Speaker 1: Let's all start to what you want to presents. Off
the bench with Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Off the bench with Jacob Hester and C Bob aber.
Speaker 3: I gotta come off the bench.
Speaker 1: Now here's Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert.
Speaker 4: Yo, what's going on?
Speaker 3: Everyone?
Speaker 2: Welcome man, brand new day of bout tbe and it.
Speaker 4: Is draft day. That's right, baby, It is finally here
the days in which the course of your favorite.
Speaker 2: In a team will be set the future. Will you
be celebrating, will you be denigrating? Will you be laughing?
Will you be crying? Will you be tweeting? You'll probably
be doing all of.
Speaker 4: It, and you should do it all with us at
Don Juan tonight are Coverg're gonna get in her way
at seven pm with myself and River Shoe. We will
have the whole crew there. Eventually Matt is working his
way over from Lafayette as well, So it's going to
be a great night in that regard coming out, come,
smoke some cigars, have some drinks, and have some most
importantly fun and then rage or whatever Mickey Loomis tells
you to do or whatever making Loomis decides to do.
Speaking of Mickey Loomis here just a media yesterday. We
will get to that a bit later in the hour.
I want to talk a lot of LSU Tennessee today
as well. I guess I think I screwed this up.
I have it in the document to start with LSU
tendency maybe or a draft actually since it is the day,
but where are my manners? I'm ta j Kester remains
boots on the ground up in Lambeau in Wisconsin. I
hope he catch up with Jake today and see what
it's been like thus far. We have our girl, a
Landra Vireal here in studio Landra with some girl.
Speaker 5: What up? I was gonna be at the draft party today.
Then I have to go to Lafayette with Matt. And
he was like, if you don't, if you don't want
to go to Don Juan after you have to come
back from Lafayette, then you don't have to.
Speaker 4: And I was like, I understand, you don't. You don't
want to go.
Speaker 5: I think it's more of like I'm gonna wow, do
this all day, do Eagle, and then I'm going to
go to Lafayette and do AFR and then I'm gonna
come back and know, I mean, like whatever, but I'm
not trying to sit in some smoke.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, you know good.
Speaker 4: It's how we separate the wheat from the chaff, the
real ones from the fair weather friends.
Speaker 6: Right, because I wasn't there every Saturday, you know.
Speaker 4: Which is sad because you know it's kind of like
a whiskey wine reunion and you're not gonna be there.
That's fine. I'm not upset about it all. It's a
good don't worry about it. I hope you have fun
watching Real Housewives Orange County. Oh you do love Real
houses never mind, So my stereotype actually played out to
be true.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: God, I watch about an episode of a half in
van Or last night.
Speaker 3: It is so good. It is so good.
Speaker 4: I gotta watch the wrest before you give a four
of you. They started with three episodes. Takeday, what's up man?
How we doing a Taylor Sharp here? Been doing a
great job feeling it for Palmer all week?
Speaker 3: Done?
Speaker 4: Cool?
Speaker 3: And tomorrow? Uh? And you're also not coming tonight. No.
Speaker 7: I have a rehearsal dinner for a wedding that I'm
in on front day, which is why I'm not doing
so what dude, I mean, I'm in the wedding, So
I kind of can't like not go pathetic.
Speaker 3: Who would have you in their wedding? That's actually a.
Speaker 6: Fair yeah, in a few weddings.
Speaker 3: True, that's actually.
Speaker 4: He's a correct age for it. But still that doesn't
mean that. That doesn't mean that, like as many people
decide to put you in their wedding, classic sign that
Tate is your proverbial glue guy. I will tell you
there when you need him. And I do believe that
if you were in a bind and you called Taylor,
I mean, how long did he.
Speaker 3: Drive you away?
Speaker 5: Like whenever I didn't have my car, he drove He
picked me up like every day for like a month
or two.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 6: I got a flat tire and he helped me change
my flat tire. He's like, yeah, he's glue guy.
Speaker 4: He may be dumb, stupid, full of hot air, incessantly
annoying cowboys fan, cowboys fan, could that taste in pretty
much every facet of life.
Speaker 3: But he's a good friend. Yeah, he's a good friend. Yeah.
Speaker 5: There's a take yet, like either yesterday or a couple
of days ago that we're like, how do you have
a take on this?
Speaker 4: Oh, it was I remember that. I remember that happening,
but I don't remember the the first straps jappy movie
titles of Jordan Peele.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like, they're dumb, loaded up.
Speaker 4: I'm ready to go.
