WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.279 --> 00:00:05.360 Welcome to break Free and Trust a redesign for Living. 2 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:10.519 Join me Chris and me Jacqueline for real conversations about life, death, 3 00:00:10.679 --> 00:00:11.839 and everything in between. 4 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:14.679 Learn to connect with your intrinsic power to grow and heal, 5 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:16.879 how to laugh at your own humanness and not take 6 00:00:16.960 --> 00:00:17.839 life too seriously. 7 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:21.920 Through healthy conversations between the feminine and masculine, you learn 8 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:24.679 how to harness the power of relationship and the mirror, 9 00:00:24.760 --> 00:00:27.760 to befriend your shadow, and to trust that any obstacle 10 00:00:27.839 --> 00:00:30.359 that gets in your way is there to help you grow. 11 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:33.079 Together. Working at a practical levels, you learn to trust 12 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:36.000 that everything that is happening is for you, your growth and 13 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:36.880 ultimate freedom. 14 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:40.479 Our circumstances don't matter, it's only how we relate to 15 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:41.119 them that does. 16 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:43.280 Get ready to be your friend the wisdom of your 17 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:44.560 body and the power. 18 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:44.759 Of your mind. 19 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:47.520 Break Free and Trust starts. 20 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:52.439 Now, and welcome to break Free and Trust the Redesign 21 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:52.799 for Living. 22 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:54.359 I'm Chris and I'm Jacqlin. 23 00:00:54.520 --> 00:00:56.880 I'm going to start off today's show with that quote 24 00:00:56.920 --> 00:00:59.280 from Michael Singer, who is the author of The Untethered Soul. 25 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:03.719 In this experiment, there is nothing more important to true 26 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:07.120 growth than realizing that you are not the voice of 27 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:11.000 the mind, you are the one who hears it. So 28 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:14.599 Jacquelin and I have, and I have and continue to 29 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:18.959 have powerful experience with intuition. It has brought up the question, 30 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:22.280 how do you differentiate between the voice of your own 31 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:25.840 intuition from the thousands of other voices that are competing 32 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:29.599 for your attention. Singer suggests, you're not the voice of 33 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:32.799 your mind, but you're the one who hears it. Intuition, 34 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:36.159 we think, is learning to recognize that one true voice 35 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:41.159 beneath the noise of fear, conditioning, programming, and conventional wisdom. 36 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:42.599 But there's much more to this. 37 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:44.799 Once you can hear the voice clearly, you are no 38 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:47.840 longer being asked only to follow it. You're being asked 39 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:50.599 to become it or to be it. So what is 40 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:53.599 intuition really and how is it different from a feeling 41 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:57.640 or a fear or a wish? Can intuition be trained 42 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:00.920 or is it something we simply uncover? And what does 43 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:03.239 it mean to stop being the sheep and become a shepherd? 44 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:06.159 All this and more in the next hour, and of 45 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:08.840 course for live years. This show is open to questions 46 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:11.039 in the second half, so put them in the chat 47 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:14.000 or calling it one eight hundred nine three zero two 48 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:18.199 eight one nine. I'm going to kick it off with 49 00:02:18.199 --> 00:02:21.560 a question for you, so Jack, when you hear singers 50 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:24.360 say you are not the voice of the mind, but 51 00:02:24.439 --> 00:02:27.199 the one who hears it, what does that stir in you? 52 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:33.560 I can tell you that as soon as you ask 53 00:02:33.639 --> 00:02:37.360 the question, something in my body just sort of settled, 54 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:43.840 like from a purely feeling standpoint, sensation standpoint, my energy 55 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:46.840 kind of dropped from up here in my chest to 56 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:54.759 lower in my belly, and I had profound sense of calm, actually, 57 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:56.199 which kind of surprises me. 58 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:03.039 What's behind that question before the question? I suppose. 