WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.880 --> 00:00:04.759 You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM 2 00:00:04.799 --> 00:00:06.160 six forty k. 3 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:08.679 I AM six forty Bill Handle. Here. 4 00:00:08.800 --> 00:00:13.439 It is a Tuesday morning, December tenth, and Southern California 5 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:18.519 fire season is here. No surprise, major fire going on 6 00:00:18.679 --> 00:00:23.000 right now in Malibu. Up to this point, eighteen hundred 7 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:25.480 acres that has been reported. We're going to get a 8 00:00:25.559 --> 00:00:28.519 press conference from the fire department coming up at eight. 9 00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:30.920 We'll get an update on the fire. Now, when you 10 00:00:30.920 --> 00:00:31.239 think of. 11 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:35.079 Eighteen hundred acres, it's not a huge deal unless it's 12 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:40.079 in an area that is particularly dense, although Malibu is not. 13 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:44.679 But it's Malibu, and it's the homes are astronomically priced. 14 00:00:44.799 --> 00:00:49.320 Malibu has gone through several of these. So we're going 15 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:51.880 to have Chuck Lovers coming in at seven thirty. Chuck 16 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:54.200 is a friend of mine who was with La County 17 00:00:54.200 --> 00:00:59.679 Fire for thirty years and this is his wheelhouse, this 18 00:00:59.759 --> 00:01:03.840 is what he did for thirty years. And then Michael Monks, 19 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:07.560 KFI reporter. He's coming in at seven twenty. So as 20 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:10.560 of right now, Amy, I'm going to throw it to 21 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:15.959 you and talk about evacuations and the various centers where 22 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:16.560 people can go. 23 00:01:16.599 --> 00:01:17.439 Red Cross centers. 24 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:20.879 Okay, so we've got the evacuations in place for east 25 00:01:20.879 --> 00:01:23.640 of Las Virgins, between Maulholland Highway to the north and 26 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:27.120 Pyuma Road to the south, between Stunt Road to the 27 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:30.120 north and Los Florists to the south, east of Carbon 28 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:33.040 Beach Terrace, west of Old Malibu Road, north of Pacific 29 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:38.079 Coast Highway, and then Malibu Canyon Road from Payuma Road 30 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:42.000 to Pacific Coast Highway. A shelter set up at Palisades 31 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:45.599 Recreation Center that's at eight five to one Alma Real 32 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:48.920 Drive in Pacific Palisades. And then if you've got animals 33 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:51.959 that need to be taken to shelters, they are open 34 00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:55.079 at Agora Animal Care Center in Agora Hills and also 35 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:59.000 Pierce College in Woodland Hills. About two thousand are under 36 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:02.560 mandatory EVACUS orders at this point. Also, the students and 37 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:05.599 staff at Pepperdine were not evacuated. They were told to 38 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:08.960 shelter in place. They've moved to the middle of campus 39 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:12.080 and have been hanging out in the library overnight. The 40 00:02:12.759 --> 00:02:14.919 officials have said this is the safest place for you 41 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:18.039 to be. Classes have been canceled for today, finals canceled 42 00:02:18.039 --> 00:02:23.039 for tomorrow, and Also, all schools in Malibu are closed 43 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:24.280 today because of the fire. 44 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:28.919 We had the director of communications for Pepperdine earlier this morning, 45 00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:31.599 Mike Friele, and he talked about the campus. If you've 46 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:35.000 ever been to Pepperdine, it is the most beautiful campus 47 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:39.199 in the world. It overlooks Malibu and it's just absolutely gorgeous. 48 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:41.120 And is surrounded behind it. 49 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:45.400 In front is this huge expanse of lawn which clearly 50 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:48.120 is not going to burn, but it is surrounded. And 51 00:02:48.159 --> 00:02:54.120 Mike was saying that Pepperdine was built with fires in mind, 52 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:57.599 that it is the safest place to be if you 53 00:02:57.639 --> 00:03:00.199 are going to be near a fire. 54 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:04.879 Also, I've been going through social media and hours ago 55 00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:09.240 when the fire came just kissing Pepperdine, as you said, 56 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:12.439 they were sheltering in place. They have these They're in 57 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:15.280 the kind of the center of the campus, but they 58 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:18.840 have these massive windows where they are sheltering in place. 