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I do want 24 00:01:54,920 --> 00:02:00,719 to say that there is actually a parental advisor that 25 00:02:01,159 --> 00:02:05,799 Jack Web recorded before today's episode, and I'd say that 26 00:02:05,879 --> 00:02:08,479 is something you may want to keep in mind if 27 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:13,080 you've got particularly young listeners who are co listening with you. 28 00:02:13,439 --> 00:02:17,719 But now, from February fifteenth, nineteen fifty one, here is 29 00:02:17,759 --> 00:02:18,960 the Big Crime. 30 00:02:21,599 --> 00:02:22,479 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen. 31 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 3: This program is for you, not your children. 32 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 4: The story you were about to hear is true, only 33 00:02:36,039 --> 00:02:46,520 the names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're 34 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:51,000 a detective sergeant. You're assigned a juvenile bureau. A worried 35 00:02:51,039 --> 00:02:53,520 mother calls your office and reports that her four year 36 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:58,879 old twin girls are missing. Ours pass the children fail 37 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:11,879 to turn up. Your job find them. 38 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 5: Dragnet the documented drama of an actual crime. For the 39 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,479 next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, 40 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,879 you will travel step by step on the side of 41 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,639 the law through an actual case transcribed from official police files. 42 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,360 From beginning to end, from crime to punishment, Dragnet is 43 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,360 the story of your police force in action. 44 00:03:37,159 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: It was Saturday, August seventh, was hot in Los Angeles. 45 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,400 We were working the day watch out a juvenile bureau. 46 00:03:42,639 --> 00:03:45,400 My partner's Ben Romero, the bosses inspector Bowling. 47 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: My name is Friday. Was seven thirty five pm when 48 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:56,199 we got to where we parked our car. Eighty K. 49 00:04:03,159 --> 00:04:06,439 Speaker 3: I din't see their house is back that way. Huh yeah, 50 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:07,759 let you swing around here. 51 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,639 Speaker 6: Huh how I am on that side. 52 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: Okay, twenty year room here. No, you better wait a minute, 53 00:04:15,199 --> 00:04:20,160 huh Okay, it's all clear now. 54 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 6: I don't know about you. I think there's something sour 55 00:04:27,959 --> 00:04:28,879 about the whole thing. 56 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 3: Well, wait till we check at the house. The kids 57 00:04:31,079 --> 00:04:33,160 might have turned up while we were going, I hope so. 58 00:04:33,399 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 2: Sure. 59 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,079 Speaker 6: We had to go back there empty handed, not one 60 00:04:36,199 --> 00:04:41,040 lousy lead. It's hard to figure the little girls just 61 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,360 wandered off. Somebody should have spotted him by this time, 62 00:04:43,399 --> 00:04:47,120 unless there was some kind of an accident. What time 63 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:53,519 you got twenty minutes, dake five hours. It's a long 64 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,199 time for a pair of four year olds to be 65 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,720 out of sight, and the parents are going to be worried, 66 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,439 sick when we tell him. Let's set up the next 67 00:05:01,439 --> 00:05:05,759 block in it. Oh yeah, might as well pull up 68 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:06,079 right here. 69 00:05:06,639 --> 00:05:07,079 Speaker 2: That's good. 70 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:27,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, let's go, lousy job, I'll put in with you. 71 00:05:29,959 --> 00:05:31,959 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, officers come in. 72 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,519 Speaker 2: Thank you. Have you heard anything? 73 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,519 Speaker 3: No, you're not too much, mister Carson. We just finished 74 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:40,480 checking the neighborhood. 75 00:05:41,079 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 8: Somebody around must have seen the kids. Did you talk 76 00:05:43,959 --> 00:05:44,560 to everybody? 77 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,519 Speaker 2: We checked out all the names you gave us. 78 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 6: Their everyone who knows your little girls, the kids, they 79 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,399 play with, their friends, parents, storekeepers in the area. 80 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 8: But somebody had to see that. They got to be 81 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,560 around someplace Joe until he got lost in that park. 82 00:05:58,600 --> 00:05:59,959 I know they would have headed up toward home. 83 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 9: What is it, jo find. 84 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: No, we're still checking, mss Carson. There's nothing much to 85 00:06:05,879 --> 00:06:06,639 tell you right now. 86 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,199 Speaker 10: Somebody's gott have seen Telly and Joan couldn't have wondered 87 00:06:10,199 --> 00:06:10,720 off that far. 88 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 6: I don't think it's as bad as it might seem 89 00:06:12,879 --> 00:06:15,000 to you, ma'am. Children have been missing a lot longer 90 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,439 than your two little girls and turned up all right. 91 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 2: Just try to relax, miss Carson. 92 00:06:19,399 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 10: Why hasn't somebody seen they wandered off from us in 93 00:06:22,759 --> 00:06:24,720 the park, But it's only three blocks from the house. 94 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,720 Why isn't somebody seen it's dark? God knows what could 95 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:29,399 have happened to them. 96 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 8: Take it easy, honey, don't start imagining things. 97 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,439 Speaker 6: I think it's just a matter of time, ma'am. We've 98 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,600 got three teams of men working on it with us. 99 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,360 Gott not a broadcast on you, little girl. 100 00:06:38,399 --> 00:06:41,519 Speaker 10: Did you talk to the Stanleys down the street. 101 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am, we did. We checked out all the names 102 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:43,720 that you gave us. 103 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,399 Speaker 3: There is one thing we wanted to ask you about, Sargy, 104 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,639 all about the spot in the park where you had 105 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:51,720 your picnic this afternoon where the little girls wandered off from. 106 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,439 Speaker 10: It's exactly where I pointed it out to the other offices, 107 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,120 by the eucalyptus grow right off Seventh Avenue. Just about 108 00:06:58,199 --> 00:07:02,199 two thirty this afternoon, we finished lunch, Frank was taking 109 00:07:02,199 --> 00:07:04,920 a nap, and I was reading. I saw the girls 110 00:07:04,959 --> 00:07:08,120 playing tag over by the trees. I looked up in 111 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,839 a few minutes and they were gone, just like I 112 00:07:10,839 --> 00:07:11,839 told the other officers. 113 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: Then you're sure about that location, of. 114 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 9: Course, I'm sure. Where should I lie to you? 115 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,279 Speaker 10: I want to find the girls, Please find them. 116 00:07:19,279 --> 00:07:21,079 Speaker 2: Search, yes, ma'am. 117 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 8: Come on, honey, take it easy, huh. It's just never 118 00:07:25,879 --> 00:07:29,040 happened to us before. Sergeant Joan un Tilly had never 119 00:07:29,079 --> 00:07:32,480 gone off like this. It's not like him, that's all. 120 00:07:32,839 --> 00:07:33,879 It's only babies. 121 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: Really, would you like me to get that boy, mister Carson, Yes, sir, 122 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:45,480 would you please? Sure? Oh? Hi, Willkie Joe? Anything? No, 123 00:07:45,639 --> 00:07:51,839 that's yet you want to step outside? Yeah? Or half? 124 00:07:51,879 --> 00:07:53,519 Speaker 11: And I checked with a guy who runs an ice 125 00:07:53,519 --> 00:07:55,959 cream wagon. He works the area in the park where 126 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:56,839 the kids are disappeared. 127 00:07:56,879 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: What do he tell you? 128 00:07:57,879 --> 00:07:59,519 Speaker 11: I saw a couple of little girls about a half 129 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,879 them mile from Eucalyptus Grove about three o'clock this afternoon. 