59 00:03:09.039 --> 00:03:11.360 It's an interesting question to which I don't know that 60 00:03:11.439 --> 00:03:22.879 I have any answer. Well, I think the voice of intuition, 61 00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:27.639 as I have come to understand it for myself, sits 62 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:32.199 in a place of neutrality. It sits in a place 63 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:39.039 that's untouched by our life experience and the dramas and 64 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:44.719 traumas and stories and beliefs and everything that drive most 65 00:03:44.759 --> 00:03:45.439 of our. 66 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:47.319 Behavior. 67 00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:53.960 And it actually comes from a place that's different than that. 68 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:57.080 And what's coming up now as I'm answering your question 69 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:00.840 is a visual that I've seen many times. But I 70 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:04.960 just saw recently in some coursework that I'm doing of 71 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:10.520 the iceberg, so I'm gonna i'll speak from that place. 72 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:16.959 The piece of icebergs that we see are often likened 73 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:23.480 to our consciousness, and what I mean by that is 74 00:04:23.839 --> 00:04:29.519 or our conscious minds. Five percent of the iceberg actually 75 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:33.680 pokes up out of the water. Ninety five percent of 76 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:38.199 the iceberg is hidden from view, which really speaks to 77 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:41.439 our unconscious minds. So on this show, we've spoken a 78 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:46.079 lot about programming and limiting belief systems and patterns that 79 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:49.079 we have had since we were really quite young. And 80 00:04:49.160 --> 00:04:52.920 for those of you that believe in patterns that happen 81 00:04:53.040 --> 00:04:56.240 before birth or even past lives that exist that have 82 00:04:56.319 --> 00:05:01.439 the potential to exist, then and and our unconscious mind 83 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:04.839 drives so much of what we do. Our conscious mind 84 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:07.639 has a part to play in that. But this other 85 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:12.319 place in us exists, this place of witness consciousness that 86 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:16.879 we speak to or observer. Some call it the subconscious, 87 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:20.639 some call it the super conscious. And it's this place 88 00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:25.439 where we're witnessing everything that's happening without being touched by it, 89 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:28.839 without being hurt by it, without being affected by it. 90 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:33.399 And that's the place that I believe intuition sits. And 91 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:36.040 so when you ask the question and my body gets 92 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:39.240 calm and quiet, what it also does is it sort 93 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:41.240 of for those of you watching, you can see my 94 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:47.240 hand moving towards center. It brings us back into alignment 95 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:55.040 with our true self, and it lands as just this knowing, 96 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:59.759 and it's a knowing. It sounds to me, I don't 97 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:01.439 know if you can even say it sounds when you 98 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:05.480 say I hear this still quiet voice. I don't know 99 00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:09.160 that I actually hear or I feel like I'm hearing, 100 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:13.079 but it sounds like a very still quiet voice that 101 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:18.600 starts off as a whisper, and it's a voice that 102 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:26.519 speaks very clearly and cleanly, often says things that my 103 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:32.600 conscious brain thinks are crazy. But it just it almost 104 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:37.839 it's like having this wise sage that sits inside of you, 105 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:40.680 that's speaking for you in the midst of all the 106 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:46.399 other noise that's going on amidst this the unconscious and 107 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:52.920 the conscious, and it speaks what feels like wisdom. 108 00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:54.040 Answer your question. 109 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:57.000 It does, and you know, he said something when at 110 00:06:57.000 --> 00:06:58.680 the start of that which I thought was really interesting. 