Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. A few weeks back, we were talking about
Andrew Mountbatten Windsor and how he introduced a woman to
Jeffrey Epstein and that woman ended up getting victimized by
Jeffrey Epstein. Well, now, according to lawyer Perry Wander, Prince
Andrew might be in jeopardy of being held criminally liable
for sex trafficking. And that's because this woman that he
introduced to Epstein ended up getting abused by him, and
when she told Prince Andrew that Epstein acted untoward, he
ignored her. And according to Perry Wander, he believes that
Prince Andrew or the artist formerly known as Prince Andrew,
could be charged under that UK law. So in this episode,
we're gonna hop across the Pond again and we're gonna
check in on the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family.
And to do that, we have an article from the
Daily Mail headline Andrew could be held criminally liable for
sex trafficking after introducing abuse victim to Jeffrey Epstein and
Glaine Maxwell. Lawyer claims this article was authored by Caroline Graham,
a lawyer for one of Jeffrey Epstein's victims, has called
on British prosecutors to determine if Andrew mount Batten Windsor
could be accused of alleged sex trafficking. Perry Wander, a
Beverly Hills lawyer who represents a woman who is introduced
to pedophile Epstein by Andrew at Windsor Castle, told The
Mail on Sunday he believed the former prince could be
charged with a crime under British law. Now, look, I
don't know if he's going to be charged, but I
would guess that Perry Wander knows better than me. Guy's
a lawyer right now. Of course he has motivation here.
His client is the one that made the allegations and
he'll set himself up for a gigantic payday. We have
to acknowledge that. But at the same time, like I
told you, once you have somebody in your sites as
law enforcement, all bets are off. They're going to look
at everything. They're going through all your records, everything you've
ever done, and if they find anything criminal, they're going
to heap that on top of it. And that's how
these investigations always work. Now, It might be different here
because of course it's Prince Andrew. But in the real world,
if you get arrested for X, before you know it,
you're getting charged with YZ and D two. And that's
because as the investigation grows, and as the investigation continues,
they find other things that are criminal. What you think
of criminals only doing one thing that's considered illegal, that's
not how it works. So when it comes to Prince Andrew,
officially he's under the microscope for misconduct while in public office.
But if you think that's the only thing they're looking at,
you're not paying attention. Mister Wander, who has spent two
decades representing victims of sexual abuse, claims his client alleges
that when she told Andrew about being treated inappropriately by Epstein,
he replied he wasn't surprised because someone else had made
a similar accusation against the billionaire. So I don't know
legally speaking, what kind of obligation Prince Andrew is under
to report that, but morally speaking, it's reprehensible. Imagine you
introduce somebody to some dude and then she comes back
and says, Yo, your friend is a disgusting bastard. You're
not gonna have any words with your friend. You're not
going to pull that dude to the side and be like, yo,
what did you do? But instead Prince Andrew's like, ah,
you know, that's just how he rolls. So I certainly
find that disgusting, right, There's no morality there, just a
disgusting man who was serving somebody up to Jeffrey Epstein.
But that said, does it reach the level of a
criminal act? I don't know. So hopefully the investigators in
the UK are going to look at this angle too.
They have to look at all of it, not just
the impropriety while in office, but everything else he was
up to, because obviously he was up to no good
and I highly doubt that it started and ended with
him sending classified information one time or two times to
Jeffrey Epstein. Mister Wander said, am I professional legal opinion
based upon the facts presented. If a prosecutor in the
United Kingdom were to apply the governing statutory framework under
the Modern Slavery Act of twenty fifteen, a reasonable basis
would exist to conclude that criminal liability for sex trafficking
could be established. I'm not familiar enough with the UK
laws to really dive into that. So I'm not even
going to make pretend I am mister Wander's client who
received a payout from the Epstein estate last year, claims Andrew,
who she briefly dated after meeting him at an event,
encouraged her to spend time with Epstein and travel on
them billionaires private jet nicknamed the Lolita Express. The woman
visited Epstein's pom Beach mansion and his private Caribbean island
and was sexually assaulted by them on multiple occasions. Now
people will say, why did she go back? If she
was sexually assaulted by them, why did she go back
to the mansion. But we're not talking about a normal
circumstance here. We're talking about somebody that coerces people. We're
talking about somebody that threatens people. So is it too
far of elap to think that she was coerced in
some manner? Now, Look, I don't know one way or
the other. Again, this is why I'm calling for a
robust investigation, because we just don't know all the details,
and until we have a real look at everything, it's
going to be hard to discern what's real and what's not.