130 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,519 Were with a man, Yeah, says he saw. The man 131 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,720 put the kids in a truck, drove off with him. 132 00:08:12,399 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: Eight pm. 133 00:08:13,079 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: Together with Tom Wilkie, Ben and I left the home 134 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,240 of mister and missus Frank Carston, the parents of the 135 00:08:17,279 --> 00:08:21,160 missing girls, without telling him about the latest report until 136 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,680 it was positively confirmed. We felt that telling him would 137 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,959 serve no purpose other than to worry them needlessly. The 138 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,680 ice cream vendor, mister George Comanches, who had reported seeing 139 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,279 the four year old girls, considered to drive out with. 140 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 2: Us to the park area. 141 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,039 Speaker 3: Where he'd spotted the children in the company of an 142 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,120 unidentified man. 143 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 6: I was right over there was this big guy mustache. 144 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,480 He had the little girls, one on each hand. He 145 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,960 was walking them out of that clump of trees over there. 146 00:08:49,159 --> 00:08:51,480 I think you can describe the man for his met command. 147 00:08:51,799 --> 00:08:54,960 I didn't look that close. I thought he was the father. 148 00:08:55,879 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 12: The kids were sniffling, you know, maybe like he had 149 00:08:58,399 --> 00:08:58,960 been crying. 150 00:08:59,159 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: A better check out over there by the trees. I'm 151 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,320 looking at him. Yeah, sure, stand Ralph, I want to 152 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,120 give a look over here. 153 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 6: Didn't you notice anything at all about this man Mitri manches? 154 00:09:07,159 --> 00:09:12,720 I mean other than his monthday Wow, big man, big shoulders, 155 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,600 regular truck driver, you know, work shoes, blue shirt, blue pants, jeans. 156 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: I guess how about the color of his hair, some 157 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,279 kind of distinguishing marks. 158 00:09:21,279 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: Maybe, No, I don't know. I thought he was the father. 159 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,279 Speaker 6: The kids were sniffling, the little girls. Was anything wrong? 160 00:09:29,399 --> 00:09:30,159 It didn't look like. 161 00:09:30,799 --> 00:09:33,399 Speaker 2: How about this man's truck? Did you notice that? No? 162 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 6: I didn't. I was busy with the freezer motor. Then 163 00:09:36,759 --> 00:09:38,440 gives me lots of trouble all the time. 164 00:09:38,519 --> 00:09:39,799 Speaker 2: What about the license number? 165 00:09:39,799 --> 00:09:41,919 Speaker 12: Do you have to look at that maybe I should 166 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:42,360 have looked. 167 00:09:42,399 --> 00:09:42,879 Speaker 2: I didn't. 168 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,519 Speaker 6: Bag of peanuts, orses warm, nice and fresh. 169 00:09:47,519 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, why don't you eat him while they're warm? Good? No, 170 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,440 I save him for my boys. Crazy for peanuts. 171 00:09:55,120 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: Okay, excuse us, mister Panson, Sure, sure, go ahead, Yeah, welcome. 172 00:10:02,879 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: Stan found these over in the bushes where the trees aren't. 173 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:06,200 Let me see. 174 00:10:07,039 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 11: Little girl's petticoat, little girls dress ripped pieces. 175 00:10:16,639 --> 00:10:18,039 Speaker 2: Eight four pm. 176 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: The area where the torn clothing was found was roped 177 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,039 off and checked for footprints and other physical evidence. 178 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: None was found. 179 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 3: Homicide Detail was notified and joined in the investigation. The 180 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,960 torn petticoat and dress were taken down to Lee Jones 181 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,799 at the crime Lab for examination, and they were shown to 182 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,960 the father of the missing children, Frank Carston. He definitely 183 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,039 identified them. The search for the four year old twins 184 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,480 joan until he was intensified. An emergency spot check was 185 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,919 made of all known and registered sexual psychopaths. From the 186 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,440 hundreds of names, the Status office came up with one 187 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,399 that might possibly tie in. He was listed as GHL Grahamburg. 188 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,559 His address was at the end of Seventh Avenue, close 189 00:10:56,639 --> 00:10:59,120 by the park area where the Carston twins had disappeared 190 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,600 Mama Sheet. Gremberg was described as tall, well built, dark 191 00:11:03,639 --> 00:11:06,080 hair with a mustache. We found him at his work, 192 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,600 a small bar out in the Wilshire district. He was 193 00:11:08,639 --> 00:11:13,480 the organist there. Yeah, that's right. I live on seventh 194 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,320 Avenue right across the park. 195 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,639 Speaker 6: A matter of this time, missing juveniles, can you account 196 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,240 of your time between noon and six o'clock to night? Gramber, 197 00:11:21,759 --> 00:11:23,320 I don't know if I can or not. I don't 198 00:11:23,399 --> 00:11:25,279 keep a daily log. You know they didn't tell me 199 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:25,960 how to do that. 200 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,639 Speaker 3: Well, tell us where you were between noon and six tonight, 201 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:29,480 that's all we want to know. 202 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: That's quite a bit, don't you think. 203 00:11:32,759 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 12: Well, as I told you, I was playing canastera with 204 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,600 a maiden hat with that shock hen Look. 205 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,279 Speaker 3: We're not in the mood for smart answers. You just 206 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,039 give us an alibi we can check, that's all. 207 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:41,799 Speaker 12: I don't know why you always have to bother me 208 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:42,679 when something happens. 209 00:11:42,799 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 6: You made your own reputation. We didn't know what about it. 210 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,840 I left my apartment about eleven thirty this morning. I 211 00:11:48,879 --> 00:11:51,080 went down to the Union Hall and paid my dues, 212 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,799 had lunch with some friends with the boo pitching on Wilcox. 213 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 12: Theell me went on a tour of one of the studios. 214 00:11:57,039 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: All right, well your friends confirmed that story for you. 215 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 5: Oh no, they won't. 216 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,879 Speaker 12: They left town tonight eight fifteen, trained for San Francisco. 217 00:12:04,039 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: Oh yes, miss Seln a special friend of mine from 218 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,360 up north Graham was to hear Indian love call. 219 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 6: Okay, certainly, mister Selton right away? 220 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,759 Speaker 2: What about a Gramberg who's looking. 221 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 6: For your alibi? Already told you my friends left town. 222 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,519 You can check with a guard at the movie studio 223 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,240 if you want. We had a pass, time punched in, 224 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,080 time punched out. It should be all there. You want 225 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,200 to call and check that studio. 226 00:12:27,519 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't mean to be rude, Sage. 227 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:34,399 Speaker 6: I always did feel that registration business is unfair, of course, 228 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,080 grossly unfair. 