WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.799 --> 00:00:07.280 Well, whiskey, come and take my pain, the honeys, my ry, 2 00:00:07.799 --> 00:00:12.039 oh whiskey. Why think alone when you can drink it 3 00:00:12.080 --> 00:00:14.839 all in with Ricochet's three whiskey Happy Hour. 4 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:18.239 Join your bartenders, Steve Hayward, John U. 5 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:25.879 And the International Woman of Mystery, Lucretia, where. 6 00:00:25.760 --> 00:00:26.559 They lapped it up. 7 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:30.079 It'll David, ain't you easy on the soul taps? 8 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:33.799 Got a give me Well, this is a crazy three 9 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:38.640 whiskey happy hour. We've got John Yu in an undisclosed 10 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:42.320 location on the California coast. I Lucretia. I'm in my 11 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:45.280 usual bunker way in the midst of the desert somewhere. 12 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:51.439 But Steve is somewhere unknown, on a huge ocean liner 13 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:57.479 traversing the globe, supposedly between Japan and Vancouver. 14 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:01.240 Eventually eventually Vancouver by way of Alaska. 15 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:07.480 So okay, and so Steve is trusting Elon Musk to 16 00:01:08.079 --> 00:01:10.599 keep Starlink going, even if he's not going to do 17 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:15.400 anything about the McDonald's ice cream machines, even though we 18 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:18.120 all know he could best meme of the week if 19 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:25.319 you ask me anyway. Welcome everybody, Welcome Steve. I hope 20 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:27.200 you having a good time. Welcome John. 21 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:29.400 Oh, how can you not have a good time when 22 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:31.000 you have you know, you don't have to do your 23 00:01:31.239 --> 00:01:34.519 laundry and housekeeping. And when you have, you know, three 24 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:37.319 square meals a day, plus bartenders at your beck and 25 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:38.359 call on every deck. 26 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:44.120 Steve, that just sounds like being married to a good woman. 27 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:49.799 Oh, be glad I'm listening through this trough headsets and 28 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:52.599 not broadcasting through the spouse sitting not far away. 29 00:01:54.120 --> 00:01:54.760 She would laugh. 30 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:56.879 I was trying to get Allison to come over and 31 00:01:56.959 --> 00:01:58.079 hit you with a frying. 32 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:02.359 Pan, saying there aren't many of those in your cabin. 33 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:04.159 And you're suite no, but I have this. 34 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:06.239 I have this huge suite and I have my own 35 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:10.400 really lavish bar supplied every other day with a fresh 36 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:12.159 bottle of tankaaye gin for martini. 37 00:02:12.280 --> 00:02:13.199 So it's great. 38 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:17.080 What are you drinking in the morning? 39 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:17.639 She writes? 40 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:18.840 What's that? 41 00:02:19.560 --> 00:02:21.319 Are you any one of those fancy cruise ships where 42 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:22.680 you can drink as much as you want? 43 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:23.360 Yes? 44 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:23.840 Anything? 45 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:28.120 Yeah, yeah, oh wow. And I don't think it. 46 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:31.199 Was just like Carnival Cruise Lines or something for the 47 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:33.599 extra package. I didn't know like that was for real. 48 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:38.159 Yeah, what are you drinking? John? Steve it's eight in 49 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:40.759 the morning, so he's probably drinking mimosas. 50 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:44.800 Actually five pm here, I'm still working, so I was 51 00:02:44.840 --> 00:02:45.879 just drinking coffee. 52 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:49.479 But I do have some wild I have crossed four 53 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:52.560 time zones in the Pacific so far, so it's actually 54 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:54.800 one o'clock in the morning one o'clock in the afternoon 55 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:56.800 where I am presently, so I'm not that far away 56 00:02:56.800 --> 00:02:57.400 from you, guys. 57 00:02:57.520 --> 00:03:00.919 I'm going to break this so I'll break out the 58 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:02.120 world Turkey Rare. 59 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:08.919 Yeah, you might need it for today's Three Whiskey Happy Hour. 60 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:11.680 There's a lot of crazy things on the menu today 61 00:03:11.800 --> 00:03:13.800 on the agenda, but I'm going to start with what 62 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:16.520 was my second favorite meme of the week, which from 63 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:19.639 the Babylon B getting ahead of myself starting off the 64 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:23.879 show with Babylon B that it was a big announcement. 