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Speaker 2: We are live at Dodgers Stadium. After the Rays come
Speaker 2: from behind and beat the Dodgers tonight in ten innings,
Speaker 2: nine to eight the final score. Welcome the Dodger Talk
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Speaker 2: We will hear from Freddie Freeman. He did speak about
Speaker 2: the Dodgers designating for assignment Jason Hayward. Also, we will
Speaker 2: let you know about a huge step Otani took today
Speaker 2: in his recovery from his second elbow surgery. Ho hum,
Speaker 2: just another day for a guy that went forty to
Speaker 2: forty last night in Grand Fast. So we'll let you
Speaker 2: know what O'tani was doing before today's game as far
Speaker 2: as the pitching side of things, and O'tani tonight tried
Speaker 2: to come to the rescue again, hitting his fourth home
Speaker 2: run in the last seven games, a go ahead two
Speaker 2: run home run for the Dodgers to give them a
Speaker 2: six to five lead in the fifth inning. But unfortunately
Speaker 2: for the Dodgers, they're two best relievers, Michael Kopek and
Speaker 2: Evan Phillips, could not protect a two run lead with
Speaker 2: six outs to get. Kopek gave up a run in
Speaker 2: the eighth inning after loading the bases, and then Evan
Speaker 2: Phillips gave up a game tying home run to one
Speaker 2: of the best unknown players in baseball, Junior Cavin Naro.
Speaker 2: He's a blue chip player. He could play third base,
Speaker 2: he could play shortstop. My understanding is the Rays were
Speaker 2: even willing to trade camon Naro to the Angels for
Speaker 2: sho he O'tani the last couple of years, and he
Speaker 2: was three for five tonight with the game tying home runs.
Speaker 2: So the two best relievers, Kopek and Phillips, could not
Speaker 2: protect a two run lead and the Dodgers had to
Speaker 2: go to extras. That's where Joe Kelly, who is a
Speaker 2: flip of the coin these days, because let's face it,
Speaker 2: Joe Kelly was talking about retirement last year if the
Speaker 2: Dodgers won the World Series. If that's not a red
Speaker 2: flag to everybody involved that maybe his arms not feeling
Speaker 2: the greatest. I don't know what is. But Joe Kelly,
Speaker 2: as we know, has a lot of guts, and he
Speaker 2: has a lot of testicular fortitude, and he's got a
Speaker 2: lot of edge and toughness and every other adjective you
Speaker 2: can use to describe him. He is going to go
Speaker 2: out there no matter if he's feeling great or really
Speaker 2: not feeling great at all. And my tail sign and
Speaker 2: something for you to look for moving forward is if
Speaker 2: Joe Kelly is feeling good, he's throwing his curveball. If
Speaker 2: he's not feeling good, he's not throwing it that much.
Speaker 2: And tonight we didn't see it that much, which told
Speaker 2: me he didn't have feel for that curveball. So that
Speaker 2: was an issue for me in the tenth inning, and
Speaker 2: obviously a gut punch to give up a go ahead
Speaker 2: to run home run like that in the tenth inning. Also,
Speaker 2: we can't forget that Clayton Kershaw was not sharp in
Speaker 2: the first inning. He put the Dodgers in a four
Speaker 2: to nothing hole in the first inning. And also Will
Speaker 2: Smith did not catch a ball that he should have
Speaker 2: caught that was ruled a wild pitch in that first
Speaker 2: inning that put or advanced runners from ninety feet to
Speaker 2: second and third. So it was a rough first inning
Speaker 2: for Kershaw and will Smith, and the Rays had a
Speaker 2: four to nothing lead after one inning. Let's head downstairs
Speaker 2: right now to hear from Clayton Kershaw on sports net LA.
Speaker 3: Yeah, first inning, he knows, can't happen, you know, get
Speaker 3: our team, you know, behind that much that early is
Speaker 3: tough to come back from. But when you're on a
Speaker 3: great team like we are, you know, you just try
Speaker 3: and try and make it as best you can. And
Speaker 3: I mean our team showed what they can do tonight.
