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<v Speaker 1>And I just turned around and I call ass out

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<v Speaker 1>of there. I was done. I wasn't deal with them.

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<v Speaker 2>The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that turned me.

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<v Speaker 1>Away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on,

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<v Speaker 1>it turned and looked at us.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the things I remember the most, where

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<v Speaker 2>the eyes were going red. I see an orb of light.

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<v Speaker 1>It is just circling these steps.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it is waiting for me. And he begins to

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<v Speaker 2>tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically like, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree,

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<v Speaker 2>peeking around it, and that's where I saw the top of.

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<v Speaker 1>The muzzle, nose and the eyes. As soon as I

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<v Speaker 1>made eye contact with this thing, I don't like death.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Tenfoil Tells. I'm your host, Brandon and

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<v Speaker 2>I were joined by my guest Samantha. Samantha, thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>coming on here and talking to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you like to let the audience know a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit about yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So, I am a mom from Michigan and I

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<v Speaker 1>am a lifelong experiencer. I've had other worldly encounters since

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<v Speaker 1>I was born, and I was born and raised in

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<v Speaker 1>a poultry geist house in Lansing, Michigan, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>I've finally just published a book about everything that I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen and everything that I've witnessed and experienced just a

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<v Speaker 1>couple months ago, where I go through every experience that

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<v Speaker 1>I've had over the past thirty years. So yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>I've had. I've had experiences from from the poultry gist

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<v Speaker 1>activity to UFOs to out of body experiences and extrasensory perceptions.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, this is this is right in my right

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<v Speaker 1>in my ballpark. I love talking about this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're from Michigan. Have you been in Michigan your

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<v Speaker 2>whole life? Yep, you're not too far from I think

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<v Speaker 2>my dad. I don't think it was Lancing, but originally

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<v Speaker 2>I think he was in Jackson when he was born

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<v Speaker 2>and then they moved to Florida, But yeah, he was

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<v Speaker 2>from up in that area a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, I know where that is. I'm at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just a couple hours north of Lancing, Okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>the house I grew up in was in Lancing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I would like to you wrote a book,

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<v Speaker 2>and before we kind of like the topics of your book.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to spoil it for anyone that would

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<v Speaker 2>want to look into the book, But is there a

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<v Speaker 2>few things that you experienced when you were younger they

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<v Speaker 2>kind of led you to on this path of wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to write about it, Like, what were some of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that set off this whole chain of events for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So the house I was born in, it was

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<v Speaker 1>I call it the Briton House because Britain was the

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<v Speaker 1>name of the street, so that's just kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>we call it. And it was built in nineteen twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three in an old neighborhood in Lansing, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>had just living there was like constant experience after experience.

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<v Speaker 1>But my first ever encounter, my first memory actually was

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<v Speaker 1>an out of body experience. That was an encounter with

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<v Speaker 1>three golden beings. And I was only about it was

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<v Speaker 1>before I could speak, so I was maybe between one

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<v Speaker 1>and two years old, and what I remember was being

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<v Speaker 1>out of body at the top of the staircase and

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<v Speaker 1>having a being to my left and one to my right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then looking down the staircase there was a third

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<v Speaker 1>one at the bottom of the staircase looking up at us,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were they were floating, and they were these transparent,

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<v Speaker 1>like they kind of looked like your typical chairub angel

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<v Speaker 1>being just a little bit different, and they were. They

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<v Speaker 1>were transparent, but all of their details were outlined in

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<v Speaker 1>gold glitter, and so it looked like they were very detailed,

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<v Speaker 1>and it looked like they were just drawn so detailed

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<v Speaker 1>with gold. And they spoke telepathically to me, and they

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<v Speaker 1>also expressed their their emotions and their intention and what

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<v Speaker 1>they were feeling and what they what they were asking

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<v Speaker 1>of me. And I feel like they also they also

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<v Speaker 1>transferred some of their abilities and yeah, through this telepathic

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<v Speaker 1>bridge that was between me and all three of them.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I was out of body during this experience,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember how heightened it was being in the other

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<v Speaker 1>realm and being in my eternal body in their presence,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like it was it was such a

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<v Speaker 1>it was such an incredible experience, and it was such

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was it opened the door. So it

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<v Speaker 1>like so wide open for these things for me for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of my life. And I call it it's

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<v Speaker 1>the first chapter in my book where I talk about this,

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<v Speaker 1>because I kind of go go like in chronological order

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<v Speaker 1>of all my experiences, and I call it Summoned for initiation,

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like I was summoned out of body

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<v Speaker 1>by these beings for this initiation into the other realms

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<v Speaker 1>and into this connection with the other side. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I was I was. I was standing between these two

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<v Speaker 1>beings at the top of the staircase, and they started

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<v Speaker 1>encouraging me to lift up off of the ground and levitate.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just had this this knowing within me of

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what to do and how to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>almost as if I was already familiar with the ability,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe it was because they transferred it to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had that understanding. But I used the energy

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<v Speaker 1>within myself and I pulled it out and I interacted

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<v Speaker 1>my own energy with the energies that were that were

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<v Speaker 1>flowing all around me. And so I was in like

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<v Speaker 1>this ocean of of these currents that were that were

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<v Speaker 1>like they had sound and they had energy, and they

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<v Speaker 1>had a tone and they had and I could almost

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<v Speaker 1>see some of them the light from them. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like you could see all of your senses were seeing

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<v Speaker 1>all of these things at once. And so I interacted that.

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<v Speaker 1>I used my own energy to interact with the field

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<v Speaker 1>around me to move up and down and left and right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so to like lift up through these currents that

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<v Speaker 1>were around me. It's really really hard to explain how

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<v Speaker 1>I did this with words, because it's so beyond words

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<v Speaker 1>how this happened. But basically I lifted off of the

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<v Speaker 1>ground and I was hovering then between the two and

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<v Speaker 1>then they told me to let you know, it's time

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<v Speaker 1>to go down the staircase. Now let's go down, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I leaned forward and I started floating down the staircase,

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<v Speaker 1>and they followed me all the way down. One was

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<v Speaker 1>on my left side, one was on my right side.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can still see the image or the like

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<v Speaker 1>the basically the the visuals of watching my feet pass

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<v Speaker 1>over the steps as I'm floating down the stairs and

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<v Speaker 1>having the steps like like as I'm floating down and

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<v Speaker 1>watching them pass beneath my feet. And so when I

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<v Speaker 1>get to the bottom and meet the third angel at

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom, then I'm surrounded by all three of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're blasting me with this amazing energy. They were celebrating,

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<v Speaker 1>and they weren't even using their faces like facial expressions

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<v Speaker 1>to let me know that they were happy or celebrating,

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<v Speaker 1>because they just had like these kind of like straight

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<v Speaker 1>kind looks on their faces, so they didn't use their

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<v Speaker 1>face to express themselves. They it was from the energy

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<v Speaker 1>that they were filling my being with. That's how I

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<v Speaker 1>knew that they were celebrating and that they were proud

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<v Speaker 1>of me, and that they they were excited. So that

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<v Speaker 1>was that was my first memory. That was my first

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<v Speaker 1>ever experience of my life, and it I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what I would do without it, because it's like I

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<v Speaker 1>had their presence with me growing up in that haunted

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<v Speaker 1>house that had so many malicious and dark spirits that

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<v Speaker 1>I encountered day at night, and I know that I

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<v Speaker 1>was protected by not only God, but many guardians and

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<v Speaker 1>other worldly beings that came to protect me and guide me.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were deaf one of them or three of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But something that I realized as I was like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like I always knew it, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really think too hard on it until I started writing

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<v Speaker 1>my book a couple of years ago, that during this encounter,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was out of body, even though my physical

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<v Speaker 1>body was a toddler, in that heightened state, like in

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<v Speaker 1>my higher self's body, I had the mindset that I

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<v Speaker 1>have now as an adult, like I wasn't restricted my

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<v Speaker 1>my awareness and my consciousness and my my mindset wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>restricted by the physical world brain of a toddler because

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<v Speaker 1>I was out of it. And yeah, that's that's that

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty interesting to think about too, because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really Yeah, I didn't really come to that conclusion, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess until recently, like, Yeah, I wasn't. I didn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a child at all. I felt like I do

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<v Speaker 1>right now. So that was my first experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Your first experience is very reminiscent to a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>other people that I spoke to. Really, they had mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>before that they were levitated and they were brought down

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<v Speaker 2>the stairs and the similarities like that. It makes me

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<v Speaker 2>wonder how often is this one of the characteristics of

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<v Speaker 2>these types of experiences, because I think you're like, now

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<v Speaker 2>the third person that I've interviewed over the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years that have specifically mentioned like the telepathic conversation

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<v Speaker 2>of them telling them that like lifts them up levitating

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<v Speaker 2>them down. Wow, it's a It makes me wonder, like,

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<v Speaker 2>what what do you think these things were? Because when

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<v Speaker 2>I've talked to other people they thought they were aliens.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you see them as that or do you see

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<v Speaker 2>them as like a spiritual guardian.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely knew, just as an understanding, that they were

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<v Speaker 1>sent by something greater, and I know that they were

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<v Speaker 1>inner dimensional or you could use the word spiritual. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I know that if I was stuck in the

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<v Speaker 1>physical realm during the like, I probably wouldn't have been

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<v Speaker 1>able to visualize their form because they were on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they were in that other realm or that higher dimension.

