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See website. 24 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:12.280 You are now listening to true Murder, The most shocking 25 00:01:12.359 --> 00:01:15.400 killers in true crime history and the authors that have 26 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:16.319 written about them. 27 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:21.519 Gasey Bundy, Dahmer, The Nightstalker Dck. 28 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:26.239 Every week another fascinating author talking about the most shocking 29 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:30.519 and infamous killers in true crime history. True Murder with 30 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:34.000 your host journalist and author Dan Zufanski. 31 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:48.239 Good evening. On the psaltry August morning in nineteen seventy, 32 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:51.400 the battered body of a young woman was hoisted from 33 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:55.680 a dry well just outside Hogansville, Georgia. Author and investigator 34 00:01:55.719 --> 00:02:00.840 Clay Bryant was there witnessing the macabre scene. Bryant was 35 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:04.719 tagging along with his father, Buddy Bryant, Hogansville chief of Police. 36 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:08.560 The victim, Gwendolen Moore, had been in a violent marriage 37 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:11.680 that was no secret, but her husband had connections to 38 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:15.080 a political machine that held sway over the troop. County 39 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:19.560 Sheriff's office overseeing the case. To the dismay and bafflement 40 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:23.719 of many, no charges were brought, that is until Bryant 41 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:27.599 followed his father's footsteps into law enforcement and a voice 42 00:02:27.639 --> 00:02:32.280 cried out from the well. Three decades later, the book 43 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:35.439 that we're featuring this evening is solving the West Georgia 44 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:39.080 murder of Gwendolen Moore. A Cry from the Well with 45 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:46.719 my special guest, State trooper and an investigator, Clay Bryant. 46 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:48.719 Welcome to the program, and thank you so much for 47 00:02:48.759 --> 00:02:53.879 this interview. Clay Bryant, Thank you so much. I appreciate 48 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:59.000 the opportunity to talk about the case it was. It's 49 00:02:59.080 --> 00:03:03.439 been very a high point of my life, absolutely, and 50 00:03:03.879 --> 00:03:07.319 this book is testament to that. Let's start off right 51 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:11.599 away with you were raised in Hogansville, Georgia, West Central Georgia. 52 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:16.319 Your father was the local police chief. Tell us about 53 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:20.120 your upbringing and some of the things that you learned 54 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:22.240 from your father, Buddy Bryant. 55 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:27.400 Well, to be quite honest, for the most part, I 56 00:03:27.479 --> 00:03:30.560 was raised on the stateable police call. My dad was 57 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:32.759 a local police chief, and. 58 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:34.840 I was. 59 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:40.960 Spent every week an hour I could with my dad. 60 00:03:41.479 --> 00:03:44.199 He was kind of my hero, you know. He was 61 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:49.360 kind of a mixture between Andy Griffith and Chief Gillespie 62 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:51.280 and a little bit of Will Rogers. He had a 63 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:57.759 saying and some philosophy about everything. As Southern police chiefs go. 64 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:02.360 He was well educated. He went to the Southern Police Institute. 65 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:05.360 He was in the first graduating class of the Georgia 66 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:08.680 Police Academy in nineteen sixty six. He was an FBI 67 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:15.840 fingerprinted expert. He was at he would. He loved his 68 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:19.959 craft and he did everything he could to further himself 69 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:25.839 in it. And uh, he also loved people. And that's 70 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:28.800 the one thing that I admired about him most. He 71 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:31.680 had time for everybody in the world. Didn't matter if 72 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:34.839 you were, you know, the president of the bank at 73 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:40.800 lunchtime at the city Club, or if it was one 74 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:43.959 of the miscreants from in town that were banging on 75 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:47.279 the door at Sunday morning at six o'clock trying to 76 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:50.560 explain what happened to him on Saturday. You know, it 77 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:53.079 was just it was a it was a great place 78 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:57.399 to live. Everybody knew everybody, and it was it was Mayberry. Uh. 79 00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:02.759 If you can envision that, I had a wonderful childhood. Yeah. 80 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:07.160 Now let's get to a time and a case that 81 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:11.959 affected your father greatly, and obviously that's what this book 82 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:16.199 is about. The events of August fourth, August third, and 83 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:22.560 August forth in nineteen seventy. Tell us what had happened? 