Speaker 3: You know, they came back that they battled and you know,
Speaker 3: can't say enough good things about, you know, offensively what
Speaker 3: these guys did. And you know, Bradley's a really good
Speaker 3: picture on the other side, so for them to put
Speaker 3: up that many runs against him is impressive.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Know, first thing was bad and kind of settled in
Speaker 3: there in a little bit, and you know that fifth
Speaker 3: inning run really bothered me. There after we got those
Speaker 3: runs back. So just a lot of things that I
Speaker 3: need to execute better on for sure.
Speaker 5: What was important for the other person, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It just made some bad pictures, you think, the spots
Speaker 3: and as opposed to maybe stuff in the first it's
Speaker 3: kind of one and the same. Yeah, I wish you.
Speaker 1: Just tribed just the defensive performance tonight, because it did
Speaker 1: seem like guys were coming out pretty clutch in some situations.
Speaker 1: Just to limit the damage here and there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I may he made some great plays, you know,
Speaker 3: will thrown out runners, you know, all the way around. Yeah,
Speaker 3: just I think on the you know, getting our guys
Speaker 3: healthy on the position player side, it's uh, it's pretty impressive.
Speaker 3: And then you add you know what show he's been doing.
Speaker 3: It's been it's been pretty amazing. So you know, myself
Speaker 3: and especially just needs to pick it up and give
Speaker 3: our team a little bit more of a chance and
Speaker 3: we'll we'll win a lot of games.
Speaker 6: After our first thing like that.
Speaker 7: How do you get.
Speaker 3: Back on track, I mean, you don't really have another option,
Speaker 3: you know, you just keep going. You just try to
Speaker 3: make the next pitch, keep trying to make the next
Speaker 3: pitch over and over again. And you know, I worked
Speaker 3: there for a little bit, but obviously got to be
Speaker 3: better in the first to start suh, you know, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Home on there, Wi the way Nagle's the strollers.
Speaker 1: What a big game coming out against big spots.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, show has been. You can't say enough.
Speaker 3: I don't know what else you can say. You know,
Speaker 3: it's just every night there's something special that he does,
Speaker 3: and all the while, you know, rehav't and trying to
Speaker 3: get ready to pitch. So it's it's pretty remarkable, you know.
Speaker 3: I think you see a day in day out, you
Speaker 3: probably take it for granted a little bit, but it's
Speaker 3: a pretty special season and you know he's he's the
Speaker 3: best for reason.
Speaker 5: You know, curs innings like that can't happen.
Speaker 8: When they do, does it feel like a little bit
Speaker 8: of a setback?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean it's not great, but what else
Speaker 3: are you gonna do? Just gotta keep pitching, all.
Speaker 2: Right, That's Clayton Kershaw on sports Net LA. And that's
Speaker 2: what he kept doing even after that four run first inning.
Speaker 2: A lot of other pitchers would a lot that would
Speaker 2: have let this game get away from them, but Kershaw
Speaker 2: held the line. He only gave up one more run
Speaker 2: and that was in his final inning of work in
Speaker 2: the fifth inning. But certainly he labored in that first inning,
Speaker 2: throwing thirty two pitches, and the Rays scored four runs
Speaker 2: off of Kershaw, off of Will Smith, ta Oscar Hernandez
Speaker 2: bobbled the ball in left field. Those things allow runners
Speaker 2: to move up and for four runs to be scored.
Speaker 2: But certainly Kershaw, as he admitted right there, he's got
Speaker 2: to be better, and certainly he was better from the
Speaker 2: second inning on eight six, six, nine, eight seven two
Speaker 2: five seventy is the phone number. Dodgers fall to the
Speaker 2: race tonight, nine to eight in ten innings. Let's go
Speaker 2: out to Ari in Guardina. You're on Dodger Talk. How
Speaker 2: you doing?
Speaker 9: Ari?
Speaker 5: Not great?
Speaker 2: Oh, you're not doing good. Dodgers just had a five
Speaker 2: game winning streak, had one eleven out of their last fourteen.
Speaker 2: They lose tonight and you're doing horrible.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, thats great because this loss is as bad
Speaker 10: as that one in seventeen stretching twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: Oh stop, no, it's not.