229 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 2: How do you suggest we keep track of you? Why 230 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,039 do I have to be kept track of anyway? You 231 00:12:40,039 --> 00:12:40,840 know as well as I do. 232 00:12:41,039 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 6: Your record is all a lie. I hardly even touched 233 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,559 the kid. I paid my time anyway. Why can't you 234 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,639 give me a break every time something happens to a kid? 235 00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:49,759 Speaker 2: I have a cop on my neck. 236 00:12:49,919 --> 00:12:52,279 Speaker 3: Were you in the seventh Avenue park at any time today? 237 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: Gramberg? 238 00:12:53,799 --> 00:12:56,799 Speaker 3: Were you in the Seventh Avenue park todays. 239 00:12:56,879 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 12: Matter of fact, I was. Yeah, I took a walk there. 240 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,039 Speaker 6: Time was in But I know I left my friends 241 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,440 after lunch, came home to freshen up about one thirty. 242 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,120 I guess I was in a park about one forty 243 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:10,000 five two o'clock. 244 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: Only stayed a few minutes. When'd you leave? About two fifteen? 245 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,159 You went from the park to meet your friends at 246 00:13:16,159 --> 00:13:19,639 the studio? Exactly right? Chance? Did you see two dark 247 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,519 haired little girls while you were in the park. No, 248 00:13:21,639 --> 00:13:24,120 I didn't see anybody. I was by myself. I was 249 00:13:24,159 --> 00:13:24,679 sure of that. 250 00:13:25,039 --> 00:13:27,879 Speaker 6: Well, of course, I'm sure if I did see him, 251 00:13:27,879 --> 00:13:31,320 it wouldn't mean anything. I don't molest kids. I don't 252 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,399 get along with him, that's all. And another one, Graham, 253 00:13:33,399 --> 00:13:35,639 I wonder if you might playing Diane at aiversary party. 254 00:13:35,639 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 9: You know? 255 00:13:35,879 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: All right? Thanks Greg? What I was saying, Sergeant, it's 256 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:42,399 the truth. 257 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 12: I couldn't hurt a little kid. 258 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: I never could. 259 00:13:44,919 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 12: No one says you have I know, but I just 260 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:48,720 want you to know how I feel. 261 00:13:49,759 --> 00:13:52,279 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't get along with kids, but I couldn't. 262 00:13:52,039 --> 00:13:54,159 Speaker 12: Hurt him little girls especially. 263 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:55,039 Speaker 2: I like kids. 264 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 6: Really, I just don't understand how I like him. 265 00:14:00,039 --> 00:14:01,519 Speaker 2: Real strange thing, isn't it? Yeah? 266 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 6: It yeah, yeah, I see as. 267 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,279 Speaker 2: You talk to the studio. Yeah, I checked with the 268 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,519 guard What are you saying? Lamberg was there from two 269 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:12,039 thirty to four thirty. He double checked the time. Yeah, 270 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,399 his alibi is good. 271 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 3: Ten fifty five pm, the four year old Carston girls 272 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,240 were still missing. A special detail of men from homicide 273 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,720 were assigned to a general canvas of stores and homes 274 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,080 in the Park area. All the residents were questioned. No 275 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,600 one had seen the children. Eleven twenty pm. We headed 276 00:14:32,639 --> 00:14:33,720 back for the Carston home. 277 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,559 Speaker 2: I'm all out of smoke, Joe, You've got some? No, 278 00:14:38,759 --> 00:14:39,360 I'm out to. 279 00:14:40,919 --> 00:14:42,519 Speaker 3: The drug store up ahead. I guess we can get some. 280 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:48,399 There a car in front of us. That's Wuilke and 281 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:48,919 Bates car. 282 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,159 Speaker 2: And let's see. Yeah. Oh, here's Wilkie coming out of 283 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,600 the drug store. Well, mel, Joe, just talk to the office. 284 00:14:57,639 --> 00:14:58,159 Anything new. 285 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 11: They got a call from the Valley station a few 286 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,279 minutes ago. Yeah, the little girls had been fomed. 287 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,279 Speaker 5: You are listening to Dragnet for the step by step 288 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:25,440 solution to Tonight's authentic case history. 289 00:15:26,919 --> 00:15:28,679 Speaker 2: Eleven twenty five pm. 290 00:15:28,879 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 3: As soon as we got the word that the four 291 00:15:30,559 --> 00:15:32,559 year old Carston twins had been found, Ben and I 292 00:15:32,639 --> 00:15:35,919 drove back to the office where Inspector Bowling filled us in. 293 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,720 A few minutes past eleven PM, a motorist out in 294 00:15:38,759 --> 00:15:41,279 the valley spotted the two small girls walking hand in 295 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,000 hand along a deserted side road off Ventura Boulevard. Their 296 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,440 clothing was dirty and torn. They were alone. The motorists 297 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,759 picked them up took them to the Valley Division station, 298 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,120 where the girls were identified. 299 00:15:53,039 --> 00:15:55,399 Speaker 2: We sent out a partial cancelation on the APB. 300 00:15:56,279 --> 00:15:59,279 Speaker 3: The twin girls were taken to the Georgia Street Receiving Hospital, 301 00:15:59,279 --> 00:16:01,000 where they were treated her cuts and bruises. 302 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: When they were returned to their home, the doctor reported 303 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:05,159 that both girls. 304 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: Had been criminally molested. The search for the abductor went on. 305 00:16:09,279 --> 00:16:10,960 Late the next day, Ben and I drove out to 306 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,360 the Carston home to talk to the twins, Joan and Tilley. 307 00:16:13,799 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: They had no luck at all. 308 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,919 Speaker 3: They were still shaking up from the excitement and shock 309 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,600 of their experience. We went back to the living room 310 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:20,879 with their mother, Helen Carston. 311 00:16:21,159 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 10: It was the same thing this morning when I tried 312 00:16:23,159 --> 00:16:25,679 to question them. They just don't want to talk about it. 313 00:16:25,759 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 9: Must have been. 314 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,519 Speaker 2: Horrible for them. Didn't tell you anything at all? 315 00:16:28,799 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 10: Of course, Well, Joan just refuses to talk about it. 316 00:16:32,519 --> 00:16:34,799 She says the man was big. It's all I could 317 00:16:34,799 --> 00:16:37,279 get out of her. Tilly seems a little more willing 318 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,919 to talk, though she's always been a little more forward 319 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,559 than Joan, ever since they were babies. 320 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: I see, Well, could. 321 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: She add anything in all of what your other little 322 00:16:44,879 --> 00:16:46,080 girl told you about the man? 323 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 10: She told her father the man had a mustache, probably 324 00:16:49,519 --> 00:16:53,360 impressed her because my husband wears one too. Pretty certain 325 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,679 she's right about that. I can usually tell when she's 326 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:56,679 making up things. 327 00:16:56,879 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: Well, how about the way the man was dressed his clothes? 328 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 9: No mentioned anything particular. 329 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 10: Tilly told me the man was dirty. She said it 330 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,519 two or three times, dirty, dirty clothes. She might have 331 00:17:08,599 --> 00:17:10,799 met the man had work clothes on. She has so 332 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:11,799 many expressions. 333 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:12,319 Speaker 9: I don't know. 334 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 6: How did the man get your little girls into the truck? 