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<v Speaker 1>You see somethings going to happen. What what's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 2>He'll take.

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<v Speaker 1>What help.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Occult Rejects. This episode. We got a

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<v Speaker 2>very very.

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<v Speaker 1>Very special episode.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a bunch of the rejects together and we

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<v Speaker 2>got a reject who had a book that we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get to Ethan.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the who wrote the book, the author, we will

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<v Speaker 2>introduce the other rejects. So Headless Giant, please let everybody

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<v Speaker 2>know who who you are and what's up in case

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<v Speaker 2>they don't know how you doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody Happy Friday. So you can find me on Twitter

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<v Speaker 3>at the Headless Giant and on YouTube at the Headless

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<v Speaker 3>Giant as well. So check me out there on Instagram

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<v Speaker 3>and you can touch my show on Thursday nights where

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<v Speaker 3>I read your occult and or Strange paranormal emails and

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<v Speaker 3>you can email those two the Headless Giant podcast at

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<v Speaker 3>gmail dot com. Also, I got a show with Ethan

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<v Speaker 3>coming up on Sunday called The Trialogue, so check that

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<v Speaker 3>out as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Get those emails in and check out that Trialogue show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. Ellis and my man jewels we

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<v Speaker 2>got them this week. Finally got them on again as

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<v Speaker 2>you got me.

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<v Speaker 4>What's going on? Guys, I'm Jules you see me here before,

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<v Speaker 4>host of the Great Pill Podcast. Yeah stoke tonight to

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<v Speaker 4>hear a little bit about what Ethan has to say,

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<v Speaker 4>to hear about his book, and uh yeah, man, just

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<v Speaker 4>to hear about the fourth Initiate. I'm you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>have a lot of shows I do. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 4>to get into that whole spiel right now. I can

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<v Speaker 4>do that at the end when we do our plugs.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, guys, y'all can find me on Twitter at

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<v Speaker 4>Great Pill Pod, over on Rumble and Patreon, especially Patreon.

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<v Speaker 4>We do some twin Peaks watch parties. Yes, Terry book reviews.

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<v Speaker 4>Nick comes and hangs out for those now.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely check it out. Definitely, so yeah, I would say

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<v Speaker 2>it's worth the money.

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<v Speaker 4>So thanks for thanks for inviting me on again.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, always love having you man.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, and that's good seeing all all of you guys. Man,

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<v Speaker 4>Happy friggsday, guys. It's gonna be a banger of a show.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, yes, hey we got Tyrone. What is up my man?

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<v Speaker 2>Always a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 5>What's up everybody? Thanks Nick? I appreciate it. You already know.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm ready, man, I got your book right here on

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<v Speaker 6>my candle bro and I have plenty.

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<v Speaker 5>Of times on here, so you already know.

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<v Speaker 6>Everything you can find about me is on my website,

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<v Speaker 6>Rebirth oftheword dot Com. I love reading, I love how

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<v Speaker 6>and discussions with authors, especially since I've read their book.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a more uh personal with me because now I

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<v Speaker 6>get to ask them for things for clarifications sake. So

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<v Speaker 6>of course you know this is the time for me

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<v Speaker 6>to ask some of those questions. So hey, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 6>Rebirth of the word dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, thank you for joining us then, and we

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<v Speaker 2>got the man himself, see Ethan Indigo.

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<v Speaker 1>What is going on, sir? How are you well?

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<v Speaker 7>I bow to all of you. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 7>for the inclusion and support. I really appreciate it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm on all the usual social media writing articles frequently

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<v Speaker 7>and easily cut I'll have to fix that tabulation, I guess,

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<v Speaker 7>and easy to find on all the social media. And

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<v Speaker 7>the fourth initiation really came about from my obsession with

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<v Speaker 7>what I call the duality of polarity, or you could

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<v Speaker 7>just say four.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh and I you know, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Explored really a whole philosophical outlook kind of universalism, uh,

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<v Speaker 7>bringing together different sources of more or less the same

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<v Speaker 7>principles or different takes on the same principle of this

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<v Speaker 7>duality of polarity in the matrix of four. And as

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<v Speaker 7>time went on, I realized that there was a whole

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<v Speaker 7>other Really, the matrix of four is accused of being

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<v Speaker 7>esoteric in one sense, but there was a whole other

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<v Speaker 7>esoteric level to this duality of polarity. And so the

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<v Speaker 7>fourth initiation, there is no prior three.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>The fourth initiation is essentially where I explored the esoteric

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<v Speaker 7>and the exoteric understandings of different teachings. And this is

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<v Speaker 7>a significant polarity when we look at any allegory or

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<v Speaker 7>so on and so forth. Another polarity that is in

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<v Speaker 7>the world we live, not necessarily within the interpretation, but

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<v Speaker 7>is kind of put forth in a lot of different ways.

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<v Speaker 7>Is the basic and the capital, or the base in

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<v Speaker 7>the capital if you think about a pole, or the

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<v Speaker 7>basic and the enlightened, if you will. And a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of societal interpretations are kind of on the growth side

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<v Speaker 7>of the polarity. So let's let's go to the imagers,

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<v Speaker 7>and I'll start to tell kind of the little story

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<v Speaker 7>and you guys, if you have anything to to say,

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<v Speaker 7>please go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure of course. Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 7>So for me, the idea around this duality of polarity

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<v Speaker 7>or four began in a very exoteric manner. And is

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<v Speaker 7>that is that I wonder the images aren't coming through?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you would have to actually open

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<v Speaker 2>up the image probably and then choose that as the

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<v Speaker 2>window to share.

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<v Speaker 7>Shoot, my bust. Well, I'll just I'll just read read

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<v Speaker 7>this as as I try to export a few of these.

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<v Speaker 7>So I wrote The Complete Patriots Guide to Oligarchical Collectivism,

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<v Speaker 7>and I conceptualize that there's four types of mind states.

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<v Speaker 7>Idiots avoid all new pertinent information, Zelots ask only certain

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<v Speaker 7>questions of certain information, Elitists question information in order to

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<v Speaker 7>manipulate and reap gains off the information. And patriots question

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<v Speaker 7>information to share with others and benefit progress, initiate progress.

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<v Speaker 5>If you will.

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<v Speaker 7>And so this is kind of a really exoteric, simple

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<v Speaker 7>kind of way of understanding things.

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<v Speaker 5>And as I was exploring that.

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<v Speaker 7>Book, I realized that there were all sorts of different

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<v Speaker 7>aspects or sets of four, where there's over three and

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<v Speaker 7>a unsaid fourth right and one of the powerful ones

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<v Speaker 7>that I used, I think is the four wise monkeys,

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<v Speaker 7>and that is usually considered to be the three wise monkeys,

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<v Speaker 7>more widely known as the three Wise monkeys, but there's

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<v Speaker 7>actually four. There's see no evil, which is kind of

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<v Speaker 7>like the idiot that I put forth. There, there's here

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<v Speaker 7>no evil, which is kind of like the zealot. There's

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<v Speaker 7>speak no evil, which is very much like the elitists.

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<v Speaker 7>And there is fear no evil or do no evil.

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<v Speaker 7>And this monkey holds his abdomen right, and he's unmoved

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<v Speaker 7>and he's unafraid.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>So this this also has a whole esoteric construct to it,

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<v Speaker 7>and not just the exoteric as well, very very prominent

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<v Speaker 7>in Buddhism. This next one is from the Allegory of

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<v Speaker 7>the Cave, in which most people point out that there's

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<v Speaker 7>three character types in the Allegory of the Cave, the prisoners,

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<v Speaker 7>the captors, and the freed prisoner. But there's actually, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 7>two different types of prisoners. There's the chained and the unchained, right,

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<v Speaker 7>and this is this is very much like the idiots

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<v Speaker 7>and the zelots.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>The zelots don't need to be chained because it's they're

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<v Speaker 7>they're so entangled by the images, and so as I

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<v Speaker 7>began exploring things further, there's this whole kind of system

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<v Speaker 7>of understanding that really I put forth in the matrix

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<v Speaker 7>of four as four parts of four aspects. In other words,

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<v Speaker 7>each each of these four aspects has four parts. Excuse

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<v Speaker 7>my redundancy. And the first one I use is arithmetic,

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<v Speaker 7>and this is one that is absolute. There was a

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<v Speaker 7>time period where people were obsessed, where mathematicians were obsessed

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<v Speaker 7>with looking for a fifth operation.

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<v Speaker 5>Of arithmetic, and there really are noney.

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<v Speaker 7>All of mathematics goes upon the four operations of arithmetic,

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<v Speaker 7>and certainly in a very duality.

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<v Speaker 5>Of polarity modality.

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<v Speaker 7>And I call that the four aspects of the mental, right,

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<v Speaker 7>the four absolutes of the mental. There's also the breath

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<v Speaker 7>is the one I use for the physical. We can

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<v Speaker 7>we can go to that nick. The breath is an absolute,

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<v Speaker 7>not all life, but it's pretty much an absolute for

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<v Speaker 7>breathing life. That there is an inhalation and a pause full,

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<v Speaker 7>an exhalation and a pause empty. This is kind of

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<v Speaker 7>a meditation technique to accentuate and be mindful of the

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<v Speaker 7>pauses as well as the inhalation and exhalation and our breath,

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<v Speaker 7>which I use is the absolute of physical as opposed

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<v Speaker 7>to mental arithmetic functions. Just like this Yin yang depiction

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<v Speaker 7>of orbits, all all objects in orbit of one another

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<v Speaker 7>all around the universe. We can pretty much presume that's

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<v Speaker 7>like a big absolute. It may not be true everywhere

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<v Speaker 7>in the universe, for it is a big place, but

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<v Speaker 7>everywhere where there's objects in orbit, there are four.

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<v Speaker 5>Seasons, there's the there's.

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<v Speaker 7>The duality of polarity of equinoxes and solstices.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I got a quick question is do you

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<v Speaker 3>believe the number four and all of these polarities are

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<v Speaker 3>a type of transcendence from merely the physical realm.

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<v Speaker 7>I do believe that there is an aspect of understanding

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<v Speaker 7>the physical real realm towards being an empowered being in

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<v Speaker 7>this realm. And there's also the meditative and initiatory aspects

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<v Speaker 7>for certain And actually, that was funny you should mention

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<v Speaker 7>headless because that's really kind of the next idea where

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<v Speaker 7>I'm going, which, uh, what I use for the absolute

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<v Speaker 7>of orbit is clear, all objects are in orbit. The

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<v Speaker 7>next image nick is the own symbol, and this is

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<v Speaker 7>one of the oldest symbols on the planet, and it

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<v Speaker 7>is in four parts, and it is described in a

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<v Speaker 7>duality of polarity, and one can conceptualize it as a

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<v Speaker 7>depiction of consciousness for the material world and also a

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<v Speaker 7>initiatory device for self development and enlightenment. Here we see

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<v Speaker 7>on the left there that backwards, Well, what looks like

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<v Speaker 7>the three actually contains two parts, right, And I was

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<v Speaker 7>going to say, go to the next image, but I

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<v Speaker 7>I need.

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<v Speaker 1>To do that.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh So there's the duality of polarity of the OM symbol,

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<v Speaker 7>and the highest level is called Terrea, which simply means

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<v Speaker 7>the fourth So there's deep sleep and deep awakening, and

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<v Speaker 7>then there's deep dreaming.

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<v Speaker 5>And there's.

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<v Speaker 7>The terrea, the absolute deep awakening, right, and the point

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<v Speaker 7>is the terrea.

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<v Speaker 5>The line underneath.

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<v Speaker 7>That is the Sea of Mara or the barrier or whatever.

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<v Speaker 7>That is virtually impossible to cross this chasm from the

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<v Speaker 7>third state to the fourth state. But it is possible,

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<v Speaker 7>but but it takes takes a lot of dedication.

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<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, do you know how deeply proto Indo European

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<v Speaker 3>that symbol feels to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Think about that as a mountain, right, all of these

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<v Speaker 3>proto Indo European religions have a mountain, and what you're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about is the different levels in the sky, god realm. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>So you've got the Olympians at the absolute, You've got

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<v Speaker 3>Turia as being like the Saturnian character deep sleep as

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<v Speaker 3>the Titans, and then further down into number three, which

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<v Speaker 3>is dreaming, which would be our level, our contact with

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well this this has the dual polarity of the trees.

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<v Speaker 2>just for the duality.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's mathematics too, right, it's the duality of polarity.

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<v Speaker 7>Which that's not esoteric. It's just like the way that

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<v Speaker 3>Then tell me about what the video I showed you

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<v Speaker 7>Right, well, that's that's a whole whole rabbit hole. Really

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<v Speaker 7>cool how that goes down. And four has this whole

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<v Speaker 7>comparative unifying aspect to it too in its simplicity that

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<v Speaker 7>there's only four. But yeah, that was mind blowing to

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<v Speaker 7>They're they're from all these different uh places and times,

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<v Speaker 7>but they're really kind of the duality of polarity. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>this symbol, this symbol is the oldest symbol on the planet.

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<v Speaker 7>So and it was it was the It is so

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<v Speaker 7>old that it precedes the language. And and so you

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<v Speaker 7>don't right out, oh you put you put this this symbol. Oh,

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<v Speaker 7>and it's a it's a it's a four part annunciation

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<v Speaker 7>as well, three that are overt and one that is silence,

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<v Speaker 7>an exoteric philosophical outlook and also very deep internal esoteric development, right,

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<v Speaker 7>and and there are above and the below. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 7>so this this represents so much that we're only scanning

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<v Speaker 5>But but it's.

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<v Speaker 7>Important to note right that it has that esoteric and

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<v Speaker 7>next one. I think it's some writing. Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 7>a really important thing that is not too well known.

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<v Speaker 7>I found the ancient Egyptians conceptualized of course, what we

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<v Speaker 7>fourth so and and but it signifies the most enlightened

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<v Speaker 7>not a coincidence. I don't think the ancient Egyptians as well.

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<v Speaker 7>They of course have the main polarity of the living

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<v Speaker 7>and the dead, right, but they also have the polarity

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<v Speaker 7>of the living and the gods. And there's three dimensions.

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<v Speaker 7>The fourth dimension is for those that have transcended, for

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<v Speaker 7>the few human beings that have become godly. And so

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<v Speaker 7>there was this space within their kind of idea of creation.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's see. Uh So the next one I was describing

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<v Speaker 7>this symbol. Recently got an article on a cult Rejects

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<v Speaker 7>dot uh uh dot org Cult Rejects Institute.

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<v Speaker 5>One of my brain frying.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, the Cold Research Institute dot.

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<v Speaker 5>Or Research Research Institute.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you put the article.

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<v Speaker 1>Good.

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<v Speaker 7>Sorry, excuse my brain for I have a decent article

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<v Speaker 7>on there about the circumpunked. Next Nick, the next pictures

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<v Speaker 7>of the circumpunked with the twin pillars and the circumpunked

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<v Speaker 7>is essentially three parts that makes a new fourth thing

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<v Speaker 7>one could one could extrapolate. But you have the point,

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<v Speaker 7>and you have the space, and you have the ring.

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<v Speaker 7>Those are the overt three and to each side, often

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<v Speaker 7>depicted in uh freemasonic imagery, to each side. It is

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<v Speaker 7>the duality of polarity. And it's almost as if you

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<v Speaker 7>have a three and a two and a two. And

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<v Speaker 7>so I was conceptualizing this and it came to me

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<v Speaker 7>one time that this seems like an important thing. The

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<v Speaker 7>trinity and the polarity and the polarity are really kind

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<v Speaker 7>of one of these symbols that might have a perverse

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<v Speaker 7>and an enlightenment and an enlightened aspect to it.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, have you ever seen green lantern comics?

