1 00:00:02,319 --> 00:00:03,839 Speaker 1: World of Cougar Athletics. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: Here from players, coaches and experts on all the latest 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:08,599 happenings with the Krugers. 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 3: Welcome back in the Sports one of three nine ninety 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,399 eight point three ESPN the Fan. I'm been Colonel broadcasting 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,120 from our ultimate tailgamer just south of Lavelle Eedwards Stadium 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:20,640 at the Swig. 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,519 Speaker 1: Come on buy the Loo Royal Army brand. 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 3: He's in attendance. We have Breck Tech out here cooking 10 00:00:25,359 --> 00:00:25,920 up a storm. 11 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: Getting yourself. 12 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 3: Get yourself some delicious and nutritious pulled pork. We love 13 00:00:31,079 --> 00:00:34,399 giving you Cougar Sports commentary prior to kickoff. We appreciate 14 00:00:34,439 --> 00:00:37,479 you being a part of our pregame show, the Holy War. 15 00:00:37,439 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: Edition of the Pregame Show. 16 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,039 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a fantastic event tonight at Leavell Edwards Stadium, 17 00:00:42,119 --> 00:00:43,039 six pm kickoff. 18 00:00:43,039 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: It's gonna be on Fox. 19 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,079 Speaker 3: If you're not attending the game, it's a sold out 20 00:00:46,079 --> 00:00:51,280 crowd over sixty four thousand. We'll converge on this fantastic venue, 21 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:56,079 a legendary venue. But if you are watching it from home, 22 00:00:56,719 --> 00:00:59,240 it should be great. Jason Bennetti's on the play by play. 23 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,520 Robert Griffin is the analyst and then Alexa Landstoy is 24 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:08,959 the sideline reporter guys. Kyle Whittingham in his twenty first year. 25 00:01:10,159 --> 00:01:13,319 He is a BYU alum. Okay, his career record won 26 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:18,359 seventy two and eighty seven and he's been I mean, 27 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,439 it's inarguable he is the greatest head coach in Utah 28 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,799 football history. Kyle Whittingham versus BYU in the rovaly. Since 29 00:01:27,079 --> 00:01:31,400 taking over as head coach, He's got eleven wins, five losses. 30 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,439 By hoping to hand out his six loss this season. 31 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,439 Head coach Kalani Sataki in his tenth year for BYU. 32 00:01:38,599 --> 00:01:41,799 He was an alum in two thousand. His career record 33 00:01:41,799 --> 00:01:44,760 seventy eight and forty three and he is two and 34 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,719 four in the rivaly with two straight wins. He is 35 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,920 hoping to give Kyle whitting Kyle Whittingham his third straight loss. 36 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,799 BYU is not favored in this home game. They have 37 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,560 a home field advantage with the roar of the Cougars 38 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,640 and the Royal Army showing up. But BYU is a 39 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,599 three and a half point dog and the over under 40 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,199 I believe is at forty nine and a half now. 41 00:02:08,719 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: It opened at forty seven and a half. 42 00:02:11,199 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 3: Now, ESPN Analytics does give Byu a slight favorite, as 43 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,120 it puts him as a slight favorite in this game, 44 00:02:17,439 --> 00:02:20,080 but only fifty point six. It's a it's a it's 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,199 a toss up, it's a it's a coin flick by 46 00:02:23,199 --> 00:02:26,039 but which, by the way, Byu has won most of 47 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,919 those those coin tosses this season. So as far as 48 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,719 an injury report is concerned, Byu has a few injuries here. 49 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,520 Marcus McKenzie, that one hurts, especially with your punt cover team. 50 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,400 He's been an MVP on that punk cover Jojo Phillips 51 00:02:41,439 --> 00:02:44,199 out Shae Brian Straw the linebacker out, Shionimo a running 52 00:02:44,199 --> 00:02:48,759 back out, Tommy Prass's defensive back out doubtful is Raider 53 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:53,479 De Mooney and DC Purcell is probable. And then on 54 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,280 the Utah side Rabbit Evans, Nate Richie both safeties with 55 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,360 starting experience. Nate Richie a big loss or the ut 56 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,080 Stage' and Zipper wide receiver that's a loss for them, 57 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:07,439 Hunter Andrews tight end, Josh Sovereign safety so three safeties 58 00:03:07,479 --> 00:03:12,319 out d n Paul Fitzgerald, linebacker Grady Morecco, and offensive 59 00:03:12,319 --> 00:03:16,199 lineman Isaiah Garcia all out. This is the ninety seventh 60 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:21,439 meeting of the BYU and Utah teams, and Utah is 61 00:03:21,479 --> 00:03:24,080 winning the rivalry right now, but since nineteen seventy two, 62 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:25,840 BYU's winning the rivalry. 63 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: Since Levell took over. 64 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,479 Speaker 3: We have a former BYU great on the line to 65 00:03:29,479 --> 00:03:31,319 give us some of his keys to the game. 66 00:03:31,319 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: What do you got for me, Vig Graham. 67 00:03:32,719 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 4: Arizona State up six nothing on Texas Tech close to 68 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:38,919 the end of the second course, seven minutes. 69 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: Just the mic up in front of you a little 70 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,319 bit there, buddy, six. 71 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 4: Nothing Arizona State in the second quarter with just seven 72 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:46,840 minutes left. 73 00:03:47,039 --> 00:03:49,719 Speaker 3: There you go, Well, maybe ASU will cause a little 74 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,520 chaos in the Big twelve. 75 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: Look, there's gonna be cannibalism everywhere. 76 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,319 Speaker 3: There's more parody in college football than there's ever been, 77 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,719 and I do believe that can be attributed to the 78 00:03:58,759 --> 00:04:00,000 free market. 79 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,479 Speaker 1: The il, the transfer portal. 80 00:04:02,439 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: You know, yeah, there is an element of like you know, 81 00:04:06,879 --> 00:04:09,719 the upper restaurant that are paying more than any other 82 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,800 schools in Texas Tech has stated they they paid a 83 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,159 lot this season. So if ASU is able to knock 84 00:04:15,199 --> 00:04:19,600 him off, that will be a goliath being slain by 85 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,879 a David And who better to talk about David and 86 00:04:21,879 --> 00:04:25,360 Goliath than pastor to do we Gray? 87 00:04:25,399 --> 00:04:27,399 Speaker 1: We got de week ray on the Life Former BYU Great. 88 00:04:27,439 --> 00:04:29,480 Do we how you live in? Man? 89 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: I am doing well. Let me tell you what you 90 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,600 are a professional the way you brought that in like 91 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,639 David and Goliath and then have a pastor on Dude, 92 00:04:37,759 --> 00:04:39,040 you should do this for a living. 