59 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:23.319 The videos that were taken by students in there on 60 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:26.240 their phones that they're posting on social media are insane. 61 00:03:26.680 --> 00:03:30.080 It looks like the fire was surrounding them at that time. 62 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:33.560 Thankfully at this point it's moved away. But those photos 63 00:03:33.599 --> 00:03:36.800 that they've taken and posted many of them to social 64 00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:40.439 media were just walls of orange and yellow. 65 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:44.759 We have some lines open, by the way, and we 66 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:48.439 are going to be taking in calls. If you are 67 00:03:48.520 --> 00:03:51.680 in a particular place or a place where something different 68 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:55.120 is happening, we'd love to have you call in because 69 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:57.960 now you become reporters out there, and the numbers eight 70 00:03:58.039 --> 00:04:00.840 hundred and five two zero one five three four, eight 71 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:03.800 hundred and five to zero one five three four, And 72 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:07.120 unless you sound like a complete imbecile and a moron, 73 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:10.319 there's a good chance that we're gonna put you on 74 00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:11.400 to give us some insight. 75 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:13.199 Also, you can go to. 76 00:04:13.120 --> 00:04:17.959 The iHeart app the KFI page microphone in the upper 77 00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:21.160 right hand corner, and you can leave a message as 78 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:24.720 to particularly if you're running out the front door and 79 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:28.199 your butt is on fire, that would you know? 80 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:29.759 That would give us some insight that we. 81 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:33.079 Don't have a little bit later on, Chuck Lovers is 82 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:36.319 going to join us LA Fire, La County Fire for 83 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:41.279 thirty years. We've got so much going on, And the 84 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:43.759 mike was saying, no, it was you Amy that was saying. 85 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:48.079 The Red Cross is already out there in force, and 86 00:04:49.079 --> 00:04:51.800 let's see if we can get some somebody from the 87 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:54.399 Red Cross to report to us and tell us what 88 00:04:54.959 --> 00:04:59.720 they did and what's going on, because Michael or yeah, 89 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:02.040 Mike A. Monks said he was at one of these 90 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:04.600 evacuation centers and no one was showing. 91 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:07.319 Up and they said there was like twelve cars there. 92 00:05:07.399 --> 00:05:10.480 Yeah, it was like nobody and they were eating all 93 00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:17.560 the snacks. So if you're interested in free snacks, just 94 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:21.839 to go to the Malibu Evacuation Center and it's like 95 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:26.480 unlimited Cheetos and coind bars and you know, you. 96 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:28.920 Can have a little bit of breakfast on the Red 97 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:34.480 Cross Bill. Yes, Amy has updated the acreage on. 98 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:37.879 That, okay, Amy, Yeah, it's just up to twenty two 99 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:38.879 hundred acres. 100 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:42.600 Okay, so it has well, I guess good news, and 101 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:46.000 it has only increased four hundred acres from five am 102 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:49.600 this morning because it was moving very very quickly. The 103 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:55.079 problem is that the winds are now going to hit 104 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:58.279 and between I guess now in nine point thirty they 105 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:03.079 expect the major gusts. That's it's gonna be tough. 106 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:05.199 Homes on fire. We don't know how many. 107 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:09.639 This is very high end stuff. And then before we 108 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:12.920 get to Michael maybe I'll do that a little bit 109 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:17.120 later on. And that is how many homes are not 110 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:22.959 insured because in fire areas you can't get insurance, and 111 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:25.839 so you have homes and the tens of millions of 112 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:30.120 dollars up in that area and the owners are self insuring. 