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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in everybody. It is Wednesday, Rob. You you

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know one a night last night. Two. You just can't

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ask for a better start to the NCAA tournament. Two

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games that come down to the final possession. I wish

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you NBC ended a little bit differently, but I got

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one back in the NIT so one and one for

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me last night. It was a great night of basketball

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to kick off the NCAA tournament. Hopefully we get that

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kind of excitement tonight. How was your Tuesday night?

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Speaker 2: Well, the UNBC game was especially good because I had

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over one thirty nine and a half and it was

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not really in question ever in that game that it

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wasn't going to get over the number. Where I failed

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last night was with the Yale Wilmington game over and

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again someone kicked myself that you and I discussed this

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one with each other. I kind of kicked myself for

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up side underdog side plus points rather than playing total,

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but I did what I did, didn't get there. And

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also the late game UNLV and Cal Irvine, I head

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over the total and it landed on one forty seven.

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Crazy game there too. I know we're going to get

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into a little synopsis of last night's n IT, so

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I won't describe it yet, but yeah, we were a

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little short after a very strong night with the opener

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UNBC and the NSKA Tournament. The NIT didn't treat me

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as kind last night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so just one in one for me. Yesterday

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I got my winner in the n I T. I

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actually kind of wish I leaned a little bit more

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into my NIT opinions may have may have had another

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winner in there. But I want to start with just

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a couple of takeaways from the NIT. But also I

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will time stamp this because I know people are going

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to want to come back to it. So I went

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through this is just on teams that won yesterday. So

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when I was talking about, hey, you really got to

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know who's playing right, and like you know that that's

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part of what we're gonna do today when we go

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into the second wave of n I T games, I'm

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not even gonna talk about the losing teams. There's no

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point in wasting time talking about teams. Their season is over.

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Rob This is just on the winning teams last night. Auburn,

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no key, Sean Murphy, he just didn't show up. He

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was They did the coaching staff was was unaware he

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was not showing up, and so he did not play.

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And I would be kind of surprised if he plays

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at all in this tournament. That's typically not a great

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way to uh you know that that that's not encouraging.

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not playing. So that's that's one starter down for Auburn. Now,

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Wichita State won their game. They had everyone there, but

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will Burg got hurt. So that's one to keep keep

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an eye on for next round. Wichita State might be

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without their big will Burg in the next round. Tulsa

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failed to cover against Steven f Austin. No David Green,

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that's a big deal for Tulsa to leading for Tulsa

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this year. He did not play. I'd wonder if he

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is out for the for this entire tournament. Oklahoma State

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had and I think you were maybe onto this a

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little bit because you asked me about Davidson. Uh No,

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Anthony Roy no Victorious Miller. I believe they might have

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been disciplinary. So on the broadcast they said they broke

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a team rule. So maybe you'll see those guys back. Obviously,

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parselfala his his season has been over, so Oklahoma State

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didn't cover. I'm kicking myself for like you know, it moved,

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and then I should have just took Davidson anyway, because

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you know they would have covered Davidson covered all numbers.

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were basically without their top three or four scores, and

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so that'll be an interesting one to watch in the

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next round. And then the final one Rob Liberty. Liberty,

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one of their leading scorers, Methany was out. The winners

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Seattle UNLV, un C, Wilmington all full strength. So those

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are the eight teams that advanced. Five of them had

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key guys out and three of them were full strength.

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takeaways from nit action that you want to kind of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can tell you that I do have a

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contact inside Oklahoma State. That's how quiet. That was kept

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quiet enough for me to be asking at I think

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one thirty Eastern time yesterday, still asking any idea why

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this line is going down to my buddy who is

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getting direct information from I won't mention the name, but

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one time very prominent coach here with a bunch of kids,

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and they telling me would did not relay anything, not

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any suspensions, not anything. So I'm sitting there wondering, because

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am I thinking here? What is wrong? Still couldn't get

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He's not coming back this year. He's done. But when

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you're sitting without Anthony Roy, Victorious Miller, Isaiah Coleman, and

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Lukevich and you turn it out and then they still win,

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it's not a ringing indictment for Davidson who had fifty

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first half points and couldn't In Oklahoma State, there was

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a point with about two minutes, no less than two minutes,

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maybe a minute and a half left where they were

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up by six with potential to cover, and Davidson did

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drain the three and it kind of went back and forth.

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don't mention the team rule that was broken. They don't

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mention whether or not Steve Lutz is gonna play these guys.

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The remainder of the way, but something to look out for.

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Speaker 1: My gut tells me if it was a team rule,

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they may be back next game. Usually, like Broke, a

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team rule is typically one game. From from my experience,

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think suspended in definitely would have been the would have

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been the word wording if it wasn't like a one

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game thing. So that's something to keep an eye on.

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in the next round and and you know, we'll see

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what we can get to today. But ultimately I'm gonna

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I'm gonna probably start tomorrow's show with this same thing

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because that way you can, you know, go back to

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the timestamp Saturday. These teams are gonna all play again

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over the course of this weekend, I believe, either Friday, Saturday, Sunday,

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Ohio SMU breakdown, is that the books are really gonna

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lose track of these games once the NCAA Tournament games

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are starting to go and so when you see these

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n I T matchups up on a Saturday and books

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round because of course Thursday's games just ended, Friday's games

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are going on, you will get a soft line or

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like I don't, I don't know where I'll be looking

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to see where David Green was. But if that's like,

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is fortunate last night to win, took overtime at home

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to beat Steven f Austin. So yeah, some some and

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what we'll do this tomorrow for the games tonight. I'll

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to take care of in the NCAA Tournament, the first

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four And let's start with what what a game this

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is going to be. I've been talking about it for days.

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I'm either going to look very smart or very dumb

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by the end of the night. Tonight it's Miami of

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Ohio SMU. The reason I say that is because we

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did a show and Wayger Talk clipped me sort of

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basically saying Miami of Ohio is gonna win two games

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in this tournament. I actually feel like if they get

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through SMU tonight, they have a great chance against Tennessee.

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But as far as this game goes, Rob, I love

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the RedHawks. This is gonna be my parlay leg. This

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is a client play for me. There's no sense in

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trying to come on here and act like I'm not

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like on Miami of Ohio Already, I've said it on

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like four different shows. I said it on the radio

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this morning. So it is my love for Miami of

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Ohio as a dog here warranted And are you gonna

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get involved with the total because you've kind of nailed

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these Miami of Ohio totals all season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of the totals that I liked

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coming out at him. I think we may have talked

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about this, maybe you and I on Monday. Today is Wednesday.

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was Sunday. I think it was Monday, you and I.

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But again, this is one of those where it's hard

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to see defensive resistance on any side. We have so

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much proof game results, data points, whatever you want to

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call them, of the lack of deepense shown by both

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of these teams. Of course, we're SMU. Let's just start

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and begin with the BJ Edwards situation. He hasn't played

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in a few games, probably not playing here tonight either,

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so SMU has had a few games to get used

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to that. And SMU has also had a couple of

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games where they scored despite not having him seventy eight

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against Florida State, eighty six against Syracuse of course in

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the final, or in the SCAACC tournament, the game they

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got booted from the tournament, they only scored fifty eight

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against Louisville. Those teams had seen each other twice already

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this year, so it's not hard to figure that there

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could have been some defensive adjustments since some really good

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defensive knowledge of sets and whatnot. But here, well, I

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don't know. Miami O. We talked a lot this year, Adam,

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as Miami O went through their undefeated season about how

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kind of watered down the MAC was this year. There

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weren't many good teams Akron, even Miami of Ohio. As

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they kept winning and winning. They were winning close games,

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high scoring close games, mind you, against lesser teams in

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this league five hundred, sub five hundred, you name it.

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whatsoever scoring. And they love pace. And while Miami's is

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I think can be described as controlled pace, they still

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do like first open shot, take it. And they do

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get first open shot quite a bit and quite quickly oftentimes.

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can drain these shots. So to me, it's an up

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and down game without a lot of defensive resistance. Neither

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side's going to back off. There's no you know, it's

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too late now for Andy Enfeld to try and do

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I think they both believe they can outscore the opponent tonight.

