WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:00.920 Okay, we're live. 2 00:00:00.960 --> 00:00:03.520 Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates 3 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:05.799 on today's show. I have a very special guest. His 4 00:00:05.879 --> 00:00:09.000 name is Steve who Banie and he published a book 5 00:00:09.160 --> 00:00:13.240 titled Who Murdered Diana May twenty twenty one. Excellent book. 6 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:16.359 I read through it this morning and learned a lot 7 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:22.519 more about the suspicious death of Princess Diana. And this 8 00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:26.239 is not his first book. He also published Who Murdered Fdr, 9 00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:28.839 Who Murdered Elvis? And also will have a new book 10 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:32.159 coming out in twenty twenty four titled Who Murdered Tesla? 11 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:37.200 And his website is www. Who Murdered Books dot com. 12 00:00:37.719 --> 00:00:39.399 And again we're going to talk about this book. If 13 00:00:39.399 --> 00:00:43.200 you're watching on YouTube, title is Who Murdered Diana? So, 14 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:44.560 Steve Oubanie, welcome to the show. 15 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:47.759 Thanks for going to the interview. Hey, thanks for having me. 16 00:00:47.799 --> 00:00:49.560 It's a pleasure to be on awesome. 17 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:51.439 So for people who may not have heard your name 18 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:53.479 or your books, can you kind of you definitely have 19 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:55.479 a theme. Can you talk about your background and what 20 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:58.679 made you interested in telling these particular stories. 21 00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:04.840 Yeah, there are things that you're taught throughout college in 22 00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:07.840 history class, and this and that that you have to 23 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:10.439 give the right answer to just to pass the class. 24 00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:13.719 But some of the things, I just never believed a 25 00:01:13.719 --> 00:01:16.400 lot of that, and there's little holes that I poke 26 00:01:16.519 --> 00:01:21.400 through history. I don't really call myself a conspiracy theorist. 27 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:25.359 I'm more of a history detective. Took a lot of 28 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:31.640 history in college. I've got four degrees that spanned multiple decades. 29 00:01:31.840 --> 00:01:35.920 So I'm a person who I'm inquisitive about a lot 30 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:38.719 of subjects. And the people that I have investigated are 31 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:41.959 just the ones that I thought are the most blatant 32 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:44.359 that I could write about. There's a lot of other 33 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:48.400 things in history that I let go. But there's some 34 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:51.319 other presidential murders in there that I think should be 35 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:54.719 looked at, Warren Harding, for example, but I'm not going 36 00:01:54.760 --> 00:01:56.879 to write about. But these are the ones that I 37 00:01:56.920 --> 00:02:00.799 thought were the most obvious that I could write about, 38 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:02.920 and I found some new information on all of them. 39 00:02:03.000 --> 00:02:07.239 So that's what brought you around. 40 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:09.919 You started out with Elvis right, who murdered Elvis? 41 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:12.280 Oh yeah, And a lot of people don't know because 42 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:16.000 Elvis had Elvis had the Memphis Mafia, which was his 43 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:18.560 inner group of guys who I ended up knowing almost 44 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:25.360 all of them. And you know, nothing got out from Elvis, 45 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:30.840 nothing got into Elvis found how his manager had all 46 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:35.240 kinds of MOB ties, and Elvis of course went into 47 00:02:35.400 --> 00:02:39.800 helping the FBI, helping Nixon in the FBI. This was 48 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:43.360 not going to end well at all, not even close. 49 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:47.599 And Elvis died very mysteriously a few days was sorry 50 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:50.280 before he was supposed to turn state's evidence against the mob. 51 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:53.680 So that was the first one, and that was about 52 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:55.680 ten years of digging on that one. I ended up 53 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:00.680 talking to people who were at the autopsy, being friends 54 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:02.719 with a couple of them. And you know, we're at 55 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:05.240 that point in life now where these people, a lot 56 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:07.800 of them are dead. Now, you know, it's sad. They've 57 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:10.919 lived their full lives and they're gone. But I like 58 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:13.680 to go source direct if I can. I don't like 59 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:17.080 to uh, you know, I don't like to get secondhand information. 