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<v Speaker 1>Balky. What a terrible first movie to see with perfect eyesights,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Like I was so excited to see my

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<v Speaker 1>first movie without glasses at the theaters. And it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be forever. I'll never have a first movie without

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<v Speaker 1>glasses again. Forever. It's going to be five nights at

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<v Speaker 1>Freddy's two.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I have to ask you, Ben, where is the

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<v Speaker 2>gym theorem on this? Did you go to the gym?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not allowed to exercise. I haven't been to the

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<v Speaker 1>gym since, so don't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think you would have enjoyed it more?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it may there's a chance I got that euphoria feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose that's a possibility, But no, I I have

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<v Speaker 1>been told I'm not allowed to lift more than forty pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, jokes on you, that's a struggle.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I'm not allowed to go because fun fact,

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<v Speaker 1>when you get lasik, they they open your corneas and

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<v Speaker 1>then they do what they need to do and then

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of put them back together. And if I

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<v Speaker 1>lean forward and strained to hard, I could pop my

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<v Speaker 1>cornera oh my god, so that they just be flapping

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<v Speaker 1>in the in there. And you know, I enjoy the gym,

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<v Speaker 1>and I like that I'm getting healthier again. I could

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<v Speaker 1>wait the week, you know, like that's kind of how

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<v Speaker 1>I look at it here, But that's that's where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at with that here. But no, no gym time. And

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<v Speaker 1>I went in much like how you go in with

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<v Speaker 1>positive attitudes, Like I went in, I'm like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna suck, Like why why.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you think it was gonna suck? Because I think

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you make up your mind that it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's not gonna be good, then you're not gonna enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah what what?

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<v Speaker 2>What? Led? So obviously we chose this yes, because you

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<v Speaker 2>had seen the first one sure and clearly enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Otherwise we wouldn't be.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching no no, no, no, no, don't don't don't put words don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would Why would we watch a sequel to a

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<v Speaker 2>movie that you did not enjoy?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say it makes sense, okay, all right? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that it was a horror movie that was out.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a recognizable property, and as I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about with you off the air, he's doing well in

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<v Speaker 1>the box office exclusively based on name recognition. The first

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<v Speaker 1>one is universally panned, even by five Nights at Freddy Fans. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this one looked like a different take on it, Like

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<v Speaker 1>if I could compare it to something, there's like six

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<v Speaker 1>or seven Meala jojovis six seven six, I gotta do

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<v Speaker 1>it six seven Yeah, six or seven Meala Jojovic Resident

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<v Speaker 1>Evil movies and they're nothing like the games. And then

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<v Speaker 1>one day Netflix decided let's make an actual resident Evil

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<v Speaker 1>movie that doesn't have yeah, and that somehow sucked even

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<v Speaker 1>more than the Meala Jojovic one.

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<v Speaker 2>But which is why they do that, which is why

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<v Speaker 2>they listen. We can't just make it all about the game, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there has to be some other element in this.

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<v Speaker 1>This seemed like five nights effort to be like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>the first one was really not like the game in

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of way, and this one, based on the

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<v Speaker 1>trailers and the marketing for it, was like, what if

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<v Speaker 1>we did the game and movie for him? And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, maybe there's a chance that they could

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<v Speaker 1>rectify this. But I always go into video game movies

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<v Speaker 1>assuming they are gonna suck. Even though there have been

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<v Speaker 1>some good ones, the rule of thumb is it's a

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<v Speaker 1>bad what what.

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<v Speaker 2>Are the good ones? Mortal Kombat oh yeah, both of them, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Three of them. I'd give all three three. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a newer one that came out in like twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I thought they're making another one after that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh they are. Yeah. And then so there's the one

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<v Speaker 1>from nineteen ninety seven. Ye that love was Mortal Kombat

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<v Speaker 1>Annihilation that came out to later same cast, very very bad.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point, Sonya Blade gets like in a mud

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling contest. Yeah, another girl. But when you're twelve years old,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, no, this is a good movie. This is

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<v Speaker 1>this is exactly what I sawn it for.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, the first one I remember liking. I saw it

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<v Speaker 2>in theaters. Yeah, and I didn't play the game. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>this is just awesome. Throw it on right now. The CGI.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to pretend it's good CGI, but for

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety seven in a in a in a video

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<v Speaker 1>game movie.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what the CGI look like like. It's very impressive

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<v Speaker 2>for the day with Prince s Goron or whatever. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh and uh falling off the cliff that was like, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fantastic. Like the lizard be in a camo like

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<v Speaker 1>thing and it becomes a statue like there's moments in

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<v Speaker 1>that freaking throwing the water and it becomes an icicle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's stuff happening in that movie in nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 1>seven that like, yes it is nostalgia, and yes it

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<v Speaker 1>is being a kid, but I can see why everyone

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<v Speaker 1>thinks it's awesome. Right, More contemporary examples until Dawn, which

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<v Speaker 1>I've pitched you. It's on Netflix right now. I loved

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<v Speaker 1>that one. The Sonic movies, like they're for kids. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen them, but they're doing a billion dollars. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my kids come out. I haven't seen them, but my

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<v Speaker 1>kids love them. Yeah the list. Jim Carrey's in it,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's probably good.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But so like but by and large, all the

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<v Speaker 1>resident Evil movies, the Street Fighter can be the original

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<v Speaker 1>Super Mario Brothers. It's kind of a crap fest. Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's very difficult to make a video game into a

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<v Speaker 1>movie in a way that people like.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that this one? So I'm kind of curious, like,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think after they made the first one they

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<v Speaker 2>realized that we kind of miss because the people who

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<v Speaker 2>want to see this movie want to see it because

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<v Speaker 2>of the game, and it wasn't really all about the game,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in the first one. So then so then

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<v Speaker 2>they make the second one, and I'm wondering if, like

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<v Speaker 2>it still was not enough of a ref because when

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<v Speaker 2>you make when you make references of the game, that

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<v Speaker 2>can work both ways where people get annoyed like oh god,

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<v Speaker 2>that's so cookie cutter, like you know, I'm too cool

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<v Speaker 2>for this, but then at the same time, you you

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<v Speaker 2>want to make it obvious enough we're like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's cool that like how they did how they how

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<v Speaker 2>they do it in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently there's a ton of easter eggs that you and

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<v Speaker 1>I clearly because.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't play the game, right, yeah, yeah, and and

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<v Speaker 2>and so somebody else who would have was it the

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<v Speaker 2>same director for both movies. I didn't even look.

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<v Speaker 1>I can figure that out.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, because I wonder if they're like they

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<v Speaker 2>kind of scrap and they're like, Okay, we'll bring Hutcherson back.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll bring I can't remember the woman's name back, she

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<v Speaker 2>plays Vanessa in the movie. We'll bring these characters back.

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<v Speaker 2>But we want to change the theme, we want to

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<v Speaker 2>change the tone, we want to change the and you know, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>what it kind of reminded me of Ben the the

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<v Speaker 2>second one, the plot line.

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<v Speaker 1>With it, what hit me with it?

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<v Speaker 2>Mithrigan? Oh Yeahgan two point zero. Yeah, there's there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of elements to that, I mean, especially with the

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<v Speaker 2>robot aspect of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Wrong, Emma Tammy for both one and two.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so she directed both of them.

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<v Speaker 1>And Kevin Lewis for the far superior Willy's Wonderland. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll get into that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking with commission at work and I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Five Nights at Freddy's, Like, Hey, do you

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<v Speaker 2>know what the better five Nights of Freddy's movie is?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, does it have Nicholas Cage And he's like yes,

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<v Speaker 2>And we couldn't remember the name of it, obviously, but

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<v Speaker 2>he was referring to that one. And I saw that

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<v Speaker 2>one before I saw it either either of these.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's fantastic comparatively, and again rated are much

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<v Speaker 1>more adult themed, even though it still is silly and goofy,

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<v Speaker 1>it is definitely a little more I know they were

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<v Speaker 1>parts of this that kind of messed with stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't like, but I'd argue.

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<v Speaker 2>The first one was definitely more unsettling than the second.

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<v Speaker 1>One you think, So I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't like, you know, it was creepy. I don't like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, things, because you know, I went to Chuck

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<v Speaker 2>E Cheese when I was in Showbiz Pizza, which was

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<v Speaker 2>like the forerunner to Chuck E.

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<v Speaker 1>Cheese, and there was always a creepiness to those. There

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<v Speaker 1>was even when they weren't.

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<v Speaker 2>But for the most part, it was like it was

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<v Speaker 2>a positive you know. It was a nostalgia where it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I worked really hard in school, I got all these

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<v Speaker 2>good grades. Now I get to go and spend it

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<v Speaker 2>on tokens and eat pizza and like the the furry characters.

