Speaker 1: And I just turned around and I call ass out
of there. I was done. I wasn't deal with them.
Speaker 2: The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things
that turned me.
Speaker 1: Away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on,
it turned and looked at us.
Speaker 2: And one of the things I remember the most, where
the eyes were going red. I see an orb of light.
Speaker 1: It is just circling these steps.
Speaker 2: Like it is waiting for me. And he begins to
tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically like, what
are you talking about. That's seven foot up on a tree,
peeking around it, and that's where I saw the top of.
Speaker 1: The muzzle, nose and the eyes. As soon as I
made eye contact with this thing, I don't like death.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Tenfoil Tells. I'm your host, Brandon and
I were joined by my guest Samantha. Samantha, thanks for
coming on here and talking to me.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me on.
Speaker 2: Would you like to let the audience know a little
bit about yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I am a mom from Michigan and I
am a lifelong experiencer. I've had other worldly encounters since
I was born, and I was born and raised in
a poultry geist house in Lansing, Michigan, and I just
I've finally just published a book about everything that I've
seen and everything that I've witnessed and experienced just a
couple months ago, where I go through every experience that
I've had over the past thirty years. So yeah, that's
I've had. I've had experiences from from the poultry gist
activity to UFOs to out of body experiences and extrasensory perceptions.
So yeah, this is this is right in my right
in my ballpark. I love talking about this stuff.
Speaker 2: So you're from Michigan. Have you been in Michigan your
whole life? Yep, you're not too far from I think
my dad. I don't think it was Lancing, but originally
I think he was in Jackson when he was born
and then they moved to Florida, But yeah, he was
from up in that area a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yep, I know where that is. I'm at this point,
I'm just a couple hours north of Lancing, Okay, but
the house I grew up in was in Lancing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I would like to you wrote a book,
and before we kind of like the topics of your book.
I don't want to spoil it for anyone that would
want to look into the book, But is there a
few things that you experienced when you were younger they
kind of led you to on this path of wanting
to write about it, Like, what were some of the
things that set off this whole chain of events for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the house I was born in, it was
I call it the Briton House because Britain was the
name of the street, so that's just kind of what
we call it. And it was built in nineteen twenty
three in an old neighborhood in Lansing, and I have
had just living there was like constant experience after experience.
But my first ever encounter, my first memory actually was
an out of body experience. That was an encounter with
three golden beings. And I was only about it was
before I could speak, so I was maybe between one
and two years old, and what I remember was being
out of body at the top of the staircase and
having a being to my left and one to my right,
and then looking down the staircase there was a third
one at the bottom of the staircase looking up at us,
and they were they were floating, and they were these transparent,
like they kind of looked like your typical chairub angel
being just a little bit different, and they were. They
were transparent, but all of their details were outlined in
gold glitter, and so it looked like they were very detailed,
and it looked like they were just drawn so detailed
with gold. And they spoke telepathically to me, and they
also expressed their their emotions and their intention and what
they were feeling and what they what they were asking
of me. And I feel like they also they also
transferred some of their abilities and yeah, through this telepathic
bridge that was between me and all three of them.
And when I was out of body during this experience,
I remember how heightened it was being in the other
realm and being in my eternal body in their presence,
and it was like it was it was such a
it was such an incredible experience, and it was such
it was it was it opened the door. So it
like so wide open for these things for me for
the rest of my life. And I call it it's
the first chapter in my book where I talk about this,
because I kind of go go like in chronological order
of all my experiences, and I call it Summoned for initiation,
because I feel like I was summoned out of body
by these beings for this initiation into the other realms
and into this connection with the other side. And so
I was I was. I was standing between these two
beings at the top of the staircase, and they started
encouraging me to lift up off of the ground and levitate.
And I just had this this knowing within me of
kind of what to do and how to do it,
almost as if I was already familiar with the ability,
or maybe it was because they transferred it to me.
So I had that understanding. But I used the energy
within myself and I pulled it out and I interacted
my own energy with the energies that were that were
flowing all around me. And so I was in like
this ocean of of these currents that were that were
like they had sound and they had energy, and they
had a tone and they had and I could almost
see some of them the light from them. It was
like you could see all of your senses were seeing
all of these things at once. And so I interacted that.
I used my own energy to interact with the field
around me to move up and down and left and right,
and so to like lift up through these currents that
were around me. It's really really hard to explain how
I did this with words, because it's so beyond words
how this happened. But basically I lifted off of the
ground and I was hovering then between the two and
then they told me to let you know, it's time
to go down the staircase. Now let's go down, and
so I leaned forward and I started floating down the staircase,
and they followed me all the way down. One was
on my left side, one was on my right side.
