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Speaker 2: Hope. Wow.
Speaker 1: Actually he's also a citizen of Peru. But what a day.
Speaker 1: And I don't think anybody has to be Catholic to
Speaker 1: really be intrigued by what we've been watching and what
Speaker 1: just culminated today with yeah, Pope Leo the fourteenth. And
Speaker 1: I got to tell you, having grown up back there
Speaker 1: south side, southwest side, it just unimaginable that we would
Speaker 1: have a pope from Chicago, not that there have been
Speaker 1: a ton of great priests, you know. I spent four
Speaker 1: years in the Catholic seminary back there at the same
Speaker 1: time that the new pope was in a Catholic seminary.
Speaker 2: What was kind of weird was.
Speaker 1: His parish was just about three four miles down the
Speaker 1: road from the.
Speaker 2: High school seminary I went to.
Speaker 1: But instead of going to our seminary quickly south, he
Speaker 1: then went up to Michigan to Saint Augustine up in Michigan,
Speaker 1: so yeah, if he'd just gone to his local seminary,
Speaker 1: we would have been in there together. He would have
Speaker 1: been a couple of years ad, but we would have
Speaker 1: been in there together. But just mind blowing to think
Speaker 1: of somebody from the South Side now becoming pope. But hey,
Speaker 1: anything's possible, right, anything's possible in America and uh and
Speaker 1: in the Catholic church three or three someone three, you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's what happens when you're off for a few days.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much to Shareff Reims and
Speaker 1: to KBB and Da Heidi for filling in while I
Speaker 1: was in trial. And obviously they do a great job,
Speaker 1: and they're going to be hopefully doing a great job
Speaker 1: again the week after next, because I'm back in trial
Speaker 1: the week after next.
Speaker 2: But we'll enjoy this time with you in the meantime.
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Speaker 2: So anxious to get your thoughts on.
Speaker 1: Everything that's been happening during this week that I have
Speaker 1: been away in trial. And I just love going to
Speaker 1: trial down in Colorado Springs. I'll pass so and just
Speaker 1: a wonderful experience down there, so great to see everybody
Speaker 1: down in the springs. Some brutal early spring weather right
Speaker 1: or I guess mid spring weather down there, but it
Speaker 1: was still absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to get your take on, Hey, what
Speaker 2: do you want.
Speaker 1: From this pope? Whether you're Catholic or not, what do
Speaker 1: you want from this pope? I'd really be intrigued to
Speaker 1: hear from me on that, because I think we all
Speaker 1: know that the reality is, no matter what somebody's denomination is,
Speaker 1: or maybe somebody's no faith at all or some other
Speaker 1: faith not Christian, you know, in the end, there's no
Speaker 1: denying that the pope takes on a world leadership role.
Speaker 1: And it depends the extent obviously on the pope. You
Speaker 1: look at John Paul the Great and I think he
Speaker 1: just goes down as one of the great leaders in
Speaker 1: human history, you know, regardless of you know, the position
Speaker 1: in this case pope. And then you have other popes
Speaker 1: who have less global impact or at least less obvious
Speaker 1: global impact.
Speaker 2: But what do you want from this pope?
Speaker 1: I'd love to get your take on that, whether you're
Speaker 1: Catholic or not faithful or not whatever. Would love to
Speaker 1: get your take on what you want from this Pope
Speaker 1: three or three someone three eight two five five text
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Speaker 1: think you'll find his background pretty interesting. Excuse me as
Speaker 1: we get into that conversation. They call him the Latin
Speaker 1: Yankee and Robert Francis Prevost. He was born on September
Speaker 1: fourteenth of nineteen fifty five Mercy Hospital in Chicago.
Speaker 2: His dad a World War Two vet dad in the Navy.
Speaker 2: Spanish origin.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, he was he was just at Saint
Speaker 1: Mary of Assumption on the south side of Chicago, and
Speaker 1: that's now closed. And then, as I said, while I
Speaker 1: was a quickly south prep seminary, he was up at
Speaker 1: Saint Augustine in Michigan. Interesting, both of our seminaries closed
Speaker 1: soon after we graduated, and then my seminary became a
Speaker 1: Catholic high school, Saint Rita. And then that now Pope
Speaker 1: came back to teach at Saint Rita, so he was
Speaker 1: actually teaching at the place where I went high school.
Speaker 1: We had to be there together when Pope John Paul
Speaker 1: the Second came and said Mass at my high school.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we were there at the same time, but
Speaker 1: he would have been there then as a senior seminary
Speaker 1: and I was in seminary for four years during high
Speaker 1: school years. So Cubs fan and an active tennis player.
Speaker 1: So here's my take on the pope, and I really
Speaker 1: would love to get yours, particularly if you're you're not Catholic,
Speaker 1: I'd love to get your take on him.
Speaker 2: My bet is he has to be spectacular.
