Speaker 1: We're all owned by the Syndicate, body and soul or
should I just say bunny.
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 3: Filthy movie lovers, something weirdos and Anti Criterion Bros. To
the thirty ninth episode of The Sin Syndicate, where we
proudly fly the Blue and Gold Cross, where every winter
is cruel and every summer is spent with Monica. My
name is Gentry Austen, writer and researcher, and I'm here
with my co host, adult film historian Casey Scott. And
in this week's episode, we are joined by Rickard Graham
force In Patrick van Zikowski from Nordic Northern Europe to
talk about Swedish sin, sexploitation and maybe even some Joe Sarno.
Speaker 4: Come blow the horn, snuffer.
Speaker 5: A legend comes to life.
Speaker 2: You did from lover and fifteen on I six alextas.
Speaker 5: No one can escape the power of the horn. Where
is the Master? You love her?
Speaker 1: Do you loose yet?
Speaker 5: And I not? S? Do you entering? Once heard, never forgotten?
Speaker 4: Shammed of miss Blom and Romantis.
Speaker 5: The horn calls and they all answer.
Speaker 4: In the day, this is all day, one girl, one
magical horn and a midsummer legend.
Speaker 6: People matter of Money Hope, Come Blow.
Speaker 5: The Horn, a Swedish classic.
Speaker 3: But before we welcome on the Club's Super eight Boys,
a few news and updates. I think we can start
off with the announcement that we've been teasing, which is
Freedman collection number two, The Lustful Turk and the Joys
of Jezebel, was announced, and we did two commentaries on there, right.
Speaker 2: Casey we did.
Speaker 7: We actually just recorded our second commentary last weekend after
we did the Venus and first, so we were I
don't want that to sound like we were down to
the wire. We just there was some behind the scenes
stuff that we that we had to work with, but yeah,
we got those ready and they will be on that release.
And wow, I you know, I was listening back to
those kind of like the Bunny Yegers. We covered so
much stuff on those commentaries, so much stuff on both
of those. So I'm I'm I'm once again pretty proud.
Speaker 5: Of us for those.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I think, as I sort of teased on Instagram,
is you know, with regard to Byron Mabe, I don't
want to give away everything, but I think that the
research into his life and career that we touch on
in the commentary sort of reframes how we've come to
understand him a bit, would you agree.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I still don't think he's a good director, but
I think I understand him more as a person and
where he was coming from in terms of how he
fell into this business and how he kind of ungraciously left.
So yeah, that was that was a Yeah, that was
a good That was like a nice little wake up
call that, like love Dave Friedman, not everything he says
is gonna be. His version of events is not the
absolute version of events necessarily, so you know, that's why
additional research is always helpful. Love Dave, but it was
good to get some additional context.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agreed. We've also got a letter, not a letter.
We got an email from a listener who felt.
Speaker 7: Like, oh, we're getting physical letters, like people are sending
us letters.
Speaker 2: You should see my desk. They're piled up over.
Speaker 7: Here but on your red wig and just read letter
after letter.
Speaker 3: But this listener, his name is Oliver. He wrote in
and said, after listening to our commentary track for The
Sex Blaters, now available from keen O Laurburg, you know cult.
He noted that besides actress Janine Lennon. Besides appearing as
a brief role in sex Platers and of course the
star of Anton Holden's Aroused, she also has a small
part in Joe Sarno's Moonlighting Wives, as quote the accountant
who gets manipulated by her crush, and he goes on
to say, interestingly, in all three of these roles, Janine
Lennon plays a lesbian. She seems like a wonderful actress
and a cut above the exploitation standard. It makes me
wonder if she has other extant work, but so far
I haven't seen it. Thanks for all the work you're doing,
and he ends with will you do an episode? Onna
roused at some point as we, I mean, we've kind
of talked about doing one for a while here, but
I know that we want to talk to Anton Holden first,
right Casey, that might.
Speaker 7: Be the excuse to do it. I think my hesitation
was that I'm waiting for the Blu Ray. I would
love the Blu Ray to come out, and then that
could kind of speak for itself in terms of the history,
because I know, I think actually Bruce from Cinema Arkana,
who I've known forever, and I love Bruce. I think
Bruce was trying to get that Anton commentary for that release,
but I don't know if that has happened. I don't
know what the status is of that release. That is
a slam dunk, So you know, I think it would
be good to do that interview, especially because Anton, I believe,
is like in his early nineties at this point. So
it would be good to do that. And thank you Oliver,
because I have not seen Moonlining Wives in a while.
Speaker 2: And no, I don't remember her in that either. I
need to go back.
Speaker 7: No, I'm gonna have to rewatch. That means it's also
our only color film that we're aware of, and that
just goes to show and I think we kind of
keep mentioning this. It's like, this is not it's not
a proprietary Our podcast is not proprietary. We're not We're
not the end all of his exploitation history. It really
is very much a community project. So having multiple eyes
on these films and the people who make them is great.
And this is why because yeah, I said in that commentary,
I think it's the only other movie outside of Aroused.
I don't mind being being corrected. I actually prefer it
because I would like the record to be correct.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so long answer is short.
Speaker 3: You know, we've discussed, but we are kind of putting
it off just in case a blu ray gets announced
and then we can really put all of our research
into and interviews possibly with Anton in that place.
Speaker 7: Well, I don't know if it's done yet. I mean,
that's the thing. They could have everything they need and
it's just being held out, So we'll look into that.
It is a masterpiece.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We also got an email from Nathan Schiff, who was
very helpful in helping his Joseph Marzano research, which we
referenced in our last episode.
Speaker 7: Crazy, Yeah, really crazy.
Speaker 3: He's been listening and he listened to our Marsano episode
and you know, I'm not going to read his email here,
but yeah, we have touch base with him and hopefully
we can get him on either to talk about more
Marzano stuff, which I mean there's like you said, Casey,
there's there's plenty more.
Speaker 2: To touch on with regard to that character.
Speaker 3: But also Nathan has some connection some history with Lou Walduck,
Lou Waldeck yep so and Lou Campus. So yeah, there's
lots of things we could talk with Nathan about.
Speaker 7: So yeah, I'm I think any it's kind of like
what we did with Bowen, where we where we thought
to do a specific film. When you have somebody who
has that much info about a specific person, just stick
with the person. I think we should just do a
follow up with Nathan and I will just say, Nathan,
he mentioned he was a regular listener. We need your
movies on Blue Racer. It's been quite a while all
the all the end, this stuff is long out of print,
and I just checked how much they go for. I
don't have that kind of scratch. So let's let's let's
see if we can maybe get in touch with Visual
Vengeance or something or Bleeding Skull you know, believe would
be good too. Yeah, somebody yes, because I feel like, yeah,
I think we need we those writ my Flesh back.
We need Yeah, we need all of those back in
print and available. So if we have you on, I
will bring that up. This is a warning, but the
good great to know more about Joe because I think,
as we mentioned last week, I think he was kind
of he didn't last in this expectation because I don't
think he was made for this business. I think he
had a very different temperament than other people, you know,
than you need to be in this business. So I'd
like to know more about that. He also mentions that
he's seen his earlier shorts, and so I want to
know about Barbara. I want to know about Barbara Ellen. Yeah,
I want to know more about what Lou Waldeck, who
Marzano has has said is the true director of cool
at Baby. If anyone's going to get credited, should be Lou,
not him, or not lu Campa. So uh, yeah, I
have a lot of questions, and I would love to
do a follow up just I'll just Marzana, because we
barely scratch the surface on Marzano. There's so much to
talk about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he said he's also seen that two hour
feature film you made, Man Outside.
Speaker 2: I'd like to pick his brain about as well.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, I would. Well, yeah, and that that's one of
those things where I don't know who has prints or
tapes of those. It makes you be if someone could
wrestle all of those those three films away from the
Novaks and put out a Mars like a Marzano slash
lu Campa collection, and just put all of the Marzano
stuff together and in a nice package. That would be great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love that.
Speaker 7: I think he deserves it.
Speaker 3: Mazon, you got the John williebooks. You got several John
williebooks in the mail I did.
Speaker 7: I got two. I didn't know and I didn't know
there was two. One one is a lot more. Well,
First of all, James is gorgeous. This thing is, like you,
absolutely stunning. It's really gorgeous. The design is great, her
writing is great. It really flows really beautifully. No, it's
really good.
Speaker 1: I loved it.
Speaker 7: But then there was another book by the the fat
History guy who we've referenced before in I think the
Satan and I Heels episode, and that is it's a
thicker book, but there's a lot more pictures and things,
and I feel like there's a Yeah, so I'm interested
to read both, obviously because I'd like a larger picture
of the guy. But I'm excited. I think it's always
a good opportunity to get more people talking about this,
about someone as important as this.
Speaker 2: So you also got something else in the mail?
Speaker 9: Did?
Speaker 7: I got Mark Murray's the new release Endless Ecstasy Volume
one title I did so yes, and an update a
correction to that because I went back to the chat.
So I came up with the title Endless Ecstasy, and
he transformed it into the triple X instead of the
sea in Ecstasy. So he finessed it and made he
finessed it and added the extra touch that it needed
for sure. And I think he was just on disconnected
on Friday, which.
Speaker 2: I had missed live show Yeah, I need to catch.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I couldn't see it because I was having
dinner with another historian for another release which we're working on.
So but the release is fantastic. Obviously, it's limited to
five hundred copies. It has Don Knutson on the cover,
who I love, and I have never seen her work
look so good as it does in this. She has
as a loop with Mike Ranger and he closes out
the collection with it, so it's like saves kind of
the best for last. There's a very early Gloria Leonard
loop with Jamie Gillis. There's a very early Mary Stewart
loop the Star Passenger Carol and she's in a terrible wig.
There's a long Don Silver loop, which is obviously softcore
because it's long Don Silver. It was it was the
biggest special effect in porn ever. Yeah, it's just it's
a really good collection. It covers a lot of stuff.
There's a so there's solo there's a solo loop, there's
a lesbian loop, there's group loops. There's an enema loop,
which is wild. It's Yeah, it really covers so much,
so much different stuff in loops and it's one of
a series and it's only five hundred copies, so I'm
excited for the next one. The Serena one is being
teased now, so we need to kind of figure out
when we'll have Mark on to promote that and talk
about Serena. That would be great.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, we'll get that on the books because yeah, I
want to talk about Serena's softcorese exploitations.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well actually in Serena, I'm not going to promise anything.
We could possibly even try to see if we could
do a little interview with her, Yeah, because she's open.
I interviewed her for the Phantasm release, so yeah, Marks
with her and yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be good
if we could, even if it's just a little thing
where if if we're doing like Massa's Parlor Wife, Yes,
maybe could get something of what she remembers about it exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be great, Yeah.
Speaker 7: Because I don't know where else she's going to talk
about it, because no vac is old in Austine.
Speaker 3: So and Mark, I'm still very apologetic. On that other
social media site, I accidentally credited Serena as Seika. I
am still absolutely horrified at my mistake. I know correct
he corrected me, but I can't edit on that other site.
I'm not gonna name that I sometimes also use, you know,
So I'm like, I just got to leave it up
because people are enjoying that. But he corrected it underneath,
so I'm like, well, at least people can read it,
and then they'll see Mark's comment underneath, like, hey.
Speaker 7: Idiot, this is yeah right, and you didn't you didn't.
Speaker 2: I'm just like, you know, I'm just hitting the esca.
Speaker 3: I'm just hitting the s key and then the wrong
suh you know name came out.
Speaker 2: You know, damn, that's what you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: That's funny. I'm too deep into adult films. I would
never screw them up because Seka I could care less.
Serena sign me up every day? Yeah, and Sekah also, Yeah,
Sekah and I are not aligned politically, so I don't
even follow her, and I'm not even friends with her
on any of these things. I could care less. Yeah,
Serena love her to the moon back. So yeah, but
I get it because it is begins the ns ends
of an A. Both of those names, thank you.
Speaker 9: It is a.
Speaker 7: It's not it's not an out of the it's not
an out of the realm of possibility. To make that mistake.
They were both in Heavenly Desire, which is not good.
But you know, to jock Off Jacobe movie.
Speaker 3: Did they bill it as like the two meeting of
the you know, singularly named s points.
Speaker 7: Uh No, by that point, I don't think Sega was
that established yet. It was like seventy nine, so I
think it was around the time she was in like
Lesser First Bite she was establishing herself and h Serena had.