111 00:06:58.680 --> 00:06:58.959 It's this. 112 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:03.600 It transcends experience Yeah, it's not a product of your experience, 113 00:07:03.639 --> 00:07:07.240 which is what you're certainly what your ego is. But 114 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:09.879 I wonder it's like I I relate to much of 115 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:12.240 you said, but I think I would for me anyways, 116 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:16.800 I see it slightly differently. There's the there's this very 117 00:07:16.839 --> 00:07:19.800 conscious thoughts are where the ones who are front these 118 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:24.879 decisions we make. There's this subconscious which is probably generated 119 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:27.959 from our childhood and early experiences or limiting beliefs and 120 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:30.279 fears that are probably driving a lot of the bus. 121 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:33.240 But then there's something else which I think I probably 122 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:36.600 more tap into intuition, is universal consciousness. The thing is 123 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:40.680 that to attach to everything and everything forwards and backwards 124 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:45.199 throughout time. It's timeless, it's just all information, and I've 125 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:50.040 always felt or believed that my intuition resides from that place. 126 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:53.839 I don't know that we're actually disagreeing with each other. 127 00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:57.000 I actually think that there's agreement, except for the fact 128 00:07:57.000 --> 00:07:58.720 that I don't know that I would call what sits 129 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:01.000 under the Iceberg subcond just I think I would call 130 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:07.800 it unconscious. But that creative intelligence, or that pure intelligence 131 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:11.279 that you're speaking to, if I'm to relate to it 132 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:13.879 in the way that I just shared, I would say 133 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:18.000 to me that intelligence is soul intelligence. Yeah, and soul 134 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:21.360 intelligence is where we are all connected. There is no separation. 135 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:25.720 We're sort of tapping into the quantum field. Right, So 136 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:27.680 are we Do we see things the same way? 137 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:28.319 I think we do? 138 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:30.680 Okay, I think we do because I just wanted to 139 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:33.679 make that differentiation, because it's like this idea of you know, 140 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:37.360 I think in intuition, it's come whether it shows up 141 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:39.799 as a voice or a knowing or something like that. 142 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:42.759 It's like, oh, that's that's not something that's come up 143 00:08:42.759 --> 00:08:44.759 from a thought, that's in my profre revision, that's coming 144 00:08:44.759 --> 00:08:47.679 from elsewhere. Oh, it must be my intuition. But it 145 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:51.080 could also be fear. It could also be something from trauma, 146 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:54.639 or it could be something from our our unknown programming 147 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:55.120 as well. 148 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:56.559 So how do we differentiate between the. 149 00:08:56.600 --> 00:08:58.200 Well, I was just going to ask you the question. 150 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:03.720 So when I speak to you about intuition, what happens 151 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:06.159 in your body or in your awareness? 152 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:07.960 Let me speak about it. 153 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:13.600 If I speak the word intuition, or I repeat Michael 154 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:16.879 Singer's quote that says there's nothing more important to true 155 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:19.559 growth and realizing that you are not the voice of 156 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:23.120 the mind. You are the one that hears it. What 157 00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:26.080 happens in your body, That's probably not the right question. 158 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:27.080 It's not the right question for me. 159 00:09:27.159 --> 00:09:28.519 What happens in your awareness? 160 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:30.720 My awareness is that's go, that's truth. 161 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:35.480 Because I've had I've had the experience of of a 162 00:09:36.639 --> 00:09:40.039 of a growing intuition, particularly in the last decade, and 163 00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:42.039 so I've gone from a place where it didn't feel 164 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:45.840 like I understood what intuition was. Nor is one trust 165 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:49.320 that too, Oh, this is this is the voice or 166 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:52.000 this is the knowing that I'm meant to follow what 167 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:53.799 I'm actually meant to get it of my own way 168 00:09:53.919 --> 00:09:57.200 and follow this particular voice. So in a sense, yeah, 169 00:09:57.480 --> 00:09:59.240 now that I'm saying that out loud, I can feel 170 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:03.360 my body settling into this. Yes, this is We're in truth. 