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<v Speaker 1>Baby, you're my game statue. It takes a little tangle.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Mess with me. Mess with me baby a gangstat.

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<v Speaker 3>Ouch, Baby, you're a Gangstato.

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<v Speaker 4>For the warners, this podcast is designed to take you

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<v Speaker 4>outside of your comfort zone and make you question reality

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<v Speaker 4>Listening discretion is a vibe the fellas.

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<v Speaker 5>This ain't my first time at the Rodeosh.

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome to the Occult Rejects this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>You already know.

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<v Speaker 7>We got Miguel Connor with us tonight with a cult Elvis.

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<v Speaker 7>But before we introduce him, I'm going to introduce the

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<v Speaker 7>rest of the crew and the rejects with us tonight.

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<v Speaker 7>I got myself obviously, and I got Heidi love with me. Heidi,

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<v Speaker 7>let everybody know what you deal is and where they

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<v Speaker 7>can find your amazing work.

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<v Speaker 8>Awesome. I'm Heidi, love of the Unfiltered Rice.

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<v Speaker 9>You can find me everywhere podcasts are served and love

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<v Speaker 9>to see either. I also have my own website, unfilteredripodcast

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<v Speaker 9>dot com.

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<v Speaker 7>Awesome links will be in the bottom and jin then Ninja,

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<v Speaker 7>what is up my man? Thank you very much for

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<v Speaker 7>joining us. Please let everybody know where your deal is.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I'll say, first of all, thanks boss for having

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<v Speaker 10>me on.

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<v Speaker 11>Of course, I love doing these panel shows. Thank you, Heidi, Julia, Ethan,

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<v Speaker 11>Robbie of course.

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<v Speaker 10>And Miguel Obviously, like a lot of young I'm not

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<v Speaker 10>that young, but maybe like a little younger than Eunich,

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<v Speaker 10>so I'll say I'm a little I'm young, and like

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<v Speaker 10>a lot of young magicians will say, I've listened to

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<v Speaker 10>Miguel's show for a long time, so I'm quite excited,

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<v Speaker 10>and uh yeah, I think it'll be really great. So

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<v Speaker 10>if people want to follow me, they can follow me

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<v Speaker 10>on Twitter x Wucar Reborn, wuk O and g Reborn

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<v Speaker 10>or the show.

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<v Speaker 11>At Threshold Saints at Spotify and Applele.

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<v Speaker 7>Well listen, you know that that is something I do

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<v Speaker 7>want to mention too. I don't know if I mentioned

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<v Speaker 7>it last time when I had you on, Miguel, but

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<v Speaker 7>just like just like Room Soup, I used to listen

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<v Speaker 7>to Miguil back in the day too when I when

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<v Speaker 7>I was just practicing. So it's actually kind of was

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<v Speaker 7>like kind of unreal to be like, Wow, this guy's

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<v Speaker 7>on my show and I used to listen to his

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<v Speaker 7>stuff when I was studying the cult. Like it's it's

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<v Speaker 7>pretty mind blowing, So yeah, I get it. Cosmic Peach, Julia,

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<v Speaker 7>please let us know what is going on.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, if you haven't found me yet, you never will.

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<v Speaker 12>But I'm happy to be in a cult reject so

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<v Speaker 12>you can find me here every now and again. Yes,

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<v Speaker 12>I have Cosmic Peach podcast and yeah that's pretty much it. Oh,

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<v Speaker 12>I was going to say, I do have an Instagram

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<v Speaker 12>cosmic dot Peach dot podcast. If people want to work

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<v Speaker 12>with me, the best way to do it is to

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<v Speaker 12>go to Instagram and email me from my link tree

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<v Speaker 12>because I never checked that inbox, so that's the way

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<v Speaker 12>to do it.

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<v Speaker 13>But thanks for having me, Nick, this is going to

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<v Speaker 13>be a good one.

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<v Speaker 7>Hell yeah, of course, know what. Thank you for joining us.

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<v Speaker 7>Ethan Indigo, my man, what is up? Let everybody know

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<v Speaker 7>what your deal is?

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<v Speaker 3>Peace on earth. Honored to be here with everyone, Always

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<v Speaker 3>excited to learn communicate with you, guys. I'm a big

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<v Speaker 3>fan of everyone, honestly, and I'm excited to hear Miguel's presentation.

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<v Speaker 3>Recently put out an article on a cult research institute

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<v Speaker 3>where your cult rejects have a bunch of writing of course,

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<v Speaker 3>and uh yeah, I'm a ne'er do well writer, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's and I think a link to my writing is below.

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<v Speaker 11>Thanks, thanks so much, Nick.

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<v Speaker 7>And everyone of course, and Robbie Marx the o G

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<v Speaker 7>himself let everybody know what's up with you.

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<v Speaker 14>So yeah, so now my state everybody here, and I

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<v Speaker 14>just want to say, Miguel, you know I've been excited

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<v Speaker 14>about this occult Elvis project since you started talking about

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<v Speaker 14>doing it.

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<v Speaker 15>But I am r Marx or Robbie Marx.

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<v Speaker 14>You can check out my artwork, my podcast, all my

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<v Speaker 14>miscellaneous things that I have at my link tree at

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<v Speaker 14>link Tree R M A r X.

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<v Speaker 15>That'll get you everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah, awesome, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 7>And last but not least, my favorite garbage can dude,

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<v Speaker 7>JJ Vance, not the vice president.

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<v Speaker 2>What is up, sir? How are you? And I think

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<v Speaker 2>you are today?

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<v Speaker 16>Your technical difficulties it creating, sir. I appreciate this, appreciate

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<v Speaker 16>the invite, Miguel. Nice to a nice you just start

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<v Speaker 16>looking forward to hearing about some of cold Elvis. Big

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<v Speaker 16>fan of A big fan of the king myself, and

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<v Speaker 16>nice to see all the fellow of cult.

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<v Speaker 17>Rejects here this evening.

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<v Speaker 16>JJ Vance not the vice president, host of Operations GCD,

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<v Speaker 16>and resident garbage Can do true crime. I'm here at

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<v Speaker 16>the Occult Rejects. That's for nothing except for being an expert.

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<v Speaker 17>Nothing. That's what I'm an expert.

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<v Speaker 2>In pretty much save here. I think I can say

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing.

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<v Speaker 7>All right, So finally we got through all that about

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<v Speaker 7>five minutes later. Now we're going to get to the guest,

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<v Speaker 7>Miguel A on Bite. I'm sure most people know who

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<v Speaker 7>you are already. I mean, you're a staple in the

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<v Speaker 7>occult community at this point, I mean you have been

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<v Speaker 7>for a while. Just let everybody know who me and

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<v Speaker 7>I know who you are, what your deal is, and

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<v Speaker 7>what you're all about.

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<v Speaker 1>Sir oh Man, thanks for having me on. But God,

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<v Speaker 1>all this talk, I feel like I feel like you're

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<v Speaker 1>wheeling in some old dinosaur. I'm like the Fat Elvis podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Show it's gonna be a Vegas suit.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly exactly, but uh yeah, just Miguel Connor, a host

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<v Speaker 1>of a young Bite off the Cult Elvis. Yeah, love

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<v Speaker 1>what you guys do. When I was writing the book,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd often go into the uh, into your podcast, The

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<v Speaker 1>Occult Rejects because it's nice. It's sometimes it's relaxing to

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<v Speaker 1>see people shoot the ship organically, you know, it's only

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of rare actually, so it was fun. And

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I'd be like, we're working on the book, or

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if Nick's been banned from YouTube again. That

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<v Speaker 1>was always happened so many times, like yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth yeah exactly. It's like, will you make it?

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<v Speaker 1>This time? Will be this? This will be the one?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you know it gets bad. It only strikes

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<v Speaker 2>I get anymore from William Ramsey on my show. It's

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<v Speaker 2>so weird.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like the funniest thing yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Julia.

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<v Speaker 12>Gonna say me for sure. And William who I just

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<v Speaker 12>talked to today. We did something on the Catcher in

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<v Speaker 12>the Rye and we're not even gonna try to put

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<v Speaker 12>that one on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh nice, nice, all right.

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<v Speaker 7>So, Miguel cult Elvis, I mean, I'm assuming you're probably

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<v Speaker 7>a huge fan of them and that's why you got

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<v Speaker 7>into them, but like, what made you pick or maybe

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<v Speaker 7>you weren't a fan of them? No really, okay, so

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<v Speaker 7>what made you? What made you decide to even get

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<v Speaker 1>Then? Oh, well, Elvis had other plans. I suppose I

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<v Speaker 1>never was an Elvis fan. I was always a Beatles person.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, yeah, I don't know if you young whipper

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<v Speaker 1>snappers have ever watched the original theater release of Pulp Fiction.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't find it, and you have to. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>original or release. Tarantino took it out. Yeah, there's the

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<v Speaker 1>Mia Wallace Uma Thurman, you know, daughter of the great

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<v Speaker 1>Buddhist scholar. She's filming John Travolta, Vincent Vega and the

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<v Speaker 1>camera and she goes, there are only two type of

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<v Speaker 1>people in this world. Elvis fans and Beatles fans. They

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<v Speaker 1>can like each other, but they're very different. Who you

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<v Speaker 1>are says everything about you. Then later in this one

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're a I think I know if you're

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<v Speaker 1>an Elvis or a Beatles fan. But it it makes

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<v Speaker 1>more context without that scene that Tarantino deleted. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was always a Beatles fan forever. Now I'm an Elvis fan,

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<v Speaker 1>and I explained in the book what it is to

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was like the you know, the music

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<v Speaker 1>And as I got older, I started appreciating him, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>his impact and everything. And I did read a book

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<v Speaker 1>about him, like ten years ago, a biography that mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>some of his you know, esoteric practices. But that was

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<v Speaker 1>at a time when I was studying the Colt and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh man, these all these rock stars

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<v Speaker 1>and artists are into weird stuff. You know. Bowie was

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<v Speaker 1>I ran into all these you might say, roadblocks that

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<v Speaker 1>two ayahuasca rituals, visions, synchronicities. Everything. My world was just

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<v Speaker 1>turned upside down and threw that. Suddenly this voice started saying,

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<v Speaker 1>And I became completely obsessed with the King. I could

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<v Speaker 1>only listen to his music in the car. I had

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<v Speaker 1>to watch you know, his movies, documentaries, and just couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>stop thinking about it. And finally I just surrendered. I

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<v Speaker 1>just said, you know, I believe that all of us

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<v Speaker 1>have a mission, and the mission is very simple. You

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<v Speaker 1>either listen to God or your soul or your destiny,

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<v Speaker 1>or you're going to be in a lot of pain.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm old enough to when these things happen, I

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three, I just sat down with that one biography

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<v Speaker 1>and I just started writing, and in three months, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole book came out of me. As I like to say,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like my tagline. I became quantum Entangled with Elvis,

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<v Speaker 1>we became almost one, and you know, and there's many

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<v Speaker 1>reasons why this book had to happen. We can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about him, but it was just something he wanted me

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<v Speaker 1>to do. It's like doing a favor for a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the friends ask you for a favor. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>to move the couch, maybe it's to and you just go,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I'll just do it. I'll just do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I did it, and I'm very happy I did

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<v Speaker 1>it for him as.

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<v Speaker 7>Part of the favor of being like, maybe stuff was

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<v Speaker 7>not noticed that he was trying to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wasn't notice because this stuff is hidden in

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<v Speaker 1>plain sight, you know. As you guys know, Elvis was

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<v Speaker 1>like the he was like the conspiracy world. Before conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 1>He was on the tabloids and the documentaries and the

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<v Speaker 1>bad blog posts and all that. You know, Elvis landed

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<v Speaker 1>from a spaceship, and Elvis did that. Everything I got

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<v Speaker 1>I got from biographies that are you know, very well

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<v Speaker 1>lauded biographies. They came from friends, family, Priscilla. The things

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<v Speaker 1>that he saw, his supernatural visions and magic abilities, and

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<v Speaker 1>what he practiced and what he read. It was always

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of witnesses around him. There were people

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<v Speaker 1>around him, and you can't trust him. And even his

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<v Speaker 1>UFO encounters I detail three or four in the book.

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<v Speaker 1>He was never alone with them. It's not like he went,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I had a UFO encounter. There were people there.

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<v Speaker 1>They happened in great in his bel Air mansion and

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere in the desert. So everything I got, I just

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<v Speaker 1>pruned from all these biography and newspaper articles, and everything

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<v Speaker 1>had or ninety nine ninety five percent had eyewitnesses to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So and it was all there, and it was up

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<v Speaker 1>to me to bring it all together in one book.

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<v Speaker 1>And also try to explain why Elvis, why he's probably

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<v Speaker 1>the most remarkable person in the twentieth century. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>something that you know, Quentin Terr, you know, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>many people says that the greatest icon in the twentieth

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<v Speaker 1>century is Elvis. He is America. He represents America everything

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<v Speaker 1>good and bad. And in my argument is that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we are losing our identity, this country's fragmenting. If we

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<v Speaker 1>want to know what it is to be an American,

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<v Speaker 1>the spirit of Elvis is what's going to get us

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<v Speaker 1>through the other side. So I put all these ideas

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<v Speaker 1>of Elvis on a highlight level, through a Union lens,

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<v Speaker 1>a Steiner lens, an alchemy lens, a psychological lens, even

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<v Speaker 1>a UFO lens, just so we can understand who this

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<v Speaker 1>figure is and maybe understand why he rose so fast

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<v Speaker 1>and also crashed so hard at the end. Why did

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<v Speaker 1>Elvis leave the building so early? And it's always going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a mystery, but I try to give ideas

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<v Speaker 1>so that the reader can make up their mind.

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<v Speaker 12>So you do believe that he is, you know rip

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<v Speaker 12>then because you know there's always yeah, there's theories that

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<v Speaker 12>he didn't really die when he died, and you know, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I do. I do focus a chapter on it.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's so many and they're great, great conspiracies, great

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<v Speaker 1>rabbit holes to have fun with. But I do think

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<v Speaker 1>at the end his body did leave. I do show

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<v Speaker 1>that he knew he was going to die. He predicted it,

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<v Speaker 1>he told friends. Even his death is almost a ritual

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<v Speaker 1>when you look get it, even you know, on the throne.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's all symbolical. And he predicted that day

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to leave. But his material body did leave.

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<v Speaker 1>And people always like, well, he could have been a

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<v Speaker 1>did he go under ground on the witness protection? That

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<v Speaker 1>a mob and he moved to Argentine.

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<v Speaker 2>But then Argentine.

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<v Speaker 1>Elvis fans say, look, number one, Elvis had more power

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<v Speaker 1>than the president, and he was mob connected. He was

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<v Speaker 1>connected with the DA he wrote, he said, what was

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen, That's just the way he was. Number Two,

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<v Speaker 1>if there were two people that are important in his

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<v Speaker 1>life at the time, was Lisa Marie and his father Vernon.

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<v Speaker 1>He would never have abandoned. He would have taken them

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<v Speaker 1>with them. If you know, I'm going to move to

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<v Speaker 1>Argentina or you know, or become a pastor in Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 1>Elvis would have not left his family. It's just not

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<v Speaker 1>something he did. I think that's the best argument.

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<v Speaker 12>What do you think about his relationship with Priscilla because

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<v Speaker 12>there's so many so much stuff people say about how

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<v Speaker 12>young she was and like when they met, and like

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<v Speaker 12>after she moved to Graceland and it's like weirdness and

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<v Speaker 12>stuff like what what are your thoughts about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, yeah, there's many thoughts about that. Again, many

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<v Speaker 1>theories of why this happened. I lean a lot simply

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<v Speaker 1>on her bio, Elvis and me, and you can watch

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<v Speaker 1>it in the Sophia Coppola movie Priscilla, and it's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it gives you a picture. But my theory, or the

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<v Speaker 1>way I approach it, is that Elvis was a it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to say he there was an Oedipus thing with

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<v Speaker 1>Elvis because he lost his twin when he was born,

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<v Speaker 1>and Gladys could not conceive, and there was so poverty.

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<v Speaker 1>Gladys became very possessive and unfortunately it's we call it

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<v Speaker 1>helicopter parenting, but you could call it. It's called lethal

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<v Speaker 1>enmeshment or enmeshment where the mother let the child grow,

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<v Speaker 1>so the child is their egos never develop and they

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<v Speaker 1>become this extreme of proxy husband plus little playful, naughty child.

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<v Speaker 1>And she basically destroyed a psyche I mean from the

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<v Speaker 1>get go. And it's a lot of damage. It's serious stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>We made joke about it. So he when she died

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<v Speaker 1>at only forty six, and he was like he was

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<v Speaker 1>in his early twenties, right before he was going into

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<v Speaker 1>the army. He was completely crushed. That archetype of the

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<v Speaker 1>mother was just taken away. And he felt guilty because

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<v Speaker 1>he always said, I don't care about the money. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make my mom happy. That's why I'm a millionaire.

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<v Speaker 1>But she hated the thing with a passion because her

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<v Speaker 1>proxy husband was out there with other women touring and

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<v Speaker 1>she started drinking, taking pills. So he felt guilty that

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<v Speaker 1>I gave my mom the fame and she died because

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<v Speaker 1>of it. And even his father once blamed he that

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<v Speaker 1>you killed you killed your own mother. He never recovered.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of a deal with the devil. Right, you want fame,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to take something from you. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>so crushing that he became obsessed with the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>the mother and anybody who looked like his mother. He

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<v Speaker 1>lost it, Like why did he get into theosophy? Because

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<v Speaker 1>he saw a photo of Madame Blovotski was like mommy.

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<v Speaker 1>And when he saw Priscilla, he saw that something about

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<v Speaker 1>her reminded him of his mother, and he couldn't let go.

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<v Speaker 1>He had He could have had any woman of any

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<v Speaker 1>stature in the world at any time, but he had

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<v Speaker 1>to have Priscilla, and he you know, and he had her.

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<v Speaker 1>And as Priscilla writes, they did not consummate the marriage

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<v Speaker 1>until they were They did not consummate the relationship either

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<v Speaker 1>until they got married or right before there. I think

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<v Speaker 1>she slips a few times that maybe right before and

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<v Speaker 1>she and everybody said she was the one who wanted it.

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<v Speaker 1>Elvis was like in his spiritual kick and was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we must wait and this and that. But it was Priscilla.

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<v Speaker 13>So she had hot draws some size dance.

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<v Speaker 8>She saw his pelvis moving.

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<v Speaker 2>She was gonna jump all that come on.

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<v Speaker 1>But she was in her early twenties, That's all I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>She was in her early twenties. Whenever they decided it

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<v Speaker 1>was time or whenever it happened.

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<v Speaker 12>So so was she into like all this stuff with him?

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<v Speaker 13>Was she was she doing like magical stuff you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Or no?

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<v Speaker 17>She scientology right later?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she did joint sciential Elvis hated.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to bring that up. I had had

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<v Speaker 2>that written down. Yeah, I noticed she mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>That, right.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the reason for that?

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<v Speaker 5>Why?

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<v Speaker 17>Daughter loved it?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 16>Mm hmm wife and scientist, both of them, right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 16>and he hated them. They say he avoided it like

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<v Speaker 16>the cobra. It was a godless religion.

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<v Speaker 1>He loved. He was very accepting of all religions because

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<v Speaker 1>he believed, if you're looking for God, I respect you.

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<v Speaker 1>Except for scientology.

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<v Speaker 16>Sure, I've always wanted how Scientology took back, you know

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<v Speaker 16>what I mean, because they don't like, they don't like

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<v Speaker 16>when when families bad mouth of their family members about

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<v Speaker 16>being in scientology.

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<v Speaker 17>That's a big that's a big no note for old Zeno.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. But once he once he was gone, that's

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<v Speaker 1>when Priscilla and Lisa Marie got into really need deep.

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<v Speaker 2>So oh okay, I hate it.

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<v Speaker 16>I thought that, and I thought I was I thought

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<v Speaker 16>there was like more of the nineteen sixties movement.

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<v Speaker 2>Type of situation for for Priscilla.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, it was in the seventies. In the sixties,

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<v Speaker 1>she was with Elvis, and uh, she hated his occultism

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<v Speaker 1>and mystic oh really, because he started becoming so detached

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<v Speaker 1>to the material world and so spiritual that a she wasn't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, no more attention she was. He wasn't giving

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<v Speaker 1>her the attention as a woman that she wanted. And

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<v Speaker 1>he almost twice, he almost quit the music industry to

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<v Speaker 1>be a monk, a Christian monk and a Hindu monk,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was all just too heavy for it. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>Elvis loved Manly P. Hall and wanted to go to

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<v Speaker 1>his lectures, but Elvis could not go to anywhere because

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<v Speaker 1>Kateus would ensue, right, he had to stay at Hoone.

