Speaker 1: If you want to get the show early and ad free,
Speaker 1: head on over to the Peak Kinyonas show dot com.
Speaker 1: There you can choose from where you wish to support me.
Speaker 1: Now listen very carefully. I've had some people ask me
Speaker 1: about this, even though I think on the last ad
Speaker 1: I stated it pretty clearly. If you want an RSS feed,
Speaker 1: you're going to have to subscribe your sub stack or
Speaker 1: through Patreon. You can also subscribe on my website which
Speaker 1: is right there, gum Road and what's the other one,
Speaker 1: subscribe Star and if you do that, you will get
Speaker 1: access to the audio file. So head on over to
Speaker 1: the pekan Yonashow dot com. You'll see all the ways
Speaker 1: that you can support me there. And I just want
Speaker 1: to thank everyone. It's because of you that I can
Speaker 1: put out the amount of material that I do. I
Speaker 1: can do what I'm doing with doctor Johnson on two
Speaker 1: hundred Years Together and everything else, the things that Thomas
Speaker 1: and I are doing together onkindinal philosophy, it's all because
Speaker 1: of you. And yeah, I mean, I'll never be able
Speaker 1: to thank you enough. So thank you. The pekan Yonashow
Speaker 1: dot com. Everything's there. Want to welcome everyone back to
Speaker 1: the Peking Yona's show. Thomas's back and we are going
Speaker 1: to take a break from the Thirty Years War series,
Speaker 1: and Thomas has some thoughts and he wants to talk
Speaker 1: about Israel today. So take it away, Thomas.
Speaker 2: We've discussed Israel before in dedicated series more than one,
Speaker 2: I believe, and the Jewish state and its origins and
Speaker 2: it's founding mythologies and the ideological imperatives that gave rise
Speaker 2: to Balfour Declaration and Zionism becoming a significant global political force.
Speaker 2: I write extensively on that, and it's a major aspect
Speaker 2: of my manuscript, which I'm pleased to announces almost completed. However,
Speaker 2: there's there's a subject matter within that broader sort of
Speaker 2: pastiche of of factors that is neglected, I think, and
Speaker 2: not just by regime adjacent media and mainstream academ This
Speaker 2: was on my mind not just because of this foolish
Speaker 2: talk emanating from the way out of what Iran and
Speaker 2: the ongoing attempted subversion of the revolutionary government there, but
Speaker 2: about some months after the Twelve Days War, you know
Speaker 2: this this sort of performative air war. I guess that
Speaker 2: the Trump administration claims was targeting the Iranian nuclear program,
Speaker 2: which which I don't think exists in the way that
Speaker 2: is alleged by this administration or the regime generally.
Speaker 3: But that aside.
Speaker 2: Kamani Supreme Leader Kahmani, he made a speech and in
Speaker 2: it he talked about the Zionists plan for greater Israel
Speaker 2: and the Levant, which is essentially the total ethnic cleansing
Speaker 2: of large swaths of Syria as well as Gaza, as
Speaker 2: well as the Levant and the replacement of the indigenous
Speaker 2: element with racial Jews is defined by the zion Estate. Incidentally,
Speaker 2: the Zionist state defines who is a Jew in explicitly
Speaker 2: racial terms. It's a mirror of what the Nuremberg was were,
Speaker 2: which is significant because that's basically without precedent within Jewish life, Okay,
Speaker 2: and that's what come ins It was true. I mean,
Speaker 2: even if you don't accept the revolutionary governments position on
Speaker 2: other things, that's accurate what he described. And that's one
Speaker 2: of the reasons why the sort of direct action that
Speaker 2: IDF engages in seems outside of the scope of ordinary
Speaker 2: military activity. Even whether there's a strong ethnosectarian animosity president
Speaker 2: within the conflict paradigm and the hyper racialism of Israel
Speaker 2: goes back to its founding, and I'm going to discuss
Speaker 2: that discrete instances of open racial warfare that constituted a
Speaker 2: founding aspect of the military campaign that established the Jewish state.
Speaker 3: But it's also.
Speaker 2: Inductively one can extrapolate from that is it's part of
Speaker 2: a wider integral paradigm of Zionist activity, political, military, and sociological.
Speaker 2: That's the only way to understand it. And Israel was
Speaker 2: normalizing to some degree in the nineteen nineties, which is
Speaker 2: when and why Rabine was murdered and Israel, for all
Speaker 2: practical purposes became a one party state.
Speaker 3: But you know the.