I think Serena was kind of establishing herself too, So
they're both kind of not newcomers. But actually Serena had
been around a while longer. But yeah, not a good movie.
Speaker 3: Well, we will bring on the club super eight boys
here in a moment, there is there's the rock star
we were just talking about.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm a bit worse for where today.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 9: It was something we uh, it's the first time ever
I've been actually playing two nights in a.
Speaker 7: Row, saying yourself here.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah we yesterday. We were so relieved. So everyone
started partying hard after the gig.
Speaker 7: That's great.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was a big deal. It's a band that
they haven't played together for forty years.
Speaker 7: Oh wow, okay, so it's a.
Speaker 9: Reunion and we're gonna do an outdoors rock festival in July.
Speaker 5: Nice.
Speaker 9: Oh that's cool. Okay, this was like the dress rehearsal
for that.
Speaker 2: Basically, Wow, remind us what you play record.
Speaker 9: I'm I'm the bass player doing some background vocals as well.
But yeah, it was, it was. It was a success
and lots of people. And the thing is that the
guitar player is a guy called Mapp who plays in
Candle Mass, which is the biggest doom metal band in Sweden.
Speaker 2: Yep, I've heard of them.
Speaker 9: Wow okay, yeah, so he and they're touring the world.
But this is like his hobby project now away from
the Work project, which is the other band.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like the Fun the Fun project on
the side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, maybe you guys want to briefly explain.
Speaker 3: I don't know your history with film, how you guys
started up Club super eight and maybe even touch on Coldpicks.
I mean, you guys are kind of a media empire
right now at this point.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and you know we're also in you know, a book,
book publishers, and a record label.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly of those out Well, basically me.
Speaker 9: And Patrick are the two partners of Club super eight
and Culpicks. So other people are helping out, but we
are the nucleus of it, of it all.
Speaker 7: How long have you guys been doing that? How long
have you guys been working together?
Speaker 9: Well, Patrick, you want to tell how we met?
Speaker 8: Sure, I'm kind of Batman. Sorry, I'm Robin and he's Batman.
Club super right, I think twenty five years ago. So
the history of it is that it started out showing
midnight films, you know, just imprompted screenings on Super eight,
and hence how the name was created. And then from
screening those films, started buying up film copies of films
and then thinking, hey, people really like this, maybe we
should do something about it, put them out on vhs
because that's how long ago it was, and in doing so,
suddenly we hear from the rights holder who we didn't
realize was alive. He'd long ago left the film industry
to pursue a much more lucrative career in real estate,
and he kind of had this weird notion that he
should get paid for the films that we were publishing.
I mean, record was the one that spoke to him.
Speaker 9: Yeah. The other thing is that we were actually inspired
and that's really really true. The big mentors of are
releasing films. I mean, we were a film club for
a long time. But we did two film festivals with
Mike and Lisa from Something Weird in back in ninety
eight and ninety nine, and they brought sixteen milimeters prints
and you know, those mom and Dad books and the
posters and stuff, and that was really successful. They wanted
to get in touch with the producer of Tara in
the Midnight Sun, and we got them together and after that,
after that second festival, we were like, if they can
do this, we could do it in Sweden and should
specialize in Swedish exploitation movies. So I guess we started out.
I believe the first VHS releases came out already in
ninety nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so something weird.
Speaker 3: They've been doing it for a few years before you guys,
and then sounds like you just took some inspiration from them.
Speaker 9: Sure for quite some time. I think they had been
up and running for like five years or at least.
But we got, you know, the brother from another mother
relationship with and we're I mean we were really really
close and we were very very much inspired by you
know what Mike started. So I think the first films
we did were Anita. I think it was the Language
of Love and the Tarror or in the Midnight Sun.
I don't remember what order. So, but as Patrick said,
is what VHS from the start?
Speaker 3: Let me ask you guys both, you know, what was
your first Swedish sex or sin film that you saw
like growing up? Can you remember?
Speaker 9: Patrick?
Speaker 8: I think it probably would have been something on VHS.
But you got to realize Sweden was such a liberal society.
They were showing live births on television. So the former
leader of the Swedish Communist Party, a woman she prior
to becoming this, you know, she actually participated in documentary
which was shown on television of going through the whole
stages of what it's like to give a life. So
It's always been there, whether it's you know, in the
background or in cinemas or on video. It's been part
of our culture. We've grown up with it, and so
it wasn't like that when sneak out and sneak into
the cinema. For us, it was more I could see
a really super violent film that isn't allowed to be
released on VHS and we pass it around the schoolyard.
So sex, yeah, no big deal. But you know, a
kung fu film with nunchukas or something else like that,
that's where the real forbidden stuff was.
Speaker 9: It's true. But for me, as I'm so much older
than Patrick, it was actually theatrical screenings. And I think
the first one I would say was a film that
we only released on DVD. We in English we call
it I a Summer Lover, but it stars Stellan Scarscard,
so it's about the same time as Anita was out.
He did it. Actually did three exploitation films. A lot
of people don't know that, and especially the third one,
which we only found the British softcore VHS version of
Call the Intruders. He plays with only hardcore porn actors
in that one, so I'm pretty sure there's a hard
version out there, maybe Stellan swinging his privates. Maybe it's possible.
Speaker 7: It's possible, yeah, because I know that, because I know,
like didn't didn't Wickman brought over Chris Chittle from London
to do practice It's Perfect, and he does hardcore in
that too. He must have been very he must have
been very persuasively.
Speaker 9: And Jacqueline Laurent, who is in Practice makes Perfect, she's
also in The Intruders. So yeah, I'm pretty sure. But
that was the Swedish one, but that was I mean,
the the Io Summer Lover is a very soft film.
But I remember also watching in the Sign of the Turus,
I think one of the Danish porn films that came
after the Bedside films. So you know, you the bed
Side films were softcore, and then you had the all
of these Sign Star Sign films.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the Zodiac films, the Zodiac films, and.
Speaker 9: I remember we were like thirteen or something and old
guys were like kneeling going out of the cinema with
hard ons because it was hardcore. So it was like
a formative experience for sure.
Speaker 7: I think like the those films also kind of not
exactly promoted as family films, but they were definitely something
is where were they were not promoted as shamefully as
like American films, where it was kind of like they
were these Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9: No, they were shown in in mainstream movie theaters for sure,
and also in the countryside. We just learned recently that
Monday night was porn night and they did hardcore. I
mean they did all the the US and German and
French hardcore films as well, I mean apart from the
Swedish ones. So that was the thing for sure. But
as Patrick says, in Sweden, porn was or nudity was
never censored basically, And I mean you can go as
long back as you know, a Witchcraft through the Ages
from like nineteen twenty eight or something, and there's nudity
in that one, and it kept recurring through Swedish film
mystery up to one Summer of Happiness in nineteen fifty one,
you know, the Onomapson film that really took off and
that became the starting point for Swedish sin as it
was you know termed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's that essay that's on the Roman Pornos set
that you guys did from Johann north Strom, Yeah, talks
about he gives such great background, especially to US Westerners
that you know the context of Sweden it was in then.
You know that you guys were in the news all
the time as being so permissive, and it was like clearly,
you know, Japan is sending cruise over there to make
Swedish themed pornos that they can sell in their home
country because they're not getting.
Speaker 9: Enough Sweden, and the Swedish industry was too small. We
couldn't we couldn't manufacture enough movies. But I think actually
even I think it was your President Eisenhower that said
something about Sweden and sin and how social reform and
you know, these all these concepts of equality and everything
should be paid with taxes and stuff like that. That
was like that made us like perverted somehow.
Speaker 7: Sounds like Eisenhower. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Have you guys ever heard of a singer named Jens Leckmann.
Speaker 9: He's a Swedish Yeah, yeah, of course, yes, Yeah, he.
Speaker 3: Has that song where he's like, when people think of Sweden,
I think they have the wrong idea, Like Cliff Richards
who thought it was just porn in Gonorrhea and Lou
Reed said in the film Blue in the Face that
compared to New York City, Sweden was a scary place.
So that's like kind of you know, that's funny the
image of Sweden for a while there. I think people forget,
you know, what was going on there in Oh it's.
Speaker 9: True, and Swedes today don't you know, they don't have
the history of it. How big that was. But also
what a short time period it was. It was basically okay,
it started in fifty one and then Bergmann did you
know Summer with Monica That became Monica The Story of
a Bad Girl in the US in fifty three. But
I think the starting point was really The Language of
Love in nineteen sixty nine, and then it went on
only until seventy six or seventy seven when hardcore came on,
and then America and Germany and France grinded out so
many films that Sweden just gave in, gave up, but
for a short while, and this is about one hundred
films I would say could fit into that kind of genre.
Speaker 8: And it's the fact that it was a global You're right,
there was a perception of Sweden and it was a
global one. There was the Japanese who said film cruise
because to churn out fake Swedish you know, Erotica, the
Americans and then even on the continent, which you think
be more permissive being European. But one of our favorite
films is a Switch in Fermer Paradiso Sweden Heaven and Hell,
this Italian mondo exploitation film that treats Sweden like they
would do with you know, the weird tribes of the
Amazon in Africa and all their peculiarities of you know,
sister brother marriage is you know, rapes and sex education,
sex education.
Speaker 7: Yes, sex tea.
Speaker 3: What are they doing in teaching sex education or mandatory?
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 9: I got a great story about Sweden Heaven and Hell.
We did a theatrical screening of it many years ago,
and a woman called me and said, I think I'm
in that movie and I'm like, what do you what
do you mean think? Well, there was some my Italians
here and they wanted me to do something. I was
sixteen years old, and I said, well, you you're getting
your complimentary ticket of course, come tonight. And sure enough
there's one scene whether you have the uh you know,
you like I have a priest who is around the clock,
prepared on his phone if people call him up and
are you know, feeling bad, and and she calls him
up from a phone booth being suicidal, and the next
scene she's lying under a bridge with her neck broken.
She's jumped off the bridge, and it was that woman.
Speaker 2: Oh I remember that. Yeah, fun, it's wild.
Speaker 7: I feel like that's another like stereotype. It's either is
either Sweden is so sexually permissive or Sweden is like
there's a lot of a lot of mental health issues
because of like the lack of the sun or or whatever.
And so it's like I feel like one is definitely
better than the other. I would much rather be the
sexually permissive and not not the not the mental health issue.
But but I did wonder so at one point did
America start in on this? I think, for from this
exploitation point of view, I always think it's inga because
then you know, because and then Sarno kept going back
to Sweden and doing that. But you mentioned Monica, But
that seems like an outlier it because that was in
like fifty that was in the late.
Speaker 9: Fifty six three yeah, yeah, yeah, but it just the
six for.
Speaker 7: The American mindset until way later.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think I think the two Inga films for sure,
but also one of my favorites A Woman Yes, which
was from sixty five. It was basically a Danish film
but with the Swedish actors and the Swedish director. But
that definitely started it at all. And also the two
sequels were also very big in the US. And I
don't know if you know got you guys know that
I wrote a book book, a big coffee table book
with Swedish exploitation posters called do you Believe in Swedish sin?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 9: Okay, good, I still need it.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna I'm adding it to my next order.
Speaker 3: We have.
Speaker 9: We have to fix that. But there there's actually one.
I mean, most of the films are from that era
and and they're all posted from my own collection. But
there also also a whole chapter about international films where
they used the word Sweden as a lure. They had
nothing to do with Sweden, but they used Sweden or
Swedish or any any language version of the word Sweden
to hint at Okay, this is going to be dirty,
so let's call it that. You know, like Swedish fly
Girls and fidelity Swedish style, and those films have nothing
to do with Sweden at all, right, No, No, Swedish
were integrate impregnated in those movies?
Speaker 7: No, No, Well that and then I think wasn't. Well
we'll talk about so Big Anderson later. But I think
Ava was released in America Swedish and underage. I think
that was the kind of you know, they would just
name anything Sweden or Swedish. Yeah, because there's an American
movie called Love Swedish Style, which is about like a
Swedish au pair or whatever, and it's like she's not
even she's not played by Swedish actress either. So it's
very interesting how it took. It was either Sweden or Denmark.
And I made that mistake in our conversation where I thought,
without a stitch was Swedish. And so I feel like
maybe that's part of that American concept. Is that like
just just Scandinavia combined.
