Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back. Yes, the porch
cast is back. That's a good one. Porchcast. I called
it the patio pod. Yeah, I'm gonna because especially soon
I'm not seeing I guess twenty four hours. We got
the twenty eight years later. But all like the reviews
we do for the nighttime usually get to this point.
Now you can see last time I started around this time.
Look at that, you can see a nice tree. Then
we got a good vibe. I'll duck that didn't work
at all. We got a good vibe going on. There's
sometimes like a better vibe there with more trees to
the left. But the problem is there's like cars sometimes
there and who knows so. But yes, I am here
for another impromptu one. The reason it is impromptu. Should
I keep this music going for a little bit. I'll
go out for the links. Makes the links sound better
and the plugs right, even though I'll go for like
a second one. I like this. This is the late
night you know, the late night patio patio patio porch cast.
We'll see up. I'll have to make a poll. I'll
let the discord decide tomorrow. I'll have to decide because yeah,
all the way in the interviews will be on here.
It's just nice. It's a little chillier as you can see.
I get the hoodie on. But I'm doing this as
an imprompt too, because I was looking at the cound
or the next little bit. And usually I like to
take you know, these uh these days off. But I'm
not doing the news and everything like that. But and
I will kill the musicause like I said before, there
you go, oh, I kill it just as a motorcycles
coming back. So hopefully nothing too load. We're getting that
point now. Usually there's not too many cars. That guy's
doing some maintenance. But there's not a single car in sight.
But what I was saying is, oh, yeah, I don't know.
There's a couple podcasts that listen to a podcasts, but
I've been I've at least been around with people that
do podcasts and have the music going. I get to a
certain vibe. I just don't know if I like that.
And I love music. I listen to music all the
time as much as I can on my headphone sky
But there's some of the podcasts I don't mind for
a little bit. But people that DoD whole podcasts of music.
That's a little much there, So let's get rid of
that ban or s bubs discord poll clearly not reliable
since do a leap of one. S Bubs got trash
take there, you know, just like your trash take with
Brian and we'll offspring not have the match the year
last one TLC two not being a five star classic,
you know, I nah nah, I'm happy she wont check
out our discord. The link is down below for that
and everything you need to know. But that is where
it's a The GV hosts, listeners, patrons, other GV hosts,
U a host. We're always about stuff, and I will
say I'll respond to what happened on Weekly Geek because
can told a little bit of the story and I,
you know, I here's the thing with Sabrina Carpenter, lil
n we're gonna talk about Superman. We're talking about a
lot of stuff today. It's very Travis centric. I didn't
put it for the Weekly Geek boys because I don't
think there was too much more me on the bone
for them. But I have some certain perspectives as far
as obviously bigger DC fan and Batman fan and just
a couple of rants. I was like, I don't even
want to do this with anybody else. You know, chat
if it's s Bubs. Maddie said he was gonna be here.
He's like he has a Patreon question for me, but
he's like, oh, when you go live take me in
the discord. I'm like, man, you like s Bub's like
young me. He's up all the fucking time. You know,
he's probably operating. I'm not sure, s Bubs. Let me know.
Do you just sleep in very late or do you
also just don't sleep that much? Because when I was
around your age, I was operating on four hours absolutely
no problem. And I know what time it is right
now currently for you. And other times when I see
you listen to music or playing games like go my
disc it's late for you. But that's fine, and it's
like for everybody. That's why this is the late night
Trials one. I wish I consistently do this because I
love the vibe of the late nights and there has to
be people that you know, get off work, are up
and stuff. But I don't have it consistent. There's nothing
well keep fris consistent because their lives are so fucking busy.
Hence why I'm doing a trust told you now because
I'm gonna get back to all stuff because July, really
I was looking at it. I was like, I don't
know when that's gonna be happening, and I obviously missed
one in May, but coming up it just even the
next little bit, like next week, I'll get deaf stranding.
So any night off I have, it's playing that because
you know, love that universe game and for the review,
and then two weeks later or three weeks later, like
Donkey Kong's out, and then after it's just like a
full weeks and whatnot. I probably there's one week where
it's tough. I love talking Box Office, so I might
try to squeeze it in, but I guess if I'm
on a week, we'll see. But there's there's lots of stuff.
I'm also in the process of editing a lot of
GV tenure stuff. Obviously people we talked about on podcast,
but there is an official I should have pin that
post on geek first, Facebook, I should post the Patreon
two in case you guys don't know about it. But
just everything we're doing for the next month and a
half Gvday, etc. And we got lots of coals in
the fire. Planning has been a complete pain in the
ass because everyone's schedule is very busy with just everything.
Because it's just I guess we were dumb to start
the podcast in August, not knowing in the future that
all the busy movies would be happening then and stuff.
But you know, that's what we do, so we'll figure
it out. It's a nice little break in August. But
so that's what I want to do because I don't
know when I will do and I will probably at
least do one in July. It just might be later.
I can't guarantee it, but I would love to do
talk some Box Office, but we'll see. If I'm a
weekly geek, probably cover it then, so we'll see. I
Spo says, I'm always going to bed pretty late, but
it's kind of ran on. When my brain decides to
wake up in the morning. Even if I put alarms,
it'll either be like eight am on the dot or
eleven thirty am off the time. That must have been
nice waking up. I'm here, I am five am. I'll
be up in like five hours and babies, but you
know that's that's what happens. But how this happened was
Sabrina Carpenter. So here's the thing. I don't think she's
like awful music. I just have not enjoyed. I don't
get me wrong. I think her stuff can be catchy.
I understand why people like it. I don't maybe understand
to the point where my sister went to a concert.
You know, that's I mean just that music to meat
is not I just would not need to see that
live where. And I've seen stuff. And that's the thing
with Sabrina Carpenter, right, I really enjoy you know, check
out the gimmick back this weekend. Me David Sbub's playing
GM Mode season two, week six to ten. Gonna be
excited to creep up on sbubs. They take first place there.
But if not, don't worry. I always got a couple
of strats going on. But anyways, I like her gimmick.
You know, I'm, you know, sexually healthy, active person, sex pausive,
so I like all that, and I think it's fun.
I know, people go like, she's not really doing these
She's not really doing this that whole BBC thing she's
danging a white Irish man, Like I've seen all the criticisms, right,
but it's like, yeah, like one, I'm gonna guess that
like she is a sexually you know, pro active, healthy person.
But then I'm also gonna think that, okay, part of
a gimmick, right, Like you know, when Dustin Reynolds was
playing gold Dust, he wasn't always walking around touching people everything.
But I appreciate that. And there's some stuff I like that,
whether she says I like the position thing, I like that,
there's some lyrics in her songs and whatnot that are okay,
that's fun and catchy, and I like that it's a
little dirty and whatnot. And I'm not one of those
as far as like that's the weird thing where okay,
so and here I am defending her, where I don't,
you know, really enjoy her music. I've tried. I've given her.
I think I gave the full album a try once.
I'd say that like even then, like the song please
Please Please. I only like when she says motherfucker, because
she sounds like Tommy Wizzou from the room, Uh don't
touch me, motherfucker, And she says like, don't test me. Motherfucker.
Like it's something like that, right, So I like that,
And then taste is like as gonna say, good is
like the best of the bunch, but so not a
big family of music, but like everything she does give
me wise and like how she I don't know why
people have decided to it happens like every once in
a while, but I just feel like there's a lot
of people, especially on the woman's side, that are singers
that are very sexual and you could, yes, definitely make
the case that she is the most but there's just
so much like even I see people in my family
that are older posts like I can't believe she's doing this.
Look at our youth. It's like, I don't know. I know,
there'll be a state in my parenting where you can't
control what they look at the phone and everything, et cetera.
But there is a certain time where it's like, Okay,
well you gotta wait till that age is correct. And
that's where it's like, Okay, my daughters have heard the
espresso and her live stuff because it's on the radio,
but one they can't put two into together what it is,
and then two you just don't show like here's a
concert call, like, you don't do that. My kids are
all on social media, you know, they have. All they
have is kids, friends messenger of Facebook talk, their cousins
and a couple of friends. It's roadblocks as minecraft, and
I just feel like it's been the pile even that
was it was. And she did that Rolling Stone cover right,
which I thought, like, I don't know, of course, yeah,
I enjoyed the cover, right, but like looked good enough
to me as far as I liked the cover. It's
her on her knees. This is sound and really bad
to her on her knees, but it's like she has
a long extensions and the extensions are covered her breasts
in her ass right, so you can't see anything. It's
just the side of her. And I think, okay, that's
a fun, clever one. I like the Man's Best Friend cover.
