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<v Speaker 1>Oh bed of the aar, and welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Cult of Conspiracy. And my name is Jonathan.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jacob, Jacob taking away my good sir brother.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that I have a very eclectic musical taste, right,

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<v Speaker 2>if you were to hit shuffle on my phone.

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<v Speaker 3>I said this a million times, but it's very true.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything from death metal to Mozart to Frank Sinatra to

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<v Speaker 2>old country because new country is trash and anything in between,

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably gonna play. There's probably gonna be some gangster rap.

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<v Speaker 2>There's probably gonna be some trap music. That's it's all

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<v Speaker 2>over the place.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>We've gone on car riots, We've gone on road trips,

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<v Speaker 2>and you look at me like I'm a fucking psychopath.

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<v Speaker 2>How my musical taste will shift song to song to

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<v Speaker 2>song Like there's no there's no vibe that I'm ever on.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro That Irish folk music just hits different on a

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<v Speaker 1>road trip, yo, it does.

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<v Speaker 2>Though Irish drinking music goes hard pretty much twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>to seven, you know. But so I am actually a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty prolific fan of classical music of opera, right. I

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<v Speaker 2>love Bach, I love Mozart, I love these old composers

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<v Speaker 2>that were musical geniuses.

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<v Speaker 3>Of their day and age.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and Mozart is a particularly interesting case study in

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<v Speaker 2>and of himself. Right, take all the other things you

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<v Speaker 2>hear about him. Yes, he was the absolute musical prodigy. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he was composing before I think it was like before

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<v Speaker 2>he hit puberty, he had already written his first whole composition.

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<v Speaker 2>He could pretty much play any instrument after watching it

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<v Speaker 2>be played for like thirty seconds, then he could jump

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<v Speaker 2>on it and play it like give a whole masterclass

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<v Speaker 2>on it. Essentially, it just the man had God given

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<v Speaker 2>talent when it came to the musical art form.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, what is going on today? That is the second

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<v Speaker 1>time that you brought up something that I was just

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<v Speaker 1>recently like looking into. Well, I mean you mentioned something

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<v Speaker 1>earlier that we'll talk about later, and that was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a weird coincidence, and then you mentioned like classical music, Beethoven, Bach, Mozart,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of shit. I just saw a video last night.

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<v Speaker 1>I got really fucking baked, right, and you know my

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<v Speaker 1>nightly ritual. I saw this video and this guy was like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying what it is. I just want you

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<v Speaker 1>to go and listen to it. He goes, listen to

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<v Speaker 1>Beethoven's Seventh Symphony, second movement marked out Greto, and he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>just close your eyes and see where it takes you.

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<v Speaker 1>And he believes that that is proof that we live

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<v Speaker 1>in a simulate, like some kind of simulation or a

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<v Speaker 1>matrix or something like that, because your mind literally takes

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<v Speaker 1>you to another place. Whenever you listen to this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of music, which I listened to it, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>am I just high? Or am I going someplace right now?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's wild. It really does take you on some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of It's like a guided journey, almost without words.

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<v Speaker 3>I fully agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know Beethoven's Seventh Symphony very well and I fucking

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<v Speaker 2>love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Beethoven was a lot better before he went

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<v Speaker 2>to death. Don't get me wrong with the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>he was still able to compose masterpieces that we still

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<v Speaker 2>listen to today after he went in death, just off

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<v Speaker 2>of the vibrations that he could feel in his chest,

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<v Speaker 2>and he would know how that music would resonate regard

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<v Speaker 2>like that's That's what I'm saying. There is a level

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<v Speaker 2>of not even intellect, there's intuition, there is, there is

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<v Speaker 2>real God given talent beyond the scope of something that

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<v Speaker 2>can be learned. That some of these composers from back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day were really on one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the internal intelligence that is within all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>How does does a deaf person hear in their dreams?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, does a deaf person hear their thoughts? I

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<v Speaker 1>would imagine they do, right, And it's that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sixth sense or whatever it is that probably

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<v Speaker 1>allowed him to compose music whenever he was deaf.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And we've said this a million times and has

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<v Speaker 2>been confirmed by all metrics.

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<v Speaker 3>Existence is nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>More than vibrations and frequencies, right, And I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>on some spiritual woo woo talk on that. That's just

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<v Speaker 2>the fact of the matter atoms vibrating or what make

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<v Speaker 2>up the entirety of the matter around us. Whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>the air you're breathing, or whether it's the vape in

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<v Speaker 2>your hand, or your phone or your heart beating whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all a series of atoms that are vibrating at

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<v Speaker 2>certain rates and certain frequencies to make up physical matter

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<v Speaker 2>of solid, liquid, gas, plasma.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the realm that we live in. So to

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<v Speaker 3>say that music which is literally vibrations in motion that

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<v Speaker 3>can make you feel a type of way. And I

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<v Speaker 3>know that depends on the person. There are some people

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<v Speaker 3>that will listen to opera music and be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>this is garbage, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>But then there's other people that an opera will literally

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<v Speaker 2>bring them to tears, right, and it is everything in between.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody has felt something from a song in their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter if it's classical whatever. I mean. I

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<v Speaker 1>I know grown men that cry like babies listening to

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<v Speaker 1>country music. You know, it's like, and not not to

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<v Speaker 1>make fun of anybody, I mean, it's just something that

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<v Speaker 1>is happening to your body that's taken you to a

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<v Speaker 1>place in your mind that you know it maybe brings

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<v Speaker 1>up a past memory or that time you heard that

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<v Speaker 1>song in that moment that you wish you had back

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh bro, I still can't listen to Landslide by Stevie

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<v Speaker 2>Nicks without crying still to this day. That's that I

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<v Speaker 2>only have like three songs that like instantaneously I will

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<v Speaker 2>tear up.

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<v Speaker 3>Landslide is one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>D dude, I'm that same way with a Pearl jam

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<v Speaker 1>last kiss.

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<v Speaker 3>Yup, I get it?

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<v Speaker 1>Where oh where came up?

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<v Speaker 3>Bababy.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never even had somebody like, I'm not even gonna

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<v Speaker 1>put that out in the universe, but yeah, it's a yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some music just does it to you.

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<v Speaker 2>So with that being said, this morning, as I was

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<v Speaker 2>contemplating the things I wanted to get researched in on right,

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<v Speaker 2>I was walking through Barnes and Nobles, just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>mine in my business. I'm perusing there's some some halloween

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<v Speaker 2>books out in the kids section. I thought, maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>can get my kids a cute little halloween book, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the little uh you're my most favoritest ghosty

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<v Speaker 2>or something, these little cute little books. And I look

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<v Speaker 2>over in another section and I see this book called

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<v Speaker 2>The Magic Flute, and it dawned on me. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>hoh on, I know that that's a story. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>very old story. And I was trying to remember, is

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<v Speaker 2>that like like an Asop's Fables type of thing. Is

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<v Speaker 2>this a Brother's Grim type of thing?

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<v Speaker 3>What is it? So I did a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>research into it.

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<v Speaker 2>The Magic Flute is actually a story that was posed

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<v Speaker 2>by Wolfgang Amadeus.

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<v Speaker 3>Mozart in the late seventeen hundreds.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it is an opera, and it is a very

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<v Speaker 2>famous story that has been told over and over and

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<v Speaker 2>over again.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought that was interesting. Cool. I guess they

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<v Speaker 3>made it into a children's book.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of the themes are a little bit on the

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<v Speaker 2>fantastical side of things, and it would probably make a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty solid children's book. Then I saw this little excerpt

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<v Speaker 2>that said that there was a lot of controversy surrounding

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<v Speaker 2>this particular composition, And then I found myself on a

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<v Speaker 2>deep dive to show that this entire play, this entire opera,

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<v Speaker 2>was an homage to the initiation practices of Freemasons.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever heard of such things, Jonathan?

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<v Speaker 1>I have never, But I'm I can't say that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>too surprised because they get down with some weird shit

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<v Speaker 1>they do.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, so buckle up, everybody, let's get into it here.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a couple of videos that are gonna play

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<v Speaker 2>very short, very very short videos. Got some articles are

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<v Speaker 2>going to read that are going to talk about Mozart's background,

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<v Speaker 2>where the Freemasons do tie into this play opera rather,

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<v Speaker 2>how many operas are masonically based what do the Masons

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<v Speaker 2>feel about music in itself right? Or is it just

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<v Speaker 2>us as a series of vibrations to be used during

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<v Speaker 2>a ritual? Or is there some real magic with a

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<v Speaker 2>k that is being used in a lot of our

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<v Speaker 2>music that we listen to today We're.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to get into all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Some things that you should probably see for yourself would

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<v Speaker 2>be the videos talking about the magic flutes, if you

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<v Speaker 2>would like to see these rather than just hear the

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<v Speaker 2>talks about them.

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<v Speaker 3>Jonathan, Where can they go?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, check us out. Yeah. And also before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into this video, I just want to throw this out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, maybe I was just real late

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of remembered that I learned it not that

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<v Speaker 1>long ago. But the term universe literally means one song.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that? I mean universe like one verse verse, so,

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<v Speaker 1>and it says it suggests harmonious and interconnected existence. This

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<v Speaker 1>interpretation and emphasizes unity and the idea that everything in

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<v Speaker 1>the universe is part of a single, cohesive, whole universe.

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<v Speaker 3>Very very interesting, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. I love that etymological breakdown of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, all right, real quick, this is a three

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<v Speaker 2>minute overall synopsis of Mozart's Magic Flute for anybody who

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<v Speaker 2>has never seen the opera. There's a few key songs

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<v Speaker 2>have heard at some point in your life, just because

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<v Speaker 2>you live in modern society. Right, there's a few, a

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<v Speaker 2>few songs, right, they have made their way into very

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<v Speaker 3>Cartoons because they are so iconic.

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<v Speaker 2>So with that being said, here is the overarching plot

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<v Speaker 2>to Mozarts the Magic Flute.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's Go the Magic Flute is a fairy tale with

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<v Speaker 4>themes of love and good versus evil. The opera is

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<v Speaker 4>divided into two acts. In Act one, Tomino, a prince,

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<v Speaker 4>is alone in the woods fleeing from a deadly serpent.

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<v Speaker 4>He faints but is saved by three ladies who are

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<v Speaker 4>the attendants of the Queen of the Knight. Tomino wakes

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<v Speaker 4>up and here's someone coming. It's Popagano, a bird catcher.

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<v Speaker 4>Tomino assumes that it was Popagano who saved him, and

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<v Speaker 4>the two become friends. The three ladies return and explain

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<v Speaker 4>that it was they who's save Tomino, and they give

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<v Speaker 4>him a picture of Pamina, the Queen of the Knight's daughter.

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<v Speaker 4>Tomino falls in love with the portrait, but is told

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<v Speaker 4>Tomino vows to rescue Pamina. Hearing this, the queen arrives

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<v Speaker 4>and offers Tomino her daughter's hand in marriage if he

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<v Speaker 4>is successful to aid in their quest. Tomino is given

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<v Speaker 4>a magic flute, and Papagano is given a set of

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<v Speaker 4>magic bells. Tomino and Papagano are led to Zarastro's temple

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<v Speaker 4>by three spirits. Papagano scouts ahead. He finds Pomina and

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<v Speaker 4>reassures her that she will soon be rescued. Tomino sneaks

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<v Speaker 4>They all run into Ziostro and his followers. It turns

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<v Speaker 4>out that Zerostro is kind and wise, and he insists

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<v Speaker 4>that Tomino must undergo a series of tests to prove

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<v Speaker 4>himself worthy of Pomina. Enact two, with the series of

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<v Speaker 4>from her evil mother, the Queen of the Knight, because

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<v Speaker 4>Tomino and Pemina are meant to be together. Popagano is

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<v Speaker 4>also promised a wife if he successfully can completes the trials.

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<v Speaker 4>In preparation, they must remain silent. Tomino and Papagano are

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<v Speaker 4>not allowed to speak. Meanwhile, the Queen appears before Pamina

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<v Speaker 4>and tries to convince her to kill Ziostro. The Queen

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<v Speaker 4>sings her famous aria d'arho luraja, which translates as a

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<v Speaker 4>hellish rage burns in my heart. But the Queen of

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<v Speaker 4>the Knight's efforts are in vain. Tomino and Pamina meet again,

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<v Speaker 4>but because he is not allowed to speak, Pamina fears

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<v Speaker 4>Tomino no longer loves her. The three spirits reassure Pamina

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<v Speaker 4>that Tomino does love her. Tomino declares he is ready

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<v Speaker 4>to be tested, and together with Pamina, faces the trials

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<v Speaker 4>of water and fire. With the aid of the eponymous

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<v Speaker 4>magic flute. They are successful. Papagano meanwhile plays his magic

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<v Speaker 4>bells and his destined wife, Papagana appears. He is filled

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<v Speaker 4>with joy. Papagano and Papa againa seeing their signature duet.

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<v Speaker 4>The Queen of the Night is angered by everyone's love

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<v Speaker 4>and success. She returns to destroy the temple, but she

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<v Speaker 4>is cast out into the darkness forever. All is well,

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<v Speaker 4>everyone is thankful, and they watched the sunrise together. And

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<v Speaker 4>that is the story of the Magic Flute.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was a few of those musical notes that

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<v Speaker 2>you probably have recognized at some point in time, because

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<v Speaker 2>it's just very iconic.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't help but think of Mario and Luigi trying

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<v Speaker 1>to go save Peach from Bowser that whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very possible that that was a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>the inspiration. I don't know that for a fact, but

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<v Speaker 2>that also would check out. Now, I do want to

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<v Speaker 2>make mention of something, right, we have a Queen of

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<v Speaker 2>the Night figure who presents herself as the good guy

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<v Speaker 2>whose daughter was kidnapped by Dister, the evil king of

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<v Speaker 2>the day. Right, he's like a son king and she's

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<v Speaker 2>a Queen of the Knight. Real quick, before we go

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<v Speaker 2>any further, are we seeing a little bit of dichotomy, right?

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<v Speaker 2>A sun being a male figure, the moon being a

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<v Speaker 2>female figure.

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<v Speaker 3>The daytime being the nighttime being all these things.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we have Zoraster, who is very very close to Zorasthustra,

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<v Speaker 2>which was a Zoroastrian guy or deity prophet for lack

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<v Speaker 2>of better words, but he represents the East right and

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<v Speaker 2>possibly Eastern philosophies.

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<v Speaker 3>The Queen of the Nights.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna talk about who she represents here in a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, but my point is, you also notice there

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot of symbolisms of threes, right, three women

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<v Speaker 2>that saved him, three spirits that kept guiding him. These

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<v Speaker 2>types of things, this trial that took place, all of

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<v Speaker 2>these things are gonna come a little more into.

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<v Speaker 3>Focus as we get through this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very, very cult like for sure, nothing wrong with that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just symbolism, is really what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>But to the people that would not know any different

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<v Speaker 2>if I never told you any of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>just pointed out, that seems like a very good story

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<v Speaker 2>and opera. There were some themes that were being presented,

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<v Speaker 2>but nothing outside of the realm of what you might call,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, fantasy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a story with multiple levels. A little kid can

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<v Speaker 1>can you know, see that story and take it at

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<v Speaker 1>face value whatever is in front of the kid. And

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<v Speaker 1>the older you get, the more dare I say, initiated

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<v Speaker 1>you become, and you know, more enlightened you are. You

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<v Speaker 1>can see the forest through the trees.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, indeed, so real quick, we're just gonna look at

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<v Speaker 2>the brief overview on the wiki about The Magic Flute.

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<v Speaker 2>The Magic Flute is an opera in two acts by

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<v Speaker 2>Wolfgang Amades Mozart to a German libretto by Emmanuel Schitznader,

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<v Speaker 2>probably mispronouncing that it is a singspiel, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>popular form that includes booth singing and spoken dialogue. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't what we'd say, possibly like what we call today

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<v Speaker 2>a musical, right, like you see a movie that's a musical.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some spoken dialogue and then they'll break out in

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<v Speaker 2>a song. For reasons, right, This is more or less

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<v Speaker 2>a modern rendition of a singspiel, which Mozart was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of one of the pioneers of the work. Premiered on

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<v Speaker 2>the thirtieth of September seventeen ninety one at that theater

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<v Speaker 2>and the Frauhause Theater aufder.

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<v Speaker 3>Veeden in Vienna. Okay, so this all took place in Austria.

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<v Speaker 2>This is also very very important the location that this

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<v Speaker 2>took place, because at the time when this was going down,

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<v Speaker 2>Austria was being ran by the Holy Roman Impress, which

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get to in a bit, who was not very

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<v Speaker 2>fond of Freemasons or Protestants or Jews, even though her

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<v Speaker 2>husband was Francis the First of Austria, was a zealous

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<v Speaker 2>free She like hated it for all these reasons. We

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<v Speaker 2>will talk about it later, but we have to keep

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<v Speaker 2>in mind Mozart didn't just do things just to do them.

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<v Speaker 3>He did things with a purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, whether that purpose was to entertain that is still

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<v Speaker 2>a purpose, right.

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<v Speaker 3>If it was to convey a message, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Fine, if it was to be a slight at the

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<v Speaker 2>royalty in charge at that time, while also acting as

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<v Speaker 2>a recruiting tool for his Masonic lodge. Because Mozart was

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<v Speaker 2>in fact a free mason, this was kind of one

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<v Speaker 2>of those killed two birds of one stone thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>then he goes ahead and puts down one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most iconic plays operas ever composed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and honestly he I mean, he was a Freemason,

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<v Speaker 1>so he probably uh conducted the music as part of

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of ritual for freemasonry.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>We will get into that as well, absolutely, because freemasonry

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<v Speaker 2>has what they call working tools, right, and they're things

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<v Speaker 2>that you've seen before. The square, the plum, the compass,

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty four inch ruler which is supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>sectioned off into three equal sections for harmony, the trowel,

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<v Speaker 2>the gavel. They these are they're working tools right of

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<v Speaker 2>their craft. That being said, they also have other, for

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<v Speaker 2>lack of better words, quote unquote, tools that you would

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<v Speaker 2>use for your own spiritual enlightenment, for your own moral

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<v Speaker 2>development these types of things, and it's not a physical

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<v Speaker 2>gavel or a physical trowel. These are things that are

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<v Speaker 2>more like lessons that you can gain and apply to

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<v Speaker 2>your life. Does this makes sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, symbols that were always all around them and they

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<v Speaker 1>attached meaning to them, because you know, it's like, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not just gonna look at a you know, as you

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<v Speaker 1>said that, what was it a twenty four inch ruler

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, which, by the way, I just

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<v Speaker 1>heard something about the number eight as far as symbology goes.

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<v Speaker 1>So the number eight, a lot of people just look

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<v Speaker 1>at it as if it's like only stands for infinity.

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<v Speaker 1>But and not to say that that's not what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>but it also can be understood in another way to

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<v Speaker 1>where if you look at an eight, it usually whenever

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<v Speaker 1>you're making an eight, there's the smaller circle on top

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<v Speaker 1>and the bigger circle on the bottom, almost like the

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<v Speaker 1>microcosm on top of the on top of the macrocosm,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, like the unenlightened version of you on

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<v Speaker 1>top of the enlightened version of you. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>many different ways to be able to interpret it. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's just as far as the symbolism of just the

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<v Speaker 1>eight goes and that's section into three, which is pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>As you mentioned earlier that almost everything divinely is inspired

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<v Speaker 1>by the number three. So I don't know, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just that's my weird occult mind.

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<v Speaker 3>I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that's also the intention here, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>only heard it, and you might be completely correct as

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<v Speaker 2>far as like how the eight like you can see

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<v Speaker 2>right here on the eighteen fifteen, the little circle over

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<v Speaker 2>the big circle right.

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<v Speaker 3>I could see where you're going with that.

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<v Speaker 2>The way I heard it broke down was that eight

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<v Speaker 2>three times, and then that's infinity thrice. Right, we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about a trifecta or a triune of perfect infinities that

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<v Speaker 2>you would use for the harmonious balance thereof Now they say,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, in their esotericism, that this would be like

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<v Speaker 2>the three head of Father, Son, Holy Spirit, or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it depends on which side of masonry you're on, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're on the Christian esotericism or if you're on the

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<v Speaker 2>eastern side of it, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Either way it goes. That's how I heard it broke down.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very possible that there's levels within levels, just in

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty four inch that could be broken.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, anyway, that's just my way of looking at it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea how they look at it fair

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not even my way. It's just something that

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<v Speaker 1>I heard that I thought was.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting, no doubt. Okay, So back to it now.

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<v Speaker 2>It premiered on the thirtieth of September seventeen ninety one,

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<v Speaker 2>just two months before Mozart's death.

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<v Speaker 3>This was Mozart's last opera.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an outstanding success from its first performances, and

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<v Speaker 2>it remains a staple of the opera repertoire. In the opera,

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<v Speaker 2>the Queen of the Night persuades Prince Tomino to rescue

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<v Speaker 2>your daughter from captivity under the High Priest Sirostro.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they said Sarastro with a S.

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<v Speaker 2>But you could see the connection to Zora and Sora

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<v Speaker 2>there right, Like, it's not that far of a stretch

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<v Speaker 2>to say that this may have been a And especially

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<v Speaker 2>if you see the images of his temple.

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<v Speaker 3>Did that door not look very Eastern, very Arabic?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, for sure. I mean you take creative liberties

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<v Speaker 1>whenever you're making your own story.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure. For sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying he was I think that was also

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<v Speaker 2>most Art's way of showing the east versus West as

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<v Speaker 2>far as the philosophical conversation goes.

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<v Speaker 3>But I digress.

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<v Speaker 1>Smulti dimensional this conversation, dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead, he learns the high ideals of Sirostro's community and

446
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<v Speaker 2>seeks to join it separately. Then, together to Mino and Pamina,

447
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<v Speaker 2>undergo severe trials of initiation, which end in triumph when

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<v Speaker 2>with the queen and her cohorts vanquished, the earthly Pappagino,

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<v Speaker 2>who accompanies Tomino on his quest, fails the trials completely,

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<v Speaker 2>but is rewarded anyway with the hand of his ideal

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<v Speaker 2>female companion. So your boy with the bell has actually

452
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<v Speaker 2>failed the test, but he was still rewarded in the

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<v Speaker 2>end for being such a faithful companion. Anyway, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>need to get into the composition of it. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of what it is. I just wanted to show

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<v Speaker 2>that there was a background to it. All they actually

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<v Speaker 2>give on the Wikipedia page. They give a breakdown of

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<v Speaker 2>each act, each scene, all the things with it. But

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<v Speaker 2>we kind of heard the overarching themes in the video,

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<v Speaker 2>so there's no real need to, you know, go that

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<v Speaker 2>deep with it.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts on this kind of understanding like

463
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<v Speaker 1>multi dimensions to one story or to one song, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, almost for the initiated to get the entire picture,

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<v Speaker 1>like what do you think about this? And in general?

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<v Speaker 2>So and you know that I'm a Christian, right, I've

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<v Speaker 2>never been shy about this fact. I think that that

468
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<v Speaker 2>plays a lot in to everything. How many times have

469
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<v Speaker 2>you heard me say that context is key?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying that you need to be some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of an initiate to read the Bible, for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>at its entirety, but you do have to look at

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<v Speaker 2>it through a certain scope. If you're reading it like

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<v Speaker 2>a story, reading it just cover to cover, you're not

476
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<v Speaker 2>going to get anything out of it that's really supposed

477
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<v Speaker 2>to hit you hard. You do need to know the time,

478
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<v Speaker 2>the place, and the audience. You have to do research

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what this was supposed to mean to

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<v Speaker 2>this audience, to see what was supposed to be, like

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<v Speaker 2>what you were supposed to glean from it, what was

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<v Speaker 2>the actual message, not that it was like some sleight

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<v Speaker 2>of handwork, but you also have to know what you're

484
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<v Speaker 2>looking at to make sense of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that that is the way that this was.

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<v Speaker 2>Done, and there's tons of information like this, Like as

487
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<v Speaker 2>far as the Freemasons are concerned, the initiated, basically, they

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<v Speaker 2>just teach you how to look at things and see

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<v Speaker 2>what is actually being conveyed. They do that through a

490
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<v Speaker 2>series of secrets, right, And that's I get this one

491
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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent, But I mean that's the way it is

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<v Speaker 2>for a lot of things. Huck Finn that book, if

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<v Speaker 2>you were to read that today, you'll be questioning a

494
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<v Speaker 2>few very key points in the book. You need to

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<v Speaker 2>know what America was like during the day and age

496
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<v Speaker 2>that that book was written, Right. You need to understand

497
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<v Speaker 2>why this was so crazy? Why this wasn't that crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>Why do they keep calling this dude this word?

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<v Speaker 3>And John?

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<v Speaker 2>He could have just called him John, Like he didn't

501
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<v Speaker 2>need to keep calling him in word John the entire book.

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<v Speaker 3>That was unneeded.

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<v Speaker 2>But like you got to understand the time and the

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<v Speaker 2>place and the audience.