Speaker 10: I know, I know, I know, I know I'm exaggerating,
Speaker 10: but like this is pretty bad. Like Dave Roberts, why
Speaker 10: why did he put in both Evan Phillips and.
Speaker 5: Joe Kelly over anyone else? Especially like, Okay, this.
Speaker 10: Is I have a question for you.
Speaker 5: Was Cobec available tonight?
Speaker 2: He pitched in the eighth inning and he gave up
Speaker 2: a run and he did not look that great back
Speaker 2: to back night?
Speaker 10: Right, right?
Speaker 5: Right? I forgot, I completely forgot.
Speaker 2: Wait, so hold on one second. You're ready, you're ready,
Speaker 2: You're ready to rip Dave Roberts, and yet you don't
Speaker 2: even know what happened in the game. You're already second
Speaker 2: guessing Dave Roberts and you don't even know who came
Speaker 2: into the game. That ain't right. I'm sorry, that ain't right.
Speaker 2: Thank you for the phone call. Yeah, if you're going
Speaker 2: to call in and get ready to second guest the
Speaker 2: manager and moves, you better know who's in the game.
Speaker 2: And I know, you know people want to always pick
Speaker 2: apart what he does. But come on, Arian Gardena, you
Speaker 2: got to be better than that. Let's go out to
Speaker 2: Ken and Newport Beach. You're on Dodger Talk. How you
Speaker 2: doing Ken?
Speaker 9: Hey?
Speaker 5: Hi, theer David.
Speaker 9: So there's a couple of things I'm confused about Kelly.
Speaker 9: In his last seven times, he's pitched as an eight
Speaker 9: fifty seven. Now, unless Dave is not even looking at statistics,
Speaker 9: it makes no sense. To bring him in there. You
Speaker 9: had Vessia, you have a few other people in the pen.
Speaker 9: Why bring a guy in who's the single worst pitcher
Speaker 9: that you have e r a Wise on the roster.
Speaker 9: It made no sense. Another thing that's.
Speaker 5: It's kind of a far out.
Speaker 9: Thing that bothers me. Heywood was a decent pinch hitter
Speaker 9: and they dumped them they needed. There were two times
Speaker 9: when he could have pinch hit, like the one guy
Speaker 9: this lineup.
Speaker 2: Now, look at this lineup. Now, is he pinch hitting
Speaker 2: for Otani? Is he pinchating for Bets? Is he pinch
Speaker 2: hitting for ta Oscar Hernandez? Is he pinch hitting for
Speaker 2: Will Smith?
Speaker 5: Fielder?
Speaker 9: Who the guy that's in one seventy seven right now? Oh?
Speaker 2: When he was in the game there, Well, you had
Speaker 2: Kevin Kiermeyer. You could have used Kevin Kiermyer to pinch it.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 9: Well, I'm not a big Hayward fan, but I think
Speaker 9: that in a pinchhit important position, he's done pretty good
Speaker 9: this year. So my last concern is Will Smith. Not
Speaker 9: only is he hit not hitting, but he's missing a
Speaker 9: lot of balls. There's five or six that were questionable
Speaker 9: that he normally seems like he would have gotten in
Speaker 9: front of.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the one thing we agree on out of
Speaker 2: your whole phone call tonight, Ken, That's the one thing
Speaker 2: we agree on. There is big concern when it comes
Speaker 2: to Will Smith, And honestly, the bat's been slow since
Speaker 2: the month of May. And if you look at his
Speaker 2: numbers since the beginning of June, he's a two to
Speaker 2: oh one hitter since June first. And you want to
Speaker 2: talk about walks and him getting on He's a three
Speaker 2: h five on bass clip since June first, and his
Speaker 2: ops since June first is six sixty two. So I'm
Speaker 2: with you. He's not chasing pitches outside of the stre zone.
Speaker 2: He's getting pitches in the strike zone and he's missing them.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if he's worn down or if
Speaker 2: there is something physical going on with him, but he
Speaker 2: has I've asked him numerous times that there is something.
Speaker 2: He has not said that there is anything specific. So
Speaker 2: if he's going to say he's fine physically, Uh, there's
Speaker 2: not much I could do to defend in that department.