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<v Speaker 1>So since I was out of body and able to

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<v Speaker 1>access the visuals of you know, of that that height

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<v Speaker 1>in place, I was able to interact with them and

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<v Speaker 1>have that encounter. But yeah, I wouldn't for that those

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<v Speaker 1>specific beings, I wouldn't use the word alien. I have

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<v Speaker 1>encountered things that would fit that bill, but these ones

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<v Speaker 1>were more like like teachers or guardians.

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<v Speaker 2>The one person that I interviewed, he originally thought they

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<v Speaker 2>were ghosts and then he'd saw I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>from a communion, the cover of communions what it was

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<v Speaker 2>he saw the alien on that when he was a child,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he realized that these things weren't ghosts, they

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<v Speaker 2>were beans.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I've heard that so much where someone will specifically

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<v Speaker 1>Whitley's Communion cover where someone will see that and they

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<v Speaker 1>just have these flashbacks or the realization like that guy had.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I wow, I have I have seen the

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<v Speaker 1>gray type of beings as well, and it is it

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<v Speaker 1>definitely does give you that like that feeling, like you

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<v Speaker 1>know that you've seen that, and that's really wild that

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<v Speaker 1>those beings that that did that with him were those

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<v Speaker 1>types of beings or that that was that was their form.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do question whether these beings whether that was

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<v Speaker 1>their true form, because I know that things can, these

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<v Speaker 1>these interdimensional beings, and and from my experience there is many, many,

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<v Speaker 1>many different different beings other than humans that are in

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<v Speaker 1>these other realms and other dimensions and that can also

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<v Speaker 1>step into the physical realm. But sorry, I'm just lost

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<v Speaker 1>my and oh man, I'm sorry I was saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh, what was I what was I.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying that the beings like when people have recognized them

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<v Speaker 2>from his stuff? And then like, how you to you've

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<v Speaker 1>It went off, Yeah, okay, I got it now, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>That they can these interdimensional beings can they can? They

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<v Speaker 1>can show themselves as what they kind of like to

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<v Speaker 1>show themselves as as of like they can they can

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<v Speaker 1>project their form as kind of what would fit the

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<v Speaker 1>mind of the experiencer or the witness. And I've also

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<v Speaker 1>heard of you know, people, you know, maybe groups of

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<v Speaker 1>see something different. So I, yeah, it just it makes

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<v Speaker 1>me question, you know, some of the encounters I've had

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<v Speaker 1>throughout my life, was the form that I was shown

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<v Speaker 1>their true form or was that just something that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I've often wondered, and this is gets brought up a

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<v Speaker 2>lot on different episodes, But I feel like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of this stuff is all connected one way or the other.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe when people see something, it's unique to them

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<v Speaker 2>in the sense of it's what they show the represent

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<v Speaker 2>themselves as, and our mind interprets it the best way

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<v Speaker 2>that we can. And obviously, when people experience things and

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<v Speaker 2>they question stuff that makes no sense, like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if that's just because they want us to keep

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<v Speaker 2>questioning this stuff. They want us to look into it,

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<v Speaker 2>so they give us things that don't make any sort

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<v Speaker 2>of sense, because it continues to add to the mystery,

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<v Speaker 2>like are we not supposed to find out all the answers,

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<v Speaker 2>so they continuously lead of us breadcrumbs. But if you

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<v Speaker 2>go through history back in hundreds of years ago, they

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<v Speaker 2>used to talk about fairy abductions. They talked about the

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<v Speaker 2>faithfolk and everything. Well, nowadays we have alien abductions and

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<v Speaker 2>what we say where aliens are now all of a

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<v Speaker 2>sudden interdimensional mm hmm. So what if the fairies were

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<v Speaker 2>the things that now we call What if it's all

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing. It's just as we evolve and like

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<v Speaker 2>become more science techie, these things have also been adapting

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<v Speaker 2>to so they try and just adapt as we adapt.

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<v Speaker 2>So they only they represent whatever they think our brains

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've I've heard that theory before, and I do

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<v Speaker 1>think that it applies to a lot of what people witness.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've I love, I love getting into this story

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<v Speaker 1>stories that that were recorded hundreds of years ago or

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of years ago with all these sorts of beings,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you tell you, you know, you get into

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<v Speaker 1>the fay folk and the little people and all of

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<v Speaker 1>these things that people really saw and they recorded what

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<v Speaker 1>they actually saw. You know, during the time of when

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<v Speaker 1>these things were recorded and written down, they weren't joking,

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't making up fiction. You know, they were actually

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<v Speaker 1>recording things that they really saw. And it does make

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<v Speaker 1>you wonder are they Are they the same? And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that I think that some of it is. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, I think about how many different

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<v Speaker 1>types of things that I've seen, and how I felt

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<v Speaker 1>that they were different from one another, like in their

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<v Speaker 1>actual nature. And I know that people even today have

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<v Speaker 1>seen little people, or have seen what they would explain

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<v Speaker 1>as a fairy or you know, all sorts of different things.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I've seen a little old dwarf woman that

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<v Speaker 1>might be explained as like a type of fay being,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you were talking a few hundred years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so I think some of it is. But

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<v Speaker 1>I also think that I do think that some of

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<v Speaker 1>these beings are different in nature.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think every single one is the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there are different variations of them. But I

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<v Speaker 2>still think a lot of it may come from the

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<v Speaker 2>same I don't know, I don't want to say reality,

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<v Speaker 2>but the same plane of existence. I guess wherever they're from,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they all kind of come from that real I.

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<v Speaker 1>Agree, Yeah, And it's like you said, it's all connected.

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<v Speaker 1>I totally agree with that. I think that because I

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<v Speaker 1>know that sometimes people like to they like to group

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<v Speaker 1>these things separately, like the Bigfoot encounters are separate from

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<v Speaker 1>the UFO encounters, and and they're separate from the paranormal activity,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're separate from out of body experiences. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>all from this same realm. It's all from this. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like all of these things that are non physical that

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<v Speaker 1>people experience is the real nature, the true nature of reality,

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<v Speaker 1>just screaming at us like this is what These are

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<v Speaker 1>the things that surround us everywhere, and it comes that

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<v Speaker 1>there's just there's so much around us at all times,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's so many others and yeah, it's it all

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of these beings are interdimensional. And honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you know, because we have we don't

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<v Speaker 1>just have this physical force. We also have a second body,

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<v Speaker 1>or a spiritual body, or an astrabody or an eternal body,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever someone you know would like to call it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I've also heard that we have a third body, depending

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<v Speaker 1>on you know, the culture that you're that you're looking at. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it's I believe it's Hindu culture. That UH

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<v Speaker 1>recognize as a third body. And so I really do

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<v Speaker 1>believe that humans are also inner dimensional beings, but that

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<v Speaker 1>we have forgotten who we are, and we've forgotten our abilities,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have slowly but surely walked away from true nature.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that now is the time for us

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of turn that around and step back into

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<v Speaker 1>our identity so that we we can do the things

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<v Speaker 1>that we're really capable of.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, I think a lot of our ways are locked off.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if that was done intentionally or not,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think there's a lot more that we are

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<v Speaker 2>capable of as a human with our mind that for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever reason, we just are not in tune with it

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<v Speaker 2>as we used to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I think that. I think so too,

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<v Speaker 1>I think from it being yeah, And like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>not sure if it's done intentionally, like if there was

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<v Speaker 1>an out outside source that that did that to us,

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<v Speaker 1>or if it was something that we kind of we

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<v Speaker 1>did to ourselves somehow, But I know that all of

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<v Speaker 1>these things still lie dormant within us, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's really the question is, you know, how do we

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<v Speaker 1>reactivate these things?

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know that I know that being exposed to

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<v Speaker 1>other worldly beings and presences and exposed to other realms

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<v Speaker 1>and having conscious experiences on the other side, does seem

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<v Speaker 1>to activate things that were lying dormant.