Speaker 7: I woke up in a good mood this morning to you, Bob,
But it took me thirty minutes to get from Denim
Springs to o'ne old Lane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty minutes.
Speaker 7: Also, if you're one of those people out there, you
see the exit fifty yards away and you're like, I'm
better than everyone else.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna drive on the shoulder and pass you.
Speaker 7: I hope you step on a lego so hard that
it is permanently implanted in the bottom of your foe.
Speaker 4: Hold on now, hold on now, who if you're not remerging,
why do you.
Speaker 3: Have a problem with that? No, you're not supposed to
do it.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, okay, a lot of things you're
not supposed to do that I enjoy doing. I'm gonna
I'm gonna have to disagree with you. It's fine now.
I feel you on maybe getting in an exit lane
to jump as much traffic as you can and then
re emerging.
Speaker 6: I hate that.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that I'm above it or I've never
done it myself. Like, if I'm really pressed, I'll do it,
and I'll feel bad about myself. I'm not, I won't,
and I'll get mad at those who do. But no, bro,
if the exit's up there and you're telling me I
can hop on the shoulder and get to the exit
and not just sit there and wait, why not why
there's nobody on.
Speaker 3: The shoulder because you're not supposed to be on the shoulder.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, like, did you get off of that exit?
Speaker 3: Not one hundred yards before the exit?
Speaker 4: Did you need to get off of that exit?
Speaker 3: Is what I'm asking.
Speaker 4: Then why didn't you do it?
Speaker 3: I could have gotten your way quicker. You're gonna be
complaining so much.
Speaker 4: Oh, that's true, it's true. This is like, so it's
been drilled into him. Yeah, the respect of our traffic
ever lost?
Speaker 3: There's something wrong with that. About a month ago, more people.
Speaker 7: Right, and somebody was doing that, a cop pulled out
right behind him and pulled them over.
Speaker 4: Made my well again, though, that is that is the
assumed risk, and so you're mad at them. But like,
they could get pulled over. So you know that you
you know, you know the game when you step into it,
like you know what you're getting into and you decide to.
Speaker 7: Get its already in a bad mood this morning. Yeah,
and that just angered me even Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, for sure, I thought it was going to be
cutting back in. If you're leaving the stream, go ahead
and get on out of there.
Speaker 5: In my opinion, no, I hate when people cut back in,
like when they yeah, I hate that, uh.
Speaker 4: And so's everything. But you know what I mean, Hey,
you know it's it gets ruthless out there.
Speaker 3: On the streets.
Speaker 4: It really does when everybody.
Speaker 6: Got to look out for it on the defense all
the time, when.
Speaker 3: You're driving to work every morning.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I didn't mean for this to start on the traffic segment,
but here we are, guys on a Thursday morning.
Speaker 3: Okay, morning traft, we're leading trash.
Speaker 4: The first few minutes of the show are always sort
of a you know when you were out, you need
to stretch first, Yeah, get you you need to warm up.
You need to get some uh not just like an
easy streat. You know, you need to get some some
cow stitt. You know, you need to get running a
little bit of the book that's overdoing anyway.
Speaker 3: Continue when you.
Speaker 7: Get off at a Kadian at College Drive, it says
this laying exit only on the ground, it says this
laying exit only ten feet up. It says this laying
exit only. You always have that one a hole the
right before. It's like, crap, I gotta get over. It's
like swerving over. I'm like, yeah, half a mile you
had four warnings to do this.
Speaker 3: Well, you think that I am letting you over. No,
that's not happening.
Speaker 4: So that is the thing though, h you're painting it
like they did it out of ignorance. No, they purposely
stayed in that lane to skip as much of the
backup as possible.
Speaker 7: You have a lot more confidence in people's intelligence level
than I do.
Speaker 3: Also, just didn't didn't.
Speaker 4: Look fair play is fair play, And you're right if
you hate people cutting back in, well you just got
to tailgate the is it in front of you, and
you know, box him out, like you're out there getting
a rebound. NBA playoffs going on right now. You got
to box him out.
Speaker 3: Shut out. Why they rockets one last night?
Speaker 6: Yeah you had twelve points?
Speaker 4: Oh okay, hell yeah, I did see that the rockets
one forgot completely about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how hurd is Jimmy Butler? Do we know yet?
I could spell doom for the Warriors.
Speaker 4: Anyway about the Warriors. Yeah, weird morning for.
Speaker 3: Me as well.
Speaker 4: Something my alarm missed workout, which is just the worst
way to throw out an entire day. Yeah, then randomly
running out of my car barefoot.
