WEBVTT 1 00:00:11.720 --> 00:00:15.039 Welcome to the Marvel Lionce Podcast Recover anything and everything 2 00:00:15.080 --> 00:00:17.120 to do to the Marvel Universe and the comics TV 3 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:19.120 in movies. Who will go from first six one six 4 00:00:19.160 --> 00:00:21.359 to the Mojo Verse to the TVA in order to 5 00:00:21.359 --> 00:00:23.800 bring the Marvel Universe right to you. I'm the Man 6 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:24.800 without Fear, Chris. 7 00:00:25.239 --> 00:00:32.280 I'm Travis Alliance A seven volume two hundred and twenty four, 8 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:36.439 and we are now in the era of a post 9 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:38.520 Deadpool and Wolverine world. 10 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:43.600 And yes, as you hear, Brent is not able to 11 00:00:43.679 --> 00:00:48.840 join us tonight. He's had some some off. He's off 12 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:53.240 actually trying to get into the finding where in what 13 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:57.359 actual multiverse can he find Deadpool in Wolverine in because 14 00:00:57.399 --> 00:01:00.479 he's got questions. I've got questions and we need those answers. 15 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:03.359 So Brent is on assignment right now to get those answers. 16 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:06.480 Brent's gotten a few answers from a couple of different 17 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:08.959 actors playing comic book. 18 00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:11.280 Characters over the years, so I wouldn't rule this out. 19 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:15.359 Yeah, yep, including some of his own Marvel Alliance exclusives 20 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:18.560 from mister John bernhal So. But yeah, so hopefully he'll 21 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:20.879 be back next week. At that point, but we wish 22 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:25.159 him well in his quest. So, but Travis Hines has 23 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:28.879 joined us as the illustrious host of The Animation Nation 24 00:01:29.519 --> 00:01:32.680 and co host of DC Alliance. So, how are you 25 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:33.519 doing this week? 26 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:36.599 I'm doing well. Chris. Work was a little blow. 27 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:38.719 But as I was telling you before we started, and 28 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:40.840 I talked about it in the GUA chat, I got 29 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:43.439 a chance to watch the entire ten episodes of Batman 30 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:47.599 Cape Crusaders today. So it was a very enjoyable experience. 31 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:51.120 Great day, not as productive of day as I would 32 00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:55.280 like to be, But I implore anybody if you're a fan 33 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:58.359 of Batman, the animated series, check this shows. 34 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:00.000 It's a love letter to Batman. 35 00:02:01.159 --> 00:02:05.480 Yeah, it's definitely looking looking forward to seeing those that 36 00:02:05.719 --> 00:02:09.400 that amazing stuff this weekend. So but but yeah, so 37 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:12.439 we are going to be talking about I know, we 38 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:16.879 did our live kind of reactions to the SEC panel 39 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:19.280 with the geek Verse guys. We really appreciate them inviting 40 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:21.759 us on. I know the audio that released. Mainly we 41 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:24.240 mainly kind of focus on the big event of it, 42 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:26.479 and uh, we only had a little bit of discussion 43 00:02:26.520 --> 00:02:29.360 everything else. But we're going to use this episode to 44 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:31.840 kind of do our full breakdown of the panel and 45 00:02:31.879 --> 00:02:34.039 we are knocking. We are not alone on this. We 46 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:36.520 have a guest that was actually there on the ground. 47 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:38.919 He's going to talk to us about his experiences, but 48 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:40.759 we're gonna bring him in just a little bit because 49 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:44.280 we have the Lovely Lovely Network plugs that we have 50 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:46.080 to do before that. So we are part of the 51 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:49.280 Geek Ultimate Alliance Network with seven shows covering the wide 52 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:52.599 range of geek and nerdom. 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Brendon and I will be recording 70 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:46.479 our first dive into the original X Men movie this month. 71 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:48.800 It is now officially at time recording August first, So 72 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:50.520 this month we will be recording and it will drop 73 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:52.800 at the end of the month. DC Alliance, you all 74 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:55.639 have DC films through the years. What is your most 75 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:56.560 recent episode? 76 00:03:56.719 --> 00:04:00.360 Our most recent episode was Superman Returns Chris. Was a 77 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:04.120 very fun discussion. A lot of the CGI and special 78 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:06.800 effects really still hold up quite well, but there was 79 00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:09.879 a lot to discuss. And this month is going to 80 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:12.800 be a film I've never seen before. Calm start us. 81 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:17.079 So Joe has the list. 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We want to congratulate them 147 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:47.199 on nine great years, because without geek Verse, no geek 148 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:50.959 Ultimate alliance really doesn't exist, so we really appreciate it. 149 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:54.319 Congratulations everyone over there at geek Verse, and I look 150 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:59.920 forward to participating in the trivia. All right, So SDCC 151 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:03.240 the Hall h panel, you know, usually you know, we 152 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:06.439 would break down this, but we did have a fellow 153 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:10.720 mutual reach out to me letting me know that he 154 00:08:10.759 --> 00:08:13.519 would be on the floor and would be happy to 155 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:15.720 come on and talk about his on the on the 156 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:18.600 floor experiences. So I said absolutely, So we're going to 157 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:21.920 bring him in right now. Everyone say a big hello 158 00:08:21.959 --> 00:08:24.639 to Carrie. How you doing, Carrie doing good? 159 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:26.000 Guys, happy to be here. 160 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:29.879 Thank you for coming on, and yeah, tell the people 161 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:30.959 a little bit about yourself. 162 00:08:32.960 --> 00:08:36.559 Born and raised in the San Francisco Bay area, you know, 163 00:08:36.639 --> 00:08:40.759 maybe between San Jose and San Francisco, kind of Silicon 164 00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:43.720 Valley area. Been out in Colorado for the last few years. 165 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:48.720 And like like Chris, I'm also in the field of education, 166 00:08:49.679 --> 00:08:51.960 although that might be changing for me in the near future. 167 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:55.159 We'll see. There's a lot of TBA the TVD to 168 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:57.000 figure it out there. But yeah, most of my career 169 00:08:57.000 --> 00:08:59.360 has been an education as a teacher in the classroom. 170 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:00.919 That is. 171 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:03.200 That is great, and uh, tats off to you at 172 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:07.960 that point, and what you know, it's like you said, 173 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:10.480 things always changing, things always moving at that point, but 174 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:14.440 obviously always wish everyone the best at that point. So 175 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:17.600 talk to us about like SDCC so to kind of a 176 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:19.120 little bit about yours. I know we talked to a 177 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:22.559 little bit off air, But first question I have before 178 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:25.679 we even get into the panel itself is how long 179 00:09:25.720 --> 00:09:28.039 you've been going? You know, some of your favorite kind 180 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:29.639 of memories of hall. 181 00:09:29.679 --> 00:09:34.200 H twenty fifteen was the year I was first able 182 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:35.960 to go. That was the year that me and my 183 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:39.000 friend and my cousin were able to finally snag badges. 184 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:42.720 I had tried a couple of years prior and no luck. 185 00:09:42.759 --> 00:09:45.600 You know, and everything you hear about how fast the 186 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:48.159 badges for Comic Con sell out, you know, when the 187 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:51.799 general sale happens, it's all. It all is true. At sale, 188 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:55.320 you know, they sell out with if not within an hour, 189 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:58.519 shortly after an hour. So it does just a matter. 190 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:02.200 It's just a random selection process. And the fortunate thing 191 00:10:02.360 --> 00:10:05.759 is after you've been able to go, then your chances 192 00:10:06.399 --> 00:10:11.000 of getting a badge to increase if you're a returning member. Uh, 193 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:13.360 even if you only scored like you know, one day 194 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:16.000 from the initial sale, then you that you qualify for 195 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:21.000 returning registration and uh you also you know, and there's 196 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:23.360 other strategies and methods that have learned over the years 197 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:25.759 of making sure we get badges for every year. So yeah, 198 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:28.039 buying us the years where we're shut down for COVID H. 199 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:31.559 I've been going every year since twenty fifteen. So and 200 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:34.559 I can tell you also this, uh, you know, I 201 00:10:34.600 --> 00:10:36.960 would When I first started hearing about comic Con was 202 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:40.799 probably around twenty ten to twenty eleven somewhere around there. 203 00:10:40.799 --> 00:10:43.519 And that was when you know, phase one of the 204 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:46.799 MCU was in, you know, is on the on the upswing. 205 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:50.480 You know, we were post Iron Man two. Uh, and 206 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:52.919 you know, all the fans were speculating, is this is 207 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:57.039 this you know, cinematic universe idea? Mike, he was one 208 00:10:57.039 --> 00:10:58.600 of my boys from the only guys I was with 209 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:02.600 a comic con. You know that back then we were 210 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:04.799 all wondering, how is this whole Avengers think going to work? 211 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:08.279 How is this whole shared cinematic universe gonna work? Is 212 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:11.000 people gonna connect with thor people connect with caps cap 213 00:11:11.039 --> 00:11:13.840 to outdated those kind of questions were all just looming 214 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:15.919 and we just didn't know. And you know, twenty ten, 215 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:18.720 I think was the area they had, you know, the 216 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:21.919 panels for Captain America verst Avenger the first Thor movie, 217 00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:24.159 and then brought out the whole Avengers cast on stage 218 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:29.759 long before they started filming. So that plus stuff related 219 00:11:29.799 --> 00:11:33.039 to DC, you know, not not being able to be 220 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:35.519 there for the Man of Steel panel made me go like, 221 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:38.480 I can't miss this anymore. I have to be there 222 00:11:38.519 --> 00:11:40.919 for these kind of things, So I want to be 223 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:43.279 in the room for this level of hype and excitement 224 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:45.799 and to be engaged with this material is really what 225 00:11:45.799 --> 00:11:47.440 what drove me to it and be able to see 226 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:50.720 exclusive footage, see the cast on stage. Those have always 227 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:54.320 been my motivating my biggest motivated factors. Plus but there's 228 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:55.960 so many things to see and do in comic kind 229 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:57.080 to make it a rich experience. 230 00:11:57.639 --> 00:12:00.559 Yeah, I would say like comic it's been one of 231 00:12:00.559 --> 00:12:02.879 those things at least for me that I've thought about it, 232 00:12:02.919 --> 00:12:05.159 but it's never been enough for me just because of 233 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:07.960 I see, I'm not a like, I don't have an 234 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:09.960 aversion of crowds or anything like that, but how much 235 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:12.279 it's grown and gotten to a point where saying, I 236 00:12:12.320 --> 00:12:14.000 don't know if I even want to be in this 237 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:17.240 kind of environment necessarily. And then with the strikes happened 238 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:20.559 last year, that would have been the stc fee for 239 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:22.639 me to go to because I you know, I love 240 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:24.840 seeing all the Hollywood and TV stuff, but like I 241 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:27.440 am all not saying you aren't, but the comic book 242 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:31.320 creators and how it was such a unique show back 243 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:32.840 to when it used to be the way it was, 244 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:35.320 and how much everyone had said it was so unique. 245 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:37.360 So last year would have been the year. But maybe 246 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:39.159 one day I'll get out there and have the opportunity 247 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:41.240 to go out there and maybe do some my own 248 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:44.039 boots on the ground for a Gigletimate alliance. That would 249 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:44.639 be kind of fun. 250 00:12:44.840 --> 00:12:47.840 Yeah, And I was there last year and it did 251 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:49.720 have a different It was still everyone was still happy 252 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:52.000 and excited to be there. Yeah, but you know it 253 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:54.240 did have a different vibe and feel without all the 254 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:57.039 big Hollywood studios for movies and TV. But you know 255 00:12:57.399 --> 00:12:59.799 that there was just the focus was back on the comics. 256 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:03.960 Like Scott Snyder is my favorite comic book writer, so 257 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:05.879 I had to be able to, you know, get signed 258 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:07.440 by him. Meet with him, and that kind of stuff 259 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:11.799 is always really fun. So yeah, so I went to 260 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:13.720 Wonder for a couple of years before I was able 261 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:15.919 to start going to comic Con. So it definitely has 262 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:18.960 that kind of smaller feel in that regard, but still 263 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:21.879 feel like you're part of a big size convention where 264 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:23.759 there's a lot of energy to be there with the 265 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:24.279 other fans. 266 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:26.240 So did you know did you. 267 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:29.919 Know Marvel was going to like do a big presentation 268 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:32.639 before you decided to go back this DCC this year, 269 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:33.840 or were you already going? 270 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:35.279 Nope, regardless, I wouldn't. 271 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:38.360 I knew I was going regardless, So that was always 272 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:42.159 I I would have been really surprised if they decided 273 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:45.919 to skip one of the talk tracks that I'm sure 274 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:48.240 you guys have speculated off and on or comments on 275 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:51.159 here and there. You know, anytime there's a d twenty 276 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:55.120 three year, I feel like the pundits always want to say, well, 277 00:13:55.159 --> 00:13:57.480 this is near Marvel will skip because they won't cost 278 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:00.799 them money to go. But like Kevin Figey, I think 279 00:14:00.840 --> 00:14:02.919 has made it pretty darn and clear that he values 280 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:06.039 the comic, the San Diego Comic Con experience, even if 281 00:14:06.039 --> 00:14:07.840 there's a d twenty three year and they're just gonna 282 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:11.120 find a way to do both. If they have if 283 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:13.799 they have material to share, like if they have footage 284 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:16.360 to show, if they have cast to an ounce and 285 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:19.039 bring on the stage and you know, answer a couple 286 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:21.919 of questions, and if they have announcements to make, like 287 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:24.120 any casting announcements or things like that. If they have 288 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:26.720 something to talk about, they're going to be there. But 289 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:29.000 if there, if it's a year where they're needed to 290 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:30.879 put a pause button on things, or if it's in 291 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:34.360 between you know, before like you know, like obviously in 292 00:14:34.360 --> 00:14:36.440 between Intrity New War An Endgame they did where they 293 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:40.519 skip twenty nineteen. Uh wait, no, twenty eighteen for obvious reasons. 294 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:45.320 Uh so you know I and so yeah, the times 295 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:47.000 where they do skip always sort of seem to make 296 00:14:47.039 --> 00:14:49.000 sense when you look at the nature of the way 297 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:54.919 things are releasing. So they so historically they're they're both 298 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:58.679 for Comic Comic Con and D twenty three. So there 299 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:01.240 really wasn't any question, especially since they weren't able to 300 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:04.600 go for the reasons for the strikes last year, there 301 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:06.360 was really no doubt in my mind that they would 302 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:08.039 be showing up nice. 303 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:10.879 Well good, We'll let us get into kind of like 304 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:14.759 your experiences down there this year at that point, I 305 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:16.200 know you said you wanted to kind of talk about 306 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:20.480 there was a little difference unique experiences this year between 307 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:22.639 kind of you know, they surprised everyone and it wasn't 308 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:26.039 just the standard hall Ah panel before, but they decided 309 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:30.919 to do a surprise presentation and do a dead Pool 310 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:33.600 Wolverine panel that basically turned into let's all watch the 311 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:36.519 movie together with the stars of it at that point. 312 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:38.600 But yeah, talk about kind of talk about your experiences 313 00:15:38.639 --> 00:15:41.559 before we get into the actual hall Ah panel. 314 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:45.759 Sure, And for anyone who's listening who has always heard 315 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:49.000 things about Comic Con over the years, all the stories 316 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:51.240 you hear about, you know, people camping out, having to 317 00:15:51.279 --> 00:15:53.320 wait a whole day in line, or having to form 318 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:56.399 groups in order to wait in line in order to 319 00:15:56.399 --> 00:15:58.960 get into Hall h All, that is absolutely one percent 320 00:15:59.039 --> 00:16:02.000 true and accurate. So that is very much a thing 321 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:06.080 of people start they Comma consecurity plants a next dayline 322 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:08.639 flag at some point in the marina that's on the 323 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:11.480 kind of the backside of the convention center, and even 324 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:14.360 as as early as basically I don't know, I don't know, 325 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:16.080 I forget what time they did this year, but like 326 00:16:16.600 --> 00:16:21.360 eleven o'clock eleven pm Thursday, since people wanting to go 327 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:23.679 into Friday's events had already been moved up to where 328 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:25.759 they need to be and given wristbands to make sure 329 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:30.240 they were gonna get priority to get inside the Saturday 330 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:33.519 hal Age, people started lining up at that point. So 331 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:36.639 it is, you know, the fans are very eager to 332 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:38.759 make sure they're getting in line at at a good point, 333 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:40.720 to get a good spot in line and to get wristbands, 334 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:42.720 and so I didn't tell you where you're gonna be 335 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:45.960 in the room. More or less the thing that Marvel 336 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:49.960 did very differently this year. When the panel schedule was 337 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:52.720 announced about two weeks before the con, there was this 338 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:56.399 slot on Thursday night for haul Age that said just 339 00:16:56.440 --> 00:17:01.159 said TBA, like just no clear indication of what the 340 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:04.160 panel was for, who that was for, what studio if any, 341 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:07.079 was going to be there for it. And then around 342 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:10.880 the time when in one of the press releases where 343 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:14.000 you know, not only did Marvel Studios officially confirm that 344 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:16.200 they were going to be there on Saturday Saturday night 345 00:17:16.279 --> 00:17:18.720 is their usual time slot, which was no different this year, 346 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:21.079 but then it was in more or less in that 347 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:25.480 same breath or shortly afterwards that they announced that the 348 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:29.839 Thursday TBA panel was going to be this Deadpool and Wolverine. 