WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.799 --> 00:00:10.160 Hello, Hello, Welcome to the aw Ignition Podcast, brought to 2 00:00:10.199 --> 00:00:14.560 you by the aw fan Hub community. This is Alex. 3 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:20.320 I am your loan host for the evening. Kelson is indisposed. 4 00:00:20.399 --> 00:00:23.679 It is election night in the United States of America, 5 00:00:24.239 --> 00:00:29.679 so a lot of our normal participants are perhaps voting 6 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:34.000 or watching election coverage. We will not be discussing the 7 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:37.719 election tonight. We will only be sticking solely to the 8 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:41.320 world of aw wrestling. We have some moves that we're 9 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:43.240 going to talk about, and then we will do a 10 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:48.600 little recap of the upcoming Dynamite coming to us tomorrow night. 11 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:53.719 I am joined tonight by our friend Sutton and Net 12 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:57.960 and first we're going to talk about some events we 13 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:02.000 had on the weekend. We had a few wrestlers from 14 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:07.319 ae W showing up at New Japan Pro Wrestling, and 15 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:09.719 it seems like they're starting to build to the Wrestle 16 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:14.719 Dynasty show. I know that you're most excited about this. 17 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:16.640 First person that we're going to talk about, we had 18 00:01:16.760 --> 00:01:19.040 Kenny Omega his return. 19 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:24.480 Yes, I am excited to see Kenny back. I'm glad 20 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:25.799 that he's feeling better. 21 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:30.480 Yeah, what do you think about him returning on New 22 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:32.920 Japan instead of AW. 23 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:40.079 I think he returned to New Japan because that's just 24 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:47.879 where he kind of is, I don't know, most comfortable, 25 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:49.920 maybe a good. 26 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:53.359 Way to make a name for himself. That's where he yeah, 27 00:01:54.359 --> 00:01:56.280 Ken Omega, Yeah. 28 00:01:56.000 --> 00:02:01.560 So I think that's that's why he decided to come 29 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:05.359 back there. And there seems to be a lot of 30 00:02:05.400 --> 00:02:08.879 things going on at a a W at the moment, 31 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:13.199 so maybe he's letting those stories play out a little bit. 32 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:18.039 And you're gonna do with the speed of New Japan. 33 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:21.599 It's different there. It's not the same as it is 34 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:26.240 in a W. Their matches to me, run slower. Everything 35 00:02:26.360 --> 00:02:29.879 is done methodically, so you I mean you don't. It's 36 00:02:29.879 --> 00:02:32.800 not that you have less excitement in the matches. It 37 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:36.240 just seems to be done mm hm. 38 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:37.560 You know with a method. 39 00:02:37.800 --> 00:02:40.280 They have a method to their madness, whereas in AW 40 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:42.759 you never know what's going to happen. 41 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:48.159 Yeah, in Japan generally it's not like televised. It's just 42 00:02:49.159 --> 00:02:51.840 you watch it on their streaming service. Like they're not 43 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:55.599 building the match around commercials or have to keep it 44 00:02:55.639 --> 00:02:56.479 short for TV. 45 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:00.560 Right, right, that's true. 46 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:02.520 Who did he challenge? I didn't see it yet. Who 47 00:03:02.520 --> 00:03:03.199 did he challenge. 48 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:07.319 I think he he basically said he's challenging someone like 49 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:09.759 a young up and comer. I don't think he named 50 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:15.120 anyone specific, But then backstage he was attacked by Gabe Kid. 51 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:18.240 That would be a resting match. 52 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:24.240 Yeah, making Kid did a bit in aw like he 53 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:27.759 had he tagged with Roderick Strong for whatever reason, and 54 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:29.919 they had the tag match on the opening show. But 55 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:32.039 in New Japan he's a much bigger deal. 56 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:33.280 Mm hmm. 57 00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:39.759 Yeah, yes, this is like a few to set up 58 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:42.639 something bigger at Wressell Dynasty, or if this is going 59 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:45.400 to be the match that Keny Omega has at Wressell Dynasty. 60 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:49.240 I think I also saw he made a funny comment 61 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:56.280 basically saying that that Gabe Kid attacking him backstage reminded 62 00:03:56.360 --> 00:04:01.319 him of a certain someone who also attacked him backstage, 63 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:03.240 basically hinting at cmpunk. 64 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:11.120 Oh oh wow, can he's been out of touch for 65 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:13.759 a while. He doesn't realize that Sampunk doesn't work here anymore. 66 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:25.279 Jesus, he's just poking the bear if CM punk, yeah, respond. 67 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:30.639 It's it's easy to bother sampunk. 