93 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: Hey, it's just. 94 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: A side hustle right now, but you know, maybe one 95 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:48,800 day it'll be the full fledged occupation for me. But 96 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,319 do we love and appreciate you? Nobody does it better 97 00:04:52,319 --> 00:04:54,480 than you. I love hearing to you, hearing your sermons, 98 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,040 love hearing you talk ball, and I want to. 99 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: Obviously get keys to the game. 100 00:04:58,319 --> 00:05:02,519 Speaker 3: But let's describe for koup Nation what this rivalry game 101 00:05:02,639 --> 00:05:04,600 meant to you when you were playing in it. 102 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so, I'm originally from San Antonio, Texas, 103 00:05:08,199 --> 00:05:10,920 and so my first year I didn't I didn't really 104 00:05:10,959 --> 00:05:13,680 know what was happening. But by my sophomore year, I 105 00:05:13,759 --> 00:05:17,199 knew fully what was happening. We were we were up 106 00:05:17,319 --> 00:05:20,720 at Utah Plan and like a five year old kid 107 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,360 gave me the finger and I was like, man, these 108 00:05:23,399 --> 00:05:28,120 people in Utah. I take this holy war very very seriously. Now, 109 00:05:28,199 --> 00:05:30,399 when I was there the first year we played and 110 00:05:30,519 --> 00:05:33,600 we dropped seventy on them, I was four and zero 111 00:05:33,639 --> 00:05:37,360 against them. But you know now that I get to 112 00:05:37,399 --> 00:05:41,160 look back, so so you know, I love all people, 113 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,000 but I don't like the University of Utah. I want 114 00:05:44,079 --> 00:05:47,199 us to beat them, and I want us to beat 115 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,600 them back. Now, the reality is Utah is a very 116 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,920 very good team. Their offensive line, their defensive line has 117 00:05:56,959 --> 00:06:00,680 a number of NFL players. They are big, they're physical, 118 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,000 they're well coached on defense. Their line backers are incredible. 119 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,279 Smith Snowden, the young man that I'm a big fan of, 120 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,959 is a great corner, great nickel guy, great return guy. 121 00:06:13,959 --> 00:06:17,399 On offense, they've got a dual threat quarterback. They run physically, 122 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,360 they can hurt you in the passing game. And so 123 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:26,000 this is gonna require one of those special historic moments 124 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,759 where for the freshman quarterback, we make plays we're not 125 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,720 supposed to make, we have hustle plays we're not supposed 126 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:38,759 to make, and just be incredibly physically physical. When Dan 127 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,800 Pierre runs the ball, every time he runs, he has 128 00:06:41,879 --> 00:06:46,160 to pay attacks. He has to pay attacks, and by 129 00:06:46,199 --> 00:06:49,360 the third quarter, he's ready to come out because he's 130 00:06:49,399 --> 00:06:52,480 been beat up, and so it's gonna require one of 131 00:06:52,519 --> 00:06:53,959 those types of games. 132 00:06:55,319 --> 00:06:58,199 Speaker 3: This game in particular, this rival game in particular, maybe 133 00:06:58,319 --> 00:07:02,000 the most most pivotal. Why would that be, Well, they're 134 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,360 in the same conference. This is only the fourth time 135 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,399 in Holy War history where both teams are ranked. This 136 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,240 has conference championship implications. But not only that, this may 137 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,360 have CFP birth implication as well. With a new expanded, 138 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:21,199 expanded playoff. What does that mean for BYU? In furthermore, 139 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,480 Kyle Whittingham's on the brink of retirement. If he takes 140 00:07:24,839 --> 00:07:29,839 three straight losses to BYU on his way to retirement, 141 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,079 that is impactful to one's legacy in my opinion. 142 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I want to I want to give 143 00:07:36,439 --> 00:07:40,399 Kyle his flowers. Of course, he's a BYU guy, lavelle guys, 144 00:07:40,439 --> 00:07:43,399 so I want to give him his flowers. He learned 145 00:07:43,399 --> 00:07:47,759 from Urban Meyer, he learned from coach Edwards, Utah phenomenal program. 146 00:07:47,839 --> 00:07:50,120 They have done great things. And I don't think if 147 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,160 he loses three in a row to BYU that it 148 00:07:52,199 --> 00:07:54,279 affects his legacy. Maybe in a short term, but in 149 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,519 long term he took that team to the Pac ten 150 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:02,160 at the time and had a credible run. I do 151 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,120 believe there's more pressure on Utah to win the game 152 00:08:06,399 --> 00:08:10,000 than BYU. And as a result of that early on, 153 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,360 that may create some turnovers for Utah, maybe a bad pass, 154 00:08:14,439 --> 00:08:17,920 maybe a messed up snap, maybe a RPO handoff the 155 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,560 falls on the ground. And so I do think they 156 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,560 have more pressure because you know, they're three and a 157 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,680 half point favorites on the road, So that could play 158 00:08:26,759 --> 00:08:31,319 into BYU's hands. And also it could put a chip 159 00:08:31,399 --> 00:08:34,360 on their shoulders and say, hey, they're coming into our house. 160 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,440 We're six and oho, we've beaten them two times in 161 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,879 a row and we're underdogs. That gives you incredible motivation. 162 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,399 You hit harder, you run faster, you have more endurance, 163 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,960 Your intensity allows you to execute more. 164 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great breakdown, And I do think that 165 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,519 there is a little bit more of a sense of 166 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,799 urgency and more pressure on the University of Utah to 167 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,840 win this game. And you under how that will play 168 00:09:01,879 --> 00:09:07,279 out schematically, personnel allocation wise, implementation wise. Under the lights 169 00:09:07,279 --> 00:09:10,519 of leavel BYU's been really good at home as well 170 00:09:10,519 --> 00:09:14,039 as in night games. They call BYU the Vampire Cougars, 171 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:19,000 And I don't know, you know objectively what that means. Like, 172 00:09:19,039 --> 00:09:20,720 I don't know why b Way you play so well 173 00:09:20,759 --> 00:09:23,279 at night Any idea on that. I mean, you used 174 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,000 to playing the day games when you guys were dominant. 175 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,320 Any idea why b Way you play so well under 176 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:28,279 the lights of level in. 177 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:28,879 Speaker 1: The night games. 178 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: Well, I think the first thing, it starts with the rock. 179 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,200 I mean, the student session section is ridiculous. I think 180 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,600 all eyes are on BYU. I think Kline does a 181 00:09:39,639 --> 00:09:44,320 great job of getting his team prepared to play. And 182 00:09:45,039 --> 00:09:47,879 there's just something special about Lavelle at work stadium at 183 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:53,840 night with the rock, with the intensity the home BYU's 184 00:09:53,919 --> 00:09:57,879 home crowd is six points right off the gate. And 185 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,559 if they can get b to a lead going in 186 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:06,799 a halftime because of creating false starts and illegal procedures 187 00:10:06,799 --> 00:10:09,440 and those types of things, that is they are the 188 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:10,080 twelfth Man. 189 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,879 Speaker 3: Literally, Well, they do great work, there's no doubt about it. 190 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,440 Like the disruption we've seen over the years, especially in 191 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,720 the modern era. Like I don't know how loud Lavelle 192 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,279 was when you were playing, right, Like I wasn't there. 