Speaker 2: When I say, and when people like Ernst and Olti
Speaker 2: and like Norman Finkelstein and others have discussed Israel as
Speaker 2: being a totally abnormal state. So this is an aspect
Speaker 2: of what they're talking about. There's a dialectical aspect as
Speaker 2: well that relates to the same nucleus of historical causes
Speaker 2: that gave rise to the Soviet Union and the Third Reich.
Speaker 2: But it's also an outlier because it's the only is
Speaker 2: the only state of its kind that is taken on
Speaker 2: this naked we racialist naked we biologically racialist imperative as
Speaker 2: an absolute and unconditional aspect of its oracle mission and
Speaker 2: its ideological practice. And I go as far to say
Speaker 2: that it's essential to the constitution of the state conceptually
Speaker 2: and actually, and that's also one of the major problems
Speaker 2: that is emergent because that kind of secular, hyper racialized Zionism.
Speaker 2: Nobody really believes in that anymore. And going back even
Speaker 2: to the the you.
Speaker 3: Know, the.
Speaker 2: The nineteen forty seven forty eight war, which was really
Speaker 2: a massive ross and kree he goes, a massive racial
Speaker 2: cleansing operation by Hagana and the Zionist International. But what
Speaker 2: I mean, what's commonly you know, called the nineteen forty
Speaker 2: eight war. There was a problem with some of these
Speaker 2: outlying territories and Greater Palestine that had key strategic value
Speaker 2: but that were populated almost exclusively by the ultra Orthodox.
Speaker 2: Then these people had absolutely no interest in joining some
Speaker 2: some racialist crusade, you know, against their neighbors and shuffling
Speaker 2: populations around. I believe is something that the Leaku State's
Speaker 2: gonna rely more and moron literally uprooting ultra Orthodox populations
Speaker 2: and shoving them into racial lives battle spaces that they
Speaker 2: themselves have curated. It's essentially forced these people to fight
Speaker 2: or die and thereby try to radicalize them. I don't
Speaker 2: think that's going to work, but that's one of the
Speaker 2: things that that's going to be emergent. I believe it's
Speaker 2: you know, you know, to be clear that I'm not
Speaker 2: to get into this isn't hyperbole.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is.
Speaker 2: This, Uh, we're talking about the factual record. I admittedly
Speaker 2: present historical analyses and inductive terms. I've had the thought
Speaker 2: that it might be because I trained as a lawyer,
Speaker 2: but I think that's.
Speaker 3: More.
Speaker 2: If we're talking about ideological practice, I think that's really
Speaker 2: the only way to approach it, and not not in
Speaker 2: polemical terms, but you've really got to start with how
Speaker 2: ideological imperatives are expressed and implemented and go from there
Speaker 2: and understanding political behavior, especially at war, and especially in
Speaker 2: discussing a state that is such an outlier like Israel.
Speaker 2: So one are the examples I've been deeply researching lately
Speaker 2: was a Zionist operation. It was implemented by Hagana, but
Speaker 2: then it was continued by IDF. Hagana was the primary
Speaker 2: armed element of the Zionist International Okay. Like they basically
Speaker 2: Jews under arms in Palestine, Hagana was their primary organized force.
Speaker 2: Hagana became the idea of Okay. But just to be clear,
Speaker 2: from April to December of nineteen forty eight, Hagana slash
Speaker 2: IDF they implemented what was called Operation cast Thy Bread.
Speaker 2: This was a top secret biological warfare operation whereby among
Speaker 2: other things, Hagana they used typhoid bacteria they isolated to
Speaker 2: contaminate the drinking water in the wells of settlements that
Speaker 2: they wished to ethnically cleanse within the coveted within the
Speaker 2: battle space that constant the primary battle space constituted Palestinian
Speaker 2: territory that was coveted by the Zionist cadre. But Operation
Speaker 2: cast Thy Bread came to include neighboring states populated by
Speaker 2: people identified as racial hostiles, and it also had the
Speaker 2: further effect of preventing refugees who survived the ethnic cleansing
Speaker 2: operation from returning to captured villages, and also as well,
Speaker 2: it made it difficult for Arab relief armies, which arrived
Speaker 2: primarily from Jordan later on, to make use of extant
Speaker 2: water supplies which in the New Earies to this day
Speaker 2: is a major concern. This operation resulted in pandemic illnesses,
Speaker 2: at least locally, beyond the initial attrition that killed a
Speaker 2: lot of people. In the final months, IDF gave orders
Speaker 2: to expand the biological warfare campaign and the Egypt, Lebanon
Speaker 2: and Syria, but for some reason this was not carried out.
