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Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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Epstein Chronicles. A few weeks back, we were talking about

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Andrew Mountbatten Windsor and how he introduced a woman to

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Jeffrey Epstein and that woman ended up getting victimized by

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Jeffrey Epstein. Well, now, according to lawyer Perry Wander, Prince

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Andrew might be in jeopardy of being held criminally liable

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for sex trafficking. And that's because this woman that he

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introduced to Epstein ended up getting abused by him, and

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when she told Prince Andrew that Epstein acted untoward, he

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ignored her. And according to Perry Wander, he believes that

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Prince Andrew or the artist formerly known as Prince Andrew,

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could be charged under that UK law. So in this episode,

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we're gonna hop across the Pond again and we're gonna

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check in on the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family.

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And to do that, we have an article from the

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Daily Mail headline Andrew could be held criminally liable for

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sex trafficking after introducing abuse victim to Jeffrey Epstein and

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Glaine Maxwell. Lawyer claims this article was authored by Caroline Graham,

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a lawyer for one of Jeffrey Epstein's victims, has called

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on British prosecutors to determine if Andrew mount Batten Windsor

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could be accused of alleged sex trafficking. Perry Wander, a

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Beverly Hills lawyer who represents a woman who is introduced

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to pedophile Epstein by Andrew at Windsor Castle, told The

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Mail on Sunday he believed the former prince could be

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charged with a crime under British law. Now, look, I

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don't know if he's going to be charged, but I

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would guess that Perry Wander knows better than me. Guy's

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a lawyer right now. Of course he has motivation here.

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His client is the one that made the allegations and

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he'll set himself up for a gigantic payday. We have

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to acknowledge that. But at the same time, like I

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told you, once you have somebody in your sites as

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law enforcement, all bets are off. They're going to look

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at everything. They're going through all your records, everything you've

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ever done, and if they find anything criminal, they're going

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to heap that on top of it. And that's how

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these investigations always work. Now, It might be different here

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because of course it's Prince Andrew. But in the real world,

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if you get arrested for X, before you know it,

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you're getting charged with YZ and D two. And that's

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because as the investigation grows, and as the investigation continues,

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they find other things that are criminal. What you think

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of criminals only doing one thing that's considered illegal, that's

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not how it works. So when it comes to Prince Andrew,

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officially he's under the microscope for misconduct while in public office.

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But if you think that's the only thing they're looking at,

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you're not paying attention. Mister Wander, who has spent two

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decades representing victims of sexual abuse, claims his client alleges

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that when she told Andrew about being treated inappropriately by Epstein,

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he replied he wasn't surprised because someone else had made

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a similar accusation against the billionaire. So I don't know

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legally speaking, what kind of obligation Prince Andrew is under

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to report that, but morally speaking, it's reprehensible. Imagine you

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introduce somebody to some dude and then she comes back

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and says, Yo, your friend is a disgusting bastard. You're

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not gonna have any words with your friend. You're not

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going to pull that dude to the side and be like, yo,

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what did you do? But instead Prince Andrew's like, ah,

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you know, that's just how he rolls. So I certainly

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find that disgusting, right, There's no morality there, just a

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disgusting man who was serving somebody up to Jeffrey Epstein.

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But that said, does it reach the level of a

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criminal act? I don't know. So hopefully the investigators in

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the UK are going to look at this angle too.

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They have to look at all of it, not just

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the impropriety while in office, but everything else he was

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up to, because obviously he was up to no good

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and I highly doubt that it started and ended with

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him sending classified information one time or two times to

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Jeffrey Epstein. Mister Wander said, am I professional legal opinion

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based upon the facts presented. If a prosecutor in the

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United Kingdom were to apply the governing statutory framework under

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the Modern Slavery Act of twenty fifteen, a reasonable basis

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would exist to conclude that criminal liability for sex trafficking

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could be established. I'm not familiar enough with the UK

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laws to really dive into that. So I'm not even

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going to make pretend I am mister Wander's client who

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received a payout from the Epstein estate last year, claims Andrew,

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who she briefly dated after meeting him at an event,

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encouraged her to spend time with Epstein and travel on

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them billionaires private jet nicknamed the Lolita Express. The woman

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visited Epstein's pom Beach mansion and his private Caribbean island

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and was sexually assaulted by them on multiple occasions. Now

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people will say, why did she go back? If she

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was sexually assaulted by them, why did she go back

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to the mansion. But we're not talking about a normal

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circumstance here. We're talking about somebody that coerces people. We're

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talking about somebody that threatens people. So is it too

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far of elap to think that she was coerced in

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some manner? Now, Look, I don't know one way or

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the other. Again, this is why I'm calling for a

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robust investigation, because we just don't know all the details,

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and until we have a real look at everything, it's

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going to be hard to discern what's real and what's not.