171 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:08.240 Your body is talking to you just a little. It's okay, 172 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:12.559 that's a step I'm trying. Don't try you, do you? 173 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:18.519 But so, how do you know when your intuition is 174 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:21.600 speaking versus all those other voices? 175 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:27.879 By the content of it. 176 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:31.200 Same more that's curious, by. 177 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:36.399 The content of it. You know, there's this. 178 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:43.360 The content of my own voice is predominantly for me 179 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:46.120 it's driven by myself will. And I got some pretty 180 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:49.039 good tests for what myself will are by the content 181 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:52.080 of a voice that's driven by a higher calling. And 182 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:54.159 I'm going to call that God's will, right, And I 183 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:57.000 can do this very and as it comes up, I 184 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:59.360 can do as simple test as this self will or 185 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:00.279 is God's will? 186 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:01.200 I mean, what am I what? 187 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.120 Where it's it driving me to do? And I'd go 188 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:08.600 further because in the you know, we're going to jump 189 00:11:08.600 --> 00:11:10.200 ahead here in a sense, and how do we develop 190 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:13.679 our intuition? But I'll I'll start that conversation. 191 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:17.039 Here a little bit. Is the only way I've come. 192 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:20.919 To trust my intuition or facilitator fostered intuition is knowing 193 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:24.120 what my intuition isn't. I'm much more aware of that, 194 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:27.440 and then what's left becomes my intuition, and I don't 195 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:30.399 always get it right, and sometimes I'll oh, this is intuition, 196 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:32.559 and after the fact you realized that was not intuition. 197 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:34.679 We've had some of those conversations. 198 00:11:34.759 --> 00:11:37.039 Yeah, But the more I practice that, the more I 199 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:41.240 practice inquiring into oh, what what's this that's coming up? 200 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:43.279 Where is it coming from? Is this coming from my 201 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:46.120 knowing fears. Is it coming from my knowing, living beliefs? 202 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:48.960 Know it's something else and I don't. I don't recall 203 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:52.039 thinking it. That's intuition. I'm going to I'm going to 204 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:53.840 sort of take a bet and follow this thing now, 205 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:57.440 even though it's my thinking mind is rejecting it, or 206 00:11:57.480 --> 00:11:59.000 it's taking me to a place that I that I 207 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:01.639 wouldn't have thought ever had been natural to me. That's 208 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:04.600 the voice I am more and more try to follow. 209 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:07.559 So I have a question that's coming up, which is 210 00:12:08.759 --> 00:12:11.080 our intuition and gut instinct the same thing. 211 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:15.720 I think it can be, but it don't have to be. 212 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:19.200 I think just like anything I think that. I think 213 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:22.120 there's this hodgepodge of stuff that comes from under as 214 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:24.840 you said that under the service of the iceberg. That's 215 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:28.600 the shadow side of It's our programming, conditioning. We don't 216 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:32.799 fully understand the traumas we haven't resolved. That is also 217 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:35.200 mixed in with the intuition. It comes up from the depths, 218 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:39.240 and until we can differentiate what it is, I think 219 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:42.000 you can feel like, oh, that's a gut feeling. I'm 220 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:45.120 having an emotional response to this that therefore it's something 221 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:47.639 below the surface, but I don't know what it is 222 00:12:47.720 --> 00:12:48.600 yet until I. 223 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:48.960 Look at it. 224 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:51.399 Yeah, the question came up for me as I was 225 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:54.039 listening to you speak, and I think in the past 226 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:56.799 