Speaker 2: I've got my own thoughts on that, and I'll get
Speaker 2: into that as we go on in this topical discussion. Now,
Speaker 2: when this started coming to light, the response from the
Speaker 2: designist political and military element, first and foremost from a
Speaker 2: man named Abba Iban. He was the main representative of
Speaker 2: the Jewish Agency for Palestine, which was one of the
Speaker 2: primary NNGO was involved in the settlement enterprise of bringing
Speaker 2: European jewelry to the Middle East. He went on to
Speaker 2: serve as the Israeli Foreign Affairs Minister, the Education Minister,
Speaker 2: the deputy Prime Minister. He was ambassad in the United States.
Speaker 2: He ended up he was their first permanent representative, Israel
Speaker 2: Service permanent representative the u N. He was VP of
Speaker 2: the UN General Assembly. This was a big deal and
Speaker 2: it's not actually in those days the UN actually had
Speaker 2: quite a bit of authority or cloud rather as much
Speaker 2: as an igo can. He insinuated himself into the UN
Speaker 2: for a reason. But the official statement from you know,
Speaker 2: Ida f Hagana authorities as well as the political cadre
Speaker 2: then in control of the NACA design estate was this
Speaker 2: was anti Semitic incitement and an Arab propaganda. You know,
Speaker 2: this was in response to the fact that in July
Speaker 2: the Palestinian Arab Higher Committee, who on the ground had
Speaker 2: pretty good relations with the British military contentionent that was
Speaker 2: in the process of disengaging and leaving.
Speaker 3: They reported.
Speaker 2: That there was wide scale use of bacterial logical warfare
Speaker 2: that was killing people in mass and that's how this
Speaker 2: came to the attention of the General Assembly and of
Speaker 2: the global newswire generally. Now it came out subsequently, owing
Speaker 2: in part to some Cold War intrigues, among other things.
Speaker 2: Hagana's chief operations officer was Yagaliya Din Yagalayadn in nineteen
Speaker 2: forty seven forty eight. The last UH known activity in
Speaker 2: this regard, I believe was February nineteen forty eight. He
Speaker 2: directed a microbiology student named Alexander Kenyon. Alexander Kenyon went
Speaker 2: on to become the director of the Israeli Institute for
Speaker 2: Biological Research. I'll get into what that institution does in
Speaker 2: a minute, but he ya Dean as chief operations officer
Speaker 2: of Aghana, he deployed Kenyon and the future is Raeli
Speaker 2: President Ifran Katzer, who also was a disease expert and biologist.
Speaker 2: He ordered them to begin researching the potential of chemical
Speaker 2: and biological weapons, what their potential was, how these things
Speaker 2: could be devised target discrete populations, how friendlies could be
Speaker 2: potentially inoculated, if a weapon couldn't be engineered that was
Speaker 2: splendidly devised to only affect targeted hostiles. And he had
Speaker 2: them go to Europe and see if they could make
Speaker 2: contact with ethnic Jews on both sides of the Iron Curtain,
Speaker 2: who had expertise in this regard. Now cat sears I
Speaker 2: mentioned he was a biophysicist, That's what his actual discipline was,
Speaker 2: and a big man. He went how to become a
Speaker 2: big man in the Israeli Labor Party and again he
Speaker 2: was president of Israel and Israel the real power of
Speaker 2: government is you know, in the Prime minister, but the
Speaker 2: president uh in national security affairs, as a fair amount
Speaker 2: of authority. But what ultimately UH Kenyon and kits you're
Speaker 2: they formed UH a unit that came to be called
Speaker 2: hemid be It, which was an operational bio warfare unit
Speaker 2: of the IDF Hagana then IDF, but the the the Israeli,
Speaker 2: the Israeli Institute for Biological Research. It's clear that what
Speaker 2: they were organized to do and what they continue to
Speaker 2: do to this day.
Speaker 3: Is UH the development of chemical and biological weapons, as
Speaker 3: well as developing vaccines and animotes and countermeasures against such weapons.
Speaker 3: This came to light.
Speaker 2: The biggest UH espionage scandal in Israel's history was the
Speaker 2: case of markets Klingberg. Marcus Klingberg was the highest ranking
Speaker 2: spy for the Soviet Union and warsaw PEC ever ever
Speaker 2: caught in Israel. He ended up becoming the UH Israeli
Speaker 2: Institute of Biological Research as deputy scientific director. He was
Speaker 2: this Polish Jew who was a committed communist and he managed,
Speaker 2: you know, the Soviets are very good at this. He
Speaker 2: managed to insinuate himself not just into Israeli scientific echa dean,
Speaker 2: but very much into politics. And not only was he
Speaker 2: the director of the ib R, but he became a
Speaker 2: head of the Department of Epidemiology from most of the seventies.