Speaker 9: Is yeah, yeah, and really bad geography education in the
American schools. I would I would say, yes, but that's
a thing, you know, you know, with a touch of
Sweden with Ushi Degart. Ushi Degart is from fucking Switzerland
and not Sweden.
Speaker 7: Exactly exactly. Well, she also was cast as like German,
French or yeah, like her that that accent if two
American audiences could be anything. Yeah, it's just it's just
it's just laziness about the filmmaker's part. It's like, you
sound international. We're going to say you're from all these
different countries, is right.
Speaker 9: It's a bit like Mark Sponsido who played all these
German officers or whatever.
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, and stealin Star's Guard. Actually he gets castes
Italian a lot too. It's it's just like okay, right, right, right, you.
Speaker 2: Try to warn me them, and I still loved you
when you said.
Speaker 7: The words, But I good.
Speaker 3: Really I want to jump back to Sweden, Heaven or
Hell because I know, you know, when we first started talking,
I was like, hey, maybe we'll focus on that film,
and then we're like, no, that's stupid. We we don't
want to talk about a bunch of other stuff. But
I'd love to see that one get a nice restoration
and cleaned up and have all the have all the
language options on there, because I know that there is
the Italian version with is it Enrico Salerno doing the
narration on that?
Speaker 9: I think so yeah, I think so. And the American
one is someone really famous, isn't it doing.
Speaker 7: The niche Yeah, Edmund, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 9: And we also have the Spanish voiceover for it.
Speaker 3: Oh there's this, okay there.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but we have good news for you. We're gonna
do a release on Blu Ray in cooperation with Pulse
Store in France.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Paul.
Speaker 9: It's great love that it's been in the works for
some time now, and also that actually it's synchronized with
a book A good friend of ours in Sweden, don
It by Alonso is writing a whole book on the
subject of Sweden, Heaven and Hell and his and his
idea about it is to check which of the stories
are true and which are false in the film. Okay,
but then he dove into the rabbit hole. So now
the book is about Scandinavian Mondo movies, so Italian movies
about different Scandinavian countries.
Speaker 7: Mm hmm. That's great. Yeah, I will buy that immediately.
Speaker 9: Yeah myself. Yeah, we might do them as a joint release,
the book and the Blu Ray.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I don't have a timeline for it, but we are definitely.
It's definitely happening.
Speaker 3: Well, of course there's also that Piero Umlani soundtrack that
goes with it.
Speaker 2: Maybe they could put a.
Speaker 9: CDE along with that, that would be cool, ye book
or the film love the music that and and that
whole tie in with Manamana is so funny yea.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean everybody knows. I mean people that
don't even know mondo movies or sexploitation they know that song.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so crazy.
Speaker 8: I was literally at a concert on Friday by a
close harmony trio called the Penis Sisters, and they were
doing Phenomena and I was literally nudging spouse saying, that's
our song. That's our song. It's not the mop A song,
it's ours. Yes, Sweden having an hell song?
Speaker 7: Yes, well that was always and it's interesting that's always
And I feel like that's kind of like it's kind
of become like lore. Whenever people hear that song here
now it's like, well, you know, this is really from
a porno movie, and it's like you haven't seen you
obviously have not seen this movie. It is not a
porno movie. Yeah, I know, it's like you're you're halfway there,
but not really.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's soundtracks a scene with like young girls running
out of a sauna.
Speaker 9: Great, but you know there's a funny there's a funny
tie in there with with the with the Inga films.
But is in a small cameo part in Sweden having an.
Speaker 2: Help Yeah, the teddy boys.
Speaker 9: Yeah, she's the one hunted by the bikers and being raped.
And I don't think she's in the credits even.
Speaker 8: And the other music angle, which we haven't ex Floyd Togello,
we should push for it again, is of course the
Abba connection.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, with the Inga films.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I listened to the theme song from
Seduction of Inga maybe twice a week, so I love that.
I love that song so much. I don't care that
it doesn't have words. This it's really good mood music.
And she's that kind of girl is great too, that
song from that film too.
Speaker 9: Yeah. I mean you know what, Bjorn and Benni made
the music for two and that era. They they composed
the music to the English language version of the Language
of Love, because there are two movies they were made
back to back in nineteen sixty nine, first one with
the Swedish dialogue and then all the sexologists speak English.
In the in the second one, so they're not dubbed,
and that was called The Language of Love, and the
credits when it opens is a song by Bjorn and
Bennie called the Language of Love.
Speaker 7: Wow, I forgot about that. I have that Blu Ray too,
and I've totally forgot about that.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, we have that as a bonus.
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh, I need to revisit that. Yeah, because I
remember when you guys jumped into the Blu Ray pool
and I snapped those up immediately. I was like, oh
my god, Language of Love and more about the Language
of Love. And then the the other one was it
wasn't The Lustful Vicar. It was Kirka here.
Speaker 9: Now, yeah, that's the Lustful Victor.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe it was that then,
so yeah, and then the Terror in the Midnight Sun
and yeah, I was like, Okay, this is great. We're
gonna get more of the stuff on Blu Ray. And
then I had no idea how far you guys were
going to go. It's so exciting. Every time there's a
new announcement, I get more and more excited.
Speaker 9: But it took us five years from those four films
until well April Maine last year. But over the last
year we've actually released sixteen films.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys have been going crazy.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and we're so happy about the cooperation with OCN
in the States because I think like every second film
we are releasing together with them, and then for some
like the Nikatsu Box and for Sex and Fury, we
only have the Scandinavian rights, so we can't release them stateside,
but as much as we can, we we love to
do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people can still find them, you know, and they can.
Speaker 9: Still order them, so I've heard find a way.
Speaker 3: Yes, are we supposed to be Are we supposed to
have them?
Speaker 7: I said it on a previous podcast. I like ordering
directly from you guys, but I like that the OCN
is an option. I just because there's some I like
going to the closed Super eight website and I like
doing that, so that's just me.
Speaker 9: Of course, you know, the postage is kind of expensive,
you know.
Speaker 7: I know, I misster money bags apparently I can. I
don't mind spending it because I know it's coming directly
from you guys.
Speaker 9: So that's great. And when we have the T shirts
of course, yes.
Speaker 7: Yes, which actually I need to order one of those too.
It's going to be a big order guys, my my
next one.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, but it blows our mind. And again singing
the pace of OCM because they've been such a great partner.
We just had no idea going into this because when
we restarted the Blu ray releases, we were focused on
Christina Lindberg. It was the year of Kristina Lindberg. She
had a big birthday. We won't put a number on it,
but it was very special. She is truly timeless, yes, yeah,
and she's coming to can this year. I mean we
have to mention that bit later on. Yeah, all these
films with her and then all the other stuff we
loved in our back catalog, and it just blows her
mind the things that sell out like that, you know,
within hours of going on pre release with OCN. And
we're just hugely grateful for the fact that there are
people out there who appreciate these obscure films like the
Swedish Fear Has a Thousand Eyes or Sent to a Sorceress,
which I would not think had any kind of traction
outside of even in Sweden, never mind outside of Sweden,
and yet it finds an audience mind blowing.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and they've actually sold out both the special version
and the standard version of it completely. I mean, but
that's it's sex and it's horror. That's a great combo
by the film like the Doll, I mean black and
white artie as fucked from nineteen sixty one and sold
like fifteen hundred copies. It's kind of amazing, I think.
But the most amazing thing is that anyone bought the Bleeder.
Speaker 7: Okay, you forgetting about the Bleeder horror because you know why,
because horror passes my eyes more than the sex stuff.
But I forgot this is that one.
Speaker 9: But this is so this is so funny. I mean,
this is a made on video film shot on you
maatic in nineteen eighty two. It looks like shit. It's
super amateurish. It's very charming, it's lovely, and we know
the director and he kept everything, everything from the shoes,
so there's like tons and tones and tons of special
features on it. And I think we sold fifteen h
undred of those in the in the US, and we
get good reviews for it. And I talked to Justin
a O and I said, are you sure you want
to release this? You know it looks I mean even
if we release it on Blu Ray, even if we
did any kind of restoration or line doubling we could do,
is still going to look like shit. And he said, yeah, yeah,
we're so used to releasing those kind of films, no
problem at all.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well there it.
Speaker 3: Helps that you guys, like you said, you have all
that context in the bonus features, So I know, you know,
speaking for myself and Casey probably as well, you know
that that's that's what helps sell it just as much
as the film, because I know I'm going to get
all that information and stuff you can't find anywhere else.
Speaker 9: It's true, and that's super important to us. And that
also very important in terms of cult peace. If we
talked a little bit about that our streaming platform that's
actually in it's it's the fifth anniversary. Now, I think, wow, guys,
but we I mean, we have uploaded two thousand films.
We work with more than fifty rights holders, and I
think Patrick, did we do eighty seven podcasts for Kalpix Radio?
Did we do eighty seven podcasts or something? Yeah? And
that's also about contextualization, talking about the times they were
made and you know, all of those things that makes
it more fun but also more understandable for a modern audience.
Speaker 2: With Colpicks, you know, something like the Doll.
Speaker 3: You know you've restored that, you've released that nice home
video release, but the version that's on Culpicks is still
the older.
Speaker 9: Version, right, not the restored version.
Speaker 2: Is that a rights issue or do you plan?
Speaker 9: Now it's a conscious decision. We want to exploit it
physically before we release it on the culpis. And it's
the same the Knie cuts of films will all be
up on Colpis.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was going to ask that.
Speaker 9: As well eventually, but for the moment, and it's the
same with a coumblow of the Horn. We also have
the old version on Coalpix.
Speaker 3: So you want to let those nice VERSI kind of
breathe for a bit right before.
Speaker 8: Stored version. We're bringing up this summer that's going to
be Anita, which is wonderful.
Speaker 3: So that's a perfect one because that's sold out so fast, right,
that's the one that Yeah.
Speaker 9: And also with Anita, we were so blown away and
that was actually Joe Rubin who found the French version
of it.
Speaker 7: Right, that's such a great extra version.
Speaker 9: And it's so different and there's so much more of Christina.
Speaker 7: Hit it, Yes, and there's a lot more male nudity too,
which some of us like seeing too. So I was like, wow,
a lot of it.
Speaker 9: It has a lot going for it. And also the
funny fact that that Torniviktiman, the director, wanted to do
an arty movie with flashbacks and flash forwards and dream
sequences and whatnot, and the French they just edited it,
you know, on a timeline right right.
Speaker 7: I don't mind that though. I like that both versions
are there so you can see what his intentions were.
And then it still works in that export version. I mean,
it could have been way worse. They could have added
hardcore inserts, they could have you know, they could have
cut way more out than they did. It still flows.
That narrative still works really well in that French version,
and she and her performance is untouched too, so that
makes it good too. You can still see how good
she is in it, you know.
Speaker 8: But it's the earlier point of this isn't just the
best restored master that we have is everything we have
about I mean, we literally throw everything in the kitchen
sink at all the Blu ray releases, and then we'll
create some more material, but it's the multiple international releases,
even for something like Fear has a Thousand Eyes, which
you wouldn't think need a different cut, But we discovered
writing and there was things that obviously it just blows
our mind and these are our films and we had
no idea about this. So yeah.
Speaker 9: Also another thing that has been very very useful for us,
and we didn't really realize that when we started out.
We have collected so much paper, so many posters, so
much you know, press books and all kinds of stuff. Photos,
original photos, We have original screenplays, even I mean even
on most of the Nikotso films we have the Japanese screenplay.
So we really want to throw it all in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what you did for those releases, Yeah, I noticed
you have the slideshow of the scripts on there, which
was nice.
Speaker 9: And also that we found the original screenplay for Comblow
the Horn, Joe Sarno's film, and that's now become an
interesting issue about that. I don't know if you heard
the story that the Royal Dramatic Theater in Stockholm have
a play called Fabuenton, which is the original name of
the film.
Speaker 2: The same story.
Speaker 9: No, no, it's I would say it's based on the
idea of the film. It's more of a performance in
like in an old seventies style. But there are three
girls women and they do undress at the end. There
there are sausages, but they're in their fridge.
Speaker 7: Okay, right, yeah, no, that was like the sausage right right, yeah,
that was a thing from Silvery when wet he started
using sausage, right yep.
Speaker 9: And and also we you know, we do have his
recipe for the sausage in the oven on the blu
rays cover. Oh my god, on the reversib on the
reversible side of the cover. You have the recipe, so
you can do his special recipe.