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<v Speaker 3>Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah? And I just you know, it just reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me of something that The reason why I asked that

508
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<v Speaker 1>is because you always say a quote, and you haven't

509
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<v Speaker 1>said it in a while, but there's this quote that

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<v Speaker 1>you always say. You don't give a baby meat, you know,

511
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<v Speaker 1>you give the baby the milk, right, And as far

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<v Speaker 1>as these kind of multi dimensional I don't even know

513
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<v Speaker 1>if that's the right term, but just like layered, level,

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<v Speaker 1>layered type of story, right, And I think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for the masses, most people are just gonna be They're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be totally happy just with that milk. And there's

517
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<v Speaker 1>nothing wrong with that. You don't need to go and

518
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<v Speaker 1>not everybody needs to go on some kind of spiritual

519
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<v Speaker 1>journey to understand the universe or understand God or anything

520
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<v Speaker 1>like that. But some people milk ain't enough, and some

521
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<v Speaker 1>people need that meat, and we need those veggies, and

522
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<v Speaker 1>we need that fucking Tony's on there. And while you're

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<v Speaker 1>at it, get me a cup of kianki, you know,

524
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<v Speaker 1>as Jim Carrey would say, it's like you need a

525
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<v Speaker 1>little bit of extra something because the milk is not enough.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like, you know, your boy Mozart probably

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<v Speaker 1>thought that way too.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>And the milk would be the synopsis we just heard, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the if you were just a person. Oh, Mozart just

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<v Speaker 2>dropped a new opera, bro, let's go check it out

532
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<v Speaker 2>this weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>What's up? It's dropping at the theater.

534
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<v Speaker 2>You go and see it, you'll lead there being like, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>that would tell me that was.

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<v Speaker 3>Not a banger of a show. Come on.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, if you were an initiated free Mason and you

538
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<v Speaker 2>went and solve this performance, you would be like, wow,

539
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<v Speaker 2>he really did encapsulate everything that goes into the initiation

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<v Speaker 2>practices and rituals of our order.

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<v Speaker 3>That was gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 1>A literal masterpiece. Yeah, right, and masterpiece.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the guy just saw it that didn't know anything

544
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<v Speaker 2>would look at you be like, what are you talking about?

545
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<v Speaker 3>Like that?

546
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<v Speaker 2>The story with the witch and the queen and the

547
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<v Speaker 2>what are you talking about the initiation.

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<v Speaker 3>To your order?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you this story? There's a fantasy And they'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like, m I'll bet you think so. I'll bet

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<v Speaker 2>you would think so.

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<v Speaker 1>That milk tastes good, don't it, Bud? Exactly. So with

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<v Speaker 1>that being said, let's go to another synopsis. This is

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<v Speaker 1>from the Ted Talk series where they do give a

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<v Speaker 1>brief synopfice of the play and then they break down

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<v Speaker 1>it's more Masonic, an esoteric and occult meaning. Then we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get into even more of a breakdown of how

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<v Speaker 1>this is an understood fact, not just a hypothetical.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's listen.

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<v Speaker 6>In a boy named Prince Tomino runs through a dark

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<v Speaker 6>wood pursued by a dragon. Just as it rears up

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<v Speaker 6>to devour him, three mysterious ladies appear and slay the

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<v Speaker 6>dragon with their fierce battle cry. So begins Wolfgang Amadeus

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<v Speaker 6>Mozart's Ditzaubaflirta, or The Magic Flute. This fantasy Zinschpiel, a

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<v Speaker 6>type of folk opera with music and dialogue, premiered in

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<v Speaker 6>seventeen ninety one in Vienna. Though it may seem like

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<v Speaker 6>a childish fairy tale, this intricate opera is full of

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<v Speaker 6>subversive symbolism, and it's now regarded as one of the

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<v Speaker 6>most influential operas in history. Tomino's run in with the

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<v Speaker 6>dragon is only the start of his journey. The three

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<v Speaker 6>women summon their leader, the Queen of the Night. She,

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<v Speaker 6>in turn, sends Tomino on a quest to rescue her

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<v Speaker 6>daughter Pamina from the evil sorcerer Zorostro, and to help

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<v Speaker 6>him on his journey, she gives him the titular magic flute.

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<v Speaker 6>Tomino eventually finds Pamina at Zorostro's temple, but behind enemy lines,

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<v Speaker 6>Tamino and Pamina learn that they're on the wrong side.

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<v Speaker 6>The Queen of Night actually wants to plunge the world

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<v Speaker 6>into darkness. Everything Tomino thought he knew was wrong, filling

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<v Speaker 6>him with.

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<v Speaker 1>Doubt and confusion.

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<v Speaker 6>So a new quest begins for Tomino and Pamina. They

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<v Speaker 6>must pass three trials of wisdom, and only then can

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<v Speaker 6>the day vanquish the Knight. Helped by the flute's magic power,

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<v Speaker 6>the two youths overcome these trials and the Queen's attempts

585
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<v Speaker 6>to sabotage them. They're finally initiated in to the Temple,

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<v Speaker 6>having restored balance to the kingdom. Many elements in this

587
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<v Speaker 6>peculiar fairy tale were inspired by Mozart's involvement in Freemasonry,

588
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<v Speaker 6>a network of fraternal organizations throughout Europe. Much of their history, symbolism,

589
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<v Speaker 6>and ritual came from the Middle Ages, but the Freemasons

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<v Speaker 6>of Mozart's time were also influenced by eighteenth century European

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<v Speaker 6>ideals rationalism, humanism, and skepticism towards traditional authorities like monarchy

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<v Speaker 6>and the church. The symbols of Freemasonry and these ideals

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<v Speaker 6>of the Enlightenment are found throughout the opera. If this

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<v Speaker 6>sounds like a conspiracy theory, that's because it sort of

595
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<v Speaker 6>was at the time, but it's now taken quite seriously

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<v Speaker 6>and has been the subject of considerable scholarly publication. For example,

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<v Speaker 6>some Mozart scholars believe the Queen of the Knight symbolizes

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<v Speaker 6>Maria Teresa, the Empress of the Holy Roman Empire, who

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<v Speaker 6>opposed freemasonry and band it in Austria. While there continues

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<v Speaker 6>to be debate as to the specific meaning, interpretation, and

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<v Speaker 6>location of these Masonic references, scholars agree that they're there

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<v Speaker 6>and are fully intentional. One of these symbols is the

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<v Speaker 6>number three, which represented balance and order to Freemasons. Now

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<v Speaker 6>the number three is, of course easy to find in

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<v Speaker 6>any work of storytelling, but it's particularly prominent in the

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<v Speaker 6>Magic Flute, Three Trials, three Ladies, three spirits, and three Doors.

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<v Speaker 6>Much of the music is written in E flat major,

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<v Speaker 6>which has three flats in its key signature, and historically

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<v Speaker 6>Masonic rituals began with three knocks. The opera references them

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<v Speaker 6>by opening with three majestic chords, complete with dramatic pauses.

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<v Speaker 6>Those chords, which reoccur throughout the opera serve another purpose.

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<v Speaker 6>They capture the dramatic arc of the opera. In literature.

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<v Speaker 6>The first chord, E flat major, is in its most

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<v Speaker 6>natural root position, simple and unadorned. It echoes the childlike

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<v Speaker 6>prince Tomino, who, in his naivete, accepts everything the Queen

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<v Speaker 6>and her ladies say without question. The second chord is

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<v Speaker 6>C minor, a sour sonority that mirrors Tomino's sadness and doubt.

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<v Speaker 6>In the middle of the opera, that's when his world

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<v Speaker 6>and notions of good and evil get turned on their heads.

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<v Speaker 6>And good and evil are just two of the opera's

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<v Speaker 6>extreme opposites. It features some of the highest and lowest

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<v Speaker 6>notes in opera day and night, simple hummable melodies, and complicated,

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<v Speaker 6>forward looking music. The opera's central theme concerns balancing these

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<v Speaker 6>extremes to achieve perfect harmony. To reflect this, the final

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<v Speaker 6>chord in the opening restores musical order. It returns to

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<v Speaker 6>the triumphant E flat major, the same chord at started with,

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<v Speaker 6>but inverted, meaning Mozart moved the bottom note to the top.

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<v Speaker 6>Although it retains its original harmony, the chord sounds higher,

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<v Speaker 6>pointing towards enlightenment. That's similar to Tomino, who, in passing

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<v Speaker 6>his trials, restores balance to the kingdom while growing stronger, wiser,

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<v Speaker 6>and more complete.

632
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<v Speaker 3>Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>That is That's That's another way I think of telling

634
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the story of the Full's journey if you really think

635
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:34.839
<v Speaker 1>about it, like the Full, you know, he's just this

636
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:39.119
<v Speaker 1>fucking idiot. He has one foot dangling over a cliff,

637
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:42.240
<v Speaker 1>he has his knapsack, He's just ready to start this journey, right,

638
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:45.559
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know what ahead of him, dude, right, just kind

639
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:48.839
<v Speaker 1>of like childlike, right, very excited, which it started out,

640
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.720
<v Speaker 1>and then he comes upon, you know, some struggles and

641
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:56.559
<v Speaker 1>dark times which could be represented by you know, if

642
00:33:56.559 --> 00:33:58.440
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the tarot and the Full's journey could

643
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:03.599
<v Speaker 1>be represented or represent the Tower card maybe, and then

644
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:07.559
<v Speaker 1>finally gets to the end enlightened with the World card.

645
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:10.480
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, I'm pretty interested to something here,

646
00:34:11.639 --> 00:34:14.079
<v Speaker 2>I really do. I think that there And like they said,

647
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:16.519
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of stories that have been told of

648
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:19.079
<v Speaker 2>this where it's this person that has to go through

649
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:22.800
<v Speaker 2>these trials, go through these tribulations, and they achieve success

650
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:25.159
<v Speaker 2>on the other side of them, right, And this is

651
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:28.599
<v Speaker 2>a tale as old as time, honestly as far as

652
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:32.119
<v Speaker 2>the magic flute is concerned. You can see now breaking

653
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:34.239
<v Speaker 2>it down in that way, that this was not only

654
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:37.800
<v Speaker 2>meant to be a multi level story being told. Even

655
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:41.679
<v Speaker 2>the musical composition, the words that we're saying and spoken,

656
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:45.480
<v Speaker 2>the story of the night queen versus the day King,

657
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:49.800
<v Speaker 2>the East versus the West, the lies of the initiation,

658
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:53.679
<v Speaker 2>all of this this was intentionally done to be a

659
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:57.039
<v Speaker 2>bit of a conspiracy in and of itself.

660
00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Dude, this is expert level composition like that is so

661
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:07.280
<v Speaker 1>so well thought out that it speaks a story on

662
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:08.199
<v Speaker 1>every level.

663
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Just the musical notes themselves tell a story. The

664
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:16.840
<v Speaker 2>story on stage tells a story. The imagery, if you're

665
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.119
<v Speaker 2>deaf and you can't even hear what's going on, and

666
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:22.039
<v Speaker 2>you can't even hear the dialogue, just the set in

667
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:24.719
<v Speaker 2>the scenes playing out a certain way tell a story.

668
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:29.639
<v Speaker 2>It's this is what I'm saying. Mozart was literally a genius. Now, granted,

669
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:32.880
<v Speaker 2>he was a bit of a a vagrant, a little

670
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:34.559
<v Speaker 2>bit of a He was into some some things, a

671
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:37.719
<v Speaker 2>little bit of some malarkey. Your boy liked to fuck you,

672
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:41.559
<v Speaker 2>boy like to party hard. You know, I'm not judging.

673
00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I got no room to judge, but also like, that's

674
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:45.760
<v Speaker 2>the thing. It's like, when you get to that level

675
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:48.400
<v Speaker 2>of being an absolute genius, there's certain parts of your

676
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:52.840
<v Speaker 2>mind that are just going off and doing their own shit.

677
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it's more so that like, and I've actually

678
00:35:56.440 --> 00:35:58.639
<v Speaker 1>been putting some thought into this too, because my life

679
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:01.199
<v Speaker 1>has been pretty damn hecked over the past couple of years,

680
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:03.559
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, I just started to think, like,

681
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:07.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even saying that I'm anywhere near the enlightened

682
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:10.679
<v Speaker 1>by any means, but I looking at it through that lens.

683
00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:14.159
<v Speaker 1>It's like maybe once you do become enlightened, or you know,

684
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:18.559
<v Speaker 1>deeply initiated into all of the mystical stories and the

685
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:21.599
<v Speaker 1>understandings of the universe and stuff like that, maybe once

686
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:24.679
<v Speaker 1>you do, it's like you just don't take this life

687
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:28.519
<v Speaker 1>as seriously anymore because you know that this is a

688
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:30.679
<v Speaker 1>lower level to the grander scheme.

689
00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:33.519
<v Speaker 3>I think it might be on something there. It's like

690
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:36.079
<v Speaker 3>a ignorance is bliss right.

691
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:40.280
<v Speaker 2>And you see these people that they're living a simple

692
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:43.679
<v Speaker 2>life and they got their little nine to five, take

693
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:45.719
<v Speaker 2>care of the kids, and they get home from work,

694
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:48.159
<v Speaker 2>they just have their little thing. Maybe they go on

695
00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:50.800
<v Speaker 2>like a vacation a year. They're not like out there

696
00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:53.039
<v Speaker 2>trying to learn new things. They're not out there trying

697
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:56.239
<v Speaker 2>to break the mold and start something new. They're just

698
00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:59.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of doing their little thing. And you notice they

699
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:01.800
<v Speaker 2>don't really have much controversy, They don't really have much

700
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:04.079
<v Speaker 2>struggle and strife in their life aside from like the

701
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:07.199
<v Speaker 2>normal stuff that everybody deals with. Then you have people

702
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:09.800
<v Speaker 2>that really do try to set out on their own

703
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:13.000
<v Speaker 2>to blaze their own path to make something for themselves,

704
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:17.039
<v Speaker 2>and they have to fight and claw every fucking step

705
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:19.360
<v Speaker 2>of the way to gain an inch for themselves.

706
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:20.719
<v Speaker 3>I think you might be.

707
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:22.880
<v Speaker 1>On to say, but I think most of those most people,

708
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:25.199
<v Speaker 1>not even most of those people, most people in reality

709
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:29.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know that you can. Most times you're the one

710
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:32.840
<v Speaker 1>that's in your own way, like it's life is just

711
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>going to be life. It's your perspective about how you

712
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:39.440
<v Speaker 1>interpret that life. And so there's things especially involved within

713
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:42.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, the mysteries and the initiatory kind of stuff

714
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:48.440
<v Speaker 1>that there. They understand transmutation, which is an incredible tool

715
00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:50.719
<v Speaker 1>if you can, you know, kind of harness that and

716
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:55.119
<v Speaker 1>the idea of transmutation is about like, all right, whenever

717
00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:59.599
<v Speaker 1>something bad happens to you, you have an opportunity to react,

718
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:03.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, animalistically and just you know, kind of get

719
00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:08.360
<v Speaker 1>very emotional and struggle with it, or or you can

720
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:11.159
<v Speaker 1>look at it as life's not happening to you, it's

721
00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:13.679
<v Speaker 1>happening for you, all right. Well, now if you change

722
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:16.599
<v Speaker 1>the perspective on that, well, that was a test that

723
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:19.559
<v Speaker 1>I was just you know, that's that was an opportunity

724
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:23.000
<v Speaker 1>for me to grow. And if I instantly reacted like

725
00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:27.119
<v Speaker 1>an animal would, then I'm not growing. I'm staying the same.

726
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:29.880
<v Speaker 1>And so that's kind of the idea is that if

727
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:33.239
<v Speaker 1>you don't allow things to bother you in some kind

728
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:37.960
<v Speaker 1>some kinds of way, and you have majority control over

729
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.559
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts and your emotions, then life gets a hell

730
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:42.719
<v Speaker 1>of a lot easier. Like you just got to get

731
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:46.280
<v Speaker 1>out of your own way. You are the bearer at

732
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:49.239
<v Speaker 1>the gate. That's like you in your mind, according just

733
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:50.360
<v Speaker 1>to your perspective here.

734
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I think you're on a sum here.

735
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:54.559
<v Speaker 2>And again, of course it depends on the course of

736
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:58.000
<v Speaker 2>you're choosing, right, it depends on There are certain people

737
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:00.360
<v Speaker 2>that are born to a certain class of way wealth

738
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:03.199
<v Speaker 2>that anything they really just want to do. They have

739
00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:05.119
<v Speaker 2>the means and they have the funds and it's not

740
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:06.079
<v Speaker 2>a struggle or anything.

741
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:06.960
<v Speaker 3>They just fucking do it.

742
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but the worst thing that's ever happened to you

743
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:11.559
<v Speaker 1>is the worst thing that's ever happened to you, regardless.

744
00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true.

745
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:15.559
<v Speaker 2>I remember seeing a picture of it was two dogs, right,

746
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:18.079
<v Speaker 2>and they were it looked like they both went through

747
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:20.719
<v Speaker 2>like eight inches of mud and it was like a

748
00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:25.440
<v Speaker 2>blonde lab versus the chihuahua. You could see where the

749
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:27.480
<v Speaker 2>level of mud was on both of them. They went

750
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:30.199
<v Speaker 2>through an equal puddle, and it was like, look, just

751
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:32.280
<v Speaker 2>because y'all went through the same struggle doesn't mean it

752
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:33.559
<v Speaker 2>affected you the same way.

753
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:38.360
<v Speaker 1>But even in that story, the chihuahua could potentially just

754
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:40.320
<v Speaker 1>look at it and like, I don't know, maybe he's

755
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:42.400
<v Speaker 1>like a like a little kid playing in the mud

756
00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:44.920
<v Speaker 1>and it's a fun time, and like this this is

757
00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:47.440
<v Speaker 1>a journey, and you know that's that whole thing. And

758
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:51.760
<v Speaker 1>the idea is the old quote is is that the

759
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:55.559
<v Speaker 1>the journey is the obstacle, right, and so like if

760
00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:58.280
<v Speaker 1>you can kind of transcend that and not wallow in

761
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:00.920
<v Speaker 1>self defeat and say pour me and pity me and

762
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:03.800
<v Speaker 1>all those things you're right to say. So, like nobody's

763
00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:06.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you that you're wrong to say you know,

764
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:08.440
<v Speaker 1>or wrong to feel bad for yourself. But it's the

765
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:11.639
<v Speaker 1>idea of being able to overcome those kinds of things

766
00:40:11.800 --> 00:40:13.760
<v Speaker 1>that turns it into the journey that it was meant

767
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:13.960
<v Speaker 1>to be.

768
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:15.360
<v Speaker 3>Now I'm with you.

769
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:17.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying that to your point about how the

770
00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:19.880
<v Speaker 2>worst thing that's ever happened to you is the worst.

771
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:21.239
<v Speaker 3>The worst thing that's ever happened to you.

772
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Whether it's to the world or to the outside looking in,

773
00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:25.920
<v Speaker 2>that might be like, brother, that was not that big

774
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:27.400
<v Speaker 2>of a deal, get over it, But to you it

775
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:29.679
<v Speaker 2>might have been the worst thing. Everybody's got their struggles,

776
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.400
<v Speaker 2>everybody's got their tribulations, their hurdles and all these things.

777
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:35.159
<v Speaker 2>You're right, it's about how you overcome them or do

778
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:36.719
<v Speaker 2>you let them overtake you.

779
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:41.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh dude, just imagine, like, you know, an ancient king.

780
00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Let's just say of like the year five hundred, right,

781
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:48.440
<v Speaker 1>and that ancient king probably you know, was sitting in

782
00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:51.800
<v Speaker 1>his palace. He had you know, servants and maids and

783
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:55.159
<v Speaker 1>butlers and cooks and all these different things, right, but

784
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:58.039
<v Speaker 1>he still had to sit in heat all day. He's

785
00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:01.559
<v Speaker 1>still never had a cold, you know what I'm saying.

786
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:03.559
<v Speaker 1>He still had to ride on a horse and buggy.

787
00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:06.360
<v Speaker 1>He would look at you and be like your complaining,

788
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.119
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So it's all really all

789
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:14.199
<v Speaker 1>about perspective. Even the most renowned, you know, illustrious, super

790
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:16.920
<v Speaker 1>wealthy kings of old would be jealous of what you have.

791
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:20.800
<v Speaker 2>I agree. I forget what movie I was watching. I

792
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:23.199
<v Speaker 2>think it was the Dracula series that came on Netflix.

793
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:25.079
<v Speaker 2>It was like a four part mini series. It was

794
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:29.239
<v Speaker 2>really dope, by the way, but basically Dracula in his coffin.

795
00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:31.599
<v Speaker 2>He wakes up and it's like this year I think

796
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:34.440
<v Speaker 2>it was like the year twenty seventeen or something, and

797
00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:38.440
<v Speaker 2>he's in this like shit apartment in England and the

798
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:40.639
<v Speaker 2>girl gets there and she's like, what are you doing here?

799
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:44.119
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, you know what, you must be so

800
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:46.199
<v Speaker 2>wealthy to have all these things.

801
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:47.880
<v Speaker 3>What kingdom do you resign? Fro him?

802
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:50.280
<v Speaker 2>She's like this place is a dump, and he's like,

803
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I have been alive for thousands of years and if

804
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:57.800
<v Speaker 2>I can get the smartest and wisest kings of all

805
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:00.920
<v Speaker 2>that time to sit in this room, they would never

806
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:01.920
<v Speaker 2>leave this room again.

807
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:03.039
<v Speaker 3>He was watching a TV.

808
00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:05.679
<v Speaker 2>He was watching a sunrise on the TV, and he

809
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:08.719
<v Speaker 2>could like it was. It was mind blowing air conditioning,

810
00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:12.679
<v Speaker 2>running water, a fucking freezer with ice in it. Bro

811
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:16.880
<v Speaker 2>what But yeah, to your point, it's perspective. Yeah, it

812
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:18.320
<v Speaker 2>all ties down to perspective.

813
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:22.840
<v Speaker 1>And that's what a lot of like the maybe it's freemasonic,

814
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:27.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever kind of accult like nature of a

815
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:30.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of things are just by being able to shift

816
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:33.400
<v Speaker 1>your perspective. That's most of it is about that.

817
00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:37.519
<v Speaker 2>Fair enough. Now, let's talk about perspective right quick. Let's

818
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:39.760
<v Speaker 2>talk about the perspective of the day and age of

819
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.

820
00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:41.639
<v Speaker 3>Right.

821
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:46.000
<v Speaker 2>He was living in Austria at this time, and the

822
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Impress of Austria was a woman by the name of

823
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:52.639
<v Speaker 2>Maria Teresa. We heard about that in the Ted video

824
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:56.159
<v Speaker 2>there saying that some scholars believe that the Night Queen

825
00:42:56.480 --> 00:43:00.119
<v Speaker 2>was supposed to be her. Now that's not a a

826
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:03.760
<v Speaker 2>certified guaranteed thing. However, it is a perspective that I

827
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:06.079
<v Speaker 2>tend to side on as far as it goes. Is

828
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:09.119
<v Speaker 2>that supposed to be Mother Teresa was no, no, no, no, no,

829
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:10.880
<v Speaker 2>mother Teresa was an Indian nun.

830
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay was Teresa mother Teresa? Was that her name or

831
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:16.239
<v Speaker 1>is that just like a title thing?

832
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:17.320
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

833
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:20.760
<v Speaker 2>No, No, that was her I believe that was her

834
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:23.679
<v Speaker 2>actual birth name. And she became a nun and became

835
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:27.760
<v Speaker 2>instead of just Teresa of uh well, it was the city.

836
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:34.639
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a capula, that's a Roman city. Uh cattl Calcutta.

837
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:34.599
<v Speaker 3>That's it.

838
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:38.039
<v Speaker 2>Instead just being like Teresa of Calcutta, she became mother

839
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Teresa of Calcutta.

840
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:42.679
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, but so, but Teresa is a very old name.

841
00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:44.159
<v Speaker 3>That's it's very very old.

842
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, her real name. Let me just share this.

843
00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:51.760
<v Speaker 2>This is crazy, all right, old let me uh, let

844
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:52.960
<v Speaker 2>me see what you're working with here.

845
00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:53.559
<v Speaker 1>Look at this.

846
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:55.360
<v Speaker 3>I pulled something pulled up on my screen.

847
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:59.639
<v Speaker 1>But her real name was on jez gon Cha Bolgillo.

848
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:04.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't speak Indian or Indi all empire. Yeah, yeah,

849
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:05.800
<v Speaker 3>all that.

850
00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:08.639
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. That's why I was wondering because most of

851
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:10.880
<v Speaker 1>those like kings and whatever they were, like, they just

852
00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:14.320
<v Speaker 1>take after names of venerated saints or whatever you know.

853
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, And for that point, I don't know if like

854
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:19.199
<v Speaker 2>the Empress Maria Theresa. I don't know if that was

855
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:22.519
<v Speaker 2>her birth name or not, but she broke up Freemason

856
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:26.440
<v Speaker 2>lodges by force in Austria in seventeen forty three. So

857
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:29.440
<v Speaker 2>by the time the Magic Flute was composed right in

858
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:33.840
<v Speaker 2>the year seventeen ninety one, she was already well known

859
00:44:33.880 --> 00:44:35.920
<v Speaker 2>to knock it down with Freemasons.

860
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:38.639
<v Speaker 3>Now, while she was hostile.

