WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:01.960 Baby, you're a gangstato. 2 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:06.599 It takes a little tangle. You don't mess with me. 3 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:14.960 Mess with me, baby, you're a gangstat Oh pouch baby, 4 00:00:15.039 --> 00:00:16.359 you're a game statoo. 5 00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:26.800 For the warners, this podcast is designed to take you 6 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:29.839 outside of your comfort zone and make you question reality 7 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:31.440 Listening discretion. 8 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:39.640 Is a vibe the fellas. 9 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:44.640 This ain't my first time at the rodeos. 10 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:55.799 Mhm. 11 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:16.480 Unfortunately this week my partner in crime JJ Vance, not 12 00:01:17.239 --> 00:01:20.480 jd Vance to be confused with him. Neither one of 13 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:25.359 them will be joining us tonight. But fortunately, lucky me, 14 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:27.079 I was able to grab some people to come on 15 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:29.640 with me and try to make this a worthy episode 16 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:30.680 without JJ here. 17 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:34.439 So I got the man scientist herself. 18 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:36.840 Lisa from the Cult Rejects. Thank you very much, Lisa, 19 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:40.599 it's good to have you here. And I got my boy, 20 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:43.560 Catalyst Jones kind of like co hosting with us tonight 21 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:48.000 from White Rabbit Podcast. Real Quick, Catalyst, you want to 22 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:50.760 let everybody know what your deal is and where they 23 00:01:50.799 --> 00:01:51.280 can find you. 24 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:55.599 Yeah, man, I'm just your average guy that had questions 25 00:01:55.640 --> 00:01:58.040 and started digging into things and wanted to speak out 26 00:01:58.040 --> 00:02:00.280 about it. So you can find me on all of 27 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:02.000 your usual suspects. 28 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:04.239 Awesome, Thank you very much. 29 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:10.080 And for tonight the guest of honor, backed by popular demand, 30 00:02:10.719 --> 00:02:15.319 we got Julia Cosmic Peach Podcast. Please Julia, introduce yourself 31 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:16.719 for the people who me and I know who you are, 32 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:18.960 and let every know where they can find your amazing work. 33 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:22.639 Thank you, and I'm excited to be back. I love 34 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:26.319 coming on your show. I'm Julia, I host Cosmic Peach 35 00:02:26.360 --> 00:02:31.759 Podcast is wherever you listen to podcasts, not YouTube. And yeah, 36 00:02:31.879 --> 00:02:36.919 I think you know. I started actually podcasting because I 37 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:39.159 read a lot of books and wanted to talk to 38 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:42.759 people about them because people don't like to read books anymore. 39 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:45.560 And that's the first thing that we covered with Program 40 00:02:45.639 --> 00:02:49.560 to Kill. And then I read a book about Marilyn 41 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:52.520 and we've covered that already and actually what we're going 42 00:02:52.599 --> 00:02:55.240 to talk about today you can find in Program to Kill. 43 00:02:56.400 --> 00:02:59.599 And also I just did a bunch of like research 44 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:05.360 on this after I read about this guy and I 45 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:09.159 think Lisa has Actually it was in the news or 46 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:11.199 something like that, and you were familiar with it. Two, 47 00:03:11.240 --> 00:03:13.560 So I'm actually really excited to get into it today. 48 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:17.319 Well yeah, no, I guess I was very excited and 49 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:20.360 I know Lisa really wanted you to come on for 50 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:23.280 this topic as well. And again, just just to make 51 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:25.080 it clear, you did say you got this from the 52 00:03:25.080 --> 00:03:26.000 Program to Kill book. 53 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:29.240 Yeah, yeah. And what I love the most about that 54 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:32.240 book is because he puts all of his references in 55 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:35.759 the back of the book, and there's pages and pages 56 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:38.879 of references. And when I do a podcast, I like 57 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:43.639 to try to give people some type of place where 58 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:46.159 they can go and fact check me if they want to. 59 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:48.599 And so, if you want more information about what we're 60 00:03:48.599 --> 00:03:53.039 talking about tonight, it's actually chapter nine of Program to Kill. 61 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:58.120 It's called Rancho Diablo. So fucking fact check me, assholes. 