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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 2>Hope. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually he's also a citizen of Peru. But what a day.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think anybody has to be Catholic to

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<v Speaker 1>really be intrigued by what we've been watching and what

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<v Speaker 1>just culminated today with yeah, Pope Leo the fourteenth. And

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<v Speaker 1>I got to tell you, having grown up back there

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<v Speaker 1>south side, southwest side, it just unimaginable that we would

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<v Speaker 1>have a pope from Chicago, not that there have been

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of great priests, you know. I spent four

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<v Speaker 1>years in the Catholic seminary back there at the same

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<v Speaker 1>time that the new pope was in a Catholic seminary.

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<v Speaker 2>What was kind of weird was.

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<v Speaker 1>His parish was just about three four miles down the

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<v Speaker 1>road from the.

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<v Speaker 2>High school seminary I went to.

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<v Speaker 1>But instead of going to our seminary quickly south, he

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<v Speaker 1>then went up to Michigan to Saint Augustine up in Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, if he'd just gone to his local seminary,

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<v Speaker 1>we would have been in there together. He would have

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<v Speaker 1>been a couple of years ad, but we would have

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<v Speaker 1>been in there together. But just mind blowing to think

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<v Speaker 1>of somebody from the South Side now becoming pope. But hey,

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<v Speaker 1>anything's possible, right, anything's possible in America and uh and

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<v Speaker 1>in the Catholic church three or three someone three, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's what happens when you're off for a few days.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you so much to Shareff Reims and

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<v Speaker 1>to KBB and Da Heidi for filling in while I

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<v Speaker 1>was in trial. And obviously they do a great job,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going to be hopefully doing a great job

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<v Speaker 1>again the week after next, because I'm back in trial

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<v Speaker 1>the week after next.

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<v Speaker 2>But we'll enjoy this time with you in the meantime.

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<v Speaker 1>Three all three seven to one three A two five five,

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<v Speaker 2>So anxious to get your thoughts on.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything that's been happening during this week that I have

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<v Speaker 1>been away in trial. And I just love going to

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<v Speaker 1>trial down in Colorado Springs. I'll pass so and just

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful experience down there, so great to see everybody

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<v Speaker 1>down in the springs. Some brutal early spring weather right

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<v Speaker 1>or I guess mid spring weather down there, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was still absolutely wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to get your take on, Hey, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you want.

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<v Speaker 1>From this pope? Whether you're Catholic or not, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you want from this pope? I'd really be intrigued to

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<v Speaker 1>hear from me on that, because I think we all

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<v Speaker 1>know that the reality is, no matter what somebody's denomination is,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe somebody's no faith at all or some other

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<v Speaker 1>faith not Christian, you know, in the end, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>denying that the pope takes on a world leadership role.

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<v Speaker 1>And it depends the extent obviously on the pope. You

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<v Speaker 1>look at John Paul the Great and I think he

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<v Speaker 1>just goes down as one of the great leaders in

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<v Speaker 1>human history, you know, regardless of you know, the position

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<v Speaker 1>in this case pope. And then you have other popes

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<v Speaker 1>who have less global impact or at least less obvious

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<v Speaker 2>But what do you want from this pope?

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to get your take on that, whether you're

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic or not faithful or not whatever. Would love to

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<v Speaker 1>get your take on what you want from this Pope

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<v Speaker 1>think you'll find his background pretty interesting. Excuse me as

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<v Speaker 1>we get into that conversation. They call him the Latin

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<v Speaker 1>Yankee and Robert Francis Prevost. He was born on September

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<v Speaker 2>His dad a World War Two vet dad in the Navy.

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<v Speaker 2>Spanish origin.

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<v Speaker 1>And then yeah, he was he was just at Saint

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<v Speaker 1>We had to be there together when Pope John Paul

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<v Speaker 1>So here's my take on the pope, and I really

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<v Speaker 1>would love to get yours, particularly if you're you're not Catholic,

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<v Speaker 2>My bet is he has to be spectacular.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like Pope John Paul, the second spectacular qualities

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<v Speaker 1>there'd be such a bias against any American born pope.