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<v Speaker 2>I maybe I was a little bit too old for

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<v Speaker 2>that at that point when I was going, but that

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do it for me. But then to see, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just thinking back to my own childhood and

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<v Speaker 2>seeing these creatures come to life and kill people and

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<v Speaker 2>then you have dead kids being kidnapped and murdered, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like this is like I never saw Black Phone, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I would enjoy that. Yeah, Love Lovely

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<v Speaker 2>Bones with Mark Wahlberg. Sure hated that great movie and

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<v Speaker 2>I hated it. I couldn't even enjoy it. Yeah, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I watched that when I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's it hit differently. Okay, but I think maybe

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<v Speaker 2>now that I have kids, maybe it's not to sound pretentious,

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<v Speaker 2>but but like too late.

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<v Speaker 1>So exactly what a what A about twenty eight years later?

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<v Speaker 1>That movie started with a bunch of kids in a room.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't show you anything, but it's heavily in blood.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously one of them survived, as we learned at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that with that, it's it's zombies. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's a lot less real for me. Okay, whereas I

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<v Speaker 2>know pedophiles, sure, I don't even know if they're pedophile

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<v Speaker 2>matth Yeah, I can spoil the first one at least. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if Matthew Lillard is is like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>actually grati Yeah, he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Just murdering children. Yeah, now I hear that, and I get.

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<v Speaker 2>But even the opening scene of the second one, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. See, I think I'm just a siding and like

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna sound left up, but like it's also real.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the We'll use the Thomas Jane Punisher movie because

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<v Speaker 1>it always goes back to Marvel when they're killing his

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<v Speaker 1>entire family, and the hit man like is looking and

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<v Speaker 1>all the kids are hiding under the table, and you

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<v Speaker 1>think they're gonna get away, and then he like backtracks

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<v Speaker 1>and looks under and he like sees all the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you just see the machine gun light up.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember being sixteen years old being like, oh, so

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to be a good movie. Like I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Realize the stuff that, like, they don't normally do that,

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<v Speaker 2>But to me, the idea of killing pets or killing

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly. Pet cemetery gauge runs.

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<v Speaker 2>In front of that super creepy right, and you're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And they absolutely did, and for me, that is a

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<v Speaker 2>One of the greatest, most talked about episodes of The

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<v Speaker 2>want to say Walking Dead reinventing itself, but going somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>just but again it's now one of the most talked

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<v Speaker 2>about episodes probably in television history too. I would think,

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<v Speaker 2>like when you talk about killing kids like that, Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I did notice in this one, and it wasn't just

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<v Speaker 2>it's because it's PG thirteen, right, so they're not going

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize it was PG thirteen. It makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I should have known that it was PG thirteen, But.

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<v Speaker 2>They wanted they want to maximize their return exactly, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if five Nights at Freddy's two is rated R, well,

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<v Speaker 2>parents are going to let their kids see that PG thirteen. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I can see that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm now going to provide you with the entire

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<v Speaker 1>the ring that ends the list.

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<v Speaker 2>The ring was PG thirteen, Yeah, right, exactly. It's well

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<v Speaker 2>and then The Ring and that's it. That's the entire

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<v Speaker 1>And like, there's a woman who boobs are hanging out.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it turns out that she's a she's like a

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right, you're a right, Yeah, Yeah, it's just weird.

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<v Speaker 2>at that time, right? You know that that this is

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<v Speaker 2>rated Vietnam? Yeah, so there you go. That explains like

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<v Speaker 2>with everything going on there in Southeast Asia was probably

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more unsettling. This guy is taking a fake

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<v Speaker 2>is fine. I always bring this up to with how

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<v Speaker 2>these ratings are a farce. They're an absolute farce. South Park,

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<v Speaker 2>me again south Park bigger, longer, and uncut. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>They decide they're going to make a movie, they make

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<v Speaker 2>it really raunchy. They send it in the ratings board.

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<v Speaker 2>They wanted an R rating, Trey Parker and Matt Stone. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the ratings board said, if you want an R rating,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to take this out, this out, this out

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<v Speaker 2>as it stands. The best we can do is NC seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, And that infuriated Trey Parker Mattstone. So they

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<v Speaker 2>went back. They made it worse, They made it like

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<v Speaker 2>few to them, and they sent it back to the

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<v Speaker 2>to them, like, okay, now we can give you the

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<v Speaker 2>R rating. Yes it's a joke. I mean, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>not to bring up the college football playoff thing, but like,

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<v Speaker 2>have you been talking about this?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about it, but like.

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<v Speaker 2>The Notre Dame aspect of where they're in the top ten,

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<v Speaker 2>like literally every single week and then the last week

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<v Speaker 2>and nothing happened, yeah to the team that moved in

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<v Speaker 2>front of him or not, Like it's it's a farce,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is. And I think the ratings board is

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<v Speaker 2>a farce too. I don't even know how much, like

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<v Speaker 2>less emphasis on that nowadays too, Like people don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>Ratings because we're the generation that like kind of was

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<v Speaker 1>by five, Like we were the ones that had to

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<v Speaker 1>sneak the movies. We had to sneak Grand Theft Auto,

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<v Speaker 1>we had to sneak the South Park movie. And then

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<v Speaker 1>when we grew up on it. The joke I tell

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<v Speaker 1>on the show all the time is show me a

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<v Speaker 1>boomer watching Fox News, and show me a millennial that

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<v Speaker 1>grew up playing GTA, and one of those people was

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<v Speaker 1>way more violent than the other. And it's not the

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<v Speaker 1>one you think it is. And so we're like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of grow we're now having our own kids, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>well I still wanna.

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<v Speaker 2>You know the thing, the thing that you always rip

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<v Speaker 2>on me for this for not letting my kids watch stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think for me, I was really sheltered as

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<v Speaker 2>watch on television and movies. And it was a different

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<v Speaker 2>era back then, Like there wasn't all this on demand

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<v Speaker 2>stuff on the internet where I could just watch it whenever.

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<v Speaker 2>And I enjoyed that part of my childhood where I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I watched my first PG thirteen, my first

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<v Speaker 2>R movie, I watched them at the right times, like

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<v Speaker 2>there is there's something I was happy I was not

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<v Speaker 2>exposing My parents did not expose me to that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>right's co and Okay, well maybe maybe, But now I

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<v Speaker 2>want to do the same thing for my kids. You

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<v Speaker 2>know why I was telling you. We're watching Stranger Things

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a scene and I wasn't the first episode

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<v Speaker 2>of season one where Nancy and Steve are like having

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<v Speaker 2>sex and my twelve year old son is watching this

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<v Speaker 2>with me. I'm like, I don't know if I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>he's twelve. I mean, I don't think it's like you

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<v Speaker 2>should probably know about this kind of stuff. But at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, I want to keep I would I

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<v Speaker 2>When I was at age, and I want to pass

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<v Speaker 2>that on to my kids too. But I get it,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and I am a staunch believer in what

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<v Speaker 2>you see, what kids see in video games, television, movies.

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<v Speaker 2>There there's just been there's been tons of research done

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<v Speaker 2>on this, and there's just no correlation between you watch this,

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<v Speaker 2>watch this on TV, then you're gonna be violent in

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<v Speaker 2>real life or dull. You know what I mean. There's

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<v Speaker 2>just there has no there's been no significant correlation. So

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like it was the Wild West in the

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<v Speaker 1>common Hoers House. What I always find interesting is I

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<v Speaker 1>could watch as a child. Leprechawn three right. Warwick Davi

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<v Speaker 1>an upstart actress in the Texas Chainsaw movies. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>plays like someone in her forties clinging to her youth.

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<v Speaker 1>there as a nine year old. Her lips get big

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<v Speaker 1>and explode off her face, her boobs get big, her

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<v Speaker 1>no issue whatsoever. The classic Christopher Nolan movie Memento, I

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<v Speaker 1>Guy Pierce's wife the sea word. My mom went turn

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<v Speaker 1>it off. And it's just like the so, like I get,

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny because my mom didn't really monitor what CDs

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<v Speaker 2>I was buying, but then she heard me listening to

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<v Speaker 2>Adam sand like an Adam Sander CD, and she made

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<v Speaker 2>me get rid of it, you know. And at that

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<v Speaker 2>point I was like sixteen or seventeen, and I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm old enough to be here this kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>like I and I don't think I ever sold it.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite frankly, I think I told her I did.

