WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.319 The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network. 2 00:00:03.399 --> 00:00:05.120 Hi, this is a Colin Macria. Whose line is it? 3 00:00:05.160 --> 00:00:08.359 Anyway you're listening to tech talk Radio. I don't know 4 00:00:08.400 --> 00:00:11.279 how it works. It's all magical stuff to me. 5 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:15.320 Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, 6 00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:18.039 I'm Shonda Weird, and I'm Justin Lemey. 7 00:00:18.079 --> 00:00:20.280 Welcome. Look at that we got Justin. But you've been 8 00:00:20.280 --> 00:00:23.440 gone for a while. How you doing, dude, I'm doing. 9 00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:27.039 I'm just I've been busy, man, I've been busy with work. 10 00:00:27.160 --> 00:00:30.760 And then, as I was mentioned in a pre show, man, 11 00:00:30.879 --> 00:00:33.560 I'm getting old. Man, I'm going to bed. I'm going 12 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:35.799 to bed by the time you guys start recording. But 13 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:38.560 now that we're on daily savings time, you know, it 14 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:40.359 actually helps me because I'm like, hey, I can do 15 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:41.799 this now, but no to bed. 16 00:00:42.119 --> 00:00:44.039 You know the number of times that I've missed the 17 00:00:44.039 --> 00:00:45.759 show because I've fallen asleep with my kids. 18 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:46.759 Oh, yes, happened. 19 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:50.719 I mean it happens. It happened one time when it 20 00:00:50.759 --> 00:00:53.600 was just you and me. I was sitting here, correct, 21 00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:54.240 where is he? 22 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:55.240 Where is he? 23 00:00:56.799 --> 00:00:59.520 I'm actually falling asleep at the microphone when I was 24 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:02.759 working at KLPX. I fell asleep at the microphone. I 25 00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:03.719 think I remember. 26 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:06.040 Hearing about that. That was quite We got quite a 27 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:07.280 bit of fodder for that one. 28 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:10.959 That was good. Yeah, you hear about that overnight guy. Yeah, 29 00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:12.959 Jonas had to call in and I was like, I 30 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:15.920 was like answering the phone, and I'm like, He's like like, 31 00:01:16.079 --> 00:01:17.879 first off, like why are you calling me so late? 32 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:19.120 And You're like, why are you sleeping? 33 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:21.480 This supposed to be on the air of one of 34 00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:24.599 the many stations that I work at, or have worked at. 35 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:25.640 I'll say it that way. 36 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:29.920 One day I was driving into record Yeah, not this show, 37 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:32.680 another show, and I noticed that the top of the 38 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:34.920 hour came by and I didn't hear the DJ on 39 00:01:34.959 --> 00:01:37.280 the air, and matter of fac it was twenty minutes 40 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:40.079 in my drive. I'd never heard the DJ once and 41 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:42.799 there was certain parts that that DJ had to do. 42 00:01:43.200 --> 00:01:46.319 So I called the boss and apparently she had forgot 43 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:48.599 to come in and her shift. 44 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:52.719 Was at two. This was at four. Oh my god. 45 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:56.640 They didn't realize it for two hours. Computer systems nowadays 46 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:58.840 do they just keep on just going right? Yeah. 47 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:03.000 Radio automation is interesting because if you're in the studio. Uh, 48 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:06.159 and like this show that we do here, and of 49 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:08.520 course my show that I do in the afternoon and 50 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:09.319 throughout the day, we. 51 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:10.159 Have live d days. 52 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:13.639 They're they're, they're in there, and you know, yes, you 53 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:15.319 could say, all right, I wanted to play the next 54 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:19.520 three songs without having to interact with them, but generally 55 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:23.120 you you just play each one. I mean, we're there live, 56 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:25.960 and it's rare these days unless. 