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<v Speaker 1>There must just be spectacular qualities for this to have happened. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>spectacular qualities here. So I'm really excited. I'm really excited

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<v Speaker 1>to see what he brings to the table because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my and I understand, if somebody's not Catholic, they have

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<v Speaker 1>their own perception of maybe a quote typical Catholic priest.

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<v Speaker 1>And if somebody is Catholic, I guess depending upon what

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<v Speaker 1>part of the country they're and they have their own

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stereotype or norm, let's say norm. But I

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<v Speaker 1>taught by those priests during seminary years, and my uncle's

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<v Speaker 1>a priest, we're going to try to get him on

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<v Speaker 1>the show today see if he knows the pope. I mean, come,

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<v Speaker 1>my uncle's been a Catholic priest in Chicago for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. He's ninety three, and he's does three masses

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<v Speaker 1>and because he's really good, he gives great homilies, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's always understood. He's always understood. You know, hey, life's

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<v Speaker 1>busy for everybody. Have about a seven minute homily, make

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<v Speaker 2>And so he.

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<v Speaker 1>Still packs the house for his masses. So we'll try

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<v Speaker 1>to get him on the show and see what he

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<v Speaker 1>knows of the new Pope.

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<v Speaker 2>And if he doesn't know him himself.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he knows a bunch of guys who do,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly if the new pope's a golfer. So threebout three

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<v Speaker 2>Experience with priests is just an.

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<v Speaker 1>Awful lot of you know, cool guys, smart guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>really cool guys to be around. And so my guess

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<v Speaker 1>that the pope is that can do so much good

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<v Speaker 1>So that's my bet is that there's something really really

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<v Speaker 1>to see that in the form probably of a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a younger, more active, more physically active pope than maybe

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<v Speaker 1>people normally envisioned more along the model of John Paul

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<v Speaker 1>the Second. So I'm optimistic, can't wait and would love

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<v Speaker 1>to get your take on this. This text says Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not Catholic, but I'd like him to hold

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<v Speaker 1>fast to biblical values and not be with the politics

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<v Speaker 1>politics more like John Paul, less like Pope Francis. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not agreeing with that criticism of Pope Francis, but

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<v Speaker 1>I get the reference to John Paul the Second right,

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<v Speaker 1>because Yeah, that was someone that I think lots of

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<v Speaker 1>people from around the world who weren't Catholic could relate

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<v Speaker 1>right that that's part of what Christ wants us to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have a feeling this Pope is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a particularly good messenger like that. In terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the quote weoll politics, yeah, I would be. I would

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<v Speaker 1>fully expect him to be very pro basic human dignity

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<v Speaker 1>of immigrants, whether they're legal immigrants or not, and as

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<v Speaker 1>I think he should be right, I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>all of us should be respecting the basic human dignity

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<v Speaker 1>of everybody, including those who might want to come into

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<v Speaker 1>a country legally. That doesn't mean they should, that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean they should be allowed to That's not the point.

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<v Speaker 1>And if somebody's just an awful, add criminal type person,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, well then obviously you've got that that has

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<v Speaker 1>to be dealt with practically as well. But in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the inherent human dignity we all have because we're

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<v Speaker 1>created by God, Yeah, I expect he'll speak strongly to that.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the key, right, here's the key.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the Colorado bishops have been so articulate and

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<v Speaker 1>so strong and making it clear that right, you know, folks, immigrants,

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<v Speaker 1>including illegal immigrants, they're still children God, they have this

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<v Speaker 1>basic human dignity. But a country is allowed to have

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<v Speaker 1>its borders, a country must be allowed to enforce its laws.

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<v Speaker 1>There are lots of challenging problems that come with unfederately

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<v Speaker 1>orderly process, and so I think the Catholic Bishops of

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado have spoken perfectly to this in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>on illegal immigration. But at the same time that the bishops,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, acknowledge and strongly acknowledge that basic human dignity.