335 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,279 You offer them candy or. 336 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: Something like that. 337 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 10: Tilly said something about a kitten. The man had a 338 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,680 little kitten, and he was going to give it to 339 00:17:21,759 --> 00:17:24,359 them if I told him about that once. I told 340 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,359 him a thousand times, stay away from strangers don't go 341 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:28,000 with them. 342 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am. Did they tell you anything else at all 343 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,240 about the man's description? 344 00:17:32,759 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 10: Tilly said, the man was big. I don't know if 345 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,400 you could count on that. Everybody looks big to her. 346 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,839 I talked to her an hour, but she just kept 347 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,480 repeating the same story. The man made them cry to her, 348 00:17:44,519 --> 00:17:46,000 their dresses hurt them. 349 00:17:46,519 --> 00:17:47,599 Speaker 9: It's horrible for it. 350 00:17:47,759 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am. 351 00:17:48,519 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 6: Does he tell you anything at all about the truck 352 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,880 the man was driving. Maybe the color or something like that. 353 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 10: Well, Tilly called it a big car, funny big car. 354 00:17:57,799 --> 00:17:59,960 She said it was red, with red pictures all over her. 355 00:18:00,839 --> 00:18:03,759 You can't put much faith in that, though, Why not, ma'am? 356 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,920 Why everything's red to Tilly? Now everything has red pictures 357 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,000 on it. Just a phase she's going through. A few 358 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,319 weeks ago, it was blue. Everything was blue to her. 359 00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:15,400 Now it's red. Everything's red. 360 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 2: I see. 361 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:16,559 Speaker 1: Well. 362 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,079 Speaker 3: You think they might be able to tell you a 363 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,480 little more in a day or so, after they've quieted down. 364 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:26,079 Speaker 10: Well, I don't know. I certainly hope. So, thank god 365 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,000 it's all over. They're home safe. That's all it counts. 366 00:18:29,279 --> 00:18:31,039 Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm afraid there's more to it than that 367 00:18:31,599 --> 00:18:38,519 what The man that did it still free. Monday, August ninth, 368 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,359 the search for the suspect went on. 369 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 2: All of us. 370 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 3: The men from Juvenile and Homicide Detail were pretty much 371 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,039 feeling our way in the dark. Repeated questioning of residents 372 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,079 living in the area where the abduction took place. 373 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 2: Net it is nothing. 374 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 3: Our two star witnesses, the four year old twins were 375 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:54,799 able to contribute a little. 376 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 2: We stayed on it. 377 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 3: Another three days of pounding the pavement, knocking on doors, 378 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,599 and asking stock questions lead nowhere. 379 00:19:02,599 --> 00:19:04,079 Speaker 2: As in most cases. 380 00:19:03,759 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 3: Like this one, the criminal enjoyed the distinct advantage of 381 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,559 having victims who were unable because of their age, to 382 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,000 clearly identify him. 383 00:19:11,519 --> 00:19:13,519 Speaker 2: Tuesday, August tenth, in. 384 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 3: The late afternoon, we got a call from a Bernice Hopper, 385 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,279 a real estate agent in the West Hollywood area. 386 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,039 Speaker 2: Four or fifteen pm. Ben and I drove out the interviewer. 387 00:19:23,599 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 9: Excuse me, officer, I just got to find that listing. 388 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: Book first, right here, miss Over. 389 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 9: I just know it's got to be here someplace. So 390 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:37,279 yesterday morning I remember just sink, oh, here it is there. 391 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:44,799 You can start to do business again. Well, I don't 392 00:19:44,799 --> 00:19:47,240 know who's going to help you and in your case officers. 393 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,799 But I certainly think something should be done about it. Flagrant, 394 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,440 that's the only word I can think of. Just flagrant. 395 00:19:53,839 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: Would you like to tell us about it? Man? 396 00:19:55,799 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 9: I saw him yesterday, for one thing, So I was 397 00:19:58,759 --> 00:20:02,240 coming back from lunch, but two thirty in the afternoon, mondays, 398 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,319 I always have late lunch. 399 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:04,759 Speaker 2: Yes, I think I was. 400 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 9: Just passing the corner a few blocks from the grammar 401 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,640 school right up above on Prospect Avenue, and I saw 402 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,119 this truck park and this truck driver leaning out of 403 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,559 the window talking to some children, just tops, they were. 404 00:20:16,759 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 2: Just tops, Yes, ma'am. What happened? 405 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,039 Speaker 9: Well, what happened? It's not so much that it's just 406 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,640 the way this truck driver was talking to these children. 407 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,160 I must have been at least twenty feet from them, 408 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,519 and even I could hear what was that man in 409 00:20:29,599 --> 00:20:33,400 his language? Just filth. I couldn't understand that a grown 410 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,119 man talking to little tops like that, every kind of filth, 411 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,839 every obscene word you think of. Flagrant, just flagrant. 412 00:20:41,279 --> 00:20:42,759 Speaker 6: Was there any point in the way he was talking 413 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:45,319 to the children's offer? I mean, was he mad at them? 414 00:20:45,519 --> 00:20:47,640 He seems sober? Or what was it? 415 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 2: It? 416 00:20:47,799 --> 00:20:50,519 Speaker 9: Was filth, that's all I know. Obviously, just dirt and filth. 417 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,880 Some of the children didn't like it, and they told 418 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,079 him that only made him do it all the more. 419 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,680 I really think you ought to check up on him. 420 00:20:57,759 --> 00:20:59,799 Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am, well can you tell us anything else about it? 421 00:21:00,839 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 6: Oh? 422 00:21:01,039 --> 00:21:05,839 Speaker 9: Would you excuse me? How do you do? My name 423 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:06,720 is Bernice Hopper? 424 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 2: May I help you? How do you do? I'm Arthur Thomlinson. 425 00:21:09,519 --> 00:21:11,640 You showed me in the White Place last weekend? 426 00:21:11,799 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 9: Oh yes, of course, mister Thomason cottage out on Norwich. 427 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: Wasn't it. Yeah, that's right. Well, the wife and I 428 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,160 certainly didn't like it. She wants me to put a 429 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,400 deposit on Its still for sale like that. 430 00:21:24,079 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 9: Well no, as a matter of fact, I stole it monday. 431 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,759 It's just like I told you, things go fast, of 432 00:21:29,759 --> 00:21:32,119 course if you had a substantial down payment to make 433 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:32,759 at the time. 434 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it did take me a few days to 435 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:37,319 get some money together. 436 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:44,559 Speaker 2: It's too bad. Raine certainly loved the place. It's too bad. 437 00:21:44,599 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 6: I guess. 