60 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:21.400 You know, that's like yesterday's toast, you know, right, a 61 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:24.439 source direct. So uh, And after after I did the 62 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:29.280 Elvis books, I didn't want an FDR, which I found 63 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:32.960 some new information where his cousin put in a diary 64 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:36.520 that he was murdered and you know when when a 65 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:40.000 big event happens like this, where like Diana dies or 66 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:44.520 Elvis dies or FDR dies or something like that, everyone 67 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:48.680 is scrambling for information and it's all tightly held. Nothing's 68 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:54.039 out there, but it's decades roll on and in documents 69 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:57.639 get declassified and other information comes out. You might have 70 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:00.599 a deathbed confession. You can go back in when no 71 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:04.120 one's looking, I'm still looking. You can go back in 72 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:07.120 and you can piece together exactly what happened. And in 73 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:09.479 all of my books, they're all laid out the same way. 74 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:15.840 A backdrop of the person, and I gather the suspects 75 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:18.639 and I run them through the elements of a crime. 76 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:22.959 Motive means an opportunity, and in the end, I let 77 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:26.639 I let the evidence write the book. It's almost like 78 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:29.199 the sculptor who just takes away the extra pieces so 79 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:32.680 you can see the see the sculptor the sculpture. I'm 80 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:34.439 kind of the same way. I just take away the 81 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:39.519 fluff so real evidence can be shown and how how 82 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:44.319 do very They're very interesting books. They're cross genre. Actually, 83 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:49.879 there's true true crime and history and celebrity and suspense 84 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:51.879 and mystery. It's all kind of wrapped up in. 85 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:55.000 There, no very much. Though the book that I read 86 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:57.519 Diana has a lot of her history. You talk about 87 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:00.839 the background of her and Charles, Prince Charles and the 88 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:03.560 royals and what she got herself into a lot of 89 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:06.959 that stuff. I wasn't fully aware of a cognizan enough. 90 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:09.720 Can you kind of talk about how you started your 91 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:12.079 investigation into who murdered Diana? 92 00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:15.199 Well, all had I had to self publish all of 93 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:17.759 these books. No one was going to publish these books. 94 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:20.040 And it's not because they're not worthy of being published. 95 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:24.199 It's because the major publishing houses are owned by the 96 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:27.000 same media conglomerates who have been lying to you about 97 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:30.600 these people's deaths for ages, so it's not of their 98 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:33.240 best interest to publish someone like me who comes around 99 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:36.959 and you know, and puts that out there. How I 100 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:41.240 went about this was, like I said, gathering as much 101 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:45.079 evidence as I could, things that people know, things that 102 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:48.040 people don't know, and just looking in different places. And 103 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:50.759 I was this book is really interesting, the Diana book. 104 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:57.839 Because my manuscript was done. I was all done. It 105 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:02.319 was all done, and I made a huge mistake which 106 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:06.319 I'll never do again. I put on social media my 107 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:09.560 next book is on Princess Diana will be out. Someone 108 00:06:09.600 --> 00:06:12.519 got a hold of me and saw it and got 109 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:15.319 a hold of me from France. Their mother died. She's 110 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:19.399 been investigating Princess Diana for ten years, and they said 111 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:22.560 do you want the information? And I'm like, oh, man, 112 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:25.319 do I really want to do this? So I said, yeah, sure, 113 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:28.319 send it along. And I'm thinking, yeah, this is this 114 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:31.199 is probably a nothing burger. So I get it in 115 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:35.920 the mail and it's loaded with information and pictures that 116 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:38.879 no one had. So I got back. I tried to 117 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:40.439 go back to them and tell them that I got 118 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:43.000 this information and who do I credit this with? And 119 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:45.399 you know, I try to, you know, cite my sources. 