I might have said that, yes, gut instinct and intuition 227 00:12:57.519 --> 00:13:01.360 are very much aligned. But I think often instincts are 228 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:06.879 emotionally driven, and they're emotionally driven from past experiences in 229 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:17.240 our memories, and sometimes they are intuition speaking. So how 230 00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:24.440 do we or how do you? How do you work 231 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:26.879 with what you call intuition? You say you ask the 232 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:32.080 question in our intro of can it be trained? Or 233 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:36.159 is it just something that's there or not? What do 234 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:38.200 you think? The answer to that one is. 235 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:41.399 Well, so there's two questions there, and I'll start with 236 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:42.879 the second one. I think it's always there. 237 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:45.919 I think, I mean, our intuition is not something that 238 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:51.159 we have to develop, it's something we have to learn 239 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:54.120 to listen to it. I think if it in terms 240 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:58.120 of it's a radio station and what we are is 241 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:03.360 we're receivers and transmitters, but mostly receivers, and we have 242 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:06.919 our our state are station tuned to something and that's 243 00:14:06.919 --> 00:14:10.879 something is is often our our ego, thinking mind and 244 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:14.039 our you know, our subconscious these are the these are this, 245 00:14:14.039 --> 00:14:15.879 This is the music we're dancing to, and our thoughts, 246 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:19.039 these thoughts we're listening to and to. Intuition is just 247 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:21.159 broadcasting all the time, but we don't know how to 248 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:24.720 listen to it, and so it can be trained in 249 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:27.000 the sense that it's training ourselves to try to listen 250 00:14:27.720 --> 00:14:30.279 for that other sound, to try to change our dial 251 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:33.519 to pick up that as well as this, or maybe, 252 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:36.519 if possible, turn the dial. So now we're picking up 253 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:40.399 the broadcast of our intuition, not the broadcast of our 254 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:44.080 of our trained thinking mind and our subconscious programming. 255 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:49.240 What are wiz in which you've worked to train your 256 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:53.039 intuition or to train your mind to hear that radio station? 257 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:55.519 You know? 258 00:14:55.559 --> 00:15:00.440 The first step is to understand again, what's the music 259 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:03.120 that's being what's the what's the sound that's being broadcast 260 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:06.679 from my thinking mind? As singer says, can I stop 261 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:09.799 and observe my thoughts? Where are these thoughts coming from? 262 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:12.519 And then beginning to recognize, Oh, I'm saying, I'm thinking 263 00:15:12.519 --> 00:15:16.080 the same seventy thousand, ninety thousand thoughts every day. 264 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:18.759 I'm on a loop about. 265 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:21.120 This identity I have the fears I have, the things 266 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:23.399 I have, and the more I start seeing where they're 267 00:15:23.399 --> 00:15:26.440 coming from, I'm recognizing it's coming from this well of 268 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:29.799 my own experience, of my own fears, of my own 269 00:15:29.840 --> 00:15:34.879 belief systems, and learning more to let let those go 270 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:38.320 and observe them and pay attention to this is not 271 00:15:38.519 --> 00:15:40.679 this is not the information I want to listen to, 272 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:45.679 and within that starting to see thoughts arise or yeah, 273 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:49.679 thoughts or feelings arise that are not those and paying 274 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:51.440 more attention to those over time. 275 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:55.279 And I throw in a big part of this too. 276 00:15:55.360 --> 00:15:57.879 It's a it's a complicated question, so I'm having trouble 277 00:15:57.919 --> 00:15:58.519 answering it. 278 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:01.039 You're doing a great that actually. 