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<v Speaker 1>Just interested in esotericism that you're going to like make

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<v Speaker 1>it your life or was there did you find yourself

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just teetering that way, Like, at what point

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<v Speaker 1>did you realize the cult was for you?

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea, no idea it. At first. I

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<v Speaker 2>was at a party long time ago, long long, long

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<v Speaker 2>time ago, and this lady had just said, I just

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<v Speaker 2>got back from India and I was at an ashram.

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<v Speaker 2>When I heard the word ashram, it sparked something in me.

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<v Speaker 2>It created like a little chill down my spine. And

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<v Speaker 2>I said to her, Wow, that's cool. Uh, what's an ashram?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do? You just hang out there? And

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<v Speaker 2>I said, no, what do you do?

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<v Speaker 3>Said?

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<v Speaker 2>I just hang out there? Didn't get very far, but

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<v Speaker 2>as time, you know, things happened when they're supposed to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>The next week in Time magazine there was an article

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<v Speaker 2>on ashram in India and all people from North America

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<v Speaker 2>going there. Wow, that was very interesting. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>met somebody and they sort of dragged me to yoga.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea what yoga was, but since she

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<v Speaker 2>at that time became my new girlfriend, I just went

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<v Speaker 2>along and I started doing yoga. I started to have experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd do, you know, the asanas, the different postures, and

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<v Speaker 2>then sit a little bit in sort of what they

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<v Speaker 2>called it meditation at that time. And I never tried meditating,

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<v Speaker 2>but when I closed my eyes, I started to have

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<v Speaker 2>sea things and feel like I was moving somewhere. So

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<v Speaker 2>I went and asked the yoga teacher, you know what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening to me? First thing, he said, are you on drugs?

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<v Speaker 2>And I said no, right, I said no. Well, then

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that yoga teacher didn't know anything regarding something

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<v Speaker 2>that was deeper. But an interesting thing happened. This was

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<v Speaker 2>part of the University of Toronto Yoga Club and they

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<v Speaker 2>owned a very large retreat not that far north of Toronto,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were having a yoga weekend of which I

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<v Speaker 2>took part. Somehow, this swamy from India who had been

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<v Speaker 2>in the US was traveling back to India somehow ended

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<v Speaker 2>up for a couple of hours at this retreat. There

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<v Speaker 2>must have been fifty people there. Anyways, the swami, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to make this really quick, asked if anybody would

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<v Speaker 2>like to meditate. Out of the fifty people, only five

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<v Speaker 2>myself and four others. But this Swami was not an

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<v Speaker 2>ordinary swamy. First for an Indian, he was kind of big.

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<v Speaker 2>But when we started meditating, he rejected something that I

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<v Speaker 2>became visible in my mind and I could hear his

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<v Speaker 2>voice pulling me and taking me, and then at a

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<v Speaker 2>certain point he says, that's as far as you can go,

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<v Speaker 2>and it all disappeared. I was not naive, and well

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<v Speaker 2>a lot younger was twenty four or something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't know what even to ask him. I

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<v Speaker 2>tried asking. He ignored me. But the interesting thing is

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<v Speaker 2>that his energy we call Shakhti, stayed in me for

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<v Speaker 2>a month and change and I could bring up this

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<v Speaker 2>meditation that he projected, and then I thought this is

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<v Speaker 2>really cool. Right then somebody gave me a book autobiography

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<v Speaker 2>of the Yogi, and reading that I started to have

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<v Speaker 2>experiences of Yogananda and etc. And I said, wow, this

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<v Speaker 2>is fascinating. Then I thought, well, maybe I should look

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<v Speaker 2>for some other people. So I started looking for a group.

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<v Speaker 2>When I saw at the local health food store, anyone

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<v Speaker 2>interested in the esupare group ocult knowledge call this number.

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<v Speaker 2>So I took one of those you know, those little

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<v Speaker 2>where they put the numbers and you just rip it off.

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<v Speaker 2>This is long before internet, etcetera, etcetera. Phone the guy

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<v Speaker 2>and he said, Hi, have you read any books by

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<v Speaker 2>Alice Bailey? I said, no, never heard of her. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you been to the the No, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>that is, okay? And he hung up. Didn't even think

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I just hung up on me.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple hours later, the phone rang. I picked it up.

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<v Speaker 2>It was another person saying, if you want to come

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<v Speaker 2>or at the Toronto Theosophical Society Tuesday nights whatever. So

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<v Speaker 2>I went, And when I went, it was this Asian

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<v Speaker 2>man sitting in a blue blazer, gray pants, a typical,

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<v Speaker 2>very stereotype business thing, with a very tall wife. He

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<v Speaker 2>was short, and there's about ten other people sitting cross

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<v Speaker 2>legged on chairs. Then he brought out this mandela. He

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<v Speaker 2>called it Atma Vidia and started talking about it. I

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<v Speaker 2>got such chills and feeling running through me looking at that,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that's where I belonged. He became my teacher

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<v Speaker 2>for thirty odd years. He's been dead now for fifteen years,

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<v Speaker 2>and somehow before he died, he had achieved cities with

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<v Speaker 2>the call in his case mantra shatti. If you came

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<v Speaker 2>into his presence, you could feel something changing within you.

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<v Speaker 2>But he only had maybe ten students. It's not many.

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<v Speaker 2>And somehow his lineage or the force to shock the

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<v Speaker 2>energy was passed to me a couple of years after

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<v Speaker 2>he passed away. And makes what's really interesting. He's reincarnated

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<v Speaker 2>now and I somehow the person was brought to me,

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<v Speaker 2>not on purpose. They didn't know who he was. But

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<v Speaker 2>he's now a young lady of about thirteen years old,

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<v Speaker 2>and she likes meditating. He was a food flavorist and

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<v Speaker 2>was a great cook, and she loves cooking. There's so

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<v Speaker 2>many things. One time, a cute little story with the

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<v Speaker 2>group I have. We have a yearly picnic and she

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<v Speaker 2>comes to the picnic and she's playing cards with my

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<v Speaker 2>wife and two other ladies, and she can be a

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<v Speaker 2>little girl. But then all of a sudden, she switched

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<v Speaker 2>and she said, first I taught Cyrus. Yeah, Cyrus, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>teaches you. And then she's back as a little girl.

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<v Speaker 2>So just a story, and you know, then after my

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<v Speaker 2>teacher died, then it was several years later things began

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<v Speaker 2>occulty to happen to me, and it took me a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. And it's difficult because people make claims, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very careful of making claims. In my first book,

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<v Speaker 2>Living on the Inner Edge, which has written forty odd

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<v Speaker 2>years after my first experience of a master of wisdom,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people ask me, well, did you search him? No.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in the early mid seventies, nineteen seventy eight, to

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<v Speaker 2>be exactly, that's the late seventies. I came home late

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<v Speaker 2>from work. I was an art teacher. You can see

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<v Speaker 2>some of my paintings on the background there. I was

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<v Speaker 2>an art teacher and came home and my teacher I

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<v Speaker 2>had rented this huge home. We were like ex hippies.

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<v Speaker 2>My teacher and his family lived there. I lived there,

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of other students lived. There was a three floor,

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<v Speaker 2>huge place with three or four bathrooms, etc. And we

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<v Speaker 2>had a meeting area. We had meditation room, plus living

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<v Speaker 2>and a huge kitchen because my teacher was a great cook.

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<v Speaker 2>So I came home and he's talking, having a discussion

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<v Speaker 2>about the Great Invocation with the past president of the

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<v Speaker 2>Toronto Theosophical Society. So I thought I could sit down

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<v Speaker 2>and listen in. He says, no, just go up to

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<v Speaker 2>the meditation room and meditate for a while. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>I went up started to meditate, and then this four

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<v Speaker 2>my body became paralyzed and I could feel like these

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<v Speaker 2>lines of force running through the top of my head

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<v Speaker 2>to the base of my spine, and instantly I knew

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<v Speaker 2>it was the Masterurocracy. I don't know anything about him

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, but I knew who it was. So

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<v Speaker 2>I finished and I came downstairs. The other gentleman had left.

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<v Speaker 2>Told my teacher that I had this experience, and he

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<v Speaker 2>just reacted, Huh, we don't have anything to do with

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<v Speaker 2>the Masterurocracy. That's not our line, Okay, So I forgot

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Two weeks later, my teacher is going to

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<v Speaker 2>Virginia Beach, you know where the Edgar Casey Foundation is,

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<v Speaker 2>and he stopped in Montreal, Montreal, Baltimore on the way

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<v Speaker 2>down to visit a friend before going, and that night,

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<v Speaker 2>the Masterurocracy appears to him and teaches him a word

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<v Speaker 2>of power or a mantra given by a master of wisdom.

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<v Speaker 2>Not ordinary, it's interesting. He woke up during this experience experience,

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<v Speaker 2>and then woke up his little daughter. His wife wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>wake up, but his daughter woke up, who's like four

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<v Speaker 2>or five, and they chant with the master and then

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<v Speaker 2>they fall asleep. My teacher wakes up and forgets about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but the little girl she wakes up, Daddy, aren't we

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<v Speaker 2>going to chant some more? Anyways, that word of power

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<v Speaker 2>went and transformed. It like opened a portal into the

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<v Speaker 2>higher inner ocult worlds that you can't find in books. So,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, you can go on YouTube and listen to

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<v Speaker 2>a mantra. Also many oh money, put me whom namushi

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<v Speaker 2>vaya whatever, or you know what is it? So many pops.

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<v Speaker 2>You get a bit of energy, but it's like having,

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<v Speaker 2>say a hand fan, and you're that's the energy level.

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<v Speaker 2>But you get a mantra from a master. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in front of a fan that's plugged into the

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<v Speaker 2>wall that doesn't stop. There's a huge People don't realize

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<v Speaker 2>the difference. And I never mentioned that, and we never

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<v Speaker 2>talked about it out of the group. I didn't talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it until I wrote my book, after long after

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<v Speaker 2>my teacher had already passed away, right five years after

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<v Speaker 2>he had passed away. That I wrote the book and

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that, And in that book it's only mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>two masters. But since then, as I've made progress and

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<v Speaker 2>some of my new students are very advanced souls. They

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<v Speaker 2>never heard of Alice Bailey, they never heard of theosophy.

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<v Speaker 2>They man'teven hear about the occult. But somehow they were

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<v Speaker 2>drawn to me through karmic necessity or what they call

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<v Speaker 2>ashramic needs on the inner plane, because I'm old there.

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<v Speaker 2>They when they came were like twenty nine. We have

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with each other, but they're drawn in.

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<v Speaker 2>And since then the masturocracy has given two more montroms,

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<v Speaker 2>one exceedingly powerful. For instance, to give an example, my

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<v Speaker 2>teacher was highly intelligent. He understood many philosophies. He had

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<v Speaker 2>his awakening at sixteen at a place called Buru Budhu

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<v Speaker 2>in Indonesia, which is an ancient Buddhist temple. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>UNESCO United Nations UNESCO site. Now, if he never got

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<v Speaker 2>into mantra, I know, it's funny anyways. So one, because

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<v Speaker 2>he's questioning this mantra even though it came from the

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<v Speaker 2>Master and he knew what it was. He had a

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<v Speaker 2>dream where he's sitting in front of a Tibetan tanka,

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<v Speaker 2>you know those Tibetan paintings that they have in the monasteries,

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<v Speaker 2>and as he's meditating in front of this tanka. Three

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<v Speaker 2>yogis appear out of the tanka before him, and they

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<v Speaker 2>chant the same mantra, but at different rhythms and notes,

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<v Speaker 2>and they say one is like the one you're doing now.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there's one that's related to the advance masters, and

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<v Speaker 2>then there's one that's for the chohans what are called

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<v Speaker 2>the lords on the inner plane, showing him the delineation,

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<v Speaker 2>same words, but through with different influence their power. So

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<v Speaker 2>like many people when they chant, they do what they

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<v Speaker 2>call joppai. You got money, money, but many, many times.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you get through a master's only it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>even four or five times is too much. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>big difference, and so your body becomes energized.

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<v Speaker 3>Why is that mind? If I ask you why, it's

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<v Speaker 3>too much?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's like sticking your finger into a socket.