57 00:02:25.719 --> 00:02:26.599 It's a morning show. 58 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:29.479 When I was working for one of the big network groups, 59 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:34.360 I could say Westwood One, I was on seventy stations, 60 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:36.639 and while is while I was working here as well, 61 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:39.400 seventy stations. I go home and I would record. And 62 00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:42.159 the thing is, you'd record two hours ahead. But if 63 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:45.919 something happened in that radio town, you know, whether it 64 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:48.800 was in you know, Florida or Pitty News. 65 00:02:48.879 --> 00:02:51.599 I was in Pittsburgh, it was in DC. I was everywhere. 66 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:54.680 But if something happened, how what am I gonna do? 67 00:02:54.759 --> 00:02:57.719 There's nothing you had. Everything had to be recorded an 68 00:02:57.719 --> 00:02:59.919 hour ahead of time. That's that's That's the one thing 69 00:02:59.919 --> 00:03:03.719 I never understood about canning. Like, Okay, I understand, you know, 70 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:05.840 radio stations they want to save money. A lot of 71 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:08.080 it is canned. Now. When I say canned, I mean 72 00:03:08.159 --> 00:03:10.599 like pre recorded. But the thing is is, if you 73 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:16.400 go back in history, radio DJs are technically I mean 74 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:20.199 they started out as journalists. I mean they they were 75 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:25.639 there to provide you news and entertainment. And radio used 76 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:27.000 to be just simply news. 77 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:29.840 When I was in broadcasting school, we had to go 78 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:32.800 rip the news off the teletype. 79 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:34.240 They actually had a teletype and. 80 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:36.080 It would it would, you know, give you news, the 81 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:38.360 biggest news stories, and then you would always have to 82 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:39.639 do the news at the top of the hour. 83 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:44.080 How do sit back in the Old West? Are you 84 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:47.199 you making a reference to my age young man? Maybe 85 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:49.479 just a little bit, No, But I mean, seriously, you 86 00:03:49.479 --> 00:03:51.680 think about it. This is what they were designed to do. 87 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:54.319 They were They weren't designed to just simply do like, 88 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:57.439 uh music. They were you know, radio DJs were there 89 00:03:57.719 --> 00:04:01.759 to uh one, run a station. Make sure that you know, 90 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:04.520 you take your meter readings and make sure the towers, 91 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:07.759 you know, all lights are everything's yeah, the lights are on, 92 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:10.360 and the towers are broadcasting at the right frequency and 93 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:14.879 the right wattage. You're there to provide news, you provide 94 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:18.360 entertainment and then music in between and then eventually just 95 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:20.519 kind of got less and less news and more and 96 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:25.040 more entertainment radio, more and more commercials, more and more commercials. 97 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:28.319 And then and then everything became automated, so then you 98 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:31.319 don't have to take your readings anymore. Everything was automatically 99 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:34.079 logged by a computer. And then and then it just 100 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:35.720 got to eventually was like, oh, we don't even need 101 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:38.480 DJs anymore. And and now some radio stations are even 102 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:40.160 using AI DJs. 103 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:43.759 Let's face it, guys, it's getting really good. Some of 104 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:47.000 the some of the stuff they're able to do is 105 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:49.319 pretty amazing. And you know, one of the big worries 106 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:52.639 that some radio people that you know, I know have 107 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:56.120 is that you think about all the audio we've recorded 108 00:04:56.160 --> 00:04:59.639 over the years, that's an audio print, it's you, yeah, 109 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:04.480 that could be manipulated now using AI to say the time, 110 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:07.199 the weather, the song that was just played, the song 111 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:10.360 that's being played. AI is is scary not only for 112 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:13.639 radio but also for television. There is it's gotten so 113 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:17.240 good that you know, at some point those that are 114 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:20.680 delivering the news on TV have to be concerned. 115 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:24.759 But have you also heard about and this is this 116 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:27.319 is starting to make kind of waves in the tech industry, 117 00:05:27.959 --> 00:05:30.519 is this thing that they they're calling the AI bubble. 