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Speaker 3: Welcome back again, OTV one of four five ESPN Baton Rouge.
It is Tuesday morning. It is nine am, so you
know what that means. It is time now for our
guy Nick Underhill, New Orleans Dot Football.
Speaker 4: Nick, what is up, sir? You doing doing fantastic?
Speaker 3: I mean basically just like leading into L s U Baseball,
so that never gets to happen here for the morning show.
Speaker 4: So we talked a lot of baseball, and.
Speaker 3: Our number one told some old war stories in our
number two and now excited to talk some New Orleans
Saints with you because we just had a camp and
so I know that you know you've got a lot
of observations with the Saints, and so before we get
into the nitty gritty, maybe some of your biggest takeaways
from said camp.
Speaker 5: I don't think they're gonna have the worst quarterback in
the league.
Speaker 3: All right, let me go, boy, let's go maybe all right,
like it, that's an interview over that's it, drop it,
drop the mic.
Speaker 5: I don't know what that means. I don't know from here,
but uh, like there feels like there's a baseline level
of confidence here that that it's gonna be like above,
like like maybe like the will leave this line. So yeah,
I mean that's the starting point, you know. I like
I like how how Shuck's improving. It seems like he
does get better at you know, every practice, every time
we go out there. It seems like there's some improvement.
And the fact that they're kind of running neck and
neck right now, I like that because it makes me
believe that maybe by the end of preseason game week one,
that you know, Shuck maybe maybe starts to create a
little bit of separation if he's improving the way he is.
But look, Rattler's a young guy, and he's actually younger.
I mean, he can go away and get better too,
So we'll see how it goes from here. But I
kind of like where they're at. I think last week
when I was on your we were talking about the
secondary and I mentioned that there weren't like many plays
being made those guys made some plays out there in
mini camp that was good to see. Made me feel
a little bit better about that. I thought Justin Reid
was maybe the most I don't know, splashy as player
over the two days. You know, just kind of the
way he moves these things, crashes down in the platts,
you know, this vision based defense. I think it's gonna
be really good for him and the way he plays.
So I think that's something that set out. And then
kool Ay met a couple of players in the red
zone period, which was something that that's really good to see.
I mean, I think he's he's highly important to just
the overall health of the franchise now and into the future.
So a couple of decent, little, you know, optimistic things
to hang on to heading into the off season.
Speaker 6: Big. How's the when I look at offense, like trying
to we would always judge like how an offense is
doing in like an Ota mini camp early training camp
by kind of the rhythm like quarterbacks throwing on time,
but really like a completion percentage, you can't really judge
it based off big plays a lot touchdowns like throwing
during practice because you're not tracking yards a lot of
times in these training the defense is learning too, so
there's a lot of defensive mistakes as well that you
can take advantage of them, like the offensive play will
look better than it might have actually supposed to have been.
So ill look at like timing completion percentage. Is that
something that you tracked or noticed that I was like,
all right, these guys are getting the ball in and
out of their hands, are going through their reads quickly,
getting the check down, and also you tracking kind of
like that overall completion you know, maybe not exact percentage,
but kind of in your head like this guy's you know,
got four or five in a row and he's he's
doing it's looking smooth.
Speaker 5: Oh no, we got exact everything we got on our website.
You can go look at the quadrants. Uh yeah. I
mean Rattler throws out I think with a little bit
more rhythm. I think that's kind of a big thing,
and I think it kind of shows up just over
the middle of the field too, like in that just
in rhythm up the seems attack of the middle, seeing
things quickly. I mean Rattler's kind of dressing up that
middle area of the field and shuck kind of more
he likes to roll out a little bit and there's
not as much over the middle, and I kind of
feel like that that was where I felt like Rattler
had the big advantage, and that was kind of where
I saw improvement with Shuck though over time. Like the
in the OTAs it felt like and when he was
rolling out, I felt like it was almost always to
the left, and it just felt like there was a
lot of that, and then in mini camp there's a
little bit more quicker stuff happening over the middle. But
Rattler forty five for fifty nine over the five practices
that we saw one pick, Shuck forty four for fifty nine,
one pick over over those same practices. So I mean
this thing is basically the same. Now Shuck has a
little bit more down the field. You know, zero at
the time left him right like he's really dressing that up.
But yeah, I thought I thought Spencer was better over
the middle. Shuck didn't complete a single patch between ten
to twenty yards over the midd Rattler had three. Kind
of attacking them seems a little bit so like just
kind of the way they're going at it is a
little bit different, and that's kind of seeing like when
he's seeing it fast and getting it out like that,
that's where I think he's he's really really good, you know. Interestingly,
one other thing is just the big takeaways. Second highest
targeted guys, second highest completions. Juwan Johnson on both of those,
right behind Rashid Hied nine nine catches on eleven targets.
