1 00:00:15,599 --> 00:00:19,559 Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans? Welcome to season four, 2 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,160 episode twelve of Clips and Dip. I am Chuck Fuckler, 3 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,359 joined by Adam Doctor Evil Osland himself. William Updyke is here. 4 00:00:28,839 --> 00:00:31,839 We are hopefully one of your preferred Clippers podcasts. They're 5 00:00:31,879 --> 00:00:33,640 all very good, They're all very funny. You shoul listen 6 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,679 to all of them. If you're listening to us. Thank you. 7 00:00:35,719 --> 00:00:37,560 If you'd like to watch us, find us at YouTube 8 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,399 dot com slash at Clippers podcast. Today we are talking 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:46,280 a road trip check in remaining roady outlook, we gotta haggle, 10 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:52,759 no haggle. How are you fellas doing? Just in general? 11 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,159 I guess things have been kind of cruel to the 12 00:00:55,159 --> 00:00:56,119 Clippers recently. 13 00:00:57,719 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: I'm annoyed with some dumbasses on Twitter everybody else. 14 00:01:02,719 --> 00:01:07,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna get into that for sure, Will How 15 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,359 are you you survived a rainy drive? 16 00:01:12,079 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 3: Yeah? I'm doing good man. Uh, Clipper stuff is a bummer, 17 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,439 but you just gotta take it in stride, you know, 18 00:01:19,519 --> 00:01:20,480 let's have a little fun. 19 00:01:21,359 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we aren't fully now. 20 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: At the like take it in stride? Is the T shirt? 21 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? Very long acrosstick that have to come up for that. 22 00:01:31,239 --> 00:01:40,280 One the colonel. Oh man, is that is that Kobe's 23 00:01:40,359 --> 00:01:42,319 he's cooking out there. I don't know if we can 24 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,560 call the colonel. We are going to talk about Kobe Sanders. 25 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,920 For those of you who missed it but for some reason, 26 00:01:48,799 --> 00:01:52,560 watch a Clippers podcast. Some things have happened since we 27 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,680 were last all three together four and ten. Derek Jones 28 00:01:55,719 --> 00:01:58,239 Junior is out six weeks, Kawhi hasn't played on the 29 00:01:58,319 --> 00:02:00,840 road trip yet and isn't certain to return by the 30 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,920 end of the trip, and the Clippers had two buzzer 31 00:02:05,719 --> 00:02:12,240 beating losses on a back to back. Uh so things 32 00:02:13,719 --> 00:02:14,719 I feel a bit. 33 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 3: And some sham wrapping, some sham and. 34 00:02:17,479 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: Some horrible reffing that was horrible. Yeah, I know, I'm like, great, 35 00:02:24,599 --> 00:02:29,439 the two minute report vindicates my feelings. 36 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: The thing is, they get you know, they get graded 37 00:02:32,719 --> 00:02:35,240 on this stuff, and I would rather have them admit 38 00:02:35,319 --> 00:02:37,479 they get a call wrong, even if there's nothing you 39 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:42,560 can do about it later, for accountability reasons, I would 40 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:53,840 rather have that game won't make the playoff paychecks if 41 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,360 guys get enough of these bad marks, so it matters. 42 00:02:57,199 --> 00:03:00,599 Speaker 1: Whichever ref had the worst like mark should have to 43 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:06,360 wear same ref uniform. But it's just pe yellow. It's 44 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,439 just like a horrible shade of yellow to be like, oh, 45 00:03:08,439 --> 00:03:10,280 that's that's the guy who's on a warning. 46 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: Like a Lakers jersey. 47 00:03:13,039 --> 00:03:13,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 48 00:03:13,879 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: Well, it was a lot like that. 49 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're right there already. So there's obviously a lot 50 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,719 of bad things happening with the Clippers. Things aren't going well. 51 00:03:24,599 --> 00:03:29,319 There's a couple of positives, right, Yes, there's a car. 52 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 2: There is one pretty big positive that is being overlooked 53 00:03:34,719 --> 00:03:38,520 right now, understandably because they've lost an their last nine games. 54 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,560 But Kobe Sanders has been awesome. He's been amazing, He's 55 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:44,039 been great. 56 00:03:44,319 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: What did you call him on Twitter? I don't know, 57 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,039 Will if you've heard this, but I think you will 58 00:03:48,159 --> 00:03:48,960 agree with it. 59 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: The six seven TJ McConnell, Yeah, baby, now that through that, 60 00:03:58,599 --> 00:04:02,639 because Lotto was six seven, he'd probably be a much 61 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,039 better player and average more than like eight points per 62 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,439 game in his NBA career. 63 00:04:09,319 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: He'd be very good. 64 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,159 Speaker 2: If you look at his posture and the way he 65 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,519 hunches over in his gait when he runs with the ball, 66 00:04:16,759 --> 00:04:19,160 like you could see a little bit of shades of 67 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,920 TJ McConnell. And then also just effort in tangibles. That 68 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,480 rebound that we thought was going to lead to him 69 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,839 taking free throws. Instead it goes to Andre Drummond making 70 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,480 it a four point game, and we thought Kobe Sanders 71 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,480 might tie the game. His shot for him even looks 72 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,560 kind of similar. He's unafraid. He's making winning plays out there. 73 00:04:40,079 --> 00:04:43,680 Like he looks mature. I love what I'm seeing. 74 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,199 Speaker 1: He looks mature. And you mentioned the Andre Drummond rebound. 75 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,439 He also had a board late. He was going for 76 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,360 an offensive board late against the I think it was 77 00:04:54,399 --> 00:04:58,120 the Sixers, and it caused them to have to, you know, 78 00:04:58,199 --> 00:04:59,839 prevent him from getting it, and they knocked it out 79 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,000 of bound. So the Clipper's got an extra procession from 80 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,279 that too. So like he's doing the little things that 81 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,319 this team desperately. 82 00:05:06,759 --> 00:05:09,959 Speaker 2: Needs, even hard in getting that second three after he 83 00:05:09,959 --> 00:05:11,680 should have got the foul in the first one that 84 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,079 was because of Kobe Sanders knocking the ball out. 85 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: Yes, So our question to you, Will is when are 86 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,759 you getting a Kobe Sanders jersey? Mm? 87 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 3: Why does you both know? I have so many jerseys 88 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,720 it's going to be difficult to make room. 89 00:05:26,879 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: Fans of the pod No of Updyke's jersey prowess. 90 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: Prolific jersey owner William Updike. I also like the idea 91 00:05:37,959 --> 00:05:40,399 that young players now they have access to tape and 92 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,839 fan at its of every player who's ever played the game. 93 00:05:42,959 --> 00:05:45,279 And I'd like to think that maybe there's some kids 94 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,680 out there looking at TJ. McConnell's holme and being like, 95 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,560 this is the way. This is actually the way. 96 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: They would be smart to you have a better It's like, 97 00:05:56,759 --> 00:05:59,160 say what you will? I think that would prove a 98 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,639 lot of kids. Yeah, that would help a lot of kids. 99 00:06:02,759 --> 00:06:05,120 I'm not shooting on McConnell. This is a compliment. I'm 100 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,920 giving a compliment. No, I agree. 101 00:06:06,959 --> 00:06:11,439 Speaker 2: That's how you make good. Yeah, that's what he did 102 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,839 that playoff front last year. You remember that play where 103 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,839 he cooked SGA multiple times in the finals. 104 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: He's a lunative. 105 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 2: He's the kind of guy like that. 106 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's the kind of guy that, like, if 107 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,399 you want to be a pro basketball player, not a star, 108 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,519 that's one of the guys on the list of like 109 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,079 here's how to play professional basketball. Be in the right spot, 110 00:06:32,199 --> 00:06:32,839 do your job. 111 00:06:34,439 --> 00:06:38,199 Speaker 2: Kobe Sanders looks like an instantly good role player for 112 00:06:38,319 --> 00:06:41,040 this team right now. I will say this though. 