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Speaker 1: What did What did you see that you liked yesterday
down at springball?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I was.
Speaker 2: It was my first time going down and seeing the
team this year during spring and.
Speaker 4: I paid a lot of attention to the wide receivers.
Speaker 2: Is you know, it was fun, fun to kind of
see who's developing, who's coming together. And I'll tell you
my absolute So I watched some of the drills that
Bessie was running with the guys, and because I hadn't
seen him play, but I'd say even if I hadn't,
if I was to sit there and watch Glasker.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you were watching wide receivers, then somehow I
didn't know what I didn't know legends legend, Yeah, legend,
I don't say legend glass the wide receiver.
Speaker 4: Right. So I hadn't seen him play much.
Speaker 2: I watched some of his highlights before, but you know
that doesn't tell you as much. But when you see
him in person, Uh, real quick feet, yeah, I mean
obviously he's he's got to put some weight on and
then there's definitely some more that's going to develop with him.
But you can just see the talent and the ability,
and he's not out of his realm by any means
in that wide receiver room. So first stand out there,
Kyler Kasper made some great place yesterday on the ball,
just his length, his size, and then Jojo just he's
just so methodical in his routes, in his in his catching,
He's always freezing that ball on a catch and tucking.
Speaker 4: It just just looks clean.
Speaker 2: So the receiver room is going to be better than expected,
I think just by watching what I saw today or yesterday.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but it just there's there's some great athletes, uh.
Speaker 2: Once taking all get assimilated into the system and get
some some real work in with with the quarterbacks and
with Bear, and I think we we're gonna have a
good group, you know.
Speaker 4: I I yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think we're gonna struggle like maybe some of
us had thought going in with with losing uh, you know,
Parker and whatnot.
Speaker 4: I think that we're gonna be able to fill those voice.
It's gonna be interesting. I we talked about it before.
Speaker 2: When with these young guys coming in and the amount
of training and outside of just their high school team
that they've had.
Speaker 4: It shows.
Speaker 2: I mean, these guys are coming in uh and and
and they're gonna do They're gonna do well. But there's
I was impressed with you know, Reggie's look looking good,
Tay look good, you know I I yeah.
Speaker 4: It's just a good group of receivers. And I think
they're all gonna push each other really well. And I
think I.
Speaker 2: Think having Kyler Kasper come in and I mean he
made a trey Alexander had him covered on a deep
post really well. And think, in fact, you see the
picture of it that they posted on the on the side.
Speaker 4: That was a great catch.
Speaker 2: And and uh, Darius Laster coupled asked him if he
caught that. He did catch that, and then he spun
them all right at tray right after he did it,
you know. So it was fun to watch and and
you know, and and then I got I got to
go over the tight ends.
Speaker 4: I wanted to watch. I was curious to see lions. Yeah,
and and.
Speaker 2: How he he made a couple of in fact, the
same picture the picture they had of him catching up
it was a great catch across the He's he's got
more speed.
Speaker 4: Than I was than I thought.
Speaker 2: He was a little smaller, I think than a Carson Ryan.
And so it'll be interesting to see how that translates
into blocking and being able to manage, uh, some of
the roles that the Titans have to But he looked good.
He's got good hands, he's got speed, and yeah, I
was happy to see.
Speaker 4: What I saw. You know. I also LJ was working out.
Speaker 2: He wasn't running any plays, but but on the side
he was doing some of his own drills.
Speaker 4: He looked sharp, you know.
Speaker 2: I I think that there's just you know, I did
need to go in and I wish I would have
paid more attention to the running back groom. I'll do
that next time. And just to see Echa. I want
to see what he can do, just as his side
to side movement. You know, I think we have I'm
always optimistic, let's put it that way, but I think
we have a good group. And we're only a few
days into spring. Yeah, so it'll be interesting to see. Now,
once we went to team, I'll tell you what. The
defense killed it. I mean that was a pick after pick.
I mean there were probably four picks. They were just
like wow, you know that And you would expect that
right now going in and it's the first it's a
little bit easier to gel on defense, especially when everybody's back,
you know, And so that that was impressive when they
went the team. So it's gonna be fun as the
offense can get together and jel a little bit more,
I think we're gonna have uh some more competitive you know,
times and one on ones are always fun to watch
with the DB's and and the receivers and see who's
making plays. There were there were a couple of great
routes and then there were some just great routes with DB's.
Speaker 4: Making plays, you know, So so it was fun.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm fired up for football, always.
Speaker 1: Man, always always Who Who? Who?
Speaker 4: Who?
Speaker 1: Ended up picking off passes and team? Anyone stood out.
Speaker 2: To you A good question, because I don't. I was
kind of often side a little bit, and I just
kept seeing pick after pick, and I was like, this
is starting to look bad for the offense. Well I
would even going to hoo thro picks. But let's just
say the defense, what's on top of it. You know
they if they can play balls out like that, you
know that they'll.
Speaker 4: Do really well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so early on knee jerk reaction, right, the defense
is going to be a top ten defense. G man.
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, who wow, You're just like the six
oh seven days when K Pop was on the squad.
Speaker 3: Baby, I think they're certainly capable, right, I'm not ready
to make that assessment.
Speaker 1: Top ten, Come on, top ten, g man.
