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Speaker 1: And I just turned around and I call ass out

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of there. I was done. I wasn't deal with them.

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Speaker 2: The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things

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Speaker 1: Away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on,

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it turned and looked at us.

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Speaker 2: And one of the things I remember the most, where

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the eyes were going red. I see an orb of light.

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Speaker 1: It is just circling these steps.

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Speaker 2: Like it is waiting for me. And he begins to

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tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically like, what

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are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree,

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peeking around it, and that's where I saw the top of.

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Speaker 1: The muzzle, nose and the eyes. As soon as I

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made eye contact with this thing, I don't like death.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Tenfoil Tells. I'm your host, Brandon and

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I were joined by my guest Samantha. Samantha, thanks for

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coming on here and talking to me.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Would you like to let the audience know a little

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bit about yourself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I am a mom from Michigan and I

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am a lifelong experiencer. I've had other worldly encounters since

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I was born, and I was born and raised in

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a poultry geist house in Lansing, Michigan, and I just

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I've finally just published a book about everything that I've

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seen and everything that I've witnessed and experienced just a

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couple months ago, where I go through every experience that

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I've had over the past thirty years. So yeah, that's

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I've had. I've had experiences from from the poultry gist

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activity to UFOs to out of body experiences and extrasensory perceptions.

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So yeah, this is this is right in my right

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in my ballpark. I love talking about this stuff.

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Speaker 2: So you're from Michigan. Have you been in Michigan your

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whole life? Yep, you're not too far from I think

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my dad. I don't think it was Lancing, but originally

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and then they moved to Florida, But yeah, he was

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Speaker 1: Yep, I know where that is. I'm at this point,

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I'm just a couple hours north of Lancing, Okay, but

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the house I grew up in was in Lancing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I would like to you wrote a book,

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and before we kind of like the topics of your book.

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I don't want to spoil it for anyone that would

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want to look into the book, But is there a

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few things that you experienced when you were younger they

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kind of led you to on this path of wanting

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to write about it, Like, what were some of the

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things that set off this whole chain of events for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So the house I was born in, it was

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name of the street, so that's just kind of what

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we call it. And it was built in nineteen twenty

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three in an old neighborhood in Lansing, and I have

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had just living there was like constant experience after experience.

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But my first ever encounter, my first memory actually was

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an out of body experience. That was an encounter with

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three golden beings. And I was only about it was

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before I could speak, so I was maybe between one

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and two years old, and what I remember was being

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out of body at the top of the staircase and

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having a being to my left and one to my right,

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and then looking down the staircase there was a third

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one at the bottom of the staircase looking up at us,

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and they were they were floating, and they were these transparent,

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like they kind of looked like your typical chairub angel

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being just a little bit different, and they were. They

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were transparent, but all of their details were outlined in

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gold glitter, and so it looked like they were very detailed,

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and it looked like they were just drawn so detailed

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with gold. And they spoke telepathically to me, and they

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also expressed their their emotions and their intention and what

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they were feeling and what they what they were asking

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of me. And I feel like they also they also

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transferred some of their abilities and yeah, through this telepathic

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bridge that was between me and all three of them.

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realm and being in my eternal body in their presence,

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and it was like it was it was such a

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it was such an incredible experience, and it was such

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it was it was it opened the door. So it

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like so wide open for these things for me for

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the rest of my life. And I call it it's

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because I kind of go go like in chronological order

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of all my experiences, and I call it Summoned for initiation,

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because I feel like I was summoned out of body

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by these beings for this initiation into the other realms

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and into this connection with the other side. And so

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beings at the top of the staircase, and they started

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encouraging me to lift up off of the ground and levitate.

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kind of what to do and how to do it,

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almost as if I was already familiar with the ability,

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or maybe it was because they transferred it to me.

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within myself and I pulled it out and I interacted

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my own energy with the energies that were that were

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flowing all around me. And so I was in like

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this ocean of of these currents that were that were

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like they had sound and they had energy, and they

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had a tone and they had and I could almost

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see some of them the light from them. It was

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like you could see all of your senses were seeing

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all of these things at once. And so I interacted that.

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I used my own energy to interact with the field

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around me to move up and down and left and right,

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and so to like lift up through these currents that

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were around me. It's really really hard to explain how

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how this happened. But basically I lifted off of the

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ground and I was hovering then between the two and

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then they told me to let you know, it's time

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to go down the staircase. Now let's go down, and

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on my left side, one was on my right side.

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the basically the the visuals of watching my feet pass

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over the steps as I'm floating down the stairs and

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having the steps like like as I'm floating down and

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watching them pass beneath my feet. And so when I

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get to the bottom and meet the third angel at

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the bottom, then I'm surrounded by all three of them,

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and they're blasting me with this amazing energy. They were celebrating,

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and they weren't even using their faces like facial expressions

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to let me know that they were happy or celebrating,

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because they just had like these kind of like straight

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kind looks on their faces, so they didn't use their

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face to express themselves. They it was from the energy

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that they were filling my being with. That's how I

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knew that they were celebrating and that they were proud

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of me, and that they they were excited. So that

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ever experience of my life, and it I don't know

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what I would do without it, because it's like I

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had their presence with me growing up in that haunted

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house that had so many malicious and dark spirits that

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I encountered day at night, and I know that I

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was protected by not only God, but many guardians and

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other worldly beings that came to protect me and guide me.

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kind of like I always knew it, but I didn't

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really think too hard on it until I started writing

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my book a couple of years ago, that during this encounter,

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when I was out of body, even though my physical

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body was a toddler, in that heightened state, like in

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my higher self's body, I had the mindset that I

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have now as an adult, like I wasn't restricted my

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my awareness and my consciousness and my my mindset wasn't

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restricted by the physical world brain of a toddler because

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was pretty interesting to think about too, because I didn't

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really Yeah, I didn't really come to that conclusion, I

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guess until recently, like, Yeah, I wasn't. I didn't feel

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like a child at all. I felt like I do

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right now. So that was my first experience.

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other people that I spoke to. Really, they had mentioned

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before that they were levitated and they were brought down

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the stairs and the similarities like that. It makes me

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wonder how often is this one of the characteristics of

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these types of experiences, because I think you're like, now

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the third person that I've interviewed over the last couple

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of years that have specifically mentioned like the telepathic conversation

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of them telling them that like lifts them up levitating

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them down. Wow, it's a It makes me wonder, like,

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them as like a spiritual guardian.

