, Tennessee and South Carolina. So I mean,

1231
01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:36.640
<v Speaker 8>that's that's pretty incredible to think about. But I do

1232
01:09:36.680 --> 01:09:39.159
<v Speaker 8>think this team was built for it in a way

1233
01:09:39.239 --> 01:09:41.600
<v Speaker 8>that you know, you have to have. I think you

1234
01:09:41.640 --> 01:09:45.279
<v Speaker 8>have to have some real mental we talked about and

1235
01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:48.199
<v Speaker 8>being really smart in terms of basketball, but you have

1236
01:09:48.319 --> 01:09:51.279
<v Speaker 8>to have the mental wherewithal to kind of be able

1237
01:09:51.319 --> 01:09:54.159
<v Speaker 8>to withstand, you know, some adversity and play through it.

1238
01:09:54.199 --> 01:09:56.880
<v Speaker 8>And this is a team that I think, starting with

1239
01:09:56.920 --> 01:10:00.399
<v Speaker 8>Georgia Amore, you will never know whether she's rattled or

1240
01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:03.199
<v Speaker 8>she doesn't really get rattled, but you will never know

1241
01:10:03.479 --> 01:10:06.039
<v Speaker 8>how frustrated she is. She had a couple of games ago,

1242
01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:11.920
<v Speaker 8>you know, when they actually lost a little earlier to Texas,

1243
01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:14.119
<v Speaker 8>A and M where she didn't play. She didn't shoot

1244
01:10:14.159 --> 01:10:15.680
<v Speaker 8>very well. Wasn't that she didn't play well, she just

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<v Speaker 8>didn't shoot very well. There's never a moment that you

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<v Speaker 8>would look at her face and be able to tell

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<v Speaker 8>that she's frustrated. And that's a gift. I mean, that's

1248
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<v Speaker 8>something that takes real discipline to be able to do,

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01:10:26.119 --> 01:10:28.520
<v Speaker 8>and I think this team does that well. So they

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01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:31.399
<v Speaker 8>handle adversity really well and they can fight through it

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<v Speaker 8>and play through it, and that'll definitely serve them well

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<v Speaker 8>in a tough portion of this schedule that I think

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<v Speaker 8>is That's why I say they're built for it. Kenny

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<v Speaker 8>Brooks is very much that way, cool, calm and collected.

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01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:45.960
<v Speaker 8>He stays pretty even keeled. He coaches that way. His

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01:10:46.079 --> 01:10:48.520
<v Speaker 8>demeanor is that way, and I think his team is

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01:10:48.600 --> 01:10:50.680
<v Speaker 8>reflective of that, and I think that'll serve them well

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<v Speaker 8>down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they got a chance to show just how well,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, every week starting with at least they

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01:10:56.159 --> 01:10:58.319
<v Speaker 1>got a week off coming up prior to the Old

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<v Speaker 1>Miss game. We'll talk more of a Christy tom Us

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the break here on six

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<v Speaker 1>thirty WLAP Welcome Back. We're talking Christy Thomas of the

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<v Speaker 1>UK Network is HEC Network and BBN Game Day. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's start there Saturday morning. You know, you guys present

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<v Speaker 1>BBN Game Day for a ballgame that took place twelve

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<v Speaker 1>hours later, nine o'clock Saturday night. But boy, the build

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<v Speaker 1>up was literally like nothing else we had ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I worked together a long time ago at KYT,

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01:11:28.239 --> 01:11:31.760
<v Speaker 1>but this this was unusual. And then Caliperry comes in

1272
01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:35.800
<v Speaker 1>and the guys from Kentucky who played there last year,

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01:11:36.119 --> 01:11:38.039
<v Speaker 1>played as well as they ever did. Of course, they

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01:11:38.039 --> 01:11:39.920
<v Speaker 1>had a year. That's what a lot of people don't get.

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01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Christy and you played, you know, DJ Wagner never played this.

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01:11:43.079 --> 01:11:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Wee no, we had a year to get better, and

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01:11:45.600 --> 01:11:48.000
<v Speaker 1>so did Z instead of especially Ad Theerro.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, if those guys aren't better, then something's wrong.