Speaker 4: I can't. I can't go there all.
Speaker 3: Right, let's listen to it, because you're talking a relative
to other defense.
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on elsewhere.
Speaker 7: Well, is it a top ten defense or no? You
just heard it from Jared Bloodson. We're picking off passes
and yeah.
Speaker 3: Against BYU, it's one defense. There's what one hundred and
thirty out there.
Speaker 7: All I'm saying is I'm just saying I'm willing to
go on record right now in State that by Football
under Kelly Papinga in this defensive staff top ten.
Speaker 1: Baby, Wow, whoa, whoa? Sign me up, baby, I'm on
that hype.
Speaker 4: Traine.
Speaker 2: Well, with with who we have coming back, we should
be expectations.
Speaker 4: We should be there.
Speaker 7: We should be should be pretty close to top twenty five.
We should be with everyone that's returning.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we should be there.
Speaker 7: I think they kid like to me, it's like we
have the ability with the schedule that we have in
the Big twelve to be a top ten defense.
Speaker 1: I think we do.
Speaker 7: Like top twenty five is is kind of a standard
right now, Top thirty probably right in there. That's kind
of your quota, but you can overachieve versus that quota.
Speaker 3: G Man, we haven't even talked about the aspect that
I think might be even is the defensive interior new
Tonavasa coming back.
Speaker 4: Body's schoonover is going to.
Speaker 3: Be phenomenal next year. I watch Body schoonover. Yes, he
had a breakthrough last year.
Speaker 4: He clicked. It's like, yeah, I'm this athlete. I'm doing this.
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be phenomenal next year. He's
going to be a breakout player for this BAU defense.
Love that you saw it percolating all through the lit
latter stages last year. And now that they have that
club off of a Nissy Purcell's arm and he can
go Nisy Priscelle was really good at the start of
the season and then he he just couldn't really play,
but he was so good. He essentially played with one arm.
He was that good. I was like, yeah, one arm,
go in there, you can still bring it. He's gonna
have two arms now he's gonna be good. Bioa.
Speaker 4: They got guys Man.
Speaker 3: And then Justin Kirkland. We'll see what he has. Wasn't
really able to perform much last year. Yeah, the defensive
materier is gonna be good too. It's gonna be really
really good. But Body screw over's my guy. Watch body.
I think the clined I think he's like, yeah, I
could be this guy. He's gonna be really good.
Speaker 2: You've got solid guys in each position group, you know,
that are just excellent athletes, proven talent, and I mean
from the d line to the linebackers, to the safeties
to the corners. You've got ballers, you know. So yeah, yeah,
we were And I think a pupina coming in. If
he's a top twenty, top twenty five defense, he's doing
he's doing really well. Now, if he's a top ten defense,
he should be a coach of the year. Sure, you know,
coming in for his first year. But yeah, it's gonna
be fun.
Speaker 4: Love it.
Speaker 7: Let's get to the sound because we've been talking defense
through transition. Let's hear from Kelly Pepinka head to your
defensive coordinator for the BUA You Cougar football team.
Speaker 1: Let's tune in.
Speaker 8: It's been the main the main thing has been just
the schedule and the routine of it all right, and
just being able to stay, you know, just be able
to find the routine of how things work and how
things operate. And so it's been an adjustment.
Speaker 5: But I'll yeah, I'll get used to it.
Speaker 8: But that's I would say that's the main thing, is
just getting used to the amount of time people are
coming to you, asking you questions, wanting to know how
things are done, and kind of like the final answers
to everything. But but it's been fun. It's been a
good adjustment, you know, adding the assistant coaches that you have,
what's been like kind of building momentum as a coaching.
Speaker 5: Staff with any group.
Speaker 8: Yeah, those guys have been great, man, They're smart guys.
Demo and Lewis have come right in and been able
to you know, pick up on the techniques and the
scheme and really good coaches. I think they've gotten you know,
the corners of the safeties. They've they've really caught onto
those guys, and so I like what I see with
with that. And then you know, Chad kha he's been around,
so he's been around these guys, he's been around the scheme.
So it's been pretty seamless right now. I'll be honest
with you, I think we've been able to go a
lot faster than I thought we were gonna be able
to go. And then those guys have provided some really
good insight onto just like how they see our scheme,
little tweaks that we could make to it. This guys
some coverages, some blitzes and things, so it's been good
to have their insights. Sometimes it's it's good to have
somebody come from the outside to be able to kind
of evaluate everything that's been going on. But at the
end of the day, it's gonna look very similar, but
there'll be some tweaks to it too as well.
Speaker 4: For else it's probably a pols there into assets forty
an hour, two practices and spring involved with Is there anything.
Speaker 2: About this depends if you're kind of get in here.
Speaker 5: And sort of surprising, where like the guys sort of
took to something.
Speaker 4: Maybe even better than Oh.
Speaker 8: I just think the ones and the twos they know
the defense well, they're playing fast, they're making a ton
of plays. I would just say the execution over the
first two days I've been very pleased with, especially day one.
I haven't you know, watched the film from today yet,
but day one I was very pleased with just the execution,
the amount of the not many mental mental errors, right,
very few mental errors with that were those first two
groups and then the threes in the fours, they're they're
learning it and going through it. But I love our leadership,
I love our talent. I think we have a chance
to be pretty good. But it's gonna be day by day,
just continue to build upon practice and and so we'll see,
we'll watch the film and evaluate how today goes.