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<v Speaker 1>So he would send Priscilla to go listen to Manly P. Hall,

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<v Speaker 1>write notes and bring him to him, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>very happy. But she hated. She hated his spirituality. So

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<v Speaker 1>did Parker, Colonel Parker the Memphis Mafia, because he was

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<v Speaker 1>really out of control. I mean, he was like meditation

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<v Speaker 1>circles with groupies and reading at night and meditating and

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<v Speaker 1>practicing this magic, and he just drove everybody crazy because

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<v Speaker 1>he hated his fame. He was done with it. He

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<v Speaker 1>just it meant nothing to him, and so it drove

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<v Speaker 1>him crazy. But eventually there was this concerted campaign to

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<v Speaker 1>put wedges between him and his spiritual teach us and this,

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually they won. They didn't win. What happened is

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<v Speaker 1>he went underground secretly, like he'd keep his books in

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas and all that. And I always I say, how

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<v Speaker 1>he turned into Vegas Elvis is very occult, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole Egyptian ah that. I think he transferred that

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<v Speaker 1>energy into the Vegas Act. But he was still till

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<v Speaker 1>the day he died, he was really into the Western

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<v Speaker 1>esoteric tradition, Eastern traditions and anything.

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<v Speaker 13>Are you familiar with the Tuesday Weld at all?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 13>No, JJ, Do you know who I'm talking about?

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<v Speaker 17>One of my favorite characters in.

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<v Speaker 13>Life, the Huge she's like a witch, right, she's.

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<v Speaker 18>Like a accordingand well Anton Levey had some kind of

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<v Speaker 18>dedication to her in his Satanic Bible.

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<v Speaker 12>It was like Marilyn Monroe to Sday well, Jane Mansfield,

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<v Speaker 12>but Tuesday well then.

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<v Speaker 16>Like this, they were like I knew they knew each

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<v Speaker 16>other as they acted together.

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<v Speaker 17>I didn't. Yeah, I didn't know how. I was curious

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<v Speaker 17>to know how the relationship went.

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>There's even pictures of them where he's given her a

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<v Speaker 12>big smooch yea, yeah, yeah, I think that there could

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<v Speaker 12>have been a romance there, but it it just like

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<v Speaker 12>with the kind of like the topic of the episode.

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<v Speaker 12>If she was into all that and they were best

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<v Speaker 12>these I can only imagine what Elvis may have learned

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<v Speaker 12>from her.

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<v Speaker 17>Oh for sure.

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<v Speaker 16>And Leavey elaborates on his dedication to Tuesday Wild in

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<v Speaker 16>a nineteen seventy two book called Modern Witchcraft.

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<v Speaker 17>So especially involved in the rituals.

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<v Speaker 13>She's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 12>But I wondered if you had come across her with Elvis,

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<v Speaker 12>because I know that they hung out and they were

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<v Speaker 12>friends or whatever, But do you think, like even him,

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<v Speaker 12>like how he was discovered and everything is kind of ritualistic,

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<v Speaker 12>because I've seen the studio in Memphis where he recorded

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<v Speaker 12>some of his first stuff, and it's like lots of

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<v Speaker 12>triangles on the ceilings.

423
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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, it's it's really in your face.

424
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<v Speaker 2>You been there to go, I've been.

425
00:23:20.680 --> 00:23:23.480
<v Speaker 15>Record Sodell.

426
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<v Speaker 14>I was gonna say, I'd always known Elvis was in

427
00:23:27.640 --> 00:23:30.119
<v Speaker 14>the theosophy and it was kind of just a loose

428
00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:33.640
<v Speaker 14>fact in the wind. And I came across I collect

429
00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:36.799
<v Speaker 14>the vinyl and I came across one of his country

430
00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:41.519
<v Speaker 14>records that has twelve songs and in between each song

431
00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:44.920
<v Speaker 14>is a seat and advertise it on the record a

432
00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:48.400
<v Speaker 14>secret thirteenth song. And I thought that was kind of

433
00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:52.400
<v Speaker 14>interesting in regard to the whole ideas of esoteric philosophy.

434
00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:57.519
<v Speaker 14>But like, did he actively kind of push those ideas

435
00:23:57.599 --> 00:24:01.920
<v Speaker 14>through his merchandising and his other you know, things that

436
00:24:01.960 --> 00:24:03.200
<v Speaker 14>he was putting out.

437
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:07.559
<v Speaker 1>I would say yes or no. Again. His Vegas manifestation

438
00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:11.559
<v Speaker 1>is very magical. There are reports he would stop doing

439
00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:15.559
<v Speaker 1>concerts and do like Tibetan prayers here and there. There

440
00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:17.400
<v Speaker 1>were times when he had to go into an altered

441
00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:19.880
<v Speaker 1>state of mind. Maybe he was on drugs, but yeah,

442
00:24:20.079 --> 00:24:22.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean he wore one thing. He wore an ankh

443
00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:26.079
<v Speaker 1>even the day he died, and all that. I mean,

444
00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:29.079
<v Speaker 1>starting out with the scene from two thousand and Space

445
00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:32.519
<v Speaker 1>one and all that. It was a big steministic ritual

446
00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:35.440
<v Speaker 1>and people there's not a lot of footage, but people

447
00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:39.200
<v Speaker 1>who went there said they were really transformed. And again,

448
00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:42.640
<v Speaker 1>he never hit it, but he didn't advertise it. He

449
00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:46.240
<v Speaker 1>was always passing out books, always wanted to talk to

450
00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:52.519
<v Speaker 1>musicians and people about different spiritualities and so forth. I

451
00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:57.279
<v Speaker 1>say that he really was part of seating the sixties

452
00:24:57.319 --> 00:25:01.319
<v Speaker 1>and seventies a cult and hippie movement because he was

453
00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:07.039
<v Speaker 1>always there handing out books, doing circles, lesson circles, teachings

454
00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:11.640
<v Speaker 1>in Hollywood and Memphis, and just spreading this stuff and

455
00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:14.759
<v Speaker 1>making it cool, even martial arts. When Elvis got his

456
00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:18.960
<v Speaker 1>black belt in nineteen fifty eight, he was only one

457
00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:20.920
<v Speaker 1>of one hundred people in the United States with a

458
00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:23.880
<v Speaker 1>black belt in the country's one hundred and seventy million.

459
00:25:24.440 --> 00:25:28.079
<v Speaker 1>That's esoteric. And through the sixties and seventies he got

460
00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:31.880
<v Speaker 1>more black belts and people started, oh, this is really cool.

461
00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he made karate and these things kind of cool.

462
00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:38.839
<v Speaker 1>So he was very important. And we have to understand

463
00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:41.519
<v Speaker 1>the United States was very like a wasteland. It wasn't

464
00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:44.400
<v Speaker 1>like Western Europe. When it came to the occult. There

465
00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:46.640
<v Speaker 1>was really nothing you had, you know, the West Coast,

466
00:25:46.640 --> 00:25:51.079
<v Speaker 1>the East Coat, Theosophical Society in Wheaton, there was nothing

467
00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:54.519
<v Speaker 1>you had Elvis and the beat writers, you know, for

468
00:25:54.839 --> 00:25:58.559
<v Speaker 1>all those guys, Kraak, we're talking about Eastern Nobody was

469
00:25:58.599 --> 00:26:02.319
<v Speaker 1>talking about Buddhism or Taoism and all that, and Elvis

470
00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:04.839
<v Speaker 1>was one of those. In fact, he used to go

471
00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:09.240
<v Speaker 1>to the Yoga Nanda Shrum because he started working under

472
00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Yogananda's successor, Diyamata. He'd go there to meditate. He did

473
00:26:13.799 --> 00:26:17.200
<v Speaker 1>that like years before George Harrison started doing it, So

474
00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:19.640
<v Speaker 1>he was way ahead of the curb. And I think

475
00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:23.440
<v Speaker 1>he's one of the reasons it became acceptable. And like

476
00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:26.359
<v Speaker 1>I said, he was seeding this stuff. But again, it

477
00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:28.200
<v Speaker 1>was not something he wore in his sleeve. It was

478
00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:30.799
<v Speaker 1>just he had passionate about it, you know, like, yeah,

479
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:33.680
<v Speaker 1>you have passionate about the giants. You meet somebody, Hey

480
00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:36.640
<v Speaker 1>what about the giants or you know you just yeah.

481
00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:40.839
<v Speaker 12>I was going to say, even like a secret life though.

482
00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:42.960
<v Speaker 12>It was like he had all this going on on

483
00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:46.359
<v Speaker 12>the side, but nobody knew about it. Like in the public,

484
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:50.920
<v Speaker 12>they wouldn't go, oh, Elvis, that guy that's really into Buddhism.

485
00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:54.599
<v Speaker 13>You know, it's almost he had like a secret sight.

486
00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:58.519
<v Speaker 1>It does. It's almost like an immagh thing. It's almost

487
00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:01.480
<v Speaker 1>like an image because even though he would wear this

488
00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:06.519
<v Speaker 1>Aztek or Egyptian outfits and do that. People still had

489
00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:10.079
<v Speaker 1>this image of Elvis as a southern conservative boy, but

490
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:13.759
<v Speaker 1>everybody in his inner circle and friends in Hollywood, they

491
00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:17.240
<v Speaker 1>knew it and it was just part of it. Elvis

492
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:19.599
<v Speaker 1>did what Elvis wanted to do, and it was really

493
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:22.599
<v Speaker 1>as simple as that. And for some reason, I think

494
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:24.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it is there was a time when

495
00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:27.319
<v Speaker 1>people just thought, oh, these Hollywood people are rocks, that

496
00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:31.000
<v Speaker 1>they're eccentric, you know, the Beatles and Hinduism, Ronald Reagan

497
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:34.359
<v Speaker 1>and astrology and man, oh, it's just what they do,

498
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:37.559
<v Speaker 1>and we kind of shelve it, we put it away,

499
00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:42.599
<v Speaker 1>and then you realize, no, these things really shape their personalities,

500
00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:46.359
<v Speaker 1>their world views, their art. I mean, this was essential

501
00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:49.680
<v Speaker 1>to who they are as beings. And I think we're

502
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:51.400
<v Speaker 1>ready now to see it. I mean, there's been a

503
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:55.279
<v Speaker 1>book out on you know, the colchi In Morrison, Sylvia Plath,

504
00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:59.720
<v Speaker 1>and we're realizing this is essential and important and history

505
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:03.079
<v Speaker 1>change and personality changing, and I think we're ready as

506
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:06.240
<v Speaker 1>a culture to really really see it. Instead of kind

507
00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:09.119
<v Speaker 1>of turning her eye to one side or something.

508
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:11.640
<v Speaker 13>Did he write his own stuff?

509
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

510
00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:14.119
<v Speaker 9>Sorry, what do you what do you feel about the

511
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:20.279
<v Speaker 9>catastrophic things that have happened on his bloodline, like you

512
00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:22.519
<v Speaker 9>have implications there anything?

513
00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hell yeah, yeah, I deal with that too. I

514
00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:29.440
<v Speaker 1>mean Priscilla once said, well, you think Elvis would have

515
00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:31.400
<v Speaker 1>survived how it would have been? And Priscilla's like, no,

516
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:37.240
<v Speaker 1>there were demons in his family and she said the

517
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:41.759
<v Speaker 1>lineage is cursed and I show that through his mother, Gladys.

518
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Gladys maybe you know she abused him and I can't

519
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.279
<v Speaker 1>blame him, and she lost her twin she was then

520
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:50.720
<v Speaker 1>they went to the hospital. She said she couldn't conceive,

521
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:53.759
<v Speaker 1>so of course she's just going to grab onto Elvis

522
00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:58.480
<v Speaker 1>with everything she had. But she was known to have visions.

523
00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>She would see demons at night, she had premonitions. Her

524
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>and her husband could heal, had a touch, which Elvis adopted.

525
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Elvis talks about how her and her mother in Mississippi

526
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:12.839
<v Speaker 1>good astral travel, but they both kept it hush because

527
00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:16.279
<v Speaker 1>they were worried about the church. So he got to

528
00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:20.599
<v Speaker 1>this lineage and of course the gifts also are the curses.

529
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:24.519
<v Speaker 1>There's a darkness to these powers. And got it from Gladys.

530
00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:27.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's because of their native blood

531
00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:29.799
<v Speaker 1>or their Jewish, but I don't know. Some lineage of

532
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>magicians went through Gladys, through Elvis and eventually to Lisa Marie.

533
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:38.799
<v Speaker 1>From what I hear and I'm just doing the research,

534
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:43.079
<v Speaker 1>Lisa Marie had UFO encounters, so there was something, some

535
00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:44.519
<v Speaker 1>sort of curse.

536
00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:47.000
<v Speaker 9>Or because they lost over her poor son. You know,

537
00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:50.000
<v Speaker 9>there was some I mean all of that. It's just

538
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:55.319
<v Speaker 9>every out of them. It's like all over again. Yeah yeah, yeah, but.

539
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:58.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm just getting started on that. I haven't gone down

540
00:29:58.480 --> 00:29:59.440
<v Speaker 1>too deep that rabbit.

541
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:02.720
<v Speaker 10>All well, I just would jump in and say one

542
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:05.400
<v Speaker 10>thing quickly, since we have Heidi and jj on is

543
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:09.359
<v Speaker 10>that also Nick and I did a series at Nick Lison.

544
00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:12.400
<v Speaker 11>I did a series on Nick Barrett or Sid Brett

545
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:16.920
<v Speaker 11>excuse me, from the band. I can't even think right now,

546
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:18.799
<v Speaker 11>that's right.

547
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:23.319
<v Speaker 10>And so he was involved with Sikhism and at like

548
00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:27.160
<v Speaker 10>I'm a Buddhist, so for me, that's not a particular

549
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:30.519
<v Speaker 10>branch of dharma that I'm that familiar with. But I

550
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.680
<v Speaker 10>looking into it, it does seem to have a lot

551
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:38.000
<v Speaker 10>of branches into these kind of celebrity ocult networks. Seems

552
00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:42.640
<v Speaker 10>to be like Sickhism, which is an interesting maybe side point.

553
00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:47.720
<v Speaker 10>But also they were married on May first, nineteen sixty seven.

554
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:51.559
<v Speaker 10>I think nineteen sixty seven JJ might find that interesting date.

555
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:54.279
<v Speaker 10>And then also for Heidi they were married at the

556
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:59.359
<v Speaker 10>Aladdin Hotel. Well, you know, we discussed another magician, Howard Hughes,

557
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:02.839
<v Speaker 10>who you know, everybody's favorite magic city.

558
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:03.559
<v Speaker 11>Vegas.

559
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:06.599
<v Speaker 8>On May Day.

560
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:13.440
<v Speaker 7>Something I did want to ask you Miil was was

561
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:15.680
<v Speaker 7>he almost kind of like a conspiracy theorist in a

562
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:17.759
<v Speaker 7>sense too, because I think I.

563
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:22.319
<v Speaker 1>Had heard was red pill before red pill was cool?

564
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:25.880
<v Speaker 1>So he was again he he was, Yeah, he would

565
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:28.279
<v Speaker 1>have been having fun with us right now. He would

566
00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:31.559
<v Speaker 1>be fun Twitter. He'd be going crazy on Twitter and

567
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:38.359
<v Speaker 1>all that, because yeah, he he certainly had a conspiracy sensibility.

568
00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>He never right after JFK was killed, he was on

569
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the radio saying, there's no way it's a lone gun man.

570
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.519
<v Speaker 1>Same with Robert F. Kennedy. He was sure that there

571
00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:52.440
<v Speaker 1>was foul play.

572
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:53.599
<v Speaker 20>Yeah, he thought he.

573
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:56.799
<v Speaker 1>Thought the Vatican was holding secrets and he was really mad.

574
00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:00.240
<v Speaker 12>It's like, why does don't we know this side of him?

575
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:02.960
<v Speaker 12>Like I always imagined him as like kind of a

576
00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:05.960
<v Speaker 12>dope like that. Went to go visit Forst Gump one

577
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:09.160
<v Speaker 12>time and like learned how to do the moonwalk thing.

578
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:12.640
<v Speaker 13>I mean, but there's just like this image of Elvis.

579
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:15.440
<v Speaker 12>It's like, oh yeah, kind of like the very first

580
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:19.799
<v Speaker 12>Beatle stuff like bubble gum kind of like, oh yeah,

581
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:20.680
<v Speaker 12>it's Elvis.

582
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:24.920
<v Speaker 13>You know whatever. I've watched. What is that.

583
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:27.599
<v Speaker 12>Movie with the it's the story of Johnny Cash, but

584
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:28.359
<v Speaker 12>he's in it.

585
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:32.200
<v Speaker 13>Walked the line, yeah, walked the line.

586
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:36.400
<v Speaker 12>And because Johnny Cash always said, oh Elvis got me

587
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:40.000
<v Speaker 12>on pills. Elvis this Elvis that. So like do you

588
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:41.759
<v Speaker 12>think he's a good guy? Do you think he's just

589
00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:44.680
<v Speaker 12>somewhere floating in the middle, like who is he?

590
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:50.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Well it was an occultist. He was a mystic.

591
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:53.039
<v Speaker 1>He had magic powers, as they show in the book.

592
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:55.799
<v Speaker 1>He was a visionary and a very smart guy. Even

593
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:59.799
<v Speaker 1>the big bio Peter pull In that I forget it's

594
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>called The Last Train to Memphis, talks about how he

595
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:07.559
<v Speaker 1>was a brilliant thinker. He would write, he would annotate books.

596
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>You can go to Graceland and you see it. He

597
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:14.359
<v Speaker 1>wanted to know things when he would whether he was

598
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:17.319
<v Speaker 1>going to Vegas or movies. He always had a higher

599
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:20.599
<v Speaker 1>group of workers carrying two hundred books because he would

600
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>just he would just read them, read them. He was

601
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:26.799
<v Speaker 1>he really was almost a scholar mind, a brilliant person

602
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:31.279
<v Speaker 1>and a brilliant thinker. Again, he had terrible demons, you know,

603
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:34.480
<v Speaker 1>as Heidi is saying, So he always had that struggle,

604
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:39.480
<v Speaker 1>but really a unique individual. He really was the king.

605
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:44.960
<v Speaker 9>Right, true cult is they're never all darker all light.

606
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:47.799
<v Speaker 9>It's usually the dark in the light.

607
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:52.359
<v Speaker 1>So that's what I met by Gordon, which he had recently,

608
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:56.279
<v Speaker 1>and it always sticks with thee. It properly used magic

609
00:33:56.319 --> 00:34:00.319
<v Speaker 1>will destroy your life. And I've always I think right

610
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:02.960
<v Speaker 1>looks like a good Coultist.

611
00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:05.119
<v Speaker 17>Elvis also is a spook.

612
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Right.

613
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:09.880
<v Speaker 16>He was an undercover federal officer. He tried, He tried,

614
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:14.320
<v Speaker 16>He really did try. But he had an obsession with badges.

615
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:17.840
<v Speaker 16>He had an obsession with authority. But I think a

616
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:20.840
<v Speaker 16>lot of it because he grew up so poor daddy

617
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:24.119
<v Speaker 16>went to jail, no justice all that.

618
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:28.199
<v Speaker 1>Later on. He wanted he I mean, he he never

619
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:31.639
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be poor. He never wanted his family to suffer.

620
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:34.039
<v Speaker 1>So he had this thing and I think he did

621
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:37.239
<v Speaker 1>it also to piss off his dad about badges, authorities.

622
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>He would go on drug rates dressed like, you know,

623
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:44.199
<v Speaker 1>with a sche mask. He would. He met Nixon and

624
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:47.679
<v Speaker 1>got a DA badge. I think it was honorary. So yeah,

625
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:50.320
<v Speaker 1>he was obsessed with bad but I don't think he

626
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:54.519
<v Speaker 1>really like officially worked. But there's a dark side to it.

627
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I think also he liked power. I mean, he was

628
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.400
<v Speaker 1>the kind of guy that always had, you know, only

629
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:03.480
<v Speaker 1>four black belts, but he was always armed to the tief.

630
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:08.599
<v Speaker 1>And there was one time he went commercial. Yeah, he

631
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:12.039
<v Speaker 1>got mad with his dad in Priscilla. They're arguing about

632
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:14.840
<v Speaker 1>money because he's spending money like Crazy's like a few

633
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:18.039
<v Speaker 1>he leaves Graceland, goes to the airport, shows up at

634
00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:20.599
<v Speaker 1>the airport, goes to the lady and the lady's like

635
00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:22.760
<v Speaker 1>freaking out behind the counters, like I need a ticket

636
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>to LA can you just bill me? And yes, mister Presley.

637
00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:29.920
<v Speaker 1>He goes in security, grabs them and they're like, Elvis,

638
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:32.360
<v Speaker 1>he got all these guns. He's like, well, can I

639
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:35.079
<v Speaker 1>take them on the plane And they're like, okay, if

640
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:37.480
<v Speaker 1>you give us an autograph and keep your mouth shut.

641
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:40.039
<v Speaker 1>And he went on the plane with all these guns.

642
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:42.920
<v Speaker 1>So he liked the power in the badge. And I

643
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:46.039
<v Speaker 1>think there is. Priscilla always said the reason he wanted

644
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:50.800
<v Speaker 1>a DA badge was because he never toured any other country.