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have that encounter. But yeah, I wouldn't for that those

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specific beings, I wouldn't use the word alien. I have

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encountered things that would fit that bill, but these ones

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were more like like teachers or guardians.

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from a communion, the cover of communions what it was

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and then he realized that these things weren't ghosts, they

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Speaker 1: Wow, I've heard that so much where someone will specifically

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Whitley's Communion cover where someone will see that and they

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gray type of beings as well, and it is it

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definitely does give you that like that feeling, like you

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those beings that that did that with him were those

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types of beings or that that was that was their form.

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their true form, because I know that things can, these

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these interdimensional beings, and and from my experience there is many, many,

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many different different beings other than humans that are in

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these other realms and other dimensions and that can also

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step into the physical realm. But sorry, I'm just lost

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from his stuff? And then like, how you to you've

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can show themselves as what they kind of like to

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show themselves as as of like they can they can

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project their form as kind of what would fit the

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mind of the experiencer or the witness. And I've also

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people having encounters with with one being and they all

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see something different. So I, yeah, it just it makes

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throughout my life, was the form that I was shown

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their true form or was that just something that maybe

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they question stuff that makes no sense, like, I don't

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questioning this stuff. They want us to look into it,

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of sense, because it continues to add to the mystery,

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like are we not supposed to find out all the answers,

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so they continuously lead of us breadcrumbs. But if you

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go through history back in hundreds of years ago, they

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used to talk about fairy abductions. They talked about the

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faithfolk and everything. Well, nowadays we have alien abductions and

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what we say where aliens are now all of a

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sudden interdimensional mm hmm. So what if the fairies were

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the things that now we call What if it's all

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the same thing. It's just as we evolve and like

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become more science techie, these things have also been adapting

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to so they try and just adapt as we adapt.

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So they only they represent whatever they think our brains

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are capable of understanding.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've I've heard that theory before, and I do

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think that it applies to a lot of what people witness.

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And I've I love, I love getting into this story

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stories that that were recorded hundreds of years ago or

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thousands of years ago with all these sorts of beings,

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and then you tell you, you know, you get into

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the fay folk and the little people and all of

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these things that people really saw and they recorded what

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they actually saw. You know, during the time of when

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these things were recorded and written down, they weren't joking,

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they weren't making up fiction. You know, they were actually

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recording things that they really saw. And it does make

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you wonder are they Are they the same? And I

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think that I think that some of it is. But

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at the same time, I think about how many different

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types of things that I've seen, and how I felt

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that they were different from one another, like in their

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actual nature. And I know that people even today have

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seen little people, or have seen what they would explain

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as a fairy or you know, all sorts of different things.

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I know, I've seen a little old dwarf woman that

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might be explained as like a type of fay being,

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you know, if you were talking a few hundred years ago.

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But yeah, so I think some of it is. But

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I also think that I do think that some of

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these beings are different in nature.

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Speaker 2: I don't think every single one is the same thing.

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I think there are different variations of them. But I

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still think a lot of it may come from the

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same I don't know, I don't want to say reality,

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but the same plane of existence. I guess wherever they're from,

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I think they all kind of come from that real I.

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Speaker 1: Agree, Yeah, And it's like you said, it's all connected.

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I totally agree with that. I think that because I

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know that sometimes people like to they like to group

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these things separately, like the Bigfoot encounters are separate from

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the UFO encounters, and and they're separate from the paranormal activity,

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and they're separate from out of body experiences. But it's

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all from this same realm. It's all from this. It's

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like all of these things that are non physical that

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people experience is the real nature, the true nature of reality,

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just screaming at us like this is what These are

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the things that surround us everywhere, and it comes that

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there's just there's so much around us at all times,

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and there's so many others and yeah, it's it all

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and a lot of these beings are interdimensional. And honestly,

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I think that you know, because we have we don't

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just have this physical force. We also have a second body,

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or a spiritual body, or an astrabody or an eternal body,

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whatever someone you know would like to call it. But

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I've also heard that we have a third body, depending

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on you know, the culture that you're that you're looking at. Uh,

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I believe it's I believe it's Hindu culture. That UH

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recognize as a third body. And so I really do

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believe that humans are also inner dimensional beings, but that

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we have forgotten who we are, and we've forgotten our abilities,

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and we have slowly but surely walked away from true nature.

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And I think that now is the time for us

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to kind of turn that around and step back into

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our identity so that we we can do the things

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that we're really capable of.

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Speaker 2: Again, I think a lot of our ways are locked off.

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And I don't know if that was done intentionally or not,

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but I think there's a lot more that we are

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capable of as a human with our mind that for

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whatever reason, we just are not in tune with it

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as we used to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that. I think so too,

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I think from it being yeah, And like you said,

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not sure if it's done intentionally, like if there was

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an out outside source that that did that to us,

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or if it was something that we kind of we

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did to ourselves somehow, But I know that all of

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these things still lie dormant within us, and it's it's

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it's really the question is, you know, how do we

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reactivate these things?

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: But I know that I know that being exposed to

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other worldly beings and presences and exposed to other realms

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and having conscious experiences on the other side, does seem

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to activate things that were lying dormant.

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Speaker 2: What are some of the other things you've experienced, because

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you said you've wrote about everything you've experienced within like

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the last thirty years, So is there anything else that

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you think would be interesting for the listeners that would

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find appealing to the sense that maybe they would want

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to check out the rest of your book, because we

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just kind of scratched the surface on just what got you,

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like your first experience, and that first experience is kind

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of one of those experiences that sets the whole thing

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up to where, I don't want to say, like the

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sense of it set it up to like for more

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interesting things like that, but like the floating ones that

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are the ones that always get to me, Like if

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your body is floating through the air, it's like that's

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something you don't forget.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely not. Yeah, so I'll I'll get into the

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house I grew up in a little bit, so because

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that was like that was kind of like the things

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that that kind of came along soon after that encounter

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that first encounter because I had I had experiences in

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this Poultrygeist house ever since I can remember, as far

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back as my memory takes me, and I know that

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things were happening there even before I was born, because

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I got in touch with a woman that lived there

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in the eighties that had very similar encounters as well,

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So I know. I don't know if it's something to

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do with the land the house is built on, or

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if things were done there, you know, back in the

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in the early nineteen hundreds that kind of brought on

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some of this activity, or if it's both. My guess

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is it's both. But some things that would happen there

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on a regular basis growing up, and this was this

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was day and night. This is not like this is

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not like I would have an experience, you know, one

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day and then like maybe six months later, something else

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weird would happen. This was like every day, every night,

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struggling like make it through to the next hour, to

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the next day, make it through the night, just so

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you could do it again, just so you can. It

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was just it was constant. And so there were these

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these heavy boot stomps that would follow above my head

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all the time. There was we would see apparitions and

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hear voices, and there was also there was also something.