861
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:43.559
<v Speaker 2>Towards Freemasons due to her religious convictions, her husband, Francis

862
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:47.159
<v Speaker 2>the First was a zealous Freemason. The lodges in Vienna

863
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:50.199
<v Speaker 2>were largely tolerated due to her forty year reign because

864
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:55.559
<v Speaker 2>of his influence. The seventeen forty three incident is an

865
00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:58.639
<v Speaker 2>example of her specific actions against the organization despite her

866
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:01.159
<v Speaker 2>husband's protection. That was when she broke up the lodge

867
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:05.159
<v Speaker 2>one of them anyway. Now, a more long lasting band

868
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:08.239
<v Speaker 2>on Freemasonry and Austria came later in the year seventeen

869
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:13.079
<v Speaker 2>ninety five after her death when her son took over. Now,

870
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:16.360
<v Speaker 2>why was she so hostile towards Freemasons, And keep in

871
00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:20.800
<v Speaker 2>mind the Illuminati were also founded in seventeen seventy six

872
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:23.039
<v Speaker 2>in Bohemia in Austria.

873
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:26.840
<v Speaker 3>In this area of the world, Bavaria, So Bavaria.

874
00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, but that's also like right there, the Austria situation,

875
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:33.559
<v Speaker 2>all these things, like keep in mind Hitler was from

876
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Austria but took over Germany and then that's called Bavaria.

877
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:40.480
<v Speaker 2>It's these are like, it's kind of interchangeable. I know,

878
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:42.800
<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be some history nuts that are going to

879
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:45.920
<v Speaker 2>tell me that, no, Bavaria and Austria are completely separate

880
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:46.239
<v Speaker 2>from it.

881
00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:47.159
<v Speaker 3>Okay, fine, Look.

882
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:50.119
<v Speaker 1>It's like Rome is not the same Rome as it

883
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:51.039
<v Speaker 1>was in yesteryear.

884
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:55.639
<v Speaker 2>This is like saying Sicily and Naples, which are on

885
00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:59.000
<v Speaker 2>polar opposite ends of the country of Italy, are not

886
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:02.159
<v Speaker 2>equally itally. It's like, yes, there's a very very different

887
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:04.440
<v Speaker 2>culture in both of these places, but they're both in

888
00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:05.599
<v Speaker 2>that same neighborhood.

889
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:07.920
<v Speaker 1>You see what I'm saying, Yeah, under the same imaginary lines.

890
00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:09.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there you go.

891
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:12.639
<v Speaker 2>So, all that being said, the Illuminati was popping off

892
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:16.079
<v Speaker 2>seventeen seventy six. Masonry had been around for a very

893
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:20.000
<v Speaker 2>long time, so what was her issue with secret groups

894
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:20.519
<v Speaker 2>as a whole?

895
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:20.760
<v Speaker 3>Right?

896
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Maria Theresa was strongly against free Masonry for a combination

897
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:27.400
<v Speaker 2>of religious, political, and personal reasons, as a devout and

898
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:31.840
<v Speaker 2>pious Roman Catholic. She adhered her church's staunch opposition to

899
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:37.199
<v Speaker 2>the secretive and Enlightenment influenced organizations. Now, she was trained

900
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:40.199
<v Speaker 2>by Jesuit priests, right, they were her teachers growing up.

901
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:43.079
<v Speaker 2>So she had a fondness of the Jesuits. But she

902
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:46.519
<v Speaker 2>had a I don't want to say disdain, but she

903
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:51.360
<v Speaker 2>did not get down with Protestants. She instead of hating them,

904
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:54.639
<v Speaker 2>she tried to convert them. That was her big thing.

905
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Her big thing was religious unity for her nation. She

906
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:02.960
<v Speaker 2>was convinced that religious unity was necessary for a peaceful

907
00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:04.119
<v Speaker 2>and stable state.

908
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:05.400
<v Speaker 3>The Masons, on the.

909
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:08.599
<v Speaker 2>Other hand, promoted a form of religious tolerance, which she

910
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:13.599
<v Speaker 2>explicitly rejected and viewed as a danger to state order. Now,

911
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:17.880
<v Speaker 2>the Catholic Church viewed Free Masonry's principles of religious indifference,

912
00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:22.079
<v Speaker 2>indifference being like this idea that members from any religion

913
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:25.199
<v Speaker 2>could equally be pleasing to God. They saw this as

914
00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:27.480
<v Speaker 2>a form of heresy, right, And we've talked about that

915
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:30.199
<v Speaker 2>with Freemasonry. The G within their compass and square that

916
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:33.079
<v Speaker 2>just means grand Architect. It could mean God, it could

917
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:35.400
<v Speaker 2>mean whatever, But that's what is originally supposed to be

918
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:41.119
<v Speaker 2>whether you are a Buddhist, a Muslim, Vedic, whatever. If

919
00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:44.679
<v Speaker 2>you believe in some higher power, some entity that created

920
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:48.320
<v Speaker 2>all this, then you're welcome with Freemasonry, and that was

921
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:51.440
<v Speaker 2>seen by the Catholics as a form of heresy. Maria

922
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Theresa and her advisors shared this view, seeing Masons as

923
00:47:55.320 --> 00:48:00.199
<v Speaker 2>undermining the primacy of the Catholic faith. Plus the whole

924
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:03.559
<v Speaker 2>thing with secrecy, secrecy surrounding the Masonic rituals and the

925
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:07.079
<v Speaker 2>oaths for that memberships. Excuse me, the oaths that members

926
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:09.679
<v Speaker 2>swore to one another were viewed with deep suspicion by

927
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:12.280
<v Speaker 2>the Church and the state. They were seen as potentially

928
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:16.920
<v Speaker 2>replacing or overwriting a subject's loyalty to their monarch and

929
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:20.840
<v Speaker 2>their God. So clearly we cannot have this now. On

930
00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:24.400
<v Speaker 2>the political side of things, the Enlightenment ideals that were

931
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:27.079
<v Speaker 2>going on here, the secretive nature of the lodges and

932
00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:30.440
<v Speaker 2>the intellectual discussions that took place within them were tied

933
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:33.480
<v Speaker 2>to the ideas of Enlightenment. We've talked about that many times.

934
00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:38.880
<v Speaker 2>These new ideas challenged traditional, divinely ordained monarchical rule, and

935
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Maria Theoriesley was deeply traditional in her understanding of her office.

936
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:45.559
<v Speaker 2>She was one of these people that truly believed that

937
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:48.320
<v Speaker 2>if you were born into royalty to lead a nation,

938
00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:51.760
<v Speaker 2>you wire ordained by God to do so. Right, You're

939
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:54.679
<v Speaker 2>not speaking on behalf of God, but God wanted you

940
00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:57.840
<v Speaker 2>in that position. Otherwise you wouldn't have been born into

941
00:48:57.920 --> 00:48:59.760
<v Speaker 2>this family in the timeframe that you were.

942
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:01.559
<v Speaker 3>So this is just the way it must be.

943
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, the Enlightenment revivalist thing that was going on at

944
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:09.760
<v Speaker 2>this time was kind of throwing a wrench in those gears,

945
00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:12.599
<v Speaker 2>and they were getting a lot of the well and

946
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:20.119
<v Speaker 2>well well influenced the well to do the well educated people,

947
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:26.000
<v Speaker 2>specifically men together to discuss opposing ideas, and that's dangerous.

948
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Of course, there was also a Prussian rivalry here. Maria

949
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:33.159
<v Speaker 2>Teresa's chief rival was Frederick the Great of Prussia, a

950
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:37.239
<v Speaker 2>prominent and vocal Freemason. Her opposition was fueled by suspicion

951
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:40.840
<v Speaker 2>that her Prussian enemy could use Austrian Masonic lodges as

952
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:44.599
<v Speaker 2>a tool for political influence or espionage. Keep in mind,

953
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:48.920
<v Speaker 2>her husband was a Freemason and a really tight homie

954
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:51.559
<v Speaker 2>of Mozart, I might add, so while she's over here

955
00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:54.880
<v Speaker 2>trying to rule the Holy Roman Empire. Her husband's over

956
00:49:54.920 --> 00:49:58.039
<v Speaker 2>here playing Masonic lodge with this Mozart guy, and how

957
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:00.920
<v Speaker 2>do I know he's not also with the Prussian king.

958
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:05.400
<v Speaker 2>It's you see, she already had some conspiratorial thinking going on.

959
00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:09.199
<v Speaker 1>Here, So it makes sense then that Mozart would view

960
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:13.360
<v Speaker 1>her as that evil witch or whatever that came and

961
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:17.400
<v Speaker 1>tried to give him the flute and basically just to

962
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:21.719
<v Speaker 1>become his undoing of sorts, right, you see it?

963
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:22.440
<v Speaker 3>Right now.

964
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying one hundred percent that the Queen of

965
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:29.199
<v Speaker 2>the Knight was supposed to be Queen or Impress Maria Theresa.

966
00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:33.280
<v Speaker 3>I can't say that one hundred percent. But the argument that.

967
00:50:33.360 --> 00:50:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Stands that suggests that that is true, I personally find

968
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:39.239
<v Speaker 2>myself aligning with that.

969
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:43.559
<v Speaker 1>It checks out, Yeah, it does check out. It's interesting

970
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:45.840
<v Speaker 1>that he would call her a witch too. But I mean,

971
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess if you're you know, an opposing religion or

972
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:54.760
<v Speaker 1>an opposing spiritual thought or whatever kind of lodge that

973
00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:57.920
<v Speaker 1>you're attached to within you know, secret society, and you

974
00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:02.800
<v Speaker 1>have essentially a gatekeeper, you know that is saying that

975
00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:05.800
<v Speaker 1>you're wrong, and you know, saying nothing but bad things

976
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:08.519
<v Speaker 1>essentially about Freemasons, or just trying to convert them. You

977
00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:11.079
<v Speaker 1>would probably look at her through the lens of being

978
00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:12.760
<v Speaker 1>an evil witch, you.

979
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Would, indeed, especially if they're struggle and strife between the

980
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Holy Roman Emperor Francis the First and the Holy Roman

981
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Empress of Maria Theresa, which there absolutely was. So Francis

982
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:27.760
<v Speaker 2>was a Freemason who joined a lodge in the Hague.

983
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:31.039
<v Speaker 2>Right because of his influence, Masonic lodges in Vienna were

984
00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:35.559
<v Speaker 2>largely tolerated during Maria Teresa's forty year reign. Francis the

985
00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:38.760
<v Speaker 2>first intervened to secure the release of the members that

986
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:41.960
<v Speaker 2>she ordered arrested when she broke up a lodge in

987
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:46.599
<v Speaker 2>seventeen forty three, and her disapproval of Masonic groups were

988
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:49.840
<v Speaker 2>often checked by her husband's protection of them, which allowed

989
00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:52.559
<v Speaker 2>Freemasonry to persist in Vienna for a time. So you

990
00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:54.280
<v Speaker 2>see that there was already a little bit of some

991
00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:56.599
<v Speaker 2>struggling strife between the powers that be.

992
00:51:56.800 --> 00:52:01.039
<v Speaker 1>Right, So I wonder what the symbol like significance of

993
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:05.679
<v Speaker 1>the flute role plays her giving him the flute, Like,

994
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:07.239
<v Speaker 1>I wonder what that means.

995
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:09.679
<v Speaker 2>So I got a video here in a bit that

996
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:12.000
<v Speaker 2>is going to go a little more in depth with it,

997
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:14.960
<v Speaker 2>and we don't get the entire story of the flute

998
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:17.239
<v Speaker 2>from the two little quick videos that I showed earlier.

999
00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:24.360
<v Speaker 2>The flute itself, I should mention it is made so

1000
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:28.119
<v Speaker 2>all right, the Freemasons and most esoteric groups, right, it's

1001
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:30.800
<v Speaker 2>all about the perfect harmony in the combining of the

1002
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:34.519
<v Speaker 2>four elements, right. Yeah, Now they'll have the five element,

1003
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:37.119
<v Speaker 2>with the fifth being ether or spirit or whatever the case.

1004
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:39.760
<v Speaker 2>But as far as the Freemasons are concerned, they're more

1005
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:41.840
<v Speaker 2>worried about the physical world we live in. So a

1006
00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:49.199
<v Speaker 2>lot of their principles and practices have to do with earth, fire, water, air, wind, yeah, air, right, right, which,

1007
00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:51.119
<v Speaker 2>depending on how you look at it, is that the

1008
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:53.360
<v Speaker 2>spirit or is that the breath or is that just

1009
00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:54.559
<v Speaker 2>the actual wind blowing.

1010
00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:55.599
<v Speaker 3>That conversation we can have.

1011
00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:58.639
<v Speaker 2>But my point is it's the harmonious balance of these four, right,

1012
00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:00.800
<v Speaker 2>the mastery of the four, if you will.

1013
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:04.400
<v Speaker 3>The flute was made with fire.

1014
00:53:05.119 --> 00:53:09.119
<v Speaker 2>It was also made during a rainstorm with lightning, which

1015
00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:12.280
<v Speaker 2>is also seen as fire. It was made from wood,

1016
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:15.559
<v Speaker 2>which would encompass the earth, and then to give it

1017
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:18.559
<v Speaker 2>life you do have to blow into it, which would

1018
00:53:18.599 --> 00:53:19.000
<v Speaker 2>be the air.

1019
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:21.679
<v Speaker 1>This is so funny that you're bringing this up.

1020
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Bro.

1021
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Literally, my next episode that I'm shooting on Meta Mysteries

1022
00:53:25.079 --> 00:53:29.639
<v Speaker 1>is going to be getting into each the depth of

1023
00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:32.960
<v Speaker 1>each of the four well the fifth, the five main elements.

1024
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Some people you know like to include the ether. I'm

1025
00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:37.440
<v Speaker 1>not saying anybody's wrong or right. It's just a way,

1026
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:41.559
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it's interesting. Like if you look into the

1027
00:53:41.639 --> 00:53:45.519
<v Speaker 1>symbolism of fire, so the and I'm just gonna read

1028
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:48.239
<v Speaker 1>this one little part real quick. So the flame isn't

1029
00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:50.760
<v Speaker 1>a thing. So whenever you see a flame, it's not

1030
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:53.440
<v Speaker 1>an actual thing. It's just a process. So when you

1031
00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:56.280
<v Speaker 1>light a match, it seems like a flame appears out

1032
00:53:56.320 --> 00:53:59.599
<v Speaker 1>of nowhere, but what's really happening is a chemical reaction

1033
00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:04.880
<v Speaker 1>the fuel. The fuel like wood or wax, combines with oxygen,

1034
00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:09.519
<v Speaker 1>releasing stored chemical energy as heat and light. The flame

1035
00:54:09.559 --> 00:54:12.039
<v Speaker 1>is not a substance that comes into being. It's the

1036
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:16.639
<v Speaker 1>visible process of energy transfer, and once the fuel is gone,

1037
00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:19.639
<v Speaker 1>the process ends. So it looks like the flame has

1038
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:23.199
<v Speaker 1>been destroyed, but the energy has simply changed form. So

1039
00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:26.599
<v Speaker 1>that's why the fire is always like a magical thing.

1040
00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:29.480
<v Speaker 1>That is, it's always brought up and that's just one

1041
00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:30.559
<v Speaker 1>of the ways of looking at it.

1042
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:33.320
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's just having this conversation with my sun

1043
00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:33.840
<v Speaker 3>the other day.

1044
00:54:33.880 --> 00:54:37.719
<v Speaker 2>We were talking about the elements, right of just solid

1045
00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:40.559
<v Speaker 2>liquid gas, and then the fourth one, which is like plasma,

1046
00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:43.119
<v Speaker 2>which is I guess it could be also kind of

1047
00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:46.440
<v Speaker 2>put into the realm of like a gel ish, but

1048
00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:49.400
<v Speaker 2>it's not a physical gel it's like some other thing

1049
00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:52.400
<v Speaker 2>that there's still they're still currently having trouble like really

1050
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:55.039
<v Speaker 2>putting limits on what it is and is not right.

1051
00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:57.639
<v Speaker 2>And that's fine, it's kind of a relatively new discovery.

1052
00:54:58.119 --> 00:55:00.239
<v Speaker 2>But he was like, so you could like pick up

1053
00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:04.280
<v Speaker 2>a handful of plasma. I'm like, theoretically, depending on the type. Yes,

1054
00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:06.960
<v Speaker 2>But it's like I showed him what a plasma vortex

1055
00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:09.239
<v Speaker 2>looks like on YouTube and it's like an electro magnet,

1056
00:55:09.239 --> 00:55:11.199
<v Speaker 2>and they like, can show you a plasma vortext and

1057
00:55:11.199 --> 00:55:13.519
<v Speaker 2>he's like, you can't pick that up, And I'm like, well,

1058
00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:16.840
<v Speaker 2>this example of it, no, But in this example it

1059
00:55:16.920 --> 00:55:19.239
<v Speaker 2>was a reaction to the environment that they had put

1060
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:20.880
<v Speaker 2>it in. It's kind of like saying, you can't pick

1061
00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:23.800
<v Speaker 2>up a handful of fire, right, you can pick up

1062
00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:28.480
<v Speaker 2>something that is burning, but fire itself is not a element, right,

1063
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:32.159
<v Speaker 2>It's like electricity. You can't pick up a handful of electricity.

1064
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:33.719
<v Speaker 3>It's a force.

1065
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:37.400
<v Speaker 2>It is a transfer of energy, right, And that's essentially

1066
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:39.559
<v Speaker 2>what it is. We can harness it, we can control it,

1067
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:43.280
<v Speaker 2>we can utilize it, but we can't physically handle it

1068
00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:44.000
<v Speaker 2>in that way.

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00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:45.800
<v Speaker 3>So, yes, to your point.

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00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:48.480
<v Speaker 2>It's very very interesting how all these things tie in,

1071
00:55:48.519 --> 00:55:51.679
<v Speaker 2>and all these for the backstory of it went into

1072
00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:55.320
<v Speaker 2>the making of the magic flute itself, and then when

1073
00:55:55.360 --> 00:55:58.280
<v Speaker 2>he went through the trials of fire and water, he

1074
00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:02.000
<v Speaker 2>had to use this flute with his air, which was

1075
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:06.280
<v Speaker 2>made of wood, to harmoniously balance and get through each

1076
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:08.039
<v Speaker 2>of the three initiation steps.

1077
00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:12.000
<v Speaker 1>So a literal magic relic. Then at that point there

1078
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:15.440
<v Speaker 1>you go a lot like the wand or something like that.

1079
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:18.960
<v Speaker 2>You could definitely make the inference that that was what

1080
00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:20.239
<v Speaker 2>it was supposed to be, right.

1081
00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:21.760
<v Speaker 3>A form of one.

1082
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I'm not saying it was his magic wand, but

1083
00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:25.840
<v Speaker 2>at least for the principle of him getting through the

1084
00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:29.679
<v Speaker 2>initiation which he could not speak through. Yeah, the flute

1085
00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:34.119
<v Speaker 2>was his voice, if you will, which it's.

1086
00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:35.159
<v Speaker 3>Very interesting to look through.

1087
00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:39.360
<v Speaker 2>All right, Now back to it, let's talk about Mozart

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00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:42.599
<v Speaker 2>and free masonry. So if you want to jump in

1089
00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:44.719
<v Speaker 2>here to Mozart's lodges.

1090
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:49.039
<v Speaker 1>Mozart was admitted as an apprentice to the let me

1091
00:56:49.079 --> 00:56:50.599
<v Speaker 1>take you some off.

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00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:52.320
<v Speaker 2>I will say, for the last seven years of his

1093
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:54.280
<v Speaker 2>life he was a Mason, so it wasn't like he

1094
00:56:54.440 --> 00:56:57.360
<v Speaker 2>was born into it, but in his mid twenties he

1095
00:56:57.400 --> 00:56:59.920
<v Speaker 2>absolutely was raised as a brother of.

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00:56:59.880 --> 00:57:03.639
<v Speaker 3>The Masonic lodge. Also, his father was a Freemason. Should

1097
00:57:03.639 --> 00:57:04.199
<v Speaker 3>throw that out.

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00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:07.760
<v Speaker 1>So Mozart was admitted as an apprentice to the Viennese

1099
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Masonic lodge called zerr Waltzell to get kick hike kite, sure,

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00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:19.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't know which means beneficence on December fourteenth, seventeen

1101
00:57:19.639 --> 00:57:23.039
<v Speaker 1>eighty four. He was promoted to fellow on January seventh,

1102
00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:26.480
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty or seventeen eighty five, and became a master

1103
00:57:26.639 --> 00:57:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Mason shortly thereafter. It says in quotes Mozart also attended

1104
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the meetings of another lodge called True Concord in another

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00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:37.239
<v Speaker 1>language and a record.

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00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:38.519
<v Speaker 3>Quick, just gonna throw this out.

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00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:42.760
<v Speaker 2>He went from initiate to master, which is the level three,

1108
00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:48.000
<v Speaker 2>in the matter of about two months, month and a half.

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00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Well I mean it if you can, you know, understand

1110
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:56.559
<v Speaker 1>the information faster than everybody else because you're kind of

1111
00:57:56.599 --> 00:58:00.000
<v Speaker 1>already putting it within your music, maybe the initiatory process

1112
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:01.960
<v Speaker 1>isn't extremely long and treacherous.

1113
00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:04.679
<v Speaker 2>There's I know, we have some freemasons that listen to

1114
00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:07.119
<v Speaker 2>this show and they kind of scoff whenever we get

1115
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:09.679
<v Speaker 2>on this topic. But even they will tell you it

1116
00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:12.880
<v Speaker 2>really depends lodge to lodge. I personally know dudes that

1117
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:16.239
<v Speaker 2>it took them a year to go from initiate to

1118
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:19.039
<v Speaker 2>master Mason, which is not the thirty third degree, just

1119
00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:20.320
<v Speaker 2>the initial first three.

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00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:21.840
<v Speaker 3>That's all we're talking about here.

1121
00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:25.000
<v Speaker 2>And then they'll also see guys that will go from

1122
00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:28.320
<v Speaker 2>a level twelve to a level twenty five in the

1123
00:58:28.360 --> 00:58:32.000
<v Speaker 2>matter of a weekend because they pay their money, they

1124
00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:34.280
<v Speaker 2>go through the coursework. And I mean there's certain lodges

1125
00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:36.159
<v Speaker 2>that aren't doing things in the correct way. There are

1126
00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:38.719
<v Speaker 2>certain lodges that are very strict about the time stamps,

1127
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:41.440
<v Speaker 2>and like it's it varies lodge to lodge, but especially

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00:58:41.519 --> 00:58:43.880
<v Speaker 2>in this day and age and when you're somebody as

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00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:48.599
<v Speaker 2>prominent and well off and well connected as Wolfgang Ameda,

1130
00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:52.159
<v Speaker 2>as fucking Mozart bro it would make sense that they're

1131
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:54.480
<v Speaker 2>going to try to get him to be in the

1132
00:58:54.599 --> 00:58:56.320
<v Speaker 2>click as soon as possible.

1133
00:58:56.480 --> 00:58:57.320
<v Speaker 3>So I'm still on that out.

1134
00:58:57.480 --> 00:59:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, a more like real world exit would be.

1135
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:04.559
<v Speaker 1>So the Steelers drafted a quarterback this past April. Right,

1136
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:07.039
<v Speaker 1>he came from Ohio State. His name is Will Howard

1137
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:11.079
<v Speaker 1>want a championship. Was really good all throughout last season, right,

1138
00:59:11.480 --> 00:59:14.800
<v Speaker 1>But but then we decided to sign Aaron Rodgers. Aaron

1139
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Rodgers been in the league twenty something years, you know

1140
00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:20.360
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. And so you're going to make your

1141
00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:23.880
<v Speaker 1>rookie go through the initiatory process, you know, learning about

1142
00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:27.280
<v Speaker 1>the playbook and training camp and watching film and you know,

1143
00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:29.760
<v Speaker 1>let's see what kind of leadership you have amongst the

1144
00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:32.360
<v Speaker 1>rest of the team and all that stuff. That stuff

1145
00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:35.639
<v Speaker 1>is already in Aaron Rodgers. So he's going to start,

1146
00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:37.760
<v Speaker 1>and it's not even a question, right, And he did

1147
00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:40.280
<v Speaker 1>really well. So I think that maybe it's somewhere along

1148
00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:45.039
<v Speaker 1>those lines, like he was already well versed, but also

1149
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:48.320
<v Speaker 1>like already well known, and so you kind of want

1150
00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:51.239
<v Speaker 1>to promote the guys that are already well known from within.

1151
00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it shines a little bit of extra light on

1152
00:59:53.440 --> 00:59:56.159
<v Speaker 1>your lodge in that say, because then now you can say,

1153
00:59:56.239 --> 00:59:58.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, Mozart goes to our fucking lodge, so we're

1154
00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:00.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna bring him all the way up to the We're

1155
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:01.480
<v Speaker 1>not gonna treat him like a little bitch.

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01:00:02.079 --> 01:00:02.559
<v Speaker 3>Think of it.

1157
01:00:02.639 --> 01:00:06.599
<v Speaker 2>Also, in the realm of Lebron James and his kid, right,

1158
01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:10.519
<v Speaker 2>he is like seen as some sort of NBA royalty.

1159
01:00:10.639 --> 01:00:13.519
<v Speaker 2>I think that's silly, but whatever, his son, who does

1160
01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:16.480
<v Speaker 2>not have the same skill set as his father, instantly

1161
01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:19.119
<v Speaker 2>gets signed on to a big fat contract with the NBA,

1162
01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:20.039
<v Speaker 2>like fresh out.