Speaker 5: But I think we're playing hard.
Speaker 8: I just think that it's a very experienced group, right,
so I think they know how to do things the
right way.
Speaker 5: So it's been fun to watch.
Speaker 1: Stack tele wise.
Speaker 7: Uh, you're not changing much of the scheme, so you
get you get carryover, you get positional master mastery. The
culture is established, the expectations are are established. With that
tenured group, they know operationally what they do day in
and day out. Anyone who's lack luster, anyone who's like
not completely like familiar with the process, ends up kind
of being forced into the process, into the culture like Okay,
well this is that what we got to do, and they.
Speaker 1: Get into the sense of urgency.
Speaker 7: That's why I think when you pointed out like there
are a lot of picks, a lot of pass breakups,
a lot of players from the defense, there's too much cohesion,
continuity and culture with talent to not come out and
immediately dominate this offense, which is good. You're gonna see counters,
You're gonna see you're gonna see installs. Ay, Rod's gonna
balance it all out. Remember Walker's being assimilated. Uh, you
got Roger Sally Apagab being simplic cast being assimilated into
the situation even uh, you know, just you got new
faces out there, and like you have right now in
the running back room, you're you're still with lg Out.
I know, he's like the bellcow right now for springball,
so he'll take lead. But you have a lot of
guys that still haven't seen a ton of reps outside
of practice. Yeah, yeah, or you know, yeah, I mean,
so I think it's a working price. You also had
three new offensive lineman Pockepin now, Zakiamucci and Junior Sea.
There's just a lot of new faces on the offensive
side of the ball. There is some good returning talent,
there's no doubt, But there's so much dang returning talent,
and ten you're on the other side, it's gonna be
hard to like compete with the defense in the initial
phase of springball.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, But but that's big time college football. Yeah, this
is what the big teams do. Yeah, right, Yeah, we're talented.
But guess what we're not satisfying. We're bringing in more talent.
You guys gotta compete. You got to compete every single day.
It's just like, oh you got this, well, no one's
good as this. No, you keep going, keep implementing. That's
why I love the kid Uluwabe transfer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3: Well, the story's position, the tape linebacker, Well, we're gonna
bring a really good linebacker and Jake Clifton. We're gonna
make it stronger. You're never satisfied. So they we're like,
oh fast, new this all the time.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: You recruits like, Okay, this guy's gonna fit in all
but I don't want to upset that. You gotta appease him.
He's gotta be that guy, right that. No Ah, you
you recruit over him. That's a coach's job. And if
you're that player, you may not look like oh I
don't like this. No, you want that as a player.
You want to be pushed, you want to compete and
come out on top. It's good all the way around
for this Bay football team. So yeah, it's really really exciting.
Springs exciting, but it's it's difficult to boc holds into
what we're seeing defensively.
Speaker 7: Let's get back to the sout Kelly papinga defensive coordinator
b Yu Kelly.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've announced this or not, but
do you plan on betting on the sidemine?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 8: We're just talking about that with somebody else, Like I
don't know exactly where I'm gonna be a well, we'll
kind of see what's best fitted for the staff where
I need to be and you know who needs to
be up in the box and needs to be on
the sideline. But I've I have enjoyed my time on
the sideline. It'd be hard to give that up. But
I do know that as a coordinator, you need to
kind of be in a space where the emotion of
the game is away and so you're not calling the
game emotionally. I think that's gonna work better for me,
but I don't know. I've done both throughout my career.
The majority of my career, I've actually been up in
the box, and then since my time I went to
Boise State, I think my last maybe four or five years,
I've been down on the field, so but.
Speaker 5: The majority of my career have been up in the box.
So I've done both. I think there's advantages that both
of them disadvantages.
Speaker 3: So look at Vic to asking maybe the most pointed
question during the interview session, Way to go, Vic, Whatever
Kelly does. I'm a big fan of coaches playing to
their strings. You shouldn't like Okay on this now, so
I need to be this. No, you do what you do,
you do what you're comfortable with. Just know, Kelly, he
seems like an on the field guy. He's got to
be that guy on the field, but I don't know,
like you pointed out, he's spent most of his career
in the.
Speaker 4: Box so well.
Speaker 2: And Jay, you know, was I felt the same way
about Jay Hill being on the sideline, that he's the
sideline type of guy until he got in the booth
and then could see everything from up there, and it
was like changed his whole perspective stays in the booth,
you know. And so but I was always saying Justin
Ena was always next to Jay Hill in the booth
almost all the time. So I could see Justin being
the booth guy.
Speaker 4: But but you know who else is in the booth?
Speaker 3: Gary Anderson, you're right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah that this
is necessitate that your defensive coordinators at the booth because
you got the best reference point.
Speaker 4: Maybe he in college football. It doesn't hyperbole, Gary Anderson.
Is that good?
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm seeing this coach. Okay, let's do this, Gary Anderson.
You want to sit by that guy? And that just
thought of me right now? So Kelly, get up to
the booth. That's where I'm handed. That's where I'm going.