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<v Speaker 1>So it'll be very interesting to see and where this

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<v Speaker 1>Pope comes down on some of the specifics. But my

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<v Speaker 1>expectation is that we'll be much closer to the really

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<v Speaker 1>wise stance taken by the Colorado Catholic bishops and while

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<v Speaker 1>still respecting that inherent human dignity. So it's uh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really optimistic about what's to come.

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<v Speaker 2>Much more to talk about as well. I mean, again,

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<v Speaker 2>i've been in trial.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't had a chance to talk about the DOJ

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<v Speaker 1>suit against Colorado, the DOJ suit against Denver. Will zero

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<v Speaker 1>in on that specifically and much more ahead. You're on

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<v Speaker 1>the Dan Capla Show.

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<v Speaker 3>And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Three h three.

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<v Speaker 1>So when three eight two five five the number techs

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<v Speaker 1>a Catholic, obviously a huge day as we have the

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<v Speaker 1>new pope. But as a guy who grew up on

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<v Speaker 1>went to Catholic seminary in Chicago, particularly intrigued fellow Chicagoan

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<v Speaker 1>who was in minor seminary at the same time, I

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<v Speaker 1>would somehow ended up as pope. I'm yeah, wow, just

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely unimaginable to me, but very cool because I beting

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<v Speaker 1>great sound from President Trump talking about how exciting, excited

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<v Speaker 1>America to have an American born pope. Obviously, any pope

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<v Speaker 1>cool to have somebody, you know, from Chicago and American,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're Catholic or not religious or not, what do

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<v Speaker 1>psycho that's an understatement. The left in Colorado has become

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<v Speaker 1>that Denver is pulling the license plate readers because they're

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, imagine that you could not have a clearer

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<v Speaker 1>choice between criminals and non criminals. And it's just again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost unimaginable, right, But they're so brazen about it.

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<v Speaker 1>the most obscene, immoral abuse of public power, repeated clear

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<v Speaker 1>choices in favor of people here illegally who have committed

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<v Speaker 1>serious crimes and against innocent citizens. I mean, you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>it is what is actually happening in Colorado. And the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party obviously feels and you tell me if you

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<v Speaker 1>think they're right, but they obviously feel that they are

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<v Speaker 1>electorally bulletproof. It's not going to make any difference whatsoever

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason they do it.

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<v Speaker 1>In part is because the big money for Democrat candidates,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be talking about some more of those stats today,

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<v Speaker 1>it just fits with all of these other stats, confirming

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<v Speaker 1>what common sense would tell you that if you have

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<v Speaker 1>now you do those things, well, then the state is

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<v Speaker 1>going to go steadily downhill. And it's just like going bankrupt,

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<v Speaker 1>right to go bankrupt slowly and then all at once,

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<v Speaker 1>And that is the clear trajectory Colorado is on now.

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<v Speaker 2>As awful as the left is.

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<v Speaker 1>They cannot overnight just make our amazing natural, God given

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<v Speaker 1>could possibly be given all of the natural advantages we have.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is clearly headed that direction. But are they

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<v Speaker 1>right that the voters they just don't care. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they care, they don't like it, this and that, But

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean they're going to vote for the Republican.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that where we're at right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that is their bet, that is their bet they

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<v Speaker 1>can get away with anything, because no matter what, the

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<v Speaker 1>voters are not going to elect Republicans statewide. Love your

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<v Speaker 1>take on that? Three or three someone three eight two

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<v Speaker 1>five five texts d An five seven seven three nine. Personally,

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<v Speaker 1>that they which to some of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Won't matter right because to me, this is one.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the most disheartening things about what has happened to

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party in America when I was part of

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<v Speaker 1>most of my extended family, all my extended family in

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<v Speaker 1>the Chicago area, they're all Democrats. But I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>when most Democrats and the Democratic Party were faith based.

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<v Speaker 1>And now the Democratic Party is largely controlled by hardcore

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<v Speaker 2>So you get that going. And those those kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>People, I mean secular, they don't care often about whether

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<v Speaker 2>That just doesn't make any difference to them.