1163
01:00:20.199 --> 01:00:20.840
<v Speaker 3>He didn't have to.

1164
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Go through any of the any of the making his

1165
01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:24.360
<v Speaker 2>way for himself or anything like that. It was a

1166
01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:27.039
<v Speaker 2>little bit of nepotism, right, you could see it. But

1167
01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:29.840
<v Speaker 2>also it was for the status of having both of

1168
01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:32.840
<v Speaker 2>the james Is on the team, right you could see.

1169
01:00:33.320 --> 01:00:34.239
<v Speaker 3>This is what I'm saying.

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01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you get people that demenitating on their situation get

1171
01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:39.639
<v Speaker 2>on the fast track, and some people that have to

1172
01:00:39.679 --> 01:00:42.039
<v Speaker 2>struggle and claw their way. But either way it goes

1173
01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:45.480
<v Speaker 2>just want to make a mention, Yeah, within under two months,

1174
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Mozart went from an initiate to a master mason.

1175
01:00:48.559 --> 01:00:49.800
<v Speaker 3>So throwing it out.

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01:00:49.639 --> 01:00:54.199
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, According to Otto Eric Deutsch. This lodge was the

1177
01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:59.000
<v Speaker 1>largest and most aristocratic in Vienna, and Mozart, as the

1178
01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:03.000
<v Speaker 1>best of the music brothers, was welcome in all the lodges.

1179
01:01:03.679 --> 01:01:08.159
<v Speaker 1>It was headed by the naturalist Ignaz von Born, Mozart's

1180
01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:14.800
<v Speaker 1>own lodge God what was that again? Beneficence was consolidated

1181
01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:17.440
<v Speaker 1>with two others in December of seventeen eighty five under

1182
01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:22.679
<v Speaker 1>the emperor reform of masonry called something which means Masonic

1183
01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:28.239
<v Speaker 1>degree on December eleventh, seventeen eighty five. And thus, and

1184
01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:32.920
<v Speaker 1>thus Mozart came to belong to the lodge called Beneficent

1185
01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:35.920
<v Speaker 1>New Crowned Hope. Oh, the new Crowned Hope. Oh yeah,

1186
01:01:35.960 --> 01:01:37.679
<v Speaker 1>because they all consolidated.

1187
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:41.639
<v Speaker 2>So this Masonic decree that took place was because of

1188
01:01:41.679 --> 01:01:44.079
<v Speaker 2>the Empress who was trying to break up these lodges.

1189
01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:45.599
<v Speaker 3>So she didn't want.

1190
01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:47.679
<v Speaker 2>Them spreading out with all these little outposts all over

1191
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:49.320
<v Speaker 2>the place, so she wanted some of them broke up.

1192
01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:52.840
<v Speaker 2>So instead of having three lodges, you now had one

1193
01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:56.760
<v Speaker 2>massive lodge that basically spoke on behalf of the entirety

1194
01:01:56.800 --> 01:01:58.440
<v Speaker 2>of the aristocratic class of Vienna.

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01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Checks out. Yeah, So it says based on surviving Masonic documents.

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01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Mozart was well regarded by his fellow Masons. Many of

1197
01:02:05.800 --> 01:02:08.760
<v Speaker 1>his friends were Masons, and during his visit to Vienna

1198
01:02:08.760 --> 01:02:12.840
<v Speaker 1>in seventeen eighty five, Mozart's father, Leopold, also became a Mason.

1199
01:02:13.039 --> 01:02:13.559
<v Speaker 1>How about that?

1200
01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:16.159
<v Speaker 2>So Mozart became one first and then brought his father

1201
01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:17.280
<v Speaker 2>along into it.

1202
01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:19.440
<v Speaker 3>Now, let's talk a little bit.

1203
01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Let's get into the thick of it here, the Masonic

1204
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:26.239
<v Speaker 2>ideology and Masonic music. Now we do have a couple

1205
01:02:26.239 --> 01:02:28.079
<v Speaker 2>of articles that are going to go even further in

1206
01:02:28.199 --> 01:02:30.360
<v Speaker 2>depth on this, but I thought this did a good

1207
01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:32.559
<v Speaker 2>job of kind of a glossing over for sure.

1208
01:02:32.920 --> 01:02:37.239
<v Speaker 1>Mozart's position within the Masonic movement, according to Maynard Solomon Lay,

1209
01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:43.280
<v Speaker 1>lay with the rationalist Enlightenment inspired membership as opposed to

1210
01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:47.199
<v Speaker 1>those members oriented toward mysticism and the occult. This rationalist

1211
01:02:47.280 --> 01:02:51.320
<v Speaker 1>faction is identified by Catherine Thompson as the Illuminati, a

1212
01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Masonically inspired group which was founded by Bavarian professor of

1213
01:02:56.119 --> 01:02:59.960
<v Speaker 1>canon law Adam Weissopt, who was also a friend of Mozart.

1214
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, I didn't know that, all right.

1215
01:03:02.920 --> 01:03:07.320
<v Speaker 2>There is in fact connection between the Freemasons and the Illuminati,

1216
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:11.119
<v Speaker 2>and they definitely combined forces later on, but in their inception,

1217
01:03:11.679 --> 01:03:15.159
<v Speaker 2>believe it or not, Mozart was a really really strange

1218
01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:17.719
<v Speaker 2>lynch pin between the two and these see, these two

1219
01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:21.000
<v Speaker 2>groups were seen as opposing forces in this area at

1220
01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:24.000
<v Speaker 2>this time. Hell the Illuminati was started because your boy

1221
01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Adam Weishaupt wasn't allowed to be a free Mason, so

1222
01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:29.599
<v Speaker 2>he said, fuck you, I'm gonna start my own group. Meanwhile,

1223
01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:33.719
<v Speaker 2>Mozart kind of attended both meetings. Now was he a

1224
01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:36.639
<v Speaker 2>member of the Illuminati. There are some that say absolutely,

1225
01:03:36.679 --> 01:03:39.039
<v Speaker 2>there are some that say no way. But he was

1226
01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:41.920
<v Speaker 2>homies with the head guy. I mean, I'm just saying

1227
01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:43.920
<v Speaker 2>there is obvious connections within.

1228
01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:46.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there were some notes passed, you know, Oh

1229
01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:47.000
<v Speaker 1>for sure.

1230
01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:49.400
<v Speaker 3>I person of the belief that Mozart attended.

1231
01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:55.079
<v Speaker 1>Both the Illuminati and Rationalist Masons espoused the Enlightenment inspired

1232
01:03:55.280 --> 01:03:59.039
<v Speaker 1>humanist views proposed by the French philosophers Jean Jacques Rousseau

1233
01:03:59.280 --> 01:04:00.679
<v Speaker 1>and did A.

1234
01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:00.920
<v Speaker 6>Row.

1235
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:05.199
<v Speaker 1>For example, they contended that social rank was not coincident

1236
01:04:05.239 --> 01:04:08.000
<v Speaker 1>with nobility of the spirit, but that people of lowly

1237
01:04:08.039 --> 01:04:11.360
<v Speaker 1>class could be noble in spirit, just as nobly born

1238
01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:14.760
<v Speaker 1>could be mean spirited. The view or this view appears

1239
01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:18.199
<v Speaker 1>in Mozart's operas, for example, The Marriage of Figaro, an

1240
01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:21.960
<v Speaker 1>opera based on a based on a play by Pierre

1241
01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:28.559
<v Speaker 1>Baumart Ka Beaumarchie Beaumarche another freemason. The low born Figuo

1242
01:04:28.760 --> 01:04:34.280
<v Speaker 1>is the hero and the count Alma Alma Viva is

1243
01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:34.679
<v Speaker 1>the bore.

1244
01:04:36.239 --> 01:04:39.480
<v Speaker 2>That's also very crazy for this timeframe to say that

1245
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:43.920
<v Speaker 2>people of lowly birth could be noble and could show

1246
01:04:43.960 --> 01:04:47.440
<v Speaker 2>noble characteristics, and people of the nobility class could be

1247
01:04:47.639 --> 01:04:51.440
<v Speaker 2>just assholes. That was crazy because if you were born again,

1248
01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:53.559
<v Speaker 2>the tradition would say that if you were born to

1249
01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:57.039
<v Speaker 2>a noble class a family, you must have a little

1250
01:04:57.079 --> 01:04:59.920
<v Speaker 2>something extra in your DNA, otherwise you wouldn't be noble.

1251
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:01.360
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't.

1252
01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:04.480
<v Speaker 1>You might also be able to suggest that like this

1253
01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:08.480
<v Speaker 1>was at least proposed one day a year during Saturnalia.

1254
01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:12.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, that was an ancient room Saturnalia, didn't That didn't

1255
01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:15.360
<v Speaker 2>like make it through the four hundred's ad bro.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm saying, you know, maybe maybe the some people

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<v Speaker 1>had a similar idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I see what you're saying. See what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>But towards this time, dude, the Middle Ages. It was

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<v Speaker 3>very rare.

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<v Speaker 2>We see these movies right where you get this, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>this lowly born peasant who did crazy shit on the

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01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:35.599
<v Speaker 2>battlefield and becomes knighted, right, and then like through time

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01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:38.760
<v Speaker 2>his family can rise through the ranks and become dukes

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<v Speaker 2>and lords and all of these things.

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<v Speaker 3>That was rare.

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<v Speaker 2>That that was the exception. That was not something that

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<v Speaker 2>happened like every battle. There wasn't some dude that got

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01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:49.599
<v Speaker 2>knighted as a result of it. Like, they didn't just

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<v Speaker 2>like make up new nobility families just to make them up.

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<v Speaker 3>So for them to say that, like somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Of low birth could be a noble in his own

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01:05:59.159 --> 01:06:02.880
<v Speaker 2>right was preposterous in the traditional sense of the word.

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<v Speaker 2>But Mozart and other humanists of the what was considered

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01:06:07.519 --> 01:06:11.760
<v Speaker 2>at that time New Age Enlightenment, super super got down

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01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:14.519
<v Speaker 2>on that vibe and they proposed this, and they showed it.

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<v Speaker 2>And like he said, even in his plays, even in

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01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:18.920
<v Speaker 2>his operation of figro So.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, they didn't believe in the goyam Royce

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<v Speaker 1>with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, they didn't believe in the uh. They didn't believe

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<v Speaker 2>in the tradition. Although it's funny that you mentioned that

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<v Speaker 2>Maria Theresa. Uh, yeah, I think I said that one, right, Maria, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Mary true.

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<v Speaker 3>She had an issue with.

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01:06:37.079 --> 01:06:41.079
<v Speaker 2>The Jews hardcore, she had an issue with all secret societies.

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01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:44.079
<v Speaker 2>She had issue with the Protestants, but she didn't hate

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01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:46.719
<v Speaker 2>them out right, She just wanted to convert them to Catholicism.

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01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:51.400
<v Speaker 3>But she had a fucking issue with Judaism for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, to each their own. So the Freemasons

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01:06:56.719 --> 01:07:00.599
<v Speaker 1>used music in their ceremonies uh and adopted Russo humanist

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01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:03.719
<v Speaker 1>views on the meaning of music. The purpose of music

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01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:06.320
<v Speaker 1>and the Masonic ceremonies is to spread good thoughts and

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01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:09.800
<v Speaker 1>unity among the members in quotes, so that they may be,

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01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:13.440
<v Speaker 1>in quotes united in the idea of innocence and joy,

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01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:18.719
<v Speaker 1>wrote Ludwig Friedrich Lenz in a contemporary edition of Masonic Songs.

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<v Speaker 1>Music should in and culcate and it's okay. It should

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<v Speaker 1>bring about feelings of humanity, wisdom and patience, virtue and honesty,

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01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:35.079
<v Speaker 1>loyalty to friends, and finally, an understanding of freedom. These

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<v Speaker 1>views suggest a musical style quite unlike the style of

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01:07:39.320 --> 01:07:43.159
<v Speaker 1>the Gallant which was dominant at the time. Gallant style

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01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:49.599
<v Speaker 1>music was typically melodic with harmonic accompaniment accompaniment rather than polyphonic,

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01:07:49.880 --> 01:07:54.559
<v Speaker 1>and the melodic line was often richly ornamented with trills, runs,

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01:07:54.559 --> 01:08:01.239
<v Speaker 1>and other virtue virtuosick effects. These the style promoted by

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01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:05.800
<v Speaker 1>the Masonic view was much less virtuosic and unornamented. Mozart's

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01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:09.039
<v Speaker 1>style of composition is often referred to as humanist and

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01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:13.400
<v Speaker 1>as and is in accord with this Masonic view of music.

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01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:16.920
<v Speaker 1>The music of the Freemasons contained musical phrases and forms

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01:08:16.920 --> 01:08:22.800
<v Speaker 1>that held specific semiotic meanings. For example, the Masonic initiation

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01:08:22.920 --> 01:08:26.159
<v Speaker 1>ceremony began with the candidate knocking three times at the

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01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:30.000
<v Speaker 1>door to ask admittance. This is expressed musically as a

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01:08:30.119 --> 01:08:31.239
<v Speaker 1>dotted figure.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a little piece of sheet note here that

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<v Speaker 2>shows the notes of the three knocks as musical notes,

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<v Speaker 2>if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Will, which is actually pretty interesting just as far as symbolism,

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01:08:43.319 --> 01:08:46.920
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like there's always two sides to every story, right,

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01:08:47.079 --> 01:08:49.880
<v Speaker 1>and somebody's always trying to paint somebody else as a

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01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:52.680
<v Speaker 1>bad guy that's playing on the dark side or something

1320
01:08:52.800 --> 01:08:55.319
<v Speaker 1>like that, and where they enlightened and you're not kind

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01:08:55.319 --> 01:08:57.840
<v Speaker 1>of thing. Everybody has their own view about what that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Right throughout all.

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<v Speaker 3>Of knots, there always will be.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if you think about it, like you were

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01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:07.479
<v Speaker 1>supposed to knock at the door three times to try

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01:09:07.520 --> 01:09:11.560
<v Speaker 1>and get admitted in, right, And it's almost like, what

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01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:14.239
<v Speaker 1>is it like vampires? Like they have to knock and

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01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:16.479
<v Speaker 1>you have to invite them in? And I almost wonder

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01:09:16.520 --> 01:09:19.119
<v Speaker 1>if that's like the church's way of calling out the

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01:09:19.119 --> 01:09:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Freemasons or whatever that you have to you have to

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01:09:21.880 --> 01:09:23.920
<v Speaker 1>welcome them in. They can't just step in your door

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01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:26.239
<v Speaker 1>because of their practices. Maybe I don't know, maybe I'm

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01:09:26.279 --> 01:09:27.159
<v Speaker 1>just piecing shit together.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, I think that there's a lot to say

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01:09:29.239 --> 01:09:29.640
<v Speaker 3>about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, as far as a becoming one, you have to

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01:09:32.199 --> 01:09:33.279
<v Speaker 2>ask three times.

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01:09:33.960 --> 01:09:35.600
<v Speaker 3>You ever heard the expression I'm here for you to

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01:09:35.680 --> 01:09:36.560
<v Speaker 3>tell me no? Twice?

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01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:40.640
<v Speaker 1>And yes once that was in Austin Powers remember.

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01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:42.680
<v Speaker 2>That that was in a lot of things. But that

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01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:46.000
<v Speaker 2>is a Masonic thing, right whenever you uh, this is

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01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:47.920
<v Speaker 2>how it's supposed to go anyway, not one hundred percent.

1344
01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:51.279
<v Speaker 2>But if you ask a Masonic lodge or a Mason like, hey,

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01:09:51.319 --> 01:09:52.800
<v Speaker 2>I want to be a Mason, they're supposed to tell

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01:09:52.840 --> 01:09:55.159
<v Speaker 2>you no, and then you're supposed.

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01:09:54.840 --> 01:09:55.359
<v Speaker 3>To ask them.

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01:09:55.680 --> 01:09:57.319
<v Speaker 2>Maybe in a couple of days, a couple of weeks,

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01:09:57.399 --> 01:09:59.000
<v Speaker 2>or even right after that. No, I want to be

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01:09:59.000 --> 01:09:59.520
<v Speaker 2>a free Mason.

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01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:02.560
<v Speaker 3>Let me be No. If you ask a third time,

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01:10:02.880 --> 01:10:04.079
<v Speaker 3>they will tell you yes.

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01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:06.840
<v Speaker 1>It makes sense. I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>Um So.

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<v Speaker 1>This figure appears in Mozart's opera The Magic Flute, in

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01:10:12.520 --> 01:10:16.319
<v Speaker 1>the overture, suggesting the opening of the Masonic Master Mason's degree.

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01:10:16.479 --> 01:10:19.199
<v Speaker 1>According to Catherine Thompson, there are many other examples of

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01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:23.359
<v Speaker 1>specific musical symbols taken from the Masonic rights that appear

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01:10:23.439 --> 01:10:27.279
<v Speaker 1>throughout Mozart's compositions. These include the use of suspensions to

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01:10:27.319 --> 01:10:31.560
<v Speaker 1>indicate friendship and brotherhood, the use of three part harmony

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01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:35.199
<v Speaker 1>harmony to emphasize the special significance of the number three

1362
01:10:35.199 --> 01:10:39.600
<v Speaker 1>in Freemasonry, and special rhythms and harmony to signify fortitude

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<v Speaker 1>and other attributes. Notwithstanding these manifestations of Freemasonry and Mozart's

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01:10:44.399 --> 01:10:49.119
<v Speaker 1>music and activities, some scholars question Mozart's personal commitment to

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01:10:49.199 --> 01:10:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Masonic ideology. Peter Fall Fox is that his last name, Paul?

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01:10:55.079 --> 01:10:58.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna hope that's Foots, But you know what it

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01:10:58.119 --> 01:11:01.520
<v Speaker 2>also is Austria, so that's probably fuck yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, Peter Paul Fox notes that Mozart was a devout Catholic,

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01:11:07.039 --> 01:11:11.800
<v Speaker 1>a religion that threatened Freemasons with excommunication. Mozart was pulled

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01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:16.359
<v Speaker 1>in various directions stylistically and probably personally. There is little

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01:11:16.399 --> 01:11:19.800
<v Speaker 1>evidence that he found these tensions troubling, he writes. However,

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01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:25.680
<v Speaker 1>in his book Mozart, The Mozart and the Enlightenment, Nicholas

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01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Till demonstrates that Mozart's original lodged, The Beneficent One, was

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01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:34.439
<v Speaker 1>a reform Catholic lodge following the tenets of the Italian

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01:11:34.479 --> 01:11:42.399
<v Speaker 1>liberal theologian Ludovico Moro Moratory, and was committed in particular

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01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:47.640
<v Speaker 1>to the Catholic ideal of charity and music. Musicologist David J.

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01:11:48.199 --> 01:11:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Buck Booch notes that many of Mozart's musical devices identified

1378
01:11:54.920 --> 01:11:58.359
<v Speaker 1>with Masonry have precedence in non Masonic music as well.

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01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:01.439
<v Speaker 1>For example, the three notes, which originate from the French

1380
01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:08.079
<v Speaker 1>genre of Les murvillu, already appeared in the musical theater

1381
01:12:08.199 --> 01:12:10.720
<v Speaker 1>of the early eighteenth century. The three chords in the

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01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:13.960
<v Speaker 1>overture can be found in many other eighteenth century stage works,

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01:12:14.159 --> 01:12:20.119
<v Speaker 1>such as Treeta's Armida and Gazinga's Las Cirque, operas that

1384
01:12:20.239 --> 01:12:24.119
<v Speaker 1>have no connection with Freemasonry, so somebody he's just arguing

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01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:25.199
<v Speaker 1>against it at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that being said, here's a list of Mozart's Masonic compositions. Okay,

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01:12:31.199 --> 01:12:33.359
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not going to read their German words because

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01:12:33.439 --> 01:12:38.399
<v Speaker 2>i don't speak the German. Oh, Helling's band or it's

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01:12:38.439 --> 01:12:42.600
<v Speaker 2>an oh, sacred bond of friendship between true brothers. Another

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01:12:42.640 --> 01:12:48.079
<v Speaker 2>one it's a fragment, but essentially it is a contanta

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01:12:48.279 --> 01:12:52.680
<v Speaker 2>or contata for two tenors, male chorus and orchestra in

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01:12:52.800 --> 01:12:58.560
<v Speaker 2>a seal. Del Waltel's Yeah, I guess song for tenor

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01:12:58.600 --> 01:13:02.680
<v Speaker 2>and piano for use at an installation of New Journeymen,

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01:13:03.800 --> 01:13:07.039
<v Speaker 2>for use at installation of new Journeymen He's talk about

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01:13:07.039 --> 01:13:10.399
<v Speaker 2>for a Masonic temple and for becoming a journeyman. There's

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01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:12.800
<v Speaker 2>another one for a male course and orchestra. It's called

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01:13:12.840 --> 01:13:17.680
<v Speaker 2>the Mason's Joy. There's one for Masonic funeral music. There

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01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:20.880
<v Speaker 2>is one for two songs for tenor, male chorus and

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01:13:21.039 --> 01:13:23.840
<v Speaker 2>organ use for the opening and closing of ceremonies of

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01:13:23.880 --> 01:13:28.600
<v Speaker 2>the lodge in Austria. There is another one here, Oh

1401
01:13:28.680 --> 01:13:31.920
<v Speaker 2>those are the names of them. Sorry, little German cantata

1402
01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:35.840
<v Speaker 2>which was for tenors and piano for the use at

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01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:40.520
<v Speaker 2>meetings of the Colony of Friends of Nature. This next

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01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:44.159
<v Speaker 2>piece is for two tenors base male cours and orchestra

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01:13:44.399 --> 01:13:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Klein fremature contante.

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01:13:46.720 --> 01:13:49.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure what that's for. Song for male choruses.

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01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:52.319
<v Speaker 2>This one is for the closing of the lodge and

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01:13:52.439 --> 01:13:55.800
<v Speaker 2>intended final chorus and the story and music of his.

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01:13:55.760 --> 01:13:57.039
<v Speaker 3>Opera The Magic Flute.

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01:13:57.359 --> 01:14:00.720
<v Speaker 2>So these are all just a brief rundown of compositions

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01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:04.239
<v Speaker 2>from the year seventeen seventy two to seventeen ninety one

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01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:09.600
<v Speaker 2>where he absolutely had his hand in freemasonry. Right now,

1413
01:14:09.880 --> 01:14:12.239
<v Speaker 2>quick list of fellow Masons, and I'm not going to

1414
01:14:12.279 --> 01:14:15.079
<v Speaker 2>go over all the names here, but friends of his,

1415
01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:19.319
<v Speaker 2>his brother in law, another friend, his father, a friend

1416
01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:21.560
<v Speaker 2>of his that loaned him money a good bit, a

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01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:25.279
<v Speaker 2>patron of his arts, a royal servant that was a

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01:14:25.279 --> 01:14:28.800
<v Speaker 2>friend of his, another friend and colleague, a brother and

1419
01:14:28.920 --> 01:14:32.760
<v Speaker 2>founder of the charity lodge we talked about here, and

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01:14:33.359 --> 01:14:35.520
<v Speaker 2>one of the people that was very heavily involved in

1421
01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:38.159
<v Speaker 2>the creation of the Magic Flute. All these people that

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01:14:38.199 --> 01:14:42.399
<v Speaker 2>were surrounding him at that level of society were absolutely

1423
01:14:42.439 --> 01:14:43.199
<v Speaker 2>free Masons.

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01:14:43.199 --> 01:14:44.279
<v Speaker 3>And that's all guaranteed.

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01:14:44.319 --> 01:14:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Here now most reason to believe that it was a

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01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Masonic kind of creation.

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01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's one hundred percent confirmed. I never knew that.

1428
01:14:53.920 --> 01:14:59.000
<v Speaker 2>I've heard that little we have heard that so many times.

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01:14:59.039 --> 01:15:03.279
<v Speaker 2>I had no idea that these very notes were dripping

1430
01:15:03.840 --> 01:15:07.159
<v Speaker 2>in Masonic lore all the way through.

1431
01:15:07.239 --> 01:15:08.520
<v Speaker 3>That's interesting as fuck to me.

1432
01:15:08.720 --> 01:15:11.479
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, dude, And I don't know if whenever your

1433
01:15:11.560 --> 01:15:15.520
<v Speaker 1>kids were little, did you guys, did you help them

1434
01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:17.640
<v Speaker 1>watch this show called Little Einstein's.

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01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:19.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh for sure. They have a lot of Mozart in the.

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01:15:19.880 --> 01:15:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Dude, I used to love that shit. That was so good.

1437
01:15:22.720 --> 01:15:24.920
<v Speaker 1>My daughter was addicted to that show.

1438
01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's that was back. Have you seen what

1439
01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:32.720
<v Speaker 2>these kids are watching these days? And I'm not saying

1440
01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:34.760
<v Speaker 2>like kids are like early teens, I mean like four

1441
01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:38.439
<v Speaker 2>little kids. It's there is a clear line in the

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01:15:38.520 --> 01:15:41.520
<v Speaker 2>sand that was drawn, I would say sometime in the

1443
01:15:41.600 --> 01:15:45.000
<v Speaker 2>last ten years where things were like overtly educational and

1444
01:15:45.039 --> 01:15:47.159
<v Speaker 2>there were some shows out there there were trash. Now

1445
01:15:47.199 --> 01:15:48.640
<v Speaker 2>you have to go out of your way to try

1446
01:15:48.680 --> 01:15:50.399
<v Speaker 2>to find educational material.