113 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,879 Speaker 1: Say something about our depth, but he has. 114 00:06:43,759 --> 00:06:46,759 Speaker 2: To keep shooting from the outside. If the three start 115 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,160 to fall off, then you're in trouble. But he's not 116 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,560 a great athlete like TJ McConnell, but tries really hard 117 00:06:52,639 --> 00:06:56,279 on defense and it's good enough because of that. He's 118 00:06:56,319 --> 00:06:57,600 doing so many things well. 119 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,519 Speaker 1: Right now, he's shooting like thirty eight percent from three 120 00:07:01,959 --> 00:07:04,000 or something where it's like, keep it up, man, we 121 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:04,600 need all of this. 122 00:07:05,199 --> 00:07:08,519 Speaker 2: Like he's gonna have some run where he misses four 123 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,920 or five in a row and he can't pack it in. 124 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,680 He can't. It's going to happen. He's going to hit 125 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,240 that rookie moment and you just have to stick with 126 00:07:16,279 --> 00:07:16,959 your confidence. 127 00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:21,759 Speaker 1: Are you surprised, I guess like will I was surprised 128 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:26,319 to see not that I hold Cam Christy in some 129 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,120 kind of like, oh, why wasn't he getting plaid time? 130 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,759 But it's kind of like, I don't know. I didn't 131 00:07:30,759 --> 00:07:33,079 think at the beginning of the season, even like two 132 00:07:33,079 --> 00:07:36,879 weeks ago, that Kobe Sanders would be kind of firmly 133 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,279 ahead of Cam Christy eclipsing him. 134 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 3: In the rotation. But I mean, you know, I should 135 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,639 have you know how much I study up on draft 136 00:07:45,639 --> 00:07:49,240 stuff and how much college basketball I watch. I should 137 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:49,680 have known. 138 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,079 Speaker 1: You want the tournament to be. 139 00:07:53,279 --> 00:07:56,399 Speaker 3: I mean, like it's a huge surprise, and honestly, like 140 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,959 we just need him to be some type of serviceable 141 00:08:01,079 --> 00:08:04,160 rotation player and it would be an absolute home run 142 00:08:04,199 --> 00:08:06,519 for this organization in terms of you know what we've 143 00:08:06,519 --> 00:08:10,399 had to deal with draft capability bias. We've talked about 144 00:08:10,399 --> 00:08:13,759 this before when young guys kind of pop, Like, I mean, 145 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,240 you can't pack it in yet on this season, but like, 146 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:18,519 if you want to have any chance of like extending 147 00:08:18,519 --> 00:08:20,480 a run, you have to get some of these guys 148 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,920 to hit. And it sucks that they're coming to you 149 00:08:22,959 --> 00:08:25,959 in the second round, and uh, you know this league 150 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,639 is already so over scouted. But when you find a 151 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:30,879 guy like this, to Adam's point, like you have to 152 00:08:30,879 --> 00:08:33,120 give them the confidence. You have to instill the confidence 153 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:35,000 in them to be able to go through the slumps 154 00:08:35,279 --> 00:08:37,360 and you know, just hope that you can come out 155 00:08:37,399 --> 00:08:41,200 on the other end with some some type of like 156 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,320 rotation player, because that's all that we need right now. 157 00:08:44,639 --> 00:08:45,960 He doesn't even have to turn into. 158 00:08:45,879 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: A star or something. Yeah, be a dollar a year. 159 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,039 Speaker 3: Yet I would be ecstatic if we somehow draft a 160 00:08:57,039 --> 00:08:57,879 t J. McConnell. 161 00:08:58,399 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: Look, considering how good he's been so far, the floor 162 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,919 might be pretty high, and who knows about the ceiling. 163 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: Like, I just don't want to get too ahead of myself. 164 00:09:08,159 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: No, Yeahude, now's the time. We're four and ten, bro, 165 00:09:11,039 --> 00:09:13,720 get too ahead of yourself? Who cares be excited about 166 00:09:13,759 --> 00:09:14,639 Kobe Sanders? 167 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,639 Speaker 2: Look, the key is he has to keep knocking down threes. 168 00:09:18,759 --> 00:09:21,600 All the little intangible stuff I think is there, Like, 169 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,679 I'm not that worried about it, that's innate. But if 170 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,080 he can knock down threes and keep up the confidence 171 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,600 he's shown so far, we're in business. 172 00:09:31,879 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're in the business of Kobe Sanders. Does he 173 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,159 have a nickname? Where are we at with that? He 174 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,279 does foul a lot, But that feels like a rookie 175 00:09:38,279 --> 00:09:42,519 issue versus like an Alex Land issue. 176 00:09:42,639 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 2: He's not like he has to try really hard on 177 00:09:45,759 --> 00:09:47,759 defense to keep up with guys. But he's doing it 178 00:09:47,799 --> 00:09:51,679 just like TJ. Maybe he's the Sandman. He's putting teams 179 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,000 to sleep, Yo, Hobe Sanders. 180 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,399 Speaker 1: Putting teams to sleep. We got Sandman on there. I'm 181 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,159 not mad at that. Did he have a nickname in 182 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,919 college or anything? I'll tell you what. You know, what's 183 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,399 a difficult name to google because they're not quite famous yet. 184 00:10:04,759 --> 00:10:07,840 Kobe Sanders. You get a lot of did you mean 185 00:10:07,879 --> 00:10:10,600 Dion Sanders? Did you mean Kobe Brett? No, I didn't. 186 00:10:10,639 --> 00:10:14,960 I meant Kobe Sanders. He does not have a nickname 187 00:10:15,039 --> 00:10:17,759 on his basketball reference page. He does have a picture, 188 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,519 which is pretty good. 189 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 2: What if we call him the one man Wolfpack because 190 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,240 he played in a bath? 191 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not mad at that. Okay, the AI 192 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,639 overview that I didn't want to use says his nicknames 193 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:37,360 are three and K three. That's not cutting it. Pop pie, 194 00:10:38,399 --> 00:10:39,840 pot pie. I like pot Pie. 195 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 2: He only shot thirty from three in college, So I 196 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,360 am a little suspect of, like, is this going to 197 00:10:48,399 --> 00:10:51,000 turn into a pumpkin? Is outside shooting? His shot looks good. 198 00:10:51,519 --> 00:10:52,759 He's he's letting. 199 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 3: The college shots. They were too close to the basket. 200 00:10:54,639 --> 00:11:01,519 He was prepping for NBA NBA three length. So yeah, well. 201 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,519 Speaker 1: To that point too, Like you mentioned the athleticisms, not 202 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,399 you know, doesn't fly off the page or anything like that, 203 00:11:07,519 --> 00:11:10,960 but in practice, the coaching staff is seeing him hit shots. 204 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,559 I would assume that's why he gets Yeah, the start 205 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,440 and roll like he's not clanging it, and then they're like, 206 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:17,720 go for it. Code. 207 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,519 Speaker 2: He must have wowed them to get playing time like 208 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,799 this and be a starter. In practice, he must have 209 00:11:24,919 --> 00:11:27,320 done stuff. He must have been hitting everything, making all 210 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,240 the right place. He's not making mistakes out there, really, like, 211 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,279 I don't know. This has been a revelation. This is 212 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:39,320 this is really encouraging. Yeah, I uh, glad we start 213 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:40,039 with the positive. 214 00:11:40,879 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: It's pretty much all positives. There's only one and a 215 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:46,360 half negative things. 216 00:11:46,399 --> 00:11:49,759 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about only ten negative things. That ten losses. 217 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,399 Speaker 1: Yet, Yeah, we're gonna pick each thing for every loss. 218 00:11:52,840 --> 00:12:03,960 Another positive thing. I said. Maybe this isn't all right. 219 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 2: Check, we're gonna need you. You got that one again. 220 00:12:07,879 --> 00:12:15,919 You're gonna have to translate robot breaking down. Oh you 221 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,200 know all of the internet issues. 222 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,799 Speaker 3: It's just too much positivity. It's breaking down the stream. 223 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,480 They want us to get negative on this. 224 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not recognizing a Clippers stream right now because 225 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,440 there's so much positive talk. It doesn't make sense. It's 226 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:28,480 making a malfunction. 