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Speaker 1: the Hall h panel, you know, usually you know, we
Speaker 1: would break down this, but we did have a fellow
Speaker 1: mutual reach out to me letting me know that he
Speaker 1: would be on the floor and would be happy to
Speaker 1: come on and talk about his on the on the
Speaker 1: floor experiences. So I said absolutely, So we're going to
Speaker 1: bring him in right now. Everyone say a big hello
Speaker 1: to Carrie. How you doing, Carrie doing good?
Speaker 5: Guys, happy to be here.
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on, and yeah, tell the people
Speaker 1: a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 5: Born and raised in the San Francisco Bay area, you know,
Speaker 5: maybe between San Jose and San Francisco, kind of Silicon
Speaker 5: Valley area. Been out in Colorado for the last few years.
Speaker 5: And like like Chris, I'm also in the field of education,
Speaker 5: although that might be changing for me in the near future.
Speaker 5: We'll see. There's a lot of TBA the TVD to
Speaker 5: figure it out there. But yeah, most of my career
Speaker 5: has been an education as a teacher in the classroom.
Speaker 4: That is.
Speaker 1: That is great, and uh, tats off to you at
Speaker 1: that point, and what you know, it's like you said,
Speaker 1: things always changing, things always moving at that point, but
Speaker 1: obviously always wish everyone the best at that point. So
Speaker 1: talk to us about like SDCC so to kind of a
Speaker 1: little bit about yours. I know we talked to a
Speaker 1: little bit off air, But first question I have before
Speaker 1: we even get into the panel itself is how long
Speaker 1: you've been going? You know, some of your favorite kind
Speaker 1: of memories of hall.
Speaker 5: H twenty fifteen was the year I was first able
Speaker 5: to go. That was the year that me and my
Speaker 5: friend and my cousin were able to finally snag badges.
Speaker 5: I had tried a couple of years prior and no luck.
Speaker 5: You know, and everything you hear about how fast the
Speaker 5: badges for Comic Con sell out, you know, when the
Speaker 5: general sale happens, it's all. It all is true. At sale,
Speaker 5: you know, they sell out with if not within an hour,
Speaker 5: shortly after an hour. So it does just a matter.
Speaker 5: It's just a random selection process. And the fortunate thing
Speaker 5: is after you've been able to go, then your chances
Speaker 5: of getting a badge to increase if you're a returning member. Uh,
Speaker 5: even if you only scored like you know, one day
Speaker 5: from the initial sale, then you that you qualify for
Speaker 5: returning registration and uh you also you know, and there's
Speaker 5: other strategies and methods that have learned over the years
Speaker 5: of making sure we get badges for every year. So yeah,
Speaker 5: buying us the years where we're shut down for COVID H.
Speaker 5: I've been going every year since twenty fifteen. So and
Speaker 5: I can tell you also this, uh, you know, I
Speaker 5: would When I first started hearing about comic Con was
Speaker 5: probably around twenty ten to twenty eleven somewhere around there.
Speaker 5: And that was when you know, phase one of the
Speaker 5: MCU was in, you know, is on the on the upswing.
Speaker 5: You know, we were post Iron Man two. Uh, and
Speaker 5: you know, all the fans were speculating, is this is
Speaker 5: this you know, cinematic universe idea? Mike, he was one
Speaker 5: of my boys from the only guys I was with
Speaker 5: a comic con. You know that back then we were
Speaker 5: all wondering, how is this whole Avengers think going to work?
Speaker 5: How is this whole shared cinematic universe gonna work? Is
Speaker 5: people gonna connect with thor people connect with caps cap
Speaker 5: to outdated those kind of questions were all just looming
Speaker 5: and we just didn't know. And you know, twenty ten,
Speaker 5: I think was the area they had, you know, the
Speaker 5: panels for Captain America verst Avenger the first Thor movie,
Speaker 5: and then brought out the whole Avengers cast on stage
Speaker 5: long before they started filming. So that plus stuff related
Speaker 5: to DC, you know, not not being able to be
Speaker 5: there for the Man of Steel panel made me go like,
Speaker 5: I can't miss this anymore. I have to be there
Speaker 5: for these kind of things, So I want to be
Speaker 5: in the room for this level of hype and excitement
Speaker 5: and to be engaged with this material is really what
Speaker 5: what drove me to it and be able to see
Speaker 5: exclusive footage, see the cast on stage. Those have always
Speaker 5: been my motivating my biggest motivated factors. Plus but there's
Speaker 5: so many things to see and do in comic kind
Speaker 5: to make it a rich experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say like comic it's been one of
Speaker 1: those things at least for me that I've thought about it,
Speaker 1: but it's never been enough for me just because of
Speaker 1: I see, I'm not a like, I don't have an
Speaker 1: aversion of crowds or anything like that, but how much
Speaker 1: it's grown and gotten to a point where saying, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I even want to be in this
Speaker 1: kind of environment necessarily. And then with the strikes happened
Speaker 1: last year, that would have been the stc fee for
Speaker 1: me to go to because I you know, I love
Speaker 1: seeing all the Hollywood and TV stuff, but like I
Speaker 1: am all not saying you aren't, but the comic book
Speaker 1: creators and how it was such a unique show back
Speaker 1: to when it used to be the way it was,
Speaker 1: and how much everyone had said it was so unique.
Speaker 1: So last year would have been the year. But maybe
Speaker 1: one day I'll get out there and have the opportunity
Speaker 1: to go out there and maybe do some my own
Speaker 1: boots on the ground for a Gigletimate alliance. That would
Speaker 1: be kind of fun.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I was there last year and it did
Speaker 5: have a different It was still everyone was still happy
Speaker 5: and excited to be there. Yeah, but you know it
Speaker 5: did have a different vibe and feel without all the
Speaker 5: big Hollywood studios for movies and TV. But you know
Speaker 5: that there was just the focus was back on the comics.
Speaker 5: Like Scott Snyder is my favorite comic book writer, so
Speaker 5: I had to be able to, you know, get signed
Speaker 5: by him. Meet with him, and that kind of stuff
Speaker 5: is always really fun. So yeah, so I went to
Speaker 5: Wonder for a couple of years before I was able
Speaker 5: to start going to comic Con. So it definitely has
Speaker 5: that kind of smaller feel in that regard, but still
Speaker 5: feel like you're part of a big size convention where
Speaker 5: there's a lot of energy to be there with the
Speaker 5: other fans.
Speaker 4: So did you know did you.
Speaker 3: Know Marvel was going to like do a big presentation
Speaker 3: before you decided to go back this DCC this year,
Speaker 3: or were you already going?
Speaker 4: Nope, regardless, I wouldn't.
Speaker 5: I knew I was going regardless, So that was always
Speaker 5: I I would have been really surprised if they decided
Speaker 5: to skip one of the talk tracks that I'm sure
Speaker 5: you guys have speculated off and on or comments on
Speaker 5: here and there. You know, anytime there's a d twenty
Speaker 5: three year, I feel like the pundits always want to say, well,
Speaker 5: this is near Marvel will skip because they won't cost
Speaker 5: them money to go. But like Kevin Figey, I think
Speaker 5: has made it pretty darn and clear that he values
Speaker 5: the comic, the San Diego Comic Con experience, even if
Speaker 5: there's a d twenty three year and they're just gonna
Speaker 5: find a way to do both. If they have if
Speaker 5: they have material to share, like if they have footage
Speaker 5: to show, if they have cast to an ounce and
Speaker 5: bring on the stage and you know, answer a couple
Speaker 5: of questions, and if they have announcements to make, like
Speaker 5: any casting announcements or things like that. If they have
Speaker 5: something to talk about, they're going to be there. But
Speaker 5: if there, if it's a year where they're needed to
Speaker 5: put a pause button on things, or if it's in
Speaker 5: between you know, before like you know, like obviously in
Speaker 5: between Intrity New War An Endgame they did where they
Speaker 5: skip twenty nineteen. Uh wait, no, twenty eighteen for obvious reasons.
Speaker 5: Uh so you know I and so yeah, the times
Speaker 5: where they do skip always sort of seem to make
Speaker 5: sense when you look at the nature of the way
Speaker 5: things are releasing. So they so historically they're they're both
Speaker 5: for Comic Comic Con and D twenty three. So there
Speaker 5: really wasn't any question, especially since they weren't able to
Speaker 5: go for the reasons for the strikes last year, there
Speaker 5: was really no doubt in my mind that they would
Speaker 5: be showing up nice.
Speaker 1: Well good, We'll let us get into kind of like
Speaker 1: your experiences down there this year at that point, I
Speaker 1: know you said you wanted to kind of talk about
Speaker 1: there was a little difference unique experiences this year between
Speaker 1: kind of you know, they surprised everyone and it wasn't
Speaker 1: just the standard hall Ah panel before, but they decided
Speaker 1: to do a surprise presentation and do a dead Pool
Speaker 1: Wolverine panel that basically turned into let's all watch the
Speaker 1: movie together with the stars of it at that point.
Speaker 1: But yeah, talk about kind of talk about your experiences
Speaker 1: before we get into the actual hall Ah panel.
Speaker 5: Sure, And for anyone who's listening who has always heard
Speaker 5: things about Comic Con over the years, all the stories
Speaker 5: you hear about, you know, people camping out, having to
Speaker 5: wait a whole day in line, or having to form
Speaker 5: groups in order to wait in line in order to
Speaker 5: get into Hall h All, that is absolutely one percent
Speaker 5: true and accurate. So that is very much a thing
Speaker 5: of people start they Comma consecurity plants a next dayline
Speaker 5: flag at some point in the marina that's on the
Speaker 5: kind of the backside of the convention center, and even
Speaker 5: as as early as basically I don't know, I don't know,
Speaker 5: I forget what time they did this year, but like
Speaker 5: eleven o'clock eleven pm Thursday, since people wanting to go
Speaker 5: into Friday's events had already been moved up to where
Speaker 5: they need to be and given wristbands to make sure
Speaker 5: they were gonna get priority to get inside the Saturday
Speaker 5: hal Age, people started lining up at that point. So
Speaker 5: it is, you know, the fans are very eager to
Speaker 5: make sure they're getting in line at at a good point,
Speaker 5: to get a good spot in line and to get wristbands,
Speaker 5: and so I didn't tell you where you're gonna be
Speaker 5: in the room. More or less the thing that Marvel
Speaker 5: did very differently this year. When the panel schedule was
Speaker 5: announced about two weeks before the con, there was this
Speaker 5: slot on Thursday night for haul Age that said just
Speaker 5: said TBA, like just no clear indication of what the
Speaker 5: panel was for, who that was for, what studio if any,
Speaker 5: was going to be there for it. And then around
Speaker 5: the time when in one of the press releases where
Speaker 5: you know, not only did Marvel Studios officially confirm that
Speaker 5: they were going to be there on Saturday Saturday night
Speaker 5: is their usual time slot, which was no different this year,
Speaker 5: but then it was in more or less in that
Speaker 5: same breath or shortly afterwards that they announced that the
Speaker 5: Thursday TBA panel was going to be this Deadpool and Wolverine.
Speaker 5: I think they called it a celebration of Life panel,
Speaker 5: and not only but they were going to do it
Speaker 5: run it differently the way that Comic Con normally does
Speaker 5: it is if you go in, if you get into
Speaker 5: the panel, whole age or any panels really, any panel
Speaker 5: rooms throughout the convention center. They don't clear the rooms
Speaker 5: in between panels. So if you get there, if you're
Speaker 5: there for the very first panel, you can choose to
Speaker 5: stay there the whole rest of the day. No one's
Speaker 5: going to care. Okay, you might if you leave and
Speaker 5: come back, you might have trouble getting back in, depending
Speaker 5: on what it is, but you can stay the whole
Speaker 5: day inside there basically. So the difference was for the
Speaker 5: Thursday night think they did clear the room before that
Speaker 5: Deadpool wool room because they made it where you had
Speaker 5: to like go on a certain website or some kind
Speaker 5: an RSVP and to try and fast forward to Thursday
Speaker 5: night itself. I mean, I wasn't in that line. I
Speaker 5: didn't manage to RSVP on the link in time for it,
Speaker 5: but I did manage to go see it at a
Speaker 5: movie theater with a friend of mine down in San Diego,
Speaker 5: which was fun. But the major thing I heard was
Speaker 5: that it for as many things as comic con does
Speaker 5: right in terms of everyone who'd had RSVP'd, not everyone
Speaker 5: got inside, even though they knew the numbers of the hall.
Speaker 5: Ah hold sixty five hundred people, so they should have
Speaker 5: known exactly how many people are getting it in. But
Speaker 5: there were people who are svp'd who didn't get in,
Speaker 5: and I think it's because at some point they stopped
Speaker 5: scanning the RSVP notices, or I think a lot of
Speaker 5: people are probably screamed me it took screenshots of their
Speaker 5: RSVP notice and shared it with their friends. Of the
Speaker 5: friends who didn't actually try or didn't get it could
Speaker 5: now go in. And they just didn't do a very
Speaker 5: good job of monitoring that line. And I guess the
Speaker 5: organization that line was just really really off base compared
Speaker 5: to like how a comic con normally manages their lines
Speaker 5: and getting people in, So that was a bit of
Speaker 5: a different ordeal. Yeah, Marvel's never never had any kind
Speaker 5: of like RSVP system for any panel before, so that
Speaker 5: was definitely a unique thing for this year. I think
Speaker 5: it's because they screened the movie. They're inside with you know,
Speaker 5: sixty five hundred fans and the other thing that I
Speaker 5: missed out on. I wish I'd been around and outside
Speaker 5: for it. But they did put on Around the time
Speaker 5: the panel, the Deadpool and Wolverine panel wrapped, they put
Speaker 5: on a really cool drone light show around somewhere in
Speaker 5: the sky around the convention center that showed not just
Speaker 5: you know, Deadpool and Wolverine, but like other I think
Speaker 5: that had the Fantastic Four logo, It had Galactis an
Speaker 5: outline of his head and things like that. So a
Speaker 5: really cool feature that they got to do to continue
Speaker 5: just to drive a more hype and excitement.
Speaker 1: That's cool. Yeah, and it's interesting. You know, again, they
Speaker 1: probably learned a lot from this new experience they tried.
Speaker 1: They tried to do and again a cool experience that
Speaker 1: people weren't necessarily thought they would do with the movie
Speaker 1: coming out. But maybe you know, again they're you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, the uh if Fantastic four First Steps
Speaker 1: and stc C lineup as well as it Dead pul
Speaker 1: Wolverine line up with the show next year, but it's
Speaker 1: around the same time, so we'll just have to see.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, let's get into actual hall h and
Speaker 1: kind of the breakdown discussions and hear what you saw
Speaker 1: at that point, and Travis and I will kind of
Speaker 1: jump in and kind of since we were the outsiders
Speaker 1: looking and watching Twitter feeds and other people talk about it.
Speaker 1: So I know they first up. They they brought up
Speaker 1: a Brave New World. Now, the trailer did drop a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago at that point, and I remember when
Speaker 1: I saw dead Pool Wolverine, they took out you know, Isaiah, Isaiah,
Speaker 1: he saw him take out the gun. But they definitely
Speaker 1: cut away from the shooting of Thunderbolt Ross due to
Speaker 1: a recent event, which totally get but you know, it's
Speaker 1: one of those things that I get it, but it's
Speaker 1: also like, yeah, this is a conflict movie. I don't
Speaker 1: think you know, in this case, we're gonna be so
Speaker 1: but neither here nor there. But so yeah, Brave New World.