645
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:54.199
<v Speaker 1>He never left the United States. True. Imagine the money

646
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:57.800
<v Speaker 1>the guy made four billion dollars in his career. Imagine

647
00:35:57.840 --> 00:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the money he could have made in Japan, in London,

648
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:03.639
<v Speaker 1>all that because he didn't he wouldn't go anywhere without

649
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:06.840
<v Speaker 1>his guns and his pills. With a DA badge, you

650
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:09.239
<v Speaker 1>can take guns and drugs in and out of the

651
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:10.119
<v Speaker 1>United States.

652
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:12.360
<v Speaker 2>So right, maybe that was a job.

653
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:16.519
<v Speaker 16>I don't have much involvement he had in the case,

654
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:20.519
<v Speaker 16>but he had an undercover FBI agent for a number

655
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.320
<v Speaker 16>of years there in the mid to late seventies and

656
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:25.599
<v Speaker 16>something that's called Operation Fountain pen It happened to be

657
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:27.159
<v Speaker 16>the most one of the most integral.

658
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:28.960
<v Speaker 17>Cases in FBI history because it's.

659
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:31.119
<v Speaker 16>Fun into things like abscam.

660
00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:31.760
<v Speaker 17>The abscam.

661
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:34.639
<v Speaker 16>I don't know how much Elvis undercover had involved with that,

662
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:37.159
<v Speaker 16>but he at least had undercover guys on his team,

663
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:39.039
<v Speaker 16>you know, for for that operation.

664
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:41.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it was. It really had to do more

665
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:44.320
<v Speaker 1>with his dad, Vernon, because his dad was in charge

666
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:46.920
<v Speaker 1>of the planes and the money. Again, Elvis didn't have

667
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:50.559
<v Speaker 1>a wallet, no concept of money. It just wasn't you know.

668
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:52.599
<v Speaker 1>He said, buy me a plane, buy me a fleet

669
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:55.760
<v Speaker 1>of rolls Royces. So it would have to do with

670
00:36:55.920 --> 00:37:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Vernon more than Elvis. It's not something sure was involved.

671
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:02.159
<v Speaker 16>They would have been in the note of something they're

672
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:05.599
<v Speaker 16>going on there, because that case, that case dominoed into

673
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:08.639
<v Speaker 16>a series of other cases over the next almost decade.

674
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Exactly. Yeah, it was a bit. It was a big thing,

675
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:15.280
<v Speaker 1>for sure. But I don't think Elvis was directly involved.

676
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:18.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean he was connected again, he was connected to

677
00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the authorities, and he was connected to the mind. But

678
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:25.000
<v Speaker 1>to Elvis, these these were his citizens, his underlings as

679
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:27.039
<v Speaker 1>far as he concerned. Yeah, this is the guy that

680
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:30.760
<v Speaker 1>could go to the White House unannounced and get a

681
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:33.159
<v Speaker 1>meeting with Nixon. That's how powerful he was.

682
00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:33.920
<v Speaker 17>Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

683
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:35.840
<v Speaker 16>He had a very unique angle, right, He saw every

684
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:38.519
<v Speaker 16>every kind of every perspective right through these days.

685
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:42.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he never voted. He could care less who

686
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:45.440
<v Speaker 1>was the president. It was just these things were irrelevant

687
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:47.159
<v Speaker 1>to him.

688
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:50.239
<v Speaker 8>He knew because he knew.

689
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:55.159
<v Speaker 3>A lot of his stories seems very much like the

690
00:37:55.199 --> 00:38:00.559
<v Speaker 3>fool archetype or this kind of hero element of him

691
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:05.079
<v Speaker 3>where he ignorantly was pursuing you know, not that he

692
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:09.679
<v Speaker 3>didn't have alter pursuits in wanting the badges and so forth,

693
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:12.280
<v Speaker 3>but the part of it just seems like he's just

694
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:17.719
<v Speaker 3>strolling through life trying to you know, portray this you know,

695
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:20.639
<v Speaker 3>giver of books and knowledge and all these all these

696
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:24.519
<v Speaker 3>little hints of him just being this ignorant hero.

697
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:28.639
<v Speaker 1>I do connect him to the trickster archetype, not the

698
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:31.519
<v Speaker 1>king archetype. And I think that's a valid one, because

699
00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:36.239
<v Speaker 1>he was a trickster. A trickster brings people into a

700
00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:39.599
<v Speaker 1>new world, whether it's the Changer or the Coyota native

701
00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:43.800
<v Speaker 1>lore or Luki or they are the gods of the doorways.

702
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:48.559
<v Speaker 1>The door hinge depends on Hermes. And Elvis brought this people,

703
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>this country that have been decimated by the Great Depression

704
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:56.320
<v Speaker 1>War two and brought these people to this new era

705
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:59.960
<v Speaker 1>where we were the most powerful empire history had scene,

706
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:05.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, satellites, nuclear bombs, mass media and everybody's freaking out.

707
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:09.159
<v Speaker 1>And Elvis with his rock music, he and Johnny Cash

708
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:12.840
<v Speaker 1>and Jerry Lee Lewis and Little Richard with these sort

709
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:17.440
<v Speaker 1>of shamans who brought and gave the people medicine to

710
00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:20.960
<v Speaker 1>be able to stand psychologically this change. I mean the

711
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:24.760
<v Speaker 1>tricksters at the crossroads. He was at the crossroads of

712
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:27.800
<v Speaker 1>the old way and this new empire, the crossloads of

713
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:31.880
<v Speaker 1>the old way gender saw each other and the new sexuality.

714
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:36.159
<v Speaker 1>Elvis taught women how to objectify men. Women suddenly had

715
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:38.679
<v Speaker 1>a male gaze and they can look at him and say,

716
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:41.840
<v Speaker 1>and this power, this kundalina, this eating of the fruit

717
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:45.000
<v Speaker 1>woke women up. But it taught men to be more

718
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:47.679
<v Speaker 1>sensitive because he looked so vulnerable, and he taught men,

719
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:50.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, you don't have to be Gary Cooper. You

720
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:53.320
<v Speaker 1>can be like me or Marlon Brando, soft and sensitive.

721
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:56.760
<v Speaker 1>He taught. He brought people to the crossroads of the

722
00:39:56.880 --> 00:40:01.000
<v Speaker 1>old religions to all this new spirituality, this new music.

723
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Were oh my god, we can listen to African American

724
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:06.920
<v Speaker 1>music and Hispanic music. I mean, he was the lord

725
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:09.719
<v Speaker 1>of the crosslers and the trickster. That's what the trickster does.

726
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:13.360
<v Speaker 1>And again I feel like he is a trickster because

727
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:15.480
<v Speaker 1>if this is United States, I don't know what our

728
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:18.360
<v Speaker 1>next incarnation is going to be. But the trickster is

729
00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the one that takes us and if you trust the trickster,

730
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:24.239
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be alright. If not, bad things are

731
00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:24.840
<v Speaker 1>going to happen.

732
00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:28.519
<v Speaker 12>I feel like he used his music as like a

733
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:32.039
<v Speaker 12>spiritual kind of modality. I don't I was gonna say earlier.

734
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:34.400
<v Speaker 12>I don't know if he wrote his own stuff.

735
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:39.159
<v Speaker 1>But he No. That's a good point though. I think

736
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:42.760
<v Speaker 1>when we see rock music as a spirituality, it makes

737
00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:46.679
<v Speaker 1>perfect sense because again, these guys like Johnny Cash and Elvis,

738
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:51.519
<v Speaker 1>there were pastors. The term rock and rolling started in

739
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:55.719
<v Speaker 1>Pentecostal churches when people would be grabbed by the Holy Spirit,

740
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:59.199
<v Speaker 1>it the'd be like shaking. And then when rock music

741
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:02.400
<v Speaker 1>came out, these music critics would go to these concerts say,

742
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:05.679
<v Speaker 1>this is like a Holy ten revival. What's going on?

743
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:08.519
<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing. They're not handling snakes and doing

744
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:11.880
<v Speaker 1>the Holy Spirit, but they're like shaking and going crazy.

745
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:15.679
<v Speaker 1>So and rock music really is a fusion, as many

746
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:20.800
<v Speaker 1>critics of notice notice, it's of gospel music and the blues.

747
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:25.440
<v Speaker 1>And by the blues, I mean the devilish trickster, African animals,

748
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:29.719
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, and Elvis always said I carry heaven and

749
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Hell with me and I got and I got about

750
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:36.119
<v Speaker 1>what you meant, gospel music, heaven, the blues hell, this

751
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:41.039
<v Speaker 1>fusion that was rock music, shamanistic, altered states, and it

752
00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:44.639
<v Speaker 1>was a way to sort of free people and help people.

753
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:48.719
<v Speaker 1>As the United States came into is its new identity?

754
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:52.679
<v Speaker 1>Is this amazing empire that nobody had seen? As I show,

755
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:55.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, using the work of Chris Knowles, you've got

756
00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:59.599
<v Speaker 1>like here's technology in human history. Oh look, the Samerians

757
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:01.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of popped. Then we're putt putt, putt putt. But

758
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:05.960
<v Speaker 1>then in nineteen late forties, fifties, we shoot up like

759
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:08.679
<v Speaker 1>never before, nobody's ever seen that we have it, and

760
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:12.119
<v Speaker 1>we kind of stopped in the twenty first century. What happened,

761
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:16.679
<v Speaker 1>aliens not I mean, whatever happened, It was a mind

762
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:21.880
<v Speaker 1>blown kind of thing. And you almost needed that trickster energy,

763
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:25.840
<v Speaker 1>that spirituality as a coping skill. And he never answered

764
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:29.159
<v Speaker 1>your question. He never wrote songs because with Elvis, it

765
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:33.960
<v Speaker 1>was all about feeling the energy. He always said, I

766
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:36.559
<v Speaker 1>can feel like in gospel music, in the blues, the

767
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:41.480
<v Speaker 1>plight of the black person, who's disenfranchised, who's homeless. I

768
00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:44.400
<v Speaker 1>feel that energy or gospel music, I feel these people

769
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.840
<v Speaker 1>crying out for Christ in the you know in the

770
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:51.199
<v Speaker 1>fields and all that. So Elvis was always about getting

771
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:54.000
<v Speaker 1>some music and making it its own and making.

772
00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:58.079
<v Speaker 12>It so unique beautiful, actually, isn't it. I was raised Pentecostal.

773
00:42:58.199 --> 00:42:59.440
<v Speaker 12>I can get on board with that.

774
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, was he exposed to that stuff?

775
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:03.480
<v Speaker 8>Huh?

776
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:05.960
<v Speaker 2>He was exposed to that stuff, wasn't he? As a younger?

777
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:06.719
<v Speaker 5>I was.

778
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:10.400
<v Speaker 12>Gerry Lee was Jerry Lee came from gospel too.

779
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:16.119
<v Speaker 1>They're all Pentecostals. And again, as scholars have said, Pentecostalism

780
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:23.480
<v Speaker 1>is Christian mystery school, Shamanism are altered states of mind,

781
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:27.039
<v Speaker 1>healing your body, your mind, and that's what these guys were.

782
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:30.239
<v Speaker 12>That's one hundred du should have you should have seen

783
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:32.559
<v Speaker 12>the people at my church. They would be rolling around

784
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:34.559
<v Speaker 12>and shouting and jumping.

785
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:35.840
<v Speaker 13>I mean, I loved it.

786
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:37.679
<v Speaker 12>I thought it was great. As a kid, I'd look

787
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:38.840
<v Speaker 12>forward to going to church.

788
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:42.000
<v Speaker 13>I'd even get in on it. But it's, uh, yeah,

789
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:42.840
<v Speaker 13>it's it's cool.

790
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:44.920
<v Speaker 12>I like where you went with that, because it does

791
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:49.000
<v Speaker 12>sound like that, you know, gospel bluesy kind of cool sound.

792
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:53.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And people used to remember Pentecostal. I mean, obviously

793
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:56.760
<v Speaker 1>people hated the blues in the forties, not just the whites,

794
00:43:57.039 --> 00:44:00.559
<v Speaker 1>black proper black people hated the Blues because it was

795
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:03.679
<v Speaker 1>so corruptive and dangerous. But they had a problem with

796
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:07.639
<v Speaker 1>Pentecostalism too, because they used to say, these Pentecostals, they're

797
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:11.440
<v Speaker 1>mixing Jesus and sex, that's all they're doing. And that

798
00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:12.559
<v Speaker 1>became rock and roll.

799
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:15.360
<v Speaker 15>Well in Memphis.

800
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:18.400
<v Speaker 14>When you get into that Memphis area, just what is

801
00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:21.880
<v Speaker 14>it west they call uh hell in the Arkansas area

802
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:26.599
<v Speaker 14>West Memphis, which is basically where Robert Johnson went out

803
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:29.639
<v Speaker 14>and went to the crossroads and you know, signed the

804
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:32.480
<v Speaker 14>deal with Papa Eggba and came back. So that whole

805
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:36.039
<v Speaker 14>area is kind of really just uh you know, like

806
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:41.320
<v Speaker 14>a like a prime place you know, for for this, Yeah,

807
00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:43.920
<v Speaker 14>this energetic kind of you know music.

808
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:48.079
<v Speaker 1>And guess what, Robert Johnson he died the same day

809
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Elvis died. I bet they both.

810
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:56.079
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, yeah, they died on the same day.

811
00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:59.880
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, Robert Johnson was like a million years old.

812
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:04.880
<v Speaker 15>He was twenty seven. He was the first twenty seven.

813
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:07.800
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, yeah, I know, But I thought like it was

814
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:10.519
<v Speaker 12>like a million years ago that he did that, because

815
00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:13.400
<v Speaker 12>all the pictures you see of him are like black

816
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:17.199
<v Speaker 12>and white, like holding a guitar. It just looks super

817
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:19.039
<v Speaker 12>old to me. I thought it was like in the

818
00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:24.519
<v Speaker 12>thirties or something. But no, Yeah, I saw that recording

819
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:27.199
<v Speaker 12>studio in Memphis, and I always thought it was kind

820
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:31.159
<v Speaker 12>of in your face a little bit, like with what

821
00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:32.480
<v Speaker 12>they had going.

822
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:35.719
<v Speaker 15>On, and it's the same studio.

823
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:38.559
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I was gonna say, with that, with all the

824
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:43.440
<v Speaker 9>anthroposophy and everything, do you think he ever like channeled anything,

825
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:45.719
<v Speaker 9>you know where he would act completely different.

826
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:48.760
<v Speaker 8>I mean obviously he knew, he obviously knew how.

827
00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, he certainly had altered states

828
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:56.719
<v Speaker 1>of mind. Again, the astral travel he would do a lot. Yeah,

829
00:45:56.760 --> 00:45:59.519
<v Speaker 1>he could change. He had the power to read minds.

830
00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:02.159
<v Speaker 1>People would be freaked out because he could. He could

831
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:05.159
<v Speaker 1>read you, you know, exactly what you're thinking, what you're

832
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:07.639
<v Speaker 1>going to do. When he was in a bad mood,

833
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:10.400
<v Speaker 1>he had a way of just crushing your soul, which

834
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:12.599
<v Speaker 1>he got it from his mother. You know these people

835
00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:14.360
<v Speaker 1>they walk into the room and you can feel him

836
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:17.679
<v Speaker 1>just suck all the energy up. His mother could do

837
00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:19.880
<v Speaker 1>it to anybody, no matter how rich they were, when

838
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:24.599
<v Speaker 1>you were poor. And yeah, he had really powerful abilities.

839
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:28.800
<v Speaker 7>So what was in your opinion, what do you think

840
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:30.800
<v Speaker 7>I know you mentioned Theosophy before. What do you think

841
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:33.960
<v Speaker 7>was like some of his I guess major influences.

842
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:37.880
<v Speaker 1>He came to the occult, Oh my god, everything you

843
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:43.599
<v Speaker 1>name it. Yeah, Theosophy. He Lovedanda Manly p Hall, but

844
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:49.599
<v Speaker 1>he got into really anything. Khalilki brains, a prophet, gerjiev

845
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Hermann essay, he read Albert Pike, He loved morals and dogma.

846
00:46:55.480 --> 00:46:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean again, this guy was reading hundreds of books

847
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:01.639
<v Speaker 1>a week and he wanted to know because what happened

848
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:05.920
<v Speaker 1>is that he was really burned, you know, not just

849
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:08.599
<v Speaker 1>the death of his mother. But we have to forget

850
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Elvis came and it was like a nuclear bomb. You know,

851
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:14.800
<v Speaker 1>for three years he was the most famous person on earth.

852
00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:17.320
<v Speaker 1>He was already the goat, the king of rock and roll.

853
00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:20.440
<v Speaker 1>It was, you know, a settle, kind of like Michael

854
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Jordan or Wayne Gretzky. You just know that's it. Nobody's

855
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:27.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna come. You know it in your heart. But we

856
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:30.440
<v Speaker 1>have to remember that a lot of the country hated

857
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:34.000
<v Speaker 1>his guts. They hated how he was liberating women. How

858
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:37.760
<v Speaker 1>dangerous is music? I mean, the government was worried. The

859
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:41.679
<v Speaker 1>Christians were very pissed off. I mean his own pastor

860
00:47:41.719 --> 00:47:44.920
<v Speaker 1>said that he'd been possessed by the devil. Billy Graham

861
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:49.960
<v Speaker 1>went publicly and denounced him. People like Frank Sinatra were

862
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:53.079
<v Speaker 1>just pissed off. I mean, he was a threat, and

863
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:57.719
<v Speaker 1>he was completely burned by Christianity, and so he was like,

864
00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:00.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe these assholes are just you know, it's a bit business,

865
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:03.199
<v Speaker 1>and I'm really angry at And plus he had already

866
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:05.800
<v Speaker 1>said there's no way there's eternal hell. He'd already believed

867
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:08.599
<v Speaker 1>in reincarnation when he was a teenager. He just said,

868
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:12.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just normal. It's just logically, it's a logical thing.

869
00:48:13.719 --> 00:48:16.119
<v Speaker 1>So he was burned, and then he became kind of

870
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:20.440
<v Speaker 1>after the army, he became disillusioned with his fame and

871
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:23.960
<v Speaker 1>all that. He met his spiritual teacher, Larry Geller, and

872
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:27.079
<v Speaker 1>the books that he got him gave him the Jesus

873
00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:31.440
<v Speaker 1>he needed, which was the cosmic Jesus, the inner Christ,

874
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:36.280
<v Speaker 1>the wise teacher Jesus. So anywhere this Jesus was, whether

875
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:39.119
<v Speaker 1>it was the Gnostic Gospels or manly p hall with

876
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:43.519
<v Speaker 1>the mystical Christ, or Theosophy, he was so happy to learn,

877
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:47.840
<v Speaker 1>and he was so happy to believe that we all

878
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:50.559
<v Speaker 1>have Christ within us. We all can bring this Christ,

879
00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:54.239
<v Speaker 1>and some do. And these are some wise people throughout

880
00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:57.599
<v Speaker 1>history that are there for the betterment of men. Maybe

881
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:00.719
<v Speaker 1>it's the ascended Masters, maybe it's the Freema says, maybe

882
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:04.320
<v Speaker 1>it's Buddhas or ast Jesus. But he was so happy

883
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:07.079
<v Speaker 1>that there was hope and we all had a Christ

884
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:10.519
<v Speaker 1>power within us. And he always hoped that he perhaps

885
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:15.639
<v Speaker 1>could be this next religious teacher, but he wasn't going

886
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:18.519
<v Speaker 1>to do it. He had to have the call until

887
00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:21.280
<v Speaker 1>I was self actualized would he do it? And it

888
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:24.679
<v Speaker 1>never happened. But he was so hopeful. So all these

889
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:28.440
<v Speaker 1>traditions and it went to the east could be Daoism.

890
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Buddhism gave him this hope, this idea of Christ's consciousness

891
00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:36.280
<v Speaker 1>and a way to get closer to God and also

892
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:39.320
<v Speaker 1>answer the big questions because he always wondered, well, why

893
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:44.039
<v Speaker 1>did my twin die? We came out thirty minutes apart,

894
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Why did he die? Why was I born poor? If

895
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:49.599
<v Speaker 1>I'd been rich, we could have afforded a hospital and

896
00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:52.519
<v Speaker 1>st I had at home? Why did I get stinking rich?

897
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:55.719
<v Speaker 1>But other people in the South are forgotten and they

898
00:49:55.800 --> 00:49:58.840
<v Speaker 1>lived in Squalor, so he was always trying to figure

899
00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:01.880
<v Speaker 1>out the nature, evil and God and all that.

900
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:04.960
<v Speaker 8>Was there an issue with the second baby's delivery.

901
00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:10.360
<v Speaker 9>Was there like a placenta detachment possibly, and that's why

902
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:11.880
<v Speaker 9>she couldn't have any more kids.

903
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:12.280
<v Speaker 8>Do you know?

904
00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think we know. I mean, yeah, it's

905
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:16.800
<v Speaker 1>a good question, but.

906
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:18.840
<v Speaker 8>I am a nurse. I was just kidding, I know.