62 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:02.319 Look it up, right, yeah, which is also why when 63 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:04.680 we did the Marilyn episode, I mentioned at the end 64 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:06.719 of the episode, this is the book. Go read it 65 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:09.240 for yourself. I'm not making any of this stuff up. 66 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:14.120 It's very easy to find, and I just wanted to 67 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:16.959 just oh, yeah, no, no, I mean, but I do 68 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:19.800 feel like sometimes, you know, you listen to a podcast 69 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:21.680 and in the back of your mind, you're like, is 70 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:23.879 that even real? Was does she even know what she's 71 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:26.600 talking about? I've never heard that before. And I like 72 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:29.439 to list my sites, you know, in case somebody wants 73 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:32.600 to go back and fact checked me or whatever. But 74 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:34.800 we're actually gonna gek its. 75 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:37.399 What I love about your show, Julia. I love about 76 00:04:37.399 --> 00:04:40.560 your shows. You always bring your receipts right, so you 77 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:43.639 say how you came to your conclusion, but yet you 78 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:48.079 also come to conclusions that normally people would overlook or 79 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:51.360 not not come to, because you're one of those people 80 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:54.480 that connects dots that get overlooked on the norm. And 81 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:57.000 I would like to congratulate you for that. 82 00:04:57.879 --> 00:04:59.879 Thank you, and I'm glad you noticed that. And I 83 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:02.800 actually Lisa was the one who asked, I think if 84 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:06.879 if I could cover this today because I mentioned names, 85 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:09.480 and I mentioned like little fragments of stuff, and I 86 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:11.560 feel like sometimes you know you hear it and it's 87 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:13.360 like in one ear and out the other. But she 88 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:16.560 picked up on this guy and it's, like I said before, 89 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:20.040 he's his own episode. He might actually be two episodes 90 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:24.639 worth of crazy. And his name is Adolpho Constanzo. I 91 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:27.279 don't know, Catalyst, if you had ever heard of this guy, 92 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:32.519 but he is a whole fucking I mean, I like 93 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:37.720 to call him a Dolpho cunt Stanzo, but he is 94 00:05:37.920 --> 00:05:42.519 just the weirdest guy, the cult leader, and you know, 95 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:50.079 he was a Mexican drug lord that was believed to 96 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:54.199 have supernatural powers. Actually, and so Lisa, I don't before 97 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:56.959 I get on my soapbox, I actually wanted to ask 98 00:05:57.000 --> 00:05:59.680 you what your background is on Adolpho. 99 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:04.920 So I listened to I was listening to your PTK 100 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:09.720 series and you had briefly mentioned his name on I 101 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:12.720 think the first episode that you covered PTK and just 102 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:15.680 in passing and when you said his name, I remember 103 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:17.399 I was standing in the bathrooms in my makeup and 104 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:19.480 I was like, I like stared at the phone. I 105 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:22.800 was like, don't tell me that guy's in that book. 106 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:26.720 Because so growing up, I grew up in Texas, South Texas, 107 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:30.639 to be exact. And one of the popular things here 108 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:32.879 to do in spring break is to go to the 109 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:35.680 island Padre Island, right and it gets so packed with 110 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:38.639 so many people. Everybody from New York, Pennsylvania, California, everybody 111 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:40.879 comes down here to come to the island during spring break. 