Speaker 1: I mean, like Pope John Paul, the second spectacular qualities
Speaker 1: to have been elected pope because you have to think
Speaker 1: there'd be such a bias against any American born pope.
Speaker 1: There must just be spectacular qualities for this to have happened. Now,
Speaker 1: I was just talking to Jimmy Seckenberger when he was
Speaker 1: on the way out. Yeah, right, that just the second
Speaker 1: non European pope. So yeah, there's got to be some
Speaker 1: spectacular qualities here. So I'm really excited. I'm really excited
Speaker 1: to see what he brings to the table because you know,
Speaker 1: my and I understand, if somebody's not Catholic, they have
Speaker 1: their own perception of maybe a quote typical Catholic priest.
Speaker 1: And if somebody is Catholic, I guess depending upon what
Speaker 1: part of the country they're and they have their own
Speaker 1: kind of stereotype or norm, let's say norm. But I
Speaker 1: got to tell you, as a guy who is fortunate
Speaker 1: to grow up in Chicago in that archdiocese and be
Speaker 1: taught by those priests during seminary years, and my uncle's
Speaker 1: a priest, we're going to try to get him on
Speaker 1: the show today see if he knows the pope. I mean, come,
Speaker 1: my uncle's been a Catholic priest in Chicago for a
Speaker 1: long time. He's ninety three, and he's does three masses
Speaker 1: a week and he still packs the house for him
Speaker 1: and because he's really good, he gives great homilies, and
Speaker 1: he's always understood. He's always understood. You know, hey, life's
Speaker 1: busy for everybody. Have about a seven minute homily, make
Speaker 1: a key point, tell a joke, and get out of dodge.
Speaker 2: And so he.
Speaker 1: Still packs the house for his masses. So we'll try
Speaker 1: to get him on the show and see what he
Speaker 1: knows of the new Pope.
Speaker 2: And if he doesn't know him himself.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he knows a bunch of guys who do,
Speaker 1: particularly if the new pope's a golfer. So threebout three
Speaker 1: someone three eight two five five Text d An five, seven, seven,
Speaker 1: three nine. But the point of all that is, you know,
Speaker 1: for me, a guy grew up in Chicago, Catholic seminary
Speaker 1: in Chicago, and then knowing the priests I know here
Speaker 1: in Denver, my.
Speaker 2: Experience with priests is just an.
Speaker 1: Awful lot of you know, cool guys, smart guys, you know,
Speaker 1: guys who could have done anything but just decided, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, they're going to serve God, and just you know,
Speaker 1: really cool guys to be around. And so my guess
Speaker 1: is that he is one of those guys, and assuming
Speaker 1: that the pope is that can do so much good
Speaker 1: for the church worldwide, and also you have just so
Speaker 1: much good for the world in terms of leadership, et cetera.
Speaker 1: So that's my bet is that there's something really really
Speaker 1: really special for him to have overcome the American born thing,
Speaker 1: and that we're going to see that, and we're going
Speaker 1: to see that in the form probably of a you know,
Speaker 1: a younger, more active, more physically active pope than maybe
Speaker 1: people normally envisioned more along the model of John Paul
Speaker 1: the Second. So I'm optimistic, can't wait and would love
Speaker 1: to get your take on this. This text says Dan,
Speaker 1: I am not Catholic, but I'd like him to hold
Speaker 1: fast to biblical values and not be with the politics
Speaker 1: politics more like John Paul, less like Pope Francis. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not agreeing with that criticism of Pope Francis, but
Speaker 1: I get the reference to John Paul the Second right,
Speaker 1: because Yeah, that was someone that I think lots of
Speaker 1: people from around the world who weren't Catholic could relate
Speaker 1: to get interested in. And that's part of the calling,
Speaker 1: right that that's part of what Christ wants us to do.
Speaker 1: So I have a feeling this Pope is going to
Speaker 1: be a particularly good messenger like that. In terms of
Speaker 1: the quote weoll politics, yeah, I would be. I would
Speaker 1: fully expect him to be very pro basic human dignity
Speaker 1: of immigrants, whether they're legal immigrants or not, and as
Speaker 1: I think he should be right, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: all of us should be respecting the basic human dignity
Speaker 1: of everybody, including those who might want to come into
Speaker 1: a country legally. That doesn't mean they should, that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean they should be allowed to That's not the point.
Speaker 1: And if somebody's just an awful, add criminal type person,
Speaker 1: you know, well then obviously you've got that that has
Speaker 1: to be dealt with practically as well. But in terms
Speaker 1: of the inherent human dignity we all have because we're
Speaker 1: created by God, Yeah, I expect he'll speak strongly to that.
Speaker 2: But here's the key, right, here's the key.