907
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:22.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But one thing you find out is that if

908
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:24.440
<v Speaker 1>you grew up in the Great Depression in the South,

909
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:27.119
<v Speaker 1>you were forgotten. Doesn't matter what race you were. It

910
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:31.719
<v Speaker 1>was horrible. It was like North Korea living so records

911
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:35.400
<v Speaker 1>aren't bad. And these people, like they said, where Elvis lived,

912
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:37.679
<v Speaker 1>it was on the wrong side of the wrong side

913
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:41.639
<v Speaker 1>of the tracks, so there was not records. He couldn't

914
00:50:41.639 --> 00:50:43.960
<v Speaker 1>afford They couldn't afford a hospital, so they had to

915
00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:46.440
<v Speaker 1>have it in his little house. That was probably not

916
00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:51.239
<v Speaker 1>a midwife. Jesse came first, right, Jesse came first. He

917
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:55.000
<v Speaker 1>came out stillborn. Elvis came out thirty five minutes later.

918
00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:57.360
<v Speaker 1>They put him in an oven because they were so parent,

919
00:50:57.400 --> 00:50:59.960
<v Speaker 1>they heated it up, that's how paranoid. Then they went

920
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:04.480
<v Speaker 1>to the hospital and then they simply told Gladys, that's it,

921
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:08.280
<v Speaker 1>You're done. So that was It was a horrible existence

922
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:10.920
<v Speaker 1>because there was one time when Elvis had a fever

923
00:51:11.039 --> 00:51:13.559
<v Speaker 1>and tonsilitis and they went to the doctor's like, I

924
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:16.079
<v Speaker 1>can't do anything for you. So they had to do

925
00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:18.639
<v Speaker 1>like a prayer circle around them and in a few

926
00:51:18.679 --> 00:51:21.679
<v Speaker 1>hours they healed them. So you wonder why these people

927
00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:23.880
<v Speaker 1>were leaning so much on the Holy Spirit a lot,

928
00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:27.360
<v Speaker 1>because it's it's amazing this happened in this country. I

929
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:30.480
<v Speaker 1>still even when I went to Mississippi. I went to Memphis,

930
00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:34.679
<v Speaker 1>driving through Mississippi, I'm like, God, damn, what's wrong with

931
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:38.280
<v Speaker 1>this country. These people are forgotten. These people deserve better.

932
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:41.960
<v Speaker 1>We have all this money for wars, but we have

933
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:44.920
<v Speaker 1>these people in places like Mississippi, good people, and they're

934
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:46.239
<v Speaker 1>just they're forgotten.

935
00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:50.480
<v Speaker 14>And Elvis, yeah, projects with no doors in the windows.

936
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:52.480
<v Speaker 14>It's yeah, pretty bad.

937
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:54.679
<v Speaker 1>It's incredible. It's incredible.

938
00:51:55.639 --> 00:51:55.800
<v Speaker 17>Man.

939
00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:58.519
<v Speaker 3>I add on something some of the themes of what

940
00:51:58.519 --> 00:52:01.840
<v Speaker 3>you've been saying, Miguel Is, I think he really kind

941
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:07.639
<v Speaker 3>of did succeed as you're describing his initiate character of

942
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:11.159
<v Speaker 3>that trickster god in a lot of ways. As we

943
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:14.360
<v Speaker 3>refer to the politics of the nation. Back then it

944
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:19.599
<v Speaker 3>was divided in a very physical, ordained manner, and really

945
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:27.239
<v Speaker 3>like we couldn't even conceptualize combining Karate with Hinduism and

946
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:30.440
<v Speaker 3>all the and Manly p Hall and all these things

947
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:34.079
<v Speaker 3>that he was combining in what we consider today to

948
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:37.159
<v Speaker 3>be a really Americana kind of thing, but back then

949
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:42.039
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't. And as occultist, I think we all embody

950
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:47.159
<v Speaker 3>finding at least the comparative, if not the syncretic, which

951
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:53.800
<v Speaker 3>he actually put forth, a syncretic esoteric possibility like, oh yeah,

952
00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:57.000
<v Speaker 3>I can be like Bruce Lee and Manley p Hall

953
00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:00.840
<v Speaker 3>or what have you? Even a baseball player and kung

954
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:04.000
<v Speaker 3>fu any number of things. So he really, in a

955
00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:07.360
<v Speaker 3>lot of ways did initiate us into that potential.

956
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:11.039
<v Speaker 1>Well said, no, I couldn't have said it better. True. Again,

957
00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:13.000
<v Speaker 1>he was the lord of the crossroads. He brought all

958
00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:17.239
<v Speaker 1>this stuff, made it acceptable, even black music. He did

959
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:19.800
<v Speaker 1>something that almost got him killed. He dated a black

960
00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:24.039
<v Speaker 1>girl in high school right the sheriffs almost ended his life.

961
00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:27.679
<v Speaker 1>He would go if he wanted to listen to gospel music,

962
00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:30.400
<v Speaker 1>black house, he would go to this church. He was

963
00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:35.039
<v Speaker 1>the one at the back isolated, segregated from the congrege.

964
00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:37.320
<v Speaker 1>And he didn't care because he was like, this shit

965
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:39.960
<v Speaker 1>is good. I don't give a shit, and he brought

966
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:43.119
<v Speaker 1>it out. You know, it's same with spirituality, like I said,

967
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:47.960
<v Speaker 1>martial arts so much and even the media. Elvis knew

968
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:50.920
<v Speaker 1>how to use media and technology. He knew the importance

969
00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:54.880
<v Speaker 1>of TV, satellites, the jukebox. You know. He made it

970
00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:57.880
<v Speaker 1>cool for the population to say, hey, this is not so,

971
00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:01.039
<v Speaker 1>let's embrace this stuff. Let's and let's see it.

972
00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:05.719
<v Speaker 12>What did he do with like these extraterrestrial encounters. Did

973
00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:08.639
<v Speaker 12>he like try to tell people about him? Was it

974
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:11.440
<v Speaker 12>like hush hush, Like I think that's kind of dope,

975
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:20.800
<v Speaker 12>Like Elvis, you know, King of Rock, extraterrestrial, extraordinary shaman, occultist,

976
00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:22.119
<v Speaker 12>Like what the heck?

977
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:28.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? And he had a great voice. Sorry, right, they're excited,

978
00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:33.760
<v Speaker 1>but no. He again, he was so ahead of the

979
00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:37.519
<v Speaker 1>curve when it came to UFOs. By the sixties, he

980
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:43.360
<v Speaker 1>believed in let's keep you quiet. By the sixties he

981
00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:48.639
<v Speaker 1>already thought had very sophisticated views on UFOs. For example,

982
00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:50.920
<v Speaker 1>he was one of the first people to read Vondanikin's

983
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Chariots of the gods. So he's like, maybe we are

984
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:58.719
<v Speaker 1>ancient aliens. He said, he very much was voiced, very loudly,

985
00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:02.039
<v Speaker 1>how the aliens by where were us from destroying ourselves?

986
00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:04.599
<v Speaker 1>And he believed in the star seed. I mean, these

987
00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:07.599
<v Speaker 1>were ideas like us that he sort of balanced out.

988
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:11.679
<v Speaker 1>He'd read Ezekiel. He read Ezekiel, and he's like, these

989
00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:15.760
<v Speaker 1>these wheels gotta be aliens. So very he read the

990
00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:18.679
<v Speaker 1>Book of Enoch and wondered, well, maybe they're aliens, you know,

991
00:55:18.800 --> 00:55:23.599
<v Speaker 1>kind of today where the religion and eufology are no

992
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:26.800
<v Speaker 1>longer separated. Back then it was very separated. He was

993
00:55:26.840 --> 00:55:30.320
<v Speaker 1>one of the first pioneers to do that. And he

994
00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:34.079
<v Speaker 1>always talked to you know. Again, he had his experiences

995
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:36.360
<v Speaker 1>of seeing Eufo's lights and all that. He added with

996
00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:39.760
<v Speaker 1>his bodyguards as spiritual teachers, so he would talk to

997
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:42.199
<v Speaker 1>them about it. But he'd never made it like he

998
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:44.960
<v Speaker 1>never went to the press or anything like that. It wasn't.

999
00:55:45.280 --> 00:55:49.280
<v Speaker 1>He used to say, yeah, even me, They'll think I'm

1000
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:52.840
<v Speaker 1>crazy and put me away. And so he was very,

1001
00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:56.639
<v Speaker 1>very sophisticated in how we saw eupology. He read the

1002
00:55:56.639 --> 00:56:00.599
<v Speaker 1>Book of Urantia, he read, Yeah, he was very versed

1003
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:03.400
<v Speaker 1>in the whole UFO thing, very very.

1004
00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:09.800
<v Speaker 12>So did he think we like, did he believe in

1005
00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:13.119
<v Speaker 12>heaven and stuff? Like, we're what did What were his

1006
00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:13.920
<v Speaker 12>thoughts on that?

1007
00:56:14.280 --> 00:56:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Like, Yeah, that's a good one he thought, And it's

1008
00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:21.920
<v Speaker 1>actually similar to what the Gnostics thought. He thought, you

1009
00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:26.840
<v Speaker 1>are incarnated, but it's all your choice or adventure. If

1010
00:56:26.880 --> 00:56:32.920
<v Speaker 1>you choose the material path every reincarnation, you're gonna go down, down, down,

1011
00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:36.559
<v Speaker 1>and eventually just poof disintegrate. But if you keep getting

1012
00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:42.559
<v Speaker 1>better every life, eventually you'll reach whatever, the light, God,

1013
00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:45.360
<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call it. So it's a very

1014
00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:48.559
<v Speaker 1>sophisticated I think the Gnostics had that idea that you know,

1015
00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:52.440
<v Speaker 1>it's your choice, you get to choose, nobody else chooses

1016
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:53.320
<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen.

1017
00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:57.199
<v Speaker 12>So do you think like Lisa Marie like in her

1018
00:56:57.280 --> 00:57:01.320
<v Speaker 12>mom obviously, like you think growing up with this guy

1019
00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:04.480
<v Speaker 12>as a dad, you might have some of these same

1020
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:08.079
<v Speaker 12>like beliefs and stuff. But they went totally left, they

1021
00:57:08.119 --> 00:57:11.119
<v Speaker 12>went scientology. It just seems odd to me. It's like

1022
00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:13.800
<v Speaker 12>if you had a cool dad like this literally it's

1023
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:16.519
<v Speaker 12>Elvis And then she married Michael Jackson for a while,

1024
00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:19.239
<v Speaker 12>Like I don't know what's going on with her, but scientology,

1025
00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:20.800
<v Speaker 12>Like really, I don't get it.

1026
00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:25.280
<v Speaker 1>They were predators and he made more sense, yeah than

1027
00:57:25.320 --> 00:57:27.639
<v Speaker 1>the marriage with Michael Jackson.

1028
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:28.920
<v Speaker 8>I was like, what the hell was that?

1029
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:32.320
<v Speaker 13>Like, literally, what is going on with her?

1030
00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:34.880
<v Speaker 17>Aliens?

1031
00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:35.159
<v Speaker 11>Right?

1032
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah she was but she was a young kid. Yeah,

1033
00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:46.119
<v Speaker 1>she was young. And uh, I don't want to talk

1034
00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:50.960
<v Speaker 1>for Priscilla. When you look at Elvis fandom, he is Uh.

1035
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's fair or not. It's kind

1036
00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:56.199
<v Speaker 1>of if you guys watch up Breaking Bad. You ever

1037
00:57:56.280 --> 00:57:59.679
<v Speaker 1>noticed everybody hates Skyler, but that's the last person you

1038
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:03.320
<v Speaker 1>should hate. It's like there's so many other villains. You know,

1039
00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:06.360
<v Speaker 1>Walter White is far more evil than his wife. But

1040
00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:09.719
<v Speaker 1>so I try not to judge, but list about Priscilla

1041
00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:13.960
<v Speaker 1>is seen as almost the devil with in the Elvis fandom,

1042
00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Lady Macbeth narcissist.

1043
00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:18.400
<v Speaker 8>So she did have that red hair.

1044
00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Though. Maybe you had to survive Elvis because when you

1045
00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:27.840
<v Speaker 1>lived with Elvis, it was always chaos every day. I

1046
00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:31.679
<v Speaker 1>mean there was press, celebrities, always something going on. Elvis

1047
00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:34.239
<v Speaker 1>was always out of control and he did what he

1048
00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:36.159
<v Speaker 1>wanted to do. I mean he'd do stuff like he'd

1049
00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:38.719
<v Speaker 1>wake up and say, I'm in the mood for this

1050
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:42.480
<v Speaker 1>peanut butter bright peanut butter sandwich in Denver. You know,

1051
00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:45.360
<v Speaker 1>light up the planes. We're leaving in an hour. That's

1052
00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:48.800
<v Speaker 1>a kind of life he led. It was just Vegas.

1053
00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:52.920
<v Speaker 1>It was constant chaos. To be in Elvis's orbit, regardless

1054
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:57.199
<v Speaker 1>whether you're a bodyguard a family member, was just it

1055
00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:01.000
<v Speaker 1>was out of control. It was exhaust It was wonderful,

1056
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:04.079
<v Speaker 1>it was a bless but you could barely. I think

1057
00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:06.679
<v Speaker 1>that's the reason people didn't say more, because it was

1058
00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:09.119
<v Speaker 1>just there was so much going on. How could you

1059
00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:12.559
<v Speaker 1>even stop to talk to the press about UFOs or something.

1060
00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:13.880
<v Speaker 13>It's yeah, she.

1061
00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:16.679
<v Speaker 12>In her book, she kind of makes him sound like

1062
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:20.119
<v Speaker 12>a real pos I'm not gonna lie.

1063
00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:22.679
<v Speaker 13>Like when I read her book, I was like, fuck this.

1064
00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:27.199
<v Speaker 12>Guy, like this guy which one Lisa Priscilla or Priscilla's book.

1065
00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:30.440
<v Speaker 13>It was kind of like, I mean, obviously there's.

1066
00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:34.639
<v Speaker 12>After I read her book, I was like, oh, hell

1067
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:39.599
<v Speaker 12>though some of the stuffy like you know, but you

1068
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:41.519
<v Speaker 12>get to a certain point where if you get married

1069
00:59:41.559 --> 00:59:45.519
<v Speaker 12>that young and you have that weird lifestyle, you're gonna

1070
00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:48.000
<v Speaker 12>at some point not like each other anymore.

1071
00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and you have to and also you have

1072
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:54.480
<v Speaker 1>to take it with a grain of salt. Like there's

1073
00:59:54.519 --> 00:59:56.960
<v Speaker 1>this in the first edition of her book. There's a

1074
00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:01.559
<v Speaker 1>scene where before they broke up, Elvis essayed her that

1075
01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:04.480
<v Speaker 1>she backtracked and took it out because she said, I

1076
01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:07.159
<v Speaker 1>was just angry at him. And then there's a like

1077
01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:09.679
<v Speaker 1>another one where she says, Elvis always wanted me to

1078
01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:11.519
<v Speaker 1>have a buffont and you control whatever.

1079
01:00:11.599 --> 01:00:13.119
<v Speaker 13>Yes, she did say that, but when you.

1080
01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:15.639
<v Speaker 1>Look at pictures of her, she's got her hair down

1081
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:19.639
<v Speaker 1>at the press or she'd say Elvis didn't let allow

1082
01:00:19.719 --> 01:00:24.039
<v Speaker 1>me to leave Graceland. But there's pictures of her in

1083
01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:28.239
<v Speaker 1>New York and Jet saying so again, you know things

1084
01:00:28.239 --> 01:00:32.440
<v Speaker 1>that happened between couples. Yeah, you want to take aside.

1085
01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I try not to, you know what I mean. Yeah,

1086
01:00:34.519 --> 01:00:38.239
<v Speaker 1>he was abusive, she was abusive. He was not faithful,

1087
01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:42.239
<v Speaker 1>she was not faithful. It's a I don't know there

1088
01:00:42.280 --> 01:00:44.280
<v Speaker 1>there again, Elvis was cursed.

1089
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:46.239
<v Speaker 8>And she was.

1090
01:00:46.559 --> 01:00:51.039
<v Speaker 12>I was going to say, I mean, she was so young,

1091
01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:55.400
<v Speaker 12>so so young when they got married. And obviously if

1092
01:00:55.880 --> 01:00:58.280
<v Speaker 12>it's like that thing, like if everybody wants to screw

1093
01:00:58.360 --> 01:01:02.760
<v Speaker 12>your husband, I mean, that's that's that's not a good

1094
01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:03.400
<v Speaker 12>place to be.

1095
01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:07.320
<v Speaker 8>Well, he didn't want to give it to her, So.

1096
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:11.119
<v Speaker 12>That's what I'm saying is like it's like everybody wants

1097
01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:14.000
<v Speaker 12>to screw him and I can't even get any Like

1098
01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:17.280
<v Speaker 12>what is this about?

1099
01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:18.440
<v Speaker 8>Master came in?

1100
01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:27.119
<v Speaker 12>You're right, probably some of his spiritual beliefs.

1101
01:01:25.559 --> 01:01:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Margaret and she's at home.

1102
01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:30.280
<v Speaker 12>Do you think but do you think that's part of

1103
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:32.760
<v Speaker 12>his spiritualism or do you think that's part of like

1104
01:01:33.599 --> 01:01:36.480
<v Speaker 12>him running around on her? Because I've always heard like,

1105
01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:41.000
<v Speaker 12>you shouldn't give up your life essence. Every time you

1106
01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:43.519
<v Speaker 12>sleep with somebody, you're giving up like your life essence.

1107
01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:46.000
<v Speaker 12>This is like a big spirituality thing. And he really

1108
01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:49.280
<v Speaker 12>didn't have sex with Priscilla, like hardly ever maybe to

1109
01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:51.239
<v Speaker 12>have Lisa Marie and then that was it.

1110
01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:54.000
<v Speaker 8>After that, didn't he do sex? Magic though?

1111
01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:54.280
<v Speaker 17>With?

1112
01:01:55.159 --> 01:01:55.599
<v Speaker 20>Right up?

1113
01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:57.239
<v Speaker 13>Like there's gotta be something to that.

1114
01:01:58.039 --> 01:02:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, here's one. Yeah, one theory states again because

1115
01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:07.000
<v Speaker 1>remember he's got the mommy issue, bad mommy issues. So

1116
01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:11.679
<v Speaker 1>it is said that he could not have sex with

1117
01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:15.800
<v Speaker 1>women who had conceived children too much of a mother archetype.

1118
01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:19.920
<v Speaker 1>That was an issue. Now and there are some there's

1119
01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:24.360
<v Speaker 1>evidence for it, but then there's evidence like Priscilla was

1120
01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:27.760
<v Speaker 1>in Peters Morgan and she talked about when he went

1121
01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:31.360
<v Speaker 1>to Vegas in the seventies they had the best fling ever.

1122
01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:35.760
<v Speaker 1>So it's hard, but that was an issue too, they

1123
01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:39.000
<v Speaker 1>say with Elvis. And also you have to think too

1124
01:02:39.119 --> 01:02:42.679
<v Speaker 1>is people who lose their twins at a young age.

1125
01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:49.079
<v Speaker 1>Twin less survivors are always they're very they're workaholics, they

1126
01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:54.400
<v Speaker 1>are seekers, but they are very self destructive, addiction prone

1127
01:02:54.760 --> 01:03:00.239
<v Speaker 1>and can never have normal relationships. Then, of course horse

1128
01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:05.159
<v Speaker 1>is a problem. People who have enmeshment issues, lethal enmeshment issues,

1129
01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:09.559
<v Speaker 1>same thing. They have a propensity for addiction, they're self

1130
01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:13.320
<v Speaker 1>destructive and they can't have normal relations So Elvis had

1131
01:03:13.360 --> 01:03:16.599
<v Speaker 1>the double whammy of you know what I mean and

1132
01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:20.079
<v Speaker 1>even admitted I think in like before he died, he

1133
01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:23.960
<v Speaker 1>looked at his friend Charlie Hodges and he quoted from Khalil,

1134
01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:26.199
<v Speaker 1>your brain's love. You know, love will crown you and

1135
01:03:26.199 --> 01:03:29.639
<v Speaker 1>crucify it. And he told them I realized, I'm forty

1136
01:03:29.679 --> 01:03:31.880
<v Speaker 1>two and I've never been able. I've never loved a

1137
01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:35.760
<v Speaker 1>woman properly. I can't believe I've just learning this now,

1138
01:03:36.119 --> 01:03:38.039
<v Speaker 1>he was going to get married to gingder Alden, but

1139
01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:40.519
<v Speaker 1>he finally had forty two was like, holy mother, I've

1140
01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:44.719
<v Speaker 1>just wasted my entire life and I've got to fix this.

1141
01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:46.800
<v Speaker 1>But you know, time around now I'm shocked.

1142
01:03:46.920 --> 01:03:49.360
<v Speaker 9>I'm shocked he didn't marry an older woman with his

1143
01:03:49.559 --> 01:03:51.480
<v Speaker 9>whole situation with the end.

1144
01:03:51.559 --> 01:03:57.039
<v Speaker 12>Well, it'd have to be an older woman who never conceived.

1145
01:03:57.360 --> 01:04:00.559
<v Speaker 12>There's a lot of them out the well in that

1146
01:04:00.679 --> 01:04:04.280
<v Speaker 12>look like his mom, who'd never can see who was

1147
01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:08.000
<v Speaker 12>in ritualism.