65 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:27.360 Just so you guys know, we have a long running 66 00:03:28.039 --> 00:03:31.159 three way chat between the Three Whiskey Happy Hour co 67 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:35.360 hosts and sometimes it's very serious. Sometimes it's a little 68 00:03:35.439 --> 00:03:39.080 lesson serious, but it almost always has the latest news 69 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:42.960 about McDonald's, and the latest news about McDonald's happened to 70 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:46.439 be that they were for the two hundred and fiftieth 71 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:49.800 anniversary they were going to be bringing back the fried 72 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:53.080 apple pie. John's response is exactly mine, although I didn't 73 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:54.879 write it, which was I never knew it was gone. 74 00:03:55.960 --> 00:04:01.039 But the Babylon b posted one at their memes saying 75 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:06.240 the McDonald's is bringing back the fried apple pie with 76 00:04:06.360 --> 00:04:13.319 real cocaine. Why reminds me of that meme where the 77 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:16.360 little girl asks her mom how come it is it? 78 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:18.879 Grandma always got so much more than you done in 79 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:21.439 a day than you do mom, and her answer, when 80 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:24.680 your grandma was my age, they had cocaine in the 81 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:28.000 coca cola, and anyway, there you go. 82 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:32.800 So so here's two observations about the return of this wonderful, 83 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:37.199 wonderful dish. Is one, what's your record for how many 84 00:04:37.279 --> 00:04:39.480 you've eaten in one sitting? Minus three. 85 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:46.000 Half half and not even because I'd burned the roof 86 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:47.839 of my mouth, just because you know. 87 00:04:49.639 --> 00:04:51.319 See the key is you got to eat them from 88 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:53.519 the middle, break it open, eat the filing, don't eat 89 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:57.639 the crusts at either end, so that preserves more stomach space. 90 00:04:57.879 --> 00:04:59.560 And then the other thing I really loved about it 91 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:02.079 is a was that the you know came in this 92 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:07.160 really interesting plastic paper holder which sleeps like kind of 93 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:09.879 like a gun holster to me, And I was like, 94 00:05:09.920 --> 00:05:12.360 I wonder if you could repurpose it as like a 95 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:15.439 BB gun holder once you were done eating the apple pie. 96 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:19.439 But I think you actually could have done what you said, John, 97 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:22.920 break it in half and use the apple pie itself 98 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:25.839 as a weapon to shoot. You shoot that hot apple 99 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:30.360 pie filling into somebody's face. Good, it's good as a handgun, 100 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:30.839 I think. 101 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:31.319 Yeah. 102 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:33.639 I think the McDonald's that hot apple pie is with 103 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:35.879 the sleeve you mentioned, John, I think they gave birth 104 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:37.920 to the hot pockets, which I think are one of 105 00:05:37.920 --> 00:05:42.680 the worst frozen food inventions of all time when newsed properly. 106 00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:46.800 Oh well, yeah, keep it that way, that's my advice. 107 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:49.720 Why why do you consider it the worst? I mean, 108 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:52.360 I know it's just a package of chemicals and I'd 109 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:54.560 never eat one today, but I used to like them. 110 00:05:54.759 --> 00:05:57.360 Well, it's not much that, it's that when you actually 111 00:05:57.360 --> 00:05:59.879 cooked them properly in their sleeve, they are they will 112 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:02.759 earn your mouth. And who has the discipline to wait 113 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:05.079 two minutes from the cool off I certainly don't, right, 114 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:07.120 It's an instant gratification. 115 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:10.000 Food and well you're just smarter than the rest of us. 116 00:06:10.040 --> 00:06:12.160 But I don't know about smarter. I just don't want 117 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:12.680 my mouth. 118 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:14.800 And then I'm trying to think of it. It's Jim Gaffigan. 