And I can still see the image or the like
the basically the the visuals of watching my feet pass
over the steps as I'm floating down the stairs and
having the steps like like as I'm floating down and
watching them pass beneath my feet. And so when I
get to the bottom and meet the third angel at
the bottom, then I'm surrounded by all three of them,
and they're blasting me with this amazing energy. They were celebrating,
and they weren't even using their faces like facial expressions
to let me know that they were happy or celebrating,
because they just had like these kind of like straight
kind looks on their faces, so they didn't use their
face to express themselves. They it was from the energy
that they were filling my being with. That's how I
knew that they were celebrating and that they were proud
of me, and that they they were excited. So that
was that was my first memory. That was my first
ever experience of my life, and it I don't know
what I would do without it, because it's like I
had their presence with me growing up in that haunted
house that had so many malicious and dark spirits that
I encountered day at night, and I know that I
was protected by not only God, but many guardians and
other worldly beings that came to protect me and guide me.
And they were deaf one of them or three of them.
But something that I realized as I was like, it's
kind of like I always knew it, but I didn't
really think too hard on it until I started writing
my book a couple of years ago, that during this encounter,
when I was out of body, even though my physical
body was a toddler, in that heightened state, like in
my higher self's body, I had the mindset that I
have now as an adult, like I wasn't restricted my
my awareness and my consciousness and my my mindset wasn't
restricted by the physical world brain of a toddler because
I was out of it. And yeah, that's that's that
was pretty interesting to think about too, because I didn't
really Yeah, I didn't really come to that conclusion, I
guess until recently, like, Yeah, I wasn't. I didn't feel
like a child at all. I felt like I do
right now. So that was my first experience.
Speaker 2: Your first experience is very reminiscent to a couple of
other people that I spoke to. Really, they had mentioned
before that they were levitated and they were brought down
the stairs and the similarities like that. It makes me
wonder how often is this one of the characteristics of
these types of experiences, because I think you're like, now
the third person that I've interviewed over the last couple
of years that have specifically mentioned like the telepathic conversation
of them telling them that like lifts them up levitating
them down. Wow, it's a It makes me wonder, like,
what what do you think these things were? Because when
I've talked to other people they thought they were aliens.
Do you see them as that or do you see
them as like a spiritual guardian.
Speaker 1: I definitely knew, just as an understanding, that they were
sent by something greater, and I know that they were
inner dimensional or you could use the word spiritual. Yeah,
so I know that if I was stuck in the
physical realm during the like, I probably wouldn't have been
able to visualize their form because they were on you know,
they were in that other realm or that higher dimension.
So since I was out of body and able to
access the visuals of you know, of that that height
in place, I was able to interact with them and
have that encounter. But yeah, I wouldn't for that those
specific beings, I wouldn't use the word alien. I have
encountered things that would fit that bill, but these ones
were more like like teachers or guardians.
Speaker 2: The one person that I interviewed, he originally thought they
were ghosts and then he'd saw I think it was
from a communion, the cover of communions what it was
he saw the alien on that when he was a child,
and then he realized that these things weren't ghosts, they
were beans.
Speaker 1: Wow, I've heard that so much where someone will specifically
Whitley's Communion cover where someone will see that and they
just have these flashbacks or the realization like that guy had.
But yeah, I wow, I have I have seen the
gray type of beings as well, and it is it
definitely does give you that like that feeling, like you
know that you've seen that, and that's really wild that
those beings that that did that with him were those
types of beings or that that was that was their form.
And I do question whether these beings whether that was
their true form, because I know that things can, these
these interdimensional beings, and and from my experience there is many, many,
many different different beings other than humans that are in
these other realms and other dimensions and that can also
step into the physical realm. But sorry, I'm just lost
my and oh man, I'm sorry I was saying that.
Oh gosh, what was I what was I.
Speaker 2: Saying that the beings like when people have recognized them
from his stuff? And then like, how you to you've
heard stuff like that? And then yours were and.
Speaker 1: It went off, Yeah, okay, I got it now, thank you.
That they can these interdimensional beings can they can? They
can show themselves as what they kind of like to
show themselves as as of like they can they can
project their form as kind of what would fit the
mind of the experiencer or the witness. And I've also
heard of you know, people, you know, maybe groups of
people having encounters with with one being and they all
see something different. So I, yeah, it just it makes
me question, you know, some of the encounters I've had
throughout my life, was the form that I was shown
their true form or was that just something that maybe
they thought that would give me comfort in the moment.
Speaker 2: I've often wondered, and this is gets brought up a
lot on different episodes, But I feel like a lot
of this stuff is all connected one way or the other.
So maybe when people see something, it's unique to them
in the sense of it's what they show the represent
themselves as, and our mind interprets it the best way
that we can. And obviously, when people experience things and
they question stuff that makes no sense, like, I don't
know if that's just because they want us to keep
questioning this stuff. They want us to look into it,
so they give us things that don't make any sort
of sense, because it continues to add to the mystery,
like are we not supposed to find out all the answers,
so they continuously lead of us breadcrumbs. But if you
go through history back in hundreds of years ago, they
used to talk about fairy abductions. They talked about the
faithfolk and everything. Well, nowadays we have alien abductions and
what we say where aliens are now all of a
sudden interdimensional mm hmm. So what if the fairies were
the things that now we call What if it's all
the same thing. It's just as we evolve and like
become more science techie, these things have also been adapting
to so they try and just adapt as we adapt.
So they only they represent whatever they think our brains
are capable of understanding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've I've heard that theory before, and I do
think that it applies to a lot of what people witness.