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To tell you the truth, I think Miami oh believes

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they can win an eighty eight eighty six game. I

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think SMU believes the same thing. So to me, after

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seeing Dayton yesterday with UNBC and Howard and the amount

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of points that were put up there, we know right

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off the bat at the Dayton Rims, and I think

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this was proven the last couple of years. Really, they're

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not difficult rims. You score at this venue as long

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as you don't come in too wired and maybe a

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little bit too nervous. I don't think the lights bother

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either one of these teams. So for me a little

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bit surprised that hasn't moved off one sixty three. But

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perhaps those who do numbers and play these games off

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of analytics plus sharp groups, maybe they just thought this

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was in a good place from the get go, because

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this is one of those numbers. Is that the oddsmaker

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hasn't had the move or hasn't seen his opener budget whatsoever.

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for Miami, Ohio with the fact that you know, they

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for two months, every single game they had a target

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on their back. They were the favorite. They took every

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single team's best shot in Mac play, they were every

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team's biggest game of the year in Mac play. You

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UMass game in years right, like every single one. I

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was at the game in Athens. Ten thousand people at

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the convote for that game, and they won every single

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one of those games. Yeah, they lose to UMass in

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the conference tournament, but now they have like they went

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from having all the pressure and all the expectations to

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being the team with no pressure. And they were almost

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underdog and they're in the tournament. Part of the pressure was, oh,

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if they lose one, are they going to get in? Well,

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we know the answer to that. They're in and rob

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they're also fifty minutes away from their campus. But to

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further this, let's go back to the injury discussion. What

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I'm hearing is BJ Edwards is nowhere near ready to

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play like or in playing shape. So BJ Edwards, it's

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his ankle. I fully expect SMU to milk this to

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the point where he's even out there for warm ups.

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Think like Donnie Freeman Syracuse for like the first month

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of the season, where they sent him out there to

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do warm ups every game and then he didn't play.

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That's what I think this is would be j Edwards

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because I think they had to make it as realistic

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as possible that he would play to help there, because

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if he was just ruled out, they might have given

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this last spot to Auburn, right like if they knew

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he was going to be out for the tournament. So

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I think SMU had to sort of play it up

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a little bit. I think if you see him tonight,

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it's in a very limited roll off the bench. What

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I'm more concerned with here, Rob is Corey Washington's now

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on the injury report undisclosed. Okay, that's not good. Typically

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you don't want to see that Corey Washington undisclosed injury

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eleven point three points per game, you might be without

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two scorers in a game where you need to score.

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Because Miami of Ohio should shred this SMU defense. You know,

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their bigs are not super fast, they don't depend defend

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the pick and roll particularly well. So like Miami's gonna

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get theirs here. In my opinion, the question is is

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SMU gonna score up and over the number they need

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to cover this number? And I say no, So I took.

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I took Miami Ohio plus seven. I feel like I

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maybe should have gotten seven and a half. That's on me.

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The eight and a half was out there really, So

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what happened from a betting standpoint was open seven and

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a half on Sunday, it got quickly faked up to

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like eight and a half and then bet right back

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down to seven. It's been it's either seven and a half,

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seven or six and a half ever since, So I

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think seven is a fine number.

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Speaker 2: Rob.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it right here. They're gonna win this game,

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not even gonna need the points.

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Speaker 2: It was a great draw to Adam. I think I

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made this point a Sunday when we were on the

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selection showed that every projection that we saw from backatologists,

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and not that we pay a ton of attention to it,

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but I did, because my youngest went to Missouri. Every

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projection I saw, I had Missouri playing in this game

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against Miami of Ohio. And in fact, they thought that

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in Missouri in Columbia, Missouri, where I do a segment

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every Friday afternoon, and they asked me the question. It said,

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it looks like we're gonna play Miami, O. What do

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you think? And I thought that was a great matchup.

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For Missouri. Turns out Miami of Ohio gets SMU, which

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is a dream matchup for Miami of Ohio. It's so

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different than having to play Missouri. No physicality on the

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defensive end, pretty much up and down style, no really

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set type of offense here. So for Miami Yo, just

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from a side perspective, really good draw and they do

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have opportunity to move on here. Think it'll be high scoring.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And just to for additional context, I mean I

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made the number five point four and that was before

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having any idea that Washington might miss. So like, no

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matter how you slice it, I think there's value on

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Miami Ohio. Again, I didn't even get the best number

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in this scenario. I got clients have seven, and I'm

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even I'm fine with that. I prefer seven or better.

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We will use seven for the parlay, and that is

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one of my client plays tonight. Miami of Ohio plus seven.

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So first leg of the parlay locked in. We need

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to hit a couple of these rob maybe we'll go

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three team or today we'll see what the rest of

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the show brings. But what I'm gonna do, so Garth,

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I see you there, and I'm gonna just go to

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the other NCAA tournament game first, because enough people are

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talking about it in the chat where I think we're

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gonna get to it at some point anyway, So then

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we'll go to your question. It looks like Bayu is

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making a case for Prairie View in the in the

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comments after last night, Rob, I think I might agree

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with that a little bit more uh than than maybe

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I did prior to that game. So what what I

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mean by that is last night UNBC, I don't even

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think UNBC needed to play a great game to win

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that game. They just they just played poorly. And still

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even with playing poorly, they still came down the court,

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had a look from three to tie the game. It

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didn't go in. But the more I sort of think

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back to how that game played out, Yes, it was

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poor play, but they also were very put off by

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the physicality of Howard. And even if you heard Jim

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Ferry you want an how about that end game quote,

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Rob where he was just like he's doing an interview

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in the first half and basically he's like, this isn't

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my team right here. He's like, we're slow, we have

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no energy, we're getting beat to to the spot. We're

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getting beat to every fifty to fifty ball, and that

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was ultimately the story of the game. Like Howard just

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had better energy, they were more physical and and they

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were able to win the game that way the swack teams.

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So Howard comes from the MIAC Prairie View from the

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swack typically that's the mo of these swack teams. They're

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they're what they lack and maybe like basketball, you know, coaching,

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like they're they're not always the You're never going to

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turn on a swack game and just see like you know,

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like Miami of Ohio type spread offense or Ben McCollum

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type preparation. You're you're gonna see like super physical and

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go straight to the rim. But it has worked in

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these playing games over the years. Like the swack teams

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have a very good record in the playing round and

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it's because they run up against a team like Lehigh

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who can't match them physical, can't match them on the glass.

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And in Lehigh's specific instance, you know, if Prairieview can

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shut down Hank Alvi, they probably win this game. So

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I gotta be honest, at this point, Lehigh minus three

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and a half, that's like way too inflated. For me,

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I'd be looking to punch back with the dog. How

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do you see this one, prairie View prairie View Lehigh

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And can you apply that to the total at all

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since you're coming off a total winning the play in

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last night?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in this game. For those who saw prairie

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View win their conference tournament finals the other day and

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in fact go back to watching them beat between Cookman

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and Reggie, theis a couple of days before Adam, and

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they've done it throughout with defense. How about this is

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a team that's on an eleven and oh ats run

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prairie View eleven and oh ats last eleven games? Done

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it mostly with defense. But the point I want to

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make about both of these teams, and more so about

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prairie View when they won, When the clock hit zero

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and they won that conference tournament final, it was an

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absolute mob scene. A lot of these teams that come

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from not the number one seed, but prairie View I

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think came from a really low seed. Six. Maybe I

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don't have my Swack tournament bracket in front of you,

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but I think they came from like the six to

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win that thing. And you'd have thought they won the

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national championship, and now you have to get back and

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get ready. I think that's what happened to UMBBC a

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little bit last night. Still, the elation of beating Vermont,

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of winning that tournament come out flat because these teams

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don't get the full four days to regroup, reset game plan.

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They go right back at it a couple of days

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after being selected. So for prairie View, I do wonder

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if they get right back on their feet, and the

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same to me goes to Lehi, who as well, is

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not a huge run. Seven to two ats eight and

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one straight up. I didn't think they could win a

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couple of those games. I didn't even at the end.