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<v Speaker 1>And further, I hope this isn't TMI, but you told

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<v Speaker 1>me off the air that there was a nightmare as

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<v Speaker 1>a result of stranger thing my son. Yeah, did he

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<v Speaker 1>come clean about that with you? Did? He'd say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>of what we want.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because he he crawled into bed, like because he

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<v Speaker 2>now when he gets home from school and I get

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<v Speaker 2>home from work, he's like, hey, can we watch an episode?

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<v Speaker 2>Like he still wants to watch it, but he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to put it that close to bed, And I

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<v Speaker 2>think stranger things, like he's more understanding, like this is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a mystery and we don't exactly know what's

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<v Speaker 2>five Nights at Freddy's Wich, it's just like it's all

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<v Speaker 2>about like the murder and the gore or whatever. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the reason I asked because my brother and I

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<v Speaker 1>handle it. The second you can't handle it, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>mine too, because I never told mom and dad because

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<v Speaker 2>My brother, who has passed away now, but he's a

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<v Speaker 2>so we slept in the same bed and he was

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<v Speaker 2>like flipping out and had nightmares. And he watched it once.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if he watched it again when

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<v Speaker 2>but guess what freaked him out from Ghostbusters? What he

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even I mean, i'd assume it would be

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<v Speaker 1>the dogs, it was not. Nope, you know what what

419
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<v Speaker 1>I can't even come.

420
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<v Speaker 2>On, think about that movie, think about the ghost, think

421
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<v Speaker 2>about this.

422
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<v Speaker 1>Is it the painting? No, you're you're painting?

423
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<v Speaker 2>You are? You gotta think of something that should not.

424
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<v Speaker 1>Be It's It's not Slimer.

425
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<v Speaker 2>No, no, this thing is more innocuous than Slimmer, Like

426
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<v Speaker 2>I I mean to me, it's more funny than anything else.

427
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<v Speaker 2>And he was so creeped out by it towards the

428
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<v Speaker 2>end of the movie, towards.

429
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<v Speaker 1>It's the end of the movie. It's not stay Puff.

430
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<v Speaker 2>The stay Puff Marshallow, That's what was was. He'd had

431
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<v Speaker 2>nightmares about it. He was so freaked out about it.

432
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<v Speaker 2>All the other stuff, you know, the screaming woman, ghost

433
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<v Speaker 2>in the library, Slimer whatever did that?

434
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<v Speaker 1>Uh? It was, but it doesn't make sense. Like I

435
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<v Speaker 1>could sit there and watch all the nightmare and Elm

436
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<v Speaker 1>Streets in a row no issues. Watching Christopher Lloyd become

437
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<v Speaker 1>a cartoon and freaking who framed Roger Rabbit was nightmare

438
00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:29.559
<v Speaker 1>for me. I'd be like, let me know when it's over.

439
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<v Speaker 1>I can't handle this anymore.

440
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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's because everybody's different.

441
00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:35.759
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's got their triggers that that kicks them into gear.

442
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<v Speaker 1>You know what I had nightmares about for for weeks.

443
00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Was Joe Peshy threatening to bite all of Kevin McAllister's

444
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<v Speaker 1>fingers off in a role alone And I had a

445
00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:47.680
<v Speaker 1>dream that things were trying to bite my fingers off

446
00:19:47.720 --> 00:19:50.960
<v Speaker 1>for weeks. I was terrified. It wasn't freaking Chucky or

447
00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:54.319
<v Speaker 1>Jason was Joe Pesci and a kid. It's weird, Like,

448
00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:56.880
<v Speaker 1>that's just how that stuff kind of works, and let's

449
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<v Speaker 1>be real. Maybe you can speak more to this, But

450
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<v Speaker 1>the stuff when we were it's like the people threw

451
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<v Speaker 1>stuff into screw with us.

452
00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Like kids movies would.

453
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<v Speaker 1>Have one random, unnecessarily scary moment in them, like in

454
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<v Speaker 1>Home Alone, where like the furnace would come to life

455
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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, why do we need this? We don't

456
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<v Speaker 1>need this scene in here right now, I'm six.

457
00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:18.599
<v Speaker 2>And getting back to five Nights at Freddy's. Yeah, they

458
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<v Speaker 2>pointed out I think it was. It was one of

459
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<v Speaker 2>the paranormal investigators in the second one, Yeah, where he

460
00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:27.640
<v Speaker 2>gets freaked out by one of the animatronics and he's like,

461
00:20:27.960 --> 00:20:29.079
<v Speaker 2>what kid would go to this?

462
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<v Speaker 1>Please?

463
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's what I was thinking the whole time

464
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<v Speaker 2>through the first movie and the second movie. I was

465
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<v Speaker 2>thinking that. And I'll tell you the other thing that

466
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't like. The most unsettling part of this second

467
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<v Speaker 2>movie was the opening scene, which is a flashback to

468
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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty two.

469
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

470
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<v Speaker 2>Now, granted I was only three years old then, but

471
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<v Speaker 2>it was very much like the late eighties of Chuck E.

472
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<v Speaker 2>Cheese and Chobis Pizza that I remember, and it brought

473
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<v Speaker 2>me back. And then to see what happens in that scene, yeah,

474
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<v Speaker 2>I just And.

475
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<v Speaker 1>That's probably what they're going for, right, because they assume

476
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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the parents in the audience are probably

477
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<v Speaker 1>around your age. That's gonna resonate, and the kids playing

478
00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:06.359
<v Speaker 1>the game are gonna it's gonna hit them on a

479
00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:09.720
<v Speaker 1>different level, which realistically is good movie making. Now I

480
00:21:09.759 --> 00:21:12.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't put that to I didn't necessarily feel the nostalgia

481
00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:14.599
<v Speaker 1>the same way, but uh, that's interesting.

482
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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you another thing that I did not like

483
00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:21.759
<v Speaker 2>about the second one. Yeah, all the reveals that Vanessa

484
00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:27.079
<v Speaker 2>had hidden from Mike. I don't understand in what world

485
00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:30.400
<v Speaker 2>is this just so traumatic that that she can't talk

486
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<v Speaker 2>about it at the expense of maybe people dying, you

487
00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:36.119
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? Like, and and they even point

488
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<v Speaker 2>that they even point that out. I can't remember as

489
00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:39.680
<v Speaker 2>the first or of the second one because I watched

490
00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:42.559
<v Speaker 2>them close together. But Mike even says, is there anything

491
00:21:42.599 --> 00:21:44.839
<v Speaker 2>else you'd like to tell me? Right? And I'm thinking

492
00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:47.079
<v Speaker 2>of like the same thing, and then the big reveal

493
00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:49.519
<v Speaker 2>at the end of this one. I'm like, Jesus, what

494
00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:52.759
<v Speaker 2>is with this woman? I just I can't believe after

495
00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:55.640
<v Speaker 2>all the conversations that she and Mike had and and

496
00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:57.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm supposed to believe that, and you know what, and

497
00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:01.759
<v Speaker 2>you spoiler alert. And one ends as a setup to

498
00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:02.640
<v Speaker 2>a third.

499
00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:03.920
<v Speaker 1>One that is almost certainly coming.

500
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<v Speaker 2>But go on, but we haven't seen anything about like

501
00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:08.039
<v Speaker 2>an outspense of like yeah, it's it's been greenlit, we

502
00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:10.279
<v Speaker 2>got a script, whatever, but it seems like it's coming.

503
00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:12.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

504
00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:15.640
<v Speaker 2>I can't even imagine what is going to be revealed

505
00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:18.599
<v Speaker 2>in the third one, right, you know, the like like

506
00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:23.759
<v Speaker 2>as far as or stuff that she was keeping from

507
00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:27.519
<v Speaker 2>Mike and and my and and I mean, well, I'll

508
00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:29.039
<v Speaker 2>just leave it at that because I'm gonna spoil to you.

509
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, And that is the type. I think we

510
00:22:32.079 --> 00:22:34.440
<v Speaker 1>made the comparison before, and I don't remember what movie

511
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<v Speaker 1>it was, but I compared it to Breaking Bad, and

512
00:22:36.359 --> 00:22:38.319
<v Speaker 1>you said, well, in Breaking Bad, when you have these

513
00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:41.319
<v Speaker 1>high octane moments, you might not be thinking clearly and

514
00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:44.000
<v Speaker 1>talk well, which I did concede. I'm like, okay, maybe

515
00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:45.759
<v Speaker 1>because I thought a lot of the drama in that

516
00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:49.720
<v Speaker 1>show was brought about from A Walt being maybe too

517
00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:51.880
<v Speaker 1>vague at times when I'm just like, if you just

518
00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:54.359
<v Speaker 1>said what the fucking problem was, we could get out

519
00:22:54.400 --> 00:22:56.480
<v Speaker 1>of this. And that was kind of the lynchpin for

520
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<v Speaker 1>the entire plot of this movie is that like, yeah,

521
00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:02.440
<v Speaker 1>she I just don't feel like talking about it, and like,

522
00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:04.559
<v Speaker 1>let's be real. I don't mean to minimize what people

523
00:23:04.599 --> 00:23:08.680
<v Speaker 1>go through, but they're there. Trauma is very much a

524
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<v Speaker 1>gen z okay thing that we don't necessarily relates.