68 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:37.439 He gets worked up, absolutely, Yeah, it's easy. But with 69 00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:40.240 Kenny coming back, I wonder when we're going to also 70 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:45.839 see a boushie. I've been waiting awaiting his return as well. 71 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:51.000 Oh yeah, that reason, Yeah, that could be a reason 72 00:04:51.079 --> 00:04:53.800 why he didn't show up in a w yet. Maybe 73 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:57.480 they're waiting for a boushie to be healthy if they're 74 00:04:57.480 --> 00:05:01.360 gonna bring back him with the boushie and they're going 75 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:03.920 to have like a match, I guess like the young 76 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:07.240 Bucks are said to be out for a while as well. 77 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:10.000 So I can't remember which one, but one of them 78 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:15.519 has a separated shoulder, and that's yeah, I couldn't I 79 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:17.959 couldn't remember which one it was. But that's basically the 80 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:20.160 reason why they left the titles where they did, and 81 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:23.600 they're taking the time off. Problem with us separated shoulder 82 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:26.360 is that doesn't necessarily alas heal. I mean, you can 83 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:28.079 get it back to the point where it's not bothering 84 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:30.199 you anymore. But that's something that he could always have 85 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:32.519 a problem with. But I kind of think you're right 86 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:36.399 on that though, Alex. I think that the the when 87 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:40.639 he when a Boushie and Omega come back, I think 88 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:45.240 there's gonna be a short, small little feud between them 89 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:45.920 and the Bucks. 90 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:49.199 That might lead to a turnaround for the elite. I 91 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:49.560 don't know. 92 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:52.839 It's it's an idea, but it's hard to tell when 93 00:05:52.879 --> 00:05:53.560 that's gonna happen. 94 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:58.720 It's hard to tell what they're doing that and a 95 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:04.560 bush spent all. We're social media, so I don't know. 96 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:08.519 He's also hinted that he's ready to come back, that 97 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:12.160 he's been training and he's in the gym every day 98 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:16.920 and he's made up with everybody. 99 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:19.879 At New Japan. Oh really, okay, yeah, yeah. 100 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:23.160 He was saying that he's he's forgiven things and left 101 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:27.319 things in the past, So who knows what's going on there? 102 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:29.920 You know, I've been wondering. 103 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:32.319 And if you think about it, Aboushi was the one 104 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:34.480 that came out with the thing saying that Kenny was 105 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:36.439 a couple of months at least three two or three 106 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:40.040 months away from being back, and that puts you at 107 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:45.560 Russell dynasty, So you know, this is kind of working 108 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:46.079 towards that. 109 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:49.079 But it's going to be I mean, what he thinks 110 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:50.240 are going right now? I don't know. 111 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:52.199 This is this is kind of crazy. There's there's some 112 00:06:52.240 --> 00:06:55.160 crazy stuff going on. It is a lot of fun. 113 00:06:56.360 --> 00:06:57.399 It's a good time. 114 00:06:57.480 --> 00:07:01.279 Yeah, I think it leads us to like Rickish debut. 115 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:04.319 Well showed up in New Japan. I think he was 116 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:08.920 there maybe last six or eight years ago. Yeah, and 117 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:12.240 he showed up to challenge Zach Saber Junior. I think 118 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:14.560 they've already announced that that's going to be a match 119 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:19.879 at Russell Dynasty. Their exact Saber Junior is still the 120 00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:22.639 world champion at that point remains to be seen. But 121 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:26.879 it's interesting because you know, Ricochet when he was in 122 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:31.839 New Japan was not necessarily a main event guy. He's 123 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:35.519 maybe not a main event guy. Even right now, he's 124 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:38.040 really good. I think they're building him to be a 125 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:42.600 main event guy, but it is an interesting choice for 126 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:44.759 a big matchup in New Japan. 127 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:48.199 Well, the thing about it is that he kind of 128 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:52.360 falls into the same boat that Shelton Benjamin did. He 129 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:56.160 wasn't used right in WWE, They didn't use him anyway. 130 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:57.439 Near how he should have been used. 131 00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:00.600 Ricochet should have been one of their top superstar period 132 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:01.600 because he's that good. 133 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:06.319 You know, this this him coming. 