113 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:35.240 That's just another way for saying no insurance or the 114 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:39.079 California Fair Plan, which pays you well relative to the 115 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:42.600 cost of these homes, virtually nothing. Michael Monks KFI reporter 116 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:46.839 moving around the various fire sits. He's at PCH now 117 00:06:47.480 --> 00:06:49.759 next to the fire. Michael, what's the latest. 118 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:54.079 I'm on PCH and it's a rare opportunity to get 119 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:57.360 the chance to drive on this iconic road with no 120 00:06:57.519 --> 00:07:01.079 other cars around now the Sheriff's office allowing us to 121 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:03.600 go by because we're members of the media, and that 122 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:06.319 was quite surreal. And I don't know if you can 123 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:08.639 hear I'm gonna hold the mic up. 124 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:10.199 Yeah, we can hear it. 125 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:13.120 You got the chopper and this is one of those 126 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:16.000 big choppers with the double propellers on top. And I've 127 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:19.240 seen several of these go past, or maybe a couple 128 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:22.519 of them the same vehicle. Not sure, but to go 129 00:07:22.600 --> 00:07:25.480 address this fire, they are finally able to attack it 130 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:27.839 from the air, and maybe that's one of the reasons 131 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:30.519 that spread has not been as fast as it was 132 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:35.199 this morning. Man, it took off really crazily this morning. 133 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:38.240 Amy came in very early and she noted what the 134 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:40.519 acreage was at that time compared to what it was 135 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:42.839 by even five point thirty six o'clock. It was just 136 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:46.079 spreading exponentially fast, and that forced a lot of people 137 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:47.920 out of their homes. And what I think I might 138 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:51.399 be seeing on PCH are a lot of vehicles that 139 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:55.199 are parked, maybe of residents who just came down this 140 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:58.639 way to get away rather than going to an evacuation center, 141 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:01.519 posting up on the side of the ocean for a 142 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:04.959 little while until things get figured out. Because there were 143 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:08.199 a lot of vehicles just parked on the side. 144 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:08.360 Of the road. 145 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:11.800 A lot of food trucks also parked along there, and 146 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:15.199 it looked like business as usual for those guys. Meanwhile, 147 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:18.519 I see a heavy, heavy plume of smoke coming off 148 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:22.560 the hillside right now, with those choppers from above starting 149 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:26.639 to address that situation. It's one of these quintessential twenty 150 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:30.600 first century California images Right now here coast in Malibu, 151 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:33.840 where you've got a beautiful sunrise, the silhouette of the 152 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:37.399 palm trees and seabirds dancing around it. Just everything you 153 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:40.279 might imagine when you hear the word California, and then 154 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:42.399 in the background a mountain is burning. 155 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:46.799 Now, how close to pch are the flames? What can 156 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:50.320 you actually see right now? 157 00:08:50.360 --> 00:08:53.720 It's mostly just hazy, thick smoke that I'm seeing from 158 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:58.840 right here in I'm on PCH Atlas Flores outside of Dukes. 159 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:05.759 He's not going back a closer, and we're losing you 160 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:08.799 in horrible line. At this point, we just lost you. 161 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:10.919 I want to repeat, at last I heard it was 162 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:12.159 you were outside of Duke's. 163 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:17.639 You know, they've been saying that they've had bad Selle 164 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:21.679 service because of the and everything going on there all morning. 165 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:27.159 And Dukes is a landmark in Malibu. I've beaten there, 166 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:29.919 and so have sure thousands of people. It's been around 167 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:35.559 for decades and decades, So this is scary stuff. We're 168 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:40.279 trying to get Lindsay's cousin who is at this point. 