It's like, okay, that's you know, you're leaning into it.
I know people are like, oh my god, like she's
talking about you know, these songs, like she's trying to
be empowering for women, but all these songs are about her,
you know, wanting to fuck men and be with men.
Even like the posts, right, it's like, well, it's just
like I think people kind of miss the idea of
what marketing is nowadays and it works right, and that's
why when she did that cover, it's like all these people, well,
there's definitely some people in the past have gone crap
for that, but either way, I just find it really
weird the pileon for her, and I'm somebody doesn't really
enjoy your music. I think the gimmick's good. I think
her promotion's good. But it's just like people just like, oh, yeah,
she's the one poisoning our kids. It's generations like all right, cool,
Like I guess, like like I guess you know who knows.
But I have as of right now, two older girls
five and seven that I've heard their music. But like
they're completely fine because you just have to you know,
parent and you everything will be okay. As long as
you pay attention to your kids and what they do,
you'll be okay. So it's funny. But anyways, I said, like, oh,
I made it a joke, like to Kirk, like, oh,
despite her you know, bad music, she's getting more and
more popular every day, and you know, again people like it.
And he threw a shot at Dualipa and you know,
I think that's unjustified. He's probably doing it just to
get a rouse and a pan me. And on the discord,
I won the poll and that s Bubbs, you're wrong
and do leave. I just think it's better in all categories.
I like the music. From what I've seen, I think
Selena or not Selena Sabrina's show is very cool put together.
I like some of the the montages and stuff, but
if you look at the for me, the actual performances.
And I was gonna go, but I'm not gonna go
to the States anymore. We have talked about that before.
I was gonna go in October. I'm like, I'm not
gonna do that. Got switch to and I hopefully we'll
see her one day, but just the actual like which
is funny because at the beginning of her career got
very i don't know, criticized for her nancing, but the show,
the quality things like that, the showmanship, like the song,
like the voice kind of everything. Right, So yeah, big
deer leap fan, Fine, happy she won the poll there,
and yeah, we will actually talk about Superman and Batman
and all that stuff now. But yeah, that's what we're
talking about today, We're gonna talk about is Marvel bearing
Ironheart because that came out today where they announced the
release schedule for the last three episodes, which is, you know,
the week after I'm gonna give a mini life. They
say they say life at Chuck, right. I hope I
did in my description here. Sometimes I just say, yeah,
life is Shike Chuck, Life of Chuck. Charlie Randell asked
on a Weekly Geek if we had seen that. I said,
none of them have, but I have, and I'll give
you a mini reviews. We got that, and then our
main topic, we're gonna be talking about Superman, James Gunn,
nat Reeves, Batman, all that good jazz, because that's been
a whirl win this week, right, And I feel like
it's everybody has a different opinion. And I've listened to
multiple shows, whether it's podcasters I listened to or friends,
and I feel like everyone's like very much on different
sides of the fence as far as like, oh yeah,
this is a smoke screen passings for sure going in
the DCU, or it's like no, absolutely not, that's not happening.
And it's tough because we have kind of I want
to say comments that contradict himself because James Gott I
think the way he said it makes sense. But we'll
get into that. Finally, it wouldn't be a Tras post
without Tepe. But no, absolutely not. No, I blame my
There's too much going on. I'm tired and sometimes my phone.
Now my phone has autocorrect to things that were correct
and now it's not because probably is using slang or
I've misspelled it before. So I don't know, And so
says I think if people see the album cover and
I assume the song is really gonna be about that,
that's just dumb, especially based on other songs. That's what
I mean. I think it's just like kind of fake
outrage stuff, right, Like I just I don't know, it's
just and I guess that's the way some people if
they don't think about right, if they just think of
motion first and or any thinking like that thing already
in our world as bobs, that thing's been parodied right
the cover, but that'll be paried otherwise. And that's that's
where I will say, Like again, not big fan or music,
but when you become that and you know you're the
parroting or people are trying to echo you. That's what
you want. You're the thing of the moment, right and
is Superman gonna be the thing of moment? Look that transition,
we'll see it. We'll talk about little tracking too that
is updated, but not like the official here is the
what they're putting out right now. It's just what Deadline
put out, which is quite lower than what we talked
about last week. So so James Gunn, he did this
interview with Rolling Stone. Pretty I've didn't read it, but
I've heard enough podcast. I know there was one podcast
that went over every comment or it's like okay, I
feel like now I know exactly what he said, and
I've read this stuff that was most important to me.
But there's some stuff in there about his journey and man,
like I did think about that. That guy has been
through a lot and crazy great career right like starts
by doing weird trauma stuff, totally get into Marvel, to
getting from fired to going to DC and then going back
to Marvel, then becoming the head of DC. Like quite
this quite the story really when you think about James Gunn,
it's one of the more interesting ones. We'll see the
success rate of it, right, But as far as just
his story alone, I don't know if you can make
a movie out of it, but like as he's a
character a movie or a show. But he did this
interview and I will pull up I guess the official quotes, right,
but I'd say the biggest things that he talked about Superman.
I'm not really gonna go over that because there I
might talk about some of it with the tracking, but
I'm not gonna go over think as far as his
inspirations you get in that, and I'm I'm not worried
about any of that stuff. I as I've I think
I've said this before, but if not, like I don't hmm.
I was gonna say, like I don't have a definitive Superman.
I guess I do, right, because I can say, well,
that's Christopher Reeve and that's like the boring answer. But
at the same time, I've said this before, like I
don't have a movie that is Man. This is the
not the be all end all. I have a favorite.
Superman is not one of my favorite comic book movies,
whether it because it's issue some poor writing, whether it's dated,
I digress. But like with the Dark Knight. That was
a Clearkay. This is one of my favorite movies all time,
still considered best comic bood all the time. And that's
why something for the Batman when that came out. That's
tough because it's a very Travis type of movie. Everything
I want them to do they did. I still think
as a movie, the Dark Knight's better, but I've still there.
I can make a case for The Batman personally being
number one for me. If I'm talking favorites. It's very,
very tough. I definitely need more time f it, but
that's how great it is as far as Okay, I
already had The Dark Knight, so anything else is kind
of Cherry's on top. Right. So that's the thing with Superman.
I think James Gunn could make that version for me, right,
I'm like, oh, I have I love Superman and I
can go and watch this multiple times and enjoy this
right where Superman seventy eight, I watch it, but I'm
not I watch it every few years, but I'm not like, man,
I just have to I have to watch it right now.
I've told about this all week. We're gonna wait, but
I've just been craving to watch The Dark Knight, right,
I don't have that with Superman one. I don't know
if that's gonna happen with this. I will say like
that happens with the Guardians films, right, there's something like, man,
I'd really like to watch Guardians. I don't have that
with Suicaid Squad, and I don't have that with his
older stuff. At the same time, I need to go
back and revisit his older stuff Slither, super and I
don't think I'm missing anything else, which I enjoyed those
as well, and bright Burn Scooty, which he didn't direct,
but he wrote, which I enjoyed those as well. But anyway,
so so he did this interview, and of course the
Batman stuff comes up. He talked about Woneer Woman, which
I agreed with those comments, and he was like, I
agree with a lot of stuff he says, and that
that's where it comes down to the point. I'm gonna
bring it one Maddie's questions here in a second, But
that's where it comes down to. I agree with all
the things he says, and I'm gonna ass right now
just hope to believe that he's true. Even in the discord.
I mean and have some fun with it. I'm still
actively gonna say, well, I'm gonna say even though there's
times where he has fibbed or gone back on what
he said yet because don't remember there was a time
where he said, no, that's not happening. We I don't
think he said we didn't consider it, but he just said, like, no,
we didn't talk about passing being the DCU. And then
we had this article this week, but we had it
in the past as well, where it was okay, uh yeah,
of course there's a consideration. So it's like, okay, what
is it? Was it never consideration? Was it was? And
it's not the be all? And also right, there's something
like a very heated about this. This is just like
for a point of conversation and fun because we like
this stuff. I don't really give a fuck if James
guns lying that much. If they cancel The Batman two,
yeah that'll suck. And yeah, I definitely will not be
in as a vest in the DCU because I was told, hey, yeah,
we want to do else worlds and we like what
Matt student we're doing that I've always said, I know
it's been pitched as a trilogy, I have it in
my mind that I am much more forgiving if if
the trilogy doesn't fully happen, because I feel like it's
it's an awkward spot for everybody involved, right. I would
like that case, especially when saying, oh, leave Mattlone, he's slow, Right.