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<v Speaker 3>It's too charged, is what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So you have to adjust yourself over time. Thus,

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<v Speaker 2>a real esoteric group is layered or tiered. So with

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<v Speaker 2>this mantra, I've only given it in the last few years.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been given the right to pass it on to

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<v Speaker 2>about ten people, not many. And when people come into

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<v Speaker 3>So you gave them the first half of the mantra

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<v Speaker 3>and let them train with it, and then you gave

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<v Speaker 3>them the second half of the mantra. Is that What

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<v Speaker 2>I'll explain. Okay, First I gave them the male aspect

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting the yin in the yang, Because what is a mantra?

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<v Speaker 2>something you chant but that's a mantra. Is not that

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<v Speaker 2>at all? A mantra is the sound body of a deity. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So a mantra is the deity. So when the Master

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<v Speaker 4>And then who is the master?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the masters the Master Rocracy. So he he is

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<v Speaker 3>And where's he come from?

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<v Speaker 2>So he was known as the master Saint Germaine? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but St Germaine he killed him off because he finished

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<v Speaker 3>is what you're telling me? And lucis trust Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? So through the books of Alice Bailey, we are

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<v Speaker 3>Read space there, can I rend space at the UN.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've never been part of yeah that yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, of course not, of course not. I like this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's quite fascinating. So I just a little I'm

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<v Speaker 3>But what's fascinating about what you're saying about mantras interesting

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<v Speaker 3>enough is that in one of my favorite stories, it's

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<v Speaker 3>the Chinese Web novel, so it's a Chinese myth and

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<v Speaker 3>what they they One of the secret teachings in there

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<v Speaker 3>that you come to find out is when they're doing

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<v Speaker 3>or they're trying to banish a space. You at first

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<v Speaker 3>think it's just a normal spell or a banishing ritual

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<v Speaker 3>or something to cleanse the area. But what I've come

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<v Speaker 3>to uncover is that that is actually in and of

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<v Speaker 3>it kind of relates to what you're saying. Fascinating enough

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<v Speaker 3>where when you get higher up in the hierarchy of

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<v Speaker 3>isn't just a sacred power word that's trying to break

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<v Speaker 3>up the monotony of the mind, but actually you're invoking

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<v Speaker 3>a deity while you say it, is that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm getting what you're getting at.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you are invoking if you know the correct methodology.

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<v Speaker 2>Many of these ancient Chinese stories have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>movies in the seventies. Nice men were barely translated, they

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<v Speaker 2>were not They were in Chinese theaters, so they weren't

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<v Speaker 2>the dubbed ones. You know, Hey, Joe, let's go get them.

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<v Speaker 2>They were in Chinese but with though, but many had any.

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<v Speaker 2>My teacher would tell us some of the myth mythic

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<v Speaker 2>stories that are behind some of these kung fu things,

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<v Speaker 2>and some are very occult, and I fully believe in

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's mag these things you were talking about, Maga

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<v Speaker 3>Their manga manga, or it's based itself of off of

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<v Speaker 3>a Chinese web novel. Sorry my mic was muted, but yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 3>that was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like it might have been Journey to the West

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<v Speaker 2>because Alan who arranged this for like, he's only thirty five.

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<v Speaker 2>They follow all that kind of nice me to do it, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm in my late seventies. So the difference. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>But many movies and stuff, unconsciously some ocult truths sneak

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<v Speaker 2>sneak into it. Yeah, you know, so same with the

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<v Speaker 2>comics sense, what is it some of these online video

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely, definitely. I mean that's what I built my whole

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a good subtle way, yep, I do it

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<v Speaker 2>in an unsubtle way.

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<v Speaker 6>I find it.

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<v Speaker 1>Y I didn't want to say I find it interesting

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<v Speaker 1>with the with you with the mantra because like, even

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the past, how I had used mantras a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It was to actually take on a god form. So

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting how like you said that, like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times, Judith may even I know this like from

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<v Speaker 1>hearing other people on the oto doing it or practice

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<v Speaker 1>the lym magic. Sometimes you would take on the god

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<v Speaker 6>So flake me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I might do like less abanaghing original of

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<v Speaker 1>the pentagram, banish everything, you know that maybe like colon

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<v Speaker 1>or I might even go into the actagram whatever. I

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<v Speaker 1>I was lucky. I was big into Egyptian gods. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people say, like, take on a pose of

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<v Speaker 2>You can stand Neus in the background there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I would put the so then I it

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<v Speaker 1>repeat their name almost in a chance as a mantra

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<v Speaker 1>for a while and actually visualizing whatever. And yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>If you understand that what you're doing and what you're

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<v Speaker 2>numerous Egyptian lives and you're bringing out what we call

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<v Speaker 2>a some scara, some scar as, a latent tendency that's

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<v Speaker 2>within your soul, that's like hidden there, but under certain

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<v Speaker 2>you might say modified somewhere. But the past repeats itself always, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you if you've been doing Egyptian ritual, you've

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<v Speaker 1>I even changed a middle pillar to Egyptian because I

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<v Speaker 3>Nice. So you changed the names, is what you're saying there,

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<v Speaker 3>nick to Egyptian names.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>So will you do Egyptian?

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<v Speaker 5>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>You see one of the paintings behind me is isis?

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<v Speaker 2>She appeared to me and told me to painter, So

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<v Speaker 3>Nice. That looks good. It looks pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. The strangest thing is she appeared to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, I figure that out? Yeah yeah, yeah right, So.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had many experiences, not Egypt. My wife has a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of Egypt. But Anubis came to me, so I

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<v Speaker 2>have the statue there. When we were in Egypt the

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<v Speaker 2>first time we traveled to Egypt, and we took a

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<v Speaker 2>tour the first day to go to the Pyramids. We're

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<v Speaker 2>staying as close as possible to the Pyramids, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>taken through and my wife goes on a camel, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, rides a camel and we're walking around. It's

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<v Speaker 2>really cool, cool as it's a cool thing to do,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was forty degrees, which would be like ninety

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<v Speaker 2>something if you're in the US anyway. So part of

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<v Speaker 2>the tour was to take us to any Egyptian art place.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to sell stuff and they show you how

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<v Speaker 2>to make papyrus and stuff. But I'm standing in there

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, I feel again this force

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<v Speaker 2>come down on me and I don't know Egyptian stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, Nubis just came to me. And then

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<v Speaker 2>And from that a whole line of Egyptian knowledge and

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<v Speaker 2>ritual came from a Nubis.

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<v Speaker 3>So have you have you studied any of the Golden

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<v Speaker 3>Dawn works or anything like that, because it just sounds

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<v Speaker 3>the systems you're working through. Is it straight from the

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<v Speaker 3>theosophical tradition and gur jief and things like that, or

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<v Speaker 3>what are we blending into this?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good question, because it is a blend, as

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<v Speaker 2>synthesis is the right word for simplicity. I tell people

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<v Speaker 2>to somebody that was following some Tibetan Waderiana, they'd say, what,

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<v Speaker 2>that's nothing like Wadriiana. Okay, okay. So the Golden Dawn

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<v Speaker 2>was external ritual. I have a huge book. See that

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<v Speaker 2>big thick book in the center of that bookshelf. That's

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<v Speaker 2>big Golden Dawn thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't remember, but it's not Israel regarded anyways. Their ritual

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<v Speaker 2>is external and they apply what's called the seventh Ray

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<v Speaker 2>when you have several people together, and just like he

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<v Speaker 2>was explaining a few minutes ago, doing this ritual, if

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<v Speaker 2>you have some aspect of the past, of a past life,

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<v Speaker 2>doing this, you create a dynamic force of a group

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<v Speaker 2>of people, and you can invoke through ritual some type

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like an agrogor yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Most individuals don't recognize what the entity is, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>where the danger is. When we started with our in

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<v Speaker 2>long time ago, before we received the mantra of the Masturocracy,

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<v Speaker 2>we were wandering around just like everyone else. Try this,

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<v Speaker 2>try that, let's do this. And we did some ritual

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<v Speaker 2>to try and invoke through the kabbola and even learned

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<v Speaker 2>some Hebrew for it back then. And I know I

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<v Speaker 2>have some as I mentioned the words some scars related

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<v Speaker 2>to the Kabbla. I know I've done it in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>And we started and we actually did invoke, but then

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<v Speaker 2>we could feel that it was not the right kind

421
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<v Speaker 2>of force, and we destroyed our ritual and we stopped dead.

422
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<v Speaker 2>So with the mantra of that's given by the Masturocracy,

423
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<v Speaker 2>the deity, we know the dt know the aspects, the

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<v Speaker 2>purpose from what it does. That was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>problems and why at the beginning at the end of

426
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<v Speaker 2>the Golden Dawn between McGregor Mathers and when Westcott and

427
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<v Speaker 2>then that other guy that came in that wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>destroy everything. Yeah, the energy that they invoke in the

429
00:28:50.440 --> 00:28:57.079
<v Speaker 2>rituals goes to the wrong place and it charges the

430
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<v Speaker 2>wrong lower chakras, and their egos become huge.

431
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<v Speaker 6>You know, it's funny. I was gonna say it goes

432
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<v Speaker 6>to the head. That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>It actually goes way below the head, then both below

434
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<v Speaker 2>to the head, ping pongs. If you get the analogy anyway.

435
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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, spot on, Yeah, we got that.

436
00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:27.839
<v Speaker 2>But that happens in ocult groups too, And that's one

437
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<v Speaker 2>of the reasons I'm very careful with the mantra. If

438
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<v Speaker 2>you can't hold or know the secret of the Holy Grail,

439
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:41.880
<v Speaker 2>you can't do it, because the secret of the Holy

440
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<v Speaker 2>Grail is necessary when chanting a mantra, the real meaning

441
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<v Speaker 2>of the Holy Grail.

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<v Speaker 3>And and is that something that then you know not

443
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<v Speaker 3>through words, but through deeds and actions or through like

444
00:29:58.519 --> 00:30:01.039
<v Speaker 3>a feeling instead, you know the the secret of the

445
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<v Speaker 3>Holy Grail through your understanding of what you're saying right now, ok.

446
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you can't read about it.

447
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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying.

448
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<v Speaker 2>It comes to inner knowledge. The Holy Grail in the

449
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<v Speaker 2>Wadriyana is developing a second dairy type of body. You

450
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<v Speaker 2>have to learn how to hold the energy the Holy Grail.

451
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<v Speaker 2>The blood of the Christ has nothing to do with blood,

452
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<v Speaker 2>but it has to do with the shakti that comes

453
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<v Speaker 2>from the higher planes and has to be held somewhere

454
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<v Speaker 2>and not spilt. So you have to create within yourself

455
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<v Speaker 2>the holy grail and learn to hold the shakti. Because

456
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<v Speaker 2>most people they have a great meditation. Wow, that's great,

457
00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:53.799
<v Speaker 2>I feel fantastic. Then they go to a bar and

458
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<v Speaker 2>have a beer and the energy gone within thirty seconds,

459
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:03.200
<v Speaker 2>or they start gossiping with their friends, you know, if

460
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<v Speaker 2>they're at an ashram, gone within ten seconds. To build

461
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<v Speaker 2>the holy grail, like if you build a building, a

462
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:15.519
<v Speaker 2>big building could take a year, but it takes ten

463
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<v Speaker 2>minutes to destroy it. As above, so below it takes

464
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<v Speaker 2>a long time to build a receptacle within you that

465
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<v Speaker 2>holds and maintains this shot the energy, but by wrong

466
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<v Speaker 2>action it's destroyed very quickly. That's why in ancient times

467
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<v Speaker 2>the Yogis lived in caves or in the mountains and

468
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<v Speaker 2>hid away because they didn't want external influences to break

469
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<v Speaker 2>and give them an opportunity to lose this, so they

470
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:57.559
<v Speaker 2>hit out right. Gurd Jeff understood this and he played

471
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<v Speaker 2>with his students and had what he called dinner for

472
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:05.880
<v Speaker 2>the idiots. He get them drunk, so they're shakti would

473
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<v Speaker 2>leak out and he would steal it. He wouldn't drink.

474
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<v Speaker 2>He's a bit of a dark magician Grd Jeff, but

475
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<v Speaker 2>he's awakened where Usbensky wasn't. Didn't understand and.

476
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<v Speaker 3>Why do you make that dichotomy between those two.

477
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:28.480
<v Speaker 2>There's a great difference. Uspensky was an alcoholic. You can't

478
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<v Speaker 2>be an alcoholic and be awakened.

479
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:34.559
<v Speaker 3>True, But can you steal somebody's loose and be awakened?

480
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<v Speaker 2>Steal somebody's oh like like like they're shakti. You know

481
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<v Speaker 2>when you're with them, you can't share.