And I've I love, I love getting into this story
stories that that were recorded hundreds of years ago or
thousands of years ago with all these sorts of beings,
and then you tell you, you know, you get into
the fay folk and the little people and all of
these things that people really saw and they recorded what
they actually saw. You know, during the time of when
these things were recorded and written down, they weren't joking,
they weren't making up fiction. You know, they were actually
recording things that they really saw. And it does make
you wonder are they Are they the same? And I
think that I think that some of it is. But
at the same time, I think about how many different
types of things that I've seen, and how I felt
that they were different from one another, like in their
actual nature. And I know that people even today have
seen little people, or have seen what they would explain
as a fairy or you know, all sorts of different things.
I know, I've seen a little old dwarf woman that
might be explained as like a type of fay being,
you know, if you were talking a few hundred years ago.
But yeah, so I think some of it is. But
I also think that I do think that some of
these beings are different in nature.
Speaker 2: I don't think every single one is the same thing.
I think there are different variations of them. But I
still think a lot of it may come from the
same I don't know, I don't want to say reality,
but the same plane of existence. I guess wherever they're from,
I think they all kind of come from that real I.
Speaker 1: Agree, Yeah, And it's like you said, it's all connected.
I totally agree with that. I think that because I
know that sometimes people like to they like to group
these things separately, like the Bigfoot encounters are separate from
the UFO encounters, and and they're separate from the paranormal activity,
and they're separate from out of body experiences. But it's
all from this same realm. It's all from this. It's
like all of these things that are non physical that
people experience is the real nature, the true nature of reality,
just screaming at us like this is what These are
the things that surround us everywhere, and it comes that
there's just there's so much around us at all times,
and there's so many others and yeah, it's it all
and a lot of these beings are interdimensional. And honestly,
I think that you know, because we have we don't
just have this physical force. We also have a second body,
or a spiritual body, or an astrabody or an eternal body,
whatever someone you know would like to call it. But
I've also heard that we have a third body, depending
on you know, the culture that you're that you're looking at. Uh,
I believe it's I believe it's Hindu culture. That UH
recognize as a third body. And so I really do
believe that humans are also inner dimensional beings, but that
we have forgotten who we are, and we've forgotten our abilities,
and we have slowly but surely walked away from true nature.
And I think that now is the time for us
to kind of turn that around and step back into
our identity so that we we can do the things
that we're really capable of.
Speaker 2: Again, I think a lot of our ways are locked off.
And I don't know if that was done intentionally or not,
but I think there's a lot more that we are
capable of as a human with our mind that for
whatever reason, we just are not in tune with it
as we used to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that. I think so too,
I think from it being yeah, And like you said,
not sure if it's done intentionally, like if there was
an out outside source that that did that to us,
or if it was something that we kind of we
did to ourselves somehow, But I know that all of
these things still lie dormant within us, and it's it's
it's really the question is, you know, how do we
reactivate these things?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: But I know that I know that being exposed to
other worldly beings and presences and exposed to other realms
and having conscious experiences on the other side, does seem
to activate things that were lying dormant.
Speaker 2: What are some of the other things you've experienced, because
you said you've wrote about everything you've experienced within like
the last thirty years, So is there anything else that
you think would be interesting for the listeners that would
find appealing to the sense that maybe they would want
to check out the rest of your book, because we
just kind of scratched the surface on just what got you,
like your first experience, and that first experience is kind
of one of those experiences that sets the whole thing
up to where, I don't want to say, like the
sense of it set it up to like for more
interesting things like that, but like the floating ones that
are the ones that always get to me, Like if
your body is floating through the air, it's like that's
something you don't forget.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely not. Yeah, so I'll I'll get into the
house I grew up in a little bit, so because
that was like that was kind of like the things
that that kind of came along soon after that encounter
that first encounter because I had I had experiences in
this Poultrygeist house ever since I can remember, as far
back as my memory takes me, and I know that
things were happening there even before I was born, because
I got in touch with a woman that lived there
in the eighties that had very similar encounters as well,
So I know. I don't know if it's something to
do with the land the house is built on, or
if things were done there, you know, back in the
in the early nineteen hundreds that kind of brought on
some of this activity, or if it's both. My guess
is it's both. But some things that would happen there
on a regular basis growing up, and this was this
was day and night. This is not like this is
not like I would have an experience, you know, one
day and then like maybe six months later, something else
weird would happen. This was like every day, every night,
struggling like make it through to the next hour, to
the next day, make it through the night, just so
you could do it again, just so you can. It
was just it was constant. And so there were these
these heavy boot stomps that would follow above my head
all the time. There was we would see apparitions and
hear voices, and there was also there was also something.