279 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:04.159 One of the one of the main stays in it 280 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:07.000 in my own experience, and this is very on early 281 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:09.720 on in my my journey of of you know, first 282 00:16:09.720 --> 00:16:11.320 of all, you being recognize them that there is infoition 283 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:13.720 and realizing, oh, that's that's that's what I want to 284 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:14.159 listen to. 285 00:16:16.519 --> 00:16:16.840 I was. 286 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:19.799 I was in this place Mirabaul, which I brought up 287 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:22.759 many times before, and one of the one of the 288 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:25.639 practitioners there who had done some work on me, saw 289 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:28.720 me walking around the grounds. Later on and I had 290 00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:31.360 my headphones on. I was listening to like some electronic 291 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:34.120 dance music or something like that, and he pulled me 292 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:37.759 aside and just said, man, when you're in here yesterday, 293 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:40.600 you're struggling. You you have to be aware that what 294 00:16:40.600 --> 00:16:44.399 what you put put in your head is profoundly influential 295 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:46.440 in all your thoughts, systems, and everything else. It's like, 296 00:16:46.720 --> 00:16:48.559 I have a prescription for you, and it's for you 297 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:52.759 to get off social media, stop watching news, stop watching 298 00:16:54.039 --> 00:16:58.679 movies on Netflix, and only listen to spiritual music. Try 299 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:01.240 that for a year and see see what happens, and 300 00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:05.400 I'll tell you. And I did that, and all my 301 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:09.400 thoughts began to change once I removed the bombardment of 302 00:17:09.400 --> 00:17:13.400 the propaganda can the societal conditioning, the stuff I was 303 00:17:13.400 --> 00:17:17.039 putting in my head, the thought, the thought, the profile 304 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:19.160 of my thoughts began to change as part of that. 305 00:17:20.039 --> 00:17:20.880 It's interesting. 306 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:27.559 We just spent the last five days on Bowen Island 307 00:17:28.839 --> 00:17:33.559 doing some facilitation of a retreat, and I really noticed 308 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:38.920 we're sitting in nature, and in many ways we didn't. 309 00:17:39.640 --> 00:17:43.400 We chose not to access a lot of noise, so 310 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:47.880 no television, no movies, no whatever. And it was amazing. 311 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:50.640 When I drove back into the city last night and 312 00:17:50.680 --> 00:17:54.599 I saw like billboards and other things, I was really 313 00:17:54.640 --> 00:18:00.599 struck by the difference in consciousness that was growing up 314 00:18:00.759 --> 00:18:04.839 being immersed in nature or as you know, forest bathing 315 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:10.079 as they say, versus being in the busyness of the 316 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:14.559 real world in quotations, and what that actually did to 317 00:18:14.599 --> 00:18:15.400 my nervous system. 318 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:17.200 So I get it. 319 00:18:21.720 --> 00:18:31.480 In my experience, intuition is only really accessible when the 320 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:38.000 nervous system has come. Our nervous systems our brains really 321 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:40.519 in many ways, you know, we put a lot of 322 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:47.039 we put a lot of energy and talking into our 323 00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:53.839 prefrontal cortex and the place of reasoning and rational thinking, 324 00:18:54.759 --> 00:18:59.759 and yet much of our brain is really focused more 325 00:18:59.839 --> 00:19:03.480 on on that unconscious place that we're speaking to that 326 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:07.559 sits under the iceberg. And if our brain in any 327 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:13.200 way is put into its sympathetic state or stress response, 328 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:17.720 our capacity to be able to listen to anything beyond 329 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:24.480 our survival diminishes tremendously. And so so much of the 330 00:19:24.519 --> 00:19:28.680 work that we do, when we'll speak about I do 331 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:34.920 more specifically, is really in working to train the nervous 332 00:19:34.920 --> 00:19:41.640 system into a place of relaxation, often by creating enough 333 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:46.920 hermetic stress or just enough stress that creates that balance 334 00:19:47.079 --> 00:19:51.160 back of relaxation in order to then be able to 335 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:56.759 hear what exists beyond survival mode. Most of us, without 336 00:19:56.759 --> 00:19:59.799 even being conscious of it, are walking around in survival 337 00:19:59.839 --> 00:20:03.640 mode all the time. And so from that place, we 338 00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:06.519 don't actually even have access to that voice of your tuition. 