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<v Speaker 1>So, but what you have right now is this situation

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<v Speaker 1>where they have bet the voters of Colorado just are

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<v Speaker 1>not going to vote Republican no matter what. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they've overplayed their hand, and I think the right GOP

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<v Speaker 1>candidates because we've got a governor's race and a Senate

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<v Speaker 1>race that normally, under normal conditions would be full throttle

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<v Speaker 1>right now, right, it'd just be going crazy right now,

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<v Speaker 1>But there's very little interest because nobody thinks the Republican

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<v Speaker 1>its hand. You know, right candidate right campaign rights support,

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<v Speaker 1>which means listen, nobody can win right short of the

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<v Speaker 1>Good Lord coming down himself, and Boyd with the Colorado

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Short of the Good Lord coming down, it's say himself.

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<v Speaker 1>No GOP candidate can win without a unified Republican party,

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<v Speaker 1>without a unified Republican voter block in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe if those stars align, Yeah, I think the Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>presumptive nominee Michael Bennett, not a Democrat, an Aristocrat and

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<v Speaker 1>somebody I think the people of Colorado Wood reject would

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<v Speaker 1>reject if they had the right alternative and the right

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<v Speaker 1>campaign behind it. Love your thoughts on all that, including

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<v Speaker 1>the new Pope. What do you want to see from

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<v Speaker 1>the new Pope? And one of our favorite conservatives, Ty Winner,

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Pope.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been talking about that a bit, particularly since these

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<v Speaker 1>from Chicago and we were in seminary at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>Back there was a couple of years ahead of me,

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<v Speaker 2>but we were.

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<v Speaker 1>At two different Catholic seminaries, which is weird because his

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<v Speaker 1>parish assumption was just a few miles down the road

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<v Speaker 1>from my seminary, But just mind blowing that does somebody

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<v Speaker 1>from Chicago quis no pope, but I think he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be great.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, let's go to one of our favorite people.

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<v Speaker 1>Assistant Minority Leader Ty Winter joins us again on the

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Kapla Show. Ty, I'm pretty impressed that you're still saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can't imagine working down there and you

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<v Speaker 1>have all of this just obnoxious, arrogant lunacy going on

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<v Speaker 1>from the left. So what's your secret? Is it, Tony Robbins?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it chemical? I mean, what do you do to

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<v Speaker 1>stay sane down there?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, mister Kaplis. It's the people. And I don't mean

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<v Speaker 4>that to sound cheesy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, when you travel throughout these districts and you

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<v Speaker 4>have hard work and good, honest people come up to

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<v Speaker 4>you and say, hey, keep fighting and keep doing what

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<v Speaker 4>you're doing. I think that's what drives most of us.

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<v Speaker 4>At least that's what drives me. So I would say,

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<v Speaker 4>it's the people and then trying to fight for what's right.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's one thing our caucus did this year.

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<v Speaker 4>We were united in the fight. You know, like everybody,

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<v Speaker 4>we have our little family arguments, but we found the

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<v Speaker 4>way to stay united when we needed to, and we

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<v Speaker 4>got a lot of things done. So I think it

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<v Speaker 4>was a successful year for the Mighty twenty two and

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<v Speaker 4>it was honored to stand with those twenty one other

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<v Speaker 4>Republicans in the fight to save the soul of Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, right, And I think if I remember the Bible, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fight, the good fight, finished the race. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, many of the greatest figures in history, right,

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<v Speaker 1>have been people who have fought the good fight against

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<v Speaker 1>seemingly impossible odds. And the w may not have come

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<v Speaker 1>during their season, but it helped pave the way for it.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are the big highlights?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Whilst you know, we're really excited about being

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<v Speaker 4>able to push off the Table resolution, I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>people say that there's way more than them than us,

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<v Speaker 4>and they had the votes to do what they wanted.