I would love it if it was like, Okay, we
got the Batman two and let's say did take it?
Because what Batman one came out in two thousand and
twenty two, and if this comes out in twenty twenty seven,
that's five years. If even let's say that does hit
that date and then two thousand and thirty two, the
last one Batman Part three comes out, I think that's
not like awful for the DC, like you can do
it just sleeping between you to a Batman like, I
think that's a lot of time, Like, hey, every five years,
you're getting something there. It's more difficult when there's other
shows involved, or if it's not gonna be as long.
So with part two, I'm not saying I'm holding James Gunn,
but there's I am expecting it based on what his
comments are, right, And that's a tough thing because he
even knows he can't just outright him out and say yeah,
we're getting rid of the Batman too, because that's something
where he says, yeah, it's not canceled. But if you
looked at when he took over DC, that happened with
Gow and Super with Ben and not so much Henry
as he made that old pulsey, Yeah I'm back and
I'm gone now. But remember that affuck He said, yeah,
we'd love to work with Affleck and we're talking on
talking to him about things right where when Affleck talked
about it it felt very shut down, like, yeah, I'm
not doing that now. Who knows. That could just be
the way Affleck is. That could be a indicative of
how those meetings went or just how his attitude was. Right,
That's that's the problem. Where all the stuff, oh man,
I forgot to put in the note we're gonna talk about
play Face day too. There's a fucking casting. I hope
I can remember that, and there's some stuff I have
questions there too, but it's like we don't know because
we just get some of this information. But the same
thing with Gallaxy that wasn't let go right away because
it's like, well she's still says Zam there's some pacing out.
So there's two ways you could look at this. You
could look at this as far as hey, he's Rumerson
telling the truth, of which many people are. He's saying
these things and we're just gonna go with it and
hope that he didn't a lie, right or or you know,
tell tell a white lie. Or it's the same thing
as before where it is prepping us for the big push.
It's prepping us for oh man, you know. So it
doesn't because now here's the thing. If when James Gunn
took over DC and let's say a month after, like
the Henry thing, right, and maybe that's where he learned.
Like the Henry thing, where Henry's back everyone, most people
are excited, let's see what happens. Gun gets it and
then boom, he's out of there. And it was a
big hub to do right. People were mad about it.
I'm sure Henry wasn't happy about it. You know, get
brought back and it's not like with him DC Gun
in the Rock there was lots of just push and
pull in general there right of sounds like he got
screwed over, but I'm sure James Gunn saw that reaction
like well that's not good, and you're still pissing some
people off, right, that might go, I'm done with DC
for now or whatnot. So if you talk to Travis
and let's say I can't remember when he got hired, right,
was it covid? I think it was twenty twenty. Let's
just say it's twenty now. Maybe I can't remember when
James gunn gun. When did James Gonna get hired? Oh?
Fuck off, Mac, don't be moving all this James gun
DC hired. Let's see it comes up there. Let's see
it was hardly November twenty twenty two, okay, and then
Batman came out in March twenty twenty two. Okay, So yeah,
I was right after Black Adam, right, because that's where
it went. So November that came out. It's all coming back.
So let's say same situation where you get there'd even
be less like more time because the Batman came on
in March. But let's say he fired Cavil three weeks
after got brought back. Yes, I think even he told
a story this week where it's like a very he said,
she said of what the situation was. But I'm sure
one time we'll find out. But let's say just January,
even January twenty twenty three, they announced, you know what, sorry,
we're not gonna do The Batman. Myself and many others
very very probably pissed again in a comic book having
fun sort of realm right, I'm not gonna be actually
pissing like us. Just keep me up. I can't go
to bed. No, it's like, oh that sucks. Something I
really like was supposed to continue. It's not if they
announced it that early, we're all mad, we're not happy
about it. Where now it's to the point where it
would be a bummer, it'd be a gut punch, it
would be a very sad day in the discord, and
of course would cast about it. But if they said, oh, yeah,
the Batman twos no longer have any it would not
be a surprise and it would lessen the blow a
little bit. Again. For me, I'm not saying I'll never
watch a DC project, but it definitely makes me less
invested and makes me more likely to skip things, because
I have already done that with Creature Commandos. Like I
thought it was fine, and then I was like, I
don't feel like you need to watch this, and that's
where it's like in this situation where it's overtelling, over selling,
same thing of like, oh no, it's not cancel he
talked about that on threads and then say anything in
this like oh no it's not canceled, you know, matches
slub blah blah. And then even when they asked about
passed and he said it's not likely at all. You know,
it's not likely, not likely at all. Now here's the thing,
and that's where it's always tough, right where because I
feel like with each either there's months in betweens or
even a common in between, right where if you just
cut off that post where hey is were our passing,
give me the DCU not likely at all? I would
take that as okay, there's still like a little bigger room,
but not likely at all. That's firm. But then within
that same answer, he's like, but never say like it's
not a zero chance. He pretty much says never say never, right,
which I get because he clarifies like, you never know
when the business And that's the thing, right, what if
we're in a situation and there is a few ways
where I still would accept pass and in the DCU,
U and I will get to your question Matty about
the percentage, because I think they'll go into what I'm
talking about and let me see that I have the
full quote here. It's not likely at all human courting
in the DCU. I would never say zero because you
just never know, but it's not likely, not likely at all.
That's the full quote. So to me, I still read
that as no, it's not happening. And that's where Maddie asked,
what is your percentage? And this is what's going to
gid us to this whole topic here of passing being
in the DCU. I think there's three different times, three
or four different times that the percentages can change. I'll
say right now, I actually am currently in the seventy percent.
He's not. I still I think there is some stuff
that is a little fishy. Like I said, there's this
protocol he's done before where it's like, oh, let's just
kind of ease them into the Canceling's just not cancel
that right away. There's stuff like we're in I guess
talking about now because it's not worth a cutout or anything,
but they oh God, who's the clay faced guy? Because
I've never seen this clay face actor in my life.
Don't know how good he is. I've heard some people
say I like him. Let's see cast. Let me give
the man his due, though oh, nothing's come out, come
on Google News, Okay, Tom Reese, Harry's okay. So so
I'm saying seventy percent right now, Matt for Maddie for
right now, because that's where I said, like, there's the questions, uh,
there's the statements and even stuff like okay, so they
cast this guy his clay face, that's great all And
I'm not gonna bring it up because I brought too
much stuff then and I don't want there. But James
Gonna talks about you know, they search for hundreds of
actors and we're excited about this, you know, guy taking
on the character data and he says, I'm like, oh mad,
and I approve this or man and I were blown
away and it's not this is not like me trying
to because I feel like my stuff's worn. Quizz of
where I felt like there's a lot of people that are
asking that are in a defensive way like no matter what,
trying to defend Jim's gunn or in an attacking way
where I'm just kind of I want someone And maybe
he would not answer this, but I would want to say, hey,
if Matt Reeves is so slow, right, that that's what
they're trying to put out, which even before rumors of
like some personal stuff with Matt Reeves, that was a
word that he, you know, was a slow writer. So okay,
if he's so slow, why do we have him I
guess watching maybe screen test for clay Face or putting
his input. I guess unless he's literally just sending him
a photo like hey, does this guy look like a
clay Face? And he goes, yeah, he does. That's it? Click?
Oh the wind got me there? Like right? Is I
believe I need some water? But I've always been curious
because there's the clay Face one, and there's that dynamic
duo animated movie about two robins. Right, why is Matt
Reeves producing these? He's got the Penguin. They've at times
and see Penguin Season two can happen? They've insinuated they
might do other DC or like Crime Saga, you know,
Batten the Crime Saga spin offser shows. Wouldn't you just
be doing those? You know? And that's why I just
don't know. Is there something we don't know or is
it something that you know? The conspiracy timfoil had is
like his gun trying to butt him up, where he's
trying to bring him into the inner circle, like yeah,
like come and produce this, and produce this, produce clay
face and it's almost like a thing where and maybe
this is could be right where Matt reeves Mus saying
he doesn't trust some sense of James gunn evile, just
a sense of hey, he's a new producer slash studio head.
He is a different type because he is a director.