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<v Speaker 7>Of course, Yeah, break it down? What am I forgetting?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you turn that symbol sideway right right right,

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<v Speaker 3>so you've got the green and the gold, and it

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<v Speaker 3>kind of makes the one, two, three, four five, and

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<v Speaker 3>the fit level is sort of like the heart chakra,

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<v Speaker 3>which is the tifferrath, which is kind of green and gold.

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<v Speaker 3>And like their enemies are the yellow lanterns, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>so they're fighting against them. So it's the green versus

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<v Speaker 3>the yellow, and you've got that whole sort of tiphoretic

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<v Speaker 3>feel to anything you imagine, anything you can feel you

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<v Speaker 3>can actually create with the with the green lantern. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like manifesting.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, And that's what I feel like the circumpunct kind

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<v Speaker 7>of when you focus on it just in your minds.

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<v Speaker 7>I it really has a concentration modality for one, So

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<v Speaker 7>it really I think does help accomplish, but I think

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<v Speaker 7>the understanding of the duality of polarity really helps accomplish.

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<v Speaker 7>One being a set of mercy and one being a

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<v Speaker 7>set of severity, but the point being that you create

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<v Speaker 7>and destroy either in severe or merciful terms. Mostly nowadays

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<v Speaker 7>we're only in the severity. And in fact, we did

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<v Speaker 7>a great program on Yahweh and Asherah. They're a total

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<v Speaker 7>duality of polarity, unto themselves that.

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<v Speaker 5>We only have Yahweh. Now, who's the.

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<v Speaker 7>Storm God obviously related to severity creation destruction through severity,

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<v Speaker 7>where Asha was creation destruction through mercy. And then in

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<v Speaker 7>the center you have the Trinity or the thrice great

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<v Speaker 7>of the initiate. So let's go, let's go to the

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<v Speaker 7>next one, which it's kind of saying the same thing.

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<v Speaker 7>But three two two is this Americana kind of.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, lore Nick, you want to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, yes, I was like, it's just in my seat.

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<v Speaker 7>Three two two is also in Genesis. It has a

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<v Speaker 7>polarity in it, right, and insinuates even two polarities because

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<v Speaker 7>there's there's uh two powerful polarities that are really you know, primary.

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<v Speaker 7>And of course they're talking about the tree right there too,

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<v Speaker 7>which what is the tree? Two polarities?

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<v Speaker 5>The skulls and bones? To me, what she's talking about

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<v Speaker 5>that is that is the skull and bones. Yes, that

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<v Speaker 5>is the skull and bones.

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<v Speaker 7>And and my point in bringing them up is not

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<v Speaker 7>that they're correct and not that they're on it. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>saying that they're using symbolism to whatever they might be

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<v Speaker 7>symbolizing it for I'm not sure, but I think that

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<v Speaker 7>for me, when I see the three two two, I

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<v Speaker 7>no longer see three two two, I see trinity, polarity, polarity,

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<v Speaker 7>and you've.

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<v Speaker 3>Also you've also got you've also got multiplication. So if

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<v Speaker 3>you multiply them like the two bones make it acts,

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<v Speaker 3>you get twelve, which is like the twelve sides of

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<v Speaker 3>the Zodiac. It's like they're they're making a perverse symbol

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<v Speaker 3>for the zodiac.

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<v Speaker 7>They're using symbolism in a perverse and basic manner. Write

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<v Speaker 7>that whole idea where you can use it in esoteric

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<v Speaker 7>and exoteric and basic and enlightened, right, And they're using

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<v Speaker 7>it probably for very basic, gross means.

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<v Speaker 8>And it seems like some stuff that's meant to be

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<v Speaker 8>just like for the esoteric, they try to take that

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<v Speaker 8>and make it for the exoteric and completely subverts it, right,

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<v Speaker 8>It completely destroys what.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh original, Yes, I totally agree with it.

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<v Speaker 5>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>We gets considered the.

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<v Speaker 2>The you know, the stuff that comes like kind of

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<v Speaker 2>everybody understands somehow becomes like, oh, that's all there is

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<v Speaker 2>to it, that's the deepest ship, and we all know

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, Like, stuff like that happens, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, So, just an interesting phenomena that relates to this

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<v Speaker 7>idea of the thrice great the initiated being in control

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<v Speaker 7>of this duality of polarity. And I'm not advocating them,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm trying to pierce the veil of what they might

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<v Speaker 7>be using not that they've not that they figured it out,

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<v Speaker 7>they're using it potentially if if that has anything to

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<v Speaker 7>do with the interpretations.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that verse is the most powerful one in

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<v Speaker 3>the Bible. That's for the rest of the book.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, that's that's at the point where it's

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<v Speaker 2>like you fucked right.

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<v Speaker 7>It's the cosmological tone, you know, And a different religious

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<v Speaker 7>and cosmological constructs have this same for mannerism, often of

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<v Speaker 7>the good and evil, or often masculine and feminine, as

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<v Speaker 7>Adam and Eve and life and death. Most cosmologies begin

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<v Speaker 7>with these two polarities that are like the most powerful

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<v Speaker 7>considerations there are among time.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you've got a dual polarity right there on that image.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's the cross.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's a mathematical rule that two lines intersecting create

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<v Speaker 7>four corners. So every cross, mathematically it's two lines intersecting.

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<v Speaker 7>However elaborate it gets, it creates the four.

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<v Speaker 5>All right.

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<v Speaker 7>So the next one is just me trying to be funny,

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<v Speaker 7>little little mammology. And Carl Young was fascinated with this idea,

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<v Speaker 7>and many times in his writing and in his speeches

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<v Speaker 7>he mentioned that there there's three, but where's the fourth

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<v Speaker 7>and actually, uh, in the free introduction on Amazon of

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<v Speaker 7>my book The Fourth Initiation, one of the first things

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<v Speaker 7>I explore is the Barto Total, the Tibetan Book of

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<v Speaker 7>the Dead, which is itself a very esoteric idea of

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<v Speaker 7>fascinating book, super fascinating. One of the dopest things Carl

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<v Speaker 7>Young pointed out about it is that, of course, on

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<v Speaker 7>the exoteric, on the primary level of this great teaching

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<v Speaker 7>is that it is elaborating on the time between death

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<v Speaker 7>and rebirth. But if you read it backwards, Carl Jung

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<v Speaker 7>noted out, from from last chapter on to the second

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<v Speaker 7>to last chapter, and so on to the first chapter,

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<v Speaker 7>so that it that it is last, it is a

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of story, every story arc takes place in four acts. Really,

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<v Speaker 3>so that fourth act is.

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<v Speaker 9>A song written that way too, yep, for four yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 9>I would I would go even deeper to say that

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<v Speaker 9>the whole Bible is, in fact not just the four Gospels,

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<v Speaker 9>but the.

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<v Speaker 7>Whole Christ story is a set of four and possibly

427
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:08.039
<v Speaker 7>even directly related to Hinduism traditions. But there's the birth, life, death,

428
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:13.759
<v Speaker 7>and resurrection, and and in our lifetimes we go through

429
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:17.200
<v Speaker 7>this in a symbolic way many different times, and and

430
00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:22.599
<v Speaker 7>of course the the uh exoteric and perverse mannerism would

431
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.920
<v Speaker 7>be you know, taking it into too different different manners.

432
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:29.839
<v Speaker 7>But but this is this is the story of the Bible,

433
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:33.759
<v Speaker 7>one of resurrection. That's the fourth element, that's the silent part,

434
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:37.640
<v Speaker 7>that is uh, you know, so.

435
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:42.519
<v Speaker 3>So valuable, that's so attractive to so many people because

436
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:44.440
<v Speaker 3>it provides that fourth step.

437
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:49.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, man.

438
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:58.400
<v Speaker 7>So the next uh uh, let's see, So this one

439
00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:04.680
<v Speaker 7>is elaboration of the symbol with the yin and yang

440
00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:09.720
<v Speaker 7>and the four humers, the four uh the four humors

441
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:14.920
<v Speaker 7>were a Greek system of understanding what is uh, one

442
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:19.680
<v Speaker 7>could say, very similar if not exactly the same as

443
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:28.079
<v Speaker 7>one of the yin yang diagnosics practices of traditional Chinese medicine. Right,

444
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:34.039
<v Speaker 7>so very similar these ancient practices. And you have the

445
00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:35.880
<v Speaker 7>four colors of alchemy.

446
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, in in.

447
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:43.799
<v Speaker 7>The phlegm and yellow bile and black bile and blood.

448
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:46.880
<v Speaker 5>Right. So, so when when.

449
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:50.160
<v Speaker 7>They say that there's four types of people or that

450
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:55.039
<v Speaker 7>there's four types of problems, will you know, are they

451
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:58.079
<v Speaker 7>what are they talking about? Exactly right? Because the ancient

452
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:03.839
<v Speaker 7>excuse me, the American Indians have a similar color construct

453
00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:08.920
<v Speaker 7>in in their symbolism.

454
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

455
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<v Speaker 4>I take this image and look into the elementals with

456
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:15.640
<v Speaker 4>it now too, you know, because the four elementals, uh,

457
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:19.319
<v Speaker 4>you tie into almost everything when you look at being,

458
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:25.200
<v Speaker 4>like the you know, the what is it, the astral fire,

459
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:30.160
<v Speaker 4>the ethereal water, the physical earth, and the mental air.

460
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:30.759
<v Speaker 5>Right.

461
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:37.400
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and and there's what that's become one of my

462
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:44.079
<v Speaker 7>favorite words, element elements because it's so esoteric, but it's

463
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:47.480
<v Speaker 7>often considered very primary and physical, but it actually says

464
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:50.839
<v Speaker 7>godly mind. I think it's this godly mind, but you

465
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:57.039
<v Speaker 7>but it literally says godmind, right, l elements, this godmind.

466
00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:04.440
<v Speaker 7>So alchemy is very much associated with the physical development

467
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:10.519
<v Speaker 7>of chemical systems and so forth, and godmind right becoming

468
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:15.760
<v Speaker 7>the internal exoteric self development. And my next picture is

469
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<v Speaker 7>actually of the four elements, but the four elements of

470
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:23.760
<v Speaker 7>the Philosopher's Stone, right, which brings together exactly what Jules

471
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:28.079
<v Speaker 7>just talked about. There's the four elements of the Philosopher's Stone.

472
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:31.639
<v Speaker 7>Why is there four elements because I think because of

473
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:35.320
<v Speaker 7>obviously the four elements that we just spoke of, but

474
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<v Speaker 7>also the four elements that are at the basis of

475
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:44.199
<v Speaker 7>almost everything. If we're looking at things through that veil.

476
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:47.599
<v Speaker 7>It's not the only way to look at things, but

477
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:51.800
<v Speaker 7>it's a powerful way to start to look at look

478
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:52.280
<v Speaker 7>at things.

479
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:55.480
<v Speaker 3>And the next you kind of have a reflection of

480
00:34:55.519 --> 00:35:00.119
<v Speaker 3>both the three and the five within the image. So

481
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:04.599
<v Speaker 3>the three and the four creates the twelve, right, And

482
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:08.559
<v Speaker 3>when you're talking about the five and the four, you're

483
00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:12.440
<v Speaker 3>talking about fractals, right, So you've got the fifth element,

484
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.559
<v Speaker 3>which is all these different fractals coming off, which you

485
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:18.119
<v Speaker 3>could do within the next circle or the next circle

486
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:21.599
<v Speaker 3>out right, So each one of these circles is equidistant,

487
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:27.639
<v Speaker 3>and that creates another fractaling creation from the symbol itself.

488
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:32.679
<v Speaker 3>So you've got five and the three, which you know,

489
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<v Speaker 3>philosophers Stone incorporates both of these numbers very heavily.

490
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then I was going to point out you

491
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<v Speaker 4>have the feminine inside of the masculine, and then the

492
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:48.320
<v Speaker 4>masculine inside of the feminine. I don't know, it's it's.

493
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:51.199
<v Speaker 3>Kind of weird, that's perfect.

494
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:54.000
<v Speaker 4>I've noticed that a lot with a lot of these symbols,

495
00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:58.280
<v Speaker 4>And you were talking about the polarity stuff earlier, you know,

496
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:01.320
<v Speaker 4>the kind of exactly realistic aspect to.

497
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:02.239
<v Speaker 1>It, just real quick.

498
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<v Speaker 2>I was just even thinking of how you kind of

499
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:06.320
<v Speaker 2>like said that you're seeing repeating. I wonder if that

500
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:09.039
<v Speaker 2>even goes with like the yadhey vade for because what

501
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:13.119
<v Speaker 2>you know that's for again, but that is you know, king, queen,

502
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:16.800
<v Speaker 2>prince and princess, So you would see like male female

503
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:21.559
<v Speaker 2>male female repeat that way, right, So I wonder like

504
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:23.599
<v Speaker 2>if there's like something to like what you were saying here.

505
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:27.320
<v Speaker 4>I wonder if and I was also thinking against he

506
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:29.920
<v Speaker 4>was talking about like four stages to like some kind

507
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:34.039
<v Speaker 4>of piece of art, right, there's also four stages to life.

508
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:37.679
<v Speaker 4>In a way, tetra.

509
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:42.639
<v Speaker 3>Grammaton just means four full name, right, so they're talking

510
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:45.840
<v Speaker 3>about these different letters within that. So tetragrammaton and the

511
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:54.920
<v Speaker 3>tetra graandma tom formula. You know, is that generation go ahead, Jules,

512
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:59.159
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, no, no, no. I I was just pointing that out.

513
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<v Speaker 4>You can't to have like your young like from when

514
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:05.960
<v Speaker 4>you were born up until you become a young adult.

515
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:09.639
<v Speaker 4>That to when you're like you know, in your forties

516
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:12.519
<v Speaker 4>or fifties, like your early fifties maybe that until your

517
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:15.239
<v Speaker 4>late age and then you know, because we're supposed to

518
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:18.639
<v Speaker 4>live for longer, up until probably a little past one hundred.

519
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:23.679
<v Speaker 4>Just like if we were to live healthy, like if

520
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:26.760
<v Speaker 4>we were to live a healthier lifestyle and you know,

521
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:30.039
<v Speaker 4>be able to stay away from all this shit that

522
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:32.039
<v Speaker 4>the government puts in the air and in the food

523
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:34.480
<v Speaker 4>and in the water and all that, we'd probably be

524
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:35.599
<v Speaker 4>able to live a little longer.

525
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Right, So, oh, definitely, definitely.

526
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:41.400
<v Speaker 4>Maybe I'm off on that, maybe there's more than four

527
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:45.119
<v Speaker 4>stages to life, but I'm thinking like in a long

528
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:47.360
<v Speaker 4>span kind.

529
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<v Speaker 7>Of Yeah, No, it's the primary. It's the primary. And

530
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:53.119
<v Speaker 7>then of course there could be several different other fatsets

531
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:56.119
<v Speaker 7>as things go on, and you could recognize, but it is,

532
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:59.800
<v Speaker 7>it is considered the primary American Indians from the Hindus

533
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:04.599
<v Speaker 7>is the four stages of life. And here's another depiction

534
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:09.760
<v Speaker 7>of the four elements. Again one of my favorite words

535
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:15.679
<v Speaker 7>because it just it denotes that alchemy of becoming the godmind.

536
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:22.719
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, and the next one I Nick just took off.