482
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<v Speaker 3>It, okay, So it's almost like they're being drunk. Is

483
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<v Speaker 3>them sharing it because they were stupid enough to get

484
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<v Speaker 3>drunk and give it away?

485
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Cyrus.

486
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<v Speaker 2>There's a book called Warriors Way by de Rope and

487
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:06.000
<v Speaker 2>he spent twelve years with Uspensky and five with Gerd Jeff.

488
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<v Speaker 2>He's a scientist. He was a biochemical whatever Rockefeller Scientists

489
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<v Speaker 2>or something like that, world renowned. So he doesn't play

490
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:25.160
<v Speaker 2>games when he rates and very insightful and studied the

491
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<v Speaker 2>Gurdjeff work for a long time. I do employ certain

492
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:36.240
<v Speaker 2>aspects of the Gerdjeff work. It's very good for self knowledge,

493
00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:42.480
<v Speaker 2>especially the books of Maurice Nicole, the psychological commentaries. But

494
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<v Speaker 2>you have to have a certain knowledge to understand those books. Yeah,

495
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:51.559
<v Speaker 2>Gurdjeff hit a lot. He knew certain laws and he

496
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:53.680
<v Speaker 2>used Aspensky as his puppet.

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<v Speaker 6>It's funny that you mentioned the whole getting drunk thing.

498
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<v Speaker 6>It's just so random.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was a cult that we covered a long

500
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<v Speaker 1>time ago called the Fellowship of Friends, and they owned

501
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:07.960
<v Speaker 1>like a winery and they were.

502
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:11.000
<v Speaker 6>A cult that pushed the Fourth Way shit on their people.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's kind of funny how alcohol. Yeah, Yo, it

504
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:18.519
<v Speaker 6>was still a point to where they had.

505
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<v Speaker 1>Them playing in certain uh, certain keys, like people there

506
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<v Speaker 1>had to play instruments, and they were like certain they

507
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<v Speaker 1>were making them play certain music so then they could

508
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<v Speaker 1>actually say certain things to them in that key to

509
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<v Speaker 1>influence them. It was fucking one, they know what the

510
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<v Speaker 1>we're doing, dude.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, sorry, but it just.

512
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<v Speaker 1>It just reminded me of the wine and Fourth Way and.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well in Tibetan Buddhism with Chogiam Trunk, but he

514
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<v Speaker 3>is like the drunken monk and Chokium. Trump is the

515
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<v Speaker 3>one who created Dharma Ocean, right that that sits in Boulder.

516
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.599
<v Speaker 3>There's Dharma like And so it's funny that he went

517
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<v Speaker 3>away from Tibetan Buddhism, all the structure of it, and

518
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<v Speaker 3>then became the guy who got wasted been taught to

519
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<v Speaker 3>bet Buddhism to white people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I think he died when he's very young.

521
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<v Speaker 2>But I think higher forces saw how he's destroying Buddhism.

522
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<v Speaker 2>I agree. But I met him one time. I met

523
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<v Speaker 2>so many of these guys, you know that were famous

524
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<v Speaker 2>back then.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, nice, nice, But that's cool that you met Trump.

526
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:28.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean you met him, and did you go to

527
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<v Speaker 3>Boulder or where'd you meet him?

528
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Toronto?

529
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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

530
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<v Speaker 3>He was in Toronto. That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, he

531
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<v Speaker 3>made his people do some pretty weird stuff and the

532
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:37.599
<v Speaker 3>split chunk. But trumpa is the one who kind of

533
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:41.000
<v Speaker 3>created a spiritual war between his son and a student,

534
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:43.960
<v Speaker 3>and that's where you get the difference between Shambala and

535
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<v Speaker 3>Dharma Ocean.

536
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<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, I just never valued what came out

537
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<v Speaker 2>of there.

538
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:52.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know me either, I don't know. I'm just

539
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:54.519
<v Speaker 3>telling you that that's a fascinating spiritual war.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I imagine Trump was his name trumpa Yeah, he

541
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:03.800
<v Speaker 2>was kicked out of England by the Buddhist society, came

542
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:06.760
<v Speaker 2>to America and they made made him a hero.

543
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:08.440
<v Speaker 3>Isn't that what we do?

544
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:08.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

545
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:10.360
<v Speaker 3>I know, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 8>I do have I do have a question for you. Now,

547
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:20.599
<v Speaker 8>you say you you you there's very few people that

548
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<v Speaker 8>you shared those powerful mantras with, and you did mention

549
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:29.400
<v Speaker 8>that they usually have to do two years of being

550
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<v Speaker 8>in silence.

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<v Speaker 6>How do you No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, that was school of Pythagoras, which was what five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred BC. M No. All the people that are with

554
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<v Speaker 2>me work have jobs for professionals.

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<v Speaker 9>So how how do they Because like those those of

556
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<v Speaker 9>us that go out into the world and we work,

557
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:59.000
<v Speaker 9>there are so many distractions and interference in that. So

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<v Speaker 9>how do you guide them through following the path to

559
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<v Speaker 9>empower themselves to get that fort too, to be able

560
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<v Speaker 9>to maintain those mantrash.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good question. It's a very good question. I

562
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<v Speaker 2>like one of the phrases that Geff did say, to

563
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<v Speaker 2>be in the world but not of it. So one

564
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:33.079
<v Speaker 2>of the things that I teach is actually an open secret.

565
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:37.280
<v Speaker 2>It's out in the open, but people can't see it.

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<v Speaker 2>What an individual has to do is to learn how

567
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<v Speaker 2>to align with this their soul on the higher plane.

568
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<v Speaker 2>But what is not clearly written in books, though it

569
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<v Speaker 2>is there, is that the soul is dual. It has

570
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<v Speaker 2>a duality. It exists on the higher mental plane that

571
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:08.239
<v Speaker 2>holds all your past, lives, all your memory. But a

572
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:16.280
<v Speaker 2>portion of it is within your heart and you have

573
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<v Speaker 2>to awaken. It is not the personality that awakens, and

574
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<v Speaker 2>it is this aspect we call it the essential nature

575
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<v Speaker 2>or the essence. You have to be able to separate

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00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:34.039
<v Speaker 2>it from your personality. Remember, the Latin of personality is persona,

577
00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:39.239
<v Speaker 2>which means to hide. So our personalities, which grow up

578
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:45.280
<v Speaker 2>through society, hides that true part of our being that

579
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:50.719
<v Speaker 2>we're born with is our essence. That is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best parts of the Gurdjev teaching, even though it

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00:38:53.440 --> 00:39:00.599
<v Speaker 2>exists in the Bailey teaching, etc. So when you awaken

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00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:03.880
<v Speaker 2>your essence or in the process of it, and you

583
00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:08.840
<v Speaker 2>start to experience it, the strange thing is is sometimes

584
00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:12.599
<v Speaker 2>when you touch it and get the knowledge that's there,

585
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:17.760
<v Speaker 2>you see that what it wants, this soul life is

586
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:23.559
<v Speaker 2>very different than what your personality wants because you're it's

587
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:26.760
<v Speaker 2>your true being and it holds your true purpose.

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<v Speaker 7>It sounds like you're speaking of the death of the.

589
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<v Speaker 2>Ego, of the what the ego? Oh not the death. No,

590
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:36.639
<v Speaker 2>you cannot kill the ego.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, but well, it's interesting because it's like I

592
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:42.639
<v Speaker 5>practice Buddhism as well, so I practice nature and shows

593
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<v Speaker 5>you Buddhism and it's kind of like the ten factors, right,

594
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<v Speaker 5>Like you have your nature, your entity, your appearance, and

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00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:51.079
<v Speaker 5>then you go out in the world and you have

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00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:54.480
<v Speaker 5>relations with everything, and that innate power that you have

597
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:58.440
<v Speaker 5>inside of you is what the effect will be. Will

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<v Speaker 5>that thing change you? Will you change that thing?

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<v Speaker 4>Will you be able to maintain that balance?

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<v Speaker 5>Like?

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<v Speaker 4>I like where you're going with that, okay, because it

602
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<v Speaker 4>reminds me of that.

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<v Speaker 2>So eventually, as this essence awakens, you realize where your

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<v Speaker 2>identifications are. If you at work and all of a

605
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<v Speaker 2>sudden somebody gets you upset, as soon as you get

606
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<v Speaker 2>angry you want to yell at your work person, then

607
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<v Speaker 2>you have to realize that you're going to lose your energy.

608
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<v Speaker 2>You have to stop, try and withdraw focus, even for

609
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<v Speaker 2>a few seconds and not get angry. The choice is

610
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<v Speaker 2>always yours. That great saint off Wadriana Milarepa from Tibet said,

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<v Speaker 2>the moment you become angry and identify, you drop to

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<v Speaker 2>the lower planes, which means you lose your energy and

613
00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:54.320
<v Speaker 2>you drop into the lower worlds. So the real test,

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<v Speaker 2>as Kavia was saying, is creating this inner balance, and

615
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:06.639
<v Speaker 2>that takes years, and some people are wakened to it

616
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:13.280
<v Speaker 2>faster and some slower. It's a real test, and it's

617
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<v Speaker 2>through meditation, study and what we call group service. There

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<v Speaker 2>are three aspects to group service. The first service is

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<v Speaker 2>service to your soul. That is number one, because your

620
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<v Speaker 2>soul holds your true purpose and your relationship to humanity.

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<v Speaker 2>So many people want to do so much for humanity

622
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:42.559
<v Speaker 2>but do nothing. By aligning to your soul, you are

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<v Speaker 2>not only helping yourself, you're helping the group. You're helping

624
00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:51.679
<v Speaker 2>the group that has not incarnated yet on the inner planes.

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00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Plus there's more to it. So the first service is

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<v Speaker 2>service to your soul if you're in a group. The

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00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:04.760
<v Speaker 2>second service is to the group, taking part and fulfilling

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<v Speaker 2>the functions of the group, doing the meditations to say,

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<v Speaker 2>so everybody in the group. There's different tiers, but at

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<v Speaker 2>each tier they all do the same meditation. One in

631
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<v Speaker 2>the upper tier will do a certain type of its

632
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<v Speaker 2>really contra and the one the second tier will be

633
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:25.840
<v Speaker 2>similar but not the same, and then the third will

634
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<v Speaker 2>be much different but fulfilling your group work studying we

635
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:40.960
<v Speaker 2>study the same books and coming to the group meetings regularly.

636
00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:43.599
<v Speaker 2>So like tomorrow is full moon, we have a full

637
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:47.760
<v Speaker 2>moon meditation. I rent a tai chi place. We usual

638
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<v Speaker 2>get about twenty people in the group that come. And

639
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<v Speaker 2>the third service is to humanity. But I'm not rich,

640
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:01.400
<v Speaker 2>nobody in the group. Well, who's lady. She may be rich,

641
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know yet, but she's very new. But a

642
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:08.559
<v Speaker 2>person who's very wealthy can use their money to do

643
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:12.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot. Usually people who have a lot of wealth

644
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:17.880
<v Speaker 2>don't do a lot except for themselves. So through doing

645
00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:22.880
<v Speaker 2>step number one service to your soul and the group work,

646
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:27.639
<v Speaker 2>you are serving humanity. For instance, there was a story

647
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:31.039
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember the exact name, that there was this yogi,

648
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:36.840
<v Speaker 2>a great Lamas, and this villager found them sitting on

649
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:41.719
<v Speaker 2>these rocks, and so the villager ran down to the

650
00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:45.360
<v Speaker 2>village and said, there's a saint meditating on these rocks

651
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:47.760
<v Speaker 2>on the near the top of the mountain. So the

652
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:51.920
<v Speaker 2>whole village comes up there, and you know, they bow down,

653
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:55.360
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. And they say to them, oh, great Yogi,

654
00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:58.320
<v Speaker 2>please come to our village, will feed you, We'll give

655
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:01.599
<v Speaker 2>you a temple you can bless us and look after us.

656
00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:06.280
<v Speaker 2>And the Yogi opens his eyes and says, why from

657
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:16.320
<v Speaker 2>here I bless the world. So there are different degrees, okay,

658
00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:25.119
<v Speaker 2>and different purposes in this particular group work. We've been

659
00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:30.000
<v Speaker 2>very fortunate in Northern School to be blessed by several

660
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:36.519
<v Speaker 2>masters and aligned and given teachings that are not in

661
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:41.000
<v Speaker 2>the books. And the trouble is is there's a cost

662
00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:46.000
<v Speaker 2>to all that, not a dollar costs, but a cost

663
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:50.840
<v Speaker 2>of creating that inner balance and discipline. There was one

664
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<v Speaker 2>lady in the group, very young lady, and she's a

665
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:57.679
<v Speaker 2>bit wild, even though she has a very good corporate job.