Because even in all these interviews he talks about the
notes he gives and he goes over the script's the
most important thing, which I like, I agree with that
as far as yeah, have a shooting scriptlock ready to
go before you actually do this right, because we've seen
obviously that can happen, like Iron Man the first one
that didn't have a script ready and it's a great movie.
Some mission apostle fault that didn't have a script ready,
great movie even though they shot it kind of all
the way. But that's not idea, right, that's like a man,
we really got away with it. I'm sure it happens
way more than we think in movies. But still some
of these bigger ones, especially with DC and Warner Broters
having along the line with this first Universe kicking off movie,
that is to me a thing that I would like
to have is a longscript. I agree with him there,
but that's the thing where okay, is it the sense
where let me work with him or I'm gonna work
with him and he's gonna see how work, and he's
gonna see that we can make this work. Because most
time James Gunn he will say no, but there's always
like I never know. Matt Reeves when he was asked
about it at the I think it was the Emmys,
he did give like a you never know, but his
way more sound like that's not something I would really
like to do. You know. It sounded like you never know,
but if it happens, I'm not there and maybe I'm wrong, right,
But that's where it's just like Antsy butter him up,
or it's just like Matt Reeves, you know, loves Batman,
so he's like, I'll bring him on. I don't know.
I want an interview to ask this stuff and not
Ean and I got you, like what's going on? Just like, hey,
you know matt Reeves has the Crime Saga, why is
he helping produce stuff in the DCU? And maybe something
simple and maybe it's something that's a falsehood, right James
go would say something and go okay, this is kind
of bullshit. But that's the answer he gives. But I'm
just curious why he does that with you know, like
Aspos points out that matt Ari's meme going around, it's like, hey,
that's great, Then why is he producing? Why if he's
so slow, I don't know if he has time to
look at these clay faced screen tests or whatnot, right,
especially if it's not even his Batman. If it was, hey,
doesn't matter that he slow. He's gonna play you know,
Batman two. But this is the clay facepin off movie
we're doing. It's based off of Flanning in script yet
Da da da da, and it's gonna interact or be
in the Crime Saga world or you know, passings in there.
Then you go, okay, this makes sense of why he
wants to maybe see an act or get a vibe
or whatnot. But as of right now, he has nothing
to do with the DCU Badman. He has nothing to
do with this universe. Why is he producing these things?
It's just in name credit, you know, I really don't know.
So right now I'm taking it as a seventy percent
because there is other stuff too where I'm hopeful because
he said he's writing. Let's see if I can find
that exact quote, but which I did appreciate too. He
said something about he doesn't want to camby Batman, but
I again, he goes, I don't want to make a
campy Batman, but at the same time, like we gotta
make a difference is to the Matt Reeves Badman, right,
which that's tough. Right, Let's see, can I find the
script nuts I'm just gonna paraphrase. But I enjoyed this
as well. When they asked about Batman said that's the
hardest thing to crack. And I bet it is right
because let's say that like him saying that, him saying
he's working with another writer, and the thing that got
me more confident in him when he's like, I think
I have a way in He's like, I was trying
to figure out Batman didn't know what I coul do,
but I think I have a way in. I thought
I already had a way in with the Damian Wayne
stuff because when he talks about like, hey, if we're
not gonna do campy and very comedic Batman, which okay,
I appreciate, I thought James Guns might lean that more away.
But if not, okay, if it's not doing that, I
thought the way to DIFFERENTI yourself is like, hey, older Batman,
which you know we've seen before, but like passings, Batman
is younger, and then the kid aspect, right, nobody, many people,
maybe billions of people don't even know Batman has a
biological son because it is a newer silk COmON book run. Right,
it's in the past twenty is year, I think right
now at this point, yeah, it was not We're in
twenty twenty five, right, Yeah, I think I'm right in
that ballpark. But that's what because the way he phrased it,
or at least how they quote him, felt a lot
like when he talked about why he's doing Superman, and
I'm sure that to me was not a lie, felt
like that was genuine. He talked about cracking and finding
an angle, same thing, What is his angle with Batman?
I thought he had found that with Damian Wayne because
that had his angle. I do push back with I
get what he's saying because he said, well, Wonder Woman
doesn't have that many versions of the film, so that's
much easier where this Batman. Every story about Batman's ever
been told. It's like, I don't agree with that at all.
I know people might scoff, go like, you got so
much Batman stuff already, but there's so many characters, so
many stories, so many villains, so many reveals that they
still have not even touched or adapted. So I think,
like the Damian Wayne one, that's one right, like even
stuff like ros al Ghul reason and old stuff, but
he's not like the rosoh Gul that you know in
Love for the comics, with the anime film where it's
like supernatural and fantastical in the Lazarus Pit. That brings
me back, like there's tons of stuff. But I get
what he means that there's been so many that have
already happened. Hard to differentiate yourself, right, I am very
curious who this writer is. He keeps talking about this writer.
I know people say that they think it's him, and
he's just like not not a bunch of people, but
enough people that I've seen seen like they think it's
him and he's just lying about it. Which so I'm
of two minds if he again, because one's a conspiracy
timfo hat, if he feels like he has it in
and then he also has a scriptwriter with him, I
would hope that he's not just paying the scriptwriter for
shits and giggles. Right like that, that's they clearly have
some sort of vision for this character. If it's something
all Betnytunge's favorite actor. I forgot about that right when
he said on the finale he had a scene with
a tremendous actors's favorite actor and was trying to figure
out who was It was just himself, you know, damn.
But that's where it's like, Okay, the conspiracy tinfoil halfing
is he's just saying that he's working with a writer
and he's writing himself. So then okay, when we pull
the Batman two plug, I got a scriptway to go,
and here we are, because it would that's where I'm
trying to be positive and going to seventy percent. That
would make no sense to have someone writing a script
for the DCU Batman, if your plans to get passing
in there, because like again, I still think you could
make it work. I think the universe, or like at
least the world's the cities are different enough. I've seen,
you know, the fanets. I think they got a vibe together.
But at the same time, I'm still in the camp
I'd rather if Matt Reeves wants to just a trilogy
or just the second part. I'm in that camp because
absolutely loved that movie. So oh god, what else? I
was gonna say something else, but yeah, so yeah, of
course conspiracy that is that he's working on it or
he doesn't want to do it. But it just doesn't
make sense that you would hire somebody and maybe bring
them in, because then I feel like that script would
be wasted because you know, let's say there was some
situation right where we're gonna go over some of these scenarios.
If they go to Matt and say we're putting you
in the DC like it's happening in DC, and Matt
agreed to it and said, yeah, let's do it. I
think I can figure this out. I could be wrong.
I feel like he's gonna have a script and make
his own changes. I don't think it would be. Hey,
here's the script I was working on with this writer,
make a few changes to it to make it fit,
and then here we go. Which I just feel like
that would from what we've just heard of Matt Reeves,
that would perturb him a lot and that'd be tough
to work on, right. So that's where I just if
that's true that they're writing on a DCU script for
that man, then I feel like them would be less
motivated to go and get that. Now again, you could
just kill it, they could wait. Maybe matt Reeves not
ends up doing it. I don't know. So uh A
nice to see reason to address it. Almost just called
usually just call you RJ, and I'll call you resident RJ.
I'm down for whatever matt Reeves and Gun want to do.
And that's the best thing, right, Like, I agree with you.
And that's where it does get tricky, where if we
for some reason get let's say, Gun is just buttering
us up, right to lay the hammer down if it
is like a Snyder situation, because it's a tough thing
where no matter what, he got his cut, which is
a crazy thing that happened. But at the same time
there always feels like for that fan base that they're
missing something right. It hurt me less of snyer cut
stuff because I wasn't invested in that universe until the
Justice League. Like his cut I thought was great. I
would have taken more, but I was fine with where
we were going. If that history repeats itself and that
scenario happens where they, oh, yeah, Matt Reeves is just
gonna be a producer, but he's not direct, he's not writing.
We're getting past it involved and it comes out or
it's pretty much a you know, unknown secret or a
known secret that isn't happy about this. Gun will be
in that the situation that all the you know, the
Walter Hermadas or the Ann seranofs like the Toby Emericks.
He'll put himself there. It's not as bad because those
some of those people did some very heinous stuff there.
But in the eyes of big, powerful, corporate overlord, I
think Gun's trying to stay. You know, I'm a fan,
I'm a man of people, but I also I had
a job. I gotta fucking do right, because like even
in his interviews, he's dropping half bombs, he's swearing, sucking,
very personal stories. Fig he doesn't do that. He's very
business like, you know. I know people memed on him
last year, but even when he said the force like
that was fun because he is very like other than
wearing that hat, he is very business official, right, he says.