118 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:34.959 They're they're talking about this as if this is going 119 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:37.800 to be another one of the dot com busts, you know, 120 00:05:37.959 --> 00:05:41.079 back from the two thousands, you know, when everybody was 121 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:43.000 all in on the internet and the Internet was the 122 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:45.279 big thing, and then all of a sudden, boom, everything 123 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:49.199 just failed. And all these companies are putting so much 124 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:52.680 money into AI, you know, open Ai getting like a 125 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:56.360 five hundred billion dollar investment from like Nvidia, and then 126 00:05:56.439 --> 00:05:59.480 blah blah blah blah blah. People are saying this is 127 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:02.480 this is a yeah, like this, it's gonna fail. And 128 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:05.519 I kind of think that's the way I think. I 129 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:08.720 think the hype has just gotten too big and AI 130 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:11.519 is really not going to do what everybody thinks it's 131 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:11.879 gonna do. 132 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:12.079 Now. 133 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:16.319 Yes, granted, maybe in I don't know, five, ten, twenty years, yeah, 134 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:19.399 maybe we'll all be redundant. But I think right now, 135 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:20.240 I think it's a bubble. 136 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:24.600 Yeah, it's it's I think people are gonna get burned, well, 137 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:27.639 if they're not already burned out, because every time you 138 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:32.120 turn around, oh ai AI, somebody wrote on and I'm 139 00:06:32.120 --> 00:06:35.600 gonna just say I saw this on next door and 140 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:39.399 it was AI with a round circle and a slash 141 00:06:39.480 --> 00:06:42.480 through it, you know, And so I went ahead and asked, 142 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:45.120 I said, just wondering what facet of AI do you 143 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:50.319 dislike the most, And the person responded said everything. 144 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:53.480 I dislike how it's incorporated into every app. 145 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:53.759 Now. 146 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:56.879 I just like how many people were fired. Let's face it, 147 00:06:56.959 --> 00:07:00.399 that's happened because they were replaced by AI. I just 148 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:03.399 like how people normalizing it when it shouldn't. 149 00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:07.360 I just like it's coming from toys. Right. We talked 150 00:07:07.399 --> 00:07:09.680 about this a couple of months ago. Right, has Bro 151 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:12.639 is looking at putting AI and toys, Yes, and that 152 00:07:12.759 --> 00:07:15.000 just doesn't sit right for me. We talked about this 153 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:16.680 a couple months ago. There was an article that came 154 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:21.279 out that said Hasbro is looking at incorporating AI into toys. 155 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:24.519 Right for what reason? Yeah? This is it's ridiculous. 156 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:29.120 My frustration with AI is you are sucking the creativity 157 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:33.360 and the artistic vision out of the human soul. And 158 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:36.120 when you start taking that away from people, what's left? 159 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:40.319 And it if kids are now just going to be know, 160 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:44.279 they're going to be entertained by AI? What why do 161 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:45.360 they need to be creative anymore. 162 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:45.800 That's good. 163 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:47.600 Did they need why did they Why do they need 164 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:48.399 to think anymore? 165 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:51.199 This is exactly what I was having a conversation with 166 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:53.639 my family about. This is that, you know, with AI 167 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:56.639 and what we weren't centered on the AI aspect of it, 168 00:07:57.040 --> 00:08:01.240 but we were more centered on the creativity portion of childhood. 169 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:04.480 And Eric, you know, Eric is constantly like, I'm bored. 170 00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:07.160 I'm bored. And I saw a post. I didn't remember 171 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:09.319 it was read it or Facebook or whatever, but it 172 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:11.800 was like talking about it. It's like, it's okay to 173 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:16.319 be bored. Children should be bored because that's what sparks creativity. 