84 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:26.639 You talk about A crowd had gathered gathered around South 85 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:32.360 Lee Street at the old house adjacent to Junior Turner's yard. 86 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:36.439 Tell us about the call that your father got and 87 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:39.360 what happened to you and your father that day. 88 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:43.959 Well, as I did a lot of times, I was 89 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:46.879 tagging along with my dad. I don't exactly remember what 90 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:49.240 I was doing in the police station with him that morning, 91 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:51.680 but he got a call from the Sheriff's office and 92 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:56.560 there had been a body found in a whale just 93 00:05:56.680 --> 00:06:01.160 outside the city of Hoganville at that time time. The 94 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:03.199 sheriff's office wanted my dad to go out and take 95 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:07.879 some photographs the body in the recovery. So of course 96 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:10.199 he asked me, He said, you want to go, so 97 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:13.279 ride in, jump right in a police call with him, 98 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:16.519 and we rode out, myself and he and one of 99 00:06:16.519 --> 00:06:21.439 the other officers rode out just literally a stone's throw 100 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:26.279 outside the city limits of Hoganville, and there in an 101 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:30.959 abandoned well, about twenty feet down, you could see the body. 102 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:35.399 It was looked as if it was in a fetal position, 103 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:38.360 but like kneeling to pray. Uh, And I guess that's 104 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:43.399 just the way that Gwendolen landed in the well. It 105 00:06:43.439 --> 00:06:47.319 was a dry well that it had been curved to 106 00:06:47.480 --> 00:06:49.920 a house years before, and the house had burned down, 107 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:52.959 and people in the neighborhood actually had been used in 108 00:06:52.959 --> 00:06:57.240 the old well to throw garbage in. And she was 109 00:06:57.279 --> 00:07:01.560 down in the well and there was a number of 110 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:06.839 folks there. One of the kids in the neighborhood had 111 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:08.680 found a body cause they were looking for from the 112 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:13.519 night before. It was, you know, said that she she 113 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:16.759 they hadn't found her the night before, and she was 114 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:20.680 her husband had been looking for her, and one thing 115 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:25.040 and another. But there was probably twenty twenty five folks around. 116 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:29.240 And we're talking about you know, rural True County, Georgia. 117 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:32.920 Uh So there was just a few houses there, but 118 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:37.680 everybody right close by was there watching the scene. And 119 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:42.600 I never will forget a thing that moved me the 120 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:45.319 most about it. The definty sheriff went down on a 121 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:51.439 cable that a record sent down as when they did 122 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:54.040 put a cable around the lady and when they raised 123 00:07:54.040 --> 00:07:59.439 her up either, well, she was on that cable and 124 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:03.240 you know, as a cable stretches, it spins around, and 125 00:08:04.040 --> 00:08:07.000 it was just a terrible display. And the sad thing 126 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:09.480 is on the side of the well over there were 127 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:12.839 three of her children, And yeah, I never will forget 128 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:17.680 that that was that that site stayed with me for 129 00:08:17.720 --> 00:08:21.959 a very long time and it does today. But uh, 130 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:26.879 everybody knew that there was you know, that she had 131 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:30.399 endured a a violent marriage and that all the neighbors 132 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:35.200 had seen evidence of that, and there was very little 133 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:39.000 doubt as to what had happened in the case. And uh, 134 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:44.480 but nothing ever happened in the case. And it it 135 00:08:44.519 --> 00:08:46.960 just it ate my dad alive. I mean, he it 136 00:08:47.080 --> 00:08:49.919 was the one thing that it He just didn't ever 137 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:55.120 turn loose. He'd see her husband on the street and 138 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:57.559 he'd say, you know, he should be on death row 139 00:08:57.600 --> 00:09:01.759 in Tattenhall County for what he did. He said, you know, 140 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:06.159 it was just inhumane that it never was pursued the 141 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:08.200 way that it should have been. There was no justice 142 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:08.559 