Speaker 2: He was finally arrested in nineteen eighty three. He was
Speaker 2: convicted in a secret military court, and Israel didn't even
Speaker 2: acknowledge that they had him, that he'd been caught, that
Speaker 2: he'd been convicted, until years after the fact. He was
Speaker 2: quite literally sent down a hole. Now, if you know
Speaker 2: anything about the Soviet Union and some of their priorities
Speaker 2: as regards WND, in the era of true strategic parody,
Speaker 2: the Soviets, just like we were, They were looking for
Speaker 2: alternative means to wage war that would take nuclear weapons
Speaker 2: off the table other than as a tactical force multiplier
Speaker 2: or last resort, and they convened what was called biopreparat. Famously,
Speaker 2: there was the anthrax accident and one of the Soviet
Speaker 2: unions closed cities were weaponized. Anthrax escaped and it killed
Speaker 2: a few dozen people, and Yelson was the local party commissar,
Speaker 2: and they claimed that some sort of outbreak of salmonila
Speaker 2: had or something in that order. They said it was
Speaker 2: tainted food. But Klingberg, it wasn't an accident. That the
Speaker 2: Soviets were so interested in I mean, the Soviets were
Speaker 2: constantly spying an Israels, they were at war with them.
Speaker 3: But there's a.
Speaker 2: Reason why there was such a dedicated effort in this regard.
Speaker 2: And in the final phase of the Cold War, post
Speaker 2: strategic parody, bioweapons and bio warfare potential became a matter
Speaker 2: of very serious study, okay, And so in the nineties
Speaker 2: when the Klingberg affair came to light, this all but
Speaker 2: proved what had long been suspected that Israel had a
Speaker 2: massive bioweapons program that was tailored for the purpose of
Speaker 2: devising viral and bacterial agents, with an emphasis on diseases
Speaker 2: that could target populations based on genetic fail I believe too,
Speaker 2: this is one reason why there's an internal racial hierarchy
Speaker 2: within Israel. It's not just social prejudice. Why so many
Speaker 2: Zionists are down on their Ethiopian brethren and they look
Speaker 2: down on a lot of Jews indigenous to the region,
Speaker 2: It's because they've got a hyper racialized view of political ontology.
Speaker 2: But also I think their entire military, political, sociopolitical conditioning
Speaker 2: revolves around quantifiable and calculable racial criteria, and the Ashkenasm
Speaker 2: are a genetically insular population. And you see where I'm
Speaker 2: going with this, which again it's a macabre subject matter,
Speaker 2: but this is the reality.
Speaker 3: In a.
Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety two there was a plane crash in the
Speaker 2: Netherlands LL Flight eighteen one eight sixty two. Among other
Speaker 2: cargo it was carrying, it was carrying cargo bound for
Speaker 2: the Israel Institute for Biological Research. This cargo consignment included
Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety liters of dimethyl methyl faust phone eight, which,
Speaker 2: among other uses, admittedly it can be it can be
Speaker 2: used in the synthesis of saren nerve gas, and it's
Speaker 2: scheduled for that purpose under the Chemical Weapons Convention, And
Speaker 2: obviously this created something of a scandal. The claim from
Speaker 2: Tel Aviv was that this material was non toxic and
Speaker 2: it was simply being employed to test filters that within
Speaker 2: military gas masks that protect against chemical weapons, particularly nerve agents,
Speaker 2: which are notoriously difficult to develop countermeasures against. And they
Speaker 2: claimed this was all above board, and this was listed
Speaker 2: on the cargo manifest and if you know, the airlines
Speaker 2: screwed that up somehow. That has nothing to do with
Speaker 2: any sort of sinister behavior by the Institute or by
Speaker 2: the Israeli government, the Dutch Foreign Ministry. Then when a
Speaker 2: damage control mode like the Zionist lackeys they are and
Speaker 2: have been since, you know, the since nineteen forty five,
Speaker 2: you know, and they began insisting that all these quantities
Speaker 2: were far too small for the preparation of a viable
Speaker 2: military useful, you know, nerve agent, but you know that
Speaker 2: very well could be used for perfecting detection methods and countermeasures.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: This led to this British journalist later in the nineties.