227 00:12:28,799 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 3: They want to keep us down. But you know what 228 00:12:30,919 --> 00:12:31,960 we refuse. 229 00:12:33,639 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 2: This Clippers team four and ten so far, will I 230 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,879 do think we have to at some point maybe get 231 00:12:40,879 --> 00:12:45,240 into the negatives. They do at least look like they're 232 00:12:45,279 --> 00:12:48,480 playing much harder the last three games, like it is 233 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,279 more of a talent issue all of a sudden, which 234 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,519 is what you would expect with so many guys out 235 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,440 and not they're playing below their abilities like we saw 236 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,519 the first five six game games. 237 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 3: I mean, we. 238 00:13:06,759 --> 00:13:07,279 Speaker 2: Had to go. 239 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 3: I don't know that this is the real Chuck that's 240 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:12,120 still on the string. 241 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: Ask me a question only real Chuck would know. 242 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 3: I think though, like like you know, last season, even 243 00:13:20,519 --> 00:13:23,200 it's gonna be these early games when they were at 244 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,559 full talent and didn't have that sort of effort that 245 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,360 are really gonna bite them in the ass. I can 246 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,759 live with losing a bunch of close games and we're shorthanded, 247 00:13:30,759 --> 00:13:33,360 but the fight is still in there. And yeah, those 248 00:13:33,399 --> 00:13:35,799 are gonna be a coin flip. And as the under 249 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,879 talented team not you know, for lack of trying, you're 250 00:13:38,879 --> 00:13:41,039 gonna lose a lot of those games. And I think 251 00:13:41,039 --> 00:13:43,120 that that would be and and and that's gonna be fine. 252 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,679 I can live with that. Uh, It's just a bummer 253 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,799 that that they already dug themselves such a hole before 254 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:54,440 even getting to that that scenario, because you know, you 255 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,480 still got you still got a pretty long ways to 256 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,039 go to get into uh to get into the black there. 257 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you play five hundred ball from here out. We're 258 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,399 still six games under five hundred at the end of 259 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:06,840 the year. 260 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, the last two games aren't the ones weren't necessarily 261 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,480 blaming them for. It's games earlier in the season when 262 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:18,399 they had Kawhi in there literally game one, Oh, that 263 00:14:18,519 --> 00:14:20,960 was that's the only one blame for That was a 264 00:14:21,039 --> 00:14:21,840 sham mockery. 265 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: I think that was a good point kind of because 266 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,559 this was on the positives list on the breakdown. The 267 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,960 team is not quit on Tyler. 268 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so sick of people saying that. It's like, oh, 269 00:14:35,679 --> 00:14:38,320 they don't care they quit. It's like they were down 270 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,240 twenty four in Boston and kept playing. That was the 271 00:14:42,279 --> 00:14:45,240 time to quit and just get ready for the next game. Like, 272 00:14:45,399 --> 00:14:47,360 come on, if they was quitting, then we would have 273 00:14:47,399 --> 00:14:47,919 just seen it. 274 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's not even enough healthy guys like to quit, 275 00:14:52,759 --> 00:14:55,759 if that makes sense, Like everyone on the team needs 276 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:00,639 this in some other sense, or another, like, no one's 277 00:15:00,639 --> 00:15:02,399 gonna be like, oh, you were on that Clippers team 278 00:15:02,399 --> 00:15:05,320 that underachieved and you got a little extra playing time 279 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:10,240 and you quit on the coach. Very cool. That benefits 280 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,919 nobody on the team to quit. 281 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:22,159 Speaker 2: I would still. Defensively, it's been better the last three games. 282 00:15:22,159 --> 00:15:25,000 I think they're sixteenth defensively. 283 00:15:24,879 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 3: Let's go hell yeah, maybe. 284 00:15:29,159 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: It's still a far cry from where we were last season. 285 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,600 Now you lose DJ, and I'm thinking at the end 286 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,960 of that game yesterday where it wasn't just Maxie but 287 00:15:38,039 --> 00:15:41,639 it was Maxie and Grimes both super quick, It's like, man, 288 00:15:41,679 --> 00:15:43,879 if they had DJ and Done out there, that'd be 289 00:15:43,919 --> 00:15:47,720 real nice right now. So his Unfortunately, the loss of 290 00:15:47,799 --> 00:15:52,440 DJ was felt immediately, but I am at least happy 291 00:15:52,519 --> 00:15:56,720 that it's not a series, season ending, career changing type 292 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,840 of tear, which I thought it was at first. 293 00:15:58,879 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: Honestly, yeah, you were. 294 00:16:02,039 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: You were pretty relieved with that outcome in little in our. 295 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,559 Speaker 2: Group chat six weeks versus he's never the same players, 296 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:09,720 pretty big deal. 297 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how it looks like you said. 298 00:16:12,919 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: But not having him until after the All Star break is. 299 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,879 Speaker 2: Oh, no, it's it's bad. I'm just thinking long term 300 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,279 right now, because he still is under contract for another 301 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,759 year after this and he's twenty eight, and I just 302 00:16:25,799 --> 00:16:28,519 hate seeing a player get cut down right as he's 303 00:16:28,639 --> 00:16:30,799 maybe having the best start to a season by the way, 304 00:16:31,759 --> 00:16:33,320 Yeah he was, Yeah, he's. 305 00:16:33,159 --> 00:16:35,759 Speaker 1: Been, and his contract is Yeah, he's on ten. He's 306 00:16:35,799 --> 00:16:40,279 a guy who's going to outplay. It was the ten 307 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,080 million dollars a year that he's making right now. He 308 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:43,639 already was. 309 00:16:45,639 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: Like, let's say there is a sell off at some 310 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:53,320 point or they make some trades. That's a very valuable contract. 311 00:16:53,399 --> 00:16:55,240 I'm not saying I want DJ off the team or 312 00:16:55,279 --> 00:16:57,759 anything like that, but you have to start thinking about 313 00:16:57,799 --> 00:16:58,840 these things a little bit. 314 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: Do we think they make a trade though? 315 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: Well not yet, but yeah, okay, double the record. If 316 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,319 they're eight and twenty. 317 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,319 Speaker 1: What's a trade? Yeah, I mean I get, but it's like, 318 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:14,200 what is a trade? 319 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 3: Twenty losses before? 320 00:17:16,839 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: Terrible? 321 00:17:17,839 --> 00:17:21,599 Speaker 3: But what I don't think you're there's no coming back 322 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:21,920 from that. 323 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:24,839 Speaker 1: Oh I'm not. I'm the next segment we're going to 324 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,440 talk about how all we should focus on is the 325 00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:29,319 NBA Cup as the season being a success. But so 326 00:17:29,519 --> 00:17:31,359 like I'm not under any impressure. We're going to be 327 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,440 like a four seed. But what is this roster getting you? 328 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 2: I think the only way You're right because so many 329 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,319 people are like, why are we trading these guys for 330 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,400 picks and and younger players? Well, the problem could still 331 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,119 be you have to match salary. So if you're trading 332 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,200 James Harden, let's say, what does he make forty million? Sure, 333 00:17:52,279 --> 00:17:55,279 even if you're getting a late first round pick that's 334 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,400 projected that way, if they give you back a guy 335 00:17:59,519 --> 00:18:02,519 who has as two or three years on his contract, 336 00:18:02,599 --> 00:18:06,039 let's say three, so it takes them past the twenty 337 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,240 twenty seventh summer, that's not a good contract for you. Yeah, 338 00:18:10,279 --> 00:18:14,279 Like because you want money available in twenty twenty seven. 339 00:18:14,599 --> 00:18:17,279 Speaker 3: Is a perfect fit, which I'm sure we'll talk about later. 340 00:18:18,519 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 2: Right now, it's a second right, that's a full second 341 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:23,160 could fit. 342 00:18:24,039 --> 00:18:25,799 Speaker 1: But so that's my thing with the trade thing, Like 343 00:18:25,839 --> 00:18:30,359 it's like we get the highest thing this team could get. 344 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,359 I think is a low first round pick for James Harden. 