1279
01:11:51.760 --> 01:11:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 8>This is how it works. Yeah, this is just how

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01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:56.920
<v Speaker 8>it goes. And this is why we all claimer and

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01:11:57.000 --> 01:11:59.319
<v Speaker 8>screen for these guys to stick around, right, I mean,

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01:11:59.359 --> 01:12:01.439
<v Speaker 8>we're all all saying, one more year in college. Can

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<v Speaker 8>imagine what one more year in college to do for

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01:12:03.279 --> 01:12:05.600
<v Speaker 8>these guys? Right, Well, we're now seeing what one more

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01:12:05.680 --> 01:12:07.760
<v Speaker 8>year in college can do for these guys. What one

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01:12:07.800 --> 01:12:10.680
<v Speaker 8>more year you know, under a certain system can do

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<v Speaker 8>for these guys, I would absolutely expect them to be better.

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01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:17.720
<v Speaker 8>It would be disappointing if they weren't. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 8>mean I expected the the emotions to be really high,

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<v Speaker 8>and I think, you know, for Kentucky it was. It

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01:12:22.560 --> 01:12:25.239
<v Speaker 8>was a tough go to not have a Lamont Butler.

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<v Speaker 8>I say, listen to that when when this this game

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01:12:28.039 --> 01:12:31.840
<v Speaker 8>is different under different circumstances. But you know, I think

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01:12:31.880 --> 01:12:34.279
<v Speaker 8>that's one of those if you're Kentucky, you really wanted

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<v Speaker 8>to get the win that I'll be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 8>As as a fan, Okay, let me take myself out

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01:12:39.560 --> 01:12:41.920
<v Speaker 8>of being someone who covers the team, but but just

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01:12:41.960 --> 01:12:43.880
<v Speaker 8>be a fan, I'm kind of just glad it's over with,

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01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:45.760
<v Speaker 8>Like you just want to get that behind you and

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01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:48.000
<v Speaker 8>get that done. And I think about that in a

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01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:49.960
<v Speaker 8>lot of ways, even as an athlete. You know, sometimes

1303
01:12:49.960 --> 01:12:53.159
<v Speaker 8>you just just just get that that game done and

1304
01:12:53.199 --> 01:12:55.439
<v Speaker 8>over with, regardless of outcome. So now we can say

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01:12:55.479 --> 01:12:59.000
<v Speaker 8>it's done because you know, these guys certainly feel the

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01:12:59.399 --> 01:13:02.479
<v Speaker 8>pressure and to talk and the build up. They get

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01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:04.600
<v Speaker 8>it too. They understand what's at.

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<v Speaker 6>Stake, and that can weigh really heavy on you.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean that can really start to put a lot

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01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:13.880
<v Speaker 8>of pressure, undue pressure on you when there's already enough

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01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:16.079
<v Speaker 8>there as it is. So you know, if I'm if

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<v Speaker 8>I'm Mark Pope, I'm like, I'm just glad it's done.

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01:13:18.840 --> 01:13:20.800
<v Speaker 8>I'm glad that game's over with. I'm glad we got

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01:13:20.840 --> 01:13:23.520
<v Speaker 8>it behind us, and now let's move on and focus.

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01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:27.760
<v Speaker 8>Are you disappointed you lost, absolutely, but let's move on well.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's got so many more problems to deal with,

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01:13:30.720 --> 01:13:33.760
<v Speaker 1>and they're starting with his roster, the injury list. You

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01:13:33.840 --> 01:13:37.560
<v Speaker 1>gotta Andrew Carr is just not the same, and he

1319
01:13:37.800 --> 01:13:40.720
<v Speaker 1>is a good Defender's not great, but a good defender.

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01:13:40.960 --> 01:13:44.279
<v Speaker 1>His best defenders Lamart Butler, and lord knows when we'll

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01:13:44.319 --> 01:13:49.439
<v Speaker 1>see him again. It's pretty cryptic Pope's comments talking about

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01:13:49.479 --> 01:13:52.239
<v Speaker 1>two games into a second season. It's like, boys, we

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01:13:52.319 --> 01:13:55.159
<v Speaker 1>got to adjust, you know, to the fact that we

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01:13:55.319 --> 01:13:57.920
<v Speaker 1>don't have our point guard. That sounded to me like

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01:13:58.079 --> 01:14:01.960
<v Speaker 1>that's what he was saying. Yeah, you talk about a

