Speaker 1: You're watching Chewing the Cud with Mike Benin Rowe and
Speaker 1: Ven Smith. And it wasn't until I wiped it off
Speaker 1: and gave it a little sniff that even realized it was.
Speaker 2: Oh, hello and welcome to Cheering the Cud.
Speaker 1: This week, I'm joined by a musical maestro that is
Speaker 1: Ven Smith.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, let's going to the show. Thanks so much,
Speaker 2: lovely to be here.
Speaker 3: I like it when people lie to us. It is lovely,
Speaker 3: that's true. What have you got for us this week?
Speaker 2: So this week I'm talking about celebrity's brother who is
Speaker 2: stealing the limelight. And then we have a game to play.
Speaker 2: In our Game of the week, I don't know if
Speaker 2: you're supposed to jazz hands, but I added that in
Speaker 2: jazz hands are welcome.
Speaker 3: I can't do them.
Speaker 1: But that's before we get all up close and personal
Speaker 1: with Ven in spotlight on screen. Now you can see
Speaker 1: our social media just search for at the Cud TV and.
Speaker 2: As people who have popped up in our comments go
Speaker 2: along the bottom of the screen, it's time.
Speaker 3: For Mike in the buzz.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about nature documentaries? I love that
Speaker 1: nature documentaryburgh.
Speaker 2: Attinburough on a Sunday feels like a nice way to
Speaker 2: run off the week. Mild hangover, David. Sometimes it's just
Speaker 2: a way for me to fall asleep, but I also
Speaker 2: appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 1: Let's just story about some whales who have been caught
Speaker 1: at it, shall we say, for the first time, and
Speaker 1: just off the coast of Maui, so on a nice holiday,
Speaker 1: and they looked went, oh, look, wales at it. We've
Speaker 1: not had wales on camera having sex before. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: then they went, oh no, there's two boys male humpback
Speaker 1: whales literally humping back.
Speaker 3: Goodness. Did they give consent to this filming?
Speaker 1: I think so, because they didn't stop going no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no consent is given. But yeah, it's two whales. One
Speaker 1: almost decided to be an older gentleman whale and one's
Speaker 1: quite a young Okay, generational intergenerational whaling exactly. And the
Speaker 1: twink was topping. That was what came out of it all.
Speaker 3: Okay, hang me with quite a lot faxy. I don't
Speaker 3: know what to pick up on. Okay, well, okay, well yeah, lovely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, wow, Okay, captured captured for the world. That's
Speaker 1: actually the nicest picture I could find of it. There
Speaker 1: were so quite intimate ones and they're going I don't
Speaker 1: think we need to see penetration.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, well done. You specific website, very.
Speaker 1: Specific website, Yes, humpback dot com.
Speaker 3: Not what you're thinking of looking for.
Speaker 2: Whales only fins only nice.
Speaker 3: You don't know what they did with the blowhole.
Speaker 1: Wait, so this is the first ever whial intercourse, intercourse
Speaker 1: that's been captured on thing.
Speaker 3: It's gay and it happened to be gay. This is
Speaker 3: a moment.
Speaker 2: It is a moment.
Speaker 1: Apparently some right wing people are saying that they were
Speaker 1: just playing because they're not homosexual, because they're whales. Just
Speaker 1: good friends, just good friends, yeah, lifelong bachelors. I believe
Speaker 1: the phrases.
Speaker 3: Their partners in work. I guess.
Speaker 2: What do wales do for it?
Speaker 3: I don't want to ask that question.
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, wow, okay, but it just made me smile.
Speaker 1: The fact that you know whales are at it, which
Speaker 1: we know that they are, but the fact that the first.
Speaker 3: Ones on film were actually gay, gosh, and well, you know,
Speaker 3: it seems like a nice spot for them to have
Speaker 3: been doing it as well. Vacation honeymoon perhaps.
Speaker 1: Possibly maybe who's got the money though, Well, interesting.
Speaker 2: Well, you know that intergenerational thing there as well, that
Speaker 2: is also quite interesting. And you know, flipping expectations. Who
Speaker 2: might be topic exactly?
Speaker 1: Okay, I googled twink top. Great, that came up. Progressive
Speaker 1: wheels exactly, that's what we like to see. Yeah, how
Speaker 1: do you feel about zombie apocalypses?
Speaker 3: Love, that's brilliant.
Speaker 1: We've got some special guests, so they want to eat brides.
Speaker 3: Bring out.
Speaker 2: Are you prepared for a zombie apocalypse? Well, you know,
Speaker 2: as much as I'll ever be. The world seems a
Speaker 2: bit of apocalyptic sometimes anyway, you know, it's fine.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: When Putin decided that he wanted a bit of the Ukraine,
Speaker 1: I googled what I should do to protect myself from
Speaker 1: a nuclear bomb, and.
Speaker 2: There were two things that came up.
Speaker 1: One was trying to find yourself somewhere away from windows,
Speaker 1: like the middle of the house, where possible, and that
Speaker 1: sort of thing.
Speaker 3: Another one basically said you were so which did you
Speaker 3: go with?
Speaker 1: I started to clean out the bottom of mustairs, so
Speaker 1: I got under the stays cupboard and I went, this
Speaker 1: is a lot of work close the though it's it's
Speaker 1: not bother where's the gin.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: In case of zombie apocalypse, some research has been done
Speaker 1: about where the blessed place to be is? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: where do you think the best place to be in
Speaker 1: the UK is?