112 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:45.279 It's a big deal, specifically South Padre. And so South 113 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:48.800 Padre is literally right at the cusp of the Mexican border, 114 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:51.759 and one of the famous things to do or one 115 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:55.160 of the most fun things to do was to cross 116 00:06:55.160 --> 00:06:59.959 into Renosa or Progresso or Matamotos, depending where you're at 117 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:04.079 right Mata Mootas is going to be the area that's 118 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:07.600 the closest to South Padre Island, and so what people 119 00:07:07.639 --> 00:07:09.399 would do is that they would go party all day 120 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:12.399 at the island, and then in the evenings they just 121 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:16.560 basically walk over into Matamotos and get drunk and do 122 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:20.360 all what kinds of whatever. I think in Mexico at 123 00:07:20.399 --> 00:07:22.839 the time, and I think it's still the way there was. 124 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:25.040 The legal age was eighteen, but I don't think they 125 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:27.639 really checked or whatever, and you keep drinking all day 126 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:30.319 and all night and whatever, and it was a fun 127 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:33.800 thing for people to do. And then you started to 128 00:07:33.839 --> 00:07:37.680 hear on the news that people were going missing and 129 00:07:37.720 --> 00:07:42.519 then that there was a search, and then they would 130 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:45.079 announce do not go into Mexico. If you're going to 131 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:47.519 go to the island, stay on the stay on the 132 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:51.920 US side, do not go into Mexico. And then it 133 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:54.680 came about that there was I think a ut student 134 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:59.560 which University of Texas went missing, and then I believe 135 00:07:59.639 --> 00:08:03.240 there was a huge investigation down into Matamoros and that 136 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:08.360 they had uncovered several bodies and that from what I 137 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:10.560 had heard, and of course the news didn't cover this, 138 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:13.000 was that they were bodies that were mutilated. They were 139 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:16.920 all kinds of like remnants of ritual sacrifice of some 140 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:21.319 sort death cold, satan cold, whatever, and it was really 141 00:08:21.319 --> 00:08:23.600 really bad, and that it wasn't just one person that 142 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:25.319 they found, but they at the time they had said 143 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:28.160 it was five, but there was many others that they 144 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:33.120 had found in other I guess sites or burial sites, 145 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:36.000 and that there was a house and that there was 146 00:08:36.159 --> 00:08:38.600 body parts and a cauldron and stuff like that. And 147 00:08:38.679 --> 00:08:40.679 so you started to hear all these things. You don't 148 00:08:40.720 --> 00:08:42.799 know what's true, right because it's on the other side 149 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:44.919 and this is what's being told and the news really 150 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:47.360 isn't covering, but they're telling you not to go down there. 151 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:51.360 But then whenever it kind of blew up, this name 152 00:08:51.399 --> 00:08:53.399 starts coming out and you start to hear it all 153 00:08:53.440 --> 00:08:54.919 over the place. You're like, oh, my god, that was 154 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:57.200 the guy that was back then when they were telling 155 00:08:57.279 --> 00:09:01.320 us not to go into Mexico. So that was my 156 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:04.440 background with that. So when you said the name, I 157 00:09:04.480 --> 00:09:04.759 was like. 158 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:11.480 No, dude, And it's crazy because he's mentioned in Programmed 159 00:09:11.559 --> 00:09:15.320 to Kill, but he also got his own episode on 160 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:19.200 Ancient Aliens. Like there's so many ways that you can 161 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:23.120 cover this guy. Like it's just bizarre, it's otherworldly what 162 00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:27.879 was going on there. And I think that actually the 163 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:30.960 way that they portrayed it in the news was like 164 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:33.759 a lot of the serial killers and stuff. How they 165 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:37.960 it was nineteen eighty nine, by the way, in Mexico, 166 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:41.679 they started searching for a missing college student and then 167 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:49.440 they found this ranch. It was called uh Santa Elena Ranch, 168 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:56.240 and so the missing college student that they were looking for. 169 00:09:56.320 --> 00:09:58.919 His name was Mark Kilroy. It was a dude. He 170 00:09:59.039 --> 00:10:02.840 was twenty one years old. Party in like Lisa mentioned, 171 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:05.320 it was like a party spot. And then they go 172 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:08.799 looking for him and they come across this ranch and 173 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:14.519 they find twelve bodies at first, and some of them 174 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:17.279 have been shot, some of them have been hacked up 175 00:10:17.320 --> 00:10:22.120 with a machete. One of the graves did have Mark 176 