666
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:03.880
<v Speaker 2>But she resisted, stuck with the group, but resisted discipline,

667
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:06.440
<v Speaker 2>but eventually came to the point where she had to

668
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:10.400
<v Speaker 2>be disciplined. Then she finally said to me, now I

669
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:15.360
<v Speaker 2>understand discipline. It creates order and harmony in your life.

670
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:19.719
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was restrictive. It's not restrictive. It actually

671
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:26.280
<v Speaker 2>it creates freedom because now I understand myself. I understand

672
00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:30.119
<v Speaker 2>my urge is how things function, and now my life

673
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:36.199
<v Speaker 2>is ordered. Everything works better. I'm much happier and interesting enough.

674
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:42.239
<v Speaker 2>She started getting more promotions. Everything started to change, and

675
00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I always told her, if you're aligned to the inner

676
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:48.280
<v Speaker 2>ash ramp in this particular case, with our group of

677
00:45:48.360 --> 00:45:53.599
<v Speaker 2>the masturocracy, they look after these the external for you.

678
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:58.199
<v Speaker 2>When I was working, I'm retired now I would get

679
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:03.760
<v Speaker 2>promotion stuff. I never asked. They just came because my

680
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:09.639
<v Speaker 2>focus was always my esoteric work. And for a time

681
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:13.079
<v Speaker 2>I was traveling across North America for the company. I

682
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:17.880
<v Speaker 2>worked for a Texas oil company, small offshoot but here

683
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:22.280
<v Speaker 2>in Canada, so I'm all over, but I'd still get

684
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.840
<v Speaker 2>up earlier before meetings, meditate back to the hotel, do

685
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:30.760
<v Speaker 2>my meditation at my books, have a traveling altar, etc.

686
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:39.239
<v Speaker 2>So did my job and everything works out good. And

687
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:41.639
<v Speaker 2>it seems to do that with most of the individual

688
00:46:41.840 --> 00:46:44.599
<v Speaker 2>I can say almost all the individuals in the group,

689
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:49.800
<v Speaker 2>because then you're aligned to a higher purpose, so the

690
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:56.639
<v Speaker 2>secondary purpose is taken care of. Doesn't make it easier

691
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:01.480
<v Speaker 2>It just works that way because you never know what's

692
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:06.360
<v Speaker 2>going to happen. But the esoteric work is not easy.

693
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:12.960
<v Speaker 2>One of the most difficult things people want. They talk

694
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:18.719
<v Speaker 2>about liberation. In our group, we're not interested in liberation

695
00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:23.079
<v Speaker 2>or nirvana or any of that ah or peace or

696
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:29.599
<v Speaker 2>even peace in that respect. What happens is that you

697
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:35.079
<v Speaker 2>become aware of your past lives, and with your past lives,

698
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:39.000
<v Speaker 2>you find that there's karmic links, what they call ripening

699
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:44.199
<v Speaker 2>karma between you and other members. This karma has to

700
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:48.440
<v Speaker 2>be worked out, and that takes a lot of effort,

701
00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:53.519
<v Speaker 2>cleaning the slate, so to speak. You become aware of

702
00:47:53.559 --> 00:48:00.760
<v Speaker 2>it in your inner meditation. In my second book, Writings,

703
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:04.840
<v Speaker 2>my wife wrote a chapter on I love the name

704
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:09.519
<v Speaker 2>of it, but I forget it. Sometimes I think it's

705
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:14.400
<v Speaker 2>let's see if I can find it. Basically pass Oh.

706
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:18.159
<v Speaker 2>Here it is lives I've lived and the people I

707
00:48:18.199 --> 00:48:23.880
<v Speaker 2>can't get away from because it all repeats. And she

708
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:28.079
<v Speaker 2>goes through because she sees the past lives of many

709
00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:30.840
<v Speaker 2>of the individuals in the group, and she only names

710
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:37.239
<v Speaker 2>a few of them. Fascinating. A few years ago we

711
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:42.920
<v Speaker 2>were in Vienna, my wife and I traveling, and she

712
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:46.239
<v Speaker 2>decided to go for a walk, and I was I

713
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:51.480
<v Speaker 2>meditate longer than she does. And she went for a walk,

714
00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:53.239
<v Speaker 2>and then she didn't come back for some time. A

715
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:57.199
<v Speaker 2>little worried to find she came back and she said

716
00:48:57.239 --> 00:49:00.400
<v Speaker 2>she ran into this building. Saw this building. As soon

717
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:04.480
<v Speaker 2>as she saw it, she almost passed out because she

718
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:07.800
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden remembered she being a little girl

719
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:13.440
<v Speaker 2>there and the Nazis coming and taking her family. Right,

720
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:19.559
<v Speaker 2>chilling experience. And so there was a little church across

721
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:22.559
<v Speaker 2>the road. She wanted to go in this church, but

722
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:25.840
<v Speaker 2>a voice told her no, she had to enter in

723
00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:28.599
<v Speaker 2>the building. It had a little courtyard because it was

724
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.639
<v Speaker 2>very old, and they had it was refurbished, but they

725
00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:35.400
<v Speaker 2>still had the old court and sit and meditate and

726
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:40.400
<v Speaker 2>look at it. That's the oldcult is the warrior, not

727
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:46.360
<v Speaker 2>to run away, but to face it right. Didn't see.

728
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:54.559
<v Speaker 2>We have many experiences like that. Funny experience. Give another

729
00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:57.920
<v Speaker 2>example it's a little different. My wife and I were

730
00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:01.880
<v Speaker 2>in Puerto Rico, and I don't know if you've ever

731
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.239
<v Speaker 2>been to Puerto Rico, but there's a really old fort there.

732
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:10.000
<v Speaker 2>I think it's the oldest fort in North America, built

733
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:13.840
<v Speaker 2>in seventeen hundreds or something by the Spanish there a

734
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:17.159
<v Speaker 2>long time ago. It's a museum now, of course. So

735
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:20.639
<v Speaker 2>we're wandering through this place and we sort of get separated.

736
00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:23.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm reading the history of it. She comes running to me.

737
00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:28.400
<v Speaker 2>She says, there's this ghost that's been chasing me. It

738
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:31.519
<v Speaker 2>looks like a pirate. And I said, well, did you

739
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:36.639
<v Speaker 2>try chanting? He says, somehow it's not working. So I

740
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:41.400
<v Speaker 2>focus on a particular deity that can destroy all ghosts.

741
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:47.960
<v Speaker 2>And she said, oh, it's running away. I didn't see it,

742
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:50.719
<v Speaker 2>but I could feel she could see it's running away.

743
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:55.079
<v Speaker 2>It looked like Captain Morgan on the rum whiskey bottle.

744
00:50:56.840 --> 00:51:02.519
<v Speaker 2>So you go places and all these things happen, you know,

745
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:03.760
<v Speaker 2>so it makes things.

746
00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:07.079
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I was gonna say about your You were telling

747
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:10.760
<v Speaker 5>us before about your cave experience. I had a similar

748
00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:12.840
<v Speaker 5>experience when I was in Bali. I was just laying

749
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:14.840
<v Speaker 5>in bed and on the compound.

750
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:15.760
<v Speaker 4>There was like nobody there.

751
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:17.280
<v Speaker 5>It was just me, and all of a sudden, there

752
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:20.079
<v Speaker 5>was this huge whoosh that just like ran into the door,

753
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:22.480
<v Speaker 5>and I heard stomping on the roof, and in my

754
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.280
<v Speaker 5>mind's eye, I saw this bowl with this ring in

755
00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:28.559
<v Speaker 5>its nose, and so I did my chanting, and I

756
00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:30.480
<v Speaker 5>just because I was freaked out, but I was like,

757
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:32.480
<v Speaker 5>don't give it my energy, don't give it my fear.

758
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:35.039
<v Speaker 4>I'm just gonna chant. I'm gonna call myself and like it.

759
00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:35.519
<v Speaker 4>You know.

760
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:38.639
<v Speaker 5>Obviously didn't bother me or anything like that, but it

761
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:41.960
<v Speaker 5>was pretty wild. And your experience with the cave reminded

762
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:42.400
<v Speaker 5>me of that.

763
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:44.280
<v Speaker 4>The cave story.

764
00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:47.960
<v Speaker 2>That's very good, and that's very common in those islands.

765
00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:51.119
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of what we call left hand path

766
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:57.760
<v Speaker 2>magic and Bali and Jim Jaikar is in Indonesia. Yeah,

767
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:01.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, so give an example. Also, Oh, poor my

768
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:04.239
<v Speaker 2>poor wife, because she's so psychic. We're in the Valley

769
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:08.320
<v Speaker 2>of the Kings in Egypt and this is in my book,

770
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:14.239
<v Speaker 2>and we went back to our hotel and all of

771
00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:17.679
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, she becomes very erratic. She actually gets up

772
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:22.039
<v Speaker 2>and starts to run out of the hotel room. I'm saying, sweetie,

773
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.800
<v Speaker 2>what's going on? I don't know, Well, you sit down,

774
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:30.639
<v Speaker 2>we're better meditate. So she's just, you know, we're gonna

775
00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:32.960
<v Speaker 2>run out in the street without money, without her purse.

776
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:36.840
<v Speaker 2>What's going on? So I sit down and I invoke

777
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:39.599
<v Speaker 2>one of the masters. Actually the master is known as

778
00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:46.920
<v Speaker 2>kh and he comes instantly and he says, I can't

779
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:51.079
<v Speaker 2>deal with this, but this Egyptian master will come and

780
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:55.920
<v Speaker 2>deal with it. And instantly, this Egyptian, ancient Egyptian master

781
00:52:56.320 --> 00:53:00.800
<v Speaker 2>who's maybe three or four thousand years old. And my

782
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:03.280
<v Speaker 2>wife ends up lying down on the bed and she

783
00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:06.639
<v Speaker 2>felt like he put her a vacuum in her in

784
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:11.440
<v Speaker 2>her and pulled out some negative entities that had entered

785
00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:13.800
<v Speaker 2>her in the Valley of the Kings. She said, it

786
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:17.239
<v Speaker 2>was like an occult surgery. Then she felt better, but

787
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:22.079
<v Speaker 2>she had arrest, just like after surgery. So you know

788
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:24.880
<v Speaker 2>that's in the book, so things like that. But that

789
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:28.119
<v Speaker 2>is not the ocult path. But as you make progress,

790
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:33.199
<v Speaker 2>you run into this, you become enter into these inner

791
00:53:33.239 --> 00:53:37.519
<v Speaker 2>worlds and you have to learn how to protect. My

792
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:40.559
<v Speaker 2>job is protecting most of the individuals in the group.

793
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:45.920
<v Speaker 2>When something happens, then I'm allowed to invoke these masters,

794
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:50.199
<v Speaker 2>and some of the other individuals now can also invoke them.

795
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:55.159
<v Speaker 2>But all of our knowledge and some of our esoteresi

796
00:53:55.320 --> 00:53:59.719
<v Speaker 2>stays within what we call the inner ashroom or group

797
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:03.119
<v Speaker 2>and the ashram on the inner plane that we belong to.

798
00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:05.840
<v Speaker 2>But what I put in the books is to help

799
00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:09.840
<v Speaker 2>individuals who want to go deeper, to give them some

800
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:14.880
<v Speaker 2>examples of experiences that are possible, but also with the

801
00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:20.960
<v Speaker 2>teaching that can go deeper. In India, there's an ancient,

802
00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:28.039
<v Speaker 2>ancient teaching called the Four Videos. If you read Blavatsky

803
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:31.760
<v Speaker 2>The Secret Doctor, and it's mentioned it's mentioned in Alice

804
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Bailey books Treaties and Cosmic Fires that there are four videos.

805
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:44.920
<v Speaker 2>One is called Maha VideA Guya Vidya, and just forgot

806
00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:49.000
<v Speaker 2>the third one Yajna Vidya. But then there is a

807
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:56.079
<v Speaker 2>fourth and synthesizing video called Atma VideA. Maha VideA is

808
00:54:56.119 --> 00:55:01.960
<v Speaker 2>the magics, the knowledge of the inner magic. Guya Vidya

809
00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:06.480
<v Speaker 2>is the knowledge of the sacred sounds. Yadjna Vidya is

810
00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:10.079
<v Speaker 2>the knowledge of rituals. And now everything involved with rituals

811
00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:15.559
<v Speaker 2>Atmavidia blends them all. And that's the core of the

812
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:19.400
<v Speaker 2>teaching that I give. It's called Atmavidia. We have a mandela.