438 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 9: I'm very sorry mister thomasin There wasn't anything I can do. 439 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know that. Well, thanks anyway, man, I 440 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,200 guess We'll keep looking. Something may turn on. 441 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 9: I'm sure it. Well, thanks for stopping by again, mister Thomason. 442 00:21:59,519 --> 00:22:09,160 Yeah bye, oh by. Everybody wants something for nothing. They 443 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,000 want houses, but they don't show the money. 444 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 2: What was it the truck driver that you saw? Now? 445 00:22:14,559 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, Well, after hearing that talk of his, I 446 00:22:17,279 --> 00:22:19,359 just copied down the license number of the truck I 447 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:20,680 got right here in my desk. 448 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 6: Oh how about the truck driver? Man, did you get 449 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,160 a good love in him? 450 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 9: I certainly did. The way he acted to those children. 451 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,279 Speaker 2: Unusual about his appearance. 452 00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 9: Oh, nothing beside his foul mouth. He was tall, dark, 453 00:22:35,519 --> 00:22:40,079 had a mustache, ties in one more thing truck he 454 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,640 was driving. Yes, ma'am, there were pictures painted on the side, 455 00:22:43,799 --> 00:22:45,079 circus animals. I think. 456 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 2: Did you notice the color? 457 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:46,799 Speaker 6: Oh? 458 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 9: Yes, it was red. Even the pictures are red. 459 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: Four forty five pm. 460 00:22:55,839 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: We took the license number of the truck, which Bernice 461 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,759 Hopper had given us, and drove back to the office 462 00:22:59,759 --> 00:23:02,839 and check through DMV. We found the truck was registered 463 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,799 to a commercial baking firm in the south end of town. 464 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,359 Through their personnel department and their dispatcher's office, we got 465 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,599 the name and address of the employee who was driving 466 00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:13,720 the truck. The same day, Bernice Hopper had spotted the 467 00:23:13,799 --> 00:23:15,359 driver talking to the school children. 468 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,279 Speaker 2: His name was Lester Wiley. 469 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,599 Speaker 3: We checked a little further found that he was driving 470 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,200 the same truck the day the Carston twins were abducted. 471 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,519 We called into R and I, while he had no 472 00:23:26,599 --> 00:23:30,359 criminal record. Six point thirty pm, we located the suspect 473 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,119 at his home, an old style green and white bungalow 474 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,519 on the edge of the Highland Park district. He sat 475 00:23:35,559 --> 00:23:37,400 in the dining room and drank some kind of sweet 476 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,960 wine from a large water glass while we questioned him. 477 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,519 Speaker 2: It's sure stupid, I mean, huh. I didn't even ask 478 00:23:43,559 --> 00:23:44,440 if you wanted some of this. 479 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 6: No, thank you. I'd like to have you explained about 480 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,400 your language in front of those school kids. 481 00:23:50,039 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 13: Nothing explained. A bunch of those kids are hanging around 482 00:23:57,559 --> 00:24:00,519 the truck. How maybe they wanted to. I didn't grab 483 00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:02,279 some of the cakes and stuff. I read them off 484 00:24:02,319 --> 00:24:04,920 it so well. I still doesn't explain the filthy language, Wiley. 485 00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:06,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. 486 00:24:06,839 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 13: Maybe I wasn't feeling good that day, might let a 487 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,240 few cuss words slip. 488 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,599 Speaker 2: I haven't made anything, but it I like kids. Do 489 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,200 you usually make deliveries up around that school area? Welly, 490 00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:21,079 that's so yeah, I get around quite a bit. It's 491 00:24:21,079 --> 00:24:23,359 not what they tell us down where you were. Huh. 492 00:24:23,519 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 6: You had no business in the neighborhood of that school. 493 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,839 Your delivery routs on the other end of town, so 494 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,039 I can't drive for a walter. 495 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,039 Speaker 13: Huh, I get the deliveries made. What are they squawking. 496 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: About, like to know what you were doing it from 497 00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:33,920 that neighborhood. 498 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 6: It's on my lunch aar drove up to see a friend. 499 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,079 I got a friend living near the school. What's the 500 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,240 matter anyway? 501 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 2: Don't you think you've had enough of that? Oh? Cannot 502 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,119 tell me what I have to do in my house. 503 00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:52,640 It's my house. I want a glass of wine. 504 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 6: I have it. 505 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,519 Speaker 2: You're not telling me what to do, all right, Well, 506 00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:56,200 I just take it easy, take it easy. Nothing. 507 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,519 Speaker 6: I talked to you too long enough. There's the door. 508 00:24:58,519 --> 00:24:59,920 You're not coming in here telling me what to do. 509 00:25:00,039 --> 00:25:01,599 Speaker 2: You better get your coats. We'll talk downtown. 510 00:25:01,799 --> 00:25:04,839 Speaker 6: We're not talking any place now, get out, Get out 511 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:05,680 of his house right now. 512 00:25:06,079 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 2: Afraid your alibi is not gonna hold up. 513 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 6: Well, I don't know what you're talking about. You're trying 514 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,319 to frame you, don't you think I know that that 515 00:25:13,319 --> 00:25:15,319 doesn't make much sense. Why should we want to frame you. 516 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 13: I know what you're getting at, just what you're getting 517 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,839 at those two little girls last week. You're going to 518 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,119 say I took him. You're gonna say I did things 519 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,640 to him. Well, I didn't had anything to do with it, 520 00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:34,039 didn't you. Oh no, no, I didn't. Look I'm sorry. 521 00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:39,279 I'd just sit down. Mean what I said, because I 522 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:40,119 just got nervous. 523 00:25:40,319 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 2: Sure, well, and we understand. Why an't you let me 524 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,200 get a couple of glasses. 525 00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 9: Huh? 526 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: Have some of this wine warms you up? Good? 527 00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 6: Oh? 528 00:25:49,079 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 2: Thank you. 529 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,319 Speaker 6: I just like to have you straightening us out and 530 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,519 a couple of things, and we'll let you alone. 531 00:25:53,759 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 532 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 6: I like to know if you're gonna count for your 533 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,559 time between twelve noon and eleven pm last Saturday. 534 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,519 Speaker 2: That's to day somebody picked up those two little girls, 535 00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:05,440 isn't it. Yeah, that's right. 536 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,759 Speaker 13: Well, I don't know, just making deliveries like I always 537 00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:14,119 do up to eleven o'clock at they I was a 538 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:14,640 little late. 539 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 2: Yeah that's not usual though. That's so you know they're 540 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:24,920 working day, so it's good wine. 541 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,279 Speaker 13: I might have been near the park where those kids were, 542 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,160 doesn't mean anything, though. I get around quite a bit 543 00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:34,640 a lot of deliveries to make. 544 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,279 Speaker 3: All right, Come on, how about it? Wellly, did you 545 00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:39,440 grab those two little girls? 