I don't know if it was an actual entity or
if it was a strange I mean, my guess is
it was an entity, but it was some strange force
that when and this happened to me countless times growing
up at the Briton House, I would take those first
few steps down the stairs. So I was upstairs on
the second floor where the bedrooms were, walk down the hallway,
take those first few steps down the and then there
was this flat landing that would that the staircase would
turn and go the rest of the way down, and
you know, the rest of the way down was maybe
like seventeen eighteen more steps, and as soon as you
hit the landing and turned, I was lifted up into
the air and shot all the way down the staircase
at a really high speed. And my and it's crazy
because my legs in my arms would all be straight
up in the air and I was just barely hitting
the center of my back on each step on the
way down until I hit the bottom. And I wouldn't
trip and I wouldn't slip or fall nothing. I was
just lifted and shot down, and then when I hit
the bottom, then I wasn't able to take an air
into my lungs. I actually couldn't inhale, And so it
was I would sit there and I would pray that
I would be able to breathe in time before I suffocated,
and the air was allowed to come back into my
lungs every single time, right on time, right before I
started to feel like it was getting dangerous that I
couldn't breathe. And so this happened to me many many
times living there. It also happened to my brother, and
it happened to the residents that lived there before us.
And when I was writing, I actually got into contact
with the woman that lived there the decade before me,
and I found out that this happening to her and
her sister getting lifted and shot down the staircase and
getting hurt on the steps like that, Well, just they're back.
Actually the same thing would happen to them, were the
center of their back was just barely smacking the steps
as they're a shot all the way down. And they
were the reason that the steps were carpeted when I
was there, because thankfully the steps were carpeted when this
happened to me in the nineties and into the early
two thousands, but for her they were bear would And
so I when I when I heard that, I was like,
oh my gosh, I couldn't even imagine how much that
hurt to have your back slam. The bear would all
the way down the steps all the time. And the
same thing is everyone who experienced this, they never tripped
or fell. They were actually lifted and then shot. So
that's something that that happened on a regular living there.
And then there was the attic doorway was in the
only bathroom in the house, So down the hallway from
the bedrooms that was the bathroom on the second floor,
and across from the toilet and the sink was the
attic door. And the attic staircase ran up against the
wall in the bathroom to go up into the attic
and the door. Now that door, that original door, is
no longer there. I know that because I'm in contact
with the current residence. But the door, the doors in
the Brinton House were like those old wooden doors were
like they had the like the dark brass kind of
like flat circular handles, and they had the rectangle of
the brass behind it, and they had like the skeleton
keyhole underneath the handle, and so we would open the
door the attic door, and inside of the door were
hundreds of names that were written and carved into the
doorway from top to bottom, and then they actually were
put on the wall a little bit up into the
attic as if they couldn't all fit on the door.
And I've to this day I have no idea the
purpose of that, but it felt like it was a
really it was kind of really eerie creepy thing that
they were there like for some type of dark purpose.
And then the attic staircase was like this skinny little
staircase where only one person could really fit going up
at once. But anyway, so a lot of the time
when you went to the bathroom at night, the footsteps
that I feel like it was probably the same presence
that followed above my head would come and walk or
stomp sometimes all the way down the steps and then
stop on the other side of the attic door when
you're going to the bathroom. And there's one time that
I will never forget when it was one night that
I was going to the bathroom after it was dark
and after everyone went to bed. My mom was sleeping,
my brother was sleeping, and I didn't fall asleep for
a while, and I ended up having to go to
the bathroom. So I built up the courage to go
in there, and I was sitting down and all of
a sudden, the stomps come crashing down the staircase, and
I mean it was like it was like the most
obnoxious this entity ever did it, and it just stopped
right at the bottom, and I was just for a minute,
I was petrified. I was just trying to breathe and
thinking that this the attic doorway is going to swing open.
Something is I know, you know, something is on the
other side of the door right now, and it's staring
at me and I can feel its presence, and so
I got I started getting like getting ready to get
out of there as fast as I could. But before
I can leave the bathroom, it stomped back up the
staircase and it was just it With every step, it
crashed its foot as hard as it possibly could, and
it just slammed its way up the staircase and went
back up into the attic and I just ran to
my room and shut the door, and it was not
easy getting to sleep the night, no doubt it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with this making noise and everything else, Like, what
do you think it could have been as a is
it right? Like when it comes to stuff that's like
paranormal in a sense, like a spiritual and even like
to an extent when people say bigfoot, are these spiritual
type things, they still lease some sort of a physical
that they make noise, they leave a footprint, Like if
this thing's making noise, ites have to interact with the
surrounding areas, so therefore it has to have some sort
of physical manifestation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that these that other other beings or
spirits are they can all interact and affect the physical
realm or kind of slightly manifest into the physical realm
just enough to make noise or speak or maybe show
themselves just slightly, you know, or if someone sees like
you know, the mist of an apparition or something like that.
And yeah, so they they can. They can, definitely. It
is it is interesting to think like how they do it,
but I know that they do that. They that they're
on there, they're in the other realm, and that's kind
of where they're residing like we are. Residing in this realm,
but that they're able to kind of crossover, whether it's
just a little bit just enough so that we hear them,
or whether it's complete, like total crossover where we see
their full form and where we can touch them, or
you know, yeah, it is. It is really wild to
think about that, the fact that that that happens.
Speaker 2: I don't know how I'd ever go to sleep if
I was hearing all that noise.