Speaker 1: We got the cast on the stage. We got a
Speaker 1: great moment with Harrison Ford being the incredible I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm a Harrison fort He is my number one favorite
Speaker 1: actor of all time, and I love it when he
Speaker 1: hams it up on stage like that and does that.
Speaker 1: But you know, get we'll talk about it kind of
Speaker 1: what you saw that because we know you all saw
Speaker 1: footage and that kind of like footage mixed in with
Speaker 1: kind of a think it was like a kind of
Speaker 1: a splash reel at the end.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So the way they did it was, first of all,
Speaker 5: they kicked off the whole h panel. They had all
Speaker 5: sorts of dancing Deadpools dancing up and down the aisles.
Speaker 5: You know too, I think I forget the name of
Speaker 5: the song, but it's one of them on the songs.
Speaker 1: Probably uh uh, you know, like the prayer song.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So so they had a variety of dancing Deadpools
Speaker 5: up and down the aisles that had a whole choir
Speaker 5: on stage that came out singing the song as well too,
Speaker 5: uh to kind of just to get fans, get us
Speaker 5: all hyped and excited for them starting.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: Then Kevin Faige came out and he brought on uh,
Speaker 5: he brought on I forget the name of the actor,
Speaker 5: but Peter from the Deadpool franchise, and he served as
Speaker 5: the moderator for the whole thing. He's the one that
Speaker 5: asked questions of Kevin fig and the cast members as
Speaker 5: they brought or it came out at various points so
Speaker 5: for all throughout the evening. So uh so, yeah, that's
Speaker 5: how they created the excitement for everything. And I can't
Speaker 5: remember the order of things exactly. I want to say
Speaker 5: they led with the extended footage, Okay, that they might
Speaker 5: have brought out the cast for I can't remember the order.
Speaker 5: If they brought out the cast first and talked a
Speaker 5: little bit about and then the footage that they kind
Speaker 5: of led in with the with the Captain American Bravey
Speaker 5: World footage. But I can tell you this, I was.
Speaker 5: It was like probably a good six or seven minute
Speaker 5: stretch of a stretch of footage that they showed us,
Speaker 5: so very much like an extended trailer. The start of
Speaker 5: it was actually kind of a complete scene that was
Speaker 5: between between Ross and Sam and them conversing and them
Speaker 5: talking about the whole thing of you know, wanting to
Speaker 5: make Captain American official military position again and the nature
Speaker 5: of that conversation. So the footage blew my mind. It
Speaker 5: was fantastic. Is it really just has cemented for me
Speaker 5: that this movie, for a long time has been one
Speaker 5: of my most anticipated MCU projects coming up. I love
Speaker 5: Anthony Mackie as Sam Wilson in the role. I love
Speaker 5: the falcon A Winter Soldier series, and so I'm really
Speaker 5: really excited for what they got coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, from what we kind of am reading from a
Speaker 1: book dot com, Brandon Davis kind of a breakdown, saying
Speaker 1: in the footage, Harrison Fort's President Ross explains how when
Speaker 1: the celestial mass emerged from the Indian Ocean, humans squabbled
Speaker 1: over it and tried to export resources. He explains the
Speaker 1: new element belongs to all of us, which I kind
Speaker 1: of talked about in the trailer, saying, like my theory
Speaker 1: is uh. He says that, but I think it's the
Speaker 1: Japanese first late claim to it and seems to be
Speaker 1: where this alliance is coming from. Moments later, the President
Speaker 1: and Sam talked about their past disagreements which he just said,
Speaker 1: and desire to rebuild the Avengers. They discussed what will
Speaker 1: happen when they disagree how to man situation. Sam gets
Speaker 1: a new suit in the next clip, leading to a
Speaker 1: sizzle reel. Sidewinder locks and loads and calls out standby
Speaker 1: for proof of death before shooting at Sam. Tense footage
Speaker 1: brings Sam out. Ross wants the entire thing put to bed.
Speaker 1: Sam isn't happy with that cut to an action seeing
Speaker 1: Sam flying chasing around Tia Mutt. But I think the
Speaker 1: biggest thing we got confirmation on is you all heard
Speaker 1: the words adamantium in the footage, and so yeah, now
Speaker 1: that is the that is the mirror, that is the
Speaker 1: resource that seems to be all has all this world
Speaker 1: now with Twitter.
Speaker 5: Yeah that hearing Harrison Ford as President Ross out of
Speaker 5: the word adam antium, my jaw dropped. There was very
Speaker 5: much like a you know, I have my phone. Actually know,
Speaker 5: we phones were put away obviously at that point because
Speaker 5: they wanted us to make sure we weren't filming.
Speaker 1: You had your phone, some people didn't.
Speaker 5: It was it was you know, it was on, but
Speaker 5: it was turned down so that once the footage stops,
Speaker 5: so I could bring the camera back up and report
Speaker 5: what's happening on stage. But I was very much like
Speaker 5: an O grab moment of that reveal. I would never
Speaker 5: a million years have guessed that they were going to
Speaker 5: use the celestial to explain how adam anti where adamantium
Speaker 5: comes from? Uh. In the Marvel Cinematic nuver. So seeing
Speaker 5: them connect those dots and and and you know that's
Speaker 5: how they're introducing that into this world. That was so through.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh my gosh, that's awesome. So that
Speaker 5: was a great moment.
Speaker 4: Was it a crowd pot for that? A lot of
Speaker 4: people are like, Okay.
Speaker 5: A lot of people went on that's for that one.
Speaker 1: What you now hearing all this? Travison, you're kind of
Speaker 1: two cents on what she experienced with this particular part
Speaker 1: of the panel, Brave New World. What are your kind
Speaker 1: of your thoughts on not only just Adamantium, but what
Speaker 1: was kind of shown out there.
Speaker 3: I'm with Carrie too. Even before going into this, I
Speaker 3: was digging this. I really enjoyed Falcon the Winter Soldier
Speaker 3: in the series, and I'm right there with you with
Speaker 3: Anthony Mackie. I can't wait to see Ridhole like the
Speaker 3: one little thing we got of him in the trailer,
Speaker 3: and then just seeing how Ali and Harrison forty is
Speaker 3: like being in the panel, like getting up and screaming
Speaker 3: and like being into it. I can't wait to see
Speaker 3: this performance. So I can't wait to see also what
Speaker 3: who the different factions that are going to be going
Speaker 3: after Adamantium, because it's not just gonna be the ones
Speaker 3: that we're gonna hear it before we go in.
Speaker 4: There's gonna be definitely.
Speaker 3: Somebody on the back burner trying to play the streams
Speaker 3: for this.
Speaker 4: So I can't wait. It's just so much to this film.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh foot Media saying do we think Harrison
Speaker 1: Ford knows what adam antium means for the MCU. You know,
Speaker 1: we'll take we'll assume the line is what he said
Speaker 1: recently during an interview with a question like this, saying
Speaker 1: I really appreciate the opportunity to answer this and I
Speaker 1: take it with two ways dignity and uh indignity at
Speaker 1: that point, and I don't care is what so this
Speaker 1: interviews is Uh, I think they need to learn that
Speaker 1: it's gonna he is gonna be respectful, but at point
Speaker 1: do you ask a question like that you know he
Speaker 1: doesn't care about Yeah, he's gonna let you have it.
Speaker 1: But we also got that confirmation and uh, John Carles
Speaker 1: Bosito was right when he said that no one had
Speaker 1: guessed it right and we were he he was true
Speaker 1: to his word that he is playing the leader of
Speaker 1: the Serpent Society Sidewinder and everyone's i know, on our
Speaker 1: child's like, Okay, now I've got to look this up
Speaker 1: at this point because that is a deep pull. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to get the comic accurate
Speaker 1: suit for mister Sidewinder at that point. But the fact
Speaker 1: that he also said that he's going to be in
Speaker 1: an unannounced Disney Plus show as one of the leads
Speaker 1: is going to be very interesting to see if we're
Speaker 1: going to get that at D twenty three some confirmation
Speaker 1: of that. But but yeah, Sidewinder as one of our
Speaker 1: main antagonists next to the leader in this one? How
Speaker 1: do we all feel about that?
Speaker 4: Didn't the Serpent Society get cut out?
Speaker 3: Like they had stuff that was filmed originally with like
Speaker 3: that seth Rollins guy and other so they changed that around.
Speaker 1: He is cut out of the movie from what we understand.
Speaker 1: I believe his wife is rumor has it that she
Speaker 1: is still in it, but he has been cut out
Speaker 1: of it. And I think that's an unfortunate history of
Speaker 1: mister seth Rollins with being cut out of certain shows.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, so Serpent Society is still in there,
Speaker 1: maybe in a very in a different role, which is
Speaker 1: when they brought in John Carlo into it. So, you know,
Speaker 1: I like giohn Carlo. I've been a big fan since
Speaker 1: his beginnings. At that point, I have, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of followed his career before Breaking Bad. But hey, that's
Speaker 1: a prestige actor. I wish one day, though, we will
Speaker 1: see him in his kind of haiti right now, not
Speaker 1: being a villain. I know he can do it. I've
Speaker 1: seen him not be a villain, but I mean it
Speaker 1: brings him the money.
Speaker 5: So I always referred to the first time I saw
Speaker 5: John Carlo as Spiezio and something was in the Usual Suspects.
Speaker 5: He was an FBI agent, yep, And so that was
Speaker 5: my first and I remember thinking, this guy is really good.
Speaker 5: I like this guy. I like I want to see more.
Speaker 5: It's one of my buddies there. Yeah, he's I didn't
Speaker 5: get into Breaking Bad when everyone else's and I haven't
Speaker 5: watched the entire series. I've seen only a few episodes
Speaker 5: with him in it, but I've loved everything he's been
Speaker 5: in whenever I've seen it, whether it's like the Boy,
Speaker 5: these are other stuff. So yeah, but he was a protagonist,
Speaker 5: at least in in the that short bit he was
Speaker 5: in the usual suspect, so would be cool to see
Speaker 5: him return. Anyways, his energy, uh, everyone's energy on stage
Speaker 5: was fantastic, like he was excited. Uh Anthony Mackie is
Speaker 5: you know, he's a he's a showman. He's a ball
Speaker 5: full of energy. And also the funny thing was once
Speaker 5: Harrison Ford came on stage, because Harrison Ford didn't come
Speaker 5: on until a little bit later after they write out
Speaker 5: him and the other guys. And and also I'm forgetting
Speaker 5: that the guy we've plays Samuel Stearns, the actor was
Speaker 5: playing Tim Tim. Uh yeah, yeah, so they were on
Speaker 5: the stage and Harrison Ford came out, came out a
Speaker 5: little bit later. But dude, Anthony Mackie was ribbon on Harrison.
Speaker 5: I heard he was. He was, he was throwing some
Speaker 5: throwing some comments his way uh to really to to
Speaker 5: not really rough salt in the route, but you know,
Speaker 5: to you know, play with their you know their and
Speaker 5: their you know, probably antagon between each other in the movie.
Speaker 5: And then Harrison Ford's like, see, I've been dealing with
Speaker 5: this for last year and a half or something like that.
Speaker 5: You know, so yeah, the way that you know, Harrison
Speaker 5: Ford just kind of pretends to hulk out, you know,
Speaker 5: and in the moment it was just got everyone everyone
Speaker 5: excited and cheering and whatnot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Tim Blake Nelson. Yet that's correct,
Speaker 1: and he's saying that they were super over dramatic about
Speaker 1: how secretive his character was. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people were disappointed because they made everyone think it was
Speaker 1: going to be a massive role and how secretive it was. Yeah, again,
Speaker 1: they they'll play it up at that point, get some
Speaker 1: the taglines, and when it was like, it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you're right, no one would guess it, you know.
Speaker 1: The GW Bridge was an interesting guest still was if
Speaker 1: that ended up being was like, okay, I'll wait till
Speaker 1: I see it. What wasn't necessary my Bengo card. So
Speaker 1: but all right, let's let's kind of transition into the
Speaker 1: Thunderbolts and see and kind of talk about that. So
Speaker 1: Thunderbolts asterix. You know, I don't even know we're gonna
Speaker 1: call it the Thunderbolts with an asterix. What was kind
Speaker 1: of your experiences on the floor with that?
Speaker 5: So most of the cast comes out and then when
Speaker 5: they announced David Harbor, he doesn't come out on stage
Speaker 5: from the usual spot that everyone else does, and they're like,
Speaker 5: David Harbor, David, where are you? And then all of
Speaker 5: a sudden he comes out on the side. So he's
Speaker 5: walking through the aisles on the you know where we're
Speaker 5: all sitting, and he's in his red Guardian costume and
Speaker 5: he's not in character. Well maybe I think he maybe
Speaker 5: was in character at first. And then as he gets
Speaker 5: closer to the stage, he looks at all the rest
Speaker 5: of the cast is like, wait a minute, you guys
Speaker 5: aren't in costume. You guys promised me, we went with
Speaker 5: this is comic Con. You promised me we would all
Speaker 5: show up in costume. I'm so embarrassed. And and he's like
Speaker 5: throwing your jabs at your verbal jabs at like at
Speaker 5: Sebastian stan and and other people in the cast and whatnot,
Speaker 5: and even Florence. And then as he's walking off to
Speaker 5: the side later to get out of costume, he's like,
Speaker 5: I can't believe that Florence pew, she's a and you know,
Speaker 5: says some other says something the matter and whatnot. So
Speaker 5: he was so much fun to see him like ham
Speaker 5: it up in character like that, and yeah, just it's
Speaker 5: always fun. When ever the actors, whenever they show up
Speaker 5: someone in character, at least in costume, it's always a delight,
Speaker 5: and you know, it's part of the whole thing. Here's
Speaker 5: the thing I want to say about Marvel Studios as
Speaker 5: a whole with their whole age panels, and I think
Speaker 5: not everyone. I don't know why this doesn't get communicated
Speaker 5: more often. Marvel Studios treats their hall age panel. They
Speaker 5: treat it like a rock concert, like they really do.
Speaker 5: They're trying to create that same sense of excitement of
Speaker 5: you're there to see this really unique performance that you're
Speaker 5: not going to see anywhere else, and it says this
Speaker 5: unique window of time in this unique spot. And you know,
Speaker 5: I do believe Kevin Figy is a showman. You know,
Speaker 5: he's not the one in all the time or even
Speaker 5: the majority of the time on the panel, but he
Speaker 5: knows how to work the crowd, he knows how to hype,
Speaker 5: he knows how to build excitement and connect with the
Speaker 5: audience that way. So I really do think this is
Speaker 5: all the presentation and the way that actors come on stage,
Speaker 5: some showing up in costumes, some not, or the way
Speaker 5: they show footage or then they announce certain character reveals.
Speaker 5: It is all part of the whole thing of like
Speaker 5: it's creating this rock concert feel of an experience when you're.
Speaker 1: There, and that would make sense. I mean, Travis, what
Speaker 1: do you kind of feel about that? I think that's
Speaker 1: a pretty accurate statement.
Speaker 3: That's basically what you want for his DCC if I'm
Speaker 3: being asked with you just to be have a shared
Speaker 3: experience like that rock concert.
Speaker 4: Same thing with movies.