Speaker 1: Booth. Remember Jay Hill was a field guy too, until
the hardest.
Speaker 4: Thing exactly, That's right.
Speaker 1: It was hard.
Speaker 4: It was the hardest to put. He didn't want to
be there. But they have headphones. He can talk to
Gary Anderson.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The power of technology.
Speaker 1: What the technology?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm I'm I'm just throwing stuff out.
Do what you want where you can be most effective.
Speaker 1: Kelly, here you go, like, would it be nice? You
know'd be really nice if like I've ofcking thought about this,
I'm weird, I guess I'm like, why can't you just
have like a like a little platform, you know, like
on the sideline, and it could I guess disruptive you
from behind, but you're like one guy on the platform.
You're just kind of like looking at everything like with
your headset, like you can get like a little bit
better view rather than.
Speaker 3: That, maybe do that booger McFarlane like, likemember, what he
did on the sideline up and down?
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, do that thing. You'll remember that. No, well
he's went Bunday Night fort Balls a disaster.
Speaker 3: He was terrible, right, but but they actually like set
him up in like a movable seat that went up
and down the sideline while he gave commentary.
Speaker 4: It was one of the most ambitious and bizarre.
Speaker 1: Put Like, yeah, you could totally have like a seat
that's like elevated and it's just kind of pushes him,
you know the way, and he's just gonna watch them.
Speaker 4: But with the technology today, like these guys, these guys.
Speaker 2: Sit down after every series and watch every single play
from the perspective of the high camera, you.
Speaker 4: Know, so they get to see a lot of that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's gotta be advantages of being in that
booth and seeing everything the way that they can see
it as a whole as things are happening as well.
Speaker 3: Well, why know, for me personally, watching from the booth
changes the perspective significantly to where I can't stand watching
games anywhere else. I love watching games from the booth
because you see a lot of things unfold, and those
guys see a lot.
Speaker 4: Well, there's you know when we watch our game film.
Speaker 2: Uh, the game film that we have is always the
highest point camera where you see every piece of the
field and every player on the field.
Speaker 4: So yeah, there there's definitely something to that that high point. Yeah.
The games that I at ten where you're either in a.
Speaker 2: Sideline or or in an end zone corner, it's like
you literally have to go rewatch the game when you
get home because you miss.
Speaker 4: What's going on.
Speaker 7: Like honestly, the best angle to me is like more
of like the traditional high school angle from the booth.
Speaker 1: The high school booth is better than the college booth.
Speaker 4: Do you think so?
Speaker 1: I think so because you're not super duper high up.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so you can that I can see more what's
going on From a personnel decision, Uh, you know some
of some of like the the personnel interchanging, like twelve
if I you're your defense coordinator, twelve personnel, eleven personnel,
ten personnel, you don't always get visual. You don't get
a visual of like the numbers trotting on and off
the field, right, that has to be communicated by the sideline.
Speaker 1: To you up in the booth, and then you you
make the calls of DC.
Speaker 4: Does that make sense?
Speaker 7: Like whereas like at the high school, right, you can
kind of see what's kind of going on, you know.
I mean, look, I don't know what vision you have
if you got twenty twenty vision, Like even when you're
up into booth in college, like you know, a twenty
twenty vision, you're like, wait, you know what am I
seeing here?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 7: So anyway, let's get back to the K pops down
and finish that up and make this a segment.
Speaker 1: K Pop Defense coordinator b Yu.
Speaker 8: You guys obviously losing a lot of adoption in a
certain guy who was a combined last week Jack Kelly
showed out, Yeah, well, where.
Speaker 3: Do you go?
Speaker 5: Kind of I don't want to say we replace a
guy like that.
Speaker 4: Because you can't replace one of the.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but where do you where do you kind of start?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think we have a lot of options of
just how we how we got it, I will do it,
you know, kid with Lave that's come in.
Speaker 5: He looks great.
Speaker 8: I think Jake Clifton another guy, he's looked really good.
Those are two transfer guys, Jake just coming on off
this mission. But those guys have played a lot of football,
both of those guys. And so then you combine that
with the guys that we've already had with Sarah and
Isaiah glasger and and Miles Halls look really good and
as there's a lot of guys, so it's gonna be
super competitive.
Speaker 5: And I think we got plenty of answers.
Speaker 8: And Jack Kelly was a great player, and there's some
stuff that he does that I don't think we'll be
able to replace. But there's a lot of things that
I think these guys can add to this scheme that
maybe we haven't had in the past. And I'm I'm
just excited about the depth and the competition and uh
I you know, I think just over the past couple
of years, we've recruited.
Speaker 5: That position very well, and so we're in a good spot.
Speaker 2: Did you get a chance to pull little bit off?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah, he did.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he killed it, you know he I think he
did as good as any linebacker as far as you know,
from all the different drills. You know, there might have
been a guy that ran faster than him or jumped
higher than him, but a cumulative number of every drill
that he did, I thought he was outstanding. He's gonna
he's gonna have moved his stock up, I think big
time from what he did.
Speaker 5: I'm excited for him. You kept so much of your
roster at Tech, some many of your top contributors.
Speaker 7: I said it as soon as it happened. I'm like, dude,
he just jumped in. He may be a day two
guy like that. That's where he jumped up.