537
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:28.119
<v Speaker 7>But this also we can see duality of polarity obvious, right,

538
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:34.000
<v Speaker 7>I Mean, that's that's a an easy easy note there.

539
00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:37.119
<v Speaker 3>What it all comes together you have as above, so

540
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.719
<v Speaker 3>below you get all the figures combined.

541
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:47.599
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, and again you're masculine and feminine triangles, right.

542
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:51.119
<v Speaker 3>Projective, receptive.

543
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:55.559
<v Speaker 7>And one thing I like to do just as a

544
00:38:55.719 --> 00:39:00.119
<v Speaker 7>kind of mental exercise is find contrasts. So if these

545
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:06.880
<v Speaker 7>shapes are depicting an idea, it is a wonderful format

546
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:12.039
<v Speaker 7>to just form contrasts. But usually people only go to

547
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:17.400
<v Speaker 7>an either or contrast, and that's very limiting. You know,

548
00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:21.280
<v Speaker 7>if you have the A and B, that's the either or,

549
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:23.519
<v Speaker 7>but you have to have the A B too. The

550
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:27.719
<v Speaker 7>synthesis and the nalysis is the term that I came

551
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:31.920
<v Speaker 7>up with, and you know, to that, there's the whole

552
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:39.800
<v Speaker 7>idea of thesis, anti thesis and synthesis related to cause

553
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:47.440
<v Speaker 7>a cause? What is the three M thinking of? Where

554
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:49.719
<v Speaker 7>they where they steer decision making?

555
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:50.079
<v Speaker 5>Right?

556
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:57.400
<v Speaker 7>The Hegelian dialectic is from this thesis solution problem reaction

557
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:02.239
<v Speaker 7>solution is from this philis offical outlook of thesis, anti

558
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:04.559
<v Speaker 7>thesis and synthesis.

559
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:06.360
<v Speaker 5>The solution often has.

560
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:09.559
<v Speaker 7>Pointed out as they already had it planned right.

561
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:11.519
<v Speaker 5>So uh.

562
00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:14.320
<v Speaker 7>And the next one, one of my favorite sets of

563
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<v Speaker 7>four is geometry, and I feel like this is really

564
00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:25.599
<v Speaker 7>not only valuable in understanding things, but it is really

565
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:29.519
<v Speaker 7>the basis for the biblical God, as we'll see. Nixt

566
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:35.159
<v Speaker 7>Nick go to the next one, and and here's yahweh

567
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:39.000
<v Speaker 7>h excuse me. Here here is yode hey yap right,

568
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:46.000
<v Speaker 7>and the yode it literally is the point. The four

569
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:51.119
<v Speaker 7>dimensions of geometry begins with the point. The next is

570
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:55.960
<v Speaker 7>a window and behold, so a window it implies a view,

571
00:40:57.119 --> 00:40:59.239
<v Speaker 7>and it is very much like a plane, like a

572
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:02.360
<v Speaker 7>plane of glass. But it also there's a room. So

573
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:08.039
<v Speaker 7>they're using the same word here to symbolize I think

574
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:15.360
<v Speaker 7>plane and volume. So and the vove again, it literally

575
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:18.239
<v Speaker 7>means peg or connector or nail.

576
00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:20.400
<v Speaker 5>It is it is the line.

577
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:25.880
<v Speaker 7>So the whole Bible at its basis when they talk

578
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:29.760
<v Speaker 7>about the g and generation and geometry, it's the four

579
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:31.199
<v Speaker 7>dimensions of geometry.

580
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:37.199
<v Speaker 5>It's right there. So the next one.

581
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh, you don't wanted to say real quick, Ethan, you

582
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:41.639
<v Speaker 2>might have been a I think you had the screen off.

583
00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:43.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you can still hear. Did you

584
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:46.440
<v Speaker 2>hear what I said about the yad vade before? I?

585
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:49.039
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, you were getting at that. What what would

586
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:49.880
<v Speaker 7>repeat it?

587
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:53.639
<v Speaker 2>Jules had mentioned before like sometimes and he's right, you'll

588
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:55.920
<v Speaker 2>see like kind of like male female male female like

589
00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:59.440
<v Speaker 2>symbolism within each other, you know, and going back and forth.

590
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:01.039
<v Speaker 2>And I said, I, you know, I wonder if that

591
00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:04.679
<v Speaker 2>could maybe be even represented the Yad formula or if

592
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:07.119
<v Speaker 2>there is like the same idea behind that, because if

593
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:10.480
<v Speaker 2>you think about it magically, if I was using it,

594
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:13.159
<v Speaker 2>like you know, in ceremonial magic, that would be the

595
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:15.800
<v Speaker 2>only king, queen, prince, and princess.

596
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean you're getting you know, male female male fall.

597
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:20.920
<v Speaker 4>And that's funny that you would see this with the

598
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:24.440
<v Speaker 4>name of a deity, right, because the same thing happens

599
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:33.719
<v Speaker 4>with fuck, the same thing happens. I'm pretty sure with Lucifer.

600
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:38.320
<v Speaker 4>Trying to remember, I think the Greeks maybe worship Lucifer

601
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:40.360
<v Speaker 4>as Mars, right headless.

602
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:44.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, the Greeks thought of Lucifer.

603
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:49.320
<v Speaker 4>Lucifer as Mars. Sorry, is the.

604
00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Titan of the Dawn and so Yos for us is

605
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.840
<v Speaker 3>what they call called Lucifer.

606
00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:57.639
<v Speaker 5>Which is where comes from.

607
00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:06.000
<v Speaker 3>It's it's the Latin or eosphorous. So yeah, yeah, in Latin,

608
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:12.480
<v Speaker 3>his mother would be called Aurora, like Aurora Colorado. Okay,

609
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:18.360
<v Speaker 3>but think about this as if it's hieroglyphs, right, you

610
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:21.519
<v Speaker 3>have the father above, you have the daughter with the

611
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:24.519
<v Speaker 3>hair coming down or the window with the light shining in.

612
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:29.199
<v Speaker 3>Then you have the sun as the generation below, and

613
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:32.599
<v Speaker 3>then you have the daughter with the hair coming down,

614
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:35.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, sort of like the vision of the mother. Yeah,

615
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:39.519
<v Speaker 3>you've almost got the hieroglyphs for those four different parts

616
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:41.079
<v Speaker 3>of the terror.

617
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.280
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeah, yeah, I was.

618
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:47.719
<v Speaker 6>Just going to say they represent him as Mars because

619
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:49.519
<v Speaker 6>of the red glow that Mars is.

620
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:54.119
<v Speaker 4>Right, and then but then also there's a feminine aspect

621
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:59.280
<v Speaker 4>being Venus, right, Yeah. I think it's like that with

622
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:04.400
<v Speaker 4>maybe all the planets. I don't know, maybe I few.

623
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:07.239
<v Speaker 5>Will you can probably find bits and pieces of it.

624
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:11.599
<v Speaker 1>I think they all have the same aspect. They'll both have.

625
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh what was that positive and negatives.

626
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Venus specifically, you've got uh Venus and Adonis. Right, You've

627
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:28.840
<v Speaker 3>got the idea of these uh dying and rising figures

628
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:32.400
<v Speaker 3>being associated with this planet of Venus, which is this

629
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:36.199
<v Speaker 3>morning star and evening star. One third of the year

630
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:38.800
<v Speaker 3>it's in the morning and one third of the year

631
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:42.960
<v Speaker 3>it's in the evening. So having the Venus connection, which

632
00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:46.159
<v Speaker 3>creates a big flower of life in the sky, it's

633
00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:48.400
<v Speaker 3>sort of like the completion of four, which would be

634
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:48.840
<v Speaker 3>the five.

635
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

636
00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:59.199
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, And I always or I started to think about

637
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<v Speaker 7>the tetragram aton as being kind of a secret that

638
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<v Speaker 7>is overtly right in front of our face. Because the pentagram,

639
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:16.119
<v Speaker 7>we know that that means five count shape, right, but

640
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<v Speaker 7>tetra gram that would be a four count shape. But

641
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<v Speaker 7>it's not tetragram, it's tetragrammaton. And so that suffix is ation.

642
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:30.320
<v Speaker 7>It's similar to shun t i o n in English

643
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<v Speaker 7>or Latin even.

644
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:35.000
<v Speaker 5>Variously.

645
00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:40.280
<v Speaker 7>And but but I think it means grammar, grammation. Right,

646
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<v Speaker 7>So this this whole idea of the uh, what is

647
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<v Speaker 7>tetragrammaton When you look it up in the Bible, Tetragrammaton

648
00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:52.199
<v Speaker 7>is L. What is l L is God? And so

649
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:56.800
<v Speaker 7>tetragrammaton is literally saying that it's a it's a four

650
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:00.159
<v Speaker 7>grammar of understanding God.

651
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:01.280
<v Speaker 1>In a way. You know, you.

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<v Speaker 7>Talk about five, though, five I think is really important,

653
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<v Speaker 7>and I think east and west. One thing that is

654
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:15.719
<v Speaker 7>shared with the five is motion. It puts these base

655
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<v Speaker 7>pillars into motion. So you could you could you could

656
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<v Speaker 7>think about five as being the activation actually very much

657
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:27.960
<v Speaker 7>like our hands, right, we have four fingers.

658
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:31.400
<v Speaker 5>But what makes it work? Is the fifth?

659
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:33.960
<v Speaker 4>Well, right, no, that's that. That's what I was going

660
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:36.280
<v Speaker 4>to say. You have your four fingers and then your thumb,

661
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:42.079
<v Speaker 4>which is your godhead, right, and uh yeah, same thing

662
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:46.280
<v Speaker 4>with the you know, the what's it called the Vitruvian

663
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:50.679
<v Speaker 4>Man or whatever. Yeah, five points. But then with like

664
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:56.719
<v Speaker 4>the crucified man, you have four. Right, So I don't know,

665
00:46:57.199 --> 00:46:58.440
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if there's something to that.

666
00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:02.119
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you just drug my curiosity on that because I

667
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:04.280
<v Speaker 6>love the Simpsons. I've been watching the Simpsons since I

668
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:06.320
<v Speaker 6>was a little kid, since they first came out, right,

669
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:10.239
<v Speaker 6>And if you remember, they had four fingers, right, and

670
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:15.039
<v Speaker 6>uh god when they when God was shown in the Simpsons,

671
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:18.639
<v Speaker 6>he had what we would call normal.

672
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:20.760
<v Speaker 5>Five four fingers in the thumb.

673
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:24.159
<v Speaker 4>Remember, Oh that's crazy.

674
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:28.679
<v Speaker 5>You know what everybody says about Matt Greeney too.

675
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:32.639
<v Speaker 3>So well, yeah, they were messing with dimensions, weren't they.

676
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:36.320
<v Speaker 3>That's what they're kind of telling you what They actually

677
00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:36.639
<v Speaker 3>had it.

678
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:38.280
<v Speaker 5>They actually had a show on that too.

679
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:42.000
<v Speaker 3>They had a bunch of shows on that.

680
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:46.119
<v Speaker 4>Well they I mean, The Simpsons has predicted how how

681
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:49.920
<v Speaker 4>much shit that's happened, Like they've definitely, they definitely had

682
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:54.760
<v Speaker 4>some form of like I don't know, some kind of

683
00:47:54.960 --> 00:48:00.559
<v Speaker 4>loophole or portal looking into the future, like I I

684
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:01.199
<v Speaker 4>don't think.

685
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:02.800
<v Speaker 3>About all the treehouses of horror.

686
00:48:03.320 --> 00:48:05.639
<v Speaker 4>I'm fucking convinced now, dude, Like.

687
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:07.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, about the houses of Horror.

688
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Y know, I have brought that up before, you know, Jules,

689
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:13.400
<v Speaker 2>that's like I've seen the Simpsons do that so much.

690
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:18.119
<v Speaker 2>You have the song questioning how you know what I'm saying, like, like,

691
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:20.239
<v Speaker 2>how are they? You know, like I know it is

692
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:22.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of interesting and like wow, like this's pretty cool,

693
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:24.559
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, they they called it out, but it's like.

694
00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Wow, the fuck are you doing that? Yeah?

695
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:32.559
<v Speaker 4>It is fucking weird? Man project looking Glass?

696
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:34.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah it was.

697
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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, man, I think this kind of stuff

698
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:41.440
<v Speaker 4>has been around a lot longer than you're told, uh,

699
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:44.760
<v Speaker 4>through many ways, you know, scrying or however.

700
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Think about how archetyple the show is. All the different

701
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:55.400
<v Speaker 3>elements of that show are like archetyple of different factions

702
00:48:55.440 --> 00:49:00.480
<v Speaker 3>within society. So they're making statements about all of these

703
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:04.840
<v Speaker 3>different relationships that have to do with how we see

704
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:08.239
<v Speaker 3>each other and you know, sort of like stereotypes, and

705
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:12.199
<v Speaker 3>they were able to do that because it wasn't as

706
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:15.000
<v Speaker 3>woke back then, but in doing so, it made these

707
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:18.360
<v Speaker 3>relationships that sort of stick in our minds. When it

708
00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:22.400
<v Speaker 3>comes to relationships with other people. You can kind of

709
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.440
<v Speaker 3>steer people around through their behaviors a little bit.

710
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:30.800
<v Speaker 4>I think, now, what does this represent, Nathan, Because this

711
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:33.599
<v Speaker 4>is the this is the alchemical colors all over again.

712
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:38.039
<v Speaker 7>Yes, this is an American Indian medicine wheel, and it

713
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:45.239
<v Speaker 7>represents the four brothers of Man, white, black, red, and

714
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:51.000
<v Speaker 7>yellow skinned people. And their idea is that these people

715
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:57.039
<v Speaker 7>all come together and bring out the one idea in

716
00:49:57.400 --> 00:50:02.519
<v Speaker 7>a unified manner. Each one has a different aspect of

717
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:05.639
<v Speaker 7>the story that when brought together, they.

718
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:07.360
<v Speaker 5>Get the whole story right.

719
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:15.119
<v Speaker 7>And the four directions the four people's the four is numerous,

720
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<v Speaker 7>widely significant among the American Indian people, especially in the Southwest.

721
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<v Speaker 1>You know.

722
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:25.519
<v Speaker 2>Okay, one thing that I've noticed with the Native American

723
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:28.320
<v Speaker 2>symbolism too, you see it popping up like in a

724
00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:33.639
<v Speaker 2>occultism that came over from like Europe, but like symbolism here.

725
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:36.960
<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of interesting. I have seen that happen,

726
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Like it's certain ocult orders are actually like you.

727
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<v Speaker 4>Who did they learn it from? Like the day did

728
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:45.000
<v Speaker 4>they learn it from some ancient occult order that was

729
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:48.480
<v Speaker 4>there long before, you know, long before we were told

730
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:51.760
<v Speaker 4>the first people came over and found America.

731
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh, like I think go ahead.

732
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<v Speaker 5>No, I just was gonna say, I think it's possible,

733
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<v Speaker 5>please go ahead.

734
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<v Speaker 2>And there like like an example is a Denning and Phillips.

735
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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember their first name. They have like some

736
00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:08.920
<v Speaker 2>book set on magic. I mean I didn't know until

737
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:11.119
<v Speaker 2>I think I had thrash on when he covered like

738
00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:17.079
<v Speaker 2>the Micmac the Micmacs. This star is or this symbol

739
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:18.800
<v Speaker 2>they have on the front of their cover is a

740
00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:21.320
<v Speaker 2>fucking their medicine wheel. But it just looks different than

741
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:25.559
<v Speaker 2>normal people. I mean, that's different than normal ones. So

742
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:27.119
<v Speaker 2>like you kind of thought it was like some just

743
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:29.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, fancy a pointed star. And then I was like, oh,

744
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:32.480
<v Speaker 2>they're actually just ripping off a fucking Native American symbol

745
00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:34.719
<v Speaker 2>and they put it on the front of their magic book.

