Speaker 1: Okay, we're live.
Speaker 2: Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates
Speaker 2: on today's show. I have a very special guest. His
Speaker 2: name is Steve who Banie and he published a book
Speaker 2: titled Who Murdered Diana May twenty twenty one. Excellent book.
Speaker 2: I read through it this morning and learned a lot
Speaker 2: more about the suspicious death of Princess Diana. And this
Speaker 2: is not his first book. He also published Who Murdered Fdr,
Speaker 2: Who Murdered Elvis? And also will have a new book
Speaker 2: coming out in twenty twenty four titled Who Murdered Tesla?
Speaker 2: And his website is www. Who Murdered Books dot com.
Speaker 2: And again we're going to talk about this book. If
Speaker 2: you're watching on YouTube, title is Who Murdered Diana? So,
Speaker 2: Steve Oubanie, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: Thanks for going to the interview. Hey, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: It's a pleasure to be on awesome.
Speaker 2: So for people who may not have heard your name
Speaker 2: or your books, can you kind of you definitely have
Speaker 2: a theme. Can you talk about your background and what
Speaker 2: made you interested in telling these particular stories.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are things that you're taught throughout college in
Speaker 1: history class, and this and that that you have to
Speaker 1: give the right answer to just to pass the class.
Speaker 1: But some of the things, I just never believed a
Speaker 1: lot of that, and there's little holes that I poke
Speaker 1: through history. I don't really call myself a conspiracy theorist.
Speaker 1: I'm more of a history detective. Took a lot of
Speaker 1: history in college. I've got four degrees that spanned multiple decades.
Speaker 1: So I'm a person who I'm inquisitive about a lot
Speaker 1: of subjects. And the people that I have investigated are
Speaker 1: just the ones that I thought are the most blatant
Speaker 1: that I could write about. There's a lot of other
Speaker 1: things in history that I let go. But there's some
Speaker 1: other presidential murders in there that I think should be
Speaker 1: looked at, Warren Harding, for example, but I'm not going
Speaker 1: to write about. But these are the ones that I
Speaker 1: thought were the most obvious that I could write about,
Speaker 1: and I found some new information on all of them.
Speaker 1: So that's what brought you around.
Speaker 2: You started out with Elvis right, who murdered Elvis?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And a lot of people don't know because
Speaker 1: Elvis had Elvis had the Memphis Mafia, which was his
Speaker 1: inner group of guys who I ended up knowing almost
Speaker 1: all of them. And you know, nothing got out from Elvis,
Speaker 1: nothing got into Elvis found how his manager had all
Speaker 1: kinds of MOB ties, and Elvis of course went into
Speaker 1: helping the FBI, helping Nixon in the FBI. This was
Speaker 1: not going to end well at all, not even close.
Speaker 1: And Elvis died very mysteriously a few days was sorry
Speaker 1: before he was supposed to turn state's evidence against the mob.
Speaker 1: So that was the first one, and that was about
Speaker 1: ten years of digging on that one. I ended up
Speaker 1: talking to people who were at the autopsy, being friends
Speaker 1: with a couple of them. And you know, we're at
Speaker 1: that point in life now where these people, a lot
Speaker 1: of them are dead. Now, you know, it's sad. They've
Speaker 1: lived their full lives and they're gone. But I like
Speaker 1: to go source direct if I can. I don't like
Speaker 1: to uh, you know, I don't like to get secondhand information.
Speaker 1: You know, that's like yesterday's toast, you know, right, a
Speaker 1: source direct. So uh, And after after I did the
Speaker 1: Elvis books, I didn't want an FDR, which I found
Speaker 1: some new information where his cousin put in a diary
Speaker 1: that he was murdered and you know when when a
Speaker 1: big event happens like this, where like Diana dies or
Speaker 1: Elvis dies or FDR dies or something like that, everyone
Speaker 1: is scrambling for information and it's all tightly held. Nothing's
Speaker 1: out there, but it's decades roll on and in documents
Speaker 1: get declassified and other information comes out. You might have
Speaker 1: a deathbed confession. You can go back in when no
Speaker 1: one's looking, I'm still looking. You can go back in
Speaker 1: and you can piece together exactly what happened. And in
Speaker 1: all of my books, they're all laid out the same way.
Speaker 1: A backdrop of the person, and I gather the suspects
Speaker 1: and I run them through the elements of a crime.
Speaker 1: Motive means an opportunity, and in the end, I let
Speaker 1: I let the evidence write the book. It's almost like
Speaker 1: the sculptor who just takes away the extra pieces so
Speaker 1: you can see the see the sculptor the sculpture. I'm
Speaker 1: kind of the same way. I just take away the
Speaker 1: fluff so real evidence can be shown and how how
Speaker 1: do very They're very interesting books. They're cross genre. Actually,
Speaker 1: there's true true crime and history and celebrity and suspense
Speaker 1: and mystery. It's all kind of wrapped up in.
Speaker 2: There, no very much. Though the book that I read
Speaker 2: Diana has a lot of her history. You talk about
Speaker 2: the background of her and Charles, Prince Charles and the
Speaker 2: royals and what she got herself into a lot of
Speaker 2: that stuff. I wasn't fully aware of a cognizan enough.
Speaker 2: Can you kind of talk about how you started your
Speaker 2: investigation into who murdered Diana?
Speaker 1: Well, all had I had to self publish all of
Speaker 1: these books. No one was going to publish these books.
Speaker 1: And it's not because they're not worthy of being published.
Speaker 1: It's because the major publishing houses are owned by the
Speaker 1: same media conglomerates who have been lying to you about
Speaker 1: these people's deaths for ages, so it's not of their
Speaker 1: best interest to publish someone like me who comes around
Speaker 1: and you know, and puts that out there. How I
Speaker 1: went about this was, like I said, gathering as much
Speaker 1: evidence as I could, things that people know, things that
Speaker 1: people don't know, and just looking in different places. And
Speaker 1: I was this book is really interesting, the Diana book.
Speaker 1: Because my manuscript was done. I was all done. It
Speaker 1: was all done, and I made a huge mistake which
Speaker 1: I'll never do again. I put on social media my
Speaker 1: next book is on Princess Diana will be out. Someone
Speaker 1: got a hold of me and saw it and got
Speaker 1: a hold of me from France. Their mother died. She's
Speaker 1: been investigating Princess Diana for ten years, and they said
Speaker 1: do you want the information? And I'm like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: do I really want to do this? So I said, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: send it along. And I'm thinking, yeah, this is this
Speaker 1: is probably a nothing burger. So I get it in
Speaker 1: the mail and it's loaded with information and pictures that
Speaker 1: no one had. So I got back. I tried to
Speaker 1: go back to them and tell them that I got
Speaker 1: this information and who do I credit this with? And
Speaker 1: you know, I try to, you know, cite my sources.