339 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:08.799 You're in a fight or flight, you can't hear that station, right, 340 00:20:09.079 --> 00:20:12.480 that term there's too much noise. Yeah, And it's actually 341 00:20:13.240 --> 00:20:16.640 and you've put it beautifully. I mean, that's actually part 342 00:20:16.680 --> 00:20:19.759 of a part of our human condition, and that's that's 343 00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:22.039 if we're in fight or flight, if there's danger, we 344 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:24.200 don't want to be accessing intuition to that point in time. 345 00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:24.799 We want to be. 346 00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:28.720 Evaluating the environment, getting tunnel vision and finding a way 347 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:31.880 to escape it. Our intuition is not helpful then, So 348 00:20:31.920 --> 00:20:35.279 it's a great feature of being human that's been hijacked 349 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:35.799 a little. 350 00:20:35.559 --> 00:20:36.720 Bit here totally. 351 00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:39.960 Something else is coming to mind, which I find curious. 352 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:43.960 I've never thought about this before, but in our training 353 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:49.480 from the Yoga scriptures, what we've learned is that we 354 00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:54.240 have three minds, and one is the negative mind, and 355 00:20:54.279 --> 00:20:57.960 the negative mind isn't negative, it's actually really important. And 356 00:20:58.039 --> 00:21:03.359 the negative mind is that place of moving toward things 357 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:07.279 that promote survival and saying no to things that are dangerous. 358 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:12.279 It keeps us safe. The positive mind is all about 359 00:21:12.319 --> 00:21:16.640 saying yes, and it's expansiveness and possibility, but out of whack, 360 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:22.480 it also creates lots of trouble. The neutral mind is 361 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:26.720 that mind that can hear those thoughts coming from both 362 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:33.480 sides and actually operate along the middle path that Daoists 363 00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:36.440 talk a lot about. And what came to me as 364 00:21:36.480 --> 00:21:40.119 we were talking is that that middle They use the 365 00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:45.480 word middle path, right, and intuition, as it's understood in 366 00:21:46.079 --> 00:21:50.240 many different energetic systems, is the third eye. And the 367 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:55.880 third eye sits right in the middle, and much of 368 00:21:56.799 --> 00:22:00.640 I think much of intuition actually sits right there. Well, 369 00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:05.720 we're not being pulled towards scarcity or safety, and we're 370 00:22:05.759 --> 00:22:10.240 not being pulled towards the direction of pure expansiveness, but 371 00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:14.079 we're actually meeting somewhere in the middle. That voice all 372 00:22:14.119 --> 00:22:17.240 of a sudden comes online or that radio station, we 373 00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:17.640 can hear it. 374 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:21.519 Yeah, yeah, I mean the third eye. It's like the 375 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:23.839 all it's the all ci that that seed of intuition. 376 00:22:24.319 --> 00:22:28.359 Yeah, so. 377 00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:32.440 You know we were talking. I can't remember what we 378 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:35.079 were saying on our last podcast where I said, that's 379 00:22:35.079 --> 00:22:37.000 something that I've been with since I was a little girl. 380 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:38.599 Do you remember what it was? 381 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:42.400 I don't, Okay. 382 00:22:43.000 --> 00:22:46.960 I definitely have a very active, negative and positive mind, 383 00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:50.440 and I do not operate for my intuition twenty four 384 00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:53.200 to seven. I don't know that any of us living 385 00:22:53.279 --> 00:22:57.160 in this world can operate twenty four to seven from 386 00:22:57.160 --> 00:23:00.680 our intuition because there's noise that's being It pulls us 387 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:07.720 in different directions. But I definitely know that practices like chigang, 388 00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:15.200 tai chi, yoga, breath work, meditation, martial arts, they all 389 00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:18.839 bring us into a place that actually centers us and 390 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:23.440 roots us so that when life comes to knock us 391 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:29.559 down or the wind changes, we don't actually get knocked 392 00:23:29.599 --> 00:23:32.680 over or break, but we learn how to pivot right 393 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:37.240 and so we can stay in that center place. And 394 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:42.920 in my experience, that voice that we're speaking of has 395 00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:47.119 come forward a number of times. I can think of 396 00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:54.960 specific circumstances in my life where my intuition spoke, and 397 00:23:55.039 --> 00:23:57.920 it spoke in ways that didn't make any sense to 398 00:23:58.000 --> 00:24:03.119 my thinking mind and I was compelled. 399 00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:05.119 To listen. 400 00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:08.519 And then I can think of a number of times 401 00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:12.640