119 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:18.000 He's the comedian who does a wonderful routine on hot pockets. 120 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:21.319 I recommend interested listeners look it up on YouTube. 121 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:24.319 I will you know. The other thing about this Elon 122 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:27.000 Musk ice cream machine meme is I don't know why 123 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:29.600 Elon Musk just doesn't buy McDonald's, Like he doesn't have 124 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:33.000 to fix the ice cream machines. He's enough money now 125 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:35.800 that he could just buy McDonald's, probably with a few 126 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:40.079 weeks of interest on his massive stockholdings. Is Bicex now 127 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:43.639 the fifth largest country company in the world, and he 128 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:47.720 could just buy McDonald's close throughout all the ice cream 129 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:50.279 machines or so. 130 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:51.399 Like he should. 131 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:53.759 He could he reached a partnership with what is it 132 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:56.439 cold Stone Creamery and have then come in and run 133 00:06:56.480 --> 00:06:58.160 all the ice cream I don't know why they need 134 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:00.639 to make ice cream machines, although I we'll say, when 135 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:03.920 we were in Italy together, I did get one of 136 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:09.600 the soft serve ice creams for just two euros and it. 137 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:12.000 Was great at McDonald's. 138 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:16.040 Yeah, of course, yeah, McDonald You did what we've been to too. 139 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:18.439 Many gelatto places. You went to McDonald's. 140 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:21.120 Yeah, and I got the soft serve because it was 141 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:23.800 only two euros. Everything over and then in Europe is 142 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:26.839 so expensive. I don't want to pay everybody's social welfare 143 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:29.279 benefits every time I buy something, so I thought i'd 144 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:30.879 go to McDonald's to get something cheap. 145 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:35.759 You live in California, you live in everybody's benefits everywhere 146 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:36.160 you go. 147 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:37.519 That's true. 148 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:43.199 Oh, anyway, I do have. These guys didn't list it 149 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:45.319 as something they wanted to talk about, but I'm still 150 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:50.959 reveling in it. So the two hundred and fiftieth Birthday 151 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:58.680 celebration with UFC at the White House was the most 152 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:06.680 incredibly successful patriotic event of probably the last half century, 153 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:13.360 I would argue. And it was amazing. Why Why? Because 154 00:08:14.079 --> 00:08:23.079 it was manly, it was it celebrated warriors. They gave 155 00:08:23.120 --> 00:08:27.639 away four thousand tickets to members of our military, not 156 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:31.360 to rich, hoity toity people that could pay like they 157 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:34.679 did for the nixt tickets. And there was this did 158 00:08:34.679 --> 00:08:40.519 you see the flyover? This amazing flyover, And there were 159 00:08:40.879 --> 00:08:44.639 two hundred thousand people who came through the Ellipse over 160 00:08:44.679 --> 00:08:48.840 that weekend. I mean, it was just it was a wonderful, 161 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:52.440 patriotic expression of what it means to be an American. 162 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:55.120 America is so back, baby, I saw that all our 163 00:08:55.159 --> 00:09:00.799 conservative commentary. Now, on the other hand, the decided they 164 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:04.639 needed counter programming. Did you watch any of that, John. 165 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:08.559 Steve, No, But I didn't. I really, I didn't want 166 00:09:08.600 --> 00:09:10.960 to watch the UFC. I don't really like UFC. I 167 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:14.120 think it's a little too brutal for me. I didn't 168 00:09:14.120 --> 00:09:17.240 watch the counter programming either, but gosh, I don't know 169 00:09:17.320 --> 00:09:19.360 some of it. And we were just in Sicily where 170 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:24.519 we saw this amazing mosaic depicting the gladiatorial games and 171 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:27.039 all the wild animals they were capturing to throw in 172 00:09:27.080 --> 00:09:30.039 with the with the people in the coliseum, and I 173 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:34.919 don't know the UFC. It's so outrageously brutal. I know, 174 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:36.559 I got the feeling where we're like in the late 175 00:09:36.639 --> 00:09:38.159 Roman Empire or something. 