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Speaker 1: in the descriptions. It with Jesse on fire for a while,
Speaker 1: I get interview with you. You've been crushing it on YouTube.
Speaker 1: I just look at your page. I didn't realize how
Speaker 1: much you've grown. You were originally all m A content.
Speaker 1: Now you're splitting politically. Is that you're doing a little
Speaker 1: more political than MMA now?
Speaker 2: I yeah, I like.
Speaker 3: Uh. The plan always was to was to like kind
Speaker 3: of grow in a niche because it made them a
Speaker 3: lot easier, and then kind of branch into other things.
Speaker 3: Like it was actually more gradual than people think, just
Speaker 3: because I started covering things like, oh, Joe Rogan, he's
Speaker 3: connected to UFC.
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan did this, I can cover that, see brand.
Speaker 2: It was like that. And then because you have to start,
Speaker 2: you have to.
Speaker 4: Start kind of niche like that, especially be.
Speaker 1: I was fortunate to have kind of big name from fighting,
Speaker 1: but you kind of started from the ground up. And
Speaker 1: that's why I try to tell people out the podcast
Speaker 1: and well, don't go too wide.
Speaker 4: Even me.
Speaker 1: I'll do a guest and I'll totally bomb if they
Speaker 1: could be a big guest, but something that my audience
Speaker 1: isn't interested in, you have to get. So I'm branching
Speaker 1: out now, but you're finding what they like, what they don't.
Speaker 4: You don't want to overpease your audience.
Speaker 1: But you also, if you're running ship that's just bombing it,
Speaker 1: that kind of sucks too.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what it is, is just understanding your audience.
Speaker 3: And it's like uh, and then sometimes you can lead
Speaker 3: your audience too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 3: Once they're once they're interested in a topic like that's
Speaker 3: you know. One of the things that I've focused on
Speaker 3: is like, once there's a topic that I know that
Speaker 3: my audience cares about, like I'll drill that.
Speaker 2: I will keep coming back to that topic.
Speaker 1: I think your page and you're really covering the sas
Speaker 1: the Charlie Kirk stuff.
Speaker 4: This is something I've not looked into.
Speaker 1: You. I've been so busy right now, but both of
Speaker 1: the podcasts, you know how much time that takes. And
Speaker 1: also I have another bis of projects I don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about, you know, because I have a certain
Speaker 1: group of people that always go off my money. But
Speaker 1: I'm launching a couple of big business projects. So I've
Speaker 1: just been so busy having to keep up with the news. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so let's uh have you break that down for me.
Speaker 4: A little bit.
Speaker 3: Okay, So man, this is this is a long, convoluted story.
Speaker 3: So basically, when Charlie Kirk got shot, it obviously was
Speaker 3: such a massive kind of cultural moment because everybody saw
Speaker 3: it happen. Yes, like like there's never been an assassination
Speaker 3: like that where people saw a person.
Speaker 2: Get killed on screen like that, where.
Speaker 4: It was just like JFK. Was that live though?
Speaker 1: Or no, that's true though, that was not in our generation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not our generation. Yeah, yeah that's true. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean it was.
Speaker 1: It was shocking and jarring to someone like me. He
Speaker 1: was controversial, even though me and Charlie had our differences.
Speaker 1: We have hung out before we were I like, he's like,
Speaker 1: I like him. I thought he's he's like tall at
Speaker 1: six' three maybe or something. Taller i'm six. Foot he's
Speaker 1: definitely taller than.
Speaker 2: ME i thought he's like six six or six or
Speaker 2: five or some.
Speaker 1: Possible he was definitely taller than me and. Foot he
Speaker 1: was clearly taller than. Me but he was always, nice
Speaker 1: treated me. Good we had some, disagreements we were supposed
Speaker 1: to have a debate on a couple of very large
Speaker 1: podcasts that he turned. OUT i think he knew the
Speaker 1: position that he was.
Speaker 3: Defending they don't they don't like to platform the other
Speaker 3: the other, opinion even you know WHAT i, mean even
Speaker 3: if even if you're they think their guy's gonna, win
Speaker 3: they'd rather just not get the.
Speaker 1: Exposure Charlie kirk's a much better debate than. ME i,
Speaker 1: have NO i, Mean i'm Not i'm been in a,
Speaker 1: debate BUT i think the issue we were going to.
Speaker 1: DEBATE i had the facts and truth on my. Side,
Speaker 1: yeah so you, know and two hour. Debate that's kind
Speaker 1: of hard when you don't have truth on your.
Speaker 4: Side, yeah that's.
Speaker 3: True and like and you really don't want to have
Speaker 3: to face up against like like video clips of things
Speaker 3: and you're, like, hey what do you think about? That, like,
Speaker 3: hey what do you think about? That that's, it there's
Speaker 3: no you can't really debate around. This this is a,
Speaker 3: video you.
Speaker 4: Know, yeah BUT i think it's watching him.
Speaker 1: Live creators like me and, you they're controversial watching that
Speaker 1: and just Like jarring and SO.
Speaker 3: I actually so the way it happened for me WAS
Speaker 3: i so he got shot AND i was SO i
Speaker 3: immediately went on and live streamed all that it happened
Speaker 3: was there's a Report Charlie kirk has been. Shot SO
Speaker 3: i went on AND i was live, streaming and WHILE
Speaker 3: i was actually, live someone texted me the, like really
Speaker 3: graphic video that's the one THAT i saw while you
Speaker 3: were live WHILE i was, live and SO i saw
Speaker 3: it and like it was LIKE i literally saw it
Speaker 3: for the first time, live, yeah.
Speaker 2: And it was a lot of.
Speaker 1: Magic WHEN i saw, THAT i was in shock and
Speaker 1: thought it was, fake AND i went On, Twitter, YEAH
Speaker 1: i have MY i.
Speaker 3: Have my reaction like, live AND i just was like
Speaker 3: and because everybody was like there were reports that he
Speaker 3: had been, shot but he was.
Speaker 2: On his way to the hospital AND i AND i
Speaker 2: was was obvious that he.
Speaker 3: WASN'T i was, like, Guys i'm going to tell you right,
Speaker 3: now like he's not gonna make.
Speaker 4: It that WAS i was cold for saying. That it
Speaker 4: was very, clear very.
Speaker 1: Clear he was.
Speaker 3: Done, Yeah and then there was because SO i saw that,
Speaker 3: one and then there was the other one actually from
Speaker 3: the side angle THAT i ended up getting sent to
Speaker 3: me by a friend of the person who actually took
Speaker 3: the video and that. One also it's not as it's
Speaker 3: not as like, graphic but it was also very clear that, like,
Speaker 3: dude he's.
Speaker 4: Done he was, unfortunate but he was no type of.
Speaker 1: Stuff could see, that you, know, like, HEY i really
Speaker 1: Hope i'm, wrong But i'm almost.
Speaker 4: Hurt, yeah this guy is not going to make.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 4: Yeah there was reports that oh he might be, okay
Speaker 4: And i'm just, thinking.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's, yeah that's exactly WHAT i.
Speaker 3: SAID i was, LIKE i actually put a video out
Speaker 3: afterwards WHEN i was, LIKE i know they're saying that
Speaker 3: he's gonna be all, right he's, not like he's not.
Speaker 4: People who need like.
Speaker 1: Reality, yeah BUT i was JUST i finished a, podcast
Speaker 1: walked out my, phone opened the.
Speaker 4: Video and it was just like just.
Speaker 1: Jarred yeah THAT i sent out a, tweet like very sad,
Speaker 1: tweet you, know saying basically it's sad that he had
Speaker 1: died because to me it was obviously had died. Yea
Speaker 1: and THEN i tell people, saying, oh he's not, dead
Speaker 1: and other people attacked me like this guy's as eyeing
Speaker 1: as how could you put out? This that's just how
Speaker 1: sick could someone be to be angry at me for
Speaker 1: praying for his family and, stuff who had just been
Speaker 1: shot in front of his. CHILDREN i was just, like
Speaker 1: you're sick.
Speaker 3: People, Yeah and it's that was, man this this see
Speaker 3: this story caught like it is like literally they're like
Speaker 3: these epics since it. Happened and like the first epic for,
Speaker 3: me you, know he got shot and and then you,
Speaker 3: know found out he died kind of that's like What
Speaker 3: then the second phase was exactly what you were talking,
Speaker 3: about WHERE i couldn't believe That american there were like
Speaker 3: large groups Of americans that were so happy about.
Speaker 2: That he got, killed AND i, like you, KNOW i,
Speaker 2: know it was so, jarring it was.
Speaker 3: CRAZY i did a video so like the one that
Speaker 3: the first one THAT i saw that that kind of
Speaker 3: shock the.
Speaker 2: SYSTEM i did a video about that that went.
Speaker 3: Viral it was like When Harvey levin AT, tmz they
Speaker 3: had been covering it live and he's he's live stream you,
Speaker 3: know he's live, streaming and all of a sudden and
Speaker 3: he has someone in his, ear and all of a,
Speaker 3: sudden there's from a different, room there's this like huge
Speaker 3: group that started, cheering, Cheering YEAH tmz that were, cheering
Speaker 3: and Then harvey and then right Then Harvey levin, goes
Speaker 3: what's that and he's, like, okay Apparently Donald trump just
Speaker 3: put it up On True Social Charlie kirk has, died
Speaker 3: and so it was like we're talking like a large enough.
Speaker 2: Group that you could hear them in the, background and
Speaker 2: just the.
Speaker 1: Sickness, imagine imagine there was a left person that we,
Speaker 1: hated we wouldn't start.
Speaker 4: Cheering that's just.
Speaker 1: Sick maybe if it's Like Benjamin yacht who a war
Speaker 1: criminal or something like, that but like a Regular american
Speaker 1: and even IF i strongly disagree with, him chare of
Speaker 1: them getting executed in?
Speaker 3: Public, Yeah and that's it's, honestly the way that you
Speaker 3: frame that is insightful BECAUSE i have always like my
Speaker 3: contention is like what this app actually proves is the
Speaker 3: level with which the media has, dehumanized, uh the other
Speaker 3: side to where they because like this is, Okay so
Speaker 3: like if you find out there was there's that guy
Speaker 3: in THE uk recently who was in he was that
Speaker 3: rock star and he just got killed in prison because
Speaker 3: he was like this prolific child, rapist like like the most.
Speaker 4: Demented But i'm glad someone killed.
Speaker 3: Him, yeah someone killed him exactly, Right so like so
Speaker 3: that guy got. THAT i was, like, okay so that
Speaker 3: guy gets, killed everybody's, celebrating and you're, like of course
Speaker 3: this guy raped.
Speaker 1: Children that rapes children should be. Killed, yeah that's somewhere
Speaker 1: we should build all agree, on.
Speaker 2: Right and that's the point is they have been.
Speaker 3: Made they think That Charlie kirk was equivalent to a
Speaker 3: child rapist like. That that is where they're. At like
Speaker 3: they were, like these are they're not, like these are
Speaker 3: not evil. People they're just stupid and.
Speaker 4: Brainwashed they want us dead or in. JAIL i tried
Speaker 4: to help you with. That our, enemy you. Know, oh
Speaker 4: like the.
Speaker 1: Media it's funny demonstration in the. MEDIA i wonder who
Speaker 1: runs the media or ninety percent of, it, Dude and,
Speaker 1: YEAH i mean it's it's one small little group that
Speaker 1: those nivers in the media. TikTok they's got, Paramount Warner. Bros,
Speaker 1: disney pretty much, everything and they put this message of.
Speaker 3: Just hate out to us AND i don't, Know, yeah,
Speaker 3: WELL i think that this whole thing and a couple
Speaker 3: other things That i've seen recently demonstrates why they do,
Speaker 3: that because if you keep the two sides, divided like
Speaker 3: really really, divided they can never come together to make
Speaker 3: coherent change on. Anything and like the people who are in,
Speaker 3: power they've got things exactly where they want them to.
Speaker 1: Be like they have divided fighting left versus, Right democrat Versus. Republican,
Speaker 1: yeah it is scary though the amount of pure hatred
Speaker 1: they manage, it the fuel push. Too, yeah that shows, You,
Speaker 1: yeah the effects they've.
Speaker 2: Had SO i.
Speaker 3: DID i did a debate with some guys on modern
Speaker 3: day debate where they it was like which which the
Speaker 3: right or the left is more?
Speaker 2: Violent and so it was LIKE i WAS i was
Speaker 2: saying that the left is more.
Speaker 1: Violent and they were trying to, certainly and THE.
Speaker 2: I, MEAN i destroyed these.
Speaker 3: Guys but the, end the ALL i did IS i
Speaker 3: just waited AND i just talked them into where BECAUSE
Speaker 3: i knew i'd be able to get them to start saying,
Speaker 3: that like it's like that they they're fine with the
Speaker 3: conservatives getting, killed and SO i just walked him into
Speaker 3: it AND i was, like see you.
Speaker 2: LOOSE i was, like, hey you just.
Speaker 1: Lost, yeah we.
Speaker 4: Don't we don't want to go and kill.
Speaker 1: Liberals and only good example, is you, know look at
Speaker 1: all THE blm, Riots no one really went went to
Speaker 1: hard prison and we weren't really calling people to go
Speaker 1: to jail for like for hard. Prison maybe maybe he,
Speaker 1: burnt police should go to jail for six. Months january
Speaker 1: sixth people getting taken away from their children thirty years in. Jail,
Speaker 1: YEAH i think they got. PARDONED i interviewed a couple
Speaker 1: of these people and children And. Stuf can you imagine
Speaker 1: taking a man away from his children for thirty years
Speaker 1: because he walked in The capitol? Building, yeah well one
Speaker 1: guy was he got, there he got walked. In so
Speaker 1: these people literally want to kill you and put you
Speaker 1: in prison for. Life and, yes no one was held
Speaker 1: accountable for. That you, Know trump's giving people promotions that
Speaker 1: have done, that and it's Just january six was six
Speaker 1: was disgusting and we just like blow it over like
Speaker 1: it didn't.
Speaker 4: Happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah one of the things THAT i, had SO i
Speaker 3: Had Chris pihola as a and TIRED fbi.
Speaker 2: Agent he was he WAS i think he was like.
Speaker 3: Third he ran an entire, division so he like he
Speaker 3: reported to the deputy directory like he's a big deal
Speaker 3: and h and we recently talked at length about what's
Speaker 3: going on in THE fbi with Cash retell and all that,
Speaker 3: stuff and he said, that he, said the thing that
Speaker 3: that he doesn't, like that's that's, problematic is that they're
Speaker 3: going in there and they are doing these wide sweeps
Speaker 3: firing agents that were involved in different.
Speaker 2: Cases and he's with, us Like chris.
Speaker 3: Is he's aligned with, all but, uh and he was
Speaker 3: saying that these a lot of these people that are getting,
Speaker 3: purged they they're not, like they're not like. Conspirators they're just, like, hey,
Speaker 3: okay you're on this. Case you're on this. Case and
Speaker 3: now they're getting fired and losing their, pensions and it's.
Speaker 4: Like they're not firing the right people.
Speaker 3: Necessarily They're, yeah in some case they're not firing sometimes
Speaker 3: they're firing too many.
Speaker 2: People in other cases they're not firing the right.
Speaker 1: People and you, know whatever should the one the ones
Speaker 1: the like and the das and prosecutors and stuff that
Speaker 1: went for these crazy long. Sentences now some of the
Speaker 1: police were maybe just told to go and hunt these people.
Speaker 1: Down Like january, sixth that's the largest investigation IN fbi,
Speaker 1: history was that?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Yep by, far like this one of the most resources
Speaker 1: went to. This they're the amount of effort and time
Speaker 1: they put into that but if you were an agent
Speaker 1: that was handed in an, ASSIGNMENT i might give you
Speaker 1: a little bit of. Blame but the guy who chose
Speaker 1: to do, this that guy should be in prison for.
Speaker 1: Sure the prosecutors that put a man in jail for
Speaker 1: thirty year take away from his children for walking into
Speaker 1: The capitol, building that guy should be in jail one hundred.
Speaker 3: Percent and like anybody who was involved in the planning
Speaker 3: of that op that is like the craziest thing about
Speaker 3: it is what the official story was was that this
Speaker 3: group Of trump supporters were trying to overthrow the, government
Speaker 3: when in, reality the people who orchestrated it were trying
Speaker 3: to cool the democratic process and fabricate a reason to
Speaker 3: Get trump out of not only you, know like solidified
Speaker 3: that they had finished taking the twenty twenty, election but
Speaker 3: also deplatform him and take away his ability to run.
Speaker 3: Again you're, like, so you're it's like every other thing they.
Speaker 3: Do it's, like, oh so you're saying that these guys
Speaker 3: are trying to overthrow the government while you're trying to
Speaker 3: overthrow the.
Speaker 1: Government they had and then The feds were there instigating.
Speaker 1: It they won't release of the footage, still and that's
Speaker 1: why they get so mad at guys like The shaman
Speaker 1: dude because he just makes it In and here's a picture like,
Speaker 1: him an old, lady a bunch of, hippies and the
Speaker 1: guy carrying the. Podium it's a, mockery was, it because
Speaker 1: it's clearly wasn't people having a good time. Laughing, well
Speaker 1: they shouldn't have walked in, There but these guys weren't hardened.
Speaker 1: Criminals the gates were open and they walked in The Capitol.
Speaker 1: Hill and now they're trying to like just destroy these
Speaker 1: people's entires.
Speaker 4: Life, yeah and that and that is.
Speaker 1: Evil. Yeah you, know most of The Black Lives matter,
Speaker 1: PROTESTERS i don't think they deserve long person sences because
Speaker 1: they were just like following you, know maybe a few
Speaker 1: of the ones that really burned down police stable and
Speaker 1: stuff like.
Speaker 3: That, yeah if you lit a police station on, fire
Speaker 3: they can go to if you lit.
Speaker 1: Anything i'm still not say in thirty years, though like
Speaker 1: a couple of years or something for the worst of.
Speaker 1: Them but these people just shows the difference of how
Speaker 1: evil they. Are, hey, Guys i'm demonetized. Everywhere so if
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Speaker 2: They showed up.
Speaker 1: Right, now let's let's get This Charlie Hurric oh, yeah
Speaker 1: let's just, YEAH i get sidetracked you it's so much
Speaker 1: to talk.
Speaker 4: About, yeah because this is actually an issue THAT i
Speaker 4: don't have a opinion. On i've been too busy to follow.
Speaker 1: It AND i know it's one of those issues that
Speaker 1: IF i get stuck in, IT i can get LIKE
Speaker 1: i just can't.
Speaker 2: SEE i understand.
Speaker 4: Stuff SO i haven't dug dug down that rabbit hole.
Speaker 3: Yet, yeah but you, know just to top, off like
Speaker 3: the the, original it's just like the that dehumanization that
Speaker 3: they had that was that was like epic part.
Speaker 1: Two.
Speaker 4: Yeah then.
Speaker 3: They were also kind of at the same. Time they
Speaker 3: Arrested Tyler robinson and they said that he had acted.
Speaker 2: Alone so the guy he.
Speaker 3: So basically the official story is That Tyler, robinson who
Speaker 3: is a he was a Virgin mormon kid who six
Speaker 3: months prior had started a sexual relationship with a transgender
Speaker 3: furry like uh kid Named Lance twigs that he was living.
Speaker 2: With, okay so he was.
Speaker 4: A gay man pretending he was dating a.
Speaker 3: Girl, BASICALLY i honestly IT'S i think he or he
Speaker 3: got turned out by like someone who was you, know
Speaker 3: he's just.
Speaker 4: Like it's, bizarre you know there looked like a normal nice.
Speaker 4: Kids it's so, bizarre you.
Speaker 3: Know so, anyway so the official story is that he
Speaker 3: planned on his. Own he takes his his grandfather's. Rifle
Speaker 3: he goes and uh sneaks up onto the roof where
Speaker 3: he where he like assembles the, rifle uh and he
Speaker 3: Shoots Charlie kirk from that, position runs and jumps off the,
Speaker 3: roof and they captured that on. Tape another detail is
Speaker 3: that When Charlie kirk got, shot the question that was
Speaker 3: asked right, before you, know because they're asking. Questions this
Speaker 3: guy Named Hunter, kozak who is a person who had
Speaker 3: been on The Unfuck america tour With, destiny like He
Speaker 3: Unfuck America. Tour what they did is they Followed Charlie
Speaker 3: kirk's tour stops.
Speaker 2: And they would disrupt.
Speaker 3: Them they would do counter counter, events and they'd be,
Speaker 3: like you, know like their entire existence was.
Speaker 1: Like The Detroit Charlie kirk exactly.
Speaker 3: So and the guy who goes up and he asked the,
Speaker 3: question he, said he, said what do you what do
Speaker 3: you think about the the pers you know what the
Speaker 3: personercentage of like transgender violence that there is and And
Speaker 3: Charlie kirk asks, it he.
Speaker 2: Says including gang or knock gang boom gets.
Speaker 3: Shot so the last question was from An Unfuck america
Speaker 3: tour person who asked him about transgender violence when a
Speaker 3: transgender like activist shoots him right, Afterwards and When Hunter
Speaker 3: kozak started doing interviews, like he's like he's. Trying he's,
Speaker 3: like he's, like aren't we? Human he thinks he's an.
Speaker 3: Actor he's a bad. Actor I've i've been, SAYING i
Speaker 3: think very.
Speaker 1: BIZARRE i didn't realize that and it was a question about.
Speaker 1: Guns didn't realize there was something about TRANSGENDER i have
Speaker 1: had multiple death threats with the trans.
Speaker 4: People by the, way they are very. VIOLENT i have
Speaker 4: to take some of them. Seriously they are a.
Speaker 2: Very should always take death see your.
Speaker 4: Range you.
Speaker 1: KNOW i had a trainee come and try to trade
Speaker 1: at my. Gym but then in terms of this person
Speaker 1: was arranged psycho and trying to shoot people at a different.
Speaker 3: Gym geeze, Man, yeah, yeah that's but so when he
Speaker 3: started giving his interview and talking Because charlie had literally
Speaker 3: gotten shot ten yards in front of, him and there
Speaker 3: was subsequent to, that there was videos that came out
Speaker 3: Of Hunter coos act like like practicing his. Reaction so
Speaker 3: he's in the crowd walking around before the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Happened he's and he's going like this on his. Head
Speaker 3: and then When charlie got, shot he immediately went so
Speaker 3: they actually captured him like practicing what his reaction was
Speaker 3: going to. BE i Offered hunter kozact twenty thousand dollars
Speaker 3: to take a light detextra.
Speaker 2: Test he responded twenty thousand, dollars AND i was, like.
Speaker 1: This guy really rich or that's a good, chuck he,
Speaker 1: said like a college KID i would TAKE i would
Speaker 1: like twenty thousand, dollars And i'm doing pretty, decent But
Speaker 1: i'll take that twenty thousand.
Speaker 3: Dollars especially if you didn't do it, Right, like if
Speaker 3: you're not, involved why would you not take twenty k.
Speaker 4: To go do a polygraph improve you're?
Speaker 3: Innocent, Exactly so he publicly said he's, like he's, like,
Speaker 3: yeah he's like his exact response, was, UH i don't
Speaker 3: think anything's going to be good enough to satisfy the
Speaker 3: conspiracy theorist but for twenty, thousand, Yeah i'll do. It
Speaker 3: so IMMEDIATELY i, RESPONDED i was, like, well escrow the
Speaker 3: money in, advance so you know you don't have any
Speaker 3: concern about getting, Paid Like i'll pay the money in
Speaker 3: advance and if you.
Speaker 2: Take, account, YEAH i take.
Speaker 1: It. Yeah, yeah that's very. Important people doing, business by the,
Speaker 1: way pay attention to. This, yeah we'll get burned. Sometimes
Speaker 1: so maybe he'll put money IN esco account exactly the
Speaker 1: offer you.
Speaker 4: Money that's very. Important, yeah it's like sing that you were,
Speaker 4: legit that you're gonna do.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 3: YEAH i was, Like i'll escrow. It and then and
Speaker 3: then he just disappeared and we followed him, around followed,
Speaker 3: around we kept trying to hit him, up and just
Speaker 3: he just.
Speaker 2: Disappeared SO i don't know what that.
Speaker 1: Means but then and you put in the money, account
Speaker 1: that's proof that it's.
Speaker 4: There, yeah that's why it's so.
Speaker 1: Important people listening business and at least may him put
Speaker 1: like half the money or pay you off money for
Speaker 1: OUR astra account because so many people will.
Speaker 3: Get well escrow they should just put all of it.
Speaker 3: In because BECAUSE escroc, account what it means is you
Speaker 3: paid into an account with the terms that if this,
Speaker 3: happens then then the money gets, paid but if it, doesn't.
Speaker 2: Then you return the money to the person who.
Speaker 3: Paid so like it's just like when you're buying a,
Speaker 3: house you, know like the money goes into An escro
Speaker 3: account and then once the you, know then then they
Speaker 3: send the. Money so it's, like, Yeah i'm like with you,
Speaker 3: know if the kid takes the, Bollgraph i'll pay.