746
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:39.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, so shit like that. Somebody doesn't even know

747
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:42.400
<v Speaker 2>what that is. They just take for granted some you know,

748
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:44.199
<v Speaker 2>ceremonial magic symbol.

749
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:46.800
<v Speaker 4>I was like, well, it's it's like, you know, it's

750
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:48.480
<v Speaker 4>kind of like that with squaws.

751
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:50.639
<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, he goes, yeah, like.

752
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:53.119
<v Speaker 4>More of an ancient symbol than a lot of people,

753
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:56.719
<v Speaker 4>you know, like they're not even aware of that. And

754
00:51:56.760 --> 00:52:00.960
<v Speaker 4>how many civilizations and cultures have you use that symbol?

755
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:06.079
<v Speaker 4>Maybe headless those where it actually came from originally, I

756
00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:07.119
<v Speaker 4>don't really know.

757
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:13.440
<v Speaker 3>It's ubiquitous across five continents during a certain time period

758
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:17.599
<v Speaker 3>in prehistory. You've got that symbol as being ubiquitous across

759
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:21.079
<v Speaker 3>five continents. If that doesn't mean people were connected, I

760
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:21.960
<v Speaker 3>don't know what to tell you.

761
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Man.

762
00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:23.880
<v Speaker 5>Well, here's a.

763
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<v Speaker 7>Symbol, and this is used often as a calendar, right,

764
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:35.360
<v Speaker 7>medicine wheel would be used as a calendar system overtly, ceremoniously,

765
00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:39.599
<v Speaker 7>probably different ways to Here is what I think a

766
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:48.239
<v Speaker 7>significant set of four pertaining to all the megalithic constructions.

767
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:48.000
<v Speaker 5>On the planet.

768
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:55.800
<v Speaker 7>They are all markers of day, year, and direction and

769
00:52:56.880 --> 00:52:58.360
<v Speaker 7>celestial connection.

770
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:07.360
<v Speaker 4>Dude, speaking of we're just talking about Germany. These are

771
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:10.679
<v Speaker 4>the These are the colors for the German flag. Yes,

772
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:13.039
<v Speaker 4>that weird synchronicity.

773
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:16.239
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, proto Indo European.

774
00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, they were very much the alchemists, yeah.

775
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:25.199
<v Speaker 3>Man, Albido, Negrito Rubido and I forgot what the yellow

776
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:26.480
<v Speaker 3>one was do you know what that is?

777
00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:27.000
<v Speaker 9>In Latin?

778
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:29.000
<v Speaker 5>I forget right.

779
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:31.679
<v Speaker 1>Now, Dan, you put us all on the spot.

780
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:34.119
<v Speaker 4>Fuck, I gotta look into that now. I'm sorry, guys.

781
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:40.760
<v Speaker 7>This is a wonderful aspect of what this medicine wheel represents,

782
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:43.400
<v Speaker 7>where all these ideas come together and they get the

783
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:47.079
<v Speaker 7>full story rather than just the aspects that they've been

784
00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:47.719
<v Speaker 7>holding onto.

785
00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:51.719
<v Speaker 5>For the symbol of war really has that too, right?

786
00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:56.360
<v Speaker 7>And let's let's go to the next one, because each

787
00:53:56.400 --> 00:54:00.559
<v Speaker 7>of these we could spend a lot of time on

788
00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:07.840
<v Speaker 7>and and find that there's the exoteric philosophical aspect and

789
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:12.840
<v Speaker 7>the esoteric initiatory aspect too, even of the medicine wheel.

790
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:19.760
<v Speaker 7>One of the most esoteric games that is probably you

791
00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:24.840
<v Speaker 7>know as the mostoteric fans is baseball. And and we

792
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:31.599
<v Speaker 7>can see that there is a compass and square set

793
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:36.800
<v Speaker 7>up on the field right. The reason it is base

794
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:42.239
<v Speaker 7>ball is not because of the bases. It's because four

795
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:48.079
<v Speaker 7>is base. Your base set of thinking is four.

796
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:50.079
<v Speaker 4>Ethan.

797
00:54:50.679 --> 00:54:53.519
<v Speaker 7>Well, well, there's a really dope article where I get

798
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:57.679
<v Speaker 7>into this on the Occult Research Institute dot org, so

799
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<v Speaker 7>check it. But but again, this is just I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 7>say it's necessarily perverse in a damned way, but it's

801
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<v Speaker 7>a it's a perverse presentation of highly esoteric ritual.

802
00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:12.440
<v Speaker 3>Are all sports like.

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00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:17.719
<v Speaker 7>Well, you can find different aspects of it, but none

804
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:20.039
<v Speaker 7>like baseball, none like this.

805
00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:22.719
<v Speaker 4>That's well, that's probably one of the oldest ones, right.

806
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:24.960
<v Speaker 5>That's it is.

807
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:29.639
<v Speaker 7>It is out of England, and you know it's developed

808
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<v Speaker 7>over many years into what it is now. It used

809
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:37.280
<v Speaker 7>to be different and it's modified, you know.

810
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<v Speaker 4>So you look at the Angels in the outfield that

811
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<v Speaker 4>is also literally angels in the outfield. Wow, the movie

812
00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:50.239
<v Speaker 4>title has such an esoteric meaning to it. Maybe I

813
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:53.639
<v Speaker 4>don't know. Yeah, that's weird.

814
00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:58.199
<v Speaker 6>Mans through movies, you know, they they're entertained because they

815
00:55:58.239 --> 00:56:00.199
<v Speaker 6>know what the movies and the some of the and

816
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:01.039
<v Speaker 6>within the movies.

817
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:03.920
<v Speaker 5>Me we over here figuring it out later.

818
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:08.639
<v Speaker 4>Figure homeboy, Christopher Lloyd is already dead, all right.

819
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<v Speaker 3>Field of dreams, dude. Think about all of the guys

820
00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:16.199
<v Speaker 3>who came out of the corn field onto the field

821
00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:20.199
<v Speaker 3>from you know, the outfield. That's that's so field of

822
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:21.280
<v Speaker 3>dreams right there.

823
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:27.440
<v Speaker 1>As the children of the corn right the dude, ha ha, yeah.

824
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<v Speaker 7>So baseball is it's the American pastime. But it's the

825
00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:40.320
<v Speaker 7>American esoteric pastime certainly, right, and it even has the geometry.

826
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:43.440
<v Speaker 7>You could look at it symbolically as the ball being

827
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:47.400
<v Speaker 7>the point the line, excuse me, the bat being the line,

828
00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:50.280
<v Speaker 7>and you have the plane. And what do they call

829
00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:54.679
<v Speaker 7>where the pictures stand on headless the mountains?

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00:56:56.039 --> 00:56:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Where did they come from? It came from the Theosophists.

831
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<v Speaker 5>Mm hmmm, that's right, right, that's because the guy.

832
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:07.159
<v Speaker 7>The final version of it was basically developed from Theosophist

833
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:13.119
<v Speaker 7>crew and a president of the Theosophy at one time. Yes,

834
00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:16.039
<v Speaker 7>although it's much older than that, but not in its

835
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<v Speaker 7>current modification.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what they should bring back Roman gladiators

837
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:27.079
<v Speaker 4>but American gladiators with like real fucking blood sports like

838
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<v Speaker 4>the lie used to.

839
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:34.719
<v Speaker 7>Be a bit more like that, like that you'd get tackled.

840
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Like should be out of you with a bag.

841
00:57:40.440 --> 00:57:41.960
<v Speaker 4>They should do that.

842
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, right that you get people got like life,

843
00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:46.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean that life death death sentence.

844
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<v Speaker 1>Just tell there you go.

845
00:57:48.159 --> 00:57:51.239
<v Speaker 3>They called it based based ball for a reason.

846
00:57:54.519 --> 00:57:55.800
<v Speaker 4>I was a beggar bro.

847
00:57:57.159 --> 00:58:00.519
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, remember we got the compass and score right there,

848
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:05.440
<v Speaker 7>everyone can see right and and we remarked earlier, where

849
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:08.920
<v Speaker 7>is the origination of some of these symbols, like we

850
00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:13.599
<v Speaker 7>see them so widely used, right, like the Freemasons copped

851
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:14.880
<v Speaker 7>onto the compass and square.

852
00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:17.000
<v Speaker 5>Was it not used before them?

853
00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:21.840
<v Speaker 7>Certainly it was like no, no, no, megalithic site was

854
00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:24.199
<v Speaker 7>built without a compass and square.

855
00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:26.440
<v Speaker 5>Right, So we can we can move on.

856
00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:31.519
<v Speaker 7>But just a powerful anecdotal view of how they'll use

857
00:58:31.639 --> 00:58:38.239
<v Speaker 7>these ideas in an exoteric manner. Here is Pentanjolli, and

858
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:45.480
<v Speaker 7>Pentanjali is a Thoth entity from India, and that is

859
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:51.760
<v Speaker 7>noted to be the creator of yoga and specifically the

860
00:58:51.840 --> 00:58:57.639
<v Speaker 7>eight limbs of yoga. And she has a snake excuse me,

861
00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:01.400
<v Speaker 7>he has a snake body, and and I relate him

862
00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:06.039
<v Speaker 7>to to that both energy of the Great Teacher, mainly

863
00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:09.119
<v Speaker 7>because of actually the eight limbs of Yoga. Nick, we

864
00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:10.119
<v Speaker 7>can go to the next one.

865
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:14.760
<v Speaker 4>That's interesting, you uh kind of linked it to that,

866
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:18.639
<v Speaker 4>to that entity. I found him to be more similar

867
00:59:18.679 --> 00:59:22.800
<v Speaker 4>to Vishua Karma. But that's it. That's it.

868
00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:25.679
<v Speaker 5>I think. I think with.

869
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:32.719
<v Speaker 7>Especially the Hindu set of gods, the Hindu pantheon, which

870
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:37.039
<v Speaker 7>is so wide and diverse it's crazy. I think that

871
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:41.559
<v Speaker 7>there can be attributes of Thoth for instance, in many

872
00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:42.440
<v Speaker 7>different gods.

873
00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:43.400
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

874
00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:47.440
<v Speaker 7>In fact, Ganesha I believe has a lot of both

875
00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:48.280
<v Speaker 7>qualities too.

876
00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:50.639
<v Speaker 4>That's funny you said that because I had him down.

877
00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:52.880
<v Speaker 4>I have my little list, you know, I have him

878
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:55.719
<v Speaker 4>down right next to that other name. So now I'll

879
00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:57.239
<v Speaker 4>add you the name that you.

880
00:59:57.320 --> 01:00:01.719
<v Speaker 3>Just what about the terror? What about the tarot that

881
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:05.239
<v Speaker 3>looked like the universe card, you know, with the snake

882
01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:09.639
<v Speaker 3>around the outside of it, that had total Tarot vibes

883
01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:12.960
<v Speaker 3>for me, at least from the Crowley tarot. And that

884
01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:18.480
<v Speaker 3>whole idea goes back. What's that constellation with the guy

885
01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:26.199
<v Speaker 3>who's holding the snake? Ofiucus, right, Ofiucas is the thirteenth

886
01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:32.239
<v Speaker 3>constellation that goes along with a lunar calendar. So Ofiucas

887
01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:36.239
<v Speaker 3>is like the thirteenth moon or the thirteenth month, and

888
01:00:36.280 --> 01:00:38.280
<v Speaker 3>it's sort of like above all the rest of the

889
01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:42.199
<v Speaker 3>other constellations.

890
01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:45.880
<v Speaker 7>One thing I discovered about the tarot that I haven't

891
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:48.400
<v Speaker 7>seen others put forth, and I'm kind of surprised that

892
01:00:49.599 --> 01:00:54.159
<v Speaker 7>it hasn't been put forth before I noted it. But

893
01:00:54.199 --> 01:00:57.880
<v Speaker 7>there's the fourth suits of the tarot. Of course, there's many,

894
01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:01.239
<v Speaker 7>all these fours everywhere right, But the four suits of

895
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:07.639
<v Speaker 7>the tarot actually completely correspond with the four dimensions of geometry.

896
01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:12.119
<v Speaker 7>The point for the sword, the line for the staff,

897
01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:16.800
<v Speaker 7>the plane is the coin, and the volume is the cup.

898
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:18.360
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's literally a.

899
01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:25.000
<v Speaker 7>Sacred geometry divination school. So Petanjoli presented the a lens

900
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:29.719
<v Speaker 7>of yoga, which are a whole system of self development. Right,

901
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:36.039
<v Speaker 7>it's not necessarily limited to posture, but also self development

902
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:38.000
<v Speaker 7>in these ideations.

903
01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:41.280
<v Speaker 5>And the next one nick is.

904
01:01:42.239 --> 01:01:48.760
<v Speaker 7>The obduab and both is associated with well, there's the

905
01:01:48.840 --> 01:01:53.480
<v Speaker 7>eight again, but specifically with this eight, it's actually more

906
01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:58.639
<v Speaker 7>four pair, which little difference, right, But these are these

907
01:01:58.679 --> 01:02:05.599
<v Speaker 7>are four couples, right, for for complimentary husband and wife

908
01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:11.239
<v Speaker 7>type of couples. And these are the eight elements of

909
01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:18.840
<v Speaker 7>or the eight primary gods of ancient Egyptian cosmology, right,

910
01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:26.760
<v Speaker 7>And they are again the four pair ruled by Thoth

911
01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:33.159
<v Speaker 7>got renamed Hermes. Why because the town where Thoth was

912
01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:38.440
<v Speaker 7>mainly worshiped was also the town where these this ogdoad

913
01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:41.800
<v Speaker 7>which is also a Greek word. But and I believe

914
01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:48.840
<v Speaker 7>they're called the commnu, and so the town was the commnu. Uh,

915
01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:54.199
<v Speaker 7>forgive my poor pronunciation, but something something along this line

916
01:02:54.280 --> 01:03:00.280
<v Speaker 7>that was Both town basically got renamed to Hermopolis, Hermies

917
01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:07.679
<v Speaker 7>and Hermopolis. The modern modern Hermopolis was was both and

918
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:12.360
<v Speaker 7>Ogdad town basically or really eight town is what it

919
01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:19.480
<v Speaker 7>literally meant. The next one is an interesting and again

920
01:03:19.519 --> 01:03:21.760
<v Speaker 7>I think it's kind of like one of these teachings

921
01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:28.000
<v Speaker 7>that bring together and highlight other teachings from different places.

922
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:33.360
<v Speaker 7>This is attributed the Fuzi And for those who don't Fuzzi,

923
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:37.880
<v Speaker 7>don't know Fuzi, just just just wait because I'm gonna

924
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:42.159
<v Speaker 7>enjoy this. But this is a really the from the

925
01:03:42.199 --> 01:03:50.639
<v Speaker 7>nothingness is the initial polarity. From that is the secondary polarity.

926
01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:51.519
<v Speaker 5>And then the eight.

927
01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:58.519
<v Speaker 7>Again, the Chinese system has the two, four and eight

928
01:03:59.039 --> 01:04:04.639
<v Speaker 7>uh idea to it too, the same with the Egyptian

929
01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:09.800
<v Speaker 7>construct is uh. You know, it's got its eight elements.