Speaker 3: He knows when he speaks about movies, he talks about
Speaker 3: the shared experience, So it would make sense carry that
Speaker 3: he makes extra effort to ensure that's like quite.
Speaker 4: An experience for people.
Speaker 3: This might be the one time you get to Hollege.
Speaker 3: Some people might not go every time. So I'm sure
Speaker 3: he's cognizant of that as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so Thunderbolts, what the footage they showed you?
Speaker 5: The footage they showed it starts off you might even
Speaker 5: you might have somebody written for the help with it,
Speaker 5: but like it starts off with Yolena going and finding
Speaker 5: her father and he's kind of been into shovel apartment
Speaker 5: and you're living on his own kind of like a
Speaker 5: slob and he tries to clean the place up when
Speaker 5: he realizes it's her at the door, and she proceeds
Speaker 5: to say, I need you to help me with something,
Speaker 5: and I forget what other things that she says. But
Speaker 5: then it kind of cuts to this series of kind
Speaker 5: of checking in with the various characters like you like
Speaker 5: John Walker, who else Winter Soldier? And then it ultimately
Speaker 5: coalesces into all the majority of the characters showing up
Speaker 5: in one room with each other. No one knows who
Speaker 5: they are, they don't they've never met each other, never
Speaker 5: encounter each other, and of course it's just a fight ensues,
Speaker 5: a big, big group fight of them all fighting each
Speaker 5: other from one angle and the other, going from one
Speaker 5: opponent to the next, not really realizing but the room
Speaker 5: was like closed up, so they're kind of caught and
Speaker 5: trapped in there, and and I think eventually the room
Speaker 5: opens up a little bit and then all, yeah, ghosts
Speaker 5: shows up and so yeah, no one knows what to
Speaker 5: do with ghosts because of her power set. So it's
Speaker 5: just such cool like it there definitely feels very you know.
Speaker 5: The thing I always liked about the Black Widow movie
Speaker 5: and the action in the Black Widow movie or even
Speaker 5: Winter Soldier Captain America, the Winter Soldier. I love that,
Speaker 5: like Jason, that Bourne identity style, fighting, of that kind
Speaker 5: of choreography, and that level of visceral intensity that is
Speaker 5: very much echoed and matched here among the various characters
Speaker 5: of The Thunderbolts, at least in that first scene when
Speaker 5: they're all kind of, you know, brought together. They don't
Speaker 5: know why they're they're They're each kind of there for
Speaker 5: one reason that the other person doesn't know about. And
Speaker 5: I think it's ultimately Valentina's schemes of getting them all together.
Speaker 1: And oh, you can't you can't even say her name,
Speaker 1: you can't even think it.
Speaker 5: I didn't call her, you know, I said, I said Valentina,
Speaker 5: So I.
Speaker 1: Followed, that's even crossing the line, that just even cross. No,
Speaker 1: you can't even think it, can't say it, can't think it,
Speaker 1: don't even acknowledge it at that point.
Speaker 5: Julia Louis Dreif is a character.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 5: She shows up on screen and then proceeds to start
Speaker 5: talking to them. I can't remember the specifics of what
Speaker 5: she said.
Speaker 1: Yeah she I think she says something to the effect
Speaker 1: of from what I'm looking at here, and what I
Speaker 1: remember from other descriptions of it, like she says, you know,
Speaker 1: you're not good guys, You're not they're good guys, and
Speaker 1: then there's bad guys, and then there's worse and you
Speaker 1: are not good and you know, so basically everyone keeps
Speaker 1: up saying, oh, this is Marvel's version of the Suicide Squad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of in a way it is. In a way
Speaker 1: it isn't.
Speaker 3: More established characters like characters we've seen before in them.
Speaker 1: We'll put those in quotes to what we've.
Speaker 3: Seen, sorry, characters reappearing characters, whereas in Suicide By the
Speaker 3: first one or the second one, well, besides a couple
Speaker 3: Harley Quinn and Boomerang, but for the most part and
Speaker 3: Captain flat Air Joe.
Speaker 5: It's sort of the idea of like taking these characters
Speaker 5: that are have been supporting characters in other movies and
Speaker 5: maybe like lesser known characters and just kind of throwing
Speaker 5: them in this big melting pot and sort of seeing
Speaker 5: the stew that that comes out of it. I'm really
Speaker 5: excited for because I mean, I'm looking forward to even
Speaker 5: that this wasn't in the footage. This is just my
Speaker 5: own speculation of you know, what's the conversation between Yolena
Speaker 5: and Bucky gonna be like, well.
Speaker 1: William then and Chad at that point he said he
Speaker 1: was attacked by Carrie and he demands, justin what did
Speaker 1: you do to William?
Speaker 5: I just you know, he was I think there was
Speaker 5: a line. It wasn't the normal studios panel it was.
Speaker 5: It was I think it was trying to get into
Speaker 5: the Jim Lee spotlight panel. And I was just he
Speaker 5: was I think he was either honest, but his face
Speaker 5: was down. And then I went up to him. I
Speaker 5: was like, hey, man, I might have tapped him on
Speaker 5: the shoulder or something like that kind of took him
Speaker 5: by surprise.
Speaker 1: So good to see William. Yeah, but it was the
Speaker 1: other part of the footage they talked about was Buck
Speaker 1: entering a courtroom US agent looks at news articles about himself,
Speaker 1: you know, disc you know, discount of Steve Rogers, discount
Speaker 1: Captain America Lan another Hallway fight, remnisson of Iron Man two,
Speaker 1: Black Widow fight. We see ghost so I mean, we
Speaker 1: see Bob entering wearing a hospital gown. So they're still
Speaker 1: not acknowledging that Lewis Pullman is a century They still
Speaker 1: not acknowledging that even though everything we know is pretty
Speaker 1: much pointing to that signal outside of the firm up nature,
Speaker 1: but it is I'm curious. I mean, Century is kind
Speaker 1: of an interesting character to bring into the MCU, especially
Speaker 1: with the you know, his condition as it were, So
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see exactly this team possibly
Speaker 1: going toe to toe with the Century, which is what
Speaker 1: I'm basically kind of feeling, is you know, inevitable in
Speaker 1: this movie.
Speaker 5: It seemed to me like because he introduces himself as
Speaker 5: Bob and they're like Bob, He's like just Bob or whatever.
Speaker 5: I feel like that was kind of, at least for
Speaker 5: the audience, kind of a throwback to his character in
Speaker 5: Top Gun Maverick and just kind of the idea of like, oh,
Speaker 5: there's there's really nothing, you know, he's trying to present
Speaker 5: it as what you see is what you get, sort
Speaker 5: of a thing like there's really no era of mis Well,
Speaker 5: obviously we know there's more mystery to him in this
Speaker 5: with Thunderbolts, but you know, on that Top of Maverick,
Speaker 5: he's just Bob. He's a regular guy.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: So I feel like they're trying to put on that site.
Speaker 5: They're trying to frame it in that same mindset here.
Speaker 5: And also Lewis Pullman, he didn't he didn't say anything
Speaker 5: on stage, like he didn't answer the questions or anything
Speaker 5: like that. He was just there to wave and smile.
Speaker 1: But so what do you think about this? Travis from
Speaker 1: Twip saying, is is Bob the target that each of
Speaker 1: the Thunderbolts are after?
Speaker 3: That would make sense to if because it could be
Speaker 3: the one that Helene is after, because she could be
Speaker 3: trying to carry it a contract and that might bring
Speaker 3: her into this whole thing. It sounds like Valves just
Speaker 3: trying to assemble them to go after her. But I
Speaker 3: do think some of these characters could be going after
Speaker 3: her initially, initially going after Bob initially before the Thunderbolts
Speaker 3: get into action.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and William says Claire forgot he was on his
Speaker 1: way to the DC all Access Chanda when you were
Speaker 1: costed and you better be careful, Carrie, you know lawsuits
Speaker 1: may be coming.
Speaker 5: Well he's bigger than you, so.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would say, like all in all, my
Speaker 1: level right now, my level between both of the like
Speaker 1: Brave New World and Thunderbolts Brave New Roles is a
Speaker 1: step above right now with underbus I'm curious about Thunderbolts.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not one of these people. Oh, they are
Speaker 1: a whole group of people that have all the same,
Speaker 1: like all the similar kind of things like that doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily you know, you're not missing it wrong, But that's
Speaker 1: kind of low hanging fruit. I'm just more of like,
Speaker 1: what's bringing them together, what's the big story and how
Speaker 1: is this connecting to the overall kind of MCU of
Speaker 1: where it is, because right now this is not something
Speaker 1: that in my opinion, right now, I don't see how
Speaker 1: it connects to the multiverse saga I right now, see
Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see what the asterisks is supposed
Speaker 1: to reveal. My big thing is is asterisk dark Avengers.
Speaker 1: You know, this is the most Avengers like movie that
Speaker 1: we've had in since the end of PA three.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: So yeah, they didn't, Yeah, they didn't specify this in
Speaker 5: the Brave New World footage. They did show talk about
Speaker 5: They did show Ross talking to Sam about creating a
Speaker 5: new Avengers team of some kind, so did they did?
Speaker 5: They did have that conversation the middle that footage, So
Speaker 5: just kind of knowing where these things are in sequence
Speaker 5: with each other. It seems to me like, you know,
Speaker 5: Ross wants to get Captain America back in play. He
Speaker 5: wants an Avengers team, and then at the same time,
Speaker 5: Valentina de Fontaine what however her complete name, She's taken
Speaker 5: it upon herself to form her own team because she's
Speaker 5: been able to make connections between all these people in
Speaker 5: her own way. So I feel like they're both of
Speaker 5: them independent of each other, are trying to sort of
Speaker 5: like answer the question of where are the Avengers. Who
Speaker 5: are the Avengers post end game? You know, who are
Speaker 5: the people?
Speaker 1: But he knows and we're still not going to know
Speaker 1: by the end of this year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but no.
Speaker 5: But but even within the even within the narrative of
Speaker 5: the Marvel Cinematic universe, I feel like the Thunderbolts is
Speaker 5: sort of attempting to address that. Oh yeah, their own degrees,
Speaker 5: I agree, And going back to what he said, like,
Speaker 5: you know, not worrying about the you know, I'm not
Speaker 5: stressing about the fact that they they're what their different
Speaker 5: power sets are. A lot of them are you know,
Speaker 5: kind of winter or kind of you know, inter soldiery
Speaker 5: like or very super spied like Yeah. Yeah, but like
Speaker 5: I'm interested in seeing like is Yelena below, We're gonna
Speaker 5: look at Bucky and say, you're the one who tried
Speaker 5: to shoot my sister. Yeah, like you know, or you
Speaker 5: try to kill my sister multiple times and like it's
Speaker 5: like you say, you're not that guy anymore. But I
Speaker 5: don't know, you know, So I'm looking forward to like
Speaker 5: that kind of dynamic or you know, it's like, oh,
Speaker 5: you were you know Red guardment, like you were Captain
Speaker 5: America's best friend on him about his war stories and
Speaker 5: like he's going like, dude, you were never there or
Speaker 5: something to that effect. So I'm just really interested in
Speaker 5: this melting pot of personalities and the character dynamics that's
Speaker 5: gonna ensue U.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: The footage definitely got me exciting and got me interested.
Speaker 5: Like I'm very curious. I very much want to see this.
Speaker 5: It'll be really cool to go from from Brave New
Speaker 5: World into this. I think that's kind of a natural sequence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Johnny Sagam in the chat saying Julie lwithz Drif's
Speaker 1: character probably lied to all of them to get each
Speaker 1: one of them to do the job, and their survival
Speaker 1: is the trap to test them to join the Thunders.
Speaker 1: I would agree with that.
Speaker 4: What do you got?
Speaker 3: Also, she also capitalized on a lot of these people
Speaker 3: when they were at the lowest too, So like did
Speaker 3: she she didn't have to pitch a lot of them
Speaker 3: like the US agent.
Speaker 4: He didn't have anywhere else to go. He was going
Speaker 4: to jail essentially exactly.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but yeah, it'll be it'll be interesting to
Speaker 1: see at that point. But we're gonna take her first
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Speaker 1: the Fantastic Four, that's what we learned. That's what we
Speaker 1: knew the movie was gonna be titled. And then we
Speaker 1: got the title after the footage was shown as The
Speaker 1: Fantastic Four First Steps. And if I had to say
Speaker 1: a big miss right now of this of this entire
Speaker 1: panel that landed with a big thud and a fart
Speaker 1: and the wind was that title that subtitle I the
Speaker 1: First Steps. I said, well, I'm okay with them. I
Speaker 1: totally get why they needed to do a subtitle when
Speaker 1: this would be the fourth movie of third or fourth
Speaker 1: movie with that, you know, the Fantastic Four. You just
Speaker 1: want to get tired of put the years by it.
Speaker 1: So I'm okay with a subtitle. And I'm sure the
Speaker 1: first steps, meaning in the sense of like the first
Speaker 1: steps of what they're doing and things like that, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be some it's gonna make sense. But I would
Speaker 1: list I would have been totally I think there are
Speaker 1: better subtitles, and this, in my opinion, would have been
Speaker 1: the First Family, you know, or something along the lines
Speaker 1: of that, or even Fantastic or Flame On or you know,
Speaker 1: so something along the law, something along the line. But
Speaker 1: I would have been fine with the First Family. So
Speaker 1: but uh, kind of what you uh? What did would
Speaker 1: you kind of see? I know, I think this is
Speaker 1: the one that a lot of us saw people leaking
Speaker 1: the footage out, So I think, you know, Travis has
Speaker 1: seen that, I've seen it. You know, we got our
Speaker 1: first look at Galactus h very quickly. I am more
Speaker 1: shocked knowing that they started getting together, Like, well, was
Speaker 1: it like Tuesday, Monday or Tuesday before SDCC that they started.
Speaker 1: I think it was the previous weekend. Actually they were
Speaker 1: starting uh filming and they got to London even though
Speaker 1: we were told they weren't going to start principal photography
Speaker 1: until the Monday or Tuesday after SDC, So they were
Speaker 1: doing something and they assembled something like that. That shows
Speaker 1: me that they've known exactly what they were getting ready
Speaker 1: to do and that this is more put together than
Speaker 1: people think.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they're definitely pre vid stuff done to this
Speaker 3: and already ideas of what they want to do, like
Speaker 3: they had the story locked in live before they decided
Speaker 3: to do this.
Speaker 4: So I agree with you.
Speaker 3: Christ if I had definitely done a lot of legwork
Speaker 3: before starting this, how about you care.
Speaker 1: Based on what you saw on the floor.
Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, I was really impressed by what they
Speaker 5: showed as far as the footage goes, because I didn't
Speaker 5: expect anything. I expected some images of concept art, like
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 1: And the cast. We got the cast.
Speaker 5: We got the cast coming out, which I was like,
Speaker 5: that's all I anticipated with what they would do is
Speaker 5: just bring the cast out and have them talk about
Speaker 5: their roles a little bit and say yeah, we're excited
Speaker 5: to start filming, and then kind of that be that.
Speaker 5: But the fact that they had a test real which
Speaker 5: really did it felt like a legit teaser to me. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it had the I'm surprising. I didn't know I'd gotten leaked.
Speaker 1: There were definitely a number of people either taking screenshots
Speaker 1: and I definitely said it was like three or four
Speaker 1: different angles of the full thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I got on TikTok and it was there.
Speaker 3: The full trailer was on there, like okay, like my
Speaker 3: second thing.