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:25.039 Kilroy's body in it, so he was abducted. They did 177 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:29.320 murder him. A lot of them had like their spines 178 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:34.159 ripped out and made into necklaces and other ceremonial type 179 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:37.840 of jewelry. Some of them had been skinned alive, some 180 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:41.399 of them had been buried alive. But the weird thing 181 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:47.399 about him is that Adolfo's followers wholeheartedly believed that he 182 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:52.399 had supernatural powers. And so this is what gets him 183 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:55.440 on Ancient Aliens because a lot of the stuff that 184 00:10:55.519 --> 00:10:58.320 he was doing and saying, and a lot of the 185 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:03.320 stuff that people saw him doing was actually what they 186 00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:09.080 considered to be supernatural in nature. And they don't talk 187 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:12.639 about this aspect in Program to Kill. He more talks 188 00:11:12.639 --> 00:11:15.200 about like the political side of things, because they made 189 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:17.480 it appear in the news that this was random acts 190 00:11:17.480 --> 00:11:20.600 of violence, that this guy was just a crazy Satanist 191 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:24.559 guy and he was just abducting random people and just 192 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:27.639 fucking them up and burying them all over his property. 193 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:31.039 But it actually turns out that a lot of the 194 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:33.879 people that they found it wasn't random at all. And 195 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:37.399 I'm actually gonna kind of get into that too, but 196 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:42.399 it's said in total they found forty plus bodies on 197 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:45.639 the property. So the news didn't even really want to 198 00:11:45.759 --> 00:11:48.200 report that. At first. It was like, oh, they found 199 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:50.759 a couple bodies, and then it was like, okay, we 200 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:53.879 found twelve graves, and then by the end of it, 201 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:57.600 they were like, okay, there's probably forty plus victims that 202 00:11:57.679 --> 00:12:03.279 have been buried at this ranch. And he was practicing 203 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:07.120 something called palo sorcery. I don't know if you guys 204 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:10.960 are familiar with that at all. Holomiamba is it's also 205 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:16.679 referred to and so it incorporates traditions and gods from 206 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:24.559 West African religions actually, and Adolfo claimed that he was 207 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:30.120 in communication with a god named Kadium Pimbe I think 208 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:35.000 is how you pronounce it. And this god is also 209 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:40.240 known as issue E Shu. And this is something that 210 00:12:40.360 --> 00:12:44.480 I had never heard before, and it was mentioned actually 211 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:49.559 in the Ancient Aliens. And it was funny because sometimes 212 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:52.159 I'll just watch Ancient Aliens to like go to sleep 213 00:12:52.600 --> 00:13:00.200 because it, first of all, it's a lot of propaganda stuff, right, Yeah, 214 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:01.879 It's like, oh, I'm going to clean the house and 215 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:04.919 like fucking wash dishes and shit. I'll put on Ancient 216 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:07.399 Aliens in the background or whatever, and. 217 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:10.759 So surprised how much truth they sprinkle in there, though, 218 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:14.159 Like if you take out did you check out Aliens? 219 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:17.919 If you take out Aliens and outer space and replace 220 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:21.840 it with Nephelum and outer space it all makes a 221 00:13:21.840 --> 00:13:22.720 lot of sense. 222 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:26.200 Right, Yeah, Like if you just swap out the the 223 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:30.759 ets for like ancient gods and like black magic sorcery shit, 224 00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:34.200 it makes a ton of sense. But so it was like, 225 00:13:34.279 --> 00:13:36.320 I don't know. A couple months ago, I had turned 226 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:39.840 on Ancient Aliens and they were like Adolfo Constanzo, and 227 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:42.320 I was like, it's a motherfucker in Program to Kill. 228 00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:44.759 I was like, how the fuck is he an Ancient 229 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:49.600 Aliens episode? But so it's because his followers and he 230 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:53.720 said that he was in direct communication with this cootium 231 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:58.919 Pimbe and that