525
00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:15.480
<v Speaker 2>What's what's the what's the the the thing with we

526
00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:19.279
<v Speaker 2>have been coached and drilled into our brains. These people

527
00:23:19.319 --> 00:23:22.839
<v Speaker 2>that that have these traumatic moments. Think about Andrew Garfield

528
00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:27.039
<v Speaker 2>and uh the Spider Man for or whatever it was

529
00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:32.319
<v Speaker 2>where where he failed to save what's her name Gwen

530
00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:35.599
<v Speaker 2>Stacy in The Amazing Spider Man two and then he

531
00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:38.720
<v Speaker 2>saves m J. Yeah, you know it's not like he's

532
00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:43.440
<v Speaker 2>he's he's peeing himself and frozen. No, he reacts because

533
00:23:43.480 --> 00:23:47.319
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't want this to happen to somebody else. Vanessa, Yeah,

534
00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:50.200
<v Speaker 2>seems to be totally like if it is trauma, and

535
00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:52.920
<v Speaker 2>if it is these repressed you know memories or not

536
00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:55.519
<v Speaker 2>repressed memories, but you know, stuff like that that she

537
00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:58.440
<v Speaker 2>can't even think about or talk about or whatever, she

538
00:23:58.599 --> 00:24:01.599
<v Speaker 2>is putting lives in danger. And that's not how this works.

539
00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:05.279
<v Speaker 2>If you undergo something like that, you want to be

540
00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:07.799
<v Speaker 2>able to fix it. The whole idea in the first one,

541
00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Hutcherson's Mike loses his brother, and the whole idea is

542
00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:17.440
<v Speaker 2>him trying to fix it. He doesn't want to see

543
00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:20.880
<v Speaker 2>who took his brother. He wants to fix it. He

544
00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:23.799
<v Speaker 2>wants to go back and fix it right and and

545
00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:27.200
<v Speaker 2>he has the opportunity now with his sister to you know,

546
00:24:27.319 --> 00:24:30.119
<v Speaker 2>make sure that that she's healthy, and he doesn't give

547
00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:33.200
<v Speaker 2>it now. He makes that mistake briefly in the first one. Right,

548
00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:37.160
<v Speaker 2>but but the but, but this whole aspect of all

549
00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:39.920
<v Speaker 2>this this I can't even imagine the horrific childhood that

550
00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Vanessa went through knowing that her father, like did she

551
00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:47.680
<v Speaker 2>know that he was a serial killer? Growing up I

552
00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:52.559
<v Speaker 2>think she did, yeah, and and and something like that.

553
00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:54.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it was an awful childhood, but at that

554
00:24:54.759 --> 00:24:56.759
<v Speaker 2>same time, like you, you got to be able to

555
00:24:56.799 --> 00:24:59.839
<v Speaker 2>understand you are an adult. Now, these are kids that

556
00:24:59.880 --> 00:25:02.720
<v Speaker 2>you you can protect. And I'm going off on this

557
00:25:02.759 --> 00:25:04.400
<v Speaker 2>and it's a stupid thing to go off. No, No,

558
00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:05.720
<v Speaker 2>I was annoyed by it.

559
00:25:05.799 --> 00:25:07.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm biting my tongue and letting you rant because I'm

560
00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:08.680
<v Speaker 1>glad you made By the.

561
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<v Speaker 2>Way, by the way, I don't I don't fault Vanessa

562
00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:14.079
<v Speaker 2>the character. I fault those screenwriters.

563
00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so that's what. I'm glad you took it there

564
00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:18.359
<v Speaker 1>because I was gonna bring this up, and I'm glad

565
00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:22.119
<v Speaker 1>organically you kind of felt the same way. Here have

566
00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:24.799
<v Speaker 1>we evolved? And by we, I don't mean you and

567
00:25:24.839 --> 00:25:30.119
<v Speaker 1>I I mean movie watchers because the trope of stupid

568
00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:33.680
<v Speaker 1>contrivances and horror movies is so well done that Geico

569
00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:37.720
<v Speaker 1>commercials have people hiding behind the chainsaws right go to

570
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the cemetery, like while they're being chased by the thing.

571
00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Have we gotten to a point? Because I would argue,

572
00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:46.400
<v Speaker 1>in the last ten years, horror has become much smarter,

573
00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:49.799
<v Speaker 1>much more well written. A lot of times I find myself.

574
00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:52.039
<v Speaker 1>I was watching until dawn and I was like, oh, well,

575
00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:53.799
<v Speaker 1>I would just hide in the bathroom until the sun

576
00:25:53.880 --> 00:25:55.559
<v Speaker 1>came up. In twenty minutes in they're like, let's just

577
00:25:55.640 --> 00:25:58.279
<v Speaker 1>hide in the bathroom till the sun comes up. I'm like, okay.

578
00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:00.839
<v Speaker 1>And then they show you why that doesn't work. And

579
00:26:01.039 --> 00:26:04.119
<v Speaker 1>old movies wouldn't do that. They'd be like, the killer

580
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>comes in, let's run up the steps. Well, there's no

581
00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:08.720
<v Speaker 1>way to escape. You never questioned it because it's a

582
00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:11.240
<v Speaker 1>horror movie. They're teenagers. They do the dumb thing. They're

583
00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:13.680
<v Speaker 1>always gonna do the dumb thing. And we've kind of

584
00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:17.359
<v Speaker 1>evolved as movie writers as movie watchers to the point

585
00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>where now when you see those heavy contrivances, when you

586
00:26:20.519 --> 00:26:23.640
<v Speaker 1>see plot information just withheld for no reason other than

587
00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:26.680
<v Speaker 1>withholding it, it sticks out a lot more than it

588
00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:29.440
<v Speaker 1>used to and it's much more distracting than it used

589
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:31.279
<v Speaker 1>to be in my opinion, Or am I just old

590
00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:31.839
<v Speaker 1>and cynical?

591
00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:34.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, no, one hundred percent. And the audiences

592
00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:37.480
<v Speaker 2>have changed. Expect We bring this up all the time.

593
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:43.039
<v Speaker 2>Expectations have changed. Movie watching is different. We used to

594
00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:48.119
<v Speaker 2>go to the theater to escape our lives for two

595
00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:50.480
<v Speaker 2>hours or whatever, an hour and a half, right, and

596
00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:54.319
<v Speaker 2>let things happen to us passively. That's how That's how

597
00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:59.079
<v Speaker 2>movies were seventies, eighties, nineties really too. Now with the

598
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:02.039
<v Speaker 2>explosion of the inner, with the explosion of all these

599
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:05.319
<v Speaker 2>other people that we can immediately we can share our

600
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:10.039
<v Speaker 2>experiences with right of watching all these movies, we are

601
00:27:10.119 --> 00:27:15.000
<v Speaker 2>actively watching stuff. There's no passive We are actively watching things.

602
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Stuff is not happening to us. We're trying to figure

603
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:21.279
<v Speaker 2>out who the killer is. We're trying to figure out

604
00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:26.519
<v Speaker 2>why this scene was shot this way, why why this

605
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:28.839
<v Speaker 2>was shown in the way it was, why something was

606
00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:32.599
<v Speaker 2>not shown, what was said, what wasn't said. So we're

607
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:35.880
<v Speaker 2>constantly and this is not true for everybody. I think

608
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:39.079
<v Speaker 2>there's plenty of casual moviegers that do not watch movies

609
00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:42.559
<v Speaker 2>this way. But I think trying to get people to

610
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:45.519
<v Speaker 2>the theater, trying to give them something new, you're giving

611
00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:48.559
<v Speaker 2>them a new experience because we watch movies differently than

612
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.319
<v Speaker 2>we television shows too. We watch it differently. Now you

613
00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:55.400
<v Speaker 2>can go full you know, maybe a little bit. And

614
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:57.880
<v Speaker 2>this is maybe not a good example to prove my point,

615
00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:01.160
<v Speaker 2>but like Lost right, that television show. I was trying

616
00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:03.599
<v Speaker 2>to explain it to my kids the other day. I'm like, oh, yeah,

617
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.799
<v Speaker 2>there's polar bears and a plane crash and then there's

618
00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:09.880
<v Speaker 2>a time jump, and like and I'm saying it out loud,

619
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:11.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, who would ever watch this show?