Speaker 4: I scrolled it was like.
Speaker 1: You played by the rules care We appreciate that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but hey, I say, you know what, you want
Speaker 5: to put out a lesser, lesser quality version of it.
Speaker 5: I got to see it on a big screen with
Speaker 5: amazing sounds, so.
Speaker 3: I with the descriptions for all three trailers, so it
Speaker 3: didn't matter as much, but I'm like, okay, what is.
Speaker 5: This it was really having. What was really cool I
Speaker 5: thought was like it had that nineteen sixties TV grain,
Speaker 5: Like if you're watching a television set you know back
Speaker 5: in the back in that time, you know, it would
Speaker 5: have that kind of grainy look and feel to it
Speaker 5: just because that's that's how those TVs worked or whatever.
Speaker 5: So it was kind of neat that I was filmed
Speaker 5: in that fashion. Uh, you know, you got read Richard's
Speaker 5: teaching a classroom, of teaching physics in the classroom to
Speaker 5: some degree, you're showing them and you didn't see them
Speaker 5: in there. I don't remember the showing them in their
Speaker 5: Fantastic Four costumes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I think, yeah, they they've definitely kept that.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're ready to show that. I think
Speaker 1: that's going to be probably our first official either that's
Speaker 1: gonna leak out of set footage or that they're going
Speaker 1: to keep that interrapted until the first real teaser.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean seeing them they get getting into
Speaker 5: the space suits to go off onto the launch, launching
Speaker 5: in a space that they're going to do, seeing the
Speaker 5: general dynamics between the various members, and especially seeing Read
Speaker 5: talk about you know, Ben Grimm and saying Ben Grimm's like,
Speaker 5: you know, the best pilot he's ever known. I think
Speaker 5: that was part of the footage there. And yeah, just
Speaker 5: the very just the tone of it was was cool,
Speaker 5: and I was like, I was just so impressed. I'm
Speaker 5: like because it was a good two to three minute
Speaker 5: long reel that they showed us, so kind of what
Speaker 5: you just mentioned, like the fact that they filmed what
Speaker 5: just seems like almost like this is like the test
Speaker 5: footage of them, you know, of the characters interactor or
Speaker 5: maybe them or maybe this is like, hey, we are
Speaker 5: going to do some kind of pre production filming that's
Speaker 5: not going to be part of the movie, but we're
Speaker 5: filming it specifically for Comic Con and then incorporating some
Speaker 5: of the other like the tag. Like the last shot
Speaker 5: of that footage is probably what you has been seen
Speaker 5: and talked about, is like just like this, like the
Speaker 5: upper half of Galactus's face like lower himself down and
Speaker 5: peering into like the window of a building of some kind.
Speaker 5: And when that shot happened and everyone was like.
Speaker 1: You, I mean, hey, we don't get a fart cloud anymore.
Speaker 1: So the fact that we see but I mean, the
Speaker 1: voice of who Galactus is gonna be? Man, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I loved it in The Green Night Man. He is
Speaker 1: going he is a perfect casting for the voice of Galactus.
Speaker 5: I agree. Yeah, Oh sorry, go ahead, no, go ahead, No,
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say just the I was kind
Speaker 5: of like shoot the footage they shows, I want that
Speaker 5: to be in the movie. I hope at the very
Speaker 5: least they included as a special feature, uh, you know
Speaker 5: for Disney Plus or Blu Ray, you know, feature it
Speaker 5: or something like that. So but I mean, I think
Speaker 5: you're I think you're spot on that. Like they've known,
Speaker 5: they've had this cast for a long time. They've known,
Speaker 5: and they've behind the scenes secretly without you know, been
Speaker 5: able to cobble together this you know, bit of filming
Speaker 5: and test footage and kind of maybe this is what
Speaker 5: they were putting together or maybe this was a Matt
Speaker 5: Scheckman trying to put together something to say, this is
Speaker 5: the vibe and the tone and the field what we're
Speaker 5: going for with this movie. Even if this isn't the
Speaker 5: actual this isn't what we're actually gonna start filming, you
Speaker 5: know now.
Speaker 1: So so do you think the whole movie Travis from
Speaker 1: foot Media saying, do you think the whole movie will
Speaker 1: be in four to three and have that retro grain
Speaker 1: or do you think this was just kind of an
Speaker 1: aesthetic choice just for they may put this in trailers,
Speaker 1: but that's not how the movie is actually going to
Speaker 1: be I'd.
Speaker 3: Put my body as they put They're just gonna put
Speaker 3: it in trailer. It's gonna be power of the marketing.
Speaker 3: The whole power of the marketing is gonna be this
Speaker 3: sixty vibes.
Speaker 5: I could I could see it maybe like in the
Speaker 5: first few minutes of the movie, kind of in the
Speaker 5: same way that like the this in the Iron Man two,
Speaker 5: you had the Stark Expo with you know, footage of
Speaker 5: Howard Stark talking about the Stark Expo when he first
Speaker 5: you know, set it up and whatnot. So I could
Speaker 5: see them doing that kind of thing to kind of
Speaker 5: sort of help bring you in the world, because it
Speaker 5: does have that nineteen sixties retro fuel, like the way
Speaker 5: that people in the you know sixties imagined what the
Speaker 5: future would be like, like when you go to Disneyland
Speaker 5: or Disney World and you go to tomorrow Land and
Speaker 5: the ascetic of what the future kind of looked like
Speaker 5: when the park was originally built, or the Jetsons. You know,
Speaker 5: it's got it's got that feel, it's got that aesthetic
Speaker 5: to it, that new the New York skyline that they're
Speaker 5: going for and the nature of technology. So it's the
Speaker 5: kind of thing that you know Howard Stark wish could
Speaker 5: have in the in the you know, in the six
Speaker 5: one six MCU Howard Stark wish could have happened in
Speaker 5: the next ten twenty years but didn't actually pan out
Speaker 5: that way, but it did on this earth. So yeah,
Speaker 5: I just I think the foot As really captures that
Speaker 5: unique thing, and I hope, I imagine they'll probably be
Speaker 5: something in the beginning of the movie that kind of
Speaker 5: shows that to just try to really and that'll be
Speaker 5: their way to really tell the audience that, like, this
Speaker 5: is part of the multiverse. This is not the same
Speaker 5: as where phases one through three or phrase four even
Speaker 5: took place. This is a completely new world and get
Speaker 5: ready to go along for this really wonderful ride.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very curious in the sense of seeing I
Speaker 1: got excited for the movie. I mean, I'm not gonna lie,
Speaker 1: but I am not a Fantastic Four uber fan. It's
Speaker 1: definitely one of those that you'll probably you don't see
Speaker 1: my collection just because I read them. I like them,
Speaker 1: but it's not one that's saying, oh, I love the
Speaker 1: Fantastic Four. I read them enough to know a lot
Speaker 1: about them, but it's not a part of my best
Speaker 1: favorite parts of Marvel.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my exposure is mostly just like the nineties animated
Speaker 5: series that ran for a brief period alongside the Iron
Speaker 5: Man series.
Speaker 3: They did a really good animated series I want to
Speaker 3: say between two in twenty ten that was I think
Speaker 3: it was just one season, might be two.
Speaker 4: That was really good.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of good polls there and took
Speaker 3: it quite serious.
Speaker 5: It was nice. And I'm sure you guys have talked
Speaker 5: about this to some of or another, like, I mean,
Speaker 5: you know, I like the first two you know, Fantastic
Speaker 5: four movies at Fox with you know, Jessica Alba and
Speaker 5: and Vic Mackie from The Shield, Michael Chickliss. You know,
Speaker 5: I like those movies well enough.
Speaker 1: It served the time, It's movies of its time, of
Speaker 1: the of the nineties and there.
Speaker 5: But they were inherently kind of cheesy too also, and
Speaker 5: I don't I don't think you needed to be. And
Speaker 5: so I really kind of I'm looking forward to the
Speaker 5: level of sincerity that that Marvels always had with their
Speaker 5: projects that they're going to bring to it while still
Speaker 5: you know, being in this retro sixties timeline and and
Speaker 5: you know, being that first family and that's the thing
Speaker 5: that cast very much mentioned. They talked a lot about
Speaker 5: this is a family. This is that makes them a
Speaker 5: really unique dynamic as opposed to like any other teams
Speaker 5: that have been put together.
Speaker 1: Well, and I think the big thing that we've I've said,
Speaker 1: and I'm not the only one who's said this, I
Speaker 1: can't essarily a claim to it, is that we've had
Speaker 1: We've had a great Fantastic four movie. It's called The Incredibles.
Speaker 1: And even even Michael Giacchino Giachino even brown up that
Speaker 1: point because he's the composer for it, and he says,
Speaker 1: I really have to find a way to differentiate, which
Speaker 1: I know he's an amazing composer and director within his
Speaker 1: own right that he's going to find a way. But
Speaker 1: I can understand, like he's the one who did that
Speaker 1: and that music and that one. He was there composer,
Speaker 1: so he kind of put forth that effort, so now
Speaker 1: he has to differentiate that and make it its own
Speaker 1: unique thing. And we did kind of get that hint
Speaker 1: for you, uh with kind of the music that was
Speaker 1: hat for the Drone Show, So we do see that.
Speaker 1: But William and the Chad saying I have more of
Speaker 1: an event event feeld for Fantastic Four that just began shooting.
Speaker 1: Then I do Superman, which is just wrapped so up.
Speaker 4: You can't put a you can't do a panel.
Speaker 3: It's just not possible for people to in the middle
Speaker 3: of shooting to take a day off and come and
Speaker 3: do a panel and show even just a clip of
Speaker 3: Superman flying.
Speaker 4: It's just too much. It is too much, just too much, William.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're You're not wrong. You're not wrong William
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 3: You're definitely marketing one O one William, but common sense
Speaker 3: one on one.
Speaker 4: Why would you know?
Speaker 1: We've heard enough of William. He is our marketer in
Speaker 1: the house on the vodka stream at that point. He he,
Speaker 1: He's got everyone's number when it comes to how you
Speaker 1: appropriately do this stuff. So I trust William and I
Speaker 1: agree with him on this point.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and you know, it's not like it's not
Speaker 5: like you didn't do it for another for It's not
Speaker 5: like that didn't happen for another Cosmic group back in
Speaker 5: twenty thirteen for all Age. Anyways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's get to the final the final part.
Speaker 5: Before that, though, I have to talk about how as
Speaker 5: they were wrapping up and they said, Okay, these guys,
Speaker 5: you guys got to get back to London and go
Speaker 5: start filming, and and they brought in the Fantastic car. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and it is actually like hovering inside of Hall h
Speaker 5: you know, I couldn't see the wires necessarily, but like, yeah,
Speaker 5: comes in from the side and then kind of hovers
Speaker 5: over over the stage and whatnot. So just the fact
Speaker 5: that that's how they decided to cap the Fantastic four panels,
Speaker 5: like by having like a hover car actually floating above
Speaker 5: the audience there in hally Ah just was it was.
Speaker 5: It was wonderful, It was it was magic.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, I just threw up in my mouth.
Speaker 1: With the Incredibles, You're welcome. William absolutely like he's gonna
Speaker 1: he's gonna crush it.
Speaker 5: He is, and I really do think it. And also
Speaker 5: like just the pairing of Matt Shackman with what he
Speaker 5: did with one division, him directing the the FF this
Speaker 5: cast they have and Giacchino, like just all the elements
Speaker 5: of like this just is going to come together to
Speaker 5: be something I think really really.
Speaker 1: Special, That's what I'm saying. Imagine they had Herbie come
Speaker 1: out there and escort the cast out stage, kind of
Speaker 1: like RTG two in the Hall. Yeah, I mean we're
Speaker 1: all waiting to see exactly who is going to be
Speaker 1: the voice of Herbie.
Speaker 4: So we've got they couldn't put him.
Speaker 3: They couldn't put Johnny in one of the animated series
Speaker 3: back in the day because he would flame on, so
Speaker 3: they put the roboty in. Yeah, as as the fourth person.
Speaker 1: That was a good way to end it. That that
Speaker 1: what really was. And so we we end with the
Speaker 1: big announcement at that point that had leaked earlier in
Speaker 1: the week that the Russo's are coming back to Marvel.
Speaker 1: Uh Ifigy brings him on stage, and they are not
Speaker 1: only just going to be direct there directing both Avengers
Speaker 1: movie kind of how they did before. We get the
Speaker 1: new title for Avengers five no longer the King Dynasty,
Speaker 1: it is now called Doomsday, and then Avenger Secret Wars
Speaker 1: is still Avenger Secret Wars, but with Doomsday would get
Speaker 1: this green light going all over at that point, and
Speaker 1: they made the statement like, you know, it's one of
Speaker 1: Marvel's most illustrious and most celebrated characters ever. And I
Speaker 1: think when it said that the hall was turning green,
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen the title yet, so I said, the
Speaker 1: halls turning green? Are we talked about the Hulk? You know,
Speaker 1: it's a celebrated character. I don't know if we've heard
Speaker 1: rumors of World War Hulk. I hadn't seen the title yet.
Speaker 1: A Doomsday. Oh, they're talked about Doom and then they
Speaker 1: bring all these do I mean, what was it like
Speaker 1: to seeing, you know, after the Risks come on, Like
Speaker 1: you see all these basically doom bots or doom like
Speaker 1: bots at that point come on stage. Did you think
Speaker 1: you were going to get the like a reveal of
Speaker 1: who Doom was going to be?
Speaker 5: Well, this just shows you that they how well they
Speaker 5: know how to put on a show. They set all
Speaker 5: the pieces of this up perfectly. So we're already on
Speaker 5: a high from the previous three movies right that they
Speaker 5: announced and talked about in the cast being out. And
Speaker 5: then they have the kind of a clip reel of
Speaker 5: the four Russo brothers MCU movies, uh to say, yeah,
Speaker 5: the Russo's are back. The Russo's come out on stage,
Speaker 5: and then they talk about how they really did think
Speaker 5: that after Avengers End Game that they were done, that
Speaker 5: they were they were emotionally and even as a fan,
Speaker 5: as just as fans, they were tapped out. They put all,
Speaker 5: they put everything they had into Avengers Intrenia or an
Speaker 5: Avengers endgame, and I think the proof is in the
Speaker 5: pudding on the screen. So they did say we genuinely
Speaker 5: were done, and then the time went by, they did
Speaker 5: some other creative things and it's just and then the
Speaker 5: opportunity of the conversation circle back to them and they
Speaker 5: said that we've been masked. Lifelong Marvel Comics fan, and
Speaker 5: Secret Wars was our I think they've said a multiple
Speaker 5: times like the Secret Wars was one of their favorite series,
Speaker 5: or maybe the series that got them introduced to the
Speaker 5: world of Marvel characters and comics. So so they talked.
Speaker 5: So they said the emphasize initially, yes, we're coming, We're
Speaker 5: directing Marvel's Secret Wars. And they said, but there's a
Speaker 5: thing we have before we can tell that story. There's
Speaker 5: a completely other story that we have to tell with
Speaker 5: one of these more or leustrious characters. And then the
Speaker 5: lights kind of go down, you get the green shimmering light,
Speaker 5: and then you get that kind of what felt like
Speaker 5: choral music being being played in the those multiple doctor
Speaker 5: Dooms and costume walking out on stage, and and then
Speaker 5: the Avengers Doomsday logo showing up. The crowd goes nuts.