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01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a lot of bullshit out there, like Masha

1448
01:15:53.680 --> 01:15:56.319
<v Speaker 1>and the Bear. Dude, I can't stand in that damn show.

1449
01:15:56.359 --> 01:15:58.399
<v Speaker 1>There's a bunch of other ones that we always bring

1450
01:15:58.520 --> 01:16:01.039
<v Speaker 1>up to. But you know, my son, dude, he digs

1451
01:16:01.079 --> 01:16:03.439
<v Speaker 1>some Bluey. I get down with it. I can watch

1452
01:16:03.439 --> 01:16:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Bluey all day. There's this YouTube channel called Danny Go.

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01:16:06.680 --> 01:16:10.439
<v Speaker 1>He went to the concert and everything I mean informational,

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01:16:10.560 --> 01:16:14.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, entertaining, not not derogatory in any kind

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01:16:14.199 --> 01:16:16.199
<v Speaker 1>of way. It's okay. I think I look at it

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01:16:16.239 --> 01:16:20.840
<v Speaker 1>as like an ungay version of the Wiggles. Okay, fair,

1457
01:16:21.399 --> 01:16:25.680
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you're right, though not necessarily, you know, informational

1458
01:16:25.720 --> 01:16:28.840
<v Speaker 1>when trying to build up the intelligence or the intellect

1459
01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:30.479
<v Speaker 1>of the of the child in any way.

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01:16:31.199 --> 01:16:34.479
<v Speaker 2>But Mozart does, and they've always said Mozart makes baby smart?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yes?

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01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Is it possible that this is because in his music

1463
01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:42.960
<v Speaker 2>he was putting in certain notes that he knew would

1464
01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:46.159
<v Speaker 2>stimulate the mind, would actually get some things firing off

1465
01:16:46.199 --> 01:16:48.800
<v Speaker 2>on all synapses up there, even for a young mind.

1466
01:16:49.399 --> 01:16:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Coco Melon was the one I was thinking of that

1467
01:16:51.159 --> 01:16:54.039
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk to shit on, dude. I that's

1468
01:16:54.039 --> 01:16:56.239
<v Speaker 1>not allowed in my house. It's just not absolutely not.

1469
01:16:56.720 --> 01:16:59.680
<v Speaker 1>It's it's terrible for a little kid to watch. But

1470
01:17:00.279 --> 01:17:01.720
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about that plenty of times.

1471
01:17:02.039 --> 01:17:02.680
<v Speaker 3>We have we have.

1472
01:17:02.840 --> 01:17:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Now let's go on to another quick little article here.

1473
01:17:06.840 --> 01:17:11.000
<v Speaker 2>This is the Berliner Philarmonicer, right, and it's talking about

1474
01:17:11.319 --> 01:17:16.319
<v Speaker 2>composing and networking Mozart in Freemasonry. So again, Mozart being

1475
01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:18.680
<v Speaker 2>a Freemason is not a debatable conversation.

1476
01:17:18.760 --> 01:17:19.840
<v Speaker 3>That's an understood thing.

1477
01:17:20.039 --> 01:17:23.439
<v Speaker 2>Him having certain musical numbers that were put in for

1478
01:17:23.560 --> 01:17:27.600
<v Speaker 2>the principle of spreading free Masonic ideals.

1479
01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:29.520
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, Now that.

1480
01:17:29.560 --> 01:17:32.359
<v Speaker 2>Being said, was there a little more going on to

1481
01:17:32.439 --> 01:17:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Mozart being a Mason rather than him just feeling the

1482
01:17:35.560 --> 01:17:39.199
<v Speaker 2>call of the brotherhood? Was this possibly because keep in

1483
01:17:39.239 --> 01:17:42.079
<v Speaker 2>mind he was also not a struggling artist by any means,

1484
01:17:42.079 --> 01:17:44.199
<v Speaker 2>but he had a propensity to spend a lot of

1485
01:17:44.239 --> 01:17:46.319
<v Speaker 2>money really quickly. Like we said, you boy like to

1486
01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:49.880
<v Speaker 2>party hard, right, So is it possible that he got

1487
01:17:49.920 --> 01:17:52.840
<v Speaker 2>involved with freemasonry not just for his own enlightenment, but

1488
01:17:52.880 --> 01:17:55.319
<v Speaker 2>also as a way of networking, as a way of

1489
01:17:56.079 --> 01:17:58.880
<v Speaker 2>trying to find some wealthy benefactors that might fund his

1490
01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:01.199
<v Speaker 2>music and his next perform Mormans and these things too.

1491
01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:04.439
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you left out a little piece of

1492
01:18:04.520 --> 01:18:06.840
<v Speaker 1>vital information there. You mentioned about how he liked to

1493
01:18:06.960 --> 01:18:09.720
<v Speaker 1>party hard. He also liked to fuck. Now, if you

1494
01:18:10.039 --> 01:18:11.920
<v Speaker 1>like to fuck, then you go to Adam and Eve

1495
01:18:12.039 --> 01:18:15.239
<v Speaker 1>dot com and you use the promo code Cult. You'll

1496
01:18:15.239 --> 01:18:17.960
<v Speaker 1>get fifty percent off of your entire order, plus ten

1497
01:18:18.000 --> 01:18:21.439
<v Speaker 1>free goodies, free shipping, and completely discrete sent right to

1498
01:18:21.479 --> 01:18:26.079
<v Speaker 1>your door. Everybody likes to dabble into the sexual dark arts.

1499
01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Adam and Eve has all of that. Go and check

1500
01:18:27.960 --> 01:18:33.439
<v Speaker 1>it out over there. Use a promo code Cult. You

1501
01:18:33.479 --> 01:18:34.640
<v Speaker 1>gotta throw that in there.

1502
01:18:35.159 --> 01:18:36.199
<v Speaker 3>No doubt, no doubt.

1503
01:18:36.520 --> 01:18:39.560
<v Speaker 2>So let's see if there was maybe some more things

1504
01:18:39.600 --> 01:18:41.319
<v Speaker 2>afoot with him joining the launch.

1505
01:18:41.800 --> 01:18:46.439
<v Speaker 1>In the eighteenth century, Freemasonry combined mysterious rituals with enlightenment ideals.

1506
01:18:46.479 --> 01:18:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Mozart was a member of this secretive society. His affiliations

1507
01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:55.560
<v Speaker 1>repeatedly reflected in his works, not only in Die Zaborflot,

1508
01:18:56.079 --> 01:19:00.520
<v Speaker 1>but also in his incidental music for Thamos calling in

1509
01:19:01.000 --> 01:19:02.359
<v Speaker 1>Egypt Tin.

1510
01:19:04.159 --> 01:19:06.479
<v Speaker 2>The King of Egypt. I think that one's the king

1511
01:19:06.520 --> 01:19:09.760
<v Speaker 2>of Egypt and this is the magic flute.

1512
01:19:09.760 --> 01:19:10.279
<v Speaker 3>But anyway.

1513
01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Leopold Mozart and his son traveled to Vienna in the

1514
01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:17.159
<v Speaker 1>summer of seventeen seventy three and visited the famous doctor

1515
01:19:17.239 --> 01:19:22.399
<v Speaker 1>Franz Anton Mesmer. Oh, that's where mesmerization comes from. Who

1516
01:19:22.520 --> 01:19:25.239
<v Speaker 1>lived in a villa in a large park. His open

1517
01:19:25.239 --> 01:19:28.520
<v Speaker 1>house attracted visitors from far and wide. He was a

1518
01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:31.720
<v Speaker 1>member of the middle class, with vast wealth at his disposal.

1519
01:19:31.920 --> 01:19:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Contemporaries wandered or wondered how this was possible. Was it

1520
01:19:35.960 --> 01:19:39.079
<v Speaker 1>because he was a freemason. The most Arts also met

1521
01:19:39.119 --> 01:19:43.199
<v Speaker 1>another freemason, the writer and theater administrator Franz rein Hard

1522
01:19:43.479 --> 01:19:47.079
<v Speaker 1>who Feld, at his home. We can never know whether

1523
01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:50.600
<v Speaker 1>or not it was who Feld who drew Mozart's attention

1524
01:19:50.720 --> 01:19:55.439
<v Speaker 1>to Tobias Philip von Gebler's play called what was That?

1525
01:19:55.560 --> 01:19:56.600
<v Speaker 1>The Egyptian One?

1526
01:19:57.000 --> 01:19:59.079
<v Speaker 3>Famous Conigan Egypt ten.

1527
01:20:00.479 --> 01:20:04.640
<v Speaker 1>But we do know that soon afterward, soon afterwards, Mozart

1528
01:20:04.680 --> 01:20:08.760
<v Speaker 1>stated or started to set two choruses from the play

1529
01:20:08.800 --> 01:20:12.119
<v Speaker 1>to music. It was probably in seventeen seventy two that Mozart,

1530
01:20:12.119 --> 01:20:16.520
<v Speaker 1>then sixteen years old, wrote his song in praise, Yeah,

1531
01:20:16.600 --> 01:20:20.680
<v Speaker 1>song in praise of Solomon Saint John's Lodge K one

1532
01:20:21.079 --> 01:20:23.359
<v Speaker 1>eight for tenor male voice, chorus and keyboard.

1533
01:20:23.600 --> 01:20:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Mozart quick sixteen years old, and he's writing a song

1534
01:20:27.920 --> 01:20:33.039
<v Speaker 2>of praise of the Solomon of Saint John's Lodge, sixteen

1535
01:20:33.079 --> 01:20:35.000
<v Speaker 2>years old. You're not allowed to be a Freemason at

1536
01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:38.439
<v Speaker 2>that early age. But there he was being inspired by it.

1537
01:20:38.680 --> 01:20:40.680
<v Speaker 1>As the kids would say, he was built different.

1538
01:20:41.239 --> 01:20:41.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1539
01:20:42.039 --> 01:20:44.880
<v Speaker 1>So Mozart was not yet a member of any Masonic lodge,

1540
01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:47.479
<v Speaker 1>and neither was his father. All that has survived of

1541
01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:50.520
<v Speaker 1>this piece is the melody and the baseline, Oh, sacred

1542
01:20:50.520 --> 01:20:54.520
<v Speaker 1>bond of friendship TwixT true brothers, akin to highest happiness

1543
01:20:54.600 --> 01:20:57.600
<v Speaker 1>and Eden's joys, A friend to faith and never more

1544
01:20:57.640 --> 01:21:00.920
<v Speaker 1>against it, well known to all the world, yet full

1545
01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:04.000
<v Speaker 1>of mystery. Here we find a feature that was to

1546
01:21:04.239 --> 01:21:07.319
<v Speaker 1>return in many of the Masonic works that Mozart would

1547
01:21:07.319 --> 01:21:10.359
<v Speaker 1>go on to write. The chorus has the last word.

1548
01:21:11.439 --> 01:21:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Indeed, now let's talk a little bit about it being

1549
01:21:14.079 --> 01:21:17.359
<v Speaker 2>a useful network for friends of the invitement. The Freemasons,

1550
01:21:17.600 --> 01:21:21.680
<v Speaker 2>whose heyday was in the eighteenth century, embodied the highest ideals.

1551
01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Although the lodge was a cult like symbolic community, writes

1552
01:21:25.560 --> 01:21:29.920
<v Speaker 2>the Mozart biographer Eva gesen Bauer, it was, above all

1553
01:21:30.039 --> 01:21:33.000
<v Speaker 2>a community of like minded men, bent on action, and

1554
01:21:33.039 --> 01:21:35.439
<v Speaker 2>made up of members of the upper and lower middle

1555
01:21:35.479 --> 01:21:39.880
<v Speaker 2>classes of the aristocracy. The links that were forged here

1556
01:21:39.920 --> 01:21:44.159
<v Speaker 2>were advantageous to everyone who was dependent on aristocratic patronage.

1557
01:21:44.199 --> 01:21:47.960
<v Speaker 2>At court, Leopold Mozart was a hard working businessman who

1558
01:21:47.960 --> 01:21:51.359
<v Speaker 2>saw the Freemasons had an excellent network of contacts at

1559
01:21:51.439 --> 01:21:55.039
<v Speaker 2>their disposal, and this network could be of use to

1560
01:21:55.159 --> 01:21:59.760
<v Speaker 2>him and his son. Freemasons occupied key positions, notably as

1561
01:21:59.800 --> 01:22:04.720
<v Speaker 2>sos in the court orchestra of manham Manheim. Rather, but

1562
01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:08.000
<v Speaker 2>by the same token, several members of the Concert Spiritual

1563
01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:11.920
<v Speaker 2>in Paris, one of the finest orchestras in France, were Freemasons.

1564
01:22:12.279 --> 01:22:15.520
<v Speaker 2>But many rumors were circulating at that time what exactly

1565
01:22:15.560 --> 01:22:18.279
<v Speaker 2>did Freemasons get up to at their meetings? Did they

1566
01:22:18.279 --> 01:22:22.079
<v Speaker 2>worship the devil? Or were they planning an international conspiracy?

1567
01:22:22.319 --> 01:22:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Little information reached the outside world. All that was reported

1568
01:22:25.680 --> 01:22:29.840
<v Speaker 2>was that their activities served as served a humanitarian goals

1569
01:22:30.399 --> 01:22:33.560
<v Speaker 2>and that Freemasons followed the paths of true and brotherly love.

1570
01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:36.600
<v Speaker 2>Silence was also said to be one of their fundamental values,

1571
01:22:36.880 --> 01:22:40.840
<v Speaker 2>be steadfast, patient, and silent. Seeing the three boys in

1572
01:22:41.239 --> 01:22:45.600
<v Speaker 2>the Magic Flute, and Serastra warns that within these hollowed

1573
01:22:45.640 --> 01:22:50.000
<v Speaker 2>halls where mankind loves his fellow, man no trader can

1574
01:22:50.039 --> 01:22:53.479
<v Speaker 2>never lurk. So you're saying that in the Magic Flute,

1575
01:22:53.520 --> 01:22:58.039
<v Speaker 2>there's all of these references to this play where there's

1576
01:22:58.119 --> 01:23:01.479
<v Speaker 2>obviously Masonic inspiration, so to it.

1577
01:23:01.319 --> 01:23:03.840
<v Speaker 1>It would only be a man's rule that there would

1578
01:23:03.880 --> 01:23:06.319
<v Speaker 1>have to be silence. You know, I just want to

1579
01:23:06.359 --> 01:23:08.399
<v Speaker 1>throw that out there, you know what I mean, Like,

1580
01:23:08.439 --> 01:23:11.199
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine too many female lodges that have that

1581
01:23:11.319 --> 01:23:12.560
<v Speaker 1>rule in there. Y'all talk a lot.

1582
01:23:13.560 --> 01:23:16.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there are female Masons these days though it's

1583
01:23:16.359 --> 01:23:19.520
<v Speaker 2>the Order of the Eastern Star, although there is a

1584
01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:23.119
<v Speaker 2>lot of argument to whether these women will ever get

1585
01:23:23.159 --> 01:23:26.119
<v Speaker 2>the entire keys of knowledge that the men get. Are

1586
01:23:26.159 --> 01:23:29.479
<v Speaker 2>they seen as equal sisters or are they seen as Basically,

1587
01:23:29.840 --> 01:23:31.520
<v Speaker 2>the dudes had to make a group to where their

1588
01:23:31.560 --> 01:23:33.640
<v Speaker 2>wives are stout giving them shit for going to lodge

1589
01:23:33.640 --> 01:23:36.359
<v Speaker 2>meetings so much so they finally form their own female groups.

1590
01:23:36.359 --> 01:23:38.239
<v Speaker 2>They could kind of do their own thing and fuck off.

1591
01:23:38.760 --> 01:23:41.359
<v Speaker 2>I've heard arguments for both, to be completely honest with you,

1592
01:23:41.399 --> 01:23:42.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm not a Mason.

1593
01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh how about this. The Order of the Eastern Star

1594
01:23:45.760 --> 01:23:49.159
<v Speaker 1>does not have a former vowel, a formal vow of

1595
01:23:49.239 --> 01:23:52.920
<v Speaker 1>silence like some religious traditions, but it emphasizes secrecy and

1596
01:23:52.960 --> 01:23:55.039
<v Speaker 1>discretion regarding its rituals and teachings.

1597
01:23:56.039 --> 01:23:59.359
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, like I said, is this just where the

1598
01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:02.319
<v Speaker 2>Masons sent their wives? Though, y'all have your own hen

1599
01:24:02.399 --> 01:24:05.840
<v Speaker 2>cackling club. Yeah, you can call it the Eastern Star. Yeah,

1600
01:24:05.840 --> 01:24:08.720
<v Speaker 2>no doubt. Here, here's some some aprons you can wear. Sure, sure, sure,

1601
01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:10.520
<v Speaker 2>let us go do our thing like it could very

1602
01:24:10.520 --> 01:24:10.800
<v Speaker 2>well be.

1603
01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:13.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like, look, you don't need to shut up,

1604
01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:16.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, but you gotta keep your secrets. You don't

1605
01:24:16.760 --> 01:24:19.920
<v Speaker 1>need to be going around and you know, telling your

1606
01:24:19.960 --> 01:24:22.600
<v Speaker 1>neighbor about what you're getting into in the lodge with

1607
01:24:22.680 --> 01:24:26.359
<v Speaker 1>no windows, like just not just you know, keep it

1608
01:24:26.439 --> 01:24:27.880
<v Speaker 1>zipped up for a little while.

1609
01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of that, this picture that we are looking at

1610
01:24:30.359 --> 01:24:32.840
<v Speaker 2>right now is a very famous painting of what is

1611
01:24:32.960 --> 01:24:36.279
<v Speaker 2>inside the Freemason's Lodge in Vienna at this time.

1612
01:24:36.359 --> 01:24:38.760
<v Speaker 3>This is the lodge that Mozart was a part of.

1613
01:24:39.680 --> 01:24:41.560
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty sick actually, right.

1614
01:24:41.600 --> 01:24:44.439
<v Speaker 2>You see the guy blindfolded right here, he's going through initiation.

1615
01:24:44.960 --> 01:24:47.640
<v Speaker 2>You have all these guys sitting around it, the floors,

1616
01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:51.560
<v Speaker 2>the pillars, right, all the iconic things, the three candles,

1617
01:24:51.600 --> 01:24:55.039
<v Speaker 2>the triangle, they don't show the checkerboard floor here. But

1618
01:24:55.199 --> 01:24:57.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like I said, I don't know if this

1619
01:24:57.079 --> 01:24:59.600
<v Speaker 2>is an artist rendition or if this was a brother

1620
01:24:59.720 --> 01:25:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Mace who also painted this themselves. I know, But anyway,

1621
01:25:04.079 --> 01:25:07.000
<v Speaker 2>let's look into when Mozart joined the brotherhood.

1622
01:25:07.279 --> 01:25:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Eleven years after visiting Mesmer's house in Vienna, on December fourteenth,

1623
01:25:10.920 --> 01:25:14.520
<v Speaker 1>seventeen eighty four, Mozart finally became a freemason. No evidence

1624
01:25:14.560 --> 01:25:18.119
<v Speaker 1>survives to indicate what may finally have promoted or prompted

1625
01:25:18.199 --> 01:25:20.640
<v Speaker 1>him to act. Did he feel that he had been

1626
01:25:20.720 --> 01:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>misunderstood as an artist? Was he looking for new friends?

1627
01:25:23.800 --> 01:25:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Was he driven by financial motivation? All that we can

1628
01:25:26.880 --> 01:25:30.600
<v Speaker 1>say for certain is that free freemason reflourished in the

1629
01:25:30.840 --> 01:25:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Vienna of Joseph the Second. Indeed, the Journal for the

1630
01:25:37.840 --> 01:25:42.039
<v Speaker 1>Journal for Frey Mauer was founded in seventeen eighty four

1631
01:25:42.319 --> 01:25:45.680
<v Speaker 1>at a time when, according to its inaugural issue, the

1632
01:25:45.720 --> 01:25:50.039
<v Speaker 1>better part of humanity is at pains to free reason

1633
01:25:50.399 --> 01:25:54.199
<v Speaker 1>from the oppressive burden of prejudices both sacred and profane

1634
01:25:54.279 --> 01:25:57.760
<v Speaker 1>in quotes. The Crowned Hope Lodge was largely made up

1635
01:25:57.800 --> 01:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>of members of the aristocrat aristocracy, while the tradesmen of

1636
01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:07.319
<v Speaker 1>the middle classes frequented the Saint Joseph Lodge. Two lodges

1637
01:26:07.359 --> 01:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>where the members of the educated middle classes met were

1638
01:26:11.319 --> 01:26:15.399
<v Speaker 1>in quotes true concord and beneficence, both of those lodges.

1639
01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:18.479
<v Speaker 2>So you can already see that there is multiple lodges

1640
01:26:18.520 --> 01:26:20.359
<v Speaker 2>going on here at the same time. There's one where

1641
01:26:20.359 --> 01:26:24.079
<v Speaker 2>it's for the higher class individuals. Then you have this

1642
01:26:24.159 --> 01:26:26.079
<v Speaker 2>other lodge on the other side of town that's for

1643
01:26:26.239 --> 01:26:28.880
<v Speaker 2>more of the tradesmen, right, and all these things. Then

1644
01:26:28.920 --> 01:26:31.359
<v Speaker 2>you have these other lodges where both of these parties

1645
01:26:31.359 --> 01:26:33.399
<v Speaker 2>would meet, and it will kind of be the combining

1646
01:26:33.439 --> 01:26:35.039
<v Speaker 2>of the minds, if you will think.

1647
01:26:34.840 --> 01:26:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Of it like a job site.

1648
01:26:35.960 --> 01:26:39.960
<v Speaker 2>You've got your your office hands, your superintendents, your general

1649
01:26:40.039 --> 01:26:41.319
<v Speaker 2>foremans and all these things.

1650
01:26:41.600 --> 01:26:42.439
<v Speaker 3>And you have your.

1651
01:26:42.439 --> 01:26:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Field hands and your field foremans and these types, right,

1652
01:26:45.199 --> 01:26:47.119
<v Speaker 2>and they operate in different fields, they go to very

1653
01:26:47.119 --> 01:26:49.560
<v Speaker 2>different meetings. But ever now and then there will be

1654
01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:51.640
<v Speaker 2>a big meeting where all of the heads, whether their

1655
01:26:51.640 --> 01:26:55.079
<v Speaker 2>field hands or office hands, will come together to get

1656
01:26:55.119 --> 01:26:57.279
<v Speaker 2>on the same page and make sure that everybody's moving

1657
01:26:57.279 --> 01:26:58.119
<v Speaker 2>in the same direction.

1658
01:26:58.640 --> 01:26:59.479
<v Speaker 3>Does this make sense?

1659
01:27:00.119 --> 01:27:00.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

1660
01:27:00.359 --> 01:27:04.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So the lodge that Mozart joined was Beneficence, which

1661
01:27:04.399 --> 01:27:07.159
<v Speaker 1>had been founded only a year earlier in seventeen eighty three.

1662
01:27:07.560 --> 01:27:12.039
<v Speaker 1>A glance at the subscription list for Mozart's Wednesday Concerts,

1663
01:27:12.039 --> 01:27:15.319
<v Speaker 1>which started in March seventeen eighty four, reveals a strikingly

1664
01:27:15.399 --> 01:27:18.159
<v Speaker 1>large number of fellow Masons. These members seem to know

1665
01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:23.560
<v Speaker 1>value and support one another. After joining the lodge, Mozart

1666
01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:26.600
<v Speaker 1>wrote a whole series of pieces, most of them intended

1667
01:27:26.600 --> 01:27:31.720
<v Speaker 1>for specific occasions. They include the lead zur, the song

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01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:36.439
<v Speaker 1>that its song for the Journeyman's Travels, two songs for

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01:27:36.520 --> 01:27:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Malevoy's Choir, and a Freemason's Joy and Masonic funeral music.

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01:27:43.920 --> 01:27:46.239
<v Speaker 1>It included all those songs. In the spring of seventeen

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01:27:46.279 --> 01:27:49.439
<v Speaker 1>eighty five, Leopold Mozart became an apprentice at the Lodge

1672
01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>of the True Concord and Vienna Freemason re Proliferated. Joseph

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01:27:54.800 --> 01:27:57.079
<v Speaker 1>the Second put a stop to this when he limited

1674
01:27:57.119 --> 01:27:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the number of lodges, imposing a cap on their members.

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01:28:00.199 --> 01:28:03.359
<v Speaker 1>As a result, Mozart joined the new Crowned Hope Lodge

1676
01:28:03.359 --> 01:28:05.920
<v Speaker 1>in January seventeen eighty six, after a number of smaller

1677
01:28:05.960 --> 01:28:07.319
<v Speaker 1>lodges were merged together.

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01:28:08.279 --> 01:28:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Indeed, so this is when they started getting more oppressed

1679
01:28:12.439 --> 01:28:13.479
<v Speaker 2>in their native land.

1680
01:28:14.319 --> 01:28:15.960
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, let's continue.

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01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:18.960
<v Speaker 2>So now we're talking about the magic flute and its symbolism.