Speaker 2: Him the twenty. K BUT i, yeah, again he just.
Speaker 2: Disappeared and also his.
Speaker 3: Dad so remember when the thing happened On Jimmy Kimmel,
Speaker 3: show Where Jimmy kimmel was, like these maga people are
Speaker 3: trying to pretend that it wasn't a maga person that
Speaker 3: Shot Charlie kirk and it was a transgender.
Speaker 2: Radical.
Speaker 3: Yeah so and then and Then Jimmy kimmel had his
Speaker 3: show taken down for a, while, yep and they popped
Speaker 3: right back.
Speaker 4: Up.
Speaker 3: Yeah So Hunter kosek's father is a is an executive
Speaker 3: on The Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 2: Show so like, What, yeah it's.
Speaker 4: TRUE i haven't following any of. This, Yeah i'm glad
Speaker 4: that you're the perfect.
Speaker 1: Guy Happened it's like you would do it and then
Speaker 1: they were trying to Blame Nick quintez for a, minute
Speaker 1: and they tried it was you, know he did a
Speaker 1: great job of saying how sad it made him and
Speaker 1: like you even know their, arrivals like he did the right,
Speaker 1: thing showed his humanity. THERE i think that was a
Speaker 1: big win For nick.
Speaker 3: That, yeah oh, yeah and and like the groy the whole,
Speaker 3: thing oh yeah it, was but it was The gropers that.
Speaker 3: Shot and the reason that they were trying to do
Speaker 3: that is obviously because they they don't want the narrative
Speaker 3: that it's that it was like a personal the. Left
Speaker 3: but all they end up doing is they end up
Speaker 3: confusing the issue so much that everyone who's A democrat
Speaker 3: genuinely believe.
Speaker 4: IT i think STILL i read they believe.
Speaker 1: It And nick always preaches non, violent very very clear
Speaker 1: on on never doing. Violence he's one of the best that,
Speaker 1: like you, know don't do The violince.
Speaker 2: This almost got. Killed someone get into his house like In,
Speaker 2: chicago right and.
Speaker 1: Then by that cover of the news they literally someone
Speaker 1: came to he had already. Killed tell people at his
Speaker 1: door with a fucking gun trying to shoot.
Speaker 4: Him like these death threats are very. Real Charlie kirk getting.
Speaker 4: Shot that was like jarring to us controversial.
Speaker 3: Figures, yeah it's and, dude like we're not hard to
Speaker 3: find man like. People it's like like JITs people like
Speaker 3: he doesn't take like not hard to.
Speaker 2: Find, dude you know we're gonna end.
Speaker 4: Up i'm cutting this out of The, yeah, yeah let's
Speaker 4: not leave that. Review BUT i carry. GUN i go
Speaker 4: now and it's like always you have to take this ship.
Speaker 1: Seriously and it sucks that we have to worry about
Speaker 1: valid death. Threats you, KNOW i get them From Tranny's.
Speaker 1: Jews but, yeah, anyway let's get.
Speaker 2: Back, Yeah LIKE i.
Speaker 3: TRY i try to be fair to to, them LIKE
Speaker 3: i don't attack groups because, honestly like the the The
Speaker 3: Unfuck America tour is run by someone Named ze and she's,
Speaker 3: trans AND i like.
Speaker 2: DIDE I i've talked, her.
Speaker 4: She's SHE'S i don't hate.
Speaker 1: THEM i just don't want to push to my kids
Speaker 1: AND i don't want to play, it of, course and
Speaker 1: that's the thread line for, me And i'm very strong with.
Speaker 1: It and that's why you want to dress as a woman,
Speaker 1: Whatever But i'm not coming to like you're actually a.
Speaker 1: Woman fair, Enough i'll treat you this bac you treat
Speaker 1: me with.
Speaker 2: Respects.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah but like and and her AND i, Like
Speaker 3: she's when when we first got, INTRODUCED i was, LIKE
Speaker 3: i was, like, oh And i'm, LIKE i guess this
Speaker 3: is where we argue about whether trans you should compete in.
Speaker 2: Sports she's, Like i'm actually on your side on. That
Speaker 2: good For, YEAH i.
Speaker 1: Was, like and Like Blair white for, example that's the
Speaker 1: one of medy TIMES i hung out with and, like
Speaker 1: it's respectful, person you know, What, Like i'm not going
Speaker 1: to tell your, girl But i'll call you that around
Speaker 1: you because you're showing respectful and whatever. Exactly but, like,
Speaker 1: okay but only because you're showing. Respect i'm not gonnactually
Speaker 1: pretendin like your. Woman but because you agree with these,
Speaker 1: things WHATEVER i, GET i can fake it around. You,
Speaker 1: yeah as long as you know THAT i don't actually take.
Speaker 2: It, yeah of course you're, Like i'm not going to
Speaker 2: try to bang.
Speaker 4: You, yes, Exactly we're not having. Sex to be clear that.
Speaker 2: That's the only difference of HOW i treat dudes and.
Speaker 3: Girls but, anyway, so like the so The Hunter goes
Speaker 3: thing that was kind of like one thread and then.
Speaker 2: On the other.
Speaker 3: Side so, key, okay you know what let me rewind.
Speaker 3: To the fed's official story was that he went up
Speaker 3: on the. Roof he actually came to the school wearing one,
Speaker 3: outfit then he changed into another. Outfit he went up
Speaker 3: onto the, roof he assembled the gun. CAR i don't
Speaker 3: think that he changed. All this is their story that's
Speaker 3: in the charging. Documents it is very, strange to be.
Speaker 3: Clear to set my hypothesis up on the front. End
Speaker 3: WHAT i WILL i patently reject and do not believe
Speaker 3: at all is That Tyler robinson did this.
Speaker 1: Alone, like, no why do they say he changed To.
Speaker 2: It doesn't even make, Sense AND i THINK i think
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 4: Wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so and here's the other.
Speaker 3: Thing their, story the official story came together within forty eight,
Speaker 3: hours like so or thirty six. Hours, so like they
Speaker 3: put out a they put out a picture of the,
Speaker 3: suspect and this is a very, blurry murky photo that
Speaker 3: like could barely make anything. Out and they said That
Speaker 3: Tyler robinson's mother saw the photo and, SAID i think That's.
Speaker 1: Tyler he was wearing a disguise people their own, children
Speaker 1: and needed to do something.
Speaker 3: Terrible so the dad supposedly Called tyler and asked him
Speaker 3: to send a picture of the rifle that he, had
Speaker 3: because he had his grandfather's, rifle And Tyler robinson had
Speaker 3: supposedly stashed this rifle in this chicken, coop like right
Speaker 3: over the like across the parking. Lot Ian carroll went
Speaker 3: to that chicken, coop like he went there on. Site
Speaker 3: AND i asked, Him i'm, like, okay so if you were,
Speaker 3: in is this a hidden place.
Speaker 2: That he did?
Speaker 3: It And he's, like it's, hidden and So i'm, like
Speaker 3: so why would he like why would he hide it
Speaker 3: there instead of just like you, know it JUST i
Speaker 3: can't remember, exactly But.
Speaker 2: Ian carroll was, like doesn't make any sense that he
Speaker 2: would have hiden it.
Speaker 1: There, no hid it somewhere like really really, good not
Speaker 1: just kind of laid by a chicken.
Speaker 3: Coop or just or just take it apart and put
Speaker 3: it back in your, backpack because he supposedly took it
Speaker 3: in a.
Speaker 2: Backpack it's a thirty.
Speaker 3: Six it's a gigantic rifle that would not have fit
Speaker 3: in a backpack. Anyway it's not that doesn't look like
Speaker 3: it's down his pants or at least in the main.
Speaker 3: Picture so the way he would have gotten it. There
Speaker 3: there's huge problems there the way he would have assembled,
Speaker 3: it and still like and then the skull.
Speaker 4: Is a great, shot by the, Way, YEAH.
Speaker 3: I mean one hundred and forty yards like. Shot though it's,
Speaker 3: impossible but it's a good. Shot people were like a
Speaker 3: lot of real quick go want to add one?
Speaker 1: Thing as you're talking about The Tyler Robinson and BEFORE i,
Speaker 1: forget there was a picture of him next to A
Speaker 1: superman picture of The man Of. Steel and at the
Speaker 1: same time they started Calling charlie kirk The man Of
Speaker 1: steel because the bullet didn't go through his. Neck huh,
Speaker 1: yeah like the same day or the day, apart they
Speaker 1: had that picture of The man Of still and they,
Speaker 1: Go Charlie kirks The man of. Steell just what this
Speaker 1: is a small little quin that doesn't mean it doesn't mean.
Speaker 1: Much but when you start seeing lots of by, itself
Speaker 1: but when you start seeing lots lots of strange, things,
Speaker 1: yeah then they start me. Anymore, well there's so many different.
Speaker 3: Theories i'm kind of starting with what mine is Because
Speaker 3: i've done a mountain of. Research Hunter kozak is a
Speaker 3: big one THAT i focused on. Obviously the other, uh but,
Speaker 3: yeah the REASON i know that picture that you're referencing
Speaker 3: is because it was a picture Of Tyler robinson at
Speaker 3: a dairy queen or something looking all, calm and everybody's
Speaker 3: like man Of. Steel they're like that movie was out
Speaker 3: like six months, ago like or.
Speaker 2: Whatever it was like that that movie. Poster, yeah that's
Speaker 2: WHY i knew what you were talking.
Speaker 1: About that's right when they try calling the bulleting, yeah
Speaker 1: neck and the, miracle he's a man Of he's a
Speaker 1: man of. Steel, Yeah, like and the problem with that
Speaker 1: is like a picture of the man of.
Speaker 4: Steel, yeah a.
Speaker 2: Thirty six would go through quarter inch.
Speaker 1: Steel, Like i'm not a gun, guy So i'm not
Speaker 1: gonna claim to have knowledge in. This but everyone who's
Speaker 1: gun guys tell me.
Speaker 2: This yeah yeah. Yeah valhall OF vft the ONE i
Speaker 2: told you about this is his.
Speaker 3: Shirt, actually, uh he went out and did these tests
Speaker 3: and he shot a thirty six through through literally like
Speaker 3: quarter inch.
Speaker 2: Steel.
Speaker 3: Yeah and and then they have you, know those ballistic dummy.
Speaker 3: Heads they're they're like they're very they're really they're actually
Speaker 3: probably harder to get through because it's ballistic gel and
Speaker 3: thick and then the bone thick it blew the spine out,
Speaker 3: completely like it was like the fact that there's no exit,
Speaker 3: wounds perfect little.
Speaker 2: Punctures this is nothing like there's nothing. Here there's nothing
Speaker 2: there like rip through anyone's.
Speaker 3: Neck and it supposedly just hit him in the front and,
Speaker 3: then you know, whatever that.
Speaker 4: One audity can be.
Speaker 1: Explained but when we keep stacking round AND i think
Speaker 1: we're just getting, STARTED i don't want to get off.
Speaker 4: Subject but there's the magic bullet, theory which was THE.
Speaker 1: Jfk, yeah there's the man of man of still. Similarities
Speaker 1: they said that the magic bullet means it went like
Speaker 1: eight directions to the bullet.
Speaker 3: Because there definitely was only one. Shooter, yeah, exactly clearly
Speaker 3: is a. Lie but they but for his they said.
Speaker 3: That so the official story to explain why there was
Speaker 3: no exit wound was That charlie was sitting a little
Speaker 3: bit forward and the shot came like, this and so
Speaker 3: they said that it went through his neck and then
Speaker 3: hit his his spine and went straight down and took
Speaker 3: out like four or five of his. Vertebrae and you're,
Speaker 3: LIKE i think that doesn't seem To, oh everybody's just
Speaker 3: like it would have ripped through the, spine no, problems
Speaker 3: not seem.
Speaker 4: Likely.
Speaker 3: Yeah the only, way the only way That i've come
Speaker 3: up with that would where the thirty out six would
Speaker 3: not exit would be if they were load their own
Speaker 3: rounds and they put way less gunpowder in, it you,
Speaker 3: know or something. Like it's like you can affect, like you,
Speaker 3: know a low like a lower speed. Round but, like
Speaker 3: who would do that and?
Speaker 1: Why, like DOES i think one thing that's really strange by?
Speaker 1: Itself you could be like, okay but they keep.
Speaker 4: Coming they keep.
Speaker 1: Coming so, YEAH i know there's a light AND i
Speaker 1: haven't really looked into, it BUT i know there's still
Speaker 1: a lot more like pieces That i've.
Speaker 4: Seen, Yeah so.
Speaker 3: Like so So Tyler robinson then he he you, know
Speaker 3: he leaves a gun there and then he uh you,
Speaker 3: know goes, away and then his uh, so his, dad
Speaker 3: his dad asked to see the rifle and And tyler
Speaker 3: just stops responding to his, dad, supposedly so then the
Speaker 3: parents like corner him at his house and supposedly he breaks,
Speaker 3: down he's ALL i did. It he's Like charlie was
Speaker 3: full of, hate and so they turned him. In, Right
Speaker 3: so that's the official story and the story that they
Speaker 3: tell that's basically.
Speaker 2: Summer.
Speaker 3: Right i'm probably forgetting one or two, things but, like
Speaker 3: that's the story of How Charlie kirk got. Schout is
Speaker 3: this one kid on his own with no conspirators.
Speaker 1: Can diffess as the. Crime the crime seem, like, again
Speaker 1: these are all, possible but they all seem unlikely.
Speaker 3: Exactly and then, uh and the other thing that was
Speaker 3: very suspect was the transferry boyfriend had apparently given a
Speaker 3: text message conversation to The feds and it literally sounds like.
Speaker 3: This it's, like, hey, LOVE i just want you to
Speaker 3: Know i'm the one who Killed Charlie. Kirk and then
Speaker 3: the transit of the guy lance is like are you.
Speaker 3: Serious he's, Like i'm, SORRY i did. It it's like
Speaker 3: it's such a fucking.
Speaker 1: Joke like this, mom who's not comparatal or sent me,
Speaker 1: that and she'd be, like people don't talk like this exactly,
Speaker 1: text do, they because we certainly.
Speaker 4: Don't And i'm, LIKE i don't talk to with a
Speaker 4: text like. THIS i don't.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah mother, said this looks. Weird it's the weirdest thing.
Speaker 3: Ever, now the only, like you're you have two, options,
Speaker 3: Right so one of the options is that it's completely.
Speaker 2: Fabricated like it's completely.
Speaker 3: FABRICATED i think more likely is it's a it is
Speaker 3: it is a fabricated common, station but Between lance And,
Speaker 3: tyler so That tyler can Exonerate, lance, like you, know
Speaker 3: Because tyler's, Like tyler's the, boy you, Know tyler's the
Speaker 3: man in this weird.
Speaker 1: Thing he's going to protect his, girlfriend, boyfriend girlfriend whatever
Speaker 1: getting in.
Speaker 3: Trouble, yeah SO i think that's probably what it. Is but,
Speaker 3: again Like i'm open to all, Options i'm not.
Speaker 4: Even like this. Is, Yeah i'm totally opening on the.
Speaker 4: Subject that's why's been having a.
Speaker 1: Conversation SO i haven't gone deep down Like i'm open
Speaker 1: For i'm trying to find the, truth trying to pure
Speaker 1: out what it. Is, yeah the other THING i saw
Speaker 1: weird there's that guy that ran for it and SAID
Speaker 1: i did.
Speaker 4: IT i did.
Speaker 1: It yeah as, well WHICH i forgot about The jewish
Speaker 1: people and that.
Speaker 2: Guy takes pulls his pants down and, SAYS i did.
Speaker 2: IT i did it this old.
Speaker 3: Guy and that guy had been all kinds of like
Speaker 3: he was like The boston bombing or, something and he
Speaker 3: was also at he was there.
Speaker 1: Watched things. Details but he's a very strange. Guy that
Speaker 1: child's horn on his phone and he's in jail for that.
Speaker 3: Immediately, after so no one can interview, him but they about.
Speaker 3: That and the other thing is that the day before this,
Speaker 3: Happened so it happened On september. Tenth the day, before
Speaker 3: on the, ninth there was a flood of posts on
Speaker 3: x from accounts that are like these like Trans, kids
Speaker 3: that were, LIKE i can't wait to See, charlie Like charlie, Something,
Speaker 3: hey make sure you guys all pay attention To Utah valley,
Speaker 3: Tomorrow like, Oh Charlie, KIRK i WONDER i.
Speaker 2: Hope no one takes Out.
Speaker 3: Charlie there was like twenty six accounts that posted things about, that.
Speaker 4: So it must have been out. Somewhere he must have, posted.
Speaker 3: Like in a discorder or some kind of group As
Speaker 3: wild or if it's a much larger like state actor than,
Speaker 3: they they may put that out to push blame over.
Speaker 1: On the trand to push blame on The trans.
Speaker 2: Exactly the, rest, yeah either, way but like one way or.
Speaker 3: Another the one thing that's definitely not true Is Tyler
Speaker 3: robinson did it by himself and no one, Knew like
Speaker 3: that's that's no.
Speaker 4: Here's SOMETHING i noticed right when had.
Speaker 1: Happened the guys ran right away and pulled the all
Speaker 1: the camera cards. Out, YEAH i think if you were,
Speaker 1: shot the first THING i would do would not be
Speaker 1: to run and pull the cards out of the. Cameras to,
Speaker 1: me that seemed like a very strange thing.
Speaker 2: Too and the other thing that's weird about that guy's
Speaker 2: behavior is.
Speaker 4: There are settle peel that DID i THINK i could
Speaker 4: be wrung by?
Speaker 2: That it, Was, well the one who's on video side
Speaker 2: is this one.
Speaker 3: Guy but so his immediate reaction After charlie gets, shot,
Speaker 3: Okay Like i've never had anybody get murdered in front of,
Speaker 3: me and with a with a live shooter on a college,
Speaker 3: Campus like why you You anyone would assume there's an
Speaker 3: active shooter here and my life is in. Danger everybody
Speaker 3: would think. That so your behavior is very easy to.
Speaker 3: Predict that's why that's HOW i. Approached look like analyzing
Speaker 3: everyone is, Like, okay this is one of those things
Speaker 3: where if you did not have fore, knowledge you are
Speaker 3: terrified and you're going to be, running, okay.
Speaker 1: Or run if my friend don't run towards you and
Speaker 1: try to like cover your.
Speaker 3: Neck rid exactly, so and, GOD i FORGOT i got
Speaker 3: to get to the guy who is who stood up
Speaker 3: and cheered. Also, okay so, anyway but this guy FROM,
Speaker 3: tpusa he runs like he kind of like runs to
Speaker 3: the back which is where they're going to Take charlie
Speaker 3: to the, suv and he's standing on this wall and
Speaker 3: he's filming like so like he immediately runs and just
Speaker 3: get up on this thing and he's just.
Speaker 2: Filming so like as.
Speaker 3: They Take charlie to the he got and and he's
Speaker 3: filming it and then and it's like and there's another
Speaker 3: angle of where he was.
Speaker 2: Standing it's like who would do?
Speaker 3: That who would run there and jump up on a
Speaker 3: wall in or work with? Him, yeah it was one
Speaker 3: of the, guys one of the TV, usa someone that
Speaker 3: cared to.
Speaker 2: Videography he wants.
Speaker 1: He wants to get the fucking body on, film just LIKE.
Speaker 1: Jfk there was the guy, there same small group that
Speaker 1: runs the media that had happened to get it on.
Speaker 3: Film so then he turns the camera on himself and he's,
Speaker 3: like they just they just Shot.
Speaker 2: Charlie he's, like oh my, god they just Shot. Charlie
Speaker 2: one thing that you will not like have there's a
Speaker 2: bunch of.
Speaker 3: Commons details is the people who are Around. Charlie none
Speaker 3: of them are behaving, correctly like AND i mean like
Speaker 3: none of. Them like if someone gets, killed like you
Speaker 3: CAN i.
Speaker 1: Can try to get a good video content of. It
Speaker 1: someone said one of his good. Friends right now even
Speaker 1: turn and just.
Speaker 3: He got jump on the. Phone his chief of staff
Speaker 3: gets on the phone and just walks.
Speaker 1: Away so we're like not even like. Clothes if you got,
Speaker 1: Shot i'm gonna jump and try to protect, you and
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be just got. Shot yeah you should
Speaker 1: have seen.
Speaker 3: It but like one second the, video the body gets,
Speaker 3: Yeah i'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna go get THIS sd card SO i can send
Speaker 2: it to.
Speaker 3: You, yeah it's like it's so bizarre and like so
Speaker 3: there was that and then but then also, afterwards Like Erica,
Speaker 3: kirk his, wife she's doing all of these appearances and
Speaker 3: it right away and everybody just looks like a person
Speaker 3: who thinks that they're good actors when they're, not you,
Speaker 3: know like and she's like she's like trying to like
Speaker 3: sell it that she's so. SAD i can tell it
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: Kind of a. GIRL i think girl is going a
Speaker 1: breakup and they can't leave their house for a. Month,
Speaker 1: yes and you get the father of your children. Shot,
Speaker 1: instead you're jumping To i'm gonna take over turning.
Speaker 4: Point.
Speaker 3: Yeah and and even if they were doing, that and,
Speaker 3: like first of, all to your, point like you're to
Speaker 3: take over TP, usa that is.
Speaker 2: An unreasonable ask.
Speaker 3: Of the guy's wife because a what the what does
Speaker 3: she know about T pusa didn't have kids take care
Speaker 3: of and be like don't you need some time to?
Speaker 3: Yourself you're just THE ceo OF tvus already, heiled like
Speaker 3: oh now you're just ready to, go and like we're
Speaker 3: gonna do all these events and.
Speaker 4: Like, god it's crazy the time of. Grieving yeah, no
Speaker 4: it was just straight to podcast circuit.
Speaker 1: Yep and you, KNOW i know everyone deals with grieving,
Speaker 1: differently But i've never seen a girl react the way
Speaker 1: after someone they love gets me neither and like brutal you,
Speaker 1: know for living when they lose their husbands and, stuff
Speaker 1: they're usually just brutalized for like a long period of.
Speaker 4: Times sometimes they never recover.
Speaker 3: Yep And and the other thing is, like as a
Speaker 3: person who talks on camera for a, LIVING i can
Speaker 3: say that like if if there's something THAT i have
Speaker 3: genuine emotion about it comes out When i'm. TALKING i
Speaker 3: have to edit myself out sometimes BECAUSE i just like
Speaker 3: lose my train of. THOUGHTS i get all worked up
Speaker 3: on if there's something that like really like, matters and
Speaker 3: so the idea that just because she's on camera those
Speaker 3: emotions would not naturally come is like not. Real LIKE
Speaker 3: i can tell a person who is dealing with real,
Speaker 3: grief LIKE i could see. It it's just Not and
Speaker 3: Then mike, McCoy the one who jumped on the, phone
Speaker 3: there's a video of him telling the story and he's
Speaker 3: doing the same thing like, that like he's, like you,
Speaker 3: know he's like and THEN, i, uh you, know that's
Speaker 3: it's just all, Wrong like.
Speaker 1: It looked so off me IF i feel weird criticizing his,
Speaker 1: widow but it just that looked LIKE i lost my.
Speaker 1: Dad there was several months period WHERE i was just
Speaker 1: kind of like not. MYSELF i wouldn't be going on
Speaker 1: a podcast like laughing and like and they make you
Speaker 1: talk about it, too like it's, like, YEAH i probably
Speaker 1: start crying talk about. It, Yeah like you, know that's
Speaker 1: that's exactly a hard time talking about. IT i want
Speaker 1: to talk about it for the. Minute you, know like
Speaker 1: WHEN i Thought Jake elberger my dad had just, died
Speaker 1: AND i was okay in the back room AND i
Speaker 1: started to go walking out and they put a video
Speaker 1: of him up there road just totally JUST i wish
Speaker 1: they would have told me that because my. HOME i
Speaker 1: was like in good mindset that just fucking, protally just
Speaker 1: why would they have done that without telling? Me and
Speaker 1: it's LIKE i get there trying to build a story
Speaker 1: IF i just lost my father and how closely were he?
Speaker 1: Is my manster me and it just walking out there
Speaker 1: AND i was just like just threw me in like
Speaker 1: a complete you, know, yeah LIKE i was felt like
Speaker 1: he's dead inside and good at thinking it's that was
Speaker 1: one of my worst reform has ever just walked out.
Speaker 2: There oh you have a pretty good reason for.
Speaker 1: That, yeah you, KNOW i still FEEL i don't want
Speaker 1: to excuse, it but it's just like the idea is
Speaker 1: just completely shocking and. Jarring right AS i come, OUT
Speaker 1: i just lost some a couple weeks, before and as
Speaker 1: they try trying not to cry As i'm walking to
Speaker 1: the fucking.
Speaker 3: Cage, bro this is, like honestly talking to you about
Speaker 3: this is a perfect illustration of What i'm talking, about
Speaker 3: because they were so commedition.
Speaker 1: Close that was, like you, know like, right UH. F
Speaker 1: THE gsp fight's like two thousand and, ELEVEN i, think.
Speaker 2: So fourteen years and you still can't talk about.
Speaker 1: It, yeah take, Hard i'm talking about.
Speaker 2: That, yeah and she you're exactly and she.
Speaker 3: Is you should definitely use this clip to, demonstrate, like
Speaker 3: don't edit it, out like, really because like anybody can understand.
Speaker 1: The only THINGS i get emotional over because like we
Speaker 1: were just so close and it's like we talked every.
Speaker 1: Day we become a best, friend you. Know when we're growing,
Speaker 1: up sometimes we weren't as close and, battled but really
Speaker 1: it's because he, was you, know fighting to protect, me
Speaker 1: hanging out with the wrong, people you, know and he
Speaker 1: would don't was his own, issues and it's like it
Speaker 1: was so hard to lose.
Speaker 4: Them SO i couldn't imagine losing your partner with your.
Speaker 1: Children, Yeah Like i'm not sure if you have kids or,
Speaker 1: not but if you're raising kids together with, someone it's
Speaker 1: just that is such to lose that.
Speaker 4: Person it's, like oh my.
Speaker 2: God and, imagine Imagine i've thought about this a lot.
Speaker 3: Too imagine not only losing, them but knowing someone intentionally
Speaker 3: did that to, them like, imagine.
Speaker 2: Like it's not just it's not just a.
Speaker 3: Tragedy he, said someone intended to kill that, person and
Speaker 3: just like try to, imagine Like i've always thought about
Speaker 3: like how that would more so even enhance how like
Speaker 3: the level of grief to know that someone did and
Speaker 3: there's just it's not, There like it's not.
Speaker 2: There you can't.
Speaker 1: Pretend it seems it seems completely fake to. Me And
Speaker 1: i'm really good at reading. People i'm very unfortunate Someone
Speaker 1: i've had to learn throughout the. Years we'll BOTH i
Speaker 1: think this way grow up and then get in. Fame
Speaker 1: you have to really learn to desire. People no one's
Speaker 1: gonna be a hundred percent of the. Time But i'm
Speaker 1: fucking really good to reading. People, think you, know like
Speaker 1: The amblazarians poke repair amazing reading people every.
Speaker 4: Time he's the ONE i.
Speaker 1: Asked we've agreed one hundred percent of the time in our,
Speaker 1: analysis WHICH i find is. Interesting it's, like you, know.
Speaker 3: It usually seems like like the people who are really
Speaker 3: good at it are kind of like street, Guys LIKE
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Speaker 3: can we unconsciously recognize very small ways that people hold their. Face,
Speaker 3: yeah and then and, so and then we like algorithmically
Speaker 3: go back through, it and then you're, LIKE i remember
Speaker 3: who held their face like, that and this is what they.
Speaker 3: Did and then you have like seven eight people that
Speaker 3: have all.
Speaker 2: Done the same, thing and you're, like that guy's gonna
Speaker 2: fuck you.
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Speaker 1: it and there the other guy that.
Speaker 4: Really trust is reader.
Speaker 2: PEOPLE i can always tell these.
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Speaker 3: ALWAYS i can always pick out people who HAVE i
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Speaker 1: Eyes yet WHEN i, said like my alarm bell and goes,
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Speaker 1: yeah all of. It, again that by itself carry. Something
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Speaker 1: just did an interview With Barry, weiss who was like
Speaker 1: a fucking asset Of.
Speaker 4: Israel.
Speaker 3: Dude that, Okay so THAT i, mean so that whole
Speaker 3: thing basically that just, happened and, like, actually let me
Speaker 3: just make sure That i'm not leaving stuff on the
Speaker 3: table about the event.
Speaker 2: First actually let's go back to. That let's come back to,
Speaker 2: that because, yeah because each, string.
Speaker 1: Because there's so many parts of the stories And i'm,
Speaker 1: glad GLAD i don't.
Speaker 4: Know the story THAT i know little pieces of.
Speaker 2: It and we're just getting warmed.
Speaker 3: Up so, like, okay so the also so basically my.
Speaker 3: Hypothesis no matter WHAT i, like there's a lot of
Speaker 3: people who think a lot of different. Things candice is
Speaker 3: definitely of the opinion that this was like a very
Speaker 3: large state actor integrated conspiracy that involved a lot of
Speaker 3: different like governments and. Whatever my, Uh and, LIKE i
Speaker 3: watch candas every. DAY i LOVE i love Watching, candace,
Speaker 3: dude and, like. Uh and that's the thing, IS i
Speaker 3: don't agree with her necessarily on on like who we think.
Speaker 3: Did what we do agree, on, though is that the
Speaker 3: official story is, Wrong like just, STRAIGHT i agree it's.
Speaker 1: Wrong AND i don't really watch any. Shows BUT i
Speaker 1: Like candace a, lot you, know only know her. Well
Speaker 1: but we've had some dms and. STUFF i have time
Speaker 1: to respect for.
Speaker 2: Her, yeah she's a fucking badass. Duds she's such.
Speaker 1: A feast for a.
Speaker 4: WOMAN i love the balls she. Has just.
Speaker 1: Respect and, AGAIN i think we disagree with. Something she
Speaker 1: has some things, wrong but overall us a.
Speaker 3: WHOLE i Love candace me, too, Dude and like she's so,
Speaker 3: funny like and the thing, is she's at her best
Speaker 3: when people go at her.
Speaker 2: Directly that's what that, man she. Goes she's a dragon.
Speaker 3: That's What she's gonna burn your fucking house into the.
Speaker 1: Ground LIKE i love, aspect it doesn't MEAN i agree
Speaker 1: with everything she. SAYS i haven't looked at her. Theories
Speaker 1: some of the shit sounds, crazy BUT i haven't looked at.
Speaker 1: It so by things that sound crazy sometimes turn out
Speaker 1: to be. TRUE, yea not gonna get into this, day
Speaker 1: but nine to eleven because you think an that being. True,
Speaker 1: Now i'm very evinced AND i would debate anyone on.
Speaker 1: It we're not gonna dot on the topic to, day
Speaker 1: but stuff like that once you actually tear things.
Speaker 3: Apart, Yeah so for IF i was gonna break down
Speaker 3: the difference in like What i've done with the, case,
Speaker 3: first what she's done is what she's done is literally
Speaker 3: found anything that is just wrong and she just and she's,
Speaker 3: like how come these people were in this place at
Speaker 3: this time when this this Is but there's not like
Speaker 3: she's not necessarily making like a coherent Like and that
Speaker 3: means that this where you're what our, like what what
Speaker 3: our like my investigator AND i have have looked into very,
Speaker 3: deeply is like these these suspects who were like connected
Speaker 3: To Tyler robinson BECAUSE i Think Tyler robinson is probably a,
Speaker 3: patsy BUT i think that the people who did it
Speaker 3: are these trans like leftist radical, maniacs and they set him.
Speaker 1: Up they might think it was like orchestrated by these.
Speaker 1: People the governments are potentially, INVOLVED i mean.
Speaker 2: Maybe, both like because these uh you, know these these.
Speaker 3: Groups they, yeah they they they they infiltrate these, groups you,
Speaker 3: know and then like and then they get them to do.
Speaker 3: Whatever but so the, okay so let me actually go,
Speaker 3: Okay So Lance, twigs the transferry. Roommate it turns out
Speaker 3: that this guy is someone who had been kicked out
Speaker 3: of his own family because when his, grandfather who's a,
Speaker 3: pediatrician he refused to write him a script for cross sex,
Speaker 3: hormones he attacked him with a. Knife so history of
Speaker 3: like potentially you, know and this is like my.
Speaker 2: Source on this is rock. Solid that's.
Speaker 3: Crazy so you've got him who you can call that
Speaker 3: an attempted, murder, Right he's kicked out of his. Family
Speaker 3: and one of their friends came out with this whole
Speaker 3: report and with all these pictures That lance was like
Speaker 3: a schizophrenic maniac who had all of these like he
Speaker 3: had like pages and pages and pages and pages of
Speaker 3: these like notes that he was writing and like making
Speaker 3: all these drawings and all this this, boyfriend this is
Speaker 3: the trans, boyfriend and he would go crazy and like
Speaker 3: all the he's, like, dude he's Like tyler was like the,
Speaker 3: calm measured one who always would have to go take
Speaker 3: care Of lance Because lance would go like he was
Speaker 3: like an avro.
Speaker 4: Uditate this gits seems, strange but so.
Speaker 3: You would think that the schitzo gud would be more
Speaker 3: likely to commit this murder or at the very least
Speaker 3: be doing exactly the idea that he had no idea
Speaker 3: and just like and then found.
Speaker 1: Out, babe LIKE i just Get, yeah you're not going
Speaker 1: to share with your partner your clothes exactly what you're
Speaker 1: gonna do if they have the same, hatred you, Know,
Speaker 1: yeah it seems like that would be a conversation you,
Speaker 1: had you know what if he believed it was an
Speaker 1: active good Like i'm gonna go do this, Exactly.
Speaker 3: And Tyler robinson had literally was like wasn't a transkit or?
Speaker 3: Whatever he got turned out by a transkit six months
Speaker 3: before that where and he had no direct connections to
Speaker 3: these like like these radical transactivists at all.
Speaker 2: Prior Now, Lance so my uh my guy got Into
Speaker 2: Lance Twig's steam. Account you know. What it's actually Both
Speaker 2: tyler AND i don't.
Speaker 1: Know.
Speaker 3: Okay so it's basically like a platform where game like
Speaker 3: coming they all talk to each, other, okay, okay so,
Speaker 3: Okay so there was a person named Sky valdez who
Speaker 3: was the one of the original. People like at first
Speaker 3: it came out on Four, Chan like on Four chan
Speaker 3: they found this person and they posted it and then
Speaker 3: every started looking into. It so, basically this, Person skyvalde
Speaker 3: as a trans transgender, radical you, know like there's pictures
Speaker 3: of them like with all these like trans like you,
Speaker 3: know with rifles and all, that and they put. That
Speaker 3: they have a SoundCloud and they made a song In
Speaker 3: august Called Charlie Kirk dead at thirty, One so like
Speaker 3: a month Before Charlie kirk gets, murdered they have a
Speaker 3: song out on their. SoundCloud this IS i think it's
Speaker 3: actually three weeks before, Wow and it's Like Charlie kirk
Speaker 3: dead at thirty. One same day on Their twitter Or
Speaker 3: i'm sorry on Their, instagram they posted a Photo i'm,
Speaker 3: sorry like a drawing of a shooter in a prone
Speaker 3: position with a rifle right next to him on the,
Speaker 3: roof in the exact spot That Charlie kirk ended up
Speaker 3: getting shot.
Speaker 2: From it's and it's titled.
Speaker 3: Roof they try to take it, down but my guy's
Speaker 3: super good at like, finding like getting.
Speaker 2: Stuff so like you Have skybelle des.
Speaker 1: He does like real research on. This oh, yeah like
Speaker 1: that's What i'm. Saying WHY i haven't touched. IT i
Speaker 1: didn't Want i'm so. BUSY i didn't want to get
Speaker 1: absorbed doing.
Speaker 2: This, well might do.
Speaker 4: Bad likely you've done it for.
Speaker 3: Me, yeah, yeah well BECAUSE i make videos about, it
Speaker 3: so like and my investigator is a, killer so he finds.
Speaker 3: Everything and then like so so, yeah the Skyval danz person.
Speaker 3: Whatever and then so then they, Said Tyler robinson did
Speaker 3: everyone stops looking at The skybaldez. Person so when we
Speaker 3: got Into Lance's steam, account what he had done is
Speaker 3: he had said to a ton of. People there was
Speaker 3: maybe like maybe fifteen people that all at, once he,
Speaker 3: said take down your social, like take down your, socials
Speaker 3: take down your.
Speaker 2: Socials take.
Speaker 3: Time so what he was trying to do was protector
Speaker 3: the other. Guy, no the other, Guy, Lance, yeah do
Speaker 3: yourself a. Favor take down your. Socials he and he copy,
Speaker 3: paste copy, paste copy.
Speaker 2: Pists he was trying to protect.
Speaker 3: Them and what he did actually was he told us
Speaker 3: who we should look, at you know cause it's like.
Speaker 4: He told the people, that, yeah.
Speaker 2: One by one by one by.
Speaker 1: One so you're, like why would, hey why would he pick?
Speaker 4: Them you know the people he was? Telling take, that, yes.
Speaker 3: Exactly and then we found a message From sky Like,
Speaker 3: skyvelder the one who did the thing to, him and
Speaker 3: it was, like, hey you've gone?
Speaker 2: Dark where have you?
Speaker 3: Been And i'm not sure if they meant to do
Speaker 3: it under Their sky, account but they did it under
Speaker 3: The sky. ACCOUNT i was, like, okay so right now
Speaker 3: now we can Connect Sky, valdez the one who did
Speaker 3: the song and did the fucking the painting, picture To Lance,
Speaker 3: twiggs the transferry boyfriend who supposedly is going to be
Speaker 3: the number one witness Against. Tyler So tyler also supposedly
Speaker 3: admitted in a discord group like with his like old,
Speaker 3: friends like, hey, Guys i'm, SORRY i just wanted to
Speaker 3: let you know is me that Shot CHARLIE A thanks
Speaker 3: for all the good. Times, Okay so your evidence against
Speaker 3: him is a rifle that supposedly fired a thirty out
Speaker 3: six round that. Behaved you, know the bullet makes no,
Speaker 3: sense didn't. Exit you have an admission through the text
Speaker 3: messages to his transferry boyfriend that he did. It you
Speaker 3: have a discord, admission and you HAVE dna supposedly on the. Rifle,
Speaker 3: Okay so a like if that's his, rifle of course
Speaker 3: HIS dna is on, it right like if if if
Speaker 3: the rest of it. Relies and Also candace said that
Speaker 3: she has a source that is telling her That Tyler
Speaker 3: robinson had no idea why they thought that he had done. It,
Speaker 3: like so the report publicly, was, oh, yeah he admitted
Speaker 3: it to his, family And.
Speaker 2: Kennas is, LIKE i talked to people.
Speaker 4: Crazy children drop the seats.
Speaker 3: Later well, YEAH i mean it's, LIKE i, mean there's
Speaker 3: she's been talking about this every day for, months so
Speaker 3: like sometimes LIKE i can't share my source on the
Speaker 3: Lands twigs attacked with the Kife but that's.
Speaker 4: Legit exactly because you're not going to expose.
Speaker 3: Us, yeah and then so same, Thing she's, Like Tyler
Speaker 3: robinson had no idea why they were after, him and
Speaker 3: he turned himself in because he was afraid THE swat team.
Speaker 2: Was going to come in and kill.
Speaker 3: Him so that's completely contrary to what the official story.
Speaker 3: Was so let's say that that is. True he has
Speaker 3: no idea why they're looking for. Him your connection to
Speaker 3: uh that it's him is text message thread with the
Speaker 3: transferry boyfriend who has access to his phone a discord.
Speaker 3: Group he has access to his discord, group and they're saying,
Speaker 3: like oh, yeah this this lands. Twigs you, know he's
Speaker 3: helping us so, much and you're, like how do you
Speaker 3: know he's not framing? Him, like how do you how
Speaker 3: do you know he's not setting him? Up this is
Speaker 3: the violent? Crazy don't any of?
Speaker 4: This this is.
Speaker 2: CRAZY i MEAN i put all this out and, like
Speaker 2: and uh.
Speaker 1: So everyone like and subscribe both of our. Channels, yea, yeah,
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Speaker 2: One and uh, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've watched some of your videos And i'm, like, oh
Speaker 1: you get every, OPE i need to start go do
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Speaker 1: you've been a chillie of the. CHANNEL i was LOOKING
Speaker 1: i look at channel a while Because i'm watch content
Speaker 1: with your. Matrixs i'm, like, wow you're really blowing.
Speaker 3: Up it just depends on, yeah for my Channel it
Speaker 3: just depends on on, like is there a trending topic
Speaker 3: that everyone cares and you're doing.
Speaker 1: The, research like you're actually actually knowing the research on.
Speaker 1: It that's WHY i saw you and talking about. This i'm, like, oh,
Speaker 1: PERFECT i. Haven't this is a subject that you share
Speaker 1: so much STUFF i was completely aware.
Speaker 2: Of, yeah so check this out. Too.
Speaker 3: Okay so remember the the other trans shooter In minnesota
Speaker 3: right before this, happened that shot that church to like
Speaker 3: long hair Guy Robin. Westman so like there's been a, few, yeah,
Speaker 3: This so he had put out a video the night,
Speaker 3: before or well he could record it the night, before
Speaker 3: and he put it out right before he did, it
Speaker 3: and had all these like things written on the written
Speaker 3: on the, magazines written on the, guns all that. Stuff
Speaker 3: so This robin westould happened In minnesota literally two weeks.
Speaker 3: Before so my, investigator fucking genius figured. Out so he,
Speaker 3: Goes so Sky, valdez the one who had put the song,
Speaker 3: Up Charlie kirk dead at thirty, One he went and
Speaker 3: looked at all of these songs on any of Sky valdez's,
Speaker 3: albums and then he went back and re Referenced Robin
Speaker 3: westman's video where he was like showing all of his magazines,
Speaker 3: whatever and one of the one of the things that
Speaker 3: he had written on his uh on his gun was
Speaker 3: a song title From Sky valdez's. Album so, like now
Speaker 3: you're connecting this guy who was a trans shooter In
Speaker 3: minnesota to The Charlie kirk assassination, also and they just
Speaker 3: need to figure out where these people are.
Speaker 1: Communicating, yes there's still, yeah there's clearly somewhere the. Plan
Speaker 1: people are extremely. Violent for, ME i get multiple death.
Speaker 1: Threats the most have gotten are From frans And jews
Speaker 1: and zaveto some people think there's An israeli connection, too
Speaker 1: and to me that's not almost strong opinion BECAUSE i
Speaker 1: both of these.
Speaker 4: GROUPS i.
Speaker 1: KNOW i, Mean israel carries out more assassinations than any
Speaker 1: other COUNTRY i, think including The United, states and this
Speaker 1: is well. Documented people can go On wikipedia and look
Speaker 1: up these are the ones they has. Proven you can
Speaker 1: look Up israeli assassinations and see they go all over
Speaker 1: the world and assassinate, people you, know not just in
Speaker 1: their own.
Speaker 3: COUNTRY i would love to see the metrics on how
Speaker 3: many people in The United states wax.
Speaker 1: Up we whack a LOIZE i bet what The United
Speaker 1: states is the two top that carries out assassinations around the.
Speaker 4: World, yeah, dude the world is A it's.
Speaker 3: Crazy How LIKE i always think about, this how IF
Speaker 3: i if like my, Neighbor like my neighbor fucks my
Speaker 3: wife and then beats up my. Kid IF i shoot
Speaker 3: and kill that, GUY i go to prison, forever Right, Like,
Speaker 3: actually IF i found out the guy raped my wife
Speaker 3: and THEN i killed them a week, LATER i go
Speaker 3: to prison for.
Speaker 4: Someone less your kid Like Kane.
Speaker 1: Blast yet you both know he Almost he's in prison
Speaker 1: right for almost killing a guy that the guy fucked
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 4: What but they let him out of prison right at
Speaker 4: a couple a couple of days.
Speaker 1: Later And kane's one of the scariest guys that fucking everything.
Speaker 1: Around so it's not people THAT i would be scared.
Speaker 1: Of But kane is just the worst possible. Guy you,
Speaker 1: Know he went and chose a long kids to. Do
Speaker 1: he went in a high speed chase sixteen, miles ran
Speaker 1: him off the road and shot him sho but the guy.
Speaker 1: Lived but that's, honestly guy doesn't suck.
Speaker 3: Around if they gave me the, option they're, like you
Speaker 3: can either Fight. Kane but if you, lose he's gonna
Speaker 3: beat you to. Death And i'm, like, well that's for
Speaker 3: sure gonna.
Speaker 2: Happen or you can.
Speaker 3: Get a high speed chase and he's gonna shoot his
Speaker 3: gun at. You i'd be, Like i'll take the, chase.
Speaker 1: Man i'm LIKE i, like someone's, like, oh someone's gonna
Speaker 1: Kill caine in prison to try to make it like
Speaker 1: you guys don't understand how the world.
Speaker 4: Works he's gonna be loved by.
Speaker 1: EVERYONE moni fucking fucked up a child molester. Too He's Kane,
Speaker 1: vlaska just the Fucking.
Speaker 2: Mexican, everyone.
Speaker 4: But he's not disrespectful to.
Speaker 1: Non mexicans But Heron brown like every group can want
Speaker 1: to be cool with. Them you, know everyone's gonna be,
Speaker 1: like oh, fuck That's Kane. ALASKA i want him on
Speaker 1: my side.
Speaker 2: For, sure and, honestly like they're, like, oh, yeah he's
Speaker 2: get stabbed in. Jails, dude you could Stab.
Speaker 1: Kane and then, yeah he's like You he's everyone's.
Speaker 4: Gonna be trying to be his. Buddy and you do
Speaker 4: know people trying to say he's gonna.
Speaker 1: Killed, Joe, like, no k is going to be the
Speaker 1: most popular, Guy like, hey, buddy do you want?
Speaker 4: This you want some of my? Food rate?
Speaker 3: Me whoever gets his, Ticket they're, like, hey you got
Speaker 3: to get him you just like you, know like that's
Speaker 3: the way you would have people.
Speaker 4: Kill this the.
Speaker 1: Fighting this guy is one of the most vicious men
Speaker 1: to ever. Live. Heavyweight he is a heavyweight just it
Speaker 1: His primealy used to watch him. Sparred, aka, wow we
Speaker 1: get the fighting the. End let's just, yeah, yeah well
Speaker 1: it's so easy.
Speaker 4: To get off track BEST i think a, cane so
Speaker 4: easy to get.
Speaker 1: Tracked, sorry, no let's, yeah but we should definitely gets
Speaker 1: get through this Fucking kirk.
Speaker 3: Stuff, yeah so, anyway, like uh so that's that's kind
Speaker 3: of like that side of.
Speaker 2: It then the one other thing that happened was there
Speaker 2: was a.
Speaker 3: Guy so right After charlie gets, shot this guy in the,
Speaker 3: crowd like we were talking about everybody should be, scared
Speaker 3: this guy gets, up turns around and.
Speaker 2: Cheers saw that.
Speaker 4: Video.
Speaker 3: Weird, yeah there's a lot about that guy THAT i
Speaker 3: kind of can't get into, publicly but.
Speaker 4: Like there's a lot of researching right.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah there's a lot, There like that.
Speaker 3: Guy that was the most suspicious thing THAT i saw
Speaker 3: is that and then that guy put out a statement
Speaker 3: the next day because he went viral and he was
Speaker 3: reading off of a script and he was just, like
Speaker 3: it was so weird he's reading off the. Script and
Speaker 3: then he got hammered in the. Comments so he made
Speaker 3: another video and it was like now the mass off
Speaker 3: and he was, like you, guys if that, GUY i.
Speaker 1: Mean he's a he's a dangerous person in my. Video,
Speaker 1: now he could have been happy and not, involved but
Speaker 1: that was still.
Speaker 3: Who cheers at a guy getting murdered in front of
Speaker 3: you like a sick. Person and he also cheered. You
Speaker 3: he was CHEERING, USA, usa and that's what he was.
Speaker 3: Cheering AND i, UH i did a video WHERE i
Speaker 3: connected it. Back it's like remember When trump almost got
Speaker 3: killed and then when he stood back up and fist
Speaker 3: pumped and the crowd started CHANTING.
Speaker 2: USA i was, like that's what that's that's what that.
Speaker 1: Was.
Speaker 2: Was they planned in, advance like we.
Speaker 4: Missed they wanted to hit that this.
Speaker 1: Time they wanted to hit their version of The it's.
Speaker 3: It's them throwing it in our, face like they're, like,
Speaker 3: yay we got him this, time you, know and it's like,
Speaker 3: now US, us that's why it's.
Speaker 1: HARD i don't believe the ficial store, either BUT i
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what it.
Speaker 4: Is you, know there's really thing AND i don't really.
Speaker 1: Know but the week BEFORE i was on the podcast
Speaker 1: with him and he, Goes Charlie kirk Believes israel was
Speaker 1: going to kill him if He, yeah that's that's. WHAT
Speaker 1: i laughed at it at the.
Speaker 4: Time i'm, Like.
Speaker 1: Okay then when a week later he got, Shot i'm, like,
Speaker 1: YEAH i was the one in the conversation that was
Speaker 1: on line on the. Podcast there's clips of it of
Speaker 1: him telling me That Charlie kirk believes That israel might kill,
Speaker 1: him AND i just kind of laughed it off at
Speaker 1: the time and changed the. Subject, oh this is before
Speaker 1: he got Before before to, me it seems so outlandish
Speaker 1: because he's like a hardcore. IONIST i, thought you know
Speaker 1: what he was like behind the scenes stuff that was going.
Speaker 1: On So i'm just, like, What, like that doesn't make any.
Speaker 1: SENSE i think he was kind of applying that is
Speaker 1: Why alex.
Speaker 4: Is the look out for what he.
Speaker 1: Says he's, like, well you, Know Charlie, kirk you, KNOW
Speaker 1: i just felt doubt that he's in fear That israel.
Speaker 4: Is going to kill him if he turns On.
Speaker 1: Israel this is on a, podcast there's clips of, it
Speaker 1: And i'm just, LIKE i just kind of change the
Speaker 1: subject because it seems so ridiculous to, me.
Speaker 2: And then do that blow if someone said and then
Speaker 2: he Killed.
Speaker 1: Jarring it, happened AND i feel, bad just kind of
Speaker 1: like laughing it, off being, like, yeah, okay well.
Speaker 2: No of course you're gonna lie because it sounds. Insane,
Speaker 2: yeah sounds.
Speaker 1: Insane And i'm still not saying that that, happened But
Speaker 1: i'm saying these type of. Things, see the thing is you,
Speaker 1: matter so And i'll say you like. THAT i mean
Speaker 1: we could like. That that's probably enough On charlie in.
Speaker 1: General but ACTUALLY i do want to talk About erica Kirk. Candas, yeah,
Speaker 1: NO i have a couple more. Questions, yeah Because.
Speaker 3: Erica Kirkan candas you, want you want clips that will, Go,
Speaker 3: yeah that's have a couple more.
Speaker 2: Questions but, yeah but WHAT i was WHAT i was
Speaker 2: gonna say is.
Speaker 3: Like like for people who are, like why are these
Speaker 3: people so obsessed with That israel did? It like they
Speaker 3: think that people are being unreasonable because there's no like direct.
Speaker 2: Evidence but, YEAH i will say, this IF i was
Speaker 2: one of.
Speaker 3: The people who knew That charlie had, SAID i think
Speaker 3: that they might kill me if. This there's nothing that
Speaker 3: would convince me That israel did not do it if
Speaker 3: that happened subsequent AND i, SEE i.
Speaker 4: Know, yeah this was before he was.
Speaker 1: Killed there's there's clips of you, KNOW i said, me
Speaker 1: the clips of the, PODCAST i believe this before it
Speaker 1: Is Harrison, smith you know who that is that is
Speaker 1: that trade works For Info.
Speaker 4: Wars When Alex.
Speaker 1: Jones oh, yea, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah and you, know
Speaker 1: he says to me that was just.
Speaker 3: Bizarre it's BEEN i, mean it's been confirmed pretty. Much
Speaker 3: and Like candice said that multiple people AT tpusa.
Speaker 1: They Told i'm pretty Sure tucker said the same. Thing
Speaker 1: these are all people that are good friends With, charlie
Speaker 1: so it's not like just random people.
Speaker 3: Totally and like So i've spoken to a couple of
Speaker 3: people who are really high up government and They're they've
Speaker 3: SAID i was, Like i'm, like doesn't this seem like
Speaker 3: pretty out in the open for for Like israel to do,
Speaker 3: though given that they're reliant ON i, mean say what
Speaker 3: you want about how they kind of pull the strings
Speaker 3: in the, world but like they are reliant on The
Speaker 3: United states for. Aid And Charlie kirk was with is
Speaker 3: one OF Jd vance's best. Friends he's obviously with. Up
Speaker 3: it's like to kill him out in the, open like that.
Speaker 2: Would be an.
Speaker 1: Existential affect us at.
Speaker 4: All they mock.
Speaker 1: Us they bombed THE Uss, Liberty they Did Levana flair
Speaker 1: where they Bombed america and tried to blame it On.
Speaker 1: EGYPT i think they've did nine to eleven IN jfk
Speaker 1: other episodes WHERE i go deep into the, guy the
Speaker 1: guys who were, Cheering, yeah and just like they're behind so.
Speaker 1: Much they stole our nuclear as well. Known they told
Speaker 1: our nuclear secrets in. Uranium there are top spy. Threat
Speaker 1: they just mock us and treat us like complete. Dirt
Speaker 1: they seem to think they have complete control of our.
Speaker 1: Country it seems like they do The epstein files that
Speaker 1: was An israeli. Operation trump calls them a democratic. Hoax
Speaker 1: you know you're protecting a.
Speaker 4: PEDOPHILE i. CAN'T i can't Support. Maggie when you're.
Speaker 1: Protecting a, pedophile you gotta draw you gotta draw the line.
Speaker 1: Somewhere AND i think that really turned a lot of.
Speaker 3: People that was a headshot to the movement in, general
Speaker 3: because it's, like this is the thing THAT i actually
Speaker 3: let's come back to.
Speaker 4: That, yeah let's get a couple of let's wrap of,
Speaker 4: this and then we. GO i have a couple of
Speaker 4: questions on.
Speaker 1: This.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah but the let's Talk candice In erica, does
Speaker 3: it's very topical and this this will do so like The,
Speaker 3: okay so Eric So candace has been doing a series
Speaker 3: where she is every single day kind of like New. Developments,
Speaker 3: Now candace has the most extensive network of of like
Speaker 3: community investigators of anyone ever saying professional.
Speaker 1: INVESTIGATORS i know she has. That, YES i know she
Speaker 1: has high, level well paid.
Speaker 4: Investigators.
Speaker 3: Yeah and then so they and they investigate the tips
Speaker 3: that come, in and so she has just endless.
Speaker 2: Tips, RIGHT i have people reach out to me and
Speaker 2: all the.
Speaker 1: Time be careful of tips because they can people can
Speaker 1: lead you astray intentionally, Too so that's why you're very
Speaker 1: careful of. That that's why it's good to have professional. INVESTIGATOR
Speaker 1: i might get your guys number After, yeah well if
Speaker 1: you don't use them full.
Speaker 2: Time by, guys he.
Speaker 3: Did even IF i did use him full, time he
Speaker 3: would just create another twelve hours in the day somehow to.
Speaker 4: Do, MORELY i need someone like.
Speaker 3: That, yeah so she you, know so she she takes
Speaker 3: the tips and then she puts them out.
Speaker 2: Whatever but like so.
Speaker 3: She has focused a lot of her energy on TP
Speaker 3: usa as an organization because like basically she's, LIKE i
Speaker 3: know they lied about, this AND i know they lied about.
Speaker 3: This why are you lying about? That because like she,
Speaker 3: was she used to work WITH tpusa for a very long,
Speaker 3: time and so when she's, like you, know she said
Speaker 3: that the day that it, happened she got on the
Speaker 3: phone With Andrew, colvin who was the you, know he's
Speaker 3: one of the guys that you're seeing all the time, now,
Speaker 3: okay and she said that he said to, her, hey
Speaker 3: can like it was supposed to be.
Speaker 2: You and then he, said he, said you're supposed to be.
Speaker 3: You and then he, said, uh AND i just you,
Speaker 3: KNOW i just want to let you know there's a you,
Speaker 3: know the word around the. Campfires there's an active an
Speaker 3: active threat against you And, tucker so like watch your.
Speaker 3: Back and she said, that you, know she was so
Speaker 3: devastated at the time That charlie even killed that like
Speaker 3: it didn't really. Register and then she started thinking about
Speaker 3: it After she's, like how would, you, like what do
Speaker 3: you mean it should have been me A and then,
Speaker 3: also if you knew about this active, threat who is the?
Speaker 2: Threat, like who is who posed the? Threat where is
Speaker 2: this coming?
Speaker 3: From so if IF i had that much intimate knowledge
Speaker 3: of an organization they start lying after an event like,
Speaker 3: This i'm gonna be convinced, that, like, okay.
Speaker 2: We need to look into these.
Speaker 3: People so she's focused a lot of energy ON, tpusa
Speaker 3: and she's so persuasive that it's become a major problem FOR.
Speaker 4: Tpusa it's a large.
Speaker 3: Audience she has a huge, audience and, like so the
Speaker 3: most recent thing that happened Is Erica kirk started doing
Speaker 3: A pr. Tour so she's like going on all to
Speaker 3: all of these interviews and she is speaking directly about
Speaker 3: Canis owans in the and she's, like can the can
Speaker 3: you just stop doing what you're, Doing like you're attacking
Speaker 3: my family AT, tpusa you're doing, this this is this,
Speaker 3: this and and there's also a lot of suspishon Around Erica.
Speaker 3: Kirk around this there's like a there was An egyptian
Speaker 3: private jet that had Followed Erica kirk to all of
Speaker 3: her stops for the last two.
Speaker 1: Years he said that he had that, confirm And tucker
Speaker 1: has good, SOURCES i would, think, oh, yeah that is
Speaker 1: super fucking. Weird and the picture just came out here With,
Speaker 1: benjamintea who's for.
Speaker 2: A long, time from twenty, nine twenty fifteen or something like.
Speaker 4: That i'm not sure this year's BUT i was an old.
Speaker 1: Photo that's very, weird very very. Weird and you can't
Speaker 1: just be because your wife is someone you're you know you.
Speaker 1: Have i'm more careful IF i criticize, you but if
Speaker 1: you started seeing all these weird, Things i'm not just
Speaker 1: gonna ignore. IT i think she met him In israel, Too,
Speaker 1: YEAH i heard.
Speaker 3: That their official story is that she was interviewing for
Speaker 3: a job and then he was, LIKE i don't want
Speaker 3: to hire.
Speaker 2: YOU i want to marry, you you, know but like who?
Speaker 1: Knows who?
Speaker 3: KNOWS i really don't. Know but, no, NO i heard
Speaker 3: the same. Thing BUT i, mean the ALL i know
Speaker 3: is this is the official story IS i saw the same,
Speaker 3: rumor BUT i don't.
Speaker 4: KNOW i don't even remember who told me.
Speaker 3: That but you know what the big rumor is is
Speaker 3: that her father Started Raitheon, israel like The raitheon.
Speaker 2: Division like IS i see, AGAIN i.
Speaker 3: CAN'T i can't say that that's fact BECAUSE i haven't
Speaker 3: like But i've tried to.
Speaker 1: Both for, parents for connected to, intelligence but AGAIN i
Speaker 1: haven't done the research. Myself someone saimpy and stuff and IT'S.
Speaker 2: I tried to verify The.
Speaker 3: RATHON i know we were For raitheon for one hundred percent,
Speaker 3: sure but like but and then they said that he
Speaker 3: started the The israeli branch Of. Raitheon that would be
Speaker 3: a very of all the things About Erica. Kirk that
Speaker 3: would be the thing that would be very. Interesting now
Speaker 3: does that mean that the that The israelis killed? Him,
Speaker 3: no because the thing is, like.
Speaker 1: But you, said just the more things this tick that's.
Speaker 1: Weird and now she's talking To Barry weiss is real,
Speaker 1: asset so check this.
Speaker 3: Out so in that, interview she says that can you just.
Speaker 3: Stop can we just have this one thing for my
Speaker 3: children and for my family that everyone just leaves, alone
Speaker 3: because we're gonna be building a beautiful memorial AT tpusa
Speaker 3: To Charlie kirk where people can come and they can
Speaker 3: like they were talking about burying him because they were,
Speaker 3: like uh, yeah Like charlie hadn't been buried, yet so
Speaker 3: that we're gonna do it the memorial AT, tpusa and
Speaker 3: we're gonna put him.
Speaker 2: There, now there's a whole other line.
Speaker 3: Of conversation where people Believe charlie is actually. Alive that
Speaker 3: will suck up all of our time and we're just
Speaker 3: gonna avoid that for now because we'll do another episode
Speaker 3: of that and more goes that. Way but but, nonetheless
Speaker 3: so she's talking about they're doing this huge memorial to.
Speaker 2: Him and so but she went at candas.
Speaker 3: Directly candice had never really At erica at, all and
Speaker 3: then so Once erica went At, candace, THOUGH i was.
Speaker 4: Like, oh, man.
Speaker 3: Dude and so for the last couple of, Days candace
Speaker 3: has just been like, again after, you if you go
Speaker 3: At candace, directly you're gonna lose watch some of, this,
Speaker 3: DUDE i, TOLD i, Told and like SO tpusa first
Speaker 3: Challenged candace to a, live like on air debate where
Speaker 3: they would address all of her accusations but against T,
Speaker 3: busa and they apparently were not able to schedule, it
Speaker 3: and so everybody was, like, What LIKE i, thought you
Speaker 3: want to address all, this why would you put it
Speaker 3: on this?
Speaker 2: Day if that's like her husband's birthday or, whatever like there.
Speaker 3: Was some weird scheduling thing and then immediately and BUT i,
Speaker 3: said when that, HAPPENED i was, like these, guys you
Speaker 3: are out of your fucking.
Speaker 2: Mind you're gonna let her into your.
Speaker 3: Studio she's going to she's gonna eviscerate, you, Dude like
Speaker 3: you won't win even if even if everything you say
Speaker 3: is factually, accurate even if the truth is on your,
Speaker 3: Side she'll destroy, you like she'll fucking.
Speaker 2: Destroy she's a, dragon, dude you are a.
Speaker 1: PEASANT i, mean she gets a few things, wrong but
Speaker 1: a lot of shit that sounds crazy and then later
Speaker 1: comes true like. That i'm not gonna have to give
Speaker 1: a way in on. It but the thing In. France at,
Speaker 1: First i'm, like oh is so.
Speaker 4: Dumb THEN i watch WHEN i watched the series, too
Speaker 4: AND i was, like what the? FUCK i?
Speaker 1: Think it just sounded so. Stupid, first like oh my,
Speaker 1: god can this this is so. Embarrassing But i'm, like
Speaker 1: you know, WHAT i want to watch. It AND i was, like, Whoa,
Speaker 1: yeah it wasn't her that did the. Research she was
Speaker 1: covering other people extensive years of five. Years anyone laughs
Speaker 1: at that sheld go watch the.
Speaker 3: Series, honestly any TIME i talk to anyone about, IT
Speaker 3: i could tell like if they if they are dismissive.
Speaker 2: Of, it so you haven't watched the, series and they'll be,
Speaker 2: like NO i. Did i'm, like no you, Didn't NO i,
Speaker 2: Did And i'm, like no you. Did if you're telling
Speaker 2: me that you think that there's nothing to do, this.
Speaker 4: You have not do they admit, it BECAUSE i mean.
Speaker 3: Sometimes they do and other times they'll go on like they'll.
Speaker 3: EVENTUALLY i don't THINK i.
Speaker 4: Watched the whole, thing BUT i was just. Shocked.
Speaker 1: Me there's a lot of evidence.
Speaker 2: There is just like get.
Speaker 1: There So i'm not going to weigh, in but there
Speaker 1: is like it was, again this wasn't her. Research she
Speaker 1: just did a great job of covering it because you're the.
Speaker 1: Frenchjournalists has been multi, years multiple journal you, know in
Speaker 1: depth crazy. Research LIKE i can't remember the, details BUT
Speaker 1: i THINK i think one of them got their case
Speaker 1: overturn because originally they're trying to like arrest them.
Speaker 3: Or well they sued they sued one Or i'm, sorry
Speaker 3: one or two of the journalists In france for uh like,
Speaker 3: defamation but the actual case had nothing to do with
Speaker 3: whether or Not brigitte was born a. Man it had
Speaker 3: to do with some dates and names they got, wrong
Speaker 3: so they get to publicly say, like, oh we sued
Speaker 3: them for deformation, one but it had nothing to do
Speaker 3: with whether you know they were like a.
Speaker 1: Man but this is WHY i won't laugh at crazy
Speaker 1: Shit candace is, saying now you, know like that trying
Speaker 1: to kill. Her i'm, LIKE i watched that series AND
Speaker 1: i was blown away AND i laughed at. It Originally i'm,
Speaker 1: like oh my, god this is. EMBARRASSING i Love, Candace,
Speaker 1: yes this sucks that she is like putting out this.
Speaker 4: Nonsense THEN i.
Speaker 3: Watched it AND i was, LIKE whoa so like her
Speaker 3: her Series, actually, honestly anytime that she has actually focused
Speaker 3: energy directly at, SOMETHING i actually think Her charlie kirk
Speaker 3: work is is the is her least compelling stuff versus other.
Speaker 2: Stuff AND i think it's because she's emotional that.
Speaker 4: Because they were really close.
Speaker 1: Friends they're exactly they were closed in, fact like she's
Speaker 1: not and just trying to use his death as. BULLSHIT
Speaker 1: i hate she clearly cares about, him for. Sure guess
Speaker 1: one of my great to do like A Nickna dias got.
Speaker 1: Shot soone, Says i'm trying to use their, deaths you, Know,
Speaker 1: No you're, like, NO i want to find out now. That,
Speaker 1: YEAH i want to find ou who the fuck killed?
Speaker 1: Him and then that's a clue looking at their girlfriends
Speaker 1: and wife IF i had to on.
Speaker 2: It, Yeah And i've always, said Like i've always said THAT.
Speaker 3: I never even even IF i think she's not, CORRECT
Speaker 3: i never attack her, ever not like not because she's
Speaker 3: a fucking, dragon but BECAUSE i believe that she believes
Speaker 3: what she's.
Speaker 2: Saying and that's ALL i, Agree that's ALL i.
Speaker 1: CARE i also never Attack, candice you, know like there's
Speaker 1: something we're not close at, all but there's been a
Speaker 1: couple of times FOR dm or something like.
Speaker 4: We had very polite.
Speaker 1: Conversations oh, yeah she's a you, know it's, like, oh
Speaker 1: this is someone you can disagree with and she's not
Speaker 1: going to start attacking. Me so that was good to.
Speaker 3: See you, know i'mbarrassed myself with her actually BECAUSE i
Speaker 3: had Au so a guy sent me the an original
Speaker 3: video Of charli getting killed from this angle AND i
Speaker 3: he told me THAT i was the only person that
Speaker 3: in this video thought you were and SO i went
Speaker 3: through LIKE i have like pulled the. Cord i'm LIKE
Speaker 3: i want to get this to canvas or. Whatever and,
Speaker 3: like so she texted and she's, like, Uh she's, like,
Speaker 3: hey so you.
Speaker 2: Have something for. ME i was like.
Speaker 3: CAN I i'm, like can we jump on a call
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i was GONNA i didn't want to send it to.
Speaker 2: HER i was gonna put it. Out, Yeah and so
Speaker 2: we get on a FaceTime call AND i showed it
Speaker 2: to her and she's Like i've seen.
Speaker 1: That you're, like oh.
Speaker 3: FUCK i was like you've seen this and she's like,
Speaker 3: Yeah AND i was, like, sorry he awesome first.
Speaker 4: Impression yeah that.
Speaker 1: Sucks you, know my friend's fault though they give you
Speaker 1: awesome for you guys to. Connect, sure oh, yeah well
Speaker 1: now still could.
Speaker 3: Happen but, yeah it was just like that was my first.
Speaker 3: IMPRESSION i was fucking. Idiot that's such an embarrassing.
Speaker 1: Embarrassing so that's how embarrassing even though it's like you meant,
Speaker 1: well you're, trying you got lied to and you're just like,
Speaker 1: FUCK i don't.
Speaker 2: Like i'm not even sure if he, knew like because
Speaker 2: it was my friend In, utah.
Speaker 1: He thought he, thought, yeah he might have not legit
Speaker 1: just hadn't been seen. Yet, yeah so it was like
Speaker 1: you you meant.
Speaker 2: Well BUT i have never seen. IT i THOUGHT i had.
Speaker 3: Seen was still so embarrassed super saw and then you, know,
Speaker 3: anyway it doesn't, matter but like the but, yeah like
Speaker 3: SO i watched her series On oh My, God, like did.
Speaker 2: You Watch making A murderer On? Netflix?
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude and then they they watched so Many but
Speaker 1: THEN i saw how they left out so many crucial
Speaker 1: THAT i was guilty as.
Speaker 2: Fuck convicting a, murderer the one that's the one she.
Speaker 3: Made LIKE i literally watched, that AND i was, LIKE
Speaker 3: i had no idea that.
Speaker 2: People could be that unscrupulous and.
Speaker 3: Evil that guy tied that girl to a, bed had
Speaker 3: his nephew assault, her and then slit her. Throat and
Speaker 3: these people knew, that knew, that and then they made
Speaker 3: this entire documentary leaving things out on purpose to maybe
Speaker 3: the whole world believed that this guy was.
Speaker 2: Inizen but he fucking for, sure.
Speaker 4: For, SURE i. WOULDN'T i did some research and forget
Speaker 4: WHERE i. WHERE i looked it up.
Speaker 1: Different, things AND i can't conclusion he definitely. Did he
Speaker 1: did people in. Prison he would say evil, things how
Speaker 1: he wanted torture and rape. Women he was just a sick.
Speaker 1: Person they made him out to be. Evil what a
Speaker 1: terrible and that was such a popular. DOCUMENTARY i watched
Speaker 1: it originally like oh. Wow THEN i started Doing, YEAH
Speaker 1: i mean some, REASON i started to grow questions AND
Speaker 1: i started seeing some holes right.
Speaker 4: Away it's it's.
Speaker 2: CRAZY i don't know.
Speaker 1: WHY i started researching for some, reason you know my.
Speaker 1: Mind ONCE i see one WHO i can't. Stop that's
Speaker 1: why that's WHY i stay away From Charlie kirk, thing
Speaker 1: Because i'll go down a path for like three days
Speaker 1: NonStop WHERE i can't the ONE i had to. STOP
Speaker 1: i started getting to that child fucking you, know the
Speaker 1: sacrifice and all THAT i. Started, yeah a few other
Speaker 1: ones that started going.
Speaker 4: On some of.
Speaker 1: Those there's some that are way more compelling Than Pizza
Speaker 1: gate something, WELL.
Speaker 2: I think of Pizza gate as like just to catch
Speaker 2: all for all of.
Speaker 1: It, yeah there's like The. Finders, cool there's one In
Speaker 1: belgium that have like that one The belt that's the
Speaker 1: one that just fucked.
Speaker 2: Me, up AND i think that that one's it.
Speaker 1: Is there's, convictions but but it looks like BUT i,
Speaker 1: mean what's the name of the guy there's.
Speaker 2: This he's like the royal.
Speaker 4: Guy it's probably was. Finished This belgium case is just.
Speaker 2: Do yourself a favor of that, stuff.
Speaker 1: DON'T i fent like two days down AND i was
Speaker 1: just so disturbed that Wasn't i'm, like oh my, god
Speaker 1: this ship. Isn't there's core, conditions there's. Bodies this guy
Speaker 1: had like fifteen. Houses he was on, welfare but they're
Speaker 1: being paid for by the. Elites it was, LIKE i
Speaker 1: think like thirty people were killed in. Investigations, judges judges moved
Speaker 1: like just there was clearly kids being tortured and killed
Speaker 1: by elites In belgium.
Speaker 2: That run the.
Speaker 1: World, yes this one's one hundred percent. True unfortunate name
Speaker 1: Of joe or something like. That it's just you pretty
Speaker 1: put In. Belgium if people to look This belgium, sex
Speaker 1: satanic sat, trappening this is one hundred. Percent the police went,
Speaker 1: on they were they were covering.
Speaker 4: It thirty people were. Killed it was just.
Speaker 1: Wild they don't know exactly how many kill but for
Speaker 1: SURE i think there was like ten or, something.
Speaker 2: And was like they have these, actually you know, what
Speaker 2: let's just let's let's go that's a rabbit. Hole That,
Speaker 2: YEAH i definitely.
Speaker 1: Shock and THEN i saw some other cases in THE
Speaker 1: us that were almost.
Speaker 3: Like do once you once you take into like take
Speaker 3: it in that this is this actually, happened then you're, Like,
Speaker 3: OKAY i didn't realize that humanity was capable of, this
Speaker 3: and so then like then you start looking at all
Speaker 3: these other things in anything is, Possible you're, like if
Speaker 3: people would.
Speaker 2: Do, this if, people if there are humans on earth
Speaker 2: that would do, this.
Speaker 1: Then and you might not want to go down the rabbit,
Speaker 1: hole by the, Way, yeah don't do. It that that
Speaker 1: case In, belgium it's.
Speaker 2: It's it's not good for your heart and, brain.
Speaker 4: The darkness of. It it's just we're not going to
Speaker 4: go back To this is the darkest.
Speaker 1: Evil it's the worst thing.
Speaker 4: Ever it fucked my head up.
Speaker 3: Too but, anyway so LIKE i don't even remember where
Speaker 3: were we, were oh candas so like so In canvas's
Speaker 3: response To, erica, though like she just pointed out that
Speaker 3: What erica was, trying Like erica's core argument since she
Speaker 3: started this new press tour was like just leave it.
Speaker 3: Alone she's like he and she kept saying she's like
Speaker 3: he's my. Husband he's my. Husband and she's clearly saying
Speaker 3: like To candis like he's my husband And i'm not doing.
Speaker 3: This why are you doing? This you, know like he's my,
Speaker 3: husband why are you doing? This and it's like a
Speaker 3: h because what does that have to do with, anything
Speaker 3: like if you're not investigating? It and then she's gonna,
Speaker 3: investigate but, like, uh that is, exactly and and then
Speaker 3: she was like just let, us let us do, this
Speaker 3: and she was basically asking for, privacy And cannas is,
Speaker 3: like you're doing The Megan markle.
Speaker 2: Thing she's like you, Posted she's, like you're.
Speaker 1: Doing megan podcast for privacy.
Speaker 3: Exactly you're well and like and like you you you
Speaker 3: did a memory like you did a like a stadium event?
Speaker 2: Funeral yeah, Exactly, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: She.
Speaker 2: Did she and she put out the.
Speaker 3: VIDEO i hadn't even seen this video but like there
Speaker 3: was a camera guy over her shoulder when she is
Speaker 3: supposedly like you, know With Charlie, corpse like at the you,
Speaker 3: know and, there and she's, LIKE i miss you AND
Speaker 3: i had never seen.
Speaker 2: THAT i did a video on. It the other, Dad i'm,
Speaker 2: like what is this?
Speaker 4: Dude?
Speaker 5: Who who what real person would, Go, okay, yea make
Speaker 5: sure you film this moment Where i'm saying goodbye to my,
Speaker 5: husband like if there's if there's a more private thing than,
Speaker 5: That like no one wants to see that.
Speaker 1: EITHER i couldn't imagine going up After i'm really close
Speaker 1: to me and doing that and having them film it
Speaker 1: and then putting it up On. Instagram it's not SOMETHING
Speaker 1: i would.
Speaker 3: Do it's A i would consider that like a LIKE i,
Speaker 3: Okay so the WAY i would think about, That like
Speaker 3: if it was my wife and that, happened the idea
Speaker 3: of it being on film at all and then putting
Speaker 3: it On instagram would basically invalidate the my like the
Speaker 3: real thing THAT i had with, her like every like
Speaker 3: how that's this is like built on real, Foundation like
Speaker 3: this is like this is this is worse and no
Speaker 3: one Else's IF i filmed that moment and put it,
Speaker 3: up it would basically invalidate everything.
Speaker 2: That this, was you know WHAT i.
Speaker 3: Mean it's like like IF i would use this moment
Speaker 3: for anything other than my final goodbye to, her then
Speaker 3: it makes this not real and it's LIKE i would
Speaker 3: just Never it's like So kennice pointed that. Out she's just,
Speaker 3: like first of, ALL i would never do. That she's,
Speaker 3: like but also if you film that this whole thing's,
Speaker 3: Public she's, like you're acting like we.
Speaker 1: Can't you can't be all public and, say you, know do.
Speaker 1: PUBLIC i would agree with. That.
Speaker 3: Yeah so you, know like it's very, clearly, ah like
Speaker 3: A pr strategy Because erica is reading off of very
Speaker 3: clearly reading off of A q card in one of
Speaker 3: the like these are all like set up.
Speaker 1: Interviews give them the, questions you, know he said literally
Speaker 1: last minuted IN israeli asset back To. Tucker you mentioned
Speaker 1: him being a little. FEARED i don't want to overshare
Speaker 1: a private, conversation But i've bet A ufc a while,
Speaker 1: ago you, know came up to it to, go, oh
Speaker 1: you're my favorite, journalist AND i DON'T i hate What's
Speaker 1: he didn't know what it, was but he was so.
Speaker 1: Nice we're having like a timid. Conversation so one walks
Speaker 1: up and, Goes Jake chills to make a. Picture he, goes,
Speaker 1: wait You're Jake chills From. Twitter i'm not going to
Speaker 1: overshare our. Conversation but it's like multiple times he's be, careful,
Speaker 1: man gave me hug on his way, out like he
Speaker 1: was concerned for. Me that really put a little shock into.
Speaker 1: Me you, know what you're doing so, important.
Speaker 4: What you're doing so, Important so what you're doing so,
Speaker 4: important but, man you really need to be.
Speaker 2: Careful he knows a.
Speaker 1: Lot AND i, go fuck, TALKER i could really use
Speaker 1: some backup from. You and then not long after.
Speaker 2: That, Charlotte, yeah that's that's that would scare the.
Speaker 1: Ship we're sharing private, conversations BUT i think that's. Okay,
Speaker 1: yeah but THAT i, Mean i've never shared that, before
Speaker 1: but like several times he mentioned about my.
Speaker 4: Safety that would scare the. Ship scare the ship at
Speaker 4: me BECAUSE.
Speaker 1: I know he has ties to THE cia.
Speaker 4: Everything he would that's very aware of a lot of.
Speaker 1: Things like you, know it was people were all around.
Speaker 1: Us we're having this, conversation so some things just was
Speaker 1: a little like time to like speaking code and. Stuff
Speaker 1: but it was like he was very LIKE i could
Speaker 1: feel like he was really concerned for.
Speaker 4: Me that was like very.
Speaker 3: Wow, YEAH i JUST i just don't know anything about,
Speaker 3: it AND i just stay AND i was.
Speaker 4: One of the earliest people to speak on.
Speaker 1: It that was like early before many of the other
Speaker 1: people WERE i think things a little safer. Now but,
Speaker 1: no that's. FINE i don't blame people, that you, Know
Speaker 1: like it's like, anything you have to do a lot of.
Speaker 1: Research it is very VERY i have a.
Speaker 4: Very strong opinion on. IT i have a lot of
Speaker 4: research on.
Speaker 5: It you.
Speaker 1: KNOW i Think israel is absolutely not our. ENEMY i think,
Speaker 1: they LIKE i, SAID i think they KILLED. Jfk there's
Speaker 1: so many similarities for this With oswald be and The
Speaker 1: patsy and then he was killed By Jack, rubinstein The
Speaker 1: jewish tied and The jewish mobster who were From Mayor,
Speaker 1: lanski you, know Top jewish. MOBSTERS a lot of people
Speaker 1: will try to blame the killing on the, mob but
Speaker 1: they never say which.
Speaker 4: Mob they make.
Speaker 1: It the movie is always make it look at The Italian.
Speaker 3: Mob well they, WERE i, mean like the THE feds
Speaker 3: and The Italian mob were doing a bunch of stuff
Speaker 3: together at that, time like they, were you, know because.
Speaker 1: It's The italian mob and The italian and The jewish
Speaker 1: mob worked hand in. Hand but My lansky was like
Speaker 1: the head boss who Is.
Speaker 3: Jewish yeah, yeah but also BUT i mean like The,
Speaker 3: feds like the like THE feds and THE cia were
Speaker 3: working the mob for like they controlled the ports During
Speaker 3: World war two like, that and then they also they don't.
Speaker 1: Talk to how they're able to ship all the weapons
Speaker 1: To israel and like still our nuclear, secrets and Like
Speaker 1: Maya lansky was involved on. This he had blackmail allegedly
Speaker 1: Of Jgrew hoover because he was, YEAH i won't say that.
Speaker 1: Part he's a homosexual. Man, yes he was like sucking
Speaker 1: someone's cock on, camera And Maya lansky had had, this
Speaker 1: so like all The italian officers went to. Jail Mayor
Speaker 1: lanski ever did.
Speaker 3: WHAT i mean what like that getting leverage on people
Speaker 3: is the most effective way to get people to do
Speaker 3: what you, want because there's like you can get most
Speaker 3: people to do whatever you want for enough, money but
Speaker 3: then when you get to a certain, level these people
Speaker 3: are not moved by, money.
Speaker 2: And so it's like cacter the.
Speaker 3: Stick you can either if you kill, them then they
Speaker 3: can't do the thing that you want them to, do
Speaker 3: but if you scare them with the destruction of their entire,
Speaker 3: life they're gonna do what you.
Speaker 1: Ask, no it's that's something that they've been in the
Speaker 1: blackmail business for a. While but everybody Like, lansky Well
Speaker 1: jewish people in, particular you, know they're they're the ones
Speaker 1: that really run the blackmail. OPERATION i mean they do
Speaker 1: this in The Middle east. Too there's A Eli cohen
Speaker 1: was a massive one In. Syria i'm sure there's tons
Speaker 1: of them that aren't. Uncovered they run these massive blackmail.
Speaker 1: Operations like you see a lot of These muslim leaders off.
Speaker 1: There they're awful quiet ship. Too and also when we
Speaker 1: pay massive amounts of money To, Egypt Saudi, Arabia, jordan
Speaker 1: but it's also black. Mail like the Way trump behaves
Speaker 1: is a little.
Speaker 4: Strange you, KNOW.
Speaker 1: I think it's a couple years. AGO i can't called
Speaker 1: me conspiracy series for saying he's an initially. OPERATION i
Speaker 1: think that's pretty much agreed upon The trump The epstein WASN'T.
Speaker 3: Israeli oh, yeah, No, no that's that's Pretty, BASICLY.
Speaker 1: I was called conspiracy years ago for, that BUT i
Speaker 1: think that's became pretty clear.
Speaker 2: NOW i don't think that that's even up for debate.
Speaker 4: Anymore, no, wait, wait take nine to. Eleven we won't
Speaker 4: do that.
Speaker 3: Today yeah, yeah but, yeah but like him being him
Speaker 3: being A mussad operative is pretty much, no that's Pretty,
Speaker 3: yeah he did cross things with other governments In, russia
Speaker 3: but it was clearly working From asad ahead Of israel
Speaker 3: flew To New.
Speaker 1: YORK i believe it was like thirty three.
Speaker 2: TIMES i thought they. Met they like met once a
Speaker 2: month for like.
Speaker 1: You're flying in From israel like once a month. Exactly
Speaker 1: that's a point if you're leader Of, israel you're flying
Speaker 1: in From israel to your meet with this guy he
Speaker 1: was trying to. Hide that shows you're pretty damn. Poort
Speaker 1: that's a long, flight what is. IT i don't know
Speaker 1: how long it would, be twelve fifteen, hours, yeah and.
Speaker 3: LIKE i have and this is another rabbit, hole will
Speaker 3: stay for another. Day BUT i would literally if they were,
Speaker 3: like you have to bet your life savings On epstein
Speaker 3: killed himself or he was, murdered or he's, ALIVE.
Speaker 2: I would instantly be, like he's. ALIVE i think it's.
Speaker 1: POSSIBLE i think he's just. Washing before that said, That
Speaker 1: epstein got had walked out and left and did you
Speaker 1: see the garden fell? Asleep you, KNOW i think it's very.
Speaker 1: Possible there's some differences in the thing in the year
Speaker 1: he was either killed about, out But israel is very
Speaker 1: good protecting their, own Like Jonathan, pohlar you, know the
Speaker 1: worst buy IN us, history caused dozens of death billions of.
Speaker 1: Dollars he was giving all of their Informations. Israel they
Speaker 1: were selling some of it To. China, yeah they just
Speaker 1: did a trade for him or, something.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, first first they Blackmailed Bill. Clinton The Monica lewinsky.
Speaker 1: Thing she was, shoot that WAS i read about? That,
Speaker 1: yeah That yahoo is like release Some but then the.
Speaker 3: Way he the way he did it was he was, like,
Speaker 3: HEY i just wanted to let you know that we
Speaker 3: captured this phone called like like is if they're like protecting,
Speaker 3: Him they're, like, hey just wanted to like, hey but don't,
Speaker 3: worry it's in good, hands by the, way could you
Speaker 3: uh do this for?
Speaker 4: Us?
Speaker 1: Yeah and then The Monica Lewinsky so then that that
Speaker 1: he gave the he couldn't pardon, THEM i think because
Speaker 1: it's uh, all.
Speaker 4: Some of the people are gonna walk if he.
Speaker 2: Did.
Speaker 1: So he gave the story To Matt, Drudge jewish. Reporter
Speaker 1: he Groomed, breitbart you, know Breit bart came up with
Speaker 1: the idea of Net yahoo and uh In. Israel you,
Speaker 1: know he groomed Being.
Speaker 4: Shapiro so all these people go directly.
Speaker 1: Back to like Neat.
Speaker 4: Yahoo it's just not it's not just Their jewish long.
Speaker 3: Time, yeah BUT i just think like at that, level
Speaker 3: if if people are not partaking in blackmail, traps then
Speaker 3: they're not in the same. Game like IF i was
Speaker 3: at that, level i'd BE i would do like that would.
Speaker 2: Be a massive part of my. Operation it's a power, game.
Speaker 1: DUDE i think that's partially how they control The United.
Speaker 4: STATES i think it's how people the media.
Speaker 1: Too i've seen you talking about the media, before but
Speaker 1: the media is pretty much like ninety Percent jewish, Owned it's,
Speaker 1: sure and same with all the social media the, year Like, Google, Facebook, Instagram,
Speaker 1: YouTube i, Think, Discord. Telegram they just forced forced TikTok
Speaker 1: into the hands of A Jewish, zionist and these aren't
Speaker 1: not just judous hardcore. Zionists zuckerberg seemed to have pulled
Speaker 1: back a little bit in his. Credit you, KNOW i
Speaker 1: don't know if it's an, actronaut but he's pulled back
Speaker 1: a little bit of the. Censorship. Anyway, yeah we had
Speaker 1: a weird little flash out on Our Thanks reachtart.
Speaker 4: INTERVIEW i don't know it.
Speaker 1: Were BUT i think we mostly wrapped up The charlie
Speaker 1: racked it was that The, okay there was a weird
Speaker 1: plane that left right after the. Assassination was that the Same? Egyptian,
Speaker 1: YEAH i think it's the.
Speaker 2: SAME i don't know a lot about The egyptian plane
Speaker 2: other than. That you, know.
Speaker 1: People often Buy candice on my podcast and, see see
Speaker 1: she'll accept.
Speaker 2: It she does, like, uh, OH i don't. Know ACTUALLY
Speaker 2: i don't know what her she might.
Speaker 3: Travels, yeah, yeah, yeah because she's LIKE i, WAS i
Speaker 3: would never leave the.
Speaker 4: House.
Speaker 2: Man speaking of people that are you, know.
Speaker 3: Like have threats on their, life, man you know like,
Speaker 3: That i'm sure people would love to get.
Speaker 4: Her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, NO i mean she definitely has people that want
Speaker 1: to kill. Her she has a lot of. Haters, no
Speaker 1: it's a very.
Speaker 2: Rare she said, that you know that there was a
Speaker 2: real threat on her, life like two weeks. Ago did
Speaker 2: you hear about?
Speaker 4: That? Yeah and then so people kind of laughed it.
Speaker 1: Off but LIKE i, said, AFTER i KNOW i hadn't
Speaker 1: either see and she's it sounds, absurd but Like i've
Speaker 1: seen other things she said sound absurd turnout to be.
Speaker 2: True, HONESTLY i didn't even think it sounded.
Speaker 3: Absurd it's like if you, Know sirk was just killed,
Speaker 3: Exactly how could how could anyone take a threat on
Speaker 3: someone like? Her not, Seriously it's, like, honestly people are so.
Speaker 3: Dumb then it's like they if let's just, say let's
Speaker 3: say that she had put out some story that ended
Speaker 3: up being, false which is not what anybody's even accusing her.
Speaker 2: Of what they're accusing her of.
Speaker 3: Is, like, oh, well she takes this little fact and
Speaker 3: makes it seem like it's some big thing and makes
Speaker 3: an accusation without doing.
Speaker 2: It like no one's ever said that she's reported things
Speaker 2: that aren't.
Speaker 3: True but even if she had that you think of
Speaker 3: that means that everything she says is not. True now she's,
Speaker 3: LIKE i have a credible. THROAT i sent it to THE.
Speaker 3: Fbi here's you, know The macroons.
Speaker 4: That she believes is.
Speaker 1: Credible and she.
Speaker 3: Said that The macrones paid a million five to have her.
Speaker 3: Killed and and my thing with that, Is i'm, like
Speaker 3: if that's, true like there has to be repercussions for,
Speaker 3: that like if they actually killed, you.
Speaker 1: There's Some israeli. CONNECTION i believe, That oh yah, yah she.
Speaker 1: DID i think she.
Speaker 3: SAID i think she said that there was That macrones,
Speaker 3: paid and then there was An israeli and An israeli
Speaker 3: assassin and then A ukrainian assassin is what she. Said
Speaker 3: so there was actually a video that came out of
Speaker 3: someone who had their face all blanked out and they
Speaker 3: were like they were like they were saying that they
Speaker 3: were the. WHISTLEBLOWER i did a video about. It this
Speaker 3: person said that the that the that what the tructions
Speaker 3: were that were, given were for while she was live,
Speaker 3: streaming for them to barge in on the live stream
Speaker 3: and kill her with a.
Speaker 1: Knife like everybody's, like just look look how they Killed
Speaker 1: Charlie kirk ON Tv public KILLED Jfk.
Speaker 4: Public it's like.
Speaker 1: It sends an. Example they want they want scared and like.
Speaker 2: They, said they wanted, her they wanted her.
Speaker 3: Disemboweled while can you imagine if that actually, happened if
Speaker 3: someone went in and murdered a woman her with a
Speaker 3: knife brutally on a live Stream.
Speaker 4: America we probably wouldn't.
Speaker 2: REACT i would be like there need to Be.
Speaker 1: They killed thirty Four american soldiers and the news is
Speaker 1: covered it. Up, well this was this WAS i interviewed
Speaker 1: us IF i heard of THE Uss. Liberty he was
Speaker 1: given a gag, order threatened with like potential death penalty
Speaker 1: if he spoke About israel trying to kill.
Speaker 3: Him that's, wild BUT i think in this case that's
Speaker 3: what have been Prone Hill, Like, okay so like let's just, say,
Speaker 3: hypothetically imagine that it was The, macrones the president and
Speaker 3: the first lady paid, yeah with.
Speaker 4: Frands that's probably wouldn't that would BREAK nato for.
Speaker 3: Sure it's, like, dude they got to, die, Man like
Speaker 3: they have to die for.
Speaker 1: That BUT i bet there's an Israel a connection there,
Speaker 1: too like a person or maybe they're like Maybe i've
Speaker 1: just done a little too much investigating them and see
Speaker 1: every almost every, assassination every fucking and they've. Done they've
Speaker 1: been caught doing false flag attacks In america trying to
Speaker 1: blame other. People this is one hundred percent. Proven, recently they,
Speaker 1: well you, know actually Bombing american assets In. Egypt they
Speaker 1: got caught recently pretending like THEY'RE cia agents paying terrorists
Speaker 1: And pakistan to go BOMB i ran make it look
Speaker 1: Like america was doing it to try to get. Us,
Speaker 1: yeah so they literally do all these attacks and we're
Speaker 1: your greatest, ally we give them. Money they're just a.
Speaker 4: Parasite they offer us.
Speaker 3: Nothing valhalla is telling me that they are not actually
Speaker 3: an ally Like he's, like, no, no, no not like not
Speaker 3: like metaphorically he was saying, that like there's actually because you,
Speaker 3: know he's A Green. Beret he's like a very like
Speaker 3: like you, know, anyway he's a big. Deal i'm gonna
Speaker 3: introduce you to.
Speaker 4: Him, yeah it's.
Speaker 1: Great i'm trying to do it more of these military
Speaker 1: people and they don't have to. DO i don't know
Speaker 1: people that agree with. ME i just had A brent
Speaker 1: name that's he's good friends.
Speaker 4: About.
Speaker 1: Yeah brent was great and he disagreed with me On,
Speaker 1: israel but he was very open. Minded you, KNOW i
Speaker 1: said them some. Things he actually looked up WHAT i said.
Speaker 1: Them so WE'RE i have no problem the guys that
Speaker 1: disagree WITH i don't really Like. Brent you, know we
Speaker 1: disagree with this, issue but he was such a likable.
Speaker 1: Guy we might go do some filming, together going To
Speaker 1: dearborn together to like The muslim, thing because oh he's
Speaker 1: a lot more negative Den. Michion, YEAH i just want
Speaker 1: to see what really really is. Though so if two
Speaker 1: of us go out there together hold each other. Accountable
Speaker 1: i'm curious what it's like, there you.
Speaker 4: Know and it's.
Speaker 3: FUNNY i did a video about where because Like Jake
Speaker 3: lang was up, there you, know and he was like
Speaker 3: doing the like the oh The, muslims AND i was,
Speaker 3: like this feels like a little bit too.
Speaker 2: Convenient and then you know He's, jewish, Right that's What i'm.
Speaker 3: Saying so he sent me a bunch of stuff about,
Speaker 3: that AND i put it out in a video and
Speaker 3: he just emailed. Me he's, like how about instead of
Speaker 3: slandering my, name you let me come on your trying to assume.
Speaker 4: Me IF i don't come, on oh, REALLY i don't.
Speaker 4: KNOW i TOLD i might talk to.
Speaker 1: Him he's, like it's not being fair giving you a,
Speaker 1: Chance like you can't threaten to assume me bro to
Speaker 1: like my podcast like to you that he's assuming a
Speaker 1: bunch of other. People and, like PLUS i called You?
Speaker 1: Jewish or how are you assuming from Being jewish when
Speaker 1: your Mother's? Jewish correct? That, well, YES i was Determined. Christian,
Speaker 1: okay then that is how A jew is. Determined, YEAH
Speaker 1: i mean by the pictures of, you you, know in
Speaker 1: all the rap kissing the, Wall, like, hey maybe he's
Speaker 1: converted To christianity or maybe he's faking.
Speaker 3: It, yeah is he denying that those are? Real because,
Speaker 3: LIKE i never see not, denying BUT i. DIDN'T i,
Speaker 3: SAID i didn't say they were. REAL i, SAID i
Speaker 3: put this video INTO ai and had to analyze, it
Speaker 3: AND ai said that it's, Real LIKE i don't, know
Speaker 3: how WOULD i?
Speaker 1: Know and he went to a moss disturbing prayer and.
Speaker 1: Stuff it's, like why would you do? That that's just so.
Speaker 3: WILD i will not have him on my show ever
Speaker 3: because of how he spoke To Austin metcalf's father like
Speaker 3: that Ship LIKE i did not see.
Speaker 2: That do you know What i'm?
Speaker 4: Talking you know he tried doing a, rally SO i know.
Speaker 3: That, Yeah and he got on the phone With Austin
Speaker 3: metcalf's father kids that the guy's kid had been murdered
Speaker 3: a week, ago and he he was, like will you
Speaker 3: stand with us against the black on white?
Speaker 2: Violence that YadA, YadA and.
Speaker 4: Like try to Force the father had gone.
Speaker 3: Way out of the way to keep race out of,
Speaker 3: it and so he responded to it and he was,
Speaker 3: like you take my son's face off of any of your.
Speaker 3: STUFF i don't want to be involved in you guys
Speaker 3: the problem And Jake lang, goes, uh your weakness is
Speaker 3: going to cause the Next Austin Metcalf, sir AND i.
Speaker 1: Was, like it seems like he's trying to cause that
Speaker 1: guy and we talked about. RAYS i want to be
Speaker 1: very clear even WHEN i Say jewish, people it's Clearly
Speaker 1: i'm not speaking about All jewish. People it's a very
Speaker 1: small elite group you know that are that are doing,
Speaker 1: it and a lot of Other jewish people unfortunately kind
Speaker 1: of follow along with the narrative of oh or you,
Speaker 1: know we got to support this because We're.
Speaker 3: JEWISH i guess it's JUST i could Like i'm always
Speaker 3: wowed by how many people are completely disconnected from any of,
Speaker 3: It like where they just they're like not, online they're
Speaker 3: not looking at an idea to where like they're there
Speaker 3: and you would bring up something and they would be,
Speaker 3: like like they would have no idea what you're talk
Speaker 3: about about any of. It they're, like, DUDE i go to,
Speaker 3: WORK i come home AND i play video, games and
Speaker 3: like they just they're JUST i thought.
Speaker 1: Takes back WHEN i was fighting AND i missed those.
Speaker 1: Times you, know, YEAH i didn't. Know he's always just
Speaker 1: worried about fighting and. Girls, yeah, nothing nothing else. Mattered
Speaker 1: such great. TIMES i didn't follow politics at. ALL i
Speaker 1: didn't own A tv for like twenty.
Speaker 4: Years that's my. House it was.
Speaker 3: Great this is a great, segue BECAUSE i would let's,
Speaker 3: talk let's talk about fighting and all.
Speaker 1: That just fought and high out with friends and that beautiful.
Speaker 1: Girls that was just. Amazing it was your job to, trade. Dude,
Speaker 1: yeah but then politics got forced on. Me initially at
Speaker 1: a riot In berkeley with a, Mili aannapolis, guy AND.
Speaker 1: Tifa we attacked people AND i had to go physically fight,
Speaker 1: guys AND i tried to get cops to help, me
Speaker 1: and the cops wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Help, oh you were fighting.
Speaker 1: Antiva they were being people up all the, streets like
Speaker 1: women and, stuff you. Know and then you, know FIRST
Speaker 1: i got them. OFF i have a, girlfriend there would
Speaker 1: be SO i she's. MOUTHNOPSTIC i see the people were.
Speaker 1: DRAINED i kept on her to leave and she would
Speaker 1: have listen to. Me SO i hit a drag her
Speaker 1: back to the.
Speaker 4: CAR i saw some.
Speaker 1: Cops i'm, like, guys, guys let's go. Back we got
Speaker 1: to you, know. Help, Yeah and they're, like, oh we
Speaker 1: can't do, That like what do you, mean you can't do.
Speaker 3: That we have orders, there like It's, berkeley of, course
Speaker 3: the mayor to let the people get beat.
Speaker 1: Up and that was just that's WHEN i start falling
Speaker 1: politics a little. Bit And trump thing was just so,
Speaker 1: Funny LIKE i wasn't a big, supporter but he was
Speaker 1: just funny because it made out the liberals so. Mad
Speaker 1: and THEN covid that forced.
Speaker 4: ME covid made JUST i just.
Speaker 1: Tired from fighting and they just shut my life, down
Speaker 1: told ME i couldn't. WORK i had nothing going on
Speaker 1: at that time in my. Life they wanted me to
Speaker 1: sit around my. House and it's, like what AM i gonna.
Speaker 1: Do i'm gonna didict to the drugs or blow my
Speaker 1: fucking brains out IF i just sit around my.
Speaker 4: House, Yeah so it's LIKE i.
Speaker 1: Started THEN i got my, Car i'm go i'mna drive
Speaker 1: around country to go to national. Parks you know what they,
Speaker 1: did they shut down the national.
Speaker 2: Parks that that whole period was.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable and you, know THE ufc had a lot to
Speaker 3: do with shaping my opinion ON covid because you was.
Speaker 1: Great dana was like a Christ, dane but he was
Speaker 1: amazing DURING. Crovi, yeah he's just he's like to give
Speaker 1: him ten out of ten on covide hundred.
Speaker 3: Percent he's, Like i'm not firing my people over. This
Speaker 3: i'm gonna figure out a way to make this. Work
Speaker 3: i'll build a bubble in in In.
Speaker 2: Dubai or whatever Like Abu.
Speaker 3: Dhabi and then but the thing that really was so
Speaker 3: impactful for me was that they were the very first
Speaker 3: large public organization that was doing testing. Publicly and there
Speaker 3: were all these guys that were popping hot FOR covid
Speaker 3: and they're, LIKE i.
Speaker 1: Feel fine because it Didn't they're, like, dude, healthy it
Speaker 1: wasn't bad for healthy.
Speaker 2: People and this is.
Speaker 4: EARLY i knew that BECAUSE i. DID i was a
Speaker 4: little worried about as.
Speaker 1: In, china but when it got To, ITALY i carefully
Speaker 1: went through all the data ex at too much time
Speaker 1: and everyone's, going you're not a, doctor you can't, go
Speaker 1: and it's, like you don't need to be a doctor
Speaker 1: to sift through. Data as many of you, KNOW i
Speaker 1: have many controversial guests that comes at a cost of
Speaker 1: being demonetized. Everywhere so if you want to support the,
Speaker 1: program go to a fight backpodcast dot. Com AND i
Speaker 1: have all kinds of merch on, there whether it's jiu, jitsu,
Speaker 1: fighting political and other, accessories and thanks for the.
Speaker 2: Support, yeah, well LIKE i think.
Speaker 3: That so when it first got to The United, States
Speaker 3: Anthony smith and his Like danny and his whole, team
Speaker 3: they all got like early and it destroyed those.
Speaker 2: Guys danny was like.
Speaker 1: Train was, worse and it did suck up some people's early.
Speaker 1: Bad But i'm still not going to hide my house
Speaker 1: for a year Because i'm. Sick you, know we're all
Speaker 1: gonna die at some. POINT i.
Speaker 4: CAN'T i can't sit.
Speaker 1: Still you, KNOW i got like eighty ahd Or i'm
Speaker 1: just fucking constantly like on the, move you, know maybe too,
Speaker 1: much but that's my. Lifestyle LIKE i have to constantly
Speaker 1: be doing. Stuff and THEN i retired from, fighting have no,
Speaker 1: job no task to, do and, like, Oh you're supposed
Speaker 1: to sit at home In San francisco and you, know
Speaker 1: like a five thousand dollars one bedroom, apartment my girls
Speaker 1: working from the from the living, room And i'm supposed
Speaker 1: to just stand there all?
Speaker 4: Day, dude what kind of man is?
Speaker 2: That it's That i've Gone i'm a.
Speaker 1: Man i'm gonna be with my girlfriend working And i'm
Speaker 1: just standing around the house, jobless fucking.
Speaker 4: Unemployed like you go.
Speaker 3: From a you're like a year, ago you're like a famous, superstar,
Speaker 3: yeah and then you're and then just like, That i'm
Speaker 3: a jobless.
Speaker 4: Bum they can't leave my.
Speaker 1: House. Yep it's, like, DUDE.
Speaker 2: I think about that all the. Time for, Fighters like
Speaker 2: that's why what you're doing is, hard fucking awesome.
Speaker 3: Fighting most guys can't transition After it's some guys do
Speaker 3: a really good, job but it's so.
Speaker 4: Rare to life a Whole spanity know that some guys crush, it.
Speaker 2: But like outside of you're talking you.
Speaker 1: Guys that's Why i'm getting him filming a lot. MORE
Speaker 1: i Think nate's gonna crush. It you.
Speaker 4: Know gilberlan IS i think is funny gonna start. SHADOW
Speaker 4: i talked to.
Speaker 1: Him he is great at breaking things down for people.
Speaker 1: Downs they just don't use that much, anymore you. KNOW i,
Speaker 1: THINK i GUESS i probably should have shared the. Reason
Speaker 1: but the broadcasting thing is Like i'll tell, you but
Speaker 1: they don't use that much. Anymore but he crushes, Them Like,
Speaker 1: gilbert you don't need them, Anymore, Bro you need your own. Content,
Speaker 1: Me you And Nate nick soon hopefully we'll get the
Speaker 1: scrap pack. Together but back but back. Filming how come
Speaker 1: would that? Be like we all have our own, channels
Speaker 1: but then all constantly cross cross promote and cross. Film
Speaker 1: that'd be so, epic.
Speaker 2: Dude that's that has always been my.
Speaker 1: Opinion four brothers coming on from fighting and then make
Speaker 1: it big and podcasts like that's be the most crazy
Speaker 1: story ever.
Speaker 3: And it's a great branding thing to where like the
Speaker 3: like look think about how Like rogan was the first
Speaker 3: one and then like the people crown all of.
Speaker 4: The LANs all their.
Speaker 1: Success theovonn is. Crushing, YEAH i LOVE theo that's what
Speaker 1: the guys is just. CRUSHING i love the talcer like
Speaker 1: two guys that don't have contact THAT i would love my.
Speaker 4: Podcast, Yeah i'll get him. EVENTUALLY i could get got
Speaker 4: most of the PEOPLE i want, already like.
Speaker 2: Shop, Shot like do you Know, Brendan, yeah, yeah that's the.
Speaker 1: DEAL i al, wait get a little bigger, first you,
Speaker 1: know But i'm gonna get EVERYONE i. WANT i met
Speaker 1: the seeing a NUMBER i, met he was SUCH i
Speaker 1: came up to and didn't want to up to, him
Speaker 1: like you, know so there were second then, ever but he, goes, oh,
Speaker 1: gee exactly. WHAT i was hug me friendly, like such
Speaker 1: a such a nice. Guy we talked to him, minutes
Speaker 1: BUT i grab his.
Speaker 2: Number, YEAH i hung out with him for a couple of.
Speaker 1: Hours such a likable. Guy house LIKE i was a.
Speaker 2: KID i was With rob O'Neil at Kid.
Speaker 4: Rocks because they're On.
Speaker 1: Nashville, YEAH i THINK i want to GET i want
Speaker 1: to go To national do some seminars soon and hopefully
Speaker 1: connect with.
Speaker 4: Everyone Candice. Theo, YEAH i don't think Kid rocks for a.
Speaker 2: NUMBER i, think, yeah, dude kids you go to they
Speaker 2: gave a.
Speaker 1: NUMBER i hopefully still my.
Speaker 4: Phone.
Speaker 3: Yeah when he's, uh when he's not performing his, name
Speaker 3: he's he's at his he's at that.
Speaker 2: Bar, yeah they're, like we're going To bob's. HOUSE i
Speaker 2: didn't even know was kid.
Speaker 4: Roll you kid.
Speaker 1: Rock and then we talked on the phone when he
Speaker 1: was out of town and LIKE i was at the
Speaker 1: place and the guy is, like, hey let's call let
Speaker 1: him know you're. Hearing we tried her for a while
Speaker 1: AND i should still have this phone.
Speaker 3: Number do you know who's the biggest badass is his fucking.
Speaker 3: Wife his wife is such a savage like she so
Speaker 3: like WHEN i got, THERE i didn't really understand who was,
Speaker 3: who but she was wearing this like like she's wearing
Speaker 3: this necklace and it was, Like, okay clearly that's that's gotta,
Speaker 3: be you, know the. One but like SO i was
Speaker 3: actually talking to HER theo and someone, else and she
Speaker 3: was talking about, how for like sometimes six weeks at a,
Speaker 3: time she goes up to their other cabin and she
Speaker 3: bow hunts for all of her food. Alone what a
Speaker 3: woman by herself and she goes for six weeks and
Speaker 3: fucking bow hunts all of her. FOOD i was, like,
Speaker 3: wait like you do that by. Yourself she's, like, Yeah
Speaker 3: i'm scared of my.
Speaker 4: Wife was?
Speaker 2: Him, dude how fucking Gangsters.
Speaker 3: I've i've never heard, THAT i like like multiple. Times
Speaker 3: AND i was, like are you, like that's the most
Speaker 3: gangster Shit i've ever?
Speaker 2: Heard?
Speaker 1: Right and WHEN i get dates To nashville and let you,
Speaker 1: know it'd be fun, Trip AND i, SAID i don't
Speaker 1: have any anything confirmed with these, people but, hey we'll
Speaker 1: probably get to bed. TOGETHER i didn't want to head
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 4: With me for.
Speaker 1: Sure Yeah rob doesn't live, It ATE's friends with The,
Speaker 1: yeah oh, YEAH i was just waiting to get little bigger
Speaker 1: for ass to have, one you.
Speaker 3: Know, yeah but, yeah like the thing with the, fighters
Speaker 3: like transitioning into like the next the next phase of
Speaker 3: their life is SO i, had LIKE i relate to
Speaker 3: it so much BECAUSE i was in a, business LIKE
Speaker 3: i was, entrepreneur started a company and it just the
Speaker 3: long story ended up just it went bad at the very,
Speaker 3: end AND i, had, YOU i have no exactly LIKE
Speaker 3: i went from like this multi milliona or two bankrupt
Speaker 3: Like chapter seven.
Speaker 1: RUINS a lot of People i've seen friends have, it
Speaker 1: and some have recovered and some have just filed into.
Speaker 1: Depression and, like.
Speaker 3: OH i was depressed for. SURE i had two, kids,
Speaker 3: wife it didn't, work just. Pregnant so like when it,
Speaker 3: happened you don't feel like a man all of a.
Speaker 1: SUDDEN i.
Speaker 3: Was it's like every like my life felt like it
Speaker 3: weighed a thousand pounds every. Day LIKE i would wake
Speaker 3: up And i'd be LIKE i should.
Speaker 2: Just go back to.
Speaker 1: Sleep, YEAH i JUST i was just going back to.
Speaker 2: Sleep it's like it hurts too much to be.
Speaker 3: Awake but at the same, TIME i just like was
Speaker 3: like just doing things like trying to like doing things like.
Speaker 1: Moving because so many guys would, just, oh do drugs
Speaker 1: to kill the pain or, something you, know but it's
Speaker 1: like you got to keep yourself moving in an. Action,
Speaker 1: yeah that was.
Speaker 2: One that's, HONESTLY i.
Speaker 3: WAS i was saved by the fact THAT i was
Speaker 3: In utah during that year.
Speaker 4: AND i didn't know. Anyone how does your wife?
Speaker 2: React she's a, savage. Dude she just like she just started.
Speaker 1: Saying some guy's wife turn on the ship when they
Speaker 1: go bankrupt and like leave, them and, like.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, no she she just started, working like she
Speaker 3: started doing her business for the first time then and
Speaker 3: now she's.
Speaker 1: Awesome, hill that's awesome that she like didn't, like, yeah
Speaker 1: she kept you motivated and had your. Back so that's.
Speaker 3: Awesome that's WHAT i. Mean, like, DUDE i WOULD i
Speaker 3: would kill the world for, her and like.
Speaker 1: That's amazing that that's what shed by. You you, Know,
Speaker 1: yeah that that's the moment when you find out when
Speaker 1: you go, bankrupt is it like does she really love?
Speaker 4: You you, know WELL i.
Speaker 1: HADN'T i had no money when she married, me like
Speaker 1: actually already liked you.
Speaker 2: And then and then you.
Speaker 1: Know already, yeah if you're like already like, wealthy and
Speaker 1: famous and stuff like that to me girls you, know,
Speaker 1: yeah they, Said Luckily i'm good at reading, people but,
Speaker 1: YEAH i could always know the ones like, yeah this
Speaker 1: girls is around for the.
Speaker 3: Fame yeah, YEAH i, mean because that's super intoxicating for,
Speaker 3: people where it's, like, uh it's like the, shortcut you,
Speaker 3: know like for you to get, famous you had to
Speaker 3: grind your balls off earn the fame and then but
Speaker 3: now it's, yours where like people can just kind of
Speaker 3: like latch onto someone who's already earned it and then
Speaker 3: they can get.
Speaker 1: It any more famous you, get the more they latch.
Speaker 1: On AND i had a twenty year, career so that
Speaker 1: was my whole. Identity ALL i, did ALL i thought,
Speaker 1: ABOUT i Was jake The, fighter and LIKE i just
Speaker 1: lost my identity the, thing but like, you the people
Speaker 1: still call me the. FIGHTERS i didn't really lose my.
Speaker 1: Identity but but but you don't realize that when you walk,
Speaker 1: away like once you're, champion everyone's always like your.
Speaker 4: FIGHTERS i chucked The dell, years it's Still chuck The. Fighter,
Speaker 4: yeah SO.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that in my mind, though THAT i
Speaker 1: was always going to.
Speaker 3: Be but the other thing about you specifically is that
Speaker 3: you are so respected in the jiu jitsu, community and
Speaker 3: the jiu jitsu community is. Different there's no one ever
Speaker 3: ages out of JITs just because of the complexity of
Speaker 3: the martial. Art that's to where you walk into a
Speaker 3: jiu jitsu place and everyone's, like that's Fucking jake shields
Speaker 3: because it's like it's about the.
Speaker 1: Knowledge and anywhere around the, world by the, way anywhere
Speaker 1: in the BROTHERHOOD i, Have i'll post a picture in
Speaker 1: a random, country MY dms will be, fooled, like you, know,
Speaker 1: proved doesn't matter WHERE i. Am you Know, Asia, oh
Speaker 1: let me show you. Around it's just like walking in a.
Speaker 1: Gym it's just that's an amazing brotherhood and anyone of
Speaker 1: those JITs you can get it to an, extent not
Speaker 1: to the extent of maya high, level but like you
Speaker 1: can walk into a gym and just have a. Brotherhood
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what race you. Are it doesn't have.
Speaker 2: Somebody does a round with, you they're, like, oh he
Speaker 2: knows what he's.
Speaker 1: Doing, No it's like there's zero racism in like fighting
Speaker 1: a jiu jitsu because when someone's punching you in the,
Speaker 1: face they don't.
Speaker 4: Care if they're.
Speaker 1: Black IF i got A japanese dude trying to beat my,
Speaker 1: Ass LIKE i used to fight In.
Speaker 4: Japan they used to have badass fighters out.
Speaker 1: There unfortunately they fallen, off but you followed the ports
Speaker 1: for a, while The japanese. Area, Yeah i'm fighting Guys hayato. Soccer,
Speaker 1: unfortunately no remember some.
Speaker 2: DUDE i THOUGHT i remember.
Speaker 4: Him he was number two in the. WORLD i was completely.
Speaker 1: Known flew out Of. Japan first time on a plane to,
Speaker 1: Fight heyato. SOCCER i was just me And Nick diaz
Speaker 1: have never been on a.
Speaker 4: Plane oh you've never been on a.
Speaker 1: Plane heither of us. Had Bro we were just these
Speaker 1: poor little. KIDS i went out there to. FIGHT i
Speaker 1: actually KNOW i had at that point the first time Went.
Speaker 1: Japan don't THINK i, had BUT i had things into
Speaker 1: why to.
Speaker 3: Fight so you're like you're you're used to like like
Speaker 3: driving to your like small.
Speaker 2: Events and then there's the first. Time he actually stadium
Speaker 2: In japan was first stadium.
Speaker 1: Fight, yeah mass, data mass. STADIUM i gave me two weeks.
Speaker 1: Notice they were bringing me in to. LOSE i think they.
Speaker 1: Had Nick diaz was cornering. Me he'd never be. Anywhere,
Speaker 1: yeah one, huge just massive.
Speaker 4: Upset it was DO i not remember?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 1: Right to, me everyone they went by, submission no, Decision,
Speaker 1: like to, me that's what moral. Fights everyone, remembers Like Dan,
Speaker 1: Henderson Robbie lawler Or Damian. Mayah but to, me it's
Speaker 1: like hyatto. SOCCER i went To. Japan it's like that's
Speaker 1: what it's. LIKE i believe myself for it. Then but to,
Speaker 1: ME i think the money was a, joke like twenty
Speaker 1: twenty thousand. Dollars BUT i was so. Broke i'm, LIKE
Speaker 1: i got, money, Money i've got the money, now like oh, yeah.
Speaker 4: EXACTLY i was like.
Speaker 1: So, poor just teaching a little jiu jitsu to, survive
Speaker 1: trying to make. It AND i was at a period
Speaker 1: where no one wanted to fight me because they KNEW
Speaker 1: i was good but have a big name yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah so because and they know you have such a
Speaker 3: you like like the guys who are like, specialists it's
Speaker 3: such a weird like dynamic because they think they have an.
Speaker 2: Advantage you, know they're, like, oh IF i can keep it,
Speaker 2: standing LIKE i have this huge. Advantage but then they.
Speaker 3: Know they're like if he fucking grabs a hold of my,
Speaker 3: leg LIKE i have no Chance, OKAY i can't.
Speaker 4: Win that's why me And Damian maya was such an interesting.
Speaker 1: Fight he, was you, know five time world champion jitsu
Speaker 1: before he's you know a lot of people say he's the.
Speaker 4: Best grappler of all.
Speaker 1: Time but then in may AND i got there and
Speaker 1: just grappling. Match you, know you have to understand fighting
Speaker 1: to appreciate that. Fight but this is such an epic.
Speaker 3: BATTLE i love Watching LIKE i when BEFORE i started doing,
Speaker 3: JITs you, know like however long, ago LIKE i used
Speaker 3: to like when when they were like all these like
Speaker 3: jiu jitsu, EXCHANGES i was always, like oh my, god
Speaker 3: punch each.
Speaker 2: Other and now THAT i do, JITs you.
Speaker 4: Have to understand.
Speaker 2: IT i love watching Me maya, right it is.
Speaker 1: Prime my, prime just such an epic battle with a
Speaker 1: guy with a with a great like. That people just
Speaker 1: don't Like Tyrone woody right in his prime Like, lalla
Speaker 1: like Just henderson crazy the. Legends, YEAH i had like
Speaker 1: a seven year, streak right and lose a. Fight imagine
Speaker 1: how that. FEELS i feel like a. God you, know
Speaker 1: you're just LIKE i can't.
Speaker 3: Be you're fighting guys like you get locked in a
Speaker 3: cage with another man who does nothing but trained to
Speaker 3: fight and you fucking.
Speaker 1: Win, yeah he was like a five streak period and
Speaker 1: get punched suing Like lawlla or just.
Speaker 3: Great what was your technique to like to h to
Speaker 3: close the distance and grab like you, know it's like
Speaker 3: like these guys who were like.
Speaker 2: Strikers did you have this something really?
Speaker 1: Good jab really good left liver kid and then you
Speaker 1: jump in and the like With. Lawla it's. Weird do
Speaker 1: you watch the Announcing it Was Frank. Shamrock you hated.
Speaker 1: Me he's acting Like i'm getting smoked my, feet But
Speaker 1: i'm picking apart my. Feet, yeah he clunched with me
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i hit him with the butt LIKE i kicked
Speaker 1: him with liver, kick AND i heard him because these
Speaker 1: are all the things you filling you're in. There so to,
Speaker 1: Me i'm, like oh, YEAH i just dominated the stand
Speaker 1: up and then He lawla forced to. Clinch that's WHY
Speaker 1: i hit this beautiful jump being flying guillotine and you,
Speaker 1: know submitted. Him.
Speaker 2: DUDE I Paul Paul Paul.
Speaker 1: Daily that guy's got.
Speaker 2: That guy's gotta out nuclear right.
Speaker 1: Hand, yeah Watched diaz versus H. Paul that's my favorite.
Speaker 1: ONE i love that it's a favorite one round five
Speaker 1: of all. Time you, know, LIKE.
Speaker 3: I just love How nick fought in that, period How
Speaker 3: nick fought was Fucking.
Speaker 4: Nixon absolutely just an absolute, legend that.
Speaker 2: Guy.
Speaker 1: BRO i Love nick so. Much, yeah so such such a.
Speaker 1: Legend we're literally like. Brothers it's like this brotherhood because
Speaker 1: we all came up really poor, together like no other,
Speaker 1: options and we all stood together the whole, time and
Speaker 1: there was different times where one of us were famous
Speaker 1: and the other ones win, it and we were all
Speaker 1: truly everybody, ready and other gyms aren't like that someone's
Speaker 1: getting the fame and everyone's. Jealous we were so happy
Speaker 1: with someone else to get in the. Fame Like nate's
Speaker 1: turned into the super he's turned into a mainstream celebrity,
Speaker 1: now And i'm so happy for. Him it's not, like,
Speaker 1: oh why Is nate more famous than? Me it's, like
Speaker 1: it's fucking awesome that my fucking little. Brother because it's
Speaker 1: like me And nick like the. Generals AND i was
Speaker 1: LIKE i And gilbert like our little. Brothers it's like
Speaker 1: that sounds kind of, weird but just BECAUSE i was,
Speaker 1: like we were like the fucking you guys were seniors high.
Speaker 1: School they were like, yeah freshman or. So, yeah they
Speaker 1: were only three or four years younger than. Us for
Speaker 1: at the, time you, know we were so. Young H
Speaker 1: nate was sixteen AND i was like twenty AND i
Speaker 1: was like twenty. One so it's like a big age
Speaker 1: difference at the.
Speaker 3: TIME i know those guys started fighting like pro so early,
Speaker 3: Too and how old were you your first first pro fight.
Speaker 4: And like twenty one or twenty?
Speaker 1: Two fucking crazy, young and Like nate, Was nate was what?
Speaker 1: Eighteen i'm Sorry nick was you made him fight at?
Speaker 1: SIXTEEN i don't know if there were a sanction FIGHTS i.
Speaker 1: Saw i've seen a video of him fighting at, sixteen
Speaker 1: and we were so he.
Speaker 4: Choked was so hard On.
Speaker 1: NATE i was thinking went back one, day like if
Speaker 1: he wouldn't been, SUCCESSFUL i feel like we abused. Him
Speaker 1: but Like nate was more scared of me And nick
Speaker 1: than anything, Else so whatever we told him he.
Speaker 4: Did he just he just shut up and.
Speaker 1: Listened, yeah because he's like way more scared of my,
Speaker 1: brother and, you like you tell me to get in
Speaker 1: cage so.
Speaker 2: We can make.
Speaker 1: Sixteen were making him some guy comes in and you
Speaker 1: make him just fighting grown men in the. Cages and.
Speaker 3: Ship, dude that's so crazy he said that because like,
Speaker 3: SO I i trained Under shunji and awesome and we're super.
Speaker 2: Legit, yeah And, victor Like, victor he gonna get me
Speaker 2: my blue.
Speaker 3: Belt and THEN i had AND i moved To shuny's
Speaker 3: gym just because its closer to my house And i've
Speaker 3: been there for LIKE i don't, know.
Speaker 2: Like three years or.
Speaker 1: Something phenomenal options because, yeah there's forces intructers aren't that,
Speaker 1: great but, yeah it's a big difference when you have
Speaker 1: an a lead.
Speaker 4: Instructor.
Speaker 2: Dude That's that's one thing THAT i don't.
Speaker 3: Like people don't realize is like jiu jitsu is one
Speaker 3: of the only sports where you can just choose to
Speaker 3: train with one of the absolute greatest of all. Time
Speaker 3: if they just do a little bit of research and,
Speaker 3: right people will train with you real.
Speaker 1: Quick we should talk about you heard about The moneyburg.
Speaker 1: Controversy i'm sure, Right oh, Yeah Derek mouneyburg, right let,
Speaker 1: ME i would?
Speaker 2: Him let, Me, like, dude he can prove. It i'm
Speaker 2: a purple.
Speaker 1: Bude he can come get.
Speaker 2: It you got to regret, that, Dude i'll take if he.
Speaker 2: Listen if it's just.
Speaker 1: Funny all the guys calling him. Out He's fox coming
Speaker 1: up right.
Speaker 2: If he beats, me, Like i'll just be like good
Speaker 2: and anybody hides.
Speaker 1: Him he hired twenty like world. Champions yeah, no, NO
Speaker 1: i come and train him and do, like you, know
Speaker 1: four or five. Hours so imagine if you're eating that
Speaker 1: much WHAT i want tention and he's paying really, well
Speaker 1: so you're gonna.
Speaker 4: Really try to get the guy good because he's like
Speaker 4: treating you really well.
Speaker 1: Too he's extremely. Respectful he never despectful anyone. Like i've
Speaker 1: never seen him be.
Speaker 4: Dissruve you.
Speaker 1: Know he Has Gordon ryan out of his place all the.
Speaker 1: Time used to Have mikey Muse, mechi Which Michael musemeschi
Speaker 1: used was praising how great he, was but then he
Speaker 1: started getting attacked.
Speaker 4: For, it and then he like and they got a.
Speaker 1: Fucked. UP i feel Bad MIKE'S i Like mikey because
Speaker 1: he's because he was fighting, hard And Derek si'd be, like,
Speaker 1: no this guy is so fucking good and then he
Speaker 1: just got pressured into so this is.
Speaker 3: Out i'll take exactly what my thought, was, LIKE i,
Speaker 3: Mean i've never, DUDE i don't know how good he
Speaker 3: IS i just, like with a lot of.
Speaker 1: Guys that are calling him, OUT i know for a
Speaker 1: Fact derek will destroy the guy's calling Only i'm never
Speaker 1: tamed for, you, listen don't LIKE i can't, say But
Speaker 1: i've just Seen.
Speaker 4: Derek he's also a big fucking.
Speaker 2: GUY i know he looks. Huge two forty to sixty two.
Speaker 1: Seventy, yeah he looks, huge strong as. Fuck, yeah LIKE
Speaker 1: i don't, know squad like a thousand thousand pounds or something. Like,
Speaker 1: yeah like if you go to The Dragon's, layer which
Speaker 1: is the bibling, limb and he's put more weight up
Speaker 1: than almost anyone, there and that's all the.
Speaker 2: Power, yeah he looks big and. Strung let me tell.
Speaker 1: You, Okay i'm trying to give him a, Fight SO
Speaker 1: i think that people are going to be.
Speaker 4: In for a fucking.
Speaker 2: Shoute i'll take. That i'll take it because here's the.
Speaker 2: THING i don't.
Speaker 3: Like IF i, Lose, LIKE i don't, Care Like i'm not,
Speaker 3: Like i'm not gonna go into a fight with the
Speaker 3: Dude i've never seen live and be All i'm gonna
Speaker 3: fuck this guy.
Speaker 1: UP i would Just i'll be the guinea Big i'm
Speaker 1: the guy's talking about. Ship he takes one Of he's
Speaker 1: trying to get a Matter Sean, strickland But Sean tricklin
Speaker 1: keeps declining. It so, wait he he wants to Fight
Speaker 1: sean Like, Sean so obviously he has to pick sewn
Speaker 1: over you Because sean is if you gets a, choice
Speaker 1: wants The he also offers the train in. Private they're
Speaker 1: both out at the camp with.
Speaker 3: Doesn't he want to win, Though like it's like he's
Speaker 3: got a better chance against me that he doesn't Get sean.
Speaker 1: Probably BUT i think he's got you, know He seawan's the, name,
Speaker 1: yeah because you, think what do you think people could be, like,
Speaker 1: oh Well derek paid him or. Something that's. True that
Speaker 1: that's the dilemma Of i'm going against the no name.
Speaker 1: Guys get someone with a, name, yeah even if he's
Speaker 1: they'll probably say he paid. Him, yeah because, normally like
Speaker 1: like they were at this training camp. Together he goes
Speaker 1: talk how we go to the gym and train right, Now,
Speaker 1: Yeah sean didn't show. Up so IF i call someone
Speaker 1: a fake black belt and they asked me to train with,
Speaker 1: Him i'll go train with.
Speaker 3: Them that's the thing is, Why like that's IF i
Speaker 3: Was that's ALL i would be. Doing it's, like, Okay
Speaker 3: i'm a fake black, Belt like let's record it and like.
Speaker 1: You, yeah, well people say put videos, out but he
Speaker 1: can't put videos out of the world champion and.
Speaker 4: Stuff if he's doing, well.
Speaker 2: Like that's like, yeah, Yeah i'll tell.
Speaker 1: He's Gonna he's in kind of a. Bind you go
Speaker 1: to random, GYMS i guess and rural, people but you
Speaker 1: can't like. Either you can't like go and take like
Speaker 1: your world champions and take your good moments AND i
Speaker 1: put those. Online that would be like.
Speaker 2: Disrespectful, correct here's.
Speaker 3: Here i'll tell you exactly what my thought process on
Speaker 3: it is without knowing how good he actually.
Speaker 2: Is is like so if the if the positioning that.
Speaker 3: Is like that the reason he's a black, belt why
Speaker 3: he so legitimates because he's had a lot of one
Speaker 3: on one attention from.
Speaker 1: So Many world Championship like you're gonna write all their best.
Speaker 3: PIECES i would say that it's it wouldn't matter, though
Speaker 3: because he doesn't, Spark like how how does he gain
Speaker 3: the muscle memory to be able to like implement, that
Speaker 3: because like you could tell me like LIKE i remember
Speaker 3: he was just.
Speaker 4: Far that's completely not.
Speaker 1: True, oh he sparks like all like the top frozen going.
Speaker 2: There but that's WHAT i. Saying he's he's going against
Speaker 2: like guys like.
Speaker 1: Me you guys get you guys literally going against the
Speaker 1: best in the, world like all the.
Speaker 4: Time, guy they're just GIVING i think black, belts regular
Speaker 4: Black volte to.
Speaker 1: Me i'm gonna have out like this over and.
Speaker 2: OVER i. Know that's my, point is What i'm telling.
Speaker 1: You this guy is a lot better than most Black.
Speaker 1: Volts oh really, yeah way better than most black not even.
Speaker 1: Close it's like it's.
Speaker 2: Just some kind of fucking freak. Out he gets so,
Speaker 2: Good like he's.
Speaker 1: Surprisingly, athletic which shocked me because he doesn't look. Athletic
Speaker 1: and he's like highly. Intelligent and you're spending That let's, say,
Speaker 1: like let's look look this. Way let's say me and
Speaker 1: you both you're gonna get good at, tennis you, know
Speaker 1: AND i spend fifty million dollars in higher the best
Speaker 1: coaches in the world and spend three or four hours
Speaker 1: and you go to some random tennis, thing you, know
Speaker 1: three times a.
Speaker 4: Week who's gonna get?
Speaker 1: Better?
Speaker 3: Yeah, NO i, Agree but, like, like, well what about
Speaker 3: PEOPLE i like train six days a, week for like
Speaker 3: seven years under one guy who's like the best, ever
Speaker 3: and they do that's all they.
Speaker 2: Do that's that's.
Speaker 1: Fair BUT i think THE i think people don't realize
Speaker 1: the one on one attention to how much that. Helps
Speaker 1: and you're not getting you can get a little one
Speaker 1: one attention to, those but when you're like actually having
Speaker 1: somebody to move to you and then you're like it
Speaker 1: doesn't feel quite, right THAT'S i, mean that's the trouble
Speaker 1: and you're, troubleshooting trying to master the. Loop and he's
Speaker 1: done this with a lot of different, people so you're
Speaker 1: like getting like hours of trouble.
Speaker 4: Shooting regular people don't get.
Speaker 2: That but the, thing, okay that's. Fair here's here's my.
Speaker 1: PUSH i had a tennis coach and he was just
Speaker 1: perfecting the, world the best tennis coach in the. World
Speaker 1: and you're randomly at some, GYM i have a Feeling
Speaker 1: i'm going to smoke. You even if you play for
Speaker 1: ten years randomly And i've played for, Four.
Speaker 3: I'm in no position to, to uh to push back
Speaker 3: on your ability to analyze people's fucking jiu jitsu at.
Speaker 2: All that's. Why AND i would.
Speaker 1: Regular black GIRLS i trained with he's matches these.
Speaker 3: Guys, yeah because like that's, HONESTLY i have this conversation
Speaker 3: with with a couple of.
Speaker 2: Guys to, me it's like the biggest.
Speaker 1: Controversy but everyone on the trains with them is, like
Speaker 1: like Even Gordon, ryan they asked. Him Gordon ryan goes,
Speaker 1: LIKE i don't, KNOW i think most black belts suck really.
Speaker 2: Bad but that's exactly WHAT i was gonna.
Speaker 4: Say but but but he goes compared to regular black,
Speaker 4: belt he's.
Speaker 3: Better so like WHAT i but, like for you, guys
Speaker 3: this is like what most people don't understand about jiu
Speaker 3: jitsu is like it's to your point about having elite
Speaker 3: coaching versus like another Martialized like so you cant like
Speaker 3: a person who learns how to you, know do muity
Speaker 3: learn how to properly throw around?
Speaker 2: Kick they, know like you, know and all all those.
Speaker 3: Things like there's only so much you can teach a
Speaker 3: person and then they just have to practice and figure
Speaker 3: out timing in space with with jiu, jitsu it is
Speaker 3: literally an algorithm of a million options and people have
Speaker 3: to build their own game with all of these pieces
Speaker 3: and put it all. Together and so like if if
Speaker 3: a person is significantly better than another person in jud
Speaker 3: you they're gonna win every single, time like every time
Speaker 3: unless unless this one pity.
Speaker 1: When people the gym have never tapped. Me it, is you, know,
Speaker 1: years there's not very many people that have tapped. Me
Speaker 1: you know there's Guys i've trained with multiple years and
Speaker 1: not one time tapped.
Speaker 2: Me, dude that is the.
Speaker 1: Norm you, know it's rare if someone has tapped, me it's, like, Wow,
Speaker 1: yeah there is one. Guy you, know this, Kid Jordan
Speaker 1: worth's tapped me a couple times and you're like smaller
Speaker 1: than me AND i wreck. Him but he just has
Speaker 1: these crazy smissions that have a couple of times to
Speaker 1: get a little lazier or. Something you just never put
Speaker 1: me in a fucking that retarded choke while your arm
Speaker 1: goes around from side mount AND i just didn't respect.
Speaker 4: It what's that choke called the buget buggy?
Speaker 3: CHOKE i was just gonna, say, DUDE i felt threw
Speaker 3: me in a buggy choke the other.
Speaker 1: Day my friend almost kicked disass after he did that
Speaker 1: motherfucker just buggy. Choke this is like so. Humiliating it
Speaker 1: was just in, training but still it's like.
Speaker 3: It comes out of nowhere because no one had ever done,
Speaker 3: it like this white belt. Kid this is This japanese
Speaker 3: guy my gym THAT i, mean, LIKE i, mean, YEAH
Speaker 3: i JUST i, MEAN i smashed this kid, obviously but
Speaker 3: HE i felt, it And i'm, like AND i felt
Speaker 3: it before Because, philippe most.
Speaker 4: Guys aren't good at.
Speaker 3: Those, yeah they just he just thought he got third
Speaker 3: AT acc, Anyway but he's the only Person i'd ever
Speaker 3: felt put a buggy on. You, now he could submit
Speaker 3: me any anybody he, wants but HE'S i had belt it.
Speaker 4: Though it was a serious.
Speaker 3: Move and so WHEN i was on this guy AND
Speaker 3: i felt, It i'm, Like, Okay i'm, like what the
Speaker 3: fuck is going?
Speaker 2: On is he trying to buggy choke? Me SO i
Speaker 2: threw an elbow into his throat and then broke out.
Speaker 4: That that's what that's WHAT i.
Speaker 1: Do but for the reason if they come they catch
Speaker 1: put me on their, face because it's kind of disrespectfully
Speaker 1: trying to buggy choke, Me like Sometimes i'll grind my
Speaker 1: knee and people's face really hard being let, go he told,
Speaker 1: Me AND i couldn't get it on his, face AND
Speaker 1: i was just so pissed After, yeah he, took but
Speaker 1: THEN i had to like.
Speaker 3: Having a good buggy though people don't see it coming
Speaker 3: because like you're inside.
Speaker 2: Control you don't feel to.
Speaker 4: Dange everyone with him for a.
Speaker 1: Second it was, funny but it wasn't funny when he got.
Speaker 1: ME i want to suck him, up getting mad thinking
Speaker 1: about it a little.
Speaker 3: Fucker he's good, Though, yeah once once you know someone has,
Speaker 3: it then it's like you're, there but they'll catch. You
Speaker 3: people don't if you don't like it's so, rare you
Speaker 3: have to be so. Flexible it seems like that like You.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's, Uh i've never. Popular right now people been
Speaker 1: hitting it, again but it's the most.
Speaker 4: RUDE i hate.
Speaker 3: It well after After craig did it To chail, twice
Speaker 3: like you, know, UH i talked To chaiale about that
Speaker 3: AND i was, like, UH i just was like that
Speaker 3: whole thing was fucking, awesome and and then Asked hi
Speaker 3: About he's, like, Dude he's, LIKE I i actually don't
Speaker 3: think That craig even meant to put me to. Sleep he's,
Speaker 3: like he's, like it's The he's, like it's the craziest.
Speaker 3: Feeling he's like because.
Speaker 2: It's like a Gentle he's like it's almost like gentle,
Speaker 2: Out LIKE i.
Speaker 1: Never in trouble with that's happening. With the guy had me, like,
Speaker 1: oh this isn't gonna. Work AND i started felling, fading
Speaker 1: AND i tried to get my knee in his face
Speaker 1: AND i cut. It i'm not picking m up and slamming.
Speaker 1: Them BUT i didn't ye en trying to like spike his.
Speaker 1: Head But i'm like it was jiu, jitsu SO i
Speaker 1: didn't do.
Speaker 3: That, Yeah, yeah it's, weird how like like if you
Speaker 3: had caught in something that like you're not used to
Speaker 3: being caught. In, Like SO i was fighting in a
Speaker 3: tournament one time AND i was fighting against this dude
Speaker 3: who was like six five and he was just super,
Speaker 3: skinny AND i was IN i was in a high
Speaker 3: knee shield half, guard AND i fight out of that
Speaker 3: position all the, time and all of a, SUDDEN i
Speaker 3: started seeing.
Speaker 2: STARS i was, like what the fuck is going?
Speaker 3: On AND i was like how Is LIKE i couldn't
Speaker 3: figure out what was going. On and THEN i was
Speaker 3: like about to go, out and SO i tapped AND
Speaker 3: i was so, embarrassed LIKE i was just, like what
Speaker 3: the fund just?
Speaker 2: Happened, dude he like darsed.
Speaker 3: Me he's like his it LIKE i still, like you'd
Speaker 3: have to see the. Video but it was because he
Speaker 3: was so.
Speaker 4: Tall that there was no long.
Speaker 3: Arms, YEAH i THOUGHT i was completely safe and he
Speaker 3: was choking me AND i didn't even realize.
Speaker 4: It it was like there was.
Speaker 1: This guy that trained, It John donnaers In New. YORK
Speaker 1: i think to go Training downers In New. York he
Speaker 1: had the nastiest fucking darshow his regular game was like you,
Speaker 1: know pretty it, everywhere but he had like slept everyone
Speaker 1: with at least like once in training in the in the,
Speaker 1: DARKS i have trouble my. SHOULDERS i started doing my dars.
Speaker 1: DIFFERENTLY i was with The Toler brothers In hawaii and
Speaker 1: asked them a couple of. QUESTIONS i made some, changes,
Speaker 1: bro and it's been fucking darsing. Everyone Now i'm going
Speaker 1: like shallower with it BECAUSE i DON'T i don't have
Speaker 1: real long, arms So i'm choking right. Here you try
Speaker 1: to put it deeper and going shallow now and LIKE
Speaker 1: i WISH i had, MATCH.
Speaker 3: I show you after it's it's, Sick, like, dude you
Speaker 3: showed me someone with the arm triangle last, Time like
Speaker 3: REMEMBER i was At caizars because, uh Because hodger was
Speaker 3: supposed to do that seminar And caesars and then you
Speaker 3: guys are like, yeah and then you were showing a
Speaker 3: detail on your arm triangle AND i started doing that and,
Speaker 3: LIKE i, LIKE i choked. DANGER i choked the dude
Speaker 3: with it on a in a tournament and it, was,
Speaker 3: uh the guy after like they like afterwards because that's
Speaker 3: the first TIME i had gone full throttle with, it you,
Speaker 3: know and uh, afterwards like he instant tapped and then you.
Speaker 1: Do it, right You, yeah most people would do it slightly.
Speaker 4: Wrong.
Speaker 1: YEAH i think my arm triangle is like, ELITE i would,
Speaker 1: say one of the best in the.
Speaker 2: World, yeah oh, dude you're.
Speaker 3: YEAH i can't, imagine like when you go one hundred
Speaker 3: percent on that thing that people JUST i, mean it's.
Speaker 1: Nasty so it's like that's one of the, that you,
Speaker 1: know the guard passing And john down here at one
Speaker 1: time with, me you had the best guard passing in
Speaker 1: a history and. Huh AND i thought about, it And i'm, like, oh,
Speaker 1: ship and first of knowing and knowing known respects card,
Speaker 1: passes but thought about, It i'm, like, YEAH i guess he's.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah well he respected our passing for.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah but that was such a comment from Johnno.
Speaker 1: Fair he doesn't really give very many, compliments but he
Speaker 1: just kind of randomly just dropped out and sitting, there
Speaker 1: and it's, LIKE.
Speaker 3: I love guys like, that who are who keep the
Speaker 3: compliments like real tight to the best album because like
Speaker 3: very often, exactly, YEAH i got so when you get,
Speaker 3: him you really appreciate. It, yeah my Buddy, steve he's, like,
Speaker 3: uh he's actually the person who got me just like start.
Speaker 3: Training he's a he's actually the guy who's texting you
Speaker 3: about who's In stockton right. Now and he's a multi
Speaker 3: Time uh.
Speaker 4: He trained with his brothers or anything out there In.
Speaker 3: Stockton well that's HOW i was textually he he yesterday
Speaker 3: was looking for somewhere to train AND i was ship but,
Speaker 3: yeah but yeah right, Now, yeah he's, uh He's victor
Speaker 3: who goes business Part He's victor And shunji's business. Partner
Speaker 3: he's a Black, yeah he's an incredible black, belt Like
Speaker 3: i've never even.
Speaker 2: Passed, yeah there's such a.
Speaker 1: Range and black belts to do. Understand it's like when
Speaker 1: you get the elite black belts regular black belt is
Speaker 1: like it would come in you, know it's.
Speaker 3: There's it's there's there's this big of a difference between
Speaker 3: like a whatever black belt and an elite black, belt
Speaker 3: as there is a black belt and a white.
Speaker 1: Belt, yeah like right, Now i'm not training is at,
Speaker 1: hard but like the people and trainning all the, time
Speaker 1: it's hard to even tell because you're just tapping people so.
Speaker 1: Easily it's like hard to that's my pushback on. Money
Speaker 1: but that's the thing that's my push money easy is the.
Speaker 2: Point it's BECAUSE i, mean.
Speaker 1: You know he's big. Jew that's, fair but like he's
Speaker 1: giving people trouble trust. Me yeah that Was but that's
Speaker 1: WHAT i was, saying him tap out some good. PEOPLE
Speaker 1: i was, saying, LIKE i, DON'T i, mean you can't
Speaker 1: like drop names of people he taped the. Problems i'm saying,
Speaker 1: that But i've seen him tap outsand people that would
Speaker 1: people would be.
Speaker 2: Shocked, YEAH i.
Speaker 3: Believe, it believe it at that but, yeah LIKE i
Speaker 3: but AGAIN i was, LIKE i don't think That jake
Speaker 3: And gordon can maybe tell how good a person is
Speaker 3: because they're so much better than.
Speaker 1: Everybody but well that's the point, though if someone starts
Speaker 1: giving you in a little bit of.
Speaker 4: Trouble you're, like that's.
Speaker 1: Shit this guy must be good because the regular back.
Speaker 4: Doesn't give me the.
Speaker 2: Trouble just walked through their.
Speaker 4: Guard turn, here tap with, this tap you with, that and.
Speaker 3: To push, Back like if anybody wanted to, Know, oh he's,
Speaker 3: like he's too, Sixty like that doesn't it does help,
Speaker 3: them it, helps.
Speaker 4: But, Anyways i'm, all it does certainly, help but.
Speaker 2: Being too sixty is not enough to overcome your jiu.
Speaker 1: Jitsu long his his, way certainly help because he strongest.
Speaker 4: Ship but you did he.
Speaker 2: Use it well like he used it well from the, top.
Speaker 1: Like he's good, passing crushing the keeping weight on. People, yeah,
Speaker 1: dude if he's in the fox and people, up you,
Speaker 1: know like him go Do Master.
Speaker 4: Masters, YEAH i think he's forty six. TOO i would
Speaker 4: love to see him.
Speaker 3: Go To Master's World he, dude that would ever if
Speaker 3: he won, masters if he won Fucking World, masters everyone
Speaker 3: would be, like, like.
Speaker 1: THEN i think he's a good. Chot he would win.
Speaker 1: It he, would just he would need to bring up
Speaker 1: the intensity of his cardio. Training that's one of the
Speaker 1: thing he doesn't do a ton of cardio but he's
Speaker 1: like a, businessman so we, do you, know a few.
Speaker 1: Rounds but if we put him like On Arrow diimes
Speaker 1: did longer intense. ROUNDS i literally said he was surprised
Speaker 1: if he didn't.
Speaker 4: Win it would be my opinion.
Speaker 3: Before before we came out here AND i was, Like
Speaker 3: i'm Gonna i'm gonna Tell, Jake i'll do a round
Speaker 3: like AND i was, LIKE i, said YE i.
Speaker 4: Would Maybe i'll see if next year he could do.
Speaker 4: It you.
Speaker 1: Know there there's the rare phenom that drops Him Masters
Speaker 1: World i'm, saying, like for the most, part he's gonna
Speaker 1: run through, dude.
Speaker 3: If he was like he, should if he Won World,
Speaker 3: masters that would be so because that everybody would have
Speaker 3: to Eat, ship everybody in the entire Jiu jitsu, commune,
Speaker 3: honestly if he went To World, masters because a lot a.
Speaker 4: Lot of people the, train everyone in the trains with
Speaker 4: him has said, yeah he's.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 3: Yeah but if he Won World, masters, though, like that
Speaker 3: would be the biggest flex fucking ever after everybody Talks,
Speaker 3: ship if he ran through, everybody that would be THAT
Speaker 3: i would be, like, okay, fuck that's.
Speaker 4: Gangster, no that would be Pretty.
Speaker 1: Yeah the only shitty part is he's never, competed so
Speaker 1: now you have to worry about like all this pressure
Speaker 1: in your very first. Competition BUT i think he.
Speaker 3: Could especially if he's like if he's if cardio is an,
Speaker 3: issue then he'll probably gas out real.
Speaker 4: Fast he. Could just he's.
Speaker 1: Dubborn he would would give him training hard for. It
Speaker 1: but he has lots of explosive. Muscles, yeah you, know
Speaker 1: those people fatigue faster THAT i. Have because there's the
Speaker 1: two there's the fast twitch versus slow. Twitch people with
Speaker 1: the more slow twitch have better. Cardios, YES i have the.
Speaker 1: PROBLEM i have the fast twitch. Cardio so you have
Speaker 1: to work with cardio. Harder. Yeah, yeah but you have
Speaker 1: the advantage you can people and dip him real quick
Speaker 1: and explode into things. EXACTLY i can just learn to
Speaker 1: like pace yourself.
Speaker 2: DIFFERENTLY i, TRAIN i train.
Speaker 3: GOING i try to use literally zero speed or strength
Speaker 3: ever When i'm, training and THEN i only use it
Speaker 3: If i'm like in trouble AND i immediately moves to.
Speaker 1: Relax and wind to burst. Exactly and that's What i've
Speaker 1: been Teaching. Derek when to, relax whin to. Burst, yeah
Speaker 1: and he's big enough w feaking relax and, LIKE i
Speaker 1: think one great way for is aerodne, bike especially for bigger,
Speaker 1: guys like fifteen seconds, sprints fifteen seconds, stop fifteen seconds,
Speaker 1: sprints or you do like thirty stuff like that just
Speaker 1: to get those go, stop go stop that like type of.