Speaker 1: They were they were gone. The user has disappeared, which
Speaker 1: was really bizarre. So I have information in my book
Speaker 1: that I don't think anybody in the world has. I
Speaker 1: actually have pictures in there of people who were in
Speaker 1: the crowd and who were suspicious, who I think were
Speaker 1: involved in what happened. So there's a lot a lot
Speaker 1: of information as to why this book is unique from
Speaker 1: the others.
Speaker 2: Right, and you have those two pictures. There was all
Speaker 2: kinds of strange events, but who was Princess Diana, and
Speaker 2: why did she become a part of the royal She
Speaker 2: was really royalty in England, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a fascinating person in history. I have to
Speaker 1: move There's a lot of dadda here, so I have
Speaker 1: to move.
Speaker 2: Quick because it's kind of take time talking about the
Speaker 2: background because then people can take that next step and
Speaker 2: go get your book or audiobook.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Princess Diana was a real interesting, interesting figure in
Speaker 1: history if you go all the way back to like
Speaker 1: thirteen twenty seven Edward the third King, Edward, like I
Speaker 1: did because I'm a geek and I have to research things,
Speaker 1: you know, That's what I do. Princess Diana and Prince
Speaker 1: Charles were cousins, so she would grow up to marry
Speaker 1: her cousin, which is kind of weird, like Roosevelt. You know,
Speaker 1: this is what this was commonly done in royal blood lines.
Speaker 1: And it can be argued that her bloodline was actually
Speaker 1: more royal than the royal families. So she comes up
Speaker 1: the big misnomer that everybody says that you know, she
Speaker 1: was a commoner and this and that, which is why
Speaker 1: everybody was so intrigued by this this woman, and you know,
Speaker 1: the fairy tale princess. She was not a commoner, not
Speaker 1: even close her her father was the eighth Earl of Spencer.
Speaker 1: I mean, she was a Spencer. You can't get any
Speaker 1: more royal in England than the Spencer's, you know she,
Speaker 1: I mean, the royal family in the Spencers had known
Speaker 1: each other for generations. So it just so happened that
Speaker 1: when she came into being in the media that she
Speaker 1: was you know, she was doing menial jobs because you know,
Speaker 1: her mother had bought her a flat in London, and
Speaker 1: of course that's when she's started courting Charles. So she
Speaker 1: came into the media I be doing common things, but
Speaker 1: she was by no means a commoner. So there was
Speaker 1: a lot of psychological damage that was done to this
Speaker 1: poor woman when she was a child. She of course,
Speaker 1: they all want boys to carry on the family name, okay,
Speaker 1: they carry on their monarchy of their lineage or whatever.
Speaker 1: And the year before she was born, the family had
Speaker 1: lost had lost a boy, they lost they had a
Speaker 1: stillborn son. So when she came along a year later
Speaker 1: and she was a girl, she was completely unwanted and
Speaker 1: they threw it up in her face. When she was
Speaker 1: growing up, I can't imagine why anyone would put any
Speaker 1: little girl through this mental abuse. That's just unspeakable. But
Speaker 1: she grew up in that atmosphere and she had that
Speaker 1: in the back, in the back of her head that
Speaker 1: you know, I've done something wrong because I'm not a book.
Speaker 1: Really bizarre. So the family split, They have a divorce
Speaker 1: and the mother went her own way, and her father
Speaker 1: was a really nice man who had the means to
Speaker 1: care for the children. At age nine, she goes up
Speaker 1: to special schools, you know, to begin her education, and
Speaker 1: she went from various different schools, finishing school included, and
Speaker 1: she was just not a student. She just was not
Speaker 1: a good student. And she ended up failing out and
Speaker 1: doing this and doing that, and she finally ended up
Speaker 1: where we first saw her, you know, doing common jobs.
Speaker 1: So that's the background on her. She was the student,
Speaker 1: she was the kind of the sibling in that family
Speaker 1: who wanted to take care of all the other ones
Speaker 1: because the divorce was not a good one. Divorce never is.
Speaker 1: So that's the backdrop of her and that unwantedness emotionally
Speaker 1: is what. But was her downfall with her marriage. She
Speaker 1: gets so she's growing up and she goes to Prince
Speaker 1: Charles was actually dating her sister, Sarah, which is a
Speaker 1: bizarre twist. So not only are these people cousins, I
Speaker 1: mean is you can't make this up, right, So he's
Speaker 1: dating Sarah, who either said something wrong in the media
Speaker 1: or the media took it and ran with it, and
Speaker 1: it tweaked the Queen's nose a little bit, and Sarah
Speaker 1: was history quick. So here's Charles at thirty years old.
Speaker 1: And of course we have to have boys, right, because
Speaker 1: that's what we do to carry on the monarchy. So
Speaker 1: there's a lot of enormous pressure on Prince Charles to
Speaker 1: sire children and keep this monarchy going. So he's at
Speaker 1: thirty years old and the Spencer's The Spencer girls were
Speaker 1: perfect marrying material for royalty. They were raised right, were
Speaker 1: all virgins, they were familiar to the royal family, so
Speaker 1: I believe the Queen picked Diana. And of course, you know,
Speaker 1: they knew each other well, which certainly helps. And of
Speaker 1: course the courtship started. So when they married, he was
Speaker 1: thirty two, she was twenty. So she's still kind of
Speaker 1: a naive little creature here, and she's got this scar
Speaker 1: tissue in the back of her brain about being unwanted
Speaker 1: her whole life. So she's just blown off her feet. Wow,
Speaker 1: you know, here's this. You know, I'm get to next
Speaker 1: in line for queen. You know, she just fell hook
Speaker 1: line and sinker in this. You know. This was the
Speaker 1: the Disney wedding, you know, the fairytale wedding that every
Speaker 1: little girl wants, you know, and she.
Speaker 2: Looked the part. I mean she had. I kind of
Speaker 2: feel like she outclasped Charles a lot in looks and
Speaker 2: her demeanor. And I think it started right there. But
Speaker 2: Charles was still with this Parker Bulls woman.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: A lot of people may not know that that relationship
Speaker 2: preceded his relationship with Diana, right.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there was a woman in Charles's life. He
Speaker 1: didn't care if he was married or not, because he
Speaker 1: was involved with Camilla Parker Bulls, who he's married to now.
Speaker 1: And they started in nineteen seventy one. You know, they
Speaker 1: started their relationship behind her husband's back, and the Queen
Speaker 1: had a fit. The Queen had a fit about this,
Speaker 1: and she trust she knew about it, and she tried
Speaker 1: to break She did everything to break these two up.