620
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:11.599
<v Speaker 1>Right?

621
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:15.559
<v Speaker 2>Because they went full bore and into like really challenging

622
00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:19.759
<v Speaker 2>you to pick up every idiosyncrasy on that where you

623
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:22.599
<v Speaker 2>don't know what's going on. But you can't be so

624
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:26.839
<v Speaker 2>lazy to just leave a trail of breadcrumbs that's so

625
00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:27.440
<v Speaker 2>easily founcked.

626
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<v Speaker 1>That's not a fun watch exactly. That's actually what George R. R.

627
00:28:31.119 --> 00:28:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Martin is running into finishing his books. Yeah, he said

628
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>you can't. You can't. He that I've been writing for

629
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty years towards the eventual outcome that the Butler did it.

630
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>But because I have this new large audience now, a

631
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:43.559
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are saying, hey, I think the Butler

632
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:47.200
<v Speaker 1>did it. He's trying to now circumvent what everybody else

633
00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:49.160
<v Speaker 1>is thinking, which is ultimately going to end up being

634
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:51.000
<v Speaker 1>a worse product now because it's going to be a

635
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:54.000
<v Speaker 1>little bit more contrived. It's exactly what you're describing, and

636
00:28:54.039 --> 00:28:57.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm a very big believer Bulky that you can have

637
00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:02.359
<v Speaker 1>it both ways, Like if this movie had been better, Yeah,

638
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:05.759
<v Speaker 1>there is a place in the world for a simple

639
00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>popcorn flick in twenty twenty five. Still, I think there

640
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:12.319
<v Speaker 1>were other people that would absolutely be happy to passively

641
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:14.559
<v Speaker 1>watch something that's not gonna make you think. There's not

642
00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:17.960
<v Speaker 1>going to be any messaging. My go to my quintessential.

643
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:20.359
<v Speaker 1>No matter how many times I watch it, I cannot

644
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:23.119
<v Speaker 1>find a message in this movie. Movie is face off.

645
00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:27.480
<v Speaker 1>It's just fun for two hours and then it's over

646
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:30.079
<v Speaker 1>and there's nothing for you to think about. There's no

647
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>greater message, there's no like, oh you know at the

648
00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:35.519
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, the energy was in yourself. Like no,

649
00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:39.319
<v Speaker 1>it's just a fun movie. And very rarely it's like

650
00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:42.359
<v Speaker 1>people almost don't even want that anymore, like because they

651
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:45.519
<v Speaker 1>can't process it the same way, but like it can

652
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:48.359
<v Speaker 1>exist and it's just not out there anymore. It's like

653
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:51.119
<v Speaker 1>you said, it's a much more active process now, and

654
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:54.079
<v Speaker 1>that's fine. I mean, like I'm not complaining. I love

655
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:55.119
<v Speaker 1>active walking.

656
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:59.240
<v Speaker 2>Expendables yeas a perfect example. Yes, yeah, we're like, yeah,

657
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:00.720
<v Speaker 2>we gotta rescue this guy I'm going to kill a

658
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:03.279
<v Speaker 2>lot of people to do it. Yeah, sign me up. Yeah,

659
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.480
<v Speaker 2>face off. Hey, what if we actually could like take

660
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:11.359
<v Speaker 2>a villain's body and put him in a hero It's

661
00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:15.480
<v Speaker 2>so it's so nonsensical, right, But what if? What if

662
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.759
<v Speaker 2>we made a movie about breaking into Alcatraz? Yes, and

663
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:19.799
<v Speaker 2>stopping Terrist?

664
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<v Speaker 1>There?

665
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:24.359
<v Speaker 2>What if? What if criminals being transported by plane took

666
00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:25.119
<v Speaker 2>over the plane?

667
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>But see, here's the thing. Here's the thing. Though the

668
00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:32.480
<v Speaker 1>rock was about the prison system. It was about how

669
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<v Speaker 1>we treat vets after they return con Air. You really

670
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:37.839
<v Speaker 1>want me to get me started? I promise I won't

671
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:38.559
<v Speaker 1>dive into.

672
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:40.599
<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing, here's the thing that that was just

673
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:44.079
<v Speaker 2>that was shrapnel. What you're describing was just shrapnel. In

674
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:45.519
<v Speaker 2>these movies, they weren't about here's.

675
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>The thing, here's the thing. You ready for this, I'm

676
00:30:46.440 --> 00:30:48.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna blow your freaking mind. And if you want, I'll go.

677
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you more off the arcause I don't want

678
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:51.480
<v Speaker 1>to take it too far unless you want to go there.

679
00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Con Air is right wing propaganda. It is it is

680
00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:57.799
<v Speaker 1>designed to get you empathizing with a certain type of

681
00:30:57.799 --> 00:30:59.960
<v Speaker 1>person in this country. And like as soon as you

682
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>look at it through that lens. You're like Son of

683
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:04.279
<v Speaker 1>a Bitch. Still one of my favorite movies of all time.

684
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely love the movie. But it's propaganda and it's disguised

685
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>as a well made action movie. I have watched Face

686
00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Off a million times. There is no shrapnel exercise here.

687
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>There is just fun for two hours, Okay, Nick Cage

688
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:22.279
<v Speaker 1>doing drugs and being goofy for two hours to.

689
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.880
<v Speaker 2>To kind of let the listeners know I am not

690
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:29.839
<v Speaker 2>as cynical as you are. Yeah, these messages, yes, I

691
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:35.640
<v Speaker 2>understand they exist. Okay, but to me, that was just happenstance.

692
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:36.960
<v Speaker 2>That just happened to be a part.

693
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Of the movie.

694
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:39.440
<v Speaker 2>That was not the movie. That's not it was not

695
00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:40.519
<v Speaker 2>a commentary on that.

696
00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:44.000
<v Speaker 1>We'll talk conn Air after this episode.

697
00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:46.200
<v Speaker 2>You can't. We should do conn Air, We should do

698
00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:49.799
<v Speaker 2>conn a podcast. Any excuse to rewatch that one? I

699
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:53.759
<v Speaker 2>could get behind it. Anyway. What was I getting back to? Okay,

700
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:57.680
<v Speaker 2>popcorn movie? Yes, okay, here's what I was gonna say there.

701
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:01.640
<v Speaker 2>That's fine, and people will see those movies. Yeah, don't

702
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:05.480
<v Speaker 2>pretend to be something else. If that's what's and five

703
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Nights at Freddie's two pretended to be something else, like

704
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:11.880
<v Speaker 2>throughout the last forty five minutes of it or whatever.

705
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:15.039
<v Speaker 1>That's such a good I didn't make that jump. And

706
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.240
<v Speaker 1>now that I'm hearing you say it, that's exactly what

707
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>I didn't like about it.

708
00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:21.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm trying to take a good example of this.

709
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Woolly's Wonder World didn't pretend to be something it wasn't.

710
00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:28.759
<v Speaker 1>It was like, this is ridiculous. Watch us get ridiculous

711
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:31.119
<v Speaker 1>school project. Take it back to when you're in school.

712
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:33.920
<v Speaker 1>This is five nights at Freddie's too. This is my analogy.

713
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:35.720
<v Speaker 1>You get this big project.

714
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.400
<v Speaker 2>You're excited to work on it, like a report or

715
00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:41.200
<v Speaker 2>maybe a piece of art or some sort of you know, diorama,

716
00:32:41.720 --> 00:32:45.599
<v Speaker 2>maybe a robot like sure Science Fair or whatever. Yeah,

717
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:49.200
<v Speaker 2>you're excited to do this. You're very excited, and you

718
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:51.480
<v Speaker 2>want to make sure you do it right. You want

719
00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:53.640
<v Speaker 2>to make sure you get every little thing right. So

720
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:57.160
<v Speaker 2>you're very meticulous about putting certain things in places right

721
00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:00.960
<v Speaker 2>and getting it right, and knowing that this is gonna

722
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:02.599
<v Speaker 2>be a long time, but it's gonna be worth it

723
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:05.079
<v Speaker 2>at the end because how hard you work. Yeah, and

724
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.079
<v Speaker 2>then you're all of a sudden that deadline is creeping

725
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:09.920
<v Speaker 2>up on you, right, and you're like, God, I can't,

726
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I can't. I can't do this the way I wanted to.