Speaker 2: If there's in the UK? Oh wow, Okay, I'm going
Speaker 2: to say some sort of Ireland island maybe. Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: good news is that the entire UK is an island.
Speaker 3: You are spot on the shock. I am learning a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Actually Scotland all right, they said the best place to
Speaker 1: be I might know something about that. It's actually the
Speaker 1: Highlands of Scotland basically because it's it's not very densely populated, right,
Speaker 1: and there's lots of things to eat that's in animals
Speaker 1: and fruit, not Scott's that's what they might be eating
Speaker 1: you already zombie delicious delicious brains. But they said steer
Speaker 1: away from cities, right and they've actually said Lewisham, Tower
Speaker 1: Hamlets and Newham are the worst places to be, okay,
Speaker 1: really specific, very specific right on what it does. They've
Speaker 1: basically graded on population density, access to raw materials, fresh
Speaker 1: water and that sort of thing. Okay, And basically if
Speaker 1: you're in the central London, yes, screwed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I mean sometimes does feel like a zombie
Speaker 2: apocalypse in London anyway, I lived for ten years Tube
Speaker 2: some mornings are people alive.
Speaker 3: What's going on? Is that weird?
Speaker 1: It's still warm but quite cold at the same time,
Speaker 1: and they get that smell.
Speaker 3: It's very particular London.
Speaker 2: Someone has actually bad so maybe it's already happening. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, it's just going on. Well no, I mean,
Speaker 2: have you ever been to the Highlands.
Speaker 3: I have been to the Highlands, so you know, beautiful
Speaker 3: place directly apocalypse as well. You know, you could find
Speaker 3: a little a little shack somewhere up the mountain on
Speaker 3: the loch, maybe a handsome Scottish you know, your back
Speaker 3: to porn thing again. Maybe you'll find a whale or No.
Speaker 1: I've just realized Ness is a zombie. That's not going
Speaker 1: to be good. She'll never never see NeSSI attack you
Speaker 1: because you can never spot No.
Speaker 3: But did you hear that they caught NeSSI having sex recently?
Speaker 1: Googles surprisingly, and you'd be surprised what shows up on
Speaker 1: my googlest Great, well.
Speaker 2: I mean lovely, there's well, if Scottland becomes independent, I
Speaker 2: guess you know.
Speaker 3: Because zombies taking it could be a whole other thing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, lovely, great, perfect And if you want to
Speaker 1: see zombie NeSSI having sex with another zombie NeSSI, why
Speaker 1: don't share it with us at the kod TV on
Speaker 1: social media? And that brings us nicely to our story
Speaker 1: of the week, nicely to stretch there.
Speaker 3: Smoothly.
Speaker 1: Have you ever sold anything online?
Speaker 3: Well, yes, I have.
Speaker 2: I sell music because I am sim so I have
Speaker 2: sold Are you talking like physical things can talk about?
Speaker 2: I've sold some CDs online. I don't think i've sawd
Speaker 2: the anything else. I never really got into the hall.
Speaker 2: Can it be that a lot of world stuff?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What's this?
Speaker 1: Young lady called Chang Wing Lee from Singapore decided she
Speaker 1: was a bit strapped for cash.
Speaker 3: Thought, you know, I'm an influencer.
Speaker 1: I'm going to sell something that people can get exclusively
Speaker 1: from me.
Speaker 2: And so I was selling two hundred and thirty seven pounds.
Speaker 3: Jars of farts.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, okay, she's sold out very quickly.
Speaker 2: Really yes.
Speaker 1: People were saying that, you know, I just bought it
Speaker 1: for the curiosity to wonder what they smell like and
Speaker 1: the answer is a fart. But yeah, she was telling
Speaker 1: people to get them quick because they only have a shelf.
Speaker 3: Life for thirty days.
Speaker 2: Right, it's been tried and tested, apparently so used by
Speaker 2: day to fart in the jar industry is thirty days.
Speaker 3: Very it seems quite long. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 3: it feels like one of the things.
Speaker 2: I don't know, a couple of one of those things
Speaker 2: like as a kid, it's like you don't smell my fart,
Speaker 2: or like your fired under the DV.
Speaker 3: You know, cheve someone's head under there. But I feel like.
Speaker 2: You still hear.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But yeah.
Speaker 1: She's also said you can customize them art for an
Speaker 1: extra three hundred and ninety five pounds.
Speaker 2: Wait, sorry, I was customized the parts. I was thinking
Speaker 2: customizing the jar. She's not any glue. What would you
Speaker 2: like them to smell of?
Speaker 3: Wow? Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And she said for an extra seven hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty nine pounds you could have an additional surprise and a.
Speaker 3: Photo of it happening.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, that Pine is spending like just over a
Speaker 1: grandle the pictures one's asshole.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what is the surprise?
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm just saying surprise.
Speaker 3: It was a curry. There are some choices.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she has said she was restocking soon. Okay,
Speaker 1: but perhaps she must be some beans to see what happens. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, entrepreneur, Yeah, I think it's just a lot
Speaker 1: of dirty old mentor or want to smell something that's
Speaker 1: been round in other regions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you know, I mean that is that's just
Speaker 3: an industry, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Ostream Someone's offered me money to buy my old underwear
Speaker 1: and did you I sent them my old underwear?
Speaker 3: Did you get paid? Now? You were jeped? I was jeeped.