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I didn't know that they would beat Boston. You, but

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they did. They won all the way through the better

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shooting team. I think that there's a real dichotomy here

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between these two. Prairie View is going to defend like

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crazy from the tournament two games that I watched, and

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Lehigh is going to shoot the basketball very methodical. Prairie

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View is not really a solid up and down type team,

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but they are a defensive, hounding type team. So to me,

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you could be looking at an under here. Adam I

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don't know that the shooting of prairie View, and this

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thing's been bet down now that I look this numbers

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down to one two and a half open, one forty six.

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I agree with that total movement here. Prairie View is

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going to be up on Lee High shooters. Prairie View

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not good enough shooting the basketball. I don't think to

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dent Lehigh all that much. And the pace, I think

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Lehigh can somewhat control it because Prairie View kind of

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goes wherever the other side wants them to go. But

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I wasn't pressed, especially by the win against Hugh Cookman

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and this eleven and how do you get in front

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of an eleven and zero points spread team last eleven

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games coming in. I think the only way you get

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in front of that is if you convince yourself that

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the conference tournament final was so big for them and

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they haven't had enough time to come back to Earth

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yet to play this game. So we'll see leg I

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can't shoot it good enough. If they open up on

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a big run, maybe it wakes peririe View up right away.

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But I could see prayer of you getting caught at

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the beginning. But that defense is really, really good from

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what I saw, and they're relentless. Adam, there's like no

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lack of energy for prairie views. So I could see

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under here in this case, under one forty two and

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a half is out there. Yeah, more often than not

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you can find one forty two and a half. So

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I see some places even lower. But you shouldn't have

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any trouble getting a one forty two and a half.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was pretty tuned into this le high run

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through the conference tournament. Toward the end of the tournament,

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I went to the Patriot League final Athlehem, PA. And

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what I can note about that stretch is, like I mean,

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Hank Alvy's playing out of his mind, he is, and

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in that conference, which I've talked about numerous times on

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this show this year, the Patriot League is very down

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from what it's been in years past. Like you know,

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I use the No Williamson example, him leaving to go

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to Alabama, right, Like for years, even at the beginning

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of NIL the Patriot League, for the most part, you

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would have the grad transfer out of the Patriot League,

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but you didn't see guys really leaving the league. And

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so now like this is as I think this is

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as as not talented for that lack of a better term,

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as the Patriot League has been in a long time.

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They don't have a ton of size on any of

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these teams. They don't have great bigs on any of

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these teams. The last time le High faced some a

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big that could really sort of take Alva out of

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the game was their most recent loss on February eighteen

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against Navy, when they lost seventy two to forty nine.

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Alvi had eight points and thirty minutes. He couldn't do

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much in that game. So like, that's kind of how

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I think Prairie. You can throw some size and some

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toughness at Alvi and if they can take him out

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of the game, I mean, Lehigh's gonna have to go

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nuts from three to win this game, in my opinion.

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B You tried to do that a little bit in

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the finale. But the thing is Lehigh did hit a

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lot of those shots, and by Boston University just could

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not shoot the ball in that game. That was a

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They were one for sixteen in the Patriot League Final

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from three, Boston You so you know Lehigh on You're

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looking at Lehigh's most recent game seventy four to sixty win.

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But you know Defty Ben Defty, who's who's a seven

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foot center for Boston University. He did an okay job

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on Alvi. I mean, be you just straight up could

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not buy a bucket in that game. So maybe a

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little bit deceiving in the final there because I thought,

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you know, I thought they did an okay job on

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Alvi in that game. And I think Prairie View is

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set up to do an okay job on Alvi because

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they have the more physical like they're gonna push him around.

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They're more physical, they're more athletic, and if they can

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really bother him to the point where he's not able

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to take over the game, then I think you're going

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to see prayer youew win. So I would I can't

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really put anyone off wanting to take the three and

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a half there. You know, I leaned lehigh rob earlier

478
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,440
in the week when it was like minus one and

479
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,079
a half, But now that that's got hit up two points,

480
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,759
I think the only way I could go would be

481
00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:36,480
to go, you know, sort of punch back against the market.

482
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 2: Again. I think Steve Duke right there in the comment

483
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,400
that you're flashing at him is you know, referring to

484
00:25:44,839 --> 00:25:46,960
what we were saying about per review being on the

485
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,920
eleven and oh ats run. I mean, I don't know

486
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,799
how you go against that either. Very difficult to bet

487
00:25:51,839 --> 00:25:54,119
into those things that, like I say, you can justify,

488
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,039
you can look for reasons, but it's guesswork. You're guessing

489
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,960
about a team's emotional state, and it's so hard to

490
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,119
beat games that you're only guessing. Could be right, could

491
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,000
be wrong. I always say twenty twenty hindsight. You know,

492
00:26:08,079 --> 00:26:11,400
we don't have that going in. So, yeah, this is

493
00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:13,880
this just seems to me. It's got a different a

494
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:19,039
way different feel than Howard UNBC did last night, more

495
00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:23,519
free flowing, more offense oriented. This one, you know previews,

496
00:26:23,839 --> 00:26:28,640
it's a squad that when you watch them, they'll run,

497
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,519
but it's kind of like they run with no sense

498
00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:35,000
of where they're going. They'll score off of it, but yeah,

499
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,880
they just don't have a sense of where they're going,

500
00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:39,559
but they could score. So interesting game. I would lean

501
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,599
a little bit under. Didn't play it, but I would

502
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:42,160
lean that way.

503
00:26:44,599 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see it being a kind of a

504
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:46,960
dog fight.

505
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 2: There's Navy or we need Navy, not Lehigh, we need Navy.

506
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. Uh, it's unfortunate, but I'm sure we'll

507
00:26:54,319 --> 00:26:59,039
get to Navy in this In this show, let's go

508
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,759
to well. First thing a promo Double the Double Firepower

509
00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:07,599
CBB packaged three day myself and Rob. If you started today,

510
00:27:07,599 --> 00:27:11,200
it's Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Obviously, if you wait till tomorrow

511
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,359
you get Thursday, Friday, Saturday, although tonight is from a

512
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,160
betting standpoint, just as good as Thursday and Friday in

513
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,039
my opinion. With you know all the n I T games, I,

514
00:27:21,079 --> 00:27:23,519
as I already said, played one last night South Alabama,

515
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,119
pretty easy winner. Kind of kicking myself for not getting

516
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,400
to the window with a couple others. But again, there's

517
00:27:29,519 --> 00:27:33,119
just a lot of uncertainty when it comes to, uh,

518
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,799
you know who's playing in these games, and and like

519
00:27:35,839 --> 00:27:38,880
you were even saying yesterday, like I I had heard

520
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,279
that Roy might not play for Oklahoma State, but I

521
00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:44,720
certainly was unable to confirm it. And then they roll

522
00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:47,599
up without multiple guys playing. So uh, that's what I'll

523
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:48,920
be doing the rest of the day. For the rest

524
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,440
of the show. Uh, let's start to get into some

525
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,039
of these n I T games. So let's go to

526
00:27:54,079 --> 00:27:56,359
Garth here first, when he's gonna bring up he says

527
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,240
he's looking at Kent State plus five and a half

528
00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:00,920
and I'm gonna I'm gonn to go go to my

529
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,480
Odds logic screen here because if it is five and

530
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,920
a half, which it is now, that's definitely taken some money.

531
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,319
Since the opener believe this open Illinois State minus seven.

532
00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:15,880
This game is in normal Illinois tonight, so a home

533
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,240
game for the Redbird job Kent State taking money tells

534
00:28:20,279 --> 00:28:23,319
me to look for a couple of things. One, Chase

535
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,240
Walker has has played through injury for a lot of

536
00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:30,200
the second half of the season for Illinois State. That's

537
00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:32,400
you know, he's one of the best bigs in that conference,

538
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,640
so I'd want to know if he's playing. And then

539
00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:38,880
you know that like again, he's been in and out

540
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,119
of the lineup for Illinois State. So that coming down

541
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,880
a point and a half, that's that's that's where I'm

542
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,799
going to start to look and see, you know Walker

543
00:28:49,119 --> 00:28:52,200
he played, He yeah, so he was out. He got

544
00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:55,759
hurt on February twelve against Valpo, did not play again

545
00:28:55,799 --> 00:28:59,160
until the twenty fifth. He did play, and it played

546
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,000
pretty poorly in the conference tournament. So one and a

547
00:29:02,039 --> 00:29:04,920
half point moved to Kent State. That would be a

548
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,480
big omission to not have him against, to not have

549
00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:10,799
for Illinois State, to not have him against this Kent

550
00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:13,319
State front court. So talk to me a little bit.