Speaker 1: It's like the Colorado bishops have been so articulate and
Speaker 1: so strong and making it clear that right, you know, folks, immigrants,
Speaker 1: including illegal immigrants, they're still children God, they have this
Speaker 1: basic human dignity. But a country is allowed to have
Speaker 1: its borders, a country must be allowed to enforce its laws.
Speaker 1: There are lots of challenging problems that come with unfederately
Speaker 1: legal immigration. A nation has a right to have an
Speaker 1: orderly process, and so I think the Catholic Bishops of
Speaker 1: Colorado have spoken perfectly to this in a way that
Speaker 1: I would expect is acceptable to the vast majority of
Speaker 1: folks who, let's say, agree with the Republican Party platform
Speaker 1: on illegal immigration. But at the same time that the bishops,
Speaker 1: you know, acknowledge and strongly acknowledge that basic human dignity.
Speaker 1: So it'll be very interesting to see and where this
Speaker 1: Pope comes down on some of the specifics. But my
Speaker 1: expectation is that we'll be much closer to the really
Speaker 1: wise stance taken by the Colorado Catholic bishops and while
Speaker 1: still respecting that inherent human dignity. So it's uh, I'm
Speaker 1: really optimistic about what's to come.
Speaker 2: Much more to talk about as well. I mean, again,
Speaker 2: i've been in trial.
Speaker 1: We haven't had a chance to talk about the DOJ
Speaker 1: suit against Colorado, the DOJ suit against Denver. Will zero
Speaker 1: in on that specifically and much more ahead. You're on
Speaker 1: the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 3: And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Three h three.
Speaker 1: So when three eight two five five the number techs
Speaker 1: d A N five seven seven three nine. And as
Speaker 1: a Catholic, obviously a huge day as we have the
Speaker 1: new pope. But as a guy who grew up on
Speaker 1: the South Side of Chicago, then the Southwest Side and
Speaker 1: went to Catholic seminary in Chicago, particularly intrigued fellow Chicagoan
Speaker 1: who was in minor seminary at the same time, I
Speaker 1: would somehow ended up as pope. I'm yeah, wow, just
Speaker 1: absolutely unimaginable to me, but very cool because I beting
Speaker 1: he is uber uber talented or would not have been
Speaker 1: able to overcome the American born thing. We'll have some
Speaker 1: great sound from President Trump talking about how exciting, excited
Speaker 1: he is and what a great honor it is for
Speaker 1: America to have an American born pope. Obviously, any pope
Speaker 1: then just becomes kind of a citizen of the world.
Speaker 1: And if we wanted to get philosophical, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: we're all just citizens of heaven. But yeah, but how
Speaker 1: cool to have somebody, you know, from Chicago and American,
Speaker 1: though also a Peruvian citizen, became a citizen of Peru
Speaker 1: as he spent I think he spent about twenty years there. So,
Speaker 1: whether you're Catholic or not religious or not, what do
Speaker 1: you want to see from this new pope. We're also
Speaker 1: going to talk about to me, one of the most
Speaker 1: mind blowing things I've ever seen happen in almost thirty
Speaker 1: years on air, and it should be one of those
Speaker 1: cut through the noise moments that causes that the people
Speaker 1: of Colorado to just really take notice of how truly
Speaker 1: psycho that's an understatement. The left in Colorado has become
Speaker 1: that Denver is pulling the license plate readers because they're
Speaker 1: afraid that it will lead to illegal immigrants being detained.
Speaker 1: I mean, imagine that you could not have a clearer
Speaker 1: example of the choice that the Colorado Democratic Party has
Speaker 1: made between citizens of the state and people here illegally,
Speaker 1: just as the Democratic Party Colorado has made a clear
Speaker 1: choice between criminals and non criminals. And it's just again,
Speaker 1: it's almost unimaginable, right, But they're so brazen about it.
Speaker 1: I understand this is a Denver example, but we have
Speaker 1: so many state wide examples, including bills that have just
Speaker 1: passed the legislature, where there's this clear choice in one example,
Speaker 1: in favor of criminals and against the innocent, and in
Speaker 1: another example, in favor of people here illegally and against
Speaker 1: people here legally. And to cap it all off, in
Speaker 1: the most obscene, immoral abuse of public power, repeated clear
Speaker 1: choices in favor of people here illegally who have committed
Speaker 1: serious crimes and against innocent citizens. I mean, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: believe it if it was in a novel, right, But
Speaker 1: it is what is actually happening in Colorado. And the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party obviously feels and you tell me if you
Speaker 1: think they're right, but they obviously feel that they are
Speaker 1: electorally bulletproof. It's not going to make any difference whatsoever
Speaker 1: when they run against the Republican opponent.
Speaker 2: And the reason they do it.
Speaker 1: In part is because the big money for Democrat candidates,
Speaker 1: the big money they need to win primaries in statewide offices,
Speaker 1: comes from the hardcore secular left. And if they want
Speaker 1: to get that big money from the hardcore secular left,
Speaker 1: they have to do these insane things that are societal suicide.