Speaker 1: So yeah sorry, Oh wait, pe Daddy forty two if
Speaker 1: you're still watching, you only twenty quid.
Speaker 3: They wore knock off Calvin's. Anyway, I don't care.
Speaker 2: But that's all for the bus this week.
Speaker 3: Well thanks for that.
Speaker 2: Information overloads from Wales to farts.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Okay, all evolves the bottom. But coming up next we
Speaker 1: have a short break and then bring us the celebrity news.
Speaker 1: You're watching you in the cud with then and Mike.
Speaker 1: Now let's get ready for the show biz with then.
Speaker 3: All right, So first one up, Miley Cyrus fan. Are
Speaker 3: you a fan?
Speaker 1: I like the fact she she sang a song about
Speaker 1: being a wrecking ball? Yes, because it was quite easy
Speaker 1: to change that to a wrecking hole.
Speaker 3: Great. Yeah, she's done some other songs since then.
Speaker 2: But yeah, all right, I'm not down with a kid.
Speaker 2: I mean I'm not.
Speaker 1: She did that one about the song about the thing
Speaker 1: and the buying herself flowers.
Speaker 2: That was like last year's kind of song that was everywhere.
Speaker 2: But she has just released a new one which is
Speaker 2: called Doctor in brackets work it Out.
Speaker 3: Doctor.
Speaker 2: She talked about pro lapse.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it's about. It's an interesting title.
Speaker 2: Also, song wise, this isn't actually the story, but I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna talk about the song. I'd say it's quite
Speaker 2: hard to beat Wrecking Ball and Flour, both legitimate pop hits.
Speaker 2: I will say, I'm not sure how successful this one is.
Speaker 2: Have you heard it? Well, there's a new video and
Speaker 2: she's looking great in the video, dancing around quite a
Speaker 2: sort of shimmy shiny shaky like that.
Speaker 3: Those are the most That's what I supposed to do.
Speaker 3: But perhaps this is all a distraction from some family
Speaker 3: drama that's going on behind the scenes. That's right, so
Speaker 3: I know what is going on. Well, Mum Tish Cyrus
Speaker 3: Stole Dominic Purcell, who was Miley's sister Noah's partner.
Speaker 2: So mom has stolen daughter's partner. Here is here's Mum
Speaker 2: and daughter Noah.
Speaker 3: She already doesn't look please.
Speaker 1: No, she does not looks marvelous, but doesn't look pleased.
Speaker 1: I don't know when this was taken. During the ceiling
Speaker 1: there's a little leopard skin song.
Speaker 3: She's well, so yeah, so now Mom is with with
Speaker 3: this this partner. So it seems a bit messy, and
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how. I mean, that's just Miley.
Speaker 2: She's just dancing and maybe not caring so much about
Speaker 2: the family drama. She's doing very well, i'd say, but
Speaker 2: you know, perhaps not avoiding the discussion. Maybe it's awkward
Speaker 2: around the dinner table in the Stire's home.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: So apparently, like Mum has opened up about relationship and
Speaker 2: has followed on Instagram saying that he slid into the
Speaker 2: d ms apparently. I mean, how do you feel about
Speaker 2: sort of stealing boyfriends in general?
Speaker 1: I mean people seeing my boyfriends obviously other people, because
Speaker 1: that's a very different thing.
Speaker 2: Let's go with you stealing people's boyfriends.
Speaker 1: First, I tend to return them. I don't steal them.
Speaker 1: I borrow them.
Speaker 2: And I have them.
Speaker 3: It's like a library.
Speaker 1: Oh nice, I take my card, I swipe it and
Speaker 1: take them out to take Rember live days later, take
Speaker 1: about five days later, a massive fine. It's like I think,
Speaker 1: if the relationship is an open relationship and everyone's happy
Speaker 1: about that, then that's perfectly fine.
Speaker 3: If it's a monogamous relationship, then probably not someone.
Speaker 2: How'd you feel about stealing partners from family members?
Speaker 3: Have you done that?
Speaker 1: Luckily, everybody in my family is either with a woman
Speaker 1: or with a Minger, So I'm okay, are they watching?
Speaker 3: Well, that means okay, to be fine, So this is
Speaker 3: is not not going to happen.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not going to be stealing anybody. Plus, plus
Speaker 1: we're all of a certain age. Now that yeah, well
Speaker 1: should we see if he's a Minger?
Speaker 2: In your.
Speaker 3: Opinion, how are you feeling? He looks comfortable? What does
Speaker 3: that mean? That's it on? It looks comfortable.
Speaker 2: So from zero too would sit on it, would sit
Speaker 2: on it?
Speaker 1: Well, no, no, from zero to would ride It is about.
Speaker 3: In the middle.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, find good getting to know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she seems to know slightly.
Speaker 2: Concerned, that was what it says.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'd say.
Speaker 1: He's significantly older than my sister though, yeah, in his fifties.
Speaker 2: To that, well, hey, if the whales can do it,
Speaker 2: the ciruses can do it too.
Speaker 3: So moving on to the next story. Samahayak Okay. Who's she?
Speaker 2: She is beautiful actress, appeared in many things including American
Speaker 2: Horror Story amongst amongst other TV programs films. She's very like,
Speaker 2: kind of honest and open on her social media as well.