At least as far as the granular details go, now
we have an overall idea, right, but we don't have
any inside baseball. We don't know what was happening behind
the scenes. And that's because the information that the DJ
has that would tell us that as far as the
three to zero twos, as far as the interview reports,
as far as the thinking behind not charging people or
not pursuing an angle of investigation, has all been hidden. Still,
so we have no idea. But Epstein's estate did pay
her out a settlement. So once they did that, they
acknowledged liability. Right. And once they do that, the person
who is getting the settlement is no longer an alleged victim.
They're a victim. The estate paid out of settlement. Right,
they acknowledge guilt, right, they acknowledge wrongdoing. Right. Okay, well,
this person's a victim, and according to this victim, it
was Prince Andrew who set her up with Jeffrey Epstein.
Now it would seemed to me that that's certainly worth investigating. Right.
Under a section two of the Modern Slavery Act of
twenty fifteen human trafficking, a person commits an offense if
they arrange or facilitate the travel of another person with
a view to that person being exploited. So basically the
Man Act. And there's no doubt that all these cowards
are guilty of that. At the very least, if you're
bringing somebody across day lines with the intention of having
relations with them in a transactional manner, my friend, you're
guilty of the Man Act. The statute states that travel
includes recruiting, transporting, transferring, harboring, or receiving a person, and
applied regardless of whether the victim consents to the travel. Well,
that seems pretty broad. And I'll tell you what. Under
that statute, Prince Andrew might have some things to worry about.
Mister Wander added, my client was introduced to Jeffrey Epstein
and Glenn Maxwell by then Prince Andrew. And Andrew actively
encouraged and facilitated my clients travel abroad Epstein's private aircraft.
If a prosecutor applied these facts to Section two of
the Modern Slavery Act of twenty fifteen, the encouragement and
facilitation of travel, combined with knowledge or reasonable foresight of
sexual exploitation, could satisfy the statutory elements of human trafficking
for purposes of sexual exploitation. Can you imagine if they
hit Andrew with that charge? That would be wild. It's
one thing to accuse him of impropriety while in office.
It's a whole less other thing to accuse him of
feeding girls right into the belly of the beast. Andrew
has repeatedly and strenuously denied claims by the late Virginia
Roberts that she was sex trafficked to Andrew by Epstein.
Well was it Andrew returning the favor, attempting to ingratiate
himself to Epstein a little bit more by sending him
a girl. Hey, Jeff, look what I can do. Mister
Wander's client is the first time a woman has alleged
Andrew introduced a victim to Epsteins understands the woman did
not explicitly tell Andrew that she had been raped by Epstein,
but did confide in the Prince that the financier had
mistreated her. Mister Wander said one memory that stayed with
her was a conversation in early two thousand in which
he confided in and Andrew about her time with Epstein
and disclosed that he had behaved inappropriately towards her. In response,
Andrew admitted that he wasn't surprised because he'd heard that
someone else had a similar allegation. She remembers thinking, if
he knew that, why would he encourage me to spend
time with Epstein? Probably a good idea. Now Andrew's defense
is going to be I didn't force her to do anything.
She chose to do this on her own. She chose
to go see Epstein, she chose to see him multiple times.
I didn't abuse her, So what do you want from me?
And that's going to be what he runs with. And
there's going to be a lot of people that buy
into that narrative. But once you understand human trafficking and
you understand version, things become a bit muddier, right, And
that's why there needs to be I know you're tired
of hearing it a robust investigation. The arrest of Andrew
this week prompted reaction from Epstein's victims and their lawyers.