Speaker 1: At word at worst, I.
Speaker 7: Mean fifth round like, but he could I mean, and
it may be somewhere in the middle there between the
day two and and uh kind of a late rounder.
He could be more more mid round, third, fourth. But
there's gonna be someone out there that that wants Jack
Kelly's talents.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, there's no doubt he elevated his rash offs significantly.
Speaker 7: Chase not so much, not not enough. He's gonna need
a good pro day just because he just didn't run.
Speaker 1: He needed a four or five. He needed he needed
across that four to six threshold.
Speaker 4: Surprised by that, I thought he was gonna run a
faster For.
Speaker 7: Well, I think there's top end speed and then there's
ten yard splits. Right, So when you're long legged and
you know Jared, like you know your your tent, your
ten split may not be that good.
Speaker 1: And he's not. I wouldn't say he's an accelerator.
Speaker 7: I think once he gets to his he may be
faster with those long legs after thirty yards because if
you look at like, you know, so when he pulls
away from people, it's like it's after like twenty thirty yards.
Speaker 4: But he wasn't that guy. That wasn't. He wasn't.
Speaker 2: The expectation wasn't that he was gonna catch a deep
ball a guy haven't angle and he was gonna beat
him to the corner, right.
Speaker 4: I mean his knowledge and his size, he can go
up and get the ball.
Speaker 2: But he found ways to get open without having to
use quickness to do it.
Speaker 4: He was smart.
Speaker 2: He knew where the holes were, He knew where the
defense was going, and that's why he got so many catches.
And he found holes in the defense of a lot
of those the plays that he made. And but that's
that's great for the NFL. There are teams that need that,
you know, kind of Cooper Cup type, you know, compared
to Puka, But Puca also has that ability to find
those holes in the in the defense.
Speaker 1: That's why I was surprised he didn't do his agility.
Speaker 4: Drills, right, yeah, yeah, right, that's where he would have shined.
Speaker 7: That's where he would have shot, Like, that's what I predicted.
I was like, look, I don't think it's forty's going
to be all that impressive. I don't think he's like
that fast. I'd be happy if he got if he
if he got under that four to six. But I
was like, he's going to do fantastic in the in
the pro agility and the three cone.
Speaker 1: That's where he thrives because there's a footwork.
Speaker 2: But as a receiver, like you can't not run your forty,
you know, you can't go and get invited to comment
and not run the forty. As a receiver, you are
expected to excel there. And unfortunately he didn't, didn't quite
hit the mark that I thought he could do.
Speaker 1: But let's finish up the K Pop sound defense coordinator
b Yu Reader's.
Speaker 8: How much confidence does that give you as a first
time coordinator for some coordinator BYU to keep somebody key.
Speaker 4: Ingredient to the kitchen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's a big part of it.
Speaker 8: I mean, if it'd be a completely different ball game
if I was dealing with a whole new, you know, roster.
And I think, you know, props of those guys for
believing in the system, believing in Clawney, because a lot
of those guys stayed before I was even announced, So
it wasn't so much.
Speaker 4: To have to do with me.
Speaker 8: I had to do with I think, just what they
love about up this program, what they love about Colonney,
what they love about their teammates, and just what BYU
provides them. And so I was happy to see that
those guys come back and they've been practicing well, and
so it's been fun. You just see those those guys
that have played a lot of football for us out
there together and the way that they're communicating together, the
way they mesh together, I think is uh, yeah, it's
gonna be an advantage for us if we can continue.
Speaker 5: To just stay together and you know, build on that.
So be funny.
Speaker 3: You mentioned that a lot of the players at Argy
sites come back were even games you even have to
have a lot of conversations with certain players and trying.
Speaker 1: To get them there.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's there was a lot of conversation on the
phone before I was officially named, and I was doing
that because I knew I was staying. I don't know,
I didn't know if I was staying as the coordinator
or just staying in as a position coach. But I
knew I was staying here, and I didn't want to
lose any of those guys, no matter what position or
whatever role I had. And so there's a lot of
phone calls. Yeah, And I don't think there's a lot
of convincing I had to do, to be honest with you,
I think for the most part, everybody wanted to stay here,
and they wanted to come back and and try to
finish this thing, you know, better than better than we
did we did a year ago, which is gonna be hard, right.
So that's that's a hard thing to do.
Speaker 4: To win.
Speaker 8: To win ten games in football is really hard to
win eleven. It is extremely hard to win twelve. I mean,
I've only done that's I think the first time in
my career I've ever done that as a player or coach.
So it's it's gonna be a big challenge for us,
and I think just to be able to get all
those pieces back that we've been able to get that
gives us the first start to be able to get there.
But there's a lot of work that we're gonna have
to go through to get to that back to where
we were last season. Kelly, coming out as camp, what
would you like to see the most from your defense
at the very end?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What progress?
Speaker 6: Or yeah?
Speaker 4: For sure?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I would just think I think most coordinators what they
want to see is that the team is going to
mesh together. Well, right, what's our team culture, our team
chemistry is going to be, what's our depth going to be? Like,
we want to be able to build depth, and then
we want to be able to help these older guys
be able to get more and more confident in the scheme.
And so I think for the most part they are.