Speaker 5: Everyone was going like, oh my gosh, yeah, going crazy
Speaker 5: for it, shouting, cheering, and then and then they, you know,
Speaker 5: the lights go back on to Joe and Anthony Russo
Speaker 5: and Kevin Figi, and you know, they and they say,
Speaker 5: you know, they talk about the fact that they're in
Speaker 5: a multiverse and Victor von Doom is such an important
Speaker 5: character within the multiverse that and they did say, they
Speaker 5: did say Victor von Doom, they didn't call him Doctor
Speaker 5: Doom yep. And uh. And then they said, and so
Speaker 5: because of that, we need the greatest, most talented, you know,
Speaker 5: the most important actor, the greatest actor of our generation. Uh,
Speaker 5: there's only one person who could play this character. And then,
Speaker 5: you know, for then one of the Dunes receipts to
Speaker 5: walk forward, pulls off the mask and it's Robert Downey Jr.
Speaker 5: And once, as as expected, the crowd just goes insane
Speaker 5: with excitement and cheers and applause and standing ovations.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, I love his line. New mask, same task
Speaker 1: at that point, And there's something to that thing. That
Speaker 1: says same task there. There is something to that as well. Travis,
Speaker 1: what was your kind of first reaction. You know, I've
Speaker 1: already said my my reactions on Live when it happened,
Speaker 1: I audibly, uh, definitely dropped a little bit of profanity
Speaker 1: at that point, because at the moment I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't I can't believe if that's happening.
Speaker 4: You just echoed my thoughts.
Speaker 3: Chris, I was like, oh my god, I had no idea.
Speaker 3: I'm coming back to one question for Carrie. Was this
Speaker 3: possibly one of the lightest reactions you've ever experienced at
Speaker 3: Holly h Oh.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, it is very much up there. There's probably only
Speaker 5: you know, there's only in my years of going there's
Speaker 5: probably a couple of times where you can, you know,
Speaker 5: I wish I had a decibel meter or some kind
Speaker 5: it gives like, oh, we've got higher decibels on this
Speaker 5: one than this one. But no, like that one probably
Speaker 5: ranks up there with I know for me, the Batman v.
Speaker 5: Superman footage, or like the year one of the years
Speaker 5: I wasn't there when Zack Snyder announced Batman v. Superman
Speaker 5: with you know, Harry Lennox reading a portion from the
Speaker 5: dark Air term the logo reveal, the way the crowd
Speaker 5: was going, ut, it was probably kind of on that level,
Speaker 5: to be honest, I can't remember the excite the crowd
Speaker 5: cheering that loudly in twenty nineteen when they did the
Speaker 5: whole Phase fours slate reveal, But everyone came out of
Speaker 5: that room just like I cannot believe what we're getting
Speaker 5: now posting game and the roadmap that's been laid out
Speaker 5: for us was just so exciting.
Speaker 1: So uh, Flips, asking, did you notice anyone kind of
Speaker 1: visibly disappointed by the reveal?
Speaker 5: Not around me and certainly not that I can discern
Speaker 5: it in the room. I saw reactions online for sure.
Speaker 5: I saw I won't name drop, but like another podcaster
Speaker 5: who you probably have we've you know, listened to at
Speaker 5: various points and focus on Marvel stuff, I'm still waiting
Speaker 5: for us to hear some of his more specific thoughts
Speaker 5: on that on that reveal, But when he was giving
Speaker 5: his live reaction on one of his podcast episodes, he
Speaker 5: was very much just like, I really don't know how
Speaker 5: I feel about this, So so yeah, I'm still waiting
Speaker 5: to hear what his Now that's marinate a little bit
Speaker 5: more just give me my general thoughts on it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: this is one of those situations where you know, I've
Speaker 5: always thought doctor Dum was cool.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know him super well as the care had
Speaker 5: the action figure from when I was a kid, you know,
Speaker 5: wou'd seeing pop up on cartoons and things like that
Speaker 5: here and there, you know, when he would show up
Speaker 5: in comics and whatnot. I've never had in my mind
Speaker 5: who my perfect fan casting is for him. I've just
Speaker 5: never known specifically who would best capture the the the
Speaker 5: attitude and persona of doctor Doom perfectly. So in that
Speaker 5: so in that sense, Robert Downey Junior doesn't break that,
Speaker 5: but it makes me feel like, well, you know, Robert
Speaker 5: Downey Junior playing Tony Stark was was vain, was egotistical,
Speaker 5: was a narcissistic, was wanting to be in control. Uh,
Speaker 5: And so I don't think he's gonna be like a
Speaker 5: full on variant of Tony Stark. But I think it's
Speaker 5: gonna be a situation of Victor Bond. Doom just happens
Speaker 5: from whatever university comes from, happens to look like Tony
Speaker 5: Stark in the six Month Sixth World. So that's my
Speaker 5: suspicion of how they're going to play it. This ultimately
Speaker 5: comes down to, like, you know what, it's I trust
Speaker 5: the Russo's, I trust Kevin Figee whoever they're going to
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if they've announced the writing team behind
Speaker 5: Doomsday or who's going to.
Speaker 1: Touch m is now going to be the writer of both.
Speaker 1: At that point, Waldron has now been has stepped aside,
Speaker 1: and you.
Speaker 5: Know, mcpheeley has obviously worked closely with Russo brothers from
Speaker 5: multiple times over to a great success. So which the
Speaker 5: other guy which uh uh Marcus was there with it too,
Speaker 5: but who knows the reasons why. I will say, though
Speaker 5: I don't know how much you and guys have talked
Speaker 5: about this, I really as much as I'm open and
Speaker 5: excited for doctor Jum and the role he's going to
Speaker 5: play and whatever they're mapping out, I am kind of
Speaker 5: disappointed isn't the right word, but I'm kind of like
Speaker 5: hoping they don't just literally right off Kang with a
Speaker 5: few lines of dialogue, because that's.
Speaker 4: How he went.
Speaker 1: He went home to his planet like with Pouci.
Speaker 5: See that kind of.
Speaker 4: That's one PC the rock and Dog.
Speaker 5: I mean, okay, well, the other example, Men in Black
Speaker 5: two and how they how they wrote out uh, Linda Fioring.
Speaker 5: I mean the movie wasn't good in general, but like
Speaker 5: you had a cool character with Linda Fiorantino's character as
Speaker 5: as you know Elle, you know, and I liked her
Speaker 5: a lot from the first Man in Black movie and
Speaker 5: they set up to be an am I be agent?
Speaker 5: And then uh uh why where? Why is she not
Speaker 5: in the sequel? Oh she just couldn't hack it, so
Speaker 5: I know, you know, I had to neuralize her. Like
Speaker 5: one line of dialogue explains a way why a character
Speaker 5: is not there when you know all the reasons for
Speaker 5: the characters to be there are still in existence. So yeah,
Speaker 5: for me personally, the the end of Loki season two
Speaker 5: with a line of dialogue is like, oh, we're starting
Speaker 5: to wrap up all the kings now is not going
Speaker 5: to be satisfying for me. So I need to see
Speaker 5: something visually, even if it's only like in the first
Speaker 5: thirty minutes of Avengers Doomsday, Like if they wrap it
Speaker 5: up quick, I mean I just say recast and just
Speaker 5: for the for a hot minute, I mean, whether you
Speaker 5: kill off kings or you dispel like the various members
Speaker 5: of the Council of Kings, like I don't like I've
Speaker 5: never been against the recap. I think the recast said
Speaker 5: action has always been the better option. I just want
Speaker 5: them to I just want to see it visually results
Speaker 5: from somehow or maybe just say put Kang on the
Speaker 5: back burner. Maybe we'll circle back to or like Immortisse,
Speaker 5: circle back to them at a later point when they
Speaker 5: figure out a better story to utilize them in. So
Speaker 5: but I just I hope it's not just like, oh
Speaker 5: this this guy's no longer or these multiple Kangs are
Speaker 5: no longer a threat because we're just bringing doctor. I
Speaker 5: hope it's not literally like hand wavy maybe three lines
Speaker 5: of dialogue that writes them out out, because that would
Speaker 5: frustrate me. That would disappoint me, because I just feel
Speaker 5: like that creates that to me, that just if you're
Speaker 5: looking at from the trajector of how it all fits
Speaker 5: in the narrative, it's it's a pretty strong break for me.
Speaker 4: What are you?
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? Travis?
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna be asked with you, Chris, I've two minds.
Speaker 3: Like I was excited to hear about our DJ being
Speaker 3: coming back to the MCU, but also I wouldn't hate
Speaker 3: to have a completely different Doctor Doom that is in
Speaker 3: the MCU for several phases and comes up like Doctor
Speaker 3: Doom is fantastic. He drops into some like animated series
Speaker 3: and comic books that just completely overpowers anyone. He I
Speaker 3: love the character, and again, I don't know if I
Speaker 3: want him to be done after Secret Wars, like I
Speaker 3: would like him to be a fixture in the MCU
Speaker 3: going forward, and I feel like this is just a
Speaker 3: couple of movies and I'm out again down E Like
Speaker 3: a couple appearances, obviously in post credit sing but a
Speaker 3: couple full actual movies and I'm out again. So I'm
Speaker 3: hoping that's not a case, or they do bring in
Speaker 3: a different version of Doctor Doom with the Fantastic Four
Speaker 3: after this. But now everything I'm hearing is that he's
Speaker 3: going to be a variant from that film, So I
Speaker 3: don't know. I hope that they had their own Doctor
Speaker 3: Doom to deal with, not just Matt.
Speaker 1: Matt Jackman has said that he he is not commenting
Speaker 1: on Doom being involved in any way, shape or form
Speaker 1: at that point, which is basically code in our world,
Speaker 1: is like yeah, you basically just confirmed it with your
Speaker 1: non committal answer at that point. You know, Mar Daniels
Speaker 1: in the chat saying I agree with the sentiment that
Speaker 1: this Doom casting feels desperate. Thwip saying I've always wanted
Speaker 1: Henry Cavill's Doom. I've even had a mock oppos as
Speaker 1: him and the role. William saying no one around him
Speaker 1: seemed disappointed. Thwip saying you could open Doomsday the same
Speaker 1: way with Infinity War op and Thanos killing the ass Guardians.
Speaker 1: Now it can be Doom annihilating the Kings and the
Speaker 1: I'll see him. Yep, I've seen that, also saying Doom
Speaker 1: should always be the villain that keeps being a pain
Speaker 1: in the pain in the ass for the heroes, just
Speaker 1: like the comics, you can't get rid of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like a cockroach, you know the game.
Speaker 5: It could just be like, you know, one version of
Speaker 5: Doom that Robert Downey Junior is playing, and then depending
Speaker 5: on how like my theory of Secret Wars has been
Speaker 5: that you know, they'll they won't get rid of all
Speaker 5: the pieces of the multiverse, but they'll definitely consolidate to
Speaker 5: some degree, like there still will be a sacred timeline.
Speaker 5: But then maybe like maybe they'll just be a fewer
Speaker 5: there won't not there won't be as many branches. There'll
Speaker 5: be just like a few tangential branches to the timeline
Speaker 5: so that you can still play with multiverse when you
Speaker 5: want to. But then after that point, then you know,
Speaker 5: it's new X Men cast, you know, maybe a new
Speaker 5: Victor von Doom casting post Secret Wars. And that's been
Speaker 5: my theory for a little while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's kind of to you know, again this
Speaker 1: there is a possibility that we're going to have an
Speaker 1: Avengers that will never face King. I don't like thinking
Speaker 1: like that because Kang next to Doom is one of
Speaker 1: their I know, Dooms is a fantastic war villain, but
Speaker 1: when it comes down to Doom and King can be
Speaker 1: both to be fantastic for villains in a way, but
Speaker 1: also when it comes down to their Avengers levels threats.
Speaker 5: Well you got to think too that, like they want
Speaker 5: to do more than just this one fantastic for a
Speaker 5: movie with this cast, you know, so even though this
Speaker 5: is this specific, you know, fantastic four four steps is
Speaker 5: leading to Secret Wars. Fig did say that the fantastic
Speaker 5: forecast will be part of Doomsday and Secret Wars. He
Speaker 5: did say that, so that there will they will continue
Speaker 5: to be part of those. But like you got to
Speaker 5: imagine they want to keep, you know, do another two
Speaker 5: maybe three movies with that cast post Secret Wars. Even so,
Speaker 5: if you know, they probably want to keep you know, Pedro, Pascal,
Speaker 5: and Vanessa.
Speaker 3: They're getting the trilogy experience, Yeah.
Speaker 5: For sure. So you know, in that regard, you know,
Speaker 5: there's no re and to not continue with either Victor
Speaker 5: von dumer Kang in some capacity, like you can keep
Speaker 5: telling stories of those characters, and you know by that point,
Speaker 5: you know, by this point even you know, the audience
Speaker 5: is well aware of different actors playing different roles of
Speaker 5: different versions of characters. So you know, I think we're
Speaker 5: gonna be well set up for if the recasting happens,
Speaker 5: or we're just enjoying Robert Downey Junior for this moment too.
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, so maybe there is a bit of
Speaker 5: desperation through it. I'm not gonna rule that out, but like,
Speaker 5: I don't think it's gonna not work for him, and
Speaker 5: I you know, probably Doney Junior is a really talented actor.
Speaker 4: So you can.
Speaker 5: Create a oh yeah, completely different persona for Victor Bomb
Speaker 5: Doom than what we've seen with Tony Starks.
Speaker 1: So yeah, all in the game saying the question of
Speaker 1: what happened with Marcus not coming back? I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, again, it's maybe one of those that he
Speaker 1: may be already involved in something else and just saying
Speaker 1: why would you turn down another opportunity? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm sure whenever they he decides to want to go
Speaker 1: on record about why not this time? At this point,
Speaker 1: I right now, I have no linklings of any thing
Speaker 1: sinister or falling out at that point. Maybe it's just
Speaker 1: comes down to simple thing like scheduling and money can't
Speaker 1: buy everything.
Speaker 5: All four of them are producers at AGUI, So maybe
Speaker 5: there's a specific project he's.
Speaker 1: Tied up with that he finds more passionate about than
Speaker 1: ringing the bell of the Avengers again.
Speaker 3: So uh yeah, Chris, maybe you just like the demands
Speaker 3: that come with running those two.
Speaker 4: Maybe you're just like, I don't want to handle that anymore.
Speaker 4: I'm done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the games talking about also, like an Avengers team,
Speaker 1: what would people expect when Avengers team that's just quickly
Speaker 1: thrown together in a relatively short space of time. What
Speaker 1: are they possibly going to do? Yeah, that's another thing
Speaker 1: to think about too. You know, I'm one of these
Speaker 1: people that I'm an RDJ fan. He's definitely one of
Speaker 1: my favorite actors. He's proven himself. He got that Oscar
Speaker 1: he's wanted to so, Yeah, when he when he made
Speaker 1: that statement about after he won the Oscar about thinking
Speaker 1: about coming back and doing it, that's when he started saying, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: I can think about it. But before that, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: He had been done his town time. He got. He
Speaker 1: got the thing he wanted in the sense of, Okay,
Speaker 1: I am not strictly defined by this character. I'm better
Speaker 1: than I can show. I'm a better actor this I know,
Speaker 1: got the proof I'm a better actor than just that.