176 00:09:38.840 --> 00:09:39.240 You know. 177 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:42.480 You say that, John, but actually, if you were to 178 00:09:42.519 --> 00:09:49.120 look at UFC permanent injuries versus say, football permanent injuries, 179 00:09:49.879 --> 00:09:54.399 even well, I mean soccer pretend permanent injuries oh, oh, 180 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:58.919 you know, it does seem brutal. I don't like watching it, 181 00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:01.360 I'll be honest with you, but but I celebrate it. 182 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:06.080 Do you see the difference. I'm a mom, so mom's 183 00:10:06.159 --> 00:10:08.879 never liked seeing these things. I actually watched my son 184 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:11.919 when he was he shouldn't have been fighting. He was 185 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:16.240 hurt anyway, and I almost ran into the ring and 186 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:19.039 pulled the guy the guy off of him. I mean, 187 00:10:19.399 --> 00:10:22.000 it's hard for moms to watch those things. I'm just saying, 188 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:24.320 but I try to put myself back from it and 189 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:27.919 say this is awesome, but really quickly steve and break in. 190 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:31.279 Yeah, well, if my connection holds up an observation, you know, 191 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:35.279 the New York Times bestseller list never includes best selling 192 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:37.919 novels by say Christian authors, like the old Tim Lahay books, 193 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:39.480 which I thought were not very good books. 194 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:43.679 But C. S. Lewis's books sell huge numbers. He just exclude. Really, 195 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:45.000 they just ignore them. 196 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:50.240 And likewise, on sports, you know UFC and also professional wrestling, 197 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:53.919 they're massively popular, but you'll never see them discussed on 198 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:56.559 the sports pages of the elite media. And it was 199 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:58.559 the late John von Cannon, you know, it was the 200 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:00.799 Heritage Foundation for years. He pointed this out to me, 201 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:03.960 that professional wrestling, you know, we know it's all fake, 202 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:05.799 but it's just it's a morality play. You have good 203 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:08.120 guys and bad guys people for the audience to cheer for. 204 00:11:08.600 --> 00:11:09.320 They're like old. 205 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:12.360 Fashioned scripted melodramas. And of course everyone knows they're fake. 206 00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:15.399 But and you know, I've never excited me, but John 207 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:17.080 used to go to them because he said they're a 208 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:20.919 conservative phenomenon. So it's sort of like the National Acquirer newspaper, 209 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:23.360 which is a conservative newspaper in some ways, even when 210 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:26.679 it's reporting on you know, UFOs and crazy stuff. So 211 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:29.639 you know, that's and that's the thing that Trump understands. 212 00:11:29.720 --> 00:11:32.559 He's playing not to the elite media. He's playing to 213 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:36.120 the broad cross section of the American population that likes 214 00:11:36.120 --> 00:11:37.279 these kinds of spectacles. 215 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:41.840 So that's why, I mean, it's a little Brendon for me. No, No, 216 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:45.879 it's like Brendan circuses during the Roman Empire. And you know, 217 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:49.679 when we were texting about this, I think stever Lucretius 218 00:11:49.720 --> 00:11:53.000 said it's just like the golden era of the Roman Empire. 219 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:55.000 But I was like, are we really in the age 220 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:57.639 of Marcus Aurelius here or are we in the age of 221 00:11:57.679 --> 00:12:01.919 his son comtists who started the decline and fall of 222 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:06.759 the empire with excessive fascination with glad It's communists. Was 223 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:08.720 I think he did train as a gladiator. I think 224 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:10.960 that was actually a true thing that they put in 225 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:15.679 the movie Gladiator. Yeah, I mean, but I don't know. 226 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:19.200 Some of the spectacle of it is reflected kind of 227 00:12:19.240 --> 00:12:21.320 blood thirst. Now, I'm not saying we should go back 228 00:12:21.320 --> 00:12:25.360 to the days where like John F. Kennedy and Jackie Kennedy, 229 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:28.679 you know, had Robert Frost and you know, people like 230 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:30.960 this to sort of pretend that there was high culture 231 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:32.559 at the White House. I don't think it needs to 232 00:12:32.600 --> 00:12:36.200 be that. But God, this this UFC seems but can't 233 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:38.960 we just have the Philadelphia Eagles play the Dallas Cowboys 234 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:40.799 on the White House lone he kicked the crap out 235 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:41.080 of them. 236 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:43.039 Watch. 