169 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:46.200 He and his wife live in Malibu and they were. 170 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:48.840 Victims of the previous. 171 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:55.159 Malibu fire, lost everything, lost everything, and had to rebuild, 172 00:09:56.360 --> 00:10:01.399 and there she happens to be a interior designer and 173 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:05.440 is helping us with our home. And I think the 174 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:09.399 worst part of it is she has our doorknobs, and 175 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:11.039 this is that's. 176 00:10:10.879 --> 00:10:12.559 Really distressful for your new home. 177 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:16.559 Yeah, we're switching out doorknobs and she she has them 178 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:18.519 all And that's probably the worst part of this fire. 179 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:20.840 You are not a good person, thank you. 180 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:25.480 So Duke's Balibu there just across the one freeway, the 181 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:31.559 Rombla Pacifico Street. There it sounds like where are Michael 182 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:36.480 monks Is? There are a row of shops across the 183 00:10:36.519 --> 00:10:40.559 way there. But even more importantly, you can see that 184 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:45.399 that is lined with very very expensive homes there right 185 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:49.000 just to the side of the mobile gas station right 186 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:50.879 there in that same area. 187 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:54.240 Yeah, when we talk about expensive homes, if you're talking 188 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:58.960 near or a view of the ocean from the. 189 00:10:58.840 --> 00:10:59.840 Bluff stuff above. 190 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:03.360 Expensive is on a level that most people in this 191 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:08.799 country have no idea ten fifteen, twenty million dollar homes. 192 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:16.000 And as I unfortunately that makes news. One hundred people 193 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:19.120 losing their homes that are in the four hundred thousand 194 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:25.279 dollar range, that is less news than a movie Star 195 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:28.919 or a major titan of business losing a twenty million 196 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:32.279 dollar home. It goes to show you just where we 197 00:11:32.360 --> 00:11:36.120 sit in the iconicness. I guess it's the word of 198 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:37.200 southern California. 199 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:38.320 As you pointed out. 200 00:11:38.519 --> 00:11:41.639 If you're familiar with the area, that's the LaCosta Beach 201 00:11:41.799 --> 00:11:44.720 right there, and that's not far not even a mile. 202 00:11:44.759 --> 00:11:49.639 I don't think from the La County Fire Department Station seventy, 203 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:52.679 which isn't far from there either. Of course, they're probably 204 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:54.799 quite active in all of this as well. 205 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:58.440 Hey, Amy, do we have any idea of the number 206 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:01.799 of firefighters out there there? Usually we get that number, 207 00:12:02.240 --> 00:12:06.960 how many fire fighting teams where they're coming from. 208 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:08.720 When you have fires they come from out of state. 209 00:12:08.759 --> 00:12:11.399 I'm assuming it's not that big a fire that is 210 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:12.639 not being handled locally. 211 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:15.440 It is being handled locally, but they have sent out 212 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:19.759 teams from other areas have joined in, like La City 213 00:12:19.799 --> 00:12:23.159 has joined in the fire with La County, and then 214 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:29.200 they're also there are other agencies that have come to 215 00:12:29.320 --> 00:12:31.320 the area. I don't have a number for you, but 216 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:33.720 they're not fighting at alone in La County. 217 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:35.559 And usually and I don't know what. 218 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:41.000 The terrain is, I mean clearly it's mountainous, but we 219 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:46.320 have not heard reports yet of the terrain being inaccessible 220 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:52.200 by fire crews or fire fighters, trucks, water trucks, et cetera. 221 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:56.919 So they send in the fire, not even fire fighters. 222 00:12:56.919 --> 00:12:59.679 They're digging. They're digging these. 