349 00:17:30.279 --> 00:17:33.440 I think they called it a celebration of Life panel, 350 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:36.160 and not only but they were going to do it 351 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:39.640 run it differently the way that Comic Con normally does 352 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:41.599 it is if you go in, if you get into 353 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:45.240 the panel, whole age or any panels really, any panel 354 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:48.640 rooms throughout the convention center. They don't clear the rooms 355 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:51.039 in between panels. So if you get there, if you're 356 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:53.200 there for the very first panel, you can choose to 357 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:55.279 stay there the whole rest of the day. No one's 358 00:17:55.319 --> 00:17:58.319 going to care. Okay, you might if you leave and 359 00:17:58.400 --> 00:18:00.880 come back, you might have trouble getting back in, depending 360 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.599 on what it is, but you can stay the whole 361 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:08.759 day inside there basically. So the difference was for the 362 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:10.960 Thursday night think they did clear the room before that 363 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:13.359 Deadpool wool room because they made it where you had 364 00:18:13.400 --> 00:18:15.559 to like go on a certain website or some kind 365 00:18:15.839 --> 00:18:19.680 an RSVP and to try and fast forward to Thursday 366 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:21.839 night itself. I mean, I wasn't in that line. I 367 00:18:21.880 --> 00:18:26.200 didn't manage to RSVP on the link in time for it, 368 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:27.759 but I did manage to go see it at a 369 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:30.119 movie theater with a friend of mine down in San Diego, 370 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:32.960 which was fun. But the major thing I heard was 371 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:36.200 that it for as many things as comic con does 372 00:18:36.279 --> 00:18:41.119 right in terms of everyone who'd had RSVP'd, not everyone 373 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:44.119 got inside, even though they knew the numbers of the hall. 374 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:47.799 Ah hold sixty five hundred people, so they should have 375 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:50.200 known exactly how many people are getting it in. But 376 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:52.440 there were people who are svp'd who didn't get in, 377 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:54.799 and I think it's because at some point they stopped 378 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:58.759 scanning the RSVP notices, or I think a lot of 379 00:18:58.759 --> 00:19:01.440 people are probably screamed me it took screenshots of their 380 00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:03.599 RSVP notice and shared it with their friends. Of the 381 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:05.720 friends who didn't actually try or didn't get it could 382 00:19:05.720 --> 00:19:07.559 now go in. And they just didn't do a very 383 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:09.440 good job of monitoring that line. And I guess the 384 00:19:09.559 --> 00:19:12.359 organization that line was just really really off base compared 385 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:15.720 to like how a comic con normally manages their lines 386 00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:17.880 and getting people in, So that was a bit of 387 00:19:17.880 --> 00:19:21.759 a different ordeal. Yeah, Marvel's never never had any kind 388 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:25.319 of like RSVP system for any panel before, so that 389 00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:27.440 was definitely a unique thing for this year. I think 390 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:30.400 it's because they screened the movie. They're inside with you know, 391 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:33.160 sixty five hundred fans and the other thing that I 392 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:35.519 missed out on. I wish I'd been around and outside 393 00:19:35.559 --> 00:19:38.039 for it. But they did put on Around the time 394 00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:40.759 the panel, the Deadpool and Wolverine panel wrapped, they put 395 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:45.279 on a really cool drone light show around somewhere in 396 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:47.759 the sky around the convention center that showed not just 397 00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:50.279 you know, Deadpool and Wolverine, but like other I think 398 00:19:50.279 --> 00:19:53.240 that had the Fantastic Four logo, It had Galactis an 399 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:56.000 outline of his head and things like that. So a 400 00:19:56.079 --> 00:19:58.880 really cool feature that they got to do to continue 401 00:19:58.960 --> 00:20:01.200 just to drive a more hype and excitement. 402 00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:05.480 That's cool. Yeah, and it's interesting. You know, again, they 403 00:20:05.480 --> 00:20:08.799 probably learned a lot from this new experience they tried. 404 00:20:08.839 --> 00:20:11.559 They tried to do and again a cool experience that 405 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:15.759 people weren't necessarily thought they would do with the movie 406 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:18.440 coming out. But maybe you know, again they're you know, 407 00:20:18.759 --> 00:20:23.119 I don't know, the uh if Fantastic four First Steps 408 00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:26.160 and stc C lineup as well as it Dead pul 409 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:29.240 Wolverine line up with the show next year, but it's 410 00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:31.039 around the same time, so we'll just have to see. 411 00:20:31.160 --> 00:20:34.920 But but yeah, let's get into actual hall h and 412 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:38.160 kind of the breakdown discussions and hear what you saw 413 00:20:38.200 --> 00:20:40.240 at that point, and Travis and I will kind of 414 00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:43.039 jump in and kind of since we were the outsiders 415 00:20:43.079 --> 00:20:46.200 looking and watching Twitter feeds and other people talk about it. 416 00:20:46.559 --> 00:20:49.880 So I know they first up. They they brought up 417 00:20:49.920 --> 00:20:52.839 a Brave New World. Now, the trailer did drop a 418 00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:55.920 few weeks ago at that point, and I remember when 419 00:20:55.920 --> 00:21:01.920 I saw dead Pool Wolverine, they took out you know, Isaiah, Isaiah, 420 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:04.279 he saw him take out the gun. But they definitely 421 00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:07.839 cut away from the shooting of Thunderbolt Ross due to 422 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:11.359 a recent event, which totally get but you know, it's 423 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:13.640 one of those things that I get it, but it's 424 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:16.200 also like, yeah, this is a conflict movie. I don't 425 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:18.079 think you know, in this case, we're gonna be so 426 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:21.599 but neither here nor there. But so yeah, Brave New World. 427 00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:23.920 We got the cast on the stage. We got a 428 00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:27.119 great moment with Harrison Ford being the incredible I mean, 429 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:29.319 I'm a Harrison fort He is my number one favorite 430 00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:31.599 actor of all time, and I love it when he 431 00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:34.759 hams it up on stage like that and does that. 432 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:38.960 But you know, get we'll talk about it kind of 433 00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:41.079 what you saw that because we know you all saw 434 00:21:41.119 --> 00:21:44.920 footage and that kind of like footage mixed in with 435 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:47.559 kind of a think it was like a kind of 436 00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:48.759 a splash reel at the end. 437 00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:51.839 Yeah. So the way they did it was, first of all, 438 00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:53.640 they kicked off the whole h panel. They had all 439 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:57.440 sorts of dancing Deadpools dancing up and down the aisles. 440 00:21:57.720 --> 00:21:59.200 You know too, I think I forget the name of 441 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:01.039 the song, but it's one of them on the songs. 442 00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:06.559 Probably uh uh, you know, like the prayer song. 443 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:07.039 Yeah. 444 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:09.799 Yeah, So so they had a variety of dancing Deadpools 445 00:22:09.839 --> 00:22:11.400 up and down the aisles that had a whole choir 446 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:14.480 on stage that came out singing the song as well too, 447 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:17.240 uh to kind of just to get fans, get us 448 00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:19.160 all hyped and excited for them starting. 449 00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:19.839 Uh. 450 00:22:19.920 --> 00:22:25.559 Then Kevin Faige came out and he brought on uh, 451 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:27.839 he brought on I forget the name of the actor, 452 00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:31.519 but Peter from the Deadpool franchise, and he served as 453 00:22:31.559 --> 00:22:33.960 the moderator for the whole thing. He's the one that 454 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:36.440 asked questions of Kevin fig and the cast members as 455 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:38.480 they brought or it came out at various points so 456 00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:41.640 for all throughout the evening. So uh so, yeah, that's 457 00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:46.160 how they created the excitement for everything. And I can't 458 00:22:46.160 --> 00:22:49.279 remember the order of things exactly. I want to say 459 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:55.240 they led with the extended footage, Okay, that they might 460 00:22:55.279 --> 00:22:57.160 have brought out the cast for I can't remember the order. 461 00:22:57.200 --> 00:22:59.200 If they brought out the cast first and talked a 462 00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:00.920 little bit about and then the footage that they kind 463 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:04.240 of led in with the with the Captain American Bravey 464 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:08.039 World footage. But I can tell you this, I was. 465 00:23:08.279 --> 00:23:11.200 It was like probably a good six or seven minute 466 00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:13.599 stretch of a stretch of footage that they showed us, 467 00:23:13.599 --> 00:23:16.279 so very much like an extended trailer. The start of 468 00:23:16.279 --> 00:23:19.000 it was actually kind of a complete scene that was 469 00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:26.839 between between Ross and Sam and them conversing and them 470 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:29.000 talking about the whole thing of you know, wanting to 471 00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:33.440 make Captain American official military position again and the nature 472 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:38.920 of that conversation. So the footage blew my mind. It 473 00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:42.160 was fantastic. Is it really just has cemented for me 474 00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:45.119 that this movie, for a long time has been one 475 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:48.599 of my most anticipated MCU projects coming up. I love 476 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:51.319 Anthony Mackie as Sam Wilson in the role. I love 477 00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:54.480 the falcon A Winter Soldier series, and so I'm really 478 00:23:54.519 --> 00:23:56.000 really excited for what they got coming. 479 00:23:57.000 --> 00:23:59.839 Yeah, from what we kind of am reading from a 480 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:02.240 book dot com, Brandon Davis kind of a breakdown, saying 481 00:24:02.279 --> 00:24:05.279 in the footage, Harrison Fort's President Ross explains how when 482 00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:09.039 the celestial mass emerged from the Indian Ocean, humans squabbled 483 00:24:09.079 --> 00:24:11.759 over it and tried to export resources. He explains the 484 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:14.680 new element belongs to all of us, which I kind 485 00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:17.119 of talked about in the trailer, saying, like my theory 486 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:20.240 is uh. He says that, but I think it's the 487 00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:23.079 Japanese first late claim to it and seems to be 488 00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:26.559 where this alliance is coming from. Moments later, the President 489 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:29.240 and Sam talked about their past disagreements which he just said, 490 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:34.200 and desire to rebuild the Avengers. They discussed what will 491 00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:37.079 happen when they disagree how to man situation. Sam gets 492 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:39.480 a new suit in the next clip, leading to a 493 00:24:39.480 --> 00:24:44.279 sizzle reel. Sidewinder locks and loads and calls out standby 494 00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:48.119 for proof of death before shooting at Sam. Tense footage 495 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:51.720 brings Sam out. Ross wants the entire thing put to bed. 496 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:54.200 Sam isn't happy with that cut to an action seeing 497 00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:57.640 Sam flying chasing around Tia Mutt. But I think the 498 00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:01.240 biggest thing we got confirmation on is you all heard 499 00:25:01.240 --> 00:25:05.279 the words adamantium in the footage, and so yeah, now 500 00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:07.880 that is the that is the mirror, that is the 501 00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:11.880 resource that seems to be all has all this world 502 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:12.519 now with Twitter. 503 00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:19.559 Yeah that hearing Harrison Ford as President Ross out of 504 00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:23.960 the word adam antium, my jaw dropped. There was very 505 00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:26.519 much like a you know, I have my phone. Actually know, 506 00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:28.960 we phones were put away obviously at that point because 507 00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:30.200 they wanted us to make sure we weren't filming. 508 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:31.880 You had your phone, some people didn't. 509 00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:34.559 It was it was you know, it was on, but 510 00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:36.559 it was turned down so that once the footage stops, 511 00:25:36.599 --> 00:25:38.160 so I could bring the camera back up and report 512 00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:41.720 what's happening on stage. But I was very much like 513 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:46.480 an O grab moment of that reveal. I would never 514 00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:48.200 a million years have guessed that they were going to 515 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:52.000 use the celestial to explain how adam anti where adamantium 516 00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:55.480 comes from? Uh. In the Marvel Cinematic nuver. So seeing 517 00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:58.559 them connect those dots and and and you know that's 518 00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:02.440 how they're introducing that into this world. That was so through. 519 00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:06.559 I was like, oh my gosh, that's awesome. So that 520 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:07.400 was a great moment. 521 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:10.960 Was it a crowd pot for that? A lot of 522 00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:13.079 people are like, Okay. 523 00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:14.839 A lot of people went on that's for that one. 524 00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:17.759 What you now hearing all this? Travison, you're kind of 525 00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:19.839 two cents on what she experienced with this particular part 526 00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:21.799 of the panel, Brave New World. What are your kind 527 00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:24.279 of your thoughts on not only just Adamantium, but what 528 00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:25.480 was kind of shown out there. 529 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:29.640 I'm with Carrie too. Even before going into this, I 530 00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:32.799 was digging this. I really enjoyed Falcon the Winter Soldier 531 00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:34.880 in the series, and I'm right there with you with 532 00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:38.440 Anthony Mackie. I can't wait to see Ridhole like the 533 00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:41.039 one little thing we got of him in the trailer, 534 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:45.319 and then just seeing how Ali and Harrison forty is 535 00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:47.680 like being in the panel, like getting up and screaming 536 00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:51.079 and like being into it. I can't wait to see 537 00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:55.799 this performance. So I can't wait to see also what 538 00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:58.759 who the different factions that are going to be going 539 00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:01.319 after Adamantium, because it's not just gonna be the ones 540 00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:02.640 that we're gonna hear it before we go in. 541 00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:04.240 There's gonna be definitely. 542 00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:06.880 Somebody on the back burner trying to play the streams 543 00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:07.240 for this. 544 00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:09.759 So I can't wait. It's just so much to this film. 545 00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:13.559 Yeah, and uh foot Media saying do we think Harrison 546 00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:17.119 Ford knows what adam antium means for the MCU. You know, 547 00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:19.599 we'll take we'll assume the line is what he said 548 00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:22.240 recently during an interview with a question like this, saying 549 00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:24.960 I really appreciate the opportunity to answer this and I 550 00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:28.799 take it with two ways dignity and uh indignity at 551 00:27:28.799 --> 00:27:31.799 that point, and I don't care is what so this 552 00:27:31.960 --> 00:27:34.519 interviews is Uh, I think they need to learn that 553 00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:38.079 it's gonna he is gonna be respectful, but at point 554 00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:39.880 do you ask a question like that you know he 555 00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:41.680 doesn't care about Yeah, he's gonna let you have it. 556 00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:46.680 But we also got that confirmation and uh, John Carles 557 00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:50.440 Bosito was right when he said that no one had 558 00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:53.759 guessed it right and we were he he was true 559 00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:56.279 to his word that he is playing the leader of 560 00:27:56.319 --> 00:28:00.480 the Serpent Society Sidewinder and everyone's i know, on our 561 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:03.559 child's like, Okay, now I've got to look this up 562 00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.200 at this point because that is a deep pull. And yeah, 563 00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:08.079 I don't think we're going to get the comic accurate 564 00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:12.319 suit for mister Sidewinder at that point. But the fact 565 00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:13.839 that he also said that he's going to be in 566 00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:16.880 an unannounced Disney Plus show as one of the leads 567 00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:18.920 is going to be very interesting to see if we're 568 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:21.519 going to get that at D twenty three some confirmation 569 00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:25.720 of that. But but yeah, Sidewinder as one of our 570 00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:27.880 main antagonists next to the leader in this one? How 571 00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:28.880 do we all feel about that? 572 00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:31.279 Didn't the Serpent Society get cut out? 573 00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:34.839 Like they had stuff that was filmed originally with like 574 00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:39.640 that seth Rollins guy and other so they changed that around. 575 00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:42.440 He is cut out of the movie from what we understand. 576 00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:46.640 I believe his wife is rumor has it that she 577 00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:49.240 is still in it, but he has been cut out 578 00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:51.359 of it. And I think that's an unfortunate history of 579 00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:55.480 mister seth Rollins with being cut out of certain shows. 580 00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:58.599 But but yeah, so Serpent Society is still in there, 581 00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:00.880 maybe in a very in a different role, which is 582 00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:04.240 when they brought in John Carlo into it. So, you know, 583 00:29:05.079 --> 00:29:08.279 I like giohn Carlo. I've been a big fan since 584 00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:11.319 his beginnings. At that point, I have, you know, kind 585 00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:14.440 of followed his career before Breaking Bad. But hey, that's 586 00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:17.480 a prestige actor. I wish one day, though, we will 587 00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:20.599 see him in his kind of haiti right now, not 588 00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:24.079 being a villain. I know he can do it. I've 589 00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:26.680 seen him not be a villain, but I mean it 590 00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:27.599 brings him the money. 591 00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:31.839 So I always referred to the first time I saw 592 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:35.400 John Carlo as Spiezio and something was in the Usual Suspects. 593 00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:38.400 He was an FBI agent, yep, And so that was 594 00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:41.480 my first and I remember thinking, this guy is really good. 595 00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:43.279 I like this guy. I like I want to see more. 596 00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:51.759 It's one of my buddies there. Yeah, he's I didn't 597 00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:54.000 get into Breaking Bad when everyone else's and I haven't 598 00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:56.440 watched the entire series. I've seen only a few episodes 599 00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:58.119 with him in it, but I've loved everything he's been 600 00:29:58.119 --> 00:29:59.960 in whenever I've seen it, whether it's like the Boy, 601 00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.759 these are other stuff. So yeah, but he was a protagonist, 602 00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:05.920 at least in in the that short bit he was 603 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:07.640 in the usual suspect, so would be cool to see 604 00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:12.480 him return. Anyways, his energy, uh, everyone's energy on stage 605 00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:16.680 was fantastic, like he was excited. Uh Anthony Mackie is 606 00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:19.119 you know, he's a he's a showman. He's a ball 607 00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:21.839 full of energy. And also the funny thing was once 608 00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:24.160 Harrison Ford came on stage, because Harrison Ford didn't come 609 00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:26.640 on until a little bit later after they write out 610 00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:30.119 him and the other guys. And and also I'm forgetting 611 00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:32.839 that the guy we've plays Samuel Stearns, the actor was 612 00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:38.720 playing Tim Tim. Uh yeah, yeah, so they were on 613 00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:40.759 the stage and Harrison Ford came out, came out a 614 00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:45.119 little bit later. But dude, Anthony Mackie was ribbon on Harrison. 