345 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we even But before we discuss that, have 346 00:18:37,759 --> 00:18:41,079 we praised James Harden on this on this podcast, we 347 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,240 have that. I don't think we've even done that, and 348 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,599 I don't think we can really discuss the trade before 349 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:46,000 doing that. 350 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: Is it even Tyler who keeps being like, it's my fault. 351 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,119 We got to get him some help. I'm like, is 352 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,079 there a help for him? He is like he is 353 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,400 carrying the whole franchise right now. He has the weight 354 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,759 of a new arena on his should I feel like 355 00:19:00,799 --> 00:19:03,359 it's not just like, oh, well, the team is doing 356 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,400 in the standings like this is keeping me. 357 00:19:06,599 --> 00:19:09,079 Speaker 3: Man, if we never would have gotten fucking stupid Paul 358 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,440 George and gotten James Harden instead, can you imagine this team? 359 00:19:13,759 --> 00:19:15,119 Can you imagine? 360 00:19:15,599 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 2: No? 361 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,759 Speaker 1: And you shouldn't because that will only make you upset, 362 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:23,359 never gets hurt. Yeah, yep, that's what happens. 363 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 3: Everyone goes back to back to back since the ninety 364 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,119 eight Bulls. 365 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: That is exactly what would happened. 366 00:19:32,519 --> 00:19:36,039 Speaker 2: I yeah, I can't believe there are some people that 367 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,920 have such an agenda out there that they still elect 368 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:44,720 to blame James Harden or act like this. I could 369 00:19:44,759 --> 00:19:48,720 name some names. I'm not gonna do it. Uh, there 370 00:19:48,799 --> 00:19:50,440 are real people out there. 371 00:19:50,839 --> 00:19:53,519 Speaker 1: The receipts for that sale, I see. 372 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just the season, guys. This is well. There 373 00:19:58,079 --> 00:20:00,599 will be a lot of receipts being you after some 374 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,920 bad gifts. Big up for Christmas. I'm trying to I'm 375 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,279 trying to be on the nice list. 376 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 3: So I'm not going to even January. You don't have 377 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,839 to be in new You yet get back to your 378 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:12,559 old wage. 379 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: You haven't even purchased a truck on what is? When 380 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,039 the time to buy a car? New Year's did what was. 381 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: For the people who have an agenda, either because they 382 00:20:24,039 --> 00:20:28,160 took Russ over James Harden or because they just think 383 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,519 James Harden plays too much ISO ball, like they have 384 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,720 better options right now for running the option, Like there's 385 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,440 sixteen points better per one hundred possessions when he's on 386 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,720 the floor on offense that without him, like it's insane. 387 00:20:43,559 --> 00:20:47,279 Uh I yeah, I can't believe that. But James Harden, 388 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,519 it's so unfortunate he can get a chance to win 389 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,359 that game at the charity stripe because that might have 390 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,720 solidified it for some people or brought a little bit 391 00:20:57,759 --> 00:21:00,759 more positive attention to what he's been able to do 392 00:21:00,839 --> 00:21:02,880 it even though the Clippers are struggling right now. 393 00:21:03,759 --> 00:21:05,599 Speaker 1: And to that point, with how valuable he is for 394 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:10,039 the Clippers, I guess if we were eight and twenty 395 00:21:10,279 --> 00:21:14,160 they would maybe consider trading James Harden, but like they 396 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,279 had again, there's no reason. I don't think there's a 397 00:21:17,319 --> 00:21:19,119 trade for James Harden that the Clippers would in. 398 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: I mean, here's here's the other thing too, and we 399 00:21:21,799 --> 00:21:26,279 kind of started the conversation here, but like, you're not 400 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,119 getting James Harden as a rebuilding team. So you're talking 401 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,440 about you're trading James Harden. Let's say you get two 402 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,880 first round picks, which I think is probably even far fetched, 403 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,480 like you're talking about you're talking about to a contender. 404 00:21:40,519 --> 00:21:43,400 You're talking about late first round picks, and like sure, 405 00:21:43,559 --> 00:21:45,519 maybe you could bundle them up to get one better 406 00:21:45,599 --> 00:21:49,079 one or something, but like, it's not it's not life changing. 407 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,119 You're not you know, you're not getting the go You're 408 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,039 not getting the Rudi Goober deal here or something. 409 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, the only way I would entertain it for him 410 00:21:58,319 --> 00:22:00,160 or Kawhi or any of the guys that people will 411 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,559 bring up all the time. If you're going to have 412 00:22:01,599 --> 00:22:04,160 a sell off is if you're getting at least a 413 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,440 late first round pick and a contract that isn't going 414 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,359 to limit you in either summer twenty twenty six or 415 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,039 summer twenty twenty seven. If you're getting back contracts that 416 00:22:16,079 --> 00:22:18,720 line up with how the Clippers already have their contracts 417 00:22:18,759 --> 00:22:20,480 that are on the books right now, or if you 418 00:22:20,559 --> 00:22:23,359 look at their payroll, it's like, oh, they have a plan. 419 00:22:23,599 --> 00:22:25,960 They are obviously getting ready for the next two. 420 00:22:25,839 --> 00:22:27,079 Speaker 1: Second line right here. 421 00:22:27,599 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 2: If you get back contracts that aren't back contracts. 422 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 3: A late first round pick, a serviceable player, and twenty 423 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,799 plus million dollars in financial flexibility, like that is a 424 00:22:39,039 --> 00:22:41,279 sweet heart of a deal, Like I just I don't 425 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:41,920 know that they're not. 426 00:22:42,759 --> 00:22:45,839 Speaker 2: I'm not saying they get more financial flexibility. I'm just 427 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,279 saying it's it's contract two year contracts versus the ones 428 00:22:50,319 --> 00:22:50,559 they have. 429 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:51,839 Speaker 1: Now, I see what you mean. 430 00:22:52,319 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: As long as it doesn't hurt their plans for the future, 431 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,920 I'm fine with it. If things really go off the 432 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,559 rails here, yeah, but we'll see. 433 00:23:01,039 --> 00:23:03,799 Speaker 1: And then everybody else who's and then like so, like 434 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,200 you look at James Harden other than Zoo, the most 435 00:23:07,279 --> 00:23:11,359 valuable trade piece the Clippers have, which I don't think 436 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,400 that would happen. Well, well, he is the fourth best 437 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,119 player on the team. 438 00:23:15,279 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 3: But uh, to some. 439 00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: To the head coach. 440 00:23:21,279 --> 00:23:23,599 Speaker 2: Coach Lou could have been talking about on the offensive 441 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,480 side of the ball. He really could have been. 442 00:23:26,759 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: I'd still put Zoo third. 443 00:23:29,079 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 2: No, no, no, But he's talking about game planning and who's 444 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,599 gonna have the ball in their hands? Like I could 445 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,720 see how you would think that's a guard and not 446 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,200 a center. Okay, Like you have to worry more about run, 447 00:23:39,759 --> 00:23:42,039 Like when you're aligning your offense, you're not as worried 448 00:23:42,039 --> 00:23:43,440 about the center position. 449 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,279 Speaker 1: It's because they don't let Zoo handle the ball and 450 00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:48,440 shoot threes. Another thing we can talk now, I'm just kidding. 451 00:23:48,759 --> 00:23:53,519 I have not gotten that crazy. But okay, So after 452 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:59,480 Zoo and Harden second round picks, like, for what is 453 00:23:59,519 --> 00:24:02,759 on the ross? Like what would this team get with 454 00:24:02,839 --> 00:24:03,920 a fire sale? 455 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 2: You mean, what do they trade outside of James? And 456 00:24:08,519 --> 00:24:10,720 let's say you get past that, you've got a couple 457 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,440 of late first round picks, then what else? 458 00:24:12,559 --> 00:24:14,839 Speaker 1: What is the rest of this fire sale for all 459 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,680 of these players that every other team wants so badly? 