1682
01:28:19.319 --> 01:28:21.239
<v Speaker 2>There is a well known oil painting from the late

1683
01:28:21.279 --> 01:28:24.159
<v Speaker 2>seventeen eighties depicting the interior of a Masonic lodge. That's

1684
01:28:24.159 --> 01:28:26.000
<v Speaker 2>the painting that I showed right here on the left,

1685
01:28:26.399 --> 01:28:28.960
<v Speaker 2>But which one The answer is unclear. It is possible

1686
01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:31.359
<v Speaker 2>that it does not represent a particular lodge, but is

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01:28:31.479 --> 01:28:35.000
<v Speaker 2>rather a kind of collage designed to capture key features

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01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:37.560
<v Speaker 2>of a life in a lodge. The painting is also

1689
01:28:37.560 --> 01:28:40.000
<v Speaker 2>famous because at the right hand side of the image

1690
01:28:40.000 --> 01:28:42.359
<v Speaker 2>we can see a man who has repeatedly been identified

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01:28:42.439 --> 01:28:46.920
<v Speaker 2>as mostart. He can be seen in an agitated conversation

1692
01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:48.960
<v Speaker 2>with the man standing next to him. It is not

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01:28:49.039 --> 01:28:52.399
<v Speaker 2>possible to say if this second person is the clarinetist

1694
01:28:52.399 --> 01:29:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Anton Stadler or the playwright Emmanuel Schicknieder Schiicinieder, whatever you know. Anyway,

1695
01:29:01.680 --> 01:29:06.039
<v Speaker 2>soide of the point, Mozart worked with Chickenaeder on the

1696
01:29:06.079 --> 01:29:10.319
<v Speaker 2>Magic Flute, a songspiel that has repeatedly and with good reason,

1697
01:29:10.359 --> 01:29:13.800
<v Speaker 2>been interpreted in the context of Freemasonry even today. The

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01:29:13.840 --> 01:29:18.680
<v Speaker 2>work continues to be reinterpreted reinterpretated rather yeah reinterpret et

1699
01:29:18.720 --> 01:29:19.199
<v Speaker 2>c right.

1700
01:29:19.279 --> 01:29:20.760
<v Speaker 3>The piece reflects the spirit of.

1701
01:29:20.720 --> 01:29:23.640
<v Speaker 2>An age in the late eighteenth century in Vienna and

1702
01:29:23.800 --> 01:29:26.520
<v Speaker 2>mirrors the social upheaval of the period as well as

1703
01:29:26.520 --> 01:29:30.279
<v Speaker 2>the values of the Enlightenment. It also includes timeless elements

1704
01:29:30.359 --> 01:29:33.079
<v Speaker 2>drawn from the world of fairy tales, but it also

1705
01:29:33.479 --> 01:29:38.760
<v Speaker 2>has been interpreted as the light of its affinities with Freemasonry.

1706
01:29:39.159 --> 01:29:42.119
<v Speaker 2>The music is rich in Masonic symbolism. One component of

1707
01:29:42.159 --> 01:29:46.119
<v Speaker 2>the ritual that is enacted here is the priest's fanfare,

1708
01:29:46.600 --> 01:29:49.359
<v Speaker 2>heard for the first time in the overture. This fanfare

1709
01:29:49.479 --> 01:29:52.319
<v Speaker 2>imitates the hammer blows of the grand Master, who is

1710
01:29:52.319 --> 01:29:54.680
<v Speaker 2>in charge of the lodge and who sits by the altar,

1711
01:29:55.199 --> 01:29:58.079
<v Speaker 2>and of his two assistants during the ceremony in the temple.

1712
01:29:58.479 --> 01:30:02.800
<v Speaker 2>But despite these illusion Mozart gives away no Masonic secrets.

1713
01:30:02.880 --> 01:30:05.760
<v Speaker 2>He was astute enough to limit himself to the most

1714
01:30:05.840 --> 01:30:09.119
<v Speaker 2>general of illusions. Right up until the final months of

1715
01:30:09.159 --> 01:30:11.840
<v Speaker 2>his life, Mozart wrote music close to the Mason's world

1716
01:30:11.880 --> 01:30:15.199
<v Speaker 2>of ideas. As late as November fifteen, seventeen eighty one,

1717
01:30:15.319 --> 01:30:19.960
<v Speaker 2>he entered the Cantanta loudly proclaim Our Joy in the

1718
01:30:19.960 --> 01:30:22.960
<v Speaker 2>catalog of his compositions. Two days later, he conducted the

1719
01:30:22.960 --> 01:30:26.079
<v Speaker 2>first performance of the inauguration of the Temple of Crowned

1720
01:30:26.119 --> 01:30:30.319
<v Speaker 2>Hope Lodge when light was carried into the room. Three

1721
01:30:30.359 --> 01:30:34.960
<v Speaker 2>weeks later, he was dead, another of the world's great mysteries. Now,

1722
01:30:35.000 --> 01:30:37.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that there is some sort of conspiracy

1723
01:30:37.319 --> 01:30:40.600
<v Speaker 2>surrounding Mozart's death. It's very possible, right, But that's not

1724
01:30:40.640 --> 01:30:45.560
<v Speaker 2>what this conversation today is about. But you can see that, well,

1725
01:30:45.600 --> 01:30:48.279
<v Speaker 2>he was a Catholic, so it's very possible.

1726
01:30:48.640 --> 01:30:50.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, not astute anyway.

1727
01:30:51.520 --> 01:30:53.439
<v Speaker 3>It's also there's a conversation.

1728
01:30:53.000 --> 01:30:55.560
<v Speaker 2>To say that he died from an std right, there's

1729
01:30:55.560 --> 01:30:58.800
<v Speaker 2>a conversation to say that he died from over drinking.

1730
01:30:58.840 --> 01:31:01.640
<v Speaker 2>There's a conversation to say that he died from being poisoned.

1731
01:31:02.600 --> 01:31:06.359
<v Speaker 2>The reality is he had consumption which we would now

1732
01:31:06.399 --> 01:31:10.199
<v Speaker 2>call tuberculosis, and autopsies showed that he was suffering from

1733
01:31:10.199 --> 01:31:14.439
<v Speaker 2>this for a while. And he also drank like a fish.

1734
01:31:14.520 --> 01:31:17.720
<v Speaker 2>He partied hard. Whatever was going on during the day.

1735
01:31:17.720 --> 01:31:20.159
<v Speaker 2>If there was a drug of choice in this timeframe,

1736
01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:21.560
<v Speaker 2>he was dabbling like he was.

1737
01:31:21.760 --> 01:31:22.520
<v Speaker 3>This is just what he.

1738
01:31:22.479 --> 01:31:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Got down with, right, So I'm not saying poisoning as in,

1739
01:31:26.680 --> 01:31:29.439
<v Speaker 2>like a bad actor poisoned him.

1740
01:31:29.720 --> 01:31:32.359
<v Speaker 3>Now, would he have died from alcohol.

1741
01:31:32.039 --> 01:31:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Poisoning or something like that, maybe, But as far as

1742
01:31:35.640 --> 01:31:39.560
<v Speaker 2>I can sell, there are some conspiracy, conspiratorial conversations that

1743
01:31:39.640 --> 01:31:42.680
<v Speaker 2>he had about Mozart's death. But when you look at

1744
01:31:42.720 --> 01:31:44.880
<v Speaker 2>the autopsies and the reports of the people that found

1745
01:31:44.960 --> 01:31:47.399
<v Speaker 2>him and did and I'm granted we're talking to the

1746
01:31:47.479 --> 01:31:50.720
<v Speaker 2>late seventeen hundreds, it wasn't like they had the excess

1747
01:31:50.720 --> 01:31:53.600
<v Speaker 2>of medical technology that we have today, but all the

1748
01:31:53.640 --> 01:31:56.079
<v Speaker 2>telltale signs did not point to poison.

1749
01:31:56.640 --> 01:32:01.199
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, interesting, Okay, Well, I would actually be pretty

1750
01:32:01.199 --> 01:32:05.560
<v Speaker 1>interested to see which drugs he was messing around with.

1751
01:32:06.800 --> 01:32:10.079
<v Speaker 3>Well, if it was during this time, there's a conversation

1752
01:32:10.199 --> 01:32:10.720
<v Speaker 3>to say.

1753
01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:13.720
<v Speaker 2>That opiates or opium itself may have made its way

1754
01:32:14.119 --> 01:32:18.119
<v Speaker 2>to this section of Europe. But I mean, I'm trying

1755
01:32:18.159 --> 01:32:21.720
<v Speaker 2>to think when the Opium Wars took place, the East

1756
01:32:21.800 --> 01:32:25.640
<v Speaker 2>India Trading Company was big with making sure that England

1757
01:32:25.680 --> 01:32:27.960
<v Speaker 2>and by extension, most of Europe had that. But it

1758
01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:31.720
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have been like heroin. It would have been true

1759
01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:35.520
<v Speaker 2>traditional opium den type of things that were going down.

1760
01:32:36.560 --> 01:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>From what I could find, it was probably for the

1761
01:32:39.079 --> 01:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>area and the time, a little bit of marijuana.

1762
01:32:43.479 --> 01:32:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, I mean, hey, nobody's ever died from marijuana overdose.

1763
01:32:46.920 --> 01:32:47.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

1764
01:32:48.159 --> 01:32:51.359
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, all right, this next article that we have

1765
01:32:51.439 --> 01:32:55.800
<v Speaker 2>pulled up here is actually from a very interesting website,

1766
01:32:55.920 --> 01:33:01.239
<v Speaker 2>Universal co Masonry. This website, bro is uh you know,

1767
01:33:01.279 --> 01:33:05.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna show you their main page if you

1768
01:33:05.399 --> 01:33:08.960
<v Speaker 2>will tell me what you think about the way this

1769
01:33:09.079 --> 01:33:13.720
<v Speaker 2>looks pretty interesting.

1770
01:33:13.760 --> 01:33:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, there's a man and a woman.

1771
01:33:15.039 --> 01:33:16.920
<v Speaker 3>There there there is.

1772
01:33:16.880 --> 01:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Indeed, oh, free masonry for men and women. Okay, Oh,

1773
01:33:19.760 --> 01:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>that's the idea of Universal co Masonry then.

1774
01:33:21.840 --> 01:33:26.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, indeed, indeed, and so this website has a lot

1775
01:33:26.359 --> 01:33:27.199
<v Speaker 2>of information.

1776
01:33:27.359 --> 01:33:30.760
<v Speaker 3>Can women become Freemasons? Right, there's right off the rip.

1777
01:33:30.800 --> 01:33:32.159
<v Speaker 3>It's all about that equality.

1778
01:33:32.560 --> 01:33:36.600
<v Speaker 2>The path too serious as in the Egyptian god, which

1779
01:33:36.600 --> 01:33:39.159
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna see a lot of serious and Osiris references

1780
01:33:39.159 --> 01:33:42.199
<v Speaker 2>anytime you look into free masonry, and there's esoteric reasons

1781
01:33:42.199 --> 01:33:43.600
<v Speaker 2>for that, but we are not.

1782
01:33:43.600 --> 01:33:45.159
<v Speaker 3>Talking about that at this time.

1783
01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:48.960
<v Speaker 2>We are talking about freemasonry and the secrets of music.

1784
01:33:49.600 --> 01:33:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Are you ready to learn even more about what the

1785
01:33:52.199 --> 01:33:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Masons feel towards music.

1786
01:33:53.920 --> 01:33:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Brother music is as timeless as humanity itself, and it's

1787
01:33:58.079 --> 01:34:02.119
<v Speaker 1>harmonies and melodies bring us from the unmanifested to the manifest,

1788
01:34:02.119 --> 01:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>from the unreal to the real. What is the significance

1789
01:34:04.880 --> 01:34:08.199
<v Speaker 1>of music to the Freemason? And how how can its

1790
01:34:08.239 --> 01:34:11.680
<v Speaker 1>immutable principles teach us about the reality of Masonic ritual

1791
01:34:12.239 --> 01:34:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I do it on.

1792
01:34:12.760 --> 01:34:13.760
<v Speaker 3>Bank mentioned real quick.

1793
01:34:13.840 --> 01:34:16.960
<v Speaker 2>This was published September tenth of twenty twenty four from

1794
01:34:17.039 --> 01:34:22.479
<v Speaker 2>the very illustrious brother Pamela mcdown, thirty third degree.

1795
01:34:22.880 --> 01:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh indeed, imagine being called a brother brother, imagine that right.

1796
01:34:28.840 --> 01:34:31.159
<v Speaker 2>But even still, it is a thirty third degree Mason

1797
01:34:31.199 --> 01:34:33.640
<v Speaker 2>who wrote this. So this is somebody who has gone

1798
01:34:33.720 --> 01:34:36.439
<v Speaker 2>through all the rights, all the rituals, all of the things,

1799
01:34:36.479 --> 01:34:40.159
<v Speaker 2>paid their dues, and they, being a thirty third degree Mason,

1800
01:34:40.560 --> 01:34:43.760
<v Speaker 2>had the highest levels of knowledge and enlightenment as far

1801
01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:45.760
<v Speaker 2>as Blue Side Masonry would allow.

1802
01:34:45.920 --> 01:34:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Just throwing this out.

1803
01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:49.920
<v Speaker 1>As far as tradition goes, it goes against tradition. But

1804
01:34:50.079 --> 01:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>to say that a woman can't become enlightened, that's that's ridiculous.

1805
01:34:53.680 --> 01:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>So I understand why they would want to introduce both sexes.

1806
01:34:56.000 --> 01:34:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't see a.

1807
01:34:56.520 --> 01:34:57.039
<v Speaker 3>Problem with that.

1808
01:34:57.520 --> 01:35:00.159
<v Speaker 2>Now, I don't know. Maybe Pamela is a dude. There's

1809
01:35:00.159 --> 01:35:04.319
<v Speaker 2>been dudes with female names before. Stay saying that. That

1810
01:35:04.439 --> 01:35:06.560
<v Speaker 2>being said, I just want to make sure the female

1811
01:35:06.600 --> 01:35:07.319
<v Speaker 2>versus male on that.

1812
01:35:07.359 --> 01:35:09.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying. It's a thirty third degree Mason.

1813
01:35:09.560 --> 01:35:12.520
<v Speaker 2>So this is not somebody who's like a third level

1814
01:35:12.920 --> 01:35:14.960
<v Speaker 2>master Mason who's been in the Order for like five

1815
01:35:15.039 --> 01:35:17.199
<v Speaker 2>years that wrote an article about it. This is somebody

1816
01:35:17.199 --> 01:35:21.000
<v Speaker 2>that has dedicated the majority of their life to the Order.

1817
01:35:21.239 --> 01:35:25.319
<v Speaker 1>It's the Scottish rite, right, that goes up to thirty three.

1818
01:35:25.880 --> 01:35:29.960
<v Speaker 2>You can achieve thirty three from both York and Scottish. However,

1819
01:35:30.359 --> 01:35:32.399
<v Speaker 2>one of them kind of skip some levels. You got

1820
01:35:32.439 --> 01:35:39.000
<v Speaker 2>one through three, then you jump to five, seven, nine, thirteen, eighteen,

1821
01:35:39.199 --> 01:35:42.680
<v Speaker 2>twenty five, twenty seven, thirty and then thirty three the

1822
01:35:42.720 --> 01:35:43.039
<v Speaker 2>other one.

1823
01:35:43.079 --> 01:35:44.600
<v Speaker 3>You have to go through each individual step.

1824
01:35:44.880 --> 01:35:46.760
<v Speaker 2>It's been a while since I did a real deep

1825
01:35:46.800 --> 01:35:48.800
<v Speaker 2>dive into them, but yeah.

1826
01:35:48.479 --> 01:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I know. No better way to place a frame around

1827
01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>the ideas I would like to express in this article

1828
01:35:53.079 --> 01:35:55.960
<v Speaker 1>than to begin with a beautiful statement often attributed to

1829
01:35:56.199 --> 01:36:01.439
<v Speaker 1>Johann Sebastian Bach and the archie brother, Johann, I'm Trippin.

1830
01:36:02.760 --> 01:36:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I speak freedom. Okay, So Jay.

1831
01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:08.840
<v Speaker 3>We don't have j in this country. It's Johann.

1832
01:36:08.960 --> 01:36:13.359
<v Speaker 1>It's a hard j okay. In the architecture of music,

1833
01:36:13.560 --> 01:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>or of my music, I want to demonstrate to the

1834
01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:18.720
<v Speaker 1>world of the architecture of a new and beautiful social commonwealth.

1835
01:36:18.840 --> 01:36:21.760
<v Speaker 1>The secret of my harmony. I alone know it, each

1836
01:36:21.880 --> 01:36:26.920
<v Speaker 1>instrument in counterpoint, and as many counterpuntal parts as there

1837
01:36:26.960 --> 01:36:30.119
<v Speaker 1>are instruments. It is the enlightened self discipline of the

1838
01:36:30.199 --> 01:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>various parts, each voluntarily imposing on itself the limits of

1839
01:36:33.680 --> 01:36:36.600
<v Speaker 1>its individual freedom for the well being of the community.

1840
01:36:36.920 --> 01:36:39.520
<v Speaker 1>That is my message. Not the autocracy of a single

1841
01:36:39.520 --> 01:36:43.600
<v Speaker 1>stubborn melody on the one hand, nor the anarchy of

1842
01:36:43.720 --> 01:36:47.079
<v Speaker 1>unchecked noise on the other. No, a delicate balance between

1843
01:36:47.119 --> 01:36:50.319
<v Speaker 1>the two, an enlightened freedom, the science of my art,

1844
01:36:50.439 --> 01:36:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the art of my science, the harmony of the stars

1845
01:36:52.960 --> 01:36:55.319
<v Speaker 1>and the heavens, the yearning for brotherhood in the heart

1846
01:36:55.319 --> 01:36:59.319
<v Speaker 1>of man. This is the secret of my music. Of course,

1847
01:36:59.520 --> 01:37:04.119
<v Speaker 1>was from Bach bro That was Bach in the day, dude,

1848
01:37:04.479 --> 01:37:05.399
<v Speaker 1>you know ah.

1849
01:37:06.039 --> 01:37:08.399
<v Speaker 2>Now I will say this Bach himself, and I'm a

1850
01:37:08.399 --> 01:37:10.720
<v Speaker 2>fan of his and I've talked to people who are

1851
01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:15.479
<v Speaker 2>like professional opera singers and musicians in this realm, and

1852
01:37:15.560 --> 01:37:20.279
<v Speaker 2>I've always felt personally that Bach has had almost a

1853
01:37:20.319 --> 01:37:24.319
<v Speaker 2>mathematical principle to his music. If you ever listened to

1854
01:37:24.319 --> 01:37:26.239
<v Speaker 2>it and with the same level of intensity that you

1855
01:37:26.279 --> 01:37:27.920
<v Speaker 2>listen to that one song and you're like, bro, is

1856
01:37:27.920 --> 01:37:30.600
<v Speaker 2>there something extra going on here? If you listen to

1857
01:37:30.840 --> 01:37:34.640
<v Speaker 2>some of Bach's work, it almost sounds now I understand

1858
01:37:34.680 --> 01:37:36.520
<v Speaker 2>there's a tempo. That's not what I mean, but it

1859
01:37:36.680 --> 01:37:41.640
<v Speaker 2>sounds like it's very there's a structure, there's an order

1860
01:37:41.720 --> 01:37:45.119
<v Speaker 2>to it, right, there's a mathematical equation that is going

1861
01:37:45.159 --> 01:37:47.920
<v Speaker 2>on the entire time. I just talked to an opera

1862
01:37:47.960 --> 01:37:50.119
<v Speaker 2>singer when I went to Phoenix. As a matter of fact,

1863
01:37:50.159 --> 01:37:52.319
<v Speaker 2>a couple months ago, one of the members of an

1864
01:37:52.399 --> 01:37:54.760
<v Speaker 2>organization that I belonged to, he is an opera singer,

1865
01:37:54.800 --> 01:37:56.479
<v Speaker 2>and I said that to him and he's like, the

1866
01:37:56.600 --> 01:38:01.159
<v Speaker 2>going understanding is that Bach gave us the order, Mozart

1867
01:38:01.199 --> 01:38:04.640
<v Speaker 2>gave us the fire. And I'm like, oh, oh shit.

1868
01:38:05.119 --> 01:38:07.079
<v Speaker 2>And when he said that, it all clicked to me.

1869
01:38:07.520 --> 01:38:09.720
<v Speaker 2>And now it would only make sense that both of

1870
01:38:09.760 --> 01:38:12.000
<v Speaker 2>these individuals were free.

1871
01:38:11.760 --> 01:38:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Masons when he calls it a delicate balance between the

1872
01:38:14.600 --> 01:38:18.039
<v Speaker 1>two right and so it almost you know, it reminds

1873
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<v Speaker 1>you of the light and the dark, the black and

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01:38:20.319 --> 01:38:25.560
<v Speaker 1>the white checkerboard. Everything was always duality, duelist.

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<v Speaker 2>Night and the day. In the Magic Flute, for instance, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Brother yes, Yes. What follows will be an exploration of

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01:38:32.359 --> 01:38:35.760
<v Speaker 1>the notions of brotherhood and enlightened freedom. My aim will

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01:38:35.800 --> 01:38:38.520
<v Speaker 1>be to demonstrate that the architecture of music is an

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01:38:38.520 --> 01:38:41.760
<v Speaker 1>apt metaphor for the Masonic lodge work. What exactly are

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01:38:41.760 --> 01:38:44.039
<v Speaker 1>the secrets of music and how do these secrets relate

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01:38:44.079 --> 01:38:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to the craft craft?

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01:38:47.439 --> 01:38:49.239
<v Speaker 3>What freemasonry is not?

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01:38:49.840 --> 01:38:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Freemasonry is not the autocracy of a single stubborn melody.

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<v Speaker 2>As Box said, the above phrase highlights the dangers of

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<v Speaker 2>dominance and lack of diversity in music. It represents a

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01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:04.560
<v Speaker 2>scenario where one melody overpowers and dictates the entire composition,

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01:39:04.880 --> 01:39:09.920
<v Speaker 2>stifling the richness and complexity that multiple harmonizing parts can bring. Similarly,

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01:39:10.119 --> 01:39:14.600
<v Speaker 2>in freemasonry, this phrase warns against the concentration of power

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01:39:14.760 --> 01:39:18.399
<v Speaker 2>and the suppression of individual voices within the fraternity. Just

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01:39:18.399 --> 01:39:21.800
<v Speaker 2>as a symphony achieves its beauty through the harmonious interplay

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01:39:21.920 --> 01:39:25.479
<v Speaker 2>of various instruments. A Masonic lodge flourishes when it fosters

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01:39:25.520 --> 01:39:29.560
<v Speaker 2>an inclusive environment and cooperative ritual allowing for the collective

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01:39:29.600 --> 01:39:32.119
<v Speaker 2>wisdom and efforts of all of its members to create

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01:39:32.159 --> 01:39:37.399
<v Speaker 2>a unified, dynamic community. Freemasonry, again, is not the anarchy

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01:39:37.479 --> 01:39:40.640
<v Speaker 2>of unchecked noise direct quote from your boy Johann Vach.

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<v Speaker 2>In both music and freemasonry, chaos and disorder arise when

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01:39:45.560 --> 01:39:49.039
<v Speaker 2>there is a lack of structure, discipline, and harmony. In music,

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01:39:49.079 --> 01:39:52.880
<v Speaker 2>this phrase conveys the importance of balanced compositions, where each

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01:39:52.920 --> 01:39:58.439
<v Speaker 2>instrument contributes purposefully to the overall symphony, avoiding discordant and

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01:39:58.479 --> 01:40:04.399
<v Speaker 2>aimless sounds. Infreemasonry, this concept underscores the necessity of adhereing

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01:40:04.640 --> 01:40:08.000
<v Speaker 2>to Masonic principles and rituals to maintain order and unity

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01:40:08.039 --> 01:40:11.359
<v Speaker 2>within the fraternity. Both in music and in freemasonry, the

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01:40:11.399 --> 01:40:15.079
<v Speaker 2>anarchy of unchecked noise quote unquote serves as a metaphor

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01:40:15.119 --> 01:40:17.880
<v Speaker 2>for the breakdown of coherence and the loss of a

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01:40:17.920 --> 01:40:18.920
<v Speaker 2>shared purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, if you really think about it, I I was

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01:40:23.560 --> 01:40:25.319
<v Speaker 1>just thinking about this for a second. So I know

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<v Speaker 1>you have the different lodges. What is a It's called

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01:40:28.159 --> 01:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>like King Henry's Lodge for the for the Black Prince

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01:40:31.039 --> 01:40:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Henry Hall, Prince Henry's right, it's it's mainly for the

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01:40:34.159 --> 01:40:37.399
<v Speaker 1>black folk, right, and then you have only four yeah,

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01:40:37.439 --> 01:40:39.840
<v Speaker 1>and then you have the female lodge, which one was

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<v Speaker 1>that what called.

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<v Speaker 3>Again Order of the Eastern Star.