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01:14:02.039 --> 01:14:03.560
<v Speaker 1>hill getting much deeper.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, and I think you just have to sort of

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01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:08.600
<v Speaker 8>prepare that way, because you know, anything can happen. A

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01:14:08.640 --> 01:14:11.079
<v Speaker 8>young man can come back into practice and re injure

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01:14:11.319 --> 01:14:13.199
<v Speaker 8>or just not be exactly where you need him to

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01:14:13.239 --> 01:14:15.039
<v Speaker 8>be and not be ready to go. So you have

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<v Speaker 8>to you do have to in your mind sort of

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01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:20.520
<v Speaker 8>shift to say, okay, well what we got to go

1334
01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:22.880
<v Speaker 8>is what we got and what'sn't sure thing and what's

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01:14:22.880 --> 01:14:27.359
<v Speaker 8>one hundred percent And you know you mentioned it earlier

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01:14:27.399 --> 01:14:31.119
<v Speaker 8>where we're talking about players getting better. This this also

1337
01:14:31.159 --> 01:14:33.520
<v Speaker 8>happens during the season as well too. So your first

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01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:35.680
<v Speaker 8>five games out of the gate that you play, you

1339
01:14:35.720 --> 01:14:38.680
<v Speaker 8>should be very different now in this part of the

1340
01:14:38.680 --> 01:14:40.720
<v Speaker 8>season and you should be playing better and you should

1341
01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:44.239
<v Speaker 8>be you know, doing things better. So you know, I

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01:14:44.239 --> 01:14:45.960
<v Speaker 8>think that's part of it as well too, is you've

1343
01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:47.720
<v Speaker 8>got to have some of these guys come along. I mean,

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01:14:47.800 --> 01:14:49.680
<v Speaker 8>we talk about player development and that kind of thing,

1345
01:14:49.680 --> 01:14:53.680
<v Speaker 8>and this should be happening continually throughout a season and

1346
01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:56.399
<v Speaker 8>from one season to the next, so you know, and

1347
01:14:56.399 --> 01:14:58.079
<v Speaker 8>this is where you start to find out what guys

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01:14:58.119 --> 01:15:00.039
<v Speaker 8>are made of. When you've got to step up and

1349
01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:03.399
<v Speaker 8>and take the place of somebody that is you got

1350
01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:05.520
<v Speaker 8>a still avoid and whatever that is that you can

1351
01:15:05.560 --> 01:15:07.239
<v Speaker 8>do to fill that void is what you have to do,

1352
01:15:07.319 --> 01:15:08.640
<v Speaker 8>and you got to do it at a high level.

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<v Speaker 1>A few minutes left with Christy Thomas. I'm going to

1354
01:15:12.119 --> 01:15:14.760
<v Speaker 1>ask you a football question, but we'll talk about the

1355
01:15:14.800 --> 01:15:19.680
<v Speaker 1>more UK football spring practice draws near. But Kentucky got

1356
01:15:19.680 --> 01:15:23.600
<v Speaker 1>a late commitment another old lineman through the portal, UH

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01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:30.079
<v Speaker 1>six six three sixty, Jason at Perua from Tennessee. Eric

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01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Walford offered him back in June after an unofficial visit

1359
01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:37.439
<v Speaker 1>and he finally said yes to the wildcatch after a

1360
01:15:37.439 --> 01:15:40.680
<v Speaker 1>few other trips, which is fine. That makes Christy. Five

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01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:45.920
<v Speaker 1>new old linemen coming through the portal. How optimistic, if

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01:15:45.960 --> 01:15:50.960
<v Speaker 1>at all, are you about Kentucky cobbling together essentially a

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01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:53.119
<v Speaker 1>brand new old line maybe four out of five new

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01:15:53.159 --> 01:15:56.319
<v Speaker 1>faces for a group that's got to act as one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the line that we always come back to when

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01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:01.199
<v Speaker 1>it comes to the offensive line. You know, five guys

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01:16:01.239 --> 01:16:04.279
<v Speaker 1>acting as one and these are these guys are getting

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01:16:04.239 --> 01:16:05.359
<v Speaker 1>annoy each other right now.