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At least as far as the granular details go, now

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we have an overall idea, right, but we don't have

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any inside baseball. We don't know what was happening behind

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the scenes. And that's because the information that the DJ

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has that would tell us that as far as the

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three to zero twos, as far as the interview reports,

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as far as the thinking behind not charging people or

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not pursuing an angle of investigation, has all been hidden. Still,

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so we have no idea. But Epstein's estate did pay

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her out a settlement. So once they did that, they

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acknowledged liability. Right. And once they do that, the person

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who is getting the settlement is no longer an alleged victim.

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They're a victim. The estate paid out of settlement. Right,

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they acknowledge guilt, right, they acknowledge wrongdoing. Right. Okay, well,

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this person's a victim, and according to this victim, it

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was Prince Andrew who set her up with Jeffrey Epstein.

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Now it would seemed to me that that's certainly worth investigating. Right.

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Under a section two of the Modern Slavery Act of

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twenty fifteen human trafficking, a person commits an offense if

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they arrange or facilitate the travel of another person with

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a view to that person being exploited. So basically the

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Man Act. And there's no doubt that all these cowards

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are guilty of that. At the very least, if you're

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bringing somebody across day lines with the intention of having

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relations with them in a transactional manner, my friend, you're

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guilty of the Man Act. The statute states that travel

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includes recruiting, transporting, transferring, harboring, or receiving a person, and

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applied regardless of whether the victim consents to the travel. Well,

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that seems pretty broad. And I'll tell you what. Under

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that statute, Prince Andrew might have some things to worry about.

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Mister Wander added, my client was introduced to Jeffrey Epstein

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and Glenn Maxwell by then Prince Andrew. And Andrew actively

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encouraged and facilitated my clients travel abroad Epstein's private aircraft.

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If a prosecutor applied these facts to Section two of

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the Modern Slavery Act of twenty fifteen, the encouragement and

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facilitation of travel, combined with knowledge or reasonable foresight of

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sexual exploitation, could satisfy the statutory elements of human trafficking

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for purposes of sexual exploitation. Can you imagine if they

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hit Andrew with that charge? That would be wild. It's

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one thing to accuse him of impropriety while in office.

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It's a whole less other thing to accuse him of

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feeding girls right into the belly of the beast. Andrew

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has repeatedly and strenuously denied claims by the late Virginia

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Roberts that she was sex trafficked to Andrew by Epstein.

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Well was it Andrew returning the favor, attempting to ingratiate

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himself to Epstein a little bit more by sending him

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a girl. Hey, Jeff, look what I can do. Mister

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Wander's client is the first time a woman has alleged

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Andrew introduced a victim to Epsteins understands the woman did

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not explicitly tell Andrew that she had been raped by Epstein,

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but did confide in the Prince that the financier had

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mistreated her. Mister Wander said one memory that stayed with

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her was a conversation in early two thousand in which

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he confided in and Andrew about her time with Epstein

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and disclosed that he had behaved inappropriately towards her. In response,

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Andrew admitted that he wasn't surprised because he'd heard that

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someone else had a similar allegation. She remembers thinking, if

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he knew that, why would he encourage me to spend

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time with Epstein? Probably a good idea. Now Andrew's defense

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is going to be I didn't force her to do anything.

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She chose to do this on her own. She chose

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to go see Epstein, she chose to see him multiple times.

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I didn't abuse her, So what do you want from me?

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And that's going to be what he runs with. And

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there's going to be a lot of people that buy

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into that narrative. But once you understand human trafficking and

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you understand version, things become a bit muddier, right, And

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that's why there needs to be I know you're tired

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of hearing it a robust investigation. The arrest of Andrew

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this week prompted reaction from Epstein's victims and their lawyers.