Speaker 9: Okay, So Barnes is hurt. Who would come in and
Speaker 9: replace Smith right now?
Speaker 2: Hunter Fiducca, who they called up when they put Barnes
Speaker 2: on the.
Speaker 9: Il all right, I wasn't even sure if they picked
Speaker 9: him up. All right, Well, hey, I can't leave them all,
Speaker 9: but this one kind of made me angry to see
Speaker 9: a guide. A matter of fact, I wrote it down
Speaker 9: when they bring me Kelly in, I said, this is wrong.
Speaker 9: You cannot bring this guy in with his last seven
Speaker 9: games numbers.
Speaker 2: Well, he's been good as last two before tonight.
Speaker 9: Well, seven games, eight fifty seven all I got for you.
Speaker 2: All right, Ken, thanks for the phone call. Eight six
Speaker 2: six nine eight seven two five seventy is the phone number. Look,
Speaker 2: if Joe Kelly's active, Dave Roberts should be able to
Speaker 2: use him. You can't use the same relievers over and
Speaker 2: over again. Last night Ryan Brazier pitched multiple innings. Alex
Speaker 2: VESSI has been used a ton this year. He was
Speaker 2: used in his last time he pitched was on Wednesday.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's been a few days. But there's obviously
Speaker 2: a little bit more that we don't know if Dave
Speaker 2: Roberts is not using him in that spot. So you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of times when it comes to bullpen usage
Speaker 2: and why a guy's not being used or not. Uh,
Speaker 2: the obvious answer. I'm sure Dave Roberts knows it, but
Speaker 2: sometimes there's underlying issues as far as what he can
Speaker 2: or can't do in that spot. But the facts are.
Speaker 2: You want to point the finger at Joe Kelly, Yes,
Speaker 2: he gave up a go ahead two run home running
Speaker 2: the tenth inning, But everybody's in love with Michael Kopek,
Speaker 2: and he wasn't himself on the second night of a
Speaker 2: back to back, and when he was in Saint Louis,
Speaker 2: same thing, back to back, velocity down. So I look
Speaker 2: at Dave Roberts pushing the right buttons. But unfortunately tonight
Speaker 2: relievers are the most vulerable part of your team, and
Speaker 2: unfortunately tonight Michael Kopek and Evan Phillips couldn't get the
Speaker 2: job done. Let's go out to Monrovia. Frank, you're on
Speaker 2: Dodger Talk. How you doing, Frank?
Speaker 7: Hey, Dave, you know, thanks for taking my call quickly.
Speaker 7: You know, just two things, you know, when Kelly went
Speaker 7: out there in the tenth you can you know, just
Speaker 7: those first couple of pitches, you could tell there was
Speaker 7: something off. You know, he usually comes out with a
Speaker 7: bit more.
Speaker 5: I mean it takes a little bit.
Speaker 7: More of a risk in the beginning, but there was
Speaker 7: just something about him today. It was noticeable right away,
Speaker 7: even when we were able to get a few of
Speaker 7: those warm up pitches, just there was just something in
Speaker 7: his movement. Second thing is that again, you know, taking
Speaker 7: five of six lately is not something to scoff at.
Speaker 7: But when we get the stakes this upcoming Labor Day weekend,
Speaker 7: it's gonna be tough because the middle of their lineup
Speaker 7: is no joke these days.
Speaker 2: And then last question for me, Jerrel's back. That's the
Speaker 2: scariest part for the Dodgers and every other team in baseball.
Speaker 2: He is back, He is on fire, and it's unfortunate
Speaker 2: the Dodgers are not going to have They're two big
Speaker 2: signings of the offseason in trades, Tyler Glass now and
Speaker 2: Yoshiyama Moto available for what could be the biggest four
Speaker 2: game series in September to decide who wins the division.
Speaker 7: Exactly, Dave, last big question for.
Speaker 5: You, You know.
Speaker 7: Seeing kirsh on the mound, you know it made me nostalgic.
Speaker 7: Will we ever, you know, based on the metrics, will
Speaker 7: we ever see another pitcher in the Dodge organization with
Speaker 7: more than one hundred complete games.