Speaker 1: Was she the one that doesn't use any filters when
Speaker 1: she's doing it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly stuff and so actually, so this story is
Speaker 2: kind of related to that kind of thing. That she's
Speaker 2: sharing a hack for her hair, which has gone a
Speaker 2: bit viral and people were like, oh my goodness, So
Speaker 2: it's so real.
Speaker 1: Is she doing a share? She's shaving up on my wigs?
Speaker 3: Yes, and no's not.
Speaker 1: That's what I started doing, but I didn't have the
Speaker 1: money for a week some half share.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think both of us are really
Speaker 2: interested in the story about how we can maintain our hair.
Speaker 2: Beard her, Yeah, this could actually, this trick could work
Speaker 2: for that as well. So basically it is using the
Speaker 2: scare to cover up the grades. And so she was
Speaker 2: doing this instead of I don't know, dying or putting
Speaker 2: on a wig.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the early two thousands hair messcour I
Speaker 1: do not remember that, So Christina I can learned, just
Speaker 1: like the little colorful things and there. Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I used to be literally brush and he used to
Speaker 1: just rub it in.
Speaker 3: Did you use that?
Speaker 1: Well, that's what happened. Don't use it kids. This is
Speaker 1: it happened to me too.
Speaker 3: That blocked out.
Speaker 2: This is a you know, hair trauma.
Speaker 1: I don't think the scar would work on beards though,
Speaker 1: if you go with the ginger, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, you can dye your beard. Have you
Speaker 3: ever considered that?
Speaker 1: I have a few gray they're not even the white
Speaker 1: hairs that appear in my beard.
Speaker 3: I can't see them. You've covered them with I do.
Speaker 2: I've got a few few grays going in there as well, noddings.
Speaker 3: You can see them. So maybe I should a couple of.
Speaker 2: Hours looking as well on one.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, you didn't provide me any, misscar when
Speaker 1: I arrived to the studio, so we don't do that.
Speaker 3: You know, it's your fault.
Speaker 2: Really, Moving on, So mcaulay culkin home alone has many brothers,
Speaker 2: the story. Are you ready for this? It's quite a
Speaker 2: big story. It might shock your world. One of his
Speaker 2: brothers is hot. Okay, that as far as I can gather,
Speaker 2: is the story. So not mad about it.
Speaker 3: One of the younger brother there's like seven brothers in.
Speaker 1: The ok so, he didn't have a TV when he's
Speaker 1: grown up.
Speaker 2: So this younger brother is Rory thirty four and has
Speaker 2: been sorry.
Speaker 3: His younger brothers. Yeah, just it feels wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does feel wrong. So when when mccula cochin
Speaker 2: was doing all the home alones and this is the
Speaker 2: brother here? Okay, long hair, family resemblance, long hair. I
Speaker 2: trying to get it. Yeah, lots of family resemblance. I
Speaker 2: feel like maybe just every few years is just like
Speaker 2: a new brother that gets the hot hot, you know,
Speaker 2: hot story. So I guess it's Rory's turn. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: When I was a kid I was people often thought
Speaker 2: I looked like McCauley in his Home Alone era.
Speaker 3: Really obviously things have changed.
Speaker 1: Can you do an impression of mccallay Colin and Home Alone?
Speaker 1: So no is the answer. What's my addition tape to
Speaker 1: be the next hot mcaulay culkin brother.
Speaker 3: But it's not worth.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, how do you feel? I mean
Speaker 2: from zero to what was your what's going on here?
Speaker 1: I do that in the morning.
Speaker 2: I'm like, do they still hear?
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Are they still here? Are they still here?
Speaker 3: Is this like a bra Is this in a film?
Speaker 3: Is this just? I don't know?
Speaker 1: Because he had from what has recently been in an
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime show?
Speaker 3: Yes, I.
Speaker 2: All I know about this is a bowl of strawberries.
Speaker 2: I heard any more about this? So I like a strawberry.
Speaker 3: Well, you might like them even more or less. I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: So apparently in this show, whatever the show is, there's
Speaker 2: a scene where he presses himself naked against a bowl of.
Speaker 3: Strawberries and you can sort of see everything.
Speaker 1: Now it is you can see everything, or you can
Speaker 1: see outline of everything. It's like the strawberry version of
Speaker 1: Great Sweatpants.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is the strawberry version of Grace. Okay, I
Speaker 3: don't know. Actually I've not I've not watched it yet.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's like, yeah, it's like the break. I might
Speaker 1: so you come back slightly out of breath and tie
Speaker 1: after the break. We know why exactly. Here's the family.
Speaker 3: I means I guess that's that's McCaulay Oviously, that's my
Speaker 3: guess that's worry. Yeah, parents, I think they're all a
Speaker 3: bit strange though, so from the mom and.
Speaker 1: Died he said strange for a second, like, yes, very strange.
Speaker 1: But I think the bit of a family break down,
Speaker 1: well divorced his parents didn't, yes, because.
Speaker 2: I need to sort of suit maybe like sued them
Speaker 2: as well. It's quite a big big thing during he
Speaker 2: was only in his teenage years anyway.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm just trying to work out how hotly brother
Speaker 1: was because there he doesn't look like a kid that's
Speaker 1: going to grow up hot like the Beckhams when they
Speaker 1: all had children. They all look like they're going to
Speaker 1: grow up decent looking kids. That's a very nineties picture.
Speaker 1: It's a very nice, very nice picture. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: get to see do it look like a colcn yet?