1148
01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:14.800
<v Speaker 7>That's a very very it's just like such a small slover.

1149
01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:17.679
<v Speaker 2>The population to choose from right there.

1150
01:04:20.519 --> 01:04:23.599
<v Speaker 12>So you said, like he predicted his death, and he

1151
01:04:23.639 --> 01:04:25.239
<v Speaker 12>would like who did he tell?

1152
01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:27.920
<v Speaker 13>Did he like have journals or something that somebody went

1153
01:04:27.960 --> 01:04:28.880
<v Speaker 13>back and read, or.

1154
01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he told people things he was like doing. He

1155
01:04:33.880 --> 01:04:38.360
<v Speaker 1>was acting differently, like making sure that documents and contracts

1156
01:04:38.360 --> 01:04:41.719
<v Speaker 1>were set. He remembered telling a friend out of nowhere,

1157
01:04:42.119 --> 01:04:45.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, angels fly because they take themselves so lightly.

1158
01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:47.760
<v Speaker 1>And the way he said it to his friend freaked

1159
01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:51.159
<v Speaker 1>him out. He would drive from Memphis to Mississippi with

1160
01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:54.159
<v Speaker 1>a friend at night and he would be looking under

1161
01:04:54.199 --> 01:04:58.280
<v Speaker 1>the house for his lost marbles, just very strange behavior.

1162
01:04:59.199 --> 01:05:02.119
<v Speaker 1>And he he dropped all these hints and I showed

1163
01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:05.800
<v Speaker 1>them in the book. But the most obvious one is

1164
01:05:05.840 --> 01:05:09.480
<v Speaker 1>two days before he passed, he was in his room

1165
01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:13.480
<v Speaker 1>just you know, on drugs and pain, just in his bed.

1166
01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:15.679
<v Speaker 1>But he was reading all these occult books and the

1167
01:05:15.719 --> 01:05:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Bible and all that. And his stepbrother David Stanley, called

1168
01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:22.800
<v Speaker 1>his stepbrother, David Stanley to talk to him. His stepbrother

1169
01:05:22.880 --> 01:05:25.679
<v Speaker 1>needed advice. And then he turned to his brother and

1170
01:05:25.719 --> 01:05:28.400
<v Speaker 1>he said, I want to tell you something. In two days,

1171
01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I am going to be on a higher plane. And

1172
01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:33.440
<v Speaker 1>his stepbrothers, yeah, we got to catch a plane to

1173
01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:37.079
<v Speaker 1>Portland for the concert. And Elvis like rolled his eyes like,

1174
01:05:37.199 --> 01:05:40.440
<v Speaker 1>hey pearls, you know, pearls for pigs, and you know,

1175
01:05:40.519 --> 01:05:42.760
<v Speaker 1>said I love you and I'll talk to you. But

1176
01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:45.400
<v Speaker 1>he was right. Two days he was not around.

1177
01:05:47.960 --> 01:05:50.920
<v Speaker 12>That's kind of crazy, actually, because I thought he was

1178
01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:52.880
<v Speaker 12>like at the end of his life, he was kind

1179
01:05:52.880 --> 01:05:56.320
<v Speaker 12>of like sat and bloated and useless.

1180
01:05:56.880 --> 01:06:00.199
<v Speaker 13>Sorry go ahead to Ethan, Oh no.

1181
01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:03.480
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Sorry, my computer was lacking. I heard a

1182
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:07.119
<v Speaker 3>rumor that he also had some experiences when he was

1183
01:06:07.159 --> 01:06:10.800
<v Speaker 3>a child. Obviously these would be more difficult to corroborate.

1184
01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:16.360
<v Speaker 3>But were there stories about these UFO experiences when he

1185
01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:21.079
<v Speaker 3>was a child, and can you break down the Lenin

1186
01:06:21.400 --> 01:06:27.599
<v Speaker 3>and Jesus cloud formation? Did you hear about that?

1187
01:06:28.360 --> 01:06:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I haven't heard anything about UFOs when he was

1188
01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:37.199
<v Speaker 1>a child, So that one I haven't heard. What was

1189
01:06:37.239 --> 01:06:39.199
<v Speaker 1>the second question? Before the Lenin one?

1190
01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:44.400
<v Speaker 3>I saw when he was driving between Memphis and LA

1191
01:06:44.960 --> 01:06:49.800
<v Speaker 3>that he saw a cloud formation of Lenin and then Jesus.

1192
01:06:49.880 --> 01:06:51.280
<v Speaker 3>If that's I believe right?

1193
01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:57.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it was. He was He had been practicing spirituality.

1194
01:06:57.159 --> 01:07:00.159
<v Speaker 1>He was very earnest and reading a lot, and are

1195
01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:03.320
<v Speaker 1>driving from Memphis to LA. He didn't like to fly

1196
01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:06.079
<v Speaker 1>for some reason for years, so they drive these mobile

1197
01:07:06.079 --> 01:07:09.519
<v Speaker 1>homes and he was driving and he was frustrated and

1198
01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:12.159
<v Speaker 1>he got angry at his spiritual teacher and said, look,

1199
01:07:12.639 --> 01:07:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing this thing. I don't feel I'm getting closer

1200
01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:17.760
<v Speaker 1>to God. And his teacher said, gave him the zen

1201
01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:21.559
<v Speaker 1>parable where the teacher puts and tells the student to

1202
01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:24.679
<v Speaker 1>port and the water comes out and the students like

1203
01:07:24.719 --> 01:07:27.360
<v Speaker 1>freaking out, and said, yes, your cup is too full.

1204
01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:29.599
<v Speaker 1>The only way for God to come in is you

1205
01:07:29.639 --> 01:07:32.519
<v Speaker 1>got to empty yourself. So you need to chill out

1206
01:07:32.519 --> 01:07:35.719
<v Speaker 1>with the studying and all that and just let God

1207
01:07:35.800 --> 01:07:38.440
<v Speaker 1>come to you when he's ready. So then they had

1208
01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:42.719
<v Speaker 1>this discussion. They're driving through Arizona and he and his

1209
01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:46.360
<v Speaker 1>spiritual teacher, Larry Gilli, look up and they both see

1210
01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:49.239
<v Speaker 1>the clouds are forming and it turns into the ultimate

1211
01:07:49.760 --> 01:07:53.079
<v Speaker 1>visage of evil, which back then was not letting. It

1212
01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:57.480
<v Speaker 1>was Stalin, So it became the face of Stalin mocking

1213
01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:00.800
<v Speaker 1>and always pulls to one side. Remember there's a whole

1214
01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:03.840
<v Speaker 1>convoy of these. And he runs into the desert with

1215
01:08:03.920 --> 01:08:08.039
<v Speaker 1>Larry and he's like facing this thing, and Elvis is

1216
01:08:08.079 --> 01:08:12.599
<v Speaker 1>basically saying, you know, I just realized I am not empty,

1217
01:08:12.760 --> 01:08:14.719
<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of evil in me, and how

1218
01:08:14.800 --> 01:08:17.880
<v Speaker 1>evil is showing itself in the world, in the in

1219
01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:22.680
<v Speaker 1>the sky. So he went to this this demon or whatever.

1220
01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:25.239
<v Speaker 1>He said, look, if this evil is within me, destroy me,

1221
01:08:25.720 --> 01:08:29.079
<v Speaker 1>I get it, take me off the chessboard. I wasn't

1222
01:08:29.079 --> 01:08:32.399
<v Speaker 1>able to do it this lifetime. I'm humbly, you know,

1223
01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:36.159
<v Speaker 1>bowing down. And then suddenly this evil went down into

1224
01:08:36.239 --> 01:08:38.720
<v Speaker 1>but turned into Jesus, and he was filled with the

1225
01:08:38.720 --> 01:08:41.640
<v Speaker 1>power of Christ and he felt this bliss that he

1226
01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:45.119
<v Speaker 1>had never felt before. And again his friend Larry was

1227
01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:48.399
<v Speaker 1>there and they both started hugging each other, and like Elvis,

1228
01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:51.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll never doubt. I know there is a God.

1229
01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:54.359
<v Speaker 1>I know there is a purpose. So it was a

1230
01:08:54.439 --> 01:08:58.399
<v Speaker 1>very powerful mystic experience that again, you know, kept him

1231
01:08:58.439 --> 01:09:01.119
<v Speaker 1>going and kept him with his study for the rest

1232
01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:02.960
<v Speaker 1>of his life. And like I say in the book,

1233
01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:06.960
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because philip Ate Dick, not too far away

1234
01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:11.000
<v Speaker 1>around that time, had the same vision, except Dick was

1235
01:09:11.159 --> 01:09:14.000
<v Speaker 1>walking to a place he used to write and he

1236
01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:17.159
<v Speaker 1>looked up and then the clouds formed into this metallic

1237
01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:21.319
<v Speaker 1>demiurge creature looking down on him, laughing at him, and

1238
01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Dig freaked out and ran off. And the parallels that

1239
01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:28.439
<v Speaker 1>they both it brought him closer to Jesus, and it

1240
01:09:28.520 --> 01:09:32.920
<v Speaker 1>brought him closer to studying the occult. So interesting parallels

1241
01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:33.439
<v Speaker 1>right there.

1242
01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:35.439
<v Speaker 2>One thing I.

1243
01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:36.880
<v Speaker 7>Wanted to ask is the guy I heard you bring

1244
01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:39.720
<v Speaker 7>up it's probably in the book as well, is his

1245
01:09:39.840 --> 01:09:42.640
<v Speaker 7>lightning bolt symbolism. I think you said it kind of

1246
01:09:42.680 --> 01:09:44.960
<v Speaker 7>came from It might have been Marvel, which had a cult,

1247
01:09:45.560 --> 01:09:46.760
<v Speaker 7>you know, connotations behind it.

1248
01:09:47.560 --> 01:09:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean one of his big heroes was

1249
01:09:50.960 --> 01:09:55.039
<v Speaker 1>Captain Marvel. He was a big comic book reader. And

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01:09:55.079 --> 01:09:57.119
<v Speaker 1>by Captain Marvel, I don't mean like the one we

1251
01:09:57.239 --> 01:09:59.159
<v Speaker 1>know today, the one that you've seen in the movies

1252
01:09:59.159 --> 01:10:02.720
<v Speaker 1>that well you do the Shazam. That's who Captain Marvel

1253
01:10:02.880 --> 01:10:06.439
<v Speaker 1>was in the forties and fifties. And the light has

1254
01:10:06.439 --> 01:10:09.560
<v Speaker 1>the lightning bulb. It's a Shazam. And of all the

1255
01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:13.760
<v Speaker 1>heroes that became what he idolized, he was open about

1256
01:10:13.800 --> 01:10:16.239
<v Speaker 1>it was Captain Marvel. That's the most occult hero. This

1257
01:10:16.399 --> 01:10:18.800
<v Speaker 1>is a being. You have. This guy go sees a

1258
01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:21.760
<v Speaker 1>wizard and the wizard gives him the power of Solomon

1259
01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:26.159
<v Speaker 1>and Hercules and Atlas and Ermes and he says, says

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01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:29.359
<v Speaker 1>am and suddenly and Elvis just loved it. He used

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01:10:29.439 --> 01:10:32.880
<v Speaker 1>to think it was a story of, you know, especially

1262
01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:36.279
<v Speaker 1>Captain Marvel junior, of a kid who can turn into superhero.

1263
01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:39.039
<v Speaker 1>And he sort of always said if he can turn

1264
01:10:39.079 --> 01:10:42.560
<v Speaker 1>into superhero, I can. But he cheat. He did choose

1265
01:10:42.600 --> 01:10:44.640
<v Speaker 1>the most magical one and it kept him.

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01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:44.720
<v Speaker 9>So.

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01:10:45.119 --> 01:10:48.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Lightning Bult became like his logo, He's taking

1268
01:10:48.479 --> 01:10:52.520
<v Speaker 1>care of business and the Lightning Bult. It was extremely important.

1269
01:10:52.560 --> 01:10:55.279
<v Speaker 1>And when you look at his Vegas costume. It makes

1270
01:10:55.319 --> 01:10:58.079
<v Speaker 1>sense because when you see him with the short cape

1271
01:10:58.079 --> 01:11:01.079
<v Speaker 1>and everything else, you realize, wait, as he's dressing up

1272
01:11:01.159 --> 01:11:05.399
<v Speaker 1>like Shazam, that's which he was. It was like his hero.

1273
01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:09.279
<v Speaker 1>So it's a Captain Marvel. Is fascinating because the writer

1274
01:11:09.920 --> 01:11:14.479
<v Speaker 1>behind Captain Marvel or Shazam Odo Binder, This guy was

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01:11:14.600 --> 01:11:18.119
<v Speaker 1>steeped into eufology and the occult and all that. I mean,

1276
01:11:18.159 --> 01:11:22.560
<v Speaker 1>it's a fascinating connection. And I'm writing now to the

1277
01:11:22.600 --> 01:11:26.159
<v Speaker 1>other book, Elvis two point zero, which is David Bowie,

1278
01:11:26.479 --> 01:11:29.159
<v Speaker 1>where I just realized they're both the same character.

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01:11:29.479 --> 01:11:34.199
<v Speaker 7>If you think he influenced David Bowie, I was actually

1280
01:11:34.199 --> 01:11:34.760
<v Speaker 7>going to ask.

1281
01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:39.079
<v Speaker 1>You that, oh he is the light blow too, blow

1282
01:11:39.119 --> 01:11:43.039
<v Speaker 1>by blow. I mean, Bowie knew they knew each other.

1283
01:11:43.560 --> 01:11:46.359
<v Speaker 1>Bowie knew what Elvis was doing and tapped into the

1284
01:11:46.479 --> 01:11:50.439
<v Speaker 1>same powers. In fact, Captain Marvel is behind Bowie too,

1285
01:11:50.800 --> 01:11:56.039
<v Speaker 1>Elvis Captain Marvel. There's this very weird nexus with Elvis Bowie,

1286
01:11:56.079 --> 01:11:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Captain Marvel, Philip K. Dick and Ridley Scott that is,

1287
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:03.439
<v Speaker 1>and William Burrows and all these cats, and it's it's

1288
01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:06.199
<v Speaker 1>pretty well, it's pure magic. It's almost like their own

1289
01:12:06.239 --> 01:12:07.399
<v Speaker 1>secret society.

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01:12:08.920 --> 01:12:11.319
<v Speaker 12>I've always thought that about Marvel. They put so much

1291
01:12:11.359 --> 01:12:15.920
<v Speaker 12>stuff in those movies. I mean it's almost like ridiculous.

1292
01:12:16.680 --> 01:12:18.640
<v Speaker 12>There's even the spinoff shows.

1293
01:12:18.640 --> 01:12:20.159
<v Speaker 13>I don't know if you watched any of them.

1294
01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:23.399
<v Speaker 12>They're all like on the Disney Plus or whatever. There's

1295
01:12:23.479 --> 01:12:27.439
<v Speaker 12>one called Moon Night and it's so oh my goodness,

1296
01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:29.479
<v Speaker 12>it's just retarded with it.

1297
01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:34.000
<v Speaker 13>But so you think, like David Bowie, he was like

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01:12:34.079 --> 01:12:35.359
<v Speaker 13>on the same kind of like.

1299
01:12:35.319 --> 01:12:38.560
<v Speaker 12>Spiritual wave of because he had kind of like an

1300
01:12:38.600 --> 01:12:42.199
<v Speaker 12>alter ego, right, Ziggy Stardust and many.

1301
01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:46.359
<v Speaker 2>Great white dudes, they reinvented themselves over and over and

1302
01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:47.960
<v Speaker 2>over again. Actually, Elvis and David.

1303
01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Bow very true. I mean it's almost like and Bowie

1304
01:12:51.960 --> 01:12:56.079
<v Speaker 1>admits it. When he started wearing Ziggy Starduck with the jumpsuits,

1305
01:12:56.119 --> 01:12:59.720
<v Speaker 1>He's like, Elvis, you know, it was always I'm gonna

1306
01:12:59.720 --> 01:13:02.840
<v Speaker 1>tap into the same magic. I mean, Bowie saw him

1307
01:13:02.840 --> 01:13:06.359
<v Speaker 1>in concert, and Bowie he went to his wife and

1308
01:13:06.399 --> 01:13:09.720
<v Speaker 1>he's like, wow, women are just throwing themselves at him,

1309
01:13:09.960 --> 01:13:12.479
<v Speaker 1>and his wife is like, just the first time you

1310
01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:16.119
<v Speaker 1>noticed that Elvis was sexy. And Bowie's like, yes, but

1311
01:13:16.399 --> 01:13:19.479
<v Speaker 1>now I know how and you know, and Elvis sent

1312
01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:26.399
<v Speaker 1>them notes. And the great secret is that before Elvis died,

1313
01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:29.159
<v Speaker 1>he actually called David Bowie said would you produce my

1314
01:13:29.399 --> 01:13:33.479
<v Speaker 1>next album? And Bowie was like, shit, yeah, but it

1315
01:13:33.560 --> 01:13:36.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't happen. You know, Bowie was just completely crushed. But yeah,

1316
01:13:36.840 --> 01:13:41.119
<v Speaker 1>the parallels between them two is it's very freaky, and

1317
01:13:41.159 --> 01:13:43.880
<v Speaker 1>there were influences a lot of the same books that

1318
01:13:43.960 --> 01:13:49.079
<v Speaker 1>were reading, and it's almost, yeah, two Tricksters, two Starman.

1319
01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:54.159
<v Speaker 1>If you know what I mean to space age messiahs,

1320
01:13:54.640 --> 01:13:55.039
<v Speaker 1>that's it.

1321
01:13:56.359 --> 01:13:59.039
<v Speaker 12>I think Bowie kind of wore it more openly though.

1322
01:13:59.079 --> 01:14:02.000
<v Speaker 12>I always had such a thing for him because he

1323
01:14:02.199 --> 01:14:06.720
<v Speaker 12>was like magical almost, like even his songs and like

1324
01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:10.800
<v Speaker 12>some of the lyrics are just like Starman. I always

1325
01:14:10.840 --> 01:14:13.720
<v Speaker 12>loved him, but Elvis kind of kept it more under wraps.

1326
01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:15.880
<v Speaker 12>I guess that's why I never knew this stuff about him,

1327
01:14:15.880 --> 01:14:19.800
<v Speaker 12>because if you look at his songs really there they

1328
01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:23.319
<v Speaker 12>are like the more like handholdy kind of bubblegum stuff.

1329
01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:25.720
<v Speaker 12>So and then you look at David Bowie and it's like,

1330
01:14:25.760 --> 01:14:28.720
<v Speaker 12>I think I just astro projected after that album.

1331
01:14:28.640 --> 01:14:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Like you all of not.

1332
01:14:31.640 --> 01:14:35.199
<v Speaker 21>When Elvis got into that Egyptian deal, though, he got

1333
01:14:35.640 --> 01:14:38.680
<v Speaker 21>and then I think they're just selling the sacred feminine,

1334
01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:41.880
<v Speaker 21>Like honestly, the way they're dressing everything, like they're just.

1335
01:14:44.159 --> 01:14:47.800
<v Speaker 22>What are some of his like topics besides that, like

1336
01:14:47.880 --> 01:14:52.079
<v Speaker 22>his like his hits that were besides like returned to

1337
01:14:52.159 --> 01:14:55.159
<v Speaker 22>Cinder and like stuff like that, Like what what we're

1338
01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:56.800
<v Speaker 22>like his egyptiany ones.

1339
01:14:57.560 --> 01:14:58.800
<v Speaker 13>Well, I just don't know.

1340
01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Again, if Elvis was looking at the powers underneath them,

1341
01:15:02.600 --> 01:15:05.479
<v Speaker 1>that's what he wanted to make it himself and to

1342
01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:10.279
<v Speaker 1>show these emotions. Again, his concerts were like Dionysian festivals

1343
01:15:10.319 --> 01:15:13.840
<v Speaker 1>where women were sometimes almost tore him apart. You know,

1344
01:15:14.159 --> 01:15:17.439
<v Speaker 1>when David Bowie found that secret he had women also

1345
01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:21.199
<v Speaker 1>just doing that. But it's really not You have to

1346
01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:25.439
<v Speaker 1>listen to some of his gospel music, Like I would

1347
01:15:25.479 --> 01:15:28.239
<v Speaker 1>advise you guys listen to the Life version of American

1348
01:15:28.319 --> 01:15:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Trilogy and he'll be like, now I know what it

1349
01:15:31.199 --> 01:15:33.479
<v Speaker 1>is to be an American. It's so touching. He talks

1350
01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:36.800
<v Speaker 1>about the cotton fields and struggling in the working class,

1351
01:15:36.880 --> 01:15:39.560
<v Speaker 1>and he makes it in a way that only Elvis

1352
01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:42.600
<v Speaker 1>could do it, or some like how great thou art?

1353
01:15:42.840 --> 01:15:46.119
<v Speaker 1>You feel this power that's just beyond you. I think

1354
01:15:46.199 --> 01:15:51.359
<v Speaker 1>that's Heartbreak Hotel, his first single, which people like John

1355
01:15:51.479 --> 01:15:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Lennon and Bob Dylan said when they heard that song

1356
01:15:54.479 --> 01:15:57.960
<v Speaker 1>it was like a spiritual awakening. Is a song about suicide.