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<v Speaker 2>What are some of the other things you've experienced, because

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<v Speaker 2>you said you've wrote about everything you've experienced within like

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<v Speaker 2>the last thirty years, So is there anything else that

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<v Speaker 2>you think would be interesting for the listeners that would

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<v Speaker 2>find appealing to the sense that maybe they would want

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<v Speaker 2>to check out the rest of your book, because we

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of scratched the surface on just what got you,

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<v Speaker 2>like your first experience, and that first experience is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of one of those experiences that sets the whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>up to where, I don't want to say, like the

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<v Speaker 2>sense of it set it up to like for more

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<v Speaker 2>interesting things like that, but like the floating ones that

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<v Speaker 2>are the ones that always get to me, Like if

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<v Speaker 2>your body is floating through the air, it's like that's

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<v Speaker 2>something you don't forget.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely not. Yeah, so I'll I'll get into the

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<v Speaker 1>house I grew up in a little bit, so because

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<v Speaker 1>that was like that was kind of like the things

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<v Speaker 1>that that kind of came along soon after that encounter

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<v Speaker 1>that first encounter because I had I had experiences in

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<v Speaker 1>this Poultrygeist house ever since I can remember, as far

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<v Speaker 1>back as my memory takes me, and I know that

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<v Speaker 1>things were happening there even before I was born, because

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<v Speaker 1>I got in touch with a woman that lived there

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<v Speaker 1>in the eighties that had very similar encounters as well,

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<v Speaker 1>So I know. I don't know if it's something to

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<v Speaker 1>do with the land the house is built on, or

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<v Speaker 1>if things were done there, you know, back in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the early nineteen hundreds that kind of brought on

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<v Speaker 1>some of this activity, or if it's both. My guess

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<v Speaker 1>is it's both. But some things that would happen there

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<v Speaker 1>on a regular basis growing up, and this was this

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<v Speaker 1>was day and night. This is not like this is

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<v Speaker 1>not like I would have an experience, you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>day and then like maybe six months later, something else

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<v Speaker 1>weird would happen. This was like every day, every night,

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<v Speaker 1>struggling like make it through to the next hour, to

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<v Speaker 1>the next day, make it through the night, just so

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<v Speaker 1>you could do it again, just so you can. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just it was constant. And so there were these

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<v Speaker 1>these heavy boot stomps that would follow above my head

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. There was we would see apparitions and

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<v Speaker 1>hear voices, and there was also there was also something.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was an actual entity or

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<v Speaker 1>if it was a strange I mean, my guess is

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<v Speaker 1>it was an entity, but it was some strange force

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<v Speaker 1>that when and this happened to me countless times growing

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<v Speaker 1>up at the Briton House, I would take those first

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<v Speaker 1>few steps down the stairs. So I was upstairs on

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<v Speaker 1>take those first few steps down the and then there

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<v Speaker 1>was this flat landing that would that the staircase would

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<v Speaker 1>turn and go the rest of the way down, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the rest of the way down was maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like seventeen eighteen more steps, and as soon as you

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<v Speaker 1>at a really high speed. And my and it's crazy

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<v Speaker 1>because my legs in my arms would all be straight

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<v Speaker 1>up in the air and I was just barely hitting

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<v Speaker 1>the center of my back on each step on the

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<v Speaker 1>way down until I hit the bottom. And I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>trip and I wouldn't slip or fall nothing. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just lifted and shot down, and then when I hit

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom, then I wasn't able to take an air

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<v Speaker 1>into my lungs. I actually couldn't inhale, And so it

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<v Speaker 1>was I would sit there and I would pray that

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<v Speaker 1>I would be able to breathe in time before I suffocated,

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<v Speaker 1>and the air was allowed to come back into my

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<v Speaker 1>lungs every single time, right on time, right before I

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<v Speaker 1>started to feel like it was getting dangerous that I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't breathe. And so this happened to me many many

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<v Speaker 1>times living there. It also happened to my brother, and

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<v Speaker 1>it happened to the residents that lived there before us.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I was writing, I actually got into contact

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<v Speaker 1>with the woman that lived there the decade before me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I found out that this happening to her and

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<v Speaker 1>her sister getting lifted and shot down the staircase and

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<v Speaker 1>getting hurt on the steps like that, Well, just they're back.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually the same thing would happen to them, were the

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<v Speaker 1>center of their back was just barely smacking the steps

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<v Speaker 1>as they're a shot all the way down. And they

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<v Speaker 1>were the reason that the steps were carpeted when I

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<v Speaker 1>was there, because thankfully the steps were carpeted when this

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<v Speaker 1>happened to me in the nineties and into the early

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<v Speaker 1>two thousands, but for her they were bear would And

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<v Speaker 1>so I when I when I heard that, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, I couldn't even imagine how much that

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<v Speaker 1>hurt to have your back slam. The bear would all

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00:28:09.319 --> 00:28:13.599
<v Speaker 1>the way down the steps all the time. And the

425
00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:17.640
<v Speaker 1>same thing is everyone who experienced this, they never tripped

426
00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:22.519
<v Speaker 1>or fell. They were actually lifted and then shot. So

427
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.759
<v Speaker 1>that's something that that happened on a regular living there.

428
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:34.880
<v Speaker 1>And then there was the attic doorway was in the

429
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:38.839
<v Speaker 1>only bathroom in the house, So down the hallway from

430
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:43.279
<v Speaker 1>the bedrooms that was the bathroom on the second floor,

431
00:28:43.519 --> 00:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>and across from the toilet and the sink was the

432
00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>attic door. And the attic staircase ran up against the

433
00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:55.119
<v Speaker 1>wall in the bathroom to go up into the attic

434
00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:59.839
<v Speaker 1>and the door. Now that door, that original door, is

435
00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:02.119
<v Speaker 1>no longer there. I know that because I'm in contact

436
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:06.319
<v Speaker 1>with the current residence. But the door, the doors in

437
00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:09.599
<v Speaker 1>the Brinton House were like those old wooden doors were

438
00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:13.039
<v Speaker 1>like they had the like the dark brass kind of

439
00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:15.839
<v Speaker 1>like flat circular handles, and they had the rectangle of

440
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>the brass behind it, and they had like the skeleton

441
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:25.680
<v Speaker 1>keyhole underneath the handle, and so we would open the

442
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:29.119
<v Speaker 1>door the attic door, and inside of the door were

443
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:33.160
<v Speaker 1>hundreds of names that were written and carved into the

444
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:37.799
<v Speaker 1>doorway from top to bottom, and then they actually were

445
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:40.240
<v Speaker 1>put on the wall a little bit up into the

446
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:42.400
<v Speaker 1>attic as if they couldn't all fit on the door.

447
00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:44.880
<v Speaker 1>And I've to this day I have no idea the

448
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:47.000
<v Speaker 1>purpose of that, but it felt like it was a

449
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:50.839
<v Speaker 1>really it was kind of really eerie creepy thing that

450
00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:54.559
<v Speaker 1>they were there like for some type of dark purpose.

451
00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:00.000
<v Speaker 1>And then the attic staircase was like this skinny little

452
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.079
<v Speaker 1>staircase where only one person could really fit going up

453
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>at once. But anyway, so a lot of the time

454
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:10.359
<v Speaker 1>when you went to the bathroom at night, the footsteps

455
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:12.480
<v Speaker 1>that I feel like it was probably the same presence

456
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:17.200
<v Speaker 1>that followed above my head would come and walk or

457
00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>stomp sometimes all the way down the steps and then

458
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:21.559
<v Speaker 1>stop on the other side of the attic door when

459
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:25.480
<v Speaker 1>you're going to the bathroom. And there's one time that

460
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I will never forget when it was one night that

461
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>I was going to the bathroom after it was dark

462
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>and after everyone went to bed. My mom was sleeping,

463
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:38.640
<v Speaker 1>my brother was sleeping, and I didn't fall asleep for

464
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:39.960
<v Speaker 1>a while, and I ended up having to go to

465
00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the bathroom. So I built up the courage to go

466
00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:46.720
<v Speaker 1>in there, and I was sitting down and all of

467
00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, the stomps come crashing down the staircase, and

468
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was like it was like the most

469
00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:59.599
<v Speaker 1>obnoxious this entity ever did it, and it just stopped

470
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:03.839
<v Speaker 1>right at the bottom, and I was just for a minute,

471
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:07.519
<v Speaker 1>I was petrified. I was just trying to breathe and

472
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:12.119
<v Speaker 1>thinking that this the attic doorway is going to swing open.

473
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Something is I know, you know, something is on the

474
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:17.279
<v Speaker 1>other side of the door right now, and it's staring

475
00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:21.079
<v Speaker 1>at me and I can feel its presence, and so

476
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:25.559
<v Speaker 1>I got I started getting like getting ready to get

477
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>out of there as fast as I could. But before

478
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I can leave the bathroom, it stomped back up the

479
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>staircase and it was just it With every step, it

480
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:38.440
<v Speaker 1>crashed its foot as hard as it possibly could, and

481
00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:41.519
<v Speaker 1>it just slammed its way up the staircase and went

482
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:43.559
<v Speaker 1>back up into the attic and I just ran to

483
00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:46.200
<v Speaker 1>my room and shut the door, and it was not

484
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:49.480
<v Speaker 1>easy getting to sleep the night, no doubt it.