I just want to give them a definite answer to
say something already, though, because the discord is tiring. Just
cast a new actor, get Batman two moving forward already
so we can move on. I think there's a part
of Gun that would like to merge the worlds, but
it would be a lot easier and trying to write
a new Batman from the ground up. But he respects
Rais' his friend's pier and I think that's where it is.
I think if you get Gun alone in a room,
no cameras or nothing, you say, hey, you know, Rees
has changed his mind. He wants to be in the DCU.
I think he'd be great. All my problems are solved.
I think that is the tough point, and that's where it's.
That's where I'm fine with just not fine. I want
it all, but like I'm more trying to get used
to the idea of him just doing two and three,
not happening, because it's just bad timing of you know,
it seemed like Warner Brothers was maybe just going to
go back to doing one off projects or just figuring
out along the way. But it's like, well, we got
this Batman project, great, and then you come in, you
got a new chief Chiefs, you got a new owner.
And then it's like, well, we want to do a universe.
It's very tough. It's it's exactly and that's where there's
so many echoes. Right. That's what happened to George Miller
with the Nolan stuff, that it was a combination of
the strikes happened, but also the word was Nolan was like,
I don't want another fucking Batman. I just gave you
The Dark Knight, gave you the biggest comic movie of
all time. There at that point was only a few
movies that hit a billion dollars and Nolan had one
of them. And you're gonna tell him, like, you know what,
We're gonna do another Batman? And I could see him
being like, nah, especially what we know with him, right,
they fucked him over with ten in his mind and
he get the fuck out of there, right, And that's
a tough thing where you don't necessarily want to do
that to matt Reeves especially, we don't know fully what's
going on. So it's like if there is a like
even you know, I don't want to say that, but
some health situation and he gets fucked over, that's where
it's it stings. It's different if he comes out and
says something like, hey, I'm leaving for X, Y and Z. Right,
and if you were to lay the scenario down of
Hay Travis, matt Reeves is out, he doesn't want to
do it. We're gonna do DC Batman, who would you
want to be? I would be down for passing. I'm
and again, if Reese has had a change of mind,
he said, hey, I can make this work because I
think I know people always point out, oh, they're so
different the universe. Like, that's to me what I want
from Superman and Batman. I want their cities to feel
so different. So when they're together, that is the krem
to kremed of it, right, Like that's what the good
stuff is there of seeing these people come from very
different walks of life at their present time and not
just look completely the same. Right, And yeah, everyone's like Oh, well,
the Batman's super realistic. Yeah it is. But even I'd
say Batman Begins and Dark Knight were more realistic than
any comic film, right. Even the Dark Knight Rises is
more realistic than other com book stuff. That certain movie
starts to get way more comic bookie, right. And there's
nothing in The Batman like there's so many times in
Batman com books he will just be dealing with the
mob and then guess what, two issues later, he's fighting
a fucking army of bats. I don't have a problem
with that, and I think there could be. I think
my pitch to make this happen, and I don't think
they would do this because of time. My pitch is
and it's tough with what they have going with Batman.
And I'll address what Argie said there in a second two.
But like my pitch is, you have, if it has
to happen, you have passing in the DCU and the
crossover stuff to start off now, and you I don't
know if you will go for this. You say, Hey,
the Reeves trilogy, that's younger Batman. That's a prequel before
he meets like that all happens before other superheroes justly
and you know you gotta talk about that stuff. And
then when Passing goes on to do the DC stuff,
res can say, hey, I did my trilogy. I walk away.
It's almost like if and Baiale wouldn't have done this,
and maybe Passing wouldn't. But it's like, let's say Nolan
finishes the Dark Knight trilogy and then they go to
bail which rumored happened of saying hey, we'd like you
to be Batman and BVS, and let's say he did it.
That's what I'm kind of pitching is the Batman Reeves
trilogy is everything before he gets entwined superhero stuff, and
then he goes I still like them separate. I also
just for the experiment of I would love to see
what happens when we get The Batman Part two and
then two years later you get Braining the Bold Bike
that and that's the tough thing, right, We've talked about
that before, where let's say the Batman two comes out,
kills it, brain Bowl comes out and is a flowp
disappointed people don't like it for whatever reason, and it's
like you have the lesser Batman. That's tough. So Arjie says,
the only thing I can think of is, what if
DC Batman isn't Bruce Wayne. What if Bruce Wayne is
missing and it's Dick Grayson Batman at least, then there's
a clear distinction between the two. Hmm. That's tough. The
reason I'll push against it, I'm not against it in
the future. I liked Dick Grace enough as Batman in
that run because it just felt weird, but I liked that.
I didn't know how I felt about Gordon being Batman
in a zero year and all that stuff, or endgame
or post endgame. I guess I think that the issue
for me is it feels similar to like what I
always hates a strong word. But what I disliked in
the DCEU was stuff, for example, where we meet Joker
and Harley. Obviously there's lots of different you know, cuts
of that movie. And this is where it's tough, right,
because supposedly they kind of had that original Joker, but
it's like a Joker and hardly dynamic where he's mean
to her and he abuses her and she breaks off.
But in that movie, it's just you've skipped everything and
it's just Joker and Harley together and then they break up,
and you know, it just feels like there's weird stages.
And that's my pushback against the clay Face movie as well,
where it's just like it has Sony ish to it.
Right now, if they keep most of the flag and script
and James Gun's producing, I trust him, I think that'll
be better than every other Sony Marvel film, right but
still it gives that vibe. I don't like seeing the
villain before we get to Batman. It's the same like
would Dick Grayson to me, if you were to take
over as Batman, that should be a massive moment that
the audience gets to feel right, say whatever you do,
and some people hate it, but like to me with
when you're sitting there with the general audience, there was
a fever at the end of Dark Knight Rises when
John Blake was again the gear and become Batman. When
that thing rose up that crowd, I remember applause. People
are like, oh my god. People in the general audience,
they would have fucking took a Joseph Gordon love Batman movie.
And that's what I mean where I think you need
to build up to that arch I don't know if
people would accept it right away, because then there are
some people that go, eh, this is the second tier Batman,
right and not apples to apples, But could you maybe
make a case for that for Captain America right as
far as ah, this is the backup Captain America, right, Like,
I think there's a lot of people and that's why
I know tons of and I know now there's been
rumors of a thor or five, so it's not gonna happen.
But when everyone was like, oh, they're gonna kill Chris Hemsworth,
I'm like, nah, unless he wants out, they're gonna Anybody
that wants to stay from the original like Phase one
to three, they're gonna keep because I think they see
that the audience. And there are some people that are
like that that don't want the secondary characters to be
the heroes. Right. For me, it's a case by case basis,
but I think that's where if you start with Dick Grayson,
it'll feel like, oh, like, that's not the real Batman.
The real Batman is Rob Passon, right, And then even
then people might be like, is that is he the
one that's missing? So I would have no problem with it.
I think that would be a fun take. I know
that's where like the Batman rum story is. But the
same thing with what they've pitched of having a son,
I want to see that dynamic and I would like
to see Dick and Batman and Tick and Batman's Dick
and Bruce's relationship flesh. So that's the same thing. When
James Gun's like, oh, there's so many stories they've all
been told, It's like, no, Like, I'm not gonna count.
I'm not gonna count twenty year old adoptive Crystal Donald,
who did a great job, was wrong, but I'm not
gonna count him as like the adoption story for Batman.
That to me is a that's a mood that is
a whole movie in itself right the same way I've
pitched as I would, They're not gonna do it now.
I always want them to do like a Disney Plus
series of not big action, but like a sixth episode
what happens when a Jedi meets padawan that you know
has a family everything. They pluck them and it's like, yeah,
you're gonna become this great Jedi, powerful, You're gonna do good,
but uh, no more emotions you're not gonna see in
your friends getting again see a family, and that's the
same thing as this of you have this kid similar
different to Batman where okay, his parents get killed, his
family gets killed, and then you meet this man who
turns up to be a billionaire, turns will be a
crime fighter and then trains you and that dynamic, right,
and that's right. I think the animated series did that.