Speaker 3: But we look slightly related? That's so. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so the air is saying shouting swarm in my ear.
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, the swarm is the show the Strawberries.
Speaker 3: I don't know what. I don't know what starm is about.
Speaker 3: I know the ones.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like all these things there it's like
Speaker 2: before I was going to call it bath water.
Speaker 3: That's how much.
Speaker 1: Burn because you could have a crossover where they have
Speaker 1: strawberries in the bath.
Speaker 3: Wow, strawberries and bath strawberries and cream.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh no, well you know so some of these
Speaker 2: things you know, you know the scenes before you know
Speaker 2: what actual things about.
Speaker 3: Actually watched Albourne. I have watched Slburn. Yes, I watched it.
Speaker 2: I watched it alone after seeing all these people being
Speaker 2: like all.
Speaker 3: I watched with my family at Christmas. So yeah, I
Speaker 3: told my parents to watch it. Okay they haven't yet.
Speaker 1: Well it is it on the Amazon. Yes, tell them
Speaker 1: to watch Swarm as well. Brothers, Peter, no watch this then,
Speaker 1: Well there you go.
Speaker 3: I think that is all the shubbers that I can
Speaker 3: bring you from now.
Speaker 1: Thank you for that as we all go off and
Speaker 1: watch Swarm and back tissues from somewhere and stick around
Speaker 1: because coming up next we have our game of the week.
Speaker 1: You're watching you in the cud and it's that time
Speaker 1: when we all have to reach into our wallets and
Speaker 1: whip it out for our annual I mean annual renewal. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's time to get your l G B t Q
Speaker 1: I A plus license renewed. So we're going to do
Speaker 1: some cramming with you as we play gay or nay,
Speaker 1: and then this one's off for you to start us off.
Speaker 3: If you go, thank you, try not to flash you
Speaker 3: as I leave.
Speaker 2: Oh day of the week.
Speaker 1: So this week we've got some gay trivia's historical fact
Speaker 1: and factoids. Okay, I'm going to ask you one then
Speaker 1: and then you're going to do me. Okay as in questions,
Speaker 1: Oh okay, cool, So are.
Speaker 3: You ready as I'll ever be good?
Speaker 1: Okay, there's a lighthearted quiz in sixteen forty eight, which
Speaker 1: was just a recently only eighteen years before Cronenberg was invented.
Speaker 3: The obea drinker was just boring.
Speaker 1: In New France, a military drama received what sentence for
Speaker 1: being homosexual?
Speaker 3: What sentence for being homosexual?
Speaker 2: Some sort of terrible punishment that they no longer existed
Speaker 2: on this earth.
Speaker 3: They didn't have to listen to the new Malisarasol.
Speaker 1: Basically because she wasn't around share though, fourth album sixteen
Speaker 1: eighty four whatever, it was sixty fourteen, So he was
Speaker 1: given a choice of punishments in itself.
Speaker 3: That's a nice start.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he could accept a new position first as executioner
Speaker 1: for the colony, right, what'll be put to death?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: I think that's flawed because if you need a new executioner,
Speaker 1: you're going to choose be put to death, aren't you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I choose to be put to death. You've not got
Speaker 1: an executioner, I've or coat shop.
Speaker 2: Then, yeah, it's clever. You would have done well during
Speaker 2: that period of time.
Speaker 1: I would not have done well during that period of time.
Speaker 3: Just because there was no grinder. There was.
Speaker 2: It was just an analogue or when you're actually grinding,
Speaker 2: and then you could, you know, have a wink across
Speaker 2: the fire pit?
Speaker 1: What across the fire pit?
Speaker 2: If the waiting salt, but a wink?
Speaker 3: Oh? Okay? At this head, do you have a question
Speaker 3: for me? So?
Speaker 2: In nineteen fifty seven, the report of the Departmental Committee
Speaker 2: on Homosexual Offenses and Prostitution was released for all to
Speaker 2: read by What name was this report better known?
Speaker 1: So it's a report about gay men and prostitutes?
Speaker 2: When was it from two thousand or something?
Speaker 3: Was it grinderw twenty one? Nineteen fifty seven?
Speaker 1: Nineteen fifty seven, you were what in your third was
Speaker 1: the second time I was in my thirty here. Just
Speaker 1: remember that I'm only five years older than you.
Speaker 3: Drag you down with me.
Speaker 1: It's fine, I would say the New York Times.
Speaker 2: No, okay, the name of this report not the New
Speaker 2: York Times. But the name is the wolf Wolf Report.
Speaker 2: Is that bringing any bells?
Speaker 1: Did I say the Wolfenden Report, like off wolf the Wolf? Yes,
Speaker 1: the wolfing Reports Report at fit Wolf.
Speaker 3: So this was a.
Speaker 2: Document prepared by somebody called Wolfingdon. He's a lord, Lord
Speaker 2: of the Wolf. I don't know if it's a placer.
Speaker 2: That's his name, Lord Wolfingdon. It's rather common occurrence for
Speaker 2: reports of long wintered titles to referred to by shorter
Speaker 2: catch your name. And that's the case, which is, you know,
Speaker 2: strange that you've not remembered this.
Speaker 1: Catch title exactly, But I'm not going to forget the
Speaker 1: thing you Bobby report ever again exactly Wolf just wolf.
Speaker 2: Not related to the quiz. I just wanted to whiff
Speaker 2: at you, right, okay? Are you ready for me to
Speaker 2: do you?