Speaker 7: That's amazing, Okay.
Speaker 9: But the funny thing about the screenplay is that a
friend of ours is a very well known publisher. He
wrote a big essay in one of the newspapers in
Sweden that he believes that the screenplay was not written
by Joe Sarno himself, but from the Swedish poet an
Madi Bardi lund a Woman, because it's so literary, it's
so it has such so many references in it, and
he didn't know Swedish. So the Swedish language script is
really elaborate and detailed and speaking of you had one
one question. We saw a little of your ideas of
what we should talk about today, and you asked if
there are any more Swedish female actresses that you should
be aware of internationally. And Marie Bailund is the only
woman who was also a porn director and screenwriter and
did the lead role herself, wow, in the film week
End in Stockholm, So she was involved. And that was
the same production company as Comblo The Horn. So there
are a lot of leads that says it could be her,
but there's no one to ask. Everyone's dead now.
Speaker 8: So and she went on to greater things than that,
or well, greater things, but you know, more cultural things
than that. Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah. She became one of Sweden's most famous women poets,
with lots of awards and stuff, and no one talked
about her involvement in a porn movie from nineteen seventy
seven or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how I know that name. I was like,
I've seen this name before, yeah, in.
Speaker 9: Interesting and it's her butt on the poster.
Speaker 7: Oh well we can do you well, might be seen
Weekend with Stockholm get restored or reissued we have.
Speaker 9: I mean, we have all the rights and in terms
of other films that we released on DVD, uh, it's
it's more a matter of financing the restoration than anything else.
We have the rights. We are in a very lucky
position that the Swedish Film Institute is now restoring films
that we own. And long story short, they have a
they have a mission from the Swedish government that they
should restore everything. They have a bunch of money, of
taxpayers money. Obviously they started out with Imar Bergmann, and
then it was Jan Truel, it was Boovid by Crosstreum Steeler.
Speaker 3: The two of the bottom of the barrel, the stuff
that we want, and.
Speaker 9: Then they did all the female directors because it's a
it's a feminist thing, and all children's films. And then
they have to reach in the bottom drawer to find
more stuff to restore, and that's where we.
Speaker 3: Wow, am I understanding this? So they're restoring stuff without
you asking.
Speaker 9: Like yeah, no, no, there's a wish list. So we
we get an email from them every year saying what
movie would you like this year?
Speaker 7: Oh? Wow, yeah, it's only in America that would be great.
The Library of Congress or or UCLA or somebody was
doing that. Wow.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but it's it's a true story. So over the
years they've done about ten films and I mean, like
like she heard done, it's a beautiful Augascope film, wonderful
restoration of it, and and the doll recently is the
black and white. I mean, the cinematography is awesome in
that film and it really pops out. And we also
saw I don't know if you've seen the slip cover
of Fear has a thousand eyes mm hm with this
X ray of ribs and an upside down crucifix. We
never saw that in the film before because it was
also blurred, but now it actually was in focus for
the first time thanks.
Speaker 2: To Oh it wasn't censor blurred.
Speaker 9: It was just no, no, no, it was just that
you couldn't see make it out.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 8: In terms of what they will and will not restore,
they did do the Language of Love, and we're very
grateful to them for the great job that they did.
But when it comes to out and out erotica, so
far they've turned us down. So we have a great
ambition to restore the films of mac Alberg and released
on Blu ray, ideally as a box set. And he
is such a fascinating character as directory, you know, first
of all these great films in Sweden and then his
Hollywood career as a director of photography, as a cinematographer,
and just by chance last night I stumped on Netflix
of Bruce Willis film Striking Distance nineteen ninety three. Mac
Alberg shot it. It looks beautiful, it is stunny. Well,
I mean, this is what good films were photographed like.
So we would love to do that. Ain't gonna get
any help from the Swedish films to it. We're just
gonna have to find a way to finance ourselves. Maybe
we do a crowdfunding campaign, or maybe we just say,
you know whatever, We'll just pay for it ourselves and
then hope that there's an audience for it out there,
which are.
Speaker 7: The mac Albergs actually, because it's what is it? It's
second coming of Ava Flossy Mom.
Speaker 9: Justine and Juliet. Oh right, and then it's cold. It's
like School of Scandals or something like that. No, that's
the second time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so that one's great. I love that one. Yeah.
Speaker 9: I think four out of five are based on famous
novels as well. M hm, so there's a theme to it.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he did. He did a Nana adaptation.
Speaker 9: Oh that's right, Yeah, yes, that's right.
Speaker 7: Not my favorite, but it's it looks good, of course, yeah,
it looks good.
Speaker 9: The world with Fanny Hill, which is so so, but
we don't we don't have the rights for those, but
for all the others. As Patrick said, the first producer
we got in touch with it was in e. Vashon,
who had Swedish film productions and film invest and we eventually,
because he was really old by then, we bought everything
he produced outright, so in all media, in the whole university,
in universe, in you know, in perpetuity. So we have
all of those films, both the soft ones and the
sex ed ones and the hardcore ones. So we hope
to release them and as for that, would be great
to release. And I'm a big, big fan of Soulvet's
and as you saw my video essay.
Speaker 7: On her, yes made I was good that you're both
video essays made me cry. I was very emotional. Well
they well because inger story is just so that she
deserves so much more. And yeah, but yeah, so Solvig
is great, and Gentry still has not seen a Solvig
star vehicle, so we're I'm anxious for his thoughts on
the Swedish corno that she did, because she's absolutely incredible
in that.
Speaker 9: That's her best I would say that's her best role.
I like her in a lot of movies, but she's
so gorgeous and she's so good in that one.
Speaker 2: Four yep. I was just telling him I've got the
last two to watch.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and those are the two most expensive ones in
terms of production value, so they look good. And they
were produced by by Nikas the proper and not that
Sowey company but.
Speaker 7: Which is nice too.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they are. And also even the credits are in Swedish,
which I feel is really fun because it always ends,
you know, with the Swedish word for the end, s
l U team each the end. Yeah, that's right, but
they are they are. I mean, Solvay is great and
and and the conversation I had with her over email
when she was so well upset with us releasing her
films because she had to make try to make peace
with God for forty years for those horrible, horrible things
she did. But then she opened up and started talking
about all the great I mean she worked with all
our favorite directors Swedish directors, basically all of them. So
and she started opening up, so we have a kind
of interview with her there of sorts.
Speaker 7: Yeah, which thank you for that, because thank you. Yeah, yeah,
that's I'm glad that we got her thoughts on And
it's so interesting what the ones that she really doesn't remember,
she's like it was quick, and another ones that she
really remembers very vividly. I feel like the tord New
film she remembers the best. But I feel like he
has that effect on people because I see that recurring
with a lot of the people who work with him.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And I think also that in yi Ivashon the producer,
I think he took her under his wings as well.
She was a very confused young woman, obviously looking for
a meaning of life and it happened to be Jesus
Christ at the end. But I think that he was
actually very to her and helped her out a bit.
So that's what I heard anyway. But the thing is
for me to make do both of those video essays
on English Son and Sylvie Anderson is that none of
them were mentioned in the in memorial part of the
National Awards that year when they passed away, And that's
I feel that's very shameful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Is that pretty common though? I mean that's something that
in America we would not expect, like if we like
if Rene Bond died last year, she wouldn't be in
the Academy Awards or anything like that. Is that something
that God forbid we lose Marie Lilia Dahl? Would she
show up in something like that or like or any
of these actresses.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they should should then they could, and they would
because it's such a small industry and has been over
the years. I think that in Evason when he passed
away it was ninety seven actually that he was mentioned
and some others to of course Bill got Herman, you
know with the I'm Curious Yellow those films, but he
was an orange more of an art house director.
Speaker 7: That's a shame. Well, yeah, because I'm waiting, I'm waiting
with baited breath for Gentry's thoughts on on Solvik because
I described her, and Patrick knows, I kind of described
her as like a Spanish or a Swedish solely dub
meat onda. There's something very sad about her, and I
but it makes you, I feel you've become very protective
of her based on that screen persona where yeah, she's
just very compelling and you really just want her to
be okay, you know true was Yeah, that's the closest
comparison I could think of to kind of give Gentry
kind of an idea of why she has silicult following
now because she's not because most people think of the
Swedish actress as they think of the blondes or Christina
and Solveg is a brunette and she's but she's yeah,
I adore her, so yeah, no.
Speaker 9: No, she I think she's she's great. And I mean
she did quite a you know, quite a number. I
think she did like eleven movies or something like that.
But the funny thing, I have her biography autobiography, and
she mentioned her career on one page, her film career
on one page. That's how bad you felt about it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean we run into that, and we
run into that on this side of the pond as well.
Speaker 1: We do.
Speaker 7: Of course, it's hard work. It's hard work, it's hard
work to try. It's well especially I think, well because
of and That's interesting to me because if it's such
a because if Sweden is is that the sweetest culture
is very open about sexuality and nudity and things like that,
American culture is the exact opposite. So I would see
the problems that you had with with Slovak trying to
get her to open up. We encounter that in American
culture all the time, specifically because that's what the culture is.
You're supposed to be ashamed of this stuff and this
stuff you did, So that is like a real uphill
battle with these actresses. So it's interesting that that that
that's a case with Solvig. Has that have you encountered
that with any other actresses where they're.
Speaker 9: Just like, no, we will not do it.
Speaker 5: It's just her.
Speaker 9: Well, it's it's different. I mean, I think that the
comparison is so interesting between Christina Lindbergh, Sylvia Anderson, and
in your Son because Christina obviously she never did hardcore,
and I think that's the basis for her talking about
her career and being happy about it. But she came out,
you know, pretty much alive and safe after her career.
Sylvie Anderson took the you know, the other route of
praise the Lord, and in your son basically became a
prostitute and an alcoholic as far as we've understood, and
we we've read up on it, and Patrick, you have
to tell your story about in your sound What.
Speaker 8: Do you mean about my cousin? Yeah, yeah, I mean
this is shows and Sweden. It's not a small country
north to south. It's it's as long as you know,
the United States is from from Maine to Florida. But
as it happened, my cousin, who lives in the north
of Sweden and is literally a lumberjack, was living next
to Sylvie Anderson in the last years of really and
he visited her house, he had coffee with hers several times.
Since she talked about you mentioned the fact that she'd
actually written an autobiography and nobody's been able to find
it since she died. We're worried that it was just
probably thrown out with a whole bunch of other papers
nobody realized, and that she actually made an account of
her life. But it was sad and that my cousin
tells me that police were called to her house several
times the domestic incidents, and so we just wish there
could have been a way to capture, you know, those
memories and those you know, recollections of her.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, and I love that. There's so much But in
that visual essay when you see it, Gentry, there's so
much footage from Iow Woman three, which I think is
her I think that's her best performance, but she also
almost steals Seduction of inga out from under Maray Liliadohl.
I mean, she was just naturally good, you know. I
don't think that she probably had any kind of acting background.
She just you run into people like that in this
genre where you're just naturally good, you can command the
screen and work with dialogue and become a character she's Yeah.
So that's why that visual Leslie was so emotion I
watched it twice because I had to get it all
out of my system. It was just like, this is
just heartbreaking, but I had to get it all out
because I was just so moved.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I feel you. I felt the same doing it.
There were so many stories and just the fact that
a friend of mine is a really, really great researcher.
He got sixty two pages of police protocols from the
police about her. But she was not the victim. She
was like the perpetrator of different strange things. So it's
it was a very troubled, troubled life, I think, but
it's interesting. And also the whole story that she was
completely misrepresented on the internet. All the information on IMDb
and everywhere was completely wrong. Someone had just picked her
name out of a hat and that's a kind of
a common name, and they took another woman who was
born another year in another town, and it took us
quite a while to figure out who she was. And
then it was two years too late to interview her
because she had already died. And that's the thing. I mean,
we have to we have to get hold of people
and interview them now because time is running out for
so many of them.
Speaker 3: So case Seasons, yeah is pre every week, every week,
every single day.
Speaker 7: All we have a group chat. We're like, okay, we
need to we need to reach the gads. It's well,
someone else I was thinking of who hasn't been interviewed yet,
and I thought that the general consensus was that she
doesn't want to talk is Marie Forsa. I don't know
if you've reached out to her.