for her. 143 00:09:10.799 --> 00:09:12.759 Now, as you write in the book, you tell us 144 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:17.679 about the history of the Marshall Moore, this is the 145 00:09:17.759 --> 00:09:21.240 man that was looking for his wife. And we haven't 146 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:24.679 talked about what happened on August third, nineteen seventy. But 147 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:30.840 let's go back to Marshall Moore and Gwendolyn. But how 148 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:35.279 Marshall Moore, the background of Marshall Moore, and before we 149 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:38.399 find out how he came to marry Gwendolen and then 150 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:42.320 the life that Gwendolen and their children endured under the 151 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:45.360 right under Marshall Moore. 152 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:50.919 Marshall Marshall was raised in the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains, 153 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:56.440 North Georgian, Rayburn County, and he was raised in a 154 00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:03.200 family that it was a lot of domestic violence, and 155 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:05.840 they were raised in a place where, you know, it 156 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:13.960 was very rural, very poor, and Marshall watched his father 157 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:20.840 mistreat his mother and it was a family legacy that 158 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:23.240 was passed down through the years. As a matter of fact, 159 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:27.679 his grandfather and I was told this by members of 160 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:33.679 his family, had killed his grandmother back in the thirties 161 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:36.759 in Raven County and burned her body on a pyre 162 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:40.919 in Raven County in the thirties and nothing was ever 163 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:45.159 done about that. But back again, back then, nobody knew 164 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:49.960 about the family and it was just a legacy of 165 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:54.840 brutality that it was passed down to him. Now, he 166 00:10:57.679 --> 00:11:01.360 and his father actually the first time he'd got got 167 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:04.240 into trouble, uh, he was as a juvenile. He and 168 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:06.600 his father committed a burglary his father was prision and 169 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:11.039 he did some time in a juvenile home and UH 170 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:15.840 when he left there, he found his way to Adamsville, 171 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:20.960 which is on the west side of Atlanta, uh, right 172 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:24.600 outside of Atlanta, and he uh a family took him 173 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:32.480 in and they were neighbors UH with the McDaniels, which 174 00:11:32.600 --> 00:11:40.200 uh Wynellan Moore was Wyndellan McDaniel prior to UH, prior 175 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:45.360 to their marriage. UH. Her parents were good, loving people, UH, 176 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:47.720 hard work and he worked for the railroad and this 177 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:52.759 and that, and Marshall came down and she married him 178 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:56.039 when she was fifteen years old. UH and she while 179 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:59.000 she was just had gotten out of the middle school 180 00:11:59.240 --> 00:12:04.519 at uh Margaret Faye Middle School in Adamsdale in Fulton County, 181 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:10.480 and U immediately she was pretty much I tried to 182 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:16.240 be isolated from her family and UH her path was set. 183 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:20.639 And it only it took fifteen years from the marriage 184 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:23.360 to the time that she was lifted out of that well. 185 00:12:23.679 --> 00:12:29.120 And she endured some unspeakable atrocities. And again this came 186 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:33.879 from her children and members of his family and her family. 187 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:38.200 And it's a I I it's a it's it's a 188 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:42.200 horrific story. Actually, but uh, every one it needed to 189 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:42.720 be told. 190 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:48.320 You explain in this book that uh, to to fully 191 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:53.120 understand the situation here, you talked about the grandfather, uh, 192 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:55.840 killing the grandmother and putting in a fire pit and 193 00:12:55.879 --> 00:13:00.320 no one saying anything, but this is nineteen seventy in 194 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:04.080 Troop County, Georgia. But unbelievably, and you say that to 195 00:13:04.120 --> 00:13:07.759 fully understand the cultural, political, and social climate in nineteen 196 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:11.559 seventy Troop County, Georgia, you said, you need to know 197 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:14.679 a little bit of the regional history. And we're talking 198 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:20.399 about John will and lou Shephard and their offspring and 199 00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:24.440 so tell us about the cultural, political, and social climate 200 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:30.720 in nineteen seventy and where this culture started and some 201 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:33.080 of the players involved. 