460 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:17,960 From that? 461 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 3: And I think if DJ that's that, you know, that's interesting. 462 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,880 You could offload some salary with that. 463 00:24:26,039 --> 00:24:27,839 Speaker 1: He makes ten million dollars a year there. 464 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 3: I know, but it's not that long of a contract, 465 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:32,160 so the team would have to be well and to 466 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,400 resign him, which I think most teams. 467 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,039 Speaker 1: Would be, right, So why not keep the guy who's cheap. 468 00:24:38,079 --> 00:24:40,640 He's again, he's only ten million year like for now. 469 00:24:40,839 --> 00:24:43,559 Speaker 2: But if you are an a total, if you're saying 470 00:24:43,599 --> 00:24:45,599 it's a totally lost season. 471 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: That's good, is what I'm saying. 472 00:24:49,039 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: I'm saying hypothetically. If you get to that point, let's 473 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,039 say we all agree, Okay, they're not going anywhere. It's over, not. 474 00:24:58,759 --> 00:25:00,519 Speaker 3: Be Are we saying eight and twenty or is it 475 00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:06,319 before that? Twenty losses before ten wins is absolutely it's 476 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,400 absolutely over. 477 00:25:08,519 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's eight and twenty and you still have 478 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,400 like significant injuries going on, or there's another bat. 479 00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 3: Healthy, even if you're fully health healthy, it'd be worse 480 00:25:17,519 --> 00:25:20,880 if Brad deal re it somehow re enters the lineup. 481 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,119 But we're eight and twenty eight. Guys should be able 482 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,480 to wear jeans on the court if they want, well. 483 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: That is one thing I will say Coach lew has 484 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,079 slipped on is letting the guys wear gene. 485 00:25:32,319 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 3: The fellas have been clamor into hook and jeans. 486 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:36,519 Speaker 1: Sorry, Adam. 487 00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: To your point, if a contender comes along and you're 488 00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:43,160 near the trade deadline. Let's put it near the trade deadline, 489 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,440 whatever record it is at that point around there where 490 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,880 you're like, there's no coming back. 491 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: Eight and thirty six or whatever it would be. 492 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 3: So do you think it's howe and that trade deadline? 493 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:58,599 Speaker 1: Do you think. 494 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 2: I don't know how many games? I mean, you're seventy 495 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,799 percent of the season in at the trade deadline. 496 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:10,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, so if you're three games five hundred. 497 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,519 Speaker 2: And I mean, you gotta see the standings. 498 00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:15,799 Speaker 1: But right, I think. 499 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 2: Who cares. The point is we all agree at that 500 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,119 time it's cooked. Whatever the record is to get us 501 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,519 to that point. Let's say we're there, right and a 502 00:26:29,599 --> 00:26:33,599 contender could come along that means point of attack, defense 503 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,839 that has seen DJ, that knows he's not a complete 504 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,519 rental because you got him next year too, they might 505 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:43,920 offer you something decent draft compensation wise. 506 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: He does, that's real injury on his resume now, which 507 00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:48,200 sucks that. 508 00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: But at that point we expect him to be back 509 00:26:51,319 --> 00:26:53,160 right around the trade deadline. 510 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,519 Speaker 3: This is assuming that he's back. 511 00:26:56,519 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's a trade deadline. 512 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,559 Speaker 1: And nothing else goes wrong. Why would you say we're 513 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:05,559 talking hypotheticals if it's the Clippers, something's going to go wrong. 514 00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 2: Well, I just think he could be a sought after player. 515 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,200 Chris Dunn might be a sought after a player with 516 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,279 how well he's played for the Clippers. Yeah, there are 517 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,839 guys that teams could be looking at that are trying 518 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,440 to strengthen themselves heading towards the playoffs that the Clippers 519 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,359 aren't heading that way. 520 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: I think don lines up contractually with what the Clippers 521 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,200 are trying to do. Though he's never going to make 522 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,839 a bunch of money, not that he shouldn't, but the 523 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,319 way the NBA struggles. 524 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 2: They both do. They both do technically. Yeah, but if 525 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:44,079 you're getting picks and another player that is not going 526 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,680 to hurt your ability to go after guys in twenty 527 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,559 six or twenty seven, I think. 528 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,799 Speaker 1: You're done with great. But I don't. I just don't 529 00:27:52,839 --> 00:27:56,480 know like the machinations of it. I'm not seeing a 530 00:27:56,519 --> 00:27:59,799 trade where because done and DJ's what fifteen million dollars. 531 00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:05,759 Speaker 2: I mean, there's there are people out there that make 532 00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:08,839 that much or individually make similar and they're giving a 533 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,279 draft pick. It could happen a first round for that. 534 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:12,759 Speaker 1: Sure. 535 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 2: I didn't say the first round, but see. 536 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: That's what gets me is then we're like so not 537 00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:20,960 to the point of being against the trade, but then 538 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,279 everyone who wants the trade to be like, we only 539 00:28:23,319 --> 00:28:26,279 got two really good seconds and it's like, what did 540 00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:29,920 you guys expect here? What did like, Like, well, it's 541 00:28:29,799 --> 00:28:34,319 not like changing, as Will said, Yeah, it's. 542 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: Not Kobe Sanders. We waited another nineteen years. 543 00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: Team Man was good for this team. 544 00:28:42,119 --> 00:28:45,359 Speaker 1: Toby's handers from a baby again as. 545 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 3: The team, you can't clone, and you can't clone an 546 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,039 adull Man. 547 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: Now with the updight cloning system, there's gotta be no 548 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:52,759 you can. 549 00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:54,599 Speaker 3: That's not how it works. 550 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: Dude, Ballmer will figure something out, man. 551 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,359 Speaker 2: But they could also they could wait till this summer, 552 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,200 like whatever they can reevaluate, then. 553 00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:06,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes like I think waiting till the summer 554 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:13,559 is the most likely outcome. Should they go four and 555 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:19,400 seventy eight or whatever we're predicting, I. 556 00:29:19,319 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: Don't expect them to be that bad with how they 557 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,799 played the last three games. If they can get Kawhi 558 00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:26,319 back and they continue to play this hard, they should 559 00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:26,759 be all right. 560 00:29:27,359 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: They should be all right. And I think that the 561 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,799 one trade that I'm incredibly against too, is the trade 562 00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:36,519 to like try and refortify, like where it's like, well, 563 00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:38,240 just try and make some trades to get better, and 564 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,799 it's like, well that's not out there. 