134 00:08:06.040 --> 00:08:10.079 To a w and aw making him, putting him in 135 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:17.079 the situation he's been in against h Takeushta and Osprey 136 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:20.360 and kind of rolling that in it's really put a 137 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:23.199 highlight on him and shown what he can do. And 138 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:26.560 I just hope it continues because Ricochet could be a 139 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:28.480 big building block for AW. 140 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:34.440 Yeah, I believe that he has like a great look. 141 00:08:36.200 --> 00:08:40.720 He's better than I expected on the mic cutting promos 142 00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:43.440 and stuff. I thought he would be really bad, just 143 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:46.080 because I'd seen bits and pieces along from a long 144 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:50.679 time ago. But he's been surprising, And yeah, he's looked 145 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:54.159 kind of they've basically presented him on the level of Ospray. 146 00:08:54.879 --> 00:08:58.080 You almost wonder when when Osprey was choosing to go 147 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:01.039 to AW or WWE, if if you looked at how 148 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:05.679 they treated Ricochet and kind of help that make his decision, Like, 149 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:08.679 here's the guy that's skill level to me. 150 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:11.679 Yeah too. 151 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:15.559 And not only that, but you know, if you're a 152 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:19.240 superstar and you've been in New Japan or somewhere else 153 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:22.879 and you look at you're wanting to stay and be 154 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:25.039 able to do that again, you know it's not gonna 155 00:09:25.039 --> 00:09:28.120 happen if you go to WWE. Seriously, they're not gonna 156 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:30.679 They're not gonna work with New Japan. Very rarely do 157 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:33.960 they send people there. They might work with like TNA 158 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:36.799 or something small, but they're not gonna work with the 159 00:09:36.840 --> 00:09:39.039 places that you want to work with that you have 160 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:41.159 in the past, So you have to make a choice 161 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:43.840 and say, hey, if I go to AW, I can 162 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:46.639 pretty much work wherever I want to and. 163 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:47.440 Do what I want. 164 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:49.519 And or I could go to a W and yeah, 165 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:51.039 they may pay me more money, but I won't be 166 00:09:51.080 --> 00:09:53.159 as exposed or get as much exposure as I used to. 167 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:56.039 So you know, I think that's a major factor and 168 00:09:56.080 --> 00:09:59.039 why a lot of these superstars are choosing a W 169 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:00.240 instead of W. 170 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:07.600 Mm hmm, yeah, for sure. And I think there was 171 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:12.519 one more person to mention, not necessarily for Wressell Dynasty, 172 00:10:12.559 --> 00:10:14.480 and I don't know if he showed up in New 173 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:18.120 Japan over the weekend, but we had Takeshta has been 174 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:22.759 announced for International title Match FIRSUS. I think TJP from 175 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:23.799 the United Empire. 176 00:10:25.240 --> 00:10:29.080 Oh yeah, yeah, and Tekesh is going to be in 177 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:30.919 Seattle this weekend. 178 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:33.080 I'm not going to that show. 179 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:41.960 Yeah, TJP W is having an event hosted by DeFi. 180 00:10:42.639 --> 00:10:45.759 And he's going to be here, and a lot. 181 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:51.159 Of the the women wrestlers, a bunch of people. I 182 00:10:51.480 --> 00:10:53.200 can't even think of all who it is, but I 183 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:56.120 know Takesh is going to be here. I think on 184 00:10:56.159 --> 00:10:58.679 a I think it's his show. I think is on 185 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:02.039 the ninth. It's a whole weekend of events from Friday 186 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:08.600 to Sunday, and I don't remember who he's wrestling. I 187 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:11.720 think it's him and his friends who are in D 188 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:15.919 D T. I think it's the name of the group. 189 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:20.360 Yeah, that's like the promotion. Okay, maybe the third or 190 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:22.440 fourth biggest promotion in Japan. 191 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:26.919 Okay, that's they're they're putting on a show. So I 192 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:31.919 don't know when they announced it. When they announced this 193 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:36.240 whole weekend event, I wasn't that big ongoing. And then 194 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:39.879 by the time they announced to Kesta, all the tickets 195 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:43.799 were pretty much sold out, so I'm you know, I 196 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:46.759 missed out. They sprung to Kesta on kind of at 197 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:48.639 the last minute, darn it. 198 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:52.039 Yeah, I wonder if he's I'm trying to pull it 199 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:55.679 up and I don't see any matches announced, but I 200 00:11:55.720 --> 00:11:58.320 wonder if he's going to defend the international title there 201 00:11:58.440 --> 00:11:59.360 against somebody. 