Speaker 2: I would say I would bet the under on that
Speaker 2: the way teams are handling pictures, there might be a
Speaker 2: pendulum swing as more arm injuries occur, and maybe they
Speaker 2: try to convince pictures not only in college but in
Speaker 2: high school, to throttle down and not try to make
Speaker 2: their perfect pitch to last longer in games. But yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, Andy McCullough wrote a great biography on Kershaw
Speaker 2: called the Last of his Kind, and I feel like
Speaker 2: that's fitting in more ways than one, including that.
Speaker 7: You know what, Dave, I just finished it a couple
Speaker 7: of weeks ago. I thank you for Pascale long to
Speaker 7: me and my dad, and that nostalgia there for seeing
Speaker 7: a complete game win, that many complete game winners is
Speaker 7: something I'll cherish.
Speaker 5: You know, watching the game in the future.
Speaker 2: All Right, Frank, thanks a lot for the phone call,
Speaker 2: appreciate it. And look, there may not be another three
Speaker 2: hundred game winner. Look, pitchers don't stay in the game
Speaker 2: long enough, and sometimes when they do stay in long enough,
Speaker 2: third time through the order, they're not allowed to be
Speaker 2: in there to try to get the win. And I
Speaker 2: just harken back to guys like Fernando to Kershaw, you
Speaker 2: want the ball in your hand because you feel like
Speaker 2: you have a better chance of winning that game than
Speaker 2: trying to pass the baton to the bullpen. And that's
Speaker 2: no knock on any bullpen. But there's a reason why
Speaker 2: they're relief pitchers and they're not starting pitchers. Eight six
Speaker 2: six nine eighty seven two five seventy is the phone
Speaker 2: number we're gonna take a time out here on Dodger Talk.
Speaker 2: When we continue, more of your phone calls at eight
Speaker 2: sixty six nine eighty seven two five seventy. Also, you'll
Speaker 2: hear from Freddie Freeman and we'll let you know about
Speaker 2: the big step sho hey Otani took today to return
Speaker 2: to the mound next season. Dodgers fall to the Rays
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Speaker 8: Here's Miguel Rojas based He's Epony one out for seventy
Speaker 8: al Rojas torches one left field one and.
Speaker 2: Out of here.
Speaker 8: Well, Rick Monday, we asked for some insurance to Miguel
Speaker 8: Rojas wasted no time against Joe Kunnell, providing so his
Speaker 8: fourth home run of the season. It's now seven five Dodgers.
Speaker 2: The seventh inning belonged to Miguel Roja, se he hit
Speaker 2: his first home run since June, a big insurance run
Speaker 2: at the time for the Dodgers with one out in
Speaker 2: the seventh inning. And also, we all know about the
Speaker 2: great glove instincts baseball field Rojas has and that was
Speaker 2: on fold display in the seventh inning as he was
Speaker 2: able to help the Dodgers get out of a jam
Speaker 2: by throwing behind Brandon Laud to get a big first
Speaker 2: out in that seventh inning. So Miguel Rojas did a
Speaker 2: great job tonight in a lot of different ways, and
Speaker 2: that seventh inning especially was Rojas's. Unfortunately, the Dodgers come
Speaker 2: up short tonight to the Rays nine to eight in
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Speaker 2: Last night on Dodger Talk, it was a big celebration,
Speaker 2: and rightfully so of Shohi Otani, who became the Dodgers'
Speaker 2: first forty forty player. And Rick Monday was bringing this
Speaker 2: up during the game that there has been no one
Speaker 2: that has achieved forty forty in the same night, meaning
Speaker 2: nobody has stolen their forty base and also hit their
Speaker 2: fortieth home run on the same night. But that was
Speaker 2: Otani who became the sixth player in baseball history to
Speaker 2: have a forty forty season, and right now he's on
Speaker 2: pace for a fifty to fifty season. No player in
Speaker 2: baseball history has ever achieved that accomplishment. But right now,
Speaker 2: especially after Otani hitting his forty first home run of
Speaker 2: the year, he is on pace for fifty home runs
Speaker 2: and fifty stolen bases. How many guys also could say,
Speaker 2: you know what, forty forty walk off grand slam in
Speaker 2: the ninth inning, and you know the next day, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna start throwing to come back from my second elbow surgery.