Speaker 1: And then you see the societal suicide play out right.
Speaker 2: I mean, look at Denver.
Speaker 1: We'll be talking about some more of those stats today,
Speaker 1: Michael Brown on six point thirty kitchen. I mean, Denver
Speaker 1: had a tremendous couple of segments on this this morning,
Speaker 1: you know, just documenting Denver now most recent study third
Speaker 1: in crime Colorado third and crime in the US. And
Speaker 1: it just fits with all of these other stats, confirming
Speaker 1: what common sense would tell you that if you have
Speaker 1: the kind of laws that the left is imposed in Colorado,
Speaker 1: now you do those things, well, then the state is
Speaker 1: going to go steadily downhill. And it's just like going bankrupt,
Speaker 1: right to go bankrupt slowly and then all at once,
Speaker 1: And that is the clear trajectory Colorado is on now.
Speaker 2: As awful as the left is.
Speaker 1: They cannot overnight just make our amazing natural, God given
Speaker 1: beauty disappear, or our tremendous weather disappear, or our amazingly
Speaker 1: favorable geographic location disappear. They can't make all that just disappear.
Speaker 1: But they can make this place as bad as it
Speaker 1: could possibly be given all of the natural advantages we have.
Speaker 1: And it is clearly headed that direction. But are they
Speaker 1: right that the voters they just don't care. I mean
Speaker 1: they care, they don't like it, this and that, But
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean they're going to vote for the Republican.
Speaker 2: Is that where we're at right now?
Speaker 1: Because that is their bet, that is their bet they
Speaker 1: can get away with anything, because no matter what, the
Speaker 1: voters are not going to elect Republicans statewide. Love your
Speaker 1: take on that? Three or three someone three eight two
Speaker 1: five five texts d An five seven seven three nine. Personally,
Speaker 1: I think what they're doing is immoral, and I think
Speaker 1: that they which to some of them.
Speaker 2: Won't matter right because to me, this is one.
Speaker 1: Of the most disheartening things about what has happened to
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party in America when I was part of
Speaker 1: it and I grew up in it, and my parents,
Speaker 1: most of my extended family, all my extended family in
Speaker 1: the Chicago area, they're all Democrats. But I grew up
Speaker 1: when most Democrats and the Democratic Party were faith based.
Speaker 1: And now the Democratic Party is largely controlled by hardcore
Speaker 1: seculars who are actively hostile toward faith, and in particular
Speaker 1: the Christian faith and the Catholic Christian faith.
Speaker 2: So you get that going. And those those kind of.
Speaker 1: People, I mean secular, they don't care often about whether
Speaker 1: it's moral or not.
Speaker 2: That just doesn't make any difference to them.
Speaker 1: So, but what you have right now is this situation
Speaker 1: where they have bet the voters of Colorado just are
Speaker 1: not going to vote Republican no matter what. I think
Speaker 1: they've overplayed their hand, and I think the right GOP
Speaker 1: candidates because we've got a governor's race and a Senate
Speaker 1: race that normally, under normal conditions would be full throttle
Speaker 1: right now, right, it'd just be going crazy right now,
Speaker 1: But there's very little interest because nobody thinks the Republican
Speaker 1: can win. And I think that the left has overplayed
Speaker 1: its hand. You know, right candidate right campaign rights support,
Speaker 1: which means listen, nobody can win right short of the
Speaker 1: Good Lord coming down himself, and Boyd with the Colorado
Speaker 1: Democratic Party oppose him.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Short of the Good Lord coming down, it's say himself.
Speaker 1: No GOP candidate can win without a unified Republican party,
Speaker 1: without a unified Republican voter block in Colorado.
Speaker 2: But I do.
Speaker 1: Believe if those stars align, Yeah, I think the Democrat
Speaker 1: could be beat, particularly given what appears to be their
Speaker 1: presumptive nominee Michael Bennett, not a Democrat, an Aristocrat and
Speaker 1: somebody I think the people of Colorado Wood reject would
Speaker 1: reject if they had the right alternative and the right
Speaker 1: campaign behind it. Love your thoughts on all that, including
Speaker 1: the new Pope. What do you want to see from
Speaker 1: the new Pope? And one of our favorite conservatives, Ty Winner,
Speaker 1: will join us after the break here on the Dan
Speaker 1: Capla Show.
Speaker 3: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Pope.
Speaker 1: We've been talking about that a bit, particularly since these
Speaker 1: from Chicago and we were in seminary at the same time.
Speaker 2: Back there was a couple of years ahead of me,
Speaker 2: but we were.
Speaker 1: At two different Catholic seminaries, which is weird because his
Speaker 1: parish assumption was just a few miles down the road
Speaker 1: from my seminary, But just mind blowing that does somebody
Speaker 1: from Chicago quis no pope, but I think he's going
Speaker 1: to be great.