174 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:19.959 That's what makes them go, hmm, what can I make? 175 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:22.639 What can I do? You know? And if they have 176 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:25.360 a screen in front of them the whole time, it's 177 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:28.040 never gonna spark that creativity. It's gonna just give that 178 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:31.560 dopamine hit and then that's it. And and so now 179 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:34.639 then they're gonna be addicted to the dopamine hit, which 180 00:08:34.679 --> 00:08:39.240 is the screen. You know. My My also concern is reading. 181 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:42.240 Uh, let's face it, there's stories that kids aren't reading 182 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:44.679 as much as they used to. Teachers will say that 183 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:49.000 as well, And now we're finding books that will read 184 00:08:49.039 --> 00:08:49.639 to them. 185 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:54.519 Now they're reading along. But I don't know that that 186 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:55.200 that makes me. 187 00:08:55.600 --> 00:08:57.840 That makes me nervous as well. You want your kids 188 00:08:57.879 --> 00:09:02.480 to learn the words and learn how how that sentence 189 00:09:02.559 --> 00:09:05.120 is going and read, and now it's just reading it 190 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:05.559 to them. 191 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:08.919 And I just just think of like even just from 192 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:12.200 like the safeguard, get to put into place, like what's okay, 193 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:14.840 So let's say this children's toy has AI in it. 194 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:17.360 Does it connect to the cloud? Does it? Is it 195 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:21.159 learning connect? Right? So it's like we all know that 196 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:23.440 everybody has a recording device in their phone, you know, 197 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:25.559 in their pocket with their phones, like it's always listening 198 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:29.000 to your TV's, listening your whatever. But now just adding 199 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:33.120 all these other kids toys in kids spaces, listening to 200 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:37.639 what your kids are doing, listening to what I just it, 201 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:39.320 It's just freaks me out. 202 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:43.799 I'm starting to see TV commercials where and I think 203 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:48.279 we're becoming a little more attuned to what artificial intelligence 204 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:51.240 is in the media. And I'm seeing TV commercials where 205 00:09:51.679 --> 00:09:54.399 they'll cut to a shot of a couple sitting around 206 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:57.360 a table. I can tell right away, well that's AI. 207 00:09:58.320 --> 00:09:59.519 You know it's the filmmaking. 208 00:09:59.639 --> 00:10:04.200 You see. Coca Cola released their new AI generated holiday commercial. 209 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:07.200 Oh no, they did it again, so. 210 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:10.399 Last year, so they've they've Last year they did it 211 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:13.519 and it was really bad. You could truly tell this 212 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:16.720 year's just not any better. The animals look awful, the 213 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:21.039 backgrounds look awful, the ending is awful. The whole thing 214 00:10:21.240 --> 00:10:23.759 is just awful. One of the one of the other 215 00:10:23.759 --> 00:10:26.799 frustrated things I have about AI is everybody thinks AI 216 00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:30.519 is just going to make everything cheaper, cheaper and easier. Yeah, 217 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:35.200 but you've sacrificed a lot of quality. You sacrificed a 218 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:38.679 lot for that. Like it's getting to the point where 219 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:41.080 it's what is becoming acceptable to the viewer. 220 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:44.120 I just I just watched that Coca Cola ad. Yeah, 221 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:48.480 I mean, honestly, I don't know, man, it feels Coca Cola. 222 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:51.000 I watched it, and I can tell certain aspects of 223 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:53.440 it or AI. But but the thing about Coca Cola ads, 224 00:10:53.480 --> 00:10:57.840 especially the holiday ads, they've done CGI for so many years, 225 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:01.879 this doesn't feel that different. Friend, then they're normal c 226 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:03.000 g I ads. 227 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:06.039 It's just it's just pushing the boundaries of that uncanny 228 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:10.919 valley where it's just you know, the polar bears are animated, right, 229 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:14.759 that's just a fundamental fact. But this just pushes it 230 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:16.960 to another level with some of the other animals they 231 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:21.120 put in there, the transitions, the snow, the the driving. 