727
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:16.319
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm gonna start making some some changes and it's

728
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:19.039
<v Speaker 2>not gonna be perfect. And and then you're like, you're

729
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:21.200
<v Speaker 2>right up against the deadline and like, well, now this

730
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:24.160
<v Speaker 2>has just turned into gobbledegook. I just got to get

731
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:26.960
<v Speaker 2>it done at this point. That's what this storyline felt

732
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:29.599
<v Speaker 2>like to me. It was just they threw this stuff

733
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:32.079
<v Speaker 2>in at the end, this hand of God crap, which

734
00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:34.839
<v Speaker 2>I hate, and it was it was lazy, you know,

735
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:37.119
<v Speaker 2>you you and I don't know what it is, like,

736
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:39.720
<v Speaker 2>I think I brought this up before. I just don't

737
00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:41.880
<v Speaker 2>like we're like this all of a sudden, you know,

738
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:45.359
<v Speaker 2>the claw reaches down and puts something in right at

739
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:48.640
<v Speaker 2>the end of the movie, where where it seems totally

740
00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:51.519
<v Speaker 2>out of place, it seems lazy, and this is all

741
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:54.119
<v Speaker 2>stuff that that should have been, like you said, should

742
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:56.519
<v Speaker 2>have been revealed earlier, and it's and it's revealed later

743
00:33:56.559 --> 00:33:59.640
<v Speaker 2>and it kind of changes, it kind of bastardizes the

744
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:02.400
<v Speaker 2>whole for me. I just I hate that. Yeah, that's

745
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:05.160
<v Speaker 2>what this movie was to me. It's pretending to be

746
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:09.039
<v Speaker 2>more of a epic is too strong of a word.

747
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:12.360
<v Speaker 1>If you were fourteen, do you think you would have

748
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:14.920
<v Speaker 1>viewed it more like what? Yeah, I was a lot

749
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:18.039
<v Speaker 1>less that's fundamentally who this is for. Well, I was

750
00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:20.119
<v Speaker 1>a lot less cynical when I was fourteen. Yeah, So

751
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:22.400
<v Speaker 1>if I'm watching this as a fourteen year old, I'm like, oh,

752
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:24.519
<v Speaker 1>this is crazy, But I haven't been exposed to a

753
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>bunch of other great movies that were written properly. Yeah,

754
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:29.679
<v Speaker 1>But to put it in perspective.

755
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 2>I just think like, you could have make it. You

756
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:33.519
<v Speaker 2>could have made this movie for a fourteen year old

757
00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:35.480
<v Speaker 2>and a forty four year old, and you could have

758
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:39.760
<v Speaker 2>done it right where both both demographics could have enjoyed it.

759
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I am one hundred percent in agreement with you. Here's

760
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:44.360
<v Speaker 1>what they're running into. And I'm not saying this is

761
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:47.559
<v Speaker 1>an insurmountable hurdle because other people have pulled this off.

762
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:52.119
<v Speaker 1>But do you remember when they made a battleship movie, Yeah,

763
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:56.039
<v Speaker 1>Leila Kitch, Yes, and it's yeah Liam Neeson and the

764
00:34:57.559 --> 00:35:00.039
<v Speaker 1>it's literally about the board game. But other than the

765
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:03.199
<v Speaker 1>name of the movie, it really has nothing to do

766
00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:06.360
<v Speaker 1>with the concept of battleship it's important to recognize. I'm

767
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:08.400
<v Speaker 1>sure a lot of people listening here have not played

768
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Five Nights at Freddy. The actual plot to the game,

769
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:13.679
<v Speaker 1>like what we are operating with.

770
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:15.559
<v Speaker 2>Which we're like an hour in. We haven't explained this.

771
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:20.440
<v Speaker 1>You're watching cameras for ten minutes and all the machines

772
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:23.119
<v Speaker 1>start off on the stage, but then when you're not

773
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:25.199
<v Speaker 1>looking at that camera, you go back and they're not

774
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:28.440
<v Speaker 1>there anymore. And your objective is to make sure that

775
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:31.719
<v Speaker 1>they do not get to the room that you are in, right,

776
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:33.519
<v Speaker 1>and they still they get closer in as long as

777
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:35.599
<v Speaker 1>you keep checking all the cameras and flicking all the

778
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:37.880
<v Speaker 1>light switches and keep your eye on everything, it won't

779
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:41.039
<v Speaker 1>get you. And it all culminates in a giant jump scare.

780
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:46.880
<v Speaker 1>That's the entire game. That is the entire game. Relatively,

781
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:49.039
<v Speaker 1>no low I'm not gonna say none, because if any

782
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Five Nights at Freddie fans do come across this, there

783
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:54.039
<v Speaker 1>is lore. But it is much like this. It is

784
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:57.159
<v Speaker 1>just like, hey, quick throw three lines of dialogue that

785
00:35:57.199 --> 00:35:59.679
<v Speaker 1>are vague enough to keep people guessing about where it's

786
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna be from here, And the director decided instead of

787
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:05.880
<v Speaker 1>taking that ambiguity, because you could have made this movie

788
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:08.239
<v Speaker 1>just as ambiguous as the game and it would have

789
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:10.320
<v Speaker 1>been fine. I think in a lot of people's eyes,

790
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:14.440
<v Speaker 1>they decided, let's explain everything. I compared it on your

791
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:18.239
<v Speaker 1>radio show to Alien Covenant. I never cared where the

792
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Xeno Morphs came from. I did not need to see

793
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:25.239
<v Speaker 1>a backstory for forty five minutes of all with Actually

794
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>the scariness of the Aliens comes from not really understanding

795
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:33.440
<v Speaker 1>where they come from. And this movie decided, actually, we're

796
00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:36.320
<v Speaker 1>going to explain some of it, leave some of this

797
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:39.559
<v Speaker 1>up in the air for a potential sequel, but by

798
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and large, we're gonna take a lot of the mystery

799
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:43.800
<v Speaker 1>out of it. And it's in a ham fisted way

800
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:46.039
<v Speaker 1>that felt like it was written by someone that, as

801
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:48.599
<v Speaker 1>you highlighted, maybe was a little rushed towards the end

802
00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:49.360
<v Speaker 1>of production. Here.

803
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:53.039
<v Speaker 2>Ah, I'll say this conversely, I got a little confused.

804
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd agree.

805
00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:58.199
<v Speaker 2>The spirits and the robots, Yeah, mixing them up, not

806
00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:01.320
<v Speaker 2>sure who's good was the one?

807
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:03.800
<v Speaker 1>What was the one they saw? Or we couldn't keep

808
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:06.679
<v Speaker 1>everybody straight where they all jumped into different bodies.

809
00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's what's inside.

810
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:11.079
<v Speaker 1>So what's inside. It was very reminisce of okay, wait

811
00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:12.039
<v Speaker 1>a minute, yeah.

812
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Only now with animatronics. It's like, oh god, I can't.

813
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:17.440
<v Speaker 2>And then the new one was the old one, but

814
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:19.519
<v Speaker 2>the old one neverga you know, because they had like

815
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:24.400
<v Speaker 2>this this the five nights, so the way that they

816
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:26.360
<v Speaker 2>set up the second one, apparently there was another five

817
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:31.039
<v Speaker 2>Freddy fas bears, so whatever, and and that one closed

818
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:35.199
<v Speaker 2>you'll find out why. And then a new one like, yeah,

819
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:37.480
<v Speaker 2>the one we watched in the first one was actually

820
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:40.360
<v Speaker 2>the new one. Yeah, okay, I see that. And then

821
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:44.000
<v Speaker 2>and is that a metaphor for the first I can't know.

822
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:44.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

823
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I was Is that what they were going for? Because

824
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>the first one was not well received? This one is,

825
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:51.599
<v Speaker 1>despite our reaction, more well received.

826
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Why is that?

827
00:37:53.039 --> 00:37:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know, honestly, but the people

828
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:59.280
<v Speaker 1>that the faithful seem to appreciate this one a lot more.

829
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:06.880
<v Speaker 2>It's just to see a panned movie critically and by audiences. Yeah,

830
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:09.039
<v Speaker 2>and then somehow they get funding to make a sequel,

831
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:12.440
<v Speaker 2>and the sequel not only does better, but people are

832
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:14.800
<v Speaker 2>loving to go see this one, right. That's I mean

833
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:18.199
<v Speaker 2>what I get it? If the sequel was better than

834
00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:21.719
<v Speaker 2>the original, But don't you have doesn't the original have

835
00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:23.920
<v Speaker 2>to be really good in order to get a sequel?

836
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Right, dude? This might be six seven the movie, you

837
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:29.679
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Like, maybe we just don't get it. Yeah,

838
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:32.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's just after our time in a way.