Speaker 6: It's on you.
Speaker 4: I think stepped on a sharp rock.
Speaker 6: What was that about the rocks outside?
Speaker 4: Not by my house. I have no rocks by my house.
It's just grass like. I don't know where the rock. Legitimately,
I don't know where the rock could have come from.
My neighbors don't have a rock bed in any sort
of garden or anything. It was just one random rock
purpose in my driveway, perfectly placed to stab my heel
and cause me uh to curse and scream and get angry.
But whatever, whatever. Again, it was basically the equivalent of
Mickey Loomis lying in wait for me on my raining driver.
Also this rain, guys, Oh man, we're in Seattle.
Speaker 6: I wanted to go back to sleep so bad.
Speaker 4: Okay, look it's time to flip the script. Okay, like
we said, the INTERFL draft is all about hope. We
said yesterday we can choose to be optimistic, and here
we have, thanks to Taylor started on a terrible pessimistic
backfoot note. So here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna reset.
We're gonna fake it till we make it. We're having
a great morning, guys. We're gonna have a great day,
and we're gonna have a great night except for everybody
who has to go to Thisroso dinner and de you
were tailor yelling at him about the draft and his
most titles. But we are going to have a great day.
When we get back, we will empty the clip on
the draft talk Maggie Loomis. We got LSU Tennessee coming up.
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Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 4: So Mickey Loomis met with the media yesterday and everybody
wanted to ask him about Derek Carr. Unfortunately, he did
not want to talk about Derek Carr. He did say
quote he he does have an issue with his shoulder.
We're hoping to get some resolution and clarity on that
in the near future, and when we do, I'll report
back to you. I think he was asked about half
a dozen questions of a car. He refused to answer,
saying that he would only answer questions about the draft.
Here was probably the question that frustrated me most. He
was asked if restructures because, of course, the Saints this
offseason tied themselves to their car for seemingly two more years,
for at least one more year for.
Speaker 3: Seemingly no reason.
Speaker 4: When he won it out and he was asked, well, okay,
do restructures require players to pass the physical right, like,
of course you're going to commit to the long term.
You should, you know what's going on the bottom? What
did he say? Quote? Restructures can come in all sorts
of forms.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 4: That was my reaction as well, such a vague bs
The answer basically say, no, we did not give Derek
Carr physical We assumed health, and well it looks like
we were wrong. Restructures can come in all sorts of forms, yes,
including the crappy ones, which well, I would describe this
one as he would go on to describe his approach
to the draft this year, saying quote, I don't think
the draft approach is different for us than it would
be in any year. We're hoping for as many good players,
great players as we can find, and we're fortunate enough
this year to have multiple picks in the first four rounds.
And we're excited because I think there's some depth in
this draft. Okay, so that last part. We're fortunate enough
to have this year multiple picks the first four rounds.
We're excited to say there's depth of drafts. Please God,
let that mean that the Saints are going to take
all of their picks. I know the plan on paper
appears to be to trade back up to get a quarterback.
In fact, there are some rumors that the Saints are
looking to trade back to require some extra draft capital
to then package and move back up into the late
first round, maybe earlier in the second, to get a quarterback.
The problem is, I don't know why anybody would trade
up with you, like where is your You don't really Again,
we always love the city of trade back, trade back,
but it takes two to tango and there's no great
incentive point, right, there's no catalyst to want to spur
another trade or to spur a trade from another team
unless there's a guy on the board that maybe isn't
supposed to be there at that time, that another team's
just absolutely in love with. But like famously, when the
Chiefs traded up ahead to grab Patrick Mahomes a few
years ago, that's because they knew these Saints were going
to take him next if he was still there. Quarterback
has a way of incentivizing that action. It's more rare
for these other positions to do so. So sure, trading
back sounds great, I just don't know how they would
in terms of trading back up to get one of
these quarterbacks late first early. Second, I don't like it
for a couple of reasons. First off, your roster is
so threadbare. I really want to spend all these picks
and try to get as many players as possible. As
we enter the rebuild, you have to start to build
out the bones. You know, you need the meat and
potatoes of the roster here, and you have a chance
to cook up it's pretty tasty, meant potatoes. If you
draft on you spend all of these picks. Another reason
why I don't necessarily like it is because it's going
to be a hyper competitive market. Basically every team is
thinking the exact same thing, will go player first and
then quarterback second. I mean there are a lot of
teams looking to choose those guys who will be around
at the end of the first early second, meaning the
price if you are a team that wants to trade
back there, the price goes up for any potential buyers.
