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<v Speaker 1>You're watching Chewing the Cud with Mike Benin Rowe and

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<v Speaker 1>Ven Smith. And it wasn't until I wiped it off

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<v Speaker 1>and gave it a little sniff that even realized it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, hello and welcome to Cheering the Cud.

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<v Speaker 1>This week, I'm joined by a musical maestro that is

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<v Speaker 1>Ven Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hello, let's going to the show. Thanks so much,

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<v Speaker 2>lovely to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>I like it when people lie to us. It is lovely,

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<v Speaker 3>that's true. What have you got for us this week?

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<v Speaker 2>So this week I'm talking about celebrity's brother who is

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<v Speaker 2>stealing the limelight. And then we have a game to play.

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<v Speaker 2>In our Game of the week, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to jazz hands, but I added that in

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<v Speaker 2>jazz hands are welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't do them.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's before we get all up close and personal

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<v Speaker 1>with Ven in spotlight on screen. Now you can see

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<v Speaker 1>our social media just search for at the Cud TV and.

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<v Speaker 2>As people who have popped up in our comments go

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<v Speaker 2>along the bottom of the screen, it's time.

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<v Speaker 3>For Mike in the buzz.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about nature documentaries? I love that

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<v Speaker 1>nature documentaryburgh.

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<v Speaker 2>Attinburough on a Sunday feels like a nice way to

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<v Speaker 2>run off the week. Mild hangover, David. Sometimes it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a way for me to fall asleep, but I also

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just story about some whales who have been caught

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<v Speaker 1>at it, shall we say, for the first time, and

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<v Speaker 1>just off the coast of Maui, so on a nice holiday,

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<v Speaker 1>and they looked went, oh, look, wales at it. We've

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<v Speaker 1>not had wales on camera having sex before. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>then they went, oh no, there's two boys male humpback

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<v Speaker 1>whales literally humping back.

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<v Speaker 3>Goodness. Did they give consent to this filming?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so, because they didn't stop going no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no consent is given. But yeah, it's two whales. One

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<v Speaker 1>almost decided to be an older gentleman whale and one's

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<v Speaker 1>quite a young Okay, generational intergenerational whaling exactly. And the

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<v Speaker 1>twink was topping. That was what came out of it all.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, hang me with quite a lot faxy. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what to pick up on. Okay, well, okay, well yeah, lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, wow, Okay, captured captured for the world. That's

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<v Speaker 1>actually the nicest picture I could find of it. There

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<v Speaker 1>were so quite intimate ones and they're going I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we need to see penetration.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, well done. You specific website, very.

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<v Speaker 1>Specific website, Yes, humpback dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>Not what you're thinking of looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>Whales only fins only nice.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know what they did with the blowhole.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, so this is the first ever whial intercourse, intercourse

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<v Speaker 1>that's been captured on thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gay and it happened to be gay. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently some right wing people are saying that they were

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<v Speaker 1>just playing because they're not homosexual, because they're whales. Just

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<v Speaker 1>good friends, just good friends, yeah, lifelong bachelors. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>the phrases.

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<v Speaker 3>Their partners in work. I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>What do wales do for it?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to ask that question.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually yeah, wow, okay, but it just made me smile.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that you know whales are at it, which

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<v Speaker 1>we know that they are, but the fact that the first.

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<v Speaker 3>Ones on film were actually gay, gosh, and well, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it seems like a nice spot for them to have

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<v Speaker 3>been doing it as well. Vacation honeymoon perhaps.

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<v Speaker 1>Possibly maybe who's got the money though, Well, interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know that intergenerational thing there as well, that

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<v Speaker 2>is also quite interesting. And you know, flipping expectations. Who

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<v Speaker 2>might be topic exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I googled twink top. Great, that came up. Progressive

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<v Speaker 1>wheels exactly, that's what we like to see. Yeah, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel about zombie apocalypses?

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<v Speaker 3>Love, that's brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got some special guests, so they want to eat brides.

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<v Speaker 3>Bring out.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you prepared for a zombie apocalypse? Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as much as I'll ever be. The world seems a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of apocalyptic sometimes anyway, you know, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>When Putin decided that he wanted a bit of the Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 1>I googled what I should do to protect myself from

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<v Speaker 1>a nuclear bomb, and.

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<v Speaker 2>There were two things that came up.

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<v Speaker 1>One was trying to find yourself somewhere away from windows,

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<v Speaker 1>like the middle of the house, where possible, and that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Another one basically said you were so which did you

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<v Speaker 3>go with?

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<v Speaker 1>I started to clean out the bottom of mustairs, so

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<v Speaker 1>I got under the stays cupboard and I went, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot of work close the though it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>not bother where's the gin.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>In case of zombie apocalypse, some research has been done

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<v Speaker 1>about where the blessed place to be is? Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>where do you think the best place to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the UK is?

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<v Speaker 2>If there's in the UK? Oh wow, Okay, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to say some sort of Ireland island maybe. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>good news is that the entire UK is an island.

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<v Speaker 3>You are spot on the shock. I am learning a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually Scotland all right, they said the best place to

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<v Speaker 1>be I might know something about that. It's actually the

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<v Speaker 1>Highlands of Scotland basically because it's it's not very densely populated, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's lots of things to eat that's in animals

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<v Speaker 1>and fruit, not Scott's that's what they might be eating

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<v Speaker 1>you already zombie delicious delicious brains. But they said steer

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<v Speaker 1>away from cities, right and they've actually said Lewisham, Tower

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<v Speaker 1>Hamlets and Newham are the worst places to be, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>really specific, very specific right on what it does. They've

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<v Speaker 1>basically graded on population density, access to raw materials, fresh

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<v Speaker 1>water and that sort of thing. Okay, And basically if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the central London, yes, screwed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, I mean sometimes does feel like a zombie

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<v Speaker 2>apocalypse in London anyway, I lived for ten years Tube

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<v Speaker 2>some mornings are people alive.