Speaker 1: But he him, I knew it was definitely wasn't on
Speaker 1: my Bengo card for this. But in my opinion, I'm
Speaker 1: a wait and see kind of person. I'm not this.
Speaker 1: This necessarily wasn't who I thought was gonna be doom.
Speaker 1: But I like the same thing I say with Ethider.
Speaker 1: I'm willing to give it a chance and a sense
Speaker 1: of let me see the story first before giving full things.
Speaker 1: I understand people's disappointment. I understand people's reservations. I understand
Speaker 1: when people say, oh, this is a safe move, this
Speaker 1: is a move of you know, desperation. But I'm also
Speaker 1: saying like, this is also a big risk for Marvel
Speaker 1: to do this at this point, that that is a
Speaker 1: big risk to pivot not only bringing back ARDJ, but
Speaker 1: RDJ in a different role that people were like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna there. There was no one else to
Speaker 1: play this role. Whatever they're doing to bring back our DJ,
Speaker 1: you can call it desperate, you can call it a
Speaker 1: big risk. At this point. There is a storage driven
Speaker 1: element with this, and I want to kind of put
Speaker 1: forth this is this is the theory I've been kind
Speaker 1: of work, kind of seeing different people say certain things.
Speaker 1: But also this is things I've been thinking about in
Speaker 1: last week. So going back to endgame, Tony figured out
Speaker 1: time travel in a night, okay, And remember in his
Speaker 1: final message to Morgan and Pepper was like, this time
Speaker 1: travel thing has got me scratching my head about survivability.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: Right before this, he explains that you know, he's making
Speaker 1: this video in case his untimely death, But right after
Speaker 1: that he says that death at any point is untimely.
Speaker 1: So if he was able to understand that time travel
Speaker 1: and understand quantum physics about quantum jumping enough and understand
Speaker 1: how time works, he wouldn't. He wouldn't have understood it
Speaker 1: in the way that Loki understands it because he's not
Speaker 1: been in the TVA. He wouldn't understand it in the
Speaker 1: way doctor Strange does looking at it from the timestone.
Speaker 1: He understand in a scientific way. He understood that time
Speaker 1: worked and how the branches worked and how it needed
Speaker 1: to be ordered and able to jump through. That's that's
Speaker 1: how me he made time tabled possible. Not on a
Speaker 1: scientific side. And I say scientific, this is com book science. Yes,
Speaker 1: I understand the whole thing, but stay with me here.
Speaker 1: He would have understood that there were other versions of
Speaker 1: people in other dimensions, in other universes. Tony never would
Speaker 1: have agreed to this mission or gone into this without
Speaker 1: knowing that he could get back to Pepper and Morgan,
Speaker 1: because that was his biggest thing. He is not risking
Speaker 1: his family doing this.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: A lot of people say that doctor Doom will be
Speaker 1: a very to Tony could be. That's not how they
Speaker 1: introduced him, but it still could be so going off
Speaker 1: that theory, what if Tony found a way to attach
Speaker 1: himself to another dimension, another universe, another reality as a
Speaker 1: fail safe in hopes of getting back. You know, this
Speaker 1: leads me to the next thought. That really far ahead,
Speaker 1: doctor Strange looking to the possible outcomes of the future.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: What else did he see? We know he at least
Speaker 1: looked ahead five years and knew what if they all
Speaker 1: got dusted away, that five years later the rest of
Speaker 1: the Avengers would come back and find a way to
Speaker 1: bring them back and would be able to end that
Speaker 1: part of the war. I think Strange saw him far
Speaker 1: more than he ever thought he would have seen at
Speaker 1: that point, and I think that he he is that
Speaker 1: is something that is very big to explore, which is
Speaker 1: why I think that, you know, I'm that's that's how
Speaker 1: I'm thinking. This is kind of might go down. It's
Speaker 1: an idea to theory whether we see but I think Strange
Speaker 1: knows more about what the future lies ahead than anything
Speaker 1: than just five years.
Speaker 5: Did either of you guys read the twenty ninety nine
Speaker 5: line of comics when those were coming out in the
Speaker 5: early nineties, and one of the books was Doom.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that Doom. I'm a bit Oh, yes, that
Speaker 1: Doom is scary.
Speaker 5: It's been a while since I've looked at that book,
Speaker 5: you know, because they're packed away somewhere. But I sort
Speaker 5: of remember the way that first issue opens, Doctor Doom
Speaker 5: somehow time travels into the future, finds himself in twenty
Speaker 5: ninety nine. But then over the course of course of
Speaker 5: this first couple issues, they reveal that that person is
Speaker 5: not actually Victor von Doom. It's like someone else who
Speaker 5: has the memories of Victor van Doom, or like the
Speaker 5: or his body has been made to be younger because
Speaker 5: he doesn't have the facial scars and things like that.
Speaker 5: So there could be some element of it where a
Speaker 5: variant of Tony Stark who has landed somewhere and lost
Speaker 5: his memory of who he is and thinks he's this
Speaker 5: hole and he lands up in Laveria and he has
Speaker 5: no memory of who he is, but he's this brilliant engineer,
Speaker 5: and maybe he's in the middle of lands, in the
Speaker 5: middle of a place where and there's I'm just I'm
Speaker 5: clearly spitballing and shooting from you know, some kind of
Speaker 5: civil war happening in Latvia, and he ends up being
Speaker 5: someone who fringes out a way to resolve it or
Speaker 5: solve it or stop it, or help one side win
Speaker 5: over the other. And as a result of that, because
Speaker 5: he plays such a pivotal role because of his intelligence,
Speaker 5: causes him to become like they're de fact a leader.
Speaker 5: Hen becomes the ruler of Latvia, and he just sort
Speaker 5: of continues in that identity forgetting who he was actually
Speaker 5: was as a variant of Tony Stark. Again pure yeah,
Speaker 5: crazy speculation.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be it's gonna be one of those
Speaker 1: where we're gonna have a lot of theories. They're gonna
Speaker 1: start filming within the next year, and we're gonna start
Speaker 1: building towards this. I think my fascination comes is as
Speaker 1: our only look at Doom going to be in fantastic
Speaker 1: for are we going to start laying the foundations of
Speaker 1: Doom at some points because I had put forth a
Speaker 1: theory and I wasn't the only one that I think
Speaker 1: Doom at one point may or may not have been
Speaker 1: in Wakonda for that discussion. I still think was had
Speaker 1: and was going to be operating behind the scenes, but
Speaker 1: that might have got changed last minute. But yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: The Tatiana Seagull put out another lovely hit piece and
Speaker 1: variety in the sense of putting out the idea of
Speaker 1: the supposed payday for downy is going to be, you know,
Speaker 1: supposedly Marvel's plucking down eighty million dollars for the Russo
Speaker 1: brothers to come back, and RDYJ is going to get
Speaker 1: paid way more, including supposedly what is it like a
Speaker 1: a RV village and things like that. You know what,
Speaker 1: at this point, pay days are pay days. Unfortunately. Fortunately
Speaker 1: it's one of those things that with everyone else that
Speaker 1: works so hard on these movies at that point, to
Speaker 1: get a payday like that, it's somewhat after all the
Speaker 1: strikes saying, eh, it just doesn't feel good seeing like that.
Speaker 1: But this is what they wanted to do, and ardy
Speaker 1: J is not necessarily wrong saying you want me back,
Speaker 1: I want this payday, I want this at the other
Speaker 1: and I want the Russos back in order for me
Speaker 1: to do it. And guess what Marvel did It called inspiration.
Speaker 1: But they had a story that they think they could
Speaker 1: do and they got them back, and we're just gonna
Speaker 1: have to see exactly what is it going to be
Speaker 1: worth it?
Speaker 5: And it'll be interesting, what you know, what came first? Like
Speaker 5: was it the Russo's or was Robert Donney Junior coming
Speaker 5: back first? Like which happened?
Speaker 4: What was it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that will be a fun discussion.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think my assumption has been once once
Speaker 5: they submit to the Russos as directing the two movies,
Speaker 5: then they're like, well we got to bring back Robert somehow,
Speaker 5: Well how are we gonna do it? What do you
Speaker 5: want to do? And then like they can like, oh, Robert,
Speaker 5: you want to come back? I don't know the Russos
Speaker 5: are going to direct? Oh sure, I'm in You know,
Speaker 5: it could have been that simple.
Speaker 3: I got a feeling that those two, those three worked
Speaker 3: in concert a little bit here to get the steal signed,
Speaker 3: because I'm pretty sure they came out town and he
Speaker 3: said he wasn't gonna do it with anybody else other than.
Speaker 1: The Russos, so accordinated Tatiana f Chiez to be to believed.
Speaker 3: Oh well, okay, in mind, if that's the source, then
Speaker 3: forget what I just said. That's a very suspict source
Speaker 3: to begin with.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to say the source of the article piece, Well,
Speaker 1: she's I call her the she she is kind of
Speaker 1: very big on hit pieces on both sides of the aisle.
Speaker 1: So in my in my humble opinion, well and.
Speaker 5: Also as far as the Russos go, I remember were
Speaker 5: listening to another podcast where the hosts were talking about
Speaker 5: if if the Russos are coming back, like this is
Speaker 5: this is just going back to the well this is
Speaker 5: you know, it's too you know, this is a movie
Speaker 5: of desperation that kind of.
Speaker 1: Six point six billion dollars made for Marvel with the
Speaker 1: Russos alone. Look, I'm just gonna say that.
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if you guys read the
Speaker 5: Reign of the MCU book that Joanna Robinson and then
Speaker 5: a couple of the writers put out, part I'm.
Speaker 1: Part of the way. Yeah, I've not all the way
Speaker 1: through it, but yeah, I've read a lot.
Speaker 5: She really does emphasize how like the Marvel really did
Speaker 5: find like the best collaborators, like what the most ideal
Speaker 5: kind of director that they were looking for with they
Speaker 5: found in the Russos that the kind of director does
Speaker 5: like super collaborat with them, and we'll talk to the
Speaker 5: other directors and writers that are, you know, all in
Speaker 5: the studio. So in order to put the best thing together.
Speaker 5: So it makes if they've It's not like Marvel hasn't
Speaker 5: tried to work with a variety of other directors. It's
Speaker 5: not like they didn't try to find different directors for
Speaker 5: Avengers five and Secret Wars. They have tried to find
Speaker 5: other people, just for one reason or another, it didn't
Speaker 5: work out. And you know, hey, then you go back
Speaker 5: to the people who you know you can count on,
Speaker 5: who are clearly I would be very excited to continue
Speaker 5: going to like they they got to have a creative
Speaker 5: outlet with things like The Gray Man and Cherry and
Speaker 5: I really liked The Gray Man. So but the what's that?
Speaker 1: I'm glad you did so.
Speaker 5: I thought it was. I liked it.
Speaker 1: It was okay, it was it was okay. You know,
Speaker 1: it's one of those I don't think they found their
Speaker 1: their footing yet to find that that same thing they
Speaker 1: found at Marvel. But I do appreciate their sticking to
Speaker 1: their guns and doing their creativeness at that point. But
Speaker 1: but but yeah, so uh great. I appreciate you know,
Speaker 1: you giving your your voice to giving us our boots
Speaker 1: on the ground to tell us exactly your experiences. We're
Speaker 1: gonna head into some news. Are you're gonna stick around
Speaker 1: or are you gonna.
Speaker 5: For a few more minutes? And then I think I
Speaker 5: gotta duck out.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we're gonna take our next ad break before
Speaker 1: we get into the news that point, we're kind of
Speaker 1: gonna hit these news pieces pretty quick because fig gave
Speaker 1: a lot of interviews and there's not too much meat
Speaker 1: to chew on it, but just kind of get some
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Speaker 1: right back and we are back, all right. So fig
Speaker 1: gave a lot of interviews last week leading up to
Speaker 1: Dead Bloem, Wolverine, drop some Tea, So we're gonna start.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do these kind of quick hits at that point,
Speaker 1: leading off with Nova. So Figy talking to Brendan Davis
Speaker 1: Comic book dot Com and I talked about asking about,
Speaker 1: you know, is Nova happening. Fig said, it's happening. It's
Speaker 1: coming together. Richard Ryder is our Nova. He said, you know,
Speaker 1: is it going to be a movie or show? Brenda
Speaker 1: David heads he said, Fig says a show.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. As for the project is slated to actually hit
Speaker 1: the small screen, there's still some time on that one.
Speaker 1: We're looking at three to four years out. So Nova
Speaker 1: definitely does not sound like a project within the Multiverse saga.
Speaker 1: This sounds like one of the first projects outside the
Speaker 1: Multiverse saga. And it's interesting that this is it right now,
Speaker 1: a Disney Plus show. So quick reactions, Travis go First.
Speaker 4: I watched the video of this interview.
Speaker 3: There's no way he's telling the information to anyone else
Speaker 3: other than Brandon Davis because he loves the Nova character,
Speaker 3: and I'm pretty sure he kind of dropped the hint
Speaker 3: that he'll, like maybe do a little stupid cameo.
Speaker 4: Of just a regular guy or something.
Speaker 3: Yep, So yeah, I think so yeah, that's I mean
Speaker 3: for this, this another thing down to pipe. They have
Speaker 3: so much in back characters that we haven't even seen yet,
Speaker 3: So this is another one of those.
Speaker 1: What do you think Harry down for Nova as a
Speaker 1: show instead of a movie.
Speaker 5: Honestly, it wouldn't matter to me that much either way.
Speaker 5: I really am not familiar with the character of Nova.
Speaker 5: I just am more excited about the idea that, you know,
Speaker 5: circling back to those pieces of like the Nova core
Speaker 5: that were introduced in the in the First Guardians they
Speaker 5: got actually movie kind of circling back to that side
Speaker 5: of the cosmic world of the MCUs.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, we don't even know what their status
Speaker 1: is because all we know is Danis wiped them out
Speaker 1: during Infinity Wars that we have not seen a re establishment,
Speaker 1: and you know, you look at the annihilation saga from
Speaker 1: the comics that wiped out the novacre and Richard Ryder
Speaker 1: was the last of the Nova at that point, So
Speaker 1: we'll have to see exactly. But yeah, me personally, I
Speaker 1: do like the Richard Ryder version of it. It's you know,
Speaker 1: one of those where it's gonna be interesting to see
Speaker 1: when you say it's gonna be a show. Budget's always
Speaker 1: my interesting thing, and this is a cosmic hero, so
Speaker 1: I'm expecting big, big space opera things like that kind
Speaker 1: of you know, so that that means budgets may be
Speaker 1: going up, so that's not necessarily you know, to do this, right,
Speaker 1: I think you can do it, but I think it
Speaker 1: surprised me saying this is gonna be a show, but
Speaker 1: we'll just have to see next up. Spider Man four
Speaker 1: and mcu x men updates. So Figi was talking to
Speaker 1: Gizmoto talk about an update on on Spider Man four, saying,
Speaker 1: our favorite Spider Man for Sony producer Travis Amy, Pascal
Speaker 1: and I are working on it. Figi said about the
Speaker 1: next Spider Man film, we have writers who are going
Speaker 1: to deliver us a draft relatively soon, so that's positive.
Speaker 1: Talk about the next director for it, and in the
Speaker 1: sense of you know John Watts, and he says John,
Speaker 1: We love John. We did three movie, one of the
Speaker 1: best best Spider Man movies he'd ever done with He's
Speaker 1: got lots of things going on now, so we'll probably
Speaker 1: be looking for someone else just because he's busy. Yes,
Speaker 1: he is doing He's just getting ready to have a
Speaker 1: movie with George Clooney and Brad Pitt coming out. Just
Speaker 1: saw the trailer for that about a few months ago.