So everybody wants to do now. Sure, as I said yesterday,
like the ideal to me would be drafting someone at nine.
And there's a million different directions you can go. And
what do we say yesterday and a sharp picksmock ten
it was Mason Graham, Well, you know Schrager. I think
had him with Michale Williams today, which that one would
that one would cause this consternation. I don't think they
do amongst the amongst the Saint sand Baser. Sure, but
like there's a million different ways they could go there
at nine. But the point is you get a starter
there and then later on. To me, the dream be
ended up with like a Jalen Milroe. It's probably a
bit too exciting though, to make it all the way
to forty when you look at out the other teams,
or but is Jalen Milwroll worth trading up for? And
that's where I just don't see it. So I talked
about the fact that they need to fill out the roster.
I talked about the fact that it's a hyper competitive market.
How about the fact that all of these quarterbacks are
in that late first early second round period because people
just aren't sure if they'll be any good. Last year
you had six quarterbacks go in the top twelve. There
was a lot of belief in that class. Unless we're
all being fooled, there doesn't appear to be in this class.
And yet some guys have gotten hot. Certainly Jackson Dart
seems to be one of the names that is climbing.
Did you see what Joe Shane's son posted a Jackson
Dart highlight reel on his Instagram and then set his
account to private immediately afterwards, because I guess, of course
that was like taking way out of context and people
started going crazy over it, I guess. But the point is, like,
these quarterbacks are viewed as more risky than the traditional quarterback,
and so is it worth it then to trade up
and grab one of them when you might just be
grabbing another rattler and you say, oh, Spencer Ratler was
fifth round. Yeah, I mean, yes, you're not wrong. So
maybe I'm being a bit disingenuous and you might be
grabbing another Rattler. But that is kind of how people
seem to feel about this class.
Speaker 3: So just unsure.
Speaker 4: So it's so coin for me, so risky. Is it
worth giving up some of these picks that you so
desperately need on what Mickey Loomis himself described as a
draft with a lot of with a with a lot
of death.
Speaker 3: Uh, what do you think, Tatee?
Speaker 4: What do you how do you think the Saints handle
this uh strategy of trying to select to play a
first quarterback second?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: I mean that's that's that's certainly the way I think
they're gonna go.
Speaker 7: I mean everyone has said it's no longer shod Dore
at nine, which we know, and then they've said O
line D line is is kind.
Speaker 3: Of where they go. Now do they like Michael Williams
on the edge?
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 7: That's why I went Mason Graham yesterday. I don't know
tackle wise, what's going to be there for you will
Campbell will be gone. A lot of people think the
New York Jets, myself included, are going to take Memboo
out of Missouri. Do you really want to go third
offensive tackle off the board at nine oer?
Speaker 3: Overall? I think you go defensive.
Speaker 7: Line as much because, like we talk about it all
the time, right, the good news is Saints can be
very hard for them to mess of this up because
you need everything. The bad news is you need everything.
I'd pretty much be happy with whatever. Like I would
love a corner because I think you need one. You
can't take Will Johnson. It's at nine though he the
injury history concerns me a little bit. He barely played
this last year. He's coming off that. Do you like
you die Barren enough? I don't think you take him
at nine. Everyone loves tet Road McMillan. I think this
is a pretty deep receiver class. I mean, there's a
lot of different ways they go, but I do think
they go D line.
Speaker 4: Yeah again, I did, that would make sense. But you
know the thing is, though something always ends up going awry. Uh,
Like you never would have thought you were gonna get
Marshawn Lattimore at thirteen.
Speaker 3: Those years ago.
Speaker 4: It's because you had an early running offensive players, So
like what if what if Jent does an end up going?
Do you go gent? Then in a weird way, the
Saints are so desperate, like Taylor Ouy, They're so desperate
for everything that almost anything can be celebrated. I just
need to hear that Derek Carr is gone and no
longer playing for the New Orleans Saints and that they
are going to swallow the bitter pill start to finally
really reset the cap. And it'll take a couple of years.
But again, that's why you need to draft all of
these players because again it's not just the roster deficiencies,
but the cab deficiencies mean that these rookie contracts have
added value anything else on the draft tailor. I know
you're very excited. Jerry Jones is quote working on substantive trade,
substantiative substantial, substantial trades for the cat substantive thank you
trades for the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: You mean a trade with a substance.