Speaker 9: No, we we know the facts. Also about that a
friend of ours. That makes it more difficult. Probably a
friend of ours tried to get hold of her. And
the thing is she married the owner of a golf course,
so we're talking upper class, rich people, and I think
that's probably it. You don't want to be reminded. I
tried to get hold of of Leonna Hilton and from
comblow the horn, but I heard and you can't reach
her on social media. But I sent her a letter
I know where she lives and got no response. And
then a friend of mine said, well, I met her
daughter a few years ago who's into m M A
an MMA fighter, and she said, never ever contact us again.
Speaker 3: Also going to send a daughter after eating knock him.
Speaker 9: Out so he didn't want to fight.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Well, it's also hardcore changes everything, it really does. It's
it over here too, yep.
Speaker 9: Yeah, unless you're.
Speaker 7: Yes, Because she when she is like the great success
story of that where she was able to and I
think she also started to finally work hard so that
she was taken seriously not only in spite of but
because of her past. So it really became like this
is a part of my whole story, and this is
why I'm amazing. I mean, she she worked really hard
to make that work for her, and that takes a
lot of dedication that I think a lot of these
actresses are like. Or I can just not want to
talk about it because it was a part of my
youth and that's easier, you know, Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 9: And I mean we tried to get hold of Britain
Lawson for the Nikatso films and she said, I'm not
interested in talking about that time. But she's an interesting
character because she is Swedish heavyweight heavyweight champion weightlifter now
and god wow. And also she's the widow of Sweden's
most famous rock singer, Jerry Williams. She was married to
him for many, many many years, and very few know
about her other career. So there are also there's also
always all fun stories about these always some science stories,
you know.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 7: Another one of my favorites that I had to bring
up is Sie Person. I don't know if you've Isn't
she an artist now or a photographer of something?
Speaker 1: She?
Speaker 9: I think she became an artist. I think unfortunately it's
too late to interview her because she had a massive strokes.
Speaker 8: Yeah, in terms of people who want to talk about
their past, and who don't want to talk about their past. Uh,
there was an attempt to blackmail Stellan skorscord Or actually
not blackmail but sort of you know, make his past
go away.
Speaker 9: Basically, yeah, and this is a long time ago. I
think this was must have been like in the VHS
era there was a legendary distributor battillionso On at Corona
Film or film Aby Corona, who was the distributor of Anita,
and he came up to Stealin and said, look, Stealan,
I have all the posters, I have the film negative,
and I have all the prints. I can make them
go away if you just pay me some money. And
Stellan's response, according to history, is that you know, as
much as my dog has been hanging around in movies,
I don't care.
Speaker 7: Right, this is the man he waded up doing info
maniac for large space career, Like, I don't think he
cares right, the wrong person to go after.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you that, because I mean what if he
did say, yeah, just destroy that, that's history.
Speaker 2: He just disappeared.
Speaker 9: It's true.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean there might be still prints hanging out,
but this was the negative.
Speaker 2: You're saying, probably.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but as I said talking about German censorship, we
heard a horrifying story the other day. Maybe we should
name names, Patrick, but a company that bought all the
rights for a certain Danish porn company destroyed everything. Oh
because there were underage There were probably animals in some
of them.
Speaker 7: That's true, that's true actually.
Speaker 9: But to destroy the whole library.
Speaker 8: On a more positive note, though we have made French
film history. We've rescued a you know, class that would
have been torched. And again, you know, Rickard is better
at telling the story. Which one was that the one
that the blind is subjected to?
Speaker 9: Oh? Yes, yes, yes, oh, this is such a great story.
We you know, we should talk about that a bit.
We are, apart from you know, having these companies, we
are also big collectors. So we have a warehouse of
one hundred and fifty square meters in a Stockholm suburb
with about five or six thousand film posters, you know,
thirty sixteen milimeter projectors, eight milimeter projectors and three hundred
and fifty feature films on thirty five mil and sixteen
whereof a few really hard to find ones and really
cool one like you know, Hitchhike, the Italian one and
the Seven Minutes, the ross Meyer Fox Movie and among them,
and I don't remember the name now of the French title.
It's in Swedish. It's called like the Secretive Mannequins or
you know, models or something like that. This was a
film that a lot of big national organizations in France
in the seventies said, we have to make an example
of porn, we have to stop porn. So the Scout
movement went in, a lot of you know, the Catholic
Family Association went in, took it to court and had
it forbidden. He had it banned completely, and not only that,
be it that all prints and the negative should be destroyed.
So we have a thirty five millimeter print of that film.
But the funny story is that one of the organizations
that were objecting to it, what's the National Organization for
the Deaf and Blind?
Speaker 7: Why because they couldn't see it.
Speaker 9: I guess, yeah, Like what is the what if they
if they can't if we can't see it, they can't
see I don't know, but it's such a it's such
a weird story, and it's a regular it's.
Speaker 3: A derogatory in there towards the deaf and blind.
Speaker 9: No, No, I don't know. And it's just like your
average poor movie. It has nothing that stands out. Just
they had to set an example.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just yeah, they just got everybody they could,
you know, sign the letter petition?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the petition.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what that sounds like, exactly what So I'm
trying to well, you couldn't say it anyway. I'm thinking
of this company to destroy everything, and I only can
think of color climax, but I don't know if it
was that company it was Yeah, oh you're kidding. Well
they that makes sense. They yeah, yeah, okay, the climax
not great. But that's when you go through stuff and
you have to kind of find you're going to do that,
figure that out. Well, that's the problem. That's the problem.
You don't want to hold anyone morally accountable or legally
accountable to have to go through all that.
Speaker 9: Speaking speaking of which we have, when we started started
out with Cult Picks, we said that we're going to
create our own streaming platform. We will not censor anything.
And as Patrick so aptly has put it in our
fa Q, who decides what what's a cult movie? And
the answer is, we do this is no fucking democracy.
Speaker 7: That's good, that's very good.
Speaker 9: Then I have to admit that we did censor something
because we have the compilation The Golden Age of Day
English Pornography, and you might guess what we had to take.
Speaker 8: The musical.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, it's true. Yeah, it was the other one,
I think.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, I have
I have that as well, and I think it only
exists in that edited version, I believe.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so Boldilliansen is out.
Speaker 7: Yes, that's so interesting. It's so interesting that that people
are still wanting someone to put that out. And I'm like,
first of all, why, Second of all, you know it's
not legal anywhere really, so no, you can't put that out.
And I think actually Vinegar Sentdrome got the they on
the Alex Derenzi Library, and I was worried that they
were going to have elements for Animal Lover and possibly
be we have trouble for even owning it. And I
don't think that Alex Dernsey kept anything from that, which
is good because even owning it is a problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, yeah, Well, I.
Speaker 3: Know you guys have kind of talked about the censorship issues.
You guys have run into with cult picks. But maybe
you guys want to touch on it again. You know,
I know you guys ran into some credit card issue again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you guys are tired of talking about this.
Speaker 8: Tell me no, no, no, no, no, we're not We
don't get to moan enough about it. Infinity now with
you know the Kroger Babs and and our you know, yeah,
great ancestors.
Speaker 3: You're true actually tears now right, Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, this is the modern age. We face it, not
with you know, the moral majority of Reagan, or with
you know, a small town censors. We face with the
big multinational credit cards these in the master cards and
the social media. We're forever getting slapped on, especially by
soccer fucker. You can put up most innocuous poster and
it's like you are not in apliance with matters. Yeah
in terms of regulation, you've been a bad boy.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but we but but it's like three strikes and
you're out. That's the problem. It doesn't matter if they're
right or wrong. If you are you've done it enough times,
you're you're out. So we getting very cautious about nipples,
especially on posters, on on on Blu Ray covers even.
Speaker 8: And we were paying kind of thanks to our great
colleague Callen Christian.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I love him.
Speaker 8: They mentioned, but he's been going viral with his videos
of coumblow the Horn and they don't show anything but
the things they discussed, and that's a very sensuous caressing
of sausages kind of. Eventually we hit one hundred thousand
views and then boom, it's gone.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Crazy. He is great, by the way, because he's another
reason why there's videos I says are great. And I
message him directly and I said, great job, you made
me cry, thank you.
Speaker 9: And he's super happy about that. I can tell you
he loves that. But he's great and we become friends.
Just like a few years ago we started doing trailers
for us and stuff like that, and now he's doing
the editing the video. U s A. She's doing all
the artwork, and it's just beautiful. Like for instance, we're
talking about comblo of the horn on the original poster,
her shirt is a little more open than it is
on the cover, so a little bit of editing there.
Speaker 7: Little tweak. Yes, well, I also noticed there was a
nice little thing with the nyakatsu with the with Solvig.
Speaker 9: You had to cover her up, yes, a little bit,
and then on the on the shrink wrap, on the
shrink wrap.
Speaker 7: And I was like, do I keep this as a
as a as a memento And I was like, no,
I'll let Solveig breathe. I don't need I don't need
to keep that.
Speaker 9: I have people, I know people who put put it
back on on the actual cover.
Speaker 7: I was thinking about it, but I was like, no,
I won't. But I did notice that, and I was like,
this is a nice touch. I thought it was nice.
Speaker 9: It was an American movement free the nipple, right.
Speaker 7: Yes, yes I did. In that spirit, In that spirit,
I let I let her be free. Yes, activity cover.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's great, but no, no, we are very pertious
about it. But going back to that story about payment,
we worked for four years with a major company taking
care of credit cards and we got an email one
day saying that starting now, we are breaking up with
you because of problematic content. And it's like you can't
go to any authority and to complain or do anything
about it. And thank god, Patrick was very worked super
hard to finding an alternative and now we have bank
transfer with go cardless and it works, but we do
want to go back to find a credit card solution
and hopefully, knock on wood, we're getting close.
Speaker 8: And here here's the funny story about it, or it's
funny now, it wasn't at the time because there are
tons of adult websites out there accepting credit cards. You know,
that's not strange. And so we were thinking, you know
why us, you know for me, and said, oh, no,
you can have that. You can have adult films, but
then you've got to take out any film that says
things like kidnap or rave or eva underage or child.
You got to take a burserk. You can't have burth cirk.
And then we've got but we got Swedish Viking comedies
from the sixties. There's no nipples, but it's called here
come the Burserk. Nope, you can't have burserk. You can
have sex or you can have burth Cirk, but you
can't have them both.
Speaker 9: So us being us, mixing genres is unthinkable, and for
us it's so natural. I mean, we have family films,
we have children's films, we have animations. I mean we
have fucking animations from Ukraine. We mix it all up
and we like it and we want to do it
our way, but we are not allowed to basically, and
we're not not doing anything illegal. We have all the
rights and all of the films have been censored in
a lot of countries and with no problems. And we're
eighteen every hyeah, yeah exactly, and we are eighteen over.
So but yeah, we do complain about it, but we can't.
You know, there's no no way we can be right.
We will never have, you know, the chance. So we
have to try to wiggle our way through this somehow.
But it was a big, big detrimental problem for us.
I think we were without We didn't get any payment
at all for like two months.
Speaker 8: No, it's more than that. It was more like three
or four months. Yeah, and it was death value. And
we kept everybody on board. We could, like if your
membership labs, because you only pay for a month or
re paid by the year, you know, we're not going
to penalize you and say sorry, we're not allowed to
accept payments and you're out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I got it.
Speaker 3: I think I got a couple of three months there, yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah. And then and then we found out that
because people said, well, what about PayPal. Well, look at there.
Speaker 7: It's the exact same thing, exact same thing. Yep, everyone
who holds the purse strings.
Speaker 9: And that's the thing.
Speaker 7: It's actually worse than if it was just the moral majority,
because that's like a group of concerned citizens, and then
you can influence politicians. Now it's credit card companies, it's
payment processors that actually can control this stuff, and it's
actually more dangerous. That's how eBay shut down the adult stuff.
You know.
Speaker 9: Yeah, my view on it that I talk about way
too much is that we are being crushed between the
right wing Christian movement and the left wing woke movement,
and they all hate what we do.
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, we talk about that on here a a
lot about the conservatism of the progressives, yes, because yeah,
there's something about nudity and sex that makes progressives progressives
quote unquote, very uncomfortable and it's like, well, this is
not this, this goes against everything else you believe, so
it doesn't really make any sense, you know.
Speaker 9: And of course, in terms of social media, it's so
interesting that you know, I protested on Facebook against neo
Nazis fascists torturing cats, you know, bare knuckle fist fights
in the street for real and everything is past. No,
it's fine. We didn't stop this. We didn't stop that.