But the better that you get, it's that much harder
to get better, right, So they're gonna have to work
their butts off to continue to get themselves better and
get our team better. But when we walk out of
here in a couple of weeks, I hope you just
go into the off season knowing that we're really good defense,
and we got really good depth, and that we can
run our scheme and there's a lot of a lot
We've been very simple the first two days and now
we were just telling everybody, here comes the scheme.
Speaker 5: Here it comes.
Speaker 8: There's gonna be installed every single day from here on out.
Different blitz is, different coverages, just a bunch of different fronts.
And so for these new guys, we're not gonna wait
for them. They're gonna have to, you know, stay up
with the rest of the team. And so with the
rest of the team, I'm very confident that we're gonna
be able to We've done Coach Hill. You know, we
played a lot of different stuff, and so that's not
gonna change. Our identity is a part of that. Be
able to play different fronts, be able to play different coverages,
be able to have different blitzes, be able to be
multiple I think that's going to have been one of
our advantages over the last couple of years, and we've
got to continue to.
Speaker 5: Build on that.
Speaker 4: They go.
Speaker 1: That's Kelly Pepinga.
Speaker 4: He sounds extremely excited to me.
Speaker 3: He sounds very very optimistic and excited he's ready for
his defense is absolutely he knows what he is, He's.
Speaker 4: Got stuff, he knows it. He's excited, and you should
be excited to be waving. You should be defense.
Speaker 1: That's very excited, Jared. Any final thoughts before we take
it to break and we'll welcome and Lee Comard on
the flip side.
Speaker 2: You know, I think as as the fans should be
ready for a for a really really well put together team,
coaching staff that's ready to go. And I think this
there's a special feeling with this this group of players
with all the guys coming back, and and I think
we're in for a treat. And and let's see how
the spring continues to roll and looking forward to some
more more practice to see where we're at.
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All right, let's get out to the hotline. Welcome in,
head coach of the BA women's basketball team. Weve got
former bucket getter of Brigham himself. Lee Kamard, head coach
of the women's basketball team.
Speaker 4: What's up league? Not a whole lot?
Speaker 6: How are you doing?
Speaker 7: I'm doing great, man, appreciate you hopping on and talking
some basketball right now. Man, this team great basketball team.
You guys are trending in the right direction. How would
you summarize the season from your purview? From your perch
thus far?
Speaker 6: You know, we've had some really great things happen. We've
had some tough, tough nights, but overall, I think as
a group we're improving. And I mean right now, we
got some momentum going and it's it's really fun. It's
a great group. And just please with how they've progressed
you to this point.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, there's always ups and downs in every season.
Twenty nine, that's a solid record. In the last six,
you guys are three and three. I know you're on
a two game skid right now. UCF and West Virginia competitive,
but just fell short. What happened in those two specific
games that you want to get remedied going into these
final two regular season games versus Sincia and Texas Tech.
Speaker 6: Ben, you should be asking Kay why there are some
of the men's coaches how ma in Kansas City getting
ready for the Big Troll Tournament.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's oh my gosh, that's my bad, dude.
Speaker 4: I'm sitting there.
Speaker 7: I just pulled up the roster are the schedule there,
and it was the wrong shin. I'm like, wait, can
you give me a breakdown right now of how you
feel about your squad though heading into the Big Twelve tournament.
Speaker 6: Like where they're at. We got some momentum going, like
they said, and feel like we have some things to
do that we haven't done in this league yet and
have done some things that we haven't done yet. So
it's really exciting time. This is kind of I mean,
the Big Twelve is just so much fun because on
a given night, you could be playing a top ten
team and you know, or winning on the road at
a place that you haven't won it yet. And one
of the things that we haven't done since doing the
league is winning a conference tournament game, and so that's
kind of where our focus has been since the regular
season ended.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So the three game winning streak though heading into the
Big Twelve Tournament, you thaw Arizona State, Colorado As I mentioned,
you guys are on a steady trajectory right now and
playing with confidence. What has been kind of the difference
in these last three games versus the two prior where
you fell short to Colorado and Cincinnati.
Speaker 6: You know, each of those games kind of had a
different I don't know what you want to call it,
but a turning point or whatever that we're so good
for our group, group and the growth of the group.
You know, we were down significantly at Arizona State at
halftime and came out and I just had a great
second half. And then we had a roll against Colorado
in the third quarter where we gave up from the
field and then just turned it on and flipped it
in the fourth quarter and guarded like crazy and scored
a bunch of points. And then, of course you always
want to beat your rival, but it's been there's been
points into these last three games where you know, maybe
in the regular season we would have kind of just
folded or turned it in for the day, but but
we we we stuck with it and found our shride
and we're able to just stay with it and show
some great and toughness, and I think that's huge for
our group. As we entered the Big Troil Tournament.
Speaker 7: I know, Gabe's been really a great score down the stretch,
taking on maybe a large role more volume. I know,
we all know she's been talented. What growth have you
seen from Gibb.
Speaker 1: Down the stretch.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean she's a tremendous player. And for every
other team that we play, she's the bulls eye player.
She gets all the time and attention. She's the focal point.