Speaker 1: She even sent him off to the military. So they
Speaker 1: could get you know, they could be away from each other.
Speaker 1: And of course when he came back from the military,
Speaker 1: you know, it didn't work very well. They just made
Speaker 1: it for lost time. So here's Diana right, twenty years old,
Speaker 1: fantastic wedding and all these plans, and Charles was only
Speaker 1: half he's you know in this, you know, she's whole hog.
Speaker 1: He's still emotionally invested elsewhere. So there's a lot of
Speaker 1: royal crotch swapping going on. And I know there's no
Speaker 1: better way to put that, but that's what's going on.
Speaker 2: So and she knew, Diana knows that he is two timing,
Speaker 2: and Parker Bulls lets Diana know, right, so.
Speaker 1: She kind of I think that she enjoyed tweaking Diana's nose,
Speaker 1: but it didn't. It didn't happen. It didn't happen at first.
Speaker 1: It happened a little further down the road, you know.
Speaker 1: So you know they're they're engaged in February of eighty one,
Speaker 1: and they're married in July of July of eighty one.
Speaker 1: And it was a fantastic wedding. He was wedding, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, it costs.
Speaker 2: By millions of people, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yes, fifty countries, seven hundred and fifty million people, and
Speaker 1: this is quite a wedding. So she well, we know
Speaker 1: what happened. I mean they got divorced. She had they
Speaker 1: had two, you know, two wonderful boys, and they ended
Speaker 1: up she ended up getting divorced. And she had a
Speaker 1: slew of uh of boyfriends here and there, and I
Speaker 1: won't go into that, it's covered in the book. And
Speaker 1: it got to the point where I don't care what
Speaker 1: kind of government you run. It doesn't matter to me
Speaker 1: if you're a communist or what you are. You want
Speaker 1: complacent people. You don't want uprisings. It is not in
Speaker 1: any government's best interest. And when this split was going
Speaker 1: on between Diana and Charles, the tabloids were having a
Speaker 1: field day in England and around the world as well,
Speaker 1: but in England specifically, there were people taking sides and
Speaker 1: this was not good for the royal family. So the
Speaker 1: Queen finally had had enough. I mean, the royal family
Speaker 1: only does a handful of things. They keep the monarchy
Speaker 1: going with boys, They appear ceremoniously as dignitaries, and you know,
Speaker 1: they keep themselves to a chokingly high st and they
Speaker 1: stay away from people. That's the three or four things
Speaker 1: that they do well. You can't maintain this stature in
Speaker 1: the world and have this chokingly high standard of conduct
Speaker 1: when all of this is going on in the media.
Speaker 1: So the Queen gets involved and said, that's that you
Speaker 1: guys are going to divorce. I think it's the first
Speaker 1: time in history it's ever happened. So they have rules,
Speaker 1: they have very very old rules that they run their
Speaker 1: monarchy by, and this they were not going to let
Speaker 1: this black eye happen. So they divorce. Diana goes through
Speaker 1: a period where she's extraordinarily depressed, tries to kill herself.
Speaker 1: All of this came out later through multiple authors. A
Speaker 1: lot of great researchers before me came into this. The
Speaker 1: reason my book is different is because I'm the only
Speaker 1: American researcher in this. I don't look at it through
Speaker 1: the lens of the royal family. So my research is
Speaker 1: so she's trying to reinvent herself. She goes to this
Speaker 1: period we she hates herself and under and she's trying
Speaker 1: to reinvent herself using causes. And the first cause that
Speaker 1: she got involved in was the ran contrary to the
Speaker 1: interests of the pharmaceutical industry. Okay, AIDS is the big thing,
Speaker 1: and she's trying to raise awareness for this AIDS cause,
Speaker 1: and she's trying to be kind of like a supermodel
Speaker 1: slash mother Teresa for the whole world, right, which is
Speaker 1: a lofty ambition. She did a pretty good job of
Speaker 1: it ended up costing her life. But this is the
Speaker 1: first suspect that I entered in was the pharmaceutical industry.
Speaker 1: And here's why they're trying very very hard at this
Speaker 1: point in time to come up with a vaccine that
Speaker 1: they could sell to multiple countries. And if you want
Speaker 1: to sell a vaccine, you have to have fear. That's
Speaker 1: a tremendous component in selling a vaccine. It has to
Speaker 1: be worthy of buying. Okay. So at the time, the
Speaker 1: common thought was, you can't touch AIDS patients, you can't
Speaker 1: do this, You can't do that. You know, we have
Speaker 1: to have this vaccine in these medications and so forth. Well,
Speaker 1: here she is going around the world holding babies who
Speaker 1: have AIDS and having physical contact with AIDS patients. And
Speaker 1: of course this was a different time. We know different
Speaker 1: about this now, but we didn't then. So here she
Speaker 1: is actually undoing the pharmaceutical industries bidding. They're trying to
Speaker 1: promote the fear, so they get the vaccine out and everything,
Speaker 1: and she's running around, running contrary to there, to their wishes.
Speaker 1: So she's costing them millions and millions of dollars. And
Speaker 1: they were not her friend. So the first suspect I
Speaker 1: entered in the book was a pharmaceutical industry. Okay, So
Speaker 1: she realizes from here, you know, I'm starting to get
Speaker 1: some threats. She's been getting death threats for years, and
Speaker 1: she's gonna latch onto another another cause, and this was
Speaker 1: a land mine ban around the world. She just couldn't
Speaker 1: believe that after these countries were at war, their land
Speaker 1: mines are still in the ground and these people are
Speaker 1: just toodling upon these things and getting blown up, which
Speaker 1: is kind of horrible. I can't I can't disagree with her.
Speaker 1: So she attaches herself to this cause, and it's officially
Speaker 1: called the ICBL, the International Campaign to Ban Landmines, and
Speaker 1: it's it's grabbing a lot of attention. So she's going
Speaker 1: around the world. I'm seeing people are chiming in here.
Speaker 1: It's kind of funny, but.
Speaker 2: She's going around but very prominently right so she her
Speaker 2: public relations. She's very high and I think you point
Speaker 2: down in your book she was really an influencer before
Speaker 2: they had that term of on the internet, like she
Speaker 2: was really a mega influencer.
Speaker 1: She was it. She could she she could manipulate the
Speaker 1: media like no person in the world could manipulate the media.