232 00:11:21.240 --> 00:11:22.639 If you look at the shot at the end with 233 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:26.399 the semis, it plows over some people, Like what, just 234 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:27.919 just watch the end. Watch the end again. 235 00:11:27.960 --> 00:11:28.919 I watch the end. 236 00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:32.159 Watch people tell you that Semi does not run over people. 237 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:34.559 Oh okay, all right, I'm watching the end of it. 238 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:36.279 Just watch the end and tell me it does not 239 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:37.480 plow over people at the end. 240 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:41.159 All right, Oh my gosh, this is Oh my god, 241 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:47.039 I'm telling you, dude, it's it's and and okay, yeah, 242 00:11:47.320 --> 00:11:52.039 the wide shot of the crowd, all of the people 243 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:55.840 in the last wide shot, right, their their legs. 244 00:11:55.600 --> 00:11:58.200 Are moving funny. Their arms are moving funny. 245 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:02.000 It used to be it was the fingers. Right now, 246 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:03.000 it's the way they move. 247 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:06.320 It's it's probably up on YouTube or will they take 248 00:12:06.360 --> 00:12:08.559 it down, you know, will Coca Cola. 249 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:11.320 Say no, way to the official Coca Cola channel on 250 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:14.320 YouTube and just look for the one. It's called Coca Cola. 251 00:12:14.440 --> 00:12:15.360 Holidays are coming. 252 00:12:15.919 --> 00:12:18.960 Oh boy, we're a subject of media and I would 253 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:21.600 love to hear from you our listeners. You're listening to this, 254 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:24.679 you're thinking, you know, guys, I'm tired of it too. 255 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:25.639 Let us know. 256 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:27.399 I want to I want to get your thoughts or 257 00:12:27.440 --> 00:12:29.799 if you do use it, you know I've had fun 258 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:34.080 with it, like uh, Sora is a part of Chat GPT, 259 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:37.120 which you know I use Chat GPT. It was weird 260 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:39.399 because the other day I needed I needed a graphic 261 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:42.519 and I wanted a video graphic, a moving video graphic 262 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:46.080 for a news story that was on Fox eleven, and 263 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:47.559 I thought, well, why didn't I try and. 264 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:49.159 See if it used to be? 265 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:52.600 It was baked right into chat GPT, and I asked, 266 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:55.039 all would do was give me the stills, And I asked, 267 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:57.559 I said, well, where's the video and they said, oh, it's. 268 00:12:57.360 --> 00:12:58.639 Not incorporated anymore. 269 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:02.799 And it base lied to me because it is with 270 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:05.879 a CHATGBT account open AI. It's just you have to 271 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:09.600 access it a different length Sora dot and then you know, 272 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:12.639 go to the full web length. And I thought, well, 273 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:14.279 that's kind of where I found that out the next 274 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:16.519 day when I was doing some research, Sora too is 275 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:19.360 now going to be available on Android devices and so 276 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:20.159 I found it. 277 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:24.000 Now Sora is a part of my Android. And the 278 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:25.559 other day my grandson was over. 279 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:28.080 He brought up one of those you remember those little 280 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:30.320 horses that have the stick, They have the head and 281 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:33.000 then they have the stick they run around with. So 282 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:35.159 of course I asked Sora to put them on a 283 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:37.399 horse with a picture of head, and it did and 284 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:39.879 it was great. You couldn't have told I mean, it 285 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:43.840 did not look AI generated. So again it's it's it's 286 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:46.320 frustrating because now we're seeing so many tools coming out 287 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:48.879 on so many different sites that do so many different things. 