Speaker 1: He's also directing a few episodes of The Skeleton Crew,
Speaker 1: so he's relatively busy at that point. And what do
Speaker 1: y'all think, you know, small update on the writing going
Speaker 1: to be turning a script soon you know, are you
Speaker 1: good with John Watts kind of saying you've done your
Speaker 1: time for King and Country, Let's find someone else to
Speaker 1: lead the next trilogy. How y'all feeling about that?
Speaker 3: Completely fine with that, as long as you give me
Speaker 3: at least two to three Amy Pascal and Kevin Foggy
Speaker 3: interviews together where they don't know what's going to be
Speaker 3: said going in, because Foggy's reactions when Amy starts talking
Speaker 3: about things that they're going to do in the future
Speaker 3: is priceless.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, I want more of that.
Speaker 5: I know about you carry, Yeah, I mean Spider Man
Speaker 5: noelm was a heck of a high note to go
Speaker 5: out on. So I think for John Watts, you know,
Speaker 5: perfectly fine with him moving and venturing onto other things.
Speaker 5: And you know, I'm excited for I'm hoping that, you know,
Speaker 5: whether it's both not only Spider Man for but hopefully
Speaker 5: more movies with Tom Holland I just want to see
Speaker 5: the college years Peter Parker in the MCU and see
Speaker 5: that play out. And I mean, there's any number of
Speaker 5: great directors who could give us something special with that
Speaker 5: and just keep the torch going.
Speaker 3: Sit up so perfectly at the end of no way
Speaker 3: home here. You want to see the college years as well,
Speaker 3: where he's.
Speaker 1: All long, Yeah, it's going to be good, And I'm
Speaker 1: good with John Watson finding someone else at that point.
Speaker 1: We've seen what he can do. Let's bring in a
Speaker 1: new person with a new vision at that point. But
Speaker 1: when we're talking about X Men, they they made this,
Speaker 1: you know, Asking fi Gey kind of indirectly about it,
Speaker 1: he said, well, that's a mutants are. That's a phrase
Speaker 1: we use often at Mark Marvel, which is it's and
Speaker 1: it's an embarrassment of riches. Figi said. When it comes
Speaker 1: to the X Men, and there are a lot of
Speaker 1: great X Men characters and Deadpool and Wolverine film, there
Speaker 1: are a lot of great X Men characters in all
Speaker 1: of the Fox versions of the X Men, and there
Speaker 1: are a lot of great X Men characters that have
Speaker 1: never gone on to the big screens. So I think
Speaker 1: we will always try to do as we do when
Speaker 1: we made the arrangement with Sony for Spider Man, you'll
Speaker 1: probably see a mix of characters you've seen before and
Speaker 1: some you've never seen ever. On that point, I think
Speaker 1: the success of X Men nighty seven, it was really
Speaker 1: exciting for us to see people revisit and reconnect with
Speaker 1: that world. And dare I say the soap opera elements
Speaker 1: of that world, which is of the things that's so
Speaker 1: exciting jumping into finally bringing them to the MCU. So
Speaker 1: that's that's positive in that sense for both of those.
Speaker 1: You know, we've already seen the comments of the Mutant erat.
Speaker 1: We know Figy's saying Deadpool Wolverene starts the mutant era
Speaker 1: of X Men. But I don't think we're going to
Speaker 1: everyone get to say, oh, we're gonna get more Avengers
Speaker 1: versus x Men in this now, We're not. That's not
Speaker 1: coming until after this multiverse sagas over. We need to
Speaker 1: first get an Avengers team stab which before we start
Speaker 1: having them fighting an X Men that doesn't exist in
Speaker 1: the MCU. So but a couple of ones, anyone surprised
Speaker 1: Figy's saying there are no plans for Eternals to anyone
Speaker 1: show of hands. Nope, good, all right? So uh we Hey,
Speaker 1: we get our first revisiting of a lot, and.
Speaker 5: Thankful for that, you know, and Kevin likes to resurrect
Speaker 5: things that didn't work as well. Maybe Eternals would have
Speaker 5: been better as a Disney Plus series.
Speaker 1: Yep, I mean I didn't hate on Eternals as much
Speaker 1: at that point. I think that movie, that movie is
Speaker 1: going to be more sense of what like to your point, Travis,
Speaker 1: what was done as a result. Brave New World is
Speaker 1: the first, you know, revisiting of it. I think we're
Speaker 1: going to more see how effective it was, if any
Speaker 1: of the characters do come back in any shape form,
Speaker 1: or the rest of these phases. So and last, it
Speaker 1: looked at the Figy News who bought Avengers Tower? This
Speaker 1: is another one coming from Brandon Davis who has been
Speaker 1: harping on this trying to see exactly when are we
Speaker 1: going to find out since Homecoming who bought Avengers Tower?
Speaker 1: And he asked them a couple of things he asked
Speaker 1: to fig he said. Speaking with comicbook dot Com ahead
Speaker 1: of the release of Deadpool Wolverine, Figi was asked if
Speaker 1: the answer to Avengers Tower question was the same as
Speaker 1: it has been previously and when we might finally get
Speaker 1: that information, and Figi confirmed he knows who bought it
Speaker 1: and it's the same answer as previously. Yes, we'll find
Speaker 1: out soon, he said, yes. Fig He said yes, and yes,
Speaker 1: So the same person they had in mind that bought
Speaker 1: it is still the plan. Who bought it? We will
Speaker 1: find out, and we will find out soon. Doesn't say
Speaker 1: at that point, but we will find out soon. So
Speaker 1: my guess is probably sometime next year.
Speaker 4: I think you could be right about that, Chris.
Speaker 3: The way I watched that interviewed away FIGI was, I
Speaker 3: do think we'll see it in the next year.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 1: So are you excited to see who?
Speaker 4: Finally?
Speaker 1: Is it going to be the What do you think, Harry?
Speaker 1: Is it going to be confirming fans theory of possibly
Speaker 1: a kingpin buying it? Or is it going to be
Speaker 1: someone else? Is it gonna meet our Are we building
Speaker 1: this up just to be let down? Did our speculation
Speaker 1: become our expectation? As my coast Brent has said many times,
Speaker 1: I mean it.
Speaker 5: Could be that for sure. I think, you know, the
Speaker 5: kingpin buying it makes the most sense and would be
Speaker 5: sort of a way of Hey, we couldn't really say
Speaker 5: who it was until they got to a certain point
Speaker 5: with the Daredevil frights and franchise and things like that,
Speaker 5: and getting it all under there the Marvel Studios roof
Speaker 5: and not just under Marvel Entertainment so I imagine.
Speaker 4: There's I was going to just say that, Julio.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, Julio saying val body. You can't again, Julio,
Speaker 1: you can't even say her name. You can't even you
Speaker 1: could barely think it, you know.
Speaker 5: So I'm excited for that mystery to be revealed, but
Speaker 5: I don't think it's going to be a massive, massive
Speaker 5: plot point. I think it'll be just like, and then
Speaker 5: this person bought Stark Tower, bought the Avengers Tower. Then
Speaker 5: we'll just cover the one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Our last story of the evening is
Speaker 1: looking at the historic box office of Deadpool and Wolverine.
Speaker 1: So much the surprise of No. One, it was number
Speaker 1: one at the box office. The first weekend made four
Speaker 1: hundred and forty four point one million dollars globally, including
Speaker 1: two hundred and eleven million domestically, exceeding the adjusted expectations
Speaker 1: that put it around one hundred and sixty one hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty five million. It blew that away. This makes
Speaker 1: dead Pool Woverine the highest grossing global opening for an
Speaker 1: R rated box in box office history, surpassing Deadpool in
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Domestically, it was the sixth highest grossing movie
Speaker 1: opening of all time, the highest July opening weekend of
Speaker 1: all time, surpassing twenty nineteen to The Lion King, the
Speaker 1: biggest opening since twenty twenty one Spider Man No Way Home,
Speaker 1: and the second largest opening for a third installment behind
Speaker 1: twenty Nineteens Avengers Endgame as of recordings of recording, these
Speaker 1: are the current numbers as it stands right now. Domestically,
Speaker 1: it has earned two hundred and eighty million dollars in
Speaker 1: change internationally three hundred and ten million for change for
Speaker 1: a grand total as of recording a five hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety million dollars global taken. It will not only exceed
Speaker 1: six hundred million, probably by the time of tomorrow morning,
Speaker 1: if not by into Friday night, but it is well
Speaker 1: on its way. People are saying we they will hit
Speaker 1: a billion sometime next week. So that is two billion
Speaker 1: dollar movies for Disney in one summer. Inside Out Too.
Speaker 1: Travis has given me this look they got Inside Out Too.
Speaker 4: That's not on my radar at the moment.
Speaker 5: I saw in Sign Out Too and liked it, but
Speaker 5: I had a brain fart moment too that fun.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So I don't think any of those numbers surprises.
Speaker 1: At that point, I think it's you know again, I
Speaker 1: stuck to my guns with my prediction. I did not
Speaker 1: see in getting a film, but I said, I will
Speaker 1: be very happily proved wrong, and I'll be very happy
Speaker 1: to get that one wrong that they did not. They're
Speaker 1: going to achieve a billion. It's it's great, it's great news.
Speaker 1: But t whip saying Craven's got a competition at the
Speaker 1: box of his Oh oh yes he does. Oh yes,
Speaker 1: all right, well I will since that you gave us
Speaker 1: a little more extra time care, I'm sensing this will
Speaker 1: you will be probably stepping out.
Speaker 5: I think I need to duck out at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I gotta go.
Speaker 1: All right, well, well tell people that can follow Carrie,
Speaker 1: and again, we really appreciate you taking your time and
Speaker 1: giving us your your personal appressure. This was a lot
Speaker 1: of fun.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm on Twitter x whatever, I'm on Instagram,
Speaker 5: but I have those things kind of set to prise
Speaker 5: it for for reasons. So I'll just say, if you
Speaker 5: want to find me, go ahead and reach out to
Speaker 5: Chris and then he can use it.
Speaker 1: I can say that you can you can follow him
Speaker 1: and he's okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, exactly, so well.
Speaker 1: Good, well, we'll we again appreciate just stop them by,
Speaker 1: stay safe out there, and thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5: Absolutely thanks for having meks listening to the rest of
Speaker 5: the episode later.
Speaker 1: Awesome, thanks.
Speaker 5: I guess bye.
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take our last ad break before
Speaker 1: we get into Factor fiction and uh listener questions and
Speaker 1: kind of wrapping up our evening there. Travis, Yeah, what
Speaker 1: time is it there for you right now?
Speaker 4: Buddy? Twelve twenty four?
Speaker 1: Ah yeah, so we gotta wear at this up. Travis's
Speaker 1: gotta get to.
Speaker 4: Be Oh, I'm fine, I'm fine. I have worked off.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's said, but we want to make sure you
Speaker 1: get that rest. So all right, listen, this is our
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Speaker 1: you know, I Brent put out the spidy signal on Twitter,
Speaker 1: I put it out on threads, so we got one
Speaker 1: question this week coming from oh yeah, yeah, factor f yeah,
Speaker 1: factor fiction. So we got one. Yeah, we'll get the
Speaker 1: factor fiction. We get to that. Amara Daniels always consistent,
Speaker 1: always on there, one of our consistent contributors, asking, you know, wishing, Brent,
Speaker 1: you know, every hoping everything went well and goes well
Speaker 1: at that point and we wish we want him to
Speaker 1: come back, but him asking what Marvel character did you
Speaker 1: look up to as a child and why? So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let you first take that there, Travis, Well.
Speaker 4: Chris is wearing him right there.
Speaker 3: It's the Spider Man, of course, and honestly it's twofold.
Speaker 3: He always did the right thing, and most of the
Speaker 3: time when he did the right thing is it was
Speaker 3: detrimental to his life.
Speaker 4: It made his life.
Speaker 3: Harder, it made it crappier, and it was just something
Speaker 3: that I didn't see a whole lot of growing up.
Speaker 3: In the other I was this is animation where I
Speaker 3: first experienced these characters. So in the other ones you
Speaker 3: didn't see as much how being a superhero affected their
Speaker 3: day to day lives. Somehow it was easier to be
Speaker 3: a hero like you can pull off both sides, whereas
Speaker 3: Spider Man it always showed that it affected him. He
Speaker 3: missaate on dates, but he's still always was Spider Man,
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was spoder Man was my guy, always
Speaker 3: will be my guy.
Speaker 4: And just number one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of thinking about that, like which which one
Speaker 1: kind of did that for me? I mean, that's it's
Speaker 1: a good question. Marvel character you know, they're you know,
Speaker 1: Spider Man, Yeah, I could, I could say that. But
Speaker 1: one of those characters that and hence you know why
Speaker 1: I've taken the nickname the Man without Fear is is
Speaker 1: Matt Murdoch. Daredevil is someone that literally takes the idea
Speaker 1: you know, I know, Steve Rodgers, I can do this
Speaker 1: all day, like Matt has gone toe to toe and
Speaker 1: keeps on getting up, taking that fighter's mentality, never giving up,
Speaker 1: always getting you know, not always making the right move.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's not. He is definitely not a
Speaker 1: perfect character, not necessarily made the right choices, but his heart,
Speaker 1: when it comes down to it, is in the right place,
Speaker 1: trying to do what's right in his mind, for his friends,
Speaker 1: for those around it, defending Hell's kitchen and doesn't want
Speaker 1: necessarily anything but to keep the kitchen safe. And that
Speaker 1: is that one has always been a personal favorite of mine.
Speaker 3: So him being a hero on both sides of like
Speaker 3: both identities is always something that I enjoyed as well,
Speaker 3: because not only does he take the cases, most of
Speaker 3: the cases he takes are pro bono. He doesn't exactly
Speaker 3: take high end clients to make money. So yeah, he
Speaker 3: says people twice.
Speaker 1: And in the sense of I'll take it to another
Speaker 1: level the X men, I mean half my question back
Speaker 1: here behind me, This as a whole just of everything.
Speaker 1: They represent the ideas of being different and knowing that, yeah,
Speaker 1: just because you're different doesn't mean that you deserve to
Speaker 1: be ostracized. You bring something to the table no matter
Speaker 1: what your abilities are.
Speaker 4: Everyone's special.
Speaker 1: Yep, exactly, all right, So thank you Omar for that question.
Speaker 1: And so let's get into factor fictions from a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. All right, we will see our first
Speaker 1: full cast in person appearance and fantastic four at SDCC.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent right, We got May made sure to
Speaker 1: get that out before SDCC. So yes, one hundred percent right.
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna bother asking you, Travis, because we
Speaker 1: already know what happened. We will not get a king
Speaker 1: the Conqueror casting announcement at SDCC sixty nine percent in
Speaker 1: fact thirty one percent fiction. You got that one as well.
Speaker 1: Number three, we will get a new logo for Armor
Speaker 1: Wars at SDCC seventy two percent in fact, twenty percent
Speaker 1: in fiction. And you know, mister steal would say he
Speaker 1: did say you'll get it, he did put up a
Speaker 1: new logo for that, and said canceled because it's a
Speaker 1: fake movie.