Speaker 1: And it was a double edged sword. She could whatever
Speaker 1: she wanted, whatever causes she wanted to do. She could
Speaker 1: snap her fingers on hand global media attention. The problem
Speaker 1: was you couldn't turn it off, so they would show
Speaker 1: up at times where they didn't want She didn't you know,
Speaker 1: want them. So July of ninety six, she's on this
Speaker 1: anti landmine campaign and hard too. So she's going to
Speaker 1: Angola and she's of course she's got full media coverage
Speaker 1: there because she wants this ban, and you know, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of countries on board with us, and she's
Speaker 1: gonna spearhead this. So she's she's seen with you know,
Speaker 1: people who were missing arms and legs, and it was
Speaker 1: really gut wrenching that this could happen. So here she
Speaker 1: starts getting real threats and this didn't come out. We
Speaker 1: didn't know this came out afterwards there's a man named
Speaker 1: Alan McGregor who's out there, who I tried to interview
Speaker 1: as hard as a person could try. I hired three
Speaker 1: private detectives to find this guy who I could interview him,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't find them. He was in charge of
Speaker 1: her security when she traveled abroad, and she got threatened
Speaker 1: to the point where they had to pay one hundred
Speaker 1: million pounds dollars to us and just to you know,
Speaker 1: keep them from attacking her and taking her hostage and
Speaker 1: killing her in Angola. So there are real threats here.
Speaker 2: So I think you said in your book, like the
Speaker 2: six months before she died, what was the actual date
Speaker 2: of her death was thirty first of August nineteen ninety seven,
Speaker 2: the six months they were talking about potential assassination of her.
Speaker 2: So it was on the minds of people surrounding including her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely it was. So she goes into now this
Speaker 1: is this is Angola, and now we're into August and
Speaker 1: she's in Bosnia and yeah, she's in Bosnia August eighteenth,
Speaker 1: and she's doing the same thing. You know, She's out
Speaker 1: there creating this big media stir and it's running contrary
Speaker 1: to the international arms brokers you know, look, we need
Speaker 1: to come to the realization of the fact that there
Speaker 1: are bad people in this world. Most of us wouldn't
Speaker 1: harm a fly, but there are bad people out there,
Speaker 1: and there are countries on this planet whose entire gross
Speaker 1: national product revolves around on the sale of arms, legally
Speaker 1: or illegally. So she doesn't really understand that she's trying
Speaker 1: to get this arms this there's a small arms band
Speaker 1: coming after the anti landmine campaign, so I mean she
Speaker 1: had one hundred countries involved in this thing in June
Speaker 1: of ninety seven. This was a serious thing. She doesn't
Speaker 1: really fully understand that she's upsetting the balance of the
Speaker 1: monetary system and power in the world because this is
Speaker 1: now global finance involved in these arms brokers. So this
Speaker 1: is the second the second people who I entered in
Speaker 1: first aspects were international arms brokers, so they were not
Speaker 1: her friend. What's so special about the information I got
Speaker 1: from France is at the Builderberg conference that year. It
Speaker 1: was the forty fifth conference of the builder Burgers on
Speaker 1: the twelfth through the fifteenth of June. One of the
Speaker 1: people who was at the Builderberg meeting actually gave they
Speaker 1: overheard two three people involved in a conversation planning her death,
Speaker 1: and it gives all of the detail of who was
Speaker 1: involved in what they said and everything, and you know,
Speaker 1: lo and behold, it was just it was forty days
Speaker 1: afterwards that she was dead, you know, right, So.
Speaker 2: It's incredible one like huge industrialists and things like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So the suspects that I gathered were
Speaker 1: the pharmaceutical companies, the international arms brokers. Of course, the
Speaker 1: royal family was in there. The paparazzi was in there.
Speaker 1: Because I'll cover that in a second, and I have
Speaker 1: to move quick because I'm this is a lot of
Speaker 1: information and it's kind of a shorter show. So there
Speaker 1: are two jilded lovers that were in there. Hasn't At Khan,
Speaker 1: who was her mister Wonderful, the guy that she just
Speaker 1: absolutely loved who parted ways before she ended up with
Speaker 1: Dodi al Faed, He was kind of a jilted lover.
Speaker 1: And Dodie Alfayed of course, the boyfriend that she had
Speaker 1: when she died. He broke it off with an American model,
Speaker 1: Kelly Fisher. So all of these people either have the
Speaker 1: opportunity to kill. So the suspects involved are the royal family,
Speaker 1: the paparazzi. Kelly Fisher has Nick Kahn International arms brokers
Speaker 1: in the pharmaceutical industry. So in two hundred pages, I
Speaker 1: will lay out all of this information and I'll break
Speaker 1: down who did it. Okay, So Dodie Alfia is interesting
Speaker 1: to come across. She starts they were together exactly four weeks.
Speaker 1: This romance lasted four weeks. Nothing. Yeah, and you know
Speaker 1: they meet in Paris, you know, July and ninety six,
Speaker 1: and again the l Faeds had known the Spencers for generations.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, his father is a Mohammed Alfia.
Speaker 1: Dodie's father is an Egyptian billionaire who owned He owns
Speaker 1: the Hotel Rits in Paris. He owned Herod's department store.
Speaker 1: He was a longtime friend of Diana's father. So after
Speaker 1: after he died, you know, her father died, Mohammed al
Speaker 1: Fieg used to check in in the family. He actually
Speaker 1: went on to employ a couple of her family members. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, England's only so big, and if you
Speaker 1: were in the upper crust of wealth or something, you're
Speaker 1: gonna know each other. So these people all know each other.
Speaker 1: Dodi and Diana had known each other since the eighties,
Speaker 1: so now they're starting, uh, you know a little bit
Speaker 1: of a different, different relationship. So I know there's been
Speaker 1: a lot said out there that she had a baby bump,
Speaker 1: and she was pregnant with Dodie's child, and this and
Speaker 1: that and the other thing, and they were getting engaged.
Speaker 2: Somebody just as that. Somebody just asked that in the chat.
Speaker 2: Was she pregnant when she died but she only knew him.
Speaker 1: For four weeks? Yeah, And they were saying that, you know,
Speaker 1: she had a baby bump and this and that and
Speaker 1: the other thing, if she was pregnant, And I said if,
Speaker 1: because I found no evidence to it. It might have
Speaker 1: been in four weeks. You're not having a baby bump.
Speaker 1: You know, that baby would be the size of maybe
Speaker 1: a poppy seed. You know, it would have been impossible
Speaker 1: for her to be showing a baby bumpet it four weeks. Now,
Speaker 1: she might have been pregnant with someone else's kid. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but it couldn't have been, you know, it
Speaker 1: couldn't have been what they were saying. So big media storm. Okay,
Speaker 1: So here you have the most photographed and probably at
Speaker 1: the time, the most famous woman on the planet and
Speaker 1: people who were not of you know, I'm fifty six, okay,
Speaker 1: I remember this. A lot of people who were younger,
Speaker 1: they don't understand that this was a time before social media,
Speaker 1: a time before almost before the Internet. It was you know,
Speaker 1: it was a big thing. Tabloids and what you saw
Speaker 1: on television was everything, and you had a lot of
Speaker 1: attention on one woman. She was it. So she starts
Speaker 1: this involvement with Dodie Alfied, okay, who's a global playboy.