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I don't know if it was an actual entity or

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if it was a strange I mean, my guess is

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it was an entity, but it was some strange force

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that when and this happened to me countless times growing

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up at the Briton House, I would take those first

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few steps down the stairs. So I was upstairs on

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the second floor where the bedrooms were, walk down the hallway,

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take those first few steps down the and then there

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was this flat landing that would that the staircase would

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turn and go the rest of the way down, and

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you know, the rest of the way down was maybe

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like seventeen eighteen more steps, and as soon as you

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hit the landing and turned, I was lifted up into

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the air and shot all the way down the staircase

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at a really high speed. And my and it's crazy

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because my legs in my arms would all be straight

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up in the air and I was just barely hitting

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the center of my back on each step on the

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way down until I hit the bottom. And I wouldn't

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trip and I wouldn't slip or fall nothing. I was

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just lifted and shot down, and then when I hit

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the bottom, then I wasn't able to take an air

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into my lungs. I actually couldn't inhale, And so it

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was I would sit there and I would pray that

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I would be able to breathe in time before I suffocated,

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and the air was allowed to come back into my

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lungs every single time, right on time, right before I

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started to feel like it was getting dangerous that I

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couldn't breathe. And so this happened to me many many

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times living there. It also happened to my brother, and

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it happened to the residents that lived there before us.

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And when I was writing, I actually got into contact

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with the woman that lived there the decade before me,

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and I found out that this happening to her and

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her sister getting lifted and shot down the staircase and

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getting hurt on the steps like that, Well, just they're back.

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Actually the same thing would happen to them, were the

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center of their back was just barely smacking the steps

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as they're a shot all the way down. And they

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were the reason that the steps were carpeted when I

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was there, because thankfully the steps were carpeted when this

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happened to me in the nineties and into the early

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two thousands, but for her they were bear would And

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so I when I when I heard that, I was like,

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oh my gosh, I couldn't even imagine how much that

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hurt to have your back slam. The bear would all

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the way down the steps all the time. And the

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same thing is everyone who experienced this, they never tripped

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or fell. They were actually lifted and then shot. So

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that's something that that happened on a regular living there.

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And then there was the attic doorway was in the

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only bathroom in the house, So down the hallway from

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the bedrooms that was the bathroom on the second floor,

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and across from the toilet and the sink was the

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attic door. And the attic staircase ran up against the

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wall in the bathroom to go up into the attic

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and the door. Now that door, that original door, is

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no longer there. I know that because I'm in contact

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with the current residence. But the door, the doors in

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the Brinton House were like those old wooden doors were

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like they had the like the dark brass kind of

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like flat circular handles, and they had the rectangle of

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the brass behind it, and they had like the skeleton

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keyhole underneath the handle, and so we would open the

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door the attic door, and inside of the door were

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hundreds of names that were written and carved into the

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doorway from top to bottom, and then they actually were

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put on the wall a little bit up into the

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attic as if they couldn't all fit on the door.

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And I've to this day I have no idea the

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purpose of that, but it felt like it was a

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really it was kind of really eerie creepy thing that

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they were there like for some type of dark purpose.

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And then the attic staircase was like this skinny little

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staircase where only one person could really fit going up

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at once. But anyway, so a lot of the time

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when you went to the bathroom at night, the footsteps

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that I feel like it was probably the same presence

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that followed above my head would come and walk or

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stomp sometimes all the way down the steps and then

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stop on the other side of the attic door when

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you're going to the bathroom. And there's one time that

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I will never forget when it was one night that

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I was going to the bathroom after it was dark

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and after everyone went to bed. My mom was sleeping,

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my brother was sleeping, and I didn't fall asleep for

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a while, and I ended up having to go to

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the bathroom. So I built up the courage to go

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in there, and I was sitting down and all of

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a sudden, the stomps come crashing down the staircase, and

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I mean it was like it was like the most

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obnoxious this entity ever did it, and it just stopped

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right at the bottom, and I was just for a minute,

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I was petrified. I was just trying to breathe and

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thinking that this the attic doorway is going to swing open.

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Something is I know, you know, something is on the

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other side of the door right now, and it's staring

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at me and I can feel its presence, and so

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I got I started getting like getting ready to get

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out of there as fast as I could. But before

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I can leave the bathroom, it stomped back up the

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staircase and it was just it With every step, it

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crashed its foot as hard as it possibly could, and

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it just slammed its way up the staircase and went

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back up into the attic and I just ran to

483
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,200
my room and shut the door, and it was not

484
00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:49,480
easy getting to sleep the night, no doubt it.

485
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:57,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, with this making noise and everything else, Like, what

486
00:31:57,079 --> 00:32:00,920
do you think it could have been as a is

487
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,759
it right? Like when it comes to stuff that's like

488
00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:09,559
paranormal in a sense, like a spiritual and even like

489
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,519
to an extent when people say bigfoot, are these spiritual

490
00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:16,680
type things, they still lease some sort of a physical

491
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,960
that they make noise, they leave a footprint, Like if

492
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,839
this thing's making noise, ites have to interact with the

493
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,680
surrounding areas, so therefore it has to have some sort

494
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,359
of physical manifestation.

495
00:32:31,839 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that these that other other beings or

496
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:45,839
spirits are they can all interact and affect the physical

497
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,640
realm or kind of slightly manifest into the physical realm

498
00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:56,480
just enough to make noise or speak or maybe show

499
00:32:56,519 --> 00:33:00,160
themselves just slightly, you know, or if someone sees like

500
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:02,960
you know, the mist of an apparition or something like that.

501
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:10,079
And yeah, so they they can. They can, definitely. It

502
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,799
is it is interesting to think like how they do it,

503
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,039
but I know that they do that. They that they're

504
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:19,480
on there, they're in the other realm, and that's kind

505
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,119
of where they're residing like we are. Residing in this realm,

506
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:28,359
but that they're able to kind of crossover, whether it's

507
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,799
just a little bit just enough so that we hear them,

508
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,720
or whether it's complete, like total crossover where we see

509
00:33:34,759 --> 00:33:38,559
their full form and where we can touch them, or

510
00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:43,680
you know, yeah, it is. It is really wild to

511
00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:50,880
think about that, the fact that that that happens.