202 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:38.840 Well, the Shepherd family originated just across the Alabama line 203 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:45.159 from Lagrange, Georgia. They had several children. They but two 204 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:50.600 of some of the children migrated down to Phoenix City, Alabama, 205 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:54.399 and some of them came into Lagrange and set up 206 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:59.759 businesses here. The ones that went down to Phoenix City, 207 00:14:00.519 --> 00:14:11.759 they helped build a gambling criminal empire, gambling, illegal electal, prostitution, everything, 208 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:15.639 every vice you can imagine. Uh. Time Magazine in the 209 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:19.519 forties and fifties regarded and I exposed a regarded to 210 00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:23.399 Phoenix City as the wickedest city in the United States 211 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:26.320 of America. As a matter of fact, General Patton had 212 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:29.399 it declared alf Lennson in a letter to the Department 213 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:32.000 to the Secretary of the Army when they were bearing 214 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:36.879 the third Army to go to Europe, he stated the 215 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:38.519 fact that he said, if it were up to him, 216 00:14:38.559 --> 00:14:42.240 he'd take a sherman across the river bridge between Columbus 217 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:46.120 and Phoenix City and destroy Phoenix City for the terrible 218 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:48.320 influence that was having on the men that he was 219 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:51.440 trying to train to go fight a war. Yeah, but 220 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:58.440 the guys that went south to Phoenix City was primarily 221 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:02.240 was Hohite Shepherd. A family referred him as Big Hoyt. 222 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:05.720 He opened up a place called Obama Club, and it 223 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:15.200 was run by Hoyt and his family, and they ruled 224 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:19.200 Phoenix City with an iron hand. They had the law 225 00:15:19.279 --> 00:15:22.639 enforcement to prosecute everything that had to do with the 226 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:29.840 politics in Phoenix City, Alabama. They owned, and in doing 227 00:15:29.879 --> 00:15:33.799 so it enabled them to literally get away with murder. 228 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:38.320 For years, the stories of Phoenix City had been well 229 00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:42.519 chronicled in the Phoenix City Story and one book by Ms. 230 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:46.279 Margaret and Barnes, Tragedy and Triumph of Phoenix City, Alabama 231 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:54.759 and nineteen fifty five. Phoenix City was the only The 232 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:58.879 Attorney General elect was murdered before we could take office 233 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:02.919 on the streets Hia City by the sheriff chief Deputy, 234 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:09.120 and that resulted in martial law being declared in Russell 235 00:16:09.159 --> 00:16:11.519 County and Phoenix City, Alabama. That is the only time 236 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:14.159 Marshal Pawfic has ever been declared in the United States 237 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:18.879 of America. UH. There was a big in UH federal 238 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:24.039 investigation and it resulted in UH a couple of hundred 239 00:16:24.039 --> 00:16:30.039 indictments and several convictions ranging everywhere from murder to aiding 240 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:34.200 UH folks that were in the gambling business. It was. 241 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:36.840 It was quite the feel but a lot of those 242 00:16:36.879 --> 00:16:42.960 folks migrated and their influence migrated up into Troup County, Georgia, 243 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:50.399 and they came in and took control of the Troop 244 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:56.039 County Democratic UH Committee. And back then there there wasn't 245 00:16:56.039 --> 00:17:02.679 any opposition in the South to UH. In a way 246 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:05.960 of party politics. You were a Southern Democrat or you 247 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:10.759 weren't anything. And right they they presented their candidates to 248 00:17:10.839 --> 00:17:16.160 run and for judgeships and law enforcement positions and prosecutor 249 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:20.440 positions in every other position. And it wasn't just in 250 00:17:20.519 --> 00:17:23.000 True County, but that's just the way it was in 251 00:17:23.119 --> 00:17:26.559 a lot of decision town. The sheriff had a lot 252 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:30.559 of power. He and the and the judges. They they 253 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:34.039 you know, they held the key to the jail. And 254 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:38.279 because of that, uh, the power they wilded was just 255 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:46.720 you know, remarkable, And because of that it allowed for 256 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:54.319 a lot of criminal enterprise developed and the result of 257 00:17:54.359 --> 00:17:58.720 that was situations like Gwyndell and Moore. Her husband had 258 00:17:58.759 --> 00:18:01.200 some ties to some of these folks that were in 259 00:18:01.240 --> 00:18:07.279 these criminal enterprises, and because of that, her case was 260 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:10.000 just basically swept under the road. 261 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:17.000 It's about the collusion between Shepherd and the sheriff Matthews. 