551
00:29:13,359 --> 00:29:15,480
I have nothing to confirm that, but that's where I'm

552
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,240
going to start to Look. Do you agree with Garth

553
00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:20,480
that Kent State's got some value even after five and

554
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,119
a half.

555
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Edward Walker's concerned. Thirteen trips to the free

556
00:29:25,079 --> 00:29:30,519
throw line in that conference tournament final shows that maybe

557
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:32,880
he was involved in a little bit of physicality in

558
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,359
that game. Maybe that's a good sign for his presence.

559
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,279
Maybe it's not. We'll see. But they did run into

560
00:29:38,319 --> 00:29:41,960
the Northern Iowa buzz saw. If I just start with

561
00:29:42,119 --> 00:29:48,039
conference comparison, Adam, the Missouri Valley Is obviously had had

562
00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:52,119
a much better year and better teams than what the

563
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,279
MAC presented. MAC was top heavy, Kent probably the third

564
00:29:55,359 --> 00:30:01,559
best team in that league, certainly Kent Cape, and you know,

565
00:30:01,839 --> 00:30:03,880
Kent's one of those teams where I don't worry about

566
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,400
them being on the road. Honestly, Illinois State home floor

567
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:14,160
advantage not that bad. But again, you have to decipher

568
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,279
what's let's get back out on the floor and win.

569
00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:21,960
And what's man, we're po that we lost the conference

570
00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:24,920
championship game to Northern iowhen we missed our shot at

571
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,680
the Big Dance March Madness. That's the category that Illinois

572
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,480
State falls into. Kent State eliminated before the conference tournament final.

573
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,359
So I would think that they're more a little more

574
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,400
rambunctious to get out on their floor. We saw last night,

575
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,599
and I don't know this one the answer to this

576
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,599
one either, but we did see last night that Tulsa

577
00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:49,119
as good as they are and at home put nobody

578
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,160
in the stands. That was a dark, empty building. It's interesting.

579
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:58,880
I'll just give us a quick side story here. My

580
00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:03,240
son's band about to go on tour and their their photographer.

581
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:06,559
The band photographer flew in last couple of nights ago.

582
00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:11,039
He's from Tulsa, knows a lot about the program, those

583
00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:13,720
a little about OSU as well. But we looked at

584
00:31:13,759 --> 00:31:16,400
the screen last night of the game, he's like, my god,

585
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,839
it must be spring break in Tulsa's when I left,

586
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,920
I think it was spring break. And then you look

587
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,839
at Gallagheriba where there were people and all these teams

588
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,279
are not on the same time frame where spring break

589
00:31:28,359 --> 00:31:30,960
is concerned. So something to look into to see whose

590
00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:34,960
gym is gonna be full? Who's isn't Illinois State in

591
00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:38,599
a half empty gym wouldn't be good for them.

592
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,359
Speaker 1: Pretty big building there, Yeah, coming.

593
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,279
Speaker 2: You've been there, Go ahead and let them know you

594
00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:46,960
you've been there.

595
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: Well, no, I was just gonna comment. I'll let you finish,

596
00:31:50,039 --> 00:31:52,160
you know, the breakdown. But you made a really good point.

597
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,559
No one. No one at Yale yesterday. Uh, no one

598
00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:58,039
at Tulsa. But then you did have a couple of

599
00:31:58,039 --> 00:32:00,799
good crowds on Auburn had a nice crowd Oklahoma State,

600
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,359
so you know that that's definitely something to think about.

601
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,519
Illinois State's pretty big arena. Uh, they actually lost in

602
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:10,680
the quarterfinal round, so they they were out on Friday

603
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,000
in their conference champion tournament in the quarters to Northern Iowa,

604
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,440
who Northern Iowa eventually won the conference tournament. So you're

605
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,279
looking at twelve days since they've last played rob But yeah,

606
00:32:20,319 --> 00:32:23,599
like if they pull up to a arena that's not

607
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:26,640
that full, I would be concerned. I'm trying to think

608
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,960
because Illinois State has been in this tournament a couple

609
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,559
of times I can remember good n I T crowds,

610
00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:35,519
but sometimes those good n T crowds don't come until

611
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:39,079
like round two or the or the quarterfinal. The quarterfinal

612
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:41,559
games tend to get a decent turnout when when it's

613
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,920
when you're one went away from like you know, it

614
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,119
used to be going to the Garden. Now it's going

615
00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:48,960
to India and going to Hankles. So yeah, that's it's

616
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,400
it's something to definitely think about. You know how You

617
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,559
can can figure it out though, just go to the

618
00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:56,839
website and see how many tickets are for sale. If

619
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,960
there's dots all over the seat map, I haven't been purchased.

620
00:33:01,359 --> 00:33:04,279
On game day, probably gonna be a pretty light crowd.

621
00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:06,480
George Mason had an okay crowd last night. But that's

622
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,920
another one. They always get fans, Like there's some of

623
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,079
these places they always get a turnout, But if you're

624
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:15,599
not one of those places. I was surprised that no

625
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,359
one was at Yale last night. That was that was

626
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,680
the biggest shocker to me. I wonder if I wonder

627
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,000
if that program was just so like thought they were.

628
00:33:23,079 --> 00:33:25,799
They probably all came up to Anthaica this weekend, went

629
00:33:25,839 --> 00:33:29,759
to the IVY Madness didn't make the NCAA tournament. I

630
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:31,920
wonder if they were just like, yeah, we're just not interested,

631
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,759
because that was the shocker for me that they had

632
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,240
no one in the stands there for that game. But

633
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,200
go back to to your point about Illinois State, and

634
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,519
let's say you don't get a super motivated Illinois State.

635
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:46,880
You know, Ken State could absolutely come in here and

636
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:47,480
win this game.

637
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,319
Speaker 2: Well, and I think they just you know, I think

638
00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:53,079
they have more scoring ability, Adam. If we're gonna get

639
00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:55,759
let's just get into fundamentals for a minute here, this

640
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:01,079
style matchup without because in these in these games, these

641
00:34:01,119 --> 00:34:04,599
first round games, you have to drag in so many situationals,

642
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,119
so many exterior factors. But if we just get down

643
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,960
to how these teams match up, who should be able

644
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,239
to do what against one another? You know, the Kent

645
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:20,079
State is not an overly big team where height is concerned.

646
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,880
But Gillespie and Rob Whaley are a nice duo and

647
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,320
a high scoring duo where their height is concerned and

648
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,039
where their side is concerned. And I just don't Illinois State.

649
00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:33,639
To me and watching this league all season long, there

650
00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:37,000
were good scoring teams and then there was you know

651
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:39,960
a level below scoring teams, and I put Illinois State there.

652
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:42,280
They weren't in the class of Belmont, they weren't in

653
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,400
the class of Maurice State, they weren't in the class

654
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,920
really of Bradley, even Northern Iowa. At the end, as

655
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,320
slow as they go, you can depend on them for

656
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,480
offensive efficiency. Illinois State I think banks a little bit

657
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:59,639
more than Kent Wood on the defensive side. So to me,

658
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,800
the question becomes, can do I believe Kent can score

659
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,360
on the Illinois State defense? My answer to that is yes,

660
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,239
I think Kent has proven it. Again. You can say

661
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,480
that Kent did it against kind of lesser defensive opposition

662
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,840
inside the back, but they did it excessively. And I

663
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,599
would say this, I would say that Illinois State actually

664
00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:26,159
didn't have a ton of defensive competition in their league either.