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<v Speaker 4>But by us activating the public in the citizenry and

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<v Speaker 4>having people reach out and write off BIS and then

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<v Speaker 4>they were coming after Tabor, I mean it activated the

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<v Speaker 4>people of Colorado because you know, people are starting to

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<v Speaker 4>realize that the Democrats use fees and enterprise is to

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<v Speaker 4>skirt around tabor, and they see that they have priority

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<v Speaker 4>problems in Colorado, and I don't think people wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>give them the pin to their debit cards. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that was a win for us. I think,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, as strong as we fought even though we

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<v Speaker 4>weren't able to kill them, as strong as we fought

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<v Speaker 4>for parental rights in thirteen twelve, and as strong as

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<v Speaker 4>we fought for the second Amendment on Senate Bill three.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's just so many examples of this caucus just

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<v Speaker 4>getting up every day and you know, fighting for you know,

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<v Speaker 4>basic rights are unalienable, God given rights, and just fighting

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<v Speaker 4>I think we did a really good job of litigating

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<v Speaker 4>So those are definitely some highlights the year without getting

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<v Speaker 1>Now, kid Winter, I guess a system menory leaders, So

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<v Speaker 1>ty here out there, you know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>What's it going to take to get.

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<v Speaker 1>To the point where the people of Colorado are going

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<v Speaker 4>I think people believe in our ideas. I think we

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<v Speaker 4>in the state. We've seen it numerous times when Minority

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<v Speaker 4>Leader Paglivi and Don Wilson, who was a representative last year,

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<v Speaker 4>were able to get the question called up to the

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<v Speaker 4>ballot to see if we wanted to stay in the

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<v Speaker 4>Convention or if we wanted to break off and be

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<v Speaker 4>separate and have where the state of Colorado doesn't join

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<v Speaker 4>the Electoral College. Sorry about that, Dan, I was spoken all, oh, yeah, no, no, sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>it's been a long day. The day of Colorado would

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<v Speaker 4>be able to not have to worry about the electroc

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<v Speaker 4>college issue, and the grassroots did that and they were

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<v Speaker 4>able to come strong. So I think, I mean elevating

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<v Speaker 4>and highlighting the grassroots. We've got to get out the

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<v Speaker 4>fundraising machine. The Democrats spend way more money than us,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's unfortunate, but at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 4>that's how it works.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have to.

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<v Speaker 4>Activate the fundraising machine. We have to recruit quality candidates.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we need candidates that have life experience, job experience,

439
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<v Speaker 4>because those are the experience that we'll find out that

440
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<v Speaker 4>are resonate with voters at the door. So I think

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<v Speaker 4>if we get that ground game strong, we go recruit

442
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<v Speaker 4>good candidates, we activate the grassroots, We educate the populace

443
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<v Speaker 4>about what's happening happening to them by government and not

444
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<v Speaker 4>for government for them. I think people are ready to

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<v Speaker 4>take a swing, and you know, some people think it's

446
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<v Speaker 4>a while from now, but I think we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>gain some more ground in the next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Sir boy, the opportunities, sure, they're right. I mean, it

449
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<v Speaker 1>seems to me one of the big challenges is getting

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<v Speaker 1>past what seems to be this strong belief that the

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<v Speaker 1>GOP just can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Win stay wide.

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<v Speaker 1>So it seems like a lot of the big money

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<v Speaker 1>guys and gales they won't get in at this point

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<v Speaker 1>because that's.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how they got a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>Right many of them is making good bets and they

458
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<v Speaker 1>just don't see the GOP is a good bet right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's going to take somebody to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of break through all that get in a position where

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like they can win, and then then I

462
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<v Speaker 1>think it's a GOP could just pick off one of

463
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<v Speaker 1>these big state wide races and show it's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I think it all loosens up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent, sir, and

466
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<v Speaker 4>I think those candidates are out there. I do think

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<v Speaker 4>that people in this state are starting to pay attention

468
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<v Speaker 4>because when life starts to get hard, people are going

469
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<v Speaker 4>to pay attention. I mean we literally hear stories of

470
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<v Speaker 4>people digging through the couch cushions to get changed by

471
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<v Speaker 4>gas to go to work, and I mean at some

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<v Speaker 4>point people are going to wake up. So I think

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<v Speaker 4>you're right. I think if we find a really good candidate,