839
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:34.719
<v Speaker 2>That was the marketing different for this one?

840
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:38.119
<v Speaker 1>No, No, I'd argue there was much more marketing for

841
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:40.119
<v Speaker 1>the first one. Yeah, that I had, Like, I was

842
00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:42.239
<v Speaker 1>actually excited about the first one. Have you not played

843
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:44.559
<v Speaker 1>the games? Like, you know, people say these are really

844
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:46.920
<v Speaker 1>scary games. I can't wait to check this out. And

845
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:49.480
<v Speaker 1>forty five minutes in, I still haven't seen an animatronic.

846
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what, what the hell is this?

847
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:54.440
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of exposition, and.

848
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what am I signing up for right now? Where

849
00:38:57.039 --> 00:38:58.800
<v Speaker 1>is this? It at least got into it a little

850
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:00.760
<v Speaker 1>bit more here and again if I were a fan

851
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:02.760
<v Speaker 1>of it, like, I'll be real. I did watch the

852
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:05.960
<v Speaker 1>animated Super Mario movie when it went to Netflix. I

853
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, you know this was reviewed, well, I love

854
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:12.320
<v Speaker 1>the Mario brothers. Let's check this out. In every seven seconds,

855
00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:15.320
<v Speaker 1>there was a callback to anybody who grew up playing

856
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:18.039
<v Speaker 1>the original Nintendo and I was like, man, I know

857
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>this movie sucks. You'll never convince me. There was even

858
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:23.199
<v Speaker 1>a script. People just showed up to work said what

859
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:25.400
<v Speaker 1>are we doing today? And there's part of me, in

860
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:28.280
<v Speaker 1>the basest form of my being. It's just like, ah,

861
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:30.800
<v Speaker 1>this is a pleasant experience and I don't know why.

862
00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:34.880
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like there's people there's nostalgia, right, and

863
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I think that I'm intelligent enough to acknowledge it, but

864
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:40.960
<v Speaker 1>at the same time not intelligent enough to escape it.

865
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:44.159
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like maybe there's a little bit because

866
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:46.840
<v Speaker 1>this is I don't know if you honestly understand how

867
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:49.719
<v Speaker 1>big of a phenomenon Five Nights Freddy's really is. I don't.

868
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know it's huge, like it's huge, like

869
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:55.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's just it's much like the Minecraft movie, which

870
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:59.760
<v Speaker 1>is after our time, and there's tens of millions of

871
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:03.159
<v Speaker 1>people people didn't know the characters and want to see

872
00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:05.760
<v Speaker 1>x Y and z app and probably loved the little

873
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Easter eggs that went right over all our.

874
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Heads for sure throughout this and where we're because we're

875
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:12.199
<v Speaker 2>just we don't have the experience of playing the game,

876
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:15.039
<v Speaker 2>so we're just focused on the actual story, right, and

877
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:15.960
<v Speaker 2>how it's being told.

878
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:18.079
<v Speaker 1>Whereas I'm watching the Mario movie and I hear the

879
00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:20.679
<v Speaker 1>duck Hunt sound effect, I'm like, oh, triggered something like

880
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:22.519
<v Speaker 1>I just felt that in the back of my brain

881
00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:24.480
<v Speaker 1>as soon as I heard the sound effect in a

882
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:27.039
<v Speaker 1>way that this movie's never Even if I had played

883
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>the Games, I would have played them as a mid

884
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:30.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty something based on when they came out.

885
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:33.559
<v Speaker 2>Do you know I believe they are making a live

886
00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:37.920
<v Speaker 2>action Adventures of Zelda? Yeah they are? Yes, Okay, all right,

887
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:41.199
<v Speaker 2>I didn't see. I saw who's got cast as Zelda

888
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:42.880
<v Speaker 2>and Lincoln. Yeah, and I never heard of either one

889
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:44.159
<v Speaker 2>of my probably British acts.

890
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:46.360
<v Speaker 1>And again, you want to talk about bare bones plot,

891
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Guy saves girl from giant pig looking monster. That's the

892
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:54.280
<v Speaker 1>entire plot of like seventeen games. I know, yeah, well,

893
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:56.159
<v Speaker 1>how they're gonna do that kind of stuff there, But

894
00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:57.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll see how they end up doing it.

895
00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:00.199
<v Speaker 1>But like I'm trying to give this movie will be

896
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:02.119
<v Speaker 1>the benefit of the doubt, Like if you're listening and

897
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:05.079
<v Speaker 1>you have any connection at all, maybe it'll hit harder. Yeah,

898
00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to go in as a fan of horror and not

899
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:09.679
<v Speaker 1>necessarily five nights at Freddy's PG.

900
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Thirteen.

901
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not good, not not impressed really in any kind

902
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:17.360
<v Speaker 1>of way. And I've never played Until Dawn, But Until

903
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Dawn R rated very fun movie, you know, like you

904
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:23.800
<v Speaker 1>can do it right. Even the resident Evils that I've

905
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:26.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of crept on. There are moments where I'm like,

906
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:28.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is stupid, but this is fun. Yeah,

907
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:30.639
<v Speaker 1>and that I did not get that feeling at any

908
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:31.880
<v Speaker 1>point during this movie.

909
00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:33.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why I did this. And this is

910
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:36.079
<v Speaker 2>a little off topic, but that's the first show. Yeah,

911
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I told him, told you about my kid having nightmares. Yeah,

912
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:43.239
<v Speaker 2>so he went and slept in my bed. Okay, and

913
00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't say my bed. So my wife and I

914
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:48.920
<v Speaker 2>have been sleep divorced for years, sure, because I got

915
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:51.760
<v Speaker 2>a cepap and she can't sleep. So I sleep in

916
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:55.119
<v Speaker 2>the basement and my wife sleeps in our bed, which

917
00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:57.119
<v Speaker 2>when she goes out of town, I sleep on that

918
00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:00.400
<v Speaker 2>bed because they kids want me up there to get.

919
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:02.400
<v Speaker 2>I sleep so much better on it. I gotta get

920
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:04.039
<v Speaker 2>I gotta lose weight and get back into that bed

921
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:08.119
<v Speaker 2>because it's so much better. Anyway, So he wants me upstairs.

922
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:10.639
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't want me going downstairs, right, yeah, and and

923
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:12.559
<v Speaker 2>so so I'm like fine, So I went in his

924
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:14.800
<v Speaker 2>room and I was just gonna stay there till he

925
00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:17.519
<v Speaker 2>fell asleep. And and this is at like midnight, eleven

926
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:21.880
<v Speaker 2>thirty and uh, I throw on Netflix on my phone.

927
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:25.480
<v Speaker 2>G I Joe Retaliation was on. Oh sure, okay, yeah,

928
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:28.559
<v Speaker 2>And I watched that the whole thing. Yeah, could not

929
00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:31.679
<v Speaker 2>turn it off. Not a great movie. No love watching it.

930
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, me too.

931
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:34.440
<v Speaker 2>There are so many good scenes in that. But like

932
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:37.199
<v Speaker 2>it is, it is hokey, it is stupid. Nobody is

933
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:39.320
<v Speaker 2>at the peak of their powers in this movie, you know,

934
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:44.000
<v Speaker 2>at all. And and and it's just this fun, schlocky

935
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:47.480
<v Speaker 2>thing where hey, Hasbro's gonna give us a gajillion dollars

936
00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:49.559
<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna make this movie.

937
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:52.199
<v Speaker 1>And it pays off on the president being a doppel ganger,

938
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:54.559
<v Speaker 1>like they didn't need to follow up on that storyline,

939
00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:56.719
<v Speaker 1>and they did, and I was just like, good, yeah, good.

940
00:42:56.760 --> 00:42:58.519
<v Speaker 2>This is the only thing that was bad. Was gonna

941
00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:02.559
<v Speaker 2>get Joseph Gordon Levitt as as Yeah, which, by the way,

942
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:08.199
<v Speaker 2>he oh dude, you got to look up him on Wikipedia.

943
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:11.920
<v Speaker 2>I gotta think about this for a second. He was

944
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:14.000
<v Speaker 2>he was a voice. I'm gonna look it up. I'm

945
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:15.679
<v Speaker 2>gonna look up because I know what I'm looking for here.

946
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:18.039
<v Speaker 2>This could have been a movie that we just watched

947
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:19.599
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, oh my god, he was in this

948
00:43:19.719 --> 00:43:20.239
<v Speaker 2>and it was a.