But as soon as there's a female nipple, that's the danger, right, Yep.
It doesn't make sense at all to me.
Speaker 7: No, No, we ran into it a lot. Gentry got
his got our Instagram nuked for drugs.
Speaker 2: Probably, yeah, drug related.
Speaker 7: It was drug related. Somehow, it wasn't sex related, but.
Speaker 2: I think it was again, like you guys ran into it.
Speaker 3: Was It was right around the time when some other
posts really exploded, So I think that they're whatever. The
meta robots were looking at our account real close and
found something.
Speaker 9: That they didn't like, and yeah, and then they start
looking for other stuff. Yeah, somehow, I don't know it works.
Speaker 2: I hate it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys do, just having to be so careful
about the dumbest things.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but we were just the other day we had
a problem. Oh yeah, we had a problem and said that, oh,
we don't recommend your page anymore because of the film
Naked in the Night, the nineteen fifty eight movie. Yeah, yeah,
a German German nineteen fifty eight black and.
Speaker 7: White blood and black lace.
Speaker 9: Yeah, right, like what, No, nudity at all, no suggested
nudity or sex anywhere.
Speaker 7: That's ray.
Speaker 9: That's the word. That's the word naked. Yeah, terrible. Yeah,
so that's that's the word. We live in world. We
live in and we we we do have our fans,
both in terms of the of the Blue Rays and
of colpics. We love what we're doing, so and we
love what we're doing, so we're going to stick to
our guns.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, good.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, you've been doing this too long to not be
doing it. I mean yeah, I mean yeah, you're established.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I am preaching could pics all the time.
Just my my list, you know, my watch list on
there is probably over two hundred films at this point.
Like you guys have so much stuff, especially you know,
we're kind of like, you know, there's something Weird podcast
in a way, and you guys have some really deep,
something weird cuts on there. Like every week you're putting
something unique, and we.
Speaker 9: Haven't truly grateful for you guys doing it because that's
like it's like part of this community that we're in.
And we also always talk about Culpicks as a community
and not as a streaming platform. We never talk about customers.
We talk about members and we and we do get
a lot of requests and a lot of comments, and Patrick,
we I think we we love storytelling. We have to
tell some of our best story.
Speaker 8: We got a very Penguin story, so the Naked Islands.
So and this drives some the point that recognize that
we're not a we are community. We don't have customers
or users or subscribers. It is truly members. So two things.
We had one gentleman who got in touch with us,
and this is prior to our payment problem, says I
really want to, you know, sign up to your service,
but I've going to join bank account with my wife,
and I kind of not asking, sort of you know,
what's this colpix thing on there? So is there any
other way I can pay you? And say, really sorry,
you know this this is really all we have. So
finally he said, I'm going to post you the money,
you know, the fifty nine dollars for an annual membership.
And I know what you're going to say. You're just
going to say that you got the money. So when
you get the money, there's going to be a code
word in there and you're going to have to tell
me that code word to make sure that I know
that you actually got the money.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, how we do that?
Speaker 8: And we got to be you know, we should have
framed that that you know, the money we got from him.
And the code word was, I can revealed now was Penguin.
So we call him mister Penguin and our Penguin members.
And that shows just the length that you know, people
are heard to go and we love them for it.
But rica's got to tell the story of you know,
the the obscure film.
Speaker 3: This is.
Speaker 9: It's it's all about storytelling. As but Patrick was or
we got it to our info aders. I think we
got an email from a guy who said that, well,
I have to tell you I'm a big fan. And well,
my dad was a bit crazy, so he took us
kids to the drive in movie in our pajamas with
a you know, a blanket, not to watch family movies,
but to watch horror and porn. When I was a
kid and I saw I saw a movie and already
as a kid, I knew I was gay. And there
was this movie about a guy who parachuted onto an
island of naked women, and I waited for the whole
film to see his naked butt. But it's like it
never happened, or it happened briefly at the end. What
movie was that?
Speaker 7: Do you know, Casey?
Speaker 9: I know what year?
Speaker 7: Did he give a year?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 9: No, no, nothing. So Patrick Patrick started researching and eventually
found something that sounded just like it, and I was like, hmm,
this sounds a lot like something weird. Hey, Lisa, do
you have this and that movie? And she said, yeah, sure,
can we put it up on culpicks? Yeah? Sure, So
two days after he emailed us, the film was on
Culpicks for him, so he could finally watch the butt
of the guy at the end of the movie.
Speaker 7: Oh, Lauren, Oh there was a butt. Okay, good. Finally
it was like he waited that long and there was
no but in all those years.
Speaker 9: But it ends with the guy finally. He's very shy
about the whole situation that he takes off his briefs
going into the water at the last minute of the film.
That's it.
Speaker 2: That's not love Guidess of Blood Island?
Speaker 1: Is it? No?
Speaker 9: No, No, I don't remember, Patrick, do you remember the title?
Speaker 8: But we found it?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was interesting, that's fine.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Okay, well, let me ask you, guys,
who is Cornelius Corny Flickenheimer, whose.
Speaker 9: Pseudonym is that it's a very very famous film journalist
and film critic whose he's been at the biggest universities.
He's written a lot of books written in all the
major film magazines, but very few know of it now.
And and the thing is that Corny has a girlfriend,
hm Velma Nightshade, and so she does all the feminist
criticism for us. Okay, And they both have Facebook pages
and they're really really knowledgeable.
Speaker 2: Are you guys bullshiting us?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 9: No, check out there. Check out their Facebook pages. A
lot of their reviews are up there.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, there you go.
Speaker 9: And without we can't divulge everything, but there will be
a long essay by Coneitias Flickenheimer in an upcoming as
a booklet for an upcoming release.
Speaker 3: Okay, So for context for whoever listening whatever I'm talking about.
You know, underneath some other reviews. Underneath the movies on Culpicks,
they have like kind of a comments section. People can
leave comments, and Corney is a frequent commenter of lengthy reviews.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 9: Yes, and we also have a lot of you have
seen that We have a lot of the original liner
notes from Something. We are so proud of them, and
you know, some of them are by Lisa herself and
some are Frank Hannah latter did a lot of them.
Speaker 2: There might even be some cases up on there.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Oh maybe I only did them for district pick stuffs.
I have no idea if any of that stuff was
on there.
Speaker 9: So these were the ones that were on the downloadable
films on Something Weird before.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I don't think mine made it to the downloads.
Yeah maybe not, yeah, lot, but.
Speaker 9: They're great, they're great.
Speaker 2: Yes, they're super fun.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, cool if I don't have access
to him elsewhere. Yeah, it's nice that they're there right
there for me.
Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely exactly. And we're so happy about the cooperation
with Lisa. I mean, the whole Something Weird channel. I
think it's over a thousand titles. But the thing that
we are we are putting in the compilations here and there,
because you know, there are three hundred and seventy new
the quties. Yes, yes, all two hours long.
Speaker 8: Yes, we get obsessive letters about them, yeah that oh
oh definitely. There'll be somebody like I saw this brunette
in Super Boobs. Yeah, I'm pretty sure she was number
fifty six as well. But you know, god, when when when.
Speaker 7: Oh see you know what you're getting the letters that
Lisa and Mike used to get, because Lisa and Mike
would get letters from people like that, And I remember
that Lisa and Mike would say, there's one, there's we
have like two customers who have ordered every single volume
of this and on like vhs after they said before
after this went to DVDR, they were still ordering vhs.
But some of the letters I would actually read a
whole book if she wanted to just do a book
of letters from customers, because like you can blur the
names out or whatever. But yeah, some of the stuff
that she would tell me, this is this is what
this sounds like. Now you're getting the kind of the
kind of letters from people who it brings them out
of the woodwork. There there. The community is a lot
larger than you think.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not just the people who are vocal and
open about it on the Internet. There's a lot of
people that are that are into the stuff that maybe
just don't advertise it.
Speaker 3: Well, you know who was big into the wrestling she
babes Mick Jagger apparently, Oh really really, yeah, I did not.
Speaker 9: That's that might be the hardest one for me to understand.
I get, I do, really, I do get the bee
Hive hairdoos and the swimming pools in the motel rooms.
But the wrestling and mud wrestling, I don't know. I
don't get it. But who am I to judge?
Speaker 2: You know? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7: There's something for everybody.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, And we've always Althoways say, you know, who
decides what it's called.
Speaker 1: We do it.
Speaker 8: It's not a democracy, it's cult. But we have long
ago stopped trying to second guess our members preferences lives.
Which is I remember we do the annual Top ten
Naudy and nice of what are the you know, the
most view the most popular films? And I won't forget.
I think it was three years ago. It was a
copic sorry something we are titled that top did and
it keeps coming back and it's zero in and scream in.
Speaker 7: Great movie. Great movie, great yeah, great movie.
Speaker 8: We love it for us.
Speaker 7: Yep.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's not his most famous, there's nobody name. Half
of it is through a you know, Crosshair, and then there's.
Speaker 2: Under underwater scenes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, you know its number one film of that
year and against films which usually top it, which is
we don't know why these things.
Speaker 3: I think because it is has been harder to see maybe.
Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe maybe.
Speaker 9: And also in terms of the naughty list we have,
you know, we have quite a number of very famous
seventies classic Golden agean pornography films, and then on the
top three every year has been the Ship, this swey
film Summer with van Ya, and it just sucks. I
mean we have we have we have two Joe'sarno hardcore
films that are look great. We have all the mac
Auberg films, we have, you know, practice makes Perfect. All
of those films are legitimate films with great cinematography, and
this is just crappy and it's just up there every year.
So we're thinking of restoring it and releasing it on
blue ray as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I was going to say, these lists are probably actually
good guides to anybody that's distributing these things if they
have printer rights, like maybe prioritize these, like maybe zero
win screens, maybe complete. I think there's only one print
of that and it could be not even accessible anymore
for all I know. But yeah, that one, that one
is uh, that's an interesting choice. It would be so popular.
I mean, I love it, but it is very niche.
Speaker 8: It's very niche, but something And this is what Obviously
we've been doing the Club Super eight Blu rays and
before that DVD is in vhs. But this year, of course,
we're launching the Culpiics standalone dedicated Blu ray releases. And
that's some big things for us, because we're straying away
from our you know, comfort zone of Swedish films or
Sweeden related films. You know, so sexy and fury. Yes, Japanese,
but it's Christina or Sweden Haven and hell it's Italian.
But now we're going to do out and out films
that has nothing to do with Sweden, just films that
we got the privilege of showing on colpicks. We love
them and we can see that people respond to them.
So we've already announced the first few. We've got great
partnerships with rights holders and these are films that really
deserve to be on people's shelves. They shouldn't just be streamed.
And we've always said that, look, we've got a streaming company.
We release films and physical media. We have a library
of three hundred and fifty thirty five and sixty millimeter films.
We're not wedded to one or the other. You should
enjoy films on any which way you like it, and perfectly.
It's a great discovery tool for seeing the culpis and
then go ahead and buy them. It doesn't matter if
we release them or they're in an AGFA or they're
from Deaf Crocodile or whoever. You know, if you love it,
own it, keep it and then go and see it
in the cinema when they screen it there at your
local revival house. So yeah, yeah, we really it's not
that we want to be kings of old media, but
we just want people to be able to appreciate films,
you know, however they prefer to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to ask you guys about that actually,
with regard to like Cult Picks. If Cultpicks was just
going to start doing, you know, non Sweden releases, what
were those first you mentioned, the first announcements?
Speaker 2: Did I miss those? What are the first ones? Patrick?
Speaker 9: I don't think we've announced them officially, but.
Speaker 8: No, we did actually write a books. We did the
Aucent back in February. The first four titles we've already announced.
The first one is going to be from Taiwan. It's
called The Fantasy of the Deer Warrior. Uh and it's
a children's film. But is it just a children's film
or is it an allegory about the kind of dark
political things that were happening in the fifties and sixties.
Speaker 2: And that kind of stuff that, yeah, that's out all
the time and they didn't know.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and this is actually, I would argue, the first
cost play in the world.
Speaker 7: Really.
Speaker 9: Okay, people are dressed like animals running around in the woods.
Speaker 5: Oh I like that.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 8: We've got a great Nazi film with the Estonian Film
Institute called Madness. We have with the Czech Film Institute
and also with the Hungarians. So we've actually after that
the next Taiwanese Were Trilogy, which is an authentic Taiwanese superhero.