Speaker 1: Again, it was, it was, It was definitely. It was
a struggle. I mean there was I I always shut
my door at night as I was growing up, just
so I wouldn't have to listen to the things that
happened outside of my room and above my room in
the attic, because that just added to, you know, the
things that I was able to hear and sense. So
I felt like I kind of at least limited it
to my bedroom, and I fell asleep at the light
on and kept the light on all night countless times
throughout my childhood because it at least it made it
feel like it was daytime, and at least I was
a little bit had a little bit more comfort than
I would have it was totally dark, But I mean,
there were times when things would come and sit on
the end of my bed, and I would see the comforter,
you know, squashed down at the at the end of
my bed where I sent this presence come in. And
there were there was there were a lot of times
when I I sat out on the roof right next
to my bedroom because I had one window that faced
the street, and then I had another window that faced
the roof, and it was kind of like you could
step right down into the roof that was over the
porch right out out of my bedroom. And so I
sat out there a lot just to kind of clear
my head. But the crazy thing is I so I
got so I got so tuned to sensing these things
without seeing or hearing them. I could sense when something
was coming into the room or or approaching me before
I before it manifested as you know, something I could
see or sound or anything like that. And so there
were actually times where I would sit on the porch
roof just outside of my bedroom window and I would
sense something come across my room and I had my
back to the window, and I would sense it come
all the way to the window, and I sense I
would sense its presence just very heavy just staring right
at me and some of the things in the house,
you know, they had the strength and the ability to
lift me and launch me down the staircase. And so
I actually kept a book in the in the window
so that it wouldn't shut because those old windows, if
you let it shut from the outside, you couldn't get
it back open, and so I had to leave it
cracked otherwise I wouldn't be able to get back in
the house. And so I always had a book with
me that I had that actually held to the entire time.
I wouldn't let the book go because I was afraid
that something was going to pull it out so that
I couldn't come back in. And so yeah, so I
would always hold the book extra tight when I felt
something come up behind me, and I knew that a
presence was there right at the window inside the house
when I was trying to get some air and escape
a little bit.
Speaker 2: I'm reading through the original email that you sent me,
and the one thing that I really want to discuss
before we wrap things up here in a little bit
you'd mention and you were taken to a cube shaped UFO.
I would like to know a little bit more about
this cube shaped UFO because I haven't recorded the episode,
but I know someone that has seen something like this,
but it's not something you hear very often.
Speaker 1: It's not, and I would love to I can't wait
to hear there what they've seen too, because it's it's
not something that I've ran into very often either. Actually,
the first person I spoke to about this, like over
the phone was was I about a month ago, and
I'm waiting for this podcast episode to get released, hopefully
next week or the week after is I was on
with Whitley Strieber, and he also talked about encountering a
cube shaped UFO several times throughout his life. And so
I know that other people have seen it, but it's like,
I know, you hear about like the disk or the
triangular shaped a lot or the tic tac shape, but
the cube shaped is like is not really something that
is as heard of. So so yeah, this encounter, it
happened when I was about six or seven years old,
and I was laying in bed one night at the
Briton house and I was awake still. I was just
kind of I had my eyes open and I was
just kind of trying to get sleepy and I had
my door shut and I did have the lights off
that night, and I remember just kind of like looking
at the moonlight that was shining through the blinds on
my wall, and I was just just laying there thinking,
and all of a sudden, I felt, I felt a
presence come near me, and I knew that I was
not alone. And then these two angelic beings manifested above
me when I was laying there in bed, and they
looked like the They were like these women with big wings,
and they had these white gowns on and they just
they were just looking at me. And then what they
did was they reached out and they put their hands
underneath me, and then they pulled me up, but they
pulled my spiritual body out from my physical body. So
they separated me and I felt myself like pop out
of my physical body. And when I did, and I
had felt I had felt this freedom so many times
before that and after that, but for some this was
just such a powerful experience, maybe because I was also
in their presence, But that that place that I entered
into fully that was home. And as soon as I
was out, and I watched my physical body lay there
in bed as I was lifted up higher into the air,
and the physical world was at that point it was
a dream, it was a memory. And so they lifted
me through the ceiling and through the roof of the house,
and they started carrying me through the sky, and we
were going higher and higher in the night sky, and
I and we started going through some clouds, and then
we went through this break in the clouds and off
in the distance, up a little bit higher was this
floating cube, and it was probably the size of a house,
but it was just it was just stationary in the clouds,
and it was like this dark gray, maybe with a
little bit of a tint of blue in it, like
a dark steel blue. And it had no signs of propulsion,
It had no signs of an engine or fuel. It
had no sound. And so when we got up to it,
when we got close enough the side of it that
we were facing, it opened up so that we can
enter in. But it wasn't like a doorway where it
would where we know a doorway would open. The entire
side of this cube lowered its density so that we
could pass through it, and so we passed through the wall,
and then after passing through its density was regained it.
It came back to the solid structure that it was
just a second ago. And so inside was one big
room and it was bright white. All of the walls,
the ceilings, the floor, everything was shining with this white light.
It wasn't blinding, but it was it was glowing white.