512
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,359
Speaker 2: I don't know how I'd ever go to sleep if

513
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,400
I was hearing all that noise.

514
00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: Again, it was, it was, It was definitely. It was

515
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,480
a struggle. I mean there was I I always shut

516
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:08,239
my door at night as I was growing up, just

517
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,079
so I wouldn't have to listen to the things that

518
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:12,599
happened outside of my room and above my room in

519
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:15,840
the attic, because that just added to, you know, the

520
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,760
things that I was able to hear and sense. So

521
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,760
I felt like I kind of at least limited it

522
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,920
to my bedroom, and I fell asleep at the light

523
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,760
on and kept the light on all night countless times

524
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,000
throughout my childhood because it at least it made it

525
00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:33,239
feel like it was daytime, and at least I was

526
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,800
a little bit had a little bit more comfort than

527
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,960
I would have it was totally dark, But I mean,

528
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,800
there were times when things would come and sit on

529
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,599
the end of my bed, and I would see the comforter,

530
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:46,599
you know, squashed down at the at the end of

531
00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:49,559
my bed where I sent this presence come in. And

532
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:55,199
there were there was there were a lot of times

533
00:34:55,239 --> 00:35:00,559
when I I sat out on the roof right next

534
00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:03,159
to my bedroom because I had one window that faced

535
00:35:03,159 --> 00:35:05,559
the street, and then I had another window that faced

536
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:07,800
the roof, and it was kind of like you could

537
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,960
step right down into the roof that was over the

538
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,960
porch right out out of my bedroom. And so I

539
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:16,239
sat out there a lot just to kind of clear

540
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,800
my head. But the crazy thing is I so I

541
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:24,360
got so I got so tuned to sensing these things

542
00:35:24,639 --> 00:35:27,239
without seeing or hearing them. I could sense when something

543
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,599
was coming into the room or or approaching me before

544
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,000
I before it manifested as you know, something I could

545
00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:39,039
see or sound or anything like that. And so there

546
00:35:39,079 --> 00:35:42,639
were actually times where I would sit on the porch

547
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,400
roof just outside of my bedroom window and I would

548
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,599
sense something come across my room and I had my

549
00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:52,800
back to the window, and I would sense it come

550
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,639
all the way to the window, and I sense I

551
00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:57,519
would sense its presence just very heavy just staring right

552
00:35:57,559 --> 00:36:01,199
at me and some of the things in the house,

553
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,559
you know, they had the strength and the ability to

554
00:36:03,679 --> 00:36:06,159
lift me and launch me down the staircase. And so

555
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,000
I actually kept a book in the in the window

556
00:36:11,559 --> 00:36:13,960
so that it wouldn't shut because those old windows, if

557
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,719
you let it shut from the outside, you couldn't get

558
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,599
it back open, and so I had to leave it

559
00:36:18,639 --> 00:36:21,079
cracked otherwise I wouldn't be able to get back in

560
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:22,960
the house. And so I always had a book with

561
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:26,679
me that I had that actually held to the entire time.

562
00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:29,880
I wouldn't let the book go because I was afraid

563
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,079
that something was going to pull it out so that

564
00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:35,159
I couldn't come back in. And so yeah, so I

565
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,440
would always hold the book extra tight when I felt

566
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,559
something come up behind me, and I knew that a

567
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:44,320
presence was there right at the window inside the house

568
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,280
when I was trying to get some air and escape

569
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:47,760
a little bit.

570
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,039
Speaker 2: I'm reading through the original email that you sent me,

571
00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:55,159
and the one thing that I really want to discuss

572
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,159
before we wrap things up here in a little bit

573
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,639
you'd mention and you were taken to a cube shaped UFO.

574
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,679
I would like to know a little bit more about

575
00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:13,400
this cube shaped UFO because I haven't recorded the episode,

576
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,599
but I know someone that has seen something like this,

577
00:37:18,599 --> 00:37:20,639
but it's not something you hear very often.

578
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: It's not, and I would love to I can't wait

579
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,719
to hear there what they've seen too, because it's it's

580
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,840
not something that I've ran into very often either. Actually,

581
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:40,159
the first person I spoke to about this, like over

582
00:37:40,199 --> 00:37:44,880
the phone was was I about a month ago, and

583
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:47,679
I'm waiting for this podcast episode to get released, hopefully

584
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,079
next week or the week after is I was on

585
00:37:51,199 --> 00:37:57,840
with Whitley Strieber, and he also talked about encountering a

586
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:04,039
cube shaped UFO several times throughout his life. And so

587
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,320
I know that other people have seen it, but it's like,

588
00:38:10,519 --> 00:38:12,280
I know, you hear about like the disk or the

589
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,719
triangular shaped a lot or the tic tac shape, but

590
00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:18,840
the cube shaped is like is not really something that

591
00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:26,000
is as heard of. So so yeah, this encounter, it

592
00:38:26,119 --> 00:38:28,599
happened when I was about six or seven years old,

593
00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:31,280
and I was laying in bed one night at the

594
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,880
Briton house and I was awake still. I was just

595
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,920
kind of I had my eyes open and I was

596
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,639
just kind of trying to get sleepy and I had

597
00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:40,920
my door shut and I did have the lights off

598
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,800
that night, and I remember just kind of like looking

599
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,039
at the moonlight that was shining through the blinds on

600
00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:50,719
my wall, and I was just just laying there thinking,

601
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,960
and all of a sudden, I felt, I felt a

602
00:38:56,039 --> 00:38:58,719
presence come near me, and I knew that I was

603
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:06,400
not alone. And then these two angelic beings manifested above

604
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,719
me when I was laying there in bed, and they

605
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:16,199
looked like the They were like these women with big wings,

606
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,519
and they had these white gowns on and they just

607
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,159
they were just looking at me. And then what they

608
00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:27,599
did was they reached out and they put their hands

609
00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:31,320
underneath me, and then they pulled me up, but they

610
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,800
pulled my spiritual body out from my physical body. So

611
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:40,719
they separated me and I felt myself like pop out

612
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:46,039
of my physical body. And when I did, and I

613
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:49,920
had felt I had felt this freedom so many times

614
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,920
before that and after that, but for some this was

615
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,559
just such a powerful experience, maybe because I was also

616
00:39:55,679 --> 00:40:02,280
in their presence, But that that place that I entered