Speaker 3: I am prepped and ready. That's that's good.
Speaker 1: It's very rare that I say that. By the way,
Speaker 1: feel privileged once a year, if that right? Which very famous.
Speaker 1: CNN reporter came out in twenty twelve CNN Zach standing
Speaker 1: for something you know, interesting cartoon Network News who came
Speaker 1: out a reporter, mister news. He was known as the
Speaker 1: Silver Fox of News, which is interesting because he wasn't
Speaker 1: on Fox News.
Speaker 3: The other one that wasn't on Fox News.
Speaker 1: That's the one. Yeah, Gillian Cooper. No, not Jillian Cooper.
Speaker 1: Anderson Cooper. Yeah, okay, Jillian Cooper's one.
Speaker 3: Very different. He's Jillian Cooper.
Speaker 1: He should do the Wine Show Monday, just before songs
Speaker 1: are praise before he did on CNN.
Speaker 3: I'm clever, I'm professional.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He was the anchor of CNN's Anderson Cooper three sixty show.
Speaker 1: Risingly modest, but yeah. He gave permission for someone else
Speaker 1: to publish an email regarding his sexual orientation, which is
Speaker 1: nice to get a bit consent.
Speaker 3: He gave.
Speaker 2: It sounds like that email was already going to go
Speaker 2: out and he then kind of just.
Speaker 3: Had to give, yeah, all right, then do that then. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's happened.
Speaker 1: With some pictures of mine, but different reasons. Anyway, I'm
Speaker 1: ready if you want to do me.
Speaker 3: Now, I am ready to do you.
Speaker 2: Good members, So deep breath, breath, Relax, relax. This is
Speaker 2: all about the penal code, something I'm sure familiar with
Speaker 2: under its new penal code of seventeen ninety one. Insert
Speaker 2: age related joke. Which European country was the first to
Speaker 2: criminalize homosexuality under its penal code?
Speaker 3: Penal code? Penal code? Which we're looking for a country? Here? Country?
Speaker 3: The name of a country.
Speaker 1: Penal code you know, tree code, country, you know, penal.
Speaker 2: Penal country, penal country code.
Speaker 3: Oh, homosexuality Netherlands. Why did you choose that country?
Speaker 1: Because I can, and because I thought that they're very
Speaker 1: They're very pro gay, very pro pot, very pro everything.
Speaker 3: So wow, you're wrong. Well I'm not going to take it.
Speaker 2: Russia. Surprisingly, Yes, Russia is near the Netherlands.
Speaker 3: It is France.
Speaker 2: So this was France's first national pinal code, adopted during
Speaker 2: the French Revolution. It had a sponsor, apparently, Louis Michelle
Speaker 2: Pelletier said they only punished true crimes, not the artificial
Speaker 2: offense is condemned, condemned by superstition. I'm quite enjoying, Louis
Speaker 2: Michelle Pelletier. I feel like at least a strong ally,
Speaker 2: if not enjoying the pinal code.
Speaker 1: Yes, one of of us.
Speaker 3: So there you go.
Speaker 1: Well done, France, Well done, France's that's shocking, clebian.
Speaker 3: What is your view on penal reform?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I don't discriminate if it's uno really
Speaker 1: whatever makes you feel comfortable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, open views there, Yeah, it.
Speaker 1: All tastes the same.
Speaker 3: So is this a cooking show as well? Is exactly?
Speaker 1: I want to stage a guy whose nickname was phil Okay,
Speaker 1: his name was Mark, but we'll call him phil as
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia because he had lots.
Speaker 2: Of anyway.
Speaker 3: In that film.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's the one I know him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So watch was the very first country to introduce same
Speaker 1: sex marriage.
Speaker 2: Oh you're like, yeah, I actually know this. Can you like,
Speaker 2: can you give me some clues? Your name like areas
Speaker 2: of the world.
Speaker 1: It has borders and people which live within it.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: It also had a penal code along the front and
Speaker 1: is part of Europe. Okay, is it the Netherlands? And
Speaker 1: maybe this is where you guessed your guest. Now this
Speaker 1: is the weird thing, right it was actually Russia? Oh
Speaker 1: it was Netherlands, of course it was Netherlands. Well done,
Speaker 1: you got it right. Yeah, that's the first time that
Speaker 1: we've got right, which means currently you are outgaining me.
Speaker 3: Ah well, it's just quite hard to do. That's very
Speaker 3: hard to do because the right sneeze glitter.
Speaker 1: But stick around because next we're going to get all
Speaker 1: up close and personal with Vent and Spotlight. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to you in the CUD. Now, after we've tested each
Speaker 1: other's knowledge, it's time we're going to get all up
Speaker 1: in his business as we talked to Vent in Spotlight.
Speaker 1: So welcome, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Have you enjoyed yourself so far? I have enjoyed myself.
Speaker 3: I've learned a lot. I've left. I've enjoyed. Okay, do
Speaker 3: you like it when people like to me? I do?
Speaker 3: I do?
Speaker 1: It doesn't it's not that important, you know.
Speaker 3: It happens to everybody.
Speaker 2: I take it as a compliment.
Speaker 1: It's all great lives. So you are a musician, that's right.
Speaker 3: I am a singer, songwriter and saxophonist.
Speaker 1: I do love the word saxophone. Saxhone's a good instrument.