Speaker 2: Not only throw like he has been in extending his
Speaker 2: flat ground catch play, but today was the first day
Speaker 2: we saw show hey Otani throw off the mound in
Speaker 2: the Dodger bullpen. The catcher was standing up, albeit and
Speaker 2: he only threw ten pitches from the mound, but that
Speaker 2: was a huge marker. And Dave Roberts has been saying
Speaker 2: all season long that Otani would be throwing off the
Speaker 2: mound by September, and here we are a weak shy
Speaker 2: of September first, and Otani not shockingly is ahead of schedules.
Speaker 2: So Otani getting ready to be that unicorn next season
Speaker 2: for the Dodgers. He is not going to pitch in
Speaker 2: the playoffs, trust me. The Dodgers have a long term
Speaker 2: investment in Otani. They want him healthy on the mound,
Speaker 2: and Otani wants to be healthy on the mound for
Speaker 2: next year as well. But it is a significant development
Speaker 2: in his rehab to become a pitcher again, a two
Speaker 2: way player with him throwing ten pitches off the mound
Speaker 2: with the catcher standing up today. Eight sixty six nine
Speaker 2: eight seven two five seventy is the phone number Dodgers
Speaker 2: fall to the race tonight in ten innings, nine to eight.
Speaker 2: Also in the excitement Ovotani's grand night last night to
Speaker 2: walk off with a grand with a Grand Slam, we
Speaker 2: never got to the Freddie Freeman reaction to Jason Hayward
Speaker 2: being designated for assignment. Well before today's game, Freddie Freeman
Speaker 2: spoke to a couple of reporters and Fabi and Ardaya
Speaker 2: from the Athletic was one of them.
Speaker 6: Forever how long he's here, he's going to make a
Speaker 6: lasting impact for many mini here beyond when he's done
Speaker 6: with his time here. And I think it's rings true.
Speaker 6: And every single person in this organizations clubhouse is sat.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: That's the impact He's had on so many people, I
Speaker 6: mean lasting impact. And he made a lot of the
Speaker 6: young guys better. And that's that's why I really wanted
Speaker 6: to be here in the first place, because I know
Speaker 6: what kind of impact he's going to have on certain
Speaker 6: people's careers to say before.
Speaker 2: All right, that was Freddy Freeman speaking to reporters before
Speaker 2: today's game. Freddy also added that Hayward really hasn't responded
Speaker 2: to any text messages, because you wouldn't feel great after
Speaker 2: getting fired from your job. But Freddie said he has
Speaker 2: gotten three texts back from Hayward. Obviously a very disappointing
Speaker 2: situation for Freddie and Hayward. They came up together through
Speaker 2: the Braves organization. Freddie was the one that advocated for
Speaker 2: the Dodgers to give Hayward a chance. Last season it
Speaker 2: paid off, but this year it just never came to fruition.
Speaker 2: But as you can see, the Dodgers are not missing
Speaker 2: a beat. They got a lot of veterans in there.
Speaker 2: They've seen a lot in baseball. Even though they love
Speaker 2: Hayward and are disappointed to a certain extent, some more
Speaker 2: than others, obviously, but they all know that they have
Speaker 2: to keep moving forward because they certainly have something special
Speaker 2: in the works. Eight six, six nine, eight seven two
Speaker 2: five seventy is the phone number. Let's go back out
Speaker 2: to the phones. Nate in Glendale. You're on Dodger Talk.
Speaker 2: How you doing, Nate?
Speaker 5: I'm doing good. Dave, how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. I'm a little surprised about the doom
Speaker 2: and gloom after one loss.
Speaker 5: Oh well, I'm sorry, but I'm gonna have to bring
Speaker 5: a little bit more of that. Oh wow, this show tonight.