617
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:07,920
into fully that was home. And as soon as I

618
00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:11,559
was out, and I watched my physical body lay there

619
00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:15,159
in bed as I was lifted up higher into the air,

620
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:19,119
and the physical world was at that point it was

621
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:23,039
a dream, it was a memory. And so they lifted

622
00:40:23,039 --> 00:40:27,119
me through the ceiling and through the roof of the house,

623
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:34,000
and they started carrying me through the sky, and we

624
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,599
were going higher and higher in the night sky, and

625
00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:40,719
I and we started going through some clouds, and then

626
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:43,960
we went through this break in the clouds and off

627
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,000
in the distance, up a little bit higher was this

628
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:52,360
floating cube, and it was probably the size of a house,

629
00:40:53,079 --> 00:40:56,679
but it was just it was just stationary in the clouds,

630
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,440
and it was like this dark gray, maybe with a

631
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,000
little bit of a tint of blue in it, like

632
00:41:01,039 --> 00:41:06,679
a dark steel blue. And it had no signs of propulsion,

633
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,760
It had no signs of an engine or fuel. It

634
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,480
had no sound. And so when we got up to it,

635
00:41:14,519 --> 00:41:18,199
when we got close enough the side of it that

636
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,880
we were facing, it opened up so that we can

637
00:41:21,039 --> 00:41:23,760
enter in. But it wasn't like a doorway where it

638
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,440
would where we know a doorway would open. The entire

639
00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:32,039
side of this cube lowered its density so that we

640
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:36,519
could pass through it, and so we passed through the wall,

641
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,960
and then after passing through its density was regained it.

642
00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:44,239
It came back to the solid structure that it was

643
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:49,559
just a second ago. And so inside was one big

644
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,039
room and it was bright white. All of the walls,

645
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:57,519
the ceilings, the floor, everything was shining with this white light.

646
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:03,360
It wasn't blinding, but it was it was glowing white.

647
00:42:03,639 --> 00:42:06,880
And there were all of these boxes on the floor,

648
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:13,719
like moving boxes is what they looked like. And the

649
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,360
two beings set me in one of the boxes that

650
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,559
were close to the wall, and on the wall there

651
00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:23,440
was a shelf, and so the being set me down

652
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,519
and they floated to the corner of the room and

653
00:42:25,559 --> 00:42:29,239
they just started watching me, observing me, and I looked

654
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,280
up at the shelf and it was it was I

655
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,480
think I remember it being three tiers, and there were

656
00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:40,480
items across each shelf. I don't remember exactly what the

657
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,639
items were, but small little like trinkets and items were

658
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:47,800
on each shelf. And I hadn't and I received this

659
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,119
understanding that I needed to reach for one of those

660
00:42:51,159 --> 00:42:56,159
items on the shelf. So I was about six or seven,

661
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,559
and this box I was standing in was probably my chest,

662
00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:02,719
and so it was a pretty big box. But I

663
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,800
mean I was small, I was a child, so maybe

664
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,440
it wasn't too big, but it was big enough where

665
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,480
I was not able to just like step out of it.

666
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,480
And so I stood on my toes and I was

667
00:43:12,559 --> 00:43:15,719
reaching as far as I could to try and reach

668
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,719
for one of these items on the shelf, and I

669
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,000
just could not reach. And so I turned around and

670
00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:24,280
looked at the beings that took me there kind of

671
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:29,880
for direction, and they transferred telepathically this encouragement into my being.

672
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,639
And so I turned around and I tried again and again,

673
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:37,679
and I just couldn't reach it. And so they they

674
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,719
came to me, and they lifted me out of the

675
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:45,719
box and another thing in the cube on the other

676
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,159
side of it, the opposite side from where we came in.

677
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,159
That side was opened slightly where these two men that

678
00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:55,239
I knew were not human, even though they kind of

679
00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:00,599
seemed to look human, they were loading bax is either

680
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:04,000
in or out from a craft that was hovering outside

681
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,079
of the cube on that side. So there was a

682
00:44:06,119 --> 00:44:09,000
craft hovering on the other side of the cube that

683
00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:11,199
was a lot smaller than the cube, and they were

684
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:17,039
loading boxes in or out of that craft. And so

685
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,000
the after I couldn't reach anything on the shelf, the

686
00:44:21,039 --> 00:44:23,400
two beings took me out of the box, and they

687
00:44:23,639 --> 00:44:26,480
took me out of the cube, and they carried me

688
00:44:26,519 --> 00:44:28,920
back through the sky and through the roof of the

689
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,039
Burton House and through the ceiling in my bedroom, and

690
00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:35,679
they set me back into my physical body. And I

691
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:41,880
felt myself like snap back in and my two bodies rejoin,

692
00:44:42,679 --> 00:44:45,559
and I just and as soon as I joined my

693
00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:49,920
physical body, they were gone, and I was by myself again,

694
00:44:50,519 --> 00:44:54,199
and I just laid there and I was like vibrating,

695
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,760
and I just laid there and I was just I

696
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,159
was excited and I was in shock, and I had

697
00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:05,400
so many questions. So yeah, that was that was that encounter,

698
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:13,519
and that was my second really really amazing experience after

699
00:45:13,639 --> 00:45:15,800
the three Golden Beings.

700
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,519
Speaker 2: The Golden beans, how big were they?

701
00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: They were probably about the size of maybe maybe a

702
00:45:31,519 --> 00:45:35,239
nine year old or a ten year old, okay, yeah,

703
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,280
like a young child, not a toddler, but a little

704
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:39,599
you know, like a child.

705
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 2: It's about between four to five feet.

706
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it maybe four feet okay, maybe maybe three

707
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,920
and a half or four feet tall if they were standing.

708
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's usually about the size. People depict some

709
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,199
of these beans to be. So yeah, again kind of

710
00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:04,880
aligns with all of that. Before we wrap this up,

711
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,760
I would like to talk a little bit about your book.

712
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,199
You said you've written all of the stuff, of all

713
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,800
the things you've experienced, we've only scratched the surface on

714
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,119
a little bit of it today. What made you decide

715
00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:19,559
that you wanted to write this book? Was there something

716
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:21,199
that just kind of clicked and be like, you know what,

717
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,519
I want to start documenting this stuff? Like what was

718
00:46:23,559 --> 00:46:27,119
your motivation to turn all this into a book?