he was practicing palo sorcery. And when 232 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:02.000 you look at this guy, he has like the big 233 00:14:02.039 --> 00:14:06.559 elongated eyes and the big skull and shit. And they 234 00:14:06.600 --> 00:14:09.679 say that he was worshiping some type of god that 235 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:12.600 would have been like Aconoate and in ancient Egypt with 236 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:17.200 the big elongated skull and shit. And some say that 237 00:14:17.320 --> 00:14:21.000 he was into like this fallen angel type of god 238 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:26.120 king worship. And so he gets his own episode on 239 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:29.679 Ancient Aliens and I look into this shit because I'm interested, 240 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:35.919 and it's actually a shape shifter god. And you know 241 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:38.519 how they love to talk about shape shifters and all 242 00:14:38.559 --> 00:14:44.600 this stuff, and they'll actually sensationalize this stuff because if 243 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:47.360 they can get you to look at just the black 244 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:51.000 magic aspect of these murders, then they don't have to 245 00:14:51.080 --> 00:14:55.679 explain any of the inconsistencies with like who they were 246 00:14:56.279 --> 00:15:00.399 murdering and like what who was running the cult and 247 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:05.399 some shit like that. And I actually, just for those 248 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:08.679 of you who are familiar, have you guys watched American 249 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:10.399 Horror Story season Covin. 250 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:13.879 No, it's. 251 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:16.039 Not that season. 252 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:19.639 It's my favorite season. It's the one about the witches 253 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:26.159 in New Orleans and really, Nick, it's the best season 254 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:29.639 in my opinion for some of the more conspiracy type stuff. 255 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:33.159 But they have like a god in that season that 256 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:35.480 the witches kind of work with, and his name is 257 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:39.240 Papa Legba. But he's based off this god that Adolfo 258 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:43.919 Constansa actually worshiping. So it it to me it just 259 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:50.720 seemed a little interesting. Yeah, they say, like this god, 260 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:55.440 this Kattiam, Pimbe, issue, Papa Legba, they all represent like 261 00:15:55.519 --> 00:16:00.200 the same archetype, if you will, And they say that 262 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:06.639 actually this this one deity that Adolpho was worshiping, like 263 00:16:06.799 --> 00:16:11.000 to speak to people through dogs, and they actually connected 264 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:14.080 that with David Berkowitz because they said he would get 265 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:17.279 his messages through dogs and stuff like that, and David 266 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:20.799 Berkowitz comes up a lot in Program to Kill. So 267 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:24.480 I think that there is a duality to everything. I 268 00:16:24.519 --> 00:16:27.440 think that there is a spiritual duality and also like 269 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:31.360 a governmental kind of I don't think that those two 270 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:33.679 things have to be separate. I think that they're very 271 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:37.399 much enmeshed with each other. So yeah, I do. When 272 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:39.480 I look at this case, I do see a lot 273 00:16:39.519 --> 00:16:42.840 of like how ancient Aliens was trying to depict it 274 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:46.559 and being like a spiritual thing with black magic. But 275 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:49.440 I also look at it from the perspective that David 276 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:52.720 McGowan was writing about in Program to Kill, where it's like, yeah, 277 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:55.679 it's spiritual. But also like, look at the type of 278 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:59.240 people that they were abducting. They're all like ex police 279 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:03.639 officers in like DEA agents and FBI agents, Like this 280 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:09.519 isn't random, They're they're choosing their victims very specifically and 281 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:12.000 kind of like what we were talking about in our 282 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:17.160 Maryland episode. Adolpho was arrested in August, and there is 283 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:22.799 a lot of eights that are around Adolpho they say 284 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:25.400 that he had only killed eight victims. It turned out 285 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:27.319 to be a lot more, but that's the first number 286 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:30.440 they came out with, and then he was arrested in August, 287 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:37.079 so there was like a double eight there. Here's huh, dude. 288 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:39.640 I think that the eight is super significant when you 289 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:43.240 see it popping up like and specifically with stuff like 290 00:17:43.279 --> 00:17:45.400 this too. It's just weird. 