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on? Is that weird?

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<v Speaker 1>It's still warm but quite cold at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>and they get that smell.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very particular London.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone has actually bad so maybe it's already happening. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's just going on. Well no, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>have you ever been to the Highlands.

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<v Speaker 3>I have been to the Highlands, so you know, beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>place directly apocalypse as well. You know, you could find

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<v Speaker 3>a little a little shack somewhere up the mountain on

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<v Speaker 3>the loch, maybe a handsome Scottish you know, your back

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<v Speaker 3>to porn thing again. Maybe you'll find a whale or No.

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<v Speaker 1>I've just realized Ness is a zombie. That's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be good. She'll never never see NeSSI attack you

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<v Speaker 1>because you can never spot No.

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<v Speaker 3>But did you hear that they caught NeSSI having sex recently?

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<v Speaker 1>Googles surprisingly, and you'd be surprised what shows up on

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<v Speaker 1>my googlest Great, well.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean lovely, there's well, if Scottland becomes independent, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Because zombies taking it could be a whole other thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, lovely, great, perfect And if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>see zombie NeSSI having sex with another zombie NeSSI, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't share it with us at the kod TV on

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<v Speaker 1>social media? And that brings us nicely to our story

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<v Speaker 1>of the week, nicely to stretch there.

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<v Speaker 3>Smoothly.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever sold anything online?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yes, I have.

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<v Speaker 2>I sell music because I am sim so I have

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<v Speaker 2>sold Are you talking like physical things can talk about?

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<v Speaker 2>I've sold some CDs online. I don't think i've sawd

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<v Speaker 2>the anything else. I never really got into the hall.

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<v Speaker 2>Can it be that a lot of world stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? What's this?

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<v Speaker 1>Young lady called Chang Wing Lee from Singapore decided she

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<v Speaker 1>was a bit strapped for cash.

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<v Speaker 3>Thought, you know, I'm an influencer.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to sell something that people can get exclusively

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<v Speaker 1>from me.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I was selling two hundred and thirty seven pounds.

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<v Speaker 3>Jars of farts.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, yeah, okay, she's sold out very quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yes.

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<v Speaker 1>People were saying that, you know, I just bought it

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<v Speaker 1>for the curiosity to wonder what they smell like and

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<v Speaker 1>the answer is a fart. But yeah, she was telling

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<v Speaker 1>people to get them quick because they only have a shelf.

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<v Speaker 3>Life for thirty days.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it's been tried and tested, apparently so used by

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<v Speaker 2>day to fart in the jar industry is thirty days.

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<v Speaker 3>Very it seems quite long. I don't know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it feels like one of the things.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, a couple of one of those things

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<v Speaker 2>like as a kid, it's like you don't smell my fart,

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<v Speaker 2>or like your fired under the DV.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, cheve someone's head under there. But I feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>You still hear.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>She's also said you can customize them art for an

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<v Speaker 1>extra three hundred and ninety five pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, sorry, I was customized the parts. I was thinking

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<v Speaker 2>customizing the jar. She's not any glue. What would you

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<v Speaker 2>like them to smell of?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And she said for an extra seven hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>eighty nine pounds you could have an additional surprise and a.

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<v Speaker 3>Photo of it happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, that Pine is spending like just over a

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<v Speaker 1>grandle the pictures one's asshole.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but what is the surprise?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm just saying surprise.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a curry. There are some choices.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but she has said she was restocking soon. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but perhaps she must be some beans to see what happens. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, entrepreneur, Yeah, I think it's just a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of dirty old mentor or want to smell something that's

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<v Speaker 1>been round in other regions.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well you know, I mean that is that's just

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<v Speaker 3>an industry, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ostream Someone's offered me money to buy my old underwear

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<v Speaker 1>and did you I sent them my old underwear?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you get paid? Now? You were jeped? I was jeeped.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah sorry, Oh wait, pe Daddy forty two if

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<v Speaker 1>you're still watching, you only twenty quid.

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<v Speaker 3>They wore knock off Calvin's. Anyway, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's all for the bus this week.

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<v Speaker 3>Well thanks for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Information overloads from Wales to farts.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all evolves the bottom. But coming up next we

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<v Speaker 1>You're watching you in the cud with then and Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's get ready for the show biz with then.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So first one up, Miley Cyrus fan. Are

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<v Speaker 3>you a fan?

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<v Speaker 1>I like the fact she she sang a song about

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<v Speaker 1>being a wrecking ball? Yes, because it was quite easy

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<v Speaker 1>to change that to a wrecking hole.

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<v Speaker 3>Great. Yeah, she's done some other songs since then.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, all right, I'm not down with a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>She did that one about the song about the thing

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<v Speaker 1>and the buying herself flowers.

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<v Speaker 2>That was like last year's kind of song that was everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>But she has just released a new one which is

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<v Speaker 2>called Doctor in brackets work it Out.