719
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: So it all started when I was actually really little

720
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:38,679
and these all these types of beings that I was encountering,

721
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:43,159
some of them, I'm not sure exactly which ones, but

722
00:46:43,199 --> 00:46:46,559
I know that it was it was more of the

723
00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:50,159
the good ones that they told me telepathically when I

724
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,440
was little that I was going to write a book

725
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,519
about the things that I've seen. And so just a

726
00:46:56,559 --> 00:47:00,039
couple of years ago, so I've always known that I

727
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:02,199
was going to write a book about these things, and

728
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,800
all throughout my life, I've had encounter after encounter, and

729
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:11,239
it's been constant, basically, and so I I was always like,

730
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,679
you know, I can't wait, you know, to write a

731
00:47:13,679 --> 00:47:16,519
book about this. But it was never the time. It

732
00:47:16,559 --> 00:47:20,559
was never because writing a book it takes so much time,

733
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,719
and it takes at least a couple of years, and

734
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,079
you know, it takes a lot, and it was never

735
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:26,920
really the time too, and I also didn't feel like

736
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,000
it was the right time. But a couple of years ago,

737
00:47:32,519 --> 00:47:37,559
I just I started getting these these signs and these synchronicities,

738
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:39,400
and then all of a sudden, it was just I

739
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,079
had this opportunity come up where I just I had

740
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:47,960
the ability to finally write it, and I was just told, like,

741
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:49,840
now is the time to write it. I actually had

742
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,679
a voice come into my head and say, right, so

743
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,079
others can be captivated by your mind. That was the

744
00:47:56,159 --> 00:47:59,719
exact words that came from this source that let me

745
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,760
know that now is the time to write what I've seen.

746
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,800
And so I started writing, and it was it was

747
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:16,199
such such a journey bringing everything that I've ever seen

748
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,800
to the surface, and because there was a lot of

749
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,079
really really traumatic experiences that I had at the Briton House,

750
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,840
and some of them are actually still resurfacing and being

751
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,800
you know, coming forward to this day, and I know

752
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:38,039
that I have so many memories that I are kind

753
00:48:38,039 --> 00:48:41,079
of buried in my subconscious that I don't have complete

754
00:48:41,079 --> 00:48:45,239
access to yet. And I also have a lot of

755
00:48:46,119 --> 00:48:49,360
blocks of time for my childhood that I completely do

756
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,760
not recall. I have a lot of times that I

757
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,880
when I was growing up that are totally blacked out.

758
00:48:56,559 --> 00:49:00,840
And so it was a real journey bringing everything to

759
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:07,079
the surface as I wrote it from the moment that

760
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:12,239
first encounter happened up until today, and actually as I

761
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,360
wrote for because I started writing in June of twenty

762
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,880
twenty four up until this February of twenty twenty six,

763
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,320
so it was just over write about a year and

764
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:27,679
a half that I was writing and you know, doing

765
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,320
all the other stuff that it takes to finish it up.

766
00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:34,920
But things kept happening, and so I kept having to

767
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,559
add more and more experiences to the end of the

768
00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:42,880
book as I was writing the book. And yeah, so

769
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,159
on top of that, on top of knowing that this

770
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:49,440
is part of my purpose here, because I know that

771
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:56,679
I'm meant to speak up about these things and be

772
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,800
someone who kind of opens helps open the door for

773
00:50:01,159 --> 00:50:05,280
other people to feel comfortable talking about this stuff. But

774
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:11,239
on top of that, I I'm so I'm so glad

775
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,400
and I'm so grateful to be a voice for people

776
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,599
who feel like they can't talk about this stuff, whether

777
00:50:17,639 --> 00:50:20,519
it's an abduction experience, or whether they grew up in

778
00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:23,239
a haunted house, or whether you know it was this

779
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,480
or that, or they had an out of body experience

780
00:50:25,519 --> 00:50:30,079
and they think they're going crazy, or or maybe they

781
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,400
you know, they understand it, but they feel like they

782
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,239
can't talk to anyone about it because you know, they

783
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,559
might be labeled crazy, or they their reputation at work

784
00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:42,599
could be ruined or or whatever. There's there's so many

785
00:50:42,639 --> 00:50:45,880
people who who have these experiences, and a lot of

786
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:50,199
them feel they can't say anything about it. And I

787
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,199
think that has to change. And I know a lot

788
00:50:52,199 --> 00:50:55,360
of people, as time goes on, are realizing that that

789
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,679
does have to change. And I'm so excited to be

790
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,000
one of the people that tell them my full story

791
00:51:01,559 --> 00:51:04,639
and it's raw and I don't hold anything back, and

792
00:51:05,639 --> 00:51:09,440
I go through every single detail that I can possibly remember,

793
00:51:10,119 --> 00:51:13,360
and yeah, I'm just I'm so glad to be a

794
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,800
voice for people and so that you know, and maybe they'll,

795
00:51:19,039 --> 00:51:22,239
you know, they'll see some of my some of their

796
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,199
experiences in mind when they read my story and all

797
00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:29,320
the things that I've seen because I know that. Actually,

798
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,599
as I was writing, I listened to I think it

799
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,760
was twenty two or twenty three audiobooks on this subject

800
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:42,199
as I was writing, and there were times where I

801
00:51:42,199 --> 00:51:47,440
would start crying because I heard someone else's experience that

802
00:51:47,519 --> 00:51:50,679
reflected mine that I had never had that felt that

803
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,880
connection before. I never knew anyone else saw this specific

804
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,559
thing or experience this specific thing, so just to know that,

805
00:51:58,159 --> 00:52:00,280
and I have already had readers reach out to me

806
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,760
and be like, I've never talked to anyone about this,

807
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,920
but oh my gosh, I couldn't believe when I heard this,

808
00:52:05,079 --> 00:52:07,199
you know, this specific thing that you saw it was

809
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:12,440
I saw that too, and I it like warms my

810
00:52:12,519 --> 00:52:16,960
heart to know that I can make other people feel

811
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:23,760
that way, that comfort, that that that sense of of

812
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:28,679
connection or kind of the community might not be the

813
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:33,440
right word, but kind of that feeling that they're a

814
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,480
part of something much bigger, and that there are other

815
00:52:36,519 --> 00:52:39,559
people that have these experiences too.

816
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: I was trying to think, like, without sounding cliche or whatever,

817
00:52:49,039 --> 00:52:53,360
but why do you think they chose you?