262 00:18:17.720 --> 00:18:23.720 But also that four months after Marshall everyone knew that 263 00:18:23.759 --> 00:18:26.039 he had killed his wife and put her into this well, 264 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:33.440 he remarried this Shepherd's daughter, Priscilla, just to that's correct, 265 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:37.480 just to demonstrate the power that he had to elude 266 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:43.039 or evade prosecution for this. Now with this evading prosecution 267 00:18:43.240 --> 00:18:46.119 for this charge, I know that he marries Priscilla Shepherd. 268 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:52.400 But how do they actually go about not prosecuting this 269 00:18:52.599 --> 00:18:55.400 marshal at all? How is that possible? 270 00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:00.160 Well, you've got to remember now this is nineteen seventy, 271 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:03.920 two thousand and twenty. There wasn't any support groups. There 272 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:08.559 wasn't anybody. She was not from there. Uh, there wasn't 273 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:12.319 anybody standing on the courthouse steps, you know, having a 274 00:19:12.319 --> 00:19:15.160 fit because she and in the words of her s 275 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:18.880 of her one of her sons, my mother was a 276 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:26.640 prisoner and a slave. And again they weren't from the area. 277 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:29.039 They came in and he'd made and he'd made some 278 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:34.240 uh friends and high places, uh, simply because of how 279 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:38.039 he was. And uh, there there was there was no 280 00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:39.759 comfort for her. I mean, there was no place to 281 00:19:39.799 --> 00:19:43.839 govern with the neighbors. Now, the neighbors actually would witness it, 282 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:47.599 her getting beaten, would hide her under the house, you know. 283 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:50.519 Uh it it was just a tragic story. Again, there 284 00:19:50.519 --> 00:19:54.480 were there weren't any support mechanisms for anybody back then. 285 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:59.480 And uh, she even if she left him on several occasions, 286 00:19:59.519 --> 00:20:01.960 sometimes would go to his family and sometime to her, 287 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:04.880 but he'd always track her down. Back to that same 288 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:08.599 statement of her son, you know mother was a prisoner 289 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:13.039 and a slave, and that's what she was until she 290 00:20:13.160 --> 00:20:19.920 was sure she died. 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So they were called once upon a time 316 00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:41.559 by the turners and these police officers, these law enforcement 317 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:47.160 witnessed the beating and the berating of Gwendolen Moore at 318 00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:50.319 the hands of her husband, didn't they and nothing was done. 319 00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:56.960 Well, on the twenty eighth day of July of nineteen seventy, 320 00:21:58.160 --> 00:22:02.680 she was lawful what was called. She went to the 321 00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:08.519 hospital and she received stitches and treatment in the emergency 322 00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:13.640 room and sent back home to endure some more and 323 00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:20.000 what less than a week later, she's dead in the well. 324 00:22:21.559 --> 00:22:25.759 But it's hard for me. On several occasions, neighbors had 325 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:29.519 called and reported the violence that they were witnessing, and 326 00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:33.599 it was always a case, you know, I guess their 327 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:40.119 answer was a man's home as his castle. And there's 328 00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:42.559 no explanation for me for that, I mean, you know, 329 00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:49.240 I just it was just so blatantly wrong that there 330 00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:51.839 is no words to try to defend what they did. 331 00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:53.119 I just can't. 332 00:22:55.079 --> 00:22:59.720 Let's talk about August third, nineteen seventy, because later you 333 00:22:59.839 --> 00:23:04.640 tahal to this one of the sons, Allan, who was 334 00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:10.640 fourteen at that time, and Alan, we'll never forget what 335 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:13.160 happened that day. He was old enough to remember, and 336 00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:16.319 he was involved, at least in his mind, in the 337 00:23:16.440 --> 00:23:20.480 death of his mother. Let's talk about August third, nineteen seventy. 338 00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:25.920 You say that Gwendolyn had let Alan, Ricky and Larry 339 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:28.359 go to the swimming pool in Hogansville with a neighbor. 340 00:23:29.319 --> 00:23:32.880 But however A Marshall showed up at the swimming place 341 00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:35.839 and ordered the kids into the car ticket from there. 