813
00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:22.480
<v Speaker 2>And that's what I got from my teacher, was the

814
00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Atmavidia teaching. And about six seven years ago the Master

815
00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:37.280
<v Speaker 2>kh appeared to me and told me that I had

816
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:41.639
<v Speaker 2>to go to the Theosophical Society. Well, I hadn't been

817
00:55:41.679 --> 00:55:45.119
<v Speaker 2>to the Theosophical Society in thirty or forty years, and

818
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:49.199
<v Speaker 2>I've avoided it like the plague. To me, the Theosophical

819
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:56.119
<v Speaker 2>Society is a state of comatose agreed except for the libraries.

820
00:55:56.679 --> 00:55:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Except for the libraries, there's nothing there. I even went

821
00:55:59.880 --> 00:56:05.960
<v Speaker 2>to a thing eventually in Wheaton, Illinois, and I'm so disappointed. Anyways. Anyways,

822
00:56:06.480 --> 00:56:09.360
<v Speaker 2>so I didn't want to go, but the Master suggested it,

823
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:12.000
<v Speaker 2>and I discussed it with my wife, and I went.

824
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:16.480
<v Speaker 2>And for about six or seven months, it was like torture.

825
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I knew some of the people from ages ago. I

826
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:31.679
<v Speaker 2>just knew that they just weren't anywhere. But slowly I

827
00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:34.599
<v Speaker 2>was able to start my own little group, and then

828
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:40.039
<v Speaker 2>my students started to arrive, and at a certain point

829
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:45.239
<v Speaker 2>I left again with the group. And now it's been

830
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:50.199
<v Speaker 2>a year and change and we're functioning just find away

831
00:56:50.239 --> 00:56:53.280
<v Speaker 2>from the Theosophical Society. The only thing I miss is

832
00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:58.320
<v Speaker 2>in Toronto. They have a fabulous library. But you know,

833
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:06.079
<v Speaker 2>by listening to the inner command or suggestion from the Master,

834
00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:11.360
<v Speaker 2>by following it, then everything happened. And I hadn't heard

835
00:57:11.360 --> 00:57:13.800
<v Speaker 2>from him for a long time, and then he came again.

836
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:18.599
<v Speaker 2>After I left the Theosophical He said, to go online.

837
00:57:18.800 --> 00:57:21.599
<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of difficulty. I'm a lot older,

838
00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:25.840
<v Speaker 2>not used to it. I'm adjusted. It's been a couple

839
00:57:25.880 --> 00:57:28.880
<v Speaker 2>of years now that are doing online, getting better. But

840
00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:34.760
<v Speaker 2>things are happening because follow this inner suggestion. What a

841
00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:37.199
<v Speaker 2>lot of people don't realize is sometimes you get these

842
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:43.360
<v Speaker 2>inner suggestions, but then another using a Gurdjeth term, group

843
00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:47.280
<v Speaker 2>of eyes come up and say, is that real? Is

844
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:49.280
<v Speaker 2>that right? Should I do that?

845
00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:50.840
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

846
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:55.079
<v Speaker 5>I haven't liked that often where I'm just I know,

847
00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:57.719
<v Speaker 5>it's hard to distinguish some times, like is that somebody

848
00:57:57.960 --> 00:57:59.559
<v Speaker 5>trying to get in my head to get me to

849
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:00.480
<v Speaker 5>do something and go.

850
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:01.760
<v Speaker 4>Somewhere, you know what I mean?

851
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Like?

852
00:58:03.119 --> 00:58:05.519
<v Speaker 4>Or is this actually something I need to be doing?

853
00:58:05.800 --> 00:58:10.280
<v Speaker 2>I run into that exactly. So that's what they call

854
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:16.679
<v Speaker 2>viveka in Sanskrit's spiritual discrimination. Give another example. In my car,

855
00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:20.360
<v Speaker 2>I was working at a time, zipping along the highway, probably

856
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:23.480
<v Speaker 2>at about eighty miles an hour. We have high higher

857
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:26.559
<v Speaker 2>speed limits here anyway. Now, all of a sudden, there's

858
00:58:26.559 --> 00:58:28.800
<v Speaker 2>this force that comes through me and says I have

859
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:33.519
<v Speaker 2>to be an Indian two months, what how am I

860
00:58:33.519 --> 00:58:36.119
<v Speaker 2>going to arrange that? And then the thought was this

861
00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:39.760
<v Speaker 2>real and I supposed to go here, go this particular place,

862
00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:43.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, and all the doubts came up. But I

863
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:50.119
<v Speaker 2>went and I had some amazing changes that occurred that

864
00:58:50.280 --> 00:58:52.519
<v Speaker 2>helped me. They come and you.

865
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:57.119
<v Speaker 5>Ended up in Bali too, was the exact same thing

866
00:58:57.119 --> 00:58:59.840
<v Speaker 5>I had. One month it was like, I'm going to

867
00:58:59.880 --> 00:59:01.840
<v Speaker 5>go Bali and I was like, all right, if the

868
00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:04.880
<v Speaker 5>ticket comes, if everything folds, I'll go. And it was

869
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:08.039
<v Speaker 5>like within a month and it was very similar experience

870
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:12.280
<v Speaker 5>to that. The most magical things happen and it is

871
00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:12.880
<v Speaker 5>it is interesting.

872
00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Must have past life there too. M h yeah, So

873
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:20.599
<v Speaker 2>that gives a bit of an idea. I don't know

874
00:59:20.599 --> 00:59:22.360
<v Speaker 2>if you have any questions. I've been rambling.

875
00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:27.559
<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, let's I would do. I'm interested on how well.

876
00:59:28.039 --> 00:59:31.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean, so your space, your space and your school

877
00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:34.000
<v Speaker 3>is in Toronto, and so if people wanted to look

878
00:59:34.039 --> 00:59:37.000
<v Speaker 3>more into it, they would have to go to Toronto

879
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:41.159
<v Speaker 3>to then be trained or learn or what does what

880
00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:43.400
<v Speaker 3>does that kind of look like to be able to go,

881
00:59:43.920 --> 00:59:46.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, figure out if somebody is in a good

882
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:47.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, you know.

883
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:52.960
<v Speaker 2>What I mean, so that they can go online. And

884
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:57.000
<v Speaker 2>that's why I have Esoteric Talks twice a month, so

885
00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I have people. I have a student in Los Angele

886
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Angela's somewhere in Illinois, several other states. I forget Brooklyn,

887
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:13.000
<v Speaker 2>somebody in Brooklyn. So most of them except for one,

888
01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:22.039
<v Speaker 2>are moving slower. But I can recognize when someone may

889
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:25.000
<v Speaker 2>be ready to take a next step or something like that.

890
01:00:25.719 --> 01:00:28.719
<v Speaker 2>So there's the online, there's Esoteric Talks, and then on

891
01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:32.599
<v Speaker 2>the following the next coming Friday, we have a book

892
01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:38.440
<v Speaker 2>study online and we're just finishing up letters on ocult Meditation,

893
01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:44.079
<v Speaker 2>which is such an excellent book in direction meditation, and

894
01:00:44.119 --> 01:00:48.400
<v Speaker 2>then we're going to move to another book by March seventeenth.

895
01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:54.760
<v Speaker 2>I believe the Initiations and the Rays again an Alice

896
01:00:54.800 --> 01:00:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Bailey book. But I'll point something out. The Alice Bailey

897
01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:02.599
<v Speaker 2>books are really good. They're deeper than most people understand

898
01:01:03.519 --> 01:01:08.800
<v Speaker 2>because there have the influence of a master, so they

899
01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:11.960
<v Speaker 2>reach and they have different levels. And the master d

900
01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:18.679
<v Speaker 2>Kay who wrote through I mean used Alice Bailey, even

901
01:01:18.760 --> 01:01:23.599
<v Speaker 2>points it out that he uses blinds and until you're ready,

902
01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:27.639
<v Speaker 2>you can miss a great deal. But because of the

903
01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:31.480
<v Speaker 2>difficulties you have to blend other teachings, so we use

904
01:01:31.719 --> 01:01:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Alice Bailey number one certain aspects of the Gurdjev teaching

905
01:01:38.679 --> 01:01:46.320
<v Speaker 2>used in search for the miraculous and psychological commentaries. We

906
01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:53.559
<v Speaker 2>do Wadriyana Buddhism, but focus a lot on the one

907
01:01:53.639 --> 01:01:58.280
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand songs of Millarepa. In his songs he hid

908
01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:04.000
<v Speaker 2>the teachings. And we also really focus on the Yoga

909
01:02:04.079 --> 01:02:10.039
<v Speaker 2>sutras of Pentanguli because there you have the delineation first

910
01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:14.920
<v Speaker 2>of meditation from the level of pratihara to withdraw, then

911
01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:20.159
<v Speaker 2>drana what is meant by oh callt focusing, and then

912
01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:25.880
<v Speaker 2>diana which is real meditation, and then to samadi what

913
01:02:26.199 --> 01:02:30.079
<v Speaker 2>is samadi and how you move from one plane to

914
01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:36.679
<v Speaker 2>the next plane. Plus it talks about the psycho the

915
01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:42.320
<v Speaker 2>motion of the psychology of the mind, which are called ritti.

916
01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:47.679
<v Speaker 2>Everything that exists in this universe is in motion, nothing

917
01:02:47.840 --> 01:02:53.800
<v Speaker 2>is still. Thus you have to understand motion. Motion is

918
01:02:53.840 --> 01:03:01.000
<v Speaker 2>based on three factors Thomas, Rajas and Satfa Thomas's slow

919
01:03:01.159 --> 01:03:07.519
<v Speaker 2>thick dull motion, Rojas fast quick motion and Sepha harmonious motion.

920
01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:11.880
<v Speaker 2>How to move your mind and to change the ritis

921
01:03:12.280 --> 01:03:15.880
<v Speaker 2>the motion what they call the modifications of the mind.

922
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:21.519
<v Speaker 2>So we synthesize all that, throwing a little bit of Egyptian,

923
01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:24.599
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of Kabbalah once in a while. But

924
01:03:24.679 --> 01:03:26.679
<v Speaker 2>I use the Tree of Life to show that it

925
01:03:26.719 --> 01:03:30.840
<v Speaker 2>blends with the Hindu teaching exactly. And there's a secret

926
01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:37.039
<v Speaker 2>that they call the Buddhist Kulled Kabbala, which is very hidden,

927
01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:41.679
<v Speaker 2>and it blends also with the Tree of Life. Also

928
01:03:41.840 --> 01:03:45.199
<v Speaker 2>based on the number eleven. The Tree of Life is

929
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:48.000
<v Speaker 2>ten plus dot off, which is eleven.

930
01:03:48.239 --> 01:03:53.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the hidden yes, so I oh, sorry, I have

931
01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:58.239
<v Speaker 3>a question. What So it's fascinating that you use so

932
01:03:58.360 --> 01:04:01.559
<v Speaker 3>you kind of use Bailey's word, but then at the

933
01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:03.960
<v Speaker 3>same time use other works because of certain things. What

934
01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:06.159
<v Speaker 3>do you say to people who come and ask you

935
01:04:06.199 --> 01:04:09.760
<v Speaker 3>about the controversy about Alice Bailey, especially because if she

936
01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:13.039
<v Speaker 3>was not really well liked by Annie Bessent and the

937
01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:14.239
<v Speaker 3>Theosophical Society.

938
01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:19.320
<v Speaker 2>I've never had anybody even know about Annie Besson's.

939
01:04:21.039 --> 01:04:24.719
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, nice, I mean nice. That's the first thing

940
01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:27.199
<v Speaker 3>I think of is because Alice Bailey is a lot

941
01:04:27.199 --> 01:04:29.960
<v Speaker 3>of people think that she was like somebody who deeply

942
01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:34.079
<v Speaker 3>pushed the New Age movement with a lot of her

943
01:04:34.079 --> 01:04:37.960
<v Speaker 3>books and teachings, and especially there's controversy and conspiracy about

944
01:04:37.960 --> 01:04:40.719
<v Speaker 3>her having a space in the un which is kind

945
01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:42.719
<v Speaker 3>of why I made a joke about it earlier. Is

946
01:04:43.719 --> 01:04:46.079
<v Speaker 3>there's there's just there's conspiracies about it, and so I

947
01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:48.800
<v Speaker 3>just wonder, how like how you deal with those types

948
01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:51.280
<v Speaker 3>of things. Doesn't it so nice?