193 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:25,919 I didn't get to experience that I felt like it 194 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:27,919 was pretty loud when I was playing, But I. 195 00:10:27,879 --> 00:10:31,039 Speaker 1: Feel like BYU's fan base has taken. 196 00:10:30,759 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 3: It to the next level with their investment just vocally 197 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,399 in the game right where they understand, hey, I can 198 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,080 make an impact, I can determine wins and losses by 199 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,519 being a fan in the stadium. 200 00:10:45,519 --> 00:10:46,879 Speaker 1: Would you agree with that assessment? 201 00:10:47,799 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 2: I would agree one percent. I've played in front of 202 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,559 some incredible crowds, but what's happening now is legendary. I 203 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:59,240 think that the BYU crowd, the BYU football home experience 204 00:11:00,159 --> 00:11:03,360 putting college football on notice. Not only is the landscape 205 00:11:03,879 --> 00:11:07,879 the most pristine and beautiful, not only do fans not 206 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,279 get drunk in the stands and go crazy, but they recognize, hey, man, 207 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,039 we are six points right off the bat, and so 208 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,039 this is what I think is gonna happen to that Ben. 209 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,799 I think coach Whittingham is telling his players, listen, BYU 210 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,120 doesn't have the talent we have. They're not as tough 211 00:11:25,159 --> 00:11:27,399 as we are. I think they're gonna line up in 212 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,799 basic football and say we're gonna run the ball down 213 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,200 your throat, and then on defense, I think what they're 214 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,559 gonna do is say, hey, we're gonna rush five play 215 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,840 man to man because your guys can't beat us, and 216 00:11:39,919 --> 00:11:43,559 we're gonna make Bear win the game throwing the ball. 217 00:11:43,799 --> 00:11:45,360 And this is what I think is gonna take place. 218 00:11:45,399 --> 00:11:48,320 I think there's gonna be several plays in which that 219 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:53,080 takes place. Bears gonna break the break the pocket, break 220 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,799 a tackle, and get twenty something plus yards. I wouldn't 221 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,519 be surprised if he ran for eighty and through for two. 222 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,399 And on defense, we have to create three turnovers. We 223 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,840 need a couple of short fields to get ahead of 224 00:12:05,879 --> 00:12:09,000 them and make Utah one dimensional. And if we do that, 225 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,440 we got a shot to win. 226 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,879 Speaker 3: I love those keys to the game from Dewey Gray 227 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,240 pastor Gray here on ESPN the Fan, Get your preap, 228 00:12:16,279 --> 00:12:19,200 Get you ready for this Holy War, the ninety seventh 229 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,799 Holy War, in this illustrious robbery history. 230 00:12:22,879 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: You mentioned those are your keys to the game. 231 00:12:24,639 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 3: Here, Dewey, A couple last things before we let you go, though, 232 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:33,000 What if you liked about this BYU football team this year? 233 00:12:33,039 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: What stands out to you? 234 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 3: Right, you're a guy that loves the game of ball, Right, 235 00:12:37,639 --> 00:12:40,559 you love football, good high level football. What do you 236 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,600 like about this BAU football team this year. 237 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: Well, on defense, I like the fact that they run 238 00:12:46,039 --> 00:12:50,679 an NFL style defense. I like the intellectual brutality. I 239 00:12:50,799 --> 00:12:54,399 like the team chemistry on offense. I like the way 240 00:12:54,519 --> 00:12:57,720 the team has come around the freshman quarterback. He is 241 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:02,840 not a normal freshman to back. He has the it factor. 242 00:13:02,879 --> 00:13:05,200 I'm not sure what the it factor is, but when 243 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,320 you see it, you know someone has it. He has 244 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,039 the it factor. And tonight is going to be the 245 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,919 biggest challenge of all. Will the lineman put a little 246 00:13:13,919 --> 00:13:16,200 bit more into blocking, Will the running backs run a 247 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,679 little bit harder, Will the receivers run a little bit more? 248 00:13:18,759 --> 00:13:21,440 Chris routs? And then when the game is on the line, 249 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,320 what is the eighteen year old freshman gonna do? Is 250 00:13:24,399 --> 00:13:28,120 the grizzly bear going to roar? I'm looking forward to 251 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,120 him to roar. I haven't wanted to play in the 252 00:13:30,159 --> 00:13:32,759 football game in about thirty years. Ben. If I was 253 00:13:32,799 --> 00:13:35,080 in my twenties, i'd suit up and I would wreck 254 00:13:35,159 --> 00:13:37,159 you tell like I used to back in the day. 255 00:13:37,159 --> 00:13:38,159 And they know all about that. 256 00:13:39,039 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 5: They know do Gray, They know Dewey Gray, those dudes 257 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,519 that had to go head to head with you, They 258 00:13:45,639 --> 00:13:50,559 know what Pastor Gray, what Dewey Gray does on the Gridiron. 259 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 3: My guy, you just you were slaying Golias all day, 260 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:59,399 every day as a modern day David in my opinion, 261 00:13:59,879 --> 00:14:04,639 and you continue to pontificate on your platform from your 262 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,879 podium as the pastor of the Transformation Church. Real quick, 263 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,679 give us an update on Transformation Church. What you guys 264 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:12,279 are doing over. 265 00:14:12,159 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: There, Hey, Transformation Church is great. We've baptized two hundred 266 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,320 and thirty three people a couple of weeks ago at 267 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,840 a local lake. Our free grocery store serves about five 268 00:14:22,919 --> 00:14:27,039 hundred people per month. We're helping to start churches all 269 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,240 over Europe. And we've also in the last three years 270 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,919 paid off thirty million dollars of medical debt for people 271 00:14:32,919 --> 00:14:36,600 in the Carolina's in need. And man is a it 272 00:14:36,679 --> 00:14:38,080 is a sweet, sweet season. 273 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:40,639 Speaker 1: Well you know to that point. 274 00:14:40,759 --> 00:14:43,879 Speaker 3: I mean, I've had these discussions internally with friends, with 275 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:49,000 family members, and I feel like there is a resurgence. 276 00:14:49,279 --> 00:14:51,840 And we've talked about this on the show. Even with 277 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,960 what's happening in Africa, Christianity, people are coming under Christ. 