485
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:57.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with this making noise and everything else, Like, what

486
00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:00.920
<v Speaker 2>do you think it could have been as a is

487
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:02.759
<v Speaker 2>it right? Like when it comes to stuff that's like

488
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:09.559
<v Speaker 2>paranormal in a sense, like a spiritual and even like

489
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:14.519
<v Speaker 2>to an extent when people say bigfoot, are these spiritual

490
00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:16.680
<v Speaker 2>type things, they still lease some sort of a physical

491
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:20.960
<v Speaker 2>that they make noise, they leave a footprint, Like if

492
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:23.839
<v Speaker 2>this thing's making noise, ites have to interact with the

493
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:26.680
<v Speaker 2>surrounding areas, so therefore it has to have some sort

494
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:29.359
<v Speaker 2>of physical manifestation.

495
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know that these that other other beings or

496
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:45.839
<v Speaker 1>spirits are they can all interact and affect the physical

497
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>realm or kind of slightly manifest into the physical realm

498
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:56.480
<v Speaker 1>just enough to make noise or speak or maybe show

499
00:32:56.519 --> 00:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>themselves just slightly, you know, or if someone sees like

500
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:02.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, the mist of an apparition or something like that.

501
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:10.079
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, so they they can. They can, definitely. It

502
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:12.799
<v Speaker 1>is it is interesting to think like how they do it,

503
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:17.039
<v Speaker 1>but I know that they do that. They that they're

504
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>on there, they're in the other realm, and that's kind

505
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:22.119
<v Speaker 1>of where they're residing like we are. Residing in this realm,

506
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:28.359
<v Speaker 1>but that they're able to kind of crossover, whether it's

507
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:30.799
<v Speaker 1>just a little bit just enough so that we hear them,

508
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:34.720
<v Speaker 1>or whether it's complete, like total crossover where we see

509
00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:38.559
<v Speaker 1>their full form and where we can touch them, or

510
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:43.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, it is. It is really wild to

511
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>think about that, the fact that that that happens.

512
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:54.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how I'd ever go to sleep if

513
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I was hearing all that noise.

514
00:33:55.440 --> 00:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Again, it was, it was, It was definitely. It was

515
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:05.480
<v Speaker 1>a struggle. I mean there was I I always shut

516
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:08.239
<v Speaker 1>my door at night as I was growing up, just

517
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:10.079
<v Speaker 1>so I wouldn't have to listen to the things that

518
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:12.599
<v Speaker 1>happened outside of my room and above my room in

519
00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:15.840
<v Speaker 1>the attic, because that just added to, you know, the

520
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:18.760
<v Speaker 1>things that I was able to hear and sense. So

521
00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:20.760
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I kind of at least limited it

522
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:24.920
<v Speaker 1>to my bedroom, and I fell asleep at the light

523
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:27.760
<v Speaker 1>on and kept the light on all night countless times

524
00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>throughout my childhood because it at least it made it

525
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:33.239
<v Speaker 1>feel like it was daytime, and at least I was

526
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:35.800
<v Speaker 1>a little bit had a little bit more comfort than

527
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I would have it was totally dark, But I mean,

528
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:41.800
<v Speaker 1>there were times when things would come and sit on

529
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:43.599
<v Speaker 1>the end of my bed, and I would see the comforter,

530
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, squashed down at the at the end of

531
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:49.559
<v Speaker 1>my bed where I sent this presence come in. And

532
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:55.199
<v Speaker 1>there were there was there were a lot of times

533
00:34:55.239 --> 00:35:00.559
<v Speaker 1>when I I sat out on the roof right next

534
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:03.159
<v Speaker 1>to my bedroom because I had one window that faced

535
00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:05.559
<v Speaker 1>the street, and then I had another window that faced

536
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:07.800
<v Speaker 1>the roof, and it was kind of like you could

537
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:09.960
<v Speaker 1>step right down into the roof that was over the

538
00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:13.960
<v Speaker 1>porch right out out of my bedroom. And so I

539
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:16.239
<v Speaker 1>sat out there a lot just to kind of clear

540
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:19.800
<v Speaker 1>my head. But the crazy thing is I so I

541
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:24.360
<v Speaker 1>got so I got so tuned to sensing these things

542
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:27.239
<v Speaker 1>without seeing or hearing them. I could sense when something

543
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:31.599
<v Speaker 1>was coming into the room or or approaching me before

544
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I before it manifested as you know, something I could

545
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:39.039
<v Speaker 1>see or sound or anything like that. And so there

546
00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:42.639
<v Speaker 1>were actually times where I would sit on the porch

547
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:46.400
<v Speaker 1>roof just outside of my bedroom window and I would

548
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:50.599
<v Speaker 1>sense something come across my room and I had my

549
00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:52.800
<v Speaker 1>back to the window, and I would sense it come

550
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:54.639
<v Speaker 1>all the way to the window, and I sense I

551
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:57.519
<v Speaker 1>would sense its presence just very heavy just staring right

552
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:01.199
<v Speaker 1>at me and some of the things in the house,

553
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:03.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, they had the strength and the ability to

554
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:06.159
<v Speaker 1>lift me and launch me down the staircase. And so

555
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I actually kept a book in the in the window

556
00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>so that it wouldn't shut because those old windows, if

557
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.719
<v Speaker 1>you let it shut from the outside, you couldn't get

558
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:18.599
<v Speaker 1>it back open, and so I had to leave it

559
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:21.079
<v Speaker 1>cracked otherwise I wouldn't be able to get back in

560
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the house. And so I always had a book with

561
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:26.679
<v Speaker 1>me that I had that actually held to the entire time.

562
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't let the book go because I was afraid

563
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:32.079
<v Speaker 1>that something was going to pull it out so that

564
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:35.159
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't come back in. And so yeah, so I

565
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:38.440
<v Speaker 1>would always hold the book extra tight when I felt

566
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:41.559
<v Speaker 1>something come up behind me, and I knew that a

567
00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:44.320
<v Speaker 1>presence was there right at the window inside the house

568
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:47.280
<v Speaker 1>when I was trying to get some air and escape

569
00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:47.760
<v Speaker 1>a little bit.

570
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:52.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm reading through the original email that you sent me,

571
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:55.159
<v Speaker 2>and the one thing that I really want to discuss

572
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:58.159
<v Speaker 2>before we wrap things up here in a little bit

573
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:03.639
<v Speaker 2>you'd mention and you were taken to a cube shaped UFO.

574
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:08.679
<v Speaker 2>I would like to know a little bit more about

575
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:13.400
<v Speaker 2>this cube shaped UFO because I haven't recorded the episode,

576
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:17.599
<v Speaker 2>but I know someone that has seen something like this,

577
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:20.639
<v Speaker 2>but it's not something you hear very often.

578
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:27.960
<v Speaker 1>It's not, and I would love to I can't wait

579
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.719
<v Speaker 1>to hear there what they've seen too, because it's it's

580
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:34.840
<v Speaker 1>not something that I've ran into very often either. Actually,

581
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:40.159
<v Speaker 1>the first person I spoke to about this, like over

582
00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:44.880
<v Speaker 1>the phone was was I about a month ago, and

583
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:47.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm waiting for this podcast episode to get released, hopefully

584
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:51.079
<v Speaker 1>next week or the week after is I was on

585
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:57.840
<v Speaker 1>with Whitley Strieber, and he also talked about encountering a

586
00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:04.039
<v Speaker 1>cube shaped UFO several times throughout his life. And so

587
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I know that other people have seen it, but it's like,

588
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:12.280
<v Speaker 1>I know, you hear about like the disk or the

589
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:15.719
<v Speaker 1>triangular shaped a lot or the tic tac shape, but

590
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:18.840
<v Speaker 1>the cube shaped is like is not really something that

591
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:26.000
<v Speaker 1>is as heard of. So so yeah, this encounter, it

592
00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:28.599
<v Speaker 1>happened when I was about six or seven years old,

593
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:31.280
<v Speaker 1>and I was laying in bed one night at the

594
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Briton house and I was awake still. I was just

595
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:36.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of I had my eyes open and I was

596
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:38.639
<v Speaker 1>just kind of trying to get sleepy and I had

597
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:40.920
<v Speaker 1>my door shut and I did have the lights off

598
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:43.800
<v Speaker 1>that night, and I remember just kind of like looking

599
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:47.039
<v Speaker 1>at the moonlight that was shining through the blinds on

600
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:50.719
<v Speaker 1>my wall, and I was just just laying there thinking,

601
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:55.960
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, I felt, I felt a

602
00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:58.719
<v Speaker 1>presence come near me, and I knew that I was

603
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:06.400
<v Speaker 1>not alone. And then these two angelic beings manifested above

604
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:10.719
<v Speaker 1>me when I was laying there in bed, and they