Speaker 2: I guess it's more of an intelligence writer. He's written
Speaker 2: a lot of expose a's on m I five and things,
Speaker 2: but first and foremost he's a journal was. But he
Speaker 2: he published an article on the iib ARE, the Israeli
Speaker 2: Israeli Institute for Biological Research, and he said it doesn't
Speaker 2: look anything like some academic research facility or even a
Speaker 2: very secure commercial or academic laboratory. He related that the
Speaker 2: facility is surrounded by a massive concrete wall topped with
Speaker 2: cutting edge sensors and surveillance technology. Armed guards patrol its
Speaker 2: perimeter twenty four to seven. No aircraft are allowed to
Speaker 2: fly over the facility. It doesn't appear on any map.
Speaker 2: Inside the facility, nobody can move about absent the use
Speaker 2: of code words and constant UH presentation of visual identification.
Speaker 2: It's surrounded by an outer shell UH that utilizes bomb
Speaker 2: proof doors that can only be opened by codes. The
Speaker 2: codes are changed every day. Every corridor inside is patrolled
Speaker 2: by armed guards.
Speaker 3: I mean you under this.
Speaker 2: This is the Essentially this place is as heavily defended
Speaker 2: as as as a as sack Norhead. But you're supposed
Speaker 2: to believe that it's just a laboratory that deals in
Speaker 2: research chemicals and and and and countermeasures against you know,
Speaker 2: poisoning things. So you get the picture. Not to be
Speaker 2: clear how this came about in in terms of deployment.
Speaker 3: In UH.
Speaker 2: The main there's there's two things I'm gonna talk about here.
Speaker 2: What I believe and what a lot of the evidence
Speaker 2: direct and UH circumstantial will suggests is that the experience
Speaker 2: of the racial cleansing of Haifa is what really encouraged
Speaker 2: Hagana I, DF and Earnest to start deploying bioweapons at
Speaker 2: scale around Acre in Acre rather in the suburbs on
Speaker 2: a May third, ninety forty eight. Acre famously was a
Speaker 2: you know, there was a Crusader castle there, one of
Speaker 2: the last Crusader garrisons. It was this, you know, were
Speaker 2: renowned city for its cultural artifacts and things. That's believed
Speaker 2: to be the first low Guy where typhoid germs were deployed.
Speaker 2: This was substantiated by the Red Cross as well as
Speaker 2: British authorities. It's not not not just Arab documents and testimony.
Speaker 2: Israeli troops introduced poison and they introduced the typhoid germs
Speaker 2: into Wells an Acre and in Elebon in Galilee, leading
Speaker 2: to a severe outbreak. H Acre was significant because it
Speaker 2: was to be allocated to a future Arab state vis
Speaker 2: a vis the UN partition plan for Palestine. It was
Speaker 2: heavily relied upon because of its aqueduct for its water,
Speaker 2: so it was imperative that within the boundary rationality of
Speaker 2: Zionus objectives that it being captured. The attack was carried
Speaker 2: out by the Carmeli Brigade of Hagana, who were considered
Speaker 2: to be the spear point, as it were of Jewish forces,
Speaker 2: Oriental Jews and Arab Jews indigenous to the region. They
Speaker 2: were generally charged with lesser mission orientations, and they also
Speaker 2: were encouraged and permitted to loot. And then when raports
Speaker 2: had come in about Hagana elements and IDF elements engaged
Speaker 2: in this kind of a pen and lawlessness, the claim
Speaker 2: would be that, well, these are just local militia men
Speaker 2: victimizing people, or oh they're Arabs. You know what language
Speaker 2: are they speaking? You know, it's very it's very clear
Speaker 2: what the motivation was there. And in addition to just
Speaker 2: prejudice within the tribe of against its own non ASKENASM brethren,
Speaker 2: probably the most successful in relative terms early use of
Speaker 2: chemical weapons was the village of bot Messir was racially
Speaker 2: annihilated and subsequently remaining refugees were murdered by way of
Speaker 2: the poisoned water sources, which, among other things, again precluded
Speaker 2: a return, and it required high investment to render these
Speaker 2: places livable again. But that's exactly what design of state
Speaker 2: did and replace the uh the people they killed and
Speaker 2: expelled with their own kind. But what happened in Haifa that,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, led to this wide use of biological agents.
Speaker 2: I mean, make no mistake, this wasn't imperative that was
Speaker 2: going to be pursued anyway for reasons of ideological practice.
Speaker 2: In Rosen krieg which are synonymous when we're talking about
Speaker 2: the design of state. But operations in Haifa haiphas a
Speaker 2: port city, and there's a fairly sizable contingent of British
Speaker 2: troops there, and as it became clear that you know,
Speaker 2: ethnic cleansing was probable, was possible, if not probable, a
Speaker 2: lot of the affluent and literate people fled Haifa. The
Speaker 2: people remained between fifty five and sixty thousand Palestinians. They
Speaker 2: were leaderless and there's a comparatively potry number of Arab
Speaker 2: volunteers under arms, so they were essentially at the mercy
Speaker 2: of Jewish forces in nineteen forty eight, and despite the
Speaker 2: presence of this British garrison, this is one of the
Speaker 2: most shameful episodes of the late British Empire. They were
Speaker 2: charged of protecting the people there and from preventing a
Speaker 2: race war. Essentially they did absolutely nothing and let this
Speaker 2: go on.