Offesly Comic says, but the movies haven't. There's a full
movie about and just even in general some people that
can struggle with adoption, depending the age to get the
child right. So there's a whole story there. So I
think that's the thing where I need to see Batman
and Dick together. And Spob says, that's just sps. Are
you fully on the You're you're I think you're fully
on the past and the DC you think, right, And
I think a lot of peop bar not gonna lie
the pictures of them together. It looks like it goes
like it looks like it's like, okay, that that's the
night and day that you want, right, So we'll see.
So I will try and list off all the stuff
here or just says the appeal Batman Superman across members
just how different they are. They feel like don't belong
together and work well as a duo. Yes, I agree,
and I think that's why I gonna at least said
like this Batman can't be camping. I would not be
shocked to the intries Batman in the clay Face movie. Yeah,
I think if this is for sure happening, if Guns
like like, yes, we're doing dc Batman. Fuck everybody for
saying I'm lying we're doing it. I think there is
a chance it just feels still a little odd, but
that might make it a little bit better. Or cast
an older Batman, but it isn't exactly what the DCU
do with Affleck Affleic wasn't old, but the whole point
it was old grizzled compared to young or Superman. And
that's a tough thing, right Where you get in a
situation where if they cast an older Batman and if
Guns follow up to Man of Steele's World's Fun, you
are going in a lot of similar blueprints blueprints of
the DCU or DCEU. My thing has always been like
happens all the time. I you know, she's great now
she's a forty old woman. She's all of them are graduating,
moved up with my sister. She got pregnantly sixteen. That's
what I always say at Batman, is you do that
you do while he's training, he bumped and Rozagul League
of Assassins, and that's where people go, well, they got
to be forty forty five. I think to keep that
age similar you have and maybe you can make it
a different a little bit, right, like eighteen twenty, but
you have him. I'd say twenty to sixteen that Talia
gets pregnant and he doesn't know about this kid, right,
That's what I'd say, So you can kind of get
your cake and eat it too. Where Let's say you
got someone pregnant at sixteen and then fourteen years later
he's still just thirty. He's you know, he's I'm thirty one.
I'm thirty one, I got five kids. It's possible to happen,
you know, like that. And obviously they're much younger, they're
not like crime finding everything like that, but like you
can do that, right, So, uh, let's see, Archie says,
the Batman. Stories that haven't been told are there? Sorry,
the Batman stories that haven't told are the stories involving
in the bat family, So it makes sense for the
lean that I agree with that. Again, I still think
there's tons of villains that haven't been told. I think
there's more you can do with Alfred and Gordon. There's
tons of stuff like look at fucking Court of Ows
that does include the bat family. But just that idea, right,
so let's see and yeah Arja, yeah, I talked about
that too, like why is matt Ree's involved in all this?
So that's where for me to kind of curtentail this
that as of right now, I think that they will
still be separate. I think if Souperman is a hit,
like whether it just breaks even or is the same
type of hit as the Batman, I it's hard for
because let's say there's a situation where they've give the
green ahead and even David's Azov's like yeah, like even
though he say doesn't want multiple ba, I'm been running around,
he's still my money to be like, don't touch that,
like that's working, leave that alone. I think if it's
a hit similar size to Batman, I still think the
Batman's completely fine. And that's where man, you talk about
percentage wise. Now, if Superman is like a massive hit
and I to me, that's like nine hundred and up,
maybe even nine to fifty. But I think if that's
nine hundred and uh, that's like that's dick swinging. James
Gunn can do whatever he kind of wants, right because
you would see the window. To me, that's a bigger audience. Now.
I know Batman came out during COVID, but still Superman's
more family oriented and you have a lot more COMPLA
movies that have bombed since the Batman. That is a
lot of rec before James gonna be like, Yeah, you're Reeves.
You're either in or you're out, and who knows what
passing would do, right, but you're either in or out.
That's what we're doing. I thought we could make it work.
We can't. We're doing this. That's where it's like, if
Superman gets up to nine hundred, my percentage is like
a fifty to fifty Maddie. As far as if passing
is in the DC or not, because it's it's tough
and you could argue that could help it, right, that
could make it bigger. So it's interesting because I'm in
a situation where I want some man do well and
I want it to succeed, and I wanted to have
a DC universe and have them have the same leaps
and bounds that Marvel got to, right, But at the
same time, for me personally, I've enjoyed a lot of
James Gunn's work, but I haven't seen anything that you know,
touches the Batman, which is weird, right, because I you know,
I have no problem saying I give all the Grinds
Galaxy movies ten to ten. Love those movies. But I've
always said that's like an enjoyment skill, right, if you
get me on the best scale, and like film wise,
I don't think those or the Suicide Squad or I imagine Superman,
you know, formerly the Legacy will hold a candle to
what Reeve's end company was doing there, because I just
think Reeves is he has more of an on tour level,
you know. I think James Gunn is a great mainstream
blockbuster type of director and can do other stuff well.
I think he can be great, right, and he's very witty.
I think he's great at character arcs. You look a
piece maker, like a pure quill, but it's still like
I can't put anything he's done on the level of
Reeves because I think Reeves is one of those more
elite directors. And I think that's the other thing too,
why he like does take so long because he's he's
trying to crack every single thing. So Buster barbs is
I don't think there's any way they merge both Gun
and Ree's visions go down the toilet. So I don't
think there's any way they merge both Guns and Ree's
visions go down the toilet. I don't think for it's tough, right,
because we don't know them. I don't know for Gun because,
like I said, what happens if Matt Reeves were to
walk in and just say, yeah, I'm down to do
this and say, hey, like you couldn't just make it
that like I know it passes like in year two,
but he had to train, so like, yeah, let's just
say he got a Tiger Gogle pregnant while he was
training and they're going passing. He's the type of guy
that can look younger and look older kind of at
the same time. So I don't think Guns goes down
the toilet. I think I think for what Reeves is envisioning. Yes,
it would. I don't think it would make sense to
have you know, he beats two faces in The Batman
Part two and Dave cornwoot falls you know, flies by like, hey,
I could have helped you with that one. I'm like, no,
I don't need it, Like I don't know if Matt Reeve.
But again saying there with gun, it's like, that's the
thing where I want to believe the else World's thing, right,
because that's also what I want, you know, secondarily the
most to of course, I want the universe, I guess,
but like, first thing want Matt Reeves finishes trilogy at
least get to want these you to succeed it. That'd
be great. But then what I would want is elseworlds.
And I've always want to marvel do that not in
the oh, it's what if? And it's all connected to No.
I would love to just say, hey, we're doing a
movie called Iron Man. It's not connected anything. We are
getting Tom Cruise to play Tony Stark. It's just a
one off. To me, that'd be great, But I know
it's tough for companies that are already having enough of
trouble trouble with enough stuff that's connected, right, So yeah,
I don't know. It's gonna be interesting to see how
this all goes. I think the same thing like you're saying,
r J. We just need there'll be a either sigh
of for Leaf or a big hubbabaloo on the first
thing that's cast, whether that is someone for the Batman
two or the DCU Batman. That's where if we get
someone in clay face, it's there. We're good. Like that's
like to me, that's it's it's over that point. It
doesn't matter what the Batman two does. Batman two could
bomb and then they'll kill that. But if James Gunn and
we get a clay face maybe and Batman's in there,
case closed, that's done. I don't think there's even with
the at least the movie. Once it starts to get
cast for the Batman too, and it gets out there,
I think that's a case closed for a k BA
Batman two's happening. I don't think it's for the DCU
because I think maybe gun is always trying to work
it over. But I'm gonna again right now, just try
to just take him by his word. Eve, though there's
been sometimes some things that have exactly lined up from
point A to point B. So yeah, we'll we'll see.
Hope it doesn't happen. I'd like that Batman trilogy, finish
it off going I even understood. What I understand more
is the TV stuff that I think is what's a
bit tougher, because if you start to do more shows
in the Batman world. Don't get me wrong, I'll take
a cat on the show. I'll take this show, but
you do more shows in the world to me that
does feel like its own really many years, and then
you get people that could pick which to me should
be fine. That's where I was with obviously not gonna
talk about now, but when they I hated Jerry Lewi's choker,
I think all around performance adaption everything right, the story
with Harley bad, bad, bad, all bad. And I said
that before there was oh there's another cut of this. No,
It's like no, no, no, the stuff in here is bad.