949
01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:53.599
<v Speaker 2>Good things most of the people never heard of become

950
01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:56.159
<v Speaker 2>the young people. I have one now, she's twenty seven.

951
01:04:56.239 --> 01:04:59.519
<v Speaker 2>She had never heard of these things, but she's drawn

952
01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:04.440
<v Speaker 2>to metic right, which is nice. You know, I'm pretty

953
01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:06.880
<v Speaker 2>up in all those things, or he used to be,

954
01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:10.360
<v Speaker 2>because my teacher he excelled in the knowledge of that,

955
01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:14.480
<v Speaker 2>and he used to tell me these stories about the

956
01:05:14.519 --> 01:05:20.280
<v Speaker 2>ts et cetera and everything. But I judged the teaching,

957
01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:25.480
<v Speaker 2>not the personality. Even Milarepa and other great teachers said,

958
01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:29.199
<v Speaker 2>you can find faults with the Buddha if you really

959
01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:32.440
<v Speaker 2>want to try and find it. But it's the teaching

960
01:05:32.599 --> 01:05:36.920
<v Speaker 2>that counts, not the personality. It's only if the personality,

961
01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:41.039
<v Speaker 2>like a Trumpa, is drinking and doing whatever he's doing.

962
01:05:41.079 --> 01:05:46.480
<v Speaker 2>And for instance, in Pennsylvania there forget what it's called.

963
01:05:46.559 --> 01:05:50.079
<v Speaker 2>But years ago I went to an ashram there and

964
01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:55.280
<v Speaker 2>it was run by Swami Rama. Yeah, so I have

965
01:05:55.440 --> 01:05:57.920
<v Speaker 2>no idea. We read a book by him, and my

966
01:05:58.159 --> 01:06:00.440
<v Speaker 2>teacher was going on a business trip to New York.

967
01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:04.920
<v Speaker 2>I was drive to Pennsylvania. Then I'll go from Pennsylvania

968
01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:06.880
<v Speaker 2>to New York, pick him up and we drive home

969
01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:11.199
<v Speaker 2>together instead of flying it anyway. So I go and

970
01:06:12.840 --> 01:06:15.880
<v Speaker 2>when I get there, I end up coming late. They

971
01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:19.360
<v Speaker 2>send me to the dining room. Everybody's eating, there's one

972
01:06:19.559 --> 01:06:23.400
<v Speaker 2>chair available, and I sit next to this lady. I

973
01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:26.960
<v Speaker 2>have a little bit of a conversation finished, and I'm tired.

974
01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I go back to my room twenty or thirty minutes

975
01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:35.039
<v Speaker 2>laters and knock on my door. I open it. There's

976
01:06:35.079 --> 01:06:39.480
<v Speaker 2>this lady. She said, when we were talking, you said

977
01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:40.960
<v Speaker 2>you're going to New York in a day or so.

978
01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:43.639
<v Speaker 2>I said, yeah, can you take me with? I have

979
01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:50.199
<v Speaker 2>to escape this place. So why wow, I'm an accountant here.

980
01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:53.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm one of the counts that helped run the ashram.

981
01:06:54.119 --> 01:06:58.039
<v Speaker 2>And one day when Swami Rama was in India and

982
01:06:58.079 --> 01:07:01.079
<v Speaker 2>he was coming back, he asked if I would pick

983
01:07:01.159 --> 01:07:04.000
<v Speaker 2>him up at the airport. And that's a great blessing.

984
01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:08.000
<v Speaker 2>It's a darsh On. It's all this emotion. So she

985
01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:11.199
<v Speaker 2>picked him up. As they're coming back towards the ashroom,

986
01:07:11.239 --> 01:07:12.840
<v Speaker 2>he says, I don't want to go to the ashram yet.

987
01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:18.039
<v Speaker 2>I want to cool. Let's go to a motel. And

988
01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:24.599
<v Speaker 2>she a young, very attractive, very busty lady. Okay, let's go.

989
01:07:24.679 --> 01:07:27.880
<v Speaker 2>I guess he just he starts watching TV and smoking.

990
01:07:29.840 --> 01:07:36.679
<v Speaker 2>Then he raped her when he died. I read in

991
01:07:36.719 --> 01:07:41.719
<v Speaker 2>the New York Times there was numerous lawsuits by women

992
01:07:41.800 --> 01:07:46.039
<v Speaker 2>against him. When I went to meet him the next day,

993
01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:50.840
<v Speaker 2>and then I left with this lady. But I asked him, well,

994
01:07:50.840 --> 01:07:54.079
<v Speaker 2>what do you think of the Alice Bailey teachings and

995
01:07:54.119 --> 01:07:59.039
<v Speaker 2>the oh garbage nonsense. He was so arrogant, and yet

996
01:07:59.840 --> 01:08:02.760
<v Speaker 2>he was idolized by people across the United States and

997
01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:07.480
<v Speaker 2>in Canada. He came to Canada. So there are so

998
01:08:07.599 --> 01:08:12.400
<v Speaker 2>many of these false gurus. It's so unfortunate. And he

999
01:08:12.519 --> 01:08:15.679
<v Speaker 2>was a big name. His ashram was beautiful in the Poconos.

1000
01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:21.359
<v Speaker 2>It was huge. And so I took that lady and

1001
01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:27.439
<v Speaker 2>took her home. I don't know if that stories in

1002
01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:33.359
<v Speaker 2>my book might be, but I ran into things like

1003
01:08:33.399 --> 01:08:38.119
<v Speaker 2>that all all over Trumpa being the case and other case. Yeah,

1004
01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:42.199
<v Speaker 2>few others, but there was good ones. The like the

1005
01:08:42.319 --> 01:08:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Zen School in Rochester with Philip Keplo. He's a good guy.

1006
01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:49.840
<v Speaker 2>He died quite a while ago, but he had good school.

1007
01:08:50.319 --> 01:08:52.319
<v Speaker 2>He was a good guy. You know. He didn't play

1008
01:08:52.359 --> 01:08:58.359
<v Speaker 2>around or he was odd. But yeah, it's like a.

1009
01:08:58.279 --> 01:09:02.439
<v Speaker 5>True character thing, can't You always have to see yourself,

1010
01:09:02.680 --> 01:09:04.439
<v Speaker 5>you know, And that's what I always run into, Like

1011
01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:06.760
<v Speaker 5>with everything going on in the world, people will do

1012
01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:08.800
<v Speaker 5>what they do. They're the only ones that ever have

1013
01:09:08.880 --> 01:09:11.920
<v Speaker 5>to live with those consequences fully, you know, and if

1014
01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:14.720
<v Speaker 5>that's what feels good to their soul, I.

1015
01:09:14.640 --> 01:09:18.920
<v Speaker 4>Guess right, But yeah, you pay the karma exactly.

1016
01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:21.279
<v Speaker 5>It's like, if that's what you really want to karmaly

1017
01:09:21.279 --> 01:09:23.079
<v Speaker 5>live by, it's your choice.

1018
01:09:23.479 --> 01:09:25.199
<v Speaker 2>So one thing you have to look at if you're

1019
01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:30.720
<v Speaker 2>a spiritual teacher, say you go, you rob a bank, right,

1020
01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:33.720
<v Speaker 2>you get caught, you go to jail. But that's related

1021
01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:40.399
<v Speaker 2>to matter. You screw with the souls of others, you're

1022
01:09:40.439 --> 01:09:45.960
<v Speaker 2>creating a different type of karma. You become a deceiver

1023
01:09:46.279 --> 01:09:51.199
<v Speaker 2>of souls what they called in Greece the bousseries, the Deceivers.

1024
01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Those as one Yogi and he was connected to the

1025
01:09:54.920 --> 01:10:00.439
<v Speaker 2>United Nations. Shri chimoy I will take you, Believe me,

1026
01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:03.199
<v Speaker 2>and I will be the boat that will carry you

1027
01:10:03.680 --> 01:10:07.119
<v Speaker 2>to the other shore. Believe in me. It's the perfect

1028
01:10:07.119 --> 01:10:11.119
<v Speaker 2>words of a soul deceiver, which he was, you know,

1029
01:10:11.359 --> 01:10:16.079
<v Speaker 2>so you have to be careful. I think about it

1030
01:10:16.119 --> 01:10:19.640
<v Speaker 2>all the time when I'm dealing with my students. Am

1031
01:10:19.640 --> 01:10:24.439
<v Speaker 2>I doing it correctly? Am I helping their soul? How

1032
01:10:24.439 --> 01:10:28.600
<v Speaker 2>to be kind, gentle, humble and yet teach and have

1033
01:10:28.680 --> 01:10:34.720
<v Speaker 2>a certain firmness and give correct knowledge? So you don't

1034
01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:38.239
<v Speaker 2>want them going whoa, because it has happened. I have

1035
01:10:38.359 --> 01:10:43.760
<v Speaker 2>met people that have gone loony. The Tibetans in the

1036
01:10:43.880 --> 01:10:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Deeper Esoteric Wadihana said. Wadriana is like a two headed

1037
01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:53.840
<v Speaker 2>snake in a bamboo pole. Once head up from one down,

1038
01:10:53.880 --> 01:10:55.399
<v Speaker 2>you either go one way or the other.

1039
01:10:57.359 --> 01:10:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Anybody have any other questions before I ask them something?

1040
01:11:01.479 --> 01:11:04.840
<v Speaker 1>No one thing I did want to ask you service. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I might wrap it up after this. What's

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01:11:10.159 --> 01:11:13.079
<v Speaker 1>the biggest misconception you think people have about the Deeper

1043
01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Esoteric path? And what's the truth you wish they'd accept early?

1044
01:11:18.439 --> 01:11:24.279
<v Speaker 2>That's not an easy question. A lot of people are

1045
01:11:24.359 --> 01:11:29.680
<v Speaker 2>under the impression I can do it. But the deeper

1046
01:11:29.920 --> 01:11:34.000
<v Speaker 2>esoteric path there is. The eye has to be thinned out.

1047
01:11:35.079 --> 01:11:39.079
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I teach about the essence. We usually

1048
01:11:39.159 --> 01:11:43.479
<v Speaker 2>have because we've worked. I worked in corporate world. I

1049
01:11:43.560 --> 01:11:47.880
<v Speaker 2>was also an art teacher. But you build your eye.

1050
01:11:48.359 --> 01:11:55.880
<v Speaker 2>I am a salesman, I am a bricklayer. I am

1051
01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:59.279
<v Speaker 2>what is a doctor? That's an eye and it's big.

1052
01:11:59.720 --> 01:12:02.399
<v Speaker 2>Look how many people when they retire, how much difficulty

1053
01:12:02.479 --> 01:12:06.039
<v Speaker 2>they have because that eye can't function anymore. I'm no

1054
01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:09.840
<v Speaker 2>longer the plumber. I have to sit around my house

1055
01:12:09.880 --> 01:12:14.640
<v Speaker 2>and continually fix the kitchen sink because you identify with

1056
01:12:14.760 --> 01:12:19.600
<v Speaker 2>that eye that is the biggest thing, and it takes

1057
01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:24.199
<v Speaker 2>a long time to break that eye down. To realize that.

1058
01:12:24.239 --> 01:12:29.279
<v Speaker 2>One has to learn surrender to these higher forces that

1059
01:12:29.399 --> 01:12:32.279
<v Speaker 2>you are being guided and taken, and that's not easy

1060
01:12:32.359 --> 01:12:37.640
<v Speaker 2>to do. Therefore, people like the taro or some of

1061
01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:43.279
<v Speaker 2>these other more pseudo ocult things because their eye enjoys

1062
01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:47.960
<v Speaker 2>throwing the cards and assumes that they're helping other people.

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01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:54.680
<v Speaker 2>I was an astrologer for a while, and I had

1064
01:12:54.720 --> 01:13:02.439
<v Speaker 2>to stop because people will expecting the stars to give

1065
01:13:02.520 --> 01:13:05.840
<v Speaker 2>them the stamp of approval. One of the last charts

1066
01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:08.479
<v Speaker 2>I did. This lady came in. I did the chart,

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01:13:09.479 --> 01:13:11.600
<v Speaker 2>looked at it and said, holy cow, and I know

1068
01:13:11.720 --> 01:13:15.720
<v Speaker 2>her and her husband because we work in the same company.