615 00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:48.839 I heard he was. He was, he was throwing some 616 00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:52.440 throwing some comments his way uh to really to to 617 00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:54.839 not really rough salt in the route, but you know, 618 00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:57.960 to you know, play with their you know their and 619 00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:01.720 their you know, probably antagon between each other in the movie. 620 00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:05.000 And then Harrison Ford's like, see, I've been dealing with 621 00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:07.200 this for last year and a half or something like that. 622 00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:10.000 You know, so yeah, the way that you know, Harrison 623 00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.480 Ford just kind of pretends to hulk out, you know, 624 00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:15.759 and in the moment it was just got everyone everyone 625 00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:17.160 excited and cheering and whatnot. 626 00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:19.839 Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Tim Blake Nelson. Yet that's correct, 627 00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:23.839 and he's saying that they were super over dramatic about 628 00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:25.920 how secretive his character was. I think a lot of 629 00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:28.960 people were disappointed because they made everyone think it was 630 00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:32.480 going to be a massive role and how secretive it was. Yeah, again, 631 00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:34.640 they they'll play it up at that point, get some 632 00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:38.880 the taglines, and when it was like, it was like, yeah, 633 00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:42.720 I mean, you're right, no one would guess it, you know. 634 00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:46.599 The GW Bridge was an interesting guest still was if 635 00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:48.759 that ended up being was like, okay, I'll wait till 636 00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:51.200 I see it. What wasn't necessary my Bengo card. So 637 00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:55.160 but all right, let's let's kind of transition into the 638 00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:59.359 Thunderbolts and see and kind of talk about that. So 639 00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:03.920 Thunderbolts asterix. You know, I don't even know we're gonna 640 00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:08.599 call it the Thunderbolts with an asterix. What was kind 641 00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:09.960 of your experiences on the floor with that? 642 00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:13.359 So most of the cast comes out and then when 643 00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:16.119 they announced David Harbor, he doesn't come out on stage 644 00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:18.640 from the usual spot that everyone else does, and they're like, 645 00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:21.480 David Harbor, David, where are you? And then all of 646 00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:24.000 a sudden he comes out on the side. So he's 647 00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:26.400 walking through the aisles on the you know where we're 648 00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:30.920 all sitting, and he's in his red Guardian costume and 649 00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:33.839 he's not in character. Well maybe I think he maybe 650 00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:35.960 was in character at first. And then as he gets 651 00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:38.839 closer to the stage, he looks at all the rest 652 00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:41.720 of the cast is like, wait a minute, you guys 653 00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:45.359 aren't in costume. You guys promised me, we went with 654 00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:47.759 this is comic Con. You promised me we would all 655 00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:50.519 show up in costume. I'm so embarrassed. And and he's like 656 00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:54.559 throwing your jabs at your verbal jabs at like at 657 00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:59.160 Sebastian stan and and other people in the cast and whatnot, 658 00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:02.039 and even Florence. And then as he's walking off to 659 00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:04.519 the side later to get out of costume, he's like, 660 00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:07.720 I can't believe that Florence pew, she's a and you know, 661 00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:10.839 says some other says something the matter and whatnot. So 662 00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:14.119 he was so much fun to see him like ham 663 00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:18.319 it up in character like that, and yeah, just it's 664 00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:21.119 always fun. When ever the actors, whenever they show up 665 00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:24.119 someone in character, at least in costume, it's always a delight, 666 00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:26.559 and you know, it's part of the whole thing. Here's 667 00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:28.599 the thing I want to say about Marvel Studios as 668 00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:31.559 a whole with their whole age panels, and I think 669 00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:35.839 not everyone. I don't know why this doesn't get communicated 670 00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:41.039 more often. Marvel Studios treats their hall age panel. They 671 00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:43.519 treat it like a rock concert, like they really do. 672 00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:47.640 They're trying to create that same sense of excitement of 673 00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:51.039 you're there to see this really unique performance that you're 674 00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:52.839 not going to see anywhere else, and it says this 675 00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:56.240 unique window of time in this unique spot. And you know, 676 00:33:56.519 --> 00:33:59.079 I do believe Kevin Figy is a showman. You know, 677 00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:01.279 he's not the one in all the time or even 678 00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:03.079 the majority of the time on the panel, but he 679 00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:05.279 knows how to work the crowd, he knows how to hype, 680 00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:08.039 he knows how to build excitement and connect with the 681 00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:10.880 audience that way. So I really do think this is 682 00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:14.760 all the presentation and the way that actors come on stage, 683 00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:17.639 some showing up in costumes, some not, or the way 684 00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:21.000 they show footage or then they announce certain character reveals. 685 00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:22.719 It is all part of the whole thing of like 686 00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:26.159 it's creating this rock concert feel of an experience when you're. 687 00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:29.039 There, and that would make sense. I mean, Travis, what 688 00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:30.239 do you kind of feel about that? I think that's 689 00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:31.400 a pretty accurate statement. 690 00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:34.840 That's basically what you want for his DCC if I'm 691 00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:36.760 being asked with you just to be have a shared 692 00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:38.519 experience like that rock concert. 693 00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:39.519 Same thing with movies. 694 00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:42.320 He knows when he speaks about movies, he talks about 695 00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:44.840 the shared experience, So it would make sense carry that 696 00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:48.599 he makes extra effort to ensure that's like quite. 697 00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:49.199 An experience for people. 698 00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:52.000 This might be the one time you get to Hollege. 699 00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:54.039 Some people might not go every time. So I'm sure 700 00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:55.440 he's cognizant of that as well. 701 00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:57.039 Yeah for sure. 702 00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:01.079 But yeah, so Thunderbolts, what the footage they showed you? 703 00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:04.599 The footage they showed it starts off you might even 704 00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:06.760 you might have somebody written for the help with it, 705 00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:10.920 but like it starts off with Yolena going and finding 706 00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:13.480 her father and he's kind of been into shovel apartment 707 00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:14.840 and you're living on his own kind of like a 708 00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:17.519 slob and he tries to clean the place up when 709 00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:20.480 he realizes it's her at the door, and she proceeds 710 00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:22.239 to say, I need you to help me with something, 711 00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.840 and I forget what other things that she says. But 712 00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:28.519 then it kind of cuts to this series of kind 713 00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:32.840 of checking in with the various characters like you like 714 00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:41.519 John Walker, who else Winter Soldier? And then it ultimately 715 00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:48.400 coalesces into all the majority of the characters showing up 716 00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:52.000 in one room with each other. No one knows who 717 00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:53.760 they are, they don't they've never met each other, never 718 00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:56.119 encounter each other, and of course it's just a fight ensues, 719 00:35:56.480 --> 00:36:00.280 a big, big group fight of them all fighting each 720 00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:02.320 other from one angle and the other, going from one 721 00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:05.880 opponent to the next, not really realizing but the room 722 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.639 was like closed up, so they're kind of caught and 723 00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:13.599 trapped in there, and and I think eventually the room 724 00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:16.079 opens up a little bit and then all, yeah, ghosts 725 00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:17.800 shows up and so yeah, no one knows what to 726 00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:22.360 do with ghosts because of her power set. So it's 727 00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:28.480 just such cool like it there definitely feels very you know. 728 00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:33.159 The thing I always liked about the Black Widow movie 729 00:36:33.159 --> 00:36:35.719 and the action in the Black Widow movie or even 730 00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:38.719 Winter Soldier Captain America, the Winter Soldier. I love that, 731 00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:42.280 like Jason, that Bourne identity style, fighting, of that kind 732 00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:46.079 of choreography, and that level of visceral intensity that is 733 00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:49.760 very much echoed and matched here among the various characters 734 00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:51.599 of The Thunderbolts, at least in that first scene when 735 00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:54.360 they're all kind of, you know, brought together. They don't 736 00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:57.280 know why they're they're They're each kind of there for 737 00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:00.360 one reason that the other person doesn't know about. And 738 00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:04.800 I think it's ultimately Valentina's schemes of getting them all together. 739 00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:06.960 And oh, you can't you can't even say her name, 740 00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:07.960 you can't even think it. 741 00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:12.719 I didn't call her, you know, I said, I said Valentina, 742 00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:13.119 So I. 743 00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:17.679 Followed, that's even crossing the line, that just even cross. No, 744 00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:19.760 you can't even think it, can't say it, can't think it, 745 00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:21.320 don't even acknowledge it at that point. 746 00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:23.159 Julia Louis Dreif is a character. 747 00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:25.039 There you go. 748 00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:27.639 She shows up on screen and then proceeds to start 749 00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:29.440 talking to them. I can't remember the specifics of what 750 00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:30.199 she said. 751 00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:33.159 Yeah she I think she says something to the effect 752 00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:36.400 of from what I'm looking at here, and what I 753 00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:39.360 remember from other descriptions of it, like she says, you know, 754 00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:44.800 you're not good guys, You're not they're good guys, and 755 00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:49.400 then there's bad guys, and then there's worse and you 756 00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:53.800 are not good and you know, so basically everyone keeps 757 00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:57.599 up saying, oh, this is Marvel's version of the Suicide Squad. Yeah, 758 00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:00.840 kind of in a way it is. In a way 759 00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:01.599 it isn't. 760 00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:06.039 More established characters like characters we've seen before in them. 761 00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:08.480 We'll put those in quotes to what we've. 762 00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:12.400 Seen, sorry, characters reappearing characters, whereas in Suicide By the 763 00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:14.920 first one or the second one, well, besides a couple 764 00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:17.920 Harley Quinn and Boomerang, but for the most part and 765 00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:19.440 Captain flat Air Joe. 766 00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:22.000 It's sort of the idea of like taking these characters 767 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:26.280 that are have been supporting characters in other movies and 768 00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:29.320 maybe like lesser known characters and just kind of throwing 769 00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:31.599 them in this big melting pot and sort of seeing 770 00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:34.760 the stew that that comes out of it. I'm really 771 00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:36.840 excited for because I mean, I'm looking forward to even 772 00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:39.000 that this wasn't in the footage. This is just my 773 00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:42.920 own speculation of you know, what's the conversation between Yolena 774 00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:47.519 and Bucky gonna be like, well. 775 00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:49.119 William then and Chad at that point he said he 776 00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:52.239 was attacked by Carrie and he demands, justin what did 777 00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:53.280 you do to William? 778 00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:55.639 I just you know, he was I think there was 779 00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:58.440 a line. It wasn't the normal studios panel it was. 780 00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:01.000 It was I think it was trying to get into 781 00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:04.960 the Jim Lee spotlight panel. And I was just he 782 00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:06.559 was I think he was either honest, but his face 783 00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:08.559 was down. And then I went up to him. I 784 00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:09.960 was like, hey, man, I might have tapped him on 785 00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:12.320 the shoulder or something like that kind of took him 786 00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:12.920 by surprise. 787 00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:20.280 So good to see William. Yeah, but it was the 788 00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:22.239 other part of the footage they talked about was Buck 789 00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.519 entering a courtroom US agent looks at news articles about himself, 790 00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:28.920 you know, disc you know, discount of Steve Rogers, discount 791 00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:35.199 Captain America Lan another Hallway fight, remnisson of Iron Man two, 792 00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:38.519 Black Widow fight. We see ghost so I mean, we 793 00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:42.360 see Bob entering wearing a hospital gown. So they're still 794 00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:46.920 not acknowledging that Lewis Pullman is a century They still 795 00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:50.400 not acknowledging that even though everything we know is pretty 796 00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:53.559 much pointing to that signal outside of the firm up nature, 797 00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:58.320 but it is I'm curious. I mean, Century is kind 798 00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:03.880 of an interesting character to bring into the MCU, especially 799 00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:08.239 with the you know, his condition as it were, So 800 00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:11.199 it's gonna be interesting to see exactly this team possibly 801 00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:15.519 going toe to toe with the Century, which is what 802 00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:21.360 I'm basically kind of feeling, is you know, inevitable in 803 00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:22.039 this movie. 804 00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:25.320 It seemed to me like because he introduces himself as 805 00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:28.000 Bob and they're like Bob, He's like just Bob or whatever. 806 00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:30.760 I feel like that was kind of, at least for 807 00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:33.440 the audience, kind of a throwback to his character in 808 00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:36.800 Top Gun Maverick and just kind of the idea of like, oh, 809 00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:40.159 there's there's really nothing, you know, he's trying to present 810 00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:41.800 it as what you see is what you get, sort 811 00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:44.679 of a thing like there's really no era of mis Well, 812 00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:46.559 obviously we know there's more mystery to him in this 813 00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:48.880 with Thunderbolts, but you know, on that Top of Maverick, 814 00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:51.320 he's just Bob. He's a regular guy. 815 00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:51.559 You know. 816 00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:53.639 So I feel like they're trying to put on that site. 817 00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:57.679 They're trying to frame it in that same mindset here. 818 00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:01.119 And also Lewis Pullman, he didn't he didn't say anything 819 00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:03.880 on stage, like he didn't answer the questions or anything 820 00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:05.400 like that. He was just there to wave and smile. 821 00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:11.480 But so what do you think about this? Travis from 822 00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:13.760 Twip saying, is is Bob the target that each of 823 00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:14.840 the Thunderbolts are after? 824 00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:20.760 That would make sense to if because it could be 825 00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:23.400 the one that Helene is after, because she could be 826 00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:25.920 trying to carry it a contract and that might bring 827 00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:28.360 her into this whole thing. It sounds like Valves just 828 00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:30.039 trying to assemble them to go after her. But I 829 00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:31.960 do think some of these characters could be going after 830 00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:36.920 her initially, initially going after Bob initially before the Thunderbolts 831 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:37.960 get into action. 832 00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:41.559 Yeah, and William says Claire forgot he was on his 833 00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:44.000 way to the DC all Access Chanda when you were 834 00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:49.840 costed and you better be careful, Carrie, you know lawsuits 835 00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:50.400 may be coming. 836 00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:53.079 Well he's bigger than you, so. 837 00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:57.880 But yeah, I would say, like all in all, my 838 00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:01.519 level right now, my level between both of the like 839 00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:05.480 Brave New World and Thunderbolts Brave New Roles is a 840 00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:08.000 step above right now with underbus I'm curious about Thunderbolts. 841 00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:10.679 I'm I'm not one of these people. Oh, they are 842 00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:12.760 a whole group of people that have all the same, 843 00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:15.159 like all the similar kind of things like that doesn't 844 00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:18.000 necessarily you know, you're not missing it wrong, But that's 845 00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:19.960 kind of low hanging fruit. I'm just more of like, 846 00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:24.320 what's bringing them together, what's the big story and how 847 00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:26.920 is this connecting to the overall kind of MCU of 848 00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:29.480 where it is, because right now this is not something 849 00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:31.199 that in my opinion, right now, I don't see how 850 00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:34.440 it connects to the multiverse saga I right now, see 851 00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:37.320 I'm very curious to see what the asterisks is supposed 852 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:41.079 to reveal. My big thing is is asterisk dark Avengers. 853 00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:45.599 You know, this is the most Avengers like movie that 854 00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:49.039 we've had in since the end of PA three. 