120 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:49.199 They were they were gone. The user has disappeared, which 121 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:53.040 was really bizarre. So I have information in my book 122 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:56.319 that I don't think anybody in the world has. I 123 00:06:56.360 --> 00:06:59.519 actually have pictures in there of people who were in 124 00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:03.879 the crowd and who were suspicious, who I think were 125 00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:08.240 involved in what happened. So there's a lot a lot 126 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:10.519 of information as to why this book is unique from 127 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:11.240 the others. 128 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:13.879 Right, and you have those two pictures. There was all 129 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:16.759 kinds of strange events, but who was Princess Diana, and 130 00:07:16.839 --> 00:07:20.040 why did she become a part of the royal She 131 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:22.120 was really royalty in England, right. 132 00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:26.560 Yeah, she's a fascinating person in history. I have to 133 00:07:26.600 --> 00:07:28.680 move There's a lot of dadda here, so I have 134 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:29.240 to move. 135 00:07:29.199 --> 00:07:32.399 Quick because it's kind of take time talking about the 136 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:35.279 background because then people can take that next step and 137 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:36.600 go get your book or audiobook. 138 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:40.879 Yeah, Princess Diana was a real interesting, interesting figure in 139 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:44.560 history if you go all the way back to like 140 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:50.199 thirteen twenty seven Edward the third King, Edward, like I 141 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:52.600 did because I'm a geek and I have to research things, 142 00:07:52.680 --> 00:07:56.560 you know, That's what I do. Princess Diana and Prince 143 00:07:56.639 --> 00:08:01.079 Charles were cousins, so she would grow up to marry 144 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:04.360 her cousin, which is kind of weird, like Roosevelt. You know, 145 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:07.040 this is what this was commonly done in royal blood lines. 146 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:10.560 And it can be argued that her bloodline was actually 147 00:08:10.600 --> 00:08:15.000 more royal than the royal families. So she comes up 148 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:18.800 the big misnomer that everybody says that you know, she 149 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:20.959 was a commoner and this and that, which is why 150 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:24.160 everybody was so intrigued by this this woman, and you know, 151 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:26.839 the fairy tale princess. She was not a commoner, not 152 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:31.639 even close her her father was the eighth Earl of Spencer. 153 00:08:32.320 --> 00:08:34.159 I mean, she was a Spencer. You can't get any 154 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:38.639 more royal in England than the Spencer's, you know she, 155 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:41.840 I mean, the royal family in the Spencers had known 156 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:46.000 each other for generations. So it just so happened that 157 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:49.759 when she came into being in the media that she 158 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:54.840 was you know, she was doing menial jobs because you know, 159 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:58.960 her mother had bought her a flat in London, and 160 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:01.399 of course that's when she's started courting Charles. So she 161 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:05.000 came into the media I be doing common things, but 162 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:09.159 she was by no means a commoner. So there was 163 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:12.080 a lot of psychological damage that was done to this 164 00:09:12.159 --> 00:09:17.159 poor woman when she was a child. She of course, 165 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:23.879 they all want boys to carry on the family name, okay, 166 00:09:23.960 --> 00:09:26.679 they carry on their monarchy of their lineage or whatever. 