288 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:52.120 You have to wonder, like, really, this is where we're going. 289 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:54.480 I wanted to get Justin's opinion on this, right, So 290 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:58.120 with the Sora stuff, you mentioned the Sora the video generator, right, 291 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:02.799 have you seen the stuff where Studio Ghibli is suing 292 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:06.399 Sorrow because that copyright in fringement. 293 00:14:06.759 --> 00:14:10.080 Not necessarily just Sora, but I knew know that about 294 00:14:10.679 --> 00:14:14.919 eight nine months ago, chat GPT was in hot water 295 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:18.559 with Studio Ghibli because people were basically taking photos and 296 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:22.559 saying make this in a style of Studio Ghibli. And 297 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:25.440 I even have some photos of my family in the 298 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:28.080 studios a police. Remember you did that, and it does 299 00:14:28.279 --> 00:14:31.159 the very very good job. Now, I don't know about 300 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:34.440 the Sora aspects. So if again, if you're trying to 301 00:14:34.440 --> 00:14:36.360 if you're listening to this, you're like, what is Sora? 302 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:42.600 Sora is the video generating application built into chat GPT, 303 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:46.879 so it uses AI to generate video instead of just 304 00:14:47.039 --> 00:14:49.960 text or photos. Yeah. No, I had not heard about 305 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:50.799 the video aspect of it. 306 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.399 So the content oversees distribution Association, which represents a ton 307 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:59.200 of Japanese anime. Yeah, is basically written a very strongly 308 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:04.759 worded letter to open AI and Sora saying you got 309 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:07.639 to stop using our stuff to train your models. Yeah, 310 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:11.080 because it's pumping out copyrighted content. So yeah, that's the 311 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:14.039 kind of stuff that is inevitable. 312 00:15:14.279 --> 00:15:15.879 We're talking about media. 313 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:18.080 So let's let's talk a little bit about something we've 314 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:19.519 talked about for the last couple of weeks. 315 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:23.159 Justin was out. Justin said, hey, I found this website. 316 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:27.240 This website is really cool. I would love to, you know, 317 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:30.000 give my thoughts on it. And of course that website 318 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:33.519 TV Garden. Justin, you finally got a chance to check 319 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:34.080 it out, right? 320 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:38.200 Yeah? Actually, uh yeah I did. You guys were talking 321 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:40.639 about it. I missed lost a couple of shows, but no. 322 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:44.480 I also I also check out TV Garden and it's 323 00:15:44.480 --> 00:15:47.159 actually really cool. I mean, you know, it's I like 324 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:50.480 how you're you're presented with a map, colored map of 325 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:52.720 the globe and you just pick on the country and 326 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:55.480 then it lists what channels are available. I'm personally right 327 00:15:55.519 --> 00:15:58.440 now as we're doing the show, I'm watching a Japanese 328 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:01.720 news channel, isn't that. Yeah, And it's all and it's 329 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:05.639 done via YouTube, so it's like a YouTube embedded channel, 330 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:09.840 but it's streaming live. And yeah, I mean there's there's 331 00:16:09.879 --> 00:16:14.679 there's like at least thirty channels from just Japan alone, 332 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:17.960 not to mention the other countries. But yeah, TV dot 333 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:19.240 Garden is really cool. 334 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:22.720 So I will mention that Andy and I talked about 335 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:27.000 this about two weeks ago, and when we watched it, 336 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:29.879 it had every available ESPN channel. 337 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:32.159 Oh really, it does not anymore. 