546 00:26:39,799 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 2: Why did you? 547 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: All right, mister up, get out of my house. 548 00:26:49,599 --> 00:26:50,519 Speaker 6: Got out of my house, all. 549 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,319 Speaker 2: Right, Ben, get them on them. 550 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't have approve, but you know that. 551 00:26:56,039 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: And what about it, Wally, it's the use? Oh good 552 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,559 at all you want to tell us about it. I 553 00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:08,000 didn't mean it, that's all. I didn't mean it. 554 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 13: Just once in a while something goes wrong with me. 555 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,000 I like kids, like them too much. I guess. 556 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 6: I didn't mean to hurt him. You're ready to go 557 00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:24,720 now anything you say. I thought I had it with 558 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,200 me when I grabbed the kids. I was in my 559 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,279 coat pocket and I lost it. 560 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: Glad you lost what pocket knife? I was going to 561 00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:41,039 kill him. 562 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 4: The story you have just heard was true, only the 563 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,640 names were changed to protect the innocent. 564 00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 5: On December tenth, trial was held in Superior Court, Department 565 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,279 eighty seven, City and County of Los Angeles, State of California. 566 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,240 In a moment, the results of that trial, now here 567 00:27:56,319 --> 00:27:57,640 is our star Jack Webb. 568 00:27:58,279 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 2: Thank you friends. 569 00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 3: As you might have heard me say before on Dragnet, 570 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,880 we try to present the kind of entertainment that you want. 571 00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:05,799 Speaker 2: You're the boss. 572 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,319 Speaker 5: Lester Wiley waived his rights to a preliminary hearing and 573 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,279 at his arraignment in Superior Court he entered a plea 574 00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:23,279 of guilty to one count of kidnapping and one count 575 00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:26,680 of child molesting. He received the sentence as prescribed by 576 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:29,920 law and is now serving his term in the state penitentiary. 577 00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:41,920 You have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases 578 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,720 from official files. Technical advice for Dragnet comes from the 579 00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:49,000 Office of Chief of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles 580 00:28:49,079 --> 00:28:49,799 Police Department. 581 00:28:54,559 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 4: Now there's more exciting listening with Counterspy on NBC. 582 00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: Welcome Back. This is a great episode. It shows how 583 00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:20,079 Dragnat balanced the need to show sensitivity while also shining 584 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,480 light on difficult issues. In this case, it dealt with 585 00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:29,000 a very real issue of child abductions and molestation without 586 00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:35,119 getting too explicit, and it highlighted the problems out there. Certainly, 587 00:29:35,359 --> 00:29:41,920 the police can question registered offenders, but so many are 588 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,039 not caught or have not been caught in under the 589 00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:48,200 radar The only way they found out in this case 590 00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:51,599 was because of the language he was using around kids. 591 00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:56,279 I questioned in the past, and still questioning whether he'd 592 00:29:56,319 --> 00:29:59,880 even be reported today. I think so many people feel 593 00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:04,799 free to talk however they like around kids that no 594 00:30:04,839 --> 00:30:08,640 one would take notice of it. The TV version of 595 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,400 this is also very good, and it's a little different 596 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:17,039 for the performance of Jack Krushan, who played the criminal. 597 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:23,119 The TV episode actually ends after Friday and his partner 598 00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:27,200 leave with the suspect, the camera panning down to show 599 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,039 the knife on the floor and dwell on it, showing 600 00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:35,400 how something that was this horrible really could have actually 601 00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:39,200 been much much worse. Well, now we turn to listener 602 00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:44,079 comments and feedback, and we start on Instagram with a 603 00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:51,079 comment regarding the radio version of the Big cast Brains 604 00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:56,319 Benton rights that was a creepy criminal. Great job by 605 00:30:56,359 --> 00:31:02,000 Stacy Harris and Melanie comments fun fine scene. The sound 606 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:08,440 effects team rocked. Thanks Melanie. Web actually had five sound 607 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,240 effects men work on Drag Now and there was just 608 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,599 a great dedication to realism and professionalism in the way 609 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,279 they did everything, and they did a great job making 610 00:31:20,319 --> 00:31:23,799 that story come a lot. I will go ahead and 611 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,079 tease and I'll tease a bit at the end of 612 00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:30,119 the episode. Our video theater this week will actually be 613 00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:34,759 the TV version of the Big cast, so you can 614 00:31:34,839 --> 00:31:38,000 compare it to the radio version. I actually think that 615 00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:42,640 while Stacy Harris did a good job, the actor in 616 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,960 the TV version does even better. And there were also 617 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:50,200 some interesting things that they did with the TV version 618 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,359 of the fight, So I encourage you to check that 619 00:31:53,559 --> 00:31:58,519 out on Video Theater and the History Chaser riots. Thank 620 00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:03,000 you for keeping these pieces of history alive. And another 621 00:32:03,079 --> 00:32:07,839 listener comment specifically regarding the episode add insult to injury, 622 00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:10,839 the quote unquote mom only gets a year on a 623 00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:15,480 manslaughter charge. Children didn't rate too highly even back then, 624 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:21,119 and in a similar vein on Spotify, Frosty Booboo rites 625 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:26,160 one year for manslaughter of a child. I would agree that, 626 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,200 based on everything we heard in that episode, one year 627 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:37,880 seemed rather lenient. I checked an undercurrent California law, involuntary 628 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,400 manslaughter can carry sentence of up to four years in 629 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:47,160 prison and voluntary manslaughter up to eleven. I don't know 630 00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:51,240 if the statues have been changed over the years to 631 00:32:51,319 --> 00:32:55,799 make the sentence for manslaughter horser, but again, we didn't 632 00:32:55,839 --> 00:32:59,440 get anything in that episode that would make us think 633 00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:05,079 that there were mitigating circumstances that would indicate a lesser sentence. 634 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,759 It does always seem that there are some judges who 635 00:33:09,359 --> 00:33:12,480 just don't take these sort of things as serious asly 636 00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:17,039 as they ought. Every few years there'll be a situation 637 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,720 where there's a crime against. 