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<v Speaker 4>we're able to activate all the other things. I think

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<v Speaker 4>we do have a solid chance, but it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>take a lot of work, but I think our ideas

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<v Speaker 4>are going to be the idea that prevails in the end.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that we have the commons dense ideas around

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<v Speaker 4>the nuclear family, around finances, around safety, but messaging that

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<v Speaker 4>is another thing. And then you know, like you said,

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<v Speaker 4>unfortunately the people of Colorado have had to deal with

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit that's kind of jerked their attention into

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<v Speaker 4>the political realm.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my brother, if it was just about ideas, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the GOP would win every race statewide. Right. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, as a former Democrat myself, I think

487
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<v Speaker 1>there are so many people who just have this wrong

488
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<v Speaker 1>stereotype about Republicans that you know, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get any help from the media defeating that. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, it's just going to be a tougher

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<v Speaker 1>fight for us, but we found a way before we

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<v Speaker 1>will again. And yeah, I appreciate all the work you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing in the trenches because again that has to be

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<v Speaker 1>brutal down there, but you and your colleagues you just

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<v Speaker 1>keep showing up and fighting hard and accomplishing them probably

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<v Speaker 1>about as much as anybody ever could.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, thank you and thank you for paying attention and

498
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<v Speaker 4>all the people that pray for us and come and

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<v Speaker 4>support us, and the people that come into fight, because

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<v Speaker 4>that's all woven into the story. And I think they

501
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<v Speaker 4>have a little bit louder voice because their constituents can

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<v Speaker 4>make it down to the capital so easy and testify.

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<v Speaker 4>But those of our constituents that drive in from you know,

504
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<v Speaker 4>al Paso County, all the nine counties in my district,

505
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<v Speaker 4>from all over in Colorado and they tell their story,

506
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<v Speaker 4>that helps us a lot because they need to hear

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<v Speaker 4>those stories outside the metroplits. So you know, sir, I

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<v Speaker 4>appreciate the kind words. Just know that the Mighty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>two are going to keep showing up. We're going to

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<v Speaker 4>keep fighting. We're going to hit the roads running this summer.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to get out, we're going to talk to

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<v Speaker 4>our constituents, and we're going to cheap trying to move

513
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<v Speaker 4>the needle. Like you said, because we don't own the media,

514
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<v Speaker 4>they're not favorable to us. There's so many things stacked

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<v Speaker 4>against us. But at the end of the day, sir,

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<v Speaker 4>we're gonna win. I have that feeling, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you mentioned it earlier about being on the ground floor

518
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<v Speaker 4>of something, and you may not be the one that

519
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<v Speaker 4>gets it over the finish line. But you know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>being the cornerstone is, you know, the most important part

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<v Speaker 4>to a good foundation. So I hope that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you are all seeing that we're going to continue to

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<v Speaker 4>be that cornerstone and we're going to start to lay

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<v Speaker 4>the foundation for you to get that Republican candidate in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think, looking at it, logically, you've already won,

526
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<v Speaker 1>right because I think people who stand up against evil things,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not calling any of your political opponents evil,

528
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<v Speaker 1>but they're pushing a lot of truly evil things. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that big picture, people who stand up against

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<v Speaker 1>evil things, especially against long odds, have already won in

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<v Speaker 1>the most important sense. Now it's just a matter of

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<v Speaker 1>just translating that into some legislative victories. But again, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for all you do and look forward to the next conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, sir.

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate you having me on. It was good hearing

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<v Speaker 4>from you, and I look forward to the next conversation

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<v Speaker 4>as well. Have a good evening.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, Ty, take care.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Ty Winner, Assistant Minority Leader, and I know Ty,

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<v Speaker 1>outside of all this stuff, good guy, and they've really

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there are a lot of good people working

542
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<v Speaker 1>really hard down there, but obviously still a lot of

543
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<v Speaker 1>very nasty stuff and some of it flat evil happening.