167 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:30.919 And the year before she was born, the family had 168 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:33.559 lost had lost a boy, they lost they had a 169 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:36.559 stillborn son. So when she came along a year later 170 00:09:36.639 --> 00:09:42.320 and she was a girl, she was completely unwanted and 171 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:44.600 they threw it up in her face. When she was 172 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:47.639 growing up, I can't imagine why anyone would put any 173 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:51.879 little girl through this mental abuse. That's just unspeakable. But 174 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:55.360 she grew up in that atmosphere and she had that 175 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:57.399 in the back, in the back of her head that 176 00:09:57.480 --> 00:10:00.000 you know, I've done something wrong because I'm not a book. 177 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:04.480 Really bizarre. So the family split, They have a divorce 178 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:07.480 and the mother went her own way, and her father 179 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:10.679 was a really nice man who had the means to 180 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:14.759 care for the children. At age nine, she goes up 181 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:18.559 to special schools, you know, to begin her education, and 182 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:24.039 she went from various different schools, finishing school included, and 183 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:27.559 she was just not a student. She just was not 184 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:30.519 a good student. And she ended up failing out and 185 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:33.840 doing this and doing that, and she finally ended up 186 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:39.159 where we first saw her, you know, doing common jobs. 187 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:43.720 So that's the background on her. She was the student, 188 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:47.440 she was the kind of the sibling in that family 189 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:49.480 who wanted to take care of all the other ones 190 00:10:49.960 --> 00:10:53.000 because the divorce was not a good one. Divorce never is. 191 00:10:53.159 --> 00:10:58.600 So that's the backdrop of her and that unwantedness emotionally 192 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:05.919 is what. But was her downfall with her marriage. She 193 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:09.639 gets so she's growing up and she goes to Prince 194 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:14.519 Charles was actually dating her sister, Sarah, which is a 195 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:17.360 bizarre twist. So not only are these people cousins, I 196 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:21.639 mean is you can't make this up, right, So he's 197 00:11:21.720 --> 00:11:25.080 dating Sarah, who either said something wrong in the media 198 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:27.240 or the media took it and ran with it, and 199 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:31.639 it tweaked the Queen's nose a little bit, and Sarah 200 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:36.519 was history quick. So here's Charles at thirty years old. 201 00:11:36.840 --> 00:11:39.200 And of course we have to have boys, right, because 202 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:42.080 that's what we do to carry on the monarchy. So 203 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:45.440 there's a lot of enormous pressure on Prince Charles to 204 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:49.200 sire children and keep this monarchy going. So he's at 205 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:54.919 thirty years old and the Spencer's The Spencer girls were 206 00:11:55.000 --> 00:12:00.240 perfect marrying material for royalty. They were raised right, were 207 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:05.039 all virgins, they were familiar to the royal family, so 208 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:13.000 I believe the Queen picked Diana. And of course, you know, 209 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:16.600 they knew each other well, which certainly helps. And of 210 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:20.799 course the courtship started. So when they married, he was 211 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:27.440 thirty two, she was twenty. So she's still kind of 212 00:12:27.440 --> 00:12:31.240 a naive little creature here, and she's got this scar 213 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:34.440 tissue in the back of her brain about being unwanted 214 00:12:34.440 --> 00:12:36.840 her whole life. So she's just blown off her feet. Wow, 215 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:39.759 you know, here's this. You know, I'm get to next 216 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:42.279 in line for queen. You know, she just fell hook 217 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:45.799 line and sinker in this. You know. This was the 218 00:12:45.799 --> 00:12:50.080 the Disney wedding, you know, the fairytale wedding that every 219 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:53.480 little girl wants, you know, and she. 220 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:56.440 Looked the part. I mean she had. I kind of 221 00:12:56.600 --> 00:12:59.679 feel like she outclasped Charles a lot in looks and 222 00:12:59.759 --> 00:13:02.600 her demeanor. And I think it started right there. But 223 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:05.399 Charles was still with this Parker Bulls woman. 224 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:05.759 Right. 225 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:08.519 A lot of people may not know that that relationship 226 00:13:08.879 --> 00:13:11.159 preceded his relationship with Diana, right. 227 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:14.480 Oh yeah, there was a woman in Charles's life. He 228 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:16.120 didn't care if he was married or not, because he 229 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:20.320 was involved with Camilla Parker Bulls, who he's married to now. 230 00:13:21.320 --> 00:13:25.200 And they started in nineteen seventy one. You know, they 231 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:30.720 started their relationship behind her husband's back, and the Queen 232 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:33.759 had a fit. The Queen had a fit about this, 233 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:36.600 and she trust she knew about it, and she tried 234 00:13:36.639 --> 00:13:39.440 to break She did everything to break these two up. 235 00:13:40.440 --> 00:13:43.480 She even sent him off to the military. So they 236 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:46.440 could get you know, they could be away from each other. 