855 00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:49.639 You know. 856 00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:55.239 So yeah, they didn't, Yeah, they didn't specify this in 857 00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:57.960 the Brave New World footage. They did show talk about 858 00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:01.440 They did show Ross talking to Sam about creating a 859 00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:05.199 new Avengers team of some kind, so did they did? 860 00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:07.360 They did have that conversation the middle that footage, So 861 00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:09.679 just kind of knowing where these things are in sequence 862 00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:12.280 with each other. It seems to me like, you know, 863 00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:15.840 Ross wants to get Captain America back in play. He 864 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:19.519 wants an Avengers team, and then at the same time, 865 00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:28.199 Valentina de Fontaine what however her complete name, She's taken 866 00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:31.519 it upon herself to form her own team because she's 867 00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:34.239 been able to make connections between all these people in 868 00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:38.079 her own way. So I feel like they're both of 869 00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:40.920 them independent of each other, are trying to sort of 870 00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:44.199 like answer the question of where are the Avengers. Who 871 00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:46.679 are the Avengers post end game? You know, who are 872 00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:47.039 the people? 873 00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:49.280 But he knows and we're still not going to know 874 00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:50.280 by the end of this year. 875 00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:51.079 Yeah, but no. 876 00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:55.159 But but even within the even within the narrative of 877 00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:58.000 the Marvel Cinematic universe, I feel like the Thunderbolts is 878 00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:02.360 sort of attempting to address that. Oh yeah, their own degrees, 879 00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:04.559 I agree, And going back to what he said, like, 880 00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:07.280 you know, not worrying about the you know, I'm not 881 00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:10.320 stressing about the fact that they they're what their different 882 00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:11.840 power sets are. A lot of them are you know, 883 00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:14.639 kind of winter or kind of you know, inter soldiery 884 00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:19.320 like or very super spied like Yeah. Yeah, but like 885 00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:22.199 I'm interested in seeing like is Yelena below, We're gonna 886 00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:25.480 look at Bucky and say, you're the one who tried 887 00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:28.880 to shoot my sister. Yeah, like you know, or you 888 00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:32.039 try to kill my sister multiple times and like it's 889 00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:35.559 like you say, you're not that guy anymore. But I 890 00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:38.480 don't know, you know, So I'm looking forward to like 891 00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:40.920 that kind of dynamic or you know, it's like, oh, 892 00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:43.400 you were you know Red guardment, like you were Captain 893 00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:46.920 America's best friend on him about his war stories and 894 00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:50.559 like he's going like, dude, you were never there or 895 00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:54.199 something to that effect. So I'm just really interested in 896 00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:57.840 this melting pot of personalities and the character dynamics that's 897 00:44:57.840 --> 00:44:59.199 gonna ensue U. 898 00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:00.480 Yeah. 899 00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:02.639 The footage definitely got me exciting and got me interested. 900 00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:04.760 Like I'm very curious. I very much want to see this. 901 00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:09.639 It'll be really cool to go from from Brave New 902 00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:12.440 World into this. I think that's kind of a natural sequence. 903 00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:15.519 Yeah, Johnny Sagam in the chat saying Julie lwithz Drif's 904 00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:18.079 character probably lied to all of them to get each 905 00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:20.039 one of them to do the job, and their survival 906 00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:21.920 is the trap to test them to join the Thunders. 907 00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:22.679 I would agree with that. 908 00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:23.239 What do you got? 909 00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:26.719 Also, she also capitalized on a lot of these people 910 00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:29.440 when they were at the lowest too, So like did 911 00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:31.280 she she didn't have to pitch a lot of them 912 00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:32.400 like the US agent. 913 00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:34.920 He didn't have anywhere else to go. He was going 914 00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:37.159 to jail essentially exactly. 915 00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:40.000 So yeah, but yeah, it'll be it'll be interesting to 916 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:41.599 see at that point. But we're gonna take her first 917 00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:44.079 ad break before we get break down the last two 918 00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:49.599 panels of the of the SDCC panels, So listeners, these 919 00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:51.760 ads help keep the lights on a Gee Ultimate Alliance Network. 920 00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:53.199 We don't get to choose what ads come on, and 921 00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:54.599 they could be a bit, so we give it that 922 00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:57.639 three count before they come on. Three two one, we'll 923 00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:02.159 be right back and we are back, all right. So 924 00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:07.159 the Fantastic Four, that's what we learned. That's what we 925 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:10.320 knew the movie was gonna be titled. And then we 926 00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:13.599 got the title after the footage was shown as The 927 00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:18.079 Fantastic Four First Steps. And if I had to say 928 00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:21.480 a big miss right now of this of this entire 929 00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:25.440 panel that landed with a big thud and a fart 930 00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:30.440 and the wind was that title that subtitle I the 931 00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:33.760 First Steps. I said, well, I'm okay with them. I 932 00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:37.000 totally get why they needed to do a subtitle when 933 00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:40.079 this would be the fourth movie of third or fourth 934 00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:42.440 movie with that, you know, the Fantastic Four. You just 935 00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:44.360 want to get tired of put the years by it. 936 00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:47.119 So I'm okay with a subtitle. And I'm sure the 937 00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:49.239 first steps, meaning in the sense of like the first 938 00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:51.119 steps of what they're doing and things like that, it's 939 00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:53.760 gonna be some it's gonna make sense. But I would 940 00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:56.119 list I would have been totally I think there are 941 00:46:56.119 --> 00:46:58.519 better subtitles, and this, in my opinion, would have been 942 00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:01.960 the First Family, you know, or something along the lines 943 00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:06.320 of that, or even Fantastic or Flame On or you know, 944 00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:09.559 so something along the law, something along the line. But 945 00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:12.360 I would have been fine with the First Family. So 946 00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:17.119 but uh, kind of what you uh? What did would 947 00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:18.719 you kind of see? I know, I think this is 948 00:47:18.760 --> 00:47:21.119 the one that a lot of us saw people leaking 949 00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:23.199 the footage out, So I think, you know, Travis has 950 00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:24.599 seen that, I've seen it. You know, we got our 951 00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:28.559 first look at Galactus h very quickly. I am more 952 00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:34.320 shocked knowing that they started getting together, Like, well, was 953 00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:40.239 it like Tuesday, Monday or Tuesday before SDCC that they started. 954 00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:42.679 I think it was the previous weekend. Actually they were 955 00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:46.159 starting uh filming and they got to London even though 956 00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:48.440 we were told they weren't going to start principal photography 957 00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:51.719 until the Monday or Tuesday after SDC, So they were 958 00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:55.440 doing something and they assembled something like that. That shows 959 00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:58.519 me that they've known exactly what they were getting ready 960 00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:01.880 to do and that this is more put together than 961 00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:02.559 people think. 962 00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:07.360 Oh yeah, they're definitely pre vid stuff done to this 963 00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:10.199 and already ideas of what they want to do, like 964 00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:13.880 they had the story locked in live before they decided 965 00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:14.280 to do this. 966 00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:15.559 So I agree with you. 967 00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:18.639 Christ if I had definitely done a lot of legwork 968 00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:22.239 before starting this, how about you care. 969 00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:23.440 Based on what you saw on the floor. 970 00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:26.159 I mean, honestly, I was really impressed by what they 971 00:48:26.199 --> 00:48:28.199 showed as far as the footage goes, because I didn't 972 00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:31.800 expect anything. I expected some images of concept art, like 973 00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:32.440 I think. 974 00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:33.719 And the cast. We got the cast. 975 00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:35.320 We got the cast coming out, which I was like, 976 00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:38.840 that's all I anticipated with what they would do is 977 00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:40.519 just bring the cast out and have them talk about 978 00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:42.639 their roles a little bit and say yeah, we're excited 979 00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:44.360 to start filming, and then kind of that be that. 980 00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:48.039 But the fact that they had a test real which 981 00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:53.039 really did it felt like a legit teaser to me. Yeah, 982 00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:55.840 it had the I'm surprising. I didn't know I'd gotten leaked. 983 00:48:56.679 --> 00:48:59.360 There were definitely a number of people either taking screenshots 984 00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:01.440 and I definitely said it was like three or four 985 00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:04.480 different angles of the full thing. 986 00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:07.079 Okay, So I got on TikTok and it was there. 987 00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:09.519 The full trailer was on there, like okay, like my 988 00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:10.079 second thing. 989 00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:10.880 I scrolled it was like. 990 00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:13.079 You played by the rules care We appreciate that. 991 00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:16.079 Yeah, but hey, I say, you know what, you want 992 00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:18.599 to put out a lesser, lesser quality version of it. 993 00:49:18.639 --> 00:49:20.079 I got to see it on a big screen with 994 00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:21.079 amazing sounds, so. 995 00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:23.840 I with the descriptions for all three trailers, so it 996 00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:26.440 didn't matter as much, but I'm like, okay, what is. 997 00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:31.519 This it was really having. What was really cool I 998 00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:38.079 thought was like it had that nineteen sixties TV grain, 999 00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:40.480 Like if you're watching a television set you know back 1000 00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:41.960 in the back in that time, you know, it would 1001 00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:44.199 have that kind of grainy look and feel to it 1002 00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:46.880 just because that's that's how those TVs worked or whatever. 1003 00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:49.239 So it was kind of neat that I was filmed 1004 00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:51.960 in that fashion. Uh, you know, you got read Richard's 1005 00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.840 teaching a classroom, of teaching physics in the classroom to 1006 00:49:55.880 --> 00:49:58.840 some degree, you're showing them and you didn't see them 1007 00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:00.920 in there. I don't remember the showing them in their 1008 00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:02.440 Fantastic Four costumes. 1009 00:50:03.079 --> 00:50:06.280 Yeah, I don't. I think, yeah, they they've definitely kept that. 1010 00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:08.239 I don't think they're ready to show that. I think 1011 00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:12.119 that's going to be probably our first official either that's 1012 00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:15.440 gonna leak out of set footage or that they're going 1013 00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:17.559 to keep that interrapted until the first real teaser. 1014 00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:19.920 Yeah, but I mean seeing them they get getting into 1015 00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:25.000 the space suits to go off onto the launch, launching 1016 00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:26.760 in a space that they're going to do, seeing the 1017 00:50:26.840 --> 00:50:32.880 general dynamics between the various members, and especially seeing Read 1018 00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:35.519 talk about you know, Ben Grimm and saying Ben Grimm's like, 1019 00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:38.280 you know, the best pilot he's ever known. I think 1020 00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:41.039 that was part of the footage there. And yeah, just 1021 00:50:41.079 --> 00:50:44.159 the very just the tone of it was was cool, 1022 00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:45.800 and I was like, I was just so impressed. I'm 1023 00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:47.760 like because it was a good two to three minute 1024 00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:50.559 long reel that they showed us, so kind of what 1025 00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:54.440 you just mentioned, like the fact that they filmed what 1026 00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:56.519 just seems like almost like this is like the test 1027 00:50:56.519 --> 00:50:59.320 footage of them, you know, of the characters interactor or 1028 00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:01.440 maybe them or maybe this is like, hey, we are 1029 00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:04.400 going to do some kind of pre production filming that's 1030 00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:06.119 not going to be part of the movie, but we're 1031 00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:09.320 filming it specifically for Comic Con and then incorporating some 1032 00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:13.440 of the other like the tag. Like the last shot 1033 00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:16.760 of that footage is probably what you has been seen 1034 00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:21.280 and talked about, is like just like this, like the 1035 00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:24.880 upper half of Galactus's face like lower himself down and 1036 00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:27.800 peering into like the window of a building of some kind. 1037 00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.639 And when that shot happened and everyone was like. 1038 00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:34.239 You, I mean, hey, we don't get a fart cloud anymore. 1039 00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:37.440 So the fact that we see but I mean, the 1040 00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:41.440 voice of who Galactus is gonna be? Man, I'm sorry, 1041 00:51:41.559 --> 00:51:44.800 I loved it in The Green Night Man. He is 1042 00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:48.840 going he is a perfect casting for the voice of Galactus. 1043 00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:54.239 I agree. Yeah, Oh sorry, go ahead, no, go ahead, No, 1044 00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:56.960 I was just gonna say just the I was kind 1045 00:51:56.960 --> 00:51:58.880 of like shoot the footage they shows, I want that 1046 00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:02.239 to be in the movie. I hope at the very 1047 00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:05.400 least they included as a special feature, uh, you know 1048 00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:08.440 for Disney Plus or Blu Ray, you know, feature it 1049 00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:10.719 or something like that. So but I mean, I think 1050 00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:13.679 you're I think you're spot on that. Like they've known, 1051 00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:16.400 they've had this cast for a long time. They've known, 1052 00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:20.119 and they've behind the scenes secretly without you know, been 1053 00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:22.920 able to cobble together this you know, bit of filming 1054 00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:25.360 and test footage and kind of maybe this is what 1055 00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:28.159 they were putting together or maybe this was a Matt 1056 00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:30.440 Scheckman trying to put together something to say, this is 1057 00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:32.960 the vibe and the tone and the field what we're 1058 00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:35.199 going for with this movie. Even if this isn't the 1059 00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:38.079 actual this isn't what we're actually gonna start filming, you 1060 00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:38.559 know now. 1061 00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:42.719 So so do you think the whole movie Travis from 1062 00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:45.400 foot Media saying, do you think the whole movie will 1063 00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:47.880 be in four to three and have that retro grain 1064 00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:49.199 or do you think this was just kind of an 1065 00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:52.039 aesthetic choice just for they may put this in trailers, 1066 00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:53.639 but that's not how the movie is actually going to 1067 00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:54.639 be I'd. 1068 00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:56.559 Put my body as they put They're just gonna put 1069 00:52:56.559 --> 00:52:58.480 it in trailer. It's gonna be power of the marketing. 1070 00:52:58.559 --> 00:52:59.960 The whole power of the marketing is gonna be this 1071 00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:00.800 sixty vibes. 1072 00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:03.320 I could I could see it maybe like in the 1073 00:53:03.320 --> 00:53:06.599 first few minutes of the movie, kind of in the 1074 00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:08.840 same way that like the this in the Iron Man two, 1075 00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:11.000 you had the Stark Expo with you know, footage of 1076 00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:13.920 Howard Stark talking about the Stark Expo when he first 1077 00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:15.760 you know, set it up and whatnot. So I could 1078 00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:17.800 see them doing that kind of thing to kind of 1079 00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:20.639 sort of help bring you in the world, because it 1080 00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:24.320 does have that nineteen sixties retro fuel, like the way 1081 00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:26.719 that people in the you know sixties imagined what the 1082 00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:29.079 future would be like, like when you go to Disneyland 1083 00:53:29.159 --> 00:53:30.880 or Disney World and you go to tomorrow Land and 1084 00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:32.920 the ascetic of what the future kind of looked like 1085 00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:36.840 when the park was originally built, or the Jetsons. You know, 1086 00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:39.760 it's got it's got that feel, it's got that aesthetic 1087 00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:41.960 to it, that new the New York skyline that they're 1088 00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:44.519 going for and the nature of technology. So it's the 1089 00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:46.559 kind of thing that you know Howard Stark wish could 1090 00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:49.119 have in the in the you know, in the six 1091 00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:52.360 one six MCU Howard Stark wish could have happened in 1092 00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:55.400 the next ten twenty years but didn't actually pan out 1093 00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:58.639 that way, but it did on this earth. So yeah, 1094 00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:00.960 I just I think the foot As really captures that 1095 00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:02.760 unique thing, and I hope, I imagine they'll probably be 1096 00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:04.480 something in the beginning of the movie that kind of 1097 00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:07.360 shows that to just try to really and that'll be 1098 00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:10.679 their way to really tell the audience that, like, this 1099 00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:12.840 is part of the multiverse. This is not the same 1100 00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:16.400 as where phases one through three or phrase four even 1101 00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:19.360 took place. This is a completely new world and get 1102 00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:21.400 ready to go along for this really wonderful ride. 1103 00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:24.880 Yeah, I'm very curious in the sense of seeing I 1104 00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:26.880 got excited for the movie. I mean, I'm not gonna lie, 1105 00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:30.960 but I am not a Fantastic Four uber fan. It's 1106 00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:33.880 definitely one of those that you'll probably you don't see 1107 00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:36.360 my collection just because I read them. I like them, 1108 00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:39.000 but it's not one that's saying, oh, I love the 1109 00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:42.920 Fantastic Four. I read them enough to know a lot 1110 00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:46.599 about them, but it's not a part of my best 1111 00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:48.360 favorite parts of Marvel. 1112 00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:51.559 Yeah, my exposure is mostly just like the nineties animated 1113 00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:54.880 series that ran for a brief period alongside the Iron 1114 00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:55.519 Man series. 1115 00:54:56.199 --> 00:54:58.800 They did a really good animated series I want to 1116 00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:02.360 say between two in twenty ten that was I think 1117 00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:04.119 it was just one season, might be two. 1118 00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:05.480 That was really good. 1119 00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:08.519 There was a lot of good polls there and took 1120 00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:09.360 it quite serious. 