605
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:16.199
<v Speaker 1>looked like the They were like these women with big wings,

606
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:20.519
<v Speaker 1>and they had these white gowns on and they just

607
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:24.159
<v Speaker 1>they were just looking at me. And then what they

608
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:27.599
<v Speaker 1>did was they reached out and they put their hands

609
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:31.320
<v Speaker 1>underneath me, and then they pulled me up, but they

610
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:35.800
<v Speaker 1>pulled my spiritual body out from my physical body. So

611
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:40.719
<v Speaker 1>they separated me and I felt myself like pop out

612
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:46.039
<v Speaker 1>of my physical body. And when I did, and I

613
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:49.920
<v Speaker 1>had felt I had felt this freedom so many times

614
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:52.920
<v Speaker 1>before that and after that, but for some this was

615
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:55.559
<v Speaker 1>just such a powerful experience, maybe because I was also

616
00:39:55.679 --> 00:40:02.280
<v Speaker 1>in their presence, But that that place that I entered

617
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:07.920
<v Speaker 1>into fully that was home. And as soon as I

618
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:11.559
<v Speaker 1>was out, and I watched my physical body lay there

619
00:40:11.559 --> 00:40:15.159
<v Speaker 1>in bed as I was lifted up higher into the air,

620
00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:19.119
<v Speaker 1>and the physical world was at that point it was

621
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:23.039
<v Speaker 1>a dream, it was a memory. And so they lifted

622
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:27.119
<v Speaker 1>me through the ceiling and through the roof of the house,

623
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and they started carrying me through the sky, and we

624
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:37.599
<v Speaker 1>were going higher and higher in the night sky, and

625
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:40.719
<v Speaker 1>I and we started going through some clouds, and then

626
00:40:41.559 --> 00:40:43.960
<v Speaker 1>we went through this break in the clouds and off

627
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>in the distance, up a little bit higher was this

628
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:52.360
<v Speaker 1>floating cube, and it was probably the size of a house,

629
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:56.679
<v Speaker 1>but it was just it was just stationary in the clouds,

630
00:40:56.840 --> 00:40:59.440
<v Speaker 1>and it was like this dark gray, maybe with a

631
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:01.000
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a tint of blue in it, like

632
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:06.679
<v Speaker 1>a dark steel blue. And it had no signs of propulsion,

633
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:09.760
<v Speaker 1>It had no signs of an engine or fuel. It

634
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:13.480
<v Speaker 1>had no sound. And so when we got up to it,

635
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:18.199
<v Speaker 1>when we got close enough the side of it that

636
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:20.880
<v Speaker 1>we were facing, it opened up so that we can

637
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:23.760
<v Speaker 1>enter in. But it wasn't like a doorway where it

638
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:27.440
<v Speaker 1>would where we know a doorway would open. The entire

639
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:32.039
<v Speaker 1>side of this cube lowered its density so that we

640
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:36.519
<v Speaker 1>could pass through it, and so we passed through the wall,

641
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:40.960
<v Speaker 1>and then after passing through its density was regained it.

642
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:44.239
<v Speaker 1>It came back to the solid structure that it was

643
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:49.559
<v Speaker 1>just a second ago. And so inside was one big

644
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:54.039
<v Speaker 1>room and it was bright white. All of the walls,

645
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:57.519
<v Speaker 1>the ceilings, the floor, everything was shining with this white light.

646
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:03.360
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't blinding, but it was it was glowing white.

647
00:42:03.639 --> 00:42:06.880
<v Speaker 1>And there were all of these boxes on the floor,

648
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:13.719
<v Speaker 1>like moving boxes is what they looked like. And the

649
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:17.360
<v Speaker 1>two beings set me in one of the boxes that

650
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:20.559
<v Speaker 1>were close to the wall, and on the wall there

651
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.440
<v Speaker 1>was a shelf, and so the being set me down

652
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:25.519
<v Speaker 1>and they floated to the corner of the room and

653
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:29.239
<v Speaker 1>they just started watching me, observing me, and I looked

654
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:33.280
<v Speaker 1>up at the shelf and it was it was I

655
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:35.480
<v Speaker 1>think I remember it being three tiers, and there were

656
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:40.480
<v Speaker 1>items across each shelf. I don't remember exactly what the

657
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:43.639
<v Speaker 1>items were, but small little like trinkets and items were

658
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:47.800
<v Speaker 1>on each shelf. And I hadn't and I received this

659
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:51.119
<v Speaker 1>understanding that I needed to reach for one of those

660
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:56.159
<v Speaker 1>items on the shelf. So I was about six or seven,

661
00:42:56.320 --> 00:43:00.559
<v Speaker 1>and this box I was standing in was probably my chest,

662
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:02.719
<v Speaker 1>and so it was a pretty big box. But I

663
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:04.800
<v Speaker 1>mean I was small, I was a child, so maybe

664
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:07.440
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't too big, but it was big enough where

665
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I was not able to just like step out of it.

666
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:12.480
<v Speaker 1>And so I stood on my toes and I was

667
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:15.719
<v Speaker 1>reaching as far as I could to try and reach

668
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:17.719
<v Speaker 1>for one of these items on the shelf, and I

669
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:21.000
<v Speaker 1>just could not reach. And so I turned around and

670
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:24.280
<v Speaker 1>looked at the beings that took me there kind of

671
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:29.880
<v Speaker 1>for direction, and they transferred telepathically this encouragement into my being.

672
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:32.639
<v Speaker 1>And so I turned around and I tried again and again,

673
00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:37.679
<v Speaker 1>and I just couldn't reach it. And so they they

674
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:39.719
<v Speaker 1>came to me, and they lifted me out of the

675
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:45.719
<v Speaker 1>box and another thing in the cube on the other

676
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:48.159
<v Speaker 1>side of it, the opposite side from where we came in.

677
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:53.159
<v Speaker 1>That side was opened slightly where these two men that

678
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:55.239
<v Speaker 1>I knew were not human, even though they kind of

679
00:43:55.280 --> 00:44:00.599
<v Speaker 1>seemed to look human, they were loading bax is either

680
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:04.000
<v Speaker 1>in or out from a craft that was hovering outside

681
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:06.079
<v Speaker 1>of the cube on that side. So there was a

682
00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:09.000
<v Speaker 1>craft hovering on the other side of the cube that

683
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:11.199
<v Speaker 1>was a lot smaller than the cube, and they were

684
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:17.039
<v Speaker 1>loading boxes in or out of that craft. And so

685
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the after I couldn't reach anything on the shelf, the

686
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:23.400
<v Speaker 1>two beings took me out of the box, and they

687
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:26.480
<v Speaker 1>took me out of the cube, and they carried me

688
00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:28.920
<v Speaker 1>back through the sky and through the roof of the

689
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:32.039
<v Speaker 1>Burton House and through the ceiling in my bedroom, and

690
00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:35.679
<v Speaker 1>they set me back into my physical body. And I

691
00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:41.880
<v Speaker 1>felt myself like snap back in and my two bodies rejoin,

692
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:45.559
<v Speaker 1>and I just and as soon as I joined my

693
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:49.920
<v Speaker 1>physical body, they were gone, and I was by myself again,

694
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:54.199
<v Speaker 1>and I just laid there and I was like vibrating,

695
00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:56.760
<v Speaker 1>and I just laid there and I was just I

696
00:44:56.840 --> 00:44:59.159
<v Speaker 1>was excited and I was in shock, and I had

697
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:05.400
<v Speaker 1>so many questions. So yeah, that was that was that encounter,

698
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:13.519
<v Speaker 1>and that was my second really really amazing experience after

699
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:15.800
<v Speaker 1>the three Golden Beings.

700
00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:20.519
<v Speaker 2>The Golden beans, how big were they?

701
00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:31.400
<v Speaker 1>They were probably about the size of maybe maybe a

702
00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:35.239
<v Speaker 1>nine year old or a ten year old, okay, yeah,

703
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.280
<v Speaker 1>like a young child, not a toddler, but a little

704
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:39.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, like a child.

705
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:42.800
<v Speaker 2>It's about between four to five feet.

706
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe it maybe four feet okay, maybe maybe three

707
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:48.920
<v Speaker 1>and a half or four feet tall if they were standing.

708
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, that's usually about the size. People depict some

709
00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:59.199
<v Speaker 2>of these beans to be. So yeah, again kind of

710
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:04.880
<v Speaker 2>aligns with all of that. Before we wrap this up,

711
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:07.760
<v Speaker 2>I would like to talk a little bit about your book.

712
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:10.199
<v Speaker 2>You said you've written all of the stuff, of all

713
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:12.800
<v Speaker 2>the things you've experienced, we've only scratched the surface on

714
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:17.119
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of it today. What made you decide

715
00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:19.559
<v Speaker 2>that you wanted to write this book? Was there something

716
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:21.199
<v Speaker 2>that just kind of clicked and be like, you know what,

717
00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:23.519
<v Speaker 2>I want to start documenting this stuff? Like what was

718
00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:27.119
<v Speaker 2>your motivation to turn all this into a book?