223 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:02.840 Fire breaks to try to stop and I don't know 224 00:13:02.840 --> 00:13:05.960 if that's happening yet, but I'm assuming that the only 225 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:08.960 way that they're fighting parts of this fire is with 226 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:13.440 air drops, which is fairly new technology or being used. 227 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:15.480 I mean, technology is around, but in a big way. 228 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:17.679 And the Super Scoopers have taken off. They had to 229 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:21.440 wait till daylight, but so they had water dropping helicopters 230 00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:23.879 doing drops overnight. But now the Super Scoopers are up 231 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:25.159 and they're there. 232 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:26.799 The Super Scoopers are really interesting. 233 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:32.240 Those are those yellow airplanes that are based out of 234 00:13:32.720 --> 00:13:37.679 Vanuy's Airport and they're Canadian airplanes, two of them, and 235 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:39.360 they're leased by the county. 236 00:13:40.559 --> 00:13:43.519 They're rented where they. 237 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:47.200 Literally just go to the nearest Hertz rent a plane 238 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:51.480 office and just lease them and they're used. 239 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:52.360 They're just parked there. 240 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:55.960 And I'd like to talk to Chuck Lovers Chuck a 241 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:57.440 friend of mine, for I don't know. 242 00:13:57.360 --> 00:13:58.879 Twenty five years or more. 243 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:03.519 Who's spent almost thirty years with cal fire fighting these 244 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:07.919 kinds of fires. So, Chuck, as you are watching this, 245 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:13.600 what is going on? Typically because you know, so what's 246 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:17.080 happening in terms of the fire fighting itself? Who's fighting? 247 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:20.799 How many units would you normally call? Just tell us 248 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:22.840 about some of the inside baseball here? 249 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:28.519 Okay, well, good morning bill. Typically an initial brush response, 250 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:32.639 you'll get a couple of crews, five engines, dozers, helicopters, 251 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:36.799 and then they'll reassess, you know, their needs after they 252 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:40.720 get on sea. And right now we have probably cruise 253 00:14:40.759 --> 00:14:47.080 from Vincetra helping us out. CDF is probably helping us out. 254 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:50.799 You know, CalFire, I'm not CalFire, I'm LA County. 255 00:14:51.559 --> 00:14:54.679 And did I mention cal Fire County? 256 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:58.120 I understand I always get anyway with. 257 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:02.360 La County. Let me do that again, La County. 258 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:07.320 All right, we all look alike. Anyway, we have we 259 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:12.840 have automatic aid agreements with the other departments around us. 260 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:16.639 They will fill in. Actually, when we send fire engines 261 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:18.759 to the fire, we will fill behind with other fire 262 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:22.919 engines from other agencies. So we keep everybody protected as 263 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:27.039 much as we can, but what they're doing on the scene, 264 00:15:27.519 --> 00:15:29.240 they can't do anything at the head of the fire 265 00:15:29.559 --> 00:15:32.200 because the flying length is just too big. But they 266 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:35.639 will be crews will be flanking the fire. And what 267 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:39.320 that means the sides, Yeah, you know, starting at the 268 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:41.440 origin and working all the way down to the coast. 269 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:43.360 And does that mean containment? 270 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:47.279 When they talk about containment, those areas surrounding the fire 271 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:52.320 are you know, covered by the firefighters and it's only 272 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:56.799 where the fire is moving forward. Is the fire not 273 00:15:56.960 --> 00:15:58.679 being fought? Do I have that correctly? 274 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:01.679 Well, the head of the fire, they're right in front 275 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:04.360 of the fire, but we will have crews flanking it 276 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:07.799 wherever we can get a crew in the flame link 277 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:13.399 determines what we can do. The dozers, you know, they 278 00:16:13.960 --> 00:16:17.840 can handle stuff, you know, ten, ten, fifteen feet tall sometimes, 279 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:23.679 but the hand crew is someone on foot only you know, 280 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:29.080 they can't go against anything feet, So that's kind of 281 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:32.879 our criteria. Of course, you know we fudge those numbers 282 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:34.519 sometimes so. 283 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:35.960 They will go ahead. 