Speaker 5: I was at the game and things really went down
Speaker 5: hill for me in the eighth inning when we brought
Speaker 5: Coopek out. Yeah, we brought we brought him out as
Speaker 5: our closer when we were in Saint Louis last week
Speaker 5: twice and he got the job done both times. And
Speaker 5: then we brought him back out in the ninth yesterday
Speaker 5: and he had another one, two, three scoreless inning and
Speaker 5: we ended up winning that game, obviously, But then we
Speaker 5: throw him out there in the eighth inning today, and
Speaker 5: it just seems like we did the same thing with
Speaker 5: Hudson when he was in that closer role, where we'd
Speaker 5: be kind of moving, you know, him from the eighth
Speaker 5: to the sixth to the seventh, and he kind of
Speaker 5: got out of his rhythm. And you could kind of
Speaker 5: see that with Copek today. I mean, he was leaving
Speaker 5: pitches over the middle, They were getting hit, the walk,
Speaker 5: runs were scoring, all that, and then.
Speaker 2: And you think it's because he was there in the
Speaker 2: eighth inning, even though Dave Roberts has used him in
Speaker 2: the sixth inning, the seventh inning, the eighth inning, the
Speaker 2: ninth inning. And talking to Copax during the road trip,
Speaker 2: I could find that interview for you. He said he
Speaker 2: has embraced the way the Dodgers deploy their relievers. Now
Speaker 2: I understand, I understand we all believe that Kopek has
Speaker 2: the stuff to be a closer, but Dave Roberts felt
Speaker 2: like those were the most dangerous hitters and he wanted
Speaker 2: Copek to base.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess the bottom of the orders that they
Speaker 5: brought Copek in for that doesn't really seem like high
Speaker 5: leverage to me.
Speaker 2: That's true. That's a good point. You're right. In the
Speaker 2: eighth inning, it was Josh Lowe and Cabierro who doubled
Speaker 2: off of him, and maybe there was a little less adrenaline.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that. And then the tenth inning, I mean,
Speaker 5: we had Daniel Hudson and Alex Vesia available, and you
Speaker 5: can't tell me that Joe Kelly is better than either
Speaker 5: of those guys.
Speaker 2: I don't know what their status was, my book, I mean,
Speaker 2: we both don't know what their status was, whether or
Speaker 2: not they were even available, or if Dave Roberts was
Speaker 2: told to stay away from them.
Speaker 5: Well, in the bottom of the tenth Hudson was getting
Speaker 5: loose before we lost, obviously, so he must have been available,
Speaker 5: and Vessio was getting loose in the seventh or eighth,
Speaker 5: but then he sat back down. So I think both
Speaker 5: guys were available, but obviously neither of them were used.
Speaker 5: And I don't know. I don't think Kelly was a
Speaker 5: better action there.
Speaker 2: I didn't see Hudson warming up because where I'm standing
Speaker 2: in the ninth and tenth innings of games is right
Speaker 2: by the Dodger dugout the near side, and I can't
Speaker 2: see who's warming up. So I appreciate you letting me
Speaker 2: know Hudson was warming up in the tenth thinning. But yeah,
Speaker 2: if he was available, I guess that's not a bad
Speaker 2: play to use Hudson in a tied, tied game in the.
Speaker 5: Tenth Absolutely, thanks for taking my call, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Nate, thank you for the phone call. Yeah, if
Speaker 2: Daniel Hudson's available to warm up in the tenth thinning,
Speaker 2: then yeah, he was available to come into the game.
Speaker 2: But like I said, at some point, you got to
Speaker 2: try to use some other pitchers not named Daniel Hudson
Speaker 2: and Alex Vesia and Evan Phillips, and even to this extent,
Speaker 2: Michael Kopek and Joe Kelly had pitched pretty well the
Speaker 2: last two times out. He obviously just didn't have it tonight,
Speaker 2: and he did throw curveballs tonight. Looking at the breakdown
Speaker 2: of his pitches, he threw six fastballs and five curves
Speaker 2: and that, I guess is a good sign. He just
Speaker 2: made a mistake slider pitch that was the go ahead
Speaker 2: two run home run to Jose Cabiero. And those are
Speaker 2: all fair questions, but nobody asked Dave Roberts about that
Speaker 2: in his postgame press conference, so we don't have the
Speaker 2: answers until tomorrow. I will circle back with Dave Roberts
Speaker 2: to get his thought process on the eighth, ninth, and
Speaker 2: tenth innings of tonight's game for you, and we'll report
Speaker 2: back tomorrow. Eight six six seven, two five seventy is
Speaker 2: the phone number, David and Westlake. You're on Dodger Talk
Speaker 2: with David vasse Hi David VV.