565 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 2: That Anthony get Anthony Davis. Yeah, oh my god. 566 00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: Just what Clippers fans want. 567 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 3: One thing, and I do think this is a positive too, 568 00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:51,960 is like they have stayed pretty steadfast the front office 569 00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:54,960 in their long term vision and like we have seen 570 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,640 the front office do about faces before, but it doesn't 571 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,319 seem to be on this, like they are looking the 572 00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:02,319 long view of this, and so I do think that 573 00:30:02,319 --> 00:30:05,119 that is another positive that even if everything does go 574 00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:07,920 to crap, they're not gonna, like, they're not gonna be 575 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,079 cornered in a position where they're gonna try to like 576 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,319 do something crazy to salvage this season or something, because 577 00:30:13,319 --> 00:30:15,960 there's no pressure to like that. You know, they have 578 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,240 the long view insight. They're not and that's a positive. 579 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: Doom doom doo doo doo doo. Yeah, they're green day 580 00:30:24,279 --> 00:30:27,759 on keeping the long view. They are not going to 581 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,839 quadruple or whatever double down at this point in this era. Again, 582 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,599 I think this is the end, right. 583 00:30:35,759 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: They've been here, like we've seen and It's funny too, 584 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,799 because like you go all in and then what we're 585 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,000 still again, we're still clawing out of whatever mess was. 586 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,519 Speaker 2: Now, look, if they get a guy and it's a 587 00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:52,960 rental and it doesn't hurt anything, Okay, but that seems 588 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:53,960 pretty unrealistic. 589 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: That was kind of Bradley Beal too. 590 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if we give okay, see, a lottery pick 591 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,039 is over for the league. Anyways, who cares? 592 00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:03,559 Speaker 1: Yeah? 593 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: Damn, that was sobering. 594 00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that one just hit him pretty I was like, anyways, 595 00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:15,359 who cares? That's like a ball peen hammer just to 596 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:20,720 the center of my head. All right, anything. I wanted 597 00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:22,839 to talk about how maybe John's Collins has some room 598 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,279 to grow, but should we just save that for another time? Yeah, 599 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,759 he can get better to figure out he needs. 600 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,359 Speaker 2: He is pretty good against Boston. 601 00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, he just needs to not dribble and hit his threes. 602 00:31:40,519 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: I heard him in the starting lineup. Would save the season, 603 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:51,480 Hawts West, He's been worse. It's do something about him 604 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,359 not being up to speed with some things. 605 00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: Maybe. I also liked your point, Adam about how last 606 00:31:58,319 --> 00:32:00,759 year the credit was to van Go for how good 607 00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:04,119 the defense is, and this year the credit for how bad. 608 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,519 The defense is is on Tyler. 609 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,359 Speaker 2: It's amazing the mental gymnastics people will do the livvy duns. 610 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,680 They will attempt to do like it's it's insane to 611 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,640 be I can't believe people. That's they're just blinded by 612 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,640 hate at this point. They will find any reason to 613 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:22,960 try to blame coach lou. 614 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: There's a funny thing happening too with my Dolphins, who 615 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,920 are very bad. They are four and seven. Quin's unfortunately 616 00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:35,559 very similar record to the Clippers. Be Buffalo, but they 617 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,200 hell yeah, we did. But they in a game that 618 00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:42,880 they won, left some points on the board. They went 619 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,960 for the touchdown. A lot of people thought they should 620 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,319 have gone for the field goal. Regardless they ended up 621 00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:52,119 winning the game. The fan base is losing their minds 622 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,000 over this hypothetical that did not cost the game at all. 623 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,640 And it feels like that's the similar thing with like 624 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,920 the inger at Tyler about the defense. It's like, guys, 625 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,240 there's a lot wrong right now. 626 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 2: I would say that's not similar though. What they're doing 627 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,079 with coach who with the defense thing is just bullshit. 628 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,400 Things go well, we will credit Jeff Van Gundy for 629 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,480 the same thing that we will We will say it's 630 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,839 all Jeff Van Gundy when the defense is playing well, 631 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,400 and when it's not, we're gonna say, well, that's coach 632 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:28,200 lows influence. That makes zero sense to me, that with 633 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,240 like bad process stuff even in wins. Sure, yeah, but 634 00:33:33,319 --> 00:33:36,839 they're totally picking and choosing when to give credit on 635 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:37,400 this team. 636 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,799 Speaker 3: Margin and victory should be a tiebreaker in the standings. 637 00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:47,119 Speaker 1: It is for the EMS Cup, that's not unless you 638 00:33:47,119 --> 00:33:48,039 go to overtime like we did. 639 00:33:48,119 --> 00:33:49,759 Speaker 3: It should be a regular season. 640 00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:55,839 Speaker 1: All right, anything else before we get into this remaining 641 00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:04,759 roady outlook? No any five team trade machine screenshots. We 642 00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:06,519 want to share from some colleagues. 643 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: Hold on, let me text Joseph I. 644 00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:11,159 Speaker 1: Let men get Bill Simons all the night. All right, 645 00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:13,480 coming up. If you're watching us, we're gonna be right here. 646 00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:15,480 If you're listening to us, there's a quick audio break. 647 00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:18,960 We're gonna be talking the remaining roady outlook and then 648 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,880 to haggle. No haggle coming up after these messages and 649 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,840 three two. 650 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 3: One, all right, welcome back into Cliffs and Dip. We 651 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,239 talked about some positives. I know that's things look bleak 652 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,440 at times, but there are some positives going on However, 653 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,960 we got to look ahead to this remaining road trip. 654 00:34:36,519 --> 00:34:39,960 I got about four games left, got the Magic Hornets 655 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,159 calves back to back and then to the Lakers. Which 656 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,039 is it a home game? Is it away game? Who 657 00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:48,639 really knows? But update on the road to you. What 658 00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:50,239 are we now? One in two? 659 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're one and two. We lost a back to 660 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,280 back by six points over forty eight hours. 661 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 3: Still in play Ada. 662 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: Would you say two and one? 663 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,039 Speaker 2: Well, the NBA basically said they're two and one. They 664 00:35:11,079 --> 00:35:11,719 blew the car. 665 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,119 Speaker 1: Very true. That is a very good point. 666 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,679 Speaker 2: They hit all three free throws and there was time remaining. 