284 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:38.320 I'm sorry, no, no, go ahead, No, I'm just saying 285 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:42.399 that we start at the origin of the fire and 286 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:46.639 just start cutting line and separating the fire from other 287 00:16:46.679 --> 00:16:47.919 stuff that hasn't burnt yet. 288 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:54.200 Now, if you have crews from various agencies, who is 289 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:59.000 telling what fire truck to go there and what fire 290 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:00.600 crew to go We're there? 291 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:05.519 Okay, Well we have pre planned you know, every every area. 292 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:05.880 UH. 293 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:09.920 The Jurisdictional Engines Station seventy, like you mentioned on air, 294 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:13.319 it's the headquarters from Malibu, and they will have pre 295 00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:16.720 plans depending on what canyon is burning because we've we've 296 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:20.160 we've done this before, UH, and they will assign a 297 00:17:20.240 --> 00:17:24.160 number of crews we have. We break down into what 298 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:26.960 we call strike teams. A strike team for crews is 299 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:30.839 two crews with it with a captain and a chief 300 00:17:31.599 --> 00:17:35.920 and that we will deploy them as needed. And then 301 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:39.759 when crews come in from other agencies, they're already you know, 302 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:43.759 they're already in strike team configuration. UH. An engine strike 303 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:46.319 team will be five engines, you know, a total of 304 00:17:46.359 --> 00:17:51.319 twenty men are firefighters and and achieve and then we 305 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:54.480 will assign them as necessary, depending on whether they're mostly 306 00:17:54.960 --> 00:17:58.880 structure protection or there or they're geared for brush. 307 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:01.240 And who makes the decision. 308 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:06.000 Someone ultimately has to make a decision as to which 309 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:10.920 strike team goes where and for even the air drop, 310 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:14.880 Where does it go in this valley or that value 311 00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:16.319 when both are on fire? 312 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:17.799 Correct? 313 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:22.720 Well, the ICs system incident command system is set up 314 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:26.319 immediately on anything that looks like it's going to grow. 315 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:30.240 The chief will get out his maps and he'll look 316 00:18:30.279 --> 00:18:33.160 around and he will start deploying at that point and 317 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:37.880 the system will grow. Other chiefs will come in to 318 00:18:37.960 --> 00:18:43.279 assist p IO, people come in, The National Weather Service 319 00:18:43.319 --> 00:18:46.359 sends people in. You mentioned the Red Cross. They will 320 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:51.319 come in and logistically, because like you said, we've done 321 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:58.000 this before, people just fall in line, just like lining 322 00:18:58.079 --> 00:19:01.599 up a lunch wagon. Everybody just lines up and takes 323 00:19:01.640 --> 00:19:07.079 their turn. As things break out, we will deploy other units. 324 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:12.920 We will put some units in reserve to attack in 325 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:17.519 an area where something spot fires ahead, the helicopters will 326 00:19:17.559 --> 00:19:17.880 go ahead. 327 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:21.400 Now, in terms of the knowledge of that area, you 328 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:24.880 said you know the area, how specific do you know 329 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:28.160 the area? Do you know every ridge, every valley? 330 00:19:28.839 --> 00:19:29.200 Uh? 331 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:33.240 Literally, where everything is with specificity? 332 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:36.400 Pretty much? You know, we know where water is. We 333 00:19:36.440 --> 00:19:39.720 know what you know because we have water staged in 334 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:45.640 cisterns and we and yes, the local jurisdiction engines. That's 335 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:47.960 what we do on a daily basis. We just drive 336 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:52.519 the motorways and verify things. You know, even after the 337 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:54.519 fire is over, we're going to drive those things. We're 338 00:19:54.519 --> 00:19:56.759 going to be there weeks after this fire is out 339 00:19:56.799 --> 00:19:59.799 and all the news people have gone home, because we 340 00:19:59.799 --> 00:20:05.680 will will be prepared. We were preparing for the winter rains. 