1121 00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:11.519 It was nice. And I'm sure you guys have talked 1122 00:55:11.519 --> 00:55:13.119 about this to some of or another, like, I mean, 1123 00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:17.920 you know, I like the first two you know, Fantastic 1124 00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:20.760 four movies at Fox with you know, Jessica Alba and 1125 00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:27.679 and Vic Mackie from The Shield, Michael Chickliss. You know, 1126 00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:29.599 I like those movies well enough. 1127 00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:34.000 It served the time, It's movies of its time, of 1128 00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:35.639 the of the nineties and there. 1129 00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:38.960 But they were inherently kind of cheesy too also, and 1130 00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:40.719 I don't I don't think you needed to be. And 1131 00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:43.639 so I really kind of I'm looking forward to the 1132 00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:48.199 level of sincerity that that Marvels always had with their 1133 00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:50.079 projects that they're going to bring to it while still 1134 00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:53.559 you know, being in this retro sixties timeline and and 1135 00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:56.159 you know, being that first family and that's the thing 1136 00:55:56.159 --> 00:55:59.920 that cast very much mentioned. They talked a lot about 1137 00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:02.519 this is a family. This is that makes them a 1138 00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:06.440 really unique dynamic as opposed to like any other teams 1139 00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:07.719 that have been put together. 1140 00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:12.280 Well, and I think the big thing that we've I've said, 1141 00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:13.760 and I'm not the only one who's said this, I 1142 00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:17.320 can't essarily a claim to it, is that we've had 1143 00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:20.639 We've had a great Fantastic four movie. It's called The Incredibles. 1144 00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:25.639 And even even Michael Giacchino Giachino even brown up that 1145 00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:28.320 point because he's the composer for it, and he says, 1146 00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:35.840 I really have to find a way to differentiate, which 1147 00:56:35.840 --> 00:56:38.559 I know he's an amazing composer and director within his 1148 00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:40.840 own right that he's going to find a way. But 1149 00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:42.639 I can understand, like he's the one who did that 1150 00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:44.760 and that music and that one. He was there composer, 1151 00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:46.880 so he kind of put forth that effort, so now 1152 00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:48.800 he has to differentiate that and make it its own 1153 00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:50.599 unique thing. And we did kind of get that hint 1154 00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:53.599 for you, uh with kind of the music that was 1155 00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:56.360 hat for the Drone Show, So we do see that. 1156 00:56:56.480 --> 00:57:00.119 But William and the Chad saying I have more of 1157 00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:04.199 an event event feeld for Fantastic Four that just began shooting. 1158 00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:09.679 Then I do Superman, which is just wrapped so up. 1159 00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:12.800 You can't put a you can't do a panel. 1160 00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:16.440 It's just not possible for people to in the middle 1161 00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:19.760 of shooting to take a day off and come and 1162 00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:21.840 do a panel and show even just a clip of 1163 00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:22.719 Superman flying. 1164 00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:26.599 It's just too much. It is too much, just too much, William. 1165 00:57:26.639 --> 00:57:30.159 Yeah, and you're You're not wrong. You're not wrong William 1166 00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:30.400 at all. 1167 00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:33.400 You're definitely marketing one O one William, but common sense 1168 00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:33.960 one on one. 1169 00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:34.679 Why would you know? 1170 00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:40.559 We've heard enough of William. He is our marketer in 1171 00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:43.119 the house on the vodka stream at that point. He he, 1172 00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:46.480 He's got everyone's number when it comes to how you 1173 00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:49.840 appropriately do this stuff. So I trust William and I 1174 00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:51.000 agree with him on this point. 1175 00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:53.760 Oh yeah, and you know, it's not like it's not 1176 00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:55.679 like you didn't do it for another for It's not 1177 00:57:55.719 --> 00:57:57.840 like that didn't happen for another Cosmic group back in 1178 00:57:58.079 --> 00:58:02.000 twenty thirteen for all Age. Anyways. 1179 00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:06.679 Yeah, so let's get to the final the final part. 1180 00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:10.360 Before that, though, I have to talk about how as 1181 00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:12.199 they were wrapping up and they said, Okay, these guys, 1182 00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:13.880 you guys got to get back to London and go 1183 00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:19.400 start filming, and and they brought in the Fantastic car. Yeah, 1184 00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:23.280 and it is actually like hovering inside of Hall h 1185 00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:26.920 you know, I couldn't see the wires necessarily, but like, yeah, 1186 00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:30.119 comes in from the side and then kind of hovers 1187 00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:33.960 over over the stage and whatnot. So just the fact 1188 00:58:33.960 --> 00:58:37.360 that that's how they decided to cap the Fantastic four panels, 1189 00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:40.280 like by having like a hover car actually floating above 1190 00:58:40.320 --> 00:58:43.559 the audience there in hally Ah just was it was. 1191 00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:45.280 It was wonderful, It was it was magic. 1192 00:58:47.480 --> 00:58:49.920 What I'm saying, I just threw up in my mouth. 1193 00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:55.480 With the Incredibles, You're welcome. William absolutely like he's gonna 1194 00:58:55.559 --> 00:58:56.320 he's gonna crush it. 1195 00:58:56.360 --> 00:59:00.559 He is, and I really do think it. And also 1196 00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:02.559 like just the pairing of Matt Shackman with what he 1197 00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:05.440 did with one division, him directing the the FF this 1198 00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:10.039 cast they have and Giacchino, like just all the elements 1199 00:59:10.079 --> 00:59:12.039 of like this just is going to come together to 1200 00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:13.480 be something I think really really. 1201 00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:16.320 Special, That's what I'm saying. Imagine they had Herbie come 1202 00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:18.199 out there and escort the cast out stage, kind of 1203 00:59:18.199 --> 00:59:20.039 like RTG two in the Hall. Yeah, I mean we're 1204 00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:22.159 all waiting to see exactly who is going to be 1205 00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:23.199 the voice of Herbie. 1206 00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:26.239 So we've got they couldn't put him. 1207 00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:30.719 They couldn't put Johnny in one of the animated series 1208 00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:32.880 back in the day because he would flame on, so 1209 00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:36.280 they put the roboty in. Yeah, as as the fourth person. 1210 00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:39.679 That was a good way to end it. That that 1211 00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:43.559 what really was. And so we we end with the 1212 00:59:43.920 --> 00:59:47.000 big announcement at that point that had leaked earlier in 1213 00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:49.880 the week that the Russo's are coming back to Marvel. 1214 00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:53.480 Uh Ifigy brings him on stage, and they are not 1215 00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:56.239 only just going to be direct there directing both Avengers 1216 00:59:56.239 --> 00:59:59.719 movie kind of how they did before. We get the 1217 01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:03.039 new title for Avengers five no longer the King Dynasty, 1218 01:00:03.039 --> 01:00:06.920 it is now called Doomsday, and then Avenger Secret Wars 1219 01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:09.280 is still Avenger Secret Wars, but with Doomsday would get 1220 01:00:09.280 --> 01:00:12.440 this green light going all over at that point, and 1221 01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:14.480 they made the statement like, you know, it's one of 1222 01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:19.079 Marvel's most illustrious and most celebrated characters ever. And I 1223 01:00:19.079 --> 01:00:21.679 think when it said that the hall was turning green, 1224 01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:23.760 I hadn't seen the title yet, so I said, the 1225 01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:25.760 halls turning green? Are we talked about the Hulk? You know, 1226 01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:28.039 it's a celebrated character. I don't know if we've heard 1227 01:00:28.119 --> 01:00:30.800 rumors of World War Hulk. I hadn't seen the title yet. 1228 01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:32.800 A Doomsday. Oh, they're talked about Doom and then they 1229 01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:35.599 bring all these do I mean, what was it like 1230 01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:38.440 to seeing, you know, after the Risks come on, Like 1231 01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:42.039 you see all these basically doom bots or doom like 1232 01:00:42.079 --> 01:00:44.800 bots at that point come on stage. Did you think 1233 01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:47.000 you were going to get the like a reveal of 1234 01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:48.199 who Doom was going to be? 1235 01:00:48.800 --> 01:00:52.920 Well, this just shows you that they how well they 1236 01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:56.239 know how to put on a show. They set all 1237 01:00:56.280 --> 01:00:58.679 the pieces of this up perfectly. So we're already on 1238 01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:02.480 a high from the previous three movies right that they 1239 01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:04.840 announced and talked about in the cast being out. And 1240 01:01:04.880 --> 01:01:08.679 then they have the kind of a clip reel of 1241 01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:13.159 the four Russo brothers MCU movies, uh to say, yeah, 1242 01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:15.519 the Russo's are back. The Russo's come out on stage, 1243 01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:18.599 and then they talk about how they really did think 1244 01:01:18.679 --> 01:01:20.719 that after Avengers End Game that they were done, that 1245 01:01:20.760 --> 01:01:24.400 they were they were emotionally and even as a fan, 1246 01:01:24.440 --> 01:01:26.599 as just as fans, they were tapped out. They put all, 1247 01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:29.199 they put everything they had into Avengers Intrenia or an 1248 01:01:29.199 --> 01:01:31.119 Avengers endgame, and I think the proof is in the 1249 01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:35.159 pudding on the screen. So they did say we genuinely 1250 01:01:35.159 --> 01:01:38.000 were done, and then the time went by, they did 1251 01:01:38.039 --> 01:01:40.920 some other creative things and it's just and then the 1252 01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:43.679 opportunity of the conversation circle back to them and they 1253 01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:46.559 said that we've been masked. Lifelong Marvel Comics fan, and 1254 01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:49.400 Secret Wars was our I think they've said a multiple 1255 01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:51.719 times like the Secret Wars was one of their favorite series, 1256 01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:54.159 or maybe the series that got them introduced to the 1257 01:01:54.159 --> 01:01:58.760 world of Marvel characters and comics. So so they talked. 1258 01:01:58.840 --> 01:02:01.599 So they said the emphasize initially, yes, we're coming, We're 1259 01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:04.280 directing Marvel's Secret Wars. And they said, but there's a 1260 01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:07.679 thing we have before we can tell that story. There's 1261 01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:10.360 a completely other story that we have to tell with 1262 01:02:10.440 --> 01:02:12.639 one of these more or leustrious characters. And then the 1263 01:02:12.719 --> 01:02:16.000 lights kind of go down, you get the green shimmering light, 1264 01:02:16.599 --> 01:02:18.679 and then you get that kind of what felt like 1265 01:02:18.760 --> 01:02:24.960 choral music being being played in the those multiple doctor 1266 01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:30.440 Dooms and costume walking out on stage, and and then 1267 01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:34.400 the Avengers Doomsday logo showing up. The crowd goes nuts. 1268 01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:37.000 Everyone was going like, oh my gosh, yeah, going crazy 1269 01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:41.280 for it, shouting, cheering, and then and then they, you know, 1270 01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:44.639 the lights go back on to Joe and Anthony Russo 1271 01:02:44.679 --> 01:02:48.960 and Kevin Figi, and you know, they and they say, 1272 01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:51.800 you know, they talk about the fact that they're in 1273 01:02:51.800 --> 01:02:58.559 a multiverse and Victor von Doom is such an important 1274 01:02:58.880 --> 01:03:04.239 character within the multiverse that and they did say, they 1275 01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:06.360 did say Victor von Doom, they didn't call him Doctor 1276 01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:11.199 Doom yep. And uh. And then they said, and so 1277 01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:14.760 because of that, we need the greatest, most talented, you know, 1278 01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:18.719 the most important actor, the greatest actor of our generation. Uh, 1279 01:03:18.840 --> 01:03:22.079 there's only one person who could play this character. And then, 1280 01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:23.920 you know, for then one of the Dunes receipts to 1281 01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:27.719 walk forward, pulls off the mask and it's Robert Downey Jr. 1282 01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:31.440 And once, as as expected, the crowd just goes insane 1283 01:03:32.599 --> 01:03:35.199 with excitement and cheers and applause and standing ovations. 1284 01:03:35.199 --> 01:03:39.639 So, yeah, I love his line. New mask, same task 1285 01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:42.079 at that point, And there's something to that thing. That 1286 01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:46.599 says same task there. There is something to that as well. Travis, 1287 01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:49.519 what was your kind of first reaction. You know, I've 1288 01:03:49.559 --> 01:03:52.679 already said my my reactions on Live when it happened, 1289 01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:56.800 I audibly, uh, definitely dropped a little bit of profanity 1290 01:03:56.840 --> 01:03:58.519 at that point, because at the moment I was like, 1291 01:03:58.679 --> 01:04:00.880 I don't I can't believe if that's happening. 1292 01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:02.519 You just echoed my thoughts. 1293 01:04:02.599 --> 01:04:05.880 Chris, I was like, oh my god, I had no idea. 1294 01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:08.800 I'm coming back to one question for Carrie. Was this 1295 01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:12.280 possibly one of the lightest reactions you've ever experienced at 1296 01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:13.440 Holly h Oh. 1297 01:04:13.519 --> 01:04:16.960 Absolutely, it is very much up there. There's probably only 1298 01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:19.519 you know, there's only in my years of going there's 1299 01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:23.400 probably a couple of times where you can, you know, 1300 01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:27.400 I wish I had a decibel meter or some kind 1301 01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:31.239 it gives like, oh, we've got higher decibels on this 1302 01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:34.760 one than this one. But no, like that one probably 1303 01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:38.199 ranks up there with I know for me, the Batman v. 1304 01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:41.039 Superman footage, or like the year one of the years 1305 01:04:41.039 --> 01:04:44.559 I wasn't there when Zack Snyder announced Batman v. Superman 1306 01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:47.599 with you know, Harry Lennox reading a portion from the 1307 01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:51.159 dark Air term the logo reveal, the way the crowd 1308 01:04:51.159 --> 01:04:53.199 was going, ut, it was probably kind of on that level, 1309 01:04:53.239 --> 01:04:56.679 to be honest, I can't remember the excite the crowd 1310 01:04:56.719 --> 01:04:59.519 cheering that loudly in twenty nineteen when they did the 1311 01:04:59.559 --> 01:05:03.280 whole Phase fours slate reveal, But everyone came out of 1312 01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:07.360 that room just like I cannot believe what we're getting 1313 01:05:07.400 --> 01:05:10.760 now posting game and the roadmap that's been laid out 1314 01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:11.920 for us was just so exciting. 1315 01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:15.000 So uh, Flips, asking, did you notice anyone kind of 1316 01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:16.840 visibly disappointed by the reveal? 1317 01:05:17.800 --> 01:05:21.800 Not around me and certainly not that I can discern 1318 01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:24.840 it in the room. I saw reactions online for sure. 1319 01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:31.880 I saw I won't name drop, but like another podcaster 1320 01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:34.960 who you probably have we've you know, listened to at 1321 01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:38.480 various points and focus on Marvel stuff, I'm still waiting 1322 01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:41.159 for us to hear some of his more specific thoughts 1323 01:05:41.519 --> 01:05:44.320 on that on that reveal, But when he was giving 1324 01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:47.760 his live reaction on one of his podcast episodes, he 1325 01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:49.440 was very much just like, I really don't know how 1326 01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:53.079 I feel about this, So so yeah, I'm still waiting 1327 01:05:53.119 --> 01:05:55.320 to hear what his Now that's marinate a little bit 1328 01:05:55.360 --> 01:06:00.400 more just give me my general thoughts on it. Yeah, 1329 01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:05.599 this is one of those situations where you know, I've 1330 01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:07.119 always thought doctor Dum was cool. 1331 01:06:07.480 --> 01:06:07.760 I don't. 1332 01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:10.079 I don't know him super well as the care had 1333 01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:12.400 the action figure from when I was a kid, you know, 1334 01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:14.599 wou'd seeing pop up on cartoons and things like that 1335 01:06:14.679 --> 01:06:16.239 here and there, you know, when he would show up 1336 01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:20.280 in comics and whatnot. I've never had in my mind 1337 01:06:21.079 --> 01:06:23.960 who my perfect fan casting is for him. I've just 1338 01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:27.519 never known specifically who would best capture the the the 1339 01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:31.960 attitude and persona of doctor Doom perfectly. So in that 1340 01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:34.639 so in that sense, Robert Downey Junior doesn't break that, 1341 01:06:34.760 --> 01:06:38.960 but it makes me feel like, well, you know, Robert 1342 01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:43.840 Downey Junior playing Tony Stark was was vain, was egotistical, 1343 01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:49.039 was a narcissistic, was wanting to be in control. Uh, 1344 01:06:49.119 --> 01:06:52.440 And so I don't think he's gonna be like a 1345 01:06:52.480 --> 01:06:56.800 full on variant of Tony Stark. But I think it's 1346 01:06:56.800 --> 01:06:59.800 gonna be a situation of Victor Bond. Doom just happens 1347 01:06:59.840 --> 01:07:03.840 from whatever university comes from, happens to look like Tony 1348 01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:08.320 Stark in the six Month Sixth World. So that's my 1349 01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:10.880 suspicion of how they're going to play it. This ultimately 1350 01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:15.159 comes down to, like, you know what, it's I trust 1351 01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:18.800 the Russo's, I trust Kevin Figee whoever they're going to 1352 01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:21.119 I'm not sure if they've announced the writing team behind 1353 01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:23.039 Doomsday or who's going to. 1354 01:07:23.079 --> 01:07:27.599 Touch m is now going to be the writer of both. 1355 01:07:27.639 --> 01:07:31.679 At that point, Waldron has now been has stepped aside, 1356 01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:32.320 and you. 1357 01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:35.519 Know, mcpheeley has obviously worked closely with Russo brothers from 1358 01:07:35.599 --> 01:07:39.719 multiple times over to a great success. So which the 1359 01:07:39.719 --> 01:07:43.599 other guy which uh uh Marcus was there with it too, 1360 01:07:43.639 --> 01:07:46.679 but who knows the reasons why. I will say, though 1361 01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:48.639 I don't know how much you and guys have talked 1362 01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:53.159 about this, I really as much as I'm open and 1363 01:07:53.199 --> 01:07:56.000 excited for doctor Jum and the role he's going to 1364 01:07:56.039 --> 01:08:01.119 play and whatever they're mapping out, I am kind of 1365 01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:04.079 disappointed isn't the right word, but I'm kind of like 1366 01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:08.960 hoping they don't just literally right off Kang with a 1367 01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:12.000 few lines of dialogue, because that's. 1368 01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:12.400 How he went. 1369 01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:14.159 He went home to his planet like with Pouci. 1370 01:08:15.639 --> 01:08:19.039 See that kind of. 1371 01:08:19.279 --> 01:08:22.159 That's one PC the rock and Dog. 1372 01:08:22.920 --> 01:08:25.439 I mean, okay, well, the other example, Men in Black 1373 01:08:25.479 --> 01:08:29.359 two and how they how they wrote out uh, Linda Fioring. 1374 01:08:29.439 --> 01:08:31.119 I mean the movie wasn't good in general, but like 1375 01:08:31.319 --> 01:08:34.479 you had a cool character with Linda Fiorantino's character as 1376 01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:36.920 as you know Elle, you know, and I liked her 1377 01:08:36.960 --> 01:08:38.960 a lot from the first Man in Black movie and 1378 01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:41.199 they set up to be an am I be agent? 