And there were all of these boxes on the floor,
like moving boxes is what they looked like. And the
two beings set me in one of the boxes that
were close to the wall, and on the wall there
was a shelf, and so the being set me down
and they floated to the corner of the room and
they just started watching me, observing me, and I looked
up at the shelf and it was it was I
think I remember it being three tiers, and there were
items across each shelf. I don't remember exactly what the
items were, but small little like trinkets and items were
on each shelf. And I hadn't and I received this
understanding that I needed to reach for one of those
items on the shelf. So I was about six or seven,
and this box I was standing in was probably my chest,
and so it was a pretty big box. But I
mean I was small, I was a child, so maybe
it wasn't too big, but it was big enough where
I was not able to just like step out of it.
And so I stood on my toes and I was
reaching as far as I could to try and reach
for one of these items on the shelf, and I
just could not reach. And so I turned around and
looked at the beings that took me there kind of
for direction, and they transferred telepathically this encouragement into my being.
And so I turned around and I tried again and again,
and I just couldn't reach it. And so they they
came to me, and they lifted me out of the
box and another thing in the cube on the other
side of it, the opposite side from where we came in.
That side was opened slightly where these two men that
I knew were not human, even though they kind of
seemed to look human, they were loading bax is either
in or out from a craft that was hovering outside
of the cube on that side. So there was a
craft hovering on the other side of the cube that
was a lot smaller than the cube, and they were
loading boxes in or out of that craft. And so
the after I couldn't reach anything on the shelf, the
two beings took me out of the box, and they
took me out of the cube, and they carried me
back through the sky and through the roof of the
Burton House and through the ceiling in my bedroom, and
they set me back into my physical body. And I
felt myself like snap back in and my two bodies rejoin,
and I just and as soon as I joined my
physical body, they were gone, and I was by myself again,
and I just laid there and I was like vibrating,
and I just laid there and I was just I
was excited and I was in shock, and I had
so many questions. So yeah, that was that was that encounter,
and that was my second really really amazing experience after
the three Golden Beings.
Speaker 2: The Golden beans, how big were they?
Speaker 1: They were probably about the size of maybe maybe a
nine year old or a ten year old, okay, yeah,
like a young child, not a toddler, but a little
you know, like a child.
Speaker 2: It's about between four to five feet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it maybe four feet okay, maybe maybe three
and a half or four feet tall if they were standing.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's usually about the size. People depict some
of these beans to be. So yeah, again kind of
aligns with all of that. Before we wrap this up,
I would like to talk a little bit about your book.
You said you've written all of the stuff, of all
the things you've experienced, we've only scratched the surface on
a little bit of it today. What made you decide
that you wanted to write this book? Was there something
that just kind of clicked and be like, you know what,
I want to start documenting this stuff? Like what was
your motivation to turn all this into a book?
Speaker 1: So it all started when I was actually really little
and these all these types of beings that I was encountering,
some of them, I'm not sure exactly which ones, but
I know that it was it was more of the
the good ones that they told me telepathically when I
was little that I was going to write a book
about the things that I've seen. And so just a
couple of years ago, so I've always known that I
was going to write a book about these things, and
all throughout my life, I've had encounter after encounter, and
it's been constant, basically, and so I I was always like,
you know, I can't wait, you know, to write a
book about this. But it was never the time. It
was never because writing a book it takes so much time,
and it takes at least a couple of years, and
you know, it takes a lot, and it was never
really the time too, and I also didn't feel like
it was the right time. But a couple of years ago,
I just I started getting these these signs and these synchronicities,
and then all of a sudden, it was just I
had this opportunity come up where I just I had
the ability to finally write it, and I was just told, like,
now is the time to write it. I actually had
a voice come into my head and say, right, so
others can be captivated by your mind. That was the
exact words that came from this source that let me
know that now is the time to write what I've seen.
And so I started writing, and it was it was
such such a journey bringing everything that I've ever seen
to the surface, and because there was a lot of
really really traumatic experiences that I had at the Briton House,
and some of them are actually still resurfacing and being
you know, coming forward to this day, and I know
that I have so many memories that I are kind
of buried in my subconscious that I don't have complete
access to yet. And I also have a lot of
blocks of time for my childhood that I completely do
not recall. I have a lot of times that I
when I was growing up that are totally blacked out.
And so it was a real journey bringing everything to
the surface as I wrote it from the moment that
first encounter happened up until today, and actually as I
wrote for because I started writing in June of twenty
twenty four up until this February of twenty twenty six,
so it was just over write about a year and
a half that I was writing and you know, doing
all the other stuff that it takes to finish it up.