341 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:08.839 You know, I'll bet you, and that's when you relax 342 00:20:08.880 --> 00:20:11.119 when the rains come. Chuck, thank you so much. We're 343 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:13.279 gonna come back to you. I mean, you're on top 344 00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:16.160 of this, watching this thing, and there's no one has 345 00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:17.559 more expertise than you do. 346 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:19.920 La County Fire. 347 00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:24.400 Correct, all right, Chucks County Fire. But there are a 348 00:20:24.440 --> 00:20:26.759 lot of people that are the guys are on the 349 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:28.119 line are very knowledgeable. 350 00:20:28.279 --> 00:20:28.640 All right. 351 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:29.799 I worked with him for years. 352 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:31.119 Take care, Thanks. 353 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:33.200 Chuck, Okay, any time, Bill. 354 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:35.079 All Right. Chuck's a very interesting guy. 355 00:20:35.400 --> 00:20:39.759 Chuck is extraordinary in terms of his ability, and he 356 00:20:39.960 --> 00:20:44.319 turned down promotions because he wanted to fight fires. 357 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:46.279 He wanted to be at the edge of the bay indet. 358 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:48.160 Very very interesting guy. 359 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:52.359 Mimi Teller is a spokesperson for the Red Cross, LA 360 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:54.759 and Mimi, thank you for joining us. 361 00:20:55.519 --> 00:20:58.039 Red Cross extraordinary organization. 362 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:02.519 First of all, where are you right now the Red 363 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:03.960 Cross centers, what are you doing? 364 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:05.960 And then I have a bunch of follow up questions. 365 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:12.039 Yeah, good morning Bill. We have an evacuation shelter located 366 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:16.599 in Pacific Palisades eight five to one, Alama Reale, and 367 00:21:16.759 --> 00:21:20.200 we have twelve residents at the moment, including some goats, 368 00:21:20.599 --> 00:21:22.960 and we're giving them a safe, warm place to stay 369 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:23.839 and some food. 370 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:27.200 Well, here's something important. What kind of food? And is 371 00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:29.160 it worthwhile coming down there for breakfast? 372 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:33.480 Well, right now we just have continental fare, but we're 373 00:21:33.480 --> 00:21:35.960 going to have a nice warm lunch and if we 374 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:38.240 need to, we'll have a nice warm dinner with warm 375 00:21:38.279 --> 00:21:39.480 breakfast tomorrow. 376 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:44.640 Huh, that doesn't sound bad. Okay, fair enough. 377 00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:49.079 Now going back to the centers and getting a little 378 00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:54.000 bit more serious. Are these pre planned locations or does 379 00:21:54.319 --> 00:21:57.200 do the fire authorities tell you this is where we'd like. 380 00:21:57.160 --> 00:21:57.599 You to go. 381 00:21:59.079 --> 00:22:02.799 Now, the Red Class relationships with community partners throughout the 382 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:05.240 whole county. So when we know that we're going to 383 00:22:05.279 --> 00:22:08.279 need to stand up a shelter, we rechat to those partners. 384 00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:12.839 Okay, so how close to the fires do you try 385 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:15.920 to get? Uh? 386 00:22:16.359 --> 00:22:18.359 You know, we want to make sure that people can 387 00:22:18.440 --> 00:22:23.000 get here easily and quickly, so they also need to 388 00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:26.519 remain safe. So we were initially looking at some other 389 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:29.440 locations like Malibu High School, but we wouldn't have had 390 00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:32.559 any road access, so we were able to be here 391 00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:33.960 at the Palisades Rec Center. 392 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:34.640 Right. 393 00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:38.519 So, typically when you set up these centers, how do 394 00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:41.480 you you know, anticipate how long people are going to 395 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:42.480 say stay there? 396 00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:43.839 And what do you plan for? 397 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:45.799 And you didn't tell me what people are having for 398 00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:47.599 breakfast breakfast or lunch either. 399 00:22:49.599 --> 00:22:52.400 Right now we have some chocolate cake and bagels and 400 00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:56.079 cream cheese, and there's even ramen in there, and some coffee. 401 00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:00.160