1379 01:08:41.239 --> 01:08:43.920 And then uh uh why where? Why is she not 1380 01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:46.520 in the sequel? Oh she just couldn't hack it, so 1381 01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:48.920 I know, you know, I had to neuralize her. Like 1382 01:08:49.039 --> 01:08:52.279 one line of dialogue explains a way why a character 1383 01:08:52.359 --> 01:08:55.279 is not there when you know all the reasons for 1384 01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:58.680 the characters to be there are still in existence. So yeah, 1385 01:08:58.920 --> 01:09:01.560 for me personally, the the end of Loki season two 1386 01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:04.359 with a line of dialogue is like, oh, we're starting 1387 01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:07.479 to wrap up all the kings now is not going 1388 01:09:07.520 --> 01:09:10.199 to be satisfying for me. So I need to see 1389 01:09:10.239 --> 01:09:12.399 something visually, even if it's only like in the first 1390 01:09:12.439 --> 01:09:15.880 thirty minutes of Avengers Doomsday, Like if they wrap it 1391 01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:18.279 up quick, I mean I just say recast and just 1392 01:09:18.319 --> 01:09:20.239 for the for a hot minute, I mean, whether you 1393 01:09:20.319 --> 01:09:23.039 kill off kings or you dispel like the various members 1394 01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:24.840 of the Council of Kings, like I don't like I've 1395 01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:26.600 never been against the recap. I think the recast said 1396 01:09:26.840 --> 01:09:29.800 action has always been the better option. I just want 1397 01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:32.439 them to I just want to see it visually results 1398 01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:35.479 from somehow or maybe just say put Kang on the 1399 01:09:35.520 --> 01:09:38.199 back burner. Maybe we'll circle back to or like Immortisse, 1400 01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:41.119 circle back to them at a later point when they 1401 01:09:41.239 --> 01:09:43.439 figure out a better story to utilize them in. So 1402 01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:47.960 but I just I hope it's not just like, oh 1403 01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:51.079 this this guy's no longer or these multiple Kangs are 1404 01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:53.600 no longer a threat because we're just bringing doctor. I 1405 01:09:53.640 --> 01:09:58.439 hope it's not literally like hand wavy maybe three lines 1406 01:09:58.479 --> 01:10:02.039 of dialogue that writes them out out, because that would 1407 01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:04.239 frustrate me. That would disappoint me, because I just feel 1408 01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:06.800 like that creates that to me, that just if you're 1409 01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:09.079 looking at from the trajector of how it all fits 1410 01:10:09.119 --> 01:10:12.680 in the narrative, it's it's a pretty strong break for me. 1411 01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:14.119 What are you? 1412 01:10:14.159 --> 01:10:15.680 What are your thoughts? Travis? 1413 01:10:16.039 --> 01:10:19.159 And I'm gonna be asked with you, Chris, I've two minds. 1414 01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:22.399 Like I was excited to hear about our DJ being 1415 01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:26.560 coming back to the MCU, but also I wouldn't hate 1416 01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:29.600 to have a completely different Doctor Doom that is in 1417 01:10:29.720 --> 01:10:33.319 the MCU for several phases and comes up like Doctor 1418 01:10:33.359 --> 01:10:38.039 Doom is fantastic. He drops into some like animated series 1419 01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:42.760 and comic books that just completely overpowers anyone. He I 1420 01:10:43.399 --> 01:10:47.640 love the character, and again, I don't know if I 1421 01:10:47.680 --> 01:10:50.479 want him to be done after Secret Wars, like I 1422 01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:54.439 would like him to be a fixture in the MCU 1423 01:10:54.560 --> 01:10:57.079 going forward, and I feel like this is just a 1424 01:10:57.119 --> 01:11:00.359 couple of movies and I'm out again down E Like 1425 01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:02.680 a couple appearances, obviously in post credit sing but a 1426 01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:06.720 couple full actual movies and I'm out again. So I'm 1427 01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:09.319 hoping that's not a case, or they do bring in 1428 01:11:09.399 --> 01:11:11.720 a different version of Doctor Doom with the Fantastic Four 1429 01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:14.439 after this. But now everything I'm hearing is that he's 1430 01:11:14.479 --> 01:11:17.319 going to be a variant from that film, So I 1431 01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:19.680 don't know. I hope that they had their own Doctor 1432 01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:22.199 Doom to deal with, not just Matt. 1433 01:11:22.319 --> 01:11:25.560 Matt Jackman has said that he he is not commenting 1434 01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:28.880 on Doom being involved in any way, shape or form 1435 01:11:28.920 --> 01:11:31.239 at that point, which is basically code in our world, 1436 01:11:31.399 --> 01:11:33.600 is like yeah, you basically just confirmed it with your 1437 01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:37.720 non committal answer at that point. You know, Mar Daniels 1438 01:11:37.760 --> 01:11:40.199 in the chat saying I agree with the sentiment that 1439 01:11:40.199 --> 01:11:43.560 this Doom casting feels desperate. Thwip saying I've always wanted 1440 01:11:43.560 --> 01:11:46.760 Henry Cavill's Doom. I've even had a mock oppos as 1441 01:11:46.840 --> 01:11:50.279 him and the role. William saying no one around him 1442 01:11:50.319 --> 01:11:54.640 seemed disappointed. Thwip saying you could open Doomsday the same 1443 01:11:54.640 --> 01:11:57.239 way with Infinity War op and Thanos killing the ass Guardians. 1444 01:11:57.279 --> 01:11:59.760 Now it can be Doom annihilating the Kings and the 1445 01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:03.479 I'll see him. Yep, I've seen that, also saying Doom 1446 01:12:03.520 --> 01:12:06.760 should always be the villain that keeps being a pain 1447 01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:08.720 in the pain in the ass for the heroes, just 1448 01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:10.520 like the comics, you can't get rid of them. Yeah, 1449 01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:14.760 he's like a cockroach, you know the game. 1450 01:12:16.119 --> 01:12:18.880 It could just be like, you know, one version of 1451 01:12:19.439 --> 01:12:23.319 Doom that Robert Downey Junior is playing, and then depending 1452 01:12:23.319 --> 01:12:26.399 on how like my theory of Secret Wars has been 1453 01:12:26.520 --> 01:12:29.640 that you know, they'll they won't get rid of all 1454 01:12:29.640 --> 01:12:32.760 the pieces of the multiverse, but they'll definitely consolidate to 1455 01:12:32.840 --> 01:12:35.159 some degree, like there still will be a sacred timeline. 1456 01:12:35.479 --> 01:12:37.920 But then maybe like maybe they'll just be a fewer 1457 01:12:38.560 --> 01:12:40.720 there won't not there won't be as many branches. There'll 1458 01:12:40.760 --> 01:12:44.000 be just like a few tangential branches to the timeline 1459 01:12:44.039 --> 01:12:45.640 so that you can still play with multiverse when you 1460 01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:49.000 want to. But then after that point, then you know, 1461 01:12:49.199 --> 01:12:52.279 it's new X Men cast, you know, maybe a new 1462 01:12:52.560 --> 01:12:57.199 Victor von Doom casting post Secret Wars. And that's been 1463 01:12:57.199 --> 01:12:58.800 my theory for a little while. 1464 01:12:59.039 --> 01:13:01.239 Yeah, it's it's kind of to you know, again this 1465 01:13:01.399 --> 01:13:03.399 there is a possibility that we're going to have an 1466 01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:07.119 Avengers that will never face King. I don't like thinking 1467 01:13:07.199 --> 01:13:09.319 like that because Kang next to Doom is one of 1468 01:13:09.439 --> 01:13:11.119 their I know, Dooms is a fantastic war villain, but 1469 01:13:11.159 --> 01:13:13.840 when it comes down to Doom and King can be 1470 01:13:13.840 --> 01:13:15.960 both to be fantastic for villains in a way, but 1471 01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:19.439 also when it comes down to their Avengers levels threats. 1472 01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:21.039 Well you got to think too that, like they want 1473 01:13:21.039 --> 01:13:23.319 to do more than just this one fantastic for a 1474 01:13:23.399 --> 01:13:25.600 movie with this cast, you know, so even though this 1475 01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:28.439 is this specific, you know, fantastic four four steps is 1476 01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:32.159 leading to Secret Wars. Fig did say that the fantastic 1477 01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:35.760 forecast will be part of Doomsday and Secret Wars. He 1478 01:13:36.359 --> 01:13:38.319 did say that, so that there will they will continue 1479 01:13:38.359 --> 01:13:39.920 to be part of those. But like you got to 1480 01:13:39.960 --> 01:13:43.000 imagine they want to keep, you know, do another two 1481 01:13:43.079 --> 01:13:46.079 maybe three movies with that cast post Secret Wars. Even so, 1482 01:13:47.640 --> 01:13:50.960 if you know, they probably want to keep you know, Pedro, Pascal, 1483 01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:51.720 and Vanessa. 1484 01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:55.279 They're getting the trilogy experience, Yeah. 1485 01:13:54.640 --> 01:13:59.119 For sure. So you know, in that regard, you know, 1486 01:13:59.399 --> 01:14:03.640 there's no re and to not continue with either Victor 1487 01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:06.199 von dumer Kang in some capacity, like you can keep 1488 01:14:06.199 --> 01:14:08.800 telling stories of those characters, and you know by that point, 1489 01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:11.640 you know, by this point even you know, the audience 1490 01:14:11.720 --> 01:14:14.760 is well aware of different actors playing different roles of 1491 01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:18.199 different versions of characters. So you know, I think we're 1492 01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:20.319 gonna be well set up for if the recasting happens, 1493 01:14:20.359 --> 01:14:23.279 or we're just enjoying Robert Downey Junior for this moment too. 1494 01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:24.960 I mean, yeah, so maybe there is a bit of 1495 01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:27.680 desperation through it. I'm not gonna rule that out, but like, 1496 01:14:28.520 --> 01:14:31.600 I don't think it's gonna not work for him, and 1497 01:14:31.640 --> 01:14:34.159 I you know, probably Doney Junior is a really talented actor. 1498 01:14:34.199 --> 01:14:34.840 So you can. 1499 01:14:34.760 --> 01:14:38.039 Create a oh yeah, completely different persona for Victor Bomb 1500 01:14:38.079 --> 01:14:39.800 Doom than what we've seen with Tony Starks. 1501 01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:44.079 So yeah, all in the game saying the question of 1502 01:14:44.159 --> 01:14:46.840 what happened with Marcus not coming back? I don't know, 1503 01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:49.119 you know, again, it's maybe one of those that he 1504 01:14:49.119 --> 01:14:50.840 may be already involved in something else and just saying 1505 01:14:50.840 --> 01:14:53.000 why would you turn down another opportunity? I don't know. 1506 01:14:53.239 --> 01:14:55.960 I'm sure whenever they he decides to want to go 1507 01:14:56.039 --> 01:14:58.479 on record about why not this time? At this point, 1508 01:14:59.439 --> 01:15:03.319 I right now, I have no linklings of any thing 1509 01:15:03.479 --> 01:15:05.600 sinister or falling out at that point. Maybe it's just 1510 01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:08.000 comes down to simple thing like scheduling and money can't 1511 01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:08.640 buy everything. 1512 01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:10.840 All four of them are producers at AGUI, So maybe 1513 01:15:10.840 --> 01:15:12.319 there's a specific project he's. 1514 01:15:12.159 --> 01:15:14.640 Tied up with that he finds more passionate about than 1515 01:15:14.720 --> 01:15:16.159 ringing the bell of the Avengers again. 1516 01:15:16.520 --> 01:15:22.000 So uh yeah, Chris, maybe you just like the demands 1517 01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:23.560 that come with running those two. 1518 01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:25.399 Maybe you're just like, I don't want to handle that anymore. 1519 01:15:25.399 --> 01:15:25.960 I'm done. 1520 01:15:26.520 --> 01:15:29.199 Yeah, all the games talking about also, like an Avengers team, 1521 01:15:29.960 --> 01:15:32.520 what would people expect when Avengers team that's just quickly 1522 01:15:32.880 --> 01:15:35.359 thrown together in a relatively short space of time. What 1523 01:15:35.359 --> 01:15:37.399 are they possibly going to do? Yeah, that's another thing 1524 01:15:37.399 --> 01:15:40.319 to think about too. You know, I'm one of these 1525 01:15:40.399 --> 01:15:42.680 people that I'm an RDJ fan. He's definitely one of 1526 01:15:42.720 --> 01:15:47.760 my favorite actors. He's proven himself. He got that Oscar 1527 01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:50.039 he's wanted to so, Yeah, when he when he made 1528 01:15:50.079 --> 01:15:52.920 that statement about after he won the Oscar about thinking 1529 01:15:52.960 --> 01:15:56.039 about coming back and doing it, that's when he started saying, yeah, sure, 1530 01:15:56.039 --> 01:15:58.399 I can think about it. But before that, absolutely not. 1531 01:15:58.720 --> 01:16:01.720 He had been done his town time. He got. He 1532 01:16:01.880 --> 01:16:04.319 got the thing he wanted in the sense of, Okay, 1533 01:16:04.439 --> 01:16:07.079 I am not strictly defined by this character. I'm better 1534 01:16:07.159 --> 01:16:10.159 than I can show. I'm a better actor this I know, 1535 01:16:10.319 --> 01:16:12.600 got the proof I'm a better actor than just that. 1536 01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:17.199 But he him, I knew it was definitely wasn't on 1537 01:16:17.279 --> 01:16:19.520 my Bengo card for this. But in my opinion, I'm 1538 01:16:19.560 --> 01:16:22.319 a wait and see kind of person. I'm not this. 1539 01:16:22.319 --> 01:16:25.039 This necessarily wasn't who I thought was gonna be doom. 1540 01:16:26.039 --> 01:16:29.000 But I like the same thing I say with Ethider. 1541 01:16:29.279 --> 01:16:31.119 I'm willing to give it a chance and a sense 1542 01:16:31.119 --> 01:16:33.760 of let me see the story first before giving full things. 1543 01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:38.279 I understand people's disappointment. I understand people's reservations. I understand 1544 01:16:38.279 --> 01:16:40.800 when people say, oh, this is a safe move, this 1545 01:16:40.880 --> 01:16:43.640 is a move of you know, desperation. But I'm also 1546 01:16:43.680 --> 01:16:46.399 saying like, this is also a big risk for Marvel 1547 01:16:46.479 --> 01:16:48.640 to do this at this point, that that is a 1548 01:16:48.640 --> 01:16:51.920 big risk to pivot not only bringing back ARDJ, but 1549 01:16:52.039 --> 01:16:55.119 RDJ in a different role that people were like, oh, 1550 01:16:55.199 --> 01:16:57.479 we're not gonna there. There was no one else to 1551 01:16:57.479 --> 01:17:00.560 play this role. Whatever they're doing to bring back our DJ, 1552 01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:02.119 you can call it desperate, you can call it a 1553 01:17:02.119 --> 01:17:04.560 big risk. At this point. There is a storage driven 1554 01:17:04.600 --> 01:17:07.119 element with this, and I want to kind of put 1555 01:17:07.159 --> 01:17:08.960 forth this is this is the theory I've been kind 1556 01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:13.039 of work, kind of seeing different people say certain things. 1557 01:17:13.079 --> 01:17:15.920 But also this is things I've been thinking about in 1558 01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:19.840 last week. So going back to endgame, Tony figured out 1559 01:17:19.960 --> 01:17:23.239 time travel in a night, okay, And remember in his 1560 01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:26.239 final message to Morgan and Pepper was like, this time 1561 01:17:26.279 --> 01:17:29.199 travel thing has got me scratching my head about survivability. 1562 01:17:29.960 --> 01:17:30.119 Now. 1563 01:17:30.199 --> 01:17:34.840 Right before this, he explains that you know, he's making 1564 01:17:34.840 --> 01:17:37.439 this video in case his untimely death, But right after 1565 01:17:37.479 --> 01:17:40.199 that he says that death at any point is untimely. 1566 01:17:41.039 --> 01:17:42.960 So if he was able to understand that time travel 1567 01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:47.159 and understand quantum physics about quantum jumping enough and understand 1568 01:17:47.159 --> 01:17:50.720 how time works, he wouldn't. He wouldn't have understood it 1569 01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:54.039 in the way that Loki understands it because he's not 1570 01:17:54.079 --> 01:17:56.399 been in the TVA. He wouldn't understand it in the 1571 01:17:56.399 --> 01:17:59.239 way doctor Strange does looking at it from the timestone. 1572 01:17:59.479 --> 01:18:02.920 He understand in a scientific way. He understood that time 1573 01:18:03.039 --> 01:18:05.720 worked and how the branches worked and how it needed 1574 01:18:05.720 --> 01:18:08.119 to be ordered and able to jump through. That's that's 1575 01:18:08.199 --> 01:18:10.840 how me he made time tabled possible. Not on a 1576 01:18:10.880 --> 01:18:13.680 scientific side. And I say scientific, this is com book science. Yes, 1577 01:18:13.720 --> 01:18:17.399 I understand the whole thing, but stay with me here. 1578 01:18:17.960 --> 01:18:20.640 He would have understood that there were other versions of 1579 01:18:20.640 --> 01:18:23.960 people in other dimensions, in other universes. Tony never would 1580 01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:26.520 have agreed to this mission or gone into this without 1581 01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:28.920 knowing that he could get back to Pepper and Morgan, 1582 01:18:28.960 --> 01:18:32.119 because that was his biggest thing. He is not risking 1583 01:18:32.159 --> 01:18:33.119 his family doing this. 1584 01:18:34.279 --> 01:18:34.439 Now. 1585 01:18:34.439 --> 01:18:36.359 A lot of people say that doctor Doom will be 1586 01:18:36.399 --> 01:18:39.359 a very to Tony could be. That's not how they 1587 01:18:39.439 --> 01:18:43.199 introduced him, but it still could be so going off 1588 01:18:43.239 --> 01:18:45.560 that theory, what if Tony found a way to attach 1589 01:18:45.680 --> 01:18:49.039 himself to another dimension, another universe, another reality as a 1590 01:18:49.039 --> 01:18:52.800 fail safe in hopes of getting back. You know, this 1591 01:18:52.920 --> 01:18:56.520 leads me to the next thought. That really far ahead, 1592 01:18:56.560 --> 01:19:00.000 doctor Strange looking to the possible outcomes of the future. 1593 01:19:01.039 --> 01:19:01.359 You know. 1594 01:19:03.560 --> 01:19:06.840 What else did he see? We know he at least 1595 01:19:06.880 --> 01:19:10.800 looked ahead five years and knew what if they all 1596 01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:13.239 got dusted away, that five years later the rest of 1597 01:19:13.239 --> 01:19:14.960 the Avengers would come back and find a way to 1598 01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:16.720 bring them back and would be able to end that 1599 01:19:16.760 --> 01:19:20.600 part of the war. I think Strange saw him far 1600 01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:23.680 more than he ever thought he would have seen at 1601 01:19:23.680 --> 01:19:26.199 that point, and I think that he he is that 1602 01:19:26.359 --> 01:19:30.439 is something that is very big to explore, which is 1603 01:19:30.479 --> 01:19:34.159 why I think that, you know, I'm that's that's how 1604 01:19:34.199 --> 01:19:37.039 I'm thinking. This is kind of might go down. It's 1605 01:19:37.079 --> 01:19:40.039 an idea to theory whether we see but I think Strange 1606 01:19:40.079 --> 01:19:43.600 knows more about what the future lies ahead than anything 1607 01:19:43.680 --> 01:19:44.840 than just five years. 1608 01:19:45.640 --> 01:19:49.399 Did either of you guys read the twenty ninety nine 1609 01:19:49.560 --> 01:19:51.520 line of comics when those were coming out in the 1610 01:19:52.920 --> 01:19:55.760 early nineties, and one of the books was Doom. 1611 01:19:56.359 --> 01:19:58.479 Oh yeah, that Doom. I'm a bit Oh, yes, that 1612 01:19:58.560 --> 01:19:59.279 Doom is scary. 1613 01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:02.239 It's been a while since I've looked at that book, 1614 01:20:02.439 --> 01:20:06.479 you know, because they're packed away somewhere. But I sort 1615 01:20:06.520 --> 01:20:11.880 of remember the way that first issue opens, Doctor Doom 1616 01:20:11.880 --> 01:20:14.760 somehow time travels into the future, finds himself in twenty 1617 01:20:14.800 --> 01:20:17.039 ninety nine. But then over the course of course of 1618 01:20:17.119 --> 01:20:21.560 this first couple issues, they reveal that that person is 1619 01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:24.800 not actually Victor von Doom. It's like someone else who 1620 01:20:24.840 --> 01:20:28.640 has the memories of Victor van Doom, or like the 1621 01:20:28.960 --> 01:20:32.239 or his body has been made to be younger because 1622 01:20:32.239 --> 01:20:35.079 he doesn't have the facial scars and things like that. 1623 01:20:35.239 --> 01:20:39.600 So there could be some element of it where a 1624 01:20:39.680 --> 01:20:43.920 variant of Tony Stark who has landed somewhere and lost 1625 01:20:43.960 --> 01:20:47.279 his memory of who he is and thinks he's this 1626 01:20:47.359 --> 01:20:50.520 hole and he lands up in Laveria and he has 1627 01:20:50.560 --> 01:20:54.760 no memory of who he is, but he's this brilliant engineer, 1628 01:20:56.199 --> 01:20:58.520 and maybe he's in the middle of lands, in the 1629 01:20:58.520 --> 01:21:01.399 middle of a place where and there's I'm just I'm 1630 01:21:01.560 --> 01:21:04.119 clearly spitballing and shooting from you know, some kind of 1631 01:21:04.479 --> 01:21:07.319 civil war happening in Latvia, and he ends up being 1632 01:21:07.359 --> 01:21:10.079 someone who fringes out a way to resolve it or 1633 01:21:10.119 --> 01:21:12.960 solve it or stop it, or help one side win 1634 01:21:13.039 --> 01:21:15.199 over the other. And as a result of that, because 1635 01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:18.399 he plays such a pivotal role because of his intelligence, 1636 01:21:18.920 --> 01:21:21.199 causes him to become like they're de fact a leader. 1637 01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:23.880 Hen becomes the ruler of Latvia, and he just sort 1638 01:21:23.880 --> 01:21:28.279 of continues in that identity forgetting who he was actually 1639 01:21:28.359 --> 01:21:31.880 was as a variant of Tony Stark. Again pure yeah, 1640 01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:34.079 crazy speculation. 1641 01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:36.720 So it's gonna be it's gonna be one of those 1642 01:21:36.760 --> 01:21:39.600 where we're gonna have a lot of theories. They're gonna 1643 01:21:39.640 --> 01:21:43.600 start filming within the next year, and we're gonna start 1644 01:21:43.600 --> 01:21:46.119 building towards this. I think my fascination comes is as 1645 01:21:46.159 --> 01:21:49.239 our only look at Doom going to be in fantastic 1646 01:21:49.279 --> 01:21:51.439 for are we going to start laying the foundations of 1647 01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:54.479 Doom at some points because I had put forth a 1648 01:21:54.560 --> 01:21:56.760 theory and I wasn't the only one that I think 1649 01:21:56.960 --> 01:21:59.239 Doom at one point may or may not have been 1650 01:21:59.239 --> 01:22:02.319 in Wakonda for that discussion. I still think was had 1651 01:22:03.520 --> 01:22:05.760 and was going to be operating behind the scenes, but 1652 01:22:05.800 --> 01:22:10.279 that might have got changed last minute. But yeah, you know, 1653 01:22:10.359 --> 01:22:13.239 The Tatiana Seagull put out another lovely hit piece and 1654 01:22:13.319 --> 01:22:15.560 variety in the sense of putting out the idea of 1655 01:22:15.640 --> 01:22:20.760 the supposed payday for downy is going to be, you know, 1656 01:22:20.920 --> 01:22:24.039 supposedly Marvel's plucking down eighty million dollars for the Russo 1657 01:22:24.039 --> 01:22:26.840 brothers to come back, and RDYJ is going to get 1658 01:22:26.840 --> 01:22:31.239 paid way more, including supposedly what is it like a 1659 01:22:31.560 --> 01:22:34.239 a RV village and things like that. You know what, 1660 01:22:34.600 --> 01:22:38.119 at this point, pay days are pay days. Unfortunately. Fortunately 1661 01:22:38.720 --> 01:22:42.039 it's one of those things that with everyone else that 1662 01:22:42.159 --> 01:22:44.239 works so hard on these movies at that point, to 1663 01:22:44.279 --> 01:22:47.439 get a payday like that, it's somewhat after all the 1664 01:22:47.479 --> 01:22:50.560 strikes saying, eh, it just doesn't feel good seeing like that. 1665 01:22:50.880 --> 01:22:54.560 But this is what they wanted to do, and ardy 1666 01:22:54.640 --> 01:22:57.159 J is not necessarily wrong saying you want me back, 1667 01:22:57.560 --> 01:22:59.760 I want this payday, I want this at the other 1668 01:22:59.840 --> 01:23:01.560 and I want the Russos back in order for me 1669 01:23:01.600 --> 01:23:04.479 to do it. And guess what Marvel did It called inspiration. 1670 01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:07.000 But they had a story that they think they could 1671 01:23:07.039 --> 01:23:08.840 do and they got them back, and we're just gonna 1672 01:23:08.840 --> 01:23:10.359 have to see exactly what is it going to be 1673 01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:10.760 worth it? 1674 01:23:11.279 --> 01:23:13.199 And it'll be interesting, what you know, what came first? Like 1675 01:23:13.319 --> 01:23:15.479 was it the Russo's or was Robert Donney Junior coming 1676 01:23:15.520 --> 01:23:16.680 back first? Like which happened? 1677 01:23:16.720 --> 01:23:17.079 What was it? 1678 01:23:17.159 --> 01:23:18.600 Yeah, that will be a fun discussion. 1679 01:23:18.640 --> 01:23:22.439 I mean, I think my assumption has been once once 1680 01:23:22.439 --> 01:23:24.800 they submit to the Russos as directing the two movies, 1681 01:23:24.840 --> 01:23:27.439 then they're like, well we got to bring back Robert somehow, 1682 01:23:27.560 --> 01:23:29.680 Well how are we gonna do it? What do you 1683 01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:32.079 want to do? And then like they can like, oh, Robert, 1684 01:23:32.119 --> 01:23:34.000 you want to come back? I don't know the Russos 1685 01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:36.479 are going to direct? Oh sure, I'm in You know, 1686 01:23:37.079 --> 01:23:38.159 it could have been that simple. 1687 01:23:38.279 --> 01:23:40.920 I got a feeling that those two, those three worked 1688 01:23:40.960 --> 01:23:44.840 in concert a little bit here to get the steal signed, 1689 01:23:44.920 --> 01:23:47.439 because I'm pretty sure they came out town and he 1690 01:23:47.479 --> 01:23:49.600 said he wasn't gonna do it with anybody else other than. 1691 01:23:49.479 --> 01:23:52.159 The Russos, so accordinated Tatiana f Chiez to be to believed. 1692 01:23:52.199 --> 01:23:54.000 Oh well, okay, in mind, if that's the source, then 1693 01:23:54.399 --> 01:23:57.319 forget what I just said. That's a very suspict source 1694 01:23:57.479 --> 01:23:58.039 to begin with. 1695 01:23:58.239 --> 01:24:01.600 So I wanted to say the source of the article piece, Well, 1696 01:24:01.680 --> 01:24:04.880 she's I call her the she she is kind of 1697 01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:07.239 very big on hit pieces on both sides of the aisle. 