Speaker 1: Of course, his father's a billionaire and he's a Hollywood
Speaker 1: film producer and he'd Chariots of Fire and Hook and
Speaker 1: Scarlet Letter and Breaking Glass and he's also his father's
Speaker 1: right hand man at the Ritz, the hotel in Paris,
Speaker 1: and he basically just travels the world, playing with it
Speaker 1: with those girls, and that's it. And so Diana comes on.
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, everything changes. So he ends
Speaker 1: up dumping Kelly Fisher, the model, to be with Diana.
Speaker 1: So apparently, so the story goes, he's going to propose
Speaker 1: marriage marriage to her. I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 1: It may be, I don't know, Okay. People say a
Speaker 1: lot of things, and a lot of red herrings are
Speaker 1: thrown into the story just so it can be unsolvable, right,
Speaker 1: So they did that a lot with well, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to get into it. I'll explain that a little
Speaker 1: bit later on if I have time. I laid it
Speaker 1: out in the book. Yes, the error, Yes, Oh there's tons.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't can't make this up. So they
Speaker 1: decided to go to Paris, Diana's favorite place, you loved Paris.
Speaker 1: So they're on the boat they land. The Lfeds are
Speaker 1: very famous people, very rich people. They have their own security. Okay.
Speaker 1: So not only do they have security at the Ritz
Speaker 1: who handled the security at the hotel, they had their
Speaker 1: own personal security for Dody and the family. So their
Speaker 1: personal security, you know, they give in the limousines, you know,
Speaker 1: of course, and they're big protected limousines with blacked out windows.
Speaker 1: And they go to the Writs, which they have been
Speaker 1: too often. They they had the Imperial Suite there and
Speaker 1: they hang out there quite a bit. Why not, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, el if I own the Ritz, i'd be
Speaker 1: there all the time too, you know. So they get
Speaker 1: to the Rits and here's where fact and fiction kind of.
Speaker 1: I'll give you that. First of all, I'll give you
Speaker 1: the Easter Bunny story and then I'll give you the
Speaker 1: real story. Okay, Okay. So he wants to take her
Speaker 1: to Chas Bonnet, which was her favorite restaurant in Paris.
Speaker 1: So they have a quarter to ten. They have an appointment,
Speaker 1: a dinner reservation. So he goes. This is according to
Speaker 1: legend and lore. Okay, he goes to get the ring
Speaker 1: and he's going to pop the question at this restaurant.
Speaker 1: The security team goes ahead just to make sure everything's okay,
Speaker 1: and it's too crowded there. He's not going to be
Speaker 1: able to be alone with her. This is not the
Speaker 1: right setting. So they decided to come back to the Rits. Okay,
Speaker 1: So they go to the Ritz. They go back to
Speaker 1: the suite upstairs, the Imperial Suite, and they decided's who
Speaker 1: crowded there. So they're gonna go to Dody's apartment, which
Speaker 1: is across town. So they have to sneak out the
Speaker 1: back way because the paparazzi's harassing them, and the paparazzi
Speaker 1: get behind the car and they're interfering with the driver
Speaker 1: and they cause him to spin out and hit the
Speaker 1: crash and she dies and end a story what a
Speaker 1: horrible yeah, and that should be taken right out of
Speaker 1: the library, out of the history section and put right
Speaker 1: next to Grim's fairy tales, because there's not even close
Speaker 1: to being true. And of course the investigation was ridiculous,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I knew. I personally know someone
Speaker 1: who was in the tunnel who went to the French
Speaker 1: and said, hey, wait a minute, you know, we witnessed this,
Speaker 1: we witness this, we witness this. None of it made
Speaker 1: it into the French dossier. None of it went from
Speaker 1: the French dossier to the Paget Report, which was the
Speaker 1: investigation that the British government did, none of it was mentioned.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was almost the biggest damage control document
Speaker 1: in the history of mankind, second only to the Warren
Speaker 1: Commission report. That it patterned itself fafter. Okay, so that's
Speaker 1: that's the best story. Okay, this is what really happened.
Speaker 1: They did want to go to Chasbone that night. It
Speaker 1: is her favorite restaurant, and they have people who go
Speaker 1: ahead in the security team to make sure everything works.
Speaker 1: There's no threats, there's no problem. And I've seen this firsthand.
Speaker 1: I was on Santa Belle Island in Florida a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago and reading at this restaurant, and here
Speaker 1: come these people with walkie talkies looking around and thinking
Speaker 1: what is going on? You know, in walks in. Mike
Speaker 1: Pens and his wife, I've seen this firsthand. You know.
Speaker 1: It was really bizarre to be there at that time.
Speaker 1: So this is their job to make sure that they're
Speaker 1: they're secure. So they go to the restaurant and they're
Speaker 1: looking around and they're seeing things that don't make sense.
Speaker 1: They're seeing people and this is this is August, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's in hell in Paris right on. So they're seeing
Speaker 1: that don't make sense, people in heavy coats and people
Speaker 1: with the knit wool hats on, and they think, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, this is summer. Why would this be happening here.
Speaker 1: Something's wrong. It's almost like the jfk assassination where the
Speaker 1: the guy opens the umbrella doesn't fit. Something's wrong. Okay,
Speaker 1: So they said, you know, look, this is just not safe.
Speaker 1: We're going to have to go somewhere else. So reluctantly
Speaker 1: they had to go back to the Ritz and they
Speaker 1: went up to the Imperial Suite. It wasn't because it
Speaker 1: was too crowded. It was because it wasn't safe. So
Speaker 1: we go back to the Imperial Suite and the driver
Speaker 1: for them is here. Paul Andrey Pel's a very interesting
Speaker 1: year in history. He is head of security at the RITZ,
Speaker 1: and he is on the payroll for multiple agencies around
Speaker 1: the world, and they pay him for intel. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of famous people do stay there, so they'll give him,
Speaker 1: you know, ten thousand dollars or whatever. And he is
Speaker 1: leaking information on all of these famous people. And he's
Speaker 1: working for the CIA, he's working for six he's working
Speaker 1: for multiple other agencies around the world who want information.
Speaker 1: He's an ear, okay, so he's well known to these people.