930
01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:14.880
<v Speaker 7>The Chinese divination system has the yin and yang and

931
01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:19.679
<v Speaker 7>secondarily after that the minor and major yin and yang,

932
01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:23.599
<v Speaker 7>and then the Bagua, which means the eight.

933
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:25.320
<v Speaker 5>And we can go to the next one.

934
01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Well with the Egyptian system, the Agdad. The Agdot is

935
01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:33.559
<v Speaker 3>a primordial group of gods, so they're like the Titans.

936
01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:38.400
<v Speaker 3>Versus the Olympus, which would be the next generation. So

937
01:04:38.599 --> 01:04:42.159
<v Speaker 3>there's there's kind of a crossover between this sort of

938
01:04:42.199 --> 01:04:46.599
<v Speaker 3>separation from heaven and Earth having to do with the

939
01:04:46.639 --> 01:04:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Agdat and also magic being chaos. For all of the

940
01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Middle Ages, magic was order, but once we got on

941
01:04:55.480 --> 01:04:59.639
<v Speaker 3>into the twentieth century with chaos magic, then magic became

942
01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:03.440
<v Speaker 3>chaos us again. So it almost represents like that shifting

943
01:05:03.559 --> 01:05:08.000
<v Speaker 3>back to a more primordial view of magic than what

944
01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:12.920
<v Speaker 3>was existing in the Victorian and Middle Ages era. It's

945
01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:13.760
<v Speaker 3>kind of interesting.

946
01:05:17.719 --> 01:05:22.039
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and it's amazing that they both that the Egyptians

947
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:29.199
<v Speaker 7>and the Chinese had this eight elemental primary aspect, right,

948
01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:32.440
<v Speaker 7>quite quite fascinating.

949
01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:38.199
<v Speaker 1>Okay, do you need me to move on?

950
01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:43.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, before we move off of Hermes, it's gonna say,

951
01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:45.079
<v Speaker 4>you see the same thing with the name her Mad

952
01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:49.119
<v Speaker 4>in Norse, I think Norse mythology, right, he was a

953
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:51.679
<v Speaker 4>messenger of the gods. I don't know if there's anything

954
01:05:51.719 --> 01:05:55.800
<v Speaker 4>with the with the number four there. Maybe you can

955
01:05:55.840 --> 01:06:02.840
<v Speaker 4>look at that later about that guy.

956
01:06:03.719 --> 01:06:10.079
<v Speaker 7>So this is the arc of Raw. They actually found

957
01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:13.599
<v Speaker 7>a boat at the base of the Great Pyramid, and

958
01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:18.800
<v Speaker 7>it is a replica of the boat that is supposed

959
01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:24.599
<v Speaker 7>to take one across the Nile from the land of

960
01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:29.840
<v Speaker 7>the living to the land of the dead. And again

961
01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:37.159
<v Speaker 7>we see one of the main characters of most well

962
01:06:37.239 --> 01:06:41.400
<v Speaker 7>known of the set of eight, because the Ogdawad, it's

963
01:06:41.480 --> 01:06:46.960
<v Speaker 7>really hard to find concrete information on them. But Noot

964
01:06:47.519 --> 01:06:52.639
<v Speaker 7>is the primordial waters, that's one of the better known ones,

965
01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:59.000
<v Speaker 7>and and we see her carrying the boat. Well, in

966
01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:02.519
<v Speaker 7>the biblical story of Noah, we have Noah and his

967
01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:07.159
<v Speaker 7>three sons and their wives, which is eight.

968
01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:08.199
<v Speaker 5>Again.

969
01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:10.360
<v Speaker 7>But we look if we look at the boat here,

970
01:07:11.239 --> 01:07:14.800
<v Speaker 7>if you kind of you can see clearly the seven.

971
01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:17.119
<v Speaker 7>The beetle, I think is more to do with ra

972
01:07:17.679 --> 01:07:21.199
<v Speaker 7>and the sun above more imposed there you see the

973
01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:24.159
<v Speaker 7>four in the front, the three in the back, and

974
01:07:24.199 --> 01:07:25.719
<v Speaker 7>then if you look really.

975
01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:27.800
<v Speaker 5>Subtly, there's a snake.

976
01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:32.840
<v Speaker 7>In the boat too, there behind the behind the third

977
01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:35.639
<v Speaker 7>there on the left, So there's actually eight.

978
01:07:35.679 --> 01:07:40.440
<v Speaker 4>There doesn't a scare a beetle like shed it shell.

979
01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:46.800
<v Speaker 7>It's it may what what it's most well known for

980
01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:54.119
<v Speaker 7>is rolling a ball of manure downhill, and it becomes

981
01:07:54.239 --> 01:07:59.679
<v Speaker 7>kind of this symbolism for the sun and immortality by

982
01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:02.679
<v Speaker 7>by way of what it's behavior.

983
01:08:04.679 --> 01:08:08.760
<v Speaker 4>Another with Osiris with all with all that symbolism as well.

984
01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:14.519
<v Speaker 7>And and Osirius is the agricultural reborn god, right, and

985
01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:19.760
<v Speaker 7>there's that rebirth right, I think in a lot I've

986
01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:23.000
<v Speaker 7>seen this in a lot of this is a cultural thing,

987
01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:29.199
<v Speaker 7>not necessarily philosophical, but it's interesting talk about exoteric perversions

988
01:08:29.279 --> 01:08:37.079
<v Speaker 7>of highly esoteric ideas. The zombie movies will inevitably have

989
01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:43.520
<v Speaker 7>some agricultural like swamp thing or this and that there's

990
01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:46.840
<v Speaker 7>and a ball rolling around. I've seen several times. If

991
01:08:46.880 --> 01:08:54.039
<v Speaker 7>you know Egyptian rebirth stories and you watch can be

992
01:08:54.159 --> 01:08:58.840
<v Speaker 7>like super cheesy zombie movies. They've actually integrated some of

993
01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:02.520
<v Speaker 7>the symbolism of that. It's entertaining interesting idea.

994
01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:06.079
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, Well, I just wanted to throw into it about Knutt.

995
01:09:06.520 --> 01:09:10.199
<v Speaker 3>She was supposed to be the night sky, right, and

996
01:09:10.279 --> 01:09:14.000
<v Speaker 3>so the night sky holding up this plane of heaven

997
01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:20.000
<v Speaker 3>almost implies that this is the solar system, right, with

998
01:09:20.119 --> 01:09:22.319
<v Speaker 3>the Sun at the middle of all the all of

999
01:09:22.359 --> 01:09:28.680
<v Speaker 3>these seven planets, right, You've got this sort of apep

1000
01:09:28.840 --> 01:09:35.640
<v Speaker 3>character which is a massive asteroid in our solar system

1001
01:09:35.680 --> 01:09:42.159
<v Speaker 3>as well, that also exists as a serpent of chaos.

1002
01:09:42.199 --> 01:09:44.880
<v Speaker 3>And so if you take this as a direct sort

1003
01:09:44.920 --> 01:09:47.680
<v Speaker 3>of metaphor for our solar system. You actually get a

1004
01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:50.039
<v Speaker 3>really good view of it. And if you think about it,

1005
01:09:50.119 --> 01:09:56.920
<v Speaker 3>the beetle could be considered Earth, right Hey, Earth is

1006
01:09:57.000 --> 01:09:59.640
<v Speaker 3>sort of enlivening the sun and making it move and

1007
01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:00.359
<v Speaker 3>everything else.

1008
01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:07.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I think you got something. There is so

1009
01:10:07.239 --> 01:10:11.479
<v Speaker 4>is apep the same snake at the bottom of Yigdrasil.

1010
01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:15.800
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of similarities and there are so many

1011
01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:17.119
<v Speaker 3>snakes if you go back to.

1012
01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:19.760
<v Speaker 4>Get Yeah, yeah, I figured he may have been, like,

1013
01:10:20.079 --> 01:10:20.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

1014
01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:25.680
<v Speaker 3>The orphic egg is surrounded by the snake and then

1015
01:10:25.680 --> 01:10:28.920
<v Speaker 3>he explodes and then everything comes out into form. That's

1016
01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:35.079
<v Speaker 3>the very first god protogonos, right, yeah, you.

1017
01:10:35.039 --> 01:10:40.479
<v Speaker 2>Know, I just would have and leave a rush. Crowley

1018
01:10:40.720 --> 01:10:43.199
<v Speaker 2>made that. He wrote that one, and that's like four

1019
01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:45.840
<v Speaker 2>different times of the day. You will, you'll do a

1020
01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:51.600
<v Speaker 2>prayer to the sun and the one that faces north,

1021
01:10:51.920 --> 01:10:53.399
<v Speaker 2>which would be which would be Earth?

1022
01:10:54.640 --> 01:10:58.880
<v Speaker 1>You do you got Kephra the beetle? Did you pray

1023
01:10:58.920 --> 01:10:59.079
<v Speaker 1>it to?

1024
01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:00.680
<v Speaker 8>So?

1025
01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Like you said, hedless, you know, even they could be

1026
01:11:02.680 --> 01:11:06.239
<v Speaker 2>associated with Earth. It's even kind of associated with Earth,

1027
01:11:06.359 --> 01:11:06.840
<v Speaker 2>right there.

1028
01:11:12.479 --> 01:11:13.159
<v Speaker 5>No, that's great.

1029
01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:18.159
<v Speaker 7>The set of the Adua the eight or four pairs

1030
01:11:18.199 --> 01:11:22.239
<v Speaker 7>of Egyptian primary gods. They are snake headed and toad headed.

1031
01:11:22.880 --> 01:11:27.119
<v Speaker 7>And if if we could imagine the Nile thousands of

1032
01:11:27.199 --> 01:11:31.479
<v Speaker 7>years ago, it was probably just a you know, so

1033
01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:38.199
<v Speaker 7>full of life becoming and going. So this this idea,

1034
01:11:38.199 --> 01:11:42.760
<v Speaker 7>I think comes from not that there were snake headed beings,

1035
01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:46.399
<v Speaker 7>that there were, that snakes and toads were in the

1036
01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:50.359
<v Speaker 7>creation of itself, the life dependency flow of the waters.

1037
01:11:50.479 --> 01:11:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1038
01:11:51.960 --> 01:11:55.520
<v Speaker 7>But here's here's another the next one, Nick, or.

1039
01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:56.920
<v Speaker 5>Have this and you wants to decent.

1040
01:11:57.840 --> 01:11:59.960
<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna say, maybe it goes back to

1041
01:12:00.119 --> 01:12:03.039
<v Speaker 3>the OM symbol. Right, So if you take the OM

1042
01:12:03.119 --> 01:12:07.800
<v Speaker 3>symbol as the symbolic cosmology that they're working off of,

1043
01:12:08.439 --> 01:12:11.840
<v Speaker 3>like these different levels of consciousness, then all of this

1044
01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:14.640
<v Speaker 3>kind of fits into that level as well. So like

1045
01:12:14.840 --> 01:12:20.720
<v Speaker 3>astral projection, you know, thinking about forms and meditation and

1046
01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:25.079
<v Speaker 3>separation from the senses, you kind of get these different

1047
01:12:25.079 --> 01:12:28.760
<v Speaker 3>images that are translated differently but on the same level

1048
01:12:28.960 --> 01:12:33.199
<v Speaker 3>in different languages. Right, they're interacting with the same kind

1049
01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:38.880
<v Speaker 3>of forms and translating it based off of the surrounding culture.

1050
01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:43.560
<v Speaker 7>And the It reminds me that the Hindus had the nagas,

1051
01:12:44.039 --> 01:12:52.119
<v Speaker 7>who are their ancient snake bodied reptilian teachers, right, and

1052
01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:55.039
<v Speaker 7>the next the next one is I.

1053
01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:59.920
<v Speaker 4>Think they're called the Nataru. I'm pretty sure and certain ya.

1054
01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:03.399
<v Speaker 4>I mean you see him in every culture almost.

1055
01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:08.720
<v Speaker 7>And and almost every esoteric cosmological thing, there's a there's

1056
01:13:08.760 --> 01:13:13.359
<v Speaker 7>a snake, sometimes taking taking knowledge, sometimes giving it.

1057
01:13:13.720 --> 01:13:16.159
<v Speaker 4>I did, I did want to point out this boat

1058
01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:19.720
<v Speaker 4>with the sun that the beetle is holding up looks

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01:13:20.079 --> 01:13:23.960
<v Speaker 4>just like the almost crescent moon thing at the top

1060
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:28.359
<v Speaker 4>of the ome with the sun above it as well. Mm. Yeah,

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01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:31.239
<v Speaker 4>especially when you go back on the left.

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01:13:31.319 --> 01:13:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Nick, Oh, you know it's interesting even that prairie I mentioned.

1063
01:13:34.760 --> 01:13:36.439
<v Speaker 2>You're praying to the barge in the sky.

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01:13:37.640 --> 01:13:41.880
<v Speaker 7>Oh, and of course the dot the circle right there,

1065
01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:47.239
<v Speaker 7>there's your there's your point related to the symbol.

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01:13:47.960 --> 01:13:50.279
<v Speaker 4>Nick, does that remind you of an eye in any way?

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01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:57.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh? I don't know this one. No. Never, that's the pilot.

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01:13:58.399 --> 01:14:02.199
<v Speaker 3>There is so much content just by using the om symbol,

1069
01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:06.520
<v Speaker 3>breaking it down into its symbolic meaning, and then looking

1070
01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:09.199
<v Speaker 3>at everything around it, because it's almost like that's the

1071
01:14:09.239 --> 01:14:12.239
<v Speaker 3>seed and all of this stuff is the folies that

1072
01:14:12.319 --> 01:14:13.079
<v Speaker 3>grew out of it.

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01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:21.199
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, fascinating.

1074
01:14:23.039 --> 01:14:29.039
<v Speaker 7>The way that the eaching goes is very much in

1075
01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:35.600
<v Speaker 7>like that yin Yang process that was just described. That

1076
01:14:36.079 --> 01:14:40.239
<v Speaker 7>there's the wouji, the nothingness, and then the main polarity,

1077
01:14:40.920 --> 01:14:43.079
<v Speaker 7>and so on and so forth until they get to

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01:14:43.119 --> 01:14:47.239
<v Speaker 7>the eight elements, and the eight elements are multiplied eight

1079
01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:53.560
<v Speaker 7>times eight, and then you have your sixty four divination

1080
01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:58.399
<v Speaker 7>types of the each in right, which is really interesting.

1081
01:14:58.479 --> 01:14:59.239
<v Speaker 5>Here we have.

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01:15:01.239 --> 01:15:06.199
<v Speaker 7>Fuzi and his counterpart nw Wa, talk about sixty four.

1083
01:15:06.319 --> 01:15:09.760
<v Speaker 7>If you see these circles here, both of them have

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01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:14.159
<v Speaker 7>sixty four parts. This is from about seven hundred a

1085
01:15:14.359 --> 01:15:17.800
<v Speaker 7>d from the Tang dynasty. And look what they have

1086
01:15:17.920 --> 01:15:22.399
<v Speaker 7>in their hands, the compass and square. Remember this is

1087
01:15:22.399 --> 01:15:32.319
<v Speaker 7>from China. So we have this snake symbolism, their snake

1088
01:15:32.399 --> 01:15:38.399
<v Speaker 7>bodied symbolism, and the two counterparts. So new Wa rather

1089
01:15:38.520 --> 01:15:43.000
<v Speaker 7>Fuzi and his feminine counterpart new Wah are very much

1090
01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:50.119
<v Speaker 7>the folth energy of the Daoists. And there's various constellations

1091
01:15:50.239 --> 01:15:56.279
<v Speaker 7>on the side here. It's a very intricate image.