You know. Now people go, oh, yeah, I can see
the cracks and it's the same thing as Justice League. Right,
there's so many people that I don't know, I'll say,
defend that movie or didn't see it. But you can
go back to the review where I may have been
wrong with some stuff that was weaned, some stuff that
was zach, but I was like, this is not this
is not it. This is like this is this is
a mess, you know where some people revision history Now
it's like, oh, yeah, of course it's a mess. It
is the worst movie ever. It's like, yeah, well, at
the time, you're talking pretty highly about it, which is
you know, I'm not saying that everyone can change your mind,
don't get me wrong about that, but it's just like that.
That's where, you know, I'm happy to have things recorded
in the past. God, where was I going. I went
on a little rant there about people in their opinions everything,
but ah, crap. Maybe I will return back to it.
But uh yeah, we'll see what happens with the Baman,
with Superman, with James Gunn, with Matt Reeves who brought
Pass and it's gonna be it's gonna be an interesting
time in the next little bit here to see what happens.
I hope it's just supermand as well DCU starts. We
let Batman. Oh that's what I was going to with
the universes. I don't think the GA cares, but I
think Gun who's online and lots of the fan base,
you'll get the camp of you know, Oh, I like
the Batman crime saga f the DCU and vice versa.
For me, I was fine with Jared Lew's Joker coming
back for Justice because like, well, I just got Walking
Phoenix's Joker. I'm good for a bit, you know, love
that performance, love that movie, don't love the sequel, don't
love the choices they made for multitude of reasons. But
to go chickular reviews about those, I just gonna like, yeah, sure,
let them have Jared Lit'll come back. That's cool. I
gotta joke over here, and that to me should be
the way of it, right where let's say you get
the Batman Part two and you get Brain in the
Bold and you know what the rain bold. You know,
Gun said, it's not gonna be camping, but it kind
of is not really for me, and you just go,
but I get a Batman over here. It shouldn't be
like weaponized, but we all know will be right, So yeah,
let's be let's think of ad break and we'll be
right back and both with some Superman potential tracking in
a way and then uh, some other details about that,
so we'll be right back and we are back. So again,
this is not the official like full on box office
trackers that are putting this out, Like that's the tough
thing where you have, you know, box office Theory, which
just like again, the site is called because I've seen
people just get so worked up with stuff with scool
and I guess it just has to be they don't
have something too much going on. But like with Stuper
Scoop Snooper Scoopers or this, like, well it's early tracking,
so you know, you know, either don't get too excited
or like you know, like don't you know if this
doesn't hit, it's a disaster like the highs and lows.
The website's called box of Theory. It's the theory we
thought this last week where it's just like based on
social media all that stuff. Even with the deadline thing,
it's like it's projected one hundred million, but it's not
the official ones. And they even had some sort of
line where it's like, oh, I think this is like
some Thursday sales in week or whatnot. We won't know
till a couple more weeks later, and it will be
fun to see. But it's not like school, like it's
the same thing of a topless on Bodhry. I can't
remember one time we did a whole a rant about
this where I think it was talking about like Snyder
in some scoops like that, like Jeff sin Iyer. It's like,
I just I don't care, like I don't care about
certain scoopers getting mad about certain things or us getting
mad Scoopers because it's just fictional characters. And I got
my seat and we talk about them and it doesn't
I'm not going to go to war with somebody over
this stuff. Did that in the twenty fifteen sixteen had
my time was never really that fun, and it's more
fun to about the podcasts and you know, bus balls
and have a good time there. But Deadline said the
movies projected at a one hundred million, so again massive
like swings there right of like box office theory. I
think this is like we think the loan could be
one forty high end one seventy. That's great, And then
Deadline you say, well it's projected at one hundred, which
again could be early on since number really doesn't mean
anything that would now that this is what we always
do right when we talk about you know, Scoopers and
sea tears and rumors, and let me pull up picking
me one second here, let me pull up, I turn
off my VPM. Yeah, let me pull up my theater
for Superman and see what's going on with it right now? Okay,
so the first showing on the biggest screen, let's take
a look here. I guess the second show going too,
so you know, pretty good. So like for us, that's
the the second showing on our biggest screen. It's called extreme,
it's imax. It's like almost the full middle is about
to be filled out. There nothing on the side. Let
me go to four that so it's a bit later.
But four pm that's a bit earlier. But that's a
bit harder because people are working school. But yeah, four
pm nothing there. Now here's my thing, right, four PM
had like eight seeds sold for massive, massive movies, even
the four PM slots. That's where it's like those seats
are gone or it's very filled. Right, So I don't
know what's gonna happen. There still the reviews to happen,
which they're confident they're dropping it at July. I think
it's social media Bargo is seventh and then the reviews
are eighth. So they're confident in it, but you never
know doubt nowadays, right like twenty days later they did
the classic what usually is a bad sign of Oh
they're holding their review for a full day ahead. That sucks,
we're in trouble. And then it's reviewed very well. I've
said this before where I think a lot of critics
and reviewers are going, that's gonna happen a lot, because
especially when they have stinkers, like there's nothing to benefit
the studios, like sometimes the word of mouth can help
the more than hurt them. So it's like even if
it's like them, well, no embargo or it's like no screening,
you're just gonna see what you can see it. I
could see that in the future happening. We're not there yet,
but so it's also the reviews and everything that depends
how that's gonna go gonna happen there if it were
to be one hundred million, let me take a look
and see. Oh I didn't look up that. Let's see,
k I'm trying to think of what because we did
this last week BAM an opening weekend box office, so
let's see here excuse a person that's just dying and
coffee into the ether. Let's see box office Mojo opening weekend,
domestic weekend was one thirty four okay, and then I
know this is a weird perspective, a brave New world
opening weekend box office let's see, so the weekend, let's go,
that was eight eight million. So let's just don't know
why you can use those two films. Maybe just because
one's the biggest the last I mean biggest DC release,
and then one's the biggest kind of Marvel lease as
far as recent and it's an example of it not
going well right, one hundred million opening I think is
is actually there's the other thing people will hate this one?
What's the Man of Steel? There you go, opening weekend.
Let's take a look at that. Sorry for some dead
air here to do. Okay, domestic weekend? Uh okay, So
we'd come in lower the Man of Steel. It's that's
all tough, right because Man is steel to me? Still,
you know that not exactly anything to do with the
Nolan trilogy. Have that hype of the Nolan trilogy coming off.
Superman has a lot to deal with as far as
you know, Superhero fatigue. Lots of other movies people choose
to stay home. And I've said this before that maybe
people don't care about Superman. Now at the same point,
one hundred million doesn't show that people don't care about Superman.
But we'd have to see what the final tally is.
Right for me, uh, that that would be? That would
be low to me. I think that the one thirty four, right,
that's what The Batman got, I think in the ballpark
of that. I can't remember if I gave a number
last week for my official prediction. I thought I said
would be kind of hm hmm. I think I say again,
I don't know why it's back to that, but I
think I kind of said I'm expecting that would be
similar to the The Batman maybe a little. I think
I said that, and then someone pointed out that it
could be higher because it's, you know, more of a
family warton movie. So God, what would be an official number.
I think I would have been comfortable with saying one's sixty.
Maybe I don't know, but my point is that one
hundred that's some dangerous territory there without us knowing how
the how the second and third weekend is gonna go obviously,
you hope that's a good movie. Word amouth and people
go back. But there's lots out. Fantastic four is just
around the corner, which you know, if Superman's coming in,
let's say it was a true hundred what's that four
coming in? That can't be good. I feel like that's
like close to the brand new world. I've said that before.
We're that forward. It's like, I don't know if people
care about Fantastic four. If people look at them as
like then agire, right, So let me see if there's
something else from this interview. Let's see, Uh yeah, no, nothing,
nothing more as well. I don't want to spoiler or
anything like that, so I'll get the conference back. So so, yeah,
one hundred billion to me, be disappointed because I feel
like that's tough though, because we tupples last week and
even the Jurassic World. I think this is like the
official tracking was like at eighty two one hundred, and
that's a lot lower than I was expecting for that
and a lot lower than some of those other franchise stuff.
So I'm curious to see what F four is going
to get when we get to more official and you
can't really predict it, right, You can't to extent, but
look in Minecraft, it was not predicted to beat Mario
and it did. That's where I'm still going on the
higher end of that. So I think I'm like a
if I I might forget in a couple of weeks
when I do our official predictions, but I'm confident somewhere
in the one fifty to one sixty window. To me,
that's where, well, I guess actually I think I said
lower than Minecraft, though, so I need to check that
out too. Minecraft opening weekend, let's see. No, I don't
want global, just a domestic nine fifty three one sixty two, okay,
And I don't think it's been Minecraft, just bigger ip
right now, culture movement. Let's see. So I'm in the window.