719
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:32.719
<v Speaker 1>So it all started when I was actually really little

720
00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:38.679
<v Speaker 1>and these all these types of beings that I was encountering,

721
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:43.159
<v Speaker 1>some of them, I'm not sure exactly which ones, but

722
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:46.559
<v Speaker 1>I know that it was it was more of the

723
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:50.159
<v Speaker 1>the good ones that they told me telepathically when I

724
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:52.440
<v Speaker 1>was little that I was going to write a book

725
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:56.519
<v Speaker 1>about the things that I've seen. And so just a

726
00:46:56.559 --> 00:47:00.039
<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago, so I've always known that I

727
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.199
<v Speaker 1>was going to write a book about these things, and

728
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:05.800
<v Speaker 1>all throughout my life, I've had encounter after encounter, and

729
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:11.239
<v Speaker 1>it's been constant, basically, and so I I was always like,

730
00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:13.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, I can't wait, you know, to write a

731
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.519
<v Speaker 1>book about this. But it was never the time. It

732
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:20.559
<v Speaker 1>was never because writing a book it takes so much time,

733
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:22.719
<v Speaker 1>and it takes at least a couple of years, and

734
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:25.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, it takes a lot, and it was never

735
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:26.920
<v Speaker 1>really the time too, and I also didn't feel like

736
00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:31.000
<v Speaker 1>it was the right time. But a couple of years ago,

737
00:47:32.519 --> 00:47:37.559
<v Speaker 1>I just I started getting these these signs and these synchronicities,

738
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, it was just I

739
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:43.079
<v Speaker 1>had this opportunity come up where I just I had

740
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:47.960
<v Speaker 1>the ability to finally write it, and I was just told, like,

741
00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:49.840
<v Speaker 1>now is the time to write it. I actually had

742
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:52.679
<v Speaker 1>a voice come into my head and say, right, so

743
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:56.079
<v Speaker 1>others can be captivated by your mind. That was the

744
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:59.719
<v Speaker 1>exact words that came from this source that let me

745
00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:03.760
<v Speaker 1>know that now is the time to write what I've seen.

746
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:09.800
<v Speaker 1>And so I started writing, and it was it was

747
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:16.199
<v Speaker 1>such such a journey bringing everything that I've ever seen

748
00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:19.800
<v Speaker 1>to the surface, and because there was a lot of

749
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:23.079
<v Speaker 1>really really traumatic experiences that I had at the Briton House,

750
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:27.840
<v Speaker 1>and some of them are actually still resurfacing and being

751
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:32.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, coming forward to this day, and I know

752
00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:38.039
<v Speaker 1>that I have so many memories that I are kind

753
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:41.079
<v Speaker 1>of buried in my subconscious that I don't have complete

754
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:45.239
<v Speaker 1>access to yet. And I also have a lot of

755
00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:49.360
<v Speaker 1>blocks of time for my childhood that I completely do

756
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:52.760
<v Speaker 1>not recall. I have a lot of times that I

757
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:54.880
<v Speaker 1>when I was growing up that are totally blacked out.

758
00:48:56.559 --> 00:49:00.840
<v Speaker 1>And so it was a real journey bringing everything to

759
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:07.079
<v Speaker 1>the surface as I wrote it from the moment that

760
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:12.239
<v Speaker 1>first encounter happened up until today, and actually as I

761
00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:15.360
<v Speaker 1>wrote for because I started writing in June of twenty

762
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:19.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty four up until this February of twenty twenty six,

763
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:22.320
<v Speaker 1>so it was just over write about a year and

764
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:27.679
<v Speaker 1>a half that I was writing and you know, doing

765
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:30.320
<v Speaker 1>all the other stuff that it takes to finish it up.

766
00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:34.920
<v Speaker 1>But things kept happening, and so I kept having to

767
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.559
<v Speaker 1>add more and more experiences to the end of the

768
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:42.880
<v Speaker 1>book as I was writing the book. And yeah, so

769
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:46.159
<v Speaker 1>on top of that, on top of knowing that this

770
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:49.440
<v Speaker 1>is part of my purpose here, because I know that

771
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:56.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm meant to speak up about these things and be

772
00:49:56.800 --> 00:50:00.800
<v Speaker 1>someone who kind of opens helps open the door for

773
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:05.280
<v Speaker 1>other people to feel comfortable talking about this stuff. But

774
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:11.239
<v Speaker 1>on top of that, I I'm so I'm so glad

775
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:14.400
<v Speaker 1>and I'm so grateful to be a voice for people

776
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:17.599
<v Speaker 1>who feel like they can't talk about this stuff, whether

777
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:20.519
<v Speaker 1>it's an abduction experience, or whether they grew up in

778
00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:23.239
<v Speaker 1>a haunted house, or whether you know it was this

779
00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:25.480
<v Speaker 1>or that, or they had an out of body experience

780
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:30.079
<v Speaker 1>and they think they're going crazy, or or maybe they

781
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:32.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, they understand it, but they feel like they

782
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:35.239
<v Speaker 1>can't talk to anyone about it because you know, they

783
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:38.559
<v Speaker 1>might be labeled crazy, or they their reputation at work

784
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:42.599
<v Speaker 1>could be ruined or or whatever. There's there's so many

785
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:45.880
<v Speaker 1>people who who have these experiences, and a lot of

786
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:50.199
<v Speaker 1>them feel they can't say anything about it. And I

787
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:52.199
<v Speaker 1>think that has to change. And I know a lot

788
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:55.360
<v Speaker 1>of people, as time goes on, are realizing that that

789
00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:57.679
<v Speaker 1>does have to change. And I'm so excited to be

790
00:50:58.360 --> 00:51:01.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the people that tell them my full story

791
00:51:01.559 --> 00:51:04.639
<v Speaker 1>and it's raw and I don't hold anything back, and

792
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I go through every single detail that I can possibly remember,

793
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:13.360
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I'm just I'm so glad to be a

794
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:17.800
<v Speaker 1>voice for people and so that you know, and maybe they'll,

795
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:22.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, they'll see some of my some of their

796
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:25.199
<v Speaker 1>experiences in mind when they read my story and all

797
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:29.320
<v Speaker 1>the things that I've seen because I know that. Actually,

798
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:33.599
<v Speaker 1>as I was writing, I listened to I think it

799
00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:37.760
<v Speaker 1>was twenty two or twenty three audiobooks on this subject

800
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:42.199
<v Speaker 1>as I was writing, and there were times where I

801
00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:47.440
<v Speaker 1>would start crying because I heard someone else's experience that

802
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:50.679
<v Speaker 1>reflected mine that I had never had that felt that

803
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:53.880
<v Speaker 1>connection before. I never knew anyone else saw this specific

804
00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:57.559
<v Speaker 1>thing or experience this specific thing, so just to know that,

805
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:00.280
<v Speaker 1>and I have already had readers reach out to me

806
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:02.760
<v Speaker 1>and be like, I've never talked to anyone about this,

807
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:04.920
<v Speaker 1>but oh my gosh, I couldn't believe when I heard this,

808
00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:07.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, this specific thing that you saw it was

809
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I saw that too, and I it like warms my

810
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:16.960
<v Speaker 1>heart to know that I can make other people feel

811
00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:23.760
<v Speaker 1>that way, that comfort, that that that sense of of

812
00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:28.679
<v Speaker 1>connection or kind of the community might not be the

813
00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:33.440
<v Speaker 1>right word, but kind of that feeling that they're a

814
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:36.480
<v Speaker 1>part of something much bigger, and that there are other

815
00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:39.559
<v Speaker 1>people that have these experiences too.

816
00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to think, like, without sounding cliche or whatever,

817
00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:53.360
<v Speaker 2>but why do you think they chose you?