Speaker 1: You know, it's always it's always popular. I did learn
Speaker 1: to play it, well, I tried to learn to play it.
Speaker 1: That The exact thing I got back was you're good.
Speaker 1: You give me a good try.
Speaker 3: For a percussionist, Well, you know, I mean for a percussionists.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so you don't just pick up the saxophone randomly.
Speaker 3: You went to university with it on.
Speaker 2: Yes, So I have been doing music since I was
Speaker 2: a wee lad. I first, I think I started on
Speaker 2: the piano and didn't get very far of that because
Speaker 2: my teacher was quite scary and told me I should
Speaker 2: give up at like the age of seven. But thankfully
Speaker 2: I did not give up, and yeah, I kept on going.
Speaker 2: So I always really enjoyed, like just making things up.
Speaker 2: I think was my my thing about music. And then yeah,
Speaker 2: went to UNI, studied classical music and did saxophone and composition,
Speaker 2: and then I've kind of continued on in various different ways.
Speaker 2: But now i'd say my stuff is very much in
Speaker 2: the pop world and kind of queer pop.
Speaker 3: I'd say that's where we're okay, Well, what makes your
Speaker 3: pop queer? Me?
Speaker 2: Well, I guess I am writing about, you know, stuff
Speaker 2: from my perspective as a gay man and about what
Speaker 2: I kind of.
Speaker 3: See in my experience of the world.
Speaker 2: And but also I think pop music is kind of
Speaker 2: inherently queer in another and actually from a long time
Speaker 2: I probably didn't like release stuff that was like really
Speaker 2: the kind of poppy stuff that I wanted to release,
Speaker 2: possibly because I felt like I had to be a
Speaker 2: bit more serious and be like a singer songwriter and
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, which I do love sometimes,
Speaker 2: but also like I could have fully embraced the synths
Speaker 2: and the dancing and like the kind.
Speaker 3: Of ridiculous of ridiculousness of pop music. But also it's
Speaker 3: a great way to get across some important messages hidden
Speaker 3: inside some some pop music.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, So do you do you slip a lot
Speaker 1: of like hidden messages in or.
Speaker 3: Slip a lot of things in? Yeah? I yeah, well
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: I guess some hidden I do. I do enjoy metaphor,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean. And so an album I released
Speaker 2: last year which is like my debut album as this
Speaker 2: project of Vent Smith, and some of it is about
Speaker 2: like coming out and experiencing kind of growing up in
Speaker 2: my teenage years. Some of it's around more personal stuff
Speaker 2: around and be like mental health and relationships. Some of
Speaker 2: it's just about really rubbish boyfriends and other things in
Speaker 2: the world that I'm going to see.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's lots of different messages in there. That's
Speaker 1: just to the gallery, okay, Briant. So you mentioned an
Speaker 1: album there, m h okay, what's the album called and
Speaker 1: where can we get hold of it?
Speaker 3: So it's called Master of Disguise. Disguise is mastering them and.
Speaker 2: It is available on all your usual streaming services et cetera.
Speaker 2: Released that last summer and I also have a lot
Speaker 2: of extra stuff on band camp as well, which is
Speaker 2: just my way of trying to actually make some money
Speaker 2: as a musicians.
Speaker 3: Not that easy to do, but yeah, so you can
Speaker 3: listen to it anywhere and hopefully doing some more.
Speaker 2: Gigs and stuff. I did a bit of a tour
Speaker 2: of the UK last year, so I did some. I
Speaker 2: was living in London at the times, so did some.
Speaker 2: We extend there in Wales and in Scotland as well.
Speaker 2: But I'm hoping to be doing memory gigs this year,
Speaker 2: particularly Pride gigs as well. So MD is looking to
Speaker 2: pick any performers. Hello, get in touch.
Speaker 1: It's a pride you desperately want to do, like the
Speaker 1: number one prize.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean so I'm now living in Salford and
Speaker 2: like I would absolutely love to be in any of
Speaker 2: the Prides in Softward, Manchester, like all the ten boroughs
Speaker 2: I've been learning since I've been here, so I think
Speaker 2: I've applied to all of them.
Speaker 3: So it'd be great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, be great to do some stuff blossom here, and
Speaker 2: of course like Scotland, it would be nice to get
Speaker 2: back up there and do some pride up up that
Speaker 2: way as well.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, And so you mentioned synthpop.
Speaker 3: Is that very definitely a genre? Yeah for now, Like.
Speaker 2: That's where I am kind of finding my stuff. I'm
Speaker 2: going with, Like I work with a producer and we
Speaker 2: can form the album. We're like influenced a lot by
Speaker 2: like a raiser, quite a lot of stuff in there,
Speaker 2: a little bit of years and years as well. I
Speaker 2: also love sort of I mean, any of the kind
Speaker 2: of pop like you know Kylie or anything where I
Speaker 2: guess there's synths are kind of used in a way
Speaker 2: that isn't is kind of new and interesting, and that
Speaker 2: like you're sort of almost like orchestrating stuff as well.
Speaker 2: There's my classical music in a background comes from that.
Speaker 2: I love kind of harmonies and building up and I've
Speaker 2: thrown the saxophone in there whenever I can as well.
Speaker 2: So yeah, since there's a way to describe it, and
Speaker 2: I just I'm working on a new track just now,
Speaker 2: which is going to be coming out in April, which
Speaker 2: is again very much in that kind of cool.