237 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:47.440 No, it wouldn't. But anyway, again, it's no less brutal 238 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:51.919 in this case. Anyway, the reason what John is mentioning, 239 00:12:51.960 --> 00:12:53.600 I just have to put this one out there too. 240 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:57.440 Again from our text message stream, I sent these guys 241 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:00.879 this thing from X and it was I love all 242 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:04.399 of this happened on Saturday Sunday. I love that we're 243 00:13:04.399 --> 00:13:07.919 the new Rome, peace with Persia in the afternoon and 244 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:11.159 a gladiator fight in the evening, all on the Emperor's birthday, 245 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:16.399 another thousand years. And my response to that was, Steve 246 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:18.759 loses his title to analogy. 247 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:23.960 Man oh man, I am crushed. This is what happens 248 00:13:23.960 --> 00:13:26.360 when I, you know, leave the country, When you leave. 249 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:30.639 The country take place. I do last comment from me 250 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:32.840 on this, and that is you. If you have not 251 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:36.320 seen the leftist programming on this, you've you've got to 252 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:42.279 spend five minutes Google, Rise Up, Rise Up, and whatever 253 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:45.399 the hell it, rise up and sing out. And it's 254 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:48.559 Jane Fonda. And you're right, Steve, she is just man 255 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:53.240 oh man, She's just a sort of a a grotesque, 256 00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:57.799 you know. It's just as in the noun, yeah, like. 257 00:13:57.720 --> 00:13:59.080 A waxwork nightmare. 258 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:02.559 It's amazing, awful and that. But here's the crazy part. 259 00:14:02.679 --> 00:14:06.759 Bete Midler. I remember when Bette Midler was a talented singer, 260 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:10.679 right right, and she sings this off key with these 261 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:16.039 old fat ladies strumming their stupid fake instruments or not 262 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:20.759 even like banjos, and they're singing I don't even know. 263 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:24.000 It's just like the ones you would see at protests, 264 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:28.000 off key and the most cringe worthy thing you've ever seen. 265 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:32.039 And of course then Robert de Niro accuses us of 266 00:14:32.279 --> 00:14:35.799 and all of us who actually still love our country, 267 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:41.440 of being abused wives because our country has abused us 268 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:45.000 so badly by electing Donald Trump. It was just awful. 269 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:48.919 And they charged quite a bit of money for people 270 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:51.639 to show up at the at the Theater in New 271 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:54.200 York to do this, and then they put it online 272 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:58.360 and it got more. It got more views online from 273 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:00.720 people who got on to make fun of it than 274 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:04.919 it did originally. So anyway, that makes me happy because 275 00:15:06.159 --> 00:15:09.279 I'm with John. I don't like watching UFC. I don't 276 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:12.559 even like watching my kid when he fights MMA. But 277 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:17.120 it's but but I celebrate it, and I celebrate the 278 00:15:17.159 --> 00:15:19.279 people out there that Trump was appealing to you by 279 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:21.440 doing it, so I'm all in favor of it. Well, 280 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:25.840 kind of leads us into moving things around a little bit. 281 00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:31.600 The next topic, which is the Iran deal. I'm gonna 282 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:33.879 let you guys talk on that because I've got my thoughts, 283 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:37.720 but you guys are the experts. John tell us what's 284 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:39.879 in the deal you neo con. 285 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:44.320 Steve Steve Steve posted a critique of it, I believe 286 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:51.720 in a minute, But I actually am maybe more favorable 287 00:15:51.799 --> 00:15:55.440 to the overall conflict than Steve was, and I think 288 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:59.039 some of our friends are going overboard and attacking it. 289 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:02.240 I've heard some friends of mine at the National Review 290 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:07.159 podcasts comparing this work to Vietnam in terms of its 291 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:10.960 setback for American foreign policy, which I think is completely wrong. 