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>She talked about pro lapse.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what it's about. It's an interesting title.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, song wise, this isn't actually the story, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna talk about the song. I'd say it's quite

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<v Speaker 2>hard to beat Wrecking Ball and Flour, both legitimate pop hits.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say, I'm not sure how successful this one is.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard it? Well, there's a new video and

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<v Speaker 2>she's looking great in the video, dancing around quite a

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<v Speaker 2>sort of shimmy shiny shaky like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are the most That's what I supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 3>But perhaps this is all a distraction from some family

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<v Speaker 3>drama that's going on behind the scenes. That's right, so

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<v Speaker 3>I know what is going on. Well, Mum Tish Cyrus

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<v Speaker 3>Stole Dominic Purcell, who was Miley's sister Noah's partner.

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<v Speaker 2>So mom has stolen daughter's partner. Here is here's Mum

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<v Speaker 2>and daughter Noah.

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<v Speaker 3>She already doesn't look please.

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<v Speaker 1>No, she does not looks marvelous, but doesn't look pleased.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know when this was taken. During the ceiling

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<v Speaker 1>there's a little leopard skin song.

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<v Speaker 3>She's well, so yeah, so now Mom is with with

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<v Speaker 3>this this partner. So it seems a bit messy, and

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know how. I mean, that's just Miley.

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<v Speaker 2>She's just dancing and maybe not caring so much about

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<v Speaker 2>the family drama. She's doing very well, i'd say, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, perhaps not avoiding the discussion. Maybe it's awkward

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<v Speaker 2>around the dinner table in the Stire's home.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>So apparently, like Mum has opened up about relationship and

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<v Speaker 2>has followed on Instagram saying that he slid into the

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<v Speaker 2>d ms apparently. I mean, how do you feel about

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<v Speaker 2>sort of stealing boyfriends in general?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean people seeing my boyfriends obviously other people, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's a very different thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go with you stealing people's boyfriends.

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<v Speaker 1>First, I tend to return them. I don't steal them.

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<v Speaker 1>I borrow them.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have them.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a library.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh nice, I take my card, I swipe it and

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<v Speaker 1>take them out to take Rember live days later, take

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<v Speaker 1>about five days later, a massive fine. It's like I think,

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<v Speaker 1>if the relationship is an open relationship and everyone's happy

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<v Speaker 1>about that, then that's perfectly fine.

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<v Speaker 3>If it's a monogamous relationship, then probably not someone.

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<v Speaker 2>How'd you feel about stealing partners from family members?

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<v Speaker 3>Have you done that?

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<v Speaker 1>Luckily, everybody in my family is either with a woman

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<v Speaker 1>or with a Minger, So I'm okay, are they watching?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that means okay, to be fine, So this is

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<v Speaker 3>is not not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not going to be stealing anybody. Plus, plus

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<v Speaker 1>we're all of a certain age. Now that yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>should we see if he's a Minger?

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<v Speaker 2>In your.

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<v Speaker 3>Opinion, how are you feeling? He looks comfortable? What does

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<v Speaker 3>that mean? That's it on? It looks comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>So from zero too would sit on it, would sit

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<v Speaker 2>on it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, no, from zero to would ride It is about.

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<v Speaker 3>In the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, okay, find good getting to know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she seems to know slightly.

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<v Speaker 2>Concerned, that was what it says.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, I'd say.

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<v Speaker 1>He's significantly older than my sister though, yeah, in his fifties.

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<v Speaker 2>To that, well, hey, if the whales can do it,

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<v Speaker 2>the ciruses can do it too.

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<v Speaker 3>So moving on to the next story. Samahayak Okay. Who's she?

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<v Speaker 2>She is beautiful actress, appeared in many things including American

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<v Speaker 2>Horror Story amongst amongst other TV programs films. She's very like,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of honest and open on her social media as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Was she the one that doesn't use any filters when

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<v Speaker 1>she's doing it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly stuff and so actually, so this story is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of related to that kind of thing. That she's

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<v Speaker 2>sharing a hack for her hair, which has gone a

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<v Speaker 2>bit viral and people were like, oh my goodness, So

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<v Speaker 2>it's so real.

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<v Speaker 1>Is she doing a share? She's shaving up on my wigs?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and no's not.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I started doing, but I didn't have the

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<v Speaker 1>money for a week some half share.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I think both of us are really

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<v Speaker 2>interested in the story about how we can maintain our hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Beard her, Yeah, this could actually, this trick could work

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<v Speaker 2>for that as well. So basically it is using the

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<v Speaker 2>scare to cover up the grades. And so she was

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<v Speaker 2>doing this instead of I don't know, dying or putting

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<v Speaker 2>on a wig.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember the early two thousands hair messcour I

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<v Speaker 1>do not remember that, So Christina I can learned, just

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<v Speaker 1>like the little colorful things and there. Oh yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I used to be literally brush and he used to

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<v Speaker 1>just rub it in.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you use that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's what happened. Don't use it kids. This is

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<v Speaker 1>it happened to me too.

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<v Speaker 3>That blocked out.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a you know, hair trauma.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the scar would work on beards though,

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<v Speaker 1>if you go with the ginger, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, you can dye your beard. Have you

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<v Speaker 3>ever considered that?

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<v Speaker 1>I have a few gray they're not even the white

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<v Speaker 1>hairs that appear in my beard.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't see them. You've covered them with I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a few few grays going in there as well, noddings.

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<v Speaker 3>You can see them. So maybe I should a couple of.

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<v Speaker 2>Hours looking as well on one.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, you didn't provide me any, misscar when

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<v Speaker 1>I arrived to the studio, so we don't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's your fault.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, Moving on, So mcaulay culkin home alone has many brothers,

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<v Speaker 2>the story. Are you ready for this? It's quite a

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<v Speaker 2>big story. It might shock your world. One of his

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<v Speaker 2>brothers is hot. Okay, that as far as I can gather,

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<v Speaker 2>is the story. So not mad about it.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the younger brother there's like seven brothers in.