He doesn't fly through the sky, but he's a crime
fighting overlord. So it's it's just great to be able
to bring these films out on Blu Ray.
Speaker 3: Yeah, suppose it'll be just culpicks branded. You're saying yeah,
not called Super eight, that's no.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and the and these are restored restored by National
Film Institute. So after these, you know, four or five
years of culpicks, we have become friends with a lot
of the national film archives, especially in the Old Eastern Europe,
but also in Taiwan. Uh, thanks to a film festival
in Lyon in France where they have a market for
vintage films where all of those archives are. So so
we have established like a platform there that's really really
great and useful for us. And they're wonderful films and
there will be more coming up. And speaking of films,
you could never guess they would be successes and talking
about the Estonian Film Institute. Uh. One film that we
we we laughed about and said, yeah, sure we put
anything up is a film called A Woman Heats Up
the Sauna. So it's basically it's on a plane in
Estonia and there's no need. That's what happens. She lies
up a sauna.
Speaker 8: Yeah. I mean, we had Nazis, we had science fiction
from the writers of Stalker, we had folk wherewell film,
we had Devil Comes to Earth, but no, the social
realist A Woman Heats Sauna was the number one Estonian
film that we ever released, So it's like, wow, you
can never get these things.
Speaker 3: Doesn't that maybe say something about people want to see
their cultural heritage, you know on film like Come you know,
like this Sarno movie Come Blow the Horn has been
doing incredible for you guys because it is so uniquely Swedish.
Speaker 9: It is and it's you know that the midnight sun
and the and the summer soul stitch, all of those things,
and Swedish sexuality in the summer and you know, the.
Speaker 7: Countryside that's really crazy.
Speaker 9: We've been working on a theme week just called Archipelago
because there are so many Swedish sex films that are
in the archipelago.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I love the theme weeks.
Speaker 2: You guys do as well. Yeah, there's so much care
put into those.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and that's part, very much part of what we're doing.
We wanted one want to do these themes that could
be anything from a director or actor or country and
but also genre.
Speaker 7: M right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if anyone is seriously interested from a scholastic point
of view, he can pay the modest son of wantrun
and visits the Sex Shop, a sort of national library
of pornography shelf after shelf, stacked with publications in all
languages banned in other countries of the world. The books
are designed to appeal to men and women, of course,
because in Sweden, sex like the law is the same
for everyone.
Speaker 7: Well, I was going to ask just in terms of
I don't know how much we can talk about it.
But as you're working with the Swedish Film Institute and
working on other stuff that isn't Swedish for Blu Ray release,
a little birdie named Alex DeSanto, who works with us
on this podcast, has discovered that the Swedish Film Institute
might have prints or negatives of some American exploitation which
is lost. So do we I'm crossing my fingers that
that might be something that y'all can work out with them.
I will just put that out into the wind and
hope that maybe that's a possibility.
Speaker 9: Maybe there is a lot of work being done about that.
I'm actually looking at a list right now and one, two, three, four, five, six.
So we have negatives of nine lost American movies that
we know of, and we have we have a plan
to wrestle those out of the archive and scan them. Wow,
And there are some well, you know, lost movies is
so something so exciting for us, all of us nerds. Yeah, absolutely,
of course, with London after Midnight always the big title
everyone talks about, you know, the long chainy one that's
you know, lost forever seemingly. But these are interestingly enough.
There are sixteen millimeter negatives, but they are so much
better than nothing anyway, and they're probably going to look pristine,
so we are. We're very excited about that. And it
also brings back the story. I love this story about
lost films. You know, the Lon Cheney film The Unknown
was a lost film for many, many many years, and
when they found it, they found it after a French
collector had died and there was a big, big pile
of movies, all labeled an conou which means unknown. Oh
so they were unknown films, but one of them was
a film called Unknown. Wow. When they finally went through
the pile they found the whole film.
Speaker 7: Oh I love that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so they can show up, you know, yes, well yeah.
Speaker 7: Well we got to Indye Milligan Movies, you know, from
International Institute. So yeah, I mean the hope is that
they're good, but we won't know until we see them, right,
So we have to access them to see them, so.
Speaker 3: Even if they're not good, we can add some context
to them and you know, correct, give us all, give us.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And actually one one other question that that you wanted
to ask us was if there were any pet projects
that we love to do it that are hard to do.
And there is one in particular, and that's Joe Sarno's
Young Playthings. Yes, yes, yes, that's want long story short.
We've seen the fifth generation VHS copy of it on online.
We've read the essay in in in Incredibly Strange Films
book that was made me excited about it. And then
when when a guy made a documentary about Joe and
Peggy some years ago, Swedish director Victor Erickson, which actually
has been released now by Film Movement on Blu ray
in the US.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's great with me.
Speaker 9: On the commentary track, Oh, I haven't.
Speaker 7: Listened to that.
Speaker 9: I need to listen to that. It's me and Victor,
and it's also me and Victor. It's also me and
Victor on the comblow the Horn commentary. But in that
film he is in the basement locker, in Peggy's basement
locker in Stockholm because they had an apartment here and
I was like, does that box say Young Playthings? So
I asked, I asked him it's like and he said it,
well maybe, And I knew Peggy scenes before I interviewed
Joe and Peggy many years ago. So I asked to
come down to the basement locker and we found the
work print of Young Playthings on sixteen millimeters. Yeah wow,
but it was without sound, of course, but the sound
we could grab and then we scanned it all and
it's missing fifteen minutes, so we had to take those
from the old VHS shitty version.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it jumps between the two.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And we put them all together and we released
them on DVD because it's better than nothing. One month
after that release, a French friend of mine sets Young
Playthings is up on an auction site in the US,
a thirty five millimeter print, so I bought it, but
they didn't cheap overseas, so first it stayed with the
Synaps guys, and now it's with AGFA. But it's only
three reels and we don't know which three reels they are,
and they have a big backlog at AGFA, so hopefully
one of these days they will scan them and we
can try at least to put it all together. Yeah,
because it's a great movie.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, I mean Swedish Wildcats is not good, but
it has a lot of the cast from that, so
it's kind of like, you want to see the people
from Swedish Wildcats in a good movie, go watch. And
isn't Christinauly That's the thing. I haven't seen it because
I only have access to the version that is gross.
I don't have access to your restoration yet. So isn't
Christina supposed to have a pretty large part in that?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, she's one of the two lead roles. Yeah, yeah,
absolutely so.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and there's an anger in that too.
Speaker 9: No there, I think Britain Larson is in it.
Speaker 7: I think, yes, Okay, that's who I'm thinking of.
Speaker 9: And if you're going to go, if you're gonna nerd
out completely, there's also another guy who only did a
one more role, and that's a guy from one of
the knee cuts of films, and he's the guy who
was murdered by his male lover in real life, which
there's a story about that on the commentary, But.
Speaker 8: There was more in the basement that record found as well.
Speaker 9: The thing is that pay you had to leave the
apartment some years later, I think there was four years ago,
and everything from that basement locker would go into a
garbage dump. And was actually Tim Lucas who told me
about this, and I called her up and I said,
can we just you know, take this off your hands
and we don't even have to own it. We can
keep it in our warehouse, but you can't be thrown
away and she said, yeah, you can have anything film related.
So there were other work prints there for some of
his American films as well. On sixteen MIL. There are
our music tapes, there are screenplays. There are even a
few screenplays that never became films. But there are also
all of the clothes and all of the props from
young playthings the Rocky Horse Yep, Oh my God, and
the hobby Horse and the little Yep.
Speaker 2: Might want to just infect those.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Actually the dial those the dial those had crumbled.
They were in like some styrofoams that there was nothing
left of that what a shame. But there were also
clothes from come blow the Horn there. So now that
is the big national stage of Sweden. The Royal dramatic
theater now has put up this performance of Come Blow
the Horn. They borrowed the apron that the woman has
in the film, so that's framed in the lobby in
a big exhibition all behind the scenes photos from the film.
Speaker 7: It's so cool.
Speaker 3: So any so, everybody that goes to see the play,
it's like free advertisement for your release.
Speaker 9: Basically exactly, every time someone writes about it in a newspaper,
talks about it on television, they will find our web shop.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's amazing merchandise for the stage play too. And
you know, credit to them, you got.
Speaker 9: To be Yeah, now they're and they're great. I love
those women. They They've been great to talk to and
I've helped them out some and they're very grateful for that.
And and I told them because they invited a couple
of guys that have helped them with research for coffee
in the rehearsal room before before the opening, and we
had a great time. And I ended it up with
telling them, you know that we're going to exploit the
ship out of your play. You realize that you're now
part of it, You're part of the whole of history.
And they just laughed about it, and they thought that
was cool. But it's completely sold out from March sixth
to the last of May, completetely before there were any reviews,
before people knew what they were going to do. So
it is the biggest porn film in Sweden ever. Everyone
knows about it.
Speaker 2: That's so crazy. From an America amazing.
Speaker 9: Not in America, And I mean Oceanna sold almost two
thousand copies of it now and we have manufactured two
and a half thousand just for Sweden and we're selling
out nice. And it's just basically a regular porn movie
apart from the sausage of course. But for Swedens it's
funny because there's so much dialogue, and you know that
we've added and this is inspired by American companies. We've
added a smut without smut version on the release. I
saw that, Yeah, and it still ends up seventy four minutes.
Speaker 8: We dialogue.
Speaker 7: Sarno's hardcores are all long. It's like because you know,
his standard movies are like standard length, but he wasn't
going to cut script to add hardcore, so it just
becomes like two hours. All of his hardcore is like
two hours or almost two hours.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I have an announcement. I don't think I
don't think anyone knows about in America, we are releasing
the soundtrack on vinyl.
Speaker 7: Oh really, I love that?
Speaker 9: Okay gatefold with a folder and everything.
Speaker 7: Yeah nice, damn I love that.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: My copy is coming on Monday, so I haven't been
able to dig into it yet. But yeah, I want
to see like those behind the scenes photos that are
apparently on the release.
Speaker 9: So they're beautiful, but there's so many of them, and
it seems, you know, you know, they only had one
sound guy and one cinematographer that was the team. That's
wy he did everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is Peggy in any of the photos. Yeah, yeah,
oh great.
Speaker 8: And do you want to mention Victor's projects?
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, yeah, this is so funny. Victor Ericson, who
did the documentary about Joe and Peggy, He wasn't interested
in the movie at all from the start. He got
in touch with them because he had an idea for
a screenplay for a fiction film about the shoot of
the film, and that has been well, it's been in
the works for ten years now. He's found a financer.
Speaker 2: And a producer who's going to play Joe.
Speaker 5: What I don't know.
Speaker 9: So it's going to be a fictionalized it's going to
be a fictionalized version of what happened at the backstory.
The short synopsis of it is that the producer of
the film had a crush on Leonard, the actress, so
did his son, who was also cast in the movie
doing porn.
Speaker 2: So that's the drama.
Speaker 9: Oh my god, Wow, that's the elevator pitch of it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, wow, that's good.
Speaker 9: I like to see this.
Speaker 7: We're having this Cumblow the hornissance now over the world,
you know, it's like and which is crazy because for
a long time this was the hardest of his hardcore
films to see, very difficult to see. So the fact
that now it's like, you can't miss it, you gotta
get it. Yeah, I love that. That is really great.
Speaker 9: And also the restoration we've done ourselves because the Film
Institute wouldn't do it. It looks beautiful and there wasn't
even a negative of it, but it was a very
nice thirty five millimeter print, so it looks really really good.
Speaker 7: That's amazing.
Speaker 9: And it's still one hundred and fifteen minutes long.
Speaker 7: Joe got to keep them long. Yeah, I think he
made one that was over two hours. Now, Yeah, it
is what it is. Yeah, you have to just kind
of deal with the sex and figure out this and
the story is the fun part. Yeah.
Speaker 9: And speaking of which, did I have to tell you this?
You know that the actresses or who are making this
play version, they actually were in touch with Peggy while
she was still alive and told her about the project
and they would have loved to see her there at
the theater, but sadly that didn't happen.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but she knew about it, and I think she
was happy about it and and that I think that's
that's beautiful. I think that's important.
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, that was that was That was a surprise.