278 00:14:56,039 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: They see kind of the signs of the times. They're 279 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,399 feeling these. 280 00:14:59,279 --> 00:15:02,039 Speaker 3: Signs at the time, and and they're coming under Christ. 281 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,519 Speaker 1: And I think you're seeing that they're at the Transformation Church. 282 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,399 Speaker 2: Yes, we have seen in the last fifteen years eight 283 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,799 thousand people come to Christ through our ministry, and so 284 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,879 God has been moving powerfully. And I think coming out 285 00:15:17,879 --> 00:15:22,480 of COVID also, I think as people see the other 286 00:15:22,639 --> 00:15:26,559 despair of how divided politics is, how much hate there 287 00:15:26,639 --> 00:15:29,799 is in the world. I think led by young people, 288 00:15:30,799 --> 00:15:33,320 they've seen enough and they're they're saying, I want to 289 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,840 know Jesus. I want to know his love, I want 290 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,879 to know his grace. I want to make an impact 291 00:15:37,879 --> 00:15:42,399 in the world with kindness and love and generosity. And 292 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:43,000 it's happening. 293 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:44,679 Speaker 1: I love it. 294 00:15:44,759 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: Man, as Dewey says, as Patrick Gray says, worship the lamb, 295 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,440 not the donkey or the elephant. I love you, Yes, 296 00:15:51,559 --> 00:15:54,000 I appreciate you do we Gray, ladies and gentlemen, thanks 297 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,960 for hopping on for a special additional rivalry edition of 298 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,000 Cougar Sports. 299 00:16:01,799 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: There you go. 300 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,639 Speaker 3: That's Dewy Gray, Ladies and gentlemen. We'll take a brief 301 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,720 time out. We'll be back though. We're live from the 302 00:16:07,799 --> 00:16:11,240 Swig just south of LaBelle Edwards Stadium. Would love to 303 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,320 see you. Come on buy Salo, talk some ball with us, 304 00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:17,519 and get yourself some Royal Army brand gear, the best 305 00:16:17,519 --> 00:16:19,679 bau Lecens apparel in the business. 306 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: Come on buy and get some delicious pulled pork as well. 307 00:16:23,679 --> 00:16:27,559 Speaker 3: Rectech is here feeding all you Cougar fans showing up, 308 00:16:27,919 --> 00:16:31,639 showing out to this special edition, this Holy War edition 309 00:16:31,679 --> 00:16:33,279 of Cougar Sports. 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They do fantastic work. 343 00:17:56,039 --> 00:17:58,400 We're efforting to get Darnell Dixon doubed on the line. 344 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,960 He give us his keys to the game and score predictions. 345 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,200 But let me break down for you what uh what's 346 00:18:04,279 --> 00:18:06,759 cooking with the cougars right now? As we get your 347 00:18:06,759 --> 00:18:10,359 prep getting ready for this Holy war. Six pm kickoff 348 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:11,839 obviously it's gonna be on Fox. 349 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: Right. 350 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,599 Speaker 3: This is a game in which BYU is not favored in. 351 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,400 I am surprised that that Vegas went that way, but 352 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,279 it is what it is there in the betting game. 353 00:18:19,519 --> 00:18:24,279 They aren't in the win loss prediction game. That's not 354 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:24,920 what they do. 355 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: UH. 356 00:18:25,599 --> 00:18:31,799 Speaker 3: But UH BYU ESPN analytics, UH, they they slightly favored 357 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:37,839 BYUH in this game. Fifty chance of victory per ESBN Analytics. 358 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: Kyle Whittingham is eleven and five in this UH. 359 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,799 Speaker 3: This robbery game since taking over his head coach in 360 00:18:43,799 --> 00:18:47,160 two thousand and five. Killani is two and four in 361 00:18:47,319 --> 00:18:50,519 the robbery game. Over under set at forty nine and 362 00:18:50,559 --> 00:18:53,680 a half. We chatted with Gurney yesterday. G Man says, 363 00:18:53,759 --> 00:18:55,440 take the under, take. 364 00:18:55,559 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: The under if you are a betting man. Into report 365 00:18:58,759 --> 00:18:59,079 is out. 366 00:18:59,319 --> 00:19:03,319 Speaker 3: Marcus mcainy, Jojo Phillips, h Bryan Strather, Scioni Mola, Tommy 367 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,440 Prassis all out this game right, and the mooney is 368 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,279 doubtful and Anissi per Sale defensive tackle is probable on 369 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:14,680 the Utah side. Key contributors in the secondary Rabbit Avans Evans, 370 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,000 excuse me, Nate Ritchie, as well as Josh Sofferin. Three 371 00:19:18,039 --> 00:19:20,799 safeties are out in this game. Wide receiver Taitri and 372 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:26,680 Zipper is out as well. Dn Paul Fitzgerald, linebacker Grady Moreco, 373 00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:31,559 and offensive lineman Isaiah Garcia all out this game for 374 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,200 the Youths. So BYU is on a two game winning 375 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,319 streak right now, beating the Utes twenty six to seventeen 376 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,400 in provo in twenty twenty one and then last year 377 00:19:41,839 --> 00:19:45,680 twenty two to twenty one at Rice Ecle Stadium. Will 378 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,759 Ferron kicked a forty four yard field goal to win 379 00:19:47,799 --> 00:19:50,880 it in the final seconds on that final drive. What 380 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,359 a glorious game that was, and it was It led 381 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,200 to a bit of a controversy with Mark Harland going 382 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,839 to the podium and complaining about being a part of 383 00:20:00,839 --> 00:20:04,079 the Big twelve, and then he received a ft FT 384 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,599 fine of you know, I don't know how much money 385 00:20:07,599 --> 00:20:13,200 he was one hundred thousand dollars possibly, but crazy times 386 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,680 in this rivalry game, Red versus Blue over forty miles apart, 387 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,880 only forty miles apart, and can't can't wait to see what. 388 00:20:21,839 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: This rivalry game is going to contribute to the lore. 389 00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 3: Andrew Peterson, you're in my ear. What do we got? 390 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:35,200 We got Darnell on the line. We'll get him here 391 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,920 on the line. Here momentarily, I have shot. I also 392 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,880 have Sean Walker by my side of KSL dot com. Sean, 393 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,839 how do you see this game playing out tonight under 394 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,000 the lights of levelle oh Man. 395 00:20:46,039 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 7: I was just enjoying being a thoughtful listener to this 396 00:20:48,039 --> 00:20:49,960 fine here program, Ben, So thanks for bringing me on. 397 00:20:50,799 --> 00:20:51,799 Speaker 1: Really do appreciate it. 398 00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 7: I love that you bring up both the ESPNFPI the 399 00:20:55,200 --> 00:21:00,240 fifty in favor of BYU versus the Vegas bread minus. 