Speaker 3: Well, oh my god, I can't believe you guys went
Speaker 3: with that with him, because we're never going to hear
Speaker 3: the end of that. At the moment that gets canceled
Speaker 3: in a guy chat, it's gonna be like two days.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that canceled. Yeah, I canceled arm Wars at
Speaker 1: that point. And then finally from Anthony saying Hugh Jackman
Speaker 1: will be the MCU cannon logan Wolverine and will not
Speaker 1: be recast forty percent in fact sixty percent said fiction.
Speaker 1: What say you to that?
Speaker 3: So that's not one that I'm gonna say fiction unless
Speaker 3: he loves being tortured and wants to be Wolverine. Into
Speaker 3: sixty fives, I'm hoping that he eventually walked away from
Speaker 3: the character with a nice send off here these two
Speaker 3: final movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so all right, as a guest you it is
Speaker 1: up to you for factor of fictions this time.
Speaker 4: So what you got?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 3: I added a few new ones to the catalog after
Speaker 3: watching did Pull and Wolverine, So some of these may
Speaker 3: be uh, coming off the back of the information we
Speaker 3: got there. And the first one, of course, Tom Hollands
Speaker 3: spoder Man will be the anchor being for Earth six
Speaker 3: one six mm hmm.
Speaker 1: He is the anchor being. I'm gonna go with false Okay,
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna go fiction on that one. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: he he's important. But I do not think. I think
Speaker 1: our anchor being for this one is someone else. I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not ready. I have an idea. I'm not
Speaker 1: ready to talk about that one yet because i'm still
Speaker 1: not I'm not fully under percent. But I'm leaning in
Speaker 1: a certain direction.
Speaker 4: Against against because time stamped this and you could be right.
Speaker 1: Nope, not ready yet, not ready to talk about it.
Speaker 3: Number two, Miles Teller will appear as read Richard.
Speaker 1: Again, Miles will appear as read Richards.
Speaker 3: I'm smarter with these knife because there's not going to
Speaker 3: be just a definite timeline so I could go back
Speaker 3: in three years be like.
Speaker 4: Ah, I told you that, I was right.
Speaker 3: I think you could be on the council that we
Speaker 3: eventually see that maybe helps us solve this whole dude problem.
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll see that read. I don't think
Speaker 1: we're seeing Miles Tellers. So I'm gonna go fiction out
Speaker 1: of that one. I think we'd sooner see our original
Speaker 1: read Richards from.
Speaker 4: I thought we were gonna get both of them.
Speaker 3: So I also see in Gambit really maybe think anything's possible. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so Galactus will have no variance, just like American Shavass.
Speaker 1: Galactus will have no variance.
Speaker 4: He's just gonna be one being.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm three for three this week. I'm saying fiction
Speaker 1: just because I think he is. He is a celestial
Speaker 1: in a way, and he's an offshoot of the celestials.
Speaker 1: So I think that there is a Galactis in A
Speaker 1: six one six, just we haven't seen him yet.
Speaker 3: Okay, and the final one I put an extra one
Speaker 3: in there. Oh, just great, Jessica Alba will return to Storm.
Speaker 1: I say that's a fact. That's a fact for me.
Speaker 1: It's the heart WANT said. And I think it's going
Speaker 1: to happen I love.
Speaker 4: Hakarri referred to Fantastic four.
Speaker 3: The first person, he said, was Jessica Alba and we
Speaker 3: went on from there. Anyone I ever here mentioned that
Speaker 3: that's first cast member.
Speaker 1: Well, what I'm saying, I think anchor being a Strange.
Speaker 1: I'll reveal that's why I'm leaning towards. Actually, that's the
Speaker 1: one I'm leaning towards. So you know you put it
Speaker 1: out there, but yeah, that's the one I'm leaning towards.
Speaker 1: Not there it, I have a few. I have one
Speaker 1: or two other contenders right now, but Strange is someone
Speaker 1: I'm I have a fifty one percent that that is
Speaker 1: our anchor being.
Speaker 3: Does spot Man even make the top five choices for you?
Speaker 3: Oh goddamn god, I should consult with you before making.
Speaker 1: No, not there yet.
Speaker 4: So pretty definitive that one.
Speaker 1: Yep, I'm very definitive on that one. So watch me
Speaker 1: be wrong. That's fine. So Anthony did send in a
Speaker 1: factor of fiction. He said, similar to Spider Man the
Speaker 1: Home trilogy, the Fantastic for trilogy will be the Steps trilogy,
Speaker 1: with the first movie being First Steps, sequels being next Steps,
Speaker 1: and final Steps. No, I hope, so I don't want
Speaker 1: to I don't want that. I know you probably said
Speaker 1: that as I have to ask you. You can message
Speaker 1: me after saying how serious are you is this? Are
Speaker 1: you trolling us at this point because I can already
Speaker 1: hear when mister when Travis is listening to this after
Speaker 1: that point, he's gonna say, oh, please Dear God know.
Speaker 1: And I'm the same way, Please Dear God know.
Speaker 4: I want it to be there.
Speaker 3: Just because of that, I can only imagine every news
Speaker 3: today it will be similar to Ray and Brandt doing
Speaker 3: the Birds of Prey and making through the whole.
Speaker 1: I'd see you rather. I'd rather do that than that.
Speaker 1: That just sounds like a baby walking at that point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you. That's side of healing.
Speaker 1: So and then, and we said before, there's nothing says
Speaker 1: they can't do a title change either.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Know, not because they footage, but this they'd always do.
Speaker 1: They've done it before. They did it literally in a
Speaker 1: comic Con panel. So not saying that that wasn't always
Speaker 1: part of the plan. But we'll see. But yeah, thank you, Anthony,
Speaker 1: And we will also post all five of the factor
Speaker 1: of fictions this week. Let's see this the whips being
Speaker 1: cheeky they followed the home trend with Spider Man, so
Speaker 1: why not the same wast that stop it, stop it,
Speaker 1: stop it ship. No, No, we're not.
Speaker 4: We're not.
Speaker 1: We're not creating inception and willing this and to exist
Speaker 1: and stop it. Watch Prent be on the beyond the
Speaker 1: trend of this. Okay, I'm gonna have to ask him.
Speaker 4: This is gonna figure.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll find out tomorrow morning after he listens to
Speaker 1: this and sees if he's on that kind of train,
Speaker 1: and I would say, I'm surround. I'm surrounded except for
Speaker 1: others on this one. So but all right, well we'll
Speaker 1: post those on Sunday, Sunday afternoon. Select your voices be heard,
Speaker 1: and uh, well this was a very long episode at
Speaker 1: that point. A good episode. And again want to thank
Speaker 1: first Carrie for coming on and sharing his experiences in hallways,
Speaker 1: and obviously Travis stepping in last minute for Brenda. Know
Speaker 1: he sends his thanks, and as always I send you
Speaker 1: thanks in the late night, and I'm glad you do
Speaker 1: have a day off tomorrow so you can get a
Speaker 1: little bit of extra sleep because I know you you
Speaker 1: and uh probably going to get an early call from Oliver.
Speaker 4: Oh one hundred percent but totally worth it.
Speaker 3: Thank you Brent for asking me to fill in on
Speaker 3: an episode with content.
Speaker 1: Yes, actually yes, you have had a bad history on
Speaker 1: this show where we have had been very light on content.
Speaker 1: So this is this is I mean, can't.
Speaker 4: Happened the following week like bring me up for she
Speaker 4: Hulk episode fourth episode five? Ye? No?
Speaker 1: So yeah, well again, tell people how they can follow
Speaker 1: you unplug your shows on the network.
Speaker 3: You can follow me on Twitter at Travis Underscore one
Speaker 3: five six. You can drop me a line. We can
Speaker 3: chat at pretty much anything. There's not much I don't love.
Speaker 3: I also host two podcasts on the network, The Animation Nation,
Speaker 3: where you take a look at a animation cross multiud
Speaker 3: of fandoms. I put out yesterday or like two days ago,
Speaker 3: sorry Wednesday, No, that was yesterday Wednesday. I put a
Speaker 3: review for Justice League Crisis on it from the Earth's
Speaker 3: Part three.
Speaker 4: That was nice. To wrap that up.
Speaker 3: I will recommend not listening to my podcast and not
Speaker 3: watching the three part animated trilogy.
Speaker 4: There hate saying that.
Speaker 3: And I also host DC Alliance co host DC Alliance
Speaker 3: on the podcast network as well Friday Nights Live on
Speaker 3: the Peak Verse YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, thank you for that, and you can follow me
Speaker 1: on Twitter at Chris Balga. You can follow my other podcast,
Speaker 1: World Find It's True Believers at Finest Believers dropped a
Speaker 1: new episode with Omar from Near My Condition Looking at
Speaker 1: Green Lantern Rebirth. Just dropped that on Sunday, so check
Speaker 1: that out. That is episode ninety eight, the pendultimate episode
Speaker 1: of Getting to Episode one hundred is coming, and the
Speaker 1: question is who's the guest That episode has been recorded
Speaker 1: and is ready to drop at the end of the
Speaker 1: end of this month, So stay tuned.
Speaker 4: That is a good question too with you because you've
Speaker 4: had such a wide variety of guests from actual comic
Speaker 4: creators to big dumb dumbs like myself, So who goes
Speaker 4: who it could be?
Speaker 1: And again, what is going to happen with episode one hundred? Interesting,
Speaker 1: you know, let it out there at that point. So
Speaker 1: but you can follow Brent at Brent tech Prime on
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Speaker 1: Everyone for joining us. Thank you all for joining us live,
Speaker 1: Thank you all for listening. Stay safe out there everyone,
Speaker 1: and a stand the man would say, excelsior true believers,
Speaker 1: all right, Travis. Post credits discussion, This is something that
Speaker 1: we've kind of talked about on the show is Rumorville. Well,
Speaker 1: this is an interesting one that Figy came on and
Speaker 1: went on the record for something that you know has
Speaker 1: kind of gone under the radar, So I kind of
Speaker 1: wanted to bring it up as our post credits discussion, saying,
Speaker 1: Kevin Figy reveals why Vision showrunner was chosen. So we
Speaker 1: get a two fur in this one, not only that
Speaker 1: the Vision series is happening, but that the showrunner for
Speaker 1: this was also confirmed.
Speaker 3: So and I'm sure you hated this when we find
Speaker 3: out what this show runner did before, because I remember
Speaker 3: you did quite enjoy this.
Speaker 1: So yes, so Kevin Figi talking to Comic book dot
Speaker 1: Com saying that, excuse me speaking to Inverse at this point,
Speaker 1: but this is combook dot COM's covering it, so speaking
Speaker 1: of Verse, the MCU architect explained why Terry Mattallis was
Speaker 1: really the only person to bring bring back come on
Speaker 1: board to bring back Paul bett New's hero. Figgy saw
Speaker 1: Star Trek Picard and was floored by the level of
Speaker 1: the show was operating on and Paramount Plus saw one
Speaker 1: of their biggest wins with Picard. The MCU head man
Speaker 1: noted as a Star Trek, he is a treky and
Speaker 1: when it comes to the character study that pushes into
Speaker 1: the future and retectualizes the past, there aren't many shows
Speaker 1: like Picard for Vision. His absence has been felt since
Speaker 1: the finale WandaVision. Hopefully the show provides an update. Figy says,
Speaker 1: that's how I got to know him. It was an
Speaker 1: amazing work he worked. He is the main show runner
Speaker 1: for Picard season three. I said, this is incredible. I
Speaker 1: don't know how this exists. Let me find out who
Speaker 1: this person is. This moment is also significant because it's
Speaker 1: the first time that Marvel Studios itself has acknowledged the
Speaker 1: series and that the showrunner for this is Terry Mettalis
Speaker 1: At that point. So the Vision Whites, no Vision Tiers,
Speaker 1: whatever we want to call it at that point is
Speaker 1: for real. Tara Mettallis is confirmed as the showrunner for this.
Speaker 1: I have been when I first heard the rumor of this,
Speaker 1: I said, yes, absolutely Picard the series as a whole
Speaker 1: without standing. But season three, if you are a Trekky,
Speaker 1: a next generation Trecky, season three was a love letter
Speaker 1: to all of us, and I cannot believe how much
Speaker 1: how well they stuck the landing for this. So Tarror Mettallis,
Speaker 1: even before Picard season three, he is a great showrunner,
Speaker 1: many accolades to his name, and I am so excited
Speaker 1: about this. I know you're not necessarily a trek Ee
Speaker 1: in that point, Travis, but you know necessarily maybe not Metallis,
Speaker 1: but the idea of the vision Seiers being confirmed, what
Speaker 1: are your feelings about that?
Speaker 3: This is just showing again why Kevin Foggy he's cooking
Speaker 3: all like he immediately knew from watching Pakias even three,
Speaker 3: being like okay, yeah, this is the guy that needs
Speaker 3: to do this just because of this, So I, as
Speaker 3: with everything else, Kevin Foggy has my ultimate trust. He's
Speaker 3: earned that with everything he's done, So I just think
Speaker 3: it's great and imagine being being that guy and Kevin
Speaker 3: Foggy's like, we got to have him, Like, I love
Speaker 3: how what he did with here. You're like, dude, you
Speaker 3: almost got as much barging power as like Toby Maguire
Speaker 3: and those other people. Now that Robert and Junior is
Speaker 3: locked in, you better Marvel better've already had those guys
Speaker 3: locked in or they will be dishnated more dollars. So, uh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't wait for this show to be asking Chris,
Speaker 3: this is something that I was afraid might get lost
Speaker 3: in the shuffle after in the post of post in
Speaker 3: Game World. But yeah, especially with Scarlett Witch being looks
Speaker 3: like on the shelf for a little while.
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, well we'll see, Yeah, we may get that.
Speaker 1: You know, we've heard rumors that this is the show
Speaker 1: that's as going to lean heavily into the Tom King
Speaker 1: run another Tomkin project at that point, maybe a mix
Speaker 1: of that. But yeah, I'm excited for the idea of this.
Speaker 1: Like I said, Harry mettallis bringing down brings in it
Speaker 1: a whole level of excitement and the expectations for this.
Speaker 1: So when this show will come about I don't know.
Speaker 1: We've got D twenty three, So the rumors of D
Speaker 1: twenty three being a mainly focused on animation and the
Speaker 1: Disney streaming side of Marvel looks to be true. Will
Speaker 1: we get a more of a discussion of this D
Speaker 1: twenty three We'll have to see. That's in a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks as we begin that march on Marvel Alliance
Speaker 1: towards that. Thank you all, ladies. And oh, Travisy Gott thought.
Speaker 3: Yeah because when he said Nova the Nova interview, just
Speaker 3: coming back to that, Nova doesn't have a director, like
Speaker 3: a person in charge running it or.
Speaker 4: Anything right now.
Speaker 3: So I do think that this is going to come
Speaker 3: in the next couple of years that they're going to
Speaker 3: start filming out this. So yeah, and problem later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Paul Bett need to confirm to a certain
Speaker 1: member of our showed up Brent that he was planning
Speaker 1: to come back at that point. So that's too, listener,
Speaker 1: mister Brent tech brime. So all right, all, thank you
Speaker 1: all for joining us for this long episode. I hope
Speaker 1: you enjoyed it again. Thank you, Carrie, thank you everyone.
Speaker 1: We will see you all next week.
Speaker 4: Bye bye bye everyone,