1357
01:15:58.560 --> 01:16:00.479
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's about a guy who was into a

1358
01:16:00.520 --> 01:16:04.399
<v Speaker 1>hotel room. It's like I'm done. It's a very existentialist song.

1359
01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:07.680
<v Speaker 1>So you see this sort of yeah, you see this

1360
01:16:07.840 --> 01:16:10.000
<v Speaker 1>hidden all over the place, and a lot of his

1361
01:16:10.159 --> 01:16:13.359
<v Speaker 1>music and he had a couple of social songs If

1362
01:16:13.399 --> 01:16:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I Can Dream, beautiful song that he wrote in the ghetto,

1363
01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:21.640
<v Speaker 1>very powerful song. There's Yeah, there's something about Elvis. It's

1364
01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:24.920
<v Speaker 1>almost like you hear it for the first time and

1365
01:16:24.960 --> 01:16:27.720
<v Speaker 1>it's always new. I mean, the only thing, the only

1366
01:16:27.760 --> 01:16:29.960
<v Speaker 1>thing I can think of, because we all want newness,

1367
01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:32.760
<v Speaker 1>we want something like I've never heard this before. I

1368
01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:36.159
<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm reborn. It's fresh. Like first time I

1369
01:16:36.159 --> 01:16:39.199
<v Speaker 1>ever heard Running with the Devil by Van Halen, I

1370
01:16:39.239 --> 01:16:43.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, what is this. I've never heard this. I've

1371
01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:45.880
<v Speaker 1>never heard a sound like that, or Jimmy Hendrix. You

1372
01:16:45.960 --> 01:16:48.479
<v Speaker 1>hear his riffs and you go, oh my god, this

1373
01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:50.880
<v Speaker 1>is new. There is something new under the sun, and

1374
01:16:51.279 --> 01:16:54.439
<v Speaker 1>it just revitalized it. I feel that with Elvis, and

1375
01:16:54.479 --> 01:16:56.720
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways, Bowie too. It's like they're

1376
01:16:56.760 --> 01:17:00.520
<v Speaker 1>tapping deep like David Gilmour. You're like you're tapping deep

1377
01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:05.000
<v Speaker 1>into another realm, into an archetypal place, and you're bring

1378
01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:08.279
<v Speaker 1>these energies up. Elvis could just do it with his voice,

1379
01:17:08.319 --> 01:17:10.279
<v Speaker 1>but these guys could do it with their guitar.

1380
01:17:10.119 --> 01:17:12.279
<v Speaker 13>And his body too. Holy crap.

1381
01:17:12.920 --> 01:17:13.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1382
01:17:13.159 --> 01:17:17.119
<v Speaker 14>Well, and also with Elvis, he kind of, you know,

1383
01:17:17.279 --> 01:17:24.079
<v Speaker 14>crossed all the musical genres rockabilly, you know, surf music, gospel, country,

1384
01:17:24.319 --> 01:17:27.319
<v Speaker 14>rock and roll. Like I mean, he pretty much proliferated,

1385
01:17:27.399 --> 01:17:30.680
<v Speaker 14>you know, all the tendrils, you know, throw.

1386
01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Them all together in a stew and just said, this

1387
01:17:33.159 --> 01:17:34.800
<v Speaker 1>is it heaven and hell.

1388
01:17:36.520 --> 01:17:40.520
<v Speaker 13>I feel like him off a little bit. Sorry, go ahead.

1389
01:17:41.319 --> 01:17:42.239
<v Speaker 17>Oh well, you're probably right.

1390
01:17:42.279 --> 01:17:43.560
<v Speaker 16>A lot of people I think gripped him off a

1391
01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:44.760
<v Speaker 16>little bit, you know what I mean, because he had

1392
01:17:44.760 --> 01:17:46.319
<v Speaker 16>an unrivaled stage presence.

1393
01:17:46.920 --> 01:17:48.600
<v Speaker 17>Maybe it was magical, who.

1394
01:17:48.439 --> 01:17:51.680
<v Speaker 8>Knows, Maybe he had a talisman in his pocket.

1395
01:17:55.479 --> 01:18:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Happy to see me, That's what I still said. But

1396
01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:08.119
<v Speaker 1>but it was all natural. He was, I mean, his

1397
01:18:08.199 --> 01:18:10.880
<v Speaker 1>hips and everything was nerves. If you look at the

1398
01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:14.399
<v Speaker 1>bass luma, he wasn't trying it just he was so nervous.

1399
01:18:14.560 --> 01:18:17.359
<v Speaker 1>He was an introvert. That's the thing that's freaky. He

1400
01:18:17.640 --> 01:18:20.159
<v Speaker 1>liked even later in his career, just he could sit

1401
01:18:20.199 --> 01:18:23.600
<v Speaker 1>outside in his yard and stare at the sky for hours.

1402
01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:26.880
<v Speaker 1>He liked being alone and he got his he loved

1403
01:18:26.880 --> 01:18:29.960
<v Speaker 1>being alone. So the fact he could just turn into

1404
01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:34.159
<v Speaker 1>this idol, this dionysis kind of figure, just off the bat.

1405
01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:37.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, even Jim Morrison was like, you know, I

1406
01:18:37.319 --> 01:18:40.840
<v Speaker 1>just copied Elvis because he had that. I hate to

1407
01:18:40.840 --> 01:18:44.760
<v Speaker 1>say that it quality that cliche, but if you could say,

1408
01:18:44.760 --> 01:18:46.920
<v Speaker 1>if there's an in quality, he had it it was

1409
01:18:46.960 --> 01:18:49.479
<v Speaker 1>beyond this world.

1410
01:18:49.760 --> 01:18:54.560
<v Speaker 12>I don't know if I was going to say something,

1411
01:18:54.600 --> 01:19:01.640
<v Speaker 12>but I just wanted to ask you too, because there

1412
01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:04.840
<v Speaker 12>was something I read. I can't remember where it was

1413
01:19:04.960 --> 01:19:12.399
<v Speaker 12>now about him, but it was like he like the

1414
01:19:12.479 --> 01:19:16.079
<v Speaker 12>introverted thing, like he didn't want to be around people,

1415
01:19:16.560 --> 01:19:20.720
<v Speaker 12>and like he would like lock himself in his room

1416
01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:23.640
<v Speaker 12>and stuff. Like he almost like suffered from depression and

1417
01:19:23.680 --> 01:19:24.920
<v Speaker 12>stuff like that too.

1418
01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:29.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he struggled again. Those demons got him at the end.

1419
01:19:29.359 --> 01:19:32.479
<v Speaker 1>He just couldn't shake off the death of his mother,

1420
01:19:32.760 --> 01:19:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Jesse's divorce from Priscilla the addictions. I mean, it really

1421
01:19:37.560 --> 01:19:39.960
<v Speaker 1>got to him. But he loved being alone. One of

1422
01:19:39.960 --> 01:19:44.439
<v Speaker 1>his favord rituals. He could sit alone in his room

1423
01:19:44.720 --> 01:19:47.960
<v Speaker 1>with a candle and he could meditate himself back in

1424
01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the womb, and he can go even deeper into creation.

1425
01:19:50.920 --> 01:19:54.079
<v Speaker 1>So he had all these exercises, and I mean they

1426
01:19:54.159 --> 01:19:56.880
<v Speaker 1>say on his fortieth birthday, his girlfriend said he just

1427
01:19:57.079 --> 01:19:59.720
<v Speaker 1>sat alone in his room. He just didn't feel like cell.

1428
01:20:00.520 --> 01:20:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I think one of the big themes of the book

1429
01:20:04.039 --> 01:20:07.520
<v Speaker 1>is that of Paul. I get this from Paul Levy

1430
01:20:07.640 --> 01:20:11.800
<v Speaker 1>his books on Watiko is the wounded healer. You find

1431
01:20:12.399 --> 01:20:17.199
<v Speaker 1>in many cultures around the world, all over the globe.

1432
01:20:17.720 --> 01:20:21.079
<v Speaker 1>The shaman is somebody who's been broken, they've had a

1433
01:20:21.119 --> 01:20:25.279
<v Speaker 1>near death experience, they've had trauma, they're diseased, and this

1434
01:20:25.479 --> 01:20:29.439
<v Speaker 1>opens the channels of communication and this person becomes the

1435
01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:33.880
<v Speaker 1>shaman and they can heal you, not despite their wounds

1436
01:20:33.920 --> 01:20:37.039
<v Speaker 1>and their trauma, but because of it. And they feel

1437
01:20:37.039 --> 01:20:40.119
<v Speaker 1>in their heads that if I heal my trauma, I

1438
01:20:40.159 --> 01:20:43.520
<v Speaker 1>will lose my powers and I can't serve the tribe,

1439
01:20:44.039 --> 01:20:47.159
<v Speaker 1>I can't be the person who heals you. And it's

1440
01:20:47.279 --> 01:20:49.119
<v Speaker 1>very tragic, and you see that I mean we see

1441
01:20:49.119 --> 01:20:52.840
<v Speaker 1>that with rock stars all the time. They're tragedy, they're wounds.

1442
01:20:52.840 --> 01:20:55.319
<v Speaker 1>We know they're going to die and implode, but they

1443
01:20:55.479 --> 01:20:59.279
<v Speaker 1>keep healing us and giving us good music. And that's

1444
01:20:59.319 --> 01:21:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the wounded healer trope. And in fact, as I show

1445
01:21:03.039 --> 01:21:07.199
<v Speaker 1>in my book, in certain cultures, the shaman always ends

1446
01:21:07.279 --> 01:21:11.319
<v Speaker 1>up as a drug addict, broken down, fat old guy,

1447
01:21:11.520 --> 01:21:14.319
<v Speaker 1>because not only are you the wounded healer, but you're

1448
01:21:14.399 --> 01:21:17.520
<v Speaker 1>carrying these energies, these powers. You're going to the spirit

1449
01:21:17.640 --> 01:21:21.439
<v Speaker 1>world there you bingo exactly, and it just destroys you.

1450
01:21:21.920 --> 01:21:24.239
<v Speaker 1>And the tribe's like, well, that's your job, you know,

1451
01:21:24.640 --> 01:21:28.000
<v Speaker 1>you need a shaman. And the shaman's like, yeah, this

1452
01:21:28.119 --> 01:21:30.000
<v Speaker 1>is what I signed up for. I'm going to die young.

1453
01:21:30.119 --> 01:21:35.479
<v Speaker 1>But what you know, it's party. It just happened. And

1454
01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I say, Elvis was our shaman. He was the one

1455
01:21:38.680 --> 01:21:40.960
<v Speaker 1>that had to pay the price to heal us.

1456
01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:48.119
<v Speaker 7>Oh you know you had mentioned real real quick. I

1457
01:21:48.279 --> 01:21:49.840
<v Speaker 7>just kind of got lost on the thought when you

1458
01:21:49.880 --> 01:21:51.960
<v Speaker 7>mentioned it. Did you say something about him having an

1459
01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:56.439
<v Speaker 7>experience like with the womb and meditating with a candle. Yeah,

1460
01:21:56.560 --> 01:21:59.159
<v Speaker 7>I've actually mentioned that experience myself on the show a

1461
01:21:59.159 --> 01:21:59.720
<v Speaker 7>few times.

1462
01:22:01.119 --> 01:22:01.319
<v Speaker 20>Yeah.

1463
01:22:01.399 --> 01:22:04.279
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that one of my experiences was just meditating across

1464
01:22:04.279 --> 01:22:07.560
<v Speaker 7>from my candle and like, yeah to where I was like,

1465
01:22:07.560 --> 01:22:10.000
<v Speaker 7>I went somewhere else, and when I wherever, whenever I

1466
01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:11.680
<v Speaker 7>came out of my meditation, I was like, yo, that

1467
01:22:11.760 --> 01:22:15.520
<v Speaker 7>was like I honestly thought I had that experience.

1468
01:22:15.600 --> 01:22:16.840
<v Speaker 2>It was really fucking weird.

1469
01:22:16.880 --> 01:22:19.560
<v Speaker 7>Actually, yeah, so when you just said that now, I

1470
01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:21.239
<v Speaker 7>was like, oh, okay, I was like, I guess I'm

1471
01:22:21.279 --> 01:22:23.079
<v Speaker 7>not the only person saying that ship.

1472
01:22:23.680 --> 01:22:25.199
<v Speaker 1>How too scared to try.

1473
01:22:24.920 --> 01:22:30.520
<v Speaker 2>It's very weird. I'm I'm sure I've probably.

1474
01:22:30.159 --> 01:22:32.399
<v Speaker 7>Mentioned it on somebody's show here actually.

1475
01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:35.479
<v Speaker 8>Talk to them.

1476
01:22:35.560 --> 01:22:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think I've maybe mentioned it. Well, that's

1477
01:22:38.239 --> 01:22:38.640
<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

1478
01:22:38.680 --> 01:22:41.319
<v Speaker 7>I remember having a certain visual and just like the

1479
01:22:41.319 --> 01:22:43.000
<v Speaker 7>way I felt, and afterwards, I was like, the.

1480
01:22:42.960 --> 01:22:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Only thing that makes sense is that that was like

1481
01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:48.760
<v Speaker 2>me and the womb. It was just really or It's

1482
01:22:48.800 --> 01:22:50.560
<v Speaker 2>like I had this knowing that that's what it was

1483
01:22:50.600 --> 01:22:51.920
<v Speaker 2>when I came out of the meditation.

1484
01:22:52.359 --> 01:22:57.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Elvis was upseir. He was obsessed with birth and death.

1485
01:22:57.199 --> 01:22:59.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean he he used to go to Morgues for

1486
01:22:59.359 --> 01:23:04.359
<v Speaker 1>fun and yeah, he went with Priscilla all the time.

1487
01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:05.760
<v Speaker 13>They watch on a date.

1488
01:23:06.319 --> 01:23:10.600
<v Speaker 8>Let's yeah, he's doing somewhere there.

1489
01:23:12.119 --> 01:23:13.800
<v Speaker 13>He's a guy that one.

1490
01:23:14.359 --> 01:23:17.239
<v Speaker 1>He gets freak heer he one time they and that's.

1491
01:23:17.439 --> 01:23:18.880
<v Speaker 13>Tell me he's a necrophile.

1492
01:23:19.960 --> 01:23:22.600
<v Speaker 1>No, no, he'saw there was a dead baby and Priscilla

1493
01:23:22.640 --> 01:23:26.359
<v Speaker 1>starts crying. So they both sit there just praying forever

1494
01:23:26.520 --> 01:23:29.520
<v Speaker 1>for this child's soul to go there. And he used

1495
01:23:29.560 --> 01:23:32.680
<v Speaker 1>to have he would have. He loved watching dead people

1496
01:23:32.760 --> 01:23:35.439
<v Speaker 1>be embalmed, including friends, and he would just sit there

1497
01:23:35.479 --> 01:23:39.279
<v Speaker 1>and but but that's that's the job of the shaman.

1498
01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:42.039
<v Speaker 1>They have to know death and burial. He used to

1499
01:23:42.039 --> 01:23:45.560
<v Speaker 1>love hanging around at cemetery. He's a watching horror movies.

1500
01:23:45.640 --> 01:23:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Just that's what he did for fun. In fact, guess

1501
01:23:48.720 --> 01:23:53.680
<v Speaker 1>what after the the Tate la Bianca murder murders. Guess

1502
01:23:53.720 --> 01:23:58.239
<v Speaker 1>who showed up at the Colo house a few days later? Elvis.

1503
01:23:58.600 --> 01:24:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, he's he dude.

1504
01:24:01.720 --> 01:24:04.359
<v Speaker 13>I don't know about that. I don't know about that.

1505
01:24:04.840 --> 01:24:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what he I mean, a shaman has to

1506
01:24:07.159 --> 01:24:09.880
<v Speaker 1>be around the dead and around the Yeah.

1507
01:24:09.920 --> 01:24:14.439
<v Speaker 2>But I was gonna say.

1508
01:24:13.760 --> 01:24:17.079
<v Speaker 3>Make a comparison from that time period. I think even

1509
01:24:17.399 --> 01:24:22.319
<v Speaker 3>generations past his death has been copy have many people

1510
01:24:22.359 --> 01:24:25.800
<v Speaker 3>have been copying him, of course, but at that time period,

1511
01:24:25.840 --> 01:24:30.119
<v Speaker 3>imagine how many people were copying him more attempting to

1512
01:24:30.319 --> 01:24:35.399
<v Speaker 3>even But I was just looking at Jim Jones, and he,

1513
01:24:35.960 --> 01:24:39.920
<v Speaker 3>I think, try to use that whole persona to in

1514
01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:42.319
<v Speaker 3>of course a much darker way.

1515
01:24:42.560 --> 01:24:47.880
<v Speaker 13>Definitely the haircut. I can't help him see that, Yeah,

1516
01:24:47.920 --> 01:24:51.079
<v Speaker 13>for sure. I mean he's definitely got the Elvis look

1517
01:24:51.119 --> 01:24:51.560
<v Speaker 13>going on.

1518
01:24:51.840 --> 01:24:55.800
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, but yel I got to ask you something, and

1519
01:24:55.920 --> 01:24:59.600
<v Speaker 12>please don't get offended or kick me off the video chat,

1520
01:24:59.680 --> 01:25:01.800
<v Speaker 12>because I just gotta ask you.

1521
01:25:01.880 --> 01:25:10.079
<v Speaker 13>All right, there are rumors, all right, rumors. I don't know.

1522
01:25:10.159 --> 01:25:13.279
<v Speaker 12>I wasn't there that Elvis was kind of you know,

1523
01:25:14.439 --> 01:25:17.279
<v Speaker 12>he was in the Little Boys and stuff. Do you

1524
01:25:17.319 --> 01:25:19.520
<v Speaker 12>think that there's any credibility to that?

1525
01:25:20.279 --> 01:25:23.199
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think so, I don't. As far as

1526
01:25:23.239 --> 01:25:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I looked, I don't see it. Again, I try to

1527
01:25:26.000 --> 01:25:29.000
<v Speaker 1>go to a reliable sort. There's so much I hate

1528
01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:31.640
<v Speaker 1>to use the word misinformation because I sound like a politician,

1529
01:25:31.680 --> 01:25:35.560
<v Speaker 1>but there's so much gossipy, weird stuff, and so far

1530
01:25:35.640 --> 01:25:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't see anything that does that. I mean, it's

1531
01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:41.279
<v Speaker 1>a very it's very known that he used to get

1532
01:25:41.319 --> 01:25:44.319
<v Speaker 1>hit on by men, and he like, hey man, you know,

1533
01:25:44.479 --> 01:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>it's all cool. I'm not my bag, you know all

1534
01:25:46.960 --> 01:25:48.039
<v Speaker 1>that stuff.

1535
01:25:47.680 --> 01:25:50.880
<v Speaker 12>So well, I have to ask just because the people

1536
01:25:50.920 --> 01:25:54.119
<v Speaker 12>who listen to my show are gonna definitely wonder why

1537
01:25:54.119 --> 01:25:56.079
<v Speaker 12>I didn't, because that's a thing.

1538
01:25:56.319 --> 01:25:57.680
<v Speaker 13>That's the thing people want.

1539
01:25:57.800 --> 01:26:01.439
<v Speaker 12>People know about that rumor, and they're like, dude, Elvis

1540
01:26:01.560 --> 01:26:04.600
<v Speaker 12>was into like he wasn't having sex with his wife,

1541
01:26:04.680 --> 01:26:06.920
<v Speaker 12>and he was probably in the Little Boys and he

1542
01:26:06.960 --> 01:26:09.239
<v Speaker 12>had like this weird femininity thing going on.

1543
01:26:09.960 --> 01:26:14.760
<v Speaker 13>So people, you know, speculated, Yeah, the.

1544
01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Old No, I don't see that sage anywhere. And he

1545
01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:19.840
<v Speaker 1>was never I mean, you're talking about a person who

1546
01:26:19.920 --> 01:26:23.239
<v Speaker 1>wasn't alone. You're talking about a person whose own bodyguards

1547
01:26:23.319 --> 01:26:26.319
<v Speaker 1>to betrayed him and wrote a all tall tale all

1548
01:26:26.439 --> 01:26:29.920
<v Speaker 1>books because they wanted to bring him down. Nothing like

1549
01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:34.760
<v Speaker 1>that has ever come up. He was friends. He was

1550
01:26:34.840 --> 01:26:39.239
<v Speaker 1>friends with bisexual guy who was friends with James Dean,

1551
01:26:40.039 --> 01:26:42.880
<v Speaker 1>and they became very close. And when his mother died,

1552
01:26:42.920 --> 01:26:45.079
<v Speaker 1>this guy actually they moved a bed in his room

1553
01:26:45.199 --> 01:26:48.560
<v Speaker 1>to watch over Elvis and all that. That's the closest.

1554
01:26:48.560 --> 01:26:50.479
<v Speaker 1>There's also a time in the army where he was

1555
01:26:50.560 --> 01:26:54.199
<v Speaker 1>very upset and he heard about this thing called aroma therapy.