Lawyer Jack Scarola, who represented twenty Epstein victims, told the
MOS he believes Andrew will escape justice in the US. Unfortunately,
I agree. I don't think Prince Andrew is ever going
to be charged with anything in the United States, No
way in hell, mister Scarola said, there has unquestionably been
a deliberate cover up. I believe it may have started
through incompetence, but there's no question in my mind that
the cover up has continued as consequence of the conscious
effort to avoid holding US government officials responsible. And that's
what it comes down to. That's really what it comes
down to. All of this has to do with embarrassment.
Instead of just taking that shit on the they want
to hide it. They want to obfuscate, and not only that,
now they want to act like nothing ever happened and
gaslight us. Epstein's cohorts, his enablers, and his benefactors have
not been held accountable to the extent that they need
to be held accountable. Lawyer Gloria already told the MOS
the arrest of Andrew mount Batten Windsor is for a
crime against the state, and the state has acted quickly
to make his arrest. However, there has still not been
any action on the part of police on allegations that
Andrew has committed crimes against women. Well, look, we have
to be honest, We need evidence, right, you can't just
go after people without tangible evidence, and that's why you
see investigators grab people on hold them charges. They'll grab
them on something else as they continue their investigation, and
then charge them later on down the road when they
have all their ducks in a row. And I think
we're seeing that right now with Prince Andrew. However, here
in America, I don't think we're going to get to
a level, at least with Prince Andrew where he's ever
facing criminal liability. Now over in the UK, different story.
I think Andrew is going to be held accountable. I
just don't know to what level. Right I'm not going
to sit here and tell you, oh, they're going to
go all in. I doubt that, but I think there's
gonna be some accountability from Andrew. Apparently, allegations concerning state
trade secrets and allegations of financial crimes are given priority
in quick action, while allegations of rape, child sexual abuse,
and sex trafficking take many years to investigate and do
not result in arrests and accountability for victims who are
women and girls. Well, look, I'm not disagreeing with that,
but there's plenty of evidence of financial crimes here, and
while it might not be the sentence everybody wants. Sometimes
you got to get these people on whatever you can.
And this has been the point I've been making for
a very long time. There's not going to be a
smoking gun that you can point at and say, look,
here's Prince Andrew doing X, Y and z. When it
comes to abuse, right, it comes down to do you
believe Virginia, do you believe the other women? Or do
you believe Prince Andrew? Personally I don't believe Prince Andrew.
But how do we prove it? How do we get
it over the finish line where a jury would say,
look there's enough here. That's a very tall task. When
it comes to these process crimes, financial crimes, well that's
a different story altogether, because the evidence is what it is.
There's no disputing it, there's no calling it politically motivated.
Did you or didn't you? And here's the documentation And
when it comes to Andrew, that's what's going to sink them.
And that's the same blueprint that we should be using
here in America. You mean to tell me that Leon
Black hasn't committed any financial crimes? None, not one. Okay,
how about just say how about Les Wexner. How about
Darren Endyke or Richard Kahn. I'd say that's a decent
place to start. Andrew has an opportunity to clear his
name and clear his family's name and clear the record
with us, said Submaranian. His team knows, but I think
that they have been hiding from us because they have
been hoping that this will go away. It's not gone away.
It will never go away until he is forthcoming about
his actions. Certainly, if he did nothing wrong, he should
be forthcoming and help our investigation. Epstein's victims deserve justice.
Victim Teresa Helm forty six told the MOS I became
good friends with Virginia, and though I never met Andrew,
from what Virginia told me, he absolutely knew what he
was doing. I hope there's a very intense investigation Andrew
may be able to mend his ways and apologize for
right now, I don't think he has one ounce of
acceptance or accountability for what he's done. Mis bat and
Windsor has always denied the charges against him and any wrongdoing.
He was approached for comment, Well, you're not going to
get that, especially considering this is an ongoing investigation. So
It's going to be very interesting to see where this
one all ends up and if the UK ends up
throwing the whole ass book at the artist formerly known
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