Speaker 3: But the uh.
Speaker 2: Hagana Idf they drove the Arabs from their homes and
Speaker 2: began forcing them towards the water, and they positioned snipers
Speaker 2: so that no one could escape, and then they began
Speaker 2: massively shelling this population at tens of thousands of people
Speaker 2: who were fleeing in terror, literally funneling them so they
Speaker 2: could only run in one direction, and then they began
Speaker 2: bombarding them with mortars and then just blowing them to pieces.
Speaker 2: The operation was code named Missparium, which means scissors, indicating
Speaker 2: the idea of both a pincer and cutting the city
Speaker 2: off from the Palestinian hinterland, as well as a surgical
Speaker 2: removal of the unwanted element.
Speaker 3: But this.
Speaker 2: Caused international outcry, especially because this British garrison, although totally
Speaker 2: derelict and their duty, they did constitute a cadre of
Speaker 2: credible witnesses to what happened, and it was a very
Speaker 2: bad look. There was testimony about people being stampeded to
Speaker 2: death as their co ethnics were literally running for their
Speaker 2: lives and being blown to pieces by mortar rounds or
Speaker 2: having their brains blown out by snipers.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Uh, most of these people were not military age males.
Speaker 2: They were Middle Agian old folks or women and kids.
Speaker 2: You know, So that mean this was a problem. Especially
Speaker 2: uh you know, television wasn't yet ubiquitous are even common,
Speaker 2: but cameras are becoming ubiquitous, particularly.
Speaker 3: In in combat zones. You know.
Speaker 2: It Uh Hypha, you know again, I mean it was
Speaker 2: as a port city, Uh was coveted. But the main,
Speaker 2: the main, really the only objective was racial warfare and
Speaker 2: the annihilation of the unwanted element based on biologically racial criteria.
Speaker 2: You know again, that's not iperbly as an arguable I
Speaker 2: will Uh.
Speaker 3: There was.
Speaker 2: To be fair too. There were instances of British on
Speaker 2: the ground acting heroically. Unfortunately that was the exception, not
Speaker 2: the rule. There was a it's only really only in
Speaker 2: one area. The first it was the oldest Palestinian neighborhood
Speaker 2: that had been built outside of the old city's walls.
Speaker 2: And it was also Uh. It was also where a
Speaker 2: lot of noble and notable families hailed from, including uh
Speaker 2: the Sans and include you know, the one of whom
Speaker 2: was a grand Mufti al Husseini who was a great man.
Speaker 2: But Uh, chik Jarrah is the neighborhood we're talking about.
Speaker 2: The local British commander did step in the instruction that
Speaker 2: came down to Jewish forces at chik Jarra in Uh
Speaker 2: April twenty four, ninety eight, was to occupy the neighborhood,
Speaker 2: destroy all its houses and you know, annihilator, expel every
Speaker 2: every every non Jew. The secretary of the Arab Higher Committee,
Speaker 2: doctor Hussain Khalidi, he'd UH liaised with the British Commander's troops,
Speaker 2: and UH the commander that garrison confronted Hagana and UH
Speaker 2: was ordered as men to to shoot the Jews if
Speaker 2: they tried to harm the the Arab population. And with
Speaker 2: the exceptionion about twenty houses that Hagana managed to blow
Speaker 2: up or burn, that was it because Uh, Hagana immediately
Speaker 2: backed down in lieu of fighting the British army, which
Speaker 2: goes to show too that these guys were just cowards
Speaker 2: who refused to intervene in other locales.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: And to be clear, this wasn't this was the British Army,
Speaker 2: This wasn't blue hats, it wasn't some stupid peacekeeping mission.
Speaker 2: This was the thin red line of the British Empire,
Speaker 2: you know. And UH they'd also given a commitment, they'd
Speaker 2: committed to protecting these people by their own initiative. Just
Speaker 2: to be clear, you know this about the conditions on
Speaker 2: the ground, but it goes to show that, you know,
Speaker 2: when when the British made it clear that they were
Speaker 2: going to defend the Arab population by force of arms,
Speaker 2: you know, Hagana back down.
Speaker 3: So this was a political decision by the.