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<v Speaker 1>The ok so, he didn't have a TV when he's

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<v Speaker 2>So this younger brother is Rory thirty four and has

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<v Speaker 2>been sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>His younger brothers. Yeah, just it feels wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it does feel wrong. So when when mccula cochin

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<v Speaker 2>was doing all the home alones and this is the

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<v Speaker 2>brother here? Okay, long hair, family resemblance, long hair. I

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get it. Yeah, lots of family resemblance. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like maybe just every few years is just like

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<v Speaker 2>a new brother that gets the hot hot, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hot story. So I guess it's Rory's turn. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was a kid I was people often thought

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<v Speaker 2>I looked like McCauley in his Home Alone era.

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<v Speaker 3>Really obviously things have changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you do an impression of mccallay Colin and Home Alone?

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<v Speaker 1>So no is the answer. What's my addition tape to

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<v Speaker 1>be the next hot mcaulay culkin brother.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's not worth.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean, how do you feel? I mean

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<v Speaker 2>from zero to what was your what's going on here?

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<v Speaker 1>I do that in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, do they still hear?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they still here? Are they still here?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this like a bra Is this in a film?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this just? I don't know?

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<v Speaker 1>Because he had from what has recently been in an

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon Prime show?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I.

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<v Speaker 2>All I know about this is a bowl of strawberries.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard any more about this? So I like a strawberry.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you might like them even more or less. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>So apparently in this show, whatever the show is, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a scene where he presses himself naked against a bowl of.

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<v Speaker 3>Strawberries and you can sort of see everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it is you can see everything, or you can

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<v Speaker 1>see outline of everything. It's like the strawberry version of

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<v Speaker 1>Great Sweatpants.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is the strawberry version of Grace. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. Actually I've not I've not watched it yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's like, yeah, it's like the break. I might

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<v Speaker 1>so you come back slightly out of breath and tie

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<v Speaker 1>after the break. We know why exactly. Here's the family.

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<v Speaker 3>I means I guess that's that's McCaulay Oviously, that's my

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<v Speaker 3>guess that's worry. Yeah, parents, I think they're all a

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<v Speaker 3>bit strange though, so from the mom and.

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<v Speaker 1>Died he said strange for a second, like, yes, very strange.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the bit of a family break down,

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<v Speaker 1>well divorced his parents didn't, yes, because.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to sort of suit maybe like sued them

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<v Speaker 2>as well. It's quite a big big thing during he

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<v Speaker 2>was only in his teenage years anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I'm just trying to work out how hotly brother

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<v Speaker 1>was because there he doesn't look like a kid that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to grow up hot like the Beckhams when they

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<v Speaker 1>all had children. They all look like they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>grow up decent looking kids. That's a very nineties picture.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very nice, very nice picture. Yeah, so you

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<v Speaker 1>get to see do it look like a colcn yet?

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<v Speaker 3>But we look slightly related? That's so. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So so the air is saying shouting swarm in my ear.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yes, the swarm is the show the Strawberries.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what. I don't know what starm is about.

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<v Speaker 3>I know the ones.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's like all these things there it's like

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<v Speaker 2>before I was going to call it bath water.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how much.

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<v Speaker 1>Burn because you could have a crossover where they have

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<v Speaker 1>strawberries in the bath.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, strawberries and bath strawberries and cream.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, oh no, well you know so some of these

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<v Speaker 2>things you know, you know the scenes before you know

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<v Speaker 2>what actual things about.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually watched Albourne. I have watched Slburn. Yes, I watched it.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched it alone after seeing all these people being

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<v Speaker 2>like all.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched with my family at Christmas. So yeah, I

433
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<v Speaker 3>told my parents to watch it. Okay they haven't yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it is it on the Amazon. Yes, tell them

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<v Speaker 1>to watch Swarm as well. Brothers, Peter, no watch this then,

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<v Speaker 1>Well there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that is all the shubbers that I can

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<v Speaker 3>bring you from now.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for that as we all go off and

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<v Speaker 1>watch Swarm and back tissues from somewhere and stick around

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<v Speaker 1>because coming up next we have our game of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>You're watching you in the cud and it's that time

443
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<v Speaker 1>when we all have to reach into our wallets and

444
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<v Speaker 1>whip it out for our annual I mean annual renewal. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to get your l G B t Q

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<v Speaker 1>I A plus license renewed. So we're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>some cramming with you as we play gay or nay,

448
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<v Speaker 1>and then this one's off for you to start us off.

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<v Speaker 3>If you go, thank you, try not to flash you

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<v Speaker 3>as I leave.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh day of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>So this week we've got some gay trivia's historical fact

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<v Speaker 1>and factoids. Okay, I'm going to ask you one then

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're going to do me. Okay as in questions,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, cool, So are.

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<v Speaker 3>You ready as I'll ever be good?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, there's a lighthearted quiz in sixteen forty eight, which

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<v Speaker 1>was just a recently only eighteen years before Cronenberg was invented.

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<v Speaker 3>The obea drinker was just boring.

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<v Speaker 1>In New France, a military drama received what sentence for

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<v Speaker 1>being homosexual?

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<v Speaker 3>What sentence for being homosexual?

463
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<v Speaker 2>Some sort of terrible punishment that they no longer existed

464
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<v Speaker 2>on this earth.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't have to listen to the new Malisarasol.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically because she wasn't around share though, fourth album sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty four whatever, it was sixty fourteen, So he was

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<v Speaker 1>given a choice of punishments in itself.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a nice start.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he could accept a new position first as executioner

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<v Speaker 1>for the colony, right, what'll be put to death?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's flawed because if you need a new executioner,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to choose be put to death, aren't you? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I choose to be put to death. You've not got

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<v Speaker 1>an executioner, I've or coat shop.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, yeah, it's clever. You would have done well during

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<v Speaker 2>that period of time.