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01:15:56.760 --> 01:15:59.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, guys, it kind of feels Canaanite Phoenatian

1093
01:15:59.640 --> 01:15:59.800
<v Speaker 3>to me.

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01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:02.600
<v Speaker 5>It could be I don't know.

1095
01:16:02.920 --> 01:16:08.279
<v Speaker 7>I don't know exactly, you know where which came first,

1096
01:16:08.399 --> 01:16:10.119
<v Speaker 7>Right right along.

1097
01:16:09.880 --> 01:16:13.199
<v Speaker 3>That silk road. You've got these ideas starting to spread

1098
01:16:13.239 --> 01:16:17.319
<v Speaker 3>out from the Mesopotamian area. And now you're talking about

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01:16:17.319 --> 01:16:23.000
<v Speaker 3>these snake bodied people, which comes directly from Greek mythology.

1100
01:16:23.039 --> 01:16:25.640
<v Speaker 3>When you're talking about eric Tonius who was the first

1101
01:16:25.720 --> 01:16:30.439
<v Speaker 3>king of Athens, right, he had a snake body and

1102
01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:33.199
<v Speaker 3>all the rest of these snake bodied things come sort

1103
01:16:33.199 --> 01:16:36.560
<v Speaker 3>of through this Greco Roman influence. If you think about

1104
01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:40.640
<v Speaker 3>mythology as a way of like colonizing other people through ideas,

1105
01:16:41.279 --> 01:16:44.680
<v Speaker 3>you can kind of see how this religion thing works.

1106
01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:47.840
<v Speaker 3>It's like you provide a compelling image and then people

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01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:48.479
<v Speaker 3>come to you.

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01:16:50.039 --> 01:16:53.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like that snake bitch from fucking Golden Chong.

1109
01:16:56.039 --> 01:16:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Naugas Nagas are in that tradition as well. It's the

1110
01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:01.640
<v Speaker 3>pro to into European influence.

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01:17:06.279 --> 01:17:10.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's hard to say who influenced too because of

1112
01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:12.079
<v Speaker 5>the but you may be you may be right. I

1113
01:17:12.119 --> 01:17:14.279
<v Speaker 5>don't mean to refee you have this. I don't. I

1114
01:17:14.319 --> 01:17:15.359
<v Speaker 5>just don't know.

1115
01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:18.520
<v Speaker 2>It's even interesting with it too, though, you know how

1116
01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:22.119
<v Speaker 2>you would have like Hermes, you know, or well I

1117
01:17:22.159 --> 01:17:26.039
<v Speaker 2>would still associate to with mercury on the sphere with

1118
01:17:26.119 --> 01:17:27.760
<v Speaker 2>the eight you know, or with the on.

1119
01:17:27.720 --> 01:17:29.960
<v Speaker 1>The eighth sphere on the Tree of Life. You do

1120
01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:31.760
<v Speaker 1>get to hermaphrodite there as well.

1121
01:17:32.279 --> 01:17:34.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so like and I mean it I almost you know,

1122
01:17:34.279 --> 01:17:37.039
<v Speaker 2>in the DNA staff goes along with them, so I

1123
01:17:37.039 --> 01:17:43.560
<v Speaker 2>mean I even kind of see all lot here yep, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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01:17:44.600 --> 01:17:51.119
<v Speaker 7>There is in in their origination story. I would say

1125
01:17:51.119 --> 01:17:55.880
<v Speaker 7>that Fuzi is the third created. So there's so there's

1126
01:17:56.279 --> 01:17:58.720
<v Speaker 7>Pangu and and he gives birth.

1127
01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:00.279
<v Speaker 5>Pengu is the Earth.

1128
01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:05.000
<v Speaker 7>He dies and becomes the Earth, very similar to uh

1129
01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:08.800
<v Speaker 7>Odin's cosmology, I believe before before Odin.

1130
01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:11.840
<v Speaker 3>He's called the Chinese Prometheus.

1131
01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:17.720
<v Speaker 4>Wow, so he'd breathe, you know, like that bringer of knowledge.

1132
01:18:18.079 --> 01:18:21.600
<v Speaker 3>He erupts from from an egg and his backbone becomes

1133
01:18:21.720 --> 01:18:26.119
<v Speaker 3>these massive mountains. And Pangu also bears the torch that

1134
01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:30.800
<v Speaker 3>he gave to mankind, and so he's also a giant.

1135
01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:37.479
<v Speaker 3>And they called the Chinese Prometheus. Yeah, and we see

1136
01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:40.800
<v Speaker 3>that there's the compass in square.

1137
01:18:41.079 --> 01:18:43.920
<v Speaker 7>It's a bit more refined of of of a set

1138
01:18:43.960 --> 01:18:50.520
<v Speaker 7>of tools. Pegu had the hammer and chisel. So so

1139
01:18:50.640 --> 01:18:53.760
<v Speaker 7>that's the the starting point of obtaining things is the

1140
01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:54.199
<v Speaker 7>hammer and.

1141
01:18:54.239 --> 01:18:59.640
<v Speaker 3>Chisel and Beatheus was hammered to the Caucasus mountains.

1142
01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:00.680
<v Speaker 5>Wow.

1143
01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:07.119
<v Speaker 7>Uh and uh, so pengu gave birth. When he died,

1144
01:19:07.199 --> 01:19:11.239
<v Speaker 7>he became the earth, but he gave birth to the

1145
01:19:11.279 --> 01:19:15.439
<v Speaker 7>mother of Fuzi and Newah. So in a sense in

1146
01:19:15.479 --> 01:19:20.439
<v Speaker 7>that story, Fuzi is the third born, the thrice great

1147
01:19:20.760 --> 01:19:21.439
<v Speaker 7>thrice born.

1148
01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:25.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, so.

1149
01:19:28.840 --> 01:19:31.439
<v Speaker 7>I just wanted to say, yeah, it's really interesting that

1150
01:19:31.560 --> 01:19:36.479
<v Speaker 7>there's all these thoth like teacher like entities and the snake,

1151
01:19:37.199 --> 01:19:39.760
<v Speaker 7>the snake body and the sacred geometry.

1152
01:19:39.840 --> 01:19:41.840
<v Speaker 5>It's all it's all there.

1153
01:19:41.720 --> 01:19:46.600
<v Speaker 7>Right, so uh, to wrap things up, I wanted to

1154
01:19:46.720 --> 01:19:55.279
<v Speaker 7>go into Oedipus right and talk about Taro nick the

1155
01:19:55.279 --> 01:20:00.359
<v Speaker 7>the origination of Odipus as he's thrown out by his

1156
01:20:00.520 --> 01:20:04.880
<v Speaker 7>dad because he gets his dad gets the prophecy that

1157
01:20:04.960 --> 01:20:09.000
<v Speaker 7>his son is going to kill him, so he hangs

1158
01:20:09.079 --> 01:20:14.000
<v Speaker 7>him by his feet on a tree, and he's he's

1159
01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:20.399
<v Speaker 7>the hanged man from like infancy. So pretty pretty interesting

1160
01:20:20.640 --> 01:20:24.680
<v Speaker 7>symbolism there. And again you have a tree and and

1161
01:20:24.920 --> 01:20:33.359
<v Speaker 7>uh he's rescued by a farmer another another another king

1162
01:20:33.439 --> 01:20:39.640
<v Speaker 7>nearby anyway, and his whole life is kind of screwed up.

1163
01:20:39.720 --> 01:20:44.920
<v Speaker 7>But we accept the answer to him, or the answer

1164
01:20:44.960 --> 01:20:49.039
<v Speaker 7>of his to the riddle of the Sphinx, but he

1165
01:20:49.079 --> 01:20:50.319
<v Speaker 7>gets everything else wrong.

1166
01:20:51.199 --> 01:20:54.199
<v Speaker 3>That's the that's the one thing that he becomes a

1167
01:20:54.239 --> 01:20:56.920
<v Speaker 3>hero for is because of his answer to the riddle

1168
01:20:56.960 --> 01:21:00.279
<v Speaker 3>of this fate. And that's really revealing about this hanged

1169
01:21:00.359 --> 01:21:05.479
<v Speaker 3>man influence is because he's like the ultimate mortal character,

1170
01:21:05.800 --> 01:21:10.039
<v Speaker 3>the ultimate flawed or fallen character, all the rest of them.

1171
01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

1172
01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:17.159
<v Speaker 7>So the riddle of the Sphinx is from the play

1173
01:21:17.720 --> 01:21:21.800
<v Speaker 7>of Otipus Oedipus. However you say it the next one,

1174
01:21:21.880 --> 01:21:25.640
<v Speaker 7>nick I got the riddle there that everyone can read.

1175
01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:30.479
<v Speaker 7>What walks on four legs in the morning, two legs

1176
01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:35.079
<v Speaker 7>at noon, and three legs in the evening. Most people

1177
01:21:35.199 --> 01:21:40.479
<v Speaker 7>know that the answer is man or humans rather to

1178
01:21:40.600 --> 01:21:48.199
<v Speaker 7>be more politically correct, the staff of old age being

1179
01:21:48.279 --> 01:21:50.880
<v Speaker 7>the third leg in the evening. But here we see

1180
01:21:50.920 --> 01:21:56.720
<v Speaker 7>Otopus and he's got a staff, and I would say

1181
01:21:56.800 --> 01:22:04.239
<v Speaker 7>that the answer actually is the Master, the thrice Great

1182
01:22:05.840 --> 01:22:09.359
<v Speaker 7>walks on three legs, right, And and we see here

1183
01:22:09.399 --> 01:22:16.239
<v Speaker 7>otis himself himself as the staff there. And there's a

1184
01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:20.560
<v Speaker 7>second in this play again we're talking about when when

1185
01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:26.159
<v Speaker 7>Otopus goes to defeat the Sphinx. I believe he was

1186
01:22:26.560 --> 01:22:29.279
<v Speaker 7>even in the play was in Egypt, but I'm not

1187
01:22:29.319 --> 01:22:31.439
<v Speaker 7>one hundred percent sure he might have been elsewhere. But

1188
01:22:31.920 --> 01:22:39.760
<v Speaker 7>the Sphinx and Cherubim widely celebrated symbol of you know,

1189
01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:45.079
<v Speaker 7>a coming to get you character. There's known to be

1190
01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:50.760
<v Speaker 7>a second riddle of the Sphinx and a little bit

1191
01:22:50.840 --> 01:22:54.960
<v Speaker 7>lesser known. So I would just say that that with that,

1192
01:22:55.359 --> 01:22:57.520
<v Speaker 7>it's not the old person, it's.

1193
01:22:57.399 --> 01:22:58.199
<v Speaker 5>The master.

1194
01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:10.359
<v Speaker 3>Forehead two d that yeah, tetramorph tetramorphalypse, right, got a

1195
01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:10.680
<v Speaker 3>lot of.

1196
01:23:10.680 --> 01:23:17.479
<v Speaker 7>Stuff, and four is a super powerful number in all

1197
01:23:17.520 --> 01:23:22.880
<v Speaker 7>of Asian countries. Sometimes it's auspicious and lucky. Other times

1198
01:23:22.960 --> 01:23:26.760
<v Speaker 7>it's not even on the elevator buttons right, like the

1199
01:23:26.960 --> 01:23:30.800
<v Speaker 7>like flour thirteen in the West. And sometimes they won't

1200
01:23:30.800 --> 01:23:34.359
<v Speaker 7>have thirteen either. No four, no thirteen a negative one

1201
01:23:34.479 --> 01:23:40.399
<v Speaker 7>and then they start. So the next one is the

1202
01:23:40.439 --> 01:23:47.520
<v Speaker 7>second riddle of the Sphinx, and it just beckons the

1203
01:23:47.640 --> 01:23:52.279
<v Speaker 7>yin yang concept. Right, there are two sisters. One gives

1204
01:23:52.319 --> 01:23:56.439
<v Speaker 7>birth to the other and she in turn gives birth

1205
01:23:56.520 --> 01:23:57.920
<v Speaker 7>to the first.

1206
01:23:58.479 --> 01:23:59.840
<v Speaker 5>Who are the two sisters?

1207
01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:03.319
<v Speaker 7>And I mean it's just just in that collaboration it

1208
01:24:03.520 --> 01:24:06.600
<v Speaker 7>just you see the yin and yang. The answer is

1209
01:24:06.600 --> 01:24:12.600
<v Speaker 7>is day and night right, And day and night also

1210
01:24:13.079 --> 01:24:19.520
<v Speaker 7>has a or rather one day has four aspects, just

1211
01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:23.720
<v Speaker 7>like a year. There's day and night in the first polarity,

1212
01:24:24.279 --> 01:24:28.880
<v Speaker 7>and there's dawn and dusk in in the second polarity.

1213
01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:37.399
<v Speaker 7>So and now I'm gonna get into something that I

1214
01:24:37.439 --> 01:24:42.359
<v Speaker 7>have not studied entirely. But it is so profound in

1215
01:24:42.439 --> 01:24:49.720
<v Speaker 7>bringing together these four aspects and lessons of four that

1216
01:24:51.119 --> 01:24:55.439
<v Speaker 7>I think it's worth sharing it. And and Elephus Levie

1217
01:24:56.079 --> 01:25:01.880
<v Speaker 7>is uh a foundational occultists, and he came up with

1218
01:25:02.239 --> 01:25:09.399
<v Speaker 7>the idea about the powers of the sphinx. And so

1219
01:25:09.560 --> 01:25:14.079
<v Speaker 7>certainly the idea with the Egyptians was not getting old

1220
01:25:14.119 --> 01:25:19.479
<v Speaker 7>and carrying a staff. It was being immortal and holding

1221
01:25:19.680 --> 01:25:23.680
<v Speaker 7>a branch of the tree of life. And that's really

1222
01:25:23.720 --> 01:25:27.600
<v Speaker 7>what the staff symbolizes. It's not your you're old, you

1223
01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:31.119
<v Speaker 7>need a stick. No, it's the reason why the kings

1224
01:25:31.319 --> 01:25:36.119
<v Speaker 7>and the priests and the philosophers, Moses to Tahoudi to whoever,

1225
01:25:36.600 --> 01:25:40.199
<v Speaker 7>they all had a staff because it is the branch

1226
01:25:40.359 --> 01:25:41.680
<v Speaker 7>of the tree of life.

1227
01:25:41.680 --> 01:25:44.840
<v Speaker 5>That they get to hold. Because they're empowered individuals.

1228
01:25:45.520 --> 01:25:50.760
<v Speaker 7>So here's a set of the four idea related to

1229
01:25:50.840 --> 01:25:55.840
<v Speaker 7>these four aspects of the sphinx, which is nick. You

1230
01:25:55.920 --> 01:25:58.840
<v Speaker 7>might have heard of these in Thalima. I heard that

1231
01:25:58.920 --> 01:26:01.119
<v Speaker 7>this is like a Thalamic things.

1232
01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I mean it kind of looks like.

1233
01:26:06.720 --> 01:26:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it also kind of goes along with

1234
01:26:09.600 --> 01:26:11.600
<v Speaker 2>the will to keep silent.

1235
01:26:12.520 --> 01:26:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Kind of goes along with ter.

1236
01:26:15.279 --> 01:26:18.039
<v Speaker 5>Right, right, it's all right there, Uh.