Speaker 1: So they come back to the to the RITZ, and
Speaker 1: they send him home. You know, look, we're going to
Speaker 1: stay here the rest of the night. And there's a
Speaker 1: phone call in my book that Dody made to his
Speaker 1: father and his father said, look, it's so dangerous. Why
Speaker 1: did they think it was dangerous? Because they knew she
Speaker 1: was getting death threats. None of this has come out before. Okay,
Speaker 1: so he is it's so dangerous. Everything you need is
Speaker 1: right there. Just stay there. So they sent here Paul home.
Speaker 1: No reason. They have a driver if they're not driving
Speaker 1: any place right. Well, Henri Paul gets contacted by six
Speaker 1: and says, we're seeing the same dangerous people now in
Speaker 1: the lobby at the RITZ that were at chas Bonnet.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, it wasn't six, it was the Adodies
Speaker 1: security team. It wasn't six Book. So they said, you've
Speaker 1: got to get her out of there. They could bomb
Speaker 1: the place, they could they God only knows what they're
Speaker 1: going to do. So the security team at the RITZ
Speaker 1: and the l FAED security team know the paparazzi, well,
Speaker 1: they all know each other. And here's why this isn't
Speaker 1: their first celebrity that to take pictures of. So what
Speaker 1: happens is the security team at the RITZ would tip
Speaker 1: off the paparazzis and say, hey, look here, you're staying here,
Speaker 1: you know, you can get a picture here, and they,
Speaker 1: of course they take those pictures and they can sell
Speaker 1: this to, you know, any one of the tabloids around
Speaker 1: the world who are willing to pay it. That's what
Speaker 1: they do for a living.
Speaker 2: And then a huge number started to interrupt. But they
Speaker 2: just had sold a picture of fay Ed kissing Diana
Speaker 2: on a yacht for three hundred quid or three hundred pounds,
Speaker 2: like incredible sums of money. So the demand, the intensity
Speaker 2: for people to take these pictures very intense.
Speaker 1: Sure, absolutely, And then what happened is for the tip,
Speaker 1: they would get the kickback monetarily to the security team.
Speaker 1: So these people all know each other, all right, So
Speaker 1: here comes this situation with Diana, and you know we've
Speaker 1: been talking all this time. Should I tell people how
Speaker 1: to get the book?
Speaker 2: We're gonna get there. No, wait, wait till the end.
Speaker 2: But just a couple couple more facts. The strange things
Speaker 2: around the accident. I mean, the setup was really something else,
Speaker 2: because it's almost like they wanted to delay them. So
Speaker 2: they were driving where when there would be the least
Speaker 2: amount of witnesses, Like, let's.
Speaker 1: Wash him out of midnight. Right, Here's what happened. So
Speaker 1: Henri Paul hatches this scheme. He's told that they've secured
Speaker 1: a route for her for him to drive the princess
Speaker 1: and Dodi uh and the he said, look, take her
Speaker 1: out the back door and you know, sneak her off
Speaker 1: in a car that no one would suspect she's in,
Speaker 1: and we'll secure a route for you so there won't
Speaker 1: be any traffic. There won't be anything there, and he said, okay,
Speaker 1: I can do it. So he goes and tells happen.
Speaker 1: So Henri and Dodi says, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: want to do this. You know, he said, how are
Speaker 1: we going to be? You know, assured that the paparazzi
Speaker 1: aren't going to see us, and he said, I'll take
Speaker 1: care of that. So what he did, pretty smart guy.
Speaker 1: He goes out the front door where all the paparazzis
Speaker 1: are and all of the l fied limbos are, and
Speaker 1: he says, they'll be out in about fifteen minutes. Stick around. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: now he's with the hotel security team. They know his
Speaker 1: word is his word because he's worked with them before.
Speaker 1: So fifteen minutes come, they're not there. In ten minutes,
Speaker 1: they were out the back door of the riots, four
Speaker 1: of them in Trevor Rees jones On repalled the driver
Speaker 1: in the back seat where Doty and Diana. So they
Speaker 1: get about fifty feet down the road when they don't
Speaker 1: have feet over there, they have meters or in the
Speaker 1: metric system, and they had to have come to the realization,
Speaker 1: oh my god, we've been set up because there are
Speaker 1: motorcycles called motorbikes over there, huge motorcycles, very powerful, all
Speaker 1: blacked out. These people are dressed in black and they're
Speaker 1: surrounding the car. And because this limousine doesn't have tinted windows,
Speaker 1: they can see the princess and they're trying to shoot her.
Speaker 1: They've got pistols, they're trying to knock her off. So
Speaker 1: the driver is just about out of his mind. He's, oh,
Speaker 1: my god, what am I going to do now? He
Speaker 1: had to know he was set up. It was impossible
Speaker 1: not for him not to know. So they start racing
Speaker 1: through the streets of Paris, and of course there's never
Speaker 1: been a car that's going to outrun a motorcycle. I mean,
Speaker 1: the power to wait ratio is always on the bike, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, come on. So they're going on this route
Speaker 1: and they go through they go through the first tunnel,
Speaker 1: which is on the Riverside Expressway, and witnesses, they're all
Speaker 1: in by book. I'm not going to name it, but
Speaker 1: five or six witnesses step forward and all tell the
Speaker 1: same thing, the same thing that was told to parties.
Speaker 1: They were surrounding the car. They were fit, they were
Speaker 1: trying to shoot the princess. They were trying to get
Speaker 1: this car to pull over so they could get her.
Speaker 1: There's a big price on her head. She's pissing off
Speaker 1: lots of people. So and like I said before, the
Speaker 1: majority of people, you know, the majority of us are
Speaker 1: really nice people. Ninety nine point eight percent of us
Speaker 1: wouldn't bother a flee. But we have to come to
Speaker 1: the realization that there are people for hire and this
Speaker 1: is what they do. So she's got a price on
Speaker 1: her head. In here we go. So he's trying very
Speaker 1: Andrea Paul's a driver and he's trying desperately in his
Speaker 1: Mercedes S two to eighty to outrun these motorcycles or
Speaker 1: swear or do something right. So they get to the
Speaker 1: first tunnel, and they get to the second tunnel, which
Speaker 1: is Ponteama Tunnel, and this is where the crash happens.
Speaker 1: So now what's happening is the motorcycles are in front
Speaker 1: of the car and they're slowing him down. He can't
Speaker 1: go anywhere. So here's this, of course, in legend and lore,
Speaker 1: this white Fiat Uno that is meandering around the front
Speaker 1: of the tunnel and they're saying that it just just
Speaker 1: happened to you know, the side swipe the limousine and
Speaker 1: it it spun out. It didn't just happen to sideswipe them.
Speaker 1: They did a pit maneuver. A pit maneuver has been done.
Speaker 1: They're doing it in law enforcement now for the last
Speaker 1: twenty years. Has been done in NASCAR for ages and
Speaker 1: ages when two cars get side by side, all the
Speaker 1: one has to do is just clip the back quarter
Speaker 1: and the speed in the inertia spins the first car out.