Speaker 2: Hey, let's go to one of our favorite people.
Speaker 1: Assistant Minority Leader Ty Winter joins us again on the
Speaker 1: Dan Kapla Show. Ty, I'm pretty impressed that you're still saying.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine working down there and you
Speaker 1: have all of this just obnoxious, arrogant lunacy going on
Speaker 1: from the left. So what's your secret? Is it, Tony Robbins?
Speaker 1: Is it chemical? I mean, what do you do to
Speaker 1: stay sane down there?
Speaker 4: Oh, mister Kaplis. It's the people. And I don't mean
Speaker 4: that to sound cheesy.
Speaker 2: It's the truth.
Speaker 4: I mean, when you travel throughout these districts and you
Speaker 4: have hard work and good, honest people come up to
Speaker 4: you and say, hey, keep fighting and keep doing what
Speaker 4: you're doing. I think that's what drives most of us.
Speaker 4: At least that's what drives me. So I would say,
Speaker 4: it's the people and then trying to fight for what's right.
Speaker 4: I think that's one thing our caucus did this year.
Speaker 4: We were united in the fight. You know, like everybody,
Speaker 4: we have our little family arguments, but we found the
Speaker 4: way to stay united when we needed to, and we
Speaker 4: got a lot of things done. So I think it
Speaker 4: was a successful year for the Mighty twenty two and
Speaker 4: it was honored to stand with those twenty one other
Speaker 4: Republicans in the fight to save the soul of Colorado.
Speaker 1: Well, right, And I think if I remember the Bible, right,
Speaker 1: it's fight, the good fight, finished the race. It's not
Speaker 1: put more points on the board than the other side.
Speaker 1: In fact, many of the greatest figures in history, right,
Speaker 1: have been people who have fought the good fight against
Speaker 1: seemingly impossible odds. And the w may not have come
Speaker 1: during their season, but it helped pave the way for it.
Speaker 1: So what are the big highlights?
Speaker 4: You know, Whilst you know, we're really excited about being
Speaker 4: able to push off the Table resolution, I think, you know,
Speaker 4: people say that there's way more than them than us,
Speaker 4: and they had the votes to do what they wanted.
Speaker 4: But by us activating the public in the citizenry and
Speaker 4: having people reach out and write off BIS and then
Speaker 4: once we got the word out from the Caucus that
Speaker 4: they were coming after Tabor, I mean it activated the
Speaker 4: people of Colorado because you know, people are starting to
Speaker 4: realize that the Democrats use fees and enterprise is to
Speaker 4: skirt around tabor, and they see that they have priority
Speaker 4: problems in Colorado, and I don't think people wanted to
Speaker 4: give them the pin to their debit cards. So, you know,
Speaker 4: I think that was a win for us. I think,
Speaker 4: you know, as strong as we fought even though we
Speaker 4: weren't able to kill them, as strong as we fought
Speaker 4: for parental rights in thirteen twelve, and as strong as
Speaker 4: we fought for the second Amendment on Senate Bill three.
Speaker 4: And there's just so many examples of this caucus just
Speaker 4: getting up every day and you know, fighting for you know,
Speaker 4: basic rights are unalienable, God given rights, and just fighting
Speaker 4: to make sure that there's a more affordable Colorado for people,
Speaker 4: to make sure that there's a safer Colorado, for people
Speaker 4: to make sure that they can raise their kids and
Speaker 4: big government doesn't get interfere and then finally to protect
Speaker 4: their taxpayer bill rights. So I think those are all highlights.
Speaker 4: I think we did a really good job of litigating
Speaker 4: the Long Bill and showing the people of Colorado we
Speaker 4: don't have a revenue problem, we have a priority problem.
Speaker 4: So those are definitely some highlights the year without getting
Speaker 4: too deep into the weeds.
Speaker 1: Now, kid Winter, I guess a system menory leaders, So
Speaker 1: ty here out there, you know what's going on.
Speaker 2: What's it going to take to get.
Speaker 1: To the point where the people of Colorado are going
Speaker 1: to elect Republicans statewide.
Speaker 4: I think people believe in our ideas. I think we
Speaker 4: have to work on our messaging. And you know, I
Speaker 4: was listening to the show before, and you're right, it's
Speaker 4: going to have to be a united front. I think
Speaker 4: the problem that we have is is we have to
Speaker 4: really start to activate within our church communities, you know,
Speaker 4: our smaller community than you know. The grassroots is strong
Speaker 4: in the state. We've seen it numerous times when Minority
Speaker 4: Leader Paglivi and Don Wilson, who was a representative last year,
Speaker 4: were able to get the question called up to the
Speaker 4: ballot to see if we wanted to stay in the
Speaker 4: Convention or if we wanted to break off and be
Speaker 4: separate and have where the state of Colorado doesn't join
Speaker 4: the Electoral College. Sorry about that, Dan, I was spoken all, oh, yeah, no, no, sorry,
Speaker 4: it's been a long day. The day of Colorado would
Speaker 4: be able to not have to worry about the electroc
Speaker 4: college issue, and the grassroots did that and they were
Speaker 4: able to come strong. So I think, I mean elevating
Speaker 4: and highlighting the grassroots. We've got to get out the
Speaker 4: fundraising machine. The Democrats spend way more money than us,
Speaker 4: and that's unfortunate, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: that's how it works.