202 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:01.039 I don't don't know what he's doing. 203 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:04.759 I really have no idea because I've been kind of 204 00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:07.399 disappointed that I'm not going, so I've been trying not 205 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:16.200 to pay attention. So I don't know, I really don't know, 206 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:16.919 but I know. 207 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:18.000 He's going to be here. 208 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:23.360 So and a lot of the women wrestlers that whole promotion, 209 00:12:23.559 --> 00:12:26.000 a bunch of people are supposed to be here. I'm 210 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:29.039 not really familiar with all of them, so I couldn't 211 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:29.399 tell you. 212 00:12:29.960 --> 00:12:32.559 Okay, yeah, I'm looking. I'm looking at a picture and 213 00:12:32.600 --> 00:12:37.639 that looks like, yeah, Takeshta Machi Edo, Nick Wayne, and 214 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:40.279 it looks like Marina Shaffir as well, will be there. 215 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:48.919 Ten She's the DeFi Women's World Champion, so she'll she'll 216 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:50.080 definitely be here. 217 00:12:51.159 --> 00:12:51.399 Yeah. 218 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:54.720 Yeah, I can't wait till she has a match in 219 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:59.679 a w again. I can't wrestling on Ring of Honor. 220 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:03.720 But yeah, I like her a lot. I think she's 221 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:04.279 really cool. 222 00:13:04.919 --> 00:13:05.480 I do too. 223 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:11.120 She's very very good. I'm seeing her live too. She's 224 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:17.360 a very good wrestler. I like her technical skills. I 225 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:22.559 hope that they show her a lot more and you know, 226 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:25.519 really do something with her other than just kind of 227 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:30.159 be Max's sidekick or whatever she's got going on there. 228 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:33.639 So I'm you know, she's got a lot to bring 229 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:34.879 to the women's division. 230 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:40.120 I think, Yeah, for sure, if they can get opponents 231 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:46.720 that kind of match her style. Yeah, it's kind of 232 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:49.200 the hard perp. But I'm sure there's some. 233 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:55.879 Yeah, I can think of a couple, but I don't know. 234 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:57.559 I don't know if that's going to be in the 235 00:13:57.679 --> 00:13:59.600 cards for her at the moment. I don't think they're 236 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:02.120 going to do anything with her other than what she's 237 00:14:02.159 --> 00:14:07.720 doing right now, because one, there's really no storyline unless 238 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:09.720 they unless they have the group, you know what I mean, 239 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:13.879 unless somebody like you know, I can't think of names 240 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:14.360 right now. 241 00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:15.559 I hate that. 242 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:22.200 But if they get somebody, if they have like if 243 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:24.879 they have good lord, my brain just died. 244 00:14:25.159 --> 00:14:28.200 Well they have like cop flight is there and they 245 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:31.360 have Lailah Grays with them they want to. 246 00:14:32.120 --> 00:14:36.240 They could do it with her. They could do it 247 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:38.919 with the big girl. I can't think of her name. 248 00:14:40.840 --> 00:14:45.840 No, they could have Naya, you know, I mean na 249 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:49.120 A Rose would be a good competition for her, because Niala. 250 00:14:49.639 --> 00:14:51.320 They don't give her enough credit for what she can 251 00:14:51.320 --> 00:14:54.480 do in the ring. She can go with anybody, but 252 00:14:55.480 --> 00:14:57.519 it's gonna be one of those things where to make 253 00:14:57.559 --> 00:14:59.960 it work you have to fit it into the storyline. 254 00:15:00.519 --> 00:15:05.360 And right now, You've got hers playing enforcer and that's it. 255 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:09.000 She's not going into you know, there's there's no woman 256 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:13.759 in a w that AW can pick to go, Okay, 257 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:16.440 this is who are enforcer's going to be. They just 258 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:20.240 don't have anybody to fit that. And they wouldn't that, you. 259 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:22.639 Know, maybe if they said, like Willow is part of 260 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:25.480 the conglomeration and they're feuding against. 261 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:29.279 To be honest, I just I just don't see Willow 262 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:30.919 in that role, you know what I mean. She just 263 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:34.960 she's I guess, no other way to put it. She's 264 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:38.559 more like a giant teddy bear, you know what I mean. 265 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:42.120 She doesn't come across as like a power wrestler. Like, 266 00:15:42.279 --> 00:15:44.799 for example, if you wanted to put Statlander in that role, 267 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:49.000 she would make an amazing enforcer for the AW crew. 268 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:51.879 But yeah, and that and. 269 00:15:51.840 --> 00:15:53.519 That actually would be that would I think would be 270 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:59.480 an amazing match between her and yeah Statlander and uh, 271 00:15:59.480 --> 00:16:01.080 oh my god, that would be a hell of a match. 