1069
01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:19.520
<v Speaker 2>She's going to leave her husband. It's right there, holy cow.

1070
01:13:20.199 --> 01:13:22.800
<v Speaker 2>But I can't tell her that I don't have the right.

1071
01:13:23.880 --> 01:13:26.760
<v Speaker 2>So she kept pushing me about her marriage. I said, well,

1072
01:13:26.880 --> 01:13:31.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, difficulties this and that. You know, you can

1073
01:13:31.319 --> 01:13:34.520
<v Speaker 2>try and patch it up. She left her husband two

1074
01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:37.399
<v Speaker 2>weeks later. It was there, and I wasn't going to

1075
01:13:37.479 --> 01:13:40.279
<v Speaker 2>tell her to give her the stamp of approval of

1076
01:13:40.399 --> 01:13:45.920
<v Speaker 2>her Gemini rising with whatever. That was the last chart

1077
01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:48.680
<v Speaker 2>I really did. I do some just to see I

1078
01:13:48.720 --> 01:13:52.760
<v Speaker 2>know some esoteric astrology that's not in books that I

1079
01:13:52.800 --> 01:13:57.079
<v Speaker 2>was taught. And I looked for certain types of conjunctions

1080
01:13:57.119 --> 01:14:02.399
<v Speaker 2>and with fixed stars and tell me some things about

1081
01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:06.680
<v Speaker 2>an individual, especially if there's danger of a certain nature

1082
01:14:06.840 --> 01:14:12.640
<v Speaker 2>of individuals that's hidden. But that's not in any books,

1083
01:14:12.680 --> 01:14:17.239
<v Speaker 2>and I never shared it, still won't. My teacher was

1084
01:14:17.279 --> 01:14:22.680
<v Speaker 2>an amazing astrologer. He looked every day to see conjunctions

1085
01:14:22.720 --> 01:14:28.520
<v Speaker 2>and everything to see what different beings connected on the

1086
01:14:28.560 --> 01:14:34.479
<v Speaker 2>inner astroplanes would be affecting him. Because of this, people

1087
01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:39.039
<v Speaker 2>think what happens is on the outside. I told people

1088
01:14:40.720 --> 01:14:44.279
<v Speaker 2>three or four years ago Trump was re elected, he's

1089
01:14:44.439 --> 01:14:48.239
<v Speaker 2>animated by a destroyer, A huge destroyer is using it,

1090
01:14:48.399 --> 01:14:52.199
<v Speaker 2>and he will be destructive. I wrote that people weren't interested,

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01:14:52.359 --> 01:14:53.479
<v Speaker 2>but it's come true.

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01:14:56.920 --> 01:14:57.520
<v Speaker 6>No, who was?

1093
01:14:59.359 --> 01:14:59.479
<v Speaker 3>No?

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01:14:59.560 --> 01:14:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Who was?

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01:15:01.199 --> 01:15:01.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're not.

1096
01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:04.640
<v Speaker 6>Now what was it? What did he say?

1097
01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:08.159
<v Speaker 1>Barack Obama was a horrible president. You've say to somebody

1098
01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:10.479
<v Speaker 1>it was winny toe. You saw clips about how he

1099
01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:12.640
<v Speaker 1>was shitting on somebody else saying that if they had

1100
01:15:12.640 --> 01:15:14.640
<v Speaker 1>to go to war with Iran, it showed that they

1101
01:15:14.640 --> 01:15:17.520
<v Speaker 1>were shitty and couldn't just strike a deal.

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01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:20.399
<v Speaker 6>So I guess I guess he just told on himself.

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01:15:20.439 --> 01:15:20.840
<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

1104
01:15:24.960 --> 01:15:27.479
<v Speaker 2>John Stewart said a couple of cool things the other

1105
01:15:27.600 --> 01:15:32.039
<v Speaker 2>day where he showed Trump saying we obliterated their nuclear program,

1106
01:15:32.680 --> 01:15:34.560
<v Speaker 2>and then what was that a couple of months ago,

1107
01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:39.560
<v Speaker 2>and now we're saying, well, we've got it destroyed. John

1108
01:15:39.600 --> 01:15:44.079
<v Speaker 2>Stewart's pretty good anyways. But you know, if people are

1109
01:15:44.119 --> 01:15:48.319
<v Speaker 2>interested in my book or my website, more than happy.

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01:15:48.760 --> 01:15:51.359
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, let everybody know about those again, please.

1111
01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:55.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so esoteric writings. Teaching for the Current Age has

1112
01:15:55.439 --> 01:15:57.880
<v Speaker 2>quite a bit about the masters in it. At the beginning,

1113
01:15:59.119 --> 01:16:03.199
<v Speaker 2>my wife wrote Another Lady about Past Lives, but I

1114
01:16:03.399 --> 01:16:07.520
<v Speaker 2>put in a lot of teachings both gurd Jeff also

1115
01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:11.319
<v Speaker 2>a couple of essays. There were talks by my teacher.

1116
01:16:13.319 --> 01:16:18.720
<v Speaker 2>My first book has more of my experiences, like the

1117
01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:21.000
<v Speaker 2>one I talked to you guys about in the cave.

1118
01:16:21.239 --> 01:16:24.039
<v Speaker 2>I had a few others. I don't know, if there's time,

1119
01:16:24.039 --> 01:16:26.479
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you my favorite story, how I got

1120
01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:30.239
<v Speaker 2>kicked out of the largest city in India, escorted by

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01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:31.399
<v Speaker 2>the police.

1122
01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:35.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, you can't not tell us that, No.

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01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:41.479
<v Speaker 2>I'll do it really quickly. Calcutta's probably twenty or thirty

1124
01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:45.680
<v Speaker 2>million people. They can't count them. There's so many people.

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01:16:46.319 --> 01:16:48.840
<v Speaker 2>My teacher told me to go to this place called

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01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:53.199
<v Speaker 2>Blure Moth, which is in a suburb of Calcutta called Hayworth,

1127
01:16:54.600 --> 01:16:57.840
<v Speaker 2>and it's a temple complex created. You may have heard

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01:16:57.880 --> 01:17:02.600
<v Speaker 2>of Vivakananda. He's very well known. He was a disciple

1129
01:17:02.680 --> 01:17:03.720
<v Speaker 2>of Rama Krishna.

1130
01:17:04.039 --> 01:17:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the Raja Yoga he's we study is right now.

1131
01:17:06.680 --> 01:17:10.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that book Raja Yoga. I have it too. Anyways,

1132
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:14.800
<v Speaker 2>So he said, they may be a little difficult there,

1133
01:17:14.840 --> 01:17:17.800
<v Speaker 2>but try and stay there. It's huge place. So I

1134
01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:21.840
<v Speaker 2>went went into the office, came out to the desk

1135
01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:26.079
<v Speaker 2>and excuse me, but and then, what do you want? Well,

1136
01:17:26.079 --> 01:17:29.720
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to stay here. I studied everything about Rama Krishna.

1137
01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:33.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm vegetarian and meditate blah blah blah. They just looked

1138
01:17:33.319 --> 01:17:36.479
<v Speaker 2>at me and said, no, well, my teacher stood here

1139
01:17:36.479 --> 01:17:39.960
<v Speaker 2>a long time ago. No he can't stay. Well, you

1140
01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:44.159
<v Speaker 2>know I really want to. I'm here now, I can

1141
01:17:44.239 --> 01:17:49.479
<v Speaker 2>donate money. No, so I just sat down right there

1142
01:17:49.520 --> 01:17:52.880
<v Speaker 2>on the floor and started meditating. I did not move.

1143
01:17:54.640 --> 01:17:58.720
<v Speaker 2>That freaked them out. So after a while I still

1144
01:17:58.720 --> 01:18:02.640
<v Speaker 2>hadn't moved. A man came in a swami rope, you

1145
01:18:02.680 --> 01:18:06.960
<v Speaker 2>know those orange ropes. Excuse me, sir, I'm the manager

1146
01:18:07.199 --> 01:18:10.479
<v Speaker 2>in this area. What would you like? Why don't you

1147
01:18:10.479 --> 01:18:13.840
<v Speaker 2>come into my office? Went to his private office, told

1148
01:18:13.880 --> 01:18:15.760
<v Speaker 2>him that I wanted to stay there. He said, no,

1149
01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:21.000
<v Speaker 2>you can't, So I just started meditating again. He walked

1150
01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:24.039
<v Speaker 2>out of the office. A few minutes later came out, Okay,

1151
01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:28.920
<v Speaker 2>the head of the monastery will meet you. Why don't

1152
01:18:28.920 --> 01:18:32.720
<v Speaker 2>you come with me? Sure, So it's a long walk

1153
01:18:33.439 --> 01:18:35.800
<v Speaker 2>and we're walking. We come to a group of buildings

1154
01:18:35.800 --> 01:18:37.680
<v Speaker 2>and I could see a courtyard and there's a guy

1155
01:18:37.720 --> 01:18:41.800
<v Speaker 2>that has one of those naval desks, those huge, big

1156
01:18:41.840 --> 01:18:47.159
<v Speaker 2>wooden desks, big fat swan. Anyways, we walk right by

1157
01:18:47.239 --> 01:18:49.760
<v Speaker 2>him and I could tell that's the guy. Why aren't

1158
01:18:49.760 --> 01:18:52.399
<v Speaker 2>we going there? So they take me to this porch

1159
01:18:52.520 --> 01:18:56.319
<v Speaker 2>that's overlooking the Ganges River and he says, you sit

1160
01:18:56.399 --> 01:19:00.560
<v Speaker 2>here and wait. So I fold up my feet and

1161
01:19:00.800 --> 01:19:05.319
<v Speaker 2>sit in meditation post and continue to meditate. Finally, somebody

1162
01:19:05.359 --> 01:19:09.399
<v Speaker 2>taps me on my knee and they have lunch for

1163
01:19:09.439 --> 01:19:14.720
<v Speaker 2>me and a traditional Indian metal tray with veggies and

1164
01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:19.840
<v Speaker 2>very nice. So I eat. I go back meditating, and

1165
01:19:19.880 --> 01:19:23.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm meditating. Then all of a sudden, I go into

1166
01:19:23.359 --> 01:19:27.399
<v Speaker 2>a state of Samadi. That means I enter into a

1167
01:19:27.479 --> 01:19:30.960
<v Speaker 2>higher state of a field of blue I can only

1168
01:19:30.960 --> 01:19:37.680
<v Speaker 2>call a blueness where I'm an independent thought of individuality.

1169
01:19:38.520 --> 01:19:42.560
<v Speaker 2>There's no cyrus, but I could see my future in

1170
01:19:42.600 --> 01:19:46.199
<v Speaker 2>the deity and the direction. And here I'm at in

1171
01:19:46.199 --> 01:19:51.199
<v Speaker 2>a Hindu place, said I'm Buddhist and that I had

1172
01:19:51.239 --> 01:19:56.399
<v Speaker 2>to follow this particular line of Buddhism. This is before

1173
01:19:56.479 --> 01:20:00.279
<v Speaker 2>the masturocracy and everything. So I had no idea. Okay,

1174
01:20:00.319 --> 01:20:04.279
<v Speaker 2>So I come down off of that and I'm still meditating.

1175
01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:06.479
<v Speaker 2>Then beside me there's a wall and there's a knock

1176
01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:11.319
<v Speaker 2>and I open my eyes. There's a policeman. But he

1177
01:20:11.359 --> 01:20:15.399
<v Speaker 2>introduced I'm the captain, chief of police for this area.

1178
01:20:15.560 --> 01:20:19.119
<v Speaker 2>He has all of his medals on. He's in full regalia.