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<v Speaker 1>Order of the Eastern Star. I would actually suggest that

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<v Speaker 1>there is a much if we're looking at the spectrum

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01:40:49.479 --> 01:40:55.319
<v Speaker 1>of duality, right, that you're you're gonna get much more

1918
01:40:55.479 --> 01:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>equal and opposite ends of the spectrum of polarity with

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01:40:59.079 --> 01:41:01.520
<v Speaker 1>a man and a woman than you would a white

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01:41:01.520 --> 01:41:04.439
<v Speaker 1>man and a black man. So I'm not saying I

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01:41:04.439 --> 01:41:06.680
<v Speaker 1>think that everybody should be involved, but I'm saying, as

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01:41:06.760 --> 01:41:11.399
<v Speaker 1>far as the the differences go with the black and

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01:41:11.399 --> 01:41:14.279
<v Speaker 1>white that they're always trying to show up there, it

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01:41:14.319 --> 01:41:16.880
<v Speaker 1>would make sense that you would include both sexes. You know,

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01:41:16.960 --> 01:41:19.119
<v Speaker 1>the sun for the man, the moon for the woman.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always seen as opposites in that point, not necessarily

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01:41:23.760 --> 01:41:26.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, right and wrong, but more of just a

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01:41:26.159 --> 01:41:29.640
<v Speaker 1>night and day kind of thing. So so I understand

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01:41:29.640 --> 01:41:32.159
<v Speaker 1>their point here just as far as the symbolism goes.

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<v Speaker 2>So with that being said, I don't disagree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I see what you're saying, and I'm on the same

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01:41:38.760 --> 01:41:42.560
<v Speaker 2>page with you right now. I also, in my research

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01:41:42.640 --> 01:41:46.840
<v Speaker 2>have I'm more led to believe that the admittance of

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01:41:47.199 --> 01:41:53.760
<v Speaker 2>African American gentlemen into freemasonry under the auspices of Prince

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01:41:53.800 --> 01:41:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Henry Hall and the admission of women to the Order

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01:41:58.039 --> 01:42:02.560
<v Speaker 2>of the Eastern Star, this was more of a financial

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01:42:02.640 --> 01:42:05.760
<v Speaker 2>move and an attempt to change with the times while

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01:42:05.800 --> 01:42:10.239
<v Speaker 2>still holding true to the original ideals of the Four

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01:42:10.319 --> 01:42:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Letter Charter.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's what I mean by that.

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<v Speaker 2>When the civil rights got passed, Okay, now black men

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01:42:17.840 --> 01:42:20.760
<v Speaker 2>were completely equal in all way, shapes and forms to

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01:42:20.880 --> 01:42:21.359
<v Speaker 2>white men.

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<v Speaker 3>There was nothing that they could say that they could

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01:42:23.520 --> 01:42:24.359
<v Speaker 3>hold over them.

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<v Speaker 2>And free masonry at this time was also kind of

1947
01:42:28.199 --> 01:42:30.840
<v Speaker 2>going through a bit of a dip, and they have

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01:42:30.960 --> 01:42:33.920
<v Speaker 2>been for quite some time, and still to this day

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01:42:33.960 --> 01:42:37.279
<v Speaker 2>they are struggling to maintain membership in a lot of

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01:42:37.279 --> 01:42:39.119
<v Speaker 2>the lodges. There are some lodges that are doing well.

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01:42:39.800 --> 01:42:42.399
<v Speaker 2>More often than not you have lodges closing down than

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01:42:42.439 --> 01:42:43.960
<v Speaker 2>you have new lodges starting up.

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01:42:44.039 --> 01:42:47.880
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, when this happened, they realized.

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<v Speaker 2>That hey, wait a minute, y'all, we could start a

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01:42:51.039 --> 01:42:55.880
<v Speaker 2>lodge specifically for them and keep the segregation intact. Okay,

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01:42:56.279 --> 01:42:59.359
<v Speaker 2>and we'll give them some of the ceremonial things and

1957
01:42:59.359 --> 01:43:03.279
<v Speaker 2>the rituals, but we're still gonna collect their dues from them, right.

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01:43:03.560 --> 01:43:05.640
<v Speaker 2>And so now we have a way to reach a

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01:43:05.720 --> 01:43:09.239
<v Speaker 2>wider audience, collect more dues, make more.

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01:43:09.079 --> 01:43:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Money, and we can make them feel like they're equal.

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<v Speaker 2>But in reality, we're gonna keep our secrets for ourselves, right.

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01:43:16.319 --> 01:43:18.239
<v Speaker 2>And I know there's gonna be a lot of Masonic

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01:43:18.279 --> 01:43:19.840
<v Speaker 2>people that will listen to that and say that that

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<v Speaker 2>is preposterous and incorrect and all the things. Listen, I'm

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01:43:22.600 --> 01:43:24.760
<v Speaker 2>not a Mason. I'm not speaking as if that's a fact.

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<v Speaker 2>That is what I have been led to believe from

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01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:31.000
<v Speaker 2>my research. Same thing with the Order of the Eastern Star. Now, okay,

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01:43:31.119 --> 01:43:33.720
<v Speaker 2>all of these women are bitching that their husbands would

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01:43:33.800 --> 01:43:36.520
<v Speaker 2>rather be at the lodge drinking and hanging out with

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01:43:36.560 --> 01:43:39.720
<v Speaker 2>their boys rather than being hope with them with the kids.

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01:43:39.960 --> 01:43:41.800
<v Speaker 2>So they had to find a way to appease the women.

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01:43:42.199 --> 01:43:44.159
<v Speaker 2>But they don't just want to make a women's club.

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01:43:44.399 --> 01:43:47.039
<v Speaker 2>They want to make a women's club that collects dues

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01:43:47.600 --> 01:43:50.880
<v Speaker 2>to bring more money into the overall free masonry and

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01:43:50.920 --> 01:43:53.000
<v Speaker 2>all these things. So they come up with the Order

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01:43:53.039 --> 01:43:55.159
<v Speaker 2>of the Eastern Star and they give them some enlightenment.

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01:43:55.159 --> 01:43:57.600
<v Speaker 2>They give them some stories from different books and texts

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01:43:57.640 --> 01:43:59.239
<v Speaker 2>that makes them feel like they're super in the know.

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01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:02.159
<v Speaker 3>Reality they have will never get.

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<v Speaker 2>The same level of information that a four letter charter

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01:44:05.920 --> 01:44:06.399
<v Speaker 2>would get.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I get it. I'm just saying that, you know,

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01:44:10.239 --> 01:44:13.880
<v Speaker 1>it was freemasonry in general in general was created in

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01:44:13.960 --> 01:44:17.880
<v Speaker 1>a time where the traditions of the time where the

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01:44:17.920 --> 01:44:20.079
<v Speaker 1>men were it was, you know, it was kind of

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01:44:20.079 --> 01:44:23.479
<v Speaker 1>a the men ruled the world and you know, kind

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01:44:23.520 --> 01:44:26.039
<v Speaker 1>of looked at everybody else. Well, the white men ruled

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01:44:26.079 --> 01:44:27.920
<v Speaker 1>the world and kind of looked at everybody else as

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01:44:27.960 --> 01:44:30.720
<v Speaker 1>beneath them as far as the time of the tradition goes.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying is is that these people are probably

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01:44:33.039 --> 01:44:35.439
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more on the money if you really

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01:44:35.479 --> 01:44:37.880
<v Speaker 1>look at it just for its symbolism's sake, that you

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01:44:37.960 --> 01:44:40.760
<v Speaker 1>would want to include both sexes and maybe even all

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01:44:40.800 --> 01:44:43.159
<v Speaker 1>the different races. Why not, Because if it's supposed to

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01:44:43.199 --> 01:44:46.000
<v Speaker 1>be a dualistic kind of polarity kind of thing, then

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01:44:46.039 --> 01:44:49.359
<v Speaker 1>you would want that dualistic polarity kind of thing represented

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01:44:49.800 --> 01:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>by not only the symbols and rituals, but also amongst

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01:44:53.560 --> 01:44:53.960
<v Speaker 1>your people.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, oh, agreed.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Freemasonry of today is not the Freemasonry of

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01:44:58.960 --> 01:45:01.920
<v Speaker 2>the nineteen sixties. No, Like on some real levels, yeah,

2002
01:45:01.920 --> 01:45:04.239
<v Speaker 2>they might be reading morals and dogma the same book,

2003
01:45:04.720 --> 01:45:06.720
<v Speaker 2>but the way they operate and the way that they're

2004
01:45:07.039 --> 01:45:09.560
<v Speaker 2>they are begging people to come join them these days

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01:45:09.600 --> 01:45:12.520
<v Speaker 2>because their numbers are dwindling to solo. So absolutely they're

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01:45:12.520 --> 01:45:14.880
<v Speaker 2>accepting women as full members and they the whole Prince

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01:45:14.920 --> 01:45:15.399
<v Speaker 2>Henry Hall.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a tradition. We're involved with that. But you have

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01:45:19.159 --> 01:45:19.359
<v Speaker 3>a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>There was an old rule that basically you had black

2011
01:45:22.199 --> 01:45:25.199
<v Speaker 2>lodges and white lodges and you did not blend the two.

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<v Speaker 3>You just did not.

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<v Speaker 2>These days there is more blending happening nationwide and arguably

2014
01:45:30.439 --> 01:45:33.359
<v Speaker 2>worldwide than ever before. So yeah, it's it's a different

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01:45:33.359 --> 01:45:34.479
<v Speaker 2>world that we're currently living in.

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<v Speaker 1>For it's also there's no money in enlightenment, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Like, there's no money in brotherhood anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And you think about it, dude, Like I went to

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01:45:44.359 --> 01:45:46.680
<v Speaker 1>the pool yesterday. So I live in an apartment complex.

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01:45:46.720 --> 01:45:48.760
<v Speaker 1>We have a like a community pool, that we go to.

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01:45:48.800 --> 01:45:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Me and my son, we go just about every day,

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01:45:51.199 --> 01:45:56.319
<v Speaker 1>and there were people there, Dude, Nobody said hi to anybody.

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01:45:56.359 --> 01:45:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Nobody said hey, how you doing or anything. Everybody just

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01:45:58.720 --> 01:46:00.720
<v Speaker 1>wants to kind of keep to themselves. So the idea

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01:46:00.800 --> 01:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>of brotherhood or sisterhood or you know, just community amongst

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01:46:05.159 --> 01:46:09.520
<v Speaker 1>your peers, it's dwindling so much so that people don't

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01:46:09.560 --> 01:46:12.239
<v Speaker 1>even you know, say hi so much anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you how many times I open a

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01:46:14.119 --> 01:46:17.079
<v Speaker 1>door for somebody, not expecting a thank you, but think

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01:46:17.079 --> 01:46:19.600
<v Speaker 1>you would be nice. Right I open a door, Dude,

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01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:22.000
<v Speaker 1>they don't even look back at me, like, don't even

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01:46:22.039 --> 01:46:25.880
<v Speaker 1>acknowledge that I just opened it. I'm like, what where

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01:46:25.960 --> 01:46:27.640
<v Speaker 1>did where did all this go?

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01:46:27.920 --> 01:46:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Like?

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01:46:28.079 --> 01:46:28.960
<v Speaker 1>How did they get here?

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01:46:29.600 --> 01:46:31.560
<v Speaker 2>They used to be a thing in the South, right

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01:46:31.720 --> 01:46:35.560
<v Speaker 2>like this, the Southern hospitality that used to really be

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01:46:35.640 --> 01:46:38.159
<v Speaker 2>a thing. Bro, it's only a thing in small pockets

2040
01:46:38.199 --> 01:46:41.199
<v Speaker 2>anywhere anymore. I mean, you're living in it right outside

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01:46:41.199 --> 01:46:43.640
<v Speaker 2>of a big city. It's gonna have big city vibes

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01:46:43.720 --> 01:46:45.880
<v Speaker 2>to it. Yeah, there's still parts of Texas where it's

2043
01:46:45.920 --> 01:46:48.359
<v Speaker 2>absolutely that small town vibe and people still have that

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01:46:48.399 --> 01:46:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Southern hospitality. But to your point, due, that's that's also

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01:46:51.640 --> 01:46:54.119
<v Speaker 2>a generational thing. I think we are one or two

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01:46:54.199 --> 01:46:56.960
<v Speaker 2>generations from that being absolutely a thing of the past.

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01:46:57.520 --> 01:47:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the way that people represent themselves online

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01:47:00.640 --> 01:47:04.119
<v Speaker 1>and in person are two totally entirely different people, you know.

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01:47:05.159 --> 01:47:09.079
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, so we talked a lot about what freemasonry

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01:47:09.199 --> 01:47:09.600
<v Speaker 2>is not.

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01:47:10.159 --> 01:47:12.600
<v Speaker 3>Now let's learn what freemasonry is.

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01:47:12.920 --> 01:47:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Freemasonry is an enlightened freedom in quotes. In the realm

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01:47:16.560 --> 01:47:19.760
<v Speaker 1>of music, this concept embodies the idea that each instrument,

2054
01:47:19.760 --> 01:47:23.399
<v Speaker 1>while capable of independent expression, chooses to harmonize and balance

2055
01:47:23.399 --> 01:47:26.720
<v Speaker 1>its contribution for the collective beauty of the composition. This

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01:47:26.840 --> 01:47:30.479
<v Speaker 1>voluntary discipline ensures that no single part overwhelms the others,

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01:47:30.640 --> 01:47:35.319
<v Speaker 1>creating a cohesive and pleasing musical experience. Similarly, in freemasonry,

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01:47:35.399 --> 01:47:40.199
<v Speaker 1>this principle reflects the fraternity's ethos, where individual members exercise

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01:47:40.960 --> 01:47:44.760
<v Speaker 1>exercise self restraint and align their actions with the broader

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01:47:44.800 --> 01:47:47.239
<v Speaker 1>goals of the lodge. By doing so, they foster a

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01:47:47.279 --> 01:47:51.560
<v Speaker 1>harmonious and cooperative environment. This enlightenment approach highlights the values

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01:47:51.600 --> 01:47:55.760
<v Speaker 1>of balancing personal freedom with collective responsibility, whether in the

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01:47:55.800 --> 01:47:59.600
<v Speaker 1>intricate interplay of the musical ensemble or the collaborative spirit

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01:47:59.640 --> 01:48:03.560
<v Speaker 1>of a sonic lodge. Freemasonry is and quotes the harmony

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01:48:03.560 --> 01:48:06.439
<v Speaker 1>of the stars in the heavens, the yearning for brotherhood,

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01:48:06.479 --> 01:48:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and the heart of man. Indeed, in music, this harmony

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01:48:10.560 --> 01:48:14.199
<v Speaker 1>represents the perfect alignment and interplay of diverse elements, creating

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01:48:14.239 --> 01:48:19.279
<v Speaker 1>a celestial symphony that transcends individual contributions. Each note and instrument,

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01:48:19.359 --> 01:48:23.560
<v Speaker 1>though distinct to comes together to form a unified, harmonious whole,

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01:48:23.800 --> 01:48:27.520
<v Speaker 1>much like the stars forming constellations in the night. In freemasonry,

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01:48:27.560 --> 01:48:30.960
<v Speaker 1>this concept reflects the fraternity's core mission of fostering brotherhood

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01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:34.119
<v Speaker 1>and unity among its members. The quote unquote yearning for

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01:48:34.199 --> 01:48:38.920
<v Speaker 1>brotherhood speaks to the deep intrinsic human desire for connection, solidarity,

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01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:43.159
<v Speaker 1>and solidarity and mutual support. Just as the stars are

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01:48:43.279 --> 01:48:46.159
<v Speaker 1>bound by the laws of the cosmos, Freemasons are guided

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01:48:46.159 --> 01:48:49.840
<v Speaker 1>by universal principles that promote peace, understanding, and a shared

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01:48:49.880 --> 01:48:50.640
<v Speaker 1>sense of purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, so there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, with that being said, we get to the secret

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01:48:56.840 --> 01:49:01.600
<v Speaker 2>laws of music, law, vibration, law of resonance, law of rhythm,

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01:49:01.760 --> 01:49:05.479
<v Speaker 2>law of harmony. These promatic Now when we're getting into

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<v Speaker 2>the realm of what the Masons believe as far as

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01:49:07.800 --> 01:49:11.159
<v Speaker 2>working tools within their craft her meticism.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby, let's go so the secret laws of music. As

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<v Speaker 1>we have seen, mastering the power of sound can be

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most potent working tools at the hands

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01:49:19.119 --> 01:49:22.560
<v Speaker 1>of the freemason to bring about transformation during ritual. Here

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01:49:22.600 --> 01:49:26.079
<v Speaker 1>are four laws that deserve contemplation for the serious brother

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01:49:26.199 --> 01:49:30.279
<v Speaker 1>and student of the mysteries. The law of vibration embodies

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01:49:30.319 --> 01:49:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the truth that everything in the universe moves and vibrates

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01:49:33.239 --> 01:49:37.720
<v Speaker 1>at one frequency or another, a fact which modern science endorses.

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<v Speaker 1>Behind the magical work of the ritual lies the mystery

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01:49:40.520 --> 01:49:44.279
<v Speaker 1>of vibration. The freemason uses this law to govern uniformity

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01:49:44.279 --> 01:49:47.840
<v Speaker 1>in work, to dispel disorder, and to produce heightened awareness.

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01:49:48.239 --> 01:49:52.039
<v Speaker 1>Law vibration, then you have the law of resonance. It says,

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<v Speaker 1>physics explains how sound affects matter. In detail, we know

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<v Speaker 1>that everything has a resonant frequency at which it most

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01:50:01.239 --> 01:50:05.279
<v Speaker 1>naturally resonates. When we find that resonant frequency in play

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01:50:06.039 --> 01:50:08.560
<v Speaker 1>and play a sound that matches it, it actually feeds

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01:50:08.680 --> 01:50:12.279
<v Speaker 1>energy into the object. A stronger vibration causes a weaker

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01:50:12.359 --> 01:50:15.800
<v Speaker 1>vibration to vibrate at the same frequency. As the stronger vibration,

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<v Speaker 1>the proper use of musical resonance by the music by

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01:50:19.439 --> 01:50:23.279
<v Speaker 1>the Freemason, produces a powerful group vibration that attunes to

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01:50:23.319 --> 01:50:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the brethren physically, emotionally, mentally, or spiritually.

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<v Speaker 2>You hear these things right as we're reading these aloud,

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01:50:30.680 --> 01:50:33.680
<v Speaker 2>you can already hear how they are getting into the esoteric,

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01:50:33.800 --> 01:50:36.720
<v Speaker 2>into the occult, into the mystics, into all these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I mean, what is freemasonry without those things?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, according to Alford Pike, without the Kabbalah, what is freemasonry?

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<v Speaker 1>Same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Although, as we were talking about vibrations and residents,

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<v Speaker 2>before we get to the law of rhythm and harmony,

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<v Speaker 2>All right, our homeboyd Matt Rife, the great nephew of

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<v Speaker 2>war Raymond Rife, the scientists and engineered that produced and

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<v Speaker 2>first it discovered these healing frequencies. He has now found

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<v Speaker 2>a way to produce them, right, to create these speakers,

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<v Speaker 2>these coils that will send out resonant fibrations and frequencies

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<v Speaker 2>to your body to heal you.

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<v Speaker 3>He sends out this iPad with it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a Samsung rather and it's got like over four

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<v Speaker 2>thousand different sequences and frequencies on it. Let's say you're

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01:51:26.000 --> 01:51:28.439
<v Speaker 2>having stomach pains, there is a frequency for that. You're

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01:51:28.439 --> 01:51:30.640
<v Speaker 2>having a migraine, there's a frequency for that. You got

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01:51:31.359 --> 01:51:34.960
<v Speaker 2>a joint that is killing you, muscle aches, you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to recover faster after a workout, whatever the case is,

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<v Speaker 2>this has the solution within it. It sounds crazy, I

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<v Speaker 2>know it does, but the science is sound and I

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01:51:45.560 --> 01:51:48.479
<v Speaker 2>personally know at least three people who can verify and

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01:51:48.600 --> 01:51:51.960
<v Speaker 2>validate the healing effects of this device. If you would

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<v Speaker 3>I understand that the calls are a little expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>They are on the pricier side of things as far

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01:52:05.359 --> 01:52:08.399
<v Speaker 2>as your own day to day ritual goes, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to spend that kind of money. There

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<v Speaker 1>Foul, and it's cheaper than insurance, So I just want

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01:52:20.840 --> 01:52:23.680
<v Speaker 1>to throw that out there. Also, just as far as

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01:52:23.760 --> 01:52:27.039
<v Speaker 1>the rife machines go, is that each frequency is a

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01:52:27.079 --> 01:52:30.079
<v Speaker 1>resonant frequency that is attuned to a healthy organ or

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01:52:30.079 --> 01:52:32.439
<v Speaker 1>a healthy whatever that is going on in your body.

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01:52:32.640 --> 01:52:35.279
<v Speaker 1>So your you know, your liver, your lungs, your heart,

2148
01:52:35.319 --> 01:52:39.279
<v Speaker 1>your brain, your skin, whatever, all has some kind of natural,

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01:52:39.399 --> 01:52:43.399
<v Speaker 1>healthy resonant frequency. And that's the idea of the rife machine,

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01:52:43.439 --> 01:52:46.840
<v Speaker 1>is that it's sending out the frequencies in hopes, not

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01:52:46.960 --> 01:52:50.479
<v Speaker 1>in hopes, it's targeting those organs or whatever on your

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01:52:50.520 --> 01:52:53.920
<v Speaker 1>body that is ailing or out of natural resonance and

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01:52:53.960 --> 01:52:57.119
<v Speaker 1>trying to attune them back to their normal, healthy resonance.

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01:52:57.159 --> 01:52:59.279
<v Speaker 1>That's the idea of the rife machine in general, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not gonna take a one time fix, right Like,

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01:53:03.279 --> 01:53:05.880
<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna Let's say that you're somebody who suffers

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01:53:05.880 --> 01:53:08.199
<v Speaker 2>from a high stomach acid or something like that. So

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01:53:08.279 --> 01:53:12.720
<v Speaker 2>you play the frequency for this, okay, cool. The first day,

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01:53:12.760 --> 01:53:14.680
<v Speaker 2>you may not feel the effects. It might take you

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01:53:14.920 --> 01:53:17.359
<v Speaker 2>using it every day for a week before you actually

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01:53:17.399 --> 01:53:19.159
<v Speaker 2>start to feel the effects. It takes a while for

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01:53:19.279 --> 01:53:23.199
<v Speaker 2>vibrations to actually start working. Onto your body on that level.

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01:53:23.680 --> 01:53:26.760
<v Speaker 2>But again, I personally know three people, not myself, like

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01:53:26.880 --> 01:53:31.119
<v Speaker 2>three people who are not interested in new age medicine

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<v Speaker 2>and holistic approaches, and that that wu woo shit, as

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01:53:34.720 --> 01:53:37.680
<v Speaker 2>someone would say, who will swear by these devices.

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01:53:37.800 --> 01:53:40.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not woo woo at all. It's like you

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01:53:40.239 --> 01:53:44.079
<v Speaker 1>can actually feel it, so it's not that crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>You.

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<v Speaker 1>If Jacob can say that, that should be like the

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01:53:48.159 --> 01:53:49.800
<v Speaker 1>check mark, Because Jacob I.

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01:53:50.279 --> 01:53:52.720
<v Speaker 3>Can say that. Dude, Me and my dad we shot

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01:53:52.760 --> 01:53:53.600
<v Speaker 3>a commercial together.

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<v Speaker 2>He has physically felt the effects of this machine and

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01:53:57.039 --> 01:53:58.479
<v Speaker 2>he uses it twice.

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01:53:58.199 --> 01:54:01.319
<v Speaker 3>A day every day. Like religious, Oh, my parents too.

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<v Speaker 1>I gave my rife machine to my parents and you know,

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01:54:03.720 --> 01:54:05.800
<v Speaker 1>they got back pain. They're a little bit older, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and they say, yeah, I mean it's it just works, wonders.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy how it works in your mind. Your mind

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01:54:11.880 --> 01:54:15.079
<v Speaker 1>has a hard time wrapping itself around how it's working

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01:54:15.159 --> 01:54:18.479
<v Speaker 1>because you can't see it happening. But I also want

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<v Speaker 1>to say too that you know you can't see in

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01:54:21.079 --> 01:54:23.279
<v Speaker 1>a leave happening, you know, but whenever you take it,

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<v Speaker 1>it works, you know kind of things. Except for this

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<v Speaker 1>is not sponsored sponsored by Bayar so that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, good plug there sir. Another law that they

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01:54:42.239 --> 01:54:45.800
<v Speaker 1>get into is the law of rhythm. Music rises in crescendo,

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01:54:46.000 --> 01:54:49.119
<v Speaker 1>it fades, it moves quickly, then slows, it fades into

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01:54:49.640 --> 01:54:52.760
<v Speaker 1>de crescendo. Behind all of this is a steady and

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01:54:52.800 --> 01:54:55.960
<v Speaker 1>constant rhythm. Everything in the universe vibrates and moves at

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01:54:56.000 --> 01:54:59.880
<v Speaker 1>certain rhythms, like a heartbeat. These rhythms establish seasons, cycles,

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01:55:00.039 --> 01:55:03.640
<v Speaker 1>stages of development, and patterns. The Freemason uses this law

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01:55:03.680 --> 01:55:07.239
<v Speaker 1>to produce effective ritual work. As the nature of the

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01:55:07.319 --> 01:55:11.680
<v Speaker 1>rhythm is established. Through ritual music, the Brethren trains themselves

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<v Speaker 1>to work together with with united thought, united action, and

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01:55:16.399 --> 01:55:21.359
<v Speaker 1>united ideals and objectives. Stay in rhythm, baby, absolutely see

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01:55:21.359 --> 01:55:23.880
<v Speaker 1>this is you know, And we've we've talked a lot

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01:55:24.039 --> 01:55:26.920
<v Speaker 1>about how you know, just over the over the years

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01:55:26.920 --> 01:55:29.159
<v Speaker 1>we've been doing this show for five years. We would

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01:55:29.199 --> 01:55:32.600
<v Speaker 1>not be looking at freemasonry like the way that we

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01:55:32.680 --> 01:55:36.319
<v Speaker 1>do in understanding the core principles and stuff like that.