1698 01:24:07.520 --> 01:24:11.640 So in my in my humble opinion, well and. 1699 01:24:11.279 --> 01:24:15.720 Also as far as the Russos go, I remember were 1700 01:24:15.720 --> 01:24:19.000 listening to another podcast where the hosts were talking about 1701 01:24:19.119 --> 01:24:21.039 if if the Russos are coming back, like this is 1702 01:24:21.399 --> 01:24:23.960 this is just going back to the well this is 1703 01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:26.439 you know, it's too you know, this is a movie 1704 01:24:26.439 --> 01:24:28.159 of desperation that kind of. 1705 01:24:28.119 --> 01:24:31.159 Six point six billion dollars made for Marvel with the 1706 01:24:31.239 --> 01:24:35.600 Russos alone. Look, I'm just gonna say that. 1707 01:24:35.880 --> 01:24:37.720 I mean, I don't know if you guys read the 1708 01:24:38.279 --> 01:24:41.439 Reign of the MCU book that Joanna Robinson and then 1709 01:24:41.479 --> 01:24:43.439 a couple of the writers put out, part I'm. 1710 01:24:43.359 --> 01:24:45.760 Part of the way. Yeah, I've not all the way 1711 01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:46.720 through it, but yeah, I've read a lot. 1712 01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:50.920 She really does emphasize how like the Marvel really did 1713 01:24:51.039 --> 01:24:54.760 find like the best collaborators, like what the most ideal 1714 01:24:54.840 --> 01:24:56.359 kind of director that they were looking for with they 1715 01:24:56.399 --> 01:24:59.079 found in the Russos that the kind of director does 1716 01:24:59.119 --> 01:25:01.600 like super collaborat with them, and we'll talk to the 1717 01:25:01.640 --> 01:25:03.760 other directors and writers that are, you know, all in 1718 01:25:03.800 --> 01:25:06.520 the studio. So in order to put the best thing together. 1719 01:25:06.560 --> 01:25:11.319 So it makes if they've It's not like Marvel hasn't 1720 01:25:11.359 --> 01:25:13.800 tried to work with a variety of other directors. It's 1721 01:25:13.800 --> 01:25:16.039 not like they didn't try to find different directors for 1722 01:25:16.119 --> 01:25:19.439 Avengers five and Secret Wars. They have tried to find 1723 01:25:19.439 --> 01:25:22.479 other people, just for one reason or another, it didn't 1724 01:25:22.479 --> 01:25:25.279 work out. And you know, hey, then you go back 1725 01:25:25.279 --> 01:25:26.560 to the people who you know you can count on, 1726 01:25:26.600 --> 01:25:30.119 who are clearly I would be very excited to continue 1727 01:25:30.239 --> 01:25:34.039 going to like they they got to have a creative 1728 01:25:34.039 --> 01:25:36.079 outlet with things like The Gray Man and Cherry and 1729 01:25:36.119 --> 01:25:42.039 I really liked The Gray Man. So but the what's that? 1730 01:25:42.319 --> 01:25:44.039 I'm glad you did so. 1731 01:25:44.119 --> 01:25:45.640 I thought it was. I liked it. 1732 01:25:45.640 --> 01:25:47.840 It was okay, it was it was okay. You know, 1733 01:25:48.399 --> 01:25:50.720 it's one of those I don't think they found their 1734 01:25:50.800 --> 01:25:53.680 their footing yet to find that that same thing they 1735 01:25:53.680 --> 01:25:56.479 found at Marvel. But I do appreciate their sticking to 1736 01:25:56.520 --> 01:26:00.079 their guns and doing their creativeness at that point. But 1737 01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:05.119 but but yeah, so uh great. I appreciate you know, 1738 01:26:05.399 --> 01:26:08.960 you giving your your voice to giving us our boots 1739 01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:13.079 on the ground to tell us exactly your experiences. We're 1740 01:26:13.079 --> 01:26:15.000 gonna head into some news. Are you're gonna stick around 1741 01:26:15.039 --> 01:26:17.119 or are you gonna. 1742 01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:18.960 For a few more minutes? And then I think I 1743 01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:19.560 gotta duck out. 1744 01:26:19.680 --> 01:26:22.960 Okay, So we're gonna take our next ad break before 1745 01:26:22.960 --> 01:26:24.680 we get into the news that point, we're kind of 1746 01:26:24.720 --> 01:26:27.239 gonna hit these news pieces pretty quick because fig gave 1747 01:26:27.239 --> 01:26:28.960 a lot of interviews and there's not too much meat 1748 01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:30.319 to chew on it, but just kind of get some 1749 01:26:30.399 --> 01:26:33.199 quick reactions. So all right, listeners, as you know, these 1750 01:26:33.199 --> 01:26:35.479 ads help keep the lights on the geek Ultimate Alliance Network. 1751 01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:36.920 We don't get to choose what ads come on, and 1752 01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:38.159 they could be a bit loud. Give it that three 1753 01:26:38.159 --> 01:26:41.039 account before they come on three two one. We'll be 1754 01:26:41.119 --> 01:26:45.279 right back and we are back, all right. So fig 1755 01:26:45.439 --> 01:26:48.079 gave a lot of interviews last week leading up to 1756 01:26:48.119 --> 01:26:51.600 Dead Bloem, Wolverine, drop some Tea, So we're gonna start. 1757 01:26:51.600 --> 01:26:53.399 We're gonna do these kind of quick hits at that point, 1758 01:26:53.479 --> 01:26:58.119 leading off with Nova. So Figy talking to Brendan Davis 1759 01:26:58.880 --> 01:27:03.720 Comic book dot Com and I talked about asking about, 1760 01:27:03.800 --> 01:27:07.760 you know, is Nova happening. Fig said, it's happening. It's 1761 01:27:07.800 --> 01:27:12.239 coming together. Richard Ryder is our Nova. He said, you know, 1762 01:27:12.399 --> 01:27:13.760 is it going to be a movie or show? Brenda 1763 01:27:13.800 --> 01:27:15.840 David heads he said, Fig says a show. 1764 01:27:15.960 --> 01:27:16.279 Yeah. 1765 01:27:16.439 --> 01:27:19.640 Yeah. As for the project is slated to actually hit 1766 01:27:19.680 --> 01:27:22.199 the small screen, there's still some time on that one. 1767 01:27:22.279 --> 01:27:25.840 We're looking at three to four years out. So Nova 1768 01:27:25.880 --> 01:27:29.800 definitely does not sound like a project within the Multiverse saga. 1769 01:27:29.840 --> 01:27:32.520 This sounds like one of the first projects outside the 1770 01:27:32.600 --> 01:27:35.840 Multiverse saga. And it's interesting that this is it right now, 1771 01:27:35.920 --> 01:27:39.800 a Disney Plus show. So quick reactions, Travis go First. 1772 01:27:39.640 --> 01:27:41.199 I watched the video of this interview. 1773 01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:44.279 There's no way he's telling the information to anyone else 1774 01:27:44.399 --> 01:27:47.479 other than Brandon Davis because he loves the Nova character, 1775 01:27:47.520 --> 01:27:51.520 and I'm pretty sure he kind of dropped the hint 1776 01:27:51.560 --> 01:27:54.600 that he'll, like maybe do a little stupid cameo. 1777 01:27:54.319 --> 01:27:55.920 Of just a regular guy or something. 1778 01:27:56.000 --> 01:27:59.520 Yep, So yeah, I think so yeah, that's I mean 1779 01:27:59.560 --> 01:28:01.560 for this, this another thing down to pipe. They have 1780 01:28:01.640 --> 01:28:05.000 so much in back characters that we haven't even seen yet, 1781 01:28:05.039 --> 01:28:07.039 So this is another one of those. 1782 01:28:07.279 --> 01:28:10.199 What do you think Harry down for Nova as a 1783 01:28:10.199 --> 01:28:11.399 show instead of a movie. 1784 01:28:12.319 --> 01:28:14.439 Honestly, it wouldn't matter to me that much either way. 1785 01:28:14.479 --> 01:28:16.359 I really am not familiar with the character of Nova. 1786 01:28:17.079 --> 01:28:19.319 I just am more excited about the idea that, you know, 1787 01:28:19.399 --> 01:28:22.239 circling back to those pieces of like the Nova core 1788 01:28:22.359 --> 01:28:24.279 that were introduced in the in the First Guardians they 1789 01:28:24.279 --> 01:28:26.439 got actually movie kind of circling back to that side 1790 01:28:26.439 --> 01:28:28.720 of the cosmic world of the MCUs. 1791 01:28:28.800 --> 01:28:33.039 So yeah, yeah, we don't even know what their status 1792 01:28:33.119 --> 01:28:35.560 is because all we know is Danis wiped them out 1793 01:28:37.640 --> 01:28:40.279 during Infinity Wars that we have not seen a re establishment, 1794 01:28:40.359 --> 01:28:43.520 and you know, you look at the annihilation saga from 1795 01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:47.119 the comics that wiped out the novacre and Richard Ryder 1796 01:28:47.319 --> 01:28:50.840 was the last of the Nova at that point, So 1797 01:28:51.079 --> 01:28:54.039 we'll have to see exactly. But yeah, me personally, I 1798 01:28:54.319 --> 01:28:58.039 do like the Richard Ryder version of it. It's you know, 1799 01:28:58.119 --> 01:29:01.039 one of those where it's gonna be interesting to see 1800 01:29:01.039 --> 01:29:03.399 when you say it's gonna be a show. Budget's always 1801 01:29:03.439 --> 01:29:06.520 my interesting thing, and this is a cosmic hero, so 1802 01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:11.239 I'm expecting big, big space opera things like that kind 1803 01:29:11.279 --> 01:29:13.680 of you know, so that that means budgets may be 1804 01:29:13.760 --> 01:29:17.399 going up, so that's not necessarily you know, to do this, right, 1805 01:29:17.479 --> 01:29:21.239 I think you can do it, but I think it 1806 01:29:21.359 --> 01:29:23.600 surprised me saying this is gonna be a show, but 1807 01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:27.319 we'll just have to see next up. Spider Man four 1808 01:29:27.600 --> 01:29:31.439 and mcu x men updates. So Figi was talking to 1809 01:29:31.439 --> 01:29:35.479 Gizmoto talk about an update on on Spider Man four, saying, 1810 01:29:35.520 --> 01:29:39.239 our favorite Spider Man for Sony producer Travis Amy, Pascal 1811 01:29:39.319 --> 01:29:42.199 and I are working on it. Figi said about the 1812 01:29:42.199 --> 01:29:45.079 next Spider Man film, we have writers who are going 1813 01:29:45.079 --> 01:29:48.399 to deliver us a draft relatively soon, so that's positive. 1814 01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:51.840 Talk about the next director for it, and in the 1815 01:29:51.880 --> 01:29:55.039 sense of you know John Watts, and he says John, 1816 01:29:55.119 --> 01:29:57.560 We love John. We did three movie, one of the 1817 01:29:57.560 --> 01:30:00.800 best best Spider Man movies he'd ever done with He's 1818 01:30:00.800 --> 01:30:03.119 got lots of things going on now, so we'll probably 1819 01:30:03.119 --> 01:30:07.000 be looking for someone else just because he's busy. Yes, 1820 01:30:07.079 --> 01:30:10.479 he is doing He's just getting ready to have a 1821 01:30:10.600 --> 01:30:13.920 movie with George Clooney and Brad Pitt coming out. Just 1822 01:30:13.960 --> 01:30:16.760 saw the trailer for that about a few months ago. 1823 01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:20.359 He's also directing a few episodes of The Skeleton Crew, 1824 01:30:21.680 --> 01:30:25.000 so he's relatively busy at that point. And what do 1825 01:30:25.039 --> 01:30:27.840 y'all think, you know, small update on the writing going 1826 01:30:27.880 --> 01:30:31.840 to be turning a script soon you know, are you 1827 01:30:31.880 --> 01:30:34.119 good with John Watts kind of saying you've done your 1828 01:30:34.119 --> 01:30:36.079 time for King and Country, Let's find someone else to 1829 01:30:36.119 --> 01:30:38.479 lead the next trilogy. How y'all feeling about that? 1830 01:30:39.119 --> 01:30:41.600 Completely fine with that, as long as you give me 1831 01:30:42.199 --> 01:30:45.239 at least two to three Amy Pascal and Kevin Foggy 1832 01:30:45.319 --> 01:30:47.840 interviews together where they don't know what's going to be 1833 01:30:47.880 --> 01:30:51.720 said going in, because Foggy's reactions when Amy starts talking 1834 01:30:51.720 --> 01:30:53.439 about things that they're going to do in the future 1835 01:30:53.920 --> 01:30:54.680 is priceless. 1836 01:30:54.760 --> 01:30:55.920 So, yeah, I want more of that. 1837 01:30:56.560 --> 01:31:01.159 I know about you carry, Yeah, I mean Spider Man 1838 01:31:01.239 --> 01:31:03.399 noelm was a heck of a high note to go 1839 01:31:03.479 --> 01:31:05.880 out on. So I think for John Watts, you know, 1840 01:31:06.119 --> 01:31:08.359 perfectly fine with him moving and venturing onto other things. 1841 01:31:08.399 --> 01:31:11.560 And you know, I'm excited for I'm hoping that, you know, 1842 01:31:11.640 --> 01:31:14.119 whether it's both not only Spider Man for but hopefully 1843 01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:16.279 more movies with Tom Holland I just want to see 1844 01:31:16.279 --> 01:31:19.520 the college years Peter Parker in the MCU and see 1845 01:31:19.520 --> 01:31:21.720 that play out. And I mean, there's any number of 1846 01:31:21.720 --> 01:31:25.039 great directors who could give us something special with that 1847 01:31:25.119 --> 01:31:27.239 and just keep the torch going. 1848 01:31:27.560 --> 01:31:29.359 Sit up so perfectly at the end of no way 1849 01:31:29.399 --> 01:31:31.760 home here. You want to see the college years as well, 1850 01:31:31.760 --> 01:31:32.199 where he's. 1851 01:31:32.079 --> 01:31:34.560 All long, Yeah, it's going to be good, And I'm 1852 01:31:34.560 --> 01:31:36.560 good with John Watson finding someone else at that point. 1853 01:31:36.600 --> 01:31:38.159 We've seen what he can do. Let's bring in a 1854 01:31:38.199 --> 01:31:40.800 new person with a new vision at that point. But 1855 01:31:40.840 --> 01:31:44.000 when we're talking about X Men, they they made this, 1856 01:31:44.439 --> 01:31:46.399 you know, Asking fi Gey kind of indirectly about it, 1857 01:31:46.479 --> 01:31:49.399 he said, well, that's a mutants are. That's a phrase 1858 01:31:49.439 --> 01:31:52.920 we use often at Mark Marvel, which is it's and 1859 01:31:53.119 --> 01:31:55.880 it's an embarrassment of riches. Figi said. When it comes 1860 01:31:55.920 --> 01:31:57.439 to the X Men, and there are a lot of 1861 01:31:57.439 --> 01:32:00.319 great X Men characters and Deadpool and Wolverine film, there 1862 01:32:00.319 --> 01:32:02.159 are a lot of great X Men characters in all 1863 01:32:02.199 --> 01:32:03.840 of the Fox versions of the X Men, and there 1864 01:32:03.880 --> 01:32:05.880 are a lot of great X Men characters that have 1865 01:32:06.119 --> 01:32:08.560 never gone on to the big screens. So I think 1866 01:32:08.560 --> 01:32:10.920 we will always try to do as we do when 1867 01:32:10.960 --> 01:32:13.720 we made the arrangement with Sony for Spider Man, you'll 1868 01:32:13.760 --> 01:32:16.279 probably see a mix of characters you've seen before and 1869 01:32:16.319 --> 01:32:19.439 some you've never seen ever. On that point, I think 1870 01:32:19.479 --> 01:32:21.319 the success of X Men nighty seven, it was really 1871 01:32:21.319 --> 01:32:24.319 exciting for us to see people revisit and reconnect with 1872 01:32:24.359 --> 01:32:27.720 that world. And dare I say the soap opera elements 1873 01:32:27.760 --> 01:32:30.399 of that world, which is of the things that's so 1874 01:32:30.520 --> 01:32:34.760 exciting jumping into finally bringing them to the MCU. So 1875 01:32:35.039 --> 01:32:38.159 that's that's positive in that sense for both of those. 1876 01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:42.800 You know, we've already seen the comments of the Mutant erat. 1877 01:32:42.800 --> 01:32:45.640 We know Figy's saying Deadpool Wolverene starts the mutant era 1878 01:32:45.800 --> 01:32:47.720 of X Men. But I don't think we're going to 1879 01:32:47.720 --> 01:32:49.800 everyone get to say, oh, we're gonna get more Avengers 1880 01:32:49.880 --> 01:32:53.239 versus x Men in this now, We're not. That's not 1881 01:32:53.279 --> 01:32:58.359 coming until after this multiverse sagas over. We need to 1882 01:32:58.359 --> 01:33:00.880 first get an Avengers team stab which before we start 1883 01:33:00.920 --> 01:33:03.159 having them fighting an X Men that doesn't exist in 1884 01:33:03.199 --> 01:33:07.960 the MCU. So but a couple of ones, anyone surprised 1885 01:33:07.960 --> 01:33:11.359 Figy's saying there are no plans for Eternals to anyone 1886 01:33:11.600 --> 01:33:18.680 show of hands. Nope, good, all right? So uh we Hey, 1887 01:33:18.720 --> 01:33:22.840 we get our first revisiting of a lot, and. 1888 01:33:23.800 --> 01:33:28.760 Thankful for that, you know, and Kevin likes to resurrect 1889 01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:31.079 things that didn't work as well. Maybe Eternals would have 1890 01:33:31.119 --> 01:33:32.520 been better as a Disney Plus series. 1891 01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:35.640 Yep, I mean I didn't hate on Eternals as much 1892 01:33:35.640 --> 01:33:39.920 at that point. I think that movie, that movie is 1893 01:33:39.960 --> 01:33:43.960 going to be more sense of what like to your point, Travis, 1894 01:33:44.319 --> 01:33:46.920 what was done as a result. Brave New World is 1895 01:33:46.920 --> 01:33:50.000 the first, you know, revisiting of it. I think we're 1896 01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:52.479 going to more see how effective it was, if any 1897 01:33:52.520 --> 01:33:54.800 of the characters do come back in any shape form, 1898 01:33:54.880 --> 01:33:59.680 or the rest of these phases. So and last, it 1899 01:33:59.760 --> 01:34:03.840 looked at the Figy News who bought Avengers Tower? This 1900 01:34:03.880 --> 01:34:06.119 is another one coming from Brandon Davis who has been 1901 01:34:06.439 --> 01:34:09.000 harping on this trying to see exactly when are we 1902 01:34:09.039 --> 01:34:12.520 going to find out since Homecoming who bought Avengers Tower? 1903 01:34:13.199 --> 01:34:16.199 And he asked them a couple of things he asked 1904 01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:18.159 to fig he said. Speaking with comicbook dot Com ahead 1905 01:34:18.159 --> 01:34:21.279 of the release of Deadpool Wolverine, Figi was asked if 1906 01:34:21.279 --> 01:34:24.640 the answer to Avengers Tower question was the same as 1907 01:34:24.680 --> 01:34:28.279 it has been previously and when we might finally get 1908 01:34:28.319 --> 01:34:31.000 that information, and Figi confirmed he knows who bought it 1909 01:34:31.600 --> 01:34:34.439 and it's the same answer as previously. Yes, we'll find 1910 01:34:34.439 --> 01:34:37.119 out soon, he said, yes. Fig He said yes, and yes, 1911 01:34:37.159 --> 01:34:39.720 So the same person they had in mind that bought 1912 01:34:39.720 --> 01:34:42.279 it is still the plan. Who bought it? We will 1913 01:34:42.319 --> 01:34:45.880 find out, and we will find out soon. Doesn't say 1914 01:34:45.960 --> 01:34:48.039 at that point, but we will find out soon. So 1915 01:34:48.159 --> 01:34:50.119 my guess is probably sometime next year. 1916 01:34:51.680 --> 01:34:53.159 I think you could be right about that, Chris. 1917 01:34:53.199 --> 01:34:55.520 The way I watched that interviewed away FIGI was, I 1918 01:34:55.560 --> 01:34:57.199 do think we'll see it in the next year. 1919 01:34:57.600 --> 01:34:57.840 Yep. 1920 01:34:58.159 --> 01:34:59.880 So are you excited to see who? 1921 01:35:00.119 --> 01:35:00.520 Finally? 1922 01:35:00.680 --> 01:35:02.439 Is it going to be the What do you think, Harry? 1923 01:35:02.479 --> 01:35:04.840 Is it going to be confirming fans theory of possibly 1924 01:35:04.840 --> 01:35:08.640 a kingpin buying it? Or is it going to be 1925 01:35:08.640 --> 01:35:11.640 someone else? Is it gonna meet our Are we building 1926 01:35:11.640 --> 01:35:13.800 this up just to be let down? Did our speculation 1927 01:35:13.920 --> 01:35:17.560 become our expectation? As my coast Brent has said many times, 1928 01:35:17.880 --> 01:35:18.319 I mean it. 1929 01:35:18.239 --> 01:35:20.680 Could be that for sure. I think, you know, the 1930 01:35:20.760 --> 01:35:23.840 kingpin buying it makes the most sense and would be 1931 01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:28.359 sort of a way of Hey, we couldn't really say 1932 01:35:28.600 --> 01:35:30.760 who it was until they got to a certain point 1933 01:35:30.760 --> 01:35:33.479 with the Daredevil frights and franchise and things like that, 1934 01:35:33.560 --> 01:35:36.359 and getting it all under there the Marvel Studios roof 1935 01:35:36.399 --> 01:35:39.039 and not just under Marvel Entertainment so I imagine. 1936 01:35:38.720 --> 01:35:40.399 There's I was going to just say that, Julio. 1937 01:35:43.680 --> 01:35:44.720 Yeah, yeah, exactly. 1938 01:35:44.800 --> 01:35:48.520 So, yeah, Julio saying val body. You can't again, Julio, 1939 01:35:48.720 --> 01:35:51.079 you can't even say her name. You can't even you 1940 01:35:51.119 --> 01:35:52.600 could barely think it, you know. 1941 01:35:53.119 --> 01:35:56.399 So I'm excited for that mystery to be revealed, but 1942 01:35:56.439 --> 01:35:58.399 I don't think it's going to be a massive, massive 1943 01:35:58.399 --> 01:35:59.960 plot point. I think it'll be just like, and then 1944 01:36:01.319 --> 01:36:03.960 this person bought Stark Tower, bought the Avengers Tower. Then 1945 01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:04.880 we'll just cover the one. 1946 01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:08.960 Yeah, all right. Our last story of the evening is 1947 01:36:09.039 --> 01:36:13.840 looking at the historic box office of Deadpool and Wolverine. 1948 01:36:13.920 --> 01:36:16.479 So much the surprise of No. One, it was number 1949 01:36:16.479 --> 01:36:19.720 one at the box office. The first weekend made four 1950 01:36:19.840 --> 01:36:22.920 hundred and forty four point one million dollars globally, including 1951 01:36:22.920 --> 01:36:28.119 two hundred and eleven million domestically, exceeding the adjusted expectations 1952 01:36:28.159 --> 01:36:30.239 that put it around one hundred and sixty one hundred 1953 01:36:30.239 --> 01:36:33.319 and sixty five million. It blew that away. This makes 1954 01:36:33.319 --> 01:36:35.920 dead Pool Woverine the highest grossing global opening for an 1955 01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:39.239 R rated box in box office history, surpassing Deadpool in 1956 01:36:39.279 --> 01:36:43.319 twenty sixteen. Domestically, it was the sixth highest grossing movie 1957 01:36:43.520 --> 01:36:46.800 opening of all time, the highest July opening weekend of 1958 01:36:46.840 --> 01:36:49.399 all time, surpassing twenty nineteen to The Lion King, the 1959 01:36:49.439 --> 01:36:52.800 biggest opening since twenty twenty one Spider Man No Way Home, 1960 01:36:52.840 --> 01:36:56.039 and the second largest opening for a third installment behind 1961 01:36:56.079 --> 01:37:01.000 twenty Nineteens Avengers Endgame as of recordings of recording, these 1962 01:37:01.039 --> 01:37:03.720 are the current numbers as it stands right now. Domestically, 1963 01:37:04.319 --> 01:37:06.680 it has earned two hundred and eighty million dollars in 1964 01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:10.000 change internationally three hundred and ten million for change for 1965 01:37:10.079 --> 01:37:13.479 a grand total as of recording a five hundred and 1966 01:37:13.560 --> 01:37:18.560 ninety million dollars global taken. It will not only exceed 1967 01:37:18.640 --> 01:37:21.319 six hundred million, probably by the time of tomorrow morning, 1968 01:37:21.359 --> 01:37:23.960 if not by into Friday night, but it is well 1969 01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:27.239 on its way. People are saying we they will hit 1970 01:37:27.359 --> 01:37:31.880 a billion sometime next week. So that is two billion 1971 01:37:31.960 --> 01:37:40.000 dollar movies for Disney in one summer. Inside Out Too. 1972 01:37:40.479 --> 01:37:42.520 Travis has given me this look they got Inside Out Too. 1973 01:37:43.439 --> 01:37:44.960 That's not on my radar at the moment. 1974 01:37:46.039 --> 01:37:47.439 I saw in Sign Out Too and liked it, but 1975 01:37:47.479 --> 01:37:49.760 I had a brain fart moment too that fun. 1976 01:37:51.520 --> 01:37:54.359 So yeah, So I don't think any of those numbers surprises. 1977 01:37:54.399 --> 01:37:57.560 At that point, I think it's you know again, I 1978 01:37:58.560 --> 01:38:00.359 stuck to my guns with my prediction. I did not 1979 01:38:00.399 --> 01:38:02.359 see in getting a film, but I said, I will 1980 01:38:02.399 --> 01:38:04.760 be very happily proved wrong, and I'll be very happy 1981 01:38:04.760 --> 01:38:07.119 to get that one wrong that they did not. They're 1982 01:38:07.119 --> 01:38:09.520 going to achieve a billion. It's it's great, it's great news. 1983 01:38:09.600 --> 01:38:13.359 But t whip saying Craven's got a competition at the 1984 01:38:13.359 --> 01:38:16.079 box of his Oh oh yes he does. Oh yes, 1985 01:38:18.640 --> 01:38:21.319 all right, well I will since that you gave us 1986 01:38:21.319 --> 01:38:23.279 a little more extra time care, I'm sensing this will 1987 01:38:23.279 --> 01:38:24.600 you will be probably stepping out. 1988 01:38:24.880 --> 01:38:26.600 I think I need to duck out at this point. Yeah, 1989 01:38:26.600 --> 01:38:27.039 I gotta go. 1990 01:38:27.119 --> 01:38:31.600 All right, well, well tell people that can follow Carrie, 1991 01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:36.520 and again, we really appreciate you taking your time and 1992 01:38:36.920 --> 01:38:39.359 giving us your your personal appressure. This was a lot 1993 01:38:39.359 --> 01:38:39.680 of fun. 1994 01:38:40.159 --> 01:38:44.199 Yeah, I mean, I'm on Twitter x whatever, I'm on Instagram, 1995 01:38:44.199 --> 01:38:45.760 but I have those things kind of set to prise 1996 01:38:45.800 --> 01:38:48.600 it for for reasons. So I'll just say, if you 1997 01:38:48.600 --> 01:38:50.079 want to find me, go ahead and reach out to 1998 01:38:50.159 --> 01:38:51.880 Chris and then he can use it. 1999 01:38:52.159 --> 01:38:54.680 I can say that you can you can follow him 2000 01:38:54.680 --> 01:38:56.159 and he's okay. 2001 01:38:55.840 --> 01:38:58.239 Yeah, okay, exactly, so well. 2002 01:38:58.079 --> 01:39:00.560 Good, well, we'll we again appreciate just stop them by, 2003 01:39:00.640 --> 01:39:03.399 stay safe out there, and thanks for joining us. 2004 01:39:03.600 --> 01:39:06.720 Absolutely thanks for having meks listening to the rest of 2005 01:39:06.720 --> 01:39:07.600 the episode later. 2006 01:39:07.720 --> 01:39:08.840 Awesome, thanks. 2007 01:39:09.159 --> 01:39:09.880 I guess bye. 2008 01:39:11.239 --> 01:39:13.399 All right, we're gonna take our last ad break before 2009 01:39:13.439 --> 01:39:17.800 we get into Factor fiction and uh listener questions and 2010 01:39:17.880 --> 01:39:21.119 kind of wrapping up our evening there. Travis, Yeah, what 2011 01:39:21.239 --> 01:39:22.439 time is it there for you right now? 2012 01:39:22.479 --> 01:39:24.039 Buddy? Twelve twenty four? 2013 01:39:24.359 --> 01:39:26.279 Ah yeah, so we gotta wear at this up. Travis's 2014 01:39:26.279 --> 01:39:26.720 gotta get to. 2015 01:39:26.720 --> 01:39:29.640 Be Oh, I'm fine, I'm fine. I have worked off. 2016 01:39:29.920 --> 01:39:30.159 I know. 2017 01:39:30.279 --> 01:39:32.199 Yeah, it's said, but we want to make sure you 2018 01:39:32.239 --> 01:39:34.439 get that rest. So all right, listen, this is our 2019 01:39:34.439 --> 01:39:37.880 final ad break for the evening. As you know, the 2020 01:39:37.960 --> 01:39:41.720 drill ads get loud, you can turn the volume down. 2021 01:39:42.399 --> 01:39:46.720 They help pay for this network, so we uh yeah, enjoy, 2022 01:39:46.840 --> 01:39:49.680 enjoy the repeats of all the lovely ads that are 2023 01:39:49.680 --> 01:39:52.399 in your region. So three two one, we'll be right 2024 01:39:52.439 --> 01:39:59.439 back and we are back, all right, so let us 2025 01:40:00.199 --> 01:40:03.199 you know, I Brent put out the spidy signal on Twitter, 2026 01:40:03.279 --> 01:40:07.399 I put it out on threads, so we got one 2027 01:40:07.479 --> 01:40:12.000 question this week coming from oh yeah, yeah, factor f yeah, 2028 01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:13.840 factor fiction. So we got one. Yeah, we'll get the 2029 01:40:13.840 --> 01:40:17.399 factor fiction. We get to that. Amara Daniels always consistent, 2030 01:40:17.399 --> 01:40:22.079 always on there, one of our consistent contributors, asking, you know, wishing, Brent, 2031 01:40:23.279 --> 01:40:26.199 you know, every hoping everything went well and goes well 2032 01:40:26.239 --> 01:40:28.520 at that point and we wish we want him to 2033 01:40:28.520 --> 01:40:34.840 come back, but him asking what Marvel character did you 2034 01:40:34.880 --> 01:40:38.239 look up to as a child and why? So I'm 2035 01:40:38.279 --> 01:40:40.800 gonna let you first take that there, Travis, Well. 2036 01:40:40.720 --> 01:40:42.439 Chris is wearing him right there. 2037 01:40:43.159 --> 01:40:47.760 It's the Spider Man, of course, and honestly it's twofold. 