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<v Speaker 8>I would say cautiously, it would be cautiously optimistic only

1370
01:16:10.600 --> 01:16:13.319
<v Speaker 8>because you know, because of that exactly, and I think

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01:16:13.359 --> 01:16:16.640
<v Speaker 8>it doesn't matter the sport when you bring new players

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01:16:16.720 --> 01:16:20.159
<v Speaker 8>together in a new environment, in a new school, in

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01:16:20.199 --> 01:16:23.119
<v Speaker 8>a in a new with a new coaching staff, with

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01:16:23.439 --> 01:16:26.479
<v Speaker 8>all of it's new for them. That's tough. I mean,

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01:16:26.479 --> 01:16:28.159
<v Speaker 8>it's hard to do. And some of that has to

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01:16:28.159 --> 01:16:31.560
<v Speaker 8>be so organic. Some of those guys coming together has

1377
01:16:31.640 --> 01:16:34.520
<v Speaker 8>to be so organic, and if they're not willing to

1378
01:16:34.600 --> 01:16:37.239
<v Speaker 8>do that, then you can't force it. And you know,

1379
01:16:37.399 --> 01:16:40.479
<v Speaker 8>I've talked to Logan Stenberg about this, you know, at nauseum,

1380
01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:43.039
<v Speaker 8>I think throughout the year kind of figuring out, trying

1381
01:16:43.079 --> 01:16:45.600
<v Speaker 8>to figure out what was what was going wrong with

1382
01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:48.319
<v Speaker 8>the offensive line at the time. And you know, a

1383
01:16:48.359 --> 01:16:50.880
<v Speaker 8>lot of what he talked about with them coming together

1384
01:16:51.159 --> 01:16:54.239
<v Speaker 8>was player driven. So you know, they spent all of

1385
01:16:54.319 --> 01:16:57.079
<v Speaker 8>their time together, but that's because they chose to do that. So,

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01:16:57.880 --> 01:16:59.560
<v Speaker 8>you know, I think there has to be some decisions

1387
01:16:59.560 --> 01:17:02.600
<v Speaker 8>that are made by players understanding what their role is

1388
01:17:02.640 --> 01:17:04.640
<v Speaker 8>and how that works. It doesn't mean you have to eat, sleep,

1389
01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:07.039
<v Speaker 8>and breathe each other as part of the offensive line,

1390
01:17:07.199 --> 01:17:10.000
<v Speaker 8>but I do think you have to have some player leadership.

1391
01:17:10.359 --> 01:17:12.439
<v Speaker 8>You have to have someone in that room that says,

1392
01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:13.880
<v Speaker 8>this is what we're going to do and this is

1393
01:17:13.920 --> 01:17:15.359
<v Speaker 8>how we're going to do it, and now everybody get

1394
01:17:15.399 --> 01:17:18.560
<v Speaker 8>on board. And sometimes that's hard to find who that

1395
01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:21.520
<v Speaker 8>leader can be when they are all new. It's got

1396
01:17:21.560 --> 01:17:23.680
<v Speaker 8>to be somebody that's willing to kind of step out

1397
01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:26.399
<v Speaker 8>of their comfort and maybe just a little bit, you know,

1398
01:17:26.479 --> 01:17:29.159
<v Speaker 8>in a new environment, to go, okay, I see what's

1399
01:17:29.199 --> 01:17:31.720
<v Speaker 8>ahead of us here. I know I'm new, but I'm

1400
01:17:31.760 --> 01:17:33.840
<v Speaker 8>willing to do this, and so you know that's my

1401
01:17:33.920 --> 01:17:36.800
<v Speaker 8>hope is outside. I love the size, I love the

1402
01:17:36.840 --> 01:17:39.439
<v Speaker 8>experience that we see coming in. I love all those things.

1403
01:17:39.680 --> 01:17:42.159
<v Speaker 8>I think the biggest thing for me, then, is who

1404
01:17:42.239 --> 01:17:45.840
<v Speaker 8>in that room can be the guy to say I'm

1405
01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:48.199
<v Speaker 8>taking charge, this is what we're going to do, this

1406
01:17:48.239 --> 01:17:49.680
<v Speaker 8>is how we're going to just how we're all going

1407
01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:52.520
<v Speaker 8>to come together to be able to play well. And

1408
01:17:52.720 --> 01:17:54.359
<v Speaker 8>you know, we'll be interesting to see who that is.