237 00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:49.000 And of course when he came back from the military, 238 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:51.759 you know, it didn't work very well. They just made 239 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:54.759 it for lost time. So here's Diana right, twenty years old, 240 00:13:55.679 --> 00:13:58.759 fantastic wedding and all these plans, and Charles was only 241 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:02.600 half he's you know in this, you know, she's whole hog. 242 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:08.440 He's still emotionally invested elsewhere. So there's a lot of 243 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:12.480 royal crotch swapping going on. And I know there's no 244 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:14.399 better way to put that, but that's what's going on. 245 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:20.159 So and she knew, Diana knows that he is two timing, 246 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:24.200 and Parker Bulls lets Diana know, right, so. 247 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:27.639 She kind of I think that she enjoyed tweaking Diana's nose, 248 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:31.320 but it didn't. It didn't happen. It didn't happen at first. 249 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:34.399 It happened a little further down the road, you know. 250 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:38.720 So you know they're they're engaged in February of eighty one, 251 00:14:38.879 --> 00:14:42.320 and they're married in July of July of eighty one. 252 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:45.720 And it was a fantastic wedding. He was wedding, you know, 253 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:46.919 I mean, it costs. 254 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:52.159 By millions of people, right, yeah. 255 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:53.279 Yes, fifty countries, seven hundred and fifty million people, and 256 00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:59.720 this is quite a wedding. So she well, we know 257 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:01.759 what happened. I mean they got divorced. She had they 258 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:05.320 had two, you know, two wonderful boys, and they ended 259 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:08.120 up she ended up getting divorced. And she had a 260 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:12.919 slew of uh of boyfriends here and there, and I 261 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:15.240 won't go into that, it's covered in the book. And 262 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:18.039 it got to the point where I don't care what 263 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:20.039 kind of government you run. It doesn't matter to me 264 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:22.120 if you're a communist or what you are. You want 265 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:26.519 complacent people. You don't want uprisings. It is not in 266 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:29.600 any government's best interest. And when this split was going 267 00:15:29.639 --> 00:15:34.120 on between Diana and Charles, the tabloids were having a 268 00:15:34.159 --> 00:15:36.799 field day in England and around the world as well, 269 00:15:36.799 --> 00:15:42.519 but in England specifically, there were people taking sides and 270 00:15:42.600 --> 00:15:46.480 this was not good for the royal family. So the 271 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:49.519 Queen finally had had enough. I mean, the royal family 272 00:15:49.559 --> 00:15:52.759 only does a handful of things. They keep the monarchy 273 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:57.879 going with boys, They appear ceremoniously as dignitaries, and you know, 274 00:15:57.919 --> 00:16:00.919 they keep themselves to a chokingly high st and they 275 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:03.559 stay away from people. That's the three or four things 276 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:06.519 that they do well. You can't maintain this stature in 277 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:10.480 the world and have this chokingly high standard of conduct 278 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:12.679 when all of this is going on in the media. 279 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:14.639 So the Queen gets involved and said, that's that you 280 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:17.120 guys are going to divorce. I think it's the first 281 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:21.600 time in history it's ever happened. So they have rules, 282 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:24.039 they have very very old rules that they run their 283 00:16:24.039 --> 00:16:26.440 monarchy by, and this they were not going to let 284 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:31.159 this black eye happen. So they divorce. Diana goes through 285 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:36.440 a period where she's extraordinarily depressed, tries to kill herself. 