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Lawyer Jack Scarola, who represented twenty Epstein victims, told the

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MOS he believes Andrew will escape justice in the US. Unfortunately,

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I agree. I don't think Prince Andrew is ever going

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to be charged with anything in the United States, No

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way in hell, mister Scarola said, there has unquestionably been

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a deliberate cover up. I believe it may have started

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through incompetence, but there's no question in my mind that

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the cover up has continued as consequence of the conscious

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effort to avoid holding US government officials responsible. And that's

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what it comes down to. That's really what it comes

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down to. All of this has to do with embarrassment.

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Instead of just taking that shit on the they want

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to hide it. They want to obfuscate, and not only that,

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now they want to act like nothing ever happened and

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gaslight us. Epstein's cohorts, his enablers, and his benefactors have

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not been held accountable to the extent that they need

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to be held accountable. Lawyer Gloria already told the MOS

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the arrest of Andrew mount Batten Windsor is for a

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crime against the state, and the state has acted quickly

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to make his arrest. However, there has still not been

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any action on the part of police on allegations that

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Andrew has committed crimes against women. Well, look, we have

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to be honest, We need evidence, right, you can't just

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go after people without tangible evidence, and that's why you

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see investigators grab people on hold them charges. They'll grab

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them on something else as they continue their investigation, and

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then charge them later on down the road when they

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have all their ducks in a row. And I think

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we're seeing that right now with Prince Andrew. However, here

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in America, I don't think we're going to get to

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a level, at least with Prince Andrew where he's ever

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facing criminal liability. Now over in the UK, different story.

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I think Andrew is going to be held accountable. I

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just don't know to what level. Right I'm not going

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to sit here and tell you, oh, they're going to

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go all in. I doubt that, but I think there's

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gonna be some accountability from Andrew. Apparently, allegations concerning state

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trade secrets and allegations of financial crimes are given priority

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in quick action, while allegations of rape, child sexual abuse,

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and sex trafficking take many years to investigate and do

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not result in arrests and accountability for victims who are

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women and girls. Well, look, I'm not disagreeing with that,

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but there's plenty of evidence of financial crimes here, and

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while it might not be the sentence everybody wants. Sometimes

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you got to get these people on whatever you can.

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And this has been the point I've been making for

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a very long time. There's not going to be a

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smoking gun that you can point at and say, look,

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here's Prince Andrew doing X, Y and z. When it

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comes to abuse, right, it comes down to do you

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believe Virginia, do you believe the other women? Or do

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you believe Prince Andrew? Personally I don't believe Prince Andrew.

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But how do we prove it? How do we get

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it over the finish line where a jury would say,

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look there's enough here. That's a very tall task. When

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it comes to these process crimes, financial crimes, well that's

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a different story altogether, because the evidence is what it is.

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There's no disputing it, there's no calling it politically motivated.

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Did you or didn't you? And here's the documentation And

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when it comes to Andrew, that's what's going to sink them.

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And that's the same blueprint that we should be using

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here in America. You mean to tell me that Leon

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Black hasn't committed any financial crimes? None, not one. Okay,

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how about just say how about Les Wexner. How about

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Darren Endyke or Richard Kahn. I'd say that's a decent

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place to start. Andrew has an opportunity to clear his

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name and clear his family's name and clear the record

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with us, said Submaranian. His team knows, but I think

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that they have been hiding from us because they have

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been hoping that this will go away. It's not gone away.

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It will never go away until he is forthcoming about

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his actions. Certainly, if he did nothing wrong, he should

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be forthcoming and help our investigation. Epstein's victims deserve justice.

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Victim Teresa Helm forty six told the MOS I became

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good friends with Virginia, and though I never met Andrew,

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from what Virginia told me, he absolutely knew what he

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was doing. I hope there's a very intense investigation Andrew

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may be able to mend his ways and apologize for

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right now, I don't think he has one ounce of

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acceptance or accountability for what he's done. Mis bat and

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Windsor has always denied the charges against him and any wrongdoing.

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He was approached for comment, Well, you're not going to

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get that, especially considering this is an ongoing investigation. So

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It's going to be very interesting to see where this

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one all ends up and if the UK ends up

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throwing the whole ass book at the artist formerly known

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as Prince Andrew. All the information that goes with this

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episode can be found in the description box.