667 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,960 But yeah, that. 668 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 3: Should be a tie breaker in the standings too, if 669 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,239 you have the same record as another team. But the 670 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,280 two minute report did rule that you should have won 671 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,079 a game. Sorry you won. 672 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: Lord, help the poor people who have to work customer 673 00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:38,280 service for betting companies once the last two minute report 674 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,199 comes out. That has to make their lives a living hell. 675 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,199 Speaker 3: Right like another reason though that there does need to 676 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,039 be accountability. 677 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, very true. Pissed Yellow Jersey I said earlier, the Magic, 678 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,559 I mean the Clippers will have some rest. 679 00:35:57,559 --> 00:36:02,159 Speaker 2: They got rest advantage by day. The Magic are currently 680 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,480 up by twelve with four and a half minutes left 681 00:36:04,599 --> 00:36:08,000 on Golden State at home, which I would prefer win 682 00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:10,840 this game. Feel good about yourself. Maybe have a letdown 683 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:11,679 against the Clippers. 684 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let yourself be lulled asleep by the Clippers 685 00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:21,159 and then it's a Hornets Calves back to back. Do 686 00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:23,480 you think Kawhi plays any of these games? We've only 687 00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:24,760 kind of talked about that. 688 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,599 Speaker 2: I had to guess, I would say yes. I think 689 00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:32,440 he ends up playing a game before the road trip 690 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:32,760 is over. 691 00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: It's probably one of the back to back ones. Does 692 00:36:38,519 --> 00:36:41,679 that count if it's the Lakers? Does that statement hold 693 00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:42,840 true If it's the Laker. 694 00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 2: That's a road game? 695 00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:52,159 Speaker 1: League Gameki, Yeah, I think the game out of this 696 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,280 last four that I care about the most is the 697 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,880 Lakers game because it's the NBA Cup. 698 00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:02,079 Speaker 2: Care about the most, but not because of the Cup. 699 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,159 Speaker 1: Well, haggle, no haggle. Adam Will and I talked about 700 00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:07,559 this on the stream a little bit. Let's just go 701 00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,599 out all out for the NBA Cup. Yes, we should 702 00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:12,719 try and win as many games as possible, but this 703 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,960 is the most important part of the season. The Man's LARRYO, 704 00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:20,280 the thinking Man's championship. There's point differential. How does that 705 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,719 even work? Uh, you really gotta think to win the 706 00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:24,760 NBA Cup. 707 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 2: Haggle, no haggle, hard haggle. There's a lot of things 708 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,280 capital h that I like about the modern NBA and 709 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,400 some of the stuff that Adam Silver has done. I 710 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,440 think the playing is interesting and leads to more intrigue 711 00:37:40,639 --> 00:37:43,039 and hopefully less tanking at the end of the year. 712 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,000 I'm not on board with the Cup so far, only 713 00:37:46,039 --> 00:37:51,039 because for teams like the Clippers specifically, nothing good happens 714 00:37:51,079 --> 00:37:52,840 for you if you win the Cup. They just say, oh, 715 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,519 they're gonna Cup, but they never win. Lario b like, 716 00:37:55,559 --> 00:37:56,840 you just get made fun of. 717 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: More Kobe, ain't it. 718 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 2: I will hype it up and act like I didn't 719 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,960 say this, but I know the outcome of them winning 720 00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:12,960 this tournament, and it's just everybody making fun of them 721 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,280 for having not won a championship before a real championship. 722 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,960 I mean, they made fun of the Lakers for winning it, 723 00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:22,079 and Lebron like sprng champagne the locker room. It did 724 00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:23,079 look kind of silly. 725 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take it. 726 00:38:26,159 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 2: Do you think they're going to do the Clippers? 727 00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: I don't care they do it anyway. They clowned on 728 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,000 us when we got the newest arena in sports. 729 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,199 Speaker 2: But if you get a real ring, I know they 730 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,599 would shift too. Well, get on our level. If you're 731 00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:42,599 a Lakers fins, you still got your sixteen or seventeen. 732 00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:46,840 They pushed the goalpost, but this would. 733 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: Be chance to win a ring this year. I'm not 734 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,559 saying fore go this very good chance at winning the LARRYO. 735 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:53,639 B that they have. 736 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 2: You're not, I know, I'm not. I'm not into the 737 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,679 cup thing, and I just the cup play. I like, 738 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,880 I like the courts, but I don't know what it 739 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,639 means to win it. I don't. I don't see the significance. 740 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,280 And I just see another angle to make fun of. Like, yes, 741 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,920 they do it anyways, they will do it even more 742 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,880 and I would like less of it. But also it 743 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,199 doesn't even count for a game. You don't get the 744 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:29,599 win the last. They really need to change. They really 745 00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:31,000 need to change the reward. 746 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 1: It should And like the stats don't existing stats. 747 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 2: You know these stats don't exist either. Really, they don't 748 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,079 add to your regular season total. They stay there. 749 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,079 Speaker 1: They're gonna hose Kobe Sanders on this hundred point game, right, 750 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,320 maybe I am, And no I'm not. We gotta lock 751 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,480 in SUPs quick, that's real quick. I looked, I said, 752 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,000 in are we only we're in second too? 753 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 3: Cup season eighty. 754 00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: It's Cup season, dude, we are. We're in second in 755 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,440 West Group B. Man. If we get to win over 756 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,159 the Lakers, we are, We're right there, dude. 757 00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:17,639 Speaker 2: See, I just want to beat the Lakers period. 758 00:40:18,039 --> 00:40:21,280 Speaker 1: I would love that Lebron will be back. 759 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,639 Speaker 2: Probably it's back to night. 760 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:29,039 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's Sciattica. They can flare up the Silent Killer, 761 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:37,559 the White Death. Uh yeah. So we're one and two 762 00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:41,440 on the road trip. Four more games were predictions. Again, 763 00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:47,199 we predicted, like I think, two and five. We're one 764 00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:53,719 and two. Were certainly you were more pessimistic actually from 765 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,559 what I remember correctly than Will or I think. 766 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 3: But I said three and four three was the best 767 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:00,639 thing possibly do. 768 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so we're at three and four territory. We're 769 00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:15,480 right there, we're halfway to four. Looking at the schedule, magic, 770 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,079 we're splitting that back to back and we beat the Lakers, 771 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,079 We're right there. 