818
00:52:56.280 --> 00:52:59.679
<v Speaker 1>That is a question that I do still have because

819
00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:02.280
<v Speaker 1>I know that a lot of a lot of the

820
00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:05.760
<v Speaker 1>so I've really, I've really I've always been into this stuff,

821
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:08.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of researching it, reading about it, talking to people

822
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:11.000
<v Speaker 1>about it. But these past couple of years, I've been

823
00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:15.639
<v Speaker 1>really really diving deep. And most of the things that

824
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:21.199
<v Speaker 1>I hear from other experiencers is they grew up without

825
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:23.679
<v Speaker 1>this stuff and at the age of twenty five or

826
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:25.920
<v Speaker 1>at the age of forty five, they have this wild

827
00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:30.199
<v Speaker 1>encounter that changes their life or you know, and that

828
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:32.639
<v Speaker 1>kind of opens the door to a couple other things

829
00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:37.360
<v Speaker 1>that might happen. But it's not It's not very common

830
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:42.519
<v Speaker 1>that you hear from another experience or that they were

831
00:53:44.519 --> 00:53:49.800
<v Speaker 1>that they were born being taken and taken out of

832
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:55.320
<v Speaker 1>body and tested and taught things and encountered with all

833
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:58.840
<v Speaker 1>these sorts of beings and I and that never asked

834
00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:01.119
<v Speaker 1>for it, Like I never, as you know, as a

835
00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:03.320
<v Speaker 1>childler as a child, or even growing up, I never

836
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:05.679
<v Speaker 1>I never went out of my way and said, Okay,

837
00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to know, I want to

838
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:10.039
<v Speaker 1>be I want to have an encounter. I want to

839
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:12.639
<v Speaker 1>have an It just happened. It came to me, and

840
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:18.679
<v Speaker 1>so I do wonder, you know, why, why me? Was

841
00:54:18.719 --> 00:54:23.760
<v Speaker 1>there something about me after I was born that like

842
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:27.079
<v Speaker 1>my aura that they saw was a good fit for

843
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:33.559
<v Speaker 1>some purpose, some specific thing, or was it? Was it

844
00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:37.440
<v Speaker 1>something I agreed to before I came into this specific

845
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:43.719
<v Speaker 1>physical life. But I do know that from it and

846
00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:50.960
<v Speaker 1>from being immersed in this this other worldly stuff since

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00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:55.639
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of my life, that I that I my

848
00:54:55.800 --> 00:55:04.360
<v Speaker 1>purpose is to open other people's eyes it and to

849
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<v Speaker 1>to help shed light on these things.

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00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:16.199
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if and this is not necessarily anything anyone

851
00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:18.280
<v Speaker 2>can answer, but like I wonder if people like you,

852
00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:21.760
<v Speaker 2>people like these other experiences, and even what I do

853
00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:25.639
<v Speaker 2>here at this shows again giving people the opportunity to

854
00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:28.280
<v Speaker 2>share their experiences because I'm also an experiencer as well.

855
00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Are we doing this by design? Because they're supposed to

856
00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:35.519
<v Speaker 2>be helping people out hope and trying to get people

857
00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:38.920
<v Speaker 2>to awaken to these things. But if that is the case,

858
00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:42.599
<v Speaker 2>why are we all just not aware of it in

859
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:44.519
<v Speaker 2>the first place? Why do we have to be become

860
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:46.760
<v Speaker 2>aware of this? Like what happened to us to not

861
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:50.400
<v Speaker 2>be knowing of these other entities, these other beings? Like

862
00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:52.920
<v Speaker 2>where does Again it goes back to what I'd said

863
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:55.320
<v Speaker 2>earlier about how I think we're capable of a lot

864
00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:58.239
<v Speaker 2>of things, But we're shut off from it somehow, there's

865
00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:00.840
<v Speaker 2>like a disconnect. And if they're trying to reconnect that

866
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:04.239
<v Speaker 2>with us, who shut it off? How do we get

867
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:07.960
<v Speaker 2>disconnected in the first place? And why is it such

868
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:12.280
<v Speaker 2>a specific person that gets targeted out to do this

869
00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:15.280
<v Speaker 2>rather than a mass of awakening.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I have the same questions, honestly, and it just

871
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:27.360
<v Speaker 1>leads to so many more questions, these big questions like

872
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:35.239
<v Speaker 1>why why are we disconnected from from our abilities today?

873
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:39.880
<v Speaker 1>How long ago did that happen? Why did it happen?

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00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Who did it? Did we do it to ourselves? Was

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00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:44.559
<v Speaker 1>it an external source that did it to us? Was

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00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:49.280
<v Speaker 1>it some malevolent being that did it to us? Was

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00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:52.960
<v Speaker 1>it a whole Yeah? I mean you could you could

878
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:59.119
<v Speaker 1>really go anywhere with like, you know, wondering how that happened.

879
00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:05.960
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's like the age old question of why

880
00:57:05.960 --> 00:57:09.159
<v Speaker 2>are we here? Like what's our purpose? Like we're not

881
00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:10.960
<v Speaker 2>going to get that answer. And I think the more

882
00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:13.360
<v Speaker 2>we dig into it and the more people become aware

883
00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:16.519
<v Speaker 2>of its great. But at the end of the day,

884
00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:18.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't think we're ever going to have the answer,

885
00:57:18.800 --> 00:57:22.079
<v Speaker 2>at least not in my lifetime to where we are,

886
00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:24.280
<v Speaker 2>who we are why we are who we are, Like,

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00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:27.320
<v Speaker 2>what is the purpose? I think there's more to it.

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00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:29.880
<v Speaker 2>It's just a matter of I don't know if we

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<v Speaker 2>get that in this physical form that.

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00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:36.800
<v Speaker 1>We're in right now, why we're here in our purpose

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00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel is just to have that like I feel

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00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:47.599
<v Speaker 1>that we were created to have that bond with the

893
00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Creator and the others that were created and to just

894
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:59.480
<v Speaker 1>experience this incredible life. But it's supposed to be so

895
00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:03.280
<v Speaker 1>much more incredible than what we experience right now, because

896
00:58:03.320 --> 00:58:08.960
<v Speaker 1>we're really fully bound by the physical and material and

897
00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:11.599
<v Speaker 1>we're not supposed to be. That wasn't the original intention

898
00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:17.280
<v Speaker 1>for humanity to be like closed off from the other

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00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:20.679
<v Speaker 1>realms and from the other dimensions and from their abilities

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00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:23.039
<v Speaker 1>and from all these incredible things that we can do.

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00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:27.920
<v Speaker 1>So this life as we experience it today, it's like

902
00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:31.079
<v Speaker 1>it makes it harder for people to be like, you know,

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00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:35.159
<v Speaker 1>why am I here? Because you know, this physical world

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00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:40.039
<v Speaker 1>can be pretty dull, it could be pretty like purposeless

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00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:45.719
<v Speaker 1>in some instances. And but like then, but when you

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00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:50.760
<v Speaker 1>tap into the true nature of this life we're actually

907
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:58.480
<v Speaker 1>in and escape these like this, these restrictions that we have,

908
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:03.719
<v Speaker 1>it changes that and it opens up like, oh my gosh,

909
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:07.519
<v Speaker 1>there's there's so much more, and it means so much

910
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:11.159
<v Speaker 1>more than just the physical or material world. It has

911
00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:18.840
<v Speaker 1>such a deeper meaning, and the opportunities are endless, and

912
00:59:19.079 --> 00:59:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the experiences are endless, and yeah, the it's it's hard

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00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:31.559
<v Speaker 1>to put words on but yeah, I mean, we're here

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00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:34.360
<v Speaker 1>for a greater purpose than what we're experiencing right now,

915
00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:39.960
<v Speaker 1>and we're I just something just tells me that that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to change soon. Those things, those doors are

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00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:49.880
<v Speaker 1>going to start opening again and us discovering who we

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00:59:50.039 --> 00:59:56.400
<v Speaker 1>really are and is going to start happening within my lifetime.

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00:59:56.840 --> 01:00:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm thirty one, and so I just feel that within

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01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the next fifty years, we're going to start once again

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01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:11.119
<v Speaker 1>seeing these and experiencing and performing these things that people

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01:00:11.239 --> 01:00:14.039
<v Speaker 1>now would say is sci fi or is fake or

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01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:18.760
<v Speaker 1>is you know, is crazy. But I feel that we're

924
01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:24.239
<v Speaker 1>going to start really understanding life again and why we're

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01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:25.440
<v Speaker 1>here and who we are.

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<v Speaker 2>What we're doing right now used to be considered sci fi. Right,

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01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:33.519
<v Speaker 2>So I don't doubt that we're going to have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of advancements when it comes to technologies and the

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01:00:36.679 --> 01:00:39.360
<v Speaker 2>things that we think about today will be in the

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01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:44.880
<v Speaker 2>next fifty years will be different, but we can probably

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<v Speaker 2>wrap this up, and I want you to let everyone

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01:00:48.719 --> 01:00:51.159
<v Speaker 2>know that's listening where they can find your book at.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you can find my book on Amazon and

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01:00:56.400 --> 01:01:00.000
<v Speaker 1>it's called Born Awakened and other Worldly True Story by

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01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:05.360
<v Speaker 1>Mantha Lifeger. And you can also find me on Instagram, Facebook, Reddit, TikTok,

936
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:09.719
<v Speaker 1>and substack by looking up Born Awakened.

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01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:14.440
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned reddit. That's how we actually got connected originally.

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01:01:15.039 --> 01:01:18.119
<v Speaker 2>How is it How has your reddit experienced so far?