I think it's gonna beat the Batman, but it's not
gonna beat Minecraft. And I guess that's where I did
say one fifty cents in that bullpark, I'll say one
forty five ish to one fifty five ish. That's where
I'm feeling right now. If it bet Minecraft, that's that's fantastic,
right because you look at Minecraft obviously had a big
word mouth, and people want to go see it after
but nine fifty three pretty impressive, so we'll see, we'll
see what's happening. But yeah, like I said, one hundred million,
that would be like I said, that's only what twelve
million more than a brave new world that to me
wouldn't be great. Would have to depend on what the
legs were. But yeah, I digress. So yeah, let's talk
about quickly here iron Heart and yeah, like the Life
of Chuck here, wan do a longer review, but starting
to get later here because I went longer. Again, Always
thank you for people in the chat, because usually what
happens is I kind of no, okay the top skin,
you know, maybe half an hour, maybe forty minutes, But
you guys threw in great questions, so you guys may
go a little longer here, so for I will do
a longer one Charlie at some point, just not tonight,
because I got balls to wash, I got things I
gotta gotta upload this episode. Life of Chuck really really
good movie. Parts of the movie are special for me.
It's a movie that I was surprised because it was
in my top you know two anticipate of the year.
Once I heard about it, Like, okay, I cannot wait
planning in the whole crew. So I had very high expectations.
I will say, at first it didn't meet them or
anythink it, or at least I thought it didn't meet them,
because honestly, when I was done in the movie, I thought,
like on a letterbox, I was like, it's like a
three out of five. Some really great moments and great performances,
but I had some issues with certain story beats or
pacing of the movie. But then as I thought about
it and some of the big scenes stood out, I'm okay,
I think that's the four. But then I still said, like, okay,
I need to go rewatch this movie. There's more thoughts
I have on it, and don't get me wrong, I
already set it, but there are some variusnouncings. There's one
scene that now in retrospect, because the story's told in
a certain way that it's more funny than is scary,
but when this shift happens and you don't know what's
going on, it's pretty fucking frightening. To me. It was.
It was bowe and chilling, like one of my favorite,
like kind of scarier moments that have happened in a movie. Theater,
which Flanagan could do that right, because he's great that stuff.
But so there's like the high moments that I say, Okay,
I'll give it to four because like the filming behind it,
that for me is deserves a little bit extra love.
But as the days went on, I kept thinking about
it has a great story score. The Nowton Brothers who
did X ninety seven, has a great soundtrack, has very
unique way of telling the story and showing certain things,
especially from kind of some things that are revealed in
one act that go into another act, some highlight scenes.
But there's just some moments and speeches and things that
have just stuck with me and carry it. So I
edited my letterbox review to a four point five. I
don't know if it'll ever be a five, but it
could be. I need to rewatch. Just in the current stay,
I'm like, no, like, I think I still have some
issues here here and here, But I would not have
thought like it's a movie that continues to grow on you.
And I've said this before, I said on the letterbox review,
before this movie it's not just an instant Okay, I
like it, like I think it's a weird thing. I
feeling like, oh, there's this movie coming out and I
easily like it, Like there's no movie. I'm never going
into movies saying, Okay, this is gonna be the horseshit. Okay,
actually that's wrong, because I've definitely done other VANDAM movies.
But here's the I go in wanting to enjoy movies.
I go in wanting and hoping I'm gonna enjoy This
might not always happen. I might go and thing, that's
probably gonna be a good time. But at the same time,
I'm never just gonna pass movie or like in a
movie because it's like, well, I've decided I probably would
like this because X, Y and Z, because this actor
the story. So for me, it's like the idea of
movies that make you appreciate the small things in life,
little things in life, or sometimes the grand scale things,
whether it's just you know, dancing, you know, love life.
But movies like about time, like Cloud Atlas, Oh God,
what would be another good one? In there? Shit, everything everywhere,
everything ever all once. I know some people might like
be like, oh, what like now the third acts all
about that? It's been throughout I know there's lots of
multiverse shenanigans. But the third act is all about that,
right is appreciate the time you have and appreciate the
people in it. And that's where when that concept's done, well,
I love that is the good stuff right there. I
love that type movie and that's what this did. And
that's where for me, at first it didn't have the
impact because there's some weird stuff. But as the days
went on, I kept thinking about it, and uh, yeah,
it's a very different movie. At times, it is quite slow.
I'd say, if you're going because you're a big Tom
Hilson fan, expect very little of him. You know, some
big parts don't being wrong, But it's a multi fashion story,
which is it's very much more ensemble, I would say,
than just the lead guy, which obviously looks like that.
But now I get by the poster is the way
it hiss. So yeah, I would definitely check it out
if you're a fan of that type of stuff. And
then finally quickly, Ironheart is uh getting three episodes released
next week? Am I right there? Let me confirm? Yeah,
three next week. And then before it was kind of
like all over, I feel like there's something that said,
oh it's getting all three the same week like the
same day, and then it's being spaced out. But it
was confirm day that it's doing three to one week
and then three the other and obviously that has created
the conversation of if it's being buried or whatnot and
couldn't tell you you know, o'viou see for one hundred percent.
From my opinion, Uh, it's tough because if you want,
if everyone watched the show, it's oh, it's good, Like
why were they bearing this? You don't bear a good product.
I think they just worry that either people don't connect
to it or will think it's not a good product,
and they don't want to be attached to a losing
project again in a sense, right, because they've had a
lot of losers. Let's say they even Thunderbolts. Film wise great,
but success maybe a little lacking now, right, So I
think with this it's tough because we'd also heard some
c tier rumors of them liking what the end or
and continue in the future. I think that would be
really weird. Of every show from now on, which just
three episodes it's an odd number, would not like it
for the podcast because it's just a pain the ass
to review unless it's a you know, shorter episode type
of show. But I'm of two minds again what we
talked about before, like the conspiracy theoristmy, they get there
bearing the show and they just want to move past it.
Make you forget out tomorrow for a little bit until
the big stuff that you really want to see is
there and then this character can go and have a
noble death right or is it just a strategy? Is
it just hey and it worked out. We're trying this way.
We think that people won't stick with it for six weeks,
so we're gonna give it to them in two and
two and go from there and if it works, then
hopefully we get to see re regain or the show again,
whatever it may. But yeah, it's it's interesting. We don't
personally know what we're doing further reviews because the problem
is with the our original idea. It was, Kay, we
go reviewed the first three. Excuse me, We're gonna review
the first three, and then the week after we have Candiday,
and then the Wednesday after that candidate is Drastic World,
which we would be reviewing. So it's like, well, we
wouldn't we be able to review the episode till Thursday.
Let's just punt it the week after and do a double.
But now, oh boy, that that really got punted because
I just, yeah, I don't know what they're gonna do
going forward with Daredevil Vision Quest, I think is another
one that they're gonna just push out there and go, Okay,
let's just just you know, this exists, cool watch if
you want. If not, I think there's a lot of
companies that regret doing the streaming and regret putting a
big folks fishing to Marvel did put a massive focus
on it, right, So I can't say it's bearing, but
I can't say it's exactly good, you know, yeah like it?
I don't know. I can't. I will be able to
gauge is better when we do the show. But as
far as our reviews, we're not sure if we're going
to review the episodes one to three and then review
episodes four to six just at a later date because
we got Canaday and Jurassic World. Man, I thought every
someone else that week it's just a weekly geek or something.
Let's see here bread and butter. Oh okay, so stuff
could be moved. Stuff I don't want to move. But
We've also talked about just doing like a season review
and just all of us watching our own pace whenever
we're done that week, you know, after the Canaday weekend,
UH watch it, talk about it, so uh tvd if
people for some reason, not for some reason, because lots
of our audiences listeners are for Marvel. If you pull
up the feed and you don't see anything there after
the morning after Ironheart, not by mistake. We just maybe
have decided to do it at a later day. But
we'll see. So yeah, again, thank you to everyone in
the chat. Thank you to everyone that I guess just
man said a question many wasn't here your bastard? You're
hearing this bad If you're here in this bastard're hearing this,
Maddie said, you'd be here. But yeah, like I said,
this maybe the last tray I've told you for a
little bit. But you know, we'll get some more pantio
pots coming soon, so until then it'll not be boring.
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