1237
01:26:18.439 --> 01:26:22.039
<v Speaker 7>I think that the first polarity there to know and

1238
01:26:22.119 --> 01:26:26.800
<v Speaker 7>to will. I saw this meme the other day, like

1239
01:26:27.199 --> 01:26:30.800
<v Speaker 7>people would rather argue about Crowley than learn about him. Ye,

1240
01:26:32.960 --> 01:26:37.520
<v Speaker 7>people would rather say the expression do as thatout will

1241
01:26:38.119 --> 01:26:44.279
<v Speaker 7>without even knowing anything. You have to know first, otherwise

1242
01:26:44.960 --> 01:26:48.880
<v Speaker 7>it'll be horrible if you enact your will and you're

1243
01:26:48.920 --> 01:26:54.640
<v Speaker 7>an ignorant, materialistic hollow you know, dunt the dunt like

1244
01:26:54.680 --> 01:26:58.760
<v Speaker 7>we see so many today. That's no good. The first

1245
01:26:58.880 --> 01:27:04.359
<v Speaker 7>aspect to do that will is to know. So Elvis

1246
01:27:04.439 --> 01:27:08.239
<v Speaker 7>Levi came up with this idea illustrated in the next one.

1247
01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:16.039
<v Speaker 7>All right, or or maybe maybe the next one or

1248
01:27:16.279 --> 01:27:17.680
<v Speaker 7>I forget where I'm at, but.

1249
01:27:17.720 --> 01:27:19.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, here here, here, it is right.

1250
01:27:20.159 --> 01:27:24.880
<v Speaker 7>Everything is possible to him who wills only what is true.

1251
01:27:25.399 --> 01:27:30.520
<v Speaker 7>Rest in Nature study know then dare dare to will

1252
01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:36.800
<v Speaker 7>dare to act and be silent. And there's that fourth

1253
01:27:36.840 --> 01:27:43.359
<v Speaker 7>aspect of silence again, and and it's it's very much

1254
01:27:43.439 --> 01:27:47.720
<v Speaker 7>like you don't want to be braggadocio. Also, you don't

1255
01:27:47.760 --> 01:27:51.479
<v Speaker 7>necessarily want to let people know your practice because they

1256
01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:54.039
<v Speaker 7>want they might want to chop it down. You know,

1257
01:27:54.840 --> 01:27:57.239
<v Speaker 7>if you don't let people know that you're you're not

1258
01:27:57.239 --> 01:28:01.000
<v Speaker 7>doing things harm harmful. I'm not saying to be clandestine

1259
01:28:01.119 --> 01:28:05.720
<v Speaker 7>and sneaky, just saying like sometimes you know, silence is

1260
01:28:06.600 --> 01:28:11.079
<v Speaker 7>just it's not sneaky, it's just showing by doing.

1261
01:28:12.880 --> 01:28:17.680
<v Speaker 3>And were big time into the espionage racket.

1262
01:28:18.560 --> 01:28:22.760
<v Speaker 7>That's true too. There's there's the exoteric interpretation of these

1263
01:28:22.960 --> 01:28:26.560
<v Speaker 7>esoteric ideas. Good point as absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, yeah, Crowley was my six agent, was he not?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he was? And I five, I definitely think

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<v Speaker 1>he was intelligence.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, whatever kind of intelligence I mean I think.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean the same thing with fucking uh what's his name?

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<v Speaker 4>Quino d John d Right, he was the original seven

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<v Speaker 4>below seven Yeah, man, yeah, sucking each other out.

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<v Speaker 3>Dou below seven is two bolcane.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, every day, thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>Heavin to look at the.

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<v Speaker 7>So the next one is just another elaboration of this

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<v Speaker 7>UH four mode of magic. If you will that Elphus

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<v Speaker 7>Levi put forth. To learn how to will is to

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<v Speaker 7>learn how to exercise dominion. But but not this, what's

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<v Speaker 7>the true power dominion of self?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 7>But but that that could be interpreted different ways, and

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01:29:46.760 --> 01:29:48.520
<v Speaker 7>and you know, exerted different ways.

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<v Speaker 5>But to be able to exert.

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01:29:50.960 --> 01:29:56.119
<v Speaker 7>Will power you must first know. For will power applied

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<v Speaker 7>to folly is madness.

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<v Speaker 5>Death and hell.

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<v Speaker 7>So there it is, right the whole what Crowley is

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<v Speaker 7>best known for. Do as that will, and people will

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01:30:06.840 --> 01:30:09.720
<v Speaker 7>just say that like that gives them some kind.

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<v Speaker 5>Of right to do as that will.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you gotta know first, You must know first. So

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<v Speaker 7>the next one I wanted to point out Nick, this

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<v Speaker 7>is the eye of Horus, and it goes along with

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<v Speaker 7>the eaching process. Right, it's got up to the one

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01:30:35.520 --> 01:30:39.920
<v Speaker 7>sixty four. It goes the other way, right, the eaching

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01:30:40.039 --> 01:30:44.399
<v Speaker 7>goes to sixty fourth parts. This goes to one sixty fourth.

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<v Speaker 7>And this is heckat in an exoteric understanding. It is

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<v Speaker 7>a measurement system of grain in ancient Egypt. And this

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<v Speaker 7>was by these fractions. Is how they you know, measure

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<v Speaker 7>their grain and also, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to say this in there real quick,

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<v Speaker 2>if you really think about it, your your the accordia

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01:31:07.319 --> 01:31:12.640
<v Speaker 2>is basically like almost like grainy, Like it's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, And I was going to say brain and grain, right,

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01:31:15.560 --> 01:31:19.039
<v Speaker 7>because this it's the way to measure the grain, and

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01:31:19.079 --> 01:31:23.680
<v Speaker 7>it's also the way to measure the brain, uh as

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01:31:23.720 --> 01:31:28.840
<v Speaker 7>as they do here, the smell being one half of

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<v Speaker 7>the immediate perception value, as they put forth, which which

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<v Speaker 7>I think we unknowingly like pheromones and so forth. These

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01:31:38.600 --> 01:31:43.359
<v Speaker 7>are really influential things going on and we don't even

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01:31:43.840 --> 01:31:48.439
<v Speaker 7>really know, you know, that we're smelling them sometimes it's

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01:31:48.479 --> 01:31:50.760
<v Speaker 7>not like a conscious smell.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a weird evolutionary thought real quick, what if

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<v Speaker 3>how we see the world influences how our brains are

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<v Speaker 3>sh aped, so different species of animals see the world differently,

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<v Speaker 3>and in doing so, it's influencing the shape of the

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<v Speaker 3>brain instead of vice versa.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, And even if you were to be a like

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01:32:17.640 --> 01:32:21.279
<v Speaker 7>a feral human and you end up with dogs, your

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01:32:21.399 --> 01:32:25.159
<v Speaker 7>sense of smell is going to be dumb heightened just

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<v Speaker 7>because you're watching them doing it and you start doing it,

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01:32:28.800 --> 01:32:31.439
<v Speaker 7>You're you're just activating by practicing.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, So I think if.

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<v Speaker 3>Evolution requires a shifting of consciousness, sure, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't think it's a what if. I think it is

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<v Speaker 7>what is right?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 7>That was now I was done with the images, Nick,

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<v Speaker 7>but the four it just is a base way to

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01:32:54.279 --> 01:32:58.920
<v Speaker 7>perceive things and also a base way to develop.

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<v Speaker 1>And Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>One thing I forgot to mention is that the yin

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<v Speaker 7>yang symbol is actually the taiji and it means the

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01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:12.239
<v Speaker 7>grand ultimate polarity. And so when people practice what we

1335
01:33:12.279 --> 01:33:17.079
<v Speaker 7>say tai chi, it's not tai chi, it's taiji. So

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01:33:17.279 --> 01:33:20.840
<v Speaker 7>they're practicing this self development system.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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01:33:21.560 --> 01:33:26.039
<v Speaker 7>So that's just another exoteric and esoteric relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you know what I wanted to pull up before?

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<v Speaker 1>Damn it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I let me see if I have it

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01:33:37.680 --> 01:33:40.840
<v Speaker 2>just before when we talk about four's and like hates

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01:33:40.920 --> 01:33:45.039
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, and again there's these these two planetary sigils

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01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:47.359
<v Speaker 2>have to do with the mercury and Jupiter, I mean

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01:33:47.680 --> 01:33:50.880
<v Speaker 2>in Jupiter would be considered a higher arc of mercury anyway,

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01:33:51.199 --> 01:33:51.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of.

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01:33:53.079 --> 01:33:53.439
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And you even have like the whole four you don't

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01:33:56.920 --> 01:34:05.039
<v Speaker 2>go up before again that is for Jupiter and I

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01:34:05.079 --> 01:34:07.399
<v Speaker 2>kind of just looked like even other ship you saw before.

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01:34:08.279 --> 01:34:09.399
<v Speaker 1>And then I do have.

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01:34:12.640 --> 01:34:15.479
<v Speaker 3>Harmonies was the Angel of Zeus or Jupiter?

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01:34:17.840 --> 01:34:22.520
<v Speaker 2>And then uh, this one is interesting, the one for Mercury,

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01:34:22.840 --> 01:34:26.399
<v Speaker 2>which would go with the eighth sphere. You do have

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<v Speaker 2>like a bunch of like four again four squares, four circles.

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01:34:31.479 --> 01:34:33.880
<v Speaker 2>That was seeing the four repeated.

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<v Speaker 5>Still yeah, it's deep symbol.

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01:34:44.199 --> 01:34:49.039
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, man, I learned something new every time I

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01:34:49.119 --> 01:34:51.319
<v Speaker 4>come on this show, So that's great.

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01:34:52.399 --> 01:34:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Normally I do too great information, Ethan, that was great.

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01:34:57.760 --> 01:35:00.880
<v Speaker 1>That was uh yeah, I gotta.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks for thanks for listening to everyone. Yeah, yeah, it's uh.

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<v Speaker 7>I think the fourth Initiation really has some inspirational ideas

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01:35:11.199 --> 01:35:16.199
<v Speaker 7>and insights towards self development on our own, not necessarily

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01:35:16.960 --> 01:35:20.439
<v Speaker 7>without the guides. It's not saying to remove anything you

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01:35:20.520 --> 01:35:22.960
<v Speaker 7>might have learned before, but it's more just kind of

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01:35:22.960 --> 01:35:26.640
<v Speaker 7>empowering for our own individuation.

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<v Speaker 3>Fourth dimensional thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, anybody have any questions anything?

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01:35:37.560 --> 01:35:39.199
<v Speaker 6>I was just gonna say, I ain't get to get

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01:35:39.199 --> 01:35:42.039
<v Speaker 6>to none of my times. Man, you're lucky, wrong and.

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01:35:42.039 --> 01:35:43.479
<v Speaker 5>We don't have to have that discussion.

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01:35:43.760 --> 01:35:47.039
<v Speaker 1>No, do you have any Yeah, it was anything? Was

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01:35:47.079 --> 01:35:48.920
<v Speaker 1>anything that you kind of wanted to ask to bring up.

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01:35:49.359 --> 01:35:53.279
<v Speaker 6>It's not any things specific that I can ask. I

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01:35:53.359 --> 01:35:54.720
<v Speaker 6>just had, you know, I just like some of the

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01:35:54.720 --> 01:35:56.840
<v Speaker 6>stuff that he talked about. You know, you know, the

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01:35:56.880 --> 01:35:59.520
<v Speaker 6>four meaning complete and stuff like that plays a lot

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01:35:59.520 --> 01:36:03.600
<v Speaker 6>of parts in Masonic rituals and ceremonies and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I appreciate it. I'm going to get more books.

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01:36:06.800 --> 01:36:08.520
<v Speaker 5>I've already read two of his books already.

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01:36:08.560 --> 01:36:11.680
<v Speaker 6>So and he said the fourth Initiation is the fourth one,

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01:36:11.680 --> 01:36:13.800
<v Speaker 6>of course, and uh there's other ones, so I have

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01:36:13.840 --> 01:36:16.279
<v Speaker 6>to go back and get the other ones, read those,

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01:36:16.640 --> 01:36:18.680
<v Speaker 6>then come back to this one and read this again

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01:36:18.840 --> 01:36:21.960
<v Speaker 6>just to get more of a basic understanding.

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01:36:22.039 --> 01:36:24.319
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I enjoyed the enjoy his work. I mean

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01:36:24.319 --> 01:36:25.720
<v Speaker 5>I've read his books like that.

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01:36:25.760 --> 01:36:27.600
<v Speaker 6>As soon as he sent them to me or told

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01:36:27.640 --> 01:36:30.279
<v Speaker 6>me they were on Amazon, Kendle, I was like.

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01:36:30.199 --> 01:36:31.479
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, let me go get there. And I already

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01:36:31.479 --> 01:36:32.319
<v Speaker 5>have another one on there.

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01:36:32.319 --> 01:36:33.920
<v Speaker 6>I just got It's gonna be about another two or

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01:36:33.960 --> 01:36:36.159
<v Speaker 6>three weeks before I read them. So yeah, anybody that's

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01:36:36.199 --> 01:36:41.199
<v Speaker 6>interested in you know, either in meditation or numeraal numbers

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01:36:41.319 --> 01:36:44.439
<v Speaker 6>or numbers in period and understanding, you know, the consciousness

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01:36:44.479 --> 01:36:45.600
<v Speaker 6>and the person within you.

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<v Speaker 5>I guarantee you you learn a lot from reading these books.

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01:36:48.680 --> 01:36:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Thanks, thank you.

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01:36:52.159 --> 01:36:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Definitely hell Us of Jules, did you uh want to

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01:36:56.600 --> 01:36:58.119
<v Speaker 2>ask her anything.

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01:36:57.760 --> 01:37:01.399
<v Speaker 3>Or what I was I was gonna say, we were

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01:37:01.439 --> 01:37:07.520
<v Speaker 3>looking into uh Lithuanian paganism because uh Lithuanian and so

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01:37:08.239 --> 01:37:12.479
<v Speaker 3>uh there's this one symbol of Remova which is like

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01:37:12.520 --> 01:37:18.039
<v Speaker 3>the pagan h equivalent of their native religion, right and

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01:37:18.159 --> 01:37:21.680
<v Speaker 3>uh it has four snakes on the on the seal,

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01:37:21.720 --> 01:37:24.840
<v Speaker 3>and it's like that's perfect, Like you're all about the

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01:37:24.920 --> 01:37:26.960
<v Speaker 3>four and there's the four right there.

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01:37:27.439 --> 01:37:30.119
<v Speaker 5>So I thought that was kind of interesting, not as

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01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:30.920
<v Speaker 5>bad as symbol.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, And it's really knowing the four aspects of things

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01:37:39.439 --> 01:37:42.960
<v Speaker 7>or even imagining that it might be there. When I

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01:37:43.119 --> 01:37:49.319
<v Speaker 7>look at symbols, and when I'm looking at even symbological stories,

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01:37:50.479 --> 01:37:55.520
<v Speaker 7>I find it really helps to decipher things, like with

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01:37:55.680 --> 01:38:00.760
<v Speaker 7>the three two two idea, not necessarily verified, not necessarily

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01:38:01.159 --> 01:38:03.079
<v Speaker 7>entirely the truth, it's a possibility.

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01:38:03.840 --> 01:38:08.800
<v Speaker 5>And also with the uh the riddle of the Sphinx.