772 00:41:21,519 --> 00:41:23,039 Speaker 2: Does it have to be a split on the back 773 00:41:23,039 --> 00:41:23,400 to back? 774 00:41:24,639 --> 00:41:26,599 Speaker 1: No, But I'm using a little bit of my brain 775 00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:30,800 for that. They just lost the back to back by 776 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,440 six combined points, so I don't feel great about them 777 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:33,840 right now. 778 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 2: Oh wait, the Cavaliers are on the second time. 779 00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:41,599 Speaker 1: It's like Hornets Calves. It cannot be a. 780 00:41:41,559 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 2: Big early Let's let's say, yeah, Kawhi doesn't play against 781 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,840 the Hornets, you still find a way. And then he 782 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:55,280 returned for the Calves and you're within a few points. 783 00:41:57,119 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 1: And then that last two minute report maybe means a 784 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:06,360 little so okay, so we're feeling pretty good standings wise 785 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:13,079 or not, we're feeling pretty good. Uh, standings wise. Some 786 00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:15,320 of the math is unkind to the Clippers. When you 787 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:24,079 look at the loss column, I don't know encouraging losses. 788 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,280 Speaker 2: It's only encouraging because they played so poorly. Like they 789 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,199 lost and they didn't play well. Now they're turning the corner. 790 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,960 They're getting closer to victories. They're playing like the team 791 00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:41,480 we saw at times last year, but they're just coming 792 00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:46,440 up short because they don't have the talent they need. Yeah, 793 00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:48,199 I think they screwed on a call. 794 00:42:48,599 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: Will you froze? Also, if you can still. 795 00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 2: Hear us, my guy hasn't moved in forty minutes. She 796 00:42:57,119 --> 00:42:57,960 talked to that girl. 797 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,199 Speaker 1: They're getting screwed on a call. They missed a couple 798 00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:05,199 of buzzer beaters. I don't know, man, it's it is 799 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,440 tough right now, Well tough right now. 800 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 2: I really should have got one of the last two that. 801 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: He should have got. 802 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, real, coach lou looked about as down as I've 803 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,760 seen him posting him during a regular season. 804 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 1: He should be throwing things though, he should care more 805 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:22,800 at him. 806 00:43:23,079 --> 00:43:23,599 Speaker 2: That's right. 807 00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:26,280 Speaker 1: Well, we were talking, well, we were talking about how 808 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,639 it's kind of bleak right now. Do you have anything 809 00:43:27,679 --> 00:43:31,079 to add to that before we get out of here. 810 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 3: Could be worse, It could be worse. 811 00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:39,280 Speaker 1: Could be owned fourteen honestly if you look at how 812 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:46,559 they played. But you know what, the second place in 813 00:43:46,599 --> 00:43:52,119 their NBA Cup group, Thank you balloons. If you're not listen, 814 00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:53,800 if you're not watching us, he's missed the balloons. 815 00:43:55,119 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 2: I also get annoyed because they hype the NBA Cup. 816 00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:01,519 They literally piped it up more last year than the 817 00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:04,360 NBA Finals with all the signage, with the way the 818 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,880 court was, that was ridiculous. Now they've realized the air 819 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,079 of their ways because everybody called him out on Twitter. 820 00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:14,440 I literally posted the side by side about the Cup 821 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,679 final looked compared to the NBA finals. 822 00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:24,320 Speaker 1: That's kind of shitty. Yeah, your guy Adam Sober liked things. 823 00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I like what he did in his 824 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:29,320 first six months. 825 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a tough decision to make. He really 826 00:44:34,159 --> 00:44:34,719 figured that. 827 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,679 Speaker 2: One out Farbod was way off on that one when 828 00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:39,280 he was arguing with people on Twitter. 829 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: So I miss that. 830 00:44:41,519 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 2: This was like a month ago he was talking about, Uh, 831 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,960 the decision he has, He's like this was. He had 832 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,159 a way tougher decision than he has whether the Clippers 833 00:44:54,159 --> 00:44:56,840 are going to get suspended or whatever with what's happening 834 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,880 with the pabulatory investigations. Like, no, that was a pret 835 00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:05,320 easy to say. Everybody was on one side of that one. 836 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:11,639 We who is the disappointing to demand Donald Sterling? Donald Sterling, 837 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:17,199 surely nobody else. Yeah, nobody else cared. That was the 838 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,320 easiest decision to make. 839 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:23,280 Speaker 1: All right, everyone take a palate cleanser. After that, We're 840 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,440 gonna do a happy Hour stream on Friday at six, 841 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,719 which should be fun confined as at YouTube dot com. 842 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,760 Just at Clippers Podcast full episode on Monday, and then 843 00:45:34,039 --> 00:45:39,280 because of the Turkey specific holiday, on Thursday, we might 844 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,360 be out for a little bit. We also might be 845 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,519 out on Monday TVD we'll talk about how the Clippers 846 00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:48,280 turn this road trip around someway or another. Well, where 847 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,639 can these people review our pot Yeah. 848 00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 3: You can review us over on Apple Podcasts or Spotify 849 00:45:56,639 --> 00:45:59,760 to left a little rating can help us out. You 850 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,960 can listen to this show wherever you get your podcast. 851 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,679 We can also comment on YouTube, subscribe over YouTube dot 852 00:46:05,679 --> 00:46:08,519 com slash at Clippers podcast. But whoever you listen, wherever 853 00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:10,239 you watch, you know we appreciate it. 854 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:16,519 Speaker 1: You know we do an Adam Osland nationally syndicated broadcaster. 855 00:46:16,639 --> 00:46:18,239 But I think this is probably the hardest part of 856 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,239 any of the jobs you have. Currently. We need one 857 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:22,760 positive thing for Clippers fans. 858 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,280 Speaker 2: I'm saying something because I did four hours slow solo 859 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:33,039 there night for Fox. Uh Man, No, what deep Daddy, 860 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,159 I do see flashes of last year's Clippers over the 861 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:41,079 last three games. I do, honestly, uh still a net 862 00:46:41,159 --> 00:46:45,920 rating of seventeen the last three games. But they are battling, 863 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,079 they are they are playing hard and Kobe Sanders obviously 864 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,599 that's a huge, huge show for Lining going on right now. 865 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,719 Huge bright spot the future is bright. We've seen them 866 00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:01,440 for three games and he's, uh yeah, here's here's another 867 00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:05,400 plot twist. Who Shue will never play the young guys 868 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,760 hate al the young guys. It's like, well, Kobe Sanders 869 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,079 is starting like he didn't have to start. He could 870 00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:14,239 start with Toomb, he could have played somebody else like 871 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:21,639 he's been playing Cam before. It was cool. I think 872 00:47:21,679 --> 00:47:24,360 this team is still desperately trying to win the last 873 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,800 three games. That's what I saw out there. They came 874 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,880 off short and two of them should only been one. 875 00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:33,079 But I can. I can. I can get behind a 876 00:47:33,079 --> 00:47:36,440 team that plays as hard as they can and leaves 877 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,480 everything out there. That's what I need to see. 878 00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:42,079 Speaker 1: There we go perfect. Let's hope we see it. You know, 879 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,679 Ken Slicker's in the NBA Cup. All right, We will 880 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,159 be back with y'all in a couple days. Thank you 881 00:47:48,199 --> 00:47:51,480 for hanging out. I have been Chuck Buckler and as always, 882 00:47:51,639 --> 00:47:52,360 let's go Clips.