400 00:21:00,279 --> 00:21:00,839 Speaker 1: We're gonna have. 401 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,279 Speaker 7: Points in favor of Utah because that somewhere between those 402 00:21:04,279 --> 00:21:06,599 two dichotomies is where I think this game is going 403 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,400 to wind up. It's gonna be a single. There's a game, 404 00:21:08,599 --> 00:21:11,400 probably a one possession game, probably maybe even a field 405 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,119 goal game, I think very likely, And really flip a 406 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,240 coin as to who as to who wins this one. 407 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,839 Speaker 1: These two teams are so similar, like they. 408 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 7: Are almost mirror images of each other right now, both 409 00:21:25,039 --> 00:21:27,119 built around a really strong run game. One has a 410 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,400 slightly better offensive line. One probably has a slightly better tailback, 411 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,359 if you will. Quarterbacks are both first year playing their 412 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,960 first year in at their current schools, first year in 413 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,039 this rivalry game, both laying on their defenses very heavily. 414 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,640 Like these two teams are so similar that I agree 415 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,119 with Brandon Gurney take the under. I also see this 416 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,640 being very much a field goal. 417 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: Type of game. Let's get out to the hotline. 418 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,759 Speaker 3: Welcome in Darnell Dixon the Daily Heraldean for a little 419 00:21:52,799 --> 00:21:56,359 Cougar beat and he's gonna provide some insight into this 420 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:57,039 rivalry game. 421 00:21:57,079 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: Darnell, how you living. 422 00:22:00,079 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 6: And I'm living and getting ready to head on over 423 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:05,960 to the stadium for what I hope is another classic 424 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,359 BYU Utah game. Why not? 425 00:22:08,519 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 3: What do you recall about that? I mean you you've 426 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,319 been covering the kop for a long time. You were 427 00:22:13,519 --> 00:22:16,039 a student once upon a time here in Provo. 428 00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: How would you describe the rivalry? What do you remember 429 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,079 about growing up in the rivalry? 430 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,759 Speaker 6: Well, I didn't really grow up in the rivalry because 431 00:22:24,759 --> 00:22:27,599 I grew up in Oregon and I was familiar with BYU. 432 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,880 But obviously at that point, way back in the olden days, 433 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,400 I didn't get cable TV in my house, never had it. 434 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,200 I had some friends in town who had it. First BYU. 435 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,160 Game I ended up seeing was an ABC Classic against 436 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,200 San Diego State on a Saturday afternoon where BYU won 437 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,200 by like sixty points and San Diego Chicken was entertaining 438 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,319 everyone by by carrying the ball. But I didn't really 439 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,680 get a look at the by Utai rivalry until I 440 00:22:53,759 --> 00:22:57,920 came here to BYU, And at that point, the Cougars 441 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,960 were pretty much ruling the roost and had won a 442 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,160 bunch of games in a row and kind of dominated 443 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,839 the rivalry. And we've seen over the years how that's 444 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,319 kind of changed, gone back and forth, and right now 445 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,759 DYU has a couple of game edge and the Utah 446 00:23:11,799 --> 00:23:14,400 on once since twenty nineteen, they haven't played each other 447 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,599 every year. But the thing I'm most grateful for, and 448 00:23:17,839 --> 00:23:20,599 you know, I talked to Riley Jensen, our good, good 449 00:23:20,599 --> 00:23:23,119 friend of the program this week about the story I 450 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,640 was working on about mental health during by Utah weekend. 451 00:23:27,319 --> 00:23:29,519 He said, you know, we should just be really glad 452 00:23:29,519 --> 00:23:31,480 that we still have this rivalry. And you know how 453 00:23:31,519 --> 00:23:33,039 much of an old school guy I am when it 454 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:36,680 comes to college football, and I'm just glad the Cougars 455 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,759 and youth are back on schedule to play each other 456 00:23:38,799 --> 00:23:42,599 every year. It is what college football should be all about. 457 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,440 And so I'm excited for the opportunity to cover another 458 00:23:46,519 --> 00:23:49,759 Yu Utah game that invariably goes down to the end 459 00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:52,240 of the game, somebody makes a play here or there, 460 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,200 and we end up talking about it for another year. 461 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, the national pundit's chiming in on this particular robber 462 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,079 game this year day Fortnoy at Big New Kickoff picking 463 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,160 the Utes, saying Vegas knows all Vegas has sold itself 464 00:24:06,319 --> 00:24:09,279 to the devil and they are picking Utah. 465 00:24:09,279 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: Therefore he will pick Utah. 466 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,279 Speaker 3: Yet game Day Game Day Crew Desmond Howard says, BYU, 467 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:21,279 Nick saban Utah, Pat mcv BYU. Jelly Roll picked BYU 468 00:24:21,319 --> 00:24:24,319 in then Kirk Heursery picks b Yu. I don't know 469 00:24:24,319 --> 00:24:26,400 if it's a good sign or a bad sign that 470 00:24:26,519 --> 00:24:31,559 the national media is split on this particular rivalry game. 471 00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 6: Well, I was reading a story about Fortnoy. Apparently when 472 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,759 he was just out of college he lost like forty 473 00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:41,400 thousand dollars betting on sports. So I don't know if 474 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,200 I take his line with lack of Vegas, but I 475 00:24:45,839 --> 00:24:49,079 feel like, you know the national media yet why this 476 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,559 is such a big rivalry. In our experience, we know 477 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,039 whether Comb or Away doesn't really have that big of 478 00:24:56,079 --> 00:24:58,920 an inspect I don't think on the game, it's just 479 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,519 a matter of who's going to play the clean the 480 00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:02,079 ball and who's going to make a play when it 481 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,160 needs to be made. And so far this season, Bay 482 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,039 He's been able to do that. Past few games have 483 00:25:07,079 --> 00:25:10,119 been closer than EYU fans would have liked, but the 484 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,680 Cougars figure out a way to win it and make 485 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,279 the plays, and so I expect today to be a 486 00:25:14,319 --> 00:25:17,079 similar type situation. I think utuahd a pretty good football team. 487 00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:19,640 When they lost to Texas Tech early in the season, 488 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,119 I think that that was a blow for them, and 489 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,359 I think the fans that followed BUYU were thinking, oh, 490 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,759 Utah's really beatable, and then Utah has been really good 491 00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:32,279 since then. So I think that anybody who picks Utah 492 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,039 has seen how they've played the last several games, and 493 00:25:35,079 --> 00:25:37,039 then when they pick BYU, they think it's a home 494 00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:38,799 a little bit of a homefield advantage, and the Cougars 495 00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:40,960 have found a way to win certain games. So I'm 496 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,759 not surprised to see them a little bit split when 497 00:25:42,759 --> 00:25:45,079 it comes to the national media and this rivalry. 