665
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,840
That was somewhat more of a balance league rather than

666
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,039
defensive oriented league. So to me, I would take five

667
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:37,679
and a half here tell you the truth that my

668
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,920
better look here from a totalist perspective, would be on

669
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,760
the Kent team total. This total has been bet up

670
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,159
a little bit, but Kent's only asked in this case

671
00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:50,039
to get the seventy four points and they do that

672
00:35:50,119 --> 00:35:53,000
on a regular basis. No matter who they play, Kent

673
00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:56,639
can get the seventy four almost just by showing up.

674
00:35:56,679 --> 00:35:58,320
So if they show up in front of a flat

675
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:03,559
crowd in an empty building where they're motivated, I think

676
00:36:03,639 --> 00:36:06,239
kit team total probably would be my best look here.

677
00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:09,599
Speaker 1: So a couple of final thoughts before we move on

678
00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:12,360
to a different game. Like again, I I'm just going

679
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,719
off of the fact that like Walker was a little

680
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,639
bit banged up all that that last month, but like

681
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,400
he is the best rebounder on Illinois State, and Kent

682
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,360
State is a very good rebounding team. Like they You

683
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,760
could get a handful of a second chance points here

684
00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:31,159
for Kent State, especially if Illinois State doesn't have Walker

685
00:36:31,199 --> 00:36:33,800
here for some reason. But as it pertains to just

686
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,880
the over in general, when Illinois State has played without

687
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,880
Chase Walker there, they really are like a different team

688
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,719
since he's such like an offensive hub for them. If

689
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,639
they don't have him, I feel like I feel like

690
00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:50,239
it's a little bit baster of a game. Probably you know,

691
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,960
you're you're probably gonna you know. Another reason Illinois State

692
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,960
was disappointing this year, Rob Johnny Kinsinger just is not

693
00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:58,920
the same player that he was last year. He took

694
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,840
a big step back, started to shoot the ball better

695
00:37:03,519 --> 00:37:05,760
toward the end of the year, but still like this

696
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,000
guy was a thirty nine percent fre throw shooter for

697
00:37:08,039 --> 00:37:10,639
the first two years of his career, thirty percent from

698
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:12,920
behind the arc this year, And so I think that's

699
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,920
part of the reason why Illinois State has not sort

700
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,119
of ever realized their potential. It's probably why they've burnt

701
00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:21,440
money most of the year because they I don't from

702
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,440
from memory, I don't think they've been very good against

703
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,679
the number. They were consistently power rated one of the

704
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,679
top teams in this league and just never ever achieved that.

705
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,760
And I think it's still with at least with the

706
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:39,119
opening number of seven. Like the books are still very

707
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,280
they're really pricing Illinois State as like a top option,

708
00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:44,960
and even if the even at full strength, I don't

709
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,079
know if they've been that because Kinsinger is shooting ten

710
00:37:48,159 --> 00:37:50,320
percent lower from behind the arc than he was last

711
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,159
year and he's one of the sort of main offensive threats.

712
00:37:53,199 --> 00:37:57,039
So Garth, I don't dislike the call of Kent State.

713
00:37:57,079 --> 00:38:00,280
There you are so here as we're speaking, you're getting

714
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,000
some Illinois State buy back, which again that doesn't really

715
00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:06,840
surprise me either. This is one I'll have my eye on, though.

716
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,599
I want to see if Ken State's gonna play everyone,

717
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:12,119
because remember we just saw Kent State over the weekend

718
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,639
in the in the MAC tournament. Got to make sure

719
00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:19,719
that there's no one that's not gonna play. But Rob,

720
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,000
I'll go one final point. I'll let you close this

721
00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:26,440
one down. Illinois State is one of those teams. They

722
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,079
they fit the mold of like we haven't played in

723
00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:31,360
a really long time. They got knocked out in the

724
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,800
quarterfinal round of the first weekend, which means this will

725
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:39,360
be twelve days since they've played, and that I don't

726
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,000
think that that's necessarily a good thing.

727
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 2: I don't.

728
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: I don't love that for a team that maybe had

729
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,280
to get had to basically reconvene to play in this tournament.

730
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,159
That's that's not the profile I typically like.

731
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we did hit on that particular

732
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,079
aspect of the handicap yesterday, Adams. Some of these teams

733
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,519
you're gonna find their conference tournaments two weeks ago, opening

734
00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:06,639
week of conference tournament action, not the past weekend, which

735
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,880
the MAC does hold back. And they played the week

736
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,360
of the Big Boys, So Kent is the fresher team.

737
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,840
They've been on the floor more recently, which I always

738
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:21,920
think is an advantage. I don't like the excessive layoff. However,

739
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,559
to your point about Walker, twelve days off could help,

740
00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:31,599
could certainly help an injury type situation. So you have

741
00:39:31,639 --> 00:39:33,880
to kind of go through it all situationally. But as

742
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,360
a standard rule of thumb, I don't like teams that

743
00:39:38,519 --> 00:39:41,280
have been off for let's say, any more than six days.

744
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,480
Is a long long time for a college basketball team

745
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:47,920
that's used to such a regimented season where you're used

746
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,960
to playing every at least third or fourth day.

747
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,599
Speaker 1: Just gives me flashbacks to last year when they were

748
00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:58,760
literally pulling the Samford kids off the beach and we're like, yo,

749
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,639
you guys got a game Tuesday. That's a true story.

750
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,679
They were, they were all on spring break. They had

751
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,519
to like flat round them up. Hey we got to

752
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:11,159
go play George Mason on Tuesday, and predictably they got destroyed.

753
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,840
That was from last year's n I t So stuff

754
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,039
like that very important. We can we can do an

755
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:21,679
NCAA tournament game. I'm not gonna deny the request for

756
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,400
an NCAA tournament game if you, you know, Frank appreciate

757
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,840
the donation. And and then we'll go to Mad Max,

758
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,639
who's who's got a donation as well in one of

759
00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:31,639
the n I t games.

760
00:40:32,039 --> 00:40:32,199
Speaker 2: Uh.

761
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,559
Speaker 1: And then Rob will let you lock in a parlay lake.

762
00:40:34,639 --> 00:40:38,119
So let's start here, uh, he says, Adam, Rob and

763
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:40,960
Steve Merrill. Shout out Steve, that was a fun show

764
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,639
on Sunday night doing the live bracket reveal. He says,

765
00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:46,280
thank you for your ongoing advice. It was a great

766
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,639
day for me yesterday. Any hints with TCU and Ohio

767
00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:52,559
State and Rob, I'm just gonna say what I've said

768
00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:56,519
on a couple of shows previous. I love the TCU backcourt.

769
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,000
I've said this all year. I think that they are

770
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,960
on very underrated defensively when it comes to their on

771
00:41:03,159 --> 00:41:06,760
ball pressure. If you can get through that, you can

772
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,719
probably beat TCU a little bit at the rim. But

773
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,920
TCU has done a really good job defending the likes

774
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,960
of like a Florida. You know, there's numerous sort of

775
00:41:17,039 --> 00:41:21,079
instances in Big twelve play where their guards really disrupted

776
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:24,119
a better team. And now you look at Ohio State

777
00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:27,280
and if you can sort of disrupt Bruce Thornton, You've

778
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,360
got a really good chance to beat Ohio State. So

779
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,800
I like the TCU Hartbrogs. I have not bet this yet,

780
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,119
but it's on my radar, so I'll just I'm gonna

781
00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:38,880
leave it at that. I don't really have much else

782
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,159
to add. Talk to Frank about TCO Ohio State.

783
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 2: Rub Yeah, good game. The line is indicative of where

784
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,400
the overall personnel on these two teams is concerned, disappointed,

785
00:41:52,599 --> 00:41:55,880
somewhat adam on the Ohio State side, although the play

786
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,119
got a little bit better as the season went on.