1409
01:17:54.439 --> 01:17:56.760
<v Speaker 1>And it has to be somebody, quite frankly, who can

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01:17:56.800 --> 01:17:59.439
<v Speaker 1>play it. Can't grind it. With all due respect, it

1411
01:17:59.439 --> 01:18:03.039
<v Speaker 1>can't be. It's got to be somebody who leads both

1412
01:18:03.079 --> 01:18:06.119
<v Speaker 1>by example and vocally, because I've heard many guys say,

1413
01:18:06.159 --> 01:18:09.039
<v Speaker 1>well I lead by example. Well, I means you're not

1414
01:18:09.079 --> 01:18:09.840
<v Speaker 1>really a leader.

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01:18:10.000 --> 01:18:13.119
<v Speaker 8>You know, I think well, and leading by example is great.

1416
01:18:13.119 --> 01:18:15.319
<v Speaker 8>I mean everybody needs to see a guy doing something

1417
01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:17.840
<v Speaker 8>well and try to emulate that and go, oh, I see, okay,

1418
01:18:17.840 --> 01:18:19.880
<v Speaker 8>he's getting playing time because he's doing this, this and

1419
01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:23.319
<v Speaker 8>this on the field. And that's that's great that those

1420
01:18:23.399 --> 01:18:27.640
<v Speaker 8>kinds of leaders do exist. But I think ultimately what

1421
01:18:27.680 --> 01:18:32.159
<v Speaker 8>this offensive line has lacked and is desperate for is

1422
01:18:32.319 --> 01:18:34.720
<v Speaker 8>exactly what you're saying, someone that can do both and

1423
01:18:35.199 --> 01:18:38.520
<v Speaker 8>can do it very well. And you know, I think

1424
01:18:38.560 --> 01:18:41.880
<v Speaker 8>that's especially considering that the fan base has been so

1425
01:18:42.079 --> 01:18:45.960
<v Speaker 8>disappointed in how this has gone. I mean, the expectations

1426
01:18:45.960 --> 01:18:48.680
<v Speaker 8>are going to be incredibly high, and we're also going

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01:18:48.720 --> 01:18:51.159
<v Speaker 8>to be critical, I think as well too, maybe even

1428
01:18:51.159 --> 01:18:53.720
<v Speaker 8>more so than we have been, just because we've been

1429
01:18:53.880 --> 01:18:57.920
<v Speaker 8>so desperately seeking some one and you know, so my

1430
01:18:58.279 --> 01:19:00.239
<v Speaker 8>hope is is that something that you know, the coaching

1431
01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:03.800
<v Speaker 8>staff has seen as being really necessary and that's the

1432
01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:07.119
<v Speaker 8>kind of player that they've brought in. It remains to

1433
01:19:07.119 --> 01:19:08.680
<v Speaker 8>be seen. I think the spring game this year will

1434
01:19:08.680 --> 01:19:11.760
<v Speaker 8>be so annoying to kind of see, you know, how

1435
01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:12.880
<v Speaker 8>all this starts to shake out.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait. She has Christy Thomas listened for on

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01:19:16.039 --> 01:19:19.560
<v Speaker 1>the UK radio network, Watcher on SEC Plus and BBN

1438
01:19:19.640 --> 01:19:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Game Day and follow her on Twitter at Christi UK

1439
01:19:22.880 --> 01:19:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Sports Christie with an eye. Thank you, young lady. We'll

1440
01:19:25.600 --> 01:19:26.520
<v Speaker 1>see you soon, I hope.

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01:19:26.720 --> 01:19:27.560
<v Speaker 8>Thanks for having me.

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01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Thanks as well to Tom Leates, Mike de COURSI, that's

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01:19:30.279 --> 01:19:32.359
<v Speaker 1>a good night from the garage and Lexington.

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01:19:32.720 --> 01:19:35.159
<v Speaker 5>That sounded like an explosion at the old Simpson place.

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01:19:35.680 --> 01:19:36.199
<v Speaker 2>Forget it.

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01:19:36.239 --> 01:19:38.800
<v Speaker 5>That's two blocks away. Looks like there's beer coming out

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01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:41.720
<v Speaker 5>of the chimney. I am proceeding on foot calling at

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<v Speaker 5>code eight.

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<v Speaker 6>We did pretzels, repeat pretzels.

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<v Speaker 2>Nanga