Speaker 7: Yes, I thought a trade had substance. That's that's what
it involves. Jerry says things all the time where he's like,
I'm going to use a big word that's not used
very often and try to sell him smart, Like he
did this in the off season when he said, we're
going to be selectively aggressive. If you're aggressive, then you're
all in. Well you're not all in if you're being selective.
But Jerry's like combined the two guys genius, selective and aggressive.
Throw it out there, let the media eat it up,
and we're actually not going to do anything. We're going
to sign Javonte Williams, who nobody else in the league
wanted to be our starting running back.
Speaker 3: That was Jerry Jones being selectively aggressive.
Speaker 7: In the off season. He's an idiot. I don't have
any use for what he has to say.
Speaker 4: Well, the last trade that was made by Jerry Jones
and Draft Day was to trade back to twelve just
a few years ago. And who did he get, Micah
Parsons Tate. Uh oh, So why don't you show a
little faith in old Jera, the guy.
Speaker 7: He still hasn't renewed his contract.
Speaker 4: That guy, all right, I want to get into it.
Look he's just waiting for the price to go up. Yeah,
I want to get into LSU Tennessee next. So Taylor,
this is your final chance to give me your last
draft thoughts on what you think we're gonna see tonight.
Speaker 7: I know yesterday I mentioned that I thought the Jaguars
are going to be a wild card at five, and
I do depending on who they pick.
Speaker 3: A lot of people are saying.
Speaker 7: You know, the Giants kind of want to trade out
of that number three spot. I mean, that's that's something
to keep an eye onwa because if they trade out
at three, you could say, okay, well somebody else is
traded up to get Abdual Carter. Yeah, unless they don't,
unless they fall in love with a quarterback, Unless they
fall in love with a gent like that, there's no
that changes everything.
Speaker 4: I guess the reason why I say there's no way
that they would trade up to take a quarterback is
because nobody is thought to going to be to take
a quarterback.
Speaker 3: So like, why, no, I get it.
Speaker 4: Why would you commit more resources to to a questionable
quarterback than nobody else?
Speaker 3: Seems to really?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 7: Like the Raiders are a team to watch because there's
a lot of reports that the Jacksonville Jaguars love Ashton
genty pick before the Las Vegas Raiders. If somebody wanted
to trade up from six to three, Like six to
three is doable.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's what we're saying.
Speaker 7: So yeah, if they wanted to hop in front to
get like the Giants are a team to watch, that's
that's pick three. Like I think we all agree that.
Speaker 4: But then if you're six, then you would first explore
with the Patriots right to go to four, you would think,
so yeah, and then and then the Patriots would probably
be open to listen to that because they would get resources.
Speaker 3: They could still get Will Campbell. It's sick.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And because I don't I don't think. I don't
think Jacksonville is gonna take Will Campbell. They may, yeah,
at five, but I mean, yeah, that would be a
team to watch too. But apparently like the Giants are
like actively looking new trade back.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look, that makes all the sense in
the world. They need a lot of help. And again,
Abdul Carter at three represents enough value because again we said,
what's the catalyst to make one of these things happen?
Abdul Carter at three, the best player in the draft,
making it to the third pick would seemingly on paper,
potentially represent enough valo you for a team to want
to commit to trying to get up there a lotger
you're kind of like me generally don't care about the
draft that much, or I don't want to put words
in your mouth. I don't know, uh ju any if
do the clip draft day thoughts.
Speaker 5: It's not that I don't care about the draft, I
just don't follow it as closely as like Taylor, Jake
do or you even because like I don't, I don't
really care about like the other teams, So I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 5: But my take on the Saints is what I've been
saying since a couple of weeks ago, is that when
the Chador thing came up, were like, you're just so
bad that it doesn't matter who you draft, Like whatever's
gonna help. Whether it's not gonna be Shador obviously, but
whether it be him, Jackson Dart, Mason Graham. You need everything,
So whoever it is, I'm not gonna be too upset.
Speaker 4: Mitchell Naps is praying for that twenty seventeen magic Draft.
Speaker 3: I agree. I agree.
Speaker 4: Man. Again, you've had two in the Mackey Looms area
at O six, you had seventeen, and they both led
to real championship window runs. Uh, you're you're still gonna
be hamstrung a bit by uh some of your cap
management and whatnot, but you have enough early picks here
where you can really put together a pretty solid foundation
for the next uh for the next couple of years
some uh, we'll see.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 4: The other crazy part is, you know, we we we commit.
And this is why I find myself sometimes disillusioned or
or unmotivated when it comes to studying things like mock drafts.
Is all it takes is one really wild card move,
and then the knock on effect is that everything changes.