We recorded. We learned about her passing an hour before
we did a podcast with Michael Bowen was very close
to them too, so we kind of we kind of
had a little wake for her as we've recorded. It
was very strange, Yeah, very It's interesting because she didn't
really work on his hardcore stuff in America, so the
fact that she was so involved with production with Cumbo
the Horn, that makes it more special because it was
something that you know, she wasn't gonna you know, stick
her nose up at it. It was like a real movie. Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And hopefully we will release the film that he
made before it Loves Island, which.
Speaker 7: I still haven't seen either. Yes, great, and we.
Speaker 9: Now we now have our hands on the original negative.
Speaker 2: Oh fantastic.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's fantastic.
Speaker 3: Have you guys ever seen in delicate balance that drama
he did?
Speaker 9: Yeah? Yeah, I think we have it on col picks,
don't we?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yes you do?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think so?
Speaker 7: Really?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah that that is such a great movie. That
is maybe his yeah, maybe his best Swedish movie.
Speaker 3: Actually, this is actually movie anyway, It looks like it's
not there anymore.
Speaker 9: Okay, that might be that might be Michael Raso talking.
Speaker 7: Oh maybe, yeah, maybe that's that's a hard, hard one.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I hope that means that it's coming out.
Speaker 9: I would love that hopefully. I don't know. We have
been trying to to We have been trying to negotiap
it pop cinema for five years and nothing, nothing happening you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's also frust Yeah, it's frustrating for us as well.
Where you can sometimes find some of them streaming on
film Movements or somewhere.
Speaker 9: Else, but they have they have them.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, we want the riots expired.
Speaker 7: Okay, that's what it was. Okay, all right, So we
don't want to keep you guys too much longer. I
only have two films that I'm going to beg you
guys to consider putting out, and one is Katoyna the
Cats and the other is is Ava Ava The Outcasts,
because I I because now that now that people are
discovering so vague, I think it's it's it's the perfect
time for her first film to come out. And Katoyna
has a cult following in America anyway because of the trailer. Yeah,
oh yeah, you know it's and it's g and it's
Geopatre who I think always more people need to know
who she is too.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's the only time has come close to making
a kind of women in prison film. I know it's
not a prison, but it might as well be.
Speaker 9: It functions like one, right, Yeah, I think that both
of the both of those could be eligible for the
Film Institute for Restoration, and especially Katuna, which has the
music by Christoph Komierda music is so good. Yeah, and
I have to tell you, of course, to brag about it.
I met with Geopetria in August last year.
Speaker 7: WHOA, Yeah, she's amazing.
Speaker 9: She's eighty nine.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 9: And I'll send you the photo of us together because
we wanted to interview her for the doll Yeah. And
I was in touch with her daughter and I was
a really nice call. And she lives on a like
an estate, beautiful place close to my summer house. So
I went there by car. I talked to her, to
the daughter and her son, and I said, can we
do an interview? And she said no, I don't want
people to remember me like this old, you know, tired,
sick lady. But she's still gorgeous, and she has so
many funny stories, like really great stories. One of my
favorites is that, you know, she used to be an
actress at the Royal Dramatic Theater, but she quit the
job when Imar Bergmann became the boss because she hated him.
Speaker 7: Really has to be preserved.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and because he was just a foul mouthed asshole
who fucked ORed all of his actresses.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, Well, would she do an audio? Maybe
she could do an audio interview?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I tried a lot. But now National Television are doing
a documentary about her. Life. Now, Oh that's incredible, okay,
And they haven't dealt anything into her exploitation stuff. So
m it was actually her daughter who tipped the director
of to talk to me. So I've talked about that
period of her life in the documentary, so hopefully that will. Yeah,
there'll be some balance to do it not only the
Bergmann film, and you don't know my settling film she did.
But she was great. She was she was super fun
to talk to and she's still very you know, very
sharp minded. So it's just good to know, lovely to
have met her. I mean, yeah about people I didn't expire.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 7: Well, yes, I'm glad she's still around. I first I
assumed that she might not be, you know, because because
we haven't heard anything about her, so I didn't know
if But then I should have known. You would have
done the research to know what happened to her. But
she went on my list of actresses.
Speaker 9: Yeah, she's you know, she stopped acting in like nineteen
seventy two or something, and then she took care of
the family and had a lot of baby slicks like so,
and there were many I mean she had. She's had
a very interesting dive that could become a film. She
had some major, major sorrow in her life, with children dying,
her husband dying, lots of lots of bad stuff happening.
But well she seems to lead a pretty good life
now anyway, So it was good to meet her.
Speaker 7: She's great, Gentry, watched some of her stuff too. Well
you have seen the Doll then you know how good
she is, because she's really good.
Speaker 3: That I've only seen her in the Sarno you know,
the Daddy Darling, and she was in oh yeah, no, yes, yes,
and well she's also want to add an Eve with
Mari Lili Dahl, which she's kind of the best thing
about that movie.
Speaker 9: That was just released in Sweden by our by our
competitors Stu do s. Yeah, interesting with English subtitles, I
think so. But I love her and I a woman too.
Speaker 7: Yes, she's terrific in that just made in that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
she's good.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Gentry, we would love to do Eva of course. Definitely.
Speaker 7: I love that you included her her screen test on
on that release because yeah, yes, because you can see
right off the bat, like, oh this she's going to
be She's going to be amazing. Yeah, she just commands
that camera.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and they actually reused some footage from Eva in
the Language of Love, the scene where they run out
of the sauna and roll around in the snow that's
taken from Eela into that sex film.
Speaker 7: Right, Okay, that's right, I remember that now, Okay, Yeah. Well,
I also we didn't want to not discuss Can the
exciting event of returning of a certain incredible star returning
to can this year, which is amazing.
Speaker 9: Patrick tell the story.
Speaker 8: Well, we're super thrilled to be bringing Christina Lindbergh back
to Can where she had her bake international splash and
I hate to put a number on it because she's
so amazing, but that was fifty five years ago. She'd
done two films by then. She came to promote Explaner
and she was flown then and up from a helicopter
onto the beach. And obviously I wasn't there, but I've
seen the photos of her posing on a table to
a throng of international photographers and a very very wet
white shirt, looking stunning as always. Obviously, this time fifty
five years ly, we're not bringing her in by helicopter,
you know that would be but she will be there
and she's going to talk about the fact that it's
going to be our first four K restoration, So we're
looking at putting it out in UHD. I think this
is exclusively announced here, and she's going to be meeting
with her fans, you know, everybody from Sean Baker, Quentin
tarantina've been writing before asking about meeting her. But she
will be there, and she will be walking the red
carpet on Sunday. Again, I don't think we've announced that,
but yeah, wow, it's just thrilling to be able to
give that back to her because that's not something she
did when she was in town for the first time.
Now she gets her due recognition.
Speaker 9: And we're doing a cocktail in cooperation with OCM, so
Justin will be there, being co hosted for a party
in our apartment Terrasts. So we're very much looking forward
to that, and Christina has been quite quite anxious, and
you know, I've been traveling with her for twenty years
to conventions and festivals, but this time it's like she's
been so anxious about how does it work, how do
I get tickets for the red carpet? What are you experience?
You know, what what are you demanding? And I'm like,
be yourself, be your yourself in a r That's all
you need to do basically. Yeah, So I had to
have like a.
Speaker 7: Does she have a hard time checking into that like
mentality that like you're the star, people are coming to
see you, like has that? Does she still problems kind
of acknowledging that she has this massive international film?
Speaker 9: I think she. I think she she's grown to know
it and love it and she I mean, she loves
the attention for sure. But I mean the first big
thing we did was a convention in Cleveland, one of
those annual oh yeah, and we didn't have any expectations,
and we I had a lot of photos, you know,
glossy photos made up for her and they cast around
one dollar each or something. And she was so upset
with me about those expensive, expensive photos and she would
never get her money back. And then for the whole convention,
there was a convention hall, like you know, the biggest
conventions hole you can think of. There was a line
all the way through up to the next wall, and
she took her time with everyone, talked to them, being friendly,
said oh, this photo is from this film. I did
that and when they were finished with her, they went
back in the line and stood at the end of
the line to come back and talk to her again.
That's the kind of great personality she is. So and
then I had I was the you know, the the
ugly money guy who had to take the money from
the people, and I had to rush up to the
hotel room to empty my pocket so I wouldn't lose
my pants for all the money we got. And then
on the plane back, I said, so, Christina, do you
think the photos were expensive? He's just like, no, it's okay.
Speaker 2: That's so funny.
Speaker 9: And after that, I think she's been pretty happy with
just traveling around. And then of course me and Patrick
were the producers of her comeback film in twenty eighteen,
Black Circle, directed by Adrian Garcia Bugliano in Sweden, and
we were lucky to travel to festivals at the end
of twenty nineteen and then the world obviously shut down
after that, so we managed to get that little win
though for traveling with the film. So we were in Brazil,
we were in Argentina, we were in Slovenia, Italy, Scotland,
all over the place. That was great, that's awesome.
Speaker 7: I still have. I still have none had the opportunity
to go to one of these conventions or anything where
she is. But she's yeah, hopefully that will happen. At
some point, She'll come back to New York and New Jersey,
probably New Jersey because I think Chiller is the closest.
Speaker 9: She's been a Chiller, hasn't she She has and I
missed it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so yeah, it's one of those things. It's it's
that's on my bucket list to meet her and get
some autographs.
Speaker 9: Yeah. Christina loves to travel, so hopefully it will happen. Yeah,
and she has an American agent now really yeah, booking
her for conventions.
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh great, Okay, good. So still she's still so
no signs are slowing down.
Speaker 9: For her, No, no, not at all. She's like she
want to use her time the best she can, very
much so. And she's super healthy. You know, she's a
vegetarian and does work out, and you know, she looks great.
Speaker 8: And she also said that although Stella had a huge
crush on her when they were making Nita Don't, he
wrote her many many love letters, which she never sent
because she was the bigger star for two of them.
You know he was a child start trying to make
it as grown up, and she was Sweden's most famous centerfolds.
But she says to this day that you know, well,
I'm happy I never married him.
Speaker 5: You know why.
Speaker 8: He's a big Hollywood slepty look at me. Yeah, you know,
six seven children whatever would have ruined my figure. I
still have the same measurements as I did when I
was in my twenties, and she does. I've seen her
on her Sunday good birthday. She looks stunning.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and she tells me this is also a world exclusion.
She tells me she bought this amazing black dress for
the red carpet, and she will be wearing an eepad
on the red carpet.
Speaker 7: Really, I can't total told me.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I love that.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, I cannot wait for I cannot wait
for the pictures an a.
Speaker 2: P Yeah, I think in a live stream. I need
a live stream of this on you.
Speaker 7: Livestream.
Speaker 9: Actually, Cal Lib will be there with his camera. He
should actually do a live Facebook thing of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah something, Yes, we will be we will do them.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Cal is super happy about about you getting a touch, Casey.
He was really really excited about that he is an
avid listener to your podcast.
Speaker 7: I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been, he's been great, and yeah, I've seen
his work on tons of stuff now, yeah.
Speaker 2: He's yeah, that's great stuff.
Speaker 9: Have you heard his music today, Well, he has a
it's also on Spotify. He created the artist Fabu, which
is the title of the film you know. Oh yeah,
it's like euro techno beat with dirty lyrics in Swedish
inspired the film.
Speaker 7: I need to this sounds right up my alley. I
love that.
Speaker 9: That's really good and it's going viral. It's super fun.
Speaker 7: I love that.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 7: No, I'm always someone who likes to give credit where
credit is due, and especially if it's someone who is
kind of working behind the scenes that maybe isn't necessarily
getting the the the praise that they should be or something,
you know, like that's why I had to let you
know how much I loved it, and I had to
let him know how much I loved it, And yeah,
it was just you know, yeah, you guys are doing
great work. I'm so excited for everything that's coming out
from you guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, here's the last thing you guys need for
Crumble of the Horn is you're only missing a video game,
and then you've got every territory.
Speaker 9: And incidentally, my son makes his own video games.
Speaker 5: But there you go.
Speaker 9: It would happen.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe don't get that.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 8: How is.
Speaker 9: Okay?
Speaker 7: He's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he can do that an adult, he's an adult.
Speaker 7: That's a very good idea. A phone app. Yeah, why
not do it a phone game? Make it the new
candy Crush. The new candy Crush can be a blow
of the horny game.
Speaker 9: I think, what what what's the aim? How deep can
you get the sausage in?
Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 7: Yes, I think so that's that's how you win.
Speaker 9: By Mary, and.
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