272 00:16:02.519 --> 00:16:06.399 Yeah, because they could. My wife was wearing a best 273 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:11.279 friend's shirt. They had Statlander and it didn't have Wheeler 274 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:13.879 U't on it, but I had Chuck Taylor and Trent 275 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:18.720 and Orange Cassidy I mean, yeah, Statlander, I don't know 276 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:21.879 why they even broke them up now that Statlander's you know, 277 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:23.279 a baby face again. 278 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:26.960 And that whole thing was such a waste of time. 279 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:31.799 They really, you know, I think they should have just 280 00:16:31.919 --> 00:16:38.039 kept going with it. It takesse disappointing that they. 281 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:40.000 Just it was one of those. 282 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:44.080 I still think they went around the wrong way because 283 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:47.919 it would have made more sense to turn Willow, especially 284 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:48.919 if they were going to do it for such a 285 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:53.039 short amount of time, because Willow. For me, during that 286 00:16:53.080 --> 00:16:56.360 whole time, Willow came across as being kind of a 287 00:16:56.440 --> 00:17:00.000 tweeer because one minute she was all giddy and happy, 288 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:02.519 in the next minute she had a main street And 289 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:07.599 to me, it would have just been more believable had 290 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:10.960 it been her, because she had as much reason to 291 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:14.759 turn as Statlander did, because she was getting screwed over 292 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:14.960 in a. 293 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:17.960 Lot of things too. So the reason they turned that 294 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:19.839 would have worked either way, and they I just. 295 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:22.000 Think they chose the wrong one. But thank god they've 296 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:24.039 changed it back now. They just need to get stat 297 00:17:24.119 --> 00:17:27.119 Lander in some matches where she's not getting putting matches 298 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:30.440 against you know, like she did the last match that 299 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:33.119 wasn't even shouldn't even been close to the match, but. 300 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:33.559 It was. 301 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:38.480 The one against Camille. 302 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:42.799 Yeah, Camille, I'm sorry. I like Camille's character, but she's 303 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:47.359 not a wrestler she did so it just made me 304 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:55.119 angry because Camille against Queen Amanada looked horrible. She looked 305 00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:58.039 she barely beat Queen Amanada. And Queen Monada is good, 306 00:17:58.079 --> 00:18:01.000 but she's not quite top level yet. She's getting there 307 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:04.279 very quickly, but she's not quite there. But then Camille 308 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:06.680 comes back and wrestles someone like Statlander, who is one 309 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:09.359 of the top talents in the women's division, and they 310 00:18:09.400 --> 00:18:12.759 made Camille look like one of the greatest wrestlers ever. 311 00:18:13.880 --> 00:18:16.880 And you know, it's kind of it kind of to 312 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:20.400 me is like I said last week, I was telling 313 00:18:20.440 --> 00:18:24.119 Kelson the women's divisions problem. They're they're never going to 314 00:18:24.200 --> 00:18:27.000 get over the women's division over the hump if they 315 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:30.359 continue to do matches like that where you have Statlander, 316 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:32.799 who should be vying for either of the should be 317 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:34.119 vying for the women's world title. 318 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:37.680 Let's be honest. She's she's paid her dues and she should. 319 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:41.839 Be in that in that realm, she goes up against 320 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:45.559 somebody who is not on her level, yet she makes them, 321 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:48.640 she gets a point where she has to put up 322 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:51.079 a match where she has to make them look super 323 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:54.680 great when they're not. And it's like when people we 324 00:18:54.759 --> 00:18:58.200 go against Britt Baker in the past, or the people 325 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:00.799 going up against Monatue. Now, you know has been put 326 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:03.319 in some matches that she should never have won because 327 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:06.279 she's just not that good, at least in my eyes. 328 00:19:06.359 --> 00:19:08.880 I mean there's a personal opinion, but from watching the 329 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:11.960 matches and seeing what she's done, she struggles, and they're 330 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:14.720 putting her against the wrong people. You need to put somebody, 331 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:16.720 you got to start. They until they get to the 332 00:19:16.759 --> 00:19:21.839 point where they have matches between believable matches between the 333 00:19:21.920 --> 00:19:22.480 life talent. 334 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:24.440 The women's division is always going to struggle. 