638 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 6: A child and. 639 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:27,279 Speaker 1: Their person is found guilty and the sentence just doesn't 640 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:32,519 seem just at all. Another comment from YouTube regarding this episode, 641 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,279 a listener writes, as a parent, I think this might 642 00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:41,039 have been the single hardest episode to listen to of 643 00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:44,319 any show on your channel. Thanks for the comment and 644 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,400 sorry about that. Of course that was posted before today's episode, 645 00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:55,400 which for many listeners might be much more difficult. But 646 00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:58,359 on this one anyway, I warned you, and so did 647 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,000 Jack Webb about it. There are a number of episodes 648 00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:06,200 that really do hit hard and hit differently for me 649 00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:09,880 now that I'm a parent, This one and The Big 650 00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:15,760 Children to a certain extent, and then something like twenty 651 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,559 two Rifle for Christmas. Now keep in mind that they 652 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:25,320 replay twenty two Rifle for Christmas in December of nineteen fifty, 653 00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:31,639 so parents got all three of those episodes within about 654 00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:34,840 a two and a half month period. I will say 655 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:40,079 that while there are some episodes that can be emotionally 656 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,400 challenging to a degree, I don't think you really get 657 00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:48,760 something quite on that level throughout the rest of the 658 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,840 radio series. So I don't know. Maybe they got a 659 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,280 few letters from parents asking them to maybe tone it 660 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,639 down to that. Back to Spotify and another comment regarding 661 00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:05,480 the Big Cast, Mike writes, twelve men dropped completely from 662 00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:11,079 site serial killer much. Yeah, I think that the killer 663 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:17,159 in the Big Cast would fit the modern definition of 664 00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:21,400 a serial killer. It just wasn't a term in use 665 00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:26,079 back in the nineteen fifties, at least not on Dragnet. 666 00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:31,000 But he definitely fits. And there were serial killers like that. 667 00:35:31,039 --> 00:35:34,480 You might think of some of the ones who were 668 00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:41,119 more sensationally perverse, but there were quite a few serial 669 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,920 killers in more modern times who very much fit the 670 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,920 profile of the in in that episode. And then we 671 00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:54,159 have some comments from Harrison regarding a few episodes, and 672 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,239 we start with the big Jump where he begins with 673 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,280 a quote from the episode this, Harrison is a mental case. 674 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,800 Well that's a fine. How do you do, Ben, I've 675 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,079 had a few episodes I've listened to where the villain 676 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:15,159 killer bad guy Lowlife wasn't named Graham, and it is 677 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,440 a little weird listening to, so I empathize. He goes 678 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,119 on to write, this episode is one of my favorites. 679 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,039 The last line you told me which way to lean 680 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,480 is why Ben Romero is my favorite partner of Joe's. 681 00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:32,840 I enjoy their small talk and the way they express 682 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:38,079 their friendship through lines like that. Well, thanks so much, Erison, 683 00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:41,519 and I think that there is something about Ben Romero. 684 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,519 When you get into Ben Alexander and later Harry Morgan, 685 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:52,440 they do bring a certain added entertainment value to the episode. 686 00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:56,719 If at all possible, writers give them two or three 687 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,599 minutes for comedy sketch in which they show how odd 688 00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:03,519 and quirky they are, and I quite enjoy that. But 689 00:37:03,639 --> 00:37:07,280 with Ben Romero, I think you do have someone who 690 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:13,519 feels more authentically like an actual police officer, an actual 691 00:37:13,559 --> 00:37:18,440 typical police officer with deadpan humor and ways of trying 692 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,559 to make a lot of situations that really could have 693 00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:26,880 been quite deadly. My favorite example of that is in 694 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,760 that episode the City Hall Bombing or the Human Bomb, 695 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,000 where Friday gets the bomb and trips and falls down 696 00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:41,159 the steps. The bomb goes flying but doesn't go off, 697 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,519 and it turns out that it needed a hard pull, 698 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:51,480 so they're safe, though they easily could have got blown up. 699 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,280 And Ramero just comes over to Friday and says, clumsy, 700 00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:01,079 that is such a real moment and it really does 701 00:38:01,159 --> 00:38:04,679 work quite well in the context of the show. And 702 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,519 I don't think any other Joe Friday partner would. 703 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,119 Speaker 6: Pull that off. 704 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: And regarding the Big Family, he writes, maybe I miss something, 705 00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:16,880 but isn't the crime. Isn't it a crime to at 706 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,400 the very least the wasted man hours of the police department. 707 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,880 I figure if anyone would be irked at that, it'd 708 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,440 be Joe Friday. Well, to be fair, I think Joe 709 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:34,400 Friday showed he was irked in a professional way. He's 710 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:39,199 not going to go off on the gentleman. But he 711 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,639 did tell him, you know, aren't we kind of entitled 712 00:38:42,679 --> 00:38:45,599 to an explanation. We were put to a lot of 713 00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:49,119 trouble because of this or words to that effect. So 714 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,079 obviously he was annoyed and he felt like, come on, 715 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,199 you got to explain what happened here, but it's not 716 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,000 something you can prosecute for now. You or I at 717 00:39:01,039 --> 00:39:05,280 any time we'd like, can go down to the bus station, 718 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,360 buy a ticket to Oklahoma City, not tell anyone where 719 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,760 we're going or why we're going, and just wander around 720 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:20,039 Oklahoma City. Hitch hike around Oklahoma and that's not a crime, 721 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,199 you know, unless hitch hiking in Oklahoma is. Then don't 722 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,760 hitch hike in Oklahoma. I'm not an expert on Oklahoma law, 723 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,480 but regardless, you know, if you just want to wander 724 00:39:31,519 --> 00:39:35,320 around Oklahoma, that's not a crime. Of course, you know, 725 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,880 if you get in the wrong place, there are vagrancy 726 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,400 laws and things like that. But if I disappear from 727 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:48,039 Boise without giving any notice, I don't have any responsibility 728 00:39:48,639 --> 00:39:51,599 to the city of Boise to tell them, Hey, I 729 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,599 need to let you know where I'm going so that 730 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:59,000 you don't worry, because I'm not accountable to them. Now, 731 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,639 there are people I am accountable too, and I'm not 732 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,559 going to do that. But the city is not owed 733 00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:08,960 an explanation and the best defense if they try to 734 00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:13,000 drag him under court for some pretense and say, yo, 735 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,639 you caused us to spend a lot of man hours, 736 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,199 and is response to me who asked you to? I 737 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,320 didn't ask you to. I didn't ask you to go 738 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,920 in spend your time searching for me. Oh, yes, the 739 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,119 police were irked, but no, that is an auto crime. 