2038 01:40:48.399 --> 01:40:51.119 He always did the right thing, and most of the 2039 01:40:51.119 --> 01:40:53.239 time when he did the right thing is it was 2040 01:40:53.319 --> 01:40:54.760 detrimental to his life. 2041 01:40:55.439 --> 01:40:56.720 It made his life. 2042 01:40:56.800 --> 01:41:00.600 Harder, it made it crappier, and it was just something 2043 01:41:00.640 --> 01:41:03.159 that I didn't see a whole lot of growing up. 2044 01:41:03.159 --> 01:41:06.119 In the other I was this is animation where I 2045 01:41:06.159 --> 01:41:09.279 first experienced these characters. So in the other ones you 2046 01:41:09.279 --> 01:41:13.159 didn't see as much how being a superhero affected their 2047 01:41:13.199 --> 01:41:16.199 day to day lives. Somehow it was easier to be 2048 01:41:16.239 --> 01:41:18.920 a hero like you can pull off both sides, whereas 2049 01:41:18.920 --> 01:41:21.720 Spider Man it always showed that it affected him. He 2050 01:41:21.760 --> 01:41:25.039 missaate on dates, but he's still always was Spider Man, 2051 01:41:25.119 --> 01:41:28.279 So yeah, it was spoder Man was my guy, always 2052 01:41:28.279 --> 01:41:29.079 will be my guy. 2053 01:41:29.199 --> 01:41:30.640 And just number one. 2054 01:41:31.359 --> 01:41:36.079 Yeah, kind of thinking about that, like which which one 2055 01:41:36.159 --> 01:41:38.239 kind of did that for me? I mean, that's it's 2056 01:41:38.279 --> 01:41:47.720 a good question. Marvel character you know, they're you know, 2057 01:41:47.800 --> 01:41:50.520 Spider Man, Yeah, I could, I could say that. But 2058 01:41:50.960 --> 01:41:54.920 one of those characters that and hence you know why 2059 01:41:54.960 --> 01:41:57.479 I've taken the nickname the Man without Fear is is 2060 01:41:57.520 --> 01:42:06.319 Matt Murdoch. Daredevil is someone that literally takes the idea 2061 01:42:06.359 --> 01:42:07.640 you know, I know, Steve Rodgers, I can do this 2062 01:42:07.680 --> 01:42:11.640 all day, like Matt has gone toe to toe and 2063 01:42:11.800 --> 01:42:16.119 keeps on getting up, taking that fighter's mentality, never giving up, 2064 01:42:16.319 --> 01:42:18.960 always getting you know, not always making the right move. 2065 01:42:19.039 --> 01:42:20.880 I don't think he's not. He is definitely not a 2066 01:42:20.880 --> 01:42:25.800 perfect character, not necessarily made the right choices, but his heart, 2067 01:42:26.279 --> 01:42:27.880 when it comes down to it, is in the right place, 2068 01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:31.199 trying to do what's right in his mind, for his friends, 2069 01:42:31.239 --> 01:42:35.479 for those around it, defending Hell's kitchen and doesn't want 2070 01:42:35.479 --> 01:42:39.119 necessarily anything but to keep the kitchen safe. And that 2071 01:42:39.279 --> 01:42:42.479 is that one has always been a personal favorite of mine. 2072 01:42:42.359 --> 01:42:45.159 So him being a hero on both sides of like 2073 01:42:45.319 --> 01:42:48.279 both identities is always something that I enjoyed as well, 2074 01:42:48.439 --> 01:42:50.840 because not only does he take the cases, most of 2075 01:42:50.880 --> 01:42:53.399 the cases he takes are pro bono. He doesn't exactly 2076 01:42:53.880 --> 01:42:57.000 take high end clients to make money. So yeah, he 2077 01:42:57.079 --> 01:43:01.560 says people twice. 2078 01:43:00.640 --> 01:43:02.800 And in the sense of I'll take it to another 2079 01:43:02.880 --> 01:43:05.640 level the X men, I mean half my question back 2080 01:43:05.640 --> 01:43:08.000 here behind me, This as a whole just of everything. 2081 01:43:08.039 --> 01:43:12.560 They represent the ideas of being different and knowing that, yeah, 2082 01:43:13.039 --> 01:43:15.880 just because you're different doesn't mean that you deserve to 2083 01:43:15.920 --> 01:43:18.319 be ostracized. You bring something to the table no matter 2084 01:43:18.359 --> 01:43:19.720 what your abilities are. 2085 01:43:20.039 --> 01:43:21.560 Everyone's special. 2086 01:43:21.880 --> 01:43:26.159 Yep, exactly, all right, So thank you Omar for that question. 2087 01:43:26.279 --> 01:43:28.000 And so let's get into factor fictions from a couple 2088 01:43:28.039 --> 01:43:31.600 of weeks ago. All right, we will see our first 2089 01:43:31.640 --> 01:43:34.760 full cast in person appearance and fantastic four at SDCC. 2090 01:43:35.239 --> 01:43:37.199 One hundred percent right, We got May made sure to 2091 01:43:37.239 --> 01:43:40.000 get that out before SDCC. So yes, one hundred percent right. 2092 01:43:40.479 --> 01:43:42.279 I'm not even gonna bother asking you, Travis, because we 2093 01:43:42.279 --> 01:43:45.279 already know what happened. We will not get a king 2094 01:43:45.439 --> 01:43:48.680 the Conqueror casting announcement at SDCC sixty nine percent in 2095 01:43:48.760 --> 01:43:51.960 fact thirty one percent fiction. You got that one as well. 2096 01:43:53.479 --> 01:43:57.720 Number three, we will get a new logo for Armor 2097 01:43:57.800 --> 01:44:01.960 Wars at SDCC seventy two percent in fact, twenty percent 2098 01:44:02.079 --> 01:44:09.399 in fiction. And you know, mister steal would say he 2099 01:44:09.720 --> 01:44:12.079 did say you'll get it, he did put up a 2100 01:44:12.399 --> 01:44:16.600 new logo for that, and said canceled because it's a 2101 01:44:16.600 --> 01:44:18.000 fake movie. 2102 01:44:18.239 --> 01:44:20.720 Well, oh my god, I can't believe you guys went 2103 01:44:20.760 --> 01:44:22.359 with that with him, because we're never going to hear 2104 01:44:22.359 --> 01:44:23.920 the end of that. At the moment that gets canceled 2105 01:44:23.960 --> 01:44:25.760 in a guy chat, it's gonna be like two days. 2106 01:44:25.760 --> 01:44:30.039 Oh yeah, that canceled. Yeah, I canceled arm Wars at 2107 01:44:30.039 --> 01:44:33.680 that point. And then finally from Anthony saying Hugh Jackman 2108 01:44:33.720 --> 01:44:36.520 will be the MCU cannon logan Wolverine and will not 2109 01:44:36.600 --> 01:44:39.920 be recast forty percent in fact sixty percent said fiction. 2110 01:44:40.039 --> 01:44:40.880 What say you to that? 2111 01:44:41.039 --> 01:44:44.640 So that's not one that I'm gonna say fiction unless 2112 01:44:44.680 --> 01:44:46.880 he loves being tortured and wants to be Wolverine. Into 2113 01:44:46.960 --> 01:44:49.800 sixty fives, I'm hoping that he eventually walked away from 2114 01:44:49.800 --> 01:44:52.960 the character with a nice send off here these two 2115 01:44:53.079 --> 01:44:53.800 final movies. 2116 01:44:55.039 --> 01:44:59.199 Yeah, so all right, as a guest you it is 2117 01:44:59.319 --> 01:45:01.119 up to you for factor of fictions this time. 2118 01:45:01.159 --> 01:45:01.840 So what you got? 2119 01:45:02.359 --> 01:45:02.479 So? 2120 01:45:02.720 --> 01:45:05.720 I added a few new ones to the catalog after 2121 01:45:05.760 --> 01:45:08.880 watching did Pull and Wolverine, So some of these may 2122 01:45:08.920 --> 01:45:13.359 be uh, coming off the back of the information we 2123 01:45:13.399 --> 01:45:16.000 got there. And the first one, of course, Tom Hollands 2124 01:45:16.000 --> 01:45:18.680 spoder Man will be the anchor being for Earth six 2125 01:45:18.840 --> 01:45:20.800 one six mm hmm. 2126 01:45:20.960 --> 01:45:29.680 He is the anchor being. I'm gonna go with false Okay, 2127 01:45:29.880 --> 01:45:32.680 now I'm gonna go fiction on that one. I'm gonna 2128 01:45:32.520 --> 01:45:36.479 he he's important. But I do not think. I think 2129 01:45:36.640 --> 01:45:39.880 our anchor being for this one is someone else. I'm 2130 01:45:39.920 --> 01:45:42.960 not I'm not ready. I have an idea. I'm not 2131 01:45:43.039 --> 01:45:45.399 ready to talk about that one yet because i'm still 2132 01:45:45.439 --> 01:45:48.239 not I'm not fully under percent. But I'm leaning in 2133 01:45:48.279 --> 01:45:49.159 a certain direction. 2134 01:45:49.439 --> 01:45:52.359 Against against because time stamped this and you could be right. 2135 01:45:52.760 --> 01:45:54.920 Nope, not ready yet, not ready to talk about it. 2136 01:45:56.600 --> 01:46:00.319 Number two, Miles Teller will appear as read Richard. 2137 01:46:00.279 --> 01:46:05.800 Again, Miles will appear as read Richards. 2138 01:46:06.399 --> 01:46:08.680 I'm smarter with these knife because there's not going to 2139 01:46:08.720 --> 01:46:10.760 be just a definite timeline so I could go back 2140 01:46:10.760 --> 01:46:11.479 in three years be like. 2141 01:46:11.520 --> 01:46:12.960 Ah, I told you that, I was right. 2142 01:46:16.680 --> 01:46:18.319 I think you could be on the council that we 2143 01:46:18.439 --> 01:46:22.840 eventually see that maybe helps us solve this whole dude problem. 2144 01:46:24.239 --> 01:46:26.000 I don't think we'll see that read. I don't think 2145 01:46:26.000 --> 01:46:27.760 we're seeing Miles Tellers. So I'm gonna go fiction out 2146 01:46:27.760 --> 01:46:29.920 of that one. I think we'd sooner see our original 2147 01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:31.119 read Richards from. 2148 01:46:31.000 --> 01:46:32.359 I thought we were gonna get both of them. 2149 01:46:32.399 --> 01:46:39.439 So I also see in Gambit really maybe think anything's possible. Yeah, 2150 01:46:39.960 --> 01:46:44.520 so Galactus will have no variance, just like American Shavass. 2151 01:46:45.439 --> 01:46:47.079 Galactus will have no variance. 2152 01:46:47.880 --> 01:46:49.279 He's just gonna be one being. 2153 01:46:55.239 --> 01:46:57.239 Yeah, I'm three for three this week. I'm saying fiction 2154 01:46:57.439 --> 01:47:02.399 just because I think he is. He is a celestial 2155 01:47:02.439 --> 01:47:06.479 in a way, and he's an offshoot of the celestials. 2156 01:47:06.520 --> 01:47:09.960 So I think that there is a Galactis in A 2157 01:47:10.079 --> 01:47:12.319 six one six, just we haven't seen him yet. 2158 01:47:13.079 --> 01:47:15.279 Okay, and the final one I put an extra one 2159 01:47:15.319 --> 01:47:18.760 in there. Oh, just great, Jessica Alba will return to Storm. 2160 01:47:19.439 --> 01:47:21.960 I say that's a fact. That's a fact for me. 2161 01:47:22.800 --> 01:47:24.760 It's the heart WANT said. And I think it's going 2162 01:47:24.840 --> 01:47:25.960 to happen I love. 2163 01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:28.560 Hakarri referred to Fantastic four. 2164 01:47:28.680 --> 01:47:31.479 The first person, he said, was Jessica Alba and we 2165 01:47:31.560 --> 01:47:35.000 went on from there. Anyone I ever here mentioned that 2166 01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:36.119 that's first cast member. 2167 01:47:36.479 --> 01:47:39.600 Well, what I'm saying, I think anchor being a Strange. 2168 01:47:39.600 --> 01:47:42.359 I'll reveal that's why I'm leaning towards. Actually, that's the 2169 01:47:42.359 --> 01:47:44.479 one I'm leaning towards. So you know you put it 2170 01:47:44.479 --> 01:47:46.600 out there, but yeah, that's the one I'm leaning towards. 2171 01:47:46.960 --> 01:47:49.000 Not there it, I have a few. I have one 2172 01:47:49.079 --> 01:47:51.199 or two other contenders right now, but Strange is someone 2173 01:47:51.239 --> 01:47:54.159 I'm I have a fifty one percent that that is 2174 01:47:54.199 --> 01:47:54.920 our anchor being. 2175 01:47:55.600 --> 01:47:58.760 Does spot Man even make the top five choices for you? 2176 01:47:58.880 --> 01:48:02.600 Oh goddamn god, I should consult with you before making. 2177 01:48:04.680 --> 01:48:05.600 No, not there yet. 2178 01:48:05.680 --> 01:48:07.199 So pretty definitive that one. 2179 01:48:07.479 --> 01:48:10.680 Yep, I'm very definitive on that one. So watch me 2180 01:48:10.760 --> 01:48:13.079 be wrong. That's fine. So Anthony did send in a 2181 01:48:13.119 --> 01:48:16.600 factor of fiction. He said, similar to Spider Man the 2182 01:48:16.600 --> 01:48:20.720 Home trilogy, the Fantastic for trilogy will be the Steps trilogy, 2183 01:48:21.159 --> 01:48:24.079 with the first movie being First Steps, sequels being next Steps, 2184 01:48:24.079 --> 01:48:28.880 and final Steps. No, I hope, so I don't want 2185 01:48:28.960 --> 01:48:31.880 to I don't want that. I know you probably said 2186 01:48:31.880 --> 01:48:35.039 that as I have to ask you. You can message 2187 01:48:35.079 --> 01:48:38.079 me after saying how serious are you is this? Are 2188 01:48:38.119 --> 01:48:40.640 you trolling us at this point because I can already 2189 01:48:40.640 --> 01:48:43.439 hear when mister when Travis is listening to this after 2190 01:48:43.479 --> 01:48:45.479 that point, he's gonna say, oh, please Dear God know. 2191 01:48:45.520 --> 01:48:47.199 And I'm the same way, Please Dear God know. 2192 01:48:47.560 --> 01:48:48.640 I want it to be there. 2193 01:48:48.840 --> 01:48:51.479 Just because of that, I can only imagine every news 2194 01:48:51.840 --> 01:48:55.079 today it will be similar to Ray and Brandt doing 2195 01:48:55.119 --> 01:48:58.600 the Birds of Prey and making through the whole. 2196 01:48:58.960 --> 01:49:03.359 I'd see you rather. I'd rather do that than that. 2197 01:49:03.359 --> 01:49:05.600 That just sounds like a baby walking at that point. 2198 01:49:06.159 --> 01:49:09.399 Yeah, I agree with you. That's side of healing. 2199 01:49:10.279 --> 01:49:13.079 So and then, and we said before, there's nothing says 2200 01:49:13.079 --> 01:49:14.439 they can't do a title change either. 2201 01:49:15.079 --> 01:49:16.119 Oh yeah, you. 2202 01:49:16.079 --> 01:49:19.920 Know, not because they footage, but this they'd always do. 2203 01:49:20.079 --> 01:49:22.319 They've done it before. They did it literally in a 2204 01:49:22.319 --> 01:49:27.239 comic Con panel. So not saying that that wasn't always 2205 01:49:27.239 --> 01:49:30.000 part of the plan. But we'll see. But yeah, thank you, Anthony, 2206 01:49:30.159 --> 01:49:34.359 And we will also post all five of the factor 2207 01:49:34.359 --> 01:49:38.279 of fictions this week. Let's see this the whips being 2208 01:49:38.359 --> 01:49:40.720 cheeky they followed the home trend with Spider Man, so 2209 01:49:40.760 --> 01:49:42.640 why not the same wast that stop it, stop it, 2210 01:49:42.880 --> 01:49:44.920 stop it ship. No, No, we're not. 2211 01:49:45.079 --> 01:49:45.359 We're not. 2212 01:49:45.680 --> 01:49:48.159 We're not creating inception and willing this and to exist 2213 01:49:48.159 --> 01:49:52.159 and stop it. Watch Prent be on the beyond the 2214 01:49:52.239 --> 01:49:54.279 trend of this. Okay, I'm gonna have to ask him. 2215 01:49:54.279 --> 01:49:55.159 This is gonna figure. 2216 01:49:55.680 --> 01:49:58.039 Well, I'll find out tomorrow morning after he listens to 2217 01:49:58.079 --> 01:49:59.960 this and sees if he's on that kind of train, 2218 01:50:00.199 --> 01:50:02.800 and I would say, I'm surround. I'm surrounded except for 2219 01:50:03.319 --> 01:50:05.640 others on this one. So but all right, well we'll 2220 01:50:05.640 --> 01:50:09.800 post those on Sunday, Sunday afternoon. Select your voices be heard, 2221 01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:13.159 and uh, well this was a very long episode at 2222 01:50:13.159 --> 01:50:16.520 that point. A good episode. And again want to thank 2223 01:50:16.960 --> 01:50:20.359 first Carrie for coming on and sharing his experiences in hallways, 2224 01:50:20.359 --> 01:50:23.159 and obviously Travis stepping in last minute for Brenda. Know 2225 01:50:23.239 --> 01:50:25.359 he sends his thanks, and as always I send you 2226 01:50:25.439 --> 01:50:27.359 thanks in the late night, and I'm glad you do 2227 01:50:27.439 --> 01:50:29.760 have a day off tomorrow so you can get a 2228 01:50:29.760 --> 01:50:32.079 little bit of extra sleep because I know you you 2229 01:50:32.159 --> 01:50:34.800 and uh probably going to get an early call from Oliver. 2230 01:50:35.439 --> 01:50:37.359 Oh one hundred percent but totally worth it. 2231 01:50:37.439 --> 01:50:40.319 Thank you Brent for asking me to fill in on 2232 01:50:40.359 --> 01:50:41.520 an episode with content. 2233 01:50:41.640 --> 01:50:43.960 Yes, actually yes, you have had a bad history on 2234 01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:46.840 this show where we have had been very light on content. 2235 01:50:46.960 --> 01:50:48.880 So this is this is I mean, can't. 2236 01:50:49.800 --> 01:50:51.920 Happened the following week like bring me up for she 2237 01:50:52.039 --> 01:50:54.760 Hulk episode fourth episode five? Ye? No? 2238 01:50:55.359 --> 01:50:58.399 So yeah, well again, tell people how they can follow 2239 01:50:58.399 --> 01:50:59.720 you unplug your shows on the network. 2240 01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:02.399 You can follow me on Twitter at Travis Underscore one 2241 01:51:02.520 --> 01:51:03.840 five six. You can drop me a line. We can 2242 01:51:03.920 --> 01:51:06.800 chat at pretty much anything. There's not much I don't love. 2243 01:51:07.520 --> 01:51:10.680 I also host two podcasts on the network, The Animation Nation, 2244 01:51:10.720 --> 01:51:13.439 where you take a look at a animation cross multiud 2245 01:51:13.439 --> 01:51:18.079 of fandoms. I put out yesterday or like two days ago, 2246 01:51:18.159 --> 01:51:22.520 sorry Wednesday, No, that was yesterday Wednesday. I put a 2247 01:51:22.560 --> 01:51:24.520 review for Justice League Crisis on it from the Earth's 2248 01:51:24.520 --> 01:51:24.960 Part three. 2249 01:51:25.279 --> 01:51:27.319 That was nice. To wrap that up. 2250 01:51:27.439 --> 01:51:30.319 I will recommend not listening to my podcast and not 2251 01:51:30.359 --> 01:51:32.359 watching the three part animated trilogy. 2252 01:51:32.399 --> 01:51:33.239 There hate saying that. 2253 01:51:33.520 --> 01:51:36.239 And I also host DC Alliance co host DC Alliance 2254 01:51:36.279 --> 01:51:39.680 on the podcast network as well Friday Nights Live on 2255 01:51:39.720 --> 01:51:40.800 the Peak Verse YouTube channel. 2256 01:51:41.439 --> 01:51:44.880 Absolutely, thank you for that, and you can follow me 2257 01:51:45.199 --> 01:51:49.880 on Twitter at Chris Balga. You can follow my other podcast, 2258 01:51:50.159 --> 01:51:53.319 World Find It's True Believers at Finest Believers dropped a 2259 01:51:53.319 --> 01:51:57.760 new episode with Omar from Near My Condition Looking at 2260 01:51:57.760 --> 01:52:00.760 Green Lantern Rebirth. Just dropped that on Sunday, so check 2261 01:52:00.840 --> 01:52:05.319 that out. That is episode ninety eight, the pendultimate episode 2262 01:52:05.600 --> 01:52:08.399 of Getting to Episode one hundred is coming, and the 2263 01:52:08.520 --> 01:52:11.600 question is who's the guest That episode has been recorded 2264 01:52:11.600 --> 01:52:14.479 and is ready to drop at the end of the 2265 01:52:14.560 --> 01:52:16.000 end of this month, So stay tuned. 2266 01:52:16.399 --> 01:52:18.359 That is a good question too with you because you've 2267 01:52:18.399 --> 01:52:22.119 had such a wide variety of guests from actual comic 2268 01:52:22.199 --> 01:52:25.560 creators to big dumb dumbs like myself, So who goes 2269 01:52:25.600 --> 01:52:26.239 who it could be? 2270 01:52:27.159 --> 01:52:30.399 And again, what is going to happen with episode one hundred? Interesting, 2271 01:52:30.479 --> 01:52:32.680 you know, let it out there at that point. So 2272 01:52:33.319 --> 01:52:36.720 but you can follow Brent at Brent tech Prime on 2273 01:52:36.800 --> 01:52:39.760 all the socials. You can email the show at Marvel 2274 01:52:39.800 --> 01:52:42.479 Alliance Podcast at gmail dot com. You can follow the 2275 01:52:42.479 --> 01:52:45.159 Gee Ultimate Alliance Network on Twitter at guapod network. Feel 2276 01:52:45.159 --> 01:52:48.039 free to tweet email from one of my feedback ask questions, 2277 01:52:48.039 --> 01:52:51.600 factor fictions. All dms are open, continue to rate and 2278 01:52:51.600 --> 01:52:54.279 review the Marvel Lize, Silvio feed on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 2279 01:52:54.319 --> 01:52:57.199 Amazon Music, wherever you get your podcasts. We greatly appreciate it. 2280 01:52:57.840 --> 01:53:00.279 We want to thank you. There's a great lively chat night. 2281 01:53:00.319 --> 01:53:03.000 Everyone for joining us. Thank you all for joining us live, 2282 01:53:03.479 --> 01:53:05.680 Thank you all for listening. Stay safe out there everyone, 2283 01:53:05.800 --> 01:53:11.159 and a stand the man would say, excelsior true believers, 2284 01:53:12.039 --> 01:53:16.920 all right, Travis. Post credits discussion, This is something that 2285 01:53:16.920 --> 01:53:19.039 we've kind of talked about on the show is Rumorville. Well, 2286 01:53:19.119 --> 01:53:23.199 this is an interesting one that Figy came on and 2287 01:53:23.279 --> 01:53:25.560 went on the record for something that you know has 2288 01:53:25.600 --> 01:53:27.159 kind of gone under the radar, So I kind of 2289 01:53:27.159 --> 01:53:29.159 wanted to bring it up as our post credits discussion, saying, 2290 01:53:29.239 --> 01:53:34.960 Kevin Figy reveals why Vision showrunner was chosen. So we 2291 01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:38.079 get a two fur in this one, not only that 2292 01:53:38.199 --> 01:53:42.600 the Vision series is happening, but that the showrunner for 2293 01:53:42.640 --> 01:53:44.039 this was also confirmed. 2294 01:53:44.119 --> 01:53:46.720 So and I'm sure you hated this when we find 2295 01:53:46.720 --> 01:53:49.279 out what this show runner did before, because I remember 2296 01:53:49.319 --> 01:53:50.880 you did quite enjoy this. 2297 01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:55.039 So yes, so Kevin Figi talking to Comic book dot 2298 01:53:55.079 --> 01:54:00.479 Com saying that, excuse me speaking to Inverse at this point, 2299 01:54:00.479 --> 01:54:03.279 but this is combook dot COM's covering it, so speaking 2300 01:54:03.279 --> 01:54:07.239 of Verse, the MCU architect explained why Terry Mattallis was 2301 01:54:07.279 --> 01:54:10.520 really the only person to bring bring back come on 2302 01:54:10.560 --> 01:54:13.920 board to bring back Paul bett New's hero. Figgy saw 2303 01:54:14.159 --> 01:54:17.279 Star Trek Picard and was floored by the level of 2304 01:54:17.399 --> 01:54:21.319 the show was operating on and Paramount Plus saw one 2305 01:54:21.359 --> 01:54:24.720 of their biggest wins with Picard. The MCU head man 2306 01:54:24.760 --> 01:54:28.520 noted as a Star Trek, he is a treky and 2307 01:54:28.560 --> 01:54:30.560 when it comes to the character study that pushes into 2308 01:54:30.560 --> 01:54:33.399 the future and retectualizes the past, there aren't many shows 2309 01:54:33.439 --> 01:54:37.720 like Picard for Vision. His absence has been felt since 2310 01:54:37.760 --> 01:54:41.479 the finale WandaVision. Hopefully the show provides an update. Figy says, 2311 01:54:41.800 --> 01:54:43.760 that's how I got to know him. It was an 2312 01:54:43.800 --> 01:54:47.359 amazing work he worked. He is the main show runner 2313 01:54:47.359 --> 01:54:50.720 for Picard season three. I said, this is incredible. I 2314 01:54:50.720 --> 01:54:53.159 don't know how this exists. Let me find out who 2315 01:54:53.159 --> 01:54:55.920 this person is. This moment is also significant because it's 2316 01:54:55.960 --> 01:54:59.199 the first time that Marvel Studios itself has acknowledged the 2317 01:54:59.279 --> 01:55:04.119 series and that the showrunner for this is Terry Mettalis 2318 01:55:04.119 --> 01:55:07.640 At that point. So the Vision Whites, no Vision Tiers, 2319 01:55:07.680 --> 01:55:09.840 whatever we want to call it at that point is 2320 01:55:09.880 --> 01:55:13.439 for real. Tara Mettallis is confirmed as the showrunner for this. 2321 01:55:13.840 --> 01:55:15.800 I have been when I first heard the rumor of this, 2322 01:55:15.880 --> 01:55:20.239 I said, yes, absolutely Picard the series as a whole 2323 01:55:20.279 --> 01:55:22.760 without standing. But season three, if you are a Trekky, 2324 01:55:22.920 --> 01:55:27.319 a next generation Trecky, season three was a love letter 2325 01:55:27.399 --> 01:55:29.920 to all of us, and I cannot believe how much 2326 01:55:30.000 --> 01:55:33.840 how well they stuck the landing for this. So Tarror Mettallis, 2327 01:55:34.680 --> 01:55:39.399 even before Picard season three, he is a great showrunner, 2328 01:55:39.479 --> 01:55:43.119 many accolades to his name, and I am so excited 2329 01:55:43.600 --> 01:55:46.960 about this. I know you're not necessarily a trek Ee 2330 01:55:46.960 --> 01:55:51.560 in that point, Travis, but you know necessarily maybe not Metallis, 2331 01:55:51.600 --> 01:55:54.680 but the idea of the vision Seiers being confirmed, what 2332 01:55:54.720 --> 01:55:55.640 are your feelings about that? 2333 01:55:56.199 --> 01:55:58.960 This is just showing again why Kevin Foggy he's cooking 2334 01:55:59.039 --> 01:56:04.520 all like he immediately knew from watching Pakias even three, 2335 01:56:04.640 --> 01:56:06.680 being like okay, yeah, this is the guy that needs 2336 01:56:06.680 --> 01:56:09.840 to do this just because of this, So I, as 2337 01:56:09.880 --> 01:56:14.039 with everything else, Kevin Foggy has my ultimate trust. He's 2338 01:56:14.079 --> 01:56:17.560 earned that with everything he's done, So I just think 2339 01:56:17.560 --> 01:56:20.800 it's great and imagine being being that guy and Kevin 2340 01:56:20.840 --> 01:56:23.119 Foggy's like, we got to have him, Like, I love 2341 01:56:23.199 --> 01:56:25.119 how what he did with here. You're like, dude, you 2342 01:56:25.199 --> 01:56:27.800 almost got as much barging power as like Toby Maguire 2343 01:56:28.159 --> 01:56:30.239 and those other people. Now that Robert and Junior is 2344 01:56:30.239 --> 01:56:32.399 locked in, you better Marvel better've already had those guys 2345 01:56:32.439 --> 01:56:37.800 locked in or they will be dishnated more dollars. So, uh, yeah, 2346 01:56:38.079 --> 01:56:39.840 I can't wait for this show to be asking Chris, 2347 01:56:39.840 --> 01:56:42.640 this is something that I was afraid might get lost 2348 01:56:42.800 --> 01:56:45.920 in the shuffle after in the post of post in 2349 01:56:45.960 --> 01:56:50.600 Game World. But yeah, especially with Scarlett Witch being looks 2350 01:56:50.640 --> 01:56:52.560 like on the shelf for a little while. 2351 01:56:52.640 --> 01:56:57.000 Now, Yeah, well we'll see, Yeah, we may get that. 2352 01:56:57.359 --> 01:56:59.119 You know, we've heard rumors that this is the show 2353 01:56:59.119 --> 01:57:01.279 that's as going to lean heavily into the Tom King 2354 01:57:01.359 --> 01:57:04.680 run another Tomkin project at that point, maybe a mix 2355 01:57:04.760 --> 01:57:07.640 of that. But yeah, I'm excited for the idea of this. 2356 01:57:07.760 --> 01:57:09.960 Like I said, Harry mettallis bringing down brings in it 2357 01:57:10.000 --> 01:57:12.399 a whole level of excitement and the expectations for this. 2358 01:57:12.520 --> 01:57:14.600 So when this show will come about I don't know. 2359 01:57:14.600 --> 01:57:16.520 We've got D twenty three, So the rumors of D 2360 01:57:16.600 --> 01:57:19.840 twenty three being a mainly focused on animation and the 2361 01:57:19.840 --> 01:57:22.640 Disney streaming side of Marvel looks to be true. Will 2362 01:57:22.680 --> 01:57:24.640 we get a more of a discussion of this D 2363 01:57:24.760 --> 01:57:26.199 twenty three We'll have to see. That's in a couple 2364 01:57:26.239 --> 01:57:28.319 of weeks as we begin that march on Marvel Alliance 2365 01:57:28.319 --> 01:57:33.199 towards that. Thank you all, ladies. And oh, Travisy Gott thought. 2366 01:57:33.520 --> 01:57:36.399 Yeah because when he said Nova the Nova interview, just 2367 01:57:36.399 --> 01:57:40.000 coming back to that, Nova doesn't have a director, like 2368 01:57:40.039 --> 01:57:41.840 a person in charge running it or. 2369 01:57:41.840 --> 01:57:42.680 Anything right now. 2370 01:57:42.800 --> 01:57:46.520 So I do think that this is going to come 2371 01:57:46.600 --> 01:57:47.960 in the next couple of years that they're going to 2372 01:57:48.000 --> 01:57:51.520 start filming out this. So yeah, and problem later. 2373 01:57:51.720 --> 01:57:54.199 Yeah, and Paul Bett need to confirm to a certain 2374 01:57:54.239 --> 01:57:58.359 member of our showed up Brent that he was planning 2375 01:57:58.359 --> 01:58:00.319 to come back at that point. So that's too, listener, 2376 01:58:01.159 --> 01:58:04.199 mister Brent tech brime. So all right, all, thank you 2377 01:58:04.199 --> 01:58:05.720 all for joining us for this long episode. I hope 2378 01:58:05.720 --> 01:58:07.800 you enjoyed it again. Thank you, Carrie, thank you everyone. 2379 01:58:07.960 --> 01:58:10.079 We will see you all next week. 2380 01:58:10.399 --> 01:58:12.640 Bye bye bye everyone,