Speaker 1: This is what they do in chase is now the
Speaker 1: police are doing this. This was they've been doing. I mean,
Speaker 1: liquor runners have been doing this in prohibition for years,
Speaker 1: but now it's more widely known. Prior to this and
Speaker 1: when the Diana's death, this was only done by train drivers.
Speaker 1: It wasn't commonly known but known none. So it's called
Speaker 1: a pitt maneuver. So this is why this car was
Speaker 1: in this spot at this time. It was to get
Speaker 1: the car to spin out in the tunnel, because that
Speaker 1: was their fail save when all else failed. First of all,
Speaker 1: they tried to kill her in the first tunnel with pistols,
Speaker 1: couldn't get a shot. So now how we're coming up
Speaker 1: to another tunnel. So now they're either going to shoot
Speaker 1: her in the tunnel or spin the car out. Well,
Speaker 1: what they did is they spinned the car out to
Speaker 1: a point where it hit the thirteenth pillar and the
Speaker 1: car flew apart, almost like a snap together model, which
Speaker 1: is also something I put in this book. So the
Speaker 1: motorcycles and everybody disappear in different directions, and here's this
Speaker 1: princess who's still alive. Mind you, there was.
Speaker 2: Died, Doty had died, and then Henri Paul died and
Speaker 2: the bodyguard had serious injury.
Speaker 1: Correct, oh yeah, correct, the on impact Henri Paul is
Speaker 1: dead and Dody Efied, who was sitting behind him, was dead.
Speaker 1: Very suspicious for Mercedes Benz, who was crafted at a
Speaker 1: higher speed than they were traveling at when they hit that.
Speaker 1: And I'll come to that in a minute. So Diana there,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean Diana. There's a picture in my book,
Speaker 1: a real picture in my book of Diana, and as
Speaker 1: black and white. Like I said, there's pictures in my
Speaker 1: book that I'm not gonna find anywhere else. There's a
Speaker 1: picture of her upright in grimsing and pain. She was alive, folks.
Speaker 1: I know there was another picture out there that she
Speaker 1: was dead in the car, and it's a color photograph.
Speaker 1: It's it's it was filmed somewhere, probably in the studio.
Speaker 1: It's just it's bonds fake. But I have real pictures
Speaker 1: in my book of the people who were trying to
Speaker 1: kill her, who had the who were in on the plot.
Speaker 1: You know, with the on close circuit TV, there were
Speaker 1: snapshots of the people who were threatening her. So the
Speaker 1: crack happens, Okay, I'm gonna I'm not gonna have time
Speaker 1: to go into the longest the two hour, two hour
Speaker 1: ambulance ride. You know, it took this woman. It took
Speaker 1: them two hours. Try and bend your mind around this.
Speaker 1: And I know other authors have researched this and they're fantastic.
Speaker 1: The other people who have researched this. It took them
Speaker 1: two hours to get this woman the equivalent of four
Speaker 1: miles to a hospital. And that's incredible when you start
Speaker 1: to think about this, you know, I mean there's pizza
Speaker 1: delivery people out there who guarantee a thirty minute delivery.
Speaker 1: She'd have been better off ordering a pizza and riding
Speaker 1: to the hospital with the driver. People are running the
Speaker 1: two minute mile. I mean, this is this is beyond tolerance.
Speaker 1: This is beyond tolerance. So they were all in it together.
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I think you're a handful of
Speaker 1: people who were in on this. I think maybe three
Speaker 1: or four people. I don't think. And when people talk
Speaker 1: about conspiracies that much of a conspiracy writer, I do
Speaker 1: run across them and I know them when I see them,
Speaker 1: but I don't seek them out, but I do see them.
Speaker 2: There's a huge cover up. There's a huge cover up
Speaker 2: in this whole story. I mean they there's the Fiat
Speaker 2: driver shot in the head in the back of the
Speaker 2: twice barn too, a crisp. There's all kinds of Immediately,
Speaker 2: there was information control where they were going after journalists
Speaker 2: and taking there. The French were taking their pictures and
Speaker 2: cameras and leading them. You said that that was happening
Speaker 2: in the UK. People had black bag jobs. So there's
Speaker 2: a lot of moving parts around her death. So you
Speaker 2: and you state that she had to die before September nineteenth,
Speaker 2: like they were targeting, or she had to go before
Speaker 2: the next landmine convention.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you're a little ahead of me in the story,
Speaker 1: but you're absolutely I was.
Speaker 2: Trying to wrap it up, and they just try to
Speaker 2: get to the point where we can ask you some
Speaker 2: questions if you don't mind. I mean there's a lot more.
Speaker 2: It's very detailed and lay it out very deep. I
Speaker 2: mean there's all kinds of sures. Henre Paul had fifty
Speaker 2: thousand deposited in his bank, twenty two thousand in his
Speaker 2: pocket when he died. I mean, just it's not normal.
Speaker 2: And the fact that there are two narratives and two
Speaker 2: stories is really telling. But you mind taking a few questions, Steve, Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to can I can you give
Speaker 1: me five minutes so I can wrap this up?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: Okay, So they take Now the paparazzi have arrived on
Speaker 1: the scene, all right, because they're about ten minutes behind
Speaker 1: because their motorcycles are a little bit less powerful. So
Speaker 1: they show up at the same time the authorities show up,
Speaker 1: and they put two and two together and come up
Speaker 1: with one hundred and forty seven to fifty. And they
Speaker 1: take all the paparazzi away and strip search them and
Speaker 1: take their film and this and that and the other thing,
Speaker 1: and they hold them thirty hours and they realize there's
Speaker 1: no story here. These people couldn't have been here. They
Speaker 1: interviewed them separately and together, and all their stories jive.
Speaker 1: They couldn't place them there. So of course the newspapers
Speaker 1: are running this out that the paparazzi were involved. They
Speaker 1: were not. They had to release them. So when they
Speaker 1: released them, they had to do they had to take
Speaker 1: They had to take a page out of the warrant
Speaker 1: commissioned report and blame the dead guy without the toxicology
Speaker 1: report coming back on Hen Repaul, without any without I mean,
Speaker 1: this is just so screwed up. It's almost hard to
Speaker 1: make this up. Without all of the information coming back
Speaker 1: at the toxicology report Hen Repaul, they released to the
Speaker 1: waiting media that he was drunk as a pig, and
Speaker 1: that's what caused it sound familiar, Lee Harvey Oswald. So
Speaker 1: that's the tale. This Mercedes, this Mercedes S two eighty
Speaker 1: had been stolen and stripped and put back together haphazardly.