740 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,159 And then we go back a bit where Harrison riots 741 00:40:31,199 --> 00:40:35,280 regarding Ben's quest for Graham bread. You mentioned a place 742 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,519 in Illinois that supposedly still makes their version of the bread. Well, 743 00:40:39,559 --> 00:40:42,239 it just so happens I live in Illinois. Maybe this 744 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,119 could be a podcast special assignment. I don't want to 745 00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:53,360 be careful here because actually, as a state, Illinois has 746 00:40:53,639 --> 00:41:00,760 some of the highest concentration of listeners in the entire country. 747 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,320 I could say the entire world, which would be true, 748 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,440 but eighty percent of our listeners are in the US, 749 00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:11,599 so that is just being overly dramatic. Illinois has the 750 00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:17,679 sixth highest population in the United States, but produce the 751 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:23,559 third most downloads to our podcast, a bit more than Florida, 752 00:41:23,639 --> 00:41:28,559 which has double the population. All that to say, want 753 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:34,000 to swamp this poor bakery. But they do actually ship 754 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,760 their bread, which is good because our Illinois listeners are 755 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,400 centered around the Chicago area, and according to Google Maps, 756 00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:48,280 this bakery is about a forty minute drive, which you 757 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,960 think about it, you know, both ways you're looking at 758 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,760 an hour and twenty minutes to try out some bread, 759 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,360 and even further if you're in other parts of the state. 760 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,159 And let me just say I do not have any 761 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:06,360 experience with this bakery. They aren't paying and I can't 762 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,800 vouch for the quality. But if you want to try 763 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:14,960 it out, it is the Ideal Bakery Ideal Bakery dot 764 00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:19,920 net and they are in elk Grove Village if you 765 00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:23,079 have to drive any distance there, I would go on 766 00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:25,840 the website, get their phone number and call ahead. But 767 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,760 if you want to just have them bread ship to 768 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:33,079 you and find out what it is that so excited 769 00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:35,480 the Romeros about this, then yeah, I just go to 770 00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:38,960 ideal Bakery dot net and you can order it shipped 771 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,880 and probably from outside of Illinois as well. All right, well, 772 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,320 now it's time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day, 773 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,079 and I want to go ahead and thank Eliza. Eliza's 774 00:42:49,079 --> 00:42:52,480 been one of our Patreon supporters since July twenty twenty one, 775 00:42:52,559 --> 00:42:56,039 currently supporting the podcast at the shawmus level of four 776 00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:59,119 dollars or more per month. Thanks so much for your support, Eliza. 777 00:42:59,519 --> 00:43:02,280 That'll lie actually do it for today. If you're enjoying 778 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,079 the podcast. Please follow us using your favorite podcast software, 779 00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:10,199 and if you're enjoying the podcast on YouTube, be sure 780 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,199 to like the video, subscribe to the channel, and mark 781 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,880 the notification bell, all those great things that help YouTube 782 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,039 channels to grow. We'll be back next Saturday with another 783 00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:27,119 episode of Dragnet for public domain video Theater. This weekend, 784 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:32,280 we are bringing you the big cast television version with 785 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,400 Lee Marvin. You can find that on our YouTube channel. 786 00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:40,400 You can also find it at Video Theater dot Great 787 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:45,000 Detectives dot net and wherever you get video podcasts such 788 00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:48,159 as the Apple podcast S or or Podbean and now 789 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,159 on Spotify. And then join us back here on Monday 790 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,719 for the adventures of the falcon. 791 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 6: Where I am? I wonder if you can help me out. 792 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,280 Look at them tooes making a bird dog. I'm afraid not. 793 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,960 I've quit the rocket. I said to be a cinch. 794 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,639 I'm looking for a girl named Florette de Val. It's 795 00:44:06,679 --> 00:44:08,599 like looking for John Smith in New York. And so 796 00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:10,960 I learned the hard way. I ran into one of 797 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,159 them this afternoon, almost got myself in a jam. 798 00:44:13,559 --> 00:44:14,320 Speaker 2: You know what happened. 799 00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 6: It's a long, dull story. Well, I don't mind as 800 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,880 long as your brandy holds out well. During the war, 801 00:44:20,039 --> 00:44:22,320 my brother wound up in the hands of the Castapo 802 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,519 thanks to a Floretta val I got a tip she 803 00:44:25,559 --> 00:44:28,639 was in Paris and living in the Polus the wrong lucky. 804 00:44:28,679 --> 00:44:33,119 She was the wrong girl, lucky for whom. Huh, I 805 00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:36,440 see you're packing a gun. Yeah, she hadn't done some 806 00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:39,639 fast talking that John Diarmes might be hunting a killer tonight. 807 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:41,519 Speaker 7: Obviously she was the wrong girl. 808 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, she couldn't possibly have known Paul. She was brought up. 809 00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:50,079 Wait a minute, she knew his name was Paul. You 810 00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:52,360 probably told her No, I just referred to him as 811 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,880 my brother. She was the one who came up with 812 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,880 a name of love call. You know what? Do you know? 813 00:44:57,679 --> 00:45:01,119 She was the right Florette de val after all? Sorry, wearing, 814 00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:02,599 I got a run. And where do you think you're going? 815 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,760 Correct a mistake I made. You're out of the mind. 816 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,280 Be a good kid and stay out of this oka. 817 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 2: If you think I'm gonna let you walk out of 818 00:45:07,519 --> 00:45:08,480 here and commit murder. 819 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 6: That's exactly what I think. Now, get out of my way. 820 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,000 Don't be a fool. Call you're gonna get out of 821 00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:15,960 my way? Give me that gun Okay. 822 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,119 Speaker 1: Hope you'll be with us then in the meantime, send 823 00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:24,400 your comments to Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot net, 824 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,920 follow us on Twitter at Radio Detectives, and check us 825 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:35,000 out on Instagram, Instagram, dot com, slash Great Detectives from Boise, Idaho. 826 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,199 This is your host, Adam Graham signing off.