Like Nookie mentioned Pannis going at eight last year, I mean,
it happens every single year. Something wild happens at the
top ten, and then everything else is thrown off. And
it's kind of insane to put yourself in the war
rooms of these teams because like, yeah, I mean, I'm
sure they have better intel than we do, but who
knows what they actually expect to happen. And all of
a sudden, you're scrambling because the entire setting has is
vastly and uh wickedly different than what you thought it
was going to be. So that's what I want more
Behind the scenes coverage of.
Speaker 6: Like, like the Hard Knocks was so good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like stuff like that, I can watch The Hard
Knocks that they followed the Giant's front office leading up
to the draft.
Speaker 6: It was so good and.
Speaker 5: But honestly, it also kind of exposed Joe Shane for
how bad at decision making he is.
Speaker 7: Guys, everyone would overlease Saquon Barkley, Okay, relaxed.
Speaker 5: Jack and you're like no, it was the who's the
GM before him? Yeah yeah, and I'm like, no, trust me.
He doubled down on Daniel Jone and then Saquon was
the one that was like I'm uh, like he wanted
to re sign with the Giants, and then Joe Shane
was like, we'll go see what's out there and then
we'll see what's up.
Speaker 7: I like it was like the behind the scenes where
he's like, nobody's gonna offer Saquon that money watch, He's
gonna come crawl.
Speaker 5: It's like, if we don't get Saquon back, I'm gonna
lose sleep over it. So I bet now they won
a Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: About Shane clip is the underling being like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Guys, like you're like, who's gonna pay him, and he's
like somebody who who's close. Yeah's good, like somebody who
needs a big impact of that position.
Speaker 5: And the craziest thing to me about all that is that,
like literally everybody was telling Joe Shane a resign, b
draft a quarterback, and.
Speaker 6: He did none of those things.
Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody was telling him that, Yeah, they had Jaden
Daniels that they really wanted, like Brian Dable really wanted
Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 4: You see what, uh even they're good for Jaden end
up watching all right, So there it is NFL Draft tonight.
Come with the Don Walle Draft part. Let's go out
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the best morning sports show around sort of.
It's off the bench with Hester and TVAP.
Speaker 4: All right, So LSU Tennessee is set to get underway
in the box this weekend, guys, and uh, it's gonna
be a it's it's gonna be a good one. On paper,
this is one of the more fascinating series LSU has
had thus far. You know, generally the theme has been
that on paper, LSU has appeared to be the better team,
and generally they played like that this season. Uh, this
is the first time we're on paper. They probably look
like the lesser team. Now they're damn near even on
all team stats, but there are some individual stats that
started paying a pretty uh intimidating picture for the balls.
Let's just run through some of this. You look at
batting average right now, LSU second in the se at
three sixteen, Tennessee third at three oh eight. You could
slugging percentage Tennessee first, LSU fifth, on base percentage lshu's second,
Tennessee third. You look at home run excuse me, you
look at earned run at.
Speaker 3: My paper's correct? Here?
Speaker 4: Let me see something.
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, here it is. You look at home runs.
Speaker 4: Tennessee currently second in the conference, hitting ninety seven of them,
LSU ninth at sixty three, So Tennessee hitting significant hormones.
What about the other side of the ball. Tennessee second
in the SEC with a three to one seventh staff
e ra LSU fifth three eight two, Tennessee third with
a two point fifteen opponent batting average LSU fourth to nineteen.
You look at strikeouts LSU second for sixty seven, Tennessee
third for sixty four, and and really, I mean it
goes on and on and on in that same vein
even down to both of them maybe struggling a bit defensively.
LSU ninth the nine seven eight field percentage, Tennessee fourteenth
at nine to seven. Oh So those are the I
think those are kind of the high level team sets,
as you can see, very evenly matched. But it's when
you start to dive into the individuals that maybe it
becomes a bit more intimidating. And I think it starts
with Tennessee. I mean, we'll talk about Liam Doyle, but
it is the Tennessee bats that I think appear to
be the the the the the most intimidating part of
this team. How about this. Tennessee has four different players
hitting over three hundred with double digit home runs, and
that's not including the two highest average hitters on the
team who have eight home runs apiece. So right now
and for context, LSU has one such player, and that
would be Bear Jones hit every three hundred over ten
home runs. Right now, Tennessee has Dalton Bargo hitting three
eighteen with eleven home runs. They have Dean Curley hitting
three ten with eleven home runs, Avye Chapman hitting three
oh four with eleven home runs, and then there's Andrew
Fisher currently second in the SEC sixteen home runs, he
leads the SEC with forty three walks, He's got a
five ZHO three on base percentage. We watch out for
Andrew Fisher. And this is some pretty good names, pretty
good players. And that doesn't even include Tennessee's best hitter,
Hunter Insley hitting three forty two eight home runs, a
team leading forty seven ribbies, Levi Clark three thirty eight
eight home runs. And this comes at a time when
maybe LSU's feeling a bit in cure about its staff.