Speaker 2: So we have to.
Speaker 4: Activate the fundraising machine. We have to recruit quality candidates.
Speaker 4: I mean, we need candidates that have life experience, job experience,
Speaker 4: because those are the experience that we'll find out that
Speaker 4: are resonate with voters at the door. So I think
Speaker 4: if we get that ground game strong, we go recruit
Speaker 4: good candidates, we activate the grassroots, We educate the populace
Speaker 4: about what's happening happening to them by government and not
Speaker 4: for government for them. I think people are ready to
Speaker 4: take a swing, and you know, some people think it's
Speaker 4: a while from now, but I think we're going to
Speaker 4: gain some more ground in the next year.
Speaker 1: Sir boy, the opportunities, sure, they're right. I mean, it
Speaker 1: seems to me one of the big challenges is getting
Speaker 1: past what seems to be this strong belief that the
Speaker 1: GOP just can't.
Speaker 2: Win stay wide.
Speaker 1: So it seems like a lot of the big money
Speaker 1: guys and gales they won't get in at this point
Speaker 1: because that's.
Speaker 2: That's how they got a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Right many of them is making good bets and they
Speaker 1: just don't see the GOP is a good bet right now.
Speaker 1: So I think it's going to take somebody to sort
Speaker 1: of break through all that get in a position where
Speaker 1: it looks like they can win, and then then I
Speaker 1: think it's a GOP could just pick off one of
Speaker 1: these big state wide races and show it's possible.
Speaker 2: Then I think it all loosens up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent, sir, and
Speaker 4: I think those candidates are out there. I do think
Speaker 4: that people in this state are starting to pay attention
Speaker 4: because when life starts to get hard, people are going
Speaker 4: to pay attention. I mean we literally hear stories of
Speaker 4: people digging through the couch cushions to get changed by
Speaker 4: gas to go to work, and I mean at some
Speaker 4: point people are going to wake up. So I think
Speaker 4: you're right. I think if we find a really good candidate,
Speaker 4: we're able to activate all the other things. I think
Speaker 4: we do have a solid chance, but it's going to
Speaker 4: take a lot of work, but I think our ideas
Speaker 4: are going to be the idea that prevails in the end.
Speaker 4: I think that we have the commons dense ideas around
Speaker 4: the nuclear family, around finances, around safety, but messaging that
Speaker 4: is another thing. And then you know, like you said,
Speaker 4: unfortunately the people of Colorado have had to deal with
Speaker 4: a little bit that's kind of jerked their attention into
Speaker 4: the political realm.
Speaker 1: Well, my brother, if it was just about ideas, I
Speaker 1: think the GOP would win every race statewide. Right. It's
Speaker 1: just you know, as a former Democrat myself, I think
Speaker 1: there are so many people who just have this wrong
Speaker 1: stereotype about Republicans that you know, you're not going to
Speaker 1: get any help from the media defeating that. And it's
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it's just going to be a tougher
Speaker 1: fight for us, but we found a way before we
Speaker 1: will again. And yeah, I appreciate all the work you're
Speaker 1: doing in the trenches because again that has to be
Speaker 1: brutal down there, but you and your colleagues you just
Speaker 1: keep showing up and fighting hard and accomplishing them probably
Speaker 1: about as much as anybody ever could.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you and thank you for paying attention and
Speaker 4: all the people that pray for us and come and
Speaker 4: support us, and the people that come into fight, because
Speaker 4: that's all woven into the story. And I think they
Speaker 4: have a little bit louder voice because their constituents can
Speaker 4: make it down to the capital so easy and testify.
Speaker 4: But those of our constituents that drive in from you know,
Speaker 4: al Paso County, all the nine counties in my district,
Speaker 4: from all over in Colorado and they tell their story,
Speaker 4: that helps us a lot because they need to hear
Speaker 4: those stories outside the metroplits. So you know, sir, I
Speaker 4: appreciate the kind words. Just know that the Mighty twenty
Speaker 4: two are going to keep showing up. We're going to
Speaker 4: keep fighting. We're going to hit the roads running this summer.