And we have some really talented other players. But she's
been tremendous as she's come back from injury and kind
of got her rhythm back and the timing and the
conditioning back. She just is progressing more and more each
day as far as just you know, what we thought
she was going to be all season, and it's really
fun to see and it's I think it's a true
testament to who she is. She's in the gym every
day at eight am and getting extra work in except
for on game days, and never satisfied. You always love
to see hard work get rewarded. And she's just been
tremendous at distributing, scoring, closing out games. I think she's
she's really kind of stride of just closing out games
against big twelve teams, and that's something that she didn't
have to do a whole lot last year, and she's
we've asked her to do it and she's done a
great job. She's obviously had help, but just tremendous player,
and I know, talking with a lot of the coaches
in the league, they just have so much respect for
her and the impact she has on winning.
Speaker 7: You know, there's ebbs and flows in like recruiting and
development within like the traditional byu LDS pipeline, but it
seems like, you know, consecutive years of elite guards that
can come in and score and distribute and make your
team better. At Livy Hamlin is your second leading scorer
and just phenomenal freshman of the Santa Clara, Utah not
too far down, not too far away from from Provo.
You need to have, you know, complimentary pieces to primary
ball header's primary scores, and Oliby has been there for
as a freshman.
Speaker 6: Yeah, live doing great. She continues to get more and
more comfortable at this level. I think over the course
of the last six games, she's averaging seventeen or almost
seventeen a game, which is huge because this league is
so tough, and she's a scorer. Like I mean, every
time I come on here, you call me a bucket getter.
I'm not nearly the bucket getter that she is. She's
a flat out bucket getter. And she just getting more
and more comfortable at this speed, at this athleticism and size,
and look for more of that from her going forward.
Speaker 7: In your first year lead, how would you evaluate and
grade yourself self scout for me your coaching ability thus far?
Speaker 1: Like what have you learned about yourself? You know what
I mean?
Speaker 7: Like if you can kind of introspectively, you're twenty and
ten right now, it's a good first year. Big twelve
basketball is no joke, and give me a little self
scout right now.
Speaker 6: I mean, if you would ask me in September, hey,
you go twenty and ten and nine and nine, I
probably would have taken that. And now that we're here,
there's a couple of games that I would love to
have back, or decisions that I would love to have
backs as it pertains to winning a basketball game. But
I also think that on the normal year, nine to
nine probably finishes better than ninth in the league. And
for our first year for our program. I think it's
I think it's a good place. We got some momentum,
like I said, a solid foundation. That's still I mean,
we'll see what comes up to the end of this year,
but really please with the group that we have and
what we've done with this group. And for me, people
ask me all the time like, hey, what's the biggest difference,
And for me, it's just constantly my brain is just
on something that has to do with a basketball with
the program, so that that that's probably been the most alarming,
uh or not alarming, but just the most biggest change.
Biggest be a difference, uh, And just trying to help players,
to staff and just want to be as successful as possible.
Speaker 1: As a player. I know from personal experience, you were
a gym rat as a coach. You know, you a
film rat? Is that is that what you watch most?
Speaker 4: Though? Is that?
Speaker 7: Where you and kind of like a preparation mindset you
you you talk about you know, like your mind is
always going, so like where do you spend most of
your time?
Speaker 1: Then? Is whatever?
Speaker 6: There's there's film for sure, uh. And sometimes you got
more couple extra days, you know, you play Saturday and
then Wednesday, you got to you got it Sunday to
kind of fill with. But but but just the amount
of time just sitting around thinking about things, you know,
whether it's on the court, off the court, how you
do this, how you do that? You know. I'll just
give you an examples. So we played tomorrow one point thirty.
We have a shoot around time that's early tomorrow morning,
and I have yet to decide are we going to
take the shoot around in the gym or not? Are
we going to err on the side of letting our
players sleep and how important is that to the group?
And do a walk through? So I spend a lot
of time, probably more than I probably should. But as
I go through this the first time, and as we
go through it, as the staff just deciding on certain
things like that, they what's more important, you know? Is
it walking through stuff? Is it getting up and getting
our bodies moving? Is it more sleep? And you're just
racking your brain over what is going to help you
the most. So that's a small example. But I spend
an inordant amount of time on dumb stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And that's not tomb stuff.
Speaker 7: Man, those are competitive, Like we all know, there's a
correlation between like sleep and like energy and mental acuity
and all those things. So no, I think it's it's
bandwidth that's well allocated from a strategy standpoint to get
the most out of your squad, your team. We got
Leekamart head coach b who wins basketball. In prep for
the twenty twenty six Phillips sixty six Big twelve Women's
Basketball Tournament.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be facing Houston.
Speaker 7: It's a one thirty pm Mountain time tip off tomorrow
in Kansas City. ESPN Plus is where you can stream
at Cougarnation, So stay tuned, make sure you got to
that game tuned in and support the Lady Kogs and
Lee Kamar. Give me a scouting report on the Houston
Coogs right now.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we played them once already, but they have three
of their top players suspended from the previous game there
was an altercation, so we're really playing a completely new
team and kind of the message to the group the
whole time has been say people are gonna want to
talk to you about the path to the Big twelve
championship or hey, where you guys ad with the NCAA tournament.
But I just give him a charge today completely focused
on the Houston Cougars and we'll worry about after them,
after them, you know, and they do a great job
and it's something that we're not really it's not our strength,
you know. They just try to beat you off the
balance and cross you up and get to the paint.