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01:55:36.720 --> 01:55:40.920
<v Speaker 1>We were not looking at Freemason freemasonry the same way

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01:55:40.960 --> 01:55:43.399
<v Speaker 1>now as we did back then. Everybody likes to point

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01:55:43.439 --> 01:55:47.079
<v Speaker 1>the finger at the Freemasons or you know, maybe the

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01:55:47.119 --> 01:55:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Illuminati whatever and say that these are the guys that

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01:55:49.880 --> 01:55:53.680
<v Speaker 1>are practicing Satanic sacrifice. And maybe there are some that

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01:55:53.800 --> 01:55:56.720
<v Speaker 1>are right. Who's to say whether that it's not. But

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<v Speaker 1>if they're based and founded upon these core principles, are

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01:56:00.640 --> 01:56:03.439
<v Speaker 1>you calling on the dark Lord with these principles? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think so.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>But and we've said that even years ago, we said this,

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine percent of Masons are decent people.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they got involved with it for the networking of it,

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01:56:16.239 --> 01:56:17.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe they got involved with it because they wanted to

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01:56:17.960 --> 01:56:19.960
<v Speaker 2>make new friends, they wanted to get, you know, a

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01:56:19.960 --> 01:56:23.159
<v Speaker 2>little more enlightenment. Whatever the case is, ninety nine percent

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01:56:23.199 --> 01:56:26.800
<v Speaker 2>of them are not doing anything involving the Dark Arts, right.

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01:56:26.840 --> 01:56:29.279
<v Speaker 2>It is the very very very tippy top and a

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01:56:29.319 --> 01:56:32.960
<v Speaker 2>few of the offshoots that are doing the bad shit

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01:56:33.000 --> 01:56:35.800
<v Speaker 2>that gives the entire group a bad name. However, they

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01:56:35.800 --> 01:56:38.520
<v Speaker 2>are still a secret society, and that in and of

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01:56:38.560 --> 01:56:43.960
<v Speaker 2>itself leads people to immediately have some suspicions surrounding them.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure, yeah, well I mean it. You know, it

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01:56:47.199 --> 01:56:50.239
<v Speaker 1>maintains with the idea of initiation. You know, you're not

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01:56:50.279 --> 01:56:52.079
<v Speaker 1>just gonna get Joe blow off the street to come

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01:56:52.079 --> 01:56:54.279
<v Speaker 1>in on a thirty third degree meeting, you know what

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01:56:54.319 --> 01:56:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean. So it's probably a little something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And also I think that there are and this is

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01:56:59.359 --> 01:57:03.399
<v Speaker 1>a heavily disagree to disagreed upon idea right here. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to throw it out there because I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that probably most Freemasons believe this. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>it's right or wrong. I'm just saying if we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about perspectives here, the idea of Lucifer being the devil

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01:57:14.960 --> 01:57:18.840
<v Speaker 1>and just the antithesis or whatever to God or to Jesus,

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01:57:19.119 --> 01:57:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they look at him that way.

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01:57:21.760 --> 01:57:24.600
<v Speaker 1>They look at him for his original symbolism, which is

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01:57:24.640 --> 01:57:27.920
<v Speaker 1>the light bringer. And if you're talking about philosophy and

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01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:31.079
<v Speaker 1>wisdom and your love of wisdom and everything, you want

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01:57:31.159 --> 01:57:33.199
<v Speaker 1>to shed some light on the path that you're on,

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01:57:33.520 --> 01:57:37.760
<v Speaker 1>right like, just the symbolism behind Lucifer being the light Bringer.

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01:57:38.079 --> 01:57:41.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they're they're you know, aligning off

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<v Speaker 1>with Hell.

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<v Speaker 2>That's more gnostic and a lot, and there's no real

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<v Speaker 2>ties between the Gnostic literature and Masonic literature.

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01:57:48.399 --> 01:57:50.920
<v Speaker 3>There is a cabbalistic.

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<v Speaker 2>Take on it, don't get me wrong, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>it also depends Mason and Mason right. Like, if you

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<v Speaker 2>have Freemasons that are also openly Christian, they probably do

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01:57:58.760 --> 01:58:02.399
<v Speaker 2>see Lucifer as like the bad guy obviously, And if

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01:58:02.439 --> 01:58:05.960
<v Speaker 2>you have some Freemasons that are not really involved with

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01:58:06.000 --> 01:58:08.479
<v Speaker 2>one religion or another, they're kind of open and it

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01:58:08.600 --> 01:58:11.000
<v Speaker 2>on that front, they may be more inclined to believe

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<v Speaker 2>what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it varies personal person.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason I say that is, and it's been talked

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01:58:15.720 --> 01:58:17.520
<v Speaker 1>about a lot, and I think we've probably even mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>it before too, that Lucifer, Satan, and the devil are

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<v Speaker 1>not the same person.

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<v Speaker 3>Respectfully, I disagree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you look at it, you know Satan is

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be it just stands for adversary and Lucifer

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01:58:29.800 --> 01:58:32.640
<v Speaker 1>just stands for you know, light bearer or light bringer

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01:58:32.720 --> 01:58:35.319
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. So if you were to split them up,

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01:58:35.439 --> 01:58:37.840
<v Speaker 1>and even just in the occult nature of them, you're

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01:58:37.880 --> 01:58:41.039
<v Speaker 1>not going to be calling upon Satan for this kind

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01:58:41.119 --> 01:58:43.279
<v Speaker 1>of ritual. Whenever you're talking about the different laws of

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01:58:43.479 --> 01:58:45.920
<v Speaker 1>her meticism and the laws of universe. You know, you

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01:58:45.960 --> 01:58:48.359
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be calling upon Satan. You might call upon Lucifer

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01:58:48.520 --> 01:58:50.239
<v Speaker 1>just to shed light. I don't know.

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01:58:50.880 --> 01:58:53.039
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that same thing would be like saying

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<v Speaker 2>that Yeshiah, Messiah, and Redeemer are not the same thing, right,

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01:58:58.399 --> 01:59:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Like they're different entities, and it's like that it's not true, right,

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01:59:01.079 --> 01:59:03.760
<v Speaker 2>his name was Yeshiah, but he was the Messiah and

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01:59:03.840 --> 01:59:08.600
<v Speaker 2>he is there for the Redeemer. So like Satan means adversary,

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01:59:08.720 --> 01:59:12.039
<v Speaker 2>devil just means like the antithesis thereof, and the bad

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01:59:12.079 --> 01:59:14.680
<v Speaker 2>guy Lucifer means light bring We're talking about the same

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01:59:14.840 --> 01:59:17.760
<v Speaker 2>entity that's got different words associated to it, that has

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<v Speaker 2>different weight to it. There's people that disagree that Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>was the Messiah. There are people that agree that he

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<v Speaker 2>was the Messia. You see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, the idea of Satan, if you look into it,

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<v Speaker 1>that Satan is referred to as different individuals. So the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that Satan was able to go up in heaven

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<v Speaker 1>and have a conversation with God, it doesn't necessarily mean

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<v Speaker 1>the individual name Satan. It just means an adversary went

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<v Speaker 1>up into heaven. I believe that just from doing my

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<v Speaker 1>own research.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe, Right, yeah, I again, from what I mean, you

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01:59:50.239 --> 01:59:52.840
<v Speaker 2>have done our own research on this, and I respectfully

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<v Speaker 2>disagree with that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like whenever Jesus told Peter right after he said

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<v Speaker 2>that this is the rock of which I will build

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<v Speaker 2>my church, like two sentences later, says get behind me, Satan.

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<v Speaker 3>He wasn't calling him the devil.

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<v Speaker 2>He was saying, get behind me adversary or person who

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<v Speaker 2>was going against what I'm trying to do here.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I'm with you on that.

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<v Speaker 2>But then whenever they're talking about Job and the court,

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<v Speaker 2>they are talking about the actual fall in one patrolling

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<v Speaker 2>the earth. And that's why the whole conversation of Job

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<v Speaker 2>took places. Like the only reason Job is even worshiping

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<v Speaker 2>you is because you've blessed him.

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<v Speaker 3>Take all that.

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<v Speaker 2>Away, and I guarantee he'll fall and worship me instead.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that was that was the whole thing. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's understood that that was the one in question. It

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<v Speaker 2>was the evil one, the adversary, the devil, Satan, Lucifer,

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<v Speaker 2>that person. But to say a satan or a devil

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<v Speaker 2>is yeah, that's that term itself could be used and

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<v Speaker 2>applied in other places.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess my point is is that you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can have one book but a million different interpretations.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like Roy says, it's like, you know, you get

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<v Speaker 1>two Jews together, you're gonna get three different opinions. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that whole idea. So there are many different ways of

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<v Speaker 1>looking at one piece of literature, you know, and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>is up to their own interpretation, and hey, whatever if

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<v Speaker 1>it if it works in ritual, or it works in ritual.

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<v Speaker 1>That being said, I don't think that the majority of

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<v Speaker 1>Freemasons are in some sort of a collective even worshiping

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<v Speaker 1>the Dark Lord.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. They may not are.

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<v Speaker 2>If they are, they don't know that what the rituals

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing are pertaining to that. A lot of them

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<v Speaker 2>are doing it because that's just the tradition. That's just

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<v Speaker 2>that's just how it's been done for hundreds of years.

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<v Speaker 2>This is how you go through your initiation. I look,

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<v Speaker 2>I may think it's weird, but that's the way they

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<v Speaker 2>do it here. We're just we're doing it this way.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool, It's only the one percent at the very tippy

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<v Speaker 2>tippy top and some of the offshoots that are doing

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<v Speaker 2>way more of the dark occult practices that are actually

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<v Speaker 2>doing something in the realm of evil.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's the one percent of the one percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the one percent that are doing any of that evil shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the people in you know, in any in

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<v Speaker 1>any secret society, I would say, are you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>seeing as more of you know, enlightenment training with brotherhood

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<v Speaker 1>right right that being said, we'll get to it. The

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<v Speaker 1>law of harmony and harmonic relationships is not an arbitrary creation.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a fundamental attribute of music based on certain

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<v Speaker 1>proportional relationships among musical tones that the human ear accepts.

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<v Speaker 1>Consonant music pleasant and agreeable in contrast to dissonant music,

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02:02:16.560 --> 02:02:22.039
<v Speaker 1>which causes tension, influences the emotion expression. Thus, the conscious

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<v Speaker 1>choice of music in alignment with universal law can intentionally

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<v Speaker 1>evoke the full range of human emotion, from relaxed, calm,

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02:02:29.359 --> 02:02:33.680
<v Speaker 1>happy and joyous to tense, sad or agitated. In closing,

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<v Speaker 1>we can gain further inspiration from the wisdom of the past.

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<v Speaker 1>In ancient times, music was the testimony of the human soul.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an integral part of the life of the community.

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<v Speaker 1>Laws of harmony were followed, and only music, not noise,

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02:02:46.920 --> 02:02:50.399
<v Speaker 1>was allowed into society. As each person added his tone

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<v Speaker 1>to the building of a great his stone to the

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02:02:53.760 --> 02:02:57.680
<v Speaker 1>building of a great cathedral, everyone's quote unquote tone contributed

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<v Speaker 1>to the evolving melody of the human world. With the

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<v Speaker 1>rise of individuals individualism, many people began living for themselves alone,

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<v Speaker 1>thus producing chaos in the world. It is a freemason's

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<v Speaker 1>duty to bring order out of chaos. Ordo ab chao.

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<v Speaker 1>The laws have been discussing that we have been discussing.

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<v Speaker 1>Help us move forward into the light of the greater

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<v Speaker 1>truth that our labors thus began, or begun in order

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<v Speaker 1>may be conducted in harmony and closed in peace. May

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<v Speaker 1>we ever avoid the autocracy of a stubborn melody and

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<v Speaker 1>the anarchy of unchecked noise. Beautifully said, that was almost poetic.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, this entire article was written by a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty third degree Mason, And like they said, they talked

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<v Speaker 2>about what freemasonry is, what it is not, the secret

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<v Speaker 2>laws of music, and within that the principles of the

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<v Speaker 2>law vibration, resonance, rhythm, and harmony, and these are things that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we probably could have just had this conversation and debated

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02:03:51.600 --> 02:03:53.479
<v Speaker 2>back and forth. But at least this is what the

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<v Speaker 2>Freemasons accept as far as that goes, and they have

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<v Speaker 2>accepted these principles for a very long time. And when

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<v Speaker 2>we look at Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, right, and we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about how his musical things played in with free masonry,

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<v Speaker 2>you start to understand that there was a lot more

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<v Speaker 2>going on here than just a stage performance. Right now,

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<v Speaker 2>we can go even further with that. We talked about Mozart.

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<v Speaker 2>There's Duke Ellington, he was also a Freemason, h js

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<v Speaker 2>Bach Right, Obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>We've talked about him.

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<v Speaker 2>This article that I'm kind of glancing over here is

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<v Speaker 2>from The Square magazine dot com, the Square being a

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<v Speaker 2>Masonic magazine. Here we go within the craft music has

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<v Speaker 2>served and to be played in Masonic lodge's music composed

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<v Speaker 2>for Masonic rights and occasions, and lodge songs performed to

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<v Speaker 2>keyboard accompaniment before, after, and during meetings. But with all

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<v Speaker 2>this being said, right, we're gonna just kind of gloss

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<v Speaker 2>over this and kind of go further with this. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a few people who really have been influential in the

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<v Speaker 2>realm of music, even into our modern.

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<v Speaker 3>Day and era. Have you ever heard of John Phillips Susa.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't say that I have.

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<v Speaker 2>John Phillips Susa is seen as the father of the

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<v Speaker 2>modern day marching band. Okay, he was a marine and

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<v Speaker 2>he was head of the commander, for lack of better words,

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<v Speaker 2>of the Marine Corps band, which is still operating today.

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<v Speaker 2>They're known as the President's own because they played for

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<v Speaker 2>him so much. John Phillips Susa was, in fact a freemason.

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<v Speaker 2>This is him right now. He is an iconic figure

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<v Speaker 2>of American music, heralded for his stirring military marches, carved

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<v Speaker 2>a niche for himself as the March King. Born in

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen fifty four in Washington, DC, Susa's early life was

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<v Speaker 2>steeped in music, influenced heavily by his father, a marine

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<v Speaker 2>band traumbonist or trombone player.

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<v Speaker 1>He almost looks like Teddy Brosevelt.

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<v Speaker 2>He kinda kind of like it humb eighteen fifty four's

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<v Speaker 2>this is pre Civil War Okay, goes back. So his

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<v Speaker 2>undeniable talent blossomed as he mastered the violin under the

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<v Speaker 2>guidance of George Felix Benkirk post a brief tumultuous.

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<v Speaker 3>Stint with John esputa junior.

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<v Speaker 2>The pivotal moment came when his father enlisted him in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States Marine Band to deter his young son

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<v Speaker 2>from joining a circus band, setting the stage for a

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<v Speaker 2>remarkable career that would see Susa ascend to the directorship

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<v Speaker 2>of the Marine Corps Band. During his tenure, Susa elevated

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<v Speaker 2>the band's prestige, serving under five presidents. His creative genius

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02:06:23.239 --> 02:06:25.960
<v Speaker 2>bird the marches such as the Stars and Stripes Forever

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<v Speaker 2>which you've heard that one before, Dun Dun du du

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<v Speaker 2>du dun dun dun du and simper fidelis, the Marine

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<v Speaker 2>Corps hymn anthems that resonate with American pride to this day.

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<v Speaker 2>Susan's own band, formed post his time with the Marine Band,

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<v Speaker 2>embarked on global tours, endearing him to audiences worldwide. Later,

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<v Speaker 2>his patriotic fervor found expression in World War One service.

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<v Speaker 2>Even as he composed prolifically, Susan's legacy, encapsulated in timeless

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<v Speaker 2>marches and military service, continued to inspire, embodying the spirit

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<v Speaker 2>of American patriotism and musical excellence. So the point that

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to bring up on this is that there

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<v Speaker 2>is all there's multiple places where you can find musical

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02:07:05.359 --> 02:07:08.920
<v Speaker 2>excellence and genius that would say that they found it

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<v Speaker 2>from a masonically inspired place. So then when we look

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<v Speaker 2>back at the Magic Flute, right, this opera, now, like

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<v Speaker 2>they said, was also seen conspiratorially. It was a middle

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<v Speaker 2>finger to the Queen, It was a thumbs up to

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02:07:23.680 --> 02:07:26.359
<v Speaker 2>the king, and it was a statement that was being

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<v Speaker 2>made to those that were initiated that would understand the

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02:07:30.119 --> 02:07:32.840
<v Speaker 2>message that was being played on stage for them. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was also super entertaining and fantasy enough to where

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02:07:35.960 --> 02:07:38.199
<v Speaker 2>your average Joe blow off the street that happened to

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02:07:38.239 --> 02:07:40.520
<v Speaker 2>go to the theater that day would also leave it

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02:07:40.560 --> 02:07:43.479
<v Speaker 2>feeling like they just saw for an amazing performance.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, And it's almost the manifested feeling that you

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<v Speaker 1>get whenever you're listening to that music. Could be the

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<v Speaker 1>message that underlays all of free Masonic understanding. I would

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<v Speaker 1>say it's very very true.

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<v Speaker 2>So with that being said, we got one more video

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<v Speaker 2>to play here where a master Mason will actually speak

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02:08:03.720 --> 02:08:05.960
<v Speaker 2>about the Magic flu itself and give a little more

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02:08:06.000 --> 02:08:10.000
<v Speaker 2>insight to it to solidify the theories and the perspectives

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<v Speaker 2>that we have shared on this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's listen in this.

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<v Speaker 5>Is inside the music. I'm Brian Lawrenson. The Magic Flute

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<v Speaker 5>is not only an opera that tells the story of

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<v Speaker 5>love and trials, there's also a deeper meaning. Mozart intended

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<v Speaker 5>the work to be a dramatic representation of a person's

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<v Speaker 5>initiation into Freemasonry, and to learn more about it, I

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<v Speaker 5>went to the Masonic Center in Santa Monica spoke with

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<v Speaker 5>former Grand Master of Masons in California, Stephen Don.

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<v Speaker 7>This is known as Mozart's Masonic Opera, written in the

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<v Speaker 7>last year of his life, and he did something that

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<v Speaker 7>he knew his Masonic brothers would attend and that non

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02:08:46.279 --> 02:08:49.560
<v Speaker 7>Masons would come out of curiosity for what the Masons

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<v Speaker 7>were about. And he thinly disguised a Masonic initiation ceremony

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<v Speaker 7>in this opera. So as part of the Masonic initiation

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<v Speaker 7>ceremony at the time, the cam goes through these four

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<v Speaker 7>elemental tests earth, water, air fire to prove to the

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<v Speaker 7>brethren that they have the right balance of these four

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<v Speaker 7>and of course we see these in the second act

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<v Speaker 7>of the opera. Tomno's going through the initiatic process and

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<v Speaker 7>the first two are earth and air, and then he

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<v Speaker 7>does fire and water subsequently.

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<v Speaker 3>So this opera is called the Magic Flute.

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<v Speaker 5>I imagine there's quite a bit to unpack there.

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<v Speaker 7>Freemasonry is all about harmony. That's why geometry is the

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<v Speaker 7>central symbol of freemasonry. Because geometry measures the harmony in

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<v Speaker 7>the universe. There's a principle in theology, it's called hypostasis.

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<v Speaker 7>We can never know the divine, we can only see

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<v Speaker 7>the work of the divine. And because geometry measures the

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<v Speaker 7>harmony in the universe, geometry therefore becomes the symbol of

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<v Speaker 7>the creator of that harmony. That's the whole point of freemasonry.

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<v Speaker 7>That's really the whole point of this opera, and the

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<v Speaker 7>Magic Flute convey this sense of harmony. The flute is

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<v Speaker 7>magical because the four elements are in balance. It's made

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<v Speaker 7>from wood from the earth. It was made on a

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<v Speaker 7>rainy night when there was water and also thunder and lightning,

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<v Speaker 7>which is fire. But then most importantly, it takes someone

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<v Speaker 7>to apply the breath, somebody who has the wisdom to

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<v Speaker 7>play the music on the flute that will return harmony.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it actually it compares, you know, the way

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<v Speaker 1>that he just kind of explained that with Taoism in

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<v Speaker 1>a way as well, because the one of the main

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02:10:58.279 --> 02:11:02.000
<v Speaker 1>quotes in the the Doao says that the dow that

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<v Speaker 1>can be told is not the true Dao, basically saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>like words or explanations can't explain the very definition of

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<v Speaker 1>the doo or you know, some might say the God

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<v Speaker 1>or the source or whatever. Taoism is kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, another word for God.

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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I've looked into Taoism a good bit and it.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't really show a creator.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, no, it's not necessarily a creator. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to put it in your lens.

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<v Speaker 3>So like the universe essentially, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Could look at it that way, just like whatever makes

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<v Speaker 1>up the individual atoms of everything, you know, the everything

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02:11:43.720 --> 02:11:46.920
<v Speaker 1>that created that or whatever. But anyway, I just pulled

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<v Speaker 1>it up and it says this phrase suggests that the

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<v Speaker 1>true essence of the dow or the natural way of

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<v Speaker 1>the universe cannot be fully captured or defined by words

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<v Speaker 1>or explanations. It emphasizes the idea that personal experience and

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of the doo are more soignificant than any verbal description.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so fair.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that people like to put God in a box. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>they're saying you can.

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<v Speaker 2>So all this to say, Mozart wrote this composition with

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<v Speaker 2>this intention, specifically to convey a very Masonic message, right, and.

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<v Speaker 3>To the uninitiated.

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<v Speaker 2>If me and you, let's say that The Magic Flute

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02:12:24.119 --> 02:12:26.640
<v Speaker 2>had a playing in Houston, and for whatever reason, I

2531
02:12:26.680 --> 02:12:28.680
<v Speaker 2>was in town and we decided let's go check it out,

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02:12:29.199 --> 02:12:31.680
<v Speaker 2>we would have never known that. We would have just

2533
02:12:31.720 --> 02:12:33.520
<v Speaker 2>seen the play and thought that it was kind of crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Mozart was kind of losing You're not not losing his mind,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was.

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02:12:36.800 --> 02:12:38.399
<v Speaker 3>He had a very wild imagination.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, then those that were initiated would know what the

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02:12:44.079 --> 02:12:47.520
<v Speaker 2>deeper meaning really was. This is actually called the Masonic Opera.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. I did not know about that. That

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02:12:52.399 --> 02:12:53.439
<v Speaker 1>makes me love it even more.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, it's kind of crazy, Like I said, I just

2543
02:12:55.960 --> 02:12:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I kind of stumbled upon a book about this this

2544
02:12:58.680 --> 02:13:01.279
<v Speaker 2>morning when I was at Barnes and Noble had no idea.

2545
02:13:01.279 --> 02:13:03.039
<v Speaker 3>I was like, that's kind of an old story, isn't it.

2546
02:13:03.079 --> 02:13:04.960
<v Speaker 2>And then as I looked into him, I was like, well,

2547
02:13:05.279 --> 02:13:07.039
<v Speaker 2>I know what my topic is today.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go. Yes, yes, we find inspiration on a daily

2549
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<v Speaker 1>basis as for the topics that we will be conversing about.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's what we try to do. Look, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have an idea about a show that you would

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<v Speaker 1>like to see us shoot on or see us talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>then there are many of different ways that you can

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<v Speaker 1>reach out to us. The best way would be to

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<v Speaker 1>come over to Patreon, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, all these other

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<v Speaker 1>things are very hard. We can't keep up with them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just too many. It's a two man operation. We have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, affiliates that we work with as well that

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<v Speaker 1>help us edit and help us promote, you know, shorts

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that, but for the most part, we're

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that are reading all the messages and we're

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<v Speaker 1>the nobody else does it right. And so if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be able to do that, come over to Patreon.

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<v Speaker 1>But we do have a couple of other ways that

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<v Speaker 1>you can do that as well.

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<v Speaker 5>We do.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, if you would like to support the show and

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<v Speaker 2>support your own financial future and freedom, then the best

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<v Speaker 2>thing that you could do is get invested in something

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<v Speaker 2>be the one to reach out to you and get

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to buy a lot a bit? You

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<v Speaker 2>be the decider on that one. Listen, talk to your

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<v Speaker 2>financial advisor, talk to your CPA, your accountant, whoever you got,

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<v Speaker 2>and ask them what they think about the investment into

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<v Speaker 2>precious metals.

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<v Speaker 3>I promise you they're going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say that a portion of your retirement port folio needs

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<v Speaker 2>But another way to the port the show and let

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<v Speaker 2>us know what you think about this episode in particular,

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