But things kept happening, and so I kept having to
add more and more experiences to the end of the
book as I was writing the book. And yeah, so
on top of that, on top of knowing that this
is part of my purpose here, because I know that
I'm meant to speak up about these things and be
someone who kind of opens helps open the door for
other people to feel comfortable talking about this stuff. But
on top of that, I I'm so I'm so glad
and I'm so grateful to be a voice for people
who feel like they can't talk about this stuff, whether
it's an abduction experience, or whether they grew up in
a haunted house, or whether you know it was this
or that, or they had an out of body experience
and they think they're going crazy, or or maybe they
you know, they understand it, but they feel like they
can't talk to anyone about it because you know, they
might be labeled crazy, or they their reputation at work
could be ruined or or whatever. There's there's so many
people who who have these experiences, and a lot of
them feel they can't say anything about it. And I
think that has to change. And I know a lot
of people, as time goes on, are realizing that that
does have to change. And I'm so excited to be
one of the people that tell them my full story
and it's raw and I don't hold anything back, and
I go through every single detail that I can possibly remember,
and yeah, I'm just I'm so glad to be a
voice for people and so that you know, and maybe they'll,
you know, they'll see some of my some of their
experiences in mind when they read my story and all
the things that I've seen because I know that. Actually,
as I was writing, I listened to I think it
was twenty two or twenty three audiobooks on this subject
as I was writing, and there were times where I
would start crying because I heard someone else's experience that
reflected mine that I had never had that felt that
connection before. I never knew anyone else saw this specific
thing or experience this specific thing, so just to know that,
and I have already had readers reach out to me
and be like, I've never talked to anyone about this,
but oh my gosh, I couldn't believe when I heard this,
you know, this specific thing that you saw it was
I saw that too, and I it like warms my
heart to know that I can make other people feel
that way, that comfort, that that that sense of of
connection or kind of the community might not be the
right word, but kind of that feeling that they're a
part of something much bigger, and that there are other
people that have these experiences too.
Speaker 2: I was trying to think, like, without sounding cliche or whatever,
but why do you think they chose you?
Speaker 1: That is a question that I do still have because
I know that a lot of a lot of the
so I've really, I've really I've always been into this stuff,
kind of researching it, reading about it, talking to people
about it. But these past couple of years, I've been
really really diving deep. And most of the things that
I hear from other experiencers is they grew up without
this stuff and at the age of twenty five or
at the age of forty five, they have this wild
encounter that changes their life or you know, and that
kind of opens the door to a couple other things
that might happen. But it's not It's not very common
that you hear from another experience or that they were
that they were born being taken and taken out of
body and tested and taught things and encountered with all
these sorts of beings and I and that never asked
for it, Like I never, as you know, as a
childler as a child, or even growing up, I never
I never went out of my way and said, Okay,
I want to I want to know, I want to
be I want to have an encounter. I want to
have an It just happened. It came to me, and
so I do wonder, you know, why, why me? Was
there something about me after I was born that like
my aura that they saw was a good fit for
some purpose, some specific thing, or was it? Was it
something I agreed to before I came into this specific
physical life. But I do know that from it and
from being immersed in this this other worldly stuff since
the beginning of my life, that I that I my
purpose is to open other people's eyes it and to
to help shed light on these things.
Speaker 2: I wonder if and this is not necessarily anything anyone
can answer, but like I wonder if people like you,
people like these other experiences, and even what I do
here at this shows again giving people the opportunity to
share their experiences because I'm also an experiencer as well.
Are we doing this by design? Because they're supposed to
be helping people out hope and trying to get people
to awaken to these things. But if that is the case,
why are we all just not aware of it in
the first place? Why do we have to be become
aware of this? Like what happened to us to not
be knowing of these other entities, these other beings? Like
where does Again it goes back to what I'd said
earlier about how I think we're capable of a lot
of things, But we're shut off from it somehow, there's
like a disconnect. And if they're trying to reconnect that
with us, who shut it off? How do we get
disconnected in the first place? And why is it such
a specific person that gets targeted out to do this
rather than a mass of awakening.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I have the same questions, honestly, and it just
leads to so many more questions, these big questions like
why why are we disconnected from from our abilities today?
How long ago did that happen? Why did it happen?
Who did it? Did we do it to ourselves? Was
it an external source that did it to us? Was
it some malevolent being that did it to us? Was
it a whole Yeah? I mean you could you could
really go anywhere with like, you know, wondering how that happened.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's like the age old question of why
are we here? Like what's our purpose? Like we're not
going to get that answer. And I think the more
we dig into it and the more people become aware
of its great. But at the end of the day,
I don't think we're ever going to have the answer,
at least not in my lifetime to where we are,
who we are why we are who we are, Like,
what is the purpose? I think there's more to it.
It's just a matter of I don't know if we
get that in this physical form that.
Speaker 1: We're in right now, why we're here in our purpose
I feel is just to have that like I feel
that we were created to have that bond with the
Creator and the others that were created and to just
experience this incredible life. But it's supposed to be so
much more incredible than what we experience right now, because
we're really fully bound by the physical and material and
we're not supposed to be. That wasn't the original intention
for humanity to be like closed off from the other
realms and from the other dimensions and from their abilities
and from all these incredible things that we can do.
So this life as we experience it today, it's like
it makes it harder for people to be like, you know,
why am I here? Because you know, this physical world
can be pretty dull, it could be pretty like purposeless
in some instances. And but like then, but when you
tap into the true nature of this life we're actually
in and escape these like this, these restrictions that we have,
it changes that and it opens up like, oh my gosh,
there's there's so much more, and it means so much
more than just the physical or material world. It has
such a deeper meaning, and the opportunities are endless, and
the experiences are endless, and yeah, the it's it's hard
to put words on but yeah, I mean, we're here
for a greater purpose than what we're experiencing right now,
and we're I just something just tells me that that's
that's going to change soon. Those things, those doors are
going to start opening again and us discovering who we
really are and is going to start happening within my lifetime.