In some ways, that's a lineup. That's a lineup that
you're going to have to work through. There a lineup
that is not unlike LSU's in terms of not striking out,
taking walks, getting on base again, hitting for very good average.
It's just that Tennessee has more power. And granted some
of that is probably the park that they play in.
Of course, somebody talking about Lindsay Nelson and the size
of it, but it is something to take into account. Nonetheless,
before we get into Liam Doyle against Kate Anderson, how
do y'all feel about this LSU staff going against a
lineup featuring that many premier hitters.
Speaker 3: I personally think the staff will be okay.
Speaker 7: I mean, look, Kate Anderson's an elite starter, Anthony Imson
has been incredible, and your bullpen in the last two
sec weekends has been really good.
Speaker 3: It's been one of your strings. My bigger concern.
Speaker 7: Is the LSU bats against the Tennessee pitching staff, because
your bats haven't been good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, okay, I see why I was getting confused.
I didn't know these were printed front and back.
Speaker 6: That makes uh I knew I didn't know either.
Speaker 3: Here, that makes sense.
Speaker 5: I didn't realize that either. I don't know why I
did that. Yes, I don't think I've ever printed front
and back.
Speaker 7: She did it on purpose with their off Now.
Speaker 4: Tennessee's walked two hundred and fifty five times in the year.
Lsh's walked to thirty four.
Speaker 3: That's second and fifth.
Speaker 4: Uh l Shoes only struck out two hundred ninety five times,
Tennis the only two ninety. I mean again, it's it's
just it's just all over the place. So you're not
worried about this staff, which is which generally like Kate
and not worried.
Speaker 3: I'm just more concerned about our hitting right now.
Speaker 4: Here's the deal on.
Speaker 3: Kate Anderson.
Speaker 6: He's a dog.
Speaker 4: Uh, he is a dog, but the numbers are a
bit weird.
Speaker 3: He's gotta been good and bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like Bmo says, Kate is good and not lead
to inconsistent. He's going to have to raise his level
of play like he did the Kison Witherspoon game. Because
if you look right now, Kate Anderson's actually not even
top sixteen in the SEC. In the RA like he
doesn't break into the leaderboard because of the last couple
of weeks. You know who's first, not Liam Doyle.
Speaker 6: Sam Dun Sam Dunch.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, he has like a one something right, Uh no, no, no,
maybe that's in conference, OK, but overall in the season
it's a two four to three h But like like
Liam Doyle's second in the SE with a two four eight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I'm not gonna lie. Look coach Chase the Man. Obviously,
I love the Selgia baseball team. That's pretty astounding. Yeah,
having a Friday night starter that is leading the SEC
this late in the season in e er leave and
when he left you thought he wasn't any good. That's
like Zach Bond levels of man. We misevaluated this guy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean he was struggling to get any innings,
not weekend starting rotation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was struggling to get on the field to pitch.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. That's a bad it's to bad.
Speaker 5: Look, I guess my question is is, like, what do
you mean by Kate Anderson's inconsistent?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, like, look you look at Liam Doyle.
He's second in the SEC with a two four eighty R,
a second in the SEC with a one fifty four
PoTA batting average. He leads the SEC with fifty eight
in each bitch. He leads the SEC with one hundred
and four k's credit to kid. Kate's second on that
list with ninety one. Liam's only walk seventeen. He leads
the SEC. Liam does with seven wins. What is Caid's
era right now? Again, he wasn't on the leaderboard, Okay, exactly,
there's the inconsistency. Like now again the Oklahoma performance, like
we said that wasn't that was raising his level of
place too and eight play to an ace. I mean,
Kyson Witherspoon still has a two four eight e ER
nearly half that of Kate, but that night. Like we said,
it was a bit of a top gun sort of feel.
He outdueled him and put together one of the most
legendary performances that we've ever seen. And he's going to
have to do so again. If you want to beat
Liam Doyle, he's going to have to be uh better
than a three nine to two era.