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<v Speaker 1>I would not have done well during that period of time.

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<v Speaker 3>Just because there was no grinder. There was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just an analogue or when you're actually grinding,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you could, you know, have a wink across

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<v Speaker 2>the fire pit?

484
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<v Speaker 1>What across the fire pit?

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<v Speaker 2>If the waiting salt, but a wink?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Okay? At this head, do you have a question

487
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<v Speaker 3>for me? So?

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen fifty seven, the report of the Departmental Committee

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<v Speaker 2>on Homosexual Offenses and Prostitution was released for all to

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<v Speaker 2>read by What name was this report better known?

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a report about gay men and prostitutes?

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<v Speaker 2>When was it from two thousand or something?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it grinderw twenty one? Nineteen fifty seven?

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen fifty seven, you were what in your third was

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<v Speaker 1>the second time I was in my thirty here. Just

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<v Speaker 1>remember that I'm only five years older than you.

497
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<v Speaker 3>Drag you down with me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fine, I would say the New York Times.

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<v Speaker 2>No, okay, the name of this report not the New

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<v Speaker 2>York Times. But the name is the wolf Wolf Report.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that bringing any bells?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I say the Wolfenden Report, like off wolf the Wolf? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the wolfing Reports Report at fit Wolf.

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<v Speaker 3>So this was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Document prepared by somebody called Wolfingdon. He's a lord, Lord

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<v Speaker 2>of the Wolf. I don't know if it's a placer.

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<v Speaker 2>That's his name, Lord Wolfingdon. It's rather common occurrence for

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<v Speaker 2>reports of long wintered titles to referred to by shorter

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<v Speaker 2>catch your name. And that's the case, which is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>strange that you've not remembered this.

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<v Speaker 1>Catch title exactly, But I'm not going to forget the

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<v Speaker 1>thing you Bobby report ever again exactly Wolf just wolf.

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<v Speaker 2>Not related to the quiz. I just wanted to whiff

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<v Speaker 2>at you, right, okay? Are you ready for me to

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<v Speaker 2>do you?

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<v Speaker 3>I am prepped and ready. That's that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very rare that I say that. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>feel privileged once a year, if that right? Which very famous.

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<v Speaker 1>CNN reporter came out in twenty twelve CNN Zach standing

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<v Speaker 1>for something you know, interesting cartoon Network News who came

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<v Speaker 1>out a reporter, mister news. He was known as the

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<v Speaker 1>Silver Fox of News, which is interesting because he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>on Fox News.

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<v Speaker 3>The other one that wasn't on Fox News.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one. Yeah, Gillian Cooper. No, not Jillian Cooper.

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<v Speaker 1>Anderson Cooper. Yeah, okay, Jillian Cooper's one.

527
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<v Speaker 3>Very different. He's Jillian Cooper.

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<v Speaker 1>He should do the Wine Show Monday, just before songs

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<v Speaker 1>are praise before he did on CNN.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm clever, I'm professional.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the anchor of CNN's Anderson Cooper three sixty show.

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<v Speaker 1>Risingly modest, but yeah. He gave permission for someone else

534
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<v Speaker 1>to publish an email regarding his sexual orientation, which is

535
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<v Speaker 1>nice to get a bit consent.

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<v Speaker 3>He gave.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like that email was already going to go

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<v Speaker 2>out and he then kind of just.

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<v Speaker 3>Had to give, yeah, all right, then do that then. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's happened.

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<v Speaker 1>With some pictures of mine, but different reasons. Anyway, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>ready if you want to do me.

543
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<v Speaker 3>Now, I am ready to do you.

544
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<v Speaker 2>Good members, So deep breath, breath, Relax, relax. This is

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<v Speaker 2>all about the penal code, something I'm sure familiar with

546
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<v Speaker 2>under its new penal code of seventeen ninety one. Insert

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<v Speaker 2>age related joke. Which European country was the first to

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<v Speaker 2>criminalize homosexuality under its penal code?

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00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:32.160
<v Speaker 3>Penal code? Penal code? Which we're looking for a country? Here? Country?

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<v Speaker 3>The name of a country.

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00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:40.119
<v Speaker 1>Penal code you know, tree code, country, you know, penal.

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<v Speaker 2>Penal country, penal country code.

553
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:50.799
<v Speaker 3>Oh, homosexuality Netherlands. Why did you choose that country?

554
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<v Speaker 1>Because I can, and because I thought that they're very

555
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<v Speaker 1>They're very pro gay, very pro pot, very pro everything.

556
00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:05.000
<v Speaker 3>So wow, you're wrong. Well I'm not going to take it.

557
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Russia. Surprisingly, Yes, Russia is near the Netherlands.

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<v Speaker 3>It is France.

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<v Speaker 2>So this was France's first national pinal code, adopted during

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<v Speaker 2>the French Revolution. It had a sponsor, apparently, Louis Michelle

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<v Speaker 2>Pelletier said they only punished true crimes, not the artificial

562
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<v Speaker 2>offense is condemned, condemned by superstition. I'm quite enjoying, Louis

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<v Speaker 2>Michelle Pelletier. I feel like at least a strong ally,

564
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<v Speaker 2>if not enjoying the pinal code.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, one of of us.

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<v Speaker 3>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Well done, France, Well done, France's that's shocking, clebian.