1556
01:26:54.560 --> 01:26:57.359
<v Speaker 1>And again back then it was like, oh, but he

1557
01:26:57.880 --> 01:27:01.520
<v Speaker 1>flew this guy in from US, Australia somewhere, and the

1558
01:27:01.560 --> 01:27:04.880
<v Speaker 1>guy's doing the aroma therapy and the guy grabs Elvis

1559
01:27:04.920 --> 01:27:09.119
<v Speaker 1>by the but Elvis freaked out kicked him out, and

1560
01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:12.239
<v Speaker 1>then the guy tried to blackmail them and the army

1561
01:27:12.279 --> 01:27:15.680
<v Speaker 1>got involved, you know, but he was cleared after a

1562
01:27:15.680 --> 01:27:20.039
<v Speaker 1>long investigation. So that's about as yeah, as far as

1563
01:27:20.119 --> 01:27:22.439
<v Speaker 1>I know, that's about as exciting as it gets.

1564
01:27:23.199 --> 01:27:23.439
<v Speaker 9>It was.

1565
01:27:25.920 --> 01:27:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Very friends with Liberaci, but it was very platonic. Liberaci

1566
01:27:29.920 --> 01:27:33.600
<v Speaker 1>also lost his twin, so Liberaci gave him ideas like

1567
01:27:33.680 --> 01:27:36.439
<v Speaker 1>this is how you cope with the pain, and Liberachi

1568
01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:38.840
<v Speaker 1>in the fifties like, dude, you gotta wear jumpsuits. It's

1569
01:27:38.840 --> 01:27:41.359
<v Speaker 1>the next big thing. And Elvis is like, nah it,

1570
01:27:41.399 --> 01:27:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll never be in fashion.

1571
01:27:42.720 --> 01:27:45.960
<v Speaker 9>And you know, well, and with the esoteric, when you're

1572
01:27:46.079 --> 01:27:51.199
<v Speaker 9>when they're studying and trying to they stop that because

1573
01:27:51.199 --> 01:27:53.560
<v Speaker 9>they're trying to keep their power. So it's like a

1574
01:27:53.600 --> 01:27:56.399
<v Speaker 9>whole thing with you know, the whole esoteric side of

1575
01:27:56.439 --> 01:27:56.960
<v Speaker 9>the studies.

1576
01:27:57.000 --> 01:27:58.079
<v Speaker 8>So that makes sense.

1577
01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:02.680
<v Speaker 13>Being like asexual, well, he was very sexual.

1578
01:28:02.800 --> 01:28:05.760
<v Speaker 1>He was very sexual. He was very hermes, very but

1579
01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:08.920
<v Speaker 1>he again I show him he's very much like the

1580
01:28:09.039 --> 01:28:12.800
<v Speaker 1>archetype of the Andragine because he had his feminine and

1581
01:28:12.880 --> 01:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>masculine powers. That's why he he was into the style.

1582
01:28:17.039 --> 01:28:21.119
<v Speaker 1>He understood women. Uh, he was what which we used

1583
01:28:21.159 --> 01:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>to call them metrosexuals and nygen x.

1584
01:28:24.560 --> 01:28:30.520
<v Speaker 8>He was like, I don't mean he was asexual in general.

1585
01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:33.399
<v Speaker 9>I mean if he went through bouts of asexualism, it

1586
01:28:33.520 --> 01:28:35.960
<v Speaker 9>was probably because he was studying and trying to be

1587
01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:37.439
<v Speaker 9>in the purification process.

1588
01:28:37.520 --> 01:28:37.840
<v Speaker 8>That's all.

1589
01:28:38.399 --> 01:28:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, you're a hundred percent right. When he was

1590
01:28:40.359 --> 01:28:44.359
<v Speaker 1>really into spirituality, he would disengage from relationships. In fact,

1591
01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:47.479
<v Speaker 1>it used to piss women off because women would be like,

1592
01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:50.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to have this notch on my bedpost called

1593
01:28:50.479 --> 01:28:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Elvis Presley to get to his room. He's like, can

1594
01:28:53.600 --> 01:28:59.600
<v Speaker 1>we read a book. Let's me, No, happened a lot.

1595
01:29:00.319 --> 01:29:03.319
<v Speaker 12>Hey, I'm I'm gonna get with Elvis. And he's like, yeah,

1596
01:29:03.560 --> 01:29:07.520
<v Speaker 12>let's meet at the Morgue and do some weird like yeah,

1597
01:29:07.680 --> 01:29:11.399
<v Speaker 12>you know how to turn a girl on or stuff.

1598
01:29:12.760 --> 01:29:14.399
<v Speaker 1>Char Graham, I.

1599
01:29:14.680 --> 01:29:16.119
<v Speaker 17>Ask you when we're talking.

1600
01:29:18.439 --> 01:29:21.960
<v Speaker 16>What we were talking the occult geographies of Memphis.

1601
01:29:22.039 --> 01:29:25.319
<v Speaker 17>I was gonna ask you did Elvis having the infinities.

1602
01:29:24.840 --> 01:29:29.239
<v Speaker 16>For for the ancient mound sites of America, Memphis deep

1603
01:29:29.239 --> 01:29:32.640
<v Speaker 16>in Mound territory. And so is his child is Mississippi.

1604
01:29:32.920 --> 01:29:33.920
<v Speaker 16>He grew up on the mound.

1605
01:29:34.520 --> 01:29:38.880
<v Speaker 9>He's my tenth cousin, and so I am Mormon heritage.

1606
01:29:39.079 --> 01:29:41.359
<v Speaker 8>I'm telling you there's the Mormon up in that boy.

1607
01:29:41.520 --> 01:29:50.239
<v Speaker 19>Like I don't know, Mountain love, they got that mountain load,

1608
01:29:51.159 --> 01:29:57.520
<v Speaker 19>not those I know, as far as I know.

1609
01:29:57.439 --> 01:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Not as far as I know. I mean again, you

1610
01:30:00.159 --> 01:30:03.800
<v Speaker 1>just saying you should where if he had to go anywhere,

1611
01:30:03.920 --> 01:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>it had to be in the middle of the night.

1612
01:30:06.560 --> 01:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>If he went anywhere, he'd have to have a big entourage.

1613
01:30:09.079 --> 01:30:11.279
<v Speaker 1>So there was a lot of things Elvis just could

1614
01:30:11.279 --> 01:30:15.239
<v Speaker 1>not see he shouldn't go to. Even in the fifties

1615
01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:16.640
<v Speaker 1>he had to stop going to church.

1616
01:30:17.119 --> 01:30:20.760
<v Speaker 8>He had because lay lines where he build his place.

1617
01:30:20.800 --> 01:30:24.000
<v Speaker 12>And dude, did you know Elvis was born on the

1618
01:30:24.039 --> 01:30:27.920
<v Speaker 12>thirty third parallel. You know all that weirdness about like

1619
01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:31.079
<v Speaker 12>people who are born on the thirty third parallel. So

1620
01:30:31.159 --> 01:30:33.000
<v Speaker 12>I don't know about that, Heidi, but like I know,

1621
01:30:33.119 --> 01:30:35.319
<v Speaker 12>he was born on like a weird child.

1622
01:30:36.680 --> 01:30:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Steven Snyder I did a show with him, and

1623
01:30:39.880 --> 01:30:42.880
<v Speaker 1>he you know, he talked, but that's kind of his thing,

1624
01:30:43.119 --> 01:30:47.199
<v Speaker 1>mountains and parallels, and it's not my forte.

1625
01:30:47.239 --> 01:30:50.239
<v Speaker 16>Oh yeah, I've had a number of mounded conversations with Reckless.

1626
01:30:50.279 --> 01:30:53.000
<v Speaker 16>He's very, very knowledgeable in the subjects, and he goes

1627
01:30:53.039 --> 01:30:55.479
<v Speaker 16>to these places. He doesn't just ride away, and he

1628
01:30:56.039 --> 01:30:59.880
<v Speaker 16>travels and he feels the energy and he digs around

1629
01:31:00.039 --> 01:31:02.680
<v Speaker 16>and so yeah, we've had a couple of show on

1630
01:31:02.800 --> 01:31:06.359
<v Speaker 16>Elvis to one on that, and one, of course, we

1631
01:31:06.479 --> 01:31:08.720
<v Speaker 16>had to have a long one to dispel the whole

1632
01:31:09.439 --> 01:31:12.199
<v Speaker 16>you know, was he was he a servant of the Jews, which,

1633
01:31:12.239 --> 01:31:15.279
<v Speaker 16>of course there's lots of literature like, so we have

1634
01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:18.079
<v Speaker 16>to spend an hour of dispelling that one.

1635
01:31:20.159 --> 01:31:22.520
<v Speaker 13>What does that even mean exactly?

1636
01:31:23.000 --> 01:31:24.960
<v Speaker 17>I'm not familiar with that one. So that's an interesting

1637
01:31:25.359 --> 01:31:26.000
<v Speaker 17>interesting A.

1638
01:31:26.119 --> 01:31:27.279
<v Speaker 13>Servant of the Jews?

1639
01:31:27.640 --> 01:31:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Like what?

1640
01:31:31.640 --> 01:31:31.840
<v Speaker 5>Right?

1641
01:31:32.600 --> 01:31:33.199
<v Speaker 17>Yeah?

1642
01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:35.600
<v Speaker 13>I was like, what is he a Hebrew slave or

1643
01:31:35.640 --> 01:31:36.319
<v Speaker 13>something like?

1644
01:31:36.399 --> 01:31:40.039
<v Speaker 1>What I supposed to know that he was, you know,

1645
01:31:40.479 --> 01:31:43.039
<v Speaker 1>created by Jewish bankers to correct?

1646
01:31:46.880 --> 01:31:50.399
<v Speaker 8>Okay, well it's the Jesuits. If not, don't worry.

1647
01:31:50.479 --> 01:31:53.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's somebody, ye, but there's books written about it,

1648
01:31:53.439 --> 01:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>on papers really, but they don't hold up to you know, no, no,

1649
01:31:59.359 --> 01:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>you know he had Jewish blood, He had very close

1650
01:32:02.640 --> 01:32:05.279
<v Speaker 1>Jewish friends. He became friends as a kid with an

1651
01:32:05.399 --> 01:32:09.159
<v Speaker 1>Orthodox rabbi. But Elvis was you know, he was his

1652
01:32:09.199 --> 01:32:11.279
<v Speaker 1>own person, owned destiny.

1653
01:32:11.039 --> 01:32:12.920
<v Speaker 8>You know, not Roy Kone.

1654
01:32:12.960 --> 01:32:14.079
<v Speaker 2>I hope.

1655
01:32:15.439 --> 01:32:18.640
<v Speaker 13>That wasn't a friend. That was his friend.

1656
01:32:18.720 --> 01:32:21.960
<v Speaker 8>Shut up, I'm being an ass.

1657
01:32:22.199 --> 01:32:23.880
<v Speaker 13>I thought, oh my god, I was going to say,

1658
01:32:24.000 --> 01:32:25.800
<v Speaker 13>those two are friends. I'm getting out of this.

1659
01:32:28.760 --> 01:32:31.439
<v Speaker 15>Elvis's manager. Elvis's manager.

1660
01:32:31.880 --> 01:32:34.399
<v Speaker 14>From what I understand, he had intelligence links, he had

1661
01:32:34.439 --> 01:32:38.880
<v Speaker 14>all these he didn't have any idea. That was one

1662
01:32:38.880 --> 01:32:41.720
<v Speaker 14>of the reasons they couldn't go overseas. It was kind

1663
01:32:41.720 --> 01:32:46.640
<v Speaker 14>of a mystery as to who this guy really was.

1664
01:32:45.199 --> 01:32:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Indeed, Colonel Parker, yes, yes, that was his manager. And yeah,

1665
01:32:50.640 --> 01:32:53.039
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't an illegal immigrant.

1666
01:32:54.199 --> 01:32:57.600
<v Speaker 13>And Tom Hanks, I was going to ask if that

1667
01:32:57.680 --> 01:32:58.520
<v Speaker 13>was that was him.

1668
01:32:59.000 --> 01:32:59.840
<v Speaker 2>I was going to ask you that.

1669
01:32:59.840 --> 01:33:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Was a terrible job by Anks, But yeah, that was him.

1670
01:33:03.520 --> 01:33:06.039
<v Speaker 13>So what did you think of that movie? Did you

1671
01:33:06.199 --> 01:33:11.199
<v Speaker 13>like it? Do you think it was like historically accurate?

1672
01:33:12.439 --> 01:33:16.159
<v Speaker 1>Some things aren't some things are, you know. Briefly talks

1673
01:33:16.199 --> 01:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>about Captain Marvel and Elvis and going to black churches,

1674
01:33:19.960 --> 01:33:22.720
<v Speaker 1>but doesn't touch on his occultism. You have to watch

1675
01:33:22.960 --> 01:33:27.479
<v Speaker 1>Sophia Coppola's movie Priscilla that spends about ten minutes Elvis

1676
01:33:27.600 --> 01:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>driving everybody crazy with his ideas and she being furious

1677
01:33:32.039 --> 01:33:34.479
<v Speaker 1>at him and all that. But yeah, Parker, he was

1678
01:33:34.560 --> 01:33:39.119
<v Speaker 1>a carnival guy. He was He wasn't even a real colonel,

1679
01:33:39.399 --> 01:33:43.199
<v Speaker 1>and somehow he latched onto Elvis. And I talked to

1680
01:33:43.239 --> 01:33:46.319
<v Speaker 1>the book that was almost faded, because you know, you've

1681
01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:51.439
<v Speaker 1>got an alchemy, you've got hermes, that power, that creative,

1682
01:33:51.600 --> 01:33:55.279
<v Speaker 1>naughty power. But then you've got Saturn numbers and boundaries

1683
01:33:55.319 --> 01:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>and all that, and they were perfect or even in

1684
01:33:58.039 --> 01:34:02.439
<v Speaker 1>Steiner with Aramann and Lucifer got Lucifer the creative power,

1685
01:34:02.479 --> 01:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>and then you've got irom on the numbers of boundaries.

1686
01:34:05.239 --> 01:34:09.800
<v Speaker 1>When you can get those together in the balance, anything's possible,

1687
01:34:09.880 --> 01:34:12.680
<v Speaker 1>just like the androgine. If we can get your male

1688
01:34:12.760 --> 01:34:17.079
<v Speaker 1>and female energies right as the ancient said, you are godlike.

1689
01:34:17.159 --> 01:34:20.520
<v Speaker 1>So those two work together. And that's the story. That's

1690
01:34:20.560 --> 01:34:24.800
<v Speaker 1>one of the theories that Elvis never toured because Parker would

1691
01:34:24.800 --> 01:34:28.319
<v Speaker 1>have have he would have gotten uh, yeah, he would

1692
01:34:28.319 --> 01:34:30.960
<v Speaker 1>have gotten thrown in an El Salvador in prison. Oh well,

1693
01:34:31.119 --> 01:34:32.920
<v Speaker 1>back then, who knows what it would have been. He

1694
01:34:32.960 --> 01:34:35.479
<v Speaker 1>would have been kicked out. But the problem too is

1695
01:34:35.560 --> 01:34:38.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that because he did go to

1696
01:34:38.199 --> 01:34:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Canada in the fifties to tour. And remember Elvis was

1697
01:34:41.880 --> 01:34:45.119
<v Speaker 1>in the army for two years, and Parker had no

1698
01:34:45.239 --> 01:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>problems staying in the United States, you know, crunching numbers,

1699
01:34:49.079 --> 01:34:51.760
<v Speaker 1>making deals, So I don't think. I don't know if

1700
01:34:51.760 --> 01:34:53.840
<v Speaker 1>you would have had a problem with Elvis touring, but

1701
01:34:53.880 --> 01:34:56.039
<v Speaker 1>I guess you would have had to explain to Elvis,

1702
01:34:56.119 --> 01:34:59.199
<v Speaker 1>because that's a secret even Elvis never found out about.

1703
01:35:00.199 --> 01:35:02.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's something happened in the late seventies when

1704
01:35:02.760 --> 01:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>people finally discovered who Parker was. And it's still a

1705
01:35:06.600 --> 01:35:08.279
<v Speaker 1>mystery what his background was.

1706
01:35:10.640 --> 01:35:15.760
<v Speaker 16>Possibly Austrian, No, he was Dutch, yeah, okay, and it

1707
01:35:15.800 --> 01:35:18.439
<v Speaker 16>was somewhere over there. Yeah yeah, So I guess Austin

1708
01:35:18.520 --> 01:35:21.199
<v Speaker 16>Powers would have been furious, right, evil Dutch.

1709
01:35:23.479 --> 01:35:23.800
<v Speaker 2>We see.

1710
01:35:23.840 --> 01:35:27.800
<v Speaker 13>Maybe it was his handler, was the handler Power?

1711
01:35:28.439 --> 01:35:31.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but he was something else. I mean, it

1712
01:35:31.880 --> 01:35:35.800
<v Speaker 1>is true, this guy, I mean, Elvis made four billion

1713
01:35:35.840 --> 01:35:39.479
<v Speaker 1>dollars from nineteen fifty five to nineteen think about that inflation.

1714
01:35:40.119 --> 01:35:44.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean Taylor Swift and he did. He that's money

1715
01:35:44.199 --> 01:35:47.319
<v Speaker 1>they couldn't make. He probably made that's like twenty billion

1716
01:35:47.399 --> 01:35:51.039
<v Speaker 1>dollars today. And Elvis, of course just blew it, blew it,

1717
01:35:51.079 --> 01:35:54.520
<v Speaker 1>blew it. He never invested, never, he just Parker made

1718
01:35:54.560 --> 01:35:57.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty percent of that. And Parker died penniless because he

1719
01:35:57.840 --> 01:36:01.279
<v Speaker 1>was such a gambling freak. I mean both, It's like

1720
01:36:01.600 --> 01:36:04.319
<v Speaker 1>they both had they both just fell apart at the end.

1721
01:36:07.000 --> 01:36:10.479
<v Speaker 10>Perhaps a good magical lesson for why you should not

1722
01:36:10.600 --> 01:36:18.760
<v Speaker 10>pursue that path of hod after forty A little magic joke.

1723
01:36:21.960 --> 01:36:24.880
<v Speaker 13>Are you saying that Elvis was a washed up loser?

1724
01:36:26.680 --> 01:36:26.840
<v Speaker 1>No?

1725
01:36:26.880 --> 01:36:29.399
<v Speaker 10>But it really this is something I've been thinking about

1726
01:36:29.399 --> 01:36:32.560
<v Speaker 10>a lot, Juliet. Is like magic's really about archetypes, like

1727
01:36:32.600 --> 01:36:35.439
<v Speaker 10>a large part, like even look at above you right now,

1728
01:36:35.840 --> 01:36:38.000
<v Speaker 10>the way Nick Cat even has it set up.

1729
01:36:38.039 --> 01:36:43.079
<v Speaker 11>It's like I'm between two polarities. So it's a lot about.

1730
01:36:42.479 --> 01:36:45.600
<v Speaker 10>Like how we arranged you mean, you know this, how

1731
01:36:45.600 --> 01:36:49.680
<v Speaker 10>we arrange universe around us. So, but your most powerful tools,

1732
01:36:49.720 --> 01:36:52.319
<v Speaker 10>the way you live your life, like the ritual that

1733
01:36:52.399 --> 01:36:53.039
<v Speaker 10>you embody.

1734
01:36:54.000 --> 01:36:55.840
<v Speaker 11>So right, So if.

1735
01:36:55.760 --> 01:36:59.680
<v Speaker 10>Elvis is passing the point of being a prince archetype,

1736
01:37:00.279 --> 01:37:04.720
<v Speaker 10>then he should the ideas that you would gracefully transition

1737
01:37:05.199 --> 01:37:08.159
<v Speaker 10>into one of the other male archetypes on the tree.

1738
01:37:08.439 --> 01:37:11.680
<v Speaker 10>But if you're very comfortable in the suffer, and this

1739
01:37:11.800 --> 01:37:15.399
<v Speaker 10>often happens to male magicians. They get very comfortable in

1740
01:37:15.399 --> 01:37:17.399
<v Speaker 10>thee because we're denser than women.

1741
01:37:17.479 --> 01:37:19.399
<v Speaker 11>It's a it's not a slight against men.

1742
01:37:19.439 --> 01:37:23.119
<v Speaker 10>It's just like a a kind of it's a Buddhist joke,

1743
01:37:23.199 --> 01:37:26.720
<v Speaker 10>but it's it's also true in a way because women

1744
01:37:26.760 --> 01:37:29.640
<v Speaker 10>can get pregnant, so they have negative space, right, so

1745
01:37:29.800 --> 01:37:31.039
<v Speaker 10>they're considered less sense.

1746
01:37:31.159 --> 01:37:34.359
<v Speaker 11>That's really the idea. So a man should transition, but

1747
01:37:34.399 --> 01:37:35.279
<v Speaker 11>it's harder for us.

1748
01:37:35.479 --> 01:37:37.479
<v Speaker 10>So if we've played the prince our whole life, we're

1749
01:37:37.520 --> 01:37:39.439
<v Speaker 10>always going to draw from that saffra.