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<v Speaker 2>And will be digging back into all of that shortly.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm getting a lot of text I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get to some of those in calls as well on

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<v Speaker 1>the new Pope and first one obviously born in America,

548
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<v Speaker 1>And what do you want to see from the new Pope?

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<v Speaker 2>You're on the Dan Capla Show.

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<v Speaker 3>And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast three or.

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<v Speaker 1>Three someone three eight two five five text an five

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<v Speaker 1>seven seven three nine. Obviously I'm talking about baseball there.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to have the new pope, right, What do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to see from the new pope? Whether you're

555
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<v Speaker 1>Catholic or not Christian, or not faithful or not, what

556
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<v Speaker 1>do you want to see from the new pope? Because

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<v Speaker 1>popes aren't happening to be Catholic, but pope's take on

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<v Speaker 1>a world importance as well, some more than others, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think in modern times the pinnacle of that pope

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<v Speaker 1>John Paul the Second, now Saint John Paul the Great.

561
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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, what do you want to see from this pope?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get to some text calls as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about much more. And you know, Sho, I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been on this week at all. I've been in

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<v Speaker 1>trial down in Colorado Springs. Tremendous experience and grateful to

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<v Speaker 1>everybody who filled in, Sheriff Steve Raims and KBB and

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<v Speaker 1>Heidi and so.

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<v Speaker 2>Grateful for that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, well, one of the weirdest things because I've

570
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<v Speaker 1>been trying cases for forty years and it's just one

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<v Speaker 1>of the coolest things you can imagine, and then doing

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<v Speaker 1>jury selection and meeting all these people from different areas

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<v Speaker 1>in the state, and so we're in there with my

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful client and everything's rolling, and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we lose our alternate and then we lose

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<v Speaker 1>a jury jury illness And every other case I've tried

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<v Speaker 1>for forty years, when you get down below six years

578
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<v Speaker 1>sybil is six felony twelve. When you get down below six,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's just agreed to go forward with five. But in

580
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<v Speaker 1>this case, the other side did not agree to go

581
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<v Speaker 1>forward with five, and so the court had no choice

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<v Speaker 1>but to end the trial like right in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of it. And so, boy, that's a new experience. I

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<v Speaker 1>never want to have again. But my wonderful client is

585
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<v Speaker 1>an amazing person, a fighter, and we're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>back and tee it up again in a couple of months.

587
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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so thank you to all of those who

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<v Speaker 1>have done such a great job this week while I

589
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<v Speaker 1>have been off in trial. Before I get to the

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<v Speaker 1>phone lines, a Texter says, Dan, are you saying you

591
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<v Speaker 1>don't know many Christian Democrats? Not at all, Not at all.

592
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<v Speaker 1>Some of the best Christians I know are Democrats. What

593
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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying is that you have an awsul lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people voting for Democrats out of habit.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of habit.

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<v Speaker 1>They were born into a family that voted Democrat. They

597
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<v Speaker 1>voted Democrat out of habits. It doesn't mean they like

598
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<v Speaker 1>what the Democratic Party's doing. So many people just aren't

599
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<v Speaker 1>actively engaged politically every day, right, They're not like the

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<v Speaker 1>folks listening to this show, no matter what side of

601
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<v Speaker 1>the aisle they're on, and so they're just not dialed

602
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<v Speaker 1>into the fact that, you know, hey, the Democratic Party

603
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<v Speaker 1>isn't what it used to be. It isn't your mom

604
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<v Speaker 1>or your grandmother's Democratic Party. It's become taken over by

605
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<v Speaker 1>the hardcore secular left. And so yeah, a lot of

606
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<v Speaker 1>people voting Democrat who they're aware of some things that

607
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<v Speaker 1>are happening, but they're not dialed into that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the big thing, and I'm telling you this as a

609
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<v Speaker 1>former Democrat, there's no denying this is true. You have

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<v Speaker 1>this untrue stereotype about Republicans, which is the biggest thing

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<v Speaker 1>that keeps many Democrats Democrats, because what percentage of Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>do you really think are these hardcore lefties you know,

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<v Speaker 1>who you're never going to get They they just want

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<v Speaker 1>more of a socialist country and all this other garbage.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably a third at most. The other two thirds, No, they're.