Speaker 4: How are you? Thank you for taking my call. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's a tough one tonight. I got a couple questions
Speaker 4: for you. If Bazooka comes back, and if you can
Speaker 4: give me an update on Bazuka, I appreciate it. If
Speaker 4: he comes back, who is the odd man out in
Speaker 4: the bullpen? Could it be Joe Kelly?
Speaker 11: And very well might be Joe Kelly because I feel
Speaker 11: like there you could pick a lot of different body
Speaker 11: parts on Joe to put him on the il and
Speaker 11: not just lose him out right.
Speaker 4: I agree, and I just he's got to give props
Speaker 4: to Mickey Road tonight. I mean, he made an incredible
Speaker 4: play at shortstop and he hit the ball well, and
Speaker 4: he's such a valuable component to this team. I really
Speaker 4: think he's going to help us a lot in October.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's great to have him at shortstop
Speaker 2: where he belongs, and Mookie betson right field, where he's
Speaker 2: a six time goal glover. So all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: now you have a goal glover at short you got
Speaker 2: a goal glover and right when Kevin kier Myers and
Speaker 2: center you got a Platinum Glove player and center, so
Speaker 2: you're up the middle defense. Your outfield defense is that
Speaker 2: much better. Thanks for the phone call, David, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: And also before we close things out, I do want
Speaker 2: to point out, even though Will Smith has not been
Speaker 2: the same hitter that we're accustomed to seeing, he has
Speaker 2: been a great throwing catcher this year. He has thrown
Speaker 2: out thirty five percent of the runners attempting to steal.
Speaker 2: That's the best in the league. Thirty five percent throwing
Speaker 2: out runners. That's a really good clip. And he had
Speaker 2: another one tonight, So kudos to Will Smith, who has
Speaker 2: a great throwing arm and certainly the pitchers are giving
Speaker 2: him a chance to be able to throw out runners
Speaker 2: at a thirty five percent clip. Now Tomorrow, Gavin Stone,
Speaker 2: who has been I would argue, the most consistent and
Speaker 2: reliable starter the Dodgers have had this season, will be
Speaker 2: on the mound to try to win the series for
Speaker 2: the Dodgers. He's eleven and five this year with an
Speaker 2: ERA of three forty four. He's going up against Shane
Speaker 2: Boss who's one and two with an ERA of three
Speaker 2: forty eight. Marongo Casino. Dodgers on Deck begins at noon
Speaker 2: tomorrow with first pitch at one ten. That'll do it
Speaker 2: for us on Dodger Talk tonight. Thanks to Colin Yee
Speaker 2: back at our Burbank studios, Thanks to Dwayne McDonald out
Speaker 2: here at Dodgers Stadium, and thanks to you for listening.
Speaker 2: In case you missed any of the show, you can
Speaker 2: find it on the iHeartRadio app. That's also where you
Speaker 2: can find our pregame conversation with Ryan Pepio, one of
Speaker 2: three former Dodgers on the Rays, Johnny de Luca, who
Speaker 2: started in center field and had a big two run
Speaker 2: base hit off a Kershawn the first inning. Garrick Clevenger,
Speaker 2: who closed out the tenth inning for Tampa Bay for
Speaker 2: his fourth save of the year. And Ryan Pepio who
Speaker 2: has made nineteen starts for Tampa Bay with a whip
Speaker 2: just to tick over one and an el just over
Speaker 2: three and a half. He's not pitching in this series.
Speaker 2: He's pitching on Monday in Seattle for Tampa Bay. So
Speaker 2: great to see Ryan Pepio and he has still got
Speaker 2: that Butler mullet flowing in South Florida once again. The
Speaker 2: final score tonight from Dodgers Stadium. The Dodgers fall to
Speaker 2: the Rays nine to eight and ten innings. Have a
Speaker 2: great rest of your night. See you