1750
01:37:40.079 --> 01:37:42.399
<v Speaker 11>That's kind of my thinking. I don't know, maybe that's

1751
01:37:42.479 --> 01:37:44.600
<v Speaker 11>maybe Nick or Miguel will crackt me, but that's.

1752
01:37:44.399 --> 01:37:49.880
<v Speaker 23>Sort of how I think of it as Sorry, Nick, No,

1753
01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:52.159
<v Speaker 23>I just want to say that that also explains like

1754
01:37:52.279 --> 01:37:57.640
<v Speaker 23>what Heidi said about him, like always needing, always searching out,

1755
01:37:57.680 --> 01:37:59.760
<v Speaker 23>and even the rumor that you brought up, it would

1756
01:37:59.800 --> 01:38:03.079
<v Speaker 23>make sense that because the polarity that he would need

1757
01:38:03.439 --> 01:38:04.399
<v Speaker 23>to balance him.

1758
01:38:04.239 --> 01:38:06.159
<v Speaker 11>Out, would be like a daughter archetype.

1759
01:38:06.199 --> 01:38:10.399
<v Speaker 10>That doesn't mean someone too young, but maybe by our

1760
01:38:10.479 --> 01:38:13.399
<v Speaker 10>conventions in twenty twenty five, it would be like a

1761
01:38:13.479 --> 01:38:16.119
<v Speaker 10>Southern like what he was thinking in like the sixties

1762
01:38:16.159 --> 01:38:19.479
<v Speaker 10>in the South is obviously very different than where we're thinking,

1763
01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:23.560
<v Speaker 10>So maybe sixteen. He would like a younger girl, like

1764
01:38:23.640 --> 01:38:28.239
<v Speaker 10>some slightly androgynist perhaps, or like a Lisa Marie who's,

1765
01:38:28.359 --> 01:38:30.359
<v Speaker 10>as we discussed, very bad.

1766
01:38:30.479 --> 01:38:32.039
<v Speaker 11>She has a Babylon energy.

1767
01:38:33.239 --> 01:38:39.159
<v Speaker 10>His daughter does well, the wife did when they thought together.

1768
01:38:39.239 --> 01:38:39.800
<v Speaker 11>She has that.

1769
01:38:40.159 --> 01:38:40.760
<v Speaker 1>You brought it up.

1770
01:38:40.800 --> 01:38:42.800
<v Speaker 11>There was such a great point. We all agreed.

1771
01:38:43.119 --> 01:38:46.600
<v Speaker 10>The Tuesday Weld's like, that's the she's the kind of

1772
01:38:46.640 --> 01:38:50.079
<v Speaker 10>the dark princess to Tuesday Weld.

1773
01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:53.560
<v Speaker 11>Like a queen of the stars. You could say.

1774
01:38:55.039 --> 01:38:58.560
<v Speaker 1>The one you want to watch is his granddaughter Riley Keo.

1775
01:38:59.199 --> 01:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you guys have watched the movie

1776
01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Under the Silver Lake, probably one of the most esoteric

1777
01:39:04.960 --> 01:39:10.359
<v Speaker 1>movies I've seen. But she's she's as she's a very

1778
01:39:10.439 --> 01:39:12.880
<v Speaker 1>accomplished actress and very powerful.

1779
01:39:13.319 --> 01:39:14.600
<v Speaker 13>Does she sing or anything?

1780
01:39:15.720 --> 01:39:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. No, she's mostly an actress. I

1781
01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:20.800
<v Speaker 1>mean she's been I think she was was she in

1782
01:39:20.880 --> 01:39:23.159
<v Speaker 1>Once upon a Time in Hollywood? I think she was

1783
01:39:23.199 --> 01:39:23.560
<v Speaker 1>in it.

1784
01:39:23.479 --> 01:39:29.279
<v Speaker 12>Brief Well really, Oh that's interesting because that's about like

1785
01:39:29.359 --> 01:39:33.960
<v Speaker 12>the Manson stuff and apparently Elvis uh made himself known

1786
01:39:34.720 --> 01:39:35.760
<v Speaker 12>around those parts.

1787
01:39:36.439 --> 01:39:38.159
<v Speaker 13>Yeah yeah, I mean.

1788
01:39:39.640 --> 01:39:43.359
<v Speaker 12>I've always wondered about her just because of the Michael

1789
01:39:43.439 --> 01:39:47.159
<v Speaker 12>Jackson stuff and uh yeah.

1790
01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:49.960
<v Speaker 13>I mean was it her son that killed himself or

1791
01:39:50.960 --> 01:39:53.199
<v Speaker 13>it was her son that killed brother?

1792
01:39:53.399 --> 01:39:53.479
<v Speaker 20>Ye?

1793
01:39:54.159 --> 01:39:55.319
<v Speaker 1>Again, the curse.

1794
01:39:57.119 --> 01:40:00.159
<v Speaker 9>Was saying, and then again we've got one without the

1795
01:40:00.079 --> 01:40:03.600
<v Speaker 9>the right back to the beginning, right exactly.

1796
01:40:04.359 --> 01:40:07.720
<v Speaker 12>Maybe they're breaking generational curses. Maybe he was the last

1797
01:40:07.760 --> 01:40:08.199
<v Speaker 12>one and.

1798
01:40:10.279 --> 01:40:11.760
<v Speaker 8>She seems like they're living.

1799
01:40:11.520 --> 01:40:12.239
<v Speaker 2>It through it.

1800
01:40:12.359 --> 01:40:15.079
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, because then he was the one that carried it on.

1801
01:40:15.319 --> 01:40:17.239
<v Speaker 8>So I don't know.

1802
01:40:17.319 --> 01:40:19.600
<v Speaker 9>It seems like if she's in esoteric films and all

1803
01:40:19.640 --> 01:40:22.119
<v Speaker 9>these different things, it just depends on what past she's on.

1804
01:40:22.359 --> 01:40:24.520
<v Speaker 8>But I don't know.

1805
01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:27.920
<v Speaker 2>You do you know if Friley is into scientology?

1806
01:40:29.560 --> 01:40:31.319
<v Speaker 1>I am not sure. I don't think so. I mean,

1807
01:40:31.359 --> 01:40:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I know Priscilla and Lisa Marie I think left before

1808
01:40:35.800 --> 01:40:38.880
<v Speaker 1>it was they did get out. I'm not sure. I

1809
01:40:38.920 --> 01:40:42.319
<v Speaker 1>hope once the book starts selling and then makes the rounds,

1810
01:40:42.319 --> 01:40:44.039
<v Speaker 1>I want I do want to reach out to her

1811
01:40:44.079 --> 01:40:45.479
<v Speaker 1>and say, hey, what do you think.

1812
01:40:45.840 --> 01:40:48.560
<v Speaker 7>The reason I asked is something I actually learned from JJ,

1813
01:40:48.840 --> 01:40:52.399
<v Speaker 7>and I have noticed it myself now that she did

1814
01:40:52.399 --> 01:40:54.359
<v Speaker 7>a movie with Tofa Grace, and I know he was

1815
01:40:54.399 --> 01:40:56.399
<v Speaker 7>in that seventies show, and that was like pretty much

1816
01:40:56.399 --> 01:40:59.399
<v Speaker 7>like all scientology people. And I've noticed that a lot

1817
01:40:59.439 --> 01:41:02.319
<v Speaker 7>of silence scientology people tend to do movies with other

1818
01:41:02.359 --> 01:41:06.960
<v Speaker 7>scientology people. Under Under the Silver Under the Silver Lake,

1819
01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:10.199
<v Speaker 7>she was to for Grace was in that with her.

1820
01:41:10.560 --> 01:41:12.479
<v Speaker 7>So when I saw to for Grace, I thought of

1821
01:41:12.479 --> 01:41:14.800
<v Speaker 7>Scientology and I knew we were talking about scientology. So

1822
01:41:14.800 --> 01:41:16.920
<v Speaker 7>that's why I just asked, because I just looked up

1823
01:41:16.920 --> 01:41:18.359
<v Speaker 7>the movie now because I was like, I never heard of.

1824
01:41:18.359 --> 01:41:19.720
<v Speaker 8>That, says.

1825
01:41:19.800 --> 01:41:22.520
<v Speaker 9>She quit Scientology as of twenty twenty three and is

1826
01:41:22.560 --> 01:41:25.680
<v Speaker 9>now just spiritually not affiliated with anyone.

1827
01:41:25.960 --> 01:41:29.159
<v Speaker 8>But she has some interesting tattoos about her brother.

1828
01:41:29.279 --> 01:41:35.880
<v Speaker 16>You're saying, it's independent scientology, make sure of all of them.

1829
01:41:36.439 --> 01:41:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, look at the movies she was in Mad Max.

1830
01:41:39.239 --> 01:41:42.119
<v Speaker 1>She was you guys got to watch Under the Sea.

1831
01:41:42.199 --> 01:41:43.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm check that out.

1832
01:41:43.399 --> 01:41:49.199
<v Speaker 1>Sasquatch Sunset. I don't know she played Sasquatch or he

1833
01:41:49.359 --> 01:41:52.000
<v Speaker 1>was in that movie. It was an Amazon where it's

1834
01:41:52.039 --> 01:41:55.000
<v Speaker 1>like a ripoff of Fleetwood mag I forget what's the

1835
01:41:55.079 --> 01:41:57.800
<v Speaker 1>name of it, but yeah, she's been in a lot

1836
01:41:57.800 --> 01:41:59.479
<v Speaker 1>of movies. I'm just looking over here.

1837
01:42:03.119 --> 01:42:05.279
<v Speaker 7>Uh, was there anything else that anybody wanted to ask

1838
01:42:05.600 --> 01:42:06.479
<v Speaker 7>before we wrap it up?

1839
01:42:08.880 --> 01:42:09.439
<v Speaker 8>Interesting?

1840
01:42:10.199 --> 01:42:11.880
<v Speaker 11>Oh? Sorry, hydie me instrumpt here.

1841
01:42:13.239 --> 01:42:15.600
<v Speaker 10>I'll just say I do think that the badge thing

1842
01:42:15.720 --> 01:42:19.600
<v Speaker 10>was interesting from a magical perspective. You could consider like

1843
01:42:19.720 --> 01:42:23.000
<v Speaker 10>badges to have a kind of coubalistic or Masonic, which

1844
01:42:23.079 --> 01:42:26.680
<v Speaker 10>is obviously also kabbala, just in a different, slightly different

1845
01:42:27.079 --> 01:42:29.880
<v Speaker 10>maybe context. But yeah, so if you had the collection

1846
01:42:29.960 --> 01:42:33.039
<v Speaker 10>of badges, you could also like that the collection of degrees,

1847
01:42:33.640 --> 01:42:35.039
<v Speaker 10>like magical order degrees.

1848
01:42:35.079 --> 01:42:38.359
<v Speaker 11>And yeah, exactly exactly.

1849
01:42:38.359 --> 01:42:44.720
<v Speaker 1>The police sons too, Yeah, I would agree.

1850
01:42:44.840 --> 01:42:47.800
<v Speaker 8>There's no help for the widows JJ.

1851
01:42:50.319 --> 01:42:54.479
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, is that is that another moment thing too?

1852
01:42:55.279 --> 01:42:58.960
<v Speaker 8>Yes, it's Mason Mormons the same.

1853
01:43:02.399 --> 01:43:06.399
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, she said, that's the last words of Joseph's Yeah,

1854
01:43:06.760 --> 01:43:09.279
<v Speaker 12>it really was allegedly Really.

1855
01:43:09.239 --> 01:43:11.920
<v Speaker 13>Wait what was it? What was his last words?

1856
01:43:12.000 --> 01:43:14.479
<v Speaker 9>It's a Masonic cry for help? It's is there no

1857
01:43:14.600 --> 01:43:16.920
<v Speaker 9>help for the widow's son? And he was a Mason,

1858
01:43:16.960 --> 01:43:19.359
<v Speaker 9>but also he was screwing everybody's wives, so they were

1859
01:43:19.439 --> 01:43:20.000
<v Speaker 9>kind of uh.

1860
01:43:22.000 --> 01:43:24.920
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, but apparently so was Elvis. Right, he was screwing

1861
01:43:24.920 --> 01:43:26.039
<v Speaker 12>everybody's wife and.

1862
01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:31.680
<v Speaker 13>More of your times.

1863
01:43:32.800 --> 01:43:33.479
<v Speaker 2>That's interesting.

1864
01:43:33.600 --> 01:43:39.600
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I wonder I have I have a question. I wonder,

1865
01:43:39.760 --> 01:43:44.039
<v Speaker 3>uh you mentioned the non touch healing that again? Now,

1866
01:43:44.520 --> 01:43:47.119
<v Speaker 3>Actually I want I bet all of us have experienced

1867
01:43:47.159 --> 01:43:50.960
<v Speaker 3>reiki at least here, right, that's a common non touch

1868
01:43:51.399 --> 01:43:55.880
<v Speaker 3>healing practice. I wonder what what is the one of

1869
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<v Speaker 3>the more striking experiences of maybe the non touch healing

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<v Speaker 3>or just in general of his telepathic powers were one

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01:44:06.399 --> 01:44:08.079
<v Speaker 3>of those stories that were really striking.

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<v Speaker 1>God, there's so many, yeah, I mean, he was able

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01:44:11.000 --> 01:44:15.159
<v Speaker 1>to manipulate weather, he could make objects move against astral travel,

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01:44:16.239 --> 01:44:20.439
<v Speaker 1>stories of him creating force fields, God, there's so many.

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<v Speaker 1>But the healing was very important to him because of

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01:44:22.880 --> 01:44:26.600
<v Speaker 1>where he came from, So he was just a healing freak,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was mostly The blue light is very important

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01:44:30.000 --> 01:44:33.600
<v Speaker 1>throughout the book. When Elvis was born, his father went

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01:44:33.640 --> 01:44:36.239
<v Speaker 1>outside to have a cigarette and this blue alien light

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01:44:36.319 --> 01:44:40.199
<v Speaker 1>appeared over the house and froze all sound and the

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01:44:40.239 --> 01:44:43.239
<v Speaker 1>wind stopped and Vernon his father freaked out. He was

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01:44:43.279 --> 01:44:47.640
<v Speaker 1>having a cigarette ran in while Gladys was it was

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01:44:47.680 --> 01:44:50.560
<v Speaker 1>in labor. So the blue light followed. And you see

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<v Speaker 1>that all through Elvis' life, you know, you see blue

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01:44:53.720 --> 01:44:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and so many of his songs. His biggest hits were

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<v Speaker 1>like Blue Hawaii and Gi Blues. The day he died,

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01:45:00.640 --> 01:45:03.760
<v Speaker 1>he was wearing blue pajamas. Oh this blue light. I

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01:45:03.840 --> 01:45:07.640
<v Speaker 1>show him the book as blue is everywhere. When he healed,

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01:45:07.640 --> 01:45:12.800
<v Speaker 1>he would always imagine a blue light. And I've done

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01:45:12.880 --> 01:45:16.039
<v Speaker 1>shows with like James True on the blue Light. You know,

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01:45:16.359 --> 01:45:20.399
<v Speaker 1>humans only discovered the blue light a few thousand years ago,

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01:45:20.479 --> 01:45:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and people with blue eyes are freaks. We only appeared

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01:45:24.479 --> 01:45:29.760
<v Speaker 1>later in history because of some Yeah yeah, green too, Yeah,

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01:45:29.800 --> 01:45:32.560
<v Speaker 1>you'd have to put green too, but blue was important.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was a healing beast. I mean, Priscilla says

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01:45:35.880 --> 01:45:39.560
<v Speaker 1>he could heal her headaches at a touch. He could

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01:45:39.600 --> 01:45:45.279
<v Speaker 1>heal people's hurt backs, and then sometimes they were just incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Like one time they were in Colorado snowboarding and they're

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01:45:49.720 --> 01:45:53.680
<v Speaker 1>having fun and one a person is entourage, hits a pole,

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01:45:53.800 --> 01:45:56.520
<v Speaker 1>breaks his leg and they're all freaking out. Weve got

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01:45:56.520 --> 01:45:58.079
<v Speaker 1>to take him to the hospital. And I was like

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01:45:58.119 --> 01:46:00.199
<v Speaker 1>pushes him back so like, I don't have time for this,

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01:46:00.600 --> 01:46:03.760
<v Speaker 1>puts his hands on his legs and heals his broken leg.

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01:46:05.399 --> 01:46:07.920
<v Speaker 1>There was another time where he's driving around in his

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01:46:08.039 --> 01:46:11.239
<v Speaker 1>limo and Memphis and he sees a bus over the

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01:46:11.359 --> 01:46:15.079
<v Speaker 1>sidewalk and the drivers outside like grabbing his chest having

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01:46:15.119 --> 01:46:17.920
<v Speaker 1>a heart attack, and Elvis goes up to him, puts

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01:46:17.960 --> 01:46:20.520
<v Speaker 1>his hand, You're gonna be all right, and he does,

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01:46:20.680 --> 01:46:23.239
<v Speaker 1>you know again the blue light healing and heals him

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01:46:23.279 --> 01:46:26.159
<v Speaker 1>from his heart attack. He could heal a friend of

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01:46:26.199 --> 01:46:29.920
<v Speaker 1>his his child had a really bad fever. Elvis, like Russia's,

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01:46:30.159 --> 01:46:33.600
<v Speaker 1>leaves his house, goes to his friend's house and puts

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01:46:33.600 --> 01:46:36.479
<v Speaker 1>his hand on the kid and the fever breaks. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just the instances are baffling, and they're a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're incredible. And again there were always eye witnesses there.

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<v Speaker 1>There was you know, two or three people present when

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01:46:48.640 --> 01:46:53.119
<v Speaker 1>Elvis was doing his power. But he couldn't heal himself again,

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01:46:53.279 --> 01:46:56.920
<v Speaker 1>he just couldn't. He did use certain technique, like once

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01:46:56.960 --> 01:47:00.800
<v Speaker 1>he had a sore throat and he used some esophagal

1920
01:47:00.960 --> 01:47:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Alice Bailey's spell and he was able to heal his

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01:47:03.520 --> 01:47:06.600
<v Speaker 1>throat and this and that, But for the most part, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he did it for other people.

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<v Speaker 13>That's the kind of guy you want to have around. Geez,

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01:47:14.279 --> 01:47:14.720
<v Speaker 13>that's sure.

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<v Speaker 8>They're usually a hot mess though. I'm just saying.

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<v Speaker 1>He cured a hangover. So after Saturday night wonders.

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<v Speaker 13>Terrific guy. I'm on board.

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<v Speaker 2>That's too. I get into it too much because we

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01:47:30.760 --> 01:47:32.520
<v Speaker 2>all wrapping it up. But I would even think we go.

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<v Speaker 7>Haven't you even noticed sometimes some sort of blue light experience,

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01:47:37.600 --> 01:47:39.960
<v Speaker 7>even amongst occultist stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Very predominant.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you will hear about that every once in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and UFO encounters. Yeah, yeah, mine is always on

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01:47:50.000 --> 01:47:53.600
<v Speaker 1>this ship. Whitley streamer talks about when the visitors come,

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01:47:54.079 --> 01:47:57.640
<v Speaker 1>a blue light would appear. So I'm doing the research,

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01:47:57.720 --> 01:47:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh my god, this blue thing is all

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01:47:59.800 --> 01:48:05.399
<v Speaker 1>over the place. And occultism, yourthology, mysticism, Krishna was blue.

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01:48:05.479 --> 01:48:06.680
<v Speaker 1>You just see it everywhere.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, something interesting with that. But uh, thank you well

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01:48:10.279 --> 01:48:12.840
<v Speaker 7>again for coming on. That was really interesting talk. That

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<v Speaker 7>was amazing, Miguel.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Miguel.

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<v Speaker 7>Let everybody know where they can find your stuff and

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<v Speaker 7>whatever you want to blug please.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure, yeah, and thanks for great questions. Guys, you

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<v Speaker 1>did a great job. I really appreciate it. Good convo

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I would send people to just Miguel Connor

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<v Speaker 1>dot com my name, because you go to the website

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like two roads. One is the am Bite,

1952
01:48:38.359 --> 01:48:42.680
<v Speaker 1>my gnostics stuff, the other one is my you know, substack,

1953
01:48:42.800 --> 01:48:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Elvis books all that. So send people to Miguel Connor

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01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:49.199
<v Speaker 1>dot com and decide where do you want to go.

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01:48:49.680 --> 01:48:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Can subscribe to my substack, order the book online, or

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<v Speaker 1>look at all my social media. So that's the place

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<v Speaker 1>to go.

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<v Speaker 7>Awesome, Thank you so much, my man. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 7>Everybody else, I'll you know, you can check their stuff out.

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<v Speaker 7>Their links are in the bottom.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>That is the end of another Occult Rejects and until

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<v Speaker 7>the next one, everybody be well.

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<v Speaker 2>We're calling it a proud.

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<v Speaker 20>I can't walk out.

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<v Speaker 8>We caught down it too much paving.

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<v Speaker 20>Why can't you see what you do with me?

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<v Speaker 2>When you don't believe the world.

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<v Speaker 20>I say, we can't go on together. We're suspicious, we

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<v Speaker 20>can't build God brea art Spicuous by