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01:38:09.079 --> 01:38:12.279
<v Speaker 7>It may not be that what I'm saying that there

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01:38:12.319 --> 01:38:15.720
<v Speaker 7>is a fourth aspect, but but as soon as I

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01:38:15.760 --> 01:38:20.199
<v Speaker 7>saw that there's the threefold idea. It just kind of

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01:38:20.239 --> 01:38:22.319
<v Speaker 7>made me think, well, we're there's a there's a fourth

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01:38:22.359 --> 01:38:27.279
<v Speaker 7>answer here, So I think it does help interpret different

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01:38:27.479 --> 01:38:29.359
<v Speaker 7>different things.

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01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Definitely, Oh, Ethan, thank you very much.

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01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:34.119
<v Speaker 8>Man.

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01:38:34.159 --> 01:38:36.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm really really happy you came back on it. Tod.

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01:38:36.399 --> 01:38:41.119
<v Speaker 2>That definitely definitely, definitely definitely ten times better than last time.

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01:38:41.119 --> 01:38:44.640
<v Speaker 1>That's because there was other people here, so oh yeah, man,

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01:38:44.680 --> 01:38:45.680
<v Speaker 1>thank you. I appreciate that.

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01:38:46.760 --> 01:38:48.199
<v Speaker 5>I appreciate you so much.

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01:38:48.880 --> 01:38:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, uh yes, I guess we could just wrap

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01:38:52.600 --> 01:38:55.960
<v Speaker 2>it up then, well let everybody like this shows and

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01:38:55.960 --> 01:38:57.039
<v Speaker 2>promote this stuff again.

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01:38:57.920 --> 01:38:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Headless, what is going on over there? Man?

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01:39:01.479 --> 01:39:04.039
<v Speaker 3>That was a great episode. It felt like a whole

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01:39:04.079 --> 01:39:06.760
<v Speaker 3>initiation all on its own. So thank you so much.

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01:39:06.800 --> 01:39:07.159
<v Speaker 5>Ethan.

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01:39:09.319 --> 01:39:14.520
<v Speaker 3>You can email me your occult stories at the Headless

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01:39:14.560 --> 01:39:17.760
<v Speaker 3>giinat gmail dot com and we will read those on Thursdays,

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01:39:17.760 --> 01:39:19.039
<v Speaker 3>so check it out. Thank you.

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01:39:19.800 --> 01:39:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Jules.

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<v Speaker 4>Nick again, thanks for having me on. Great presentation. Like

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01:39:28.800 --> 01:39:30.479
<v Speaker 4>I said, I'm going to have to try to remember

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01:39:30.479 --> 01:39:34.640
<v Speaker 4>to get your book sooner than later, Headless Tyrone. It's

1446
01:39:34.680 --> 01:39:38.920
<v Speaker 4>always good hanging out with you guys, hearing what you'all

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01:39:38.960 --> 01:39:41.359
<v Speaker 4>have to say. These shows are a lot of fun.

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01:39:41.479 --> 01:39:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Guys.

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<v Speaker 4>You can find me on Twitter, Great pield Pod, Instagram,

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01:39:45.760 --> 01:39:50.039
<v Speaker 4>Great Pueld Underscore Podcast. I'm on Rumble, YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts,

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01:39:50.039 --> 01:39:54.359
<v Speaker 4>all that good stuff. I'm on Locals and Patreon because

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01:39:54.399 --> 01:39:58.760
<v Speaker 4>some people don't like Patreon or their band from Patreon

1453
01:39:58.880 --> 01:40:01.960
<v Speaker 4>or whatever, So you can support me on Locals and

1454
01:40:02.039 --> 01:40:05.279
<v Speaker 4>I post all the streams over there. You get basically

1455
01:40:05.800 --> 01:40:09.600
<v Speaker 4>like your own show on Patreon. There's it's all Patreon

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01:40:09.760 --> 01:40:16.520
<v Speaker 4>exclusive content. That's so terry book review. We do watch parties.

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01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:18.119
<v Speaker 4>We do a lot of cool stuff. I might start

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01:40:18.159 --> 01:40:20.760
<v Speaker 4>having guests on Patreon shows and doing them on there

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01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:23.159
<v Speaker 4>a couple of weeks before I drop them. We do

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01:40:23.239 --> 01:40:27.039
<v Speaker 4>the elohem etymologies on there before we drop them. So yeah,

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01:40:27.720 --> 01:40:30.600
<v Speaker 4>go check me out there. Patreon dot com, slash Grateful

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01:40:30.640 --> 01:40:38.079
<v Speaker 4>podcast and uh yeah, Sunday Chaos This Sunday Night, our

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01:40:38.359 --> 01:40:43.800
<v Speaker 4>degenerate show that we do, new show or whatever it is.

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01:40:43.880 --> 01:40:46.359
<v Speaker 4>We just me and the boys get together, hang out, y'all.

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01:40:47.000 --> 01:40:48.800
<v Speaker 3>You take it over the Tower Gang slot.

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01:40:49.359 --> 01:40:55.439
<v Speaker 4>Well yeah, it's the t MO Tower Gang. Yeah, Tunnel Gang.

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01:40:57.319 --> 01:41:01.119
<v Speaker 4>But we're not Jews. Sorry, sorry, that's a bad joke.

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<v Speaker 4>Get wait anyway, but yeah, y'all check us out tomorrow.

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01:41:08.319 --> 01:41:10.479
<v Speaker 4>I guess we'll be doing we we got a couple

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01:41:10.479 --> 01:41:12.560
<v Speaker 4>of shows tomorrow, right, you'll you'll see me on one

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01:41:12.600 --> 01:41:12.880
<v Speaker 4>of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, y on.

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<v Speaker 4>The later show perhaps.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, depending on it if you can, man, Yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is great and uh, I appreciate you making

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01:41:23.840 --> 01:41:25.359
<v Speaker 4>me a part of this, Nick Hell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course definitely show and uh oh before we

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01:41:30.720 --> 01:41:33.840
<v Speaker 2>get to uh Tyrone and Ethan to let them plug

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01:41:33.880 --> 01:41:35.840
<v Speaker 2>the plug the stuff, I do want to jump in

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01:41:36.039 --> 01:41:37.319
<v Speaker 2>because people.

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01:41:37.039 --> 01:41:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Are player starting to like shut it off regardless, but

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot to mention it in the beginning.

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01:41:42.479 --> 01:41:45.520
<v Speaker 2>There is events uh that the cult regions will have

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01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:48.720
<v Speaker 2>boots at uh Tyrone and myself will be at a

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01:41:48.720 --> 01:41:49.239
<v Speaker 2>bunch of them.

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01:41:49.560 --> 01:41:51.079
<v Speaker 1>Tyrone will be out a bunch of them with me

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01:41:52.680 --> 01:41:54.159
<v Speaker 1>and then maybe maybe even other people.

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01:41:55.079 --> 01:41:57.760
<v Speaker 2>But I did want to plug some of the dates

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<v Speaker 2>and at least like where they're supposed to be at,

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<v Speaker 2>So September twenty sixth to twenty seventh in mount Airy, Georgia.

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01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>October fourth, uh, Franklin, North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like a big Foot thing that those both there Bigfoot,

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01:42:09.520 --> 01:42:12.600
<v Speaker 2>but they'll have the like weird other weird stuff there.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there's Charlie's Beyond Believe October eighteenth, and Brook from

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01:42:18.399 --> 01:42:21.039
<v Speaker 2>uh the cole Rejects but Dark Florida Park podcast. She

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<v Speaker 2>is actually speaking at the event, and she's got a

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01:42:24.159 --> 01:42:27.680
<v Speaker 2>booth next to us. We grabbed the booth number thirty

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<v Speaker 2>three and she got booth thirty two. Fuck it, it's

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<v Speaker 2>time may Soundic Lodge. You gotta do it right.

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01:42:33.680 --> 01:42:36.439
<v Speaker 1>Check check that place out. Uh.

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01:42:36.560 --> 01:42:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Charlie's Beyond Belief and that would be in Fort Myers, Florida.

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01:42:40.520 --> 01:42:42.319
<v Speaker 2>So even if we want to come down and talk

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01:42:42.399 --> 01:42:44.439
<v Speaker 2>some shit and see if I want to catch some checks,

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01:42:44.600 --> 01:42:48.680
<v Speaker 2>you can come check me out down that October twenty fifth,

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01:42:48.800 --> 01:42:52.560
<v Speaker 2>twenty sixth. You were guy the UFO Comic Con in Greenville,

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01:42:52.640 --> 01:42:58.079
<v Speaker 2>South Carolina. Uh, November twenty second, UFO Comic Con, Moresville,

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01:42:58.199 --> 01:43:03.520
<v Speaker 2>North Carolina. And then December fifth and sixth some art

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01:43:03.520 --> 01:43:06.319
<v Speaker 2>thing with There will be authors, artists and filmmakers and

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01:43:06.399 --> 01:43:10.960
<v Speaker 2>weird stuff mount Airy, Georgia. So come check it out

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01:43:11.000 --> 01:43:14.439
<v Speaker 2>if you can. Most of those events too, are like

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01:43:14.600 --> 01:43:17.840
<v Speaker 2>ten dollars apiece. So even if you just want to

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01:43:17.880 --> 01:43:20.000
<v Speaker 2>like fucking if you're around in the area and just

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01:43:20.039 --> 01:43:22.880
<v Speaker 2>meet up with us and talk shit. Just ten bucks,

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01:43:23.079 --> 01:43:25.079
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, come hang out. We'll have a booth and

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01:43:25.159 --> 01:43:28.520
<v Speaker 2>we'll have some wild shit setup too as well. All right,

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01:43:28.600 --> 01:43:30.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm done talking, I'll shut up, Tyrone.

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01:43:30.960 --> 01:43:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, sir.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this was a good show.

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01:43:34.239 --> 01:43:37.000
<v Speaker 6>But you already know that Ethan, you bring great material

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01:43:37.079 --> 01:43:40.079
<v Speaker 6>whenever you speak so or write a book, So either

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01:43:40.119 --> 01:43:42.720
<v Speaker 6>way that goes, you know how that goes. Everything you

1523
01:43:42.720 --> 01:43:45.680
<v Speaker 6>can find on me is on my website, Rebirth at

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01:43:45.680 --> 01:43:48.119
<v Speaker 6>the word dot com. You can find my rumbo, my

1525
01:43:48.159 --> 01:43:52.159
<v Speaker 6>Twitter accounts, my Facebook accounts, my LinkedIn and stuff like that.

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01:43:52.319 --> 01:43:55.279
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, just be on the lookout for my documentary.

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01:43:55.359 --> 01:43:57.880
<v Speaker 6>Well it's not so called like a documentary type what

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01:43:57.960 --> 01:44:00.960
<v Speaker 6>you see on television, but it's not gonna documentary of

1529
01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:03.520
<v Speaker 6>all the places that I'm visiting around the Americas and

1530
01:44:03.600 --> 01:44:05.399
<v Speaker 6>other places, so you get a more feel of it

1531
01:44:05.399 --> 01:44:06.319
<v Speaker 6>because a lot of people.

1532
01:44:06.159 --> 01:44:08.960
<v Speaker 5>Are going to AI and I'm trying to not do that.

1533
01:44:09.039 --> 01:44:11.720
<v Speaker 5>I want to bring real, authentic material to the people.

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01:44:11.840 --> 01:44:13.199
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, check that out.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, thank you very much, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>And last but not least, the guests of the hour

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01:44:19.920 --> 01:44:22.479
<v Speaker 2>and a half, almost two hours, e'sn in to go,

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01:44:22.680 --> 01:44:26.000
<v Speaker 2>thank you again very much, sir for coming on, and.

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<v Speaker 7>No, thank you Nick for putting together all the awesome

1540
01:44:28.560 --> 01:44:31.800
<v Speaker 7>shows Headless Jules Tyrone, I thank you so much for

1541
01:44:31.840 --> 01:44:35.439
<v Speaker 7>your friendship and support that that was really fun.

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01:44:37.239 --> 01:44:37.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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01:44:37.479 --> 01:44:43.760
<v Speaker 7>I'm on all the usual social media YouTube, Twitter, Facebook,

1544
01:44:43.800 --> 01:44:46.600
<v Speaker 7>and so on, and I can be found easily, and

1545
01:44:46.720 --> 01:44:49.399
<v Speaker 7>my book is on Amazon can be found easy to

1546
01:44:49.520 --> 01:44:53.279
<v Speaker 7>and thank you everyone for the support. I was trying

1547
01:44:53.279 --> 01:44:55.439
<v Speaker 7>to look at the chat and not laugh too much,

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01:44:55.520 --> 01:44:56.119
<v Speaker 7>So thanks you.

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01:44:56.359 --> 01:45:00.600
<v Speaker 4>For the grown episode on my show. You Gotta Anytime

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01:45:00.159 --> 01:45:02.079
<v Speaker 4>one gray Field YouTube tire.

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01:45:02.159 --> 01:45:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Ethan's got a lot to say. Actually, if you look.

1552
01:45:06.720 --> 01:45:09.960
<v Speaker 6>Much stuff I got, I got PowerPoint presentations ready, so

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01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:11.000
<v Speaker 6>I'm ready anytime.

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01:45:11.520 --> 01:45:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah for real.

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01:45:12.680 --> 01:45:17.239
<v Speaker 4>Every Tuesday thirty Central already dead. Uh me, Well, I'm

1556
01:45:17.279 --> 01:45:21.439
<v Speaker 4>the producer. I run behind the scenes. But Josey Gallison

1557
01:45:21.520 --> 01:45:24.800
<v Speaker 4>and Austin Picard, uh you can catch it on their

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01:45:24.880 --> 01:45:28.199
<v Speaker 4>channels or mine. I stream it to my channel too.

1559
01:45:28.239 --> 01:45:33.199
<v Speaker 4>So Tuesday did I say Thursday? I meant Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday, tuesdays?

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01:45:33.199 --> 01:45:33.560
<v Speaker 4>Fuck me?

1561
01:45:34.760 --> 01:45:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Is that why you're not there?

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01:45:35.640 --> 01:45:42.279
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes ten hours a day? He's like, I'm there on Thursday?

1563
01:45:42.359 --> 01:45:50.640
<v Speaker 4>Like wait, yeah, yeah, guys, great show tonight. Hell here

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01:45:50.720 --> 01:45:52.479
<v Speaker 4>show tonight fellas.

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01:45:53.000 --> 01:45:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Definitely, definitely, No, that was a great, great show. Ethan again,

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01:45:56.000 --> 01:45:58.960
<v Speaker 2>I really for me, I did you. I don't know

1567
01:45:59.000 --> 01:46:00.640
<v Speaker 2>if you added all this stuff. It just seemed like

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01:46:00.680 --> 01:46:02.520
<v Speaker 2>it was it was different than the last time, maybe

1569
01:46:02.560 --> 01:46:04.520
<v Speaker 2>because there was different people here. But that was really

1570
01:46:04.560 --> 01:46:08.720
<v Speaker 2>really great stuff man, and the chat was awesome, so I.

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01:46:08.760 --> 01:46:10.680
<v Speaker 7>Tried really trying to make it a little different.

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01:46:10.960 --> 01:46:13.359
<v Speaker 1>But oh yeah, I appreciate it, man.

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01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:16.840
<v Speaker 2>But uh yeah, that is the end of another reculled

1574
01:46:16.920 --> 01:46:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Rejects And thanks again for everybody in the chat. That's

1575
01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:22.319
<v Speaker 2>what's up. Thank you all for making it tonight. And

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01:46:22.359 --> 01:46:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I know it's a little bit later, but I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>And until the next one, everybody be well.

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<v Speaker 1>Later