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01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:24.519
<v Speaker 1>So I've known what reddit was for some years now,

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01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:28.920
<v Speaker 1>but I never really got into using it until I

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<v Speaker 1>started writing. And so I'm a part of like a

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01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:39.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of the experiencer groups, the UFO groups, the paranormal

943
01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:43.079
<v Speaker 1>groups and stuff like that, and it really it's been

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01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:47.039
<v Speaker 1>really cool to be able to connect with people who

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01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:51.920
<v Speaker 1>are just loving to talk about this stuff. There's a

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01:01:51.960 --> 01:01:56.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of there's a lot of people that that really

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01:01:56.519 --> 01:01:58.840
<v Speaker 1>open up about this stuff on there, and it's really

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01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:03.199
<v Speaker 1>cool to see. And I actually, uh, I think it

949
01:02:03.239 --> 01:02:05.440
<v Speaker 1>was just a couple of months ago, maybe just a

950
01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:08.519
<v Speaker 1>month or two ago, that I created a subreddit called

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01:02:08.599 --> 01:02:14.320
<v Speaker 1>ask Experiencers, And so I think there's one hundred and

952
01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:18.039
<v Speaker 1>fifty some people on it so far. But it's it's fun.

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01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:23.079
<v Speaker 1>I I really, I really grew to like Reddit a lot,

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01:02:23.159 --> 01:02:27.760
<v Speaker 1>and I've actually connected with you and with several other

955
01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:33.039
<v Speaker 1>people on there over this stuff. And it's yeah, it's

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01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I love it. It's it's it's cool, and it's it's

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01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:41.280
<v Speaker 1>unique from you know, Facebook or Instagram. It's it's nice

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01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that there's it's just filled with these groups that people

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01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:49.280
<v Speaker 1>can just spill their experiences into and share it with

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01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:49.760
<v Speaker 1>each other.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to find those groups because a lot of

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01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:55.840
<v Speaker 2>the ones that I get into are a lot of

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01:02:56.079 --> 01:02:57.119
<v Speaker 2>trolls involved.

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<v Speaker 1>There are. Yeah, I've noticed that certain groups, especially certain

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01:03:03.480 --> 01:03:06.960
<v Speaker 1>UFO groups, for some reason, I feel like there's a

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01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:10.519
<v Speaker 1>lot of people, like at least half of the people

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01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:13.159
<v Speaker 1>on some of those groups are just on there because

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01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:15.599
<v Speaker 1>they just want to tell people that their experiences are

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01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:20.800
<v Speaker 1>just not real, you know, like or they're just there

970
01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:27.760
<v Speaker 1>to be an un unchangeable skeptic or you know, or

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01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:30.519
<v Speaker 1>to argue with people there. There. There is a lot

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01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:33.719
<v Speaker 1>of that on a lot of groups on Reddit, and

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01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:38.440
<v Speaker 1>especially certain ones. But I know that, sorry, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Cryptid groups are just as bad. Like literally, if someone

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01:03:41.199 --> 01:03:43.840
<v Speaker 2>posts a photo of something. They're getting harassed by so

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01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:44.440
<v Speaker 2>many people.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know I noticed that too when I

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01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:51.000
<v Speaker 1>first joined the a couple of cryptid groups, and I'm

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01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:54.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, so I I recognize the word cryptid as

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01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:58.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know there's a couple of different definitions. Sure,

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01:03:58.199 --> 01:04:03.280
<v Speaker 1>but as you know, let's say bigfoot, dog man, mothman,

982
01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:09.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, stuff like that. And so I did come

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01:04:09.039 --> 01:04:11.760
<v Speaker 1>across a couple other people posting it, and everybody's saying,

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01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:14.280
<v Speaker 1>this is not what a cryptid really is and this

985
01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:18.280
<v Speaker 1>is not the scientific Like oh, okay, you.

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01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Will have that with so many people. And because you

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01:04:21.119 --> 01:04:23.920
<v Speaker 2>just lum mothman and as a cryptid, someone would tell

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01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:28.119
<v Speaker 2>you that mothman is not encrypted, which I don't know

989
01:04:28.159 --> 01:04:31.079
<v Speaker 2>how their definitions go, but mothmans to certain people are

990
01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:32.199
<v Speaker 2>as not considered acrypted.

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01:04:32.199 --> 01:04:36.079
<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, whatever, Yeah, I don't know how

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01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:36.559
<v Speaker 1>it couldn't be.

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01:04:36.599 --> 01:04:42.679
<v Speaker 2>Encrypted because they think it's probably a spiritual thing, or

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01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:46.760
<v Speaker 2>they also said it could be an interdimensional thing, or

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01:04:46.840 --> 01:04:54.679
<v Speaker 2>it was in fact just a large bird. I was like, okay, whatever.

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01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of things that happened

997
01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:04.679
<v Speaker 1>and during that time that people were seeing the mothman,

998
01:05:04.840 --> 01:05:08.719
<v Speaker 1>and and before the bridge collapsed that that a bird

999
01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:13.440
<v Speaker 1>couldn't do. There was some really strange paranormal events that

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01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:17.400
<v Speaker 1>happened that you know, it goes way beyond some you know,

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01:05:17.719 --> 01:05:22.239
<v Speaker 1>material explanation or just an animal or But honestly, for me,

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01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:26.000
<v Speaker 1>when I think about cryptids and these you know, strange

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01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:30.880
<v Speaker 1>beings that people witness, I think that from For me,

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01:05:31.239 --> 01:05:35.159
<v Speaker 1>my definition of a cryptid is it is interdimensional, it

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01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:38.639
<v Speaker 1>is spiritual, it is whatever you want to say. They

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01:05:38.679 --> 01:05:41.679
<v Speaker 1>do go back and forth between the physical and wherever

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01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:44.559
<v Speaker 1>they came from, just like how people can see Bigfoot

1008
01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:47.800
<v Speaker 1>disappear all of a sudden, you know, out of just

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01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:50.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, all of a sudden, gone, He's disappeared. Or

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01:05:52.159 --> 01:05:56.480
<v Speaker 1>same thing with with a mothman or with with uh,

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01:05:57.239 --> 01:06:00.480
<v Speaker 1>what is it the it's not called wolf man. I

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01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:02.039
<v Speaker 1>don't know why I can't think of it the dog Man.

1013
01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:04.719
<v Speaker 1>I know there's a lot of stories up here in

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01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Michigan regarding the dog Man. But yeah, so.

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01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's there's a lot to them.

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01:06:14.800 --> 01:06:19.079
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I could go on for a long time

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01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:20.000
<v Speaker 1>about all that stuff.

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01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:25.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, Samantha, again, for anyone listening, your book is called

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01:06:25.199 --> 01:06:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Born awakened. They can find it on Amazon, and you

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01:06:28.840 --> 01:06:33.159
<v Speaker 2>are available on Instagram, Facebook, Reddit, all the social media's.

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01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:35.960
<v Speaker 2>But it's been a pleasure talking to you.

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01:06:37.119 --> 01:06:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you so much for having me on. I

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01:06:38.840 --> 01:06:42.400
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you let me talk about all my experiences and

1024
01:06:42.480 --> 01:06:43.840
<v Speaker 1>my book and everything.

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01:06:44.639 --> 01:06:49.280
<v Speaker 2>About how many pages is your book? For anyone that's curious.

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01:06:48.719 --> 01:06:52.599
<v Speaker 1>It is two hundred and forty one, I believe, so

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01:06:52.800 --> 01:06:56.280
<v Speaker 1>good read for him. Yeah. Yeah, it's a good size.

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01:06:56.320 --> 01:06:59.559
<v Speaker 1>It's not too big, but it's it's long enough where

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01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:01.400
<v Speaker 1>it's got a lot of content in it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, we're gonna wrap this up, so thanks

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01:07:05.559 --> 01:07:08.800
<v Speaker 2>for listening, Thanks to Samantha for being on here today,

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01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:11.360
<v Speaker 2>and we will check you guys out on the next one.

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<v Speaker 2>If you would like to be a guest on Tenfoil Tels,

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01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:21.760
<v Speaker 2>remember to send an email to Tenfoil Tells Podcast to

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01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:24.760
<v Speaker 2>gmail dot com, or you can also go to tenfoiltales

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01:07:24.800 --> 01:07:27.079
<v Speaker 2>dot com and go to the contact section. Just make

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01:07:27.119 --> 01:07:28.679
<v Speaker 2>sure to reach out and get hold of me and

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01:07:28.679 --> 01:07:31.000
<v Speaker 2>we will get something schedule for a future episode. You

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01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:34.320
<v Speaker 2>can also find tenfoil Tales on Facebook and Instagram. Just

1040
01:07:34.320 --> 01:07:37.000
<v Speaker 2>look for Tenfoil Tales podcast and reach out to me

1041
01:07:37.039 --> 01:07:39.719
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01:07:39.760 --> 01:07:41.480
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<v Speaker 2>And just remember truth comes at cost. Are you willing

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