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<v Speaker 3>What is your view on penal reform?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I don't discriminate if it's uno really

570
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<v Speaker 1>whatever makes you feel comfortable.

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00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:09.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, open views there, Yeah, it.

572
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<v Speaker 1>All tastes the same.

573
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<v Speaker 3>So is this a cooking show as well? Is exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to stage a guy whose nickname was phil Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>his name was Mark, but we'll call him phil as

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<v Speaker 1>in Philadelphia because he had lots.

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<v Speaker 2>Of anyway.

578
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:32.160
<v Speaker 3>In that film.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's the one I know him. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So watch was the very first country to introduce same

581
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<v Speaker 1>sex marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're like, yeah, I actually know this. Can you like,

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<v Speaker 2>can you give me some clues? Your name like areas

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<v Speaker 2>of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>It has borders and people which live within it.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

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00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:06.279
<v Speaker 1>It also had a penal code along the front and

588
00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:10.039
<v Speaker 1>is part of Europe. Okay, is it the Netherlands? And

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00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:14.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe this is where you guessed your guest. Now this

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<v Speaker 1>is the weird thing, right it was actually Russia? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>it was Netherlands, of course it was Netherlands. Well done,

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<v Speaker 1>you got it right. Yeah, that's the first time that

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<v Speaker 1>we've got right, which means currently you are outgaining me.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah well, it's just quite hard to do. That's very

595
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<v Speaker 3>hard to do because the right sneeze glitter.

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<v Speaker 1>But stick around because next we're going to get all

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<v Speaker 1>up close and personal with Vent and Spotlight. Welcome back

598
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>to you in the CUD. Now, after we've tested each

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00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:55.880
<v Speaker 1>other's knowledge, it's time we're going to get all up

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<v Speaker 1>in his business as we talked to Vent in Spotlight.

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<v Speaker 1>So welcome, Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you enjoyed yourself so far? I have enjoyed myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I've learned a lot. I've left. I've enjoyed. Okay, do

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<v Speaker 3>you like it when people like to me? I do?

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<v Speaker 3>I do?

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't it's not that important, you know.

607
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<v Speaker 3>It happens to everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I take it as a compliment.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all great lives. So you are a musician, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>I am a singer, songwriter and saxophonist.

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<v Speaker 1>I do love the word saxophone. Saxhone's a good instrument.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's always it's always popular. I did learn

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<v Speaker 1>to play it, well, I tried to learn to play it.

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<v Speaker 1>That The exact thing I got back was you're good.

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<v Speaker 1>You give me a good try.

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<v Speaker 3>For a percussionist, Well, you know, I mean for a percussionists.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so you don't just pick up the saxophone randomly.

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<v Speaker 3>You went to university with it on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So I have been doing music since I was

620
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<v Speaker 2>a wee lad. I first, I think I started on

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<v Speaker 2>the piano and didn't get very far of that because

622
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<v Speaker 2>my teacher was quite scary and told me I should

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<v Speaker 2>give up at like the age of seven. But thankfully

624
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<v Speaker 2>I did not give up, and yeah, I kept on going.

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<v Speaker 2>So I always really enjoyed, like just making things up.

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<v Speaker 2>I think was my my thing about music. And then yeah,

627
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<v Speaker 2>went to UNI, studied classical music and did saxophone and composition,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I've kind of continued on in various different ways.

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<v Speaker 2>But now i'd say my stuff is very much in

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<v Speaker 2>the pop world and kind of queer pop.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say that's where we're okay, Well, what makes your

632
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<v Speaker 3>pop queer? Me?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess I am writing about, you know, stuff

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<v Speaker 2>from my perspective as a gay man and about what

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>See in my experience of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And but also I think pop music is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>inherently queer in another and actually from a long time

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<v Speaker 2>I probably didn't like release stuff that was like really

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of poppy stuff that I wanted to release,

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<v Speaker 2>possibly because I felt like I had to be a

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<v Speaker 2>bit more serious and be like a singer songwriter and

643
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:15.039
<v Speaker 2>all that kind of stuff, which I do love sometimes,

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00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:18.239
<v Speaker 2>but also like I could have fully embraced the synths

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<v Speaker 2>and the dancing and like the kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Of ridiculous of ridiculousness of pop music. But also it's

647
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<v Speaker 3>a great way to get across some important messages hidden

648
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<v Speaker 3>inside some some pop music.

649
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, cool, So do you do you slip a lot

650
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<v Speaker 1>of like hidden messages in or.

651
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<v Speaker 3>Slip a lot of things in? Yeah? I yeah, well

652
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<v Speaker 3>I do.

653
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<v Speaker 2>I guess some hidden I do. I do enjoy metaphor,

654
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:43.719
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I mean. And so an album I released

655
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<v Speaker 2>last year which is like my debut album as this

656
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<v Speaker 2>project of Vent Smith, and some of it is about

657
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:53.719
<v Speaker 2>like coming out and experiencing kind of growing up in

658
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:57.280
<v Speaker 2>my teenage years. Some of it's around more personal stuff

659
00:35:57.280 --> 00:35:59.519
<v Speaker 2>around and be like mental health and relationships. Some of

660
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:05.119
<v Speaker 2>it's just about really rubbish boyfriends and other things in

661
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:06.360
<v Speaker 2>the world that I'm going to see.

662
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:11.639
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, there's lots of different messages in there. That's

663
00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>just to the gallery, okay, Briant. So you mentioned an

664
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<v Speaker 1>album there, m h okay, what's the album called and

665
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<v Speaker 1>where can we get hold of it?