Speaker 1: When you mentioned Erasia there, I had listened on the
Speaker 1: Way and the Cow having a bit of a buppalong,
Speaker 1: and I was very much feeling the erasure kind of vibe.
Speaker 1: I'm going, oh, and the one about your friends can't
Speaker 1: come over because your mum's there, Yeah.
Speaker 2: So as that one is Master of Disguise, the title
Speaker 2: track of the album, So that was very much a
Speaker 2: kind of a note to kind of mental health and
Speaker 2: like so when you make up these excuses when you
Speaker 2: just not feeling that great and you're like, yeah, sorry,
Speaker 2: I can't come out because my mom was over, And
Speaker 2: at the same time you're telling you Mom, I can't
Speaker 2: talk to you because my friends are over, but in reality,
Speaker 2: you're just there by yourself, so wrapped up in a
Speaker 2: you're nodding along. It actually started out as like a
Speaker 2: little poem and in the studio we were like, don't
Speaker 2: actually this could maybe be turned into something, and it's
Speaker 2: so yeah, it's like stuff like that, and if you
Speaker 2: just listen to it, we don't really think getting into
Speaker 2: the lyrics.
Speaker 3: It's hopefully just kind of, you know.
Speaker 2: A nice piece of music, pop music, but yeah.
Speaker 3: We're in it.
Speaker 2: There's like some you know, deeper, deeper meetings and messages
Speaker 2: in there as well.
Speaker 3: But hopefully it's quite a hopeful.
Speaker 2: Message I think at the end of it as well,
Speaker 2: which I think I kind of like in music.
Speaker 3: I like there to be a bit of a bit
Speaker 3: of a story arc in there. You know, it's gonna
Speaker 3: be a bit of a point to it as well,
Speaker 3: a bit of narrative.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not like kind of those pedamlet's just a few seconds,
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: I have written an essay on that, you know, not yet,
Speaker 2: I have a thing about that she ripped off in pfmmm.
Speaker 3: I have gett into that quite often.
Speaker 1: I've heard I shan't can't get into it because it's
Speaker 1: about you, not about my theories about Calum being a
Speaker 1: stealing you know what's it?
Speaker 3: Okay, go in all pop music is slightly stolen.
Speaker 2: What's the same we we you know, we steal things
Speaker 2: and use them in different ways and exactly you know,
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: Just whether you pay pay.
Speaker 2: World, yeah, whether you're paying anyone, yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm not getting paid for anything. So that's fine. So
Speaker 3: album's done, got another song coming up soon? M is it?
Speaker 1: Does that mean another album is coming imminently.
Speaker 2: Or I am writing constantly so I'm yeah, hopefully it
Speaker 2: will form an album for sure. I'm also like doing
Speaker 2: a bit of like collaborating as well, and so whilst
Speaker 2: I'm pretty new to Suffered Manchester, I'm hoping you can
Speaker 2: meet some more artists here do some stuff with people
Speaker 2: here as well.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna I'm open to collaborations. Who's like top
Speaker 3: of the list?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like other queer artists are always up
Speaker 2: there and I have done that in the past in
Speaker 2: real life in London mostly but also like remotely so
Speaker 2: some artists, like there's someone in Canada for some people
Speaker 2: in Germany. But yeah, so I'm really open to just
Speaker 2: meeting some new people and make some connections and seeing
Speaker 2: what kind of comes comes from that.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think I think there might be a collabs
Speaker 1: our friends of the show and there, because we've got
Speaker 1: some queer musicians that we might have to get you
Speaker 1: into contact with. Please do bet us up on a
Speaker 1: line date. Well, there's a couple, I'll put you all
Speaker 1: in the room, see what happens. Okay, well in getting
Speaker 1: keeping the rights.
Speaker 3: Yeah, strangely, that's not the first time that's happened.
Speaker 2: I thought that world collab was used for lots of things.
Speaker 1: Coolab We've had people like Smash Beyond Polisher, So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's great.
Speaker 3: Both of we would love to see that happen.
Speaker 2: I did like a queer pop podcast during the pandemic,
Speaker 2: and so that was my way of kind of finding
Speaker 2: those other queer pop artists from.
Speaker 3: Around the world.
Speaker 2: And they were both artists that I'd found and I
Speaker 2: don't think ever spoke to smash Me would definitely include
Speaker 2: their music by chatted to Palm. So we've never met
Speaker 2: in real life, but we've spoken over zoom.
Speaker 3: Maybe now is the time. Maybe now is the time. Yes.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: So if people want to get in contact with your
Speaker 1: social media wise, what's what's.
Speaker 3: Your bits my bets?
Speaker 2: You can find my bits and bobs on all the
Speaker 2: socials ven Smith so v E double N like a
Speaker 2: ven diagram and Smith with a Y.
Speaker 1: Great, there's is there a lot of crossover in your
Speaker 1: socials diagram crossover, There is a lot of crossover.
Speaker 3: I did the math joke. Yeah, everyone loves maths.
Speaker 1: And well thank you for coming on.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, thank you for having me and listening to the album.
Speaker 1: It's actually a bop, yes certified bop. Certain I nearly
Speaker 1: had an accident dancing in the car.
Speaker 3: Well that's because I needed to peak quite desperately.
Speaker 2: But that's almost the end of the show. Just remember
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Speaker 1: Thank you for watching and we will see you all soon.
Speaker 3: Bye bye. Let me just talk about