338 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:38.080 Oh, so for we're talking about tv TV dot Garden, 339 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:41.200 which is a great resource for fighting local televisions just 340 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:46.039 really kind of niche TV stations around the world, but 341 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:49.720 a lot of people this past weekend. Yeah, we're really 342 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:55.720 we're really upset, specifically Notre Dame football fans. So Notre 343 00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:59.799 Dame's game was on ESPN this past weekend. If you 344 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:04.519 have had YouTube TV, you lost access to ESPN the 345 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:06.359 night before the football game, yep. 346 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:08.960 And also Monday Night football. I wanted to watch Monday 347 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:11.359 Night FOOTBA last night because I like to watch the 348 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:15.359 Peyton and Eli Manning cast on ESPN two, and they 349 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:18.319 had Baker Mayfield, which is one of my favorite NFL players. 350 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:20.559 I just like Baker and he was on it, and 351 00:17:20.599 --> 00:17:26.200 I couldn't watch it because ESPN and well Disney, Disney 352 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:29.759 and YouTube are just having a spat. And the craziest 353 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:31.920 part is I heard a story this morning or maybe 354 00:17:31.960 --> 00:17:37.839 yesterday yesterday yesterday morning talk about how Disney approached YouTube 355 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:40.799 TV and said, look, well, actually Google, because that's the 356 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:44.559 parent company. They said, look, we got elections, We got 357 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:47.960 elections on Tuesday. We want our viewers to be able 358 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:51.799 to know what's going on with the elections. Can you 359 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:55.480 please just put our channels back on at least at 360 00:17:55.599 --> 00:18:00.240 least just for Tuesday, May May maybe Wednesday morning. And 361 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:04.839 YouTube was like nope, wow, wow, yeah. 362 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:08.359 And the a lot of the driving for this decision 363 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:13.720 was that ESPN launched their own complete content streaming application. 364 00:18:13.880 --> 00:18:14.039 Yep. 365 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:18.880 Yeah, so a lot of people were just like, like, 366 00:18:19.519 --> 00:18:23.640 I don't want to like what is happening with the 367 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:27.880 streaming world right now, Like we're just it's worse than 368 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:30.400 it was when cables a thing. It's more this is 369 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:30.839 the thing. 370 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:32.640 That ever mentioned in the beginning. 371 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:36.359 Yeah, it's it's more confusing, it's more frustrating, it's more expensive. 372 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:41.160 I have been contemplating making the change to YouTube TV, 373 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:43.799 and people are saying, oh, wait, you might want to 374 00:18:43.799 --> 00:18:45.720 wait a little bit because you may not get all 375 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:46.640 the channels you want. 376 00:18:46.920 --> 00:18:49.279 That's been my problem with the cable company. 377 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:51.720 You don't spending two hundred dollars a month, and yet 378 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:53.839 I really don't get anything. 379 00:18:53.880 --> 00:18:56.200 I want to go back, go back, go back seven 380 00:18:56.240 --> 00:18:58.400 months ago when my or eight months ago, maybe a 381 00:18:58.519 --> 00:19:02.680 year ago, when my in laws got YouTube TV. If 382 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:05.079 we go back and listen to that episode, you should 383 00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:07.000 pull a clips to that episode. Yeah, because it was like, 384 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:10.880 they're gonna save a ton of money because they're cutting cable, 385 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:13.240 they're not using it, they're bundling out the Internet. It's 386 00:19:13.319 --> 00:19:15.880 gonna be fantastic. They're paying seventy bucks a month or 387 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:19.200 whatever for everything. It's like over one hundred dollars. 388 00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:21.319 Now, oh yeah, I pay like one hundred and twenty 389 00:19:21.319 --> 00:19:22.359 five just for YouTube TV. 390 00:19:23.319 --> 00:19:26.039 Yeah, and they're even going at it like this was 391 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:27.400 a good deal when we got it. 392 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:29.440 Yeah. Now that's how they do it. That's how they 393 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:32.359 gettin I kind of wonder if it's corporate greed. 394 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:35.839 If people decide, Okay, I'm gonna leave you to TV, 395 00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:39.880 then their options are well. Of course the antenna and 396 00:19:39.960 --> 00:19:43.920 ATSC three might change some of that for some people. 397 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:49.160 But I'm thinking, okay, so maybe TV Garden it's gonna 398 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:51.559 be that's gonna be the next place to fall fall 399 00:19:51.599 --> 00:19:53.680 down the rabbit hole with. I want to talk a 400 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:56.720 little bit about this because I've never been, and I 401 00:19:56.799 --> 00:19:59.480