666
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:27.559
<v Speaker 3>So it's called Master of Disguise. Disguise is mastering them and.

667
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:31.239
<v Speaker 2>It is available on all your usual streaming services et cetera.

668
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:34.599
<v Speaker 2>Released that last summer and I also have a lot

669
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<v Speaker 2>of extra stuff on band camp as well, which is

670
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:39.440
<v Speaker 2>just my way of trying to actually make some money

671
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<v Speaker 2>as a musicians.

672
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:42.880
<v Speaker 3>Not that easy to do, but yeah, so you can

673
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<v Speaker 3>listen to it anywhere and hopefully doing some more.

674
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Gigs and stuff. I did a bit of a tour

675
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<v Speaker 2>of the UK last year, so I did some. I

676
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:51.599
<v Speaker 2>was living in London at the times, so did some.

677
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:54.840
<v Speaker 2>We extend there in Wales and in Scotland as well.

678
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<v Speaker 2>But I'm hoping to be doing memory gigs this year,

679
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<v Speaker 2>particularly Pride gigs as well. So MD is looking to

680
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<v Speaker 2>pick any performers. Hello, get in touch.

681
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<v Speaker 1>It's a pride you desperately want to do, like the

682
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<v Speaker 1>number one prize.

683
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:12.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean so I'm now living in Salford and

684
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<v Speaker 2>like I would absolutely love to be in any of

685
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:19.679
<v Speaker 2>the Prides in Softward, Manchester, like all the ten boroughs

686
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<v Speaker 2>I've been learning since I've been here, so I think

687
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<v Speaker 2>I've applied to all of them.

688
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<v Speaker 3>So it'd be great.

689
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, be great to do some stuff blossom here, and

690
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:30.159
<v Speaker 2>of course like Scotland, it would be nice to get

691
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:31.719
<v Speaker 2>back up there and do some pride up up that

692
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<v Speaker 2>way as well.

693
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, cool, And so you mentioned synthpop.

694
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<v Speaker 3>Is that very definitely a genre? Yeah for now, Like.

695
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:44.079
<v Speaker 2>That's where I am kind of finding my stuff. I'm

696
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:48.039
<v Speaker 2>going with, Like I work with a producer and we

697
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:50.280
<v Speaker 2>can form the album. We're like influenced a lot by

698
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<v Speaker 2>like a raiser, quite a lot of stuff in there,

699
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:57.480
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of years and years as well. I

700
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<v Speaker 2>also love sort of I mean, any of the kind

701
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:05.519
<v Speaker 2>of pop like you know Kylie or anything where I

702
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:08.039
<v Speaker 2>guess there's synths are kind of used in a way

703
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:11.719
<v Speaker 2>that isn't is kind of new and interesting, and that

704
00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:15.039
<v Speaker 2>like you're sort of almost like orchestrating stuff as well.

705
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:17.280
<v Speaker 2>There's my classical music in a background comes from that.

706
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:19.559
<v Speaker 2>I love kind of harmonies and building up and I've

707
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:21.840
<v Speaker 2>thrown the saxophone in there whenever I can as well.

708
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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, since there's a way to describe it, and

709
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<v Speaker 2>I just I'm working on a new track just now,

710
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:29.960
<v Speaker 2>which is going to be coming out in April, which

711
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:33.280
<v Speaker 2>is again very much in that kind of cool.

712
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<v Speaker 1>When you mentioned Erasia there, I had listened on the

713
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<v Speaker 1>Way and the Cow having a bit of a buppalong,

714
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:41.320
<v Speaker 1>and I was very much feeling the erasure kind of vibe.

715
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<v Speaker 1>I'm going, oh, and the one about your friends can't

716
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>come over because your mum's there, Yeah.

717
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:52.440
<v Speaker 2>So as that one is Master of Disguise, the title

718
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:54.480
<v Speaker 2>track of the album, So that was very much a

719
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:57.079
<v Speaker 2>kind of a note to kind of mental health and

720
00:38:57.159 --> 00:38:59.760
<v Speaker 2>like so when you make up these excuses when you

721
00:38:59.880 --> 00:39:02.920
<v Speaker 2>just not feeling that great and you're like, yeah, sorry,

722
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:05.199
<v Speaker 2>I can't come out because my mom was over, And

723
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:07.079
<v Speaker 2>at the same time you're telling you Mom, I can't

724
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:09.800
<v Speaker 2>talk to you because my friends are over, but in reality,

725
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:14.159
<v Speaker 2>you're just there by yourself, so wrapped up in a

726
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:18.159
<v Speaker 2>you're nodding along. It actually started out as like a

727
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:21.360
<v Speaker 2>little poem and in the studio we were like, don't

728
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:24.199
<v Speaker 2>actually this could maybe be turned into something, and it's

729
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:26.360
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, it's like stuff like that, and if you

730
00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:28.679
<v Speaker 2>just listen to it, we don't really think getting into

731
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:29.119
<v Speaker 2>the lyrics.

732
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:30.800
<v Speaker 3>It's hopefully just kind of, you know.

733
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:34.079
<v Speaker 2>A nice piece of music, pop music, but yeah.

734
00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:34.320
<v Speaker 3>We're in it.

735
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:36.679
<v Speaker 2>There's like some you know, deeper, deeper meetings and messages

736
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:37.280
<v Speaker 2>in there as well.

737
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:38.920
<v Speaker 3>But hopefully it's quite a hopeful.

738
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Message I think at the end of it as well,

739
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:42.840
<v Speaker 2>which I think I kind of like in music.