Speaker 4: We're going to get out, we're going to talk to
Speaker 4: our constituents, and we're going to cheap trying to move
Speaker 4: the needle. Like you said, because we don't own the media,
Speaker 4: they're not favorable to us. There's so many things stacked
Speaker 4: against us. But at the end of the day, sir,
Speaker 4: we're gonna win. I have that feeling, and you know,
Speaker 4: you mentioned it earlier about being on the ground floor
Speaker 4: of something, and you may not be the one that
Speaker 4: gets it over the finish line. But you know, sometimes
Speaker 4: being the cornerstone is, you know, the most important part
Speaker 4: to a good foundation. So I hope that you know,
Speaker 4: you are all seeing that we're going to continue to
Speaker 4: be that cornerstone and we're going to start to lay
Speaker 4: the foundation for you to get that Republican candidate in there.
Speaker 1: Well, I think, looking at it, logically, you've already won,
Speaker 1: right because I think people who stand up against evil things,
Speaker 1: and I'm not calling any of your political opponents evil,
Speaker 1: but they're pushing a lot of truly evil things. And
Speaker 1: I think that big picture, people who stand up against
Speaker 1: evil things, especially against long odds, have already won in
Speaker 1: the most important sense. Now it's just a matter of
Speaker 1: just translating that into some legislative victories. But again, thanks
Speaker 1: for all you do and look forward to the next conversation.
Speaker 2: Thank you, sir.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you having me on. It was good hearing
Speaker 4: from you, and I look forward to the next conversation
Speaker 4: as well. Have a good evening.
Speaker 2: Thanks, Ty, take care.
Speaker 1: It's Ty Winner, Assistant Minority Leader, and I know Ty,
Speaker 1: outside of all this stuff, good guy, and they've really
Speaker 1: you know, there are a lot of good people working
Speaker 1: really hard down there, but obviously still a lot of
Speaker 1: very nasty stuff and some of it flat evil happening.
Speaker 2: And will be digging back into all of that shortly.
Speaker 1: But I'm getting a lot of text I want to
Speaker 1: get to some of those in calls as well on
Speaker 1: the new Pope and first one obviously born in America,
Speaker 1: And what do you want to see from the new Pope?
Speaker 2: You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 3: And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast three or.
Speaker 1: Three someone three eight two five five text an five
Speaker 1: seven seven three nine. Obviously I'm talking about baseball there.
Speaker 1: I hate to have the new pope, right, What do
Speaker 1: you want to see from the new pope? Whether you're
Speaker 1: Catholic or not Christian, or not faithful or not, what
Speaker 1: do you want to see from the new pope? Because
Speaker 1: popes aren't happening to be Catholic, but pope's take on
Speaker 1: a world importance as well, some more than others, right,
Speaker 1: I think in modern times the pinnacle of that pope
Speaker 1: John Paul the Second, now Saint John Paul the Great.
Speaker 1: But yeah, what do you want to see from this pope?
Speaker 1: I want to get to some text calls as well.
Speaker 1: We're talking about much more. And you know, Sho, I
Speaker 1: haven't been on this week at all. I've been in
Speaker 1: trial down in Colorado Springs. Tremendous experience and grateful to
Speaker 1: everybody who filled in, Sheriff Steve Raims and KBB and
Speaker 1: Heidi and so.
Speaker 2: Grateful for that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well, one of the weirdest things because I've
Speaker 1: been trying cases for forty years and it's just one
Speaker 1: of the coolest things you can imagine, and then doing
Speaker 1: jury selection and meeting all these people from different areas
Speaker 1: in the state, and so we're in there with my
Speaker 1: wonderful client and everything's rolling, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you know, we lose our alternate and then we lose
Speaker 1: a jury jury illness And every other case I've tried
Speaker 1: for forty years, when you get down below six years
Speaker 1: sybil is six felony twelve. When you get down below six,
Speaker 1: everybody's just agreed to go forward with five. But in
Speaker 1: this case, the other side did not agree to go
Speaker 1: forward with five, and so the court had no choice
Speaker 1: but to end the trial like right in the middle
Speaker 1: of it. And so, boy, that's a new experience. I
Speaker 1: never want to have again. But my wonderful client is
Speaker 1: an amazing person, a fighter, and we're going to go
Speaker 1: back and tee it up again in a couple of months.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so thank you to all of those who
Speaker 1: have done such a great job this week while I
Speaker 1: have been off in trial. Before I get to the
Speaker 1: phone lines, a Texter says, Dan, are you saying you
Speaker 1: don't know many Christian Democrats? Not at all, Not at all.
Speaker 1: Some of the best Christians I know are Democrats. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying is that you have an awsul lot of
Speaker 1: people voting for Democrats out of habit.
Speaker 2: Out of habit.