335 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:27.160 It's just never going to get over the hump because 336 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:31.039 you've got too many matches that are should be a 337 00:19:31.079 --> 00:19:32.359 handicap match that aren't. 338 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:37.640 I mean, I wouldn't say it's only the women's division. 339 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:40.200 I think a lot of aw because they put on 340 00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:44.680 longer matches. That is, you know, you end up putting 341 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:48.359 on matches where Leo Rush goes like fifteen minutes against 342 00:19:48.440 --> 00:19:50.160 That was ridiculous. 343 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:52.319 But I get it from what they did it for 344 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:56.680 because you know, they wanted to showcase Shelton's ability. 345 00:19:57.680 --> 00:20:01.240 I think it's a fantastic match, and I guess there's 346 00:20:01.319 --> 00:20:05.759 just like an element of just suspending your disbelief. You 347 00:20:05.880 --> 00:20:09.240 just want to watch a good wrestling match. Yeah, it's 348 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:11.839 maybe more equal than it should be, but. 349 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:15.559 Well, I'm with Leo you. I mean, it's funny. 350 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:17.960 I don't think you were here for that kills and 351 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:19.920 started calling him Riho Rush. 352 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:26.640 I tell you what, in the a w Leo. 353 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:28.839 Rush versus Riho would be the greatest match you could 354 00:20:28.839 --> 00:20:30.319 ever see. 355 00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:33.559 It literally would be a great match. 356 00:20:34.839 --> 00:20:37.799 Reminds me. I guess Marco Stunt retired apparently. 357 00:20:38.039 --> 00:20:41.799 Yeah, yeah, something about it or some injury to back 358 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:42.319 or something. 359 00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:48.880 Mm hmm, yeah yeah, Nett, I cut you off. I 360 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:50.279 think you're about to say something. 361 00:20:50.839 --> 00:20:54.720 No, I was gonna agree. I would like to see 362 00:20:55.440 --> 00:21:01.279 where they did a little bit more like wrestlers like wrestlers, 363 00:21:01.640 --> 00:21:06.160 and then change it up a little bit like One 364 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:09.799 of the best matches I think I saw was when 365 00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:14.720 they did Danielson and Zach Saber Junior, two very good 366 00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:16.480 technical wrestlers. 367 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:21.160 And that doesn't mean that Danielson. 368 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:28.319 Can't wrestle Mocks or Claudio or whoever else. But they 369 00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:31.519 had him with someone that really could match him at 370 00:21:31.559 --> 00:21:36.000 his skill level. And when they do the matches where 371 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:40.720 they have somebody like Shelton Benjamin just beating up Leo 372 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:45.359 Rush all the time, it's like you just have to 373 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:49.319 really just suspend your belief. If they put Benjamin with 374 00:21:49.400 --> 00:21:53.160 someone who was one his skill level and then he 375 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:57.880 had a couple of matches with people that were not 376 00:21:58.640 --> 00:22:02.720 his size and his skill set, it would be a 377 00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:07.359 little more interesting for the average person to catch just 378 00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:13.000 out there every week beating up everybody. Claudio's swinging everyone. 379 00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:14.279 Around all the time. 380 00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:18.640 You know, it's like, get someone equal to them a 381 00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:21.400 little bit, give us a little bit of a challenge 382 00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:23.759 and make us want to see the matches. 383 00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:27.680 Yeah. I didn't see this on Rampage, but apparently they 384 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:33.359 had Commander versus Leo Rush, and that kind of makes 385 00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:37.200 me think of like what you're talking about. You actually 386 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:40.240 don't know who's going to win that, right a Leo, 387 00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:44.279 but apparently Commander got a rare victory in that match. 388 00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:48.000 Yeah, it's it's like everybody talks about the Leo Rush 389 00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:51.440 Shelton Benjamin match, but I think that the match between 390 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.039 uh just the past Wednesday last week with Shelton and 391 00:22:57.079 --> 00:23:02.640 UH Swerve, that was an amazing match. That Mask guys too, 392 00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:05.440 That was a perfect example what you're saying that you 393 00:23:05.480 --> 00:23:09.200 know it you guys on level and you could you 394 00:23:09.240 --> 00:23:11.680 could that mass could have went that that mass could 395 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:14.440 have went for days and no one would have been 396 00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:18.279 surprised because you know, they were they were what they were. 397 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:20.319 And that's one of the things that's that's great because 398 00:23:20.359 --> 00:23:25.440 Shelton Benjamin brings that something that you know, there's he 399 00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:29.799 brings something to a w that there's a few people 400 00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:33.359 can do. And that's go with guys like Swerve and 401 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:35.400