787
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,639
Of the seventh Christopher Tilly, who transferred over from the

788
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,119
WCC to Ohio State this year, I thought he'd be

789
00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:10,440
more impactful than he was overall this season, a little

790
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,519
bit better as the season went on. But what's more

791
00:42:13,559 --> 00:42:16,079
than a little bit better as the season went on

792
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,599
is the performance of TCU nine to two straight up

793
00:42:19,639 --> 00:42:23,199
down the stretch in a very very difficult conference, and

794
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,440
the ability to play multiple ways in TCU will beat

795
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,400
you sixty seven to sixty five, and then TCU can

796
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,159
win ninety two to eighty eight. It just doesn't matter.

797
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,199
They can score. I think an underrated player in this game,

798
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,920
and he missed a couple of games, or at least

799
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,280
a little bit of time was played through injury. Was

800
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,639
David Punch for TCU. We talk about the Guards a

801
00:42:45,679 --> 00:42:49,039
ton because of their defensive tenacity. I know you first

802
00:42:49,079 --> 00:42:52,159
brought that up a long time ago started the season,

803
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,639
and that's key in this matchup when you go up

804
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,519
against Thornton, when you go up against John Mobley. Devin

805
00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:03,840
Royal's played really well for Ohio State, who's gotten better

806
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,599
down the stretch too. I think they're four and one

807
00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:09,199
to close the year. But Ohio State is guard driven,

808
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,239
definitely guard driven from an offensive perspective, where I think

809
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:19,239
Jamie Dixon's team is one that's far more capable of

810
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,079
dispersing points, which I like in these tournaments where you

811
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:26,679
can have five guys, four guys in double figures, let's

812
00:43:26,679 --> 00:43:30,440
say between eleven and eighteen or twelve and twenty one,

813
00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:35,159
something like that, more options, more people to defend. Here,

814
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,880
You're absolutely right, you go get Thornton and Mobley and

815
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,840
Royal have been nice, complimentary players, But I don't know

816
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,559
that without Bruce Thornton putting up twenty plus that Ohio

817
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:49,159
State can win a game. Inside a tournament like this.

818
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,960
So I had a little bit of success Adam throughout

819
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,119
the season playing Ohio State overs because I would fade

820
00:43:57,159 --> 00:44:00,480
their defense a little bit. In Big ten play worked

821
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:04,119
to an extent. I have a hard time seeing which

822
00:44:04,159 --> 00:44:06,400
way this game is going to go. You know, last

823
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:11,039
night we watched Texas and NC State play a sixty

824
00:44:11,159 --> 00:44:13,360
six to sixty four game or wherever. That was sixty

825
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,719
eight sixty six, very low scoring. I could see that

826
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,480
happening here in terms of being in the mid one thirties.

827
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:22,159
But I could also see this being in the low

828
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:25,679
one fifties, seventy seven to seventy four. Because both teams,

829
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,199
especially TCU, is capable of going both ways. I think

830
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,400
that Ohio State is more apt to want to play

831
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,360
the game higher scoring. The question is going to be

832
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,320
and Thornton's been around so long. I really don't know

833
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,519
why I should question his ability to handle pressure because

834
00:44:42,559 --> 00:44:44,679
he's just been at Ohio State for so long and

835
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:50,280
done it at such a high level. I have a

836
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,360
bias to want to play TCU. I don't have a

837
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,440
real good feel on this total I have to tell you,

838
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,519
I think this game could be played one of two ways.

839
00:44:57,519 --> 00:45:01,639
Probably a better in game bet in a pre flop

840
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:02,639
so to speak. Bet.

841
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:06,639
Speaker 1: You know, I think if this game was played maybe

842
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,719
five weeks ago, a month ago, five weeks ago, it

843
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,159
would have been a very easy bet on TCU for me.

844
00:45:12,679 --> 00:45:15,719
But like you said, like Ohio State, Thornton has had

845
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:20,760
some complimentary help over the last like month. Ohio State's

846
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,760
kind of quietly been very very good. You know. They

847
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,920
they played their way from like maybe not making the

848
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,519
tournament all the way to an eight seed, right like,

849
00:45:29,559 --> 00:45:32,440
that's that's ay. They've had a really impressive sort of

850
00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:37,079
close to the season. So it's it would only be

851
00:45:37,159 --> 00:45:40,480
TCU for me, TCU or pass. But I think I

852
00:45:40,639 --> 00:45:44,280
maybe maybe need to give Ohio State a little bit

853
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,599
more respect than I'm giving them. It's that's what That's

854
00:45:46,599 --> 00:45:48,400
what's putting me off here. That's why I haven't bet

855
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,960
this yet. I'm wondering if I'm maybe underestimating Ohio State

856
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,119
because I'm looking at the whole body of work and

857
00:45:56,159 --> 00:45:58,440
not and not putting enough stock into how good they've

858
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,360
been down the stretch, because I think that would sort

859
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,480
of even and out a little bit. And again, if

860
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,760
Thornton's got help, you know, putting the ball in the basket,

861
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,480
Ohio State probably wins. So it's all about TCU and

862
00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:15,639
their guards and their ability to pressure Ohio State on

863
00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:19,280
the perimeter. But if they can't do that, Ohio State

864
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,280
might be in business. So it's gonna be an interesting game.

865
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,280
Not when I have met yet, but I do have

866
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,920
a lean toward TCU. Rob. Do you know what game

867
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,639
you want to go to for the parlay or do

868
00:46:28,679 --> 00:46:31,599
you want to do the requested game first and then

869
00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:32,360
go to your leg.

870
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: It's up to you.

871
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: Requested game is going to be dating Bradley.

872
00:46:36,519 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that won't be my parlay legs, So let

873
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,440
me just go ahead and give the parlay leg. Now,

874
00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:48,719
which two opportunities same game? I think I'm going to

875
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,719
include the dog here because I like the Dog. I

876
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,119
won't exclude them, but I'm gonna play Sam Houston, New

877
00:46:54,159 --> 00:46:57,440
Mexico over the number of one sixty four and a half.

878
00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:02,119
Sam Houston I talked a lot down the stretch and

879
00:47:02,159 --> 00:47:04,840
in their conference tournament, actually had a ticket on them

880
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,599
to win that CUSA tournament and they just quite couldn't

881
00:47:08,599 --> 00:47:11,239
get past Kennesaw State and exited I think in a

882
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,760
semi final round but Sam Samus or ectually Sam Houston State.

883
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,159
I've said it once, I've said it twice. They've got

884
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:23,280
multiple guys that can get you buckets when necessary. It's

885
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,760
just an all out assault on offense from this team.

886
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,079
There is no resistance defensively, which brings in the mindset

887
00:47:31,159 --> 00:47:34,239
of why don't you just play New Mexico in the pit?

888
00:47:34,519 --> 00:47:37,639
Their team total over eighty eight and a half. It

889
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:39,559
seems like a team that can get to eighty nine

890
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:42,000
against Sam Houston State. And I wouldn't talk anybody off

891
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:44,159
of that. The only reason why I'm going full game

892
00:47:44,159 --> 00:47:46,679
here is I don't want to discount Sam Houston's ability

893
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:51,039
to play offense. The job Eric Olin did here one year,

894
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:56,280
first year at New Mexico with really a conglomeration of

895
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,079
talent that had to be put together on the fly,

896
00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:03,159
very very good. The one problem you might have with

897
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,880
New Mexico, Adam, is I feel like they thought they

898
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,199
could win the Mountain West this year. Yeah, and they didn't.

899
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,320
Is this the consolation prize to them? I don't think

900
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,760
it's a consolation prize to Sam Houston State. Very close

901
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,760
geographically here, I think Sam Houston State will take this

902
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,480
as more of a test can we beat these guys

903
00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:25,280
in this venue? So I think you get full effort

904
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,760
out of them. But again, the pit is just a

905
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,559
place that even if your team comes in somewhat flat,

906
00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:36,239
the electricity of that place probably gets you going. I

907
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,039
happen to think New Mexico is going to come to

908
00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:41,239
play anyway. When you talked about this yesterday, I'll say

909
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,760
it one more time, and maybe we'll say it again

910
00:48:44,679 --> 00:48:46,920
throughout the next couple of days. Is that with this

911
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,440
tournament now being played on the same weekend as the

912
00:48:49,559 --> 00:48:54,519
NCAA Championship, it's a chance for four of two of

913
00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:56,920
these teams. I guess the first one is in Hinkle,

914
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,360
the semifinals in Hinkle, but the championship in Gamebridge. There's

915
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:01,920
a chance if you get to the championship here to

916
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,079
get a ton of eyeballs on you, and I think

917
00:49:04,119 --> 00:49:07,760
teams looking for somewhat of respect want to get there.