292 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:13.679 I mean, I think if you take the agreement out 293 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:16.919 of it, and a lot of the agreement is temporary 294 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:22.519 and hinges on negotiations over thirty or sixty days, look 295 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:25.480 at what the United States achieved. So here, I'm putting 296 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:29.639 on my neo con helmet here, Linda. We don't put 297 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:31.919 on tenfoil hats in the neocon and we put on 298 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:35.919 real helmets, by the way, So you know, So one, 299 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:42.080 we've destroyed Iran's anti aircraft defenses. We've destroyed its air force, 300 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:46.759 its navy, a lot of its military assets. If you 301 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:50.279 believe what the Southcom commander said when he testified to 302 00:16:50.519 --> 00:16:55.000 Congress a few weeks ago, he said, we've destroyed the 303 00:16:55.200 --> 00:17:00.039 industrial base that was necessary for Iran to build the 304 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:02.600 the drones and missiles with which to threaten its neighbors. 305 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:06.160 Of course, we've destroyed large, large stocks of those, and 306 00:17:06.240 --> 00:17:10.279 we've buried its nuclear program under mountains of rubble. That 307 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:13.599 in itself is an achievement because if you think about 308 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:18.680 where the world was before October seventh, no American president 309 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:22.119 would dare attack Iran. Right. They were worried about the 310 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:24.920 attacks on Israel that would occur. They worried about the 311 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:27.680 straits of Hermose closing, But they were all worried about 312 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:31.240 Iran firing off all these missiles and destroying everywhere other 313 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:33.880 of them and didn't turn out that way. I think 314 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:38.720 in many respects Iran was a military paper tiger. Think 315 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:41.440 about this, they get attacked, what does Iran do. They 316 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:45.519 fire missiles at civilians in the neutral countries all around it, 317 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:48.599 and they closed the straits before moves. That is not 318 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:53.759 a response of strength. So I think we uh. But 319 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:56.480 what I think, what the people who are critical and 320 00:17:56.519 --> 00:18:00.359 what Americans often want is just outright victory. And what 321 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:04.559 we're doing is we're containing a problem. We have knocked 322 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:07.319 the Iranians back I think five years at least in 323 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:11.519 the terms of rebuilding. All this military industrial capacity. So 324 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:14.440 I think that is we are better off I think 325 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:19.240 now than we were before. I think what people are 326 00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:23.039 upset about is the idea that we would trade sanctions, 327 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:28.039 relief and money in exchange for Iranian promises to allow 328 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:31.400 the Straits to reopen. That's all I think that is. 329 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:34.680 I think that's a short term problem. We are apparently 330 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:37.480 allowing Iran to sell oil, and we are lifting some 331 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:43.640 sanctions temporarily pending this longer term permanent deal. I would 332 00:18:43.640 --> 00:18:47.200 be amazed if we actually reach a long term permanent deal, 333 00:18:47.480 --> 00:18:49.359 and if we don't, then what we're going to have 334 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:51.759 is a kind of stalemate like we did with a 335 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:54.279 rock after the first Persian Gulf War, where we might 336 00:18:54.319 --> 00:18:58.440 need to keep a somewhat permanent air presence around Iran 337 00:18:58.559 --> 00:19:02.240 and periodically bomb when it tries to rebuild its nuclear 338 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:05.640 program and it's missile stocks if they don't cooperate, And 339 00:19:05.680 --> 00:19:07.759 that to me is a neo con is not such 340 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:08.920 a bad outcome