Speaker 2: So called world community to let this happen. Among other things,
Speaker 2: that's not propaganda either, when people victimized by the zion
Speaker 2: of state, you know, issue forth that claim to be clear.
Speaker 2: But so there's a lot of reasons, including the fact
Speaker 2: that it wasn't clear if what happened in this community
Speaker 2: outside of the old city's walls, if this is going
Speaker 2: to become a matter of standing doctrine into the remaining
Speaker 2: British troops on the ground, if the roe that the
Speaker 2: crown handed down was going to be to any Haghana
Speaker 2: i DF when they attempt to implement these ethnic cleansing operations,
Speaker 2: even if that wasn't even if the Jews that are
Speaker 2: totally freehand, what happened at Haifa provoked global outrage in America. Obviously,
Speaker 2: the concern too was that these era populations are gonna
Speaker 2: be you know, appropriated by the Soviet camp, which is
Speaker 2: exactly what happened owing to the sort of unrestrained racial violence.
Speaker 2: So it was a perfect storm of incentives to go
Speaker 2: all in with the deployment of by a logical weapons.
Speaker 2: But again I'm not suggesting that it was barely exitent
Speaker 2: circumstances within the bound irrationality of the objectives of Hagana.
Speaker 2: They this would have been a matter of significant interest
Speaker 2: and as they viewed it, military necessity regardless developing a
Speaker 2: capability in this regard. But it's you know again, I
Speaker 2: this this is the best way to demonstrate the practice
Speaker 2: of Zionism, which again entails every aspect of Jewish life
Speaker 2: and the zion estate, military, political, sociological. This is the
Speaker 2: practice of design is dedicated racial warfare based on biological criteria,
Speaker 2: and that's not.
Speaker 3: Discussed enough.
Speaker 1: Well, when you when you take into consideration that they
Speaker 1: don't do DNA tests, they you know, they've I think
Speaker 1: they did at one point, but now it's basically they
Speaker 1: do it through birth certificates, marriage certificates, synagogue records, old passports,
Speaker 1: letters from rabbis or Jewish organizations. It really that raises
Speaker 1: a lot of questions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I I don't believe anything that comes out
Speaker 2: of Tel Aviv. They claim they stopped doing it after
Speaker 2: the uh But at the same time, for writer return stuff,
Speaker 2: particularly with saying this Ethiopian population that was claiming refugee
Speaker 2: status and write a return they're in you know, they
Speaker 2: submitted uh, they submitted genetic evidence. I mean for the
Speaker 2: way it plays out, like I said, it's pretty much
Speaker 2: exactly like the Nurember was. If you have a you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's it's Jewish parentage that makes you a Jew.
Speaker 2: But it's like, okay, like who's attesting to that? And
Speaker 2: plus two, I mean, there's you can you can tell
Speaker 2: it really is an There really is an Ashkenasm culture.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: That's very insular and uh sure there's ah it's not
Speaker 2: uh as formal within uh the tribe as it once
Speaker 2: was early on in the Zionist enterprise, I'm certain, but
Speaker 2: but it's make the mistake. It's it's uh, it's biologically
Speaker 2: coded because there's there's there's nothing else to secular Zionism.
Speaker 2: It's this bizarre prestiche of dead language revival, Holocaust mythology,
Speaker 2: racial supremacism. You know, it's not that's that's one of
Speaker 2: the reasons why. I mean, obviously it's primarily theological and conceptual,
Speaker 2: while the ultra Orthodox don't abide it. But it's also
Speaker 2: doesn't alien to them, it's some it's some weird import
Speaker 2: of uh these uh like mixed blood ash gnasm who
Speaker 2: were marinated in this racial pressure cooker of Central Europe
Speaker 2: that that doesn't have some that doesn't have a concept
Speaker 2: x the people outside of that.
Speaker 3: I mean, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2: There were there was a nutty and bigoted extreme ASTs
Speaker 2: indigenous to Palestine who took on design as cause and
Speaker 2: decided that they wanted to purify the Jewish homeland of
Speaker 2: of their racial enemies. But that that's not the the
Speaker 2: core of Zionism, not just in terms of the people
Speaker 2: who constituted you know, the the spear point of Hagan
Speaker 2: and things, but also the core idealogues they I mean,
Speaker 2: these by definition were people who came from elsewhere.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: But you also made the point in the beginning that
Speaker 1: the whole concept of like Eric's Israel is to bring
Speaker 1: you know, more Jews there. Uh do they want to go?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they can they survive without having
Speaker 1: a diaspora. I don't think they can.