286 00:16:36.879 --> 00:16:41.000 All of this came out later through multiple authors. A 287 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:44.080 lot of great researchers before me came into this. The 288 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:47.120 reason my book is different is because I'm the only 289 00:16:47.840 --> 00:16:50.559 American researcher in this. I don't look at it through 290 00:16:50.559 --> 00:16:53.600 the lens of the royal family. So my research is 291 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:58.120 so she's trying to reinvent herself. She goes to this 292 00:16:58.200 --> 00:17:03.519 period we she hates herself and under and she's trying 293 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:11.880 to reinvent herself using causes. And the first cause that 294 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:16.200 she got involved in was the ran contrary to the 295 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:21.480 interests of the pharmaceutical industry. Okay, AIDS is the big thing, 296 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:26.160 and she's trying to raise awareness for this AIDS cause, 297 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:29.920 and she's trying to be kind of like a supermodel 298 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:34.799 slash mother Teresa for the whole world, right, which is 299 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:37.599 a lofty ambition. She did a pretty good job of 300 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:41.279 it ended up costing her life. But this is the 301 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:44.400 first suspect that I entered in was the pharmaceutical industry. 302 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:47.960 And here's why they're trying very very hard at this 303 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:49.759 point in time to come up with a vaccine that 304 00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:53.680 they could sell to multiple countries. And if you want 305 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:56.119 to sell a vaccine, you have to have fear. That's 306 00:17:56.160 --> 00:17:59.400 a tremendous component in selling a vaccine. It has to 307 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:03.880 be worthy of buying. Okay. So at the time, the 308 00:18:05.119 --> 00:18:08.759 common thought was, you can't touch AIDS patients, you can't 309 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:10.559 do this, You can't do that. You know, we have 310 00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:13.599 to have this vaccine in these medications and so forth. Well, 311 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:17.680 here she is going around the world holding babies who 312 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:22.839 have AIDS and having physical contact with AIDS patients. And 313 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:25.160 of course this was a different time. We know different 314 00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:28.039 about this now, but we didn't then. So here she 315 00:18:28.359 --> 00:18:36.160 is actually undoing the pharmaceutical industries bidding. They're trying to 316 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:38.960 promote the fear, so they get the vaccine out and everything, 317 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:42.519 and she's running around, running contrary to there, to their wishes. 318 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:47.960 So she's costing them millions and millions of dollars. And 319 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:51.160 they were not her friend. So the first suspect I 320 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:56.599 entered in the book was a pharmaceutical industry. Okay, So 321 00:18:56.680 --> 00:19:01.880 she realizes from here, you know, I'm starting to get 322 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:07.359 some threats. She's been getting death threats for years, and 323 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:12.720 she's gonna latch onto another another cause, and this was 324 00:19:13.960 --> 00:19:17.119 a land mine ban around the world. She just couldn't 325 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:22.400 believe that after these countries were at war, their land 326 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:24.559 mines are still in the ground and these people are 327 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:27.279 just toodling upon these things and getting blown up, which 328 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:29.599 is kind of horrible. I can't I can't disagree with her. 329 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:37.000 So she attaches herself to this cause, and it's officially 330 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:41.920 called the ICBL, the International Campaign to Ban Landmines, and 331 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:46.640 it's it's grabbing a lot of attention. So she's going 332 00:19:46.680 --> 00:19:53.880 around the world. I'm seeing people are chiming in here. 333 00:19:53.920 --> 00:19:55.680 It's kind of funny, but. 334 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:59.200 She's going around but very prominently right so she her 335 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:02.599 public relations. She's very high and I think you point 336 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:05.599 down in your book she was really an influencer before 337 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:08.119 they had that term of on the internet, like she 338 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:09.799 was really a mega influencer. 339 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:13.440 She was it. She could she she could manipulate the 340 00:20:13.480 --> 00:20:17.240 media like no person in the world could manipulate the media. 