Speaker 1: They were born into a family that voted Democrat. They
Speaker 1: voted Democrat out of habits. It doesn't mean they like
Speaker 1: what the Democratic Party's doing. So many people just aren't
Speaker 1: actively engaged politically every day, right, They're not like the
Speaker 1: folks listening to this show, no matter what side of
Speaker 1: the aisle they're on, and so they're just not dialed
Speaker 1: into the fact that, you know, hey, the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: isn't what it used to be. It isn't your mom
Speaker 1: or your grandmother's Democratic Party. It's become taken over by
Speaker 1: the hardcore secular left. And so yeah, a lot of
Speaker 1: people voting Democrat who they're aware of some things that
Speaker 1: are happening, but they're not dialed into that. And then
Speaker 1: the big thing, and I'm telling you this as a
Speaker 1: former Democrat, there's no denying this is true. You have
Speaker 1: this untrue stereotype about Republicans, which is the biggest thing
Speaker 1: that keeps many Democrats Democrats, because what percentage of Democrats
Speaker 1: do you really think are these hardcore lefties you know,
Speaker 1: who you're never going to get They they just want
Speaker 1: more of a socialist country and all this other garbage.
Speaker 2: Probably a third at most. The other two thirds, No, they're.
Speaker 1: They're sane, patriotic, good reasonable people, and so many have
Speaker 1: just grown up with this untrue, negative stereotype of Republicans.
Speaker 1: So those are the things we've got to overcome. It
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're some kind of heathens, you know. And
Speaker 1: then part of the burdens on the GOP, you know,
Speaker 1: and I know we've got a tougher fight on the GOP.
Speaker 1: I've been part of both parties who've got an uphill
Speaker 1: battle when you're GOP because the media is against you,
Speaker 1: makes it tougher to get the truth out there about
Speaker 1: the Democrats and the good truth about the Republicans.
Speaker 2: But you know what, we can't wind. We just have
Speaker 2: to find a way to win. We just have to
Speaker 2: be better.
Speaker 1: Dan, I read where the new pope is a staunch
Speaker 1: Trump hater. Those are not words I would choose. I
Speaker 1: think that as a cardinal, and even before becoming a cardinal,
Speaker 1: now hoopefully on the fourteenth was hey.
Speaker 2: He tweeted a lot, and he was.
Speaker 1: Very direct and very plain spoken. Disagrees with certain things
Speaker 1: President Trump has done on immigration. He's just disagreed with JD.
Speaker 1: Vance on certain Catholic philosophies. So in that sense, yeah,
Speaker 1: is there an opposition on policy. I think there clearly is.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to now this new role as Pope,
Speaker 1: I would expect him to be I'd expect him to
Speaker 1: be very balanced and listen, I don't expect a president
Speaker 1: who I am really grateful for and I think has
Speaker 1: done some phenomenally tremendous things to always agree with the pope.
Speaker 1: And I certainly don't expect the Pope to tailor anything
Speaker 1: to politics, but I can admire most both well clearly
Speaker 1: come on in terms.
Speaker 2: Of in terms of priorities there.
Speaker 1: You know, when you talk about God and you talk
Speaker 1: about eternity and you talk about my faith, my faith
Speaker 1: comes light years before my politics. My faith is exponentially
Speaker 1: more important to me than my politics. But I see
Speaker 1: both blending together very very well. As I think that
Speaker 1: President Trump and Pope Leo the fourteenth, I think will
Speaker 1: end up finding an awful lot of common ground. And
Speaker 1: I love the comments that President Trump had today about
Speaker 1: the Pope. All positive and all forward looking and all
Speaker 1: looking forward to meeting the Pope. And you know, it
Speaker 1: was funny I read this one comment.
Speaker 2: About when.
Speaker 1: Pope Leo the fourteenth visit the White House, not how
Speaker 1: it works. Popes don't visit the White House no matter
Speaker 1: who the president is, which party they're from. If a
Speaker 1: president wants to meet the Pope, the president goes to
Speaker 1: the Vatican. And whether President Trump chooses to do that
Speaker 1: or not, I sure hope he does. And again, I
Speaker 1: loved President Trump's comments today about the Pope, and I
Speaker 1: would bet you they they find a way to accomplish
Speaker 1: a lot of good things together, starting with starting with
Speaker 1: blessed are the peacemakers right? And on that absolutely vital,
Speaker 1: innocent human life issue. Trump is a peacemaker. He has
Speaker 1: proven that he approaches at peace through strength. He is
Speaker 1: a peacemaker. Popes are peacemakers. I have no doubt this
Speaker 1: Pope is going to be peacemaker. Then you come to
Speaker 1: innocent human life on a massive scale, like millions of
Speaker 1: innocent human lives that are routinely slaughtered by abortion.
Speaker 2: And Donald Trump has been.
Speaker 1: An absolute champion of the unborn, and there is no
Speaker 1: question this pope is a champion of the unborn. So
Speaker 1: on those two vital issues at the core of Catholic teaching,
Speaker 1: I think there is going to be nothing but common
Speaker 1: ground when it comes to the Pope and President Trump.
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