498 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,039 Speaker 3: How do you see this game playing out tonight outder 499 00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:49,119 the lights of Lavelle double d. 500 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know. One of the things that popped into 501 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,240 my mind the other day was nine to nothing and 502 00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:57,240 Welfare and kicks three field goals. But I don't think 503 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,000 that's what's going to happen. I feel like Byu needs 504 00:26:01,039 --> 00:26:05,759 to force Devin Dampier to beat them over the top 505 00:26:05,799 --> 00:26:08,519 with some longer throws. If the Cougars can slow down 506 00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:10,599 the running game for Utah, and that's the big chort. 507 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,440 Utah has been running the ball really well and their 508 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,440 offensive line is very highly regarded. If by is helping 509 00:26:16,519 --> 00:26:18,279 up a defense and they can slow down the run 510 00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:21,119 game and force some second, third and longs, which pretty 511 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,759 much is every game. But I think that might be 512 00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:24,039 an a key in this one. 513 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:25,079 Speaker 8: And another thing. 514 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,559 Speaker 6: That's happened in the last couple of games is the 515 00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:29,720 Cougar's turn the ball over and they need to limit 516 00:26:29,759 --> 00:26:33,839 the amount of turnovers. And it seems like Utah manages 517 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,519 to get the Cougars to turn the ball over a 518 00:26:35,559 --> 00:26:38,480 couple of times and make some key mistakes in games. 519 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,720 And if you go get last year's game BYU did 520 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,039 not play well in the first half at all and 521 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,240 came back with a better second half. Of course, the 522 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,960 kick return for testdown help, but it's it's just with 523 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,519 this game, we just don't know what We don't know 524 00:26:52,599 --> 00:26:55,799 until we see what happens in the first half and 525 00:26:55,799 --> 00:26:57,519 and what happens for the end of the game. So 526 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,680 that's kind of my thought process as I head over there. 527 00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 3: What did you make of at Big Noon Kickoff, all 528 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,400 the BYU fans uh heaping booze all over Urban Meyer 529 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,799 and then furthermore, the the sign of the day Elder Oaks, 530 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,599 President Oaks, the profits here in Red Lady, Now the 531 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,559 Tour Jesus Christ of Latter j is getting aied a 532 00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:27,480 bit with a U's down sign he got was it, Tyler? 533 00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:29,200 I don't know who was the b YU fan? Was 534 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,759 he got a five hundred dollars UH check for issuing that. 535 00:27:34,759 --> 00:27:38,880 That's that sign for all of the Cougar football in 536 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,720 college football world to behold. 537 00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:42,519 Speaker 1: Give me your thoughts. 538 00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 6: Well, I feel like both b y U and Utah 539 00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:50,160 fans were really appreciative of Big Noon Monday or Big 540 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:55,559 Neon Saturday coming and the kickoff show. And I read 541 00:27:55,599 --> 00:27:57,559 somewhere earlier in the week that Utah was going to 542 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,759 try to take it over and bring four hundred of 543 00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:03,920 folks down to kind of see if they could dround 544 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,400 out the Cougars. And BYU love staffing the national media here. 545 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,640 They love being able to take that national spotlight, and 546 00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:14,000 it's just part of this great rivalry when you put 547 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,160 it together and you let people know. I mean, I 548 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,119 grew up watching Ohio State, Michigan, and USC Notre Dame 549 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,359 in Florida, Florida State, and those were all really good rivalries. 550 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,920 But I started thinking this week, I don't follow those 551 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,319 teams as closely as I followed By, obviously because it's 552 00:28:28,319 --> 00:28:30,400 my job. But I can't imagine there's a lot of 553 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,599 guys on the Ohio State staff that originally coached in Michigan, 554 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,240 for a lot of players that played in Michigan and 555 00:28:36,319 --> 00:28:39,160 transferred to Oho State. You just have this really interesting, 556 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,039 unique atmosphere for By and Utah because it's so integrated 557 00:28:43,079 --> 00:28:45,680 within itself and the coaching staff and the players and 558 00:28:46,319 --> 00:28:49,200 so all this hooplah. I'm glad it's six o'clock game. 559 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,200 I don't know if I'd wait another couple hours to 560 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,000 get this one going. 561 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, Darnell, it's interesting that you bring up the hashtag 562 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,160 you take over. I think they were calling it because 563 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,920 I was down here for a big kick off early 564 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,480 this morning, And don't get a twisted like there were 565 00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:05,880 a lot of Utah fans that most of them probably 566 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,160 made the drive forty minutes south on I fifteen to 567 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,640 get here nice and early. They were scrolling in a 568 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,000 lot of them were kind of scrolling in with me 569 00:29:13,079 --> 00:29:16,200 right around five thirty six am, two hours before the 570 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,640 broadcast started, and they met a big group of BYU 571 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,160 fans and mostly students probably that were kind of camping overnight. 572 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,039 But I agree with you, like it didn't look like 573 00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:29,200 as much of a takeover. I've been hearing all of 574 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,319 these things, and you've been around this rivalry long enough 575 00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:34,599 to know that, Like, even when you think you have 576 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,559 home field advantage, you don't always have as much home 577 00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:40,319 field as advantage as you might believe. There was a 578 00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:42,839 lot of blue at Rice Cycle Stadium last year. There's 579 00:29:43,319 --> 00:29:44,880 a good chance there's gonna be a lot of red 580 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,279 down here at LS this year. How big of an 581 00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:51,079 impact do you think that plays into this one? Or 582 00:29:51,359 --> 00:29:53,880 are these two teams that have been. Are we to 583 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,319 the point of the season where these two teams have 584 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,319 been on the road, they've seen hustle crowds enough where 585 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,279 maybe they can block that out a little bit better 586 00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:00,880 than you know, guys like you and I like to 587 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,160 talk about over the radio. 