341 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:20.400 And it was a double edged sword. She could whatever 342 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:23.119 she wanted, whatever causes she wanted to do. She could 343 00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:26.680 snap her fingers on hand global media attention. The problem 344 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:29.839 was you couldn't turn it off, so they would show 345 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:32.680 up at times where they didn't want She didn't you know, 346 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:38.359 want them. So July of ninety six, she's on this 347 00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:41.759 anti landmine campaign and hard too. So she's going to 348 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:46.240 Angola and she's of course she's got full media coverage 349 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:51.599 there because she wants this ban, and you know, there's 350 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:53.319 a lot of countries on board with us, and she's 351 00:20:53.359 --> 00:20:58.200 gonna spearhead this. So she's she's seen with you know, 352 00:20:58.200 --> 00:21:00.319 people who were missing arms and legs, and it was 353 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:05.920 really gut wrenching that this could happen. So here she 354 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:08.880 starts getting real threats and this didn't come out. We 355 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:12.119 didn't know this came out afterwards there's a man named 356 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:15.200 Alan McGregor who's out there, who I tried to interview 357 00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:18.480 as hard as a person could try. I hired three 358 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:21.440 private detectives to find this guy who I could interview him, 359 00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:24.440 and I couldn't find them. He was in charge of 360 00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:28.160 her security when she traveled abroad, and she got threatened 361 00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:30.279 to the point where they had to pay one hundred 362 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:36.440 million pounds dollars to us and just to you know, 363 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:39.759 keep them from attacking her and taking her hostage and 364 00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:43.000 killing her in Angola. So there are real threats here. 365 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:47.519 So I think you said in your book, like the 366 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:50.559 six months before she died, what was the actual date 367 00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:53.480 of her death was thirty first of August nineteen ninety seven, 368 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:57.839 the six months they were talking about potential assassination of her. 369 00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:01.279 So it was on the minds of people surrounding including her. 370 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:05.759 Yeah, absolutely it was. So she goes into now this 371 00:22:05.880 --> 00:22:08.839 is this is Angola, and now we're into August and 372 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:13.960 she's in Bosnia and yeah, she's in Bosnia August eighteenth, 373 00:22:13.960 --> 00:22:16.559 and she's doing the same thing. You know, She's out 374 00:22:16.599 --> 00:22:20.720 there creating this big media stir and it's running contrary 375 00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:25.000 to the international arms brokers you know, look, we need 376 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:26.920 to come to the realization of the fact that there 377 00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:30.359 are bad people in this world. Most of us wouldn't 378 00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:33.079 harm a fly, but there are bad people out there, 379 00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:36.720 and there are countries on this planet whose entire gross 380 00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:41.640 national product revolves around on the sale of arms, legally 381 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:47.400 or illegally. So she doesn't really understand that she's trying 382 00:22:47.440 --> 00:22:51.920 to get this arms this there's a small arms band 383 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:55.880 coming after the anti landmine campaign, so I mean she 384 00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:59.160 had one hundred countries involved in this thing in June 385 00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:02.279 of ninety seven. This was a serious thing. She doesn't 386 00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:06.680 really fully understand that she's upsetting the balance of the 387 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:10.359 monetary system and power in the world because this is 388 00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:14.960 now global finance involved in these arms brokers. So this 389 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:17.519 is the second the second people who I entered in 390 00:23:17.559 --> 00:23:21.240 first aspects were international arms brokers, so they were not 391 00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:25.039 her friend. What's so special about the information I got 392 00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:31.720 from France is at the Builderberg conference that year. It 393 00:23:31.759 --> 00:23:34.279 was the forty fifth conference of the builder Burgers on 394 00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:37.839 the twelfth through the fifteenth of June. One of the 395 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:42.480 people who was at the Builderberg meeting actually gave they 396 00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:48.359 overheard two three people involved in a conversation planning her death, 397 00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:52.000 and it gives all of the detail of who was 398 00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:54.960 involved in what they said and everything, and you know, 399 00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:59.519 lo and behold, it was just it was forty days 400 00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:02.279 afterwards that she was dead, you know, right, So. 401 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:05.359