Speaker 7: To your point, I think I think what you're saying
is like outings, outings, he's been a lead and other
not so much. Like we talk about the Oklahoma game
next weekend against Auburn, four and a third gave up
five runs or six runs, five of them earned. Yeah,
the after the complete game shutout the following weekend. He
was okay last weekend against the Alabama.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, he was good.
Speaker 7: He was kind of in the middle, right, Like he
wasn't great against Auburn. He was a lead against Oklahoma,
he was kind of somewhere in between against Alabama.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And but but again I like it because we have
the Kyson Witherspoon data point. I'm hopeful that Cake can
can just juice it up once again in the box
tomorrow night. But but it's definitely some noise, like.
Speaker 6: Like, hey, I get what y'all are saying. I totally
understand what you're saying.
Speaker 5: But he's six and one, yeah, so I kind of like,
I understand what you're saying. But he's been consistently getting
you wins. I feel like that's pretty consistent, and like
he has ninety one strikeout yeah, and thirteen walks on
this season and Liam Doyle, I mean, those are pretty
similar numbers to what he has.
Speaker 4: So, I mean except for inurned runs, you know, the
end all be.
Speaker 6: All Yeah, and I get what you mean, Liam get
giving it up?
Speaker 3: Okay, I guess Alabama he was.
Speaker 7: He was really good, except the iurn runs because he
gave up multiple home runs like that. It's just kind
of unfortunately, Like he gave up five runs and five
and two thirds.
Speaker 3: You're like, okay, whatn't great?
Speaker 7: He did ten strikeouts last week against Alabama, Like it
was kind of a kind of a give and take
a little bit.
Speaker 3: Uh, here's to look.
Speaker 4: The bottom line is, though, he's going to have to
be elite Kate Anderson, yea, unless the Bats surprise you
and managed to get through Liam Doyle, which really nobody
has done it. Two weeks ago, I would have felt
much more confident about that than I do.
Speaker 8: Now.
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Speaker 1: Cop at it where sports talk meets pure chaos.
Speaker 3: Off the bench with Hester and T Bob.
Speaker 4: It looks like Chat is breaking down some numbers between
home runs and the road versus home runs in.
Speaker 3: Lindsey Nelson.
Speaker 5: That's what I was saying in the break that yeah,
Lindsay Nelson's small, but they hit bombs in other parks too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're just good at sixty nine home runs in
sixty nine games at home.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, what is this? Well, that's not right.
Speaker 4: This is saying in minshems. I'm saying two point four
home runs a game at home and two point three
home runs a game away. So now we could we
could dive into conference and out of conference, but I'm
sure conference wise they're still going to lead in home
runs or second the second time they can hit. You
can try to look, you can try to make all
the excuses you want, but Tennessee can hit at elite
clip and they have hit an elee clip for years.
Speaker 5: Now, that's what I'm saying like I can get I don't. Obviously,
I'm die hard LSU baseball fan. I was telling somebody yesterday, like,
there's two things I'm die hard about LSU Baseball and
San Antonio Spurs, right, Like, I'll never betray either of those.
And but and I don't like Tennessee. But you got
to give credit where credit's due. Yeah, they've had great
teams the past few seasons since Tony Botello came in,
and it just I mean, we can all agree that
they're good at hitting, and we don't have to downplay it.
Speaker 6: It just is what it is.
Speaker 4: Well, it's all been leading up to this, Jay Johnson
and Tony v the two kind of new kids on
the block, barging their way into the SEC elite sphere,
the past two national champions now going toe to toe
and Alec Box.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with Taylor, though, I'm more worried about our
cold bats than the bullpen.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Let's say kids dominate, you lose three to two.
Speaker 4: Okay, well yeah, I mean three to two against Doyle though.
Is is that like a bad night for the bats?
I don't know, that's kind of runs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, two.
Speaker 4: Runs is but that is what Liam Doyle does, though,
I'd be more upset with two on Saturday or two
on Sunday. Three to two. That's just a realistic possibility.
When you go up against a guy like Doyle, it's
just like just chase, you know, just do every quality
of bats, stack him, try to get the pitch count up.
Just try to chase him and then do your damage
after that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's the thing that we've been having an
issue with, like not a lot of patients at the plate,
not great picking out what you're gonna swing out and
stuff like that. We were talking about Jerry Jones, I mean,
he just he's been chasing that ball that they've been
throwing at him, that high fastball and back to what
where he was two years ago.
Speaker 6: He got better at it last year, but we're back there.
Speaker 3: Well.
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the bat store them up. We got coach Beth Terrena
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