949
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Voice I'll talk while you look at it. Do that

950
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.360
<v Speaker 1>and it's uh. But that goes to show you, though,

951
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:27.760
<v Speaker 1>is that G I Joe for you? And to a

952
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:31.119
<v Speaker 1>certain extent my generation is what five Nights that Freddy

953
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:34.000
<v Speaker 1>is for a different group? Like would we feel the

954
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:36.639
<v Speaker 1>same way about G I Joe Retaliation if we didn't

955
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:39.519
<v Speaker 1>know G I Joe from the PSAs? Right, It's like

956
00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:43.639
<v Speaker 1>g I Joe? Like if if hearing that doesn't resonate

957
00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:46.559
<v Speaker 1>with you, maybe the movies might not resonate nate you

958
00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:49.679
<v Speaker 1>with it as well either, because that that that movie

959
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:51.000
<v Speaker 1>had some shortcomings. What do you got?

960
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Uh? He was voice actor only in the New Knives

961
00:43:57.320 --> 00:43:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Out movie?

962
00:43:58.599 --> 00:43:59.199
<v Speaker 1>Who's that? Joe?

963
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Joseph Gordon not in the movie, but he has a

964
00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:07.280
<v Speaker 2>voice cameo. He's not himself, he's playing somebody else. But

965
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:09.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, where did I just see that? Which, by

966
00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:10.480
<v Speaker 2>the way, what are we doing with that? Are we

967
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:12.000
<v Speaker 2>going to do a podcast on that one? Or are we

968
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:12.400
<v Speaker 2>just going to.

969
00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Say, well, I thought that's what we decided.

970
00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:15.800
<v Speaker 2>We're doing well the next one, Yeah, okay, perfect, because

971
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:18.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna watch the first two, okay and compare it

972
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:21.159
<v Speaker 2>because commission's asking me, He's like, oh, how was the

973
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:23.400
<v Speaker 2>third one? Like, I never saw the first two, so

974
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:25.639
<v Speaker 2>I can't really compare it, and I saw the third

975
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:28.719
<v Speaker 2>one first. So anyway, back to five nights at frames.

976
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:30.760
<v Speaker 1>We'll get into that tomorrow next week.

977
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:31.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I have anything else.

978
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:34.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I think I'm tapped out on this one here.

979
00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Don't see it. Wait for it to be free.

980
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean six is what I was gonna give it.

981
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:42.840
<v Speaker 2>And if too aggressive, yeah yeah, I mean.

982
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say three and a half.

983
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:46.679
<v Speaker 2>Well not that long. Maybe I can drop it down

984
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:48.960
<v Speaker 2>to five and a half. Not I can't do five.

985
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:52.119
<v Speaker 2>Five is too bad? Yeah, I do five and a half.

986
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:55.719
<v Speaker 2>For the effort. Yeah, they tried to make a good movie.

987
00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:58.880
<v Speaker 2>It had some elements, right, sure, you know, it's just.

988
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's some fans service like that. I don't think

989
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:02.840
<v Speaker 1>that can.

990
00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I think people who played the game will probably get

991
00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:08.039
<v Speaker 2>more give it, definitely give it a higher grade than

992
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:10.679
<v Speaker 2>I am. Yeah, I think you're probably right. And again

993
00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:13.800
<v Speaker 2>it's just like I always say about rating comic book movies,

994
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:15.360
<v Speaker 2>like you have to take into effect the fact that

995
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:17.239
<v Speaker 2>you and I has grown ass men like it is

996
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:20.880
<v Speaker 2>a happy buy product. It is not necessarily the guarantee

997
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:24.280
<v Speaker 2>it is for fourteen year olds. Yeah, outside of maybe Batman,

998
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:26.800
<v Speaker 2>it's for fourteen year olds by and large, and the

999
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:29.599
<v Speaker 2>fact that we get entertainment from it is just nice.

1000
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:31.719
<v Speaker 2>Same thing here, you can make the arguments for a

1001
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:33.079
<v Speaker 2>younger than fourteen year olds.

1002
00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to a certain extent. It depends because, like you know,

1003
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:39.159
<v Speaker 1>Winter Soldier, it's like a spy thriller with government. It

1004
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:41.199
<v Speaker 1>depends on which one, but Spider Man. I feel like

1005
00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:44.360
<v Speaker 1>a grandfather watching Like for the demograph.

1006
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, you know, we're just talking about wonder Man.

1007
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:47.639
<v Speaker 2>I think when that comes out, that's totally gonna be

1008
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:53.440
<v Speaker 2>sugary bubblegummy, you know, yeah, meant for you know, younger demographic.

1009
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:55.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't think we're gonna get you think. So I

1010
00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:57.320
<v Speaker 2>don't know enough about wonder Man, do you know what

1011
00:45:57.320 --> 00:45:59.760
<v Speaker 2>with the plot is? No, so I can't remember his

1012
00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:04.679
<v Speaker 2>name and I'll butcher it. He was black Manta, Yeah,

1013
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:09.639
<v Speaker 2>he was doctor Manhattan. In the Watchman television show on HBO. Okay, okay,

1014
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:14.440
<v Speaker 2>he plays a stunt actor like he's a in l

1015
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:19.800
<v Speaker 2>a right. Sure, but he gets superpowers okay somehow, and

1016
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:22.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how he gets them. And his brother,

1017
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:26.079
<v Speaker 2>I think is the villain. And his brother also gets superpowers,

1018
00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:29.159
<v Speaker 2>but he is bad, like he turns out to be.

1019
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:31.280
<v Speaker 2>So I think it's brother versus brother, and they're both

1020
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:34.559
<v Speaker 2>these you know, this guy was just a Hollywood stunt

1021
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:37.039
<v Speaker 2>actor that all of a sudden was was blessed with

1022
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:37.519
<v Speaker 2>you know.

1023
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Ah yeah, abdul Mantine the second there you go, that's it,

1024
00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:44.800
<v Speaker 1>and he was I probably butchered it. And I'm reading it.

1025
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:46.119
<v Speaker 2>I want to say he was in the.

1026
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Ed Harris is in this movie.

1027
00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:49.679
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that or show.

1028
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't know that.

1029
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Ben Kingsley obviously is Yeah what were candy Man? Were

1030
00:46:57.360 --> 00:46:58.039
<v Speaker 2>we talking about?

1031
00:46:58.119 --> 00:46:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

1032
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:01.239
<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah, the reboot? I think were talking about it.

1033
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:03.440
<v Speaker 2>He I think he was the star. Yeah yeah, And

1034
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:05.519
<v Speaker 2>I think he's a really talented actor. It's weird some

1035
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:07.599
<v Speaker 2>of the some of the jobs he gets. I feel

1036
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:09.840
<v Speaker 2>like he should be doing more serious, you know, stuff

1037
00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:12.000
<v Speaker 2>like like kind of not to be racist, but kind

1038
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:14.239
<v Speaker 2>of what Jonathan Major's was getting right, Yeah, you know,

1039
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:17.519
<v Speaker 2>like with love love Crafts whatever it is called.

1040
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Lovecraft Country was great, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel like he should be doing more serious stuff, like

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<v Speaker 2>because I think he's a really good actor and I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's classically trained too, And then he's doing stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like wonder Man, which is fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I don't see any reason. I like, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be interested to see how they end up playing this

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<v Speaker 1>out here, but yeah, you could be right. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you're wrong, because I do enjoy the more mature stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But based on this, watch the trailer. Watch the trailer

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<v Speaker 1>because it's it's just I will.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the Benny Hill theme should be playing.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen the trailer, but but just to leave

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<v Speaker 1>it on a positive note here, given what you said,

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<v Speaker 1>since we're doing a horror thing, go watch the Candyman remake.

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<v Speaker 1>If you haven't seen that, that that'd be more worth

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<v Speaker 1>your time than watching Five.

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<v Speaker 2>Nights unless you played the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm unless you played the.

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<v Speaker 2>Game that this would probably be a better But.

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<v Speaker 1>I can say Candy Man remake even if you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>the original. If you ask me which one would you prefer,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say give me both of them, I'd say very rarely.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you say like, they're both fantastic in different ways?

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<v Speaker 1>And I can say that, So take that with you

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<v Speaker 1>on your way out the door, because I sure as

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<v Speaker 1>hell can't recommend this. What's it called next week? Wake

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<v Speaker 1>Up dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, Knives Out Wake Up dead Man?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is what we're gonna be doing, Netflix exclusive, although

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<v Speaker 1>it has been out in theaters hence why you're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of talking about it already, but yeah, I'm gonna catch

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<v Speaker 1>it once it's available on Netflix last one of the

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<v Speaker 1>year as well, so yeah, yeah, we'll be tuning in

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<v Speaker 1>for that there or catching you then, thank you for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk to you next week.