588 00:30:03,759 --> 00:30:06,079 Speaker 6: I think the home field advantage is negated a little 589 00:30:06,079 --> 00:30:08,920 bit by the fact that this wave of emotion that 590 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,559 goes to the stadium really works both ways. And not 591 00:30:12,599 --> 00:30:15,680 only are the BYU fans cheering really loudly when something 592 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,920 good happens, but they're rolling their eyes and throwing their 593 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,200 hands on their head when something back. So it's just 594 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,640 this wave of emotion that goes through the whole stadium, 595 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,240 and certainly the Utah fans that fill that corner are 596 00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:33,079 going to provide some of that. But it's just it 597 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,640 just seems like the home field advantage in this rivalry 598 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,480 is not as big a deal as it could be. 599 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,240 And some of it's the location and some of it 600 00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:41,839 is just there's going to be a lot of Utah 601 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,559 fans that will make sure that their their players know 602 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,799 they're there and when they make a good play, that'll 603 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,400 get them out of their seats as well. 604 00:31:05,559 --> 00:32:02,119 Speaker 8: M I lost me too, okays. 605 00:32:12,079 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back Cougar Sports. 606 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 3: One of three nine ninety eight point three ESPN the 607 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,839 Fan I've met Prittal broadcasting from our South Swig location 608 00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:22,200 just just south of Level over in stadium, Stop by slow. 609 00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:24,279 Speaker 1: Our Royal Army Brand is in attendance. 610 00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:27,559 Speaker 3: We got some great BYU lights apparel created by fans 611 00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:29,480 fore fans State loyal to the Royal Repping. Why the 612 00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:31,160 Right Way port to sell your Bway lights to apparel, 613 00:32:31,319 --> 00:32:34,279 Royal Army Brand dot com. Shout out also to Banterwealth, 614 00:32:34,279 --> 00:32:38,240 banterwellth dot com and our Ultimate Tailgator broadcasting from the 615 00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:41,880 Swig location. We got some college football games behind us. 616 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,319 We do want to get like a college football update 617 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,680 here momentarily all the scores coming out of the college 618 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,200 football world. I don't know if ap if you got 619 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,319 an update for me or not taking a look at 620 00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:57,039 all the scores coming across the college football ticker. Let's 621 00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:00,279 get that here momentarily as well. But Darnell Dixon still 622 00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:03,319 on the line, Double D. Sorry about the technical difficulties, doubleed. 623 00:33:03,359 --> 00:33:06,599 Speaker 6: How you live it, buddy, living a will probably some 624 00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:10,279 you fan messing with the radio season, right ah? 625 00:33:10,359 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 3: Right man, Yeah, we got you fans here locally disrupting 626 00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:18,000 our connectivity. They don't want truth being bestowed upon all 627 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,359 of Cougar Nation. No sands or butts about this, but 628 00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:23,200 give us a little score prediction. 629 00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: How do you see this. 630 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 3: Game playing out under the lights of Levelle tonight six 631 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,359 pm kickoff? Yeah. 632 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 6: I think both teams are really well established as far 633 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,720 as a running attack, and probably comes down to who 634 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,240 can slow down the other team. B Wa, you've been 635 00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:40,799 able to get good yardage from LG. Martin he was 636 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,039 the big twelfth player Offensive Player of the Year of 637 00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:47,720 the week rather after his one hundred and sixty plus 638 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,480 performance last week, and Baron Bachmeier as that plus one 639 00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:53,559 kind of running part of the game. We got to 640 00:33:53,559 --> 00:33:55,920 account for him and hopefully that opens up some other 641 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,200 things for the Cougar offense. And you know, Devin dan 642 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,079 Pier has been putting up a lot of yards run 643 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,920 the ball at quarterback for Utah. So I think both 644 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,880 defensive lines are going to be challenged and I think 645 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,880 whoever is able to slow down the other team a 646 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,360 little bit more the running game might end up winning 647 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:11,719 that game. 648 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,119 Speaker 3: Well as far as health is concerned. For the most part, 649 00:34:16,119 --> 00:34:20,119 both teams are are fairly healthy. Out of the injury 650 00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:24,440 report that you've seen, which team has the competitive advantage 651 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,559 as far as health is concerned, I. 652 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 6: Guess you mentioned from what I've seen, obviously, Pileot Winningham 653 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,880 is keeping some of those minor injuries to himself or 654 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,719 ones that may or may not keep a player out. 655 00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:39,199 He decided that he doesn't need to provide a full 656 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,400 injury report. But as far as vous concerns, I think 657 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,360 that they're as healthy as they're going to get this 658 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,559 time of the year. And from what I've seen Raider 659 00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:50,599 Do Mooney won't play, but Jack Kelly will and that's 660 00:34:50,599 --> 00:34:52,440 a big deal. I think that Jack will make a 661 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,159 difference out there for the tutors. And so yeah, who 662 00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:59,960 knows by U in Utah. They they are very physical 663 00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:01,800 with each other. So this could be a game that 664 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,559 could put a toll on either team that could last 665 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,679 maybe more than just one or two games. 