918
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,119
I think New Mexico is one of those teams. And again,

919
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,920
old in first year head coach, I really think trying

920
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,760
to lay something down here is a foundation for this team.

921
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,800
So I could see New Mexico playing hard. This game's

922
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,719
going to get over in my mind over one sixty

923
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,239
four and a half. Yesterday we had a lot of

924
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,039
nit unders. Generally that's not the case today. We may

925
00:49:27,079 --> 00:49:29,719
have the overs come back. So give me Sam Houston

926
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,639
New Mexico State full game total over one sixty four

927
00:49:33,679 --> 00:49:36,519
and a half. Because I want to include Sam Houston's offense.

928
00:49:38,639 --> 00:49:41,079
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna dispute any of that, and I'm gonna

929
00:49:41,079 --> 00:49:43,320
move along because we've got two games that were requested.

930
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,440
We got about ten minutes to go, so we'll try

931
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,159
to hit both of these. We've got two legs of

932
00:49:47,199 --> 00:49:49,719
the parlay locked in. Who knows, maybe if Rob and

933
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,039
I agree on one of these final two games, we'll

934
00:49:52,039 --> 00:49:54,519
make it a three teamer. Saw someone in the chat

935
00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:56,400
day and even though they're the higher seed, is not

936
00:49:56,519 --> 00:49:59,440
the home team tonight. Of course, the ud arena being

937
00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:03,840
used for or NCAA tournament games, so Dayton, despite being

938
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,679
the higher seed, is on the road at Bradley tonight,

939
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:10,360
and that the Mad Max says he's five and one

940
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:13,679
last six. Props to Mad Max. That's great, love to

941
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,519
hear it, he said. Bradley Forrest's turnovers, Dayton turns it

942
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:19,800
over seventeen point five percent of their possessions. Yeah, they've

943
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,079
definitely been turnover prone this year. It's it's part of

944
00:50:23,079 --> 00:50:25,840
the reason why Dayton was not a real contender in

945
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,280
that league despite getting to the getting to their conference

946
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,880
championship game. Bradley's a great three point shooting team. But

947
00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:35,960
here's the thing with Bradley, this was the team last

948
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,440
year that had a couple of guys opt out of

949
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,559
this tournament. Then they felt guilty and they played, and

950
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:45,559
then the one dude who was opting out because he

951
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:48,000
wanted to get ready to go play pro somewhere got hurt.

952
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,000
And so you have to want then. And this is

953
00:50:50,039 --> 00:50:52,880
the same thing as George Mason rob that yesterday where

954
00:50:53,159 --> 00:50:55,519
they kind of made a they won a few games, right.

955
00:50:55,559 --> 00:50:57,760
I think Bradley made it to the Elite eight of

956
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,440
this tournament last year, ended up losing, I want to say,

957
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,000
to Chattanooga in the Elite eight to this tournament last year.

958
00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:08,599
Coming into this season, I think they had aspirations for

959
00:51:08,639 --> 00:51:10,880
the NCAA Tournament and now they're back in the NIT.

960
00:51:11,159 --> 00:51:16,280
So Dayton always seems to take the NIT serious for

961
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,480
the most part. Like I'm going like Dayton was in

962
00:51:18,519 --> 00:51:21,599
it last year. Now they lost in similar fashion. I

963
00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:23,280
think they ended up having to go on the road

964
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,079
and lost in like the second round last year. But

965
00:51:27,039 --> 00:51:30,000
I kind of think Anthony Grant's gonna play everyone, so

966
00:51:30,119 --> 00:51:34,000
this one's tricky. But I leaned if Dayton shows up

967
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,800
with their full complement of players, I think they win

968
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,400
this game. But that's what I'll be trying to figure

969
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,639
out throughout the course of the day. Do you have

970
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:43,679
anything here for mad Max, Rob Dayton and Bradley?

971
00:51:44,039 --> 00:51:48,079
Speaker 2: The only thing I worry about is dayton disappointment. They

972
00:51:48,159 --> 00:51:52,159
played so well down this stretch. Happened like two different teams, honestly,

973
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,880
but they've now played ten consecutive games where their opponent

974
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,679
hasn't touched seventy, and it's more like an Anthony Grant

975
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:04,599
team Defense, defense, defense, ten consecutive games holding teams to

976
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:09,360
under seventy, and Bradley's not necessarily a prolific offense. They've

977
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,519
had games that have gone over the total, games that

978
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:15,159
were played high scoring against high scoring teams in their

979
00:52:15,159 --> 00:52:20,480
conference Belmont, Murray State, etc. But man, if Dayton comes

980
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,239
to play here, if they're not thoroughly disappointed off of

981
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,320
losing that championship game, A couple of days ago to VCU,

982
00:52:28,519 --> 00:52:31,599
then I would be playing Bradley. Team total under this

983
00:52:31,639 --> 00:52:34,360
thing is seventy and a half, and nobody's hit that

984
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,239
number in ten straight games against Dayton, so they've obviously

985
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,480
slowed themselves down a little bit more toward Dayton tendencies,

986
00:52:42,599 --> 00:52:46,280
or at least Dayton perception over the last decade, or

987
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,320
at least as long as Anthony Griant has been there,

988
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,880
and Bradley's not necessarily going to crank up the pace.

989
00:52:51,559 --> 00:52:55,280
So I don't know. My million here would be definitely

990
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,000
Bradley team total under seventy and a half home or

991
00:52:58,039 --> 00:53:01,079
not home. Dayton's been terrific on defense, and if they

992
00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:03,920
clamped down, they can certainly squash this team and keep

993
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,159
them under seventy and a half.

994
00:53:06,639 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: Bradley is another one of these teams that hasn't played

995
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,199
since the first weekend of conference tournament play. Their last

996
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,400
game was also against Northern Iowa on the seventh, So

997
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,159
Northern Iowa took out Illinois State on Friday, they took

998
00:53:19,199 --> 00:53:22,000
out Bradley on Saturday, and so you're looking at an

999
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:27,599
eleven day layoff a team that kind of needed their

1000
00:53:27,639 --> 00:53:29,159
fan base to get on them a little bit to

1001
00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:31,440
take this tournament seriously last year, And I just have

1002
00:53:31,519 --> 00:53:34,880
to wonder, if you know, if they didn't want to

1003
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:39,280
take it seriously last year, got sort of like gilted

1004
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,719
into it by their fans calling them out for basically

1005
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:48,320
opting out. I don't know, I wonder how badly Bradley

1006
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,960
wants this one this year. But yeah, you make a

1007
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,440
really good point Dayton. Whether Dayton wasn't at they weren't

1008
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,239
at large, but like by Sunday, they had to feel

1009
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,199
like they could. They were, They had to feel like

1010
00:54:01,199 --> 00:54:02,920
they could get to the NCAA tournament. They were a

1011
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,639
what were they a three point underdog to a VCU

1012
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,880
in the final, So.

1013
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,599
Speaker 2: That said that the A ten might take three. If

1014
00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:15,199
they won, the A ten probably would have gotten three. VC,

1015
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,199
you would have made it. Saint Louis was gonna make it.

1016
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,159
Speaker 1: So yeah, this is a really interesting game. And of

1017
00:54:22,199 --> 00:54:24,360
course that's one where you got to make sure if

1018
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,840
you're looking at the bracket, it's gonna look like Dayton

1019
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,679
his home. They are not. They are on the road

1020
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,320
in brat In in uh Peoria, Illinois tonight for that game.