818
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,679
Speaker 1: That is a question that I do still have because

819
00:52:59,679 --> 00:53:02,280
I know that a lot of a lot of the

820
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,760
so I've really, I've really I've always been into this stuff,

821
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,760
kind of researching it, reading about it, talking to people

822
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,000
about it. But these past couple of years, I've been

823
00:53:11,039 --> 00:53:15,639
really really diving deep. And most of the things that

824
00:53:15,679 --> 00:53:21,199
I hear from other experiencers is they grew up without

825
00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:23,679
this stuff and at the age of twenty five or

826
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,920
at the age of forty five, they have this wild

827
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,199
encounter that changes their life or you know, and that

828
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,639
kind of opens the door to a couple other things

829
00:53:32,639 --> 00:53:37,360
that might happen. But it's not It's not very common

830
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,519
that you hear from another experience or that they were

831
00:53:44,519 --> 00:53:49,800
that they were born being taken and taken out of

832
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:55,320
body and tested and taught things and encountered with all

833
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,840
these sorts of beings and I and that never asked

834
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,119
for it, Like I never, as you know, as a

835
00:54:01,159 --> 00:54:03,320
childler as a child, or even growing up, I never

836
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,679
I never went out of my way and said, Okay,

837
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,840
I want to I want to know, I want to

838
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,039
be I want to have an encounter. I want to

839
00:54:10,039 --> 00:54:12,639
have an It just happened. It came to me, and

840
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:18,679
so I do wonder, you know, why, why me? Was

841
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:23,760
there something about me after I was born that like

842
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,079
my aura that they saw was a good fit for

843
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:33,559
some purpose, some specific thing, or was it? Was it

844
00:54:33,639 --> 00:54:37,440
something I agreed to before I came into this specific

845
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:43,719
physical life. But I do know that from it and

846
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:50,960
from being immersed in this this other worldly stuff since

847
00:54:51,679 --> 00:54:55,639
the beginning of my life, that I that I my

848
00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:04,360
purpose is to open other people's eyes it and to

849
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,400
to help shed light on these things.

850
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:16,199
Speaker 2: I wonder if and this is not necessarily anything anyone

851
00:55:16,199 --> 00:55:18,280
can answer, but like I wonder if people like you,

852
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,760
people like these other experiences, and even what I do

853
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,639
here at this shows again giving people the opportunity to

854
00:55:25,679 --> 00:55:28,280
share their experiences because I'm also an experiencer as well.

855
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,760
Are we doing this by design? Because they're supposed to

856
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,519
be helping people out hope and trying to get people

857
00:55:35,559 --> 00:55:38,920
to awaken to these things. But if that is the case,

858
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,599
why are we all just not aware of it in

859
00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:44,519
the first place? Why do we have to be become

860
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:46,760
aware of this? Like what happened to us to not

861
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,400
be knowing of these other entities, these other beings? Like

862
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,920
where does Again it goes back to what I'd said

863
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,320
earlier about how I think we're capable of a lot

864
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,239
of things, But we're shut off from it somehow, there's

865
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,840
like a disconnect. And if they're trying to reconnect that

866
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,239
with us, who shut it off? How do we get

867
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,960
disconnected in the first place? And why is it such

868
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:12,280
a specific person that gets targeted out to do this

869
00:56:12,679 --> 00:56:15,280
rather than a mass of awakening.

870
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. I have the same questions, honestly, and it just

871
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,360
leads to so many more questions, these big questions like

872
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:35,239
why why are we disconnected from from our abilities today?

873
00:56:36,079 --> 00:56:39,880
How long ago did that happen? Why did it happen?

874
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,920
Who did it? Did we do it to ourselves? Was

875
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,559
it an external source that did it to us? Was

876
00:56:44,599 --> 00:56:49,280
it some malevolent being that did it to us? Was

877
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,960
it a whole Yeah? I mean you could you could

878
00:56:53,039 --> 00:56:59,119
really go anywhere with like, you know, wondering how that happened.

879
00:56:59,559 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's like the age old question of why

880
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,159
are we here? Like what's our purpose? Like we're not

881
00:57:09,199 --> 00:57:10,960
going to get that answer. And I think the more

882
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,360
we dig into it and the more people become aware

883
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,519
of its great. But at the end of the day,

884
00:57:16,559 --> 00:57:18,440
I don't think we're ever going to have the answer,

885
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,079
at least not in my lifetime to where we are,

886
00:57:22,519 --> 00:57:24,280
who we are why we are who we are, Like,

887
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,320
what is the purpose? I think there's more to it.

888
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,880
It's just a matter of I don't know if we

889
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,920
get that in this physical form that.

890
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: We're in right now, why we're here in our purpose

891
00:57:37,719 --> 00:57:43,440
I feel is just to have that like I feel

892
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,599
that we were created to have that bond with the

893
00:57:47,679 --> 00:57:52,280
Creator and the others that were created and to just

894
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:59,480
experience this incredible life. But it's supposed to be so

895
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,280
much more incredible than what we experience right now, because

896
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:08,960
we're really fully bound by the physical and material and

897
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,599
we're not supposed to be. That wasn't the original intention

898
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:17,280
for humanity to be like closed off from the other

899
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,679
realms and from the other dimensions and from their abilities

900
00:58:20,719 --> 00:58:23,039
and from all these incredible things that we can do.

901
00:58:25,239 --> 00:58:27,920
So this life as we experience it today, it's like

902
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,079
it makes it harder for people to be like, you know,

903
00:58:31,159 --> 00:58:35,159
why am I here? Because you know, this physical world

904
00:58:35,239 --> 00:58:40,039
can be pretty dull, it could be pretty like purposeless

905
00:58:40,199 --> 00:58:45,719
in some instances. And but like then, but when you

906
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:50,760
tap into the true nature of this life we're actually

907
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:58,480
in and escape these like this, these restrictions that we have,

908
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,719
it changes that and it opens up like, oh my gosh,

909
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,519
there's there's so much more, and it means so much

910
00:59:07,559 --> 00:59:11,159
more than just the physical or material world. It has

911
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:18,840
such a deeper meaning, and the opportunities are endless, and

912
00:59:19,079 --> 00:59:26,880
the experiences are endless, and yeah, the it's it's hard

913
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:31,559
to put words on but yeah, I mean, we're here

914
00:59:31,639 --> 00:59:34,360
for a greater purpose than what we're experiencing right now,

915
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:39,960
and we're I just something just tells me that that's

916
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,840
that's going to change soon. Those things, those doors are

917
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:49,880
going to start opening again and us discovering who we

918
00:59:50,039 --> 00:59:56,400
really are and is going to start happening within my lifetime.