in the end. 341 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:13.920 Yeah, So I'm actually more favorable to it than might 342 00:19:13.920 --> 00:19:15.480 have seen from what I wrote a couple of days ago, 343 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:17.440 and in fact I just posted a piece before we 344 00:19:17.559 --> 00:19:20.000 got on here together a few minutes ago by this 345 00:19:20.039 --> 00:19:22.799 guy named Clayton Wood, who I don't know, but he 346 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:25.839 writes really interesting stuff. And Mac owens up at the 347 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:27.960 you know, retired from Naval War College, who of course 348 00:19:28.039 --> 00:19:28.799 we all know and love. 349 00:19:28.920 --> 00:19:29.680 He likes this. 350 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:32.720 Guy because I asked Mac, I said, you know, give 351 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:33.839 me your thumbs up on his sky. 352 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:36.440 Mac thinks this, well, he. 353 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:38.440 Hasn't set himself at least if he has, I missed it, 354 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:40.960 but he thinks this Clayton Wood guy's account is pretty good. 355 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:43.839 This guy added one detail onto my analysis a couple 356 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:46.279 of days ago, which was apparently, and I guess this 357 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:50.559 is confirmed in reliable reporting, the Saudis were not cooperating 358 00:19:50.599 --> 00:19:52.759 with our blockade and we're making. 359 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:54.960 It difficult for us to suit right. 360 00:19:54.880 --> 00:19:57.400 And so that was one factor. The other factors right, 361 00:19:57.440 --> 00:19:58.920 And the other factor I pointed to, and I think 362 00:19:58.960 --> 00:20:00.920 I mentioned this before, is you know, the oil people 363 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:04.000 I know who really know the world market said we're 364 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:06.319 you know, four or five weeks away from running out. 365 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:09.039 I mean the storage tank said Cushing, Oklahoma are getting 366 00:20:09.079 --> 00:20:12.359 down to the bottom. And the Strategic Petroleum Reserve you 367 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:14.799 know that we have that, you know, Biden foolishly depleted 368 00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:18.960 some and didn't refill. It's nearly empty, and storage units 369 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:22.079 around the world which were designed after the oil crises 370 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:25.559 in the nineteen seventies precisely for this moment, which is 371 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:29.200 why this war has had minimal economic impact. Really, I mean, 372 00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:31.160 you know, gas prices, we know, we don't like it, 373 00:20:31.200 --> 00:20:34.160 but it's nothing like the crises of the seventies, even 374 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:36.920 though this is a bigger disruption to the Middle Eastern 375 00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:37.480 oil trade. 376 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:39.039 So it's a. 377 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:41.200 Different world now, but it's still we were looking at 378 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:43.519 some potentially you know, Trump said I wanted to avoid 379 00:20:43.519 --> 00:20:44.799 an economic catastrophe. 380 00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:46.440 He's possibly right about that. 381 00:20:47.559 --> 00:20:51.559 Finally, this Clayton Wood guide doesn't say this, or Abe does, 382 00:20:51.559 --> 00:20:53.960 but I did, Which is we still don't know or 383 00:20:54.079 --> 00:20:57.559 if our Cia does know, and I doubt it. The 384 00:20:57.599 --> 00:21:00.960 internal dynamics are among the Iranian fact actions these days. 385 00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:03.200 You know, who are we dealing with? We don't know. 386 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:05.759 And you know, I posted the picture of the Iranian 387 00:21:05.799 --> 00:21:07.720 minister who signed the deal. He doesn't look like a 388 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:10.799 happy guy, unlike the guys ten years ago who were 389 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:14.640 grinning from ear to ear with Obama's deal. Right, And 390 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:16.720 so I don't know, Maybe this flushes out that and 391 00:21:16.920 --> 00:21:19.680 causes a bigger problem to run. No way to know, 392 00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:22.200 but I do think we should withhold judgment. And the 393 00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:24.480 last thing I said was, it's echo what you said, 394 00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:27.000 John is the beat. Well, first of all, we know 395 00:21:27.039 --> 00:21:29.119 the media is going to dump all over this deal 396 00:21:29.279 --> 00:21:32.000 because it's Trump and the Democrats. I've saw a few 397 00:21:32.039 --> 00:21:34.640 of them on TV, on the cable international cable news, 398 00:21:34.680 --> 00:21:36.039 and they're all suddenly hawkish. 399 00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:38.400 Oh my god, Iron has won this war. It's terrible, 400 00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:39.359 what a terrible deal. 401 00:21:39.880 --> 00:21:42.240