Speaker 1: If this is the car they put the most famous
Speaker 1: women in the world in. So I think I'll have
Speaker 1: to wrap there because we don't have time to go
Speaker 1: too much further. I'd love to take some questions.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a perfect time because people can get all
Speaker 2: those details that you add in the book, and all
Speaker 2: of the cover up and scandalous things that happened after
Speaker 2: she died. The letter she wrote that wasn't published. There's
Speaker 2: a lot more in this book. But let me ask you.
Speaker 2: Let's get a couple of messages. Well, she was Diana
Speaker 2: Ever hospitalized for mental illness?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm sorry, I say again, you broke up.
Speaker 2: Was Diana ever hospitalized for a mental illness?
Speaker 1: Not? To my knowledge? She did have some problems. She
Speaker 1: did have some mental problems. It wouldn't surprise was but
Speaker 1: I didn't find anything possible. I mean, I do know
Speaker 1: that she was severely depressed and she tried to kill herself,
Speaker 1: and I know that she had all kinds of eating problems.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if she was ever hospitalized for
Speaker 1: a mental illness. I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that I couldn't find any evidence of it.
Speaker 2: She was anorexic, she admitted to being bollimic, and there's
Speaker 2: pictures of her, what she DIDs, she doesn't look very healthy.
Speaker 2: She had another quotation. Yeah, Another question for you, Steve,
Speaker 2: is do you believe the Boston breaks method was used
Speaker 2: in her assassination.
Speaker 1: Boy, that's possible, isn't it. That's possible. There was so
Speaker 1: much wrong with this vehicle. I don't think they had
Speaker 1: to do this, it's anything. Like I said, it's possible.
Speaker 1: I couldn't find any evidence of it, but it wouldn't
Speaker 1: surprise me.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, so, but there was something wrong, didn't
Speaker 2: they have, Like the seat belts were tampered with, Like
Speaker 2: there was evidence that the seat belts got tampered with?
Speaker 2: Is that true?
Speaker 1: Well, the car was stolen and stripped and it was
Speaker 1: just put back together wrong. And of course the French
Speaker 1: and the British are lying about this. They're saying the
Speaker 1: French was saying this phenometer was stuck at the equivalent
Speaker 1: of one hundred and twenty one miles an hour. The
Speaker 1: British are saying it was stuck at their equivalent of
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty miles an hour. Mercedes Benz finally
Speaker 1: had to step in and say, look, no, after an accident,
Speaker 1: it goes back to zero. This car was stolen and
Speaker 1: stripped of all electronic control modules and the fuses were
Speaker 1: in the wrong spot. I mean, this thing was a
Speaker 1: death trap. Did that happen by accident? It was the
Speaker 1: only car on the motor pool in the motor pool
Speaker 1: came up and the bell boy drove it up. Who
Speaker 1: the hell was this bell boy? This is not a
Speaker 1: secured person or a secured car. The seat belts weren't
Speaker 1: working right, you know. They Mercedes Benz is probably one
Speaker 1: of the finest automobikers in the world. They stepped forward
Speaker 1: and said, we want to do a private investigation of
Speaker 1: this vehicle because it's not behaving properly the front. No
Speaker 1: one would let them investigate the vehicle. They asked three times.
Speaker 1: They were returned down at every turn. The only people
Speaker 1: who investigated this vehicle for these problems were people who
Speaker 1: were paid not to find anything by the British government.
Speaker 2: All right, and there was I mean they cleaned the
Speaker 2: crime scene or the scene of where the accident or
Speaker 2: assassination happened, right away that night. Yeah, I'm watching everything,
Speaker 2: took the car away. It should have been locked down
Speaker 2: for days as they got all the information.
Speaker 1: But oh my god. Yes, that's why they make crime
Speaker 1: scene tape. You get one chance to investigate a crime scene.
Speaker 1: Same thing with Elvis Presley, all right, he's dead. What
Speaker 1: are they doing? They sanitize the dust sine all right,
Speaker 1: Princess Diana's declared dead. They call in special equipment to
Speaker 1: sanitize the tunnel, and they're dragging the car away on
Speaker 1: a flatbed and all of the evidence that could have
Speaker 1: been investigated with it through the streets of Paris at
Speaker 1: two in the morning. What the hell is going on?
Speaker 1: Just like John F. Kennedy, Okay, he gets his brain
Speaker 1: blown out. They take him into Parkland. What a secret
Speaker 1: service doing. They've got a bucket and sponges and they're
Speaker 1: wiping out the car. They're wiping the blood splatter out
Speaker 1: of the car. In a slain US president. You can't
Speaker 1: make this up, you know, I mean, Marilyn Monroe, there's
Speaker 1: another one. You know that the police show up the
Speaker 1: housekeepers doing the laundry. Are you kidding me? You can't.
Speaker 1: And I say that I mentioned these in the book.
Speaker 1: They're called threads of insanity, and I link them up
Speaker 1: through all of these mysterious quote unquote murders. And they
Speaker 1: were not They were hits. Okay, these people were. They
Speaker 1: just didn't die by accident. I mean, I guess they
Speaker 1: were murders, but they are high profile hits, and all
Speaker 1: of these have commonalities that I a link up in
Speaker 1: the book. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: Really, you did a great job, very cogent. You laid
Speaker 2: it out rationally. You can follow on get the background,
Speaker 2: which is also very important. Where's the best place to
Speaker 2: get the book, Steve?
Speaker 1: My book is available in ebook an audiobook all the
Speaker 1: way around the world. It's available in kindle. If you
Speaker 1: want a physical copy, you can go to my website,
Speaker 1: who Murdered Books dot com. If you want me on
Speaker 1: your show, fill out the forum there. I'll be had
Speaker 1: to do it. Physical books are going away. I've got
Speaker 1: a handful left if you want one. It's cheaper than Amazon.
Speaker 1: If you want a physical book, I will autograph them
Speaker 1: to anybody you want. And I've got I don't know,
Speaker 1: a couple dozen left. And when they're gone, they're gone.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing any more physical books. It's going to
Speaker 1: be digital from here on end. So go to who
Speaker 1: Murdered Books dot com. You can catch me on Facebook,
Speaker 1: you can catch me on Twitter. I love to hear
Speaker 1: from people who read my stuff, so don't be afraid
Speaker 1: to reach out.
Speaker 2: Great and that's I'll put that the link in the
Speaker 2: show notes who Murdered books dot com with your full
Speaker 2: name Stephen who banie U b A n e Y.
Speaker 2: And again this book was Who Murdered Diana published May one,
Speaker 2: So Steve, thanks so much for your time.
Speaker 1: Hey. Thanks, it's a pleasure of being here.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool,