WEBVTT 1 00:00:16.320 --> 00:00:21.879 Voices drift on winds untane, where it's like spells that 2 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:27.600 can't be made. Close your eyes and feel the sound 3 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:32.600 journey where no bounds are found. 4 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:41.640 Open doors inside your mind, the ordinary farm behind color 5 00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:46.640 swirl the stars line. 6 00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:51.759 In the Mental Mysteries, you'll find Welcome to Mada Mysteries, 7 00:00:52.039 --> 00:00:54.079 where you don't know what you don't know. 8 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:58.520 My name's Jonathan, I'm Sean, and tonight is Wonder Wizday 9 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:02.560 Baby for the live show. If this is your first 10 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:05.760 time ever tuning into a Meta Mysteries episode, you tuned 11 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:08.159 in at the right time, because tonight we got Lord 12 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:10.799 Byron Jester. What to do, sir? 13 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:15.120 That's going good man? How you guys doing solid. 14 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:17.120 Doing good man? You're one of our favorite guests, man, 15 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:18.719 So it's always it's always a good time. 16 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:22.480 Yeah, I c't I caught the last Wonder Wednesday do. 17 00:01:22.519 --> 00:01:23.920 I thought all you guys crushed it? 18 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:24.200 Man? 19 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:26.920 Oh awesome, Man. That means a lot coming from you, dude. 20 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:28.920 Yeah, you guys are crushing that. 21 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:32.239 Yeah, dude. You know, we're just diving into a bunch 22 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:37.439 of different things and really looking into the the deeper, 23 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:43.239 more esoteric level of understanding and gotta be honest, like 24 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:46.920 just uh, with having you on and a couple of 25 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:49.680 a couple other of our guests that we've had on, 26 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:53.640 it's just been like it's like the praying Mantis going 27 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:56.680 in there with astral surgery, just tweaking shit within our 28 00:01:56.719 --> 00:02:00.840 mind and everything, because I swear the influence is crazy. 29 00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:04.359 Like I'm just like, I feel like, you know, this 30 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:07.120 is this all was meant to happen. You ever feel 31 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:10.199 like that, Like it's all just it was made to happen. 32 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:13.199 And you know, I'm just super stoked that we were 33 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:16.120 able to you know, kind of be friends with you 34 00:02:16.199 --> 00:02:17.879 and have you on the show all the times and 35 00:02:18.199 --> 00:02:20.319 learn from you. And as a matter of fact, I 36 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:24.159 just bought some oregano oil too, so nice. I remember 37 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:24.520 that time. 38 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:27.400 Yeah, that's the best medicine you could ever have, reganal 39 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:29.560 oil or n em oil. We're both. 40 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:34.319 Yeah yeah, So yeah, dude, we're really excited about this. 41 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:37.560 We uh, we have been covering really quite a bit lately, 42 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:40.599 and so I reached out to you and I was like, hey, 43 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:42.719 it's been a little while, why don't you come back 44 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:45.400 on to Meta Mysteries, especially for the live show, because 45 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:48.280 we know that a lot of the one love hearing 46 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:51.639 you talk and because you're a pretty eccentric kind of guy, 47 00:02:52.199 --> 00:02:54.919 and uh love that energy and all of the wild 48 00:02:54.919 --> 00:02:57.000 shit that you get into and the guests that you 49 00:02:57.159 --> 00:03:00.879 provided over here with JS, Garrett and l the outcome 50 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:02.039 is fucking studs. 51 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:04.400 You know people. Bet we probably wouldn't have had the 52 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:06.879 opportunity to speak with otherwise, you know. And so you 53 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:10.439 speak on you know, uh, you know, getting with Buyer 54 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:14.000 and it's like those little steps and you get different levels, 55 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:16.439 you know, and then the teacher, you know, arrives and 56 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:18.319 so man, it's just been a hell of a journey. 57 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:18.479 Man. 58 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:19.759 You've definitely been a part of that. 59 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:22.120 Well thanks man, you guys have been a part of 60 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:24.039 my journey too. Man, you got you guys kind of 61 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:26.919 got the whole ball going with doing interviews and. 62 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:30.560 You know, so yeah, well, hey, whatever we can do 63 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:32.520 to provide the outlet to be able to have these 64 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:35.280 conversations and to be able to let a lot of 65 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:38.400 this stuff, you know, out into the world, because if 66 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:40.479 you really think about it, a lot of this stuff 67 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:43.120 was you know, this was mystery school shit and you 68 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:45.759 had to be initiated and then you know, maybe you 69 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:47.560 had to cut off the tip of your dick in 70 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:50.080 order to get into it. They got weird with initiation 71 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:53.439 back in the day. And quickly, Yeah, we're not asking 72 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:55.680 for anybody's blood, you know, unless you want to, you know, 73 00:03:55.759 --> 00:03:57.599 do some kind of spell with your own blood, then 74 00:03:57.680 --> 00:03:58.280 that's up to you. 75 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:02.280 We're not telling nobody what to do, you know. 76 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:03.879 I mean, you don't have to, you know, I'm not 77 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:07.919 but uh but yeah, you were. You were messaging me 78 00:04:08.599 --> 00:04:11.800 or we were texting the other day and you said 79 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:13.879 that you set up your own church. 80 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:21.120 Yeah. May Apotheosis is officially a tax exempt religious nonprofits. 81 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:22.839 That's a gangster move, dude. 82 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:26.800 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It took a little trial 83 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:32.600 and error because uh, you know, uh so so at 84 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:34.199 first I was just going to do it for here 85 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:37.240 in Utah. But we're not even sure if we're gonna 86 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:41.879 stay here. We're thinking about uh moving, and and we're 87 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:45.639 kind of thinking like Kentucky area, but we're not exactly 88 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:48.399 sure where we want to go. Maybe maybe Idaho, maybe 89 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:49.800 why I don't know, uh. 90 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:52.199 Go to Louisiana. 91 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:57.720 But someone was trying to tell me to go to Missouri. 92 00:04:58.040 --> 00:04:58.279 You know. 93 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:01.360 Apparently all the cool kids are in Missouri right now, 94 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:05.000 I don't know. But anyway, uh So I started thinking, 95 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:06.279 I was like, you know, like I probably don't even 96 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:08.480 need like an actual physical address. I can probably use 97 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:10.759 like a digital address. So then I started looking at 98 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:16.319 like which states are the best to file in? And uh, 99 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:19.079 number one, of course is Delaware. Everyone knows, you know, 100 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:21.639 you want to file your articles of incorporation in Delaware. 101 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:24.920 Number two was Virginia. And that's where I'm from and 102 00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:28.040 that's where all my family is. So I was able 103 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:33.560 to set up a registered agent for Virginia pretty easily. 104 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:38.000 Uh and uh so yeah, so I'm basically an online 105 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:39.120 church right now at the moment. 106 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:45.160 So that's awesome, dude. So I mean, what is what 107 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:46.560 does that actually mean? 108 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:46.879 Though? 109 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:48.800 I mean I know that you know you. Is it 110 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:51.199 basically like a five O one C three kind of thing? 111 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:55.279 No? Not a five oh one C three. That's what 112 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:58.319 I think of the five O one C three. All right, No, 113 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:04.079 it's a it's a five oh eight C one A church, 114 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:06.240 you know. So you know, with the five oh one 115 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:10.319 C three you later on have to apply for and 116 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:13.759 go through all these steps for your tax exempt status. 117 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:16.639 But with the five O eight U C one A 118 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:18.759 and they do not make this easy to find out 119 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:22.519 or read about or anything. Uh, you're automatically tax exempt. 120 00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:28.759 But you know, so I was even on what is 121 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:35.120 it the state? Uh, basically the Treasury for Virginia, right, 122 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:38.439 and uh going on their website to file my articles 123 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:42.160 and uh yeah, yeah, they don't have anything about the 124 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:44.959 five O eight in there, and so I had so 125 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:48.560 I had to basically produce my own documents, which I 126 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:53.519 was expecting anyway. Uh, but but they want you to 127 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:58.000 at least use the first articles for their template and 128 00:06:58.079 --> 00:07:01.240 then add your articles after that. So I had so 129 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:05.639 I had to redo mine a couple of times, but 130 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:09.920 I got it. And now I'm yeah, now. 131 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:13.560 My church, are you like a pastor or a priest 132 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:14.519 or what is your title? 133 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:19.120 Okay? So, so so I have, uh, you know, the 134 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:23.079 articles filed, and then I have my bylaws and my 135 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:26.600 statement of faith and everything. I'm I'm still kind of 136 00:07:26.600 --> 00:07:32.319 debating on how what kind of terminology I'm gonna use, uh, 137 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:34.839 because you know a lot of people, like especially like 138 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:37.040 in the occult spare, we'll use like high priest for 139 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:39.600 the person who's in charge, and then priests for everyone 140 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:42.639 right under them. Uh, you know, and that's a pretty 141 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:45.720 easy system. But then you also have you know, like 142 00:07:45.839 --> 00:07:50.879 minister Pastor and all that stuff. Here in Utah, the 143 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:58.959 LDS have a profit and then twelve apostles. So so 144 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:00.600 I almost had that'd be kind of cool since I'm 145 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:03.639 here in Utah to do a profit and apostles. So 146 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:07.199 I don't know. I also thought about kind of using 147 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:10.839 the terroorts like magician or magus and heterofont and all that. 148 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:13.199 So I don't know, uh how I'm gonna how I'm 149 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:17.680 gonna structure the hierarchy yet, dude. So I'm gonna hash 150 00:08:17.720 --> 00:08:20.399 that out properly here pretty soon. I kind of like profit, 151 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:22.279 you know. You know. 152 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:25.399 No, that's so when you when you filed all this 153 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:27.360 stuff and you were trying to get it going, was 154 00:08:27.399 --> 00:08:30.439 there questions like, well, okay, well what is your primary 155 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:33.399 believe or did it go into any detail like that 156 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:34.679 or just kind of. 157 00:08:36.360 --> 00:08:39.000 And that was the problem the first time I tried 158 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:41.559 to file, was I was adding all this stuff in there, 159 00:08:42.039 --> 00:08:46.360 you know, and uh so so like like after the 160 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:50.759 second try, I I just went bare bones and just 161 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:53.919 did the basic for the articles, just what they need 162 00:08:53.919 --> 00:08:56.919 to know legally. And I and so I really had 163 00:08:56.960 --> 00:08:59.440 to specify it because they don't have like a tax 164 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:02.320 code on the template and they don't give you this option. 165 00:09:02.440 --> 00:09:06.279 So I had to write in an extra article uh 166 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:09.919 that was specifically like this is a five eight C 167 00:09:10.039 --> 00:09:12.919 one A and not a five oh one C three. 168 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:15.320 So but but it worked. 169 00:09:15.399 --> 00:09:17.600 I got it. 170 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:19.720 So so you know, there there's a there's a few 171 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:22.000 cool Well. Number one is that I have to do it, 172 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:25.200 you know, can good faith and actually start structuring it 173 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:30.080 as a church. And so, uh so i'll probably hear 174 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:33.879 pretty soon start doing some live streams as a congregation 175 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:37.639 at first, and maybe even like a Patreon kind of 176 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:41.240 like you guys are doing with this you know livestream 177 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:45.840 that we're doing right now something like that. But but 178 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:47.960 but but there's a few cool things like for one, 179 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:50.840 you know, since uh I'm going to be doing like 180 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:55.600 ritual for hire and stuff like that, I'm going to 181 00:09:55.919 --> 00:09:58.840 uh you know, that's one of those things that I 182 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:02.960 could like write a a deductible receipt for because all 183 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:05.960 I'm really doing is like praying for the person, just 184 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:09.159 giving them a church blessing. You know, I just have 185 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:10.919 a better way of doing that. 186 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:14.120 So yeah, Well and then there's you know, the tive 187 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:17.799 dollars and everything. That's I mean, you just called donations 188 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:20.200 and Patreon support time money at that time. 189 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:23.480 So you know. Another cool thing, it's like if someone 190 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:27.200 donates like a like a laptop to me or like 191 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:30.440 a microphone or something, I can give them a receipt 192 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:33.240 and when it when someone donates like an item to 193 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:37.559 a nonprofit, you you leave the value blank and they 194 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:40.639 can put in their own value for that item. So 195 00:10:40.679 --> 00:10:41.759 that's how that works. 196 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:44.080 So I got an extra mic dude, let me know. 197 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:47.240 Totally. 198 00:10:47.320 --> 00:10:49.759 So it's actually worth about three grand. 199 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:55.440 I'm just kidding at least put four you know whatnot. 200 00:10:55.240 --> 00:10:59.000 Yeah, you know, and same with like services and stuff 201 00:10:59.039 --> 00:11:02.240 like that. You know. Uh yeah, so you know it's 202 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:04.000 it's it's pretty cool. It's pretty rad. 203 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:08.080 Hell yeah, So is it have you thought about like 204 00:11:08.559 --> 00:11:11.120 maybe some of the terminology as far as like is 205 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:13.320 it going to be called a church or a temple 206 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:17.360 or a cave or whatever? You know, like, have you 207 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:20.039 thought about that even even if it is just online? 208 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:25.080 Yeah, I did put church in the name. I put 209 00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:29.080 it all in lowercase. It's just my apotheosis church. And 210 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:34.240 uh uh so when I'm when I'm talking online and stuff. 211 00:11:34.279 --> 00:11:35.879 I think I'm just gonna have it be just like 212 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:39.000 my apotheosis, and then you know, church will be for 213 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:41.559 like legal matters just at that Lectra bid in, but 214 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:46.799 for uh you know, because uh, but I put church 215 00:11:47.000 --> 00:11:50.279 in the name just to make it easier to go 216 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:53.759 through and to get less pushback and to not like 217 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:57.360 send off any red flags, you know, because you know 218 00:11:57.559 --> 00:11:59.159 with the five oh ay, there was a lot of 219 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:02.799 misinformation going around about five years ago, four years ago 220 00:12:02.919 --> 00:12:06.879 during the Rona and uh, you know, like people were 221 00:12:06.919 --> 00:12:10.960 basically trying to run like businesses as churches, you know, 222 00:12:12.120 --> 00:12:15.240 and so there was some misinformation going around back then 223 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:17.320 about that. So I'm trying to. 224 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:20.720 Avoid all that, right right, Yeah. 225 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:23.080 But it makes sense to me because you know, like 226 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:26.679 everything I talk about is spiritual in nature. One of 227 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:29.919 my core beliefs is like magic and astrology, proofs creation, 228 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:35.240 you know, so everything everything I talk about, everything I sell, 229 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:39.039 every service I offer, is all spiritual in nature. So 230 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:40.200 so so it makes sense to me. 231 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:44.159 Was what was your your statement, because you said that 232 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:46.120 there had to be some kind of statement whenever you 233 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:46.960 started this church. 234 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:49.320 Yeah, statement of fifth. I think I'm actually going to 235 00:12:49.399 --> 00:12:52.559 retype it actually retype it out. But yeah, it's just 236 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:55.919 some stuff I did. I made sure to include like 237 00:12:56.039 --> 00:13:00.799 talisman's magic and radionics as part of an astrology, practical 238 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:03.519 spiritual modalities and stuff like that. I may I made 239 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:04.440 sure to include all. 240 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:08.879 That dy times or at least one. 241 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:15.080 So I think it's called the ins in a CC church. 242 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:17.919 I think it's based out of South Dakota. It's a 243 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:22.600 Native American church, and they used to not allow outsiders 244 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:25.320 to be a member of it, but or people that 245 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:29.879 aren't Indian or Indigenous. But now you can pay money 246 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:32.600 and be a part of their church if you're like 247 00:13:32.679 --> 00:13:37.639 white or whatever, or black or whatever. But if you're 248 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:41.759 a member of this inn acc church, you can legally 249 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:45.919 carry psychedelics on you and cannabis. I think I think 250 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:50.320 it's up to two ounces of cannabis, like basically nationwide. 251 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:52.600 I know, I'm sure there's I wouldn't be surprised if 252 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:54.559 there's like one or two states or a couple of 253 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:56.399 states that are going to give you some pushback on it. 254 00:13:57.720 --> 00:14:01.639 But I definitely wouldn't mind figuring that out. 255 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:07.240 You know, have you thought about a maybe a hat 256 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:11.399 of sorts, maybe apotheosis Yamaka type thing. 257 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:20.240 Oh yeah, a Jester cap totally. Uh yeah, you know, 258 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:22.240 so a lot of that I'm going to work out. 259 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:25.720 But I'm also uh so this is just the beginning. 260 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:31.159 Later on, especially uh like when I have a forum 261 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:33.559 and all of that, I'm gonna set up a private 262 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:38.600 membership association too. And so my goal with a private 263 00:14:38.600 --> 00:14:42.080 membership association is, you know, people would be able to 264 00:14:42.120 --> 00:14:45.279 post like PDFs for books and videos and stuff and 265 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:49.679 avoid copyright restrictions because it's a private library. It's not 266 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:52.320 open to the public, you know, stuff. 267 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:54.480 Like that Nakashak record type deal over there, dude. 268 00:14:54.759 --> 00:14:58.200 Yeah. And then after that I'm one, I'm gonna start 269 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:04.120 hashing out uh, irrevocable trusts or an offshore trust, you know, 270 00:15:04.159 --> 00:15:08.720 stuff like that, irrevocable trusts. So so at some point I'm 271 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:11.399 probably going to put everything into a trust with the 272 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:14.720 Private Membership Association and the church, and I'll just be 273 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:21.120 the trustee of the trust. So but but trust they 274 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:23.440 require a lot more research. You got to do it right, 275 00:15:23.600 --> 00:15:26.519 you know, if you want. But once you put everything 276 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:30.639 into a trust with the church and the p and A, 277 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:33.600 you're going to be pretty as long as long as 278 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:36.440 you're acting in good faith, you're going to be pretty 279 00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:38.320 much untouchable legally. 280 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:39.200 Wow. 281 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:43.000 Yeah, you really did your research on this, then just 282 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:45.639 have curiosity if you don't mind me asking, You don't 283 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:48.080 have to answer it. But how much did it run 284 00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:49.440 you to start this whole thing? 285 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:54.240 Oh, the church? Yeah, it's like seventy five bucks to file. 286 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:55.039 That's it. 287 00:15:56.559 --> 00:16:00.399 Yeah, it depends, you know, it depends if you can 288 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:04.759 draft your documents yourself, or or if you trust yourself 289 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:07.399 enough to do it and not need a lawyer to 290 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:09.720 look at the documents. You know, Like I said, it 291 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:12.399 took me three tries because I got these little like 292 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:14.279 like one of the details I had to get right 293 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:18.200 was you have to have the spacing correct on the document. 294 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:21.200 You know. So so if you draft your own documents, 295 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:23.200 it has to be like one in the half inches 296 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:25.039 on the top, like one in a quarter inches on 297 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:26.919 the side, one the quarter inch on the bottom. Has 298 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:29.639 to everything has to be like spaced out a certain way, 299 00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:32.679 and like I said, all of the articles have to 300 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:34.720 be in the exact same order that they want them. 301 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:38.360 And you know, so that sounds about right. Yeah, government 302 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:40.360 is real particular about that kind of stuff. 303 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:42.919 Yeah, but when I got it. Man, I got it, 304 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:46.159 and I'm stoked. So and as soon as you get it, right, 305 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:48.919 you know, they send you a document that's like signed 306 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:52.799 by the treasurer or whatever or the commissioner and uh 307 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:56.679 and it says that, uh, like you know, like everything 308 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:59.320 that you sent them is within the confines of the law. 309 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:02.399 So you did get like validation and also got my 310 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:04.319 E I N number from the I R S. And 311 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:08.079 I'm gonna set up a bank and then yeah. 312 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:10.039 I am. I don't. 313 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:11.400 Yeah, that is legitis. 314 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:11.599 Fun. 315 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:13.599 I just want to know what do I gotta do, 316 00:17:13.759 --> 00:17:15.599 what if me and Sean got to do to become 317 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:21.640 your apostles? Sir, Yeah, you're not worthy. 318 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:24.359 First of all. Off, don't ever ask that again. 319 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:27.799 All right, that's gold too. I was just you know, 320 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:29.920 I felt like we were on that same level. 321 00:17:29.960 --> 00:17:32.880 But that's okay, we're not not even close. 322 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:35.359 Did you see the comment in the chat that just 323 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:38.759 bought up. It was like, well, ship, y'all, let's make 324 00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:41.759 meta mysteries a church and the cult a real cult. 325 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:46.640 Yeah shout out, no, no, no, no, that's a great idea. 326 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:48.680 Me and Jacob I've actually talked about that, like in 327 00:17:48.720 --> 00:17:53.839 the past, about forming like a cult of conspiracy type 328 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:57.319 church and it would basically just be like a m 329 00:17:57.480 --> 00:17:59.960 M a church of sorts where he would just like. 330 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:03.799 So you could you could legitimately do that because I 331 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:07.160 mean the term marshal and martial arts refers to the 332 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:09.880 planet Mars, the god of war, so you could do 333 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:12.440 it as like a like a Marsian veneration. 334 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:13.839 Wow. 335 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:18.079 Well, so you absolutely could do that, especially especially if 336 00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:21.039 you have like a shrine maybe with like aries got 337 00:18:21.039 --> 00:18:22.920 a war and you bow to them as you walk in, 338 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:25.400 you know, something simple like that. 339 00:18:25.400 --> 00:18:27.680 That would be sick. I'm more of a lover, so 340 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:33.000 maybe a little Venusian, you know, yeah, excited to go to. 341 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:35.240 So you know, like I said, there are a lot 342 00:18:35.279 --> 00:18:39.599 of people trying to run businesses as five O eights 343 00:18:39.680 --> 00:18:42.079 and they and they started getting in. At first they 344 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:44.599 were getting away with it, but then once a lot 345 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:47.440 of people started doing it, they started cracking down on it. 346 00:18:47.880 --> 00:18:52.400 But with like a bar, I think you could pull 347 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:55.599 it off just because uh, you know, you look at 348 00:18:55.680 --> 00:19:02.240 uh the planet the god of drinking, Dionysus, no Venus, Bacchus, Venus, 349 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:05.759 you know, Aphrodite Venus. You know you I think if 350 00:19:05.799 --> 00:19:07.839 you were sincere in it, you could pull it off, 351 00:19:08.680 --> 00:19:10.559 you know, but there were people that weren't being sincere 352 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:11.880 in it. They just thought they were just trying to 353 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:12.559 be above the law. 354 00:19:13.160 --> 00:19:14.240 Yeah, yeah, right, Yeah. 355 00:19:14.440 --> 00:19:16.279 I wonder how they go about that as far as, 356 00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:19.519 you know, like to get into like moral the moral 357 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:21.799 aspect of it. You know, there's colds all the time, 358 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:23.920 and and it didn't seem like they can really do 359 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:26.559 anything to stop them from you know, you hear all 360 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:28.839 those stories where you know, they go and they drink 361 00:19:28.880 --> 00:19:31.079 the kool aid and it was like was seemingly nothing 362 00:19:31.079 --> 00:19:31.599 they could. 363 00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:33.319 Really do about it, and everybody's having sex. 364 00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:36.279 Yeah, and how do they determine like the moral of 365 00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:39.079 that as far as what's good and what's not, you know, 366 00:19:39.160 --> 00:19:41.000 without getting kind of opinionated? 367 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:44.240 You know, I don't know, but you know, some of 368 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:47.640 those colds, like you know, the Jonestown that you mentioned, 369 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:51.559 were we're kind of like operations or like expansions of 370 00:19:51.599 --> 00:19:54.680 the MK ultra because like all of those mind control 371 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:59.559 experiments that the Naval Intelligence and CIA and stuff we're doing. Uh, 372 00:19:59.640 --> 00:20:02.720 they they left the big paper trail, you know, so 373 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:05.400 when they started putting him into like churches and colts 374 00:20:05.400 --> 00:20:07.200 and stuff. Then they're able to kind of have like 375 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:09.599 a tax exempt thing going, and then they were able 376 00:20:09.640 --> 00:20:12.640 to kind of create their own funding, uh for these 377 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:16.640 experiments without leaving that paper trail going straight back to 378 00:20:16.720 --> 00:20:19.400 Uncle Sam. So a lot of those cults were straight 379 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:22.240 up like intelligence, you know. 380 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:24.720 And most of them are. Yeah, that's what That's what 381 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:27.759 I've learned is that most of the time shit gets 382 00:20:27.799 --> 00:20:30.079 like way too extreme and way too out of hand. 383 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:31.759 There's there's fed hands in there. 384 00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:35.000 Oh well, I mean if you look at Jim Jones especially, 385 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:38.559 he looks like a CIA operative, Like he literally like 386 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:42.680 Stan Smith on American Dad. You know, like if you 387 00:20:42.680 --> 00:20:45.640 put Stan Smith in aviators, you got Jim Jones for sure. 388 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:50.599 Basically, yeah, it's uh, it's it's a wild thing. But yeah, 389 00:20:50.599 --> 00:20:52.960 that's whenever I saw that you texted that, I was like, 390 00:20:53.960 --> 00:20:56.279 of course you would. Of course you're gonna oh yeah. 391 00:20:56.519 --> 00:20:59.200 So you know what's even funnier about it, Uh, I 392 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:04.119 called on Joseph Smith and the Angel Moroni to help 393 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:04.640 me with it. 394 00:21:05.200 --> 00:21:07.039 So and it worked. 395 00:21:07.359 --> 00:21:09.119 Yeah, I much love to those guys. 396 00:21:09.759 --> 00:21:12.039 Shout out to find a couple of plates somewhere. 397 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:14.920 Then, dude, yeah, because you know, because that's something that 398 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:17.200 were part of the story that really stuck with me. 399 00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:18.920 The first time I heard it in like third grade, 400 00:21:19.640 --> 00:21:21.920 was you know, he was asking guy like, hey, there's 401 00:21:21.960 --> 00:21:24.359 all these other religions, which one has it right? And 402 00:21:24.359 --> 00:21:25.680 God's like none of them have it right. You have 403 00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:28.880 to start your own church. And I was like, jackpot 404 00:21:29.680 --> 00:21:32.319 so ever since I was like eight or nine years old, 405 00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:34.720 I was like, how do I do that? 406 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:38.519 Yeah, that's great, that's so much fun. 407 00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:41.400 Dude, just get over the chat. Taylor said, how goes it? 408 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:45.359 Happy Wednesday? All, Thank you guys so much for joining 409 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:47.160 us tonight. This is this is one of the bigger 410 00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:49.160 groups we've had in a little while. So it's awesome. 411 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:51.839 And I think that they're just here for Byron. He's 412 00:21:51.880 --> 00:21:52.200 the man. 413 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:53.720 Really, I mean, who doesn't want to. 414 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:55.440 Listen to Byron. It's been a little minute too. This 415 00:21:55.559 --> 00:21:57.440 is like I feel like it's been like one of 416 00:21:57.480 --> 00:22:00.000 the longer times we gone without talking to you. 417 00:22:00.039 --> 00:22:01.799 It's yeah, it's almost embarrassing. 418 00:22:01.960 --> 00:22:03.920 I think it's only been like I think it's only 419 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:05.000 been like three months. 420 00:22:05.279 --> 00:22:07.000 Yeah, too long. 421 00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:06.960 Long. 422 00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:07.279 Yeah. 423 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:09.240 I mean there for a little while we were doing 424 00:22:09.359 --> 00:22:10.480 like once a month. 425 00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:13.480 Yeah, yeah, something like that six weeks or something. 426 00:22:13.519 --> 00:22:15.920 Yeah, going a quarter of a fucking year without talking 427 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:17.680 to you, dude, the fuck is that all about? 428 00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:18.000 Dude? 429 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:21.319 Super Markey said, sorry, I'm late, guys, just got home, 430 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:25.480 had to shower. What up, Supermarkey? Good to see you, Bud. 431 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:29.839 And then of course, yeah, Norah bringing up the meta 432 00:22:29.880 --> 00:22:34.440 mysteries church and cult of conspiracy, real cult, you know that. Man, 433 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:36.200 I'm actually kind of jealous. It does sound like a 434 00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:38.200 lot of fun, because. 435 00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:41.279 Dude, I think you and Jacob should get special like 436 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:45.039 uh like macho man Randy Savage style custom sunglasses me. 437 00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:47.319 Like one that says cult, the other one says conspiracy 438 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:50.839 across the lenses. Yeah, yeah, you know, or maybe even 439 00:22:50.839 --> 00:22:53.400 just cult the conspiracies on on one, you know, just 440 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:53.880 across it. 441 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:56.279 Yeah, we'll have to get a slim Gym sponsorship. 442 00:22:56.880 --> 00:22:59.599 Oh I know, man, some of those old sense Slim 443 00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:01.920 jimmercials are so good. I remember the one. It was 444 00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:04.720 like the snowboarders and they're like, wrestling is not an 445 00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:08.480 extreme sport, and all of a sudden an extreme sport. 446 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:11.640 He's like, you see like all these like snowboarding terms 447 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:12.680 and like dropping elbows on. 448 00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:15.599 Dude, he's like shaking the. 449 00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:18.200 Board upside down. Well they're still feet are still hanging 450 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:19.319 upside down in it. You know, like. 451 00:23:21.079 --> 00:23:23.680 Those commercials were so ridiculous back in the day when 452 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:25.799 we were growing up. I feel like they they had 453 00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:28.640 just really figured it out, you know, they really figured 454 00:23:28.640 --> 00:23:30.880 out how to get into our mind. Because some of 455 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:33.720 those commercials I can still see today. Oh yeah, what 456 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:35.000 I mean it was like, I don't know, it was 457 00:23:35.039 --> 00:23:38.200 like the peak of understanding how to really get into 458 00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:40.559 the mind, and it was just everywhere, you. 459 00:23:40.559 --> 00:23:44.920 Know, the Supermarke he said Jay Usa one word four letters. 460 00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:52.039 Oh shit, Yeah, dude, it's really good to catch up 461 00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:54.000 with you. And it's awesome that you're starting that, uh 462 00:23:54.039 --> 00:23:57.279 your church, and you know, whatever you need from us, 463 00:23:57.519 --> 00:23:59.799 I mean we're we're willing to help you with whatever 464 00:23:59.799 --> 00:24:00.240 you need. 465 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:00.440 Bro. 466 00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:03.559 So, uh, you need any kind of technical support, you 467 00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:07.400 need any kind of I mean apostle you need you 468 00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:10.559 know what I mean. He's not going for its available 469 00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:10.920 to you. 470 00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:17.319 Yeah. You know what's what's cool too, is uh but 471 00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:20.319 because because I'm filed in uh Virginia and I'm not 472 00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:24.400 actually operating in Virginia, I can't use it to get 473 00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:29.240 any like property taxes off. But but each church can 474 00:24:29.319 --> 00:24:33.559 have one property that's a tax exempt you know, or 475 00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:35.799 you can have like a branch of a church into 476 00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:38.920 a you know, like so I can open a branch 477 00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:42.400 in like Kentucky and and that property could be you know, 478 00:24:42.519 --> 00:24:45.880 exempt from property taxes. But you're exempt from property taxes anyways. 479 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:48.119 Just people don't, you know, take them to court and 480 00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:50.359 you get taken out the list. 481 00:24:50.440 --> 00:24:52.599 I've heard, I've heard of that. It just sounds it 482 00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:54.960 sounds crazy to me that that's actually a thing. But 483 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:57.279 you just have to actually speak up and say, hey, 484 00:24:57.319 --> 00:24:58.960 you know, like I don't want to do this. 485 00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:02.119 It's basically like McDonald's and Burger King and gas stations 486 00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:04.519 that are supposed to pay property taxes. People aren't supposed 487 00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:06.839 to pay property taxes because we have the right to 488 00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:09.799 own property. You can't tax right because it's God given. 489 00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:13.440 You know. A lot of that comes from the Bar Association. 490 00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:16.119 Even with the five O eight, you know, like the 491 00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:19.039 I R. S. I don't think is even legally supposed 492 00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:21.960 to regulate what a church is and how a church operates. 493 00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:24.880 But they the way they got around that was they 494 00:25:24.920 --> 00:25:28.640 had this separate tax code where you're automatically tax exempt 495 00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:30.960 and as long as you file the documents, you're all good. 496 00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:33.400 But they just don't tell anyone that exists. You couldn't 497 00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:35.480 even look it up on the Like when I was 498 00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:41.880 on the Commissioner or what was it called the States 499 00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:46.839 Corporate Commissioner or something, Corporate Commissions for Virginia, it's basically 500 00:25:46.839 --> 00:25:50.960 the Treasury or whatever. Like I said, they had all 501 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:52.920 the tax codes you can, you can pull them all up, 502 00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:56.759 except for the five O eight. You couldn't pull it up. Wow. 503 00:25:57.400 --> 00:26:00.400 Yeah, they try and make it as as difficult as possible. 504 00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:02.640 They trying to collect all that cheese, all the cheese 505 00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:06.640 they can, you know, and just out of curiosity, what 506 00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:11.119 are some of your philosophies and practices that you'll be 507 00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:15.240 preaching on uh on on church are? First of all, 508 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:16.759 are you gonna be doing it on Sundays? Is it 509 00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:17.880 gonna be a Saturday thing? 510 00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:21.079 I think it's gonna be Monday. I think I'm gonna 511 00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:24.720 do it on Monday, Moonday, Yeah, Moonday, and going back 512 00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:27.720 to pro wrestling. I think I'm gonna call it my 513 00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:30.599 live streams that I start doing on Monday, Moonday night 514 00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:36.240 raw nice. You know, I might put congregation in there too, 515 00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:41.039 just to you know, make it you know, just to 516 00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:43.359 stay in good faith and let let them make it 517 00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:46.039 clear what I'm doing, you know, so that. 518 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:48.480 Way it doesn't just look like a hangout or anything 519 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:52.799 like that. So is it is there any kind of 520 00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:55.559 like specific direction you're trying to go as far as 521 00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:58.079 magic and maybe the occult and stuff like that, or 522 00:26:58.160 --> 00:27:00.839 is it kind of just gonna be why ranging all 523 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:05.920 encompassing eclectic, Like we just covered the eclectic Witcher recently, 524 00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:06.799 and it's kind of like a. 525 00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:11.160 It might not be much different than what you guys 526 00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:14.400 do for your solo shows or like what you did 527 00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:19.680 for your last Wizard Wednesday, you know, where you just 528 00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:22.880 kind of go over like a book or some type 529 00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.079 of spiritual teaching and you know, reflect on it and 530 00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:28.440 stuff like that. You know. So but as far as 531 00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:31.640 like practices go, you know, of course it's going to 532 00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:35.680 be like operative. You know, like theory is cool and all, 533 00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:39.359 but there's a huge disconnect from theory and reality. So 534 00:27:39.359 --> 00:27:42.319 so I just you know, I just want to take 535 00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:44.640 people from right here and bring them up to here. 536 00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:45.000 You know. 537 00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:48.720 Yeah, yeah, I like what you say too about how 538 00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:51.960 you feel that magic is essentially your god given right. 539 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:55.160 And you know, we talk all the time about even 540 00:27:55.240 --> 00:28:00.160 like certain rituals, even you know, and how easy and 541 00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:04.599 simple it really is to get into. Some people may 542 00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:08.359 call him a habit, but if you're conscious about your habits, 543 00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:10.599 then it becomes somewhat of a ritual, I believe. 544 00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:15.079 Right, yeah, totally, you know, I mean the way athletes 545 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:17.359 have their superstitions, or commercial fishermen. I don't know if 546 00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:20.000 you guys are friends with any commercial fishermen, have known 547 00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:25.000 any commercial fishermen. I mean, those guys, are they very superstitious, 548 00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:27.119 ten times more than anyone you'll ever meet. 549 00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:31.000 Oh yeah, yeah. My dad was a hardcore in the 550 00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:33.200 casino for a little while, and every time i'd see 551 00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:35.720 him sitting at, you know, one of the slot machines, 552 00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:37.640 he'd be doing some weird shit with his hands. I'm like, 553 00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:39.960 what the fuck you doing? He's like, I have a process. 554 00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:43.000 I'm like, okay, dance. 555 00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:47.519 Yeah, yeah, But yeah, I think that that's uh, it's 556 00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:50.119 it's important, and I think that, like, you know, we've 557 00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:53.599 talked about certain rituals and stuff like that, and that's 558 00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:56.440 really why I try every single episode to try and 559 00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:00.359 include at least one ritual to practice whatever as we're 560 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.160 talking about, just to show how simple and easy it 561 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:06.319 actually is. And for the people that make question, you know, 562 00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:08.720 where we're pulling this from, is it coming from the 563 00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:11.799 dark side. There is never any mention of a demon 564 00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:14.839 or a devil or an underlaw, uh you know, underworld 565 00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:17.680 kind of character or anything like that. It's really more 566 00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:21.680 so just co creat I feel like it's it's almost 567 00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:24.440 like a co creative kind of thing. Like everything that 568 00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:26.960 we do, you know, whenever we put it into practice, 569 00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:30.359 it feels like you're working with the source, or working 570 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:32.640 with the universe, or working with if you're working with 571 00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:36.440 an angel or whatever, right, Like, it feels very like 572 00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:37.559 co creative. 573 00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:42.000 Yeah, the the more you do magic, and you know, 574 00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:47.559 especially if you can leave your superstitions and preconceived notions 575 00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:52.279 and programming, you know, leave that at the door. But uh, 576 00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:57.799 but it definitely doing magic, especially like consistently meditation all that, 577 00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:01.160 having a consistent practice, it'll start to connect you with 578 00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:03.920 your higher self, you know, with the Creator. With all 579 00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:06.200 of that, you know, And so. 580 00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:09.440 I wanted to ask you too. I saw somebody who 581 00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:13.079 you know, they were talking about the difference between uh, 582 00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:17.799 you know, white in black witchcraft or light in dark witchcraft, 583 00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:21.359 the occult whatever, right, And they say that the people 584 00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:24.519 of the light they know not to do baneful magic 585 00:30:24.559 --> 00:30:27.960 because of the threefold law, like whatever you do will 586 00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:29.880 come back to you three times or whatever. And then 587 00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:32.759 the people that are practicing in the dark, they are 588 00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:36.519 like just totally disregarding that. And so I wonder, you know, 589 00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:41.720 just psychologically, even whenever you're whenever you're practicing baineful magic, 590 00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:43.400 for example, because I know you've done it before, you 591 00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:46.960 dirty little boy, but not just kidding, but whenever you're 592 00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:49.359 practicing stuff like that, do you keep that in the 593 00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:51.079 back of your mind or do you look at that 594 00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:53.640 as just like it's a stupid superstition that you know 595 00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:54.880 holds people accountable. 596 00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:57.759 It is a stupid superspetition, And it's and it's a 597 00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:01.680 misunderstanding of the three fold log because it's because it's 598 00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:05.640 not what you put out comes back to you threefold. 599 00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:09.000 It's if I slap you on the face, it's your 600 00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:12.240 obligation to smack me either three times or three times 601 00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:16.759 as hard. You're supposed to return it threefold. So you know, 602 00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:20.720 if you know, if someone rips you off, you rip 603 00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:24.640 them off harder, you know, like you're supposed to destroy 604 00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:27.599 your enemy. I think it comes from the second initiation 605 00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:30.160 in WICCA, might be the third, but I think it 606 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:34.839 might be the second. Okay, where where you're going through 607 00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:38.559 these stages. The first one you get flogged like three times, 608 00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:41.599 and then six times and then nine times, and then 609 00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:47.319 after they're initiated, they flog you. So as you lash 610 00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:49.920 them three times, they're supposed to lash you nine times 611 00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:52.319 and then you know, twenty one twenty seven. 612 00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:54.519 So is that that's a WICCAN rule? 613 00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:58.920 Then yeah, it's it's not if I put out negativity 614 00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:01.680 it comes back to me three fold. It's if you 615 00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:06.240 bring me negativity, I'm going to destroy you. You know, 616 00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:08.839 you have an obligation to you know. 617 00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:12.200 Yeah, so it's even more than an eye for an eye, 618 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.039 it's my eye, you take my eye, I'm I'm taking 619 00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.559 both your eyes, and I'm I might get your nose. 620 00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:21.319 Yeah totally, you know. So yeah, but you know, but 621 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.519 I and you know, some of the black conditions especially 622 00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:27.319 might get triggered by this. But I do think there 623 00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:32.000 is some type of mechanism in this realm that could 624 00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:37.079 be considered karma. And and there are people that throw 625 00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:39.200 a lot of curses around for no reason, and a 626 00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:41.079 lot of those people do get destroyed, and a lot 627 00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:44.039 of people think that's just action and reaction. I'm not 628 00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:47.839 so sure, you know. I do think there's a I 629 00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:49.799 do think there's like a mechanism here that could be 630 00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:52.119 considered karma. And I think there's ways of negated too. 631 00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:54.359 And I think that's why some of the most evil 632 00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:59.279 people in the world do so many charitable aids. You know, 633 00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:02.759 they all don't it to charity and set up nonprofits 634 00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:04.480 and you know, and a lot of these people are 635 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.480 doing it in a way to subvert even more. But 636 00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:10.640 still I think there's I think there's like these weird 637 00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:13.359 little like kind of like life hacks, to kind of 638 00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:16.519 hacking the negative effects from some bad karma that you 639 00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:17.240 might get. You know. 640 00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:23.640 I felt that way too, Like anytime, let's say, something 641 00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:27.720 is weirdly talked about in a movie, right, something that 642 00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.799 has never happened, but then a year or two later, 643 00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:34.559 it's almost like that movie was a prophecy of sorts, 644 00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:36.920 And I kind of feel like they do that to 645 00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:40.319 kind of release the the maybe the karma debt that 646 00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:41.799 they accrue. 647 00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:44.759 Yeah, it easily because it kind of puts it more 648 00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:46.240 on your lap. You know. 649 00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:48.960 Well, I think too it, you know, because lately the 650 00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:51.079 way I've been looking at things is that everything is 651 00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:55.680 so conscious consciousness driven, you know, and so it's I 652 00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:58.680 think it's more so to put that information out and 653 00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.960 then almost like that karma, the that you were talking about, 654 00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:04.000 it kind of just sends it out and if it's 655 00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:06.920 in all of our awareness, it almost makes it happen, 656 00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:10.239 you know. If that many people are thinking about a 657 00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:13.159 certain thing, I feel like it's more likely to happen 658 00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:17.280 because consciousness is involved now. And that's like as far 659 00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:19.559 as I'm concerned, the way that I've been looking at it, 660 00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:22.599 I mean, without consciousness, you have nothing, and so I 661 00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:26.639 think consciousness is this. I think that's where the power is. 662 00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:30.679 And I think that's the ether, that's the whatever that is. 663 00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:34.840 When you send something out, you're sending it into consciousness. 664 00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:38.159 Yeah, And you know, I think they've been trying to 665 00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:42.440 stomp out, you know, the whole idea of what America 666 00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:45.239 was supposed to be in the American dream. And I 667 00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:47.199 think it's such a powerful thought for him, and it's 668 00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:49.239 in our you know, conscious so much that I think 669 00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:51.800 they're having me such a tough time stomping it out. 670 00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:55.079 You know, like, I'm sure if they you know, if 671 00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:56.679 they had it their way, we would have lost our 672 00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:57.519 guns twenty. 673 00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:01.320 Years ago, you know, probably farther back in Oh yeah, 674 00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:06.039 you know, right. Well, look, I kind of wanted to 675 00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:08.320 pick your brain a little bit because we've been covering 676 00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:12.920 a good amount of like wide ranging topics, and I 677 00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:15.800 feel like we got a pretty decent understanding about, you know, 678 00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:18.519 what they represent and what they actually mean, and just 679 00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:21.719 looking at them for the actual esoteric meaning rather than 680 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:25.280 getting caught up in verbiage and what did it literally mean? 681 00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:28.159 And I'm I believe that we're at the point like 682 00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:31.159 we don't really give a shit if anything literally happened. 683 00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:33.360 It's all about what can you gain from the myth 684 00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:36.599 and what can you gain from the story, because I 685 00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:40.719 believe that that's really where the nosis is. But just 686 00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:42.719 out of curiosity, have you ever looked into. 687 00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:44.159 The Druids a little bit? 688 00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:49.199 Yeah, I found that so fascinating doing that level of research. 689 00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:53.360 Now I know that it's it can be pretty skewed 690 00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:56.199 a little bit because a lot of their teachings were 691 00:35:56.719 --> 00:35:59.880 you know, burned or thrown away or collected and maybe 692 00:35:59.920 --> 00:36:02.960 the Vatican has it, who knows, right, But most of 693 00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:05.639 the stories really come from those who were battling them, 694 00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:09.840 and during that time it was the Roman Catholics I 695 00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:12.440 believe that were really the ones going over there and 696 00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:14.800 trying to take them out. But even the Roman Catholics 697 00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:20.679 would admit that during that time the oh hold on, 698 00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:25.039 let me do something real quick. That even during that time, 699 00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:26.719 the Catholics would say they would meet them on the 700 00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:31.440 battlefield and they would see the Druidic wizards essentially like 701 00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:35.559 forming fog and or they they could bring on rain 702 00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:38.679 or bring on lightning. Yeah, and it was just really wild. 703 00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:42.880 And so it's cool that even the enemy had something 704 00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:48.559 what I would deem positive, you know, to say about them. 705 00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:50.880 And I believe that they had to have been working 706 00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:52.639 with that kind of magic. I mean, do you think 707 00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:56.000 that that was propaganda, that that was just their reasoning 708 00:36:56.079 --> 00:36:58.480 for taking them out almost like a whole the whole 709 00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:01.199 Nephelum story. Well, they where they had the tainted blood, 710 00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:02.639 so of course we had to kill them, you know, 711 00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:04.719 like or do you believe that you know, that kind 712 00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:05.800 of stuff was actually going on? 713 00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:12.840 Yeah, yeah, I do. I do think they're doing magic. Yeah, 714 00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:17.360 and you know, manipulating weather with magic is it's not 715 00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:20.280 like an impossible thing to do, you know, Yeah, many 716 00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:23.559 to doing with radionics. You know, there's legends of Genghis 717 00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:26.119 con if he was even a real character, but where 718 00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:28.679 he was causing storms to take out his enemies and stuff, 719 00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:31.320 and yeah, it's a it's a thing man. People do it. 720 00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:35.199 Man. That is I just think that that is so cool. 721 00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:38.079 We're trying to bring it back, you know, neo Druidism 722 00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:41.039 or neo Druidry or whatever they're calling it nowadays. And 723 00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:44.280 you'll hear like some clapback on people saying something about that, oh, 724 00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:48.480 you can't possibly be practicing what the Druids were doing 725 00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:51.079 back then because none of their knowledge survived. And it's like, 726 00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:53.800 you know, that's part of the reason why it's called 727 00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:57.239 neo druid it's like the new way, Yeah. 728 00:37:56.840 --> 00:38:02.880 Totally, you know. And you know, people when it comes 729 00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:06.000 to trying to like revive these old traditions, you know, 730 00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:09.840 people gotta understand too, like they were using what they 731 00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:13.840 had available, you know. So I don't think it's good 732 00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:17.000 to just be like dogmatic about what trying to recreate 733 00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:19.760 what they're doing because now we have a lot more 734 00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:22.920 to draw from. Yeah, you know, we have a lot 735 00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:26.639 more resources, you know. I think just look at just 736 00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:28.400 look at the name plant right when I was talking 737 00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:30.599 about Nemo being like one of the best medicines you know, 738 00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:32.679 like I said, also works good for like removing curses 739 00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:35.480 and stuff. You know that comes from Australia. You know, 740 00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:39.159 like we can just order that on amazone whenever we want, 741 00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:42.039 you know, I mean, or wherever. You know, it's at 742 00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:43.760 most co ops, most food co ops, you know. 743 00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:46.199 So it's definitely an interesting time to be alive. 744 00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:46.519 Man. 745 00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:49.639 Information is everywhere, you know, at your fingertips. 746 00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:50.000 You know. 747 00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:53.360 It's it's pretty special, I think. And I think that 748 00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:56.239 you know, for a lot of people out there that 749 00:38:56.719 --> 00:39:01.400 aren't necessarily too concerned about being too dogmatic in whatever 750 00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:04.079 their teachings are, whatever the lessons they're trying to learn, 751 00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:06.960 is as long as they can be open minded, dude, 752 00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:09.559 a lot of this stuff really does make sense, you know, 753 00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:12.000 whether you're looking into witchcraft, are you're looking into magic, 754 00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:15.360 or you're looking into religion of sword, are you're looking 755 00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:18.599 into whatever ancient kind of mythology, Maybe you want to 756 00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:21.599 get a little Norse, pagan or whatever. I believe that 757 00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:24.880 if you can remain open minded enough about all of 758 00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:27.239 that that you can kind of pick and choose. And 759 00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:29.920 some people might call that cherry picking, but I think 760 00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:33.719 that you could possibly fuse a lot of that stuff together. 761 00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:37.159 Which you know, we recently did the Eclectic Witchcraft episode 762 00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.719 a couple days ago, and that was really all it's about. Like, 763 00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:42.920 and I know some people like there's some witches that 764 00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:46.119 are like, oh, eclectic witches. All right, You're not grounded 765 00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:48.599 in any kind of one thing. You're just taking a 766 00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:50.920 little bit from everywhere. But I feel like that's the 767 00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:54.519 best way to really learn. And also the same people 768 00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:57.639 that if you really think about it, like I would 769 00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:00.840 imagine that the maybe the first witch or the first 770 00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:03.800 witches or the first coven that was created, they weren't 771 00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:06.920 even necessarily pulling I mean, what were the grassroots of that. 772 00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:09.000 They probably pulled a little bit from here, pulled a 773 00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:11.320 little bit from there, and started putting together. 774 00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:15.480 Look at American voodoo or who dooo you know, but 775 00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:18.360 like like voodoo from like Louisiana and stuff from the South, 776 00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:22.239 you know, like they drew from different European cultures, folk 777 00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:27.119 magic they drew from Haitian folk magic, and they drew 778 00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:31.320 from like Native American folk magic, you know, plus like 779 00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:34.039 the Catholic and Christian influence on top of it, you know, 780 00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:37.360 the saints and everything. So you know, that's a pretty 781 00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:40.119 solid system of magic. You know, it doesn't resonate with 782 00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:44.039 me too much, but it's a pretty solid system of magic. 783 00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:46.639 And all they did was just using what's available to them. 784 00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:49.960 You know, they don't even use like some of the 785 00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:53.519 people in the Hoodoo crowd. Instead of using like parchment 786 00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:58.119 paper to draw their sigils or veves on, they'll just 787 00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:00.559 tear a piece off of a brown paper because that's 788 00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:03.639 that's the culture. That's what they were using. And whodo 789 00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:07.280 instead of a parchment paper, they would just use grocery. 790 00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:09.320 Bags, right, And a lot of that had to do with, 791 00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:11.719 you know, what was available. You know, we were going 792 00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:14.639 over that with this this last episode, and I was like, yeah, 793 00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:16.599 it would make so much more sense, you know, to 794 00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:20.320 just use what's around you rather than having to travel, 795 00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:22.159 you know, and I mean two days to go pick 796 00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.679 a certain type of herb or what have you. You know, 797 00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:27.960 you would just use what's around you and then just 798 00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:30.760 believe and assume that that's going to work, you know 799 00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:33.119 what I mean, And it makes so much, so much 800 00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:34.119 more sense, man. 801 00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:37.800 Yeah, you know, and I'll say this though, when I 802 00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:39.920 got into radionics, man, I don't do a lot of 803 00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:44.079 sympathetic magic at all. Like radionics kind of changed a 804 00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:46.480 lot of that aspect of my magic a lot, you know, 805 00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:49.639 And that just kind of goes with technology and things changing, 806 00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:53.039 I guess. But for me, it's it just works so 807 00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:55.880 much better when I just program a vigil candle, program 808 00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:58.159 all my information in there, fill it up with a 809 00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:00.480 bunch of awesome, clean energy, and then light it on 810 00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:04.199 my altar and let the spirits deal with it. That's 811 00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:06.000 the closest thing to like plug and play for like 812 00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:08.199 a spell for me, you know. But but you know, 813 00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:11.519 when I when I do sympathetic magic, all the times 814 00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:13.840 I've done it, you know, like did like an actual 815 00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:17.800 like spell, I mean, it works really good, you know. 816 00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:20.920 But I think the important thing is making contact with spirits, 817 00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:23.480 you know, because there's a lot of people that are 818 00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:27.000 into witchcraft community and they're almost just treading water, like 819 00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:30.079 you know, they'll they'll throw stuff together and do a spell. 820 00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:32.440 But you know, like I really think you should master 821 00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:35.320 evocation number one like that should be like one. The 822 00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:38.920 second development is like key for everything, but like the 823 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:41.480 one like magical technique. I think it is probably one 824 00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:44.960 of the most important things that master is like evocation, right, 825 00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:48.280 because you know, when you can like effectively summon someone 826 00:42:48.360 --> 00:42:51.440 like Belile, I mean, you can almost do anything and 827 00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:53.920 it's gonna work at that point, right, you know. So, 828 00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:56.119 so all the spells really doing is just anchoring it 829 00:42:56.159 --> 00:42:57.679 in the physical realm. 830 00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:00.679 Mm hm, you know, speaking it out right. 831 00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:03.840 Yeah, it's interesting and knowing that you have that help 832 00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:06.840 too because it Now, this is something that I did 833 00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:09.280 want to ask you specifically because I know that you 834 00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:14.199 work with a lot of help and whenever you're working 835 00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:20.519 with that, do you literally, like literally not figuratively, do 836 00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:28.880 you literally believe that these people, spirits, demons, angels are 837 00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:32.199 actually there? Or is it something that you're telling your 838 00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:35.960 mind to believe to make the make the spell work. 839 00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:39.760 Uh, there's definitely a spirit in the room. Now are 840 00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:42.960 these eggrigors or do they exist outside of the human experience? 841 00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.480 Who knows? You know, it's like chicken or the egg 842 00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:49.840 at that point. But uh, but but you want to 843 00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:51.719 you want to do both so you kind of okay, 844 00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:53.559 I'll bring it up right here because this is kind 845 00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:56.280 of important, I guess. So, you know, you have the 846 00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:59.920 psychological framework of magic. These are all just archetypes, you know, 847 00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:02.639 They all you know, part of your subconscious part of creation. 848 00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:06.119 You know, the human experience anthropomorphized basically is you know, 849 00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:09.199 to make it easier to work with and conceptualize. And 850 00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:15.360 the people that have that kind of mindset, they're usually 851 00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:21.559 a lot healthier and they're more stable as human beings. 852 00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:25.760 Where people that strictly go on the literal aspect of magic, 853 00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:29.039 where these are real, they're separate from us. They're conscious 854 00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:31.239 and self aware beings like those are the people that 855 00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:35.719 seem to suffer a little bit more with magic. But 856 00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:40.480 there's there's a rub to this though, because the people 857 00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:43.920 that are in the psychological framework of magic, a lot 858 00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:47.079 of them don't understand just how real and physical magic is. 859 00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:49.440 You know, there's a lot of people that subscribe to 860 00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:53.400 that psychological framework where they don't even think it's possible 861 00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:57.440 to curse someone or terminate a target with a curse. 862 00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:02.639 You know, we're both where almost everyone that takes like 863 00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:07.440 the spirit spirits being real and literal almost all of 864 00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.519 them know for a fact, you can kill people with magic. Yeah, 865 00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:14.920 So so it seems like, you know, you're probably going 866 00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:21.000 to get better results from the literal framework, but the 867 00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:24.719 psychological framework is a lot safer and healthier and stable. 868 00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:28.199 So I think it might be best for some people 869 00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:30.159 to try to find a balance in between that. 870 00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:30.760 M h. 871 00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:33.719 And why do you say, why do you just to 872 00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:35.719 help me understand that? Why why would you say that 873 00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:39.280 it's safer to do the psychological route. Is that because 874 00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:42.400 that you're just you're disconnected from whatever that is, or 875 00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:46.920 in the psychological route, there really is no other thing 876 00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:47.840 to be connected to. 877 00:45:48.679 --> 00:45:51.400 Well, well you sort of. I think you had it 878 00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:54.159 right with the with the first part of that. But 879 00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:57.320 but there's the other thing that it's like a mindset 880 00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:00.519 that these are already inside of you, Like these are archetypes, 881 00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:02.280 are already within you. So it's almost like a part 882 00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:04.840 of yourself that you're putting out in front of you 883 00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:07.440 to work with. You know, it's almost like shadow work. 884 00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:11.440 And that is true. I mean, the whole psychological part 885 00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:15.679 is true. The literal part is uh, you know, it's 886 00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:20.760 probably mostly true, but it's like you know, like you know, 887 00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:23.480 like where did these spirits come from originally? You know? 888 00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:29.719 You know so uh you know, well, I mean because 889 00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:34.360 because you look at like angels. You know, it doesn't 890 00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:38.199 matter if you're talking about the Christian pantheon, the Norse pantheon. Uh. 891 00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:43.079 You know, like basically every single religion, every single myth, 892 00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:46.239 all the pagans, everything, all the all of it was 893 00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:49.119 based off of the skyclock. Like these are all archetypes 894 00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:52.480 for like constellations and aspects of the human experience. You know, 895 00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:54.920 like every one of them has Mars as the god 896 00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:58.840 of war, Jupiter as the expanding force, Saturn as the 897 00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:03.039 contricting force. You know, you know, the Sun is always 898 00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:05.159 the risen savior of man. 899 00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:08.039 You know, goes to sleep for three days, rises back up. 900 00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:10.519 Yeah, you know, and uh and even like a lot 901 00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:12.960 of our secret societies are all based on the same thing, 902 00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:15.760 you know, like Freemasons and stuff. But you know, say 903 00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:18.960 with instead of three kings falling the star undeath the 904 00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:22.320 just the birth of the sun, they have three Ruffians. 905 00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:25.199 Instead of dying for three nights, he suffers three Hymabyth 906 00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:29.079 suffers three deadly blows and then and then he's resurrected. 907 00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:29.400 You know. 908 00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:31.559 Wow, So it's all. 909 00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:34.239 Yeah, it's all based on the same concepts, you know, 910 00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:35.960 it's not so. 911 00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:39.239 And as far as you're the way that you're putting 912 00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:43.239 at like just trying to understand these spirits and these 913 00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:47.719 deities and angels and whatever, you know, psychologically, do you 914 00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:51.880 feel like, essentially you know, if they are Tulpa's or 915 00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:53.960 most of them are going to be egg gors because 916 00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:56.559 they're pretty well known, But like, do you feel as 917 00:47:56.599 --> 00:48:00.239 almost as if that you're projecting them from you? And 918 00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:02.679 that's why it's better to work with them psychologically as 919 00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:06.480 opposed to looking at them as if they're literal forces 920 00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:08.800 that you don't have any control of that are in 921 00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:10.920 the room with you. Is that why that, you know, 922 00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:12.719 the psychological route is a little bit safer. 923 00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:16.800 Yeah, probably, But I try to have the I mean, 924 00:48:18.199 --> 00:48:20.159 I basically feel like I'm in control the whole time. 925 00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:23.039 You know. That's something I've learned a lot working with spirits. 926 00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:24.679 And there's some spirits you definitely don't want to piss 927 00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:30.880 off and be disrespectful to. But for the most part, they, 928 00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:34.199 even like feral spirits out in nature, seem to be 929 00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:38.960 obedient to us for whatever reason. You know, it takes 930 00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:41.000 the discipline and some willpower. But if you have like 931 00:48:41.039 --> 00:48:44.519 strong willpower, I think that for whatever reason, they're completely 932 00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:45.360 obedient to us. 933 00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:47.679 And you know, I think that that's why the Druids 934 00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:49.840 had it right, dude. You know, they didn't go into 935 00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:52.159 a church or a temple. They just had the grove. 936 00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:54.280 They were out in there in the fucking woods, and 937 00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:58.280 they were working with the elements and the nature, spirits 938 00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:00.519 and stuff like that. Like that makes them most amount 939 00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:03.559 of sense if I mean, depending on what you think. 940 00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:06.480 If you believe that humanity is native to Earth, then 941 00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:08.400 it would be your divine right to be able to 942 00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:09.519 work with those things, right. 943 00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:14.840 Yeah. You know, some of the right hand path, especially 944 00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:18.280 the old school right hand path magicians, they had this 945 00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:21.480 mindset that we are created in the image of God, 946 00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:25.400 and the spirits obey us because because of that, because 947 00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:29.320 because we're a reflection of God, you know. And even 948 00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:31.000 with the law, you know how we started with the 949 00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:35.760 church and everything. The law is structured, especially in America 950 00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:37.599 because we have the Constitution of the Bill of Rights, 951 00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:40.239 most of the Bill of Rights. But you know where 952 00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:46.719 it's like God created man, Man created government, government created corporation, towns, 953 00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:49.920 boroughs and you know, statues and codes and shit like that. 954 00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:52.559 You know. So we're like up here above the government, 955 00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:55.480 you know. And so whenever you get into like the 956 00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:59.039 legal process, they always try to bring you under their control. 957 00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:02.760 And but when you actually know the law, especially like 958 00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:07.000 the real nuts and bolts of the law. It because 959 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:09.400 I used to always think that the system was so 960 00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:12.800 far gone I just needed to be destroyed and rebuilt. 961 00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:15.119 But when I started learning the law, I was like, 962 00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:17.840 holy shit, dude, our founding forefathers knew what was up. 963 00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:20.760 It's a pretty solid system, Like, it works pretty well. 964 00:50:21.159 --> 00:50:22.360 We just forgot how to use it. 965 00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:24.400 Oh they were freemasons. They definitely knew what the fuck 966 00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:25.119 was up, dude. 967 00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:27.800 Oh yeah, And you know, back in the eighteen hundreds, 968 00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:31.199 we were reading more books on the law. We owned 969 00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:34.199 more books on the law than Britain, did, you know, 970 00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:36.800 because everyone was just reading the law, everyone, you know, 971 00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:40.800 even Joseph Smith. You know, he allegedly was just some farmer, 972 00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:42.079 which I don't think so. I think he was a 973 00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:43.920 wealthy guy. I think he came from a little bit 974 00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:49.280 of a pedigree. But you know, he knew the law. 975 00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:51.679 He knew how to file documents, how to be a church. 976 00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:53.800 Everyone knew how to be a lawyer back then, especially 977 00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:56.639 people that were kind of wealthy and came from good families. 978 00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:00.119 They all knew how to be their own lawyers. All 979 00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:02.800 of our founding forefathers, that was one of the professions 980 00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:05.719 they had. They were lawyers, you know, even though they 981 00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:08.360 are really farmers and generals and shit, but they they 982 00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:11.079 all knew the law well enough to represent themselves and 983 00:51:11.199 --> 00:51:12.239 represent other people. 984 00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:15.000 Oh dude, they were super advanced too. Like, even by 985 00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:17.800 the age of like twenty five twenty six, they were 986 00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:22.480 so far like like entrenched in their career and their 987 00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:25.960 understanding of this reality and and their their understanding of 988 00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:28.400 the law and stuff like that. It is pretty impressive 989 00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:30.559 to go back and look at like, all right, you know, 990 00:51:30.719 --> 00:51:33.920 like Thomas Jefferson or somebody like that, for example, I 991 00:51:33.920 --> 00:51:36.639 don't know how old he was, but just hypothetically, you know, 992 00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:39.360 whenever he was like twenty five, he was already signing 993 00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:43.119 the fucking Declaration of Independence like shit like that, you know. Yeah, 994 00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:47.119 And it's like it's crazy that, you know, how I guess, 995 00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:50.400 well taught they were, and intelligent they were and stuff 996 00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:54.280 like that. But yeah, man, it's uh times times be changing, 997 00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:56.360 but I think the tide is turning on that. 998 00:51:57.159 --> 00:51:59.039 So it's one of those things. Yeah, Like I always 999 00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:02.440 mentioned that I'm gonna creates a hardcore creationists, and so 1000 00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:04.480 I think it's one of those things where this realm 1001 00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:07.320 was built just for us and we are the apex 1002 00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:08.000 of this realm. 1003 00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:11.880 That's something I want to ask you because we've had 1004 00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:16.400 conversations with numerous people talking about well, mainly our boy 1005 00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:21.199 Optimistic Bank shout out and he brings up pantheism, And 1006 00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:23.760 at first I was like, you know, at first, I'm like, 1007 00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:27.039 I don't know. That is everybody me and I am 1008 00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:29.920 I everybody and am I, you know, part of the 1009 00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:34.679 call it the Creator or the One or whatever you 1010 00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:36.800 want to call it. It's like, you know, And I 1011 00:52:36.840 --> 00:52:38.519 sat with that for a little while, and then it 1012 00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:42.639 started to make more sense because if there is no separation, 1013 00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:46.679 then of course you would have some kind of I 1014 00:52:46.679 --> 00:52:49.480 don't want to say leniency over working with the spirits 1015 00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:51.719 and working with the angels and working with whoever it 1016 00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:54.679 is you're trying to work with. But like, maybe that's 1017 00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:59.000 why you have certain like domain to I don't want 1018 00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:01.599 to say use them, but with them, right and so 1019 00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:06.960 I don't know. And also there's you know, just with 1020 00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:10.119 my whole experience and DMT and going to the void 1021 00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:12.159 and everything and everything was gone and the only thing 1022 00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:14.880 that was there was just my own awareness and my 1023 00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:17.639 own consciousness. And I feel like even whenever you go 1024 00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:19.639 into a dream like this is how I kind of 1025 00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:22.159 convince myself of it. I could just be straight up 1026 00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:24.840 with every single one of these shows, I question, like, 1027 00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:27.920 am I slowly losing it? Every single episode? Like I 1028 00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:30.559 questioned that because I'm like, maybe I don't have it 1029 00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:32.239 right and I got to start over from scratch. But 1030 00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:35.159 I feel like I'm pretty on. But whenever it comes 1031 00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:37.119 to that, like, all right, so when you go to 1032 00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:39.920 sleep at night and let's say you have it, are 1033 00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:42.639 you somebody like that? Like, are you like a prolific 1034 00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:43.719 dreamer by any means? 1035 00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:46.880 Yeah, usually lucy dreams and all that go out of body. 1036 00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:50.000 Huh okay, all right, So in that dream, who created 1037 00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:50.519 that world? 1038 00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:53.840 Yeah? You know that's a that's a good one. 1039 00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:56.840 You know, like it could all be us, you know, 1040 00:53:56.920 --> 00:53:59.679 it could all just be an absolute, all total mind 1041 00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:03.039 fuck because that world in the dream reality, no matter 1042 00:54:03.320 --> 00:54:05.119 no matter where you are or who you are, or 1043 00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:07.760 who your family is, or what you're working or anything 1044 00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:11.480 like that. That is that's happening in your mind, right, Like, 1045 00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:14.199 or do we believe that this is your jumping dimensions 1046 00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:16.920 you're going to other timelines. Then that's where it starts 1047 00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:18.480 to get a little sketchy because we don't know. There's 1048 00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:20.559 no way to really be able to like confirm that, 1049 00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:23.440 but it definitely feels like to me that that stuff 1050 00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:27.440 is going on in our mind. And I mean, all right, 1051 00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:28.159 who created that? 1052 00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:30.800 Yeah, well, yeah, you get to the point there, like 1053 00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:34.360 what's the mind? You know, because uh, you know, like 1054 00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:37.800 I think that our consciousness doesn't come from our brain 1055 00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:39.559 at all. I think our brain is just a receiver 1056 00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:42.280 for the consciousness. Yes, you know, it's like a radio, 1057 00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:45.360 you know. And I think that's like one of the 1058 00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:48.280 things that some of the later Buddhists like monks or 1059 00:54:48.280 --> 00:54:50.280 profits or whatever you want to call them, the leaders 1060 00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:54.039 of the truth, kind of got wrong because, uh, you know, 1061 00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:57.480 and Buddhism is they think there is no soul because 1062 00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:00.679 because the text is like, this is not the soul, 1063 00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:03.000 this is not the soul, This is not the soul. 1064 00:55:03.039 --> 00:55:05.599 So they take it as you know what it's saying 1065 00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:09.960 is like you you are not your brain, you are 1066 00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:11.960 not your heart, like these are just you know, your 1067 00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:13.079 soul is something else. 1068 00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:16.519 Yeah, that makes sense, you know, I'd buy that. 1069 00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:20.679 And then you know, the one of the little uh 1070 00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:23.280 you know, a lot of spiritual people will talk about 1071 00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:25.639 it and some of the old ocult books. But if 1072 00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:29.199 you just sit and just close your eyes and just 1073 00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:32.400 observe your thoughts and don't try to regulate them, don't 1074 00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:35.199 try to control them, just sit in the background and 1075 00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:37.280 observe them, just let them come in and go as 1076 00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:40.320 they please. You know, do that for like ten minutes, 1077 00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:43.679 and then you got to ask yourself, if I'm my thoughts, 1078 00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:45.920 then who is that paying attention to them? 1079 00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:49.719 M hmm. Yeah. It definitely doesn't feel like the version 1080 00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:52.320 of you that's paying attention to them is actually coming 1081 00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:56.800 up with thoughts. Like you're not literally constructing these thoughts 1082 00:55:57.159 --> 00:55:59.840 in real time. It feels like you're just a wit 1083 00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:02.440 of them. And that's the strangest thing when you start 1084 00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:03.119 to think about it. 1085 00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:06.760 Yeah, people aren't their thoughts, they're not their beliefs, you know, 1086 00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:10.360 And and it's really unfortunate there's so many people struggle 1087 00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:11.159 with that, you know. 1088 00:56:11.199 --> 00:56:12.920 Well, they don't know how to separate it, you know, 1089 00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:15.719 because you've never really had an opportunity so much to 1090 00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:19.239 be able to separate it because some people believe that 1091 00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:21.559 or they don't believe in meditation, or they don't believe 1092 00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:24.960 in psychedelics, or they don't believe in breath work or 1093 00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:28.840 anything like that. Like, and that's that's very unfortunate that 1094 00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:30.559 some people are taught that way. 1095 00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:33.079 But real quick to the people out there that are 1096 00:56:33.079 --> 00:56:37.000 skepticle of this, try it for a month, Try it 1097 00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:39.199 for a month, and then tell me, dude. 1098 00:56:39.239 --> 00:56:41.079 And it's helped me out so much to be able 1099 00:56:41.119 --> 00:56:46.960 to separate like this meat suit, just understanding that it's 1100 00:56:47.079 --> 00:56:50.679 not me and understanding that like it's up to me 1101 00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:53.519 on all right, am I going to react to a 1102 00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:54.559 situation like this? 1103 00:56:55.280 --> 00:56:55.480 You know? 1104 00:56:55.559 --> 00:56:59.519 Because they all a reaction is is just essentially kind 1105 00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:04.320 of buying into the system. It's almost habitual. Whereas if 1106 00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:06.800 you're aware in the moment, and you can keep that 1107 00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:09.960 level of awareness in every single moment, then you're gonna 1108 00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:13.239 most of the time prevent yourself from reacting in a 1109 00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:14.280 way that you're gonna regret. 1110 00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:15.280 Mm hmm. 1111 00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:15.760 Yeah. 1112 00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:18.599 And I think that that's that's really interesting. Actually, I 1113 00:57:18.639 --> 00:57:21.920 think that's the one thing that that really separates us 1114 00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:24.519 from from animal, you know what I mean. Because an 1115 00:57:24.519 --> 00:57:27.280 animal is just gonna react, that's just their animal nature, 1116 00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:30.960 their instinct, their protective whatever. We have the ability to 1117 00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:35.920 analyze the situation and almost rise above or even access 1118 00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:38.440 your higher self and see it at a higher perspective 1119 00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:40.840 and really try to figure out what's the best way 1120 00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:43.440 to go about this, you know. And sometimes we're better 1121 00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:44.679 at it than others for sure. 1122 00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:47.079 Yeah. And it's really sad though, you know, because so 1123 00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:50.639 many people are so propagandaized and they're so polarized right now, 1124 00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:55.360 you know. You you know, let's just take a polarizing 1125 00:57:55.480 --> 00:57:59.119 subject like a like abortion right, and you know, the 1126 00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:02.280 the left is like very like venomous, Like the Christians 1127 00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:05.320 are pretty annoying about it, you know, preaching to like 1128 00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:08.800 abortion clinics and stuff. Yeah. I get that's annoying, you know, 1129 00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:10.960 because most people don't want to have to go through 1130 00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:13.239 a procedure like that, So to have someone like yelling 1131 00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:15.199 out a megaphone, right, it's. 1132 00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:16.079 Kind of a dick move exactly. 1133 00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:20.079 But uh, but you know, just because because these people 1134 00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:23.239 are so like aggressive and venomous where they think you're 1135 00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:25.800 like the most evil thing if you if you're pro life. 1136 00:58:26.239 --> 00:58:28.159 But if you really break it down logically, like just 1137 00:58:28.159 --> 00:58:31.440 because someone thinks it's wrong to kill an unborn child, 1138 00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:33.920 it doesn't necessarily doesn't make them a bad person. It 1139 00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:36.480 kind of makes them a good person. You know. It's 1140 00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:39.599 a same with like vegans. You know, like vegans think 1141 00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:41.679 it's wrong to kill an animal and for an animal 1142 00:58:41.679 --> 00:58:45.440 to suffer when when you have other options. You know, like, yeah, 1143 00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:48.239 a lot of vegans are pretty annoying, but you know, 1144 00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:50.679 you're not a bad person for having that belief. It's 1145 00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:53.440 just a different belief than you have, right, you know. 1146 00:58:53.639 --> 00:58:56.519 Ultimately, you know, people really don't like being told what 1147 00:58:56.679 --> 00:58:59.320 to do, you know. And I think when when someone's 1148 00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:01.079 telling you will that that's wrong or this is the 1149 00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:03.320 way you should do it, it's coming from a well 1150 00:59:03.360 --> 00:59:05.760 I have all the answers you know, and you don't, 1151 00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:08.199 and and you know, maybe one day you'll figure it out, 1152 00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:10.400 and it's like, you know what I mean that that's 1153 00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:13.480 I think what gets people really upset, you know, this 1154 00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:17.079 this hierarchy of intellect or or you know what I mean, 1155 00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:18.480 I have the answers well. 1156 00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:22.840 It's the it's the polarization that ultimately creates the trigger 1157 00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:26.800 in the first place, you know, because some people are 1158 00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:31.000 just gonna be like I associate with everything that this 1159 00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:34.119 side thinks. And it's like that's not right either, Like 1160 00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:37.480 that's not logical at all, you know, like and and so, 1161 00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:39.800 and that's not even just political or anything like that, 1162 00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:45.480 but just in order, like it's important to always be 1163 00:59:45.599 --> 00:59:48.719 aware and put a substantial amount of thought into something 1164 00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:53.559 whenever you're speaking on polar polarizing topics like that, and 1165 00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:56.639 just try and you know, become empathetic and sympathetic and 1166 00:59:56.639 --> 00:59:58.599 try and put yourself in somebody else's shoes so that 1167 00:59:58.639 --> 01:00:01.079 you can try and understand. And yeah, I don't think that. 1168 01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:04.760 I think it's it's just such a dangerous move to 1169 01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:08.599 group a large sum of people into they're all evil, 1170 01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:13.199 Like that's that rate. There is how religious wars have 1171 01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:16.000 started in the first place, you know, because they're always 1172 01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:19.400 seen as less than human and that's not good. You know, 1173 01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:23.000 nobody's nobody's parading that. It's like, you know, so it's 1174 01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:26.360 it's it's you know, if you have awareness, you know, 1175 01:00:26.480 --> 01:00:28.519 you don't really have that problem. So yeah, it's it's 1176 01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:31.159 very important to meditate and to be honest, dude. Like 1177 01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:33.320 I feel like other people have probably said this too, 1178 01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:35.719 But god damn, if we can just get all of 1179 01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:39.400 the world's leaders together on like some kind of ayahuasca journey, 1180 01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:42.880 I mean, world peace overnight, dude. 1181 01:00:43.360 --> 01:00:45.360 Yeah, you know, I think people need to start learning 1182 01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:48.960 philosophy and debate and understanding like logical fallacies. You know, 1183 01:00:49.639 --> 01:00:52.559 Like think about how much stuff that we have shoved 1184 01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:55.079 on our throat, you know, in the last like ten years, 1185 01:00:55.800 --> 01:01:00.519 you know, and especially from like the neo left, you know, 1186 01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:06.239 and you know, how much of that stuff can you 1187 01:01:06.679 --> 01:01:11.079 argue without using any logical fallacy? You know, some of 1188 01:01:11.079 --> 01:01:12.880 the stuff that we're having shoved on our throat, there's 1189 01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:15.320 no way you could make any argument unless it was 1190 01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:17.840 a logical fallacy. It would have to be like appeal 1191 01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:21.000 to emotion straw man, you know, non sequitor. 1192 01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:23.920 Well, I think that that's all part of the word 1193 01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:25.079 magic in general. 1194 01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:27.840 Yeah, but I think people need to start learning about 1195 01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:31.239 just logical fallacies and just start having like open discussion 1196 01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:31.960 about it, you know. 1197 01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:34.599 So right, But. 1198 01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:36.880 The problem is, like people are having these ideas and 1199 01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:40.239 it's propaganda, you know, shape their entire consciousness. So they're 1200 01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:43.159 already putting up all these walls around it. So any 1201 01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:46.480 chip in that wall, you know, is is dangerous to 1202 01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:47.760 the ego, you know. 1203 01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:48.800 Yeah. 1204 01:01:48.840 --> 01:01:52.199 Well, and to be honest, I kind of like, I 1205 01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:55.639 just love kind of just going against the grain and 1206 01:01:56.199 --> 01:02:00.519 whatever somebody deems like evil or or whatever, even though 1207 01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:04.320 it's not even etymologically true. I need to, like, I 1208 01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:06.440 need to know where did it all start? How did 1209 01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:08.719 it evolve to this? And that was another one of 1210 01:02:08.760 --> 01:02:11.320 the episodes that we did whenever we talked about the genius, 1211 01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:15.800 the genie, and the gin, and because people would just 1212 01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:19.679 instantly assume that, well, a genie and a gin they 1213 01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:23.079 absolutely are horrible things and you shouldn't be working with them. 1214 01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:26.360 Or sometimes they're good, sometimes they're bad, so just stay 1215 01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:29.000 on the safe side and don't touch them. Whereas if 1216 01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:32.679 you go back to its etymological roots to the genius, essentially, 1217 01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:35.719 these emperors were looking at it as what we would 1218 01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:39.599 call it, their higher selves, and they would like certain 1219 01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:44.320 emperor's genius would literally be worshiped like in small like 1220 01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:48.719 sector cults. And then of course religion came around and 1221 01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:51.119 they kind of just grouped it all together into one thing. 1222 01:02:51.239 --> 01:02:54.519 But I find it very interesting about how they have 1223 01:02:54.840 --> 01:02:57.360 and that's not even just what the genius and the 1224 01:02:57.400 --> 01:03:00.480 genie and the gin. It really goes back to even 1225 01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:05.159 working with the the damons and how its etymological roots 1226 01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:09.559 started with the damon and how it eventually evolved through 1227 01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:17.880 essentially religious bastardization and evolving it into a demon. Now 1228 01:03:18.119 --> 01:03:21.880 I know that that's just the the English conversion of 1229 01:03:21.960 --> 01:03:24.320 the word. And you know, they they had a whole 1230 01:03:24.440 --> 01:03:28.360 nother word for evil spirits hebrewically, if that's a word, 1231 01:03:29.320 --> 01:03:32.400 but eventually they ended up turning it into the term demon. 1232 01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:34.960 And the reason why they did that was because they 1233 01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:39.199 wanted people to stop worshiping their damon, you know, and 1234 01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:44.400 or stop working essentially, yeah, they're guiding spirit, you know. 1235 01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:47.679 Aleister Crowley called it his holy Guardian Angel, which was 1236 01:03:47.719 --> 01:03:50.840 his damon. And I mean, think what you want about Crowley, 1237 01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:53.719 and that's beside the point. But just to see how 1238 01:03:54.159 --> 01:03:57.400 others have looked at those terms and how they've like 1239 01:03:57.519 --> 01:04:01.599 evolved over time, that's it. Like, it's very clear that 1240 01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:05.400 they have been trying to do their own version of 1241 01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:08.800 word magic and manipulate almost the past in a sense 1242 01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:11.800 because most of the religions out there, they have nothing 1243 01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:14.679 but bad things to say about paganism. But then you 1244 01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:16.920 start looking into paganism, you're like, oh, wait, they were 1245 01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:20.360 working with the nature, you know, like what they were doing, 1246 01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:23.519 simple spells, they were leaving out offerings, like what's wrong 1247 01:04:23.559 --> 01:04:23.840 with that? 1248 01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:28.519 It's all the same stuff, really, you know. And you know, 1249 01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:32.199 even like you know, the magic and occult circles. You know, 1250 01:04:32.199 --> 01:04:34.159 they always talk about how the Christians ripped off the 1251 01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:37.360 Pagans and the Christians ripped off these pagan holidays and stuff, 1252 01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:39.599 and I don't think so. I just think it's all 1253 01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:42.840 based off the same thing. It's all based on the skyclock, yep, 1254 01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:45.599 you know, it's all based on astrology and stuff. So 1255 01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:49.719 you know, so you know, I don't think they're ripping 1256 01:04:49.719 --> 01:04:52.320 each other off, like I don't think, you know, like 1257 01:04:52.519 --> 01:04:57.159 the Indians in New Mexico ripped off the Vikings, you know, 1258 01:04:57.480 --> 01:05:00.280 or the Slavics, you know, but they all have more 1259 01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:03.639 or less the same style of spirituality, the pantheon, same 1260 01:05:03.719 --> 01:05:04.840 creation myth. 1261 01:05:05.159 --> 01:05:08.719 You know, just different interpretations of the skyclock. 1262 01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:09.400 Right. 1263 01:05:09.480 --> 01:05:09.679 Yeah. 1264 01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:13.599 They basically took some older information, evolved it and made 1265 01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:17.880 it theirs and then said this is the beginning, you know, 1266 01:05:18.159 --> 01:05:21.320 like this is the way you know, Like meanwhile, I 1267 01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:24.159 was just like a crash bandicoot checkpoint, you know, it 1268 01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:25.079 was never the beginning. 1269 01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:30.280 Yeah, so you know, it's it's just one of those things, 1270 01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:32.679 you know, Like, you know, I think it's all based 1271 01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:34.719 on the same stuff. I think it's all the same thing. 1272 01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:39.800 The problem with the Abrahamic religions though, is it's because 1273 01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:43.800 it's it's framed in like this historical you know, as 1274 01:05:43.800 --> 01:05:47.840 a historical frameworks that people take it literally, you know, 1275 01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:49.920 even though you can find a lot of the same 1276 01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:54.039 stories or aspects of the same stories, yeah, in previous myths. 1277 01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:55.920 And like I said, it's not like they're ripping each 1278 01:05:55.960 --> 01:05:58.119 other off. It's just based on the same principles. 1279 01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:01.280 And I think that's the the biggest argument when it 1280 01:06:01.320 --> 01:06:04.880 comes to like, well, why is Christianity the the one 1281 01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:07.159 true religion? And I think that's where they go is 1282 01:06:07.199 --> 01:06:10.880 the this is the historical fact about it, and and 1283 01:06:11.159 --> 01:06:14.800 geography and different buildings and stuff like that structures and 1284 01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:17.440 they can look back and match it up and see 1285 01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:19.679 like oh yeah, see it's real. You know, this is 1286 01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:20.239 what happened. 1287 01:06:20.840 --> 01:06:24.000 So yeah, yeah, it's pretty interesting. I want to get 1288 01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:25.920 over the chat here as a couple of people leaving 1289 01:06:26.039 --> 01:06:30.000 some some notedge over here. Yeah, super market said, no 1290 01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:32.800 such thing as a dark side, just something standing in 1291 01:06:32.840 --> 01:06:34.159 the light making a shadow. 1292 01:06:35.159 --> 01:06:40.559 Yeah. Yeah, And you know when you uh, when you 1293 01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:44.679 you know, I'm a creationist and I have an ether framework. 1294 01:06:44.719 --> 01:06:47.440 You know, I don't believe in particle physics. I believe 1295 01:06:47.480 --> 01:06:52.599 in uh ether field theory and uh so when you 1296 01:06:52.599 --> 01:06:54.960 look at the way what light is, so light is 1297 01:06:55.000 --> 01:06:59.480 basically a disturbance in the ether. So so basically the 1298 01:06:59.599 --> 01:07:03.880 light is already there, you know, we're already surrounded by light. 1299 01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:07.559 But what we call visible light is that perturbation of 1300 01:07:07.599 --> 01:07:09.920 the ether. So it is the exact same thing, is 1301 01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:11.639 just one of disturbance in the ether. 1302 01:07:12.159 --> 01:07:14.760 That could be the excitation of it, right. 1303 01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:15.440 Yeah. 1304 01:07:16.039 --> 01:07:19.239 No, that's interesting too because there's there was this video 1305 01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:22.000 that I saw literally earlier today, and I don't know 1306 01:07:22.079 --> 01:07:25.239 if they were quantum physicists or whatever, but it was 1307 01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:31.760 basically talking about the myth that light travels and I thought, 1308 01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:35.239 holy shit, that is crazy because we've always been told 1309 01:07:35.280 --> 01:07:37.559 that you know, it's traveling at light speed or it's 1310 01:07:37.599 --> 01:07:40.719 thirty thousand light years away, you know, if it's traveling, 1311 01:07:40.800 --> 01:07:43.440 you know, via light. And you know the example that 1312 01:07:43.480 --> 01:07:46.519 the gentleman made. He goes, look it, I believe that 1313 01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:49.800 it had they've they've proven it, at least according to him, 1314 01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:53.400 that that light doesn't travel. And he goes, well, if 1315 01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:57.360 light's not traveling, then what's the medium that allows this 1316 01:07:57.480 --> 01:07:59.760 to happen? He started going into the ether and stuff 1317 01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:01.400 like that, right, And he goes and he made an 1318 01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:04.119 example of you know, think about whenever you're at like 1319 01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:06.599 a football game or a baseball game or something like that, 1320 01:08:06.960 --> 01:08:10.559 and the whole crowd in the everybody in the stadium 1321 01:08:10.639 --> 01:08:14.639 is doing the wave. And he goes, Now, whenever you're 1322 01:08:15.639 --> 01:08:18.800 you as the individual that is participating in the wave, 1323 01:08:19.119 --> 01:08:21.520 you know, whenever that wave starts to come around, all 1324 01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:24.399 you do is stand up, raise your hands, and then 1325 01:08:24.439 --> 01:08:27.439 sit back down. You didn't travel with the wave. You 1326 01:08:27.479 --> 01:08:31.399 were just kind of accentuated during that wave. And so 1327 01:08:31.560 --> 01:08:35.159 that's kind of the example that he was giving as 1328 01:08:35.159 --> 01:08:37.680 far as like light doesn't travel, it's almost just like 1329 01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:42.000 being exposed or accentuated or excited at that excited. 1330 01:08:42.279 --> 01:08:44.319 Yeah, it's a rate of induction, Yes. 1331 01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:47.079 Yeah, so interesting to think about it like that, and 1332 01:08:47.239 --> 01:08:49.399 I dude, it has to I mean it would have 1333 01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:52.159 to be the ether. What's the other medium? 1334 01:08:52.439 --> 01:08:53.640 Yeah, well look at that way. 1335 01:08:55.000 --> 01:08:58.199 They call it different things now, you know, like in 1336 01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:02.159 the metaphasic community and alter the community, you know, Oregon scaler, 1337 01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:07.359 you know, you look at quantum field, Higgs boson and 1338 01:09:07.399 --> 01:09:09.640 stuff like that, and then they have like all this 1339 01:09:09.840 --> 01:09:14.439 light just complete retarded ideas of like virtual photons, virtual 1340 01:09:14.479 --> 01:09:17.199 particles because none of it actually makes sense, you know. 1341 01:09:17.279 --> 01:09:22.600 So they they know that there's a field there, you know, 1342 01:09:22.760 --> 01:09:27.640 but because of Einstein, because of the ramifications of the ether, 1343 01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:30.560 they just won't allow it because then they have to 1344 01:09:30.600 --> 01:09:34.279 go back and question the very beginning of the history 1345 01:09:34.279 --> 01:09:35.680 of all that why they had to take it out 1346 01:09:35.680 --> 01:09:36.960 of physics. 1347 01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:39.199 Which is actually pretty interesting too if you think about 1348 01:09:39.239 --> 01:09:43.680 like just implementing that into shadow work, for example, because 1349 01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:46.720 if if you're worried about, you know, not dealing with 1350 01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:49.199 things of your past or things that you're you know, 1351 01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:52.720 self conscious about or whatever, and you're not dealing with 1352 01:09:52.760 --> 01:09:56.680 that shadow work, the light always exists, right, you just 1353 01:09:56.880 --> 01:10:00.239 need to shine the light there or excite the light 1354 01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:02.760 that is already there. That is being hidden, right, so 1355 01:10:02.920 --> 01:10:05.920 there is technically there's nothing that's not in the light. 1356 01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:09.199 At that point, you could almost look at a Lucifer, 1357 01:10:09.520 --> 01:10:13.359 you know, as a magical archetype. Being the light bringer, 1358 01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:16.319 is being the disturbance in that ether. 1359 01:10:17.399 --> 01:10:21.479 You know, Oh shit, we're the disturbance of the darkness. 1360 01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:26.199 Yeah, and and and and there is a disturbance that 1361 01:10:26.279 --> 01:10:28.600 happens when you work with some of the you know, 1362 01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:31.560 the demons and Lucifer and Satan, that you are kind 1363 01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:34.439 of kicking up all this stuff that's kind of buried. 1364 01:10:35.119 --> 01:10:37.119 That's why I think it's important for people to start 1365 01:10:37.159 --> 01:10:40.279 off with like angels or have a spiritual practice before 1366 01:10:40.319 --> 01:10:41.880 they're just jumping the demon. It's not that big of 1367 01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:46.640 a deal. But the the more issues you have and 1368 01:10:47.039 --> 01:10:49.960 unresolved trauma, you know, all that stuff's gonna come up 1369 01:10:49.960 --> 01:10:53.399 pretty quick. So you know, some people can handle that, 1370 01:10:53.479 --> 01:10:54.239 some people can't. 1371 01:10:54.640 --> 01:10:57.600 So from that metaphysical standpoint though, and you know, you 1372 01:10:57.720 --> 01:11:01.680 bringing up Lucifer being the light bringer and basically the disturber, 1373 01:11:02.119 --> 01:11:06.279 I mean, why is it then that a demon or 1374 01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:09.560 somebody who may be notable of the dark side would 1375 01:11:09.560 --> 01:11:13.319 be able to shine the light faster than an angel metaphysically. 1376 01:11:12.720 --> 01:11:17.319 Speaking, because you can look at them as being archetypes 1377 01:11:17.399 --> 01:11:18.680 of the dark sub conscious. 1378 01:11:20.479 --> 01:11:24.239 You know that makes sense, Yeah, of the material world. 1379 01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:26.079 Of the material world too, right. 1380 01:11:26.600 --> 01:11:29.279 Yeah, And they're the closest to the yeah, because I 1381 01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:32.640 mean they That's another cool thing when you work with 1382 01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:36.399 demons is they have a stronger energy. You feel they 1383 01:11:36.399 --> 01:11:39.319 have a distinct energy too. They just seem a lot 1384 01:11:39.399 --> 01:11:43.119 closer to the physical realm than like angels do. 1385 01:11:43.920 --> 01:11:47.359 That puts a interesting spin on things whenever you look 1386 01:11:47.359 --> 01:11:50.239 at shit like that though, right, Because now it's like, yeah, 1387 01:11:50.359 --> 01:11:53.600 you let's just call them demons for the sake of conversation. 1388 01:11:54.039 --> 01:11:57.479 But if you're bringing let's just specifically call on Lucifer. 1389 01:11:57.800 --> 01:11:59.880 I mean, knock on Wood. I'm not really calling on you, Bud, 1390 01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:03.279 but because we always get everybody says that that's what 1391 01:12:03.359 --> 01:12:05.319 we're calling on. No, don't make a mistake, I'm not 1392 01:12:05.359 --> 01:12:08.600 saying that. But let's say hypothetically that you were doing 1393 01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:11.399 some kind of shadow work, or you were going super 1394 01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:14.119 deep in some kind of meditation to really start working 1395 01:12:14.119 --> 01:12:16.520 on yourself, or ask for some kind of material gain 1396 01:12:16.680 --> 01:12:21.239 or something like that. Then essentially the demons would be 1397 01:12:21.279 --> 01:12:23.479 the angels of the shadow realm. 1398 01:12:23.640 --> 01:12:25.359 That's yeah. So actually. 1399 01:12:26.520 --> 01:12:31.079 I have thought about that a lot, especially you know, 1400 01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:33.680 with the Abrahamic religions, how they're polarized and they're just 1401 01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:37.319 kind of split. You know. I have thought about that 1402 01:12:37.319 --> 01:12:40.199 that because you know, you have the seventy two angels 1403 01:12:40.600 --> 01:12:42.960 from the Goatia, then you have the seventy two demons 1404 01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:47.159 of the Goatia. And I was wondering if they were 1405 01:12:47.199 --> 01:12:50.920 almost the same entity, just down further to a more 1406 01:12:50.920 --> 01:12:53.840 dense manifestation. 1407 01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:56.600 In a different geological place that they just so happened 1408 01:12:56.640 --> 01:12:57.199 to take up. 1409 01:12:58.159 --> 01:13:01.920 Yeah, damn, I thought that a few times, you know. 1410 01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:03.840 But at the end of the day, who knows, you know, 1411 01:13:04.239 --> 01:13:05.239 at the end of the day, who knows what. 1412 01:13:05.239 --> 01:13:09.000 It's all about? What you accept though, isn't it? 1413 01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:12.199 It's hard to say? Uh, you know, if it works, 1414 01:13:12.199 --> 01:13:14.119 it works. First of all, that's number one proofs in 1415 01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:18.239 the pudding, you know, So you know, it's it's worth 1416 01:13:18.279 --> 01:13:20.600 experimenting with and asking them. 1417 01:13:21.039 --> 01:13:24.600 Yeah, all right, Oh you're gonna get me interested in 1418 01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:30.039 working with demons now. God, yeah, they just lost their 1419 01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:34.840 followers now, God, they're uh, you know, they're more interesting 1420 01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:37.279 than a lot of other spirits. 1421 01:13:37.319 --> 01:13:38.960 But you know, you don't have to work with demons. 1422 01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:41.840 But I mean, they they work so fast. You know, 1423 01:13:42.039 --> 01:13:45.520 they have a unique energy. You feel it right away. 1424 01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:49.039 It's more profound of an experience, and they work really fast. 1425 01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:51.520 But you know, you should you should be a grounded 1426 01:13:51.560 --> 01:13:54.319 person first. I think, work out some of your issues 1427 01:13:54.359 --> 01:13:59.119 from your childhood traumas. But I mean everyone's different though, you. 1428 01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:02.000 Know, I'm just saying of the sake of science, you know. 1429 01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:05.359 Yeah, well, yeah, I think from a pragmatic standpoint, I 1430 01:14:05.399 --> 01:14:07.000 think demons are pretty much the best to work with. 1431 01:14:07.760 --> 01:14:11.119 Now, does a demon always want some kind of offering 1432 01:14:11.199 --> 01:14:14.000 or sacrifice in order to work with you? Is that 1433 01:14:14.079 --> 01:14:15.720 every single demon across the board? 1434 01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:19.479 No, No, I don't think so. But I think it's 1435 01:14:19.479 --> 01:14:20.520 a good practice to have. 1436 01:14:21.880 --> 01:14:23.920 I mean, I'm okay with offering up you know, you 1437 01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:26.960 want to so. 1438 01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:28.680 A lot of it is just energy, you know, Like 1439 01:14:29.399 --> 01:14:31.760 you know, it's not like the let's say you pour 1440 01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:34.199 a libation of like coffee into the ground, right, The 1441 01:14:34.279 --> 01:14:36.760 spirit isn't drinking the coffee. It is the energy of it, 1442 01:14:37.439 --> 01:14:44.279 you know. So you know the act of evocation, you know, 1443 01:14:44.359 --> 01:14:50.279 you're you're you're condensing the energy into a single source, 1444 01:14:50.359 --> 01:14:53.079 and you're basically given that spirit a body, you know, 1445 01:14:53.119 --> 01:14:57.279 with your own willpower. I mean, you could almost look 1446 01:14:57.319 --> 01:14:59.880 at that as an offering because because you're you're giving 1447 01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:03.479 a lot of energy just evoking it. You know, I 1448 01:15:03.520 --> 01:15:06.399 still make offerings a big part of my practice. But 1449 01:15:06.960 --> 01:15:09.800 you know, with radionics, though, you can do the energetic 1450 01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:12.720 blood sacrifice, and that works pretty good for an offering. 1451 01:15:13.479 --> 01:15:16.279 Yeah, but you're using just like the the diabetic pricker too, 1452 01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:16.760 aren't you. 1453 01:15:17.239 --> 01:15:21.640 Oh for blood? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I just 1454 01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:24.399 use a little lancet. Doesn't leave any scars asn't you know, 1455 01:15:24.520 --> 01:15:26.920 callous or anything like that. Well, he needs a couple 1456 01:15:26.880 --> 01:15:30.560 of drops, you know. But uh, you know, if we 1457 01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:34.079 if we get some property when we move out, if 1458 01:15:34.159 --> 01:15:35.760 we move out of Utah, you know, I wouldn't mind 1459 01:15:35.760 --> 01:15:38.199 staying here. You know. My woman hates it here though 1460 01:15:38.239 --> 01:15:40.880 she hates the people, She hates the desert, and I 1461 01:15:40.920 --> 01:15:42.560 love it. Man. I'm getting a tan. That's why i've 1462 01:15:42.600 --> 01:15:44.439 been itching. If you see me like kind of reaching down, 1463 01:15:44.439 --> 01:15:46.880 I'm like scratching because I had a pretty nearly sunburn 1464 01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:49.720 and it's peeling now. Nice because uh, because you know, 1465 01:15:50.199 --> 01:15:52.640 coming from the Pacific Northwest. I've never had a tan 1466 01:15:52.720 --> 01:15:54.800 in my life, so now that I live in the desert, 1467 01:15:54.800 --> 01:15:56.640 you know, I really want to get that like old 1468 01:15:56.680 --> 01:15:59.800 school pro wrestler Hulk Hogan, skin of a hot dog look. 1469 01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:06.039 So so super Market said, it reminds me of the 1470 01:16:06.079 --> 01:16:10.159 star card in Tarot. She's pouring water on the ground 1471 01:16:10.239 --> 01:16:13.159 and in the water the light and the dark, the 1472 01:16:13.239 --> 01:16:14.960 light and the dark at the same time. 1473 01:16:15.640 --> 01:16:20.119 Like acknowledging both, Yeah, because essentially they're both there, you know. 1474 01:16:20.159 --> 01:16:24.000 And I think we all have that aspect of ourselves 1475 01:16:24.079 --> 01:16:27.319 as well, you know, and when you're you know, someone 1476 01:16:27.439 --> 01:16:29.600 is fucking with you, and that little bit of the 1477 01:16:29.680 --> 01:16:31.600 darkness comes up because you just want to like kick 1478 01:16:31.640 --> 01:16:33.319 some ass or you know what I mean, or say 1479 01:16:33.319 --> 01:16:36.199 something mean to something. That's all in us. It's not 1480 01:16:36.279 --> 01:16:36.800 like I step. 1481 01:16:36.840 --> 01:16:39.880 Everything, every one of us, you know. And you know, 1482 01:16:40.920 --> 01:16:44.239 sometimes good people do bad things, sometimes bad people do 1483 01:16:44.319 --> 01:16:48.359 good things. You know, Like you know, I mean you 1484 01:16:48.359 --> 01:16:52.119 were you guys remember high school? Uh did you know? 1485 01:16:52.239 --> 01:16:55.000 Like there were kids I saw in high school that 1486 01:16:55.039 --> 01:16:58.520 were like huge douchebags, and uh, you know, you run 1487 01:16:58.520 --> 01:17:01.199 into them like ten years later at like a bar, 1488 01:17:01.319 --> 01:17:05.199 at a party, or something, and they're like super nice, 1489 01:17:05.239 --> 01:17:08.600 super chill, like awesome people because you know, they're not 1490 01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:11.560 you know, a fifteen year old little punk kid anymore. 1491 01:17:11.760 --> 01:17:12.880 Yeah, yeah, you know. 1492 01:17:13.239 --> 01:17:17.039 So I'm still curious too, though about why the demons 1493 01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:20.199 work faster. That's one thing that because usually I can like, okay, 1494 01:17:20.279 --> 01:17:22.199 that kind of makes sense, but I really just don't 1495 01:17:22.279 --> 01:17:24.920 understand why that is. You know, is that across the 1496 01:17:24.960 --> 01:17:27.199 board with a lot of the people that you've spoken to, 1497 01:17:27.399 --> 01:17:28.720 or is is that. 1498 01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:30.800 Just I mean, is it possible that it could just 1499 01:17:30.840 --> 01:17:33.119 be a psychological thing that you know that the demons 1500 01:17:33.119 --> 01:17:36.239 are a little bit more promiscuous and you're not necessarily 1501 01:17:36.279 --> 01:17:38.960 asking for permission if it's good or evil? Like, could 1502 01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:39.680 it be that too? 1503 01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:45.119 Yeah, there was some of that. You know, angels work 1504 01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:48.399 really slow, they're pretty safe, they're really healing. That's the 1505 01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:51.359 one thing I think angels excel at the most. Just 1506 01:17:51.439 --> 01:17:53.920 being in their presence will make you like, if you 1507 01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:56.920 work with nothing but angels for like six months, it 1508 01:17:56.920 --> 01:17:59.600 doesn't even take the long like four to six months, 1509 01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:03.640 maybe seven eight months, You're gonna look younger and healthier 1510 01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:06.319 and have a brighter glow and will probably even get 1511 01:18:06.399 --> 01:18:09.239 hit on more, you know, but you're gonna look younger 1512 01:18:09.279 --> 01:18:12.239 and healthier with a brighter glow working with angels than 1513 01:18:12.239 --> 01:18:13.520 you would with demons, you know. 1514 01:18:13.640 --> 01:18:14.680 So uh huh. 1515 01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:16.800 But you know, if you're cleaning your aura and you're 1516 01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:19.600 doing energy work and all of that, you know, you're 1517 01:18:19.640 --> 01:18:21.439 not gonna it's not like demons are gonna make you 1518 01:18:21.479 --> 01:18:25.079 look ugly, you know. But but I definitely, I definitely 1519 01:18:25.359 --> 01:18:29.479 think angels you're gonna look better. You know, you'll basically 1520 01:18:29.520 --> 01:18:32.680 look more attractive if you work with a lot of angels. 1521 01:18:32.399 --> 01:18:37.279 More luminous, right, interesting, Kara said, I feel like it 1522 01:18:37.399 --> 01:18:40.560 helped me back thinking I had to have everything perfect 1523 01:18:40.680 --> 01:18:43.720 if I truly started practicing. But magic really is about 1524 01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:45.880 being playful and learning from your intuition. 1525 01:18:47.199 --> 01:18:50.159 Yeah, and that's a good point too. It's you know, 1526 01:18:50.520 --> 01:18:53.760 so when I first started taking magic like super serious, 1527 01:18:54.039 --> 01:18:57.560 I was doing a lot of the planetary magic and everything, 1528 01:18:57.720 --> 01:19:00.399 the whole thing of like everything needing to be pro perfect, 1529 01:19:00.479 --> 01:19:03.279 you know, because because you have a specific day an 1530 01:19:03.319 --> 01:19:04.960 hour that you get to do everything, Let's say you 1531 01:19:04.960 --> 01:19:09.000 get off work a little late, or let's say you know, you, uh, 1532 01:19:09.680 --> 01:19:11.319 you got homes late at night and you just fall 1533 01:19:11.359 --> 01:19:13.760 asleep and you don't do your evocation, it screws up 1534 01:19:13.760 --> 01:19:18.159 your whole pathworking, you know. So, uh, I kind of 1535 01:19:18.159 --> 01:19:20.680 stopped caring about that stuff a lot after a while, 1536 01:19:20.680 --> 01:19:24.800 because you just started hindering my my work, you know, 1537 01:19:24.920 --> 01:19:28.279 so worrying about everything being perfect, especially with like spells 1538 01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:30.600 and stuff too. There's a lot of people that they 1539 01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:33.800 don't have this one item, you know, so you just 1540 01:19:33.800 --> 01:19:35.119 got to work around it. I think I think the 1541 01:19:35.359 --> 01:19:36.760 important thing is just doing it, you know. 1542 01:19:37.239 --> 01:19:39.119 So, yeah, that sounds bad. 1543 01:19:39.279 --> 01:19:41.279 But I agree with that, especially the whole playful thing. 1544 01:19:41.399 --> 01:19:43.720 I think that's a powerful manifesting tool. 1545 01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:47.279 Just being playful right, which goes along with you know, 1546 01:19:47.399 --> 01:19:49.079 if you feel like you're not doing it right or 1547 01:19:49.079 --> 01:19:52.079 you're putting too much too much on it, you know, 1548 01:19:52.399 --> 01:19:54.720 like you're putting too much effort into and now you're 1549 01:19:54.720 --> 01:19:56.800 not really having fun with it. Now you're just it's 1550 01:19:56.800 --> 01:19:57.960 too stringent, you know. 1551 01:19:58.079 --> 01:20:01.039 Yeah, well, you know that depends on your life circumstance, 1552 01:20:01.079 --> 01:20:04.800 because something some uh, some things come up and it's 1553 01:20:04.840 --> 01:20:07.800 hard to uh, you're so emotionally invested in it, it's 1554 01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:10.560 hard to you know, it's hard to put that aside. 1555 01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:12.920 You know, and in that case, just don't go through 1556 01:20:12.920 --> 01:20:14.840 with the right or or whatever you. 1557 01:20:14.720 --> 01:20:19.000 Or you can hire someone else, you know. So yeah, 1558 01:20:19.079 --> 01:20:22.199 so it's also that you know, like, because if I'm 1559 01:20:22.239 --> 01:20:24.439 not emotionally attached to it, it'll be easy for me, 1560 01:20:24.680 --> 01:20:28.479 you know, JS. You know, yeah, it's no problem for him. 1561 01:20:28.680 --> 01:20:31.479 You know, he's going to sacrifice the chicken anyway, you know, 1562 01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:35.760 as well do it for you put on the schedule. Yeah, totally, 1563 01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:36.760 no more quails. 1564 01:20:36.800 --> 01:20:40.079 He learned that lesson the hard way. 1565 01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:45.159 He said, his veins turned cold. Dude, That's that's terrifying, dude. 1566 01:20:45.199 --> 01:20:47.840 Magic. Magic is a trip. The way it manifests sometimes, 1567 01:20:47.880 --> 01:20:51.279 the way it'll change your physical appearance is a trip. 1568 01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:51.760 You know. 1569 01:20:51.800 --> 01:20:53.840 That's like one of the main things. You know, if 1570 01:20:53.840 --> 01:20:57.439 you like, if you work with like, uh, really masculine gods, 1571 01:20:57.439 --> 01:20:59.800 you'll probably start taking on some masculine features. If you 1572 01:20:59.800 --> 01:21:03.039 work with like really feminine like goddesses, you're probably gonna 1573 01:21:03.039 --> 01:21:05.399 start taking on some of those. A lot of people 1574 01:21:05.439 --> 01:21:10.279 that work with especially the death current, not just necessarily 1575 01:21:10.319 --> 01:21:15.359 something dead people, but really work with the death current necromancy, 1576 01:21:15.520 --> 01:21:18.600 a lot of those people start, you know, they start 1577 01:21:18.880 --> 01:21:22.760 looking dead, they start looking like crap. You know, they 1578 01:21:22.760 --> 01:21:24.560 start getting all pale and blotchy. 1579 01:21:25.239 --> 01:21:27.479 You're you're literally embodying it. 1580 01:21:28.199 --> 01:21:31.119 Yeah. But but but there's people that that work that 1581 01:21:31.119 --> 01:21:33.720 that don't have the same side effects. So you know, 1582 01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:38.199 there's a way around it. You know, I've never gone 1583 01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:40.000 really hard on the whole death current thing. 1584 01:21:40.439 --> 01:21:43.520 Well it's that actually makes sense. You know, electro Nick 1585 01:21:43.600 --> 01:21:45.399 working with the Pleaadians, and I don't know if you've 1586 01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:47.319 ever seen a picture of them, but they're always usually 1587 01:21:47.399 --> 01:21:49.319 beautiful and so of course. 1588 01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:53.079 Embodied embodied. 1589 01:21:55.119 --> 01:21:58.920 So but yeah, super Mark, you said make higher self decisions. 1590 01:21:59.439 --> 01:22:03.520 Yeah, totally on. And that's hard for some people because 1591 01:22:03.560 --> 01:22:05.600 some people are just so dense and in their ways. 1592 01:22:05.640 --> 01:22:08.239 I mean, how many people are even conscious of the 1593 01:22:08.279 --> 01:22:09.119 decisions they make? 1594 01:22:10.560 --> 01:22:14.439 Well reactive right, not like biblical or anything, which I 1595 01:22:14.520 --> 01:22:16.720 think that there's like a lot of you know, one 1596 01:22:16.800 --> 01:22:19.920 line bangers in the Bible for sure, But you know, 1597 01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:22.039 to be in this world but not of this world? 1598 01:22:22.279 --> 01:22:25.119 I mean is that not it like saying to go 1599 01:22:25.199 --> 01:22:27.560 with your higher self essentially in so many words. 1600 01:22:28.039 --> 01:22:30.880 Yeah, And I mean this place is pretty distracting. You know, 1601 01:22:30.920 --> 01:22:35.399 you come here, you know, stuff starts happening. Life happens, 1602 01:22:35.439 --> 01:22:37.960 and you just kind of, you know, forget about your 1603 01:22:37.960 --> 01:22:40.159 whole mission, which your mind is wiped as soon as 1604 01:22:40.159 --> 01:22:41.600 you get here anyway, so you don't, you see, forget 1605 01:22:41.640 --> 01:22:43.880 what your mission is right from the get go. But 1606 01:22:44.520 --> 01:22:46.479 you know, then life happens. You know, you go through 1607 01:22:46.479 --> 01:22:49.000 a breakup, maybe someone gets strung out on drugs. I 1608 01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:49.359 don't know. 1609 01:22:50.239 --> 01:22:52.399 You know, it's funny, it's interesting how that works out. 1610 01:22:52.439 --> 01:22:55.600 You know, we're we have information around us, like so 1611 01:22:55.720 --> 01:22:58.600 much more so than ever, but yet we also have 1612 01:22:58.720 --> 01:23:00.000 more of the distraction as well. 1613 01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:04.880 You know. It's oh yeah, and everything's so oversaturated. Now 1614 01:23:04.960 --> 01:23:07.640 that's a that's a real problem in the age of information, 1615 01:23:07.800 --> 01:23:10.520 you know, like too much. Like like TikTok is just 1616 01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:14.880 like a billion hours of nothing, you know, you know, 1617 01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:16.920 apparently there's some good stuff on there. I don't know, 1618 01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:18.439 but I hate TikTok. 1619 01:23:18.520 --> 01:23:21.119 Heude. I love it personally, It's one of my favorites. Dude, 1620 01:23:21.159 --> 01:23:23.079 I can I can stay going down a you know, 1621 01:23:23.239 --> 01:23:26.600 a rabbit hole over there as long as you like 1622 01:23:26.720 --> 01:23:29.000 type in the search bar what you're looking for, then 1623 01:23:29.039 --> 01:23:32.000 you prevent yourself from stumbling across information you don't really 1624 01:23:32.039 --> 01:23:36.359 care about. But yeah, Kara said, I would assume it's 1625 01:23:36.399 --> 01:23:39.560 got to be about respect. Darkness is not equal to evil, 1626 01:23:39.720 --> 01:23:42.399 contrary to what the world wants to put on it. 1627 01:23:43.039 --> 01:23:46.279 Oh yeah, that's something you know, I always talk about 1628 01:23:46.279 --> 01:23:49.399 when people bring up evil. You know, it's like can 1629 01:23:49.399 --> 01:23:52.319 you even define what evil is? You know, like are 1630 01:23:52.399 --> 01:23:55.880 wolves evil or lion's evil or alligators evil? You know, 1631 01:23:56.079 --> 01:23:59.119 this is just like everything's a part of creation, you know, 1632 01:23:59.199 --> 01:24:02.520 it's a it's a an ecosystem. 1633 01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:05.680 Yeah, And I think they use that term dark you know, 1634 01:24:05.760 --> 01:24:07.880 every time they're just trying to explain something that they 1635 01:24:07.960 --> 01:24:11.039 don't fully understand. You know, as far as as far 1636 01:24:11.079 --> 01:24:14.119 as you know, the cosmos go, there's like the cosmic web, 1637 01:24:14.159 --> 01:24:19.239 and everything's kind of expanding in a manner that almost 1638 01:24:19.239 --> 01:24:22.600 as though there's something connected to everything, you know, And 1639 01:24:22.640 --> 01:24:25.720 they call that dark matter because they just they know 1640 01:24:25.920 --> 01:24:29.119 it's it's there, but they can't quite figure out what 1641 01:24:29.359 --> 01:24:32.239 it is or why it is. It's like a placeholder term, 1642 01:24:32.479 --> 01:24:35.760 so it's dark matter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't know. 1643 01:24:35.840 --> 01:24:39.159 Yeah, see that dark matter was another like ad hoc 1644 01:24:39.880 --> 01:24:42.199 thing that they just kind of threw out there because 1645 01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:45.800 you know, observation wasn't matching theory. So instead of going 1646 01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:50.640 back and maybe reinvestigating the theory, they just threw something 1647 01:24:50.640 --> 01:24:51.840 together that it makes sense. 1648 01:24:52.479 --> 01:24:54.600 And to be honest with you, I kind of think 1649 01:24:54.640 --> 01:24:57.479 that whatever that is, because they don't know what it is, 1650 01:24:57.560 --> 01:24:59.920 I think it ties into everything that we talk about here, 1651 01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:03.600 the metaphysics, and you know, it has something to do 1652 01:25:03.680 --> 01:25:06.399 with what makes everything possible. 1653 01:25:06.800 --> 01:25:08.439 I mean it could be the etheric grid. 1654 01:25:09.359 --> 01:25:11.560 Mm. Yeah, I mean I don't know. Yeah, I mean 1655 01:25:11.560 --> 01:25:14.640 it seems to connect everything together, and so I mean 1656 01:25:14.680 --> 01:25:17.840 we call ourselves the one you know, it's like that's that, 1657 01:25:18.600 --> 01:25:20.000 you know, But yeah, I don't know. 1658 01:25:20.159 --> 01:25:22.920 It's all like the Silver Court attachment or some shit. 1659 01:25:23.640 --> 01:25:23.840 Yeah. 1660 01:25:24.399 --> 01:25:26.960 Nick said, what's y'all's opinions on dejav vu? What is 1661 01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:28.199 your opinion on dejeu vu? 1662 01:25:28.239 --> 01:25:28.560 Byron? 1663 01:25:28.840 --> 01:25:32.039 Uh? Yeah, you know, when when I was a kid, 1664 01:25:32.560 --> 01:25:34.319 especially and it still happens now, but when I was 1665 01:25:34.359 --> 01:25:37.119 a kid, it was like every day but I would 1666 01:25:37.159 --> 01:25:40.359 like wake up and uh and dream what was going 1667 01:25:40.439 --> 01:25:42.840 to happen to me throughout the day, you know, and 1668 01:25:42.880 --> 01:25:44.680 there would always be like these key things that I 1669 01:25:44.680 --> 01:25:47.840 would always try to like change or change the outcome of, 1670 01:25:47.920 --> 01:25:52.239 and I never could uh so, So I don't know, man, 1671 01:25:52.319 --> 01:25:56.800 I've had profound experiences with it, and uh, it's it's 1672 01:25:57.159 --> 01:26:02.000 but that experience as a kid kind of I have 1673 01:26:02.079 --> 01:26:08.159 my doubts about free will, and I lean more towards destination. 1674 01:26:09.319 --> 01:26:13.920 Oh it's your destiny, destiny. Yeah, yeah, that's uh, that's 1675 01:26:13.920 --> 01:26:17.039 pretty inter I actually, I kind of I don't know, 1676 01:26:17.159 --> 01:26:20.760 just with how my mind operates, especially these days, I 1677 01:26:20.800 --> 01:26:25.079 almost look at deja vu in the same sense of synchronicities, 1678 01:26:25.640 --> 01:26:27.560 you know, like the how how we would look at 1679 01:26:27.600 --> 01:26:31.119 a synchronicity, like whatever your special number is or whatever 1680 01:26:31.359 --> 01:26:34.319 is special to you, and it always just so happens 1681 01:26:34.359 --> 01:26:36.720 to that you're able to catch it, whether it's you know, 1682 01:26:36.800 --> 01:26:39.920 one to eleven or eleven eleven or four forty four 1683 01:26:40.039 --> 01:26:42.479 like Nick or anything like that. It's always like just 1684 01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:47.159 almost like a reminder that this place is not as 1685 01:26:47.279 --> 01:26:50.640 grim and just only physical as as you once thought. 1686 01:26:50.680 --> 01:26:53.640 It's almost like a reminder that this is there's so 1687 01:26:53.760 --> 01:26:56.399 much more to this in a sense, and some people, 1688 01:26:56.520 --> 01:26:58.399 you know, just chalk that up to a coincidence, which 1689 01:26:58.439 --> 01:27:01.840 is really sad because it can be a special thing. 1690 01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:04.960 But you know, just going off of like what you know, 1691 01:27:05.039 --> 01:27:08.720 Bashar says, it's like it's all meaningless up until you 1692 01:27:08.800 --> 01:27:11.119 apply meaning to it. And I think that that's really 1693 01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:13.560 you know, and I could be wrong, maybe that's just 1694 01:27:13.560 --> 01:27:15.279 a woo woo way of looking at it, but I 1695 01:27:15.319 --> 01:27:18.199 think that it's it's all just subtle reminders that this 1696 01:27:18.319 --> 01:27:20.319 is a temporary thing, so don't get too caught up 1697 01:27:20.359 --> 01:27:20.560 in it. 1698 01:27:21.159 --> 01:27:24.159 Yeah. So me, like, I think dejevo is either like 1699 01:27:24.760 --> 01:27:28.680 remnants of our past life or has something more to 1700 01:27:28.720 --> 01:27:31.760 do with predestination, you know, like the events are just 1701 01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:34.119 playing out the way they're supposed to play out, you know. 1702 01:27:35.199 --> 01:27:37.239 Yeah, I go back and forth with that. As far 1703 01:27:37.279 --> 01:27:41.199 as the predestination thing. Yeah, dejah vou is one of 1704 01:27:41.199 --> 01:27:43.760 those things that it makes you it forces you to 1705 01:27:43.800 --> 01:27:45.840 think that way. You know, it's like this must have 1706 01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:48.000 happened already, and if so, then did I have a 1707 01:27:48.079 --> 01:27:50.600 choice upon arriving here. You know. 1708 01:27:50.760 --> 01:27:58.000 It's one of those like loaded like theosophical debates or 1709 01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:01.119 whatever like conversations you can. It's it's such a loaded 1710 01:28:01.159 --> 01:28:05.680 thing to debate about, you know, predestination or free will. Yeah, 1711 01:28:05.760 --> 01:28:08.640 you know, and I'd like to think that there's some 1712 01:28:08.720 --> 01:28:11.359 free will, like with enough hard work, and discipline. You know, 1713 01:28:11.399 --> 01:28:13.840 if you get really good at magic and psychic development, 1714 01:28:13.920 --> 01:28:18.479 you and you fortify your will power and have a 1715 01:28:18.479 --> 01:28:22.039 connection with your higher self and everything. Like I would 1716 01:28:22.039 --> 01:28:24.079 like to think you would at least be able to 1717 01:28:24.319 --> 01:28:25.880 achieve moments of free will. 1718 01:28:27.239 --> 01:28:29.239 I mean I like to think about it, you know, 1719 01:28:29.399 --> 01:28:31.439 to pull a line from Joe Dirt, it's like I 1720 01:28:31.520 --> 01:28:33.319 like to see homos naked. I mean I like to 1721 01:28:33.520 --> 01:28:37.039 you know, like to see what it's like. A life 1722 01:28:37.079 --> 01:28:38.960 is what you make it kind of situation. I don't know. 1723 01:28:39.039 --> 01:28:41.399 I mean I think that it's all about like how 1724 01:28:41.479 --> 01:28:43.640 you look at the world. It's always going to interact, 1725 01:28:44.039 --> 01:28:48.119 you know, according to how you're like through the lens 1726 01:28:48.119 --> 01:28:50.039 that you're looking at it like it works with you 1727 01:28:50.479 --> 01:28:51.000 kind of thing. 1728 01:28:51.319 --> 01:28:54.520 That's that's life of life of garden. You did you 1729 01:28:54.560 --> 01:28:55.119 make it work? 1730 01:28:56.359 --> 01:29:01.199 Dig it. So moving on, Britain said, I'm thinking if 1731 01:29:01.239 --> 01:29:06.039 demons are closer to our density, that might be why 1732 01:29:06.119 --> 01:29:08.560 they work faster, because they are more at our level 1733 01:29:08.680 --> 01:29:11.159 versus an angel that would be at a higher density. 1734 01:29:11.399 --> 01:29:13.600 It would take more work for them to shift down 1735 01:29:13.640 --> 01:29:16.520 the energy to our realm to help us. Yeah, and 1736 01:29:16.600 --> 01:29:20.520 this is actually goes into the conversation of the Oh, 1737 01:29:20.560 --> 01:29:22.840 it was the red shift in the blue shift conversation 1738 01:29:22.960 --> 01:29:27.159 that we had, which essentially is about you know, like 1739 01:29:27.319 --> 01:29:30.479 the idea of blue shifting for humans would just be 1740 01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:33.760 about raising your frequency so that you know, the angels 1741 01:29:33.840 --> 01:29:36.159 or the higher level entities would be able to match 1742 01:29:36.159 --> 01:29:38.039 you and they wouldn't have to go down so far. 1743 01:29:38.319 --> 01:29:41.800 Whereas you know, if you were red shifting and angels 1744 01:29:41.840 --> 01:29:44.039 would have to red shift or it's back one of 1745 01:29:44.079 --> 01:29:46.520 the other ones. I can't remember which way, but that 1746 01:29:46.680 --> 01:29:49.640 angels would have to red shift, which you know, kind 1747 01:29:49.640 --> 01:29:52.399 of lower their energy or whatever to be able to 1748 01:29:52.439 --> 01:29:55.560 meet us in the middle. And conversely the other way 1749 01:29:55.680 --> 01:29:59.800 that we would have to lower ourselves i e. Fear depression, anxiety, 1750 01:29:59.800 --> 01:30:02.399 w whatever, in order to be able to communicate with 1751 01:30:02.520 --> 01:30:09.960 the underworld or the lesser the density entities. What do 1752 01:30:10.000 --> 01:30:10.600 you think about that? 1753 01:30:12.039 --> 01:30:16.920 Uh? Yeah, yeah, I totally think so. Yeah. With the 1754 01:30:18.520 --> 01:30:21.520 with with the angels, I mean it almost there's times, 1755 01:30:21.880 --> 01:30:24.840 especially like when you're new to working with them, there's 1756 01:30:24.880 --> 01:30:27.000 times where it almost doesn't even feel like they're in 1757 01:30:27.000 --> 01:30:30.000 the room with you, you know, But then you'll start 1758 01:30:30.039 --> 01:30:33.199 noticing changes in your appearance and changes in your life 1759 01:30:33.239 --> 01:30:37.319 and everything, you know, So and that's another big thing. Man, 1760 01:30:37.880 --> 01:30:39.800 if you're not picking up on the spirit or you're 1761 01:30:39.840 --> 01:30:43.920 having trouble, just go through the motions like it's there 1762 01:30:43.960 --> 01:30:46.479 with you and close it out because chances are you're 1763 01:30:46.520 --> 01:30:49.640 just not picking up on it, you know, or you know. 1764 01:30:50.520 --> 01:30:53.640 Yeah, that's what brit says, or it means that you're here, 1765 01:30:53.680 --> 01:30:56.720 but you're not really from here. And that's that's the 1766 01:30:57.199 --> 01:31:00.000 conversation rate there, right, like, because so many people are 1767 01:31:00.039 --> 01:31:03.279 attached to this human body and that's how they believe 1768 01:31:03.319 --> 01:31:06.640 that that's who they are. Meanwhile, everybody understands this is 1769 01:31:06.640 --> 01:31:11.880 only a temporary thing and that obviously you like, I mean, 1770 01:31:12.039 --> 01:31:14.039 and this is where it gets a little convoluted, because 1771 01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:16.520 were you alive before you were born as a human 1772 01:31:16.600 --> 01:31:18.840 and are you going to be alive after you die 1773 01:31:18.880 --> 01:31:21.039 as a human. But if we are to believe that 1774 01:31:21.079 --> 01:31:23.840 we are spiritual beings, and you know, energy can't be 1775 01:31:23.880 --> 01:31:27.479 created or destroyed, only transferred at that point, getting a 1776 01:31:27.479 --> 01:31:31.000 little thermodynamics there, but like, if that's for real, and 1777 01:31:31.079 --> 01:31:35.039 I believe that it is, then you know, it's all 1778 01:31:35.039 --> 01:31:37.520 about kind of like what you're vibing with at that point, like, 1779 01:31:37.680 --> 01:31:40.720 do you see yourself strictly as a human, then then 1780 01:31:40.960 --> 01:31:45.920 maybe you're you're limited on the different magical things that 1781 01:31:45.960 --> 01:31:48.600 you can do. Whereas if you see yourself as more 1782 01:31:48.640 --> 01:31:50.600 than just that, as the soul or as the energy, 1783 01:31:50.680 --> 01:31:54.039 as the spirit or whatever, then maybe you would be 1784 01:31:54.039 --> 01:31:56.119 a little bit more inclined, a little bit more successful 1785 01:31:56.159 --> 01:31:58.640 to be able to work with the higher level entities. 1786 01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:03.680 I don't know, just ever tell you guys this story 1787 01:32:04.640 --> 01:32:09.439 when I had my memory of dying and incarnating into 1788 01:32:09.479 --> 01:32:09.920 this life. 1789 01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:11.840 Yeah, I believe he went over that. 1790 01:32:11.960 --> 01:32:14.119 Yeah, is a car crash or something, wasn't it. 1791 01:32:14.479 --> 01:32:16.520 Yeah, I died in a car crash. It looked like 1792 01:32:16.560 --> 01:32:20.800 a late seventies model car. And I remember just being 1793 01:32:20.800 --> 01:32:22.319 in a lot of pain. I think I was upside down. 1794 01:32:22.359 --> 01:32:23.960 There was parts of me hanging out that shouldn't be 1795 01:32:24.039 --> 01:32:28.479 hanging out, you know. And uh and I remember, like, uh, 1796 01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:32.159 at this, I'm like three years old when I had 1797 01:32:32.159 --> 01:32:34.479 this dream, like three or four years old. It's partly 1798 01:32:34.600 --> 01:32:36.600 closer to like two or three, because like I said, 1799 01:32:36.640 --> 01:32:40.560 like I wasn't even in kindergarten. Yeah, but uh, but 1800 01:32:40.720 --> 01:32:43.319 so in this dream, you know, I'm beat up and 1801 01:32:43.520 --> 01:32:45.520 getting a car I think the car came out of nowhere, 1802 01:32:45.640 --> 01:32:47.920 ran me off the road or something one of those situations. 1803 01:32:49.399 --> 01:32:52.279 And uh, I was in so much pain, and I 1804 01:32:52.279 --> 01:32:55.399 remember asking God, like, all right, if if I'm not 1805 01:32:55.600 --> 01:32:59.399 gonna make it, can I at least like not suffer 1806 01:32:59.439 --> 01:33:02.880 as much? I know, you know, and so you know, 1807 01:33:02.920 --> 01:33:05.239 like if I'm not gonna make it, just take me, now, 1808 01:33:05.319 --> 01:33:09.239 you know. And then everything it wasn't like I saw 1809 01:33:09.239 --> 01:33:12.199 a light. It was like everything dissolved into this white 1810 01:33:12.199 --> 01:33:15.680 golden light and it has everything materialized, like I guess 1811 01:33:15.720 --> 01:33:18.439 de materialized into the white golden light. All the matter 1812 01:33:18.479 --> 01:33:23.279 went away. I started going up and then I'm up 1813 01:33:23.279 --> 01:33:26.079 in like a just like a like a black void, 1814 01:33:26.159 --> 01:33:28.840 and there's just this wall of like a golden light, 1815 01:33:29.000 --> 01:33:33.079 and it's everywhere and it's really imposing. Uh and uh 1816 01:33:33.239 --> 01:33:36.239 and I remember being there before, right, I remember being 1817 01:33:36.279 --> 01:33:37.680 there several times before. 1818 01:33:38.600 --> 01:33:39.039 And uh. 1819 01:33:39.239 --> 01:33:40.840 And then I looked behind me to see what was 1820 01:33:40.880 --> 01:33:42.800 behind me, and I see like a silver light that's 1821 01:33:42.880 --> 01:33:46.199 kind of further away, almost like a tunnel, and I 1822 01:33:46.239 --> 01:33:50.319 wasn't sure which way to go, and I hear some 1823 01:33:50.439 --> 01:33:58.159 voices calling for me down in the silver light. And uh, 1824 01:33:58.720 --> 01:34:01.720 so before before this happened though, like, so I'm not 1825 01:34:01.760 --> 01:34:03.760 sure which way to go. So then I try to 1826 01:34:03.800 --> 01:34:07.760 remember my past life, because my life just flashed before 1827 01:34:07.760 --> 01:34:10.880 my eyes before this happened, right parts of it. And 1828 01:34:12.239 --> 01:34:13.840 so I try to remember my past life and it 1829 01:34:13.920 --> 01:34:16.039 was already e RaSE like the mind the mind wife 1830 01:34:16.079 --> 01:34:17.000 happens right away. 1831 01:34:17.600 --> 01:34:17.920 Wow. 1832 01:34:18.439 --> 01:34:21.840 So so I heard these voices down the silver Light 1833 01:34:22.600 --> 01:34:24.399 and then I decided to kind of just kind of 1834 01:34:24.960 --> 01:34:27.399 creep over there, like maybe I could get a closer look, 1835 01:34:27.439 --> 01:34:30.000 and I got sucked into it, and then I yelled 1836 01:34:30.039 --> 01:34:33.199 at myself, don't fucking forget this time. And then I 1837 01:34:33.239 --> 01:34:35.199 wake up in the car and I'm like, forget. 1838 01:34:34.880 --> 01:34:36.920 What that's a trip. 1839 01:34:37.119 --> 01:34:40.680 So so I think the silver light is the reincarnation trap, 1840 01:34:40.680 --> 01:34:42.880 and I think the golden light takes you back to 1841 01:34:42.960 --> 01:34:45.239 source or whatever is on the other side of that end. 1842 01:34:45.640 --> 01:34:51.199 But I had this realization associating it with the Tree 1843 01:34:51.239 --> 01:34:53.640 of Life in Cabala. I think it was after the 1844 01:34:53.800 --> 01:34:58.479 Cult of Conspiracy interview that I did. I think it 1845 01:34:58.520 --> 01:35:01.119 was like right after that, but I started thinking of 1846 01:35:01.159 --> 01:35:04.880 the Tree of Life glyph. So I started thinking associating 1847 01:35:04.880 --> 01:35:08.319 the silver Light with the moon being the reincarnation trap 1848 01:35:08.319 --> 01:35:13.720 and the sun being the we're turning you back to source. 1849 01:35:13.720 --> 01:35:16.199 But if you look at the Tree a Life glyph 1850 01:35:16.399 --> 01:35:19.039 on the on the other so basically, let's just say, like, 1851 01:35:19.680 --> 01:35:23.319 let's just put my spirit where the bar going in 1852 01:35:23.439 --> 01:35:26.279 between Venus and mercury is. Can you put the tree 1853 01:35:26.279 --> 01:35:27.199 a life Requie Jonathan? 1854 01:35:27.359 --> 01:35:27.600 Sure? 1855 01:35:28.600 --> 01:35:31.479 The what is it called, like the Cephyarroth or some ship? 1856 01:35:31.800 --> 01:35:34.720 Yeah? Just tree of life? Yeah, yeah, Cabala tree of life, 1857 01:35:35.840 --> 01:35:38.560 the basic glyph that everyone knows with all the sphears 1858 01:35:38.600 --> 01:35:41.720 and everything. Right, yeah, I. 1859 01:35:41.680 --> 01:35:44.800 Got you here. 1860 01:35:45.079 --> 01:35:48.319 And so I started thinking like, okay, if the silver 1861 01:35:48.479 --> 01:35:53.720 light is uh the reincarnation trap, uh, there we go. 1862 01:35:54.479 --> 01:35:59.279 Oh God, come on now, come on back. All right, 1863 01:35:59.359 --> 01:36:00.960 that was not or we're just gonna stick with this 1864 01:36:01.079 --> 01:36:01.439 all right. 1865 01:36:02.359 --> 01:36:06.119 Okay. So the earth is molku down the very bottom right, yes, 1866 01:36:06.199 --> 01:36:08.039 so it is the moon that's like right above it. 1867 01:36:08.239 --> 01:36:10.119 So let's put my soul in that bar going right 1868 01:36:10.159 --> 01:36:14.000 in between hood and nachiak or whatever you know as 1869 01:36:14.079 --> 01:36:15.760 mercury and Venus. I'm just doing with the planets, gonna 1870 01:36:15.720 --> 01:36:17.359 make it easy, okay. So got the Earth, you got 1871 01:36:17.399 --> 01:36:21.399 the moon, then you have Mercury and Venus going parallel 1872 01:36:21.479 --> 01:36:23.520 right there. Then you have the sun, and on the 1873 01:36:23.600 --> 01:36:27.319 other side of the Sun is like keither, which which 1874 01:36:27.319 --> 01:36:30.439 would be like the head of God. Right, So I 1875 01:36:30.439 --> 01:36:35.520 started thinking associating. I've been associating that the bright light 1876 01:36:35.560 --> 01:36:37.239 of the sun for a while and the silver light 1877 01:36:37.279 --> 01:36:40.359 with the moon for a while, and and I almost 1878 01:36:40.359 --> 01:36:42.279 think they have it mapped out here, because, like I said, 1879 01:36:42.640 --> 01:36:46.279 if it is associated with the moon, that silver light, 1880 01:36:46.840 --> 01:36:50.279 and it is the immediate reincarnation trap, look where the 1881 01:36:50.319 --> 01:36:53.439 moon is, and it just fast passed straight down to 1882 01:36:53.600 --> 01:36:57.119 the earth, right and then if you look at the Sun, 1883 01:36:57.399 --> 01:36:59.840 it would be a fast track straight to the head 1884 01:36:59.880 --> 01:37:02.119 of God. So I kind of had that. 1885 01:37:04.600 --> 01:37:06.479 Huh, which one's the sun? What is it called? 1886 01:37:07.920 --> 01:37:08.920 Right there in the middle right here? 1887 01:37:08.960 --> 01:37:09.359 Gotcha? 1888 01:37:09.479 --> 01:37:14.079 Yeah, so duh right up here. That was kind of 1889 01:37:14.119 --> 01:37:16.319 added later a little bit. 1890 01:37:18.199 --> 01:37:21.920 But the individuality, Yeah, it's not a real suffrath. 1891 01:37:23.119 --> 01:37:27.159 It's like it's kind of weird. But that'll also take 1892 01:37:27.159 --> 01:37:31.439 you to the night side, you know. But uh but yeah, 1893 01:37:31.479 --> 01:37:35.600 but I totally had that kind of realization that the 1894 01:37:35.600 --> 01:37:40.680 the glyph right there could be almost encoding the whole 1895 01:37:40.720 --> 01:37:42.600 reincarnation cycle. You know. 1896 01:37:42.800 --> 01:37:45.359 Oh, it's interesting that the sun would be represented by 1897 01:37:45.800 --> 01:37:48.600 Michael and the moon would be represented by Gabriel. 1898 01:37:49.560 --> 01:37:50.399 Yeah. 1899 01:37:50.640 --> 01:37:55.199 Yeah, wow because whenever you did that, because the last 1900 01:37:55.199 --> 01:37:57.319 time you were on we did that, uh, the the 1901 01:37:57.359 --> 01:38:00.880 meditation where essentially you were guiding it and you called 1902 01:38:00.920 --> 01:38:04.079 on the different cardinal directions and then the different angels 1903 01:38:04.079 --> 01:38:07.840 and stuff like that, and Michael and Gabriel. For for 1904 01:38:07.920 --> 01:38:10.920 me specifically, was like I felt that, you know, it 1905 01:38:10.960 --> 01:38:13.560 wasn't just my mind, it was just I let go 1906 01:38:13.800 --> 01:38:16.960 and I felt a full on presence whenever you mentioned 1907 01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:17.560 both of those. 1908 01:38:18.199 --> 01:38:20.640 Yeah, it was the way he was chanting it as well. 1909 01:38:21.239 --> 01:38:22.239 That really did something. 1910 01:38:22.600 --> 01:38:24.479 Oh we're gonna have to get weird again tonight Byron 1911 01:38:24.560 --> 01:38:25.079 you down. 1912 01:38:25.439 --> 01:38:26.359 Yeah, I'll do it again. 1913 01:38:26.479 --> 01:38:27.479 Yeah yeah. 1914 01:38:27.520 --> 01:38:31.520 But yeah, So so I had that uh, that realization man, Uh, 1915 01:38:31.800 --> 01:38:33.239 it was I think it was a right after that 1916 01:38:33.319 --> 01:38:37.359 Cult of Conspiracy interview. I think it was right after 1917 01:38:37.359 --> 01:38:39.119 that that I had that realization with the with the 1918 01:38:39.159 --> 01:38:40.920 Tree of Life associating with the Tree of Life. 1919 01:38:40.960 --> 01:38:43.359 Are you saying that we opened up your third high 1920 01:38:43.399 --> 01:38:44.880 over there, sir? Is that what you're trying to say? 1921 01:38:45.159 --> 01:38:47.439 Yeah, something happened. It just it just popped in my 1922 01:38:47.479 --> 01:38:51.319 head like it was like right after right after I finished. Man, 1923 01:38:51.479 --> 01:38:53.439 it was like right after I got up, I was stretching, 1924 01:38:53.680 --> 01:38:55.880 ah man, sitting down for like two or three hours, 1925 01:38:55.880 --> 01:38:57.279 you know, I think that I think that one was 1926 01:38:57.279 --> 01:38:58.239 like three and a half hours. 1927 01:38:58.680 --> 01:38:59.520 Yeah, it was a little while. 1928 01:38:59.600 --> 01:39:00.920 Yeah, take for a bit over there. 1929 01:39:01.079 --> 01:39:03.359 Oh yeah, yeah, it's it's not crazy to go for 1930 01:39:03.399 --> 01:39:07.920 three over there. But you know, and that's I love 1931 01:39:08.079 --> 01:39:12.359 those episodes for the opposite reason that I love meta mysteries, 1932 01:39:12.840 --> 01:39:16.159 Like they're so different. Like me and Sean, it's like, 1933 01:39:16.239 --> 01:39:18.159 all right, we're gonna take something and try and go 1934 01:39:18.199 --> 01:39:20.920 as deep as we possibly can with it, and there's 1935 01:39:20.920 --> 01:39:23.039 no hold ups, there's no stick ups. It's just like 1936 01:39:23.079 --> 01:39:26.279 we're working together to really try and understand it. Whereas 1937 01:39:26.399 --> 01:39:29.840 over with Jacob, I mean, I can't even get to 1938 01:39:30.079 --> 01:39:32.680 a checkpoint without being checked, you know. 1939 01:39:32.800 --> 01:39:36.560 Yeah. He has a very intense personality. Smart guy, though, dude, Joey, 1940 01:39:36.640 --> 01:39:39.920 smart motherfucker, absolutely smart dude, you know, oh yeah, smart guy. 1941 01:39:40.039 --> 01:39:43.039 He makes me think, And to be honest, I love that. 1942 01:39:43.479 --> 01:39:45.279 Like that's my favorite part about The Cold is that 1943 01:39:45.359 --> 01:39:49.000 it makes me think, especially like earlier, for example, we 1944 01:39:49.079 --> 01:39:51.159 did an episode with The Cold and it was about 1945 01:39:51.760 --> 01:39:55.399 some kind of gassing type of situation that was going 1946 01:39:55.479 --> 01:40:00.159 on in Illinois back in like nineteen forty or something 1947 01:40:00.239 --> 01:40:02.560 like that, and he was thinking that it had to 1948 01:40:02.600 --> 01:40:04.760 have been the Nazis that were coming over to America 1949 01:40:04.880 --> 01:40:07.840 and gassing certain people's houses and stuff. And I was like, 1950 01:40:08.199 --> 01:40:10.159 I don't know, just think about it, like for the 1951 01:40:11.199 --> 01:40:14.680 numerology and the propaganda that was also going on around 1952 01:40:14.680 --> 01:40:18.319 at that point. And he had mentioned about how thirty 1953 01:40:18.399 --> 01:40:23.279 three people got gassed in their house and over the 1954 01:40:23.319 --> 01:40:26.399 span of twelve days, and the news articles all said 1955 01:40:26.399 --> 01:40:28.560 that that it was thirty three people over the span 1956 01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:30.359 of twelve days, and it just kept on saying. I 1957 01:40:30.399 --> 01:40:32.720 was like, dude, I'm telling you, every time they go 1958 01:40:32.800 --> 01:40:35.159 with that type of numerology, it has to be something. 1959 01:40:35.479 --> 01:40:37.920 And so then I started looking up, like, all right, 1960 01:40:37.960 --> 01:40:41.000 what is the symbolism with thirty three and twelve whenever 1961 01:40:41.039 --> 01:40:43.439 combined like that? And then of course it has to 1962 01:40:43.439 --> 01:40:47.000 get a little kabbalistic, because Jesus lived to be thirty 1963 01:40:47.039 --> 01:40:50.039 three years thirty three years old, there's thirty three vertebrae, 1964 01:40:50.159 --> 01:40:53.640 there's thirty three levels within freemasonry and stuff like that. 1965 01:40:53.920 --> 01:40:55.840 But then you look at the twelve. It's the fucking 1966 01:40:55.880 --> 01:40:58.680 twelve apostles, So of course they're playing there together, you. 1967 01:40:58.600 --> 01:40:59.920 Know, twelve signs of the Zodia. 1968 01:41:00.199 --> 01:41:03.079 Yeah, exactly, And so I was like, of course that's 1969 01:41:03.119 --> 01:41:04.880 an occult thing. How are you not seeing it? That's 1970 01:41:04.880 --> 01:41:05.960 screens two. 1971 01:41:06.479 --> 01:41:10.520 And the thirty three is associated with the sun, which 1972 01:41:10.600 --> 01:41:14.760 Jesus is also associated with the sun, you know, So yeah, 1973 01:41:14.800 --> 01:41:22.439 thirty three the solar lunar cycle, the solar eclipse cycle 1974 01:41:23.119 --> 01:41:25.760 is that thirty three years. And the Quran is really 1975 01:41:25.840 --> 01:41:28.680 heavy on the number nineteen, and that's why you have 1976 01:41:28.760 --> 01:41:33.439 like nineteen hijackers flight nineteen, flight ninety one OVID nineteen, 1977 01:41:34.680 --> 01:41:37.119 and that's associated with the moon because the moon's ecliptic 1978 01:41:37.199 --> 01:41:40.520 cycle is nineteen years and so and you also look 1979 01:41:40.520 --> 01:41:44.039 at you know, the sun, right, so you have the 1980 01:41:45.640 --> 01:41:52.359 our calendar on the winter solstice is twelve twenty one, 1981 01:41:52.800 --> 01:41:57.760 which is thirty three, and then the spring equinox is 1982 01:41:57.920 --> 01:42:01.920 three twenty one, which is thirty three, you know, and 1983 01:42:01.960 --> 01:42:04.199 then when you look at like Jesus being in metaphor 1984 01:42:04.279 --> 01:42:07.600 for the sun. Everyone knows like this from you know, 1985 01:42:07.640 --> 01:42:10.680 like zeitgeist and stuff, but it's still true, you know. 1986 01:42:10.840 --> 01:42:17.640 So like uh on this in the northern hemisphere, as 1987 01:42:17.680 --> 01:42:21.199 the sun begins to work its way from the equator 1988 01:42:21.359 --> 01:42:24.880 down to the tropic of Capricorn, it gets lower and 1989 01:42:24.920 --> 01:42:27.159 lower and lower and lower on the horizon as it 1990 01:42:27.159 --> 01:42:30.319 gets further away from us. And on the twenty first, 1991 01:42:30.319 --> 01:42:32.760 it reaches its lowest point and then it kind of 1992 01:42:32.800 --> 01:42:35.159 sits there for about three days and then. 1993 01:42:35.039 --> 01:42:37.279 It goes up one that resurrects. 1994 01:42:37.520 --> 01:42:39.439 Yeah, that's why you have. The sun dies for three 1995 01:42:39.560 --> 01:42:42.840 days and is resurrected, and we sell and we celebrate 1996 01:42:42.880 --> 01:42:46.199 the resurrection on Easter, which is the first Sunday after 1997 01:42:46.239 --> 01:42:49.399 the first full moon after the spring equinox, you know. 1998 01:42:50.039 --> 01:42:52.920 And when we associate, when we associate Jesus with like 1999 01:42:52.960 --> 01:42:57.000 the lamb of God, that's like the aries. That's that's 2000 01:42:57.159 --> 01:42:59.960 that's the lamb of God. That's the first uh, that's 2001 01:43:00.159 --> 01:43:04.880 the first month in the solar year is aries. Yeah. 2002 01:43:04.920 --> 01:43:05.680 I love this. 2003 01:43:06.239 --> 01:43:06.479 Yeah. 2004 01:43:06.520 --> 01:43:08.800 We're just gonna let you cook right now. That was 2005 01:43:08.840 --> 01:43:09.880 great in the kitchen. 2006 01:43:09.960 --> 01:43:16.199 Yeah yeah, so yeah, you know, how do we get 2007 01:43:16.199 --> 01:43:19.520 into that. I don't know what we were originally talking about, man. 2008 01:43:19.479 --> 01:43:21.960 We were talking about the Tree of life and then 2009 01:43:22.399 --> 01:43:23.399 the gas oh oh. 2010 01:43:23.319 --> 01:43:26.800 Yeah, thirty three, Yeah, thirty three, and then nineteen with 2011 01:43:26.880 --> 01:43:31.239 the moon. The Koran's really big on nineteen, the Bible's 2012 01:43:31.319 --> 01:43:36.640 really big on thirty three, you know. So, yeah, it's 2013 01:43:36.640 --> 01:43:37.399 the sun and the moon. 2014 01:43:37.640 --> 01:43:40.800 You know, it's just repurposed information, is really all. 2015 01:43:40.840 --> 01:43:43.640 It is another interesting thing, you know, And this is 2016 01:43:43.680 --> 01:43:46.840 something that Zeitgey's kind of got wrong a little bit. 2017 01:43:46.880 --> 01:43:48.960 And I think Peter Joseph did it because it was 2018 01:43:48.960 --> 01:43:51.000 like the first time this information was being brought out. 2019 01:43:51.479 --> 01:43:53.680 I think he tried to make it really really easy 2020 01:43:54.479 --> 01:43:57.479 because it gets really convoluted because because not everything's in 2021 01:43:57.560 --> 01:44:00.399 apples apples comparison, but it's clear that's based on the 2022 01:44:00.399 --> 01:44:06.399 same principle. But uh so, so he talks about Horror 2023 01:44:06.399 --> 01:44:09.800 is dying and resurrecting, having twelve followers and stuff, but 2024 01:44:10.439 --> 01:44:15.960 really Horace was the resurrection of Asirius, you know. So 2025 01:44:16.000 --> 01:44:21.359 a cyrus is chopped in the thirteen parts, which which 2026 01:44:21.439 --> 01:44:24.479 leaves twelve parts that are discarded. The thirteenth part is 2027 01:44:24.479 --> 01:44:28.159 this phallus, which which isis used to impregnant yourself to 2028 01:44:28.159 --> 01:44:30.359 give birth the horus. So that's where you have like 2029 01:44:30.439 --> 01:44:35.279 the twelve signs plus the erection, which is the resurrection. 2030 01:44:36.079 --> 01:44:42.520 Oh wow, you know, I have this in the conversation, 2031 01:44:43.880 --> 01:44:44.239 but I. 2032 01:44:44.159 --> 01:44:47.439 Think I think Nimrod in the Bible though, has a 2033 01:44:47.439 --> 01:44:49.520 similar thing where it gets like chopped up, but instead 2034 01:44:49.520 --> 01:44:51.239 of gettingchoppedup in the thirteen because you get chopped up 2035 01:44:51.239 --> 01:44:54.079 in the nineteen pieces. So I want to start looking 2036 01:44:54.079 --> 01:44:57.279 into that a little bit, associating like again with with 2037 01:44:57.319 --> 01:45:01.720 the moon and the Qur'an dude I nineteen. 2038 01:45:02.560 --> 01:45:05.680 You know, whenever it comes to especially like you know, 2039 01:45:06.039 --> 01:45:08.800 ancient Egyptian kind of stuff like that, when you get 2040 01:45:08.800 --> 01:45:12.359 into Isis, Osiris, Horus and Thoth and stuff like that, 2041 01:45:12.600 --> 01:45:15.720 do you think that like those people back in those 2042 01:45:15.840 --> 01:45:18.840 days that were let's just say, for a lack of 2043 01:45:18.840 --> 01:45:22.159 a better word, worshiping these these gods and these deities, 2044 01:45:22.439 --> 01:45:25.720 do you think that they looked at it as literal 2045 01:45:26.039 --> 01:45:28.319 or do you think that they were more in tune 2046 01:45:28.399 --> 01:45:33.199 like spiritually working with the energies of said uh mythological 2047 01:45:33.239 --> 01:45:35.760 god or both? 2048 01:45:37.119 --> 01:45:41.039 Uh? It depends. You know, like part of me thinks 2049 01:45:41.039 --> 01:45:43.479 that that was something that the priests class, that the 2050 01:45:43.880 --> 01:45:49.479 higher echelons knew and understood, you know, where uh, you know, 2051 01:45:49.560 --> 01:45:56.159 the lesser, the unwashed masses, the unclean masses probably didn't know, 2052 01:45:56.359 --> 01:45:56.960 you know, who knows. 2053 01:45:57.039 --> 01:45:58.760 Yeah, the lesser initiated probably took me. 2054 01:45:59.399 --> 01:46:01.600 But the thing with the Pagan pantheon, it's a lot 2055 01:46:01.840 --> 01:46:04.279 it's a lot more obvious with the Pagan pantheon that 2056 01:46:04.720 --> 01:46:08.600 these are metaphors, you know, for the skyclock and as 2057 01:46:08.600 --> 01:46:11.439 a result, the whole creation, because everything comes from the sky, 2058 01:46:12.199 --> 01:46:13.960 you know, everything down here so. 2059 01:46:14.159 --> 01:46:17.159 Well, especially the Greeks, right, I mean, I can't imagine 2060 01:46:17.199 --> 01:46:20.720 they were like looking at Hercules as a literal thing. 2061 01:46:20.760 --> 01:46:23.439 It had to have been something. 2062 01:46:23.880 --> 01:46:26.800 You know, going back to the solar messiahs. Hercules is 2063 01:46:26.840 --> 01:46:31.880 another one. Prometheus gets punished by Zeus. He gets chained 2064 01:46:31.880 --> 01:46:35.399 to that rock. It's fairly similar to the really similar 2065 01:46:35.399 --> 01:46:39.520 to the Crucifixion. Instead of getting stabbed in the liver 2066 01:46:39.640 --> 01:46:41.880 by a spear, he's getting his liver eaten out every 2067 01:46:41.960 --> 01:46:46.720 day by Zeus, who's in the form of an eagle. Hercules, 2068 01:46:46.840 --> 01:46:50.279 instead of having twelve apostles or getting his body chopped 2069 01:46:50.319 --> 01:46:53.720 up into twelve pieces, they get discarded. He performs the 2070 01:46:53.720 --> 01:46:58.039 twelve labors of Hercules to free Prometheus. And what was 2071 01:46:58.039 --> 01:47:03.239 Prometheus punished for for bringing the giving humanity? The fire? 2072 01:47:03.359 --> 01:47:06.079 Of the gods. So that's where you have this thing 2073 01:47:06.079 --> 01:47:07.960 where he like was basically changed to a rock really 2074 01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:12.359 symmeto a crucifixion. He basically was crucified and suffered for 2075 01:47:12.560 --> 01:47:13.319 man's redemption. 2076 01:47:14.159 --> 01:47:17.199 So they were literally eating his livery. 2077 01:47:17.239 --> 01:47:20.600 You said, uh, yeah, Zeus was in the form of 2078 01:47:20.600 --> 01:47:21.880 an eagle eating out his liver. 2079 01:47:22.199 --> 01:47:25.119 That is very like a cultic too, if you think 2080 01:47:25.159 --> 01:47:28.079 about it like symbolic, I'll say, because if you look 2081 01:47:28.119 --> 01:47:31.479 at the eagle as a whole, you know, especially within astrology, 2082 01:47:31.560 --> 01:47:34.800 you got the scorpion and then it rises, you know, 2083 01:47:34.880 --> 01:47:37.600 raises its kundleini and then it turns itself into an eagle. 2084 01:47:37.640 --> 01:47:39.359 So that way, it's not a bottom dweller and it's 2085 01:47:39.399 --> 01:47:43.319 looking from a higher perspective. And so if that's if 2086 01:47:43.319 --> 01:47:46.079 that was the case, and then you compare that to 2087 01:47:46.600 --> 01:47:49.479 the eating of the flesh essentially what Jesus was saying, 2088 01:47:49.520 --> 01:47:51.479 eat of my flesh and drink of my blood. It's 2089 01:47:52.239 --> 01:47:58.600 like a what was it called not communion, damn the Eucharist. 2090 01:47:59.079 --> 01:48:01.880 And do you do you think that that's like a 2091 01:48:01.880 --> 01:48:06.279 correlation there, like maybe that that same story, like that's 2092 01:48:06.359 --> 01:48:08.560 maybe that's where the whole idea of the Eucharist started. 2093 01:48:09.479 --> 01:48:14.079 Uh probably, I mean even looking at you know, sorry, 2094 01:48:14.079 --> 01:48:16.760 it's being broken up into all these little parts, you know. 2095 01:48:17.119 --> 01:48:20.119 Uh so, yeah, probably. And you know, the thing with 2096 01:48:20.159 --> 01:48:23.159 the Greek myths too, was Prometheus was the Greek god 2097 01:48:23.760 --> 01:48:28.439 that was tasked with creating humans. So he was basically 2098 01:48:28.479 --> 01:48:31.720 the savior of man. God. He was the one that 2099 01:48:31.800 --> 01:48:36.479 created us, and then he pays this ultimate sacrifice for 2100 01:48:36.520 --> 01:48:41.880 our salvation, you know. And you'll get Hercules as being 2101 01:48:41.920 --> 01:48:44.479 the Sun having to go save them, has to go 2102 01:48:44.520 --> 01:48:47.479 through all the constellations to save them. 2103 01:48:48.720 --> 01:48:52.279 It's all just astro theology at this point, right, yeah. 2104 01:48:51.920 --> 01:48:53.960 You know, and there could be some history in there too, 2105 01:48:54.079 --> 01:48:57.239 like with the Bible of the Koran, because a part 2106 01:48:57.239 --> 01:48:58.800 of it does read like a history book, and there 2107 01:48:58.840 --> 01:49:01.119 could be stuff that's dn't in there to look at. 2108 01:49:01.359 --> 01:49:01.600 You know. 2109 01:49:02.479 --> 01:49:05.439 I think Christians need to start investigating the Quran more. 2110 01:49:06.039 --> 01:49:09.520 You know, really why you say that, I mean, just the. 2111 01:49:09.439 --> 01:49:12.760 Way the Bible is all big on the number thirty three, 2112 01:49:13.560 --> 01:49:15.479 and the way we see that in all these psychologa 2113 01:49:15.680 --> 01:49:18.000 logical operations are pulling off, and how it's associated with 2114 01:49:18.039 --> 01:49:21.000 the sun, and the way the Quran talks about the 2115 01:49:21.079 --> 01:49:24.399 number nineteen, And the Kuran actually tells you to go 2116 01:49:24.439 --> 01:49:28.199 and go look for the number nineteen. Investigate this. They're 2117 01:49:28.239 --> 01:49:31.000 lying about history, they're lying about this. Go and go 2118 01:49:31.079 --> 01:49:35.840 look for yourselves. What yeah, so and so you look 2119 01:49:35.840 --> 01:49:38.199 at you know, and the number nineteen it's it's like 2120 01:49:38.880 --> 01:49:42.560 it's in every conspiracy, even more than the number thirty three. 2121 01:49:43.319 --> 01:49:45.560 You know, Oh my. 2122 01:49:45.680 --> 01:49:48.479 God, that makes so much sense. I didn't know that 2123 01:49:48.479 --> 01:49:50.039 the Koran was on some shit like that. 2124 01:49:51.199 --> 01:49:53.960 Yeah, and uh, but both books, I mean, they've been 2125 01:49:54.479 --> 01:49:58.920 translated a few times, mistranslated a few times. You know, 2126 01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:02.479 you gotta keep you know, you gotta be real careful 2127 01:50:02.479 --> 01:50:04.359 with what you want to hold onto when you read those. 2128 01:50:04.439 --> 01:50:07.239 But but I do think I think Christians need to 2129 01:50:07.239 --> 01:50:12.279 start investigating the Kuran, especially the truthers. No but or not, 2130 01:50:12.479 --> 01:50:15.119 you know, I mean, they're not exactly easy books to read. 2131 01:50:14.960 --> 01:50:19.960 So I imagine, yeah, well, very interesting that being said. 2132 01:50:20.000 --> 01:50:23.000 As far as the moonlight and the sunlight, one being 2133 01:50:23.079 --> 01:50:25.720 the reincarnation, the other one the strict path to God, 2134 01:50:25.760 --> 01:50:27.479 which one are you guys doing? Because I think I might, 2135 01:50:28.039 --> 01:50:30.119 I think I might take the ride again, you know 2136 01:50:30.159 --> 01:50:30.520 what I mean. 2137 01:50:30.600 --> 01:50:32.479 I thought about this recently. 2138 01:50:32.760 --> 01:50:32.960 You know. 2139 01:50:33.279 --> 01:50:37.399 I'm like, if there's a slim hope that I can 2140 01:50:37.479 --> 01:50:41.800 remember even half of a percent about my previous life, 2141 01:50:41.920 --> 01:50:46.880 i'lbeit through deja vu or synchronicity or something like that. 2142 01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:49.439 I'm like, it's really not that bad here, once you 2143 01:50:49.479 --> 01:50:50.880 get the hang of it, you know what i mean. 2144 01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:52.199 Yeah. 2145 01:50:52.399 --> 01:50:52.600 Yeah. 2146 01:50:52.720 --> 01:50:54.640 For the longest time, I was like, I'm done with 2147 01:50:54.680 --> 01:50:58.119 this place. I'm going back, you know. But now, but 2148 01:50:58.199 --> 01:51:00.640 now I start thinking, you know, like think about what 2149 01:51:00.680 --> 01:51:03.159 I learned in this life, Like, imagine what one more 2150 01:51:03.319 --> 01:51:04.039 ride could do? 2151 01:51:04.359 --> 01:51:05.479 Oh dude, you know. 2152 01:51:05.600 --> 01:51:08.279 But then I'm like, fuck, dude, Like what if that? 2153 01:51:08.359 --> 01:51:10.560 What if that doesn't happen? Though? What if I'm like 2154 01:51:10.640 --> 01:51:15.640 retarded or something. You know, You're. 2155 01:51:15.479 --> 01:51:17.359 Gonna be happy all the time. You're not even gonna 2156 01:51:17.399 --> 01:51:18.520 have to worry about that. 2157 01:51:18.600 --> 01:51:21.880 It'd be really good supply grill chy sandwiches, I'm good. 2158 01:51:21.760 --> 01:51:24.880 And chocolate mouth dude, chicken nuggets. It would be good 2159 01:51:24.960 --> 01:51:26.119 to go, oh. 2160 01:51:26.079 --> 01:51:28.479 Yeah, cutting cutting stuff with safety scissors. 2161 01:51:28.800 --> 01:51:32.000 Yeah, you know what. 2162 01:51:32.079 --> 01:51:34.039 I actually had a thought about this too, as far 2163 01:51:34.079 --> 01:51:37.880 as like reincarnation goes I and and tell me if 2164 01:51:37.880 --> 01:51:40.359 I'm wrong or I'm just I like to theorize and 2165 01:51:40.359 --> 01:51:43.920 philosophize about all this kind of stuff as far as 2166 01:51:43.960 --> 01:51:47.680 reincarnation goes. Is it possible that the reason we don't remember, 2167 01:51:48.560 --> 01:51:51.359 you know, uh, why most people don't remember where they 2168 01:51:51.439 --> 01:51:56.800 came from is because the previous incarnation or the previous 2169 01:51:56.840 --> 01:51:59.840 way we were living was so different compared to this 2170 01:51:59.840 --> 01:52:03.279 that it doesn't even necessarily apply. The rules are totally different, 2171 01:52:03.720 --> 01:52:06.000 and maybe the density was a little bit different, and 2172 01:52:06.319 --> 01:52:08.279 you know that knowledge isn't going to help you over 2173 01:52:08.319 --> 01:52:10.560 here kind of thing, because if you think about it, 2174 01:52:10.680 --> 01:52:13.560 that's the same way that like dreams and you know, 2175 01:52:13.760 --> 01:52:16.560 uh DMT trips or mushroom trips are It's like you 2176 01:52:16.600 --> 01:52:18.439 feel like you're taking on so much knowledge and so 2177 01:52:18.520 --> 01:52:23.680 much information, but it's hard to really apply geometric fucking 2178 01:52:24.000 --> 01:52:28.279 symbolism into this life in a sense. And so maybe 2179 01:52:28.319 --> 01:52:31.439 it's like your mind really old, only holds on to 2180 01:52:32.119 --> 01:52:35.960 what is like necessary. What do you think about that? 2181 01:52:37.479 --> 01:52:40.119 I don't know, man, Ever since that dream, which is 2182 01:52:40.159 --> 01:52:42.880 like three years old, you know, I've been thinking about 2183 01:52:42.920 --> 01:52:44.960 this like a lot throughout my life, and I have 2184 01:52:45.039 --> 01:52:48.479 no idea, you know, like it's to me, it seems 2185 01:52:48.560 --> 01:52:52.840 like a it seems kind of bunk to me that 2186 01:52:52.880 --> 01:52:55.680 we don't remember our lives and why we're here, you know. 2187 01:52:55.920 --> 01:52:58.479 And I guess that's probably part of the game. I 2188 01:52:58.479 --> 01:53:01.319 don't know, but I just feel like it would I 2189 01:53:01.319 --> 01:53:03.000 feel like it would have been a lot easier to 2190 01:53:03.039 --> 01:53:07.399 make certain decisions if you remember the mistakes you made 2191 01:53:07.520 --> 01:53:08.520 in your past lives. 2192 01:53:09.800 --> 01:53:12.159 But or if you were allowed to live longer, like 2193 01:53:12.239 --> 01:53:14.159 if we didn't have to tap out at a maximum 2194 01:53:14.199 --> 01:53:17.159 of one twenty, if we can live like fucking Methusla 2195 01:53:17.279 --> 01:53:18.760 to nine hundred years old or whatever. 2196 01:53:18.800 --> 01:53:21.199 You know, Yeah, if we were like twenty five years 2197 01:53:21.199 --> 01:53:23.079 old for like a hundred years, that'd be great. 2198 01:53:24.039 --> 01:53:28.079 So wise, you know, and the people before you, you know, 2199 01:53:28.199 --> 01:53:30.399 as wise as they are teaching you stuff as you're 2200 01:53:30.439 --> 01:53:33.399 coming up, dude, Like it would be just exponential as 2201 01:53:33.439 --> 01:53:35.079 far as you know, how wise we would all be. 2202 01:53:35.680 --> 01:53:38.279 Yeah, and uh, you know, now there's a real issue 2203 01:53:38.279 --> 01:53:45.680 that you know, with inoculations and diet GMOs and you know, 2204 01:53:45.760 --> 01:53:48.800 all the processed foods. You know, like people are are 2205 01:53:48.800 --> 01:53:53.159 losing their uh their mental capacity younger and younger ages. 2206 01:53:53.199 --> 01:53:55.840 Now you know, people are going more senilean dementia and 2207 01:53:55.920 --> 01:53:58.600 pre dementia, and yeah. 2208 01:53:58.439 --> 01:54:02.079 It's uh and losing themselves through anxiety, which is ultimately 2209 01:54:02.199 --> 01:54:04.880 just a disconnection from what you truly are if you 2210 01:54:04.920 --> 01:54:06.439 really think about it, you know. 2211 01:54:06.760 --> 01:54:10.199 Yeah, oh yeah, anxiety and depression, Yeah right. 2212 01:54:10.159 --> 01:54:13.039 Right, they're feeding into those thoughts that aren't even you. 2213 01:54:13.600 --> 01:54:16.079 But you know, sometimes die but sometimes diet you know 2214 01:54:16.119 --> 01:54:20.760 it can cause that stuff too, you know. And so yeah, 2215 01:54:20.800 --> 01:54:24.520 it's uh because because now people's like minds are kind 2216 01:54:24.520 --> 01:54:27.319 of starting to fade. You know, fifty sixty years old, 2217 01:54:28.800 --> 01:54:33.199 and uh, that's not a lot of prime years, you know, 2218 01:54:33.800 --> 01:54:38.000 where you're like healthy and young and capable and ambitious. 2219 01:54:38.079 --> 01:54:39.039 It's not a lot of years. 2220 01:54:39.159 --> 01:54:41.399 I feel like, whenever I'm fifty, I really have a 2221 01:54:41.399 --> 01:54:44.319 pretty damn good grasp on what's going on here. I 2222 01:54:44.319 --> 01:54:46.399 hope that I don't die at that age. That would suck. 2223 01:54:47.319 --> 01:54:50.840 Yeah, you know, it's my goal to be as young 2224 01:54:50.880 --> 01:54:53.000 and healthy for as long as possible. You know. 2225 01:54:53.640 --> 01:54:57.079 There you go, Yeah, dude. So when we me and 2226 01:54:57.119 --> 01:55:00.000 Sean we had previously talked on the on the most 2227 01:55:00.079 --> 01:55:02.720 recent episode about getting you on here, we kind of 2228 01:55:02.720 --> 01:55:06.800 wanted to dive into what are some possible like simple rituals. 2229 01:55:06.840 --> 01:55:09.560 Do you do like any kind of simple rituals? An 2230 01:55:09.560 --> 01:55:13.000 example of that would be, like I learned that if 2231 01:55:13.039 --> 01:55:16.000 you put like a drop of honey in your coffee, 2232 01:55:16.279 --> 01:55:18.600 that it's gonna make your day sweet as long as 2233 01:55:18.640 --> 01:55:20.720 you go with that intention kind of thing. Is Is 2234 01:55:20.760 --> 01:55:22.800 there any like kind of simple rituals that you do 2235 01:55:22.880 --> 01:55:25.640 on a daily basis that maybe you don't even you know, 2236 01:55:26.159 --> 01:55:29.880 it's just just part of your your daily thing. 2237 01:55:30.640 --> 01:55:34.600 Yeah, yeah, you know, not too different than what you're 2238 01:55:34.640 --> 01:55:38.800 talking about. But I'll I'll bless spiritually, like clean and 2239 01:55:38.840 --> 01:55:41.319 bless my food and drink a lot. I do that 2240 01:55:41.399 --> 01:55:44.720 a lot, you know. So that's a big one. 2241 01:55:45.199 --> 01:55:46.600 Oh man, that's a good one. 2242 01:55:46.800 --> 01:55:50.439 Yeah. So that's something you can try with your coffee 2243 01:55:50.920 --> 01:55:53.439 when you before you put the cinnamon in it, like 2244 01:55:53.439 --> 01:55:55.920 like bless and clean it and then put the mean 2245 01:55:56.000 --> 01:55:57.520 sugar put the sugar or honey in it. 2246 01:55:57.680 --> 01:56:01.600 I mean, I've also been told that going winter shins 2247 01:56:01.800 --> 01:56:06.239 or counterclockwise is uh is better to stir your coffee 2248 01:56:06.279 --> 01:56:07.760 in the morning. I don't know, you know, it's like 2249 01:56:07.800 --> 01:56:10.079 getting in the flow of just the flow. 2250 01:56:11.039 --> 01:56:14.159 Yeah, I uh, I guess like if I'm cooking like 2251 01:56:14.199 --> 01:56:18.640 a pot of food or something, I'll stir it really 2252 01:56:18.880 --> 01:56:22.199 like at a steady pace, you know, without clanking on 2253 01:56:22.239 --> 01:56:26.520 the edges, and then I'll bless it and then really 2254 01:56:26.520 --> 01:56:28.520 clean it and kind of use of divine words of 2255 01:56:28.560 --> 01:56:31.479 power and stuff while I'm doing it. And uh so, 2256 01:56:32.439 --> 01:56:36.039 uh so do you say you're told to go winter shins? 2257 01:56:36.479 --> 01:56:40.199 Yeah? Because I believe it's because if you look at 2258 01:56:40.319 --> 01:56:43.359 a lot of the the the spiral like things that 2259 01:56:43.399 --> 01:56:46.680 are within nature, whether it be shells or just certain 2260 01:56:46.880 --> 01:56:49.479 flows of water and stuff, that it's always usually like, 2261 01:56:50.119 --> 01:56:51.479 uh counterclockwise. 2262 01:56:51.840 --> 01:56:54.359 Oh okay, I wonder if that has something to do 2263 01:56:54.439 --> 01:56:57.960 with why Mecca they walk counterclockwise around the Kaba? 2264 01:56:58.439 --> 01:57:00.479 That can be I think that I think came up 2265 01:57:00.479 --> 01:57:01.600 too because. 2266 01:57:01.399 --> 01:57:03.079 I was always wondering like, why did they what do 2267 01:57:03.159 --> 01:57:05.600 they walk withter shoons? You know, why they walk counterclockwise? 2268 01:57:05.640 --> 01:57:06.760 I was always wondering. 2269 01:57:06.439 --> 01:57:08.479 That it makes mirroring nature? 2270 01:57:09.159 --> 01:57:10.119 Yeah, makes sense? 2271 01:57:10.199 --> 01:57:11.800 What makes sense? You had to go with the flow 2272 01:57:11.880 --> 01:57:13.560 of what everything else is already doing. 2273 01:57:13.800 --> 01:57:17.880 Yeah, even though everything goes clockwise over the earth, it 2274 01:57:17.960 --> 01:57:22.079 still makes sense to me. It's like flowers and everything 2275 01:57:22.119 --> 01:57:25.479 that's coming manifesting down here is counterclockwise. It doesn't make sense. 2276 01:57:26.319 --> 01:57:30.159 Oh yeah, good point. So all right, well I think 2277 01:57:30.199 --> 01:57:32.079 that you know, we're probably gonna wrap it up here. 2278 01:57:32.319 --> 01:57:34.800 And uh, Sean, do you have a card? 2279 01:57:34.800 --> 01:57:38.680 Pold sir, Oh, I have too, if that's okay. So 2280 01:57:39.359 --> 01:57:43.800 I got the Ace of wands, get and the two 2281 01:57:43.840 --> 01:57:44.720 of one's. 2282 01:57:45.199 --> 01:57:46.399 Oh, right next to each other. 2283 01:57:46.880 --> 01:57:50.039 Yeah, the two of one's is very interesting looking. 2284 01:57:51.600 --> 01:57:53.840 The ace of wands and the two of ones. Yeah, 2285 01:57:53.840 --> 01:57:57.840 they're back to back. So uh the Ace of Wands, 2286 01:57:57.920 --> 01:58:01.279 the gift of creation is presented from divine be open 2287 01:58:01.319 --> 01:58:04.279 to exciting new possibilities. The Ace of Wands brings the 2288 01:58:04.279 --> 01:58:07.199 gift of a new beginning rooted in passion and creativity. 2289 01:58:07.439 --> 01:58:09.760 The hand of the Divine emerges from a cloud, offering 2290 01:58:09.800 --> 01:58:13.640 a single wand of visionary inspiration sprouting green leaves. Beneath 2291 01:58:13.680 --> 01:58:16.239 the wand is a lush landscape that includes a castle, 2292 01:58:16.359 --> 01:58:19.600 peaceful river, and a handful of fertile trees. This scene 2293 01:58:19.640 --> 01:58:23.279 depicts stability, prosperity, movement, and the current of emotions that 2294 01:58:24.039 --> 01:58:27.880 propels you forward, supporting a new venture, and the spiritual 2295 01:58:27.920 --> 01:58:34.119 message behind it says when travel and adventure. When travel 2296 01:58:34.159 --> 01:58:39.079 and adventure opportunities present themselves, embrace them. Beginning a health 2297 01:58:39.159 --> 01:58:43.079 or fitness routine will bring renewed confidence and excitement into 2298 01:58:43.119 --> 01:58:45.600 your life. This is an ideal time to take action 2299 01:58:45.680 --> 01:58:48.079 on goals or creative projects that you've been thinking about. 2300 01:58:48.119 --> 01:58:52.680 So stay open to divine inspiration. So basically the key 2301 01:58:52.720 --> 01:58:58.119 meaning to this card would be inspiration and creativity and 2302 01:58:58.199 --> 01:58:58.800 new beginnings. 2303 01:58:58.960 --> 01:59:02.000 Yeah good, Why I keep pulling it? Man? You know 2304 01:59:02.079 --> 01:59:06.000 the taro's like, uh, loose a mite heavy, Yeah, do something. 2305 01:59:06.520 --> 01:59:08.960 It's almost like it's almost like the fool card if 2306 01:59:08.960 --> 01:59:11.600 you think about it. It's a new beginning and maybe 2307 01:59:11.640 --> 01:59:12.600 it's just another chapter. 2308 01:59:13.479 --> 01:59:16.359 Yeah. All all of the ones are basically new beginnings, 2309 01:59:16.560 --> 01:59:19.279 you know, and then the twos are like a fork 2310 01:59:19.319 --> 01:59:20.920 in the road or decision you have to make. 2311 01:59:21.840 --> 01:59:24.720 You're on one because it says the upright key meanings 2312 01:59:24.760 --> 01:59:29.239 to the two of One's is choice. So that's interesting. 2313 01:59:29.279 --> 01:59:32.199 So it says a choice to expand your world awaits 2314 01:59:32.279 --> 01:59:34.680 do you stay with what you know or choose the 2315 01:59:34.800 --> 01:59:37.840 unknown adventure. The two of Wand's card is an invitation 2316 01:59:37.920 --> 01:59:40.359 to ponder the future. A man looks out onto the 2317 01:59:40.439 --> 01:59:42.880 vast expanse of land from a position high up in 2318 01:59:42.920 --> 01:59:47.159 his luxurious castle. He he has already established his position 2319 01:59:47.199 --> 01:59:50.079 of stability and now he craves adventure. One wand is 2320 01:59:50.079 --> 01:59:52.760 securely anchored to the castle walls, showing his efforts to 2321 01:59:52.800 --> 01:59:55.760 build his fortune, while the other wand is held above 2322 01:59:55.800 --> 01:59:59.119 his head. In his other hand, he holds a globe 2323 01:59:59.199 --> 02:00:01.479 as if to save the world is in his hands. 2324 02:00:01.720 --> 02:00:04.560 Where will he go next? The two of Lan's signals 2325 02:00:04.560 --> 02:00:07.720 an opportunity to plan for the next exciting phase and 2326 02:00:07.720 --> 02:00:11.560 an already rich and full life. The spiritual message behind 2327 02:00:11.560 --> 02:00:14.600 it is weigh your options before making a big decision 2328 02:00:14.840 --> 02:00:18.239 and heed intuitive guidance in your decision making process. You're 2329 02:00:18.239 --> 02:00:20.600 making plans and taking your goals to the next level 2330 02:00:20.680 --> 02:00:23.600 and phase of life, which is exciting. Your life continues 2331 02:00:23.640 --> 02:00:26.000 to be enriched when you follow a spiritual path and 2332 02:00:26.079 --> 02:00:31.239 explore new directions. So, uh yeah, choice and future plans 2333 02:00:31.800 --> 02:00:36.800 and also the numerology of two equals choice or partnership. 2334 02:00:37.560 --> 02:00:38.199 That's awesome. 2335 02:00:38.720 --> 02:00:42.279 Well, I mean speaking of you know, the new beginnings 2336 02:00:42.479 --> 02:00:46.239 and possible possible partnership. You did start a church and 2337 02:00:46.640 --> 02:00:49.520 you may have new apostles, So. 2338 02:00:50.159 --> 02:00:51.680 Got one more time. 2339 02:00:51.960 --> 02:00:54.239 I got to plan many seeds, and you know not 2340 02:00:54.279 --> 02:00:55.960 all of them are gonna sprout. He's got to make 2341 02:00:55.960 --> 02:01:00.359 a suggestion suggestion, you know, that's all. Yeah, dude, Byron, 2342 02:01:00.399 --> 02:01:03.199 do you have a like a website or anything for 2343 02:01:03.239 --> 02:01:03.880 your church yet? 2344 02:01:05.039 --> 02:01:08.880 No, not yet, but uh, but but that's that's the plan, 2345 02:01:09.039 --> 02:01:12.640 you know, because I don't want especially for the church proper. 2346 02:01:12.760 --> 02:01:14.720 I don't want just a website, want a forum to 2347 02:01:15.439 --> 02:01:18.720 you know, community. But as long as I have a newsletter, 2348 02:01:19.239 --> 02:01:21.680 you know, that'll be fine. But it would be nice 2349 02:01:21.680 --> 02:01:25.079 to have a an actual community, you know. I could 2350 02:01:25.079 --> 02:01:27.199 do that on like Telegram or something else, I guess. 2351 02:01:27.560 --> 02:01:29.439 Yeah, man, when you get that going, man, just let 2352 02:01:29.560 --> 02:01:31.880 us know. Dude. Yeah, I will be out there and 2353 02:01:31.960 --> 02:01:32.640 let the one know. 2354 02:01:33.720 --> 02:01:36.520 When when are you when are you thinking about whenever? 2355 02:01:37.079 --> 02:01:40.479 Like the next steps of actually starting the Patreon and 2356 02:01:40.479 --> 02:01:44.000 starting the the basically internet church at that point, Like 2357 02:01:44.000 --> 02:01:45.359 when when do you plan on starting that? 2358 02:01:45.800 --> 02:01:48.720 Uh? Probably before the end of the year. 2359 02:01:49.039 --> 02:01:50.359 Awesome, Yeah, we'll definitely. 2360 02:01:50.359 --> 02:01:52.479 But I have a lot of stuff coming out. I 2361 02:01:52.520 --> 02:01:57.359 have a bunch of new products, uh coming out. Uh 2362 02:01:58.199 --> 02:02:02.520 one one for become a Living God publishing company, and 2363 02:02:02.560 --> 02:02:08.000 then I have more machines for uh myself and uh 2364 02:02:08.319 --> 02:02:16.880 Jscarrett dot Net and uh and then uh I'm talking 2365 02:02:16.920 --> 02:02:19.199 with someone later this Yeah, so I got I got 2366 02:02:19.239 --> 02:02:22.279 a few things going on. Uh, some things I don't 2367 02:02:22.279 --> 02:02:25.000 want to talk about quite yet until more into the 2368 02:02:25.039 --> 02:02:28.079 fruits of being manifested, you know, the ball going a 2369 02:02:28.079 --> 02:02:30.800 little more. But yeah, I got a lot of stuff 2370 02:02:30.840 --> 02:02:31.520 going on first. 2371 02:02:31.840 --> 02:02:33.720 So but uh, you're a busy man. 2372 02:02:34.479 --> 02:02:38.560 Yeah, and uh, I'm gonna be releasing some really beefed 2373 02:02:38.640 --> 02:02:42.800 up machines here pretty soon. And uh yeah, so so 2374 02:02:42.800 --> 02:02:46.359 so the first thing I got knocked down is uh 2375 02:02:46.399 --> 02:02:50.560 the publishing company become a Living God. And then and 2376 02:02:50.600 --> 02:02:53.720 then I yeah, yeah, I have like six more machines 2377 02:02:53.760 --> 02:02:57.520 and were putting out pretty soon. Uh so I yeah, 2378 02:02:57.640 --> 02:02:59.199 so I got a lot going on as far as 2379 02:02:59.199 --> 02:03:00.279 that new stuff. 2380 02:03:00.399 --> 02:03:02.159 But perfect. 2381 02:03:02.560 --> 02:03:04.800 So as far as that become a living God, You're 2382 02:03:04.840 --> 02:03:08.079 you're saying that you you're starting a publishing company. 2383 02:03:08.760 --> 02:03:15.840 No, that's a colleague of mine. Uh uh uh, I'm 2384 02:03:15.880 --> 02:03:20.680 gonna be building some machines for them. Oh, just like 2385 02:03:20.760 --> 02:03:22.680 for you know that I do for j S. 2386 02:03:23.600 --> 02:03:24.359 Oh perfect. 2387 02:03:24.479 --> 02:03:28.399 So, but the the ones for U become a living 2388 02:03:28.439 --> 02:03:33.640 God are like very specific for them, you know. It's uh, 2389 02:03:33.880 --> 02:03:38.600 they're the only ones that have those ones. So okay, 2390 02:03:38.680 --> 02:03:41.520 very very special. I don't I don't. I don't know 2391 02:03:41.520 --> 02:03:45.319 if I'm at liberty to talk about it yet, but uh, 2392 02:03:45.680 --> 02:03:48.720 but uh, I'll talk to you guys after the show. 2393 02:03:49.840 --> 02:03:51.439 I don't want to talk to you about after the 2394 02:03:51.479 --> 02:03:54.680 show too. I just can't right now, Okay, But yeah, 2395 02:03:54.720 --> 02:03:56.399 I guess we'll wrap it up right there. We'll get 2396 02:03:56.439 --> 02:03:59.720 over to Lord Byron's Guided Meditation, which is always so 2397 02:03:59.840 --> 02:04:02.359 much fun. It was a good time, yeah, dude, So 2398 02:04:02.439 --> 02:04:04.920 thank you Byron for joining us on this one. It 2399 02:04:05.000 --> 02:04:05.520 was a lot of fun. 2400 02:04:05.560 --> 02:04:05.800 Brother. 2401 02:04:05.840 --> 02:04:08.359 We'll see you on the other side and the meditation. 2402 02:04:08.840 --> 02:04:10.760 But if anybody wants to be able to follow us 2403 02:04:10.800 --> 02:04:13.880 and support us and join us, we have several different 2404 02:04:14.159 --> 02:04:15.720 ways of being able to do so. You can come 2405 02:04:15.840 --> 02:04:18.680 check us out on TikTok It's TikTok dot com, slash 2406 02:04:18.720 --> 02:04:23.439 meta Mysteries, also Instagram just We have all those links 2407 02:04:23.479 --> 02:04:25.479 down on the show notes below. But the best way 2408 02:04:25.479 --> 02:04:27.000 to be able to support us would be to go 2409 02:04:27.079 --> 02:04:29.640 to Patreon dot com slash Meta Mysteries. That link is 2410 02:04:29.680 --> 02:04:31.479 down there. If you go over there, you get the 2411 02:04:31.479 --> 02:04:34.199 shows a couple of days in advance. It literally the 2412 02:04:34.359 --> 02:04:36.880 day after we shoot because we shoot at night, so 2413 02:04:36.920 --> 02:04:38.680 we're not going to stay up until three in the 2414 02:04:38.720 --> 02:04:42.039 morning editing. But if you go over there, you literally 2415 02:04:42.039 --> 02:04:45.359 get the show the day after it's after it's shot. 2416 02:04:45.760 --> 02:04:47.479 So if you're interested in that, you want to be 2417 02:04:47.479 --> 02:04:49.159 able to get the shows a couple of days in advance. 2418 02:04:49.239 --> 02:04:51.640 You want to be able to see the video. Of course, 2419 02:04:51.680 --> 02:04:53.439 we do have YouTube if you want to watch the video, 2420 02:04:53.479 --> 02:04:56.520 but sometimes there'd be commercials and interruptions and stuff like 2421 02:04:56.560 --> 02:04:58.720 that over there. That's the great thing about Patreon is 2422 02:04:58.760 --> 02:05:00.720 that it's completely commercial free. Get the shows a couple 2423 02:05:00.720 --> 02:05:03.640 of days in advance and you'll be able to slide 2424 02:05:03.680 --> 02:05:07.159 into our dms. We reply to everything, so we appreciate 2425 02:05:07.199 --> 02:05:08.920 all the one who is supporting us in that way. 2426 02:05:09.399 --> 02:05:11.520 If you don't have the means, or maybe it's just 2427 02:05:11.560 --> 02:05:13.199 not your thing to be able to support us in 2428 02:05:13.239 --> 02:05:15.279 that way, then there are other ways, as I said, 2429 02:05:15.479 --> 02:05:17.920 coming to checking us out on all the different social medias, 2430 02:05:17.960 --> 02:05:20.680 But the next best way would be to go to 2431 02:05:21.800 --> 02:05:24.479 if you're listening to Apple podcasts or Spotify or whatever 2432 02:05:24.520 --> 02:05:27.960 your podcast player is, leave a review, give us five stars, 2433 02:05:28.039 --> 02:05:30.000 you know, tell us. I mean, you can give us 2434 02:05:30.000 --> 02:05:33.920 one star too. That's okay. We're not perfect, but we 2435 02:05:34.000 --> 02:05:36.479 try to be We're aiming for that. But yeah, if 2436 02:05:36.479 --> 02:05:38.720 you would just leave a review, it really helps the 2437 02:05:38.760 --> 02:05:42.399 algorithm big time to help the one find the one. 2438 02:05:42.600 --> 02:05:45.399 That's what it's all about is just finding each other 2439 02:05:45.680 --> 02:05:48.279 and recognizing that it was all an illusion that we 2440 02:05:48.279 --> 02:05:51.520 were split in the first place. So yeah, yeah, definitely 2441 02:05:51.600 --> 02:05:53.680 come check us out and support us in whatever ways 2442 02:05:53.720 --> 02:05:55.960 that you can. We really appreciate the one for doing that. 2443 02:05:56.560 --> 02:05:58.079 But yeah, I guess we're gonna wrap it up there, 2444 02:05:58.119 --> 02:06:00.000 get it of the meditation. It's gonna get a little weird, 2445 02:06:00.039 --> 02:06:02.760 it's gonna get a little wild, it's gonna get I mean, 2446 02:06:02.800 --> 02:06:04.680 fucking Lord Byron Jes Lord Iron. 2447 02:06:05.079 --> 02:06:06.640 Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. 2448 02:06:07.159 --> 02:06:09.760 So uh yeah, I guess with that being said, if 2449 02:06:09.840 --> 02:06:13.039 Lord Byron Jester came here and he taught you anything, 2450 02:06:13.439 --> 02:06:16.960 it's that you don't know what you don't know, So. 2451 02:06:17.000 --> 02:06:22.439 Don't just get weird, stay weird inside. 2452 02:06:22.760 --> 02:06:33.039 You mine ordinary for behind color, soul, the stars, line in. 2453 02:06:33.239 --> 02:06:55.079 The mental mysteries you're finding. They're just sitting and relaxed 2454 02:06:55.119 --> 02:07:01.119 for a second. Like exhale, feel all your muscles, relax, 2455 02:07:02.479 --> 02:07:08.439 feel the muscles in your face, relax, take slow, deep breaths. 2456 02:07:10.319 --> 02:07:13.600 Fill your stomach up like a like a balloon, like 2457 02:07:13.800 --> 02:07:17.720 really fill your stomach up with all that air. And 2458 02:07:17.760 --> 02:07:21.479 when you slowly exhale, excel all that air out of 2459 02:07:21.479 --> 02:07:30.199 your stomach in hell and again, release all your muscles, 2460 02:07:30.279 --> 02:07:37.880 release the tension in your face. Just take a few breaths, 2461 02:07:41.239 --> 02:08:02.680 and every time you excel, just go deeper into relaxation. Okay. Now, 2462 02:08:04.399 --> 02:08:14.000 imagine a white golden light about three to four feet 2463 02:08:14.000 --> 02:08:29.000 above your head. Feel that light shining down on you. 2464 02:08:38.359 --> 02:08:45.560 Visualize an empty sphere right above the crown of your 2465 02:08:45.640 --> 02:08:49.079 head that kind of goes into the crown of your 2466 02:08:49.119 --> 02:08:58.039 head about an inch or two. Now, as we take 2467 02:08:58.079 --> 02:09:02.479 a slow deep breath, see that white golden light from 2468 02:09:02.520 --> 02:09:07.039 above your heads, from the heavens coming down and fill 2469 02:09:07.119 --> 02:09:15.359 that sphere with that white golden light. Take a few 2470 02:09:15.399 --> 02:09:19.079 deep breaths as you inhale, just feel it fill up 2471 02:09:19.680 --> 02:09:25.520 with that white golden light. Now, for this one, we're 2472 02:09:25.520 --> 02:09:31.439 gonna vibrate the name elo heme and we're gonna pronounce 2473 02:09:31.439 --> 02:09:38.279 it a low heme. So take a slow, deep breath, 2474 02:09:39.319 --> 02:09:42.520 feel the light from heaven coming down and filling that 2475 02:09:42.720 --> 02:09:46.960 sphere with that white golden light. And now We're gonna 2476 02:09:47.039 --> 02:10:05.119 vibrate the name low sh And then as we vibrate 2477 02:10:05.159 --> 02:10:10.760 that name, like really visualize and see that sphere of 2478 02:10:10.800 --> 02:10:12.840 white golden light that you're filling up right at the 2479 02:10:12.840 --> 02:10:16.159 crown of your head, not just filling up, but getting 2480 02:10:16.199 --> 02:10:22.640 brighter and activating. Take another slow deep breath, bringing that 2481 02:10:22.760 --> 02:10:24.920 light from heaven into that first sphere of right at 2482 02:10:24.960 --> 02:10:28.920 the crown of the head. I'm gonna vibrate alo him 2483 02:10:29.000 --> 02:11:09.159 again one more time. Hellow Okay, So now we're gonna 2484 02:11:09.159 --> 02:11:19.079 take a few deep breaths. Now, visualize another empty sphere 2485 02:11:19.159 --> 02:11:22.199 right where your throat is. It kind of goes up 2486 02:11:22.239 --> 02:11:24.720 into the mouth a little bit maybe an inch below 2487 02:11:24.800 --> 02:11:29.800 the collarbone, but an empty sphere right where your throat is. 2488 02:11:31.439 --> 02:11:35.159 And now as we take a slow deep breath, as 2489 02:11:35.199 --> 02:11:39.640 we inhale, visualize that white golden light from the heavens 2490 02:11:40.960 --> 02:11:44.640 coming down through the first sphere right the crown chakra, 2491 02:11:45.119 --> 02:11:50.960 coming right through that into the empty throat chakra chakra, 2492 02:11:51.079 --> 02:11:54.640 but the sphere and the throat, and bring that white 2493 02:11:54.720 --> 02:11:58.279 golden light down to fill up that sphere in your throat. 2494 02:12:00.079 --> 02:12:04.279 Take a slow deep breath, build it up with that 2495 02:12:04.439 --> 02:12:09.000 white golden light and now we're gonna vibrate the name 2496 02:12:09.960 --> 02:12:15.760 yode Hay, bob hay, slow deep breath, fill it up 2497 02:12:15.800 --> 02:12:24.520 with that white golden lion yo head. 2498 02:12:27.159 --> 02:12:41.399 Bob Hey, take another slow deep breath, fill it up 2499 02:12:41.439 --> 02:12:42.800 with that white golden light. 2500 02:12:43.720 --> 02:12:45.479 And this time, don't just fill it up with that 2501 02:12:45.560 --> 02:12:49.840 white golden light, really fill that light, intensify and active 2502 02:12:53.359 --> 02:13:35.720 yo head ball one more time. Yoh, okay. Now visualize 2503 02:13:36.239 --> 02:13:46.119 an empty sphere right where your heart center is. And 2504 02:13:46.239 --> 02:13:48.119 now as we take a deep breath, we're bringing that 2505 02:13:48.239 --> 02:13:51.920 white light, that white golden light down from the heavens, 2506 02:13:52.880 --> 02:13:55.319 down through the first sphere of the crown chakra, fully 2507 02:13:55.399 --> 02:13:59.640 let up and activated, through the spine down to the 2508 02:13:59.680 --> 02:14:03.800 sphere at the throat, fully lit up and activate it. 2509 02:14:04.319 --> 02:14:07.079 And we're gonna pass that and go right into this 2510 02:14:07.239 --> 02:14:10.079 empty sphere in the heart and we're just gonna fill 2511 02:14:10.119 --> 02:14:14.119 it up with that white golden light. So take a slow, 2512 02:14:14.159 --> 02:14:22.439 deep breath, fill it up, and this time we're gonna 2513 02:14:22.479 --> 02:14:27.880 vibrate the name. A hey yay m. 2514 02:14:30.680 --> 02:14:38.239 A hey yah. 2515 02:14:44.720 --> 02:14:51.439 Yeah, fill it up that white golden light and really 2516 02:14:51.479 --> 02:15:17.199 fill it, intensify and activate. Oh and looks and do 2517 02:15:17.279 --> 02:15:20.600 it one more time, and the heart center is a 2518 02:15:20.640 --> 02:15:24.000 really important one. So this time when you activated and 2519 02:15:24.079 --> 02:15:28.000 you feel it intensified, like really feel it come out 2520 02:15:28.039 --> 02:15:30.600 of your heart and almost fill the whole room, your 2521 02:15:30.600 --> 02:15:58.119 whole aura, slow deep breath and okay, now visualize you 2522 02:15:58.199 --> 02:16:02.840 have a empty sphere right in your stomach, just a 2523 02:16:02.880 --> 02:16:10.359 few inches like maybe three fingers above your navel, an 2524 02:16:10.359 --> 02:16:13.520 empty sphere right there. So you're gonna take a slow 2525 02:16:13.520 --> 02:16:16.479 deep breath and again bring that white gold and lie 2526 02:16:16.520 --> 02:16:21.520 down from the heavens through your the sphere on your crown, 2527 02:16:22.359 --> 02:16:25.479 fully lit up and activated, down through your spine to 2528 02:16:25.560 --> 02:16:30.359 your throat, fully lit up and activated, down the spine 2529 02:16:31.920 --> 02:16:34.879 right to your heart, fully lit up and activated, and 2530 02:16:35.000 --> 02:16:39.520 down into the empty sphere right in your stomach, right 2531 02:16:39.520 --> 02:16:44.760 around where your liver is. Take a slow deep breath. 