291 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:51.039 But well, in occultism, it is in reference to the infinity, right, 292 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:52.680 the magician too. 293 00:17:52.759 --> 00:18:01.160 Yeah, sure, and he is a magician of sorts, right, so. 294 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:03.519 Eight even that you get like, h and you know, 295 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:06.559 we talked about this later, but he is looking at 296 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:09.759 some of the stuff. I believe. One of the claims 297 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:14.759 was that the Padrino that he studied under adult fool 298 00:18:14.839 --> 00:18:18.400 did as a kid, that he locked him in with 299 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:21.279 that deity, the one that you just mentioned, that he 300 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:24.359 performed all these rituals in order to bind him to 301 00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:29.279 that deity, and he was the one that like I 302 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:32.119 think when he was and even the way he was 303 00:18:32.119 --> 00:18:35.119 born to and you covered this so well, the way 304 00:18:35.160 --> 00:18:38.799 he was born is just very questionable, but that that 305 00:18:38.920 --> 00:18:42.640 priest basically said, this child is chosen, He's the one 306 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:45.359 He's going to be powerful, like it's just all this 307 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:48.319 like I don't know, Well. 308 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:52.359 It reminds me because a lot of these Satanists are generational, right, 309 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:56.359 And so I talked about it with Henry Lee Lucas 310 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:59.720 and Otis Tool in the Program to Kill episode where 311 00:18:59.720 --> 00:19:02.920 they said that their parents, their mothers, dressed them as 312 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:06.680 girls and they were kind of like involved in generational Satanism. 313 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:11.799 And Adolpho was born into generational Satanism. His mother was 314 00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:17.319 something of a high priestess and he worked with this 315 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:21.279 other guy, I think it was in Puerto Rico, who, 316 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:24.160 like you said, kind of blessed him and was he 317 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:26.960 was under this guy's like tutelage or whatever, trying to 318 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:31.279 become a master fucking Satanist. And I'll look at this 319 00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:35.160 eighty eight piano keys, look at all of that shit, 320 00:19:35.240 --> 00:19:38.079 the Dolorean. Oh yeah, I gun it to eighty eight. 321 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:42.119 Fucking I love the future. I think it's actually got 322 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:46.440 a lot of conspiracy stuff in it. But anyways, here's 323 00:19:46.480 --> 00:19:49.759 the kicker, because you can't separate the Satanism from the 324 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:53.839 governmental stuff. Because he served in the United States Army 325 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:57.000 in the sixties, just like a lot of our serial killers, 326 00:19:58.079 --> 00:20:00.720 and he claims that while he was in the army, 327 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:04.720 he had been initiated into a violent Satanic cult that 328 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:09.279 orchestrated these incidents as part of a ritual murder, just 329 00:20:09.359 --> 00:20:13.759 like Henry Lee Lucas said, and otis tool. But on 330 00:20:13.880 --> 00:20:18.279 top of that, like BTK, the Zodiac Killer, Jack the Ripper, 331 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:22.599 and Adolpho Constanzo, they all end up writing letters to 332 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:27.519 the police. And it's almost like there's this interesting connection 333 00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:33.799 between uh, programmed serial killers. I'm including Adolpho in that, 334 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:39.720 and the police and or military style shit. And it's 335 00:20:39.759 --> 00:20:42.720 just interesting to me that there's this aspect of him 336 00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:45.839 writing letters to the police. They could have known about 337 00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:48.240 this guy and stopped him a long time ago, but 338 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:52.000 they didn't, just like the Zodiac, just like BTK, just 339 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:55.279 like Jack the Ripper took it takes them forever if 340 00:20:55.319 --> 00:20:58.759 they even find out who this who these people are. 341 00:20:58.799 --> 00:21:01.200 They never fucking find found out who Jack the Ripper 342 00:21:01.279 --> 00:21:04.079 or the Zodiac was. But here's all these letters right 343 00:21:04.200 --> 00:21:10.039 written to the police. And so I do think that 344 00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:16.000 he's saying that he's basically like a government employee. He 345 00:21:16.440 --> 00:21:19.480 was in the