919
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:01,400
I'm thirty one, and so I just feel that within

920
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,800
the next fifty years, we're going to start once again

921
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:11,119
seeing these and experiencing and performing these things that people

922
01:00:11,239 --> 01:00:14,039
now would say is sci fi or is fake or

923
01:00:14,119 --> 01:00:18,760
is you know, is crazy. But I feel that we're

924
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:24,239
going to start really understanding life again and why we're

925
01:00:24,239 --> 01:00:25,440
here and who we are.

926
01:00:25,679 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 2: What we're doing right now used to be considered sci fi. Right,

927
01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:33,519
So I don't doubt that we're going to have a

928
01:00:33,559 --> 01:00:36,679
lot of advancements when it comes to technologies and the

929
01:00:36,679 --> 01:00:39,360
things that we think about today will be in the

930
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:44,880
next fifty years will be different, but we can probably

931
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,679
wrap this up, and I want you to let everyone

932
01:00:48,719 --> 01:00:51,159
know that's listening where they can find your book at.

933
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can find my book on Amazon and

934
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:00,000
it's called Born Awakened and other Worldly True Story by

935
01:01:00,039 --> 01:01:05,360
Mantha Lifeger. And you can also find me on Instagram, Facebook, Reddit, TikTok,

936
01:01:07,239 --> 01:01:09,719
and substack by looking up Born Awakened.

937
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 2: You mentioned reddit. That's how we actually got connected originally.

938
01:01:15,039 --> 01:01:18,119
How is it How has your reddit experienced so far?

939
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:24,519
Speaker 1: So I've known what reddit was for some years now,

940
01:01:24,519 --> 01:01:28,920
but I never really got into using it until I

941
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:34,400
started writing. And so I'm a part of like a

942
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:39,360
lot of the experiencer groups, the UFO groups, the paranormal

943
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:43,079
groups and stuff like that, and it really it's been

944
01:01:43,159 --> 01:01:47,039
really cool to be able to connect with people who

945
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:51,920
are just loving to talk about this stuff. There's a

946
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:56,480
lot of there's a lot of people that that really

947
01:01:56,519 --> 01:01:58,840
open up about this stuff on there, and it's really

948
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:03,199
cool to see. And I actually, uh, I think it

949
01:02:03,239 --> 01:02:05,440
was just a couple of months ago, maybe just a

950
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,519
month or two ago, that I created a subreddit called

951
01:02:08,599 --> 01:02:14,320
ask Experiencers, And so I think there's one hundred and

952
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:18,039
fifty some people on it so far. But it's it's fun.

953
01:02:18,159 --> 01:02:23,079
I I really, I really grew to like Reddit a lot,

954
01:02:23,159 --> 01:02:27,760
and I've actually connected with you and with several other

955
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:33,039
people on there over this stuff. And it's yeah, it's

956
01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:36,000
I love it. It's it's it's cool, and it's it's

957
01:02:36,159 --> 01:02:41,280
unique from you know, Facebook or Instagram. It's it's nice

958
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,840
that there's it's just filled with these groups that people

959
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:49,280
can just spill their experiences into and share it with

960
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:49,760
each other.

961
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,199
Speaker 2: I need to find those groups because a lot of

962
01:02:52,239 --> 01:02:55,840
the ones that I get into are a lot of

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trolls involved.

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Speaker 1: There are. Yeah, I've noticed that certain groups, especially certain

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UFO groups, for some reason, I feel like there's a

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lot of people, like at least half of the people

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on some of those groups are just on there because

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they just want to tell people that their experiences are

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just not real, you know, like or they're just there

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to be an un unchangeable skeptic or you know, or

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to argue with people there. There. There is a lot

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of that on a lot of groups on Reddit, and

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especially certain ones. But I know that, sorry, the.

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Speaker 2: Cryptid groups are just as bad. Like literally, if someone

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posts a photo of something. They're getting harassed by so

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many people.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know I noticed that too when I

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first joined the a couple of cryptid groups, and I'm

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you know, so I I recognize the word cryptid as

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I mean, I know there's a couple of different definitions. Sure,

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but as you know, let's say bigfoot, dog man, mothman,

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you know, stuff like that. And so I did come

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across a couple other people posting it, and everybody's saying,

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this is not what a cryptid really is and this

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is not the scientific Like oh, okay, you.

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Speaker 2: Will have that with so many people. And because you

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just lum mothman and as a cryptid, someone would tell

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you that mothman is not encrypted, which I don't know

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how their definitions go, but mothmans to certain people are

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as not considered acrypted.

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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, whatever, Yeah, I don't know how

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it couldn't be.

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Speaker 2: Encrypted because they think it's probably a spiritual thing, or

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they also said it could be an interdimensional thing, or

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it was in fact just a large bird. I was like, okay, whatever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of things that happened

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and during that time that people were seeing the mothman,

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and and before the bridge collapsed that that a bird

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couldn't do. There was some really strange paranormal events that

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happened that you know, it goes way beyond some you know,

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material explanation or just an animal or But honestly, for me,

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when I think about cryptids and these you know, strange

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beings that people witness, I think that from For me,

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my definition of a cryptid is it is interdimensional, it

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is spiritual, it is whatever you want to say. They

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do go back and forth between the physical and wherever

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they came from, just like how people can see Bigfoot

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disappear all of a sudden, you know, out of just

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you know, all of a sudden, gone, He's disappeared. Or

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same thing with with a mothman or with with uh,

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what is it the it's not called wolf man. I

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don't know why I can't think of it the dog Man.

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I know there's a lot of stories up here in

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Michigan regarding the dog Man. But yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's a lot to them.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I could go on for a long time

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about all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Well, Samantha, again, for anyone listening, your book is called

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Born awakened. They can find it on Amazon, and you

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are available on Instagram, Facebook, Reddit, all the social media's.

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But it's been a pleasure talking to you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much for having me on. I

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appreciate you let me talk about all my experiences and

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my book and everything.

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Speaker 2: About how many pages is your book? For anyone that's curious.

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Speaker 1: It is two hundred and forty one, I believe, so

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good read for him. Yeah. Yeah, it's a good size.

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It's not too big, but it's it's long enough where

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it's got a lot of content in it.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, we're gonna wrap this up, so thanks

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for listening, Thanks to Samantha for being on here today,

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and we will check you guys out on the next one.

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