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<v Speaker 1>They're sane, patriotic, good reasonable people, and so many have

617
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<v Speaker 1>just grown up with this untrue, negative stereotype of Republicans.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are the things we've got to overcome. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean they're some kind of heathens, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>then part of the burdens on the GOP, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know we've got a tougher fight on the GOP.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been part of both parties who've got an uphill

623
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<v Speaker 1>battle when you're GOP because the media is against you,

624
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<v Speaker 1>makes it tougher to get the truth out there about

625
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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats and the good truth about the Republicans.

626
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<v Speaker 2>But you know what, we can't wind. We just have

627
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<v Speaker 2>to find a way to win. We just have to

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<v Speaker 2>be better.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan, I read where the new pope is a staunch

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<v Speaker 1>Trump hater. Those are not words I would choose. I

631
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<v Speaker 1>think that as a cardinal, and even before becoming a cardinal,

632
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<v Speaker 1>now hoopefully on the fourteenth was hey.

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<v Speaker 2>He tweeted a lot, and he was.

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<v Speaker 1>Very direct and very plain spoken. Disagrees with certain things

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump has done on immigration. He's just disagreed with JD.

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<v Speaker 1>Vance on certain Catholic philosophies. So in that sense, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>is there an opposition on policy. I think there clearly is.

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<v Speaker 1>But when it comes to now this new role as Pope,

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<v Speaker 1>I would expect him to be I'd expect him to

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<v Speaker 1>be very balanced and listen, I don't expect a president

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<v Speaker 1>who I am really grateful for and I think has

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<v Speaker 1>done some phenomenally tremendous things to always agree with the pope.

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<v Speaker 1>And I certainly don't expect the Pope to tailor anything

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<v Speaker 1>to politics, but I can admire most both well clearly

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<v Speaker 1>come on in terms.

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<v Speaker 2>Of in terms of priorities there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you talk about God and you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about eternity and you talk about my faith, my faith

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<v Speaker 1>comes light years before my politics. My faith is exponentially

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<v Speaker 1>more important to me than my politics. But I see

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<v Speaker 1>both blending together very very well. As I think that

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump and Pope Leo the fourteenth, I think will

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<v Speaker 1>end up finding an awful lot of common ground. And

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<v Speaker 1>I love the comments that President Trump had today about

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<v Speaker 1>the Pope. All positive and all forward looking and all

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to meeting the Pope. And you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was funny I read this one comment.

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<v Speaker 2>About when.

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<v Speaker 1>Pope Leo the fourteenth visit the White House, not how

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<v Speaker 1>it works. Popes don't visit the White House no matter

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<v Speaker 1>who the president is, which party they're from. If a

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<v Speaker 1>president wants to meet the Pope, the president goes to

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<v Speaker 1>the Vatican. And whether President Trump chooses to do that

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<v Speaker 1>or not, I sure hope he does. And again, I

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<v Speaker 1>loved President Trump's comments today about the Pope, and I

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<v Speaker 1>would bet you they they find a way to accomplish

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of good things together, starting with starting with

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<v Speaker 1>blessed are the peacemakers right? And on that absolutely vital,

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<v Speaker 1>innocent human life issue. Trump is a peacemaker. He has

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<v Speaker 1>proven that he approaches at peace through strength. He is

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<v Speaker 1>a peacemaker. Popes are peacemakers. I have no doubt this

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<v Speaker 1>Pope is going to be peacemaker. Then you come to

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<v Speaker 1>innocent human life on a massive scale, like millions of

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<v Speaker 1>innocent human lives that are routinely slaughtered by abortion.

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<v Speaker 2>And Donald Trump has been.

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<v Speaker 1>An absolute champion of the unborn, and there is no

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<v Speaker 1>question this pope is a champion of the unborn. So

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<v Speaker 1>on those two vital issues at the core of Catholic teaching,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there is going to be nothing but common

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<v Speaker 1>ground when it comes to the Pope and President Trump.

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