2532 02:16:47.239 --> 02:16:50.959 Fill it up with that white golden light. And this 2533 02:16:51.200 --> 02:16:58.200 time we're gonna vibrate the name of God, oh ad, 2534 02:16:58.239 --> 02:17:03.239 don't name. So take a slow deep breath. Fill it 2535 02:17:03.319 --> 02:17:04.479 up with that white golden light. 2536 02:17:07.600 --> 02:17:25.719 Uh do, Take a slow deep breath, deal it up 2537 02:17:25.760 --> 02:17:29.520 with that white golden light, and this time really fill it, 2538 02:17:31.000 --> 02:17:52.399 light up, intensify and activate. Uh uh, just slow deep breath, 2539 02:17:52.479 --> 02:17:55.360 bring that white light down through the center column. 2540 02:17:56.559 --> 02:18:20.600 Fill up the stomach one more time. Okay, now we're 2541 02:18:20.639 --> 02:18:23.959 gonna have visualized and empty sphere like right where the 2542 02:18:24.719 --> 02:18:29.520 grond is, where your root chakra and saquerel chakra are. 2543 02:18:32.559 --> 02:18:35.520 And again we're gonna breathe in. We're gonna bring that 2544 02:18:35.559 --> 02:18:38.719 white golden light down from the heavens through the first 2545 02:18:38.719 --> 02:18:41.959 sphere at the crown of our head, down through the spine, 2546 02:18:43.000 --> 02:18:47.319 through the second sphere in the throat, down the spine 2547 02:18:47.440 --> 02:18:51.559 to the third sphere in the heart, down the spine 2548 02:18:51.840 --> 02:18:54.520 to the fourth sphere in the stomach. All of these 2549 02:18:54.520 --> 02:18:58.200 are gonna be lit up right activated. And then we're 2550 02:18:58.239 --> 02:19:00.319 gonna bring it down past that and fill up an 2551 02:19:00.319 --> 02:19:05.280 empty sphere right in the growing area. So take another 2552 02:19:05.319 --> 02:19:09.680 slow deep breath, fill it up with that white golden light. 2553 02:19:11.280 --> 02:19:13.280 And now we're going to vibrate the name of God 2554 02:19:13.639 --> 02:19:39.360 aga lat Take a slowly breath, Oh God, take a slow, 2555 02:19:39.399 --> 02:19:42.520 deep breath. Fill it up with that white golden light. 2556 02:19:45.920 --> 02:20:02.280 Oh ah, one last time, I really feel it intensify 2557 02:20:02.399 --> 02:20:22.239 and activate. Take a few deep breaths, and bring that 2558 02:20:22.440 --> 02:20:25.319 white golden light all the way through the heavens, all 2559 02:20:25.360 --> 02:20:27.280 the way down your central channel through all of those 2560 02:20:27.280 --> 02:20:30.799 spheres we just activated all the way down into the earth. 2561 02:20:33.959 --> 02:20:36.280 I feel that white golden light as you breathe in 2562 02:20:37.760 --> 02:20:41.959 in goal for your whole body, maybe about three feet 2563 02:20:42.360 --> 02:20:49.159 four foot diameter around you. I'll start breathing in that 2564 02:20:49.200 --> 02:20:53.799 white golden light, slow deep breath through every single pore 2565 02:20:53.840 --> 02:20:57.639 in your body. So breathe in this white golden light 2566 02:20:57.799 --> 02:21:20.719 omni directionally through every pore in the bow. Now we're 2567 02:21:20.760 --> 02:21:24.000 gonna take a few of those deep breaths and bring 2568 02:21:24.040 --> 02:21:27.120 that white golden light. Concentrate it to right at the 2569 02:21:27.159 --> 02:21:33.559 base of the spine. Now as we take a slow, 2570 02:21:33.600 --> 02:21:37.479 deep breath, we're gonna bring that white golden light from 2571 02:21:37.520 --> 02:21:40.600 the base of our spine, from the tailbone, all the 2572 02:21:40.600 --> 02:21:43.719 way up our central channel, going up the spine. And 2573 02:21:43.719 --> 02:21:47.680 then as we exhale, it's gonna break the crown in 2574 02:21:47.840 --> 02:21:53.799 cascade and waterfall around your whole aura. Take a slow, 2575 02:21:53.840 --> 02:22:02.360 deep breath, slowly bring it up the spine. H exhale 2576 02:22:03.719 --> 02:22:06.760 waterfall and cascade all around you, this white golden light. 2577 02:22:11.079 --> 02:22:17.959 Take a deep breath, bring it up the spine, exhale 2578 02:22:19.440 --> 02:22:23.760 waterfall all around you. And this time the next couple 2579 02:22:23.719 --> 02:22:27.600 of times we do this, Let's really pay attention and 2580 02:22:27.639 --> 02:22:31.680 feel for any type of energetic blockages and do your 2581 02:22:31.680 --> 02:22:36.959 best to break through those blockages. So take a slow, 2582 02:22:37.000 --> 02:23:05.559 deep breath, exhale. Do that a few more times. Okay, 2583 02:23:06.440 --> 02:23:12.200 So now we're gonna call on the angels in each 2584 02:23:12.239 --> 02:23:15.680 of those spears with the elements. So the first one 2585 02:23:15.719 --> 02:23:18.280 we're gonna call on is gonna be Metatron at the crown, 2586 02:23:19.879 --> 02:23:23.239 and then it's gonna be Raphael for air at the throat, 2587 02:23:24.040 --> 02:23:29.319 Gabriel for water at the heart, Michael or meek Iel 2588 02:23:30.239 --> 02:23:35.520 at the stomach or the liver for fire, and er 2589 02:23:35.600 --> 02:23:40.799 A L at the in the grind for Earth. And 2590 02:23:40.879 --> 02:23:44.840 so it's just gonna be white for Metatron and the 2591 02:23:44.840 --> 02:23:50.399 spirits of Ether, yellow for Raphael and the spirits of Air, 2592 02:23:54.159 --> 02:23:57.319 blue for water for Gabriel and the spirits of Water, 2593 02:23:58.799 --> 02:24:02.479 red for meek i L and the spirits of Fire. 2594 02:24:03.280 --> 02:24:06.040 And uh, I think, just for now, I think green 2595 02:24:06.120 --> 02:24:09.319 will do for the Earth. Some people will do brown 2596 02:24:09.520 --> 02:24:13.000 green or like a hazel kind of color. Let's just 2597 02:24:13.040 --> 02:24:16.799 do green at the groin for her A L and 2598 02:24:16.840 --> 02:24:24.399 the spirits of Earth. Okay, so we're just gonna take 2599 02:24:24.399 --> 02:24:27.479 a slow, deep breath, feel that first sphere at the 2600 02:24:27.479 --> 02:24:33.559 top of the crown. But the white light. Now we're 2601 02:24:33.600 --> 02:24:52.319 just gonna vibrate Metatron's name, Man Troe. When more time 2602 02:24:52.399 --> 02:25:11.840 filling with the white light, Man Troll. One more slow 2603 02:25:11.879 --> 02:25:16.440 deep breath developed that white light, Man. 2604 02:25:20.639 --> 02:25:20.959 True. 2605 02:25:28.760 --> 02:25:34.440 Now take a few deep breaths and visualize Metatron right 2606 02:25:34.520 --> 02:25:38.280 above your head, and we're just gonna do a short 2607 02:25:38.280 --> 02:25:41.319 little invocation for him in the spirits of ether. So 2608 02:25:41.399 --> 02:25:44.520 take a slow, deep breath. Visualize Medatron right above your 2609 02:25:44.520 --> 02:25:48.920 head with a bunch of protective spirits all around him, 2610 02:25:49.440 --> 02:25:55.280 all around you. I'm just gonna call upon I call 2611 02:25:55.399 --> 02:25:59.000 upon Metatron, the guardian of the heavens. Open up your gate, 2612 02:25:59.040 --> 02:26:01.079 and with the spirits of bay Thor flow through me. 2613 02:26:04.319 --> 02:26:07.559 Now for this for the next four I guess it'll 2614 02:26:07.600 --> 02:26:12.440 be good to know what direction you're looking. If you know, 2615 02:26:12.479 --> 02:26:20.559 we're northeast, south and west there. If not, just do 2616 02:26:20.680 --> 02:26:27.040 your best. So now we're gonna breathe in, and then 2617 02:26:27.719 --> 02:26:30.879 as we exhale, we're gonna feel the sphere in the 2618 02:26:30.920 --> 02:26:35.840 throat up with a yellow light. And this is going 2619 02:26:35.920 --> 02:26:40.360 to have the characteristics of air. So as we've begin 2620 02:26:40.440 --> 02:26:43.799 to activate it, make sure you really hone in on 2621 02:26:43.840 --> 02:26:49.639 the element of air and you know intelligence, clairvoyance, communication, 2622 02:26:50.079 --> 02:26:54.639 all those airy attributes. So take a slow, deep breath, 2623 02:26:56.319 --> 02:27:02.440 fill that sphere up with the yellow element of air. 2624 02:27:04.120 --> 02:27:11.159 And now we're gonna vibrate Raphael's name. M h. Grow. 2625 02:27:24.120 --> 02:27:28.280 Really feel that air element intensify. 2626 02:27:31.319 --> 02:27:31.559 Raw. 2627 02:27:42.120 --> 02:27:44.399 Now with this one almost filled, the whole room, fill 2628 02:27:44.520 --> 02:28:03.600 up with the air element. Grow. Now, if you know 2629 02:28:03.639 --> 02:28:07.719 which the cardinal directions are, which way you're facing, Visualize 2630 02:28:07.799 --> 02:28:13.639 Raphael standing in the east with the air flowing all 2631 02:28:13.639 --> 02:28:17.159 around them, the yellow color and the air flowing all 2632 02:28:17.200 --> 02:28:20.040 around them, with a bunch of the spirits of air 2633 02:28:21.760 --> 02:28:25.159 all around you protecting you. And now we're just gonna 2634 02:28:25.200 --> 02:28:32.120 do a quick little invocation. I call upon Raphael, the 2635 02:28:32.159 --> 02:28:35.000 Guardian of the yeast, open up your gate and let 2636 02:28:35.040 --> 02:28:43.639 the spirits of air flow through me. Okay, So now 2637 02:28:43.680 --> 02:28:46.719 we're going down to the heart. We're gonna fill it 2638 02:28:46.799 --> 02:28:49.600 up with the blue light for the element of water. 2639 02:28:50.200 --> 02:28:53.159 And as you begin to activate it, really hone into 2640 02:28:53.200 --> 02:29:00.719 those water attributes and motion intuition, the astral realm uh 2641 02:29:00.920 --> 02:29:07.600 feminine principles. Take a slow, deep breath, fill that sphere 2642 02:29:07.680 --> 02:29:12.399 up with the blue light. And now we're gonna vibrate 2643 02:29:12.440 --> 02:29:34.079 the name gabriel Go breathe, y know, let water intensify. 2644 02:29:35.639 --> 02:29:40.120 Take a deep breath, make that blue light brighter, stronger, 2645 02:29:40.799 --> 02:29:58.760 more activated. God breathe. Ah. Now we're gonna do one 2646 02:29:58.799 --> 02:30:01.959 more time, and this time, when we vibrate Gabrielle's name, 2647 02:30:03.159 --> 02:30:07.799 fill the whole room, fill up with the elemental powers 2648 02:30:07.840 --> 02:30:15.399 of water, that blue light, emotions, intuition, national projection, feminine 2649 02:30:16.159 --> 02:30:17.159 like a deep breath. 2650 02:30:19.000 --> 02:30:27.200 Ah. 2651 02:30:33.440 --> 02:30:38.319 Now visualize the archangel Gabrielle standing in the west with 2652 02:30:38.440 --> 02:30:40.799 a bunch of that water element behind him, and all 2653 02:30:40.840 --> 02:30:46.479 around him the spirits of the water. They're protecting you 2654 02:30:46.559 --> 02:30:53.319 and filling the room. I call upon gabriel the Guardian 2655 02:30:53.360 --> 02:30:55.799 of the West, open up your gate, and let the 2656 02:30:55.840 --> 02:31:04.120 spirits of water flow through me. Okay, so now we're 2657 02:31:04.120 --> 02:31:07.159 gonna come down to the stomach. This time we're gonna 2658 02:31:07.200 --> 02:31:10.719 be channeling the fire element, says you take a slow, 2659 02:31:10.719 --> 02:31:14.760 deep breath, fill it up with that fiery red light 2660 02:31:16.479 --> 02:31:20.200 and really holding in on the fire element like willpower, 2661 02:31:23.040 --> 02:31:27.879 you know, force, masculinity, you know, like really focus on 2662 02:31:28.079 --> 02:31:33.120 those fire elements. And for this one, we're gonna vibrate 2663 02:31:33.200 --> 02:31:37.680 the name Michael, which is meek l. Take a slow, 2664 02:31:37.719 --> 02:31:41.639 deep breath. Fill it up with that bright red fiery light, 2665 02:31:45.239 --> 02:32:03.440 me god, m hm. Take a deep breath. Fill it 2666 02:32:03.440 --> 02:32:06.639 over that bright red light. And as we vibrate Michael, 2667 02:32:06.719 --> 02:32:23.680 really feel that light intensify me ca mm hmmm. And 2668 02:32:23.760 --> 02:32:30.319 this time field that fire like fill the whole room. 2669 02:32:30.520 --> 02:32:37.799 Feel that creative force, destructive force will power might courage 2670 02:32:40.879 --> 02:33:01.399 me ca it. Take a few breaths. Visualize Michael standing 2671 02:33:01.440 --> 02:33:05.040 in the south with a bunch of the fire element 2672 02:33:05.120 --> 02:33:08.799 and the color red all behind him. Fill in the room, 2673 02:33:08.840 --> 02:33:13.200 and a bunch of the elemental spirits of fire all 2674 02:33:13.239 --> 02:33:24.079 around you, protecting you. I call upon Mikail, the guardian 2675 02:33:24.159 --> 02:33:27.120 of the South. Open up your gain, Let the spirits 2676 02:33:27.120 --> 02:33:33.840 of fire flow through me. Okay, now focus on the 2677 02:33:33.920 --> 02:33:37.280 sphere right at the groin. I'm gonna take a slow, 2678 02:33:37.319 --> 02:33:42.280 deep breath. We're gonna fill it with a green light. 2679 02:33:46.680 --> 02:33:52.719 And this time we're gonna vibrate the name er ree l. 2680 02:33:57.440 --> 02:34:00.319 Er h. 2681 02:34:10.520 --> 02:34:18.399 M hm. Take a slow, deep breath, feel that light. 2682 02:34:18.559 --> 02:34:33.319 Really intensify that green light m hm. Can do that 2683 02:34:33.360 --> 02:34:35.360 one more time. This time we're gonna fill the whole 2684 02:34:35.440 --> 02:34:39.120 room up with the color of green and the Earth 2685 02:34:39.159 --> 02:34:43.600 element you could probably visualize like trees and vines everywhere. 2686 02:34:45.040 --> 02:34:50.799 And we're gonna charge that sphere one more time. Er, 2687 02:35:06.559 --> 02:35:14.040 take a few slow, deep breaths and visualize the archangel 2688 02:35:14.079 --> 02:35:19.600 Aeriel standing in the north, the color green behind them, 2689 02:35:20.360 --> 02:35:27.799 the Earth element behind him, that grounding fertility, prosperous energy, 2690 02:35:28.479 --> 02:35:31.920 a bunch of Earth spirits filling the whole room and 2691 02:35:32.000 --> 02:35:40.399 protecting you. I call upon our Reel, the guardian of 2692 02:35:40.440 --> 02:35:43.040 the North. Open up your gate and look the spirits 2693 02:35:43.040 --> 02:35:47.799 of Earth flow through me. Now we're gonna hold on 2694 02:35:47.879 --> 02:35:50.920 to all of the angels. We're gonna visualize all the 2695 02:35:51.000 --> 02:35:55.799 angels in their cardinals, in their directions, protecting us. To 2696 02:35:55.879 --> 02:35:57.559 take a few deep breaths, we're gonna vis you know, 2697 02:35:57.639 --> 02:36:02.360 we got Metatron and the spirits of ether looking down 2698 02:36:02.399 --> 02:36:07.399 on us from the heavens protecting us. We have Raphael 2699 02:36:07.520 --> 02:36:12.200 in the ease with the spirits of air protecting us, 2700 02:36:13.840 --> 02:36:19.799 Gabriel in the West with the spirits of water protecting us, 2701 02:36:19.799 --> 02:36:23.360 meek I l in the South with the spirits of 2702 02:36:23.399 --> 02:36:27.479 fire protecting us, ere Al in the North with the 2703 02:36:27.520 --> 02:36:35.319 spirits of Earth protecting us. Not just visualize pentagrams right 2704 02:36:35.360 --> 02:36:38.399 in front of all of these angels of white golden 2705 02:36:38.479 --> 02:36:41.920 light right side of pentagrams, and we're just gonna banish 2706 02:36:41.959 --> 02:36:45.479 any negative energy that's still upt in the room. So 2707 02:36:45.600 --> 02:36:52.680 just visualize the archangels and creating those pentagrams all around you, 2708 02:36:53.639 --> 02:36:58.520 one in each cardinal direction, and we're just gonna say 2709 02:37:00.959 --> 02:37:07.079 about me flames the pentagram the way you profane, and 2710 02:37:07.280 --> 02:37:10.760 just visualize any leftover negative energy in the room just 2711 02:37:10.920 --> 02:37:15.879 being expelled, banished from sight. The whole room's filled with 2712 02:37:15.879 --> 02:37:19.120 a white golden light now, so now really see that 2713 02:37:19.239 --> 02:37:21.920 white golden light from the beginning of the meditation from 2714 02:37:21.920 --> 02:37:25.639 the heavens filling the whole place. And we're just going 2715 02:37:25.719 --> 02:37:29.559 to breathe in that white golden light through every poor 2716 02:37:29.600 --> 02:37:33.239 in the body. And as we do this, every breath, 2717 02:37:33.280 --> 02:37:36.760 feel that white golden light expand further out past your body, 2718 02:37:38.559 --> 02:37:43.000 out past your aura. Fill the whole room just fills 2719 02:37:43.079 --> 02:37:58.680 up with this white gold and purifying light above me 2720 02:37:58.799 --> 02:38:02.280 shines the sixth rates. Darter, Maybe this temple be blessed 2721 02:38:02.280 --> 02:38:13.719 and made pure, so mould it be? Okay, take a 2722 02:38:13.760 --> 02:38:17.920 few deep breaths and really take in that white golden light, 2723 02:38:18.319 --> 02:38:20.959 make sure the whole room is purified by this point. 2724 02:38:22.079 --> 02:38:26.200 If you feel confident with this, you might be able 2725 02:38:26.280 --> 02:38:28.719 to expand it even further and clean your whole house 2726 02:38:29.120 --> 02:38:31.280 or your whole apartment and just fill it with the 2727 02:38:31.319 --> 02:38:37.040 white purifying light. Okay, So now we're going to do 2728 02:38:38.159 --> 02:38:43.399 a really simple but short exercise from Basic Psychic Development 2729 02:38:43.440 --> 02:38:46.000 by John Fried Lambert. It's actually the very first exercise 2730 02:38:46.000 --> 02:38:51.200 in the book. I believe what we're going to do 2731 02:38:51.360 --> 02:38:55.000 is we're going to try to get rid of a negative, 2732 02:38:55.040 --> 02:38:58.959 stored emotion that we're holding on too from our past. 2733 02:38:59.799 --> 02:39:01.840 So I want you just took a few deep breaths, 2734 02:39:02.520 --> 02:39:05.639 and I want you to try and think of a 2735 02:39:05.719 --> 02:39:13.159 time when something gave you like really bad anxiety, or 2736 02:39:13.840 --> 02:39:16.120 think back when like a negative emotion at a time 2737 02:39:16.600 --> 02:39:19.319 of a situation where you felt really negatively about it. 2738 02:39:20.600 --> 02:39:22.639 And it doesn't have to be a big one at first. 2739 02:39:22.680 --> 02:39:27.600 You can start off with something small, you know, like 2740 02:39:27.719 --> 02:39:29.879 maybe you were rude to someone you shouldn't have been 2741 02:39:29.920 --> 02:39:32.319 rude to. Maybe someone was rude to you and they 2742 02:39:32.319 --> 02:39:38.559 shouldn't have been rude to you. But just recall a 2743 02:39:38.639 --> 02:39:42.120 simple basic memory from your past that you're still holding 2744 02:39:42.159 --> 02:39:49.840 on to. That's giving you anxiety and possibly holding you back. Okay, 2745 02:39:49.959 --> 02:39:53.319 So as we breathe in, breathe in that white golden 2746 02:39:53.399 --> 02:39:56.399 light again through every pore in the body, and as 2747 02:39:56.440 --> 02:40:01.159 you breathe in, try to think of what there was 2748 02:40:01.239 --> 02:40:04.719 to learn from that situation, What you what? What you 2749 02:40:05.040 --> 02:40:08.399 what you've learned from that situation. So take a slow, 2750 02:40:08.440 --> 02:40:13.040 deep breath, taking all the knowledge and wisdom that was 2751 02:40:13.079 --> 02:40:15.920 gained from that event or could be gained from that event, 2752 02:40:18.319 --> 02:40:21.840 And as you excel, you're just gonna release it and 2753 02:40:22.000 --> 02:40:26.440 let it go and get rid of it. It takes 2754 02:40:26.440 --> 02:40:32.840 a slow, deep breath breathing that white golden light, think 2755 02:40:32.879 --> 02:40:36.000 about all the wisdom and knowledge, everything that was to 2756 02:40:36.079 --> 02:40:41.120 learn from that event, And as you excel, you're just 2757 02:40:41.120 --> 02:40:43.680 gonna let it go and fill that out of your event. 2758 02:40:43.840 --> 02:40:46.200 Just go away, Just get it out of your aura, 2759 02:40:46.920 --> 02:40:55.079 get it out of your energetic body. You then fill 2760 02:40:55.120 --> 02:40:57.479 your whole aura up with that white golden light. Really 2761 02:40:57.520 --> 02:41:01.000 purify all of that, think about all the knowledge and 2762 02:41:01.040 --> 02:41:08.719 wisdom with the gain from it. And as you exhale, 2763 02:41:08.719 --> 02:41:14.200 you're just gonna banish all that negative energy, all that 2764 02:41:14.239 --> 02:41:16.159 stuff you're holding on to that you don't need to 2765 02:41:16.920 --> 02:41:21.040 banishing it for good, banishing it from your aura, from 2766 02:41:21.079 --> 02:41:25.840 your energy body. Just do this a few more times. 2767 02:41:25.879 --> 02:41:28.280 I can feel some things not wanting to let go 2768 02:41:31.040 --> 02:41:40.000 my golden light, knowledge, wisdom, everything that you've learned. Exhale, 2769 02:41:41.399 --> 02:42:08.760 just banish it. Okay, I can still feel something holding 2770 02:42:08.760 --> 02:42:13.639 onto someone out there. Let's really try to get it 2771 02:42:13.680 --> 02:42:16.600 out this time as we inhale. Instead of bringing that 2772 02:42:16.600 --> 02:42:19.159 white lighte from every poor in the body, let's bring 2773 02:42:19.200 --> 02:42:21.840 it down from the heavens, that white golden light, and 2774 02:42:21.920 --> 02:42:25.360 we're just gonna have it push out any negative energy 2775 02:42:27.159 --> 02:42:30.079 all through our or take it a deep breath and 2776 02:42:30.200 --> 02:42:35.120 just feel any of that gunk chain shackles, it might 2777 02:42:35.159 --> 02:42:39.399 be a cord or a rope attaching you to that event. 2778 02:42:40.040 --> 02:42:42.440 To take a deep breath, and we're just gonna force 2779 02:42:42.600 --> 02:42:53.000 all that stuff out down through our legs and then exhale, 2780 02:42:54.639 --> 02:42:58.840 banish it. Take another deep breath, bring that white golden 2781 02:42:59.000 --> 02:43:02.319 light all the way down for your crown and force 2782 02:43:02.520 --> 02:43:05.799 any of that negative energy. Really pay attention to your 2783 02:43:05.920 --> 02:43:10.920 or where it is, get it all the way out, 2784 02:43:11.040 --> 02:43:17.559 all the way down to your feet. The next hell, 2785 02:43:17.639 --> 02:43:21.760 and banish it for good. We're gonna do that one 2786 02:43:21.760 --> 02:43:50.680 more time. You banish it for good. You can a 2787 02:43:50.680 --> 02:43:59.000 few slottle deep breaths. Purify your aura, Purify your own 2788 02:44:00.920 --> 02:44:03.840 if you're savvy enough, purify your house. Just breathing that 2789 02:44:03.840 --> 02:44:08.520 white golden light. Purify everything. Exhale, get rid of everything. 2790 02:44:09.079 --> 02:44:20.840 Take a few deep breaths. Okay, yeah, I think I 2791 02:44:20.879 --> 02:44:24.559 think that's good, man. I think whoever was holding onto that, 2792 02:44:24.639 --> 02:44:35.040 I think we got got it out and I feel 2793 02:44:35.040 --> 02:44:36.920 a lot better. I just better turn my camera on. 2794 02:44:37.639 --> 02:44:39.719 I kind of feel like I should deep, dude, I 2795 02:44:39.760 --> 02:44:40.000 kind of. 2796 02:44:40.000 --> 02:44:41.639 Feel like I should have had the camera on. Man. Like, 2797 02:44:41.680 --> 02:44:43.600 halfway through it, I was like, man, but I didn't 2798 02:44:43.600 --> 02:44:45.719 want to turn it on on. Halfway through it, I 2799 02:44:45.760 --> 02:44:47.840 kind of felt like I should have had the camera on. Dude. 2800 02:44:48.360 --> 02:44:51.079 Oh that's all good, dude. That was to us where 2801 02:44:51.159 --> 02:44:52.159 we needed to go. Man. 2802 02:44:52.879 --> 02:44:56.799 Yeah, but I just got to say, like, whenever you 2803 02:44:56.840 --> 02:44:59.319 were calling upon the angels and stuff like that, I 2804 02:44:59.360 --> 02:45:01.520 was like, God, I love your Byron. 2805 02:45:04.360 --> 02:45:06.079 Yeah good thinking the same thing. 2806 02:45:06.479 --> 02:45:08.719 Yeah, I could. I could feel it activating in other people, 2807 02:45:08.799 --> 02:45:10.440 you know. That's why when I was doing the last part, 2808 02:45:10.520 --> 02:45:13.360 breathing out that that negative attachment to that, to that 2809 02:45:13.440 --> 02:45:16.959 memory to the moment I could feel someone having trouble 2810 02:45:16.959 --> 02:45:17.959 getting rid of it, so. 2811 02:45:19.399 --> 02:45:22.280 That might have been me I was having because I 2812 02:45:22.319 --> 02:45:27.079 wanted to go to the deepest, darkest, most like level 2813 02:45:27.719 --> 02:45:32.239 yeah from childhood, you know, which is usually the darkest stuff, 2814 02:45:33.040 --> 02:45:33.280 you know. 2815 02:45:33.319 --> 02:45:36.959 Like that uh, that meditation man with the angels and stuff. 2816 02:45:36.959 --> 02:45:39.840 Because you're packing the room full of spirits. And you know, 2817 02:45:39.879 --> 02:45:42.920 if you do like a like a spell or something 2818 02:45:42.959 --> 02:45:46.840 after that, or an evocation or something, it's so much 2819 02:45:46.879 --> 02:45:48.719 more powerful, you know, because you got so you know, 2820 02:45:49.959 --> 02:45:52.120 you just packed the room with spirits. You got rid 2821 02:45:52.159 --> 02:45:55.319 of all your junk holding you back. You know, all 2822 02:45:55.360 --> 02:45:58.280 your psychic senses are basically starting to activate, so you're 2823 02:45:58.280 --> 02:46:01.000 a lot more in tune magically. So it's a good 2824 02:46:01.000 --> 02:46:03.559 one man. And and you know it's it's universally, you know, 2825 02:46:03.600 --> 02:46:06.520 you can swap out the angels for like the Greek gods, 2826 02:46:06.719 --> 02:46:09.479 or you just gotta you just gotta associate the elements 2827 02:46:09.479 --> 02:46:12.840 with it, or or the demons. 2828 02:46:12.399 --> 02:46:17.760 Or oh yeah, definitely, I definitely felt the sense that 2829 02:46:17.799 --> 02:46:20.440 this room was was not just me in here, you 2830 02:46:20.520 --> 02:46:22.280 know what I mean. I definitely had that sense like 2831 02:46:22.319 --> 02:46:25.159 the room got a little more crowded, you know, in 2832 02:46:25.200 --> 02:46:25.719 a good way. 2833 02:46:26.399 --> 02:46:29.280 Yeah, I felt the same way. That was, man, that. 2834 02:46:29.319 --> 02:46:32.319 Was so good. Like I'm still trying to come back. 2835 02:46:32.399 --> 02:46:36.559 To be honest with you. I feel like Neo using 2836 02:46:36.559 --> 02:46:39.079 his eyes for the first time, you know, yeah, what 2837 02:46:39.360 --> 02:46:41.799 my eyes hurt, So the first time you're using them, 2838 02:46:41.840 --> 02:46:42.000 you know. 2839 02:46:42.639 --> 02:46:44.680 Yeah, it's like it's like coming out of a d 2840 02:46:44.840 --> 02:46:46.360 MT trip. You know. It's like you know, you're back 2841 02:46:46.399 --> 02:46:48.079 to normal and you're out of that realm, but you 2842 02:46:48.120 --> 02:46:51.799 still feel like one foot in, you know, still kind 2843 02:46:51.799 --> 02:46:52.760 of got that all going. 2844 02:46:53.440 --> 02:46:57.559 Yeah, noh, ship dude, damn thanks man. That was great, man. 2845 02:46:57.840 --> 02:46:58.760 I appreciate that. 2846 02:46:58.920 --> 02:46:59.840 Yeah, it was really good. 2847 02:47:00.360 --> 02:47:01.200 Quite a service. 2848 02:47:02.319 --> 02:47:04.159 Yeah. I thought I thought about like cleaning the ore 2849 02:47:04.280 --> 02:47:07.719 again and sending it all back to the senders, but 2850 02:47:08.760 --> 02:47:12.600 I thought the shadow Work one was probably more important. 2851 02:47:13.000 --> 02:47:15.479 Something told something, something told me to do that one. 2852 02:47:15.879 --> 02:47:18.159 I feel like it's the thing that that we just 2853 02:47:18.319 --> 02:47:21.600 intuitively avoid, you know, it's just you don't want to 2854 02:47:21.639 --> 02:47:24.799 go there, you know, But I think that we needed 2855 02:47:24.799 --> 02:47:27.120 to go there, man. So I appreciate you you calling 2856 02:47:27.200 --> 02:47:30.840 that out man, and making that judgment call, because that was, uh, 2857 02:47:31.040 --> 02:47:33.719 that was wonderful. Man. I feel pretty good. 2858 02:47:35.000 --> 02:47:39.520 Yeah, dude, Byron, you are the man, and uh I 2859 02:47:39.559 --> 02:47:42.559 think next time will definitely not be three months from now. 2860 02:47:43.000 --> 02:47:46.959 Okay, yeah, you know, uh that's just ridiculous. 2861 02:47:47.520 --> 02:47:52.440 Let let me talk to uh uh the guy I'm 2862 02:47:52.559 --> 02:47:56.319 uh going to be building those machines for, because I 2863 02:47:56.319 --> 02:47:58.879 think we should get him on, because because because he's uh, 2864 02:47:59.360 --> 02:48:02.440 he's colleagues and friends with JS and Lighton and all 2865 02:48:02.479 --> 02:48:05.440 those guys, you know. So so we're all kind of 2866 02:48:05.440 --> 02:48:08.040 like in the same circle, even though I'm like the 2867 02:48:08.079 --> 02:48:08.680 new guy, you. 2868 02:48:08.639 --> 02:48:13.840 Know, but that sounds interesting. Yeah, yeah, all the guys 2869 02:48:13.840 --> 02:48:16.360 you've brought on, you know. Yeah, the past man, it's 2870 02:48:16.399 --> 02:48:17.319 been pretty interesting. 2871 02:48:18.799 --> 02:48:20.639 He's probably asleep now, but I hit him up tomorrow. He's 2872 02:48:20.680 --> 02:48:24.159 here in Utah too, He's down in southern southwest Utah. 2873 02:48:24.399 --> 02:48:28.719 Okay, yeah, we're We're available every Monday and Wednesday night. 2874 02:48:28.760 --> 02:48:32.399 We have our said, our schedule, uh schedule set for 2875 02:48:32.479 --> 02:48:35.399 every Monday and Wednesday night. So whatever one best for 2876 02:48:35.479 --> 02:48:37.120 you and him, then we have that up. 2877 02:48:37.280 --> 02:48:39.239 See. See. I like that, you know because like the 2878 02:48:39.280 --> 02:48:41.479 closest things the patrons that I have, So Mondays for 2879 02:48:41.559 --> 02:48:45.319 the moon, Wednesdays for Mercury, right, and uh, Hecatay and 2880 02:48:45.360 --> 02:48:48.079 Hermes are like my favorite spirits to pretty much work with. 2881 02:48:48.159 --> 02:48:49.959 Hecitay and Hermes says the moon. 2882 02:48:50.360 --> 02:48:52.799 You know a lot of people were Mercury lately. 2883 02:48:53.200 --> 02:48:56.559 Oh, yeah, she's super popular. Left hand path and right 2884 02:48:56.559 --> 02:49:00.200 hand path people like her, so she's pretty marketable like that. 2885 02:49:00.239 --> 02:49:00.760 I don't know. 2886 02:49:00.799 --> 02:49:03.040 He's a triple headed goddess? Is that the one that 2887 02:49:03.040 --> 02:49:03.600 I'm thinking of? 2888 02:49:03.920 --> 02:49:06.360 Yeah, there's also a double headed single headed version, but yeah, 2889 02:49:06.440 --> 02:49:07.600 triple head of goddess. 2890 02:49:07.920 --> 02:49:08.239 Damn. 2891 02:49:08.799 --> 02:49:10.280 So people are kind of rass. 2892 02:49:10.600 --> 02:49:13.840 Someone is that? Like Mother mad and Crone also encompassed 2893 02:49:13.840 --> 02:49:14.399 within that. 2894 02:49:16.680 --> 02:49:18.120 I think I think it's different than I think. It's 2895 02:49:18.159 --> 02:49:21.440 more like the uh, like the trifle, crossworlds like the 2896 02:49:22.479 --> 02:49:26.319 like like a heaven, Earth and the underworld. 2897 02:49:27.479 --> 02:49:33.799 Interesting interesting within that meditation, dude, I started to see like, 2898 02:49:34.120 --> 02:49:36.000 and it's happened to me before, but this was like 2899 02:49:36.639 --> 02:49:39.280 a lot more interesting than usual. I kept seeing these 2900 02:49:39.319 --> 02:49:42.200 three things popping into my field of view, and it 2901 02:49:42.280 --> 02:49:44.959 was like at one point they were like one would 2902 02:49:45.040 --> 02:49:46.959 pop in and then the other one would dissipate. This 2903 02:49:47.000 --> 02:49:48.600 one would pop in, and then there was another one 2904 02:49:48.760 --> 02:49:51.280 the the other lower corner that would pop in it 2905 02:49:51.319 --> 02:49:53.639 was just like kept going like that. It was almost 2906 02:49:53.639 --> 02:49:57.000 like they were trying to present themselves to me in 2907 02:49:57.079 --> 02:49:58.840 some sort of way to let me know that there 2908 02:49:58.879 --> 02:50:00.920 was some sort of intelligence it's behind it, you know 2909 02:50:00.959 --> 02:50:02.719 what I mean. I don't know. I couldn't tell what 2910 02:50:02.760 --> 02:50:04.920 I was looking at, but there was a there was 2911 02:50:04.959 --> 02:50:07.000 three of them. 2912 02:50:07.120 --> 02:50:11.799 There's something magical about just the resonance whenever you're humming 2913 02:50:12.159 --> 02:50:14.879 like that, like oh yeah with the uh what is 2914 02:50:14.920 --> 02:50:18.719 it the Gateway tapes. It's about the resonance whenever you're 2915 02:50:18.760 --> 02:50:22.639 like syncing up and especially you know, hearing you hum 2916 02:50:22.680 --> 02:50:25.520 in my micro or in my headphones and then me 2917 02:50:25.719 --> 02:50:29.879 humming along with you. It's like almost like an echoe 2918 02:50:29.959 --> 02:50:33.559 and internal hum resonating at the same time. I thought 2919 02:50:33.600 --> 02:50:34.399 that was really cool. 2920 02:50:35.799 --> 02:50:39.799 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2921 02:50:39.879 --> 02:50:41.840 I like to do it pretty slow and kind of 2922 02:50:41.920 --> 02:50:44.840 basy too, you know. I think that kind of helps, 2923 02:50:44.920 --> 02:50:46.399 but you can tell. Like the first one I did, 2924 02:50:46.440 --> 02:50:47.680 I was like, oh, that's a little too fast. You 2925 02:50:47.760 --> 02:50:49.079 gotta slow that down a little bit. 2926 02:50:51.000 --> 02:50:51.520 That was great. 2927 02:50:52.440 --> 02:50:54.479 Yeah, you know what you're doing Byron? 2928 02:50:55.040 --> 02:50:58.440 Oh? Thanks? Yeah, it's fun, man, it's fun. You know. 2929 02:50:58.920 --> 02:51:01.120 It's like, uh, like playing music or something. 2930 02:51:01.159 --> 02:51:05.319 You know yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well all right, Byron. 2931 02:51:05.399 --> 02:51:07.879 I mean this was awesome, dude, and uh, we'll definitely 2932 02:51:07.920 --> 02:51:10.559 make it happen again. And uh, for anybody that wants 2933 02:51:10.600 --> 02:51:12.000 to be able to reach out to you, we'll have 2934 02:51:12.040 --> 02:51:15.440 your links, uh down the show notes. And yeah they 2935 02:51:15.479 --> 02:51:17.520 want to come and check out your store or anything 2936 02:51:17.559 --> 02:51:18.840 like that, we'll have that down there. 2937 02:51:19.239 --> 02:51:21.760 Oh sweet. And uh yeah, if you'd like to make 2938 02:51:21.799 --> 02:51:24.920 a taxiductible donation to my religious nonprofit. 2939 02:51:26.520 --> 02:51:30.360 A church, yeah, yeah. 2940 02:51:30.000 --> 02:51:32.520 So I gotta I just yeah, I gotta get that going. 2941 02:51:32.559 --> 02:51:34.639 But yeah, I got so many products that I'm releasing 2942 02:51:34.719 --> 02:51:36.360 right now, and a couple of them need a little 2943 02:51:36.360 --> 02:51:38.159 bit of research and development first. 2944 02:51:39.079 --> 02:51:45.639 So yeah, well get some game that's cool. Yeah, but uh, 2945 02:51:45.719 --> 02:51:48.440 all right, guys, Uh until next time, we'll see you 2946 02:51:48.440 --> 02:51:49.520 all on the flip side. 2947 02:51:49.719 --> 02:51:51.000 But guys, all right. 2948 02:51:51.719 --> 02:51:58.319 Voices drift on windsunting words like these that can be 2949 02:52:00.079 --> 02:52:05.319 those your eyes and feel the sound journey where no 2950 02:52:05.799 --> 02:52:07.600 bounds are found. 2951 02:52:08.440 --> 02:52:15.520 Open doors inside to mind, leave the ordinary far behind. 2952 02:52:16.559 --> 02:52:19.559 The colors swall and stars alive. 2953 02:52:20.959 --> 02:52:24.120 In the mental mysteries, you'll find