1021
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,079
So all right, let's let's finish off the show. Mansie

1022
00:54:37,159 --> 00:54:40,480
is back in the chat. Mansey says, greetings, fellas. Thoughts

1023
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,039
on Colorado State, Saint Joe's. He likes Colorado State with

1024
00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:47,119
the elevation and Saint Jose top guards played, you know,

1025
00:54:47,199 --> 00:54:50,360
tend to play thirty plus minutes. So he's looking at

1026
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:55,000
Colorado State tonight, Robin Fort Collins, Moby Arena. This is

1027
00:54:55,039 --> 00:54:58,760
the Degenerate Special, eleven PM Eastern Tip. How are you

1028
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,440
seeing this one? Saint Joe Colorado State out in Fort

1029
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:03,119
Collins tonight.

1030
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:09,280
Speaker 2: Saint Joe's I think exceeded expectations. At remember back at

1031
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,159
the beginning of the year where they were kind of

1032
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:16,159
like a personnel mess, and somehow it became additioned by

1033
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,639
subtraction with Saint Joe's. Like at the one point where

1034
00:55:19,639 --> 00:55:22,079
they were having personnel issues, it didn't look like Saint

1035
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:24,480
Jose was going to have a really good season, but

1036
00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:27,320
it turned out to be a very good season. And

1037
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:32,119
the question with Saint Jose, I think becomes are they

1038
00:55:32,159 --> 00:55:37,239
a product of their conference or did they really get

1039
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,760
better under Steve Donahue, who's a pretty good head coach.

1040
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,840
But they played well, I'm just counting off here. Seven

1041
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:48,079
and one straight up down the stretch. The opposition again

1042
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,679
not great, but it was. There was a win against

1043
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,880
George Mason, and there are a pair of wins against

1044
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,920
Davids And we saw Davidson last night played pretty well

1045
00:55:56,039 --> 00:55:59,920
in still Water. But I would really tend to side

1046
00:56:00,039 --> 00:56:04,719
with Colorado State here, far more difficult conference. I won't

1047
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,679
do the pronunciation because I know the pronunciation here. You

1048
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,039
have this one down Ali Farouche Manesher. However, you say

1049
00:56:13,159 --> 00:56:13,559
I know.

1050
00:56:13,679 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: Northern Iowa legend Rob Ali Faro March ask Kansas about him?

1051
00:56:19,639 --> 00:56:22,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, he hit a big shot. I just could

1052
00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:25,199
never get his name right. But I feel like he

1053
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,599
brought Colorado State along real well too. Getting back to

1054
00:56:27,679 --> 00:56:31,360
seriousness here and Colorado State, I think can find holes

1055
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,000
in the Saint Joe's defense in this game. He definitely

1056
00:56:35,079 --> 00:56:40,480
has Colorado State going slow, slower, slowest. That could bother

1057
00:56:40,599 --> 00:56:44,440
Saint Joe's. I tend to believe that Saint Joe's from

1058
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,440
what we saw down the stretch when they got better,

1059
00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:50,159
would like to tune it up a little bit. But

1060
00:56:51,159 --> 00:56:54,480
I think altitude was brought up in the comment right there.

1061
00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:56,800
Altitude could be an issue for Saint Joe. You come

1062
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,000
from Philly. You go up there, you don't really know

1063
00:56:59,039 --> 00:57:01,199
what it's like. I don't though that Saint Jose plays

1064
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:05,760
a ton of non conference up in the uh high

1065
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,199
high altitude of Colorado. So for me, I think it

1066
00:57:08,199 --> 00:57:12,480
would be Colorado State. Credit to Saint joseen what they did, Adam,

1067
00:57:12,519 --> 00:57:14,760
and I would love to say take points here, but

1068
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,400
I think it's a tough situation, tough venue, and I

1069
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,760
think Colorado State just comes from better stock where conference

1070
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:22,360
is concerned.

1071
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:29,199
Speaker 1: Listen, I again, it's all about, you know, confirming lineups

1072
00:57:29,239 --> 00:57:31,639
and stuff like that. I if Colorado State takes this

1073
00:57:31,719 --> 00:57:34,639
tournament seriously, I think they could be around for a while,

1074
00:57:35,199 --> 00:57:37,199
especially if they draw a couple of home games. Like

1075
00:57:37,679 --> 00:57:40,400
you know that, that's a building I've been to before,

1076
00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:43,719
Moby Arena. I've also been one time when it wasn't

1077
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,119
like sold out, And even when that place is half full,

1078
00:57:48,159 --> 00:57:50,920
it's it's still a very good atmosphere. The way it's

1079
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,920
built is like there's one side that goes way way up,

1080
00:57:55,199 --> 00:57:57,480
so like if they only have four thousand, it's still

1081
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,199
it still feels very full because like the last couple

1082
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,880
thousand seats, it's very weird. It's like they're all on

1083
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,719
one side and they like shoot up the one side.

1084
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,800
So that's a place where like four or five thousand.

1085
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,480
It may it may only have like half attendance, but

1086
00:58:13,559 --> 00:58:17,159
it's still gonna feel like a like a solid atmosphere. Obviously,

1087
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,039
something that doesn't matter how many people show up. Altitude

1088
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:22,960
is still altitude, and Saint Joe's doesn't take doesn't make

1089
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,960
this trip very often, you know, out to the out

1090
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,679
to the Rocky Mountains. Ali for Rokmanesh you mentioned first

1091
00:58:29,719 --> 00:58:32,079
year head coach, But like a lot of people when

1092
00:58:32,159 --> 00:58:35,159
Nico Menven took the Minnesota job were like, oh, like,

1093
00:58:35,199 --> 00:58:38,599
Colorado State's gonna be fine because Rokmanesh was like the

1094
00:58:38,679 --> 00:58:41,159
mastermind behind a lot of what they were doing offensively.

1095
00:58:41,719 --> 00:58:45,159
And Colorado State's still been pretty solid offensively, aside from

1096
00:58:45,239 --> 00:58:47,519
that stretch where they had some injuries and they just

1097
00:58:47,559 --> 00:58:49,599
straight up could not buy a shot. There was like

1098
00:58:49,639 --> 00:58:52,360
a five or six game stretch in Mountain West play

1099
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,880
where they couldn't make anything. But you go back to

1100
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,960
earlier in the year and they were as efficient of

1101
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,320
an offensive team as you could find through the first

1102
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,760
couple of months of this season. So yeah, the opener

1103
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,599
was five and a half, it's got bet up. If

1104
00:59:04,679 --> 00:59:06,400
it goes back to five and a half, I think

1105
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,000
there might be enough value to take a stab with

1106
00:59:09,039 --> 00:59:12,360
Colorado State there. That's this feels like a game that

1107
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:18,119
they probably find a way to win. All right, Rob,

1108
00:59:18,199 --> 00:59:20,920
let's let's you know what. Let's uh, we got all March.

1109
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,199
We still have plenty of time to make a run

1110
00:59:24,239 --> 00:59:26,239
with the parlays, so let's keep it two team or

1111
00:59:26,239 --> 00:59:29,320
today since we went oh and two yesterday, we got

1112
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,320
a walk before we can run here. Maybe we'll maybe

1113
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,440
we'll run it back with an NCAA tournament three team

1114
00:59:34,519 --> 00:59:39,159
or tomorrow. Today's parlay two team parlay for me, Miami

1115
00:59:39,199 --> 00:59:42,519
Ohio plus seven. That's a client play for me. I

1116
00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:44,440
love them tonight. I think they're gonna win the game.

1117
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,400
This is one time where I'm usually like that, you know,

1118
00:59:47,519 --> 00:59:49,599
just take the seven points. I think you could actually

1119
00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:51,360
sprinkle a little bit on the money line there. I

1120
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,920
really like the RedHawks. And then Rob Bino's going with

1121
00:59:54,039 --> 00:59:58,280
Sam Houston State New Mexico out in the Pit in Albuquerque,

1122
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,480
one of my favorite buildings I've ever been to. Rob.

1123
01:00:00,719 --> 01:00:04,199
That place is awesome. Over one sixty four and a half.

1124
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,280
So that's your two teamer today. Miami, Ohio plus seven

1125
01:00:07,639 --> 01:00:10,400
Sam Houston, New Mexico over won sixty four and a half.

1126
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,559
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1128
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1129
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:22,679
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