740
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:44.280
<v Speaker 3>I like there to be a bit of a bit

741
00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:46.719
<v Speaker 3>of a story arc in there. You know, it's gonna

742
00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:47.639
<v Speaker 3>be a bit of a point to it as well,

743
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:48.320
<v Speaker 3>a bit of narrative.

744
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:52.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not like kind of those pedamlet's just a few seconds,

745
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:52.280
<v Speaker 1>I do.

746
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:56.400
<v Speaker 2>I have written an essay on that, you know, not yet,

747
00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I have a thing about that she ripped off in pfmmm.

748
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:04.760
<v Speaker 3>I have gett into that quite often.

749
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I've heard I shan't can't get into it because it's

750
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:11.719
<v Speaker 1>about you, not about my theories about Calum being a

751
00:40:11.800 --> 00:40:12.760
<v Speaker 1>stealing you know what's it?

752
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:18.400
<v Speaker 3>Okay, go in all pop music is slightly stolen.

753
00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:21.800
<v Speaker 2>What's the same we we you know, we steal things

754
00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:23.960
<v Speaker 2>and use them in different ways and exactly you know,

755
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:25.320
<v Speaker 2>all that kind of stuff.

756
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:26.679
<v Speaker 3>Just whether you pay pay.

757
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:31.800
<v Speaker 2>World, yeah, whether you're paying anyone, yeah.

758
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:34.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm not getting paid for anything. So that's fine. So

759
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:38.840
<v Speaker 3>album's done, got another song coming up soon? M is it?

760
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Does that mean another album is coming imminently.

761
00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Or I am writing constantly so I'm yeah, hopefully it

762
00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:48.119
<v Speaker 2>will form an album for sure. I'm also like doing

763
00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:50.559
<v Speaker 2>a bit of like collaborating as well, and so whilst

764
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:54.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty new to Suffered Manchester, I'm hoping you can

765
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:57.079
<v Speaker 2>meet some more artists here do some stuff with people

766
00:40:57.119 --> 00:40:57.719
<v Speaker 2>here as well.

767
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:03.360
<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna I'm open to collaborations. Who's like top

768
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<v Speaker 3>of the list?

769
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:06.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's like other queer artists are always up

770
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:10.000
<v Speaker 2>there and I have done that in the past in

771
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:14.760
<v Speaker 2>real life in London mostly but also like remotely so

772
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:17.679
<v Speaker 2>some artists, like there's someone in Canada for some people

773
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:21.800
<v Speaker 2>in Germany. But yeah, so I'm really open to just

774
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:24.079
<v Speaker 2>meeting some new people and make some connections and seeing

775
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:25.880
<v Speaker 2>what kind of comes comes from that.

776
00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think I think there might be a collabs

777
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:29.920
<v Speaker 1>our friends of the show and there, because we've got

778
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:31.880
<v Speaker 1>some queer musicians that we might have to get you

779
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<v Speaker 1>into contact with. Please do bet us up on a

780
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:37.639
<v Speaker 1>line date. Well, there's a couple, I'll put you all

781
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:39.920
<v Speaker 1>in the room, see what happens. Okay, well in getting

782
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:40.519
<v Speaker 1>keeping the rights.

783
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:44.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, strangely, that's not the first time that's happened.

784
00:41:48.039 --> 00:41:50.719
<v Speaker 2>I thought that world collab was used for lots of things.

785
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:59.199
<v Speaker 1>Coolab We've had people like Smash Beyond Polisher, So yeah,

786
00:41:59.199 --> 00:41:59.679
<v Speaker 1>it's great.

787
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:01.719
<v Speaker 3>Both of we would love to see that happen.

788
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:06.840
<v Speaker 2>I did like a queer pop podcast during the pandemic,

789
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:08.840
<v Speaker 2>and so that was my way of kind of finding

790
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:11.239
<v Speaker 2>those other queer pop artists from.

791
00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:11.639
<v Speaker 3>Around the world.

792
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:13.719
<v Speaker 2>And they were both artists that I'd found and I

793
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:17.719
<v Speaker 2>don't think ever spoke to smash Me would definitely include

794
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:20.400
<v Speaker 2>their music by chatted to Palm. So we've never met

795
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:24.440
<v Speaker 2>in real life, but we've spoken over zoom.

796
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:27.000
<v Speaker 3>Maybe now is the time. Maybe now is the time. Yes.

797
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Cool.

798
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:30.719
<v Speaker 1>So if people want to get in contact with your

799
00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:32.320
<v Speaker 1>social media wise, what's what's.

800
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:33.719
<v Speaker 3>Your bits my bets?

801
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:40.719
<v Speaker 2>You can find my bits and bobs on all the

802
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:44.599
<v Speaker 2>socials ven Smith so v E double N like a

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<v Speaker 2>ven diagram and Smith with a Y.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, there's is there a lot of crossover in your

805
00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:56.320
<v Speaker 1>socials diagram crossover, There is a lot of crossover.

806
00:42:56.360 --> 00:42:59.880
<v Speaker 3>I did the math joke. Yeah, everyone loves maths.

807
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:03.320
<v Speaker 1>And well thank you for coming on.

808
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:08.639
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, thank you for having me and listening to the album.

809
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:15.199
<v Speaker 1>It's actually a bop, yes certified bop. Certain I nearly

810
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:16.960
<v Speaker 1>had an accident dancing in the car.

811
00:43:18.199 --> 00:43:20.199
<v Speaker 3>Well that's because I needed to peak quite desperately.

812
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:22.599
<v Speaker 2>But that's almost the end of the show. Just remember

813
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<v Speaker 2>to join us on our social media at their card TV.

814
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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for watching and we will see you all soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye bye. Let me just talk about