1179
01:20:20.680 --> 01:20:23.239
<v Speaker 2>What do you want. I want to stay here. It's

1180
01:20:23.279 --> 01:20:27.039
<v Speaker 2>really nice. I don't think that's possible, I said, let

1181
01:20:27.079 --> 01:20:31.119
<v Speaker 2>me think. So. He's very polite, actually more polite than

1182
01:20:31.119 --> 01:20:34.560
<v Speaker 2>the swamis. He goes down. There's a bathing gat and

1183
01:20:34.600 --> 01:20:38.840
<v Speaker 2>he sits down in the bathing gat and I meditate

1184
01:20:38.880 --> 01:20:41.399
<v Speaker 2>a bit, and then I realized I achieved what I

1185
01:20:41.399 --> 01:20:45.560
<v Speaker 2>had come for. I now know my direction. The future

1186
01:20:45.720 --> 01:20:49.439
<v Speaker 2>was shown and out my eyes I can see smoke

1187
01:20:49.560 --> 01:20:51.520
<v Speaker 2>coming out of the gat. And I go down and

1188
01:20:51.520 --> 01:20:54.439
<v Speaker 2>sit beside him. He says, okay, I'll leave, but I

1189
01:20:55.800 --> 01:21:01.680
<v Speaker 2>want a train, a first class ticket from Calcutta to Chennai,

1190
01:21:02.239 --> 01:21:06.399
<v Speaker 2>which is like twelve hundred miles or more. So he says,

1191
01:21:06.399 --> 01:21:10.680
<v Speaker 2>follow me, go ahead. His jeep is there. So this

1192
01:21:10.760 --> 01:21:15.760
<v Speaker 2>is nineteen seventy seven. He has a full walkie military

1193
01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:20.279
<v Speaker 2>walkie talkie. Gets on the walkie talkie. There's no cell

1194
01:21:20.279 --> 01:21:23.399
<v Speaker 2>phones or anything like that. Hey, hop in the jeep,

1195
01:21:23.439 --> 01:21:25.800
<v Speaker 2>we'll go. We get to the train station. I have

1196
01:21:25.840 --> 01:21:30.159
<v Speaker 2>a first class ticket, put into a first class cabin.

1197
01:21:33.640 --> 01:21:38.319
<v Speaker 2>There's a big guy sitting on the chair opposite. Because

1198
01:21:38.319 --> 01:21:40.560
<v Speaker 2>it's it's like a big room. I can hold four

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01:21:40.600 --> 01:21:44.000
<v Speaker 2>people in the first class. Always say to him, are

1200
01:21:44.039 --> 01:21:45.960
<v Speaker 2>you going to Chennai too? He says no, I'm just

1201
01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:52.239
<v Speaker 2>supposed to stay here so you don't jump off. So

1202
01:21:53.920 --> 01:22:00.119
<v Speaker 2>I got an escort out of Calcutta. He was huge.

1203
01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:03.359
<v Speaker 2>And that's in my first book, in this Living on

1204
01:22:03.399 --> 01:22:06.600
<v Speaker 2>the Enerage. But it also has a section on meditations

1205
01:22:06.640 --> 01:22:10.960
<v Speaker 2>how to do them. It has some very cool diagrams

1206
01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:17.199
<v Speaker 2>that you won't find anywhere that are stuff like this.

1207
01:22:22.640 --> 01:22:25.960
<v Speaker 2>One is a zen from the saut Zung is a

1208
01:22:26.159 --> 01:22:31.039
<v Speaker 2>zen sect. Another one's written based on how mantra functions

1209
01:22:31.319 --> 01:22:35.199
<v Speaker 2>from the logos down to the personality drawn by my teacher.

1210
01:22:36.039 --> 01:22:39.399
<v Speaker 2>And there's quite a number of those. I didn't put

1211
01:22:39.439 --> 01:22:44.279
<v Speaker 2>them in my new book, but there's the total of

1212
01:22:45.239 --> 01:22:54.000
<v Speaker 2>what it's called. The great work has a lot of

1213
01:22:54.039 --> 01:22:58.640
<v Speaker 2>sanscrit though, but shows our human psychology from an esoteric

1214
01:22:58.720 --> 01:23:03.319
<v Speaker 2>point of view, so cool stuff like that. My other

1215
01:23:03.359 --> 01:23:07.199
<v Speaker 2>book has more pictures. I don't know if I can

1216
01:23:07.239 --> 01:23:10.520
<v Speaker 2>find it fast enough. But one of the paintings I

1217
01:23:10.520 --> 01:23:14.079
<v Speaker 2>did of the Masters, I know it's at the front

1218
01:23:14.079 --> 01:23:18.880
<v Speaker 2>of the book somewhere. I never find it when I

1219
01:23:18.880 --> 01:23:19.800
<v Speaker 2>want to show people.

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01:23:22.720 --> 01:23:23.920
<v Speaker 3>I know. Isn't that how it works?

1221
01:23:23.960 --> 01:23:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Though?

1222
01:23:24.119 --> 01:23:26.279
<v Speaker 3>You're like, I remember this amazing thing. Where is it?

1223
01:23:26.840 --> 01:23:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah?

1224
01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:33.399
<v Speaker 3>And where can people buy these books?

1225
01:23:34.079 --> 01:23:41.840
<v Speaker 2>So Amazon, of course, okay, you on your website because

1226
01:23:42.439 --> 01:23:43.720
<v Speaker 2>it's not self published.

1227
01:23:43.960 --> 01:23:45.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, okay.

1228
01:23:45.960 --> 01:23:48.479
<v Speaker 2>My first book didn't sell as well. It was a

1229
01:23:48.479 --> 01:23:52.359
<v Speaker 2>British publisher, so he didn't do my second book. I

1230
01:23:52.439 --> 01:23:57.079
<v Speaker 2>had to find someone else. He's out of England, access

1231
01:23:57.159 --> 01:24:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Mundy Publishing. But it's on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, maybe

1232
01:24:03.640 --> 01:24:10.640
<v Speaker 2>other places, et cetera. Still sells. I get notifications this

1233
01:24:10.680 --> 01:24:16.399
<v Speaker 2>one because it's a lot longer. It's three hundred and

1234
01:24:16.520 --> 01:24:19.319
<v Speaker 2>some odd or two three hundred I think, yeah, three

1235
01:24:19.399 --> 01:24:24.039
<v Speaker 2>hundred and sixty fifty pages. I published it in India

1236
01:24:24.439 --> 01:24:29.279
<v Speaker 2>through an Indian publishing company, but they're connected all over

1237
01:24:29.319 --> 01:24:33.239
<v Speaker 2>the world. Quality is not the same as in Britain,

1238
01:24:33.319 --> 01:24:34.479
<v Speaker 2>but it's cheaper.

1239
01:24:35.239 --> 01:24:37.479
<v Speaker 3>Nice iks, so.

1240
01:24:39.319 --> 01:24:44.720
<v Speaker 2>It's available. Oops. It has some interesting charts and more

1241
01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:51.479
<v Speaker 2>some diagrams. I get a whope chart like in theosophy

1242
01:24:51.560 --> 01:24:55.840
<v Speaker 2>of the first initiation, second initiation, third initiation. Biosha showed

1243
01:24:55.840 --> 01:24:59.439
<v Speaker 2>it in the gird Jeff terminology like third initiation as

1244
01:24:59.520 --> 01:25:05.359
<v Speaker 2>man numbers five and in the Hindu uh third initiation

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<v Speaker 2>as Maha yog and in Buddhism the sadak agra in.

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<v Speaker 2>So all this different terminology, same thing, type of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot to learn in it. And you

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<v Speaker 2>did all the writing, yes, except there's a yeah past

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<v Speaker 2>lives and one of my students also on their past lives.

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<v Speaker 3>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>The beginning is more stories of what the group is

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<v Speaker 2>doing now and the experiences with the masters and some

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<v Speaker 2>of the other beings that we have experiences with are

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<v Speaker 2>called nagas dragons that hold wisdom and knowledge and power.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, so, and I'm teaching.

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<v Speaker 2>But this has been fun. I've enjoyed the conversation.

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<v Speaker 6>Got stories for days too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could I could talk on I'm terrible.

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<v Speaker 6>Great.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we love stories. That's that's why we're here.

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<v Speaker 2>You never got around to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it the or the astrual paralysis or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. You said, yeah, next time, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>next time. We'll we'll talk about that one.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll bring that up first.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope to come back, Yes, definitely.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh for sure, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we're gonna wrap it up so I'll have

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else plug this stuff as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Judith, what is going on?

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<v Speaker 7>Once again? Thank you for having me, Cyrus. It was

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<v Speaker 7>a pleasure. We could go deep dive on several different topics.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sure to leave a bug in your ear. To

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<v Speaker 7>leave a bug in your ear is have you thought

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<v Speaker 7>about the similarities between Mott and your teachings.

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<v Speaker 2>Between Oh for sure. I have a whole Egyptian section.

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<v Speaker 2>We have an occult encyclopedia which we don't share, so

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<v Speaker 2>it has Buddhists, Hindu, Egyptian and other type of entities.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, she wants to talk about.

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<v Speaker 7>That's definitely a conversation I would love to have with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't share. I can share certain parts of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but other parts I can. My wife is very completely

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<v Speaker 2>understand that. Yeah, she has all these memories from ancient Egypts.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, well, uh and Brandon, my man, my man,

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<v Speaker 3>my man, Nick, Thank you so much as always love

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<v Speaker 3>doing this, love meeting new people. Sir. That was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>You are you are wise beyond your years as it

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<v Speaker 3>goes through. Your stories are amazing and we're gonna just

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have to have storytelling with with you the next time.

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<v Speaker 3>Just continue down these paths because we can learn so

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<v Speaker 3>much through the actual experience of people. And you've you've

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<v Speaker 3>travel you're so well traveled as well, and so I, uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate all those stories, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not wise beyond my ears because I think my

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<v Speaker 2>years have caught up to me.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not at all, not at all. No, you can

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<v Speaker 3>tell even though you got the glasses on, I can

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<v Speaker 3>tell your your eyes are young. You know that's the wisdom.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody, go over to Magas in the media. We'll be

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<v Speaker 3>dropping a bunch of videos this week. I've got doctor

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01:28:34.760 --> 01:28:38.119
<v Speaker 3>Heather Lynd's video finally dropping. It's a three hour banger.

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<v Speaker 3>We hit all the keys of Anu, Naki En, Lil

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01:28:41.600 --> 01:28:46.399
<v Speaker 3>and Anky all all the way to Epstein, Steve Bannon.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just we hit all the notes and she's got

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of knowledge to give. So everyone check out

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01:28:51.279 --> 01:28:54.960
<v Speaker 3>that tomorrow. It should be coming out. Just hit my Instagram,

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<v Speaker 3>my ex and just subscribe. I can chair because we're

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<v Speaker 3>trying to grow a community. I'm on the cult rejects.

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<v Speaker 3>There's nothing like being a reject, especially in the old cult.

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<v Speaker 3>Nick the Godfather, Grandmaster Cardinal Electric heading himself brilliant all

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<v Speaker 3>the time, so just make sure you're following everything he

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<v Speaker 3>does at all times. I give it up to him.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you Nick, as always.

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<v Speaker 6>I appreciate that, man. I love it. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you coming on and always asking great questions

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<v Speaker 1>in it and stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you and Kaivo what is going on? Thank you

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01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:25.039
<v Speaker 6>so much for making it today.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks for having me, and this is a wonderful conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>I really really enjoyed hearing everything that you're doing with

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01:29:30.960 --> 01:29:34.399
<v Speaker 5>your group in your book, Cyrus. It sounds fantastic. And

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<v Speaker 5>you all can find me at Kaivo Rose on Instagram

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01:29:38.279 --> 01:29:42.439
<v Speaker 5>and YouTube. I do weekly and daily astrology videos for everybody,

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01:29:42.640 --> 01:29:45.600
<v Speaker 5>also do personal readings and I also read Taro as well.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was wonderful to chat with you all.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks for having me, of course, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, yes yes, Cyrus, we already spoke to him.

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<v Speaker 1>I did want to give a shout out for the

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<v Speaker 1>super chats Howard eighty eight eighty eight, I mean that.

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<v Speaker 6>Was ridiculous, Thank you so much. Wow, yeah, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Tiffany eleven sent this a super chat as well,

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<v Speaker 1>so and I did want to thank Alan for hooking

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<v Speaker 1>us up with Cyrus.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have to thank you, sent him a thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's been more wrestling or something tonight.

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<v Speaker 6>So oh wow, okay, all right, nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Really into Marshall. I got them into martial arts, but

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01:30:26.279 --> 01:30:28.439
<v Speaker 2>they found that karate was hurting their knees, so.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great.

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<v Speaker 2>So him and his wife both do sumo and judo.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool where I did karate for forty years. I can

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<v Speaker 2>barely walk.

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<v Speaker 6>Kick some asshole if you have to.

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<v Speaker 2>But thank you very much. I enjoyed this a lot

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<v Speaker 2>and really appreciate all the nice questions and interest.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much, sir, and again, thank you all

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<v Speaker 1>the rejects for coming on the show and everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>the chat.

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<v Speaker 6>That is what's up. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where we go live and until the next one,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody be well later.