Speaker 2: No, but it's not. But they also know that there'd
Speaker 2: never be a situation where Jews all migrate to Israel,
Speaker 2: I mean Israel secondary it's something I try to explain
Speaker 2: to people. It's particularly grotesque when they go about things.
Speaker 2: It's the people who believe in the enterprise are extremely
Speaker 2: radical and extremely violent. The it creates this sort of
Speaker 2: identitarian ethos and UH philosophy out of this endless conflict mechanism.
Speaker 2: But I mean that that's the whole point, among other things.
Speaker 2: The point isn't you know where we're gonna bring the
Speaker 2: diaspora all to Israel.
Speaker 3: I mean that may have been.
Speaker 2: In in you know, in in the Inner Warriors and things,
Speaker 2: or even in the immediate aftermath of Balford Declaration, and
Speaker 2: and you know, during a early UH race wars with
Speaker 2: the Arabs, you'd have guys talked that way, and some
Speaker 2: of them actually believed it. But that's that was never
Speaker 2: the majority of consensus among the Jewish people or their elite.
Speaker 2: And I mean that's never there was just never realistic,
Speaker 2: you know. But it's a doomed enterprise for all kinds
Speaker 2: of reasons. That's one of the reasons, or that that's
Speaker 2: that's the approximate cause of it's irrationality. It's it's got
Speaker 2: to realize this grand objective of this greater Judea racial
Speaker 2: state within theater or the enterprise is going to die.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: That's why, uh you know, in in in forty years,
Speaker 2: Israel as we know it won't exist anymore. What some
Speaker 2: sort of ultra orthodox theocracy will look like because an
Speaker 2: open ended question, but it's it's going to be very different,
Speaker 2: you know this, Uh, but that, but that's also why
Speaker 2: that's also why Netanyahu is just dictator for life, because
Speaker 2: there's there's nobody to replace him. There's no backbench. You know,
Speaker 2: it's a it's it's a gerontogracy, just like in America
Speaker 2: and American Israel are the same thing in terms of government.
Speaker 3: But you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: All right, Well that was uh, that was some important history.
Speaker 2: Thank you, you're welcome. Yeah, I hope that was informative
Speaker 2: and didn't bore everybody.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna borrow anyone. I'll remind everybody.
Speaker 1: The best way to hook up with Thomas if you
Speaker 1: want is substack. His substack is real Thomas seven seven
Speaker 1: seven dot substack dot com. And you know from there
Speaker 1: you can connect to everywhere else there's uh is it
Speaker 1: Thomas seven seven seven dot com. The t is a seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's my website. Yeah, and on social media and stuff,
Speaker 2: even though I I I really disdained social media. They're
Speaker 2: probably gonna ban me again too, because like a bunch
Speaker 2: of a bunch of a bunch of internet weirdos get
Speaker 2: really mad at me today. I mean like like, I mean,
Speaker 2: like people will eat us anyway sometimes, like I'll say,
Speaker 2: I'll make some offhand remark and I'll get really agitated.
Speaker 2: I think I think they're mad at me for like
Speaker 2: making fun of their making fun of their rabbi, mister Trump.
Speaker 1: But well, yeah, that is some Yeah, that's something that
Speaker 1: that's been hard to uh unsee lately. How many people
Speaker 1: have all of a sudden jumped on the Trump train.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean they're they're he lots uh in
Speaker 2: the in the synagogue of Figure. But I but I
Speaker 2: digreet point being I things are, things have been going
Speaker 2: very well. And yeah, I wanted to just just a
Speaker 2: good shout out in a couple of weeks where me
Speaker 2: and the Fellas are going to Michigan because Thomas Tour
Speaker 2: was starting up again in March and we're gonna go
Speaker 2: meet Nico Klou and I'm hoping some of the Detroit guys,
Speaker 2: some of the Detroit guys said they want to meet up,
Speaker 2: and I got a lot of love from our Michigan peoples.
Speaker 3: That made me feel good.
Speaker 2: But if you're one of those people's or if you
Speaker 2: want to meet up, go check out the upcoming events
Speaker 2: at Substack. I'm a Substack and all the infos right there.
Speaker 2: It's just gonna be like a quick like it's a
Speaker 2: quick two day con. It's like horror and crime stuff.
Speaker 2: So I'm sure a lot of people flying a freak flair.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be there. But we're going to see Nico
Speaker 2: and it might be cool man, and Michigan is in
Speaker 2: an awesome state, and you know, I'm looking forward to
Speaker 2: meeting our peoples there. So that's I just wanted to
Speaker 2: show my own ship real quick, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Thomas, thank you very much. Appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, buddy s