I'm thirty one, and so I just feel that within
the next fifty years, we're going to start once again
seeing these and experiencing and performing these things that people
now would say is sci fi or is fake or
is you know, is crazy. But I feel that we're
going to start really understanding life again and why we're
here and who we are.
Speaker 2: What we're doing right now used to be considered sci fi. Right,
So I don't doubt that we're going to have a
lot of advancements when it comes to technologies and the
things that we think about today will be in the
next fifty years will be different, but we can probably
wrap this up, and I want you to let everyone
know that's listening where they can find your book at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can find my book on Amazon and
it's called Born Awakened and other Worldly True Story by
Mantha Lifeger. And you can also find me on Instagram, Facebook, Reddit, TikTok,
and substack by looking up Born Awakened.
Speaker 2: You mentioned reddit. That's how we actually got connected originally.
How is it How has your reddit experienced so far?
Speaker 1: So I've known what reddit was for some years now,
but I never really got into using it until I
started writing. And so I'm a part of like a
lot of the experiencer groups, the UFO groups, the paranormal
groups and stuff like that, and it really it's been
really cool to be able to connect with people who
are just loving to talk about this stuff. There's a
lot of there's a lot of people that that really
open up about this stuff on there, and it's really
cool to see. And I actually, uh, I think it
was just a couple of months ago, maybe just a
month or two ago, that I created a subreddit called
ask Experiencers, And so I think there's one hundred and
fifty some people on it so far. But it's it's fun.
I I really, I really grew to like Reddit a lot,
and I've actually connected with you and with several other
people on there over this stuff. And it's yeah, it's
I love it. It's it's it's cool, and it's it's
unique from you know, Facebook or Instagram. It's it's nice
that there's it's just filled with these groups that people
can just spill their experiences into and share it with
each other.
Speaker 2: I need to find those groups because a lot of
the ones that I get into are a lot of
trolls involved.
Speaker 1: There are. Yeah, I've noticed that certain groups, especially certain
UFO groups, for some reason, I feel like there's a
lot of people, like at least half of the people
on some of those groups are just on there because
they just want to tell people that their experiences are
just not real, you know, like or they're just there
to be an un unchangeable skeptic or you know, or
to argue with people there. There. There is a lot
of that on a lot of groups on Reddit, and
especially certain ones. But I know that, sorry, the.
Speaker 2: Cryptid groups are just as bad. Like literally, if someone
posts a photo of something. They're getting harassed by so
many people.
Speaker 1: I know, I know I noticed that too when I
first joined the a couple of cryptid groups, and I'm
you know, so I I recognize the word cryptid as
I mean, I know there's a couple of different definitions. Sure,
but as you know, let's say bigfoot, dog man, mothman,
you know, stuff like that. And so I did come
across a couple other people posting it, and everybody's saying,
this is not what a cryptid really is and this
is not the scientific Like oh, okay, you.
Speaker 2: Will have that with so many people. And because you
just lum mothman and as a cryptid, someone would tell
you that mothman is not encrypted, which I don't know
how their definitions go, but mothmans to certain people are
as not considered acrypted.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, whatever, Yeah, I don't know how
it couldn't be.
Speaker 2: Encrypted because they think it's probably a spiritual thing, or
they also said it could be an interdimensional thing, or
it was in fact just a large bird. I was like, okay, whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of things that happened
and during that time that people were seeing the mothman,
and and before the bridge collapsed that that a bird
couldn't do. There was some really strange paranormal events that
happened that you know, it goes way beyond some you know,
material explanation or just an animal or But honestly, for me,
when I think about cryptids and these you know, strange
beings that people witness, I think that from For me,
my definition of a cryptid is it is interdimensional, it
is spiritual, it is whatever you want to say. They
do go back and forth between the physical and wherever
they came from, just like how people can see Bigfoot
disappear all of a sudden, you know, out of just
you know, all of a sudden, gone, He's disappeared. Or
same thing with with a mothman or with with uh,
what is it the it's not called wolf man. I
don't know why I can't think of it the dog Man.
I know there's a lot of stories up here in
Michigan regarding the dog Man. But yeah, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's a lot to them.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I could go on for a long time
about all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, Samantha, again, for anyone listening, your book is called
Born awakened. They can find it on Amazon, and you
are available on Instagram, Facebook, Reddit, all the social media's.
But it's been a pleasure talking to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much for having me on. I
appreciate you let me talk about all my experiences and
my book and everything.
Speaker 2: About how many pages is your book? For anyone that's curious.
Speaker 1: It is two hundred and forty one, I believe, so
good read for him. Yeah. Yeah, it's a good size.
It's not too big, but it's it's long enough where
it's got a lot of content in it.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we're gonna wrap this up, so thanks
for listening, Thanks to Samantha for being on here today,
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