342 00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:37.920 Tell us what happened that day? 343 00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:42.920 Well, actually he had come home and write she told 344 00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:46.640 him that the kid had got on the swimming though. 345 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:53.000 That's when the worst of this beating. Who plays the 346 00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:57.400 one that Ronnie Turner witnessed from the front porge, And 347 00:23:58.920 --> 00:24:04.519 it was a tremend beating. He uh described vividly what 348 00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:11.480 had happened and Marshall after the beaten. I don't know 349 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:14.279 if she was unconscious of what, but she was on 350 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:17.559 the floor and Ronnie could see it through the through 351 00:24:17.599 --> 00:24:19.559 the bedroom window. As long as she was standing up, 352 00:24:19.559 --> 00:24:22.880 he could see what was happening, but he said he 353 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:26.279 never would forget that she Marshall had left at that point. 354 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:28.240 He was going to get the kids at the swimming pool. 355 00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:31.640 He had to have a complete told control over every 356 00:24:31.720 --> 00:24:37.640 aspect of everybody's life. And he said that Gwendolen got 357 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:43.119 up out of the floor and pulled usself up on 358 00:24:43.240 --> 00:24:46.920 the bedpost. And the last time he saw she was 359 00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:51.920 going out the door. And we're talking about I'm talking 360 00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:55.759 to him in two thousand and two, late two thousand 361 00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:58.680 and two, early two thousand and three, and he vividly 362 00:24:58.799 --> 00:25:04.079 describes the clothing the woman has on. Wow, and which 363 00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:09.079 you have to question the ability of an eyewitness sometime, 364 00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:14.240 you know. And I said, I said to Ronnie, I said, Ronnie, 365 00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:18.160 you're telling me that she had on a white blouse, 366 00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:21.400 yellow shorts. And she got up out of the floor, 367 00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:26.720 putting putting her blouse back on, and I said, you know, 368 00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:31.720 how can you remember that you saw it one time 369 00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:36.079 thirty three years ago. And he looked me straight in 370 00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:39.559 the face and said, no, chief, I've seen it nearly 371 00:25:39.640 --> 00:25:43.799 every day for thirty three years. And that in such 372 00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:49.160 a powerful statement, you know. And at that point she 373 00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:53.839 made her way over to Junior Turner's house where Junior's 374 00:25:54.880 --> 00:25:57.880 daughter and her boyfriend was there, and as they had 375 00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:00.680 done in the past, they hid her in the crawl 376 00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:03.240 space under the under the house to keep her away 377 00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:07.559 from Marshall and Alan. When they got back from the pool, 378 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:11.480 she was gone. And of course, uh, Marshall didn't want 379 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:13.640 any part of her going around the neighborhood looking like 380 00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:16.720 she looked at that point, and he sent the kids 381 00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:20.519 out to look for her. Well, Alan knew that she 382 00:26:20.680 --> 00:26:25.440 had in the past sought refuge under the house, so 383 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:31.000 he goes under the house. He finds his mother under 384 00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:33.319 the crawl space of the house like a dungeon. She's 385 00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:38.480 popped up against an old space heater and uh, eyes 386 00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:44.920 swollen shut, and you know, she's bloody, and Alan and 387 00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:47.519 her talk and she tells him that she's gonna try 388 00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:48.960 to get some help and she's gonna try to come 389 00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:54.400 back and get him. And Alan he comes out from 390 00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:56.920 under the house. He tells his dad he couldn't find her, 391 00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:06.279 and at that point this Marshall's search for her continues, 392 00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:10.279 you know, and the next thing you know, she's found 393 00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:17.759 in the well. The next morning, Alan, when I interviewed 394 00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:21.000 him in two thousand and two about this after the 395 00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:26.960 the case came back up. You know, he actually was 396 00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:29.480 r Now, he didn't run away from home. He was 397 00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:32.519 run away from home when he was fifteen years old, 398 00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:36.160 and he went and a aunt took him in down 399 00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:39.960 in Lagrange, Georgia, and she st He stayed with her 400 00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:41.960 for a couple of years till he went in the navy. 401 00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:44.480