military. He does have this background of 346 00:21:19.519 --> 00:21:23.359 being a Satanist. He was born into generational Satanism because 347 00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:29.160 his mother was fucking batshit crazy. But I think it's 348 00:21:29.160 --> 00:21:33.640 safe to say like he's a lot like the other 349 00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:40.599 cast of characters with the ritualism and the governmental stuff 350 00:21:41.119 --> 00:21:46.400 and being protected from on high because one of the 351 00:21:46.519 --> 00:21:50.599 more compelling aspects of Henry Lee Lucas's story was his 352 00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:56.920 contention that he had ties to cult run ranches that 353 00:21:57.079 --> 00:22:00.839 were just south of the US border, Okay, and then boom, 354 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:05.559 out of nowhere, in nineteen eighty nine, this ranch, Adolpho's Ranch, 355 00:22:05.720 --> 00:22:12.039 was discovered just south of Brownsville, Texas, Okay, and Adolpho 356 00:22:12.119 --> 00:22:15.359 is saying he was inducted into a military Satanic cult, 357 00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:18.519 just like Henry Lee Lucas said he was. And I 358 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:22.240 don't think that that is a coincidence. Henry Lee Lucas 359 00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:27.599 is saying there are cult run ranches that are inducting 360 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:31.000 people to become almost like cult leaders, and they're murdering 361 00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:33.519 a bunch of people, and then all of a sudden 362 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:38.279 we find Adolpho's ranch, and it matches the exact description 363 00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:41.200 that Henry Lee Lucas took a map and he said 364 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:43.319 he marked a next and he said, there's a ranch 365 00:22:43.400 --> 00:22:46.839 right here, there's a ranch right here, You'll find dead 366 00:22:46.839 --> 00:22:48.960 bodies all over the place. And they were like, Okay, 367 00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:53.759 Henry fucking made a net Flakes documentary saying, oh, Henry 368 00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:58.440 the confession killer couldn't possibly have been he couldn't possibly 369 00:22:58.480 --> 00:23:01.119 have known all this stuff. But yet somehow he was 370 00:23:01.160 --> 00:23:03.440 able to lead them right to these fucking ranches where 371 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:08.920 all these dead people were. And more than half of 372 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:14.440 Adolpho's cult members and priestesses were from Brownsville, Texas. They 373 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:18.160 weren't uh Mexican, and you know a lot of people 374 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:20.720 say that, oh, well, they were just crazy Mexican people, 375 00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:24.079 and they were all part of They were from Brownsville, Texas. 376 00:23:24.160 --> 00:23:27.039 And most of them went to Southmost Texas College and 377 00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:31.640 were majoring in law enforcement, so they were Americans. They 378 00:23:31.640 --> 00:23:34.799 were educated. I don't know how the fuck they got 379 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:37.839 involved in that, But here they show up Adolpho's fucking 380 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:41.319 compound in the middle of fucking Mexico, murdering people and 381 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:43.519 burying them alive, and shit, I mean, it's. 382 00:23:43.480 --> 00:23:47.319 Just do you think they do you think that they 383 00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:50.559 were possibly clockwork ultred? 384 00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:54.720 I do I think that they were, because here's the thing, right. 385 00:23:54.839 --> 00:23:58.799 But specifically sent out there though, to be underneath him. 386 00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:03.880 Yeah, I think a lot like Charles Manson, that these 387 00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:08.440 family members weren't chosen at random. And I actually have 388 00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:10.680 a quote right here in my notes that I'm gonna 389 00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:16.519 read you guys, because Adolpho was described as quote a 390 00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:22.599 thoroughly ruthless and benevolent genius with a messianic ability to 391 00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:26.759 command the loyalty and blind obedience of his followers who 392 00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:32.240 joined him. The followers were in a zombie like state 393 00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:37.480 with a loathsome blood feast of dope, dealing torture, terror, 394 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:43.039 and human sacrifice, quote unquote, which is exactly how they 395 00:24:43.119 --> 00:24:49.039 described Manson and his family members as being in a 396 00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:54.640 zombie like and what the dope dealing terror, torture and 397 00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:58.319 human sacrifice. That's it. Just it literally sounds like he's 398 00:24:58.359 --> 00:25:00.680 like Manson two point zero and he he's got these 399 00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:05.599 people out there doing god knows what. They probably fucked 400 00:25:05.640 --> 00:25:09.440 with their minds enough to send them over to him, 401 00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:12.279