666 00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 3: If Kyle Withhiam doesn't get a win tonight at Lavelle 667 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,360 Edwards Stadium, does he come back in twenty twenty. 668 00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:19,199 Speaker 6: Six, I'm sure he'd be tempted. I mean, I feel 669 00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:23,159 like the way he's reacted to the media question this week, 670 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,760 a little bit, Henre. I think he's not happy with 671 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,760 not having beaten the Cougar since twenty nineteen, and it's 672 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,239 going to put that into his players to get out 673 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,599 and play well. And he would love to go out. 674 00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:39,079 They've already picked, you know, a coach and waiting for him, 675 00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:41,719 so he knows that the team will be taken care 676 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,000 of when he decides to leave, and that'll be something 677 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,159 Obviously he'll think more about the end of the season. 678 00:35:47,159 --> 00:35:49,719 But I certainly think that's a big deal, maybe a 679 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,360 bigger deal than normal for him to get a win 680 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,599 in this rivalry game tonight. 681 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 3: Twenty of the last twenty four BYU Utah matchups have 682 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,400 been decided by single digits. This is a very close, 683 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,119 very competitive rivalry game. I'm sure it will become that 684 00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:09,000 once again tonight. It'll be one for the ages, maybe 685 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,760 the biggest rivalry game in modern era history. Why because 686 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:18,679 of the implications of conference championship and maybe even CFP birth. 687 00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:22,199 Because both of these teams are ranked, both of them 688 00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:25,880 are in the same conference, would you conclude, I mean, 689 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,639 this was one of four games in the last you know, 690 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,519 thirty or forty years that both teams are ranked and 691 00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:35,440 have an opportunity to win either a conference championship and 692 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,519 now with the expanded playoff, they could get to a CFP. 693 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 6: Birth And more so than just the fact that both 694 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,159 teams are ranked, so that's happened before occasionally in this rivalry, 695 00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:50,039 what really accounts for to me, what the biggest thing 696 00:36:50,119 --> 00:36:53,320 is that these are both two Big twelve football teams 697 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,920 that have a chance to make the College Football Playoffs 698 00:36:56,599 --> 00:36:59,039 and they can earn it. I mean it doesn't have 699 00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:02,719 to be you know, when Utah was going undefeated when 700 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,440 they're playing in the Mountain West Conference, they had to 701 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,039 get voted in and they didn't have access like they 702 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,519 wanted and BYU have never had access until they joined 703 00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:13,199 the Big Twelve. That would make this even a more 704 00:37:13,519 --> 00:37:16,719 important game I think is that both teams have access 705 00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:19,480 if they win out, if they win the right games, 706 00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:21,840 they can get in. They don't have to wait around 707 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,719 and feel like they're they're not getting the the you 708 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,719 know what they deserve from you know, whatever entity is 709 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,480 deciding who goes where they can earn it on the field, 710 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,800 and this is a big game and and moving towards 711 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,960 that for either team. 712 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,280 Speaker 3: My guy double d Darnell Dixon nobody does it better 713 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,039 follow him on x at Darnell Wright's read all of 714 00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:48,760 his content at The Daily Herald. Darnell, we appreciate you 715 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,280 man as always, thanks for hopping on. 716 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,679 Speaker 6: All right, guys, we'll see it tonight. 717 00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 3: All right, we got a little college football update. We 718 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,800 got a score update by chance. Okay, let's go and 719 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,800 give it to us. What do you got, Cram, make 720 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,440 sure that mic is front of your mouth so you 721 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,320 can speak to all of kugarnation. 722 00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: Give me some updates on scores. All right. 723 00:38:06,519 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 4: We have the number one Ohio State buck guys up 724 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,000 twenty seven nothing in the third quarter. Just going into 725 00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:16,760 the fourth quarter, we have number three Indiana up twenty 726 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,920 eight ten on Michigan State in a big game that's 727 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,400 going on right now. We have the old miss Running 728 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,039 Rebels up thirty five twenty six on number six Georgia. 729 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,800 And then the big one in the big in the 730 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:34,119 Big twelve, we have Arizona State at halftime up nine 731 00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:38,159 to seven on the Texas Tech Red Raiders, uh Texas 732 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,880 A and up Texas A and m up seven to three. 733 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,039 And then in the Big twelve, we had some big games. 734 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: Uh, we had Let's see we had. 735 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 3: Let me give you an update on some Big Twelve scores. 736 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,760 Baylor TCU forty two to thirty six. That was a 737 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,760 final u U of a hey Houston. Houston ended up 738 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,639 edging out the Wildcats thirty one to twenty eight, UCF 739 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:09,840 forty five thirteen over the West Virginia Mountaineers. Those are 740 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,920 some of the news and notes coming out of the 741 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,079 Big Twelve in the college football world. Here on your 742 00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:17,559 Utah ESPN Readio network, We'll be back Cougarnation. We're gonna 743 00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:20,320 welcome in Tim mctire to the show, former BYU defensive 744 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,119 back to discuss this rivalry game, what. 745 00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:24,039 Speaker 1: It means to him and some of his keys to 746 00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:24,400 the game. 747 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,079 Speaker 3: We're live from LaBelle Edward Stadium, just south of Level 748 00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:30,360 Edwards Stadium. 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