Speaker 4: Conditioning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah and like especially Like hunji And, victor they
Speaker 3: look like they are operating at fifteen percent all the,
Speaker 3: Time like it's so so fucking good It shunjy feels
Speaker 3: like he weighs seven thousand pounds on. TOP i don't
Speaker 3: EVEN i don't understand how he is able to distribute
Speaker 3: his weight so, Effectively LIKE i, watch you, know LIKE
Speaker 3: i know he's like top ten ever you, know.
Speaker 4: No he like he's. Phenomenal i've trained both of. Them they're.
Speaker 4: Phenomenal it was.
Speaker 1: The same mean they're, like, wait what do you? Weigh
Speaker 1: you feel like you're like three hundred?
Speaker 3: Pounds he really, does you, Know and he feels so
Speaker 3: he feels completely. IMMOVABLE i, mean, dude no one is
Speaker 3: more immovable than you, know because you get into a
Speaker 3: position that it's like, Okay I'm i'm my defensive jiu
Speaker 3: jitsu is much better than my offensive and so Like
Speaker 3: i'm really good at like okay on trouble and then
Speaker 3: like being able to like frame you, know he'll.
Speaker 1: Find how to get your elbow still.
Speaker 4: Right that's the league.
Speaker 1: Guys they find. Those they force it when you're, like,
Speaker 1: Oh i'm giving, it like that's.
Speaker 3: Explosive out of it Is i'll feel when they're working
Speaker 3: that And i'll lull them to sleep and then you get.
Speaker 1: Out. Yeah part of jitu is learning what your attributes.
Speaker 1: Are and like, everyone being a, coach you have to
Speaker 1: learn you can't coach everyone the same. Either you got
Speaker 1: to like look at everyone's. Attributes they're, tall their leg
Speaker 1: lengths or leg, strength their. Explosiveness so you look at someone's,
Speaker 1: ability and some people are better athletes. Period that's just
Speaker 1: the truth of the. Matter but there's advantages to different things.
Speaker 1: Too there's an advantage to fast titch, muscle there's an
Speaker 1: advantage to slow stitch.
Speaker 4: Muscles.
Speaker 1: Huge they just come in your face and they don't
Speaker 1: fatigue and keep that same. Pace that's why they'll give
Speaker 1: you the flocks doctors slapped he pissed to go trade
Speaker 1: because they know you're gonna fucking. Gas they'll pretend they're
Speaker 1: gonna you, know they're gonna call her tell, you but
Speaker 1: they'll Just, yeah that's why they're talking ship and, stuff
Speaker 1: trying to get people to engage because guys need to
Speaker 1: like rest with, them rest. Rest they're trying to force
Speaker 1: it into a no rest.
Speaker 4: Situation yeah for, sure.
Speaker 3: Dude so, actually the REASON i was bringing Up shanji
Speaker 3: earlier was it was about what you said About, nate
Speaker 3: how you guys put him through so much and you
Speaker 3: created you, know you created a. Diamond SO i had
Speaker 3: never met everybody Like solo obviously is like a like
Speaker 3: he's a.
Speaker 1: Big very, harsh harsh coach in a good. Way.
Speaker 2: Yeah SO i just met him for the first.
Speaker 3: Time he came out on the last week Of november
Speaker 3: and we did a seminar and he was there With.
Speaker 2: Sun and, everybody and, like, like in my, World shunji
Speaker 2: is the fucking, man, Dude.
Speaker 4: And it was a sallow When solo came.
Speaker 2: In it was. CRAZY i was, like, oh we're seeing
Speaker 2: a change up like. That, yeah just, instantly like the whole.
Speaker 2: DYNAMIC i was, like oh, Wow like because.
Speaker 1: You only see him as the leader blah, blah but
Speaker 1: but he has ten years, younger, Yes so to him
Speaker 1: that's like would never disrespect his brother in every.
Speaker 4: Way so it's the.
Speaker 1: Orders and that's how it came up through the, gyms
Speaker 1: and that's how it should. Be and unless someone unless
Speaker 1: the guy abused or disrespects it, totally there's an order. System,
Speaker 1: yeah he's, there he's running the. Show. YEAH i went
Speaker 1: trained a week with him and Diegos. Andes he worked
Speaker 1: the fun out of. Him. Solow, yeah but it's, like
Speaker 1: you're not gonna say. No and he's, like you, know
Speaker 1: he's an a, great, great great.
Speaker 3: Instructor he's, incredible and he, said but like there was
Speaker 3: a moment where he said he looked at the school
Speaker 3: because our academy is doing very, well Like steve And
Speaker 3: victor And chunji anyway, whatever but like and he was
Speaker 3: like he looked At chundy and he's like he's like,
Speaker 3: You he's, like you fucking did. It and it just, like,
Speaker 3: man like you can just, see like that was a
Speaker 3: really big.
Speaker 2: DEAL i was so. HAPPY i.
Speaker 3: WENT i was SO i was, like, Fuck i'm so
Speaker 3: glad THAT i saw. That But, salo LIKE i TOLD
Speaker 3: i Told steve, Afterwards i'm, like that is the first
Speaker 3: Time i've ever been in the room with someone THAT
Speaker 3: i am certain was born to lead hundreds of thousands
Speaker 3: of men into battle.
Speaker 1: In generation, right she's been like leading an army to fucking.
Speaker 3: War, honestly, dude like like, that like you see those
Speaker 3: like you, know you See maximus in a, Movie But
Speaker 3: i've never been in a room Where i'm, like that's
Speaker 3: what this dude is born.
Speaker 2: For For, no he's a sad he's born for.
Speaker 4: That LIKE i remember training that week and he worked
Speaker 4: the funk.
Speaker 1: Out of me And.
Speaker 2: Diego he's.
Speaker 1: AMAZING i liked, it you, KNOW i liked him being, like,
Speaker 1: oh he's taking the coaching role Because I'M i was
Speaker 1: usually stuck coaching, leading stuck being like you, know like you,
Speaker 1: said you're used to only Seeing sanji and leading. Role
Speaker 1: that's So i'm used to only BEING i should show
Speaker 1: up to his gym and he's taking over telling me
Speaker 1: what to.
Speaker 4: DO i liked. It you, know some guys, like, Oh
Speaker 4: i'm used.
Speaker 1: To only, leading but yeah's, like, Okay i'll sit back
Speaker 1: and take the take the rule in his. Gym let
Speaker 1: him tell me what to. Do, Yeah and he fucking
Speaker 1: showed his great ship and works the.
Speaker 4: Hell out of.
Speaker 1: Us that's, awesome.
Speaker 3: Dude, Yeah shanji talks about that sometimes with, me like
Speaker 3: just in that that, like and he's, like if he's
Speaker 3: trying to like train for like an, event he he
Speaker 3: don't like he wants to be able to be in
Speaker 3: class and people not treat him, like you, know like
Speaker 3: he just wants to take. Class, Yeah AND i just
Speaker 3: make SURE i never asked him ship when he's doing,
Speaker 3: that like ever.
Speaker 4: That makes sense BECAUSE i.
Speaker 1: Try he's like when you're like he want sometimes like
Speaker 1: after class is the best, time you, know guys like you,
Speaker 1: KNOW i was Training New york With Gordon Ryan john
Speaker 1: don here a couple of, years and everyone always talks,
Speaker 1: about Oh Gordon, ryan But i've seen him spend so
Speaker 1: much time with people after class for.
Speaker 2: Free he seems.
Speaker 1: He's gone out of his way to be a good
Speaker 1: friend every way, possible like way above and beyond the
Speaker 1: things that are. Needed you, know when people talk About,
Speaker 1: gordons he plays.
Speaker 2: That he plays the fight.
Speaker 1: Game he likes playing the. Villain he's likes being the.
Speaker 1: Villain but he's he's, like.
Speaker 3: If you have no if you have no brand in
Speaker 3: the in the in the just and not just jiu,
Speaker 3: jitsu ar but you have seen anything it's like you
Speaker 3: got to have something where people remember.
Speaker 2: You that's all it.
Speaker 3: Is, yeah and if you if they can bring up
Speaker 3: an emotion you know from, people and like With, gordon
Speaker 3: they're either going to hate him or they're going to love,
Speaker 3: exactly but it's an emotion by the.
Speaker 1: Way, yea, yeah his, uh his.
Speaker 2: Account of hate is not.
Speaker 1: Bad if you're in combat, sports hate is. Great gordon
Speaker 1: likes playing the villain, role which's. Funny As Blackie Lucy matchi,
Speaker 1: GOES i don't get, it you. KNOW i try to
Speaker 1: be liked AND i get the same amount of haters As.
Speaker 1: Gordon he tries to be unliked. Him like maybe that's
Speaker 1: the kind of the.
Speaker 4: Point just be.
Speaker 1: Yourself you don't need to worry about or tries to
Speaker 1: play the. Villain you try to play the hero.
Speaker 2: Who doesn't Like mikey, LIKE i, mean like, weird, weird,
Speaker 2: Right that's WHERE i.
Speaker 1: Go, REALLY i didn't Know kelly's, haters but as you're telling,
Speaker 1: me and it's like you tell it actually bothers, him
Speaker 1: THOUGH i think he's getting a little better at.
Speaker 3: It, dude you got like if you don't have haters
Speaker 3: in because if you do what we, do and you
Speaker 3: don't have, haters you don't.
Speaker 1: Matter, yeah, no it so like me And gordon doesn't
Speaker 1: bother at, all but like Bothers mikey a. Lot, YEAH
Speaker 1: i try to have like felt bad, though talk to him,
Speaker 1: like well maybe he used to stop going to looking
Speaker 1: online in the.
Speaker 4: Forums of it like bothers. You, yeah he is so,
Speaker 4: Talented like how does he have?
Speaker 1: Haters like you, said he's the nicest, guy you, know
Speaker 1: maybe a little just SAY i think it's kind of.
Speaker 2: No he said it after there's last.
Speaker 3: One he's, LIKE i want to, saylan he's like the
Speaker 3: kind of.
Speaker 1: At, autistic BUT i like the. Guy he's so, likable you.
Speaker 1: Know it's like it's just something we've got in a
Speaker 1: little argument for a second with. Him were we thankfully
Speaker 1: he called and we worked it out having my, Podcast
Speaker 1: and he's just, dude he is. Talented, yeah you'll never
Speaker 1: hear anyone to train With mikey say he's not, talented
Speaker 1: like that guy is fucking.
Speaker 2: Good it's, crazy how, Like and that's the other.
Speaker 1: Thing i'm way bigger than him in a train with
Speaker 1: him thinking that when he was still mostly, Gee i'm, like,
Speaker 1: Oh i'm gona wrecked this little fuck AND i couldn't
Speaker 1: fucking pass his. Guard, really, Dude it's like his guard
Speaker 1: is like unfucking, passable, dude AND i passed everyone's fucking.
Speaker 1: Guard i'm, like how is this little fucker not let
Speaker 1: me pass his?
Speaker 4: GUARD i was so? Mad does he?
Speaker 2: Like does?
Speaker 1: He he's throwing submissions at me And i'm having to
Speaker 1: respect him and he's.
Speaker 3: So that's what he's doing is he's, like like you
Speaker 3: you move here and he attacks, something so you have
Speaker 3: to back off or like because he doesn't look.
Speaker 1: Like get a hard framed, GUY i can always step
Speaker 1: past the. LEG i could not step past his first.
Speaker 1: Leg and THEN i forced the half half. GUARD i
Speaker 1: just could not force the half guard Of. Mikey it
Speaker 1: was just like his feet are like he's, supermuch he's
Speaker 1: four hands and in the small legs and the dexterity
Speaker 1: of the, like, yeah if you had elbow is a
Speaker 1: different story, obviously but like the fact they could have
Speaker 1: do anything to him was just, like And i'm way,
Speaker 1: bigger holy, fuck you.
Speaker 4: Know, yeah he was known as the gigay at the,
Speaker 4: time but he was.
Speaker 1: Phenomenal, no he Already, YEAH i wish you had gone
Speaker 1: to AD. CC i know they didn't have his weight
Speaker 1: class with his, argument BUT i think he would have
Speaker 1: won it the weight. Above he's that.
Speaker 3: Talented, yeah, yeah especially because, yeah you can if he can,
Speaker 3: attack like do any of the leg.
Speaker 2: Attacks it's like.
Speaker 1: His leg locks are.
Speaker 4: Phenomenal. YEAH i went back to leg lock him Because i'm,
Speaker 4: like all.
Speaker 1: Right at, FIRST i wasn't like because he's because he's
Speaker 1: a gee, guy but then he started countering leg locks
Speaker 1: back at.
Speaker 4: Yeah and that just really surprised. Me i'm, like all,
Speaker 4: right well come.
Speaker 1: Back AND i didn't Expect mikey to throw a count
Speaker 1: start counter leg locking with.
Speaker 4: Me were leglock.
Speaker 1: BATTLING i thought it WAS k and tap release the leg.
Speaker 2: Lock, yeah, yeah showed.
Speaker 3: You and IF i, like IF i ever dropped like
Speaker 3: attack like a leg against someone who's like a lower
Speaker 3: ran to, me he's, like, what you couldn't pass their?
Speaker 2: Guard he's like you know, What he's, like he's fucking right.
Speaker 2: THERE i just grabbed.
Speaker 1: Guard passing so underrated though generations pulled away from guard
Speaker 1: passing and that's thing at jiu, jitsu and now they
Speaker 1: just want to sit back on their ass for. Leglocks
Speaker 1: i'm not anti leglock don't get me, wrong BUT i
Speaker 1: think they've been like over, pushed.
Speaker 3: Overutilized the thing THAT i THAT i really like leglocks
Speaker 3: four those is.
Speaker 2: If someone.
Speaker 3: Sweeps there's a bunch of times WHERE i get swept
Speaker 3: AND i immediately attack their leg and Then i'll either
Speaker 3: muscle sweep them back or that's.
Speaker 1: GREAT i use bottles, more But i'll sit back from
Speaker 1: the top, occasionally but it's just NOT i prefer to. Pass, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah there's especially now people have got a lot better defending.
Speaker 4: Them there was a while what.
Speaker 2: Are your what are you like like?
Speaker 4: Most?
Speaker 2: Like what's your favorite way to? Pass? Card or?
Speaker 4: Favorite?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Two?
Speaker 1: THREE i forced the half guard and THEN i have
Speaker 1: an just crush either crush the face or head. OUTSIDE
Speaker 1: i do both, ways you, know between the. Two But
Speaker 1: i'm always trying to force the half. GUARD i have
Speaker 1: a ton of ways of doing.
Speaker 4: That, yeah if you, could if.
Speaker 1: They, have if they won't open clothes, Guard i'll stand.
Speaker 4: Up and break.
Speaker 1: It but usually people open and when they, OPEN i
Speaker 1: find that moment and right away catch the. Foot say
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to reach catch the foot Because i'm
Speaker 1: aware of What i'm. Doing you can break the rules
Speaker 1: when you're aware of what you're.
Speaker 3: DOING i reached back to grab the, foot and then
Speaker 3: if they if they go for, It i'll stack past.
Speaker 1: Them exactly because reaching back to past the, foot as
Speaker 1: long as you know what you're, doing is not wrong at.
Speaker 3: All, yeah if they throw up a, triangle that's, Fine
Speaker 3: i'll stack past.
Speaker 1: You are you did you go to the world where
Speaker 1: you're right? HERE i Think i'm in the head after this.
Speaker 1: INTERVIEW i Think i'm a head over. There what TIMES
Speaker 1: i go TO.
Speaker 2: I have no.
Speaker 3: IDEA i Don't, Honestly we've got guys from my gym
Speaker 3: that are.
Speaker 1: AND i was playing heading right. Now we'll wrap this
Speaker 1: up next. TIME i think we're gone like for kind
Speaker 1: of a, while like over, time it was just. Flowing
Speaker 1: you think anything? Else tip for your?
Speaker 4: Wrap, no, Man Early. Kirk, yeah we'll do it.
Speaker 1: Again, yeah do it anytime you want Perfect where you're
Speaker 1: living at Your california As.
Speaker 4: Austin oh you're In.
Speaker 1: Austin, Yeah i'm out there. Sometimes.
Speaker 3: YEAH i know we told BECAUSE i was like the
Speaker 3: city trained With.
Speaker 4: Gordon then when you're out the, right, YEAH i think
Speaker 4: it might.
Speaker 1: Go that's right Because austin's the just capital of the world,
Speaker 1: now like hands down even, Close like he's Picked Rio
Speaker 1: San diego is really good, too BUT i Think austin
Speaker 1: is the capital.
Speaker 3: Dude then the best thing is like when they Have
Speaker 3: who's Number one's out, there like they just we just
Speaker 3: did one and so it's like The who's number one
Speaker 3: is like the best people in the world and.
Speaker 2: It's just, local you know WHAT i.
Speaker 4: Mean it's like it's.
Speaker 3: Crazy Dud dan hur has this new. Girl she is
Speaker 3: so fucking. Good and after she smashed the shit out
Speaker 3: of this girl that someone was like her her great
Speaker 3: grandma was sitting in front of like a great.
Speaker 2: Grandma i'm, like how old is she? Still? Thirteen oh my?
Speaker 4: God and she's. TALKING i thought you're talking about great, Girl,
Speaker 4: like so a new.
Speaker 2: One she's thirteen years.
Speaker 3: Old it's like AND i mean she she's not just
Speaker 3: like big as she destroyed this girl with like smashing
Speaker 3: technical top. PRESSURE i was, like what she's, like think
Speaker 3: about in ten years she's gonna be twenty.
Speaker 1: Three, well Like john is such a great trainer that
Speaker 1: his team fell apart and look how fast he rebuilt. It,
Speaker 1: yeah because THE b teams play with the majority of
Speaker 1: guys went WITH b. Team, yeah and then he's rebuilt
Speaker 1: an amazing team.
Speaker 4: Just like that, there that was. Insane.
Speaker 1: YEAH i knew he rebuilt a, team but the speed
Speaker 1: he rebuilt built it with Like John CARLO, adcc Like Mara,
Speaker 1: golly you, know.
Speaker 2: Like, Yeah Lucas.
Speaker 1: GRIFFITH i mean obviously people would move there that were already,
Speaker 1: good but then he'd make him. Great oh, yeah like
Speaker 1: The John carlow was, good but then he started then
Speaker 1: he got.
Speaker 4: Great.
Speaker 1: Maragalli first TIME i trained to Them No, gi he
Speaker 1: wasn't fucking. GOOD i trained with, Him like the difference
Speaker 1: was SO i think he was so gey reliant on
Speaker 1: one of those, guys And i'm, like, oh ask, guys all,
Speaker 1: Right but then he Goes wednesday C c and THEN
Speaker 1: i went trained with him. Again oh this is is
Speaker 1: his speed of how good he got great with The NO.
Speaker 1: GI i guess it kind of makes sense because he
Speaker 1: was amazing At, gee so it kind of makes, Sense
Speaker 1: but it kind of doesn't, too because like this is
Speaker 1: the first time training with, him he was like a little.
Speaker 1: Lost k he list like, yeah you could just, tell
Speaker 1: but he's got hooped so.
Speaker 3: Fast, yeah he's got that same thing As gordon where
Speaker 3: people love to hate, him and like like when he you,
Speaker 3: know he got injured AT adcc and.
Speaker 2: Everybody was like.
Speaker 3: YEAH i was, LIKE i, mean fucked. Up it's super
Speaker 3: fucked up cheering for people's. Injuries but HE'S i.
Speaker 2: Haven't seen him fight since. Then actually has he has
Speaker 2: he had that, YET i don't.
Speaker 4: Know but he's extremely.
Speaker 1: Talented Lucas griffin, too that guy is.
Speaker 3: Good so when he was gonna Fight, victor so he
Speaker 3: just had a huge wind and he just he'd Beat
Speaker 3: victor at who's number. One but it was like that
Speaker 3: fight was bananas because LIKE i heard beforehand That lucas
Speaker 3: had dropped from two sixty down to like two thirty
Speaker 3: or two twenty, five AND i.
Speaker 2: Was like Against, victor AND i thought that was.
Speaker 3: Insane and then it's, like AND i saw dannaher say
Speaker 3: something about, it that he was gonna Make cardio into a.
Speaker 3: Weapon victor had him mounted for the entire like first
Speaker 3: like forever of the fight and then but then eventually
Speaker 3: and it was so crazy because Like, gordon it was so,
Speaker 3: quiet and So gordon was able to kind of coach
Speaker 3: him through exactly how to escape after you, Know victor
Speaker 3: had trapped him. Forever but then once they escaped and
Speaker 3: they stood back, UP i looked him, like oh, Fuck victor's. Tired,
Speaker 3: yeah and then so Then lucas ended up Mounting.
Speaker 4: Victor on that great.
Speaker 1: Cardio that's tough with a cargo train or right, Now
Speaker 1: i'm in terrible, shape but you know you're not in
Speaker 1: great shaping and train with those.
Speaker 4: Guys it. Sucks Like.
Speaker 1: Gordon he never gets, TIRED i. Know And gordon's on
Speaker 1: a different level, now but there was one, point you,
Speaker 1: know and we were competitive when he is getting better
Speaker 1: and then but he was just Fucking john doesn't set
Speaker 1: around around time or so sometimes they just keeps going
Speaker 1: order to be, Day i'll do good to The gordon,
Speaker 1: like oh do. Good then he started getting. Fatigued he
Speaker 1: knows how to use his energy so efficiently that people
Speaker 1: just wear. Down he's just on another. Level it was
Speaker 1: like when we were training At john here all the
Speaker 1: best people in the, world with The Craig, jones, me
Speaker 1: what's the other, one the rather really big, guy the.
Speaker 1: Heavyweight they had some matches With Gordon, nikki like all
Speaker 1: the greats in, there and Then gordon's like a level above.
Speaker 1: Everyone it's like A Michael, jordan like, truly he's like
Speaker 1: an inspirational just see and just just seeing true greatness
Speaker 1: every day at the, gym just Seeing gordon consistently better
Speaker 1: than everyone that are the.
Speaker 2: Best, yeah and that LIKE i HEARD i Heard Dana
Speaker 2: hersey he.
Speaker 1: Doesn't hurt people and stuff.
Speaker 4: Either sorry to cut you.
Speaker 3: Off of, no, no, yeah, NO i was just SAYING
Speaker 3: i Heard dana hersay that That gordon has the best
Speaker 3: memory of anyone he's ever and so like if you
Speaker 3: take this like weird mix of good, will, hunting, memory,
Speaker 3: athleticism and competitive spirit and he loves jiu, jitsu it's
Speaker 3: like if you, know then you, Understand.
Speaker 2: You're, like that's why he's.
Speaker 1: Like, oh he's just he just doesn't make any. Mistakes
Speaker 1: it's almost. Impossible and he could download stuff so, quick
Speaker 1: like there's early. ON i, mean he told the, story
Speaker 1: so it's. Fine it's trying to say. It he trained with.
Speaker 1: ME i passed the guard like thirty, times and he
Speaker 1: said he was just utterly. Humiliated so you, know he
Speaker 1: talked To john or a dousand. THINGS i trained the coupleies.
Speaker 1: Water he passed my, guard but my own fucking.
Speaker 4: PASS i was so.
Speaker 2: Pissed that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Though it was.
Speaker 4: Awesome.
Speaker 1: Though it's awesome though how quickly he downloaded exactly WHAT
Speaker 1: i was. Doing And gordon has been in his own passing,
Speaker 1: system but he keeps that pass is he drops the
Speaker 1: exact pass. Sometimes, still that is. Big that is one
Speaker 1: of the main elements that he has in his passing. Game, still,
Speaker 1: DUDE i bet.
Speaker 3: You also some of it is just like trusting the
Speaker 3: technique where if someone's, like, okay once you get to
Speaker 3: hear you drop to your left hip and then sliding.
Speaker 3: Over it's like sometimes if, you like for, me IF
Speaker 3: i haven't done it a, bunch Then i'm, like, okay
Speaker 3: sit to my And i'm kind of, like is this gonna?
Speaker 3: Work but if you actually commit to, it it's like
Speaker 3: the technique is the technique for a.
Speaker 4: Reason, yeah you have to believe in.
Speaker 2: Him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah and so just sometimes there are different body
Speaker 1: type but, No gordon felt its million Like i'm gonna
Speaker 1: master the.
Speaker 4: PAST a couple weaks, later he just passed my garden
Speaker 4: my own. Pass that's.
Speaker 1: Awesome fuck, You.
Speaker 4: Gordon BUT i Love.
Speaker 1: Gordon he's been nothing but LIKE i, said just such
Speaker 1: a great.
Speaker 3: Person he seems so like his instructions where he's interacting with,
Speaker 3: everybody he's just like seems super fucking nice and just, like, yeah.
Speaker 1: That's why he's weird that he gets so much. Hate,
Speaker 1: WELL i guess he doesn't heat. Purposely, yeah you're. Right, well,
Speaker 1: anyway let's go.
Speaker 4: On yeh hit that