And we got to do a good job of keeping
our chest in front of the person that we're guarding
and make them score over us. They they're really really good.
I get into the foul line to score as well,
and that's going to be a factor. And just their
athleticism and length is you know, been troublesome for us
against you know, length and athleticism this season. So we
got to work cut out for us, and for them,
they kind of get kind of a whole new breath
of life, you know starting the postseason and they didn't
have a great regular season, but uh, for them, they
they're coming in guns blazing and they know that they
can reinvigorate kind of their season, uh with with a
couple of wins. So that that's kind of been the focus.
And then just trying to keep them mentally fresh and
physically fresh.
Speaker 4: Lead question for you, Uh, I'm a big social media guy.
Speaker 2: I saw the b A women's basketball team yesterday was
all talking about their pre you know game hype song.
Speaker 1: I need to know what is coach Kamares pre game.
I need to know.
Speaker 6: You want you want to know it as a player,
as a coach.
Speaker 4: Both b O F F both coach.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: I mean, of course there's some jay Z as a player,
and but I shouldn't say that I liked everybody back
in the day, little Wayne jay Z, Rick Ross.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: You can throw some country in there, a lot lot
slower and more relaxing now with probably some country, some
Luke Combe, some Cody Johnson, some some Lee Brice occasional
show tunes in there, and I feel like I need
a little little little bump maybe uh baby team and
Kendrick Lamar family ties or something.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 7: There you go get the playlists, share it publicly. I
want I want that Lee Klamar playlist prior to tip
off so we can get in the right mindset prior
to this Houston game.
Speaker 1: A couple less things before we let you go.
Speaker 7: Appreciate you hopping on to give us an update on
your on your squad and obviously what they've accomplished as
far and what what you have planned for this team
in the in the Big twelfth tournament. Do you feel
like this women's team can go deep in this Big
twelfth tournament?
Speaker 1: Okay? And if so, what will it look like? You know, how,
how will you guys get there?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I think we have the capability of it in I'm
gonna been you know, I'm not going to go there.
I'm going to give you the cliche answer. We gotta
we gotta focus on the Houston Cougers. I know, but
but but but truly, Uh, we have yet to win
a game in this tournament, you know, and that that's
a data point.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: Twenty games was something that we didn't like set out
to do, but it's something that we have yet to
do in a while. And going five hundred in league,
and you know, we wanted to finish in the top eight.
We're just outside of it and win a game in
a Big twelve tournament, and obviously we want to get
to the NCAA tournament. So a win tomorrow would be
huge because it's just something we have yet to do
or just kind of and not that that's good enough
or but it's just you know, we want to continue
to climb and achieve some of those points along the
way that have yet.
Speaker 4: To be done.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I want to celebrate that real quick.
Speaker 7: You know that that win threshold and look, we're not
you know, there's still work to be done, and I
understand that, but it's it's pretty impressive. I remember during
the Dave Rose era, right, we were talking about all
the consecutive twenty plus win seasons and it was like
a benchmark. Right, it was a it was quota, man,
it was quota. It was the expectation. So I know
you got high expectations for your squad. And I'm looking
at everything within BA Athletics, I'm looking at the recruiting,
I'm looking at the resources, and like, when you envision
the future of BA women's basketball, can we do you
believe that that can be the quota?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 7: It was something that you were well familiarly familiar with
in your era going forward and to the fans and
listeners and the donors and the corporate sponsors, et cetera.
Like it's one of the reasons why I believe, Hey,
you guys should buy into this is my pitch. Do
you buy into lee Ca mardin this BA Win's basketball
team because of the expectation, the vision, the standard.
Speaker 6: You know, I believe it will become kind of the
norm for a program. And it is about winning for sure,
Like it's about winning. But I love that we've continued
to get better as the season's gone. We've had some
setbacks and we've got shown great resilience of getting up
after you know, we got pounded at Colorado and then
came home and lost a close one to one of
the lower end teams of the league as far as
the standings are concerned, and had staring at our arrival
on the road, and ever was going to stay on
the road and that team again, and we could have
been like great, great year, you know, and they just
they just continue to fight and I'm glad to see
them rewarded. I do think it will become more of
the norm, and it has been. You know, the Jetty
era was filled with twenty plus win seasons and it's
just a thing where in this league if you can
and finish five hundred or above, your staring NCAA tournament
straight in the face, and you know, we just want
to continue to climb, you know whatever that looks like, Hey,
we finished ninth this year. Can we improve that next year?
And we finished twenty wins? Can we improve that? And
you know, however many games we win in the Big
twelve Tournament, can we improve on that? And I think
if we stay there, we got got some good things happening.
I think it will, it will, it will be great.
Speaker 7: Lee, good luck versus Houston, and I can't wait to
watch them all on ESPN Plus on the stream take
down them devis Houston Cougar tomorrow.
Speaker 6: Thank you, appreciate it. They go.
Speaker 7: That's Lee Kamart, head coach BAU women's basketball. They're twenty
and ten heading into the Big twelfth Tournament. We wish
them luck. They got a good squad.
Speaker 1: I think they can go deeply in the Big twelfth Tournament.
But one at a time.
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