I think that's a little bit of a reason for
optimism too. I mean, I'm kind of beyond the on
top potential thing with him, but I do think that
him and Derek Carr didn't necessarily gel coalesce the way
you would want to see him. And I think, you know,
after Carr got hurt last year, Juwan came to life
a little bit. Maybe there's that little bit of like,
you know, if he can give you four catches forty
yards every single week, I mean, I think that would
be a huge benefit of the offense. He was kind
of the guy that stood out the most to me,
and it was it was six targets from Rattler, five
from Shock pretty even split. So like it isn't like
he was benefiting from one guy over the other. Just
like a really consistent, you know, five days of practice
out of him, And I think that's the key with
him is just kind of fine and not consistency.
Speaker 6: And Nick, let me tell you, like when you're when
you're evaluating quarterbacks in a practice situation and trying to like,
you know, who's looking better, who's looking smoother, it's not
always necessarily about completion percentage, although you definitely want it
to be high. It can be a red flag if
it's not. Yeah, what you've already talked about and discussed
about how what Spencer's doing and what Chuck is getting
to is the fastest way to the end zone is
over the middle. That is a quarterback's philosophy. That's a
that's a play callers philosophy. That's the fastest way to
get a ball into the end zone is over the middle.
So when you look, I always think quarterbacks are ahead,
at least mentally or like from a comfort level within
the offense is how they're attacking the middle of the field.
And especially what you just the intermediate intermediate linked routes.
If you have a guy that's consistently seeing it hidden
completing it, that is that's a huge it's a huge
green flag for me when I'm trying to evaluate a
quarterback is how how much he's taking advantage of that
metal And it's impossible for a young guy to do that,
So Shuck getting better at that. That's something to watch for,
is how's his completions over the middle going forward? And
I guess with that being said, you kind of answer
my question about who that number two receiver was coming.
But I guess I'll kind of flip it around. Say,
within this new offense with Kellen Moore, a big part
of throwing the ball over the middle is it could
be a tight end. How are they utilizing a tight end?
How's that position looking right now?
Speaker 5: It's the biggest thing that stood out to me throughout
this Really it kind of felt empty going into it.
And I'm not, you know, declaring anything here. I'm not
ready to say they got that position answered or anything
like that. But those guys consistently down the chart. It
was the biggest surprise to anything. Jack Stoll, he was
someone that stood out a lot. They brought him in Philly.
Six targets, six catches, kind of a hand pick guy there,
I think, more of a blocker than a receiver. But
the fact that they kind of targeted on Broadimrey, you know,
said something. He stands out as a pretty decent little
summer here. These practices Trayton Welch, who I'm guessing nobody
who's listening to this has ever heard of them. Four catches,
four targets. He looked pretty good throughout. It might might
have ailed the rookie they drafted. He got targeted a lot,
five targets, only two catches. But I mean, you know,
they're getting the ball to these guys, and that does
look like a position that that maybe has a little
bit more potential, especially when poster Morosa on the sideline.
And again, he was something that really came to life
during the second half of the season last year after
all the receivers went down, So you know, maybe there's
a little bit there, maybe there's a mix. I think
it does come back to uh Juwan. I think there's
just so much about this offense that that they need
his presence, you know, just when you're playing with a
bunch of six foot guys, like at some point you
do need someone to make a contesting and maybe it
can be him. But yeah, I mean they're definitely getting
the ball of those guys, and I felt a little
bit hurt being just a little bit of production there.
And Welch is the one guy that kind of made
me out of like everybody. If I had to pick
a dark horse right now, I think maybe he's he's
at least in the mix. You know, he stood out,
he looked good. You know, I thought Michael Jacobson was
the guy that was gonna flash a little bit, because
that's kind of what he does every summer. But but
Welch was the guy that kind of caught my eye.
And you know, it happens enough times you're like, damn,
who's that guy? And you're looking up the number, and
you know, by the end of it, like that name
is stuck in your mind. So he definitely made an
impression on me.
Speaker 3: Another position, certainly, Nick, we want to ask you about,
is the running back position. You make the move to
sign veteran Cam Akers and certainly somebody that's been in
the NFL for a long time. In the last couple
of years, he's kind of been a journey man, but
he's been somebody that's you know, been productive at times.
So what does him signing what the Saints mean for
the team, and also what's to mean for our guy
Clyde Edwards de Lair as well, like he was a
veteran running back on that team behind Ak, Like, how
do you kind of see maybe the pecking order of
the running back room now?
Speaker 5: It's interesting, man, Like I don't, I don't. They either
have a ton of guys there, they have nothing behind
Alvin and it could really go either direction. You know,
this isn't These aren't really the practices to evaluate it.
They aren't. They aren't running the ball at all, no
offensive libman on the field, no D line. Like, you
can't really see anything there. Acres didn't do anything that
really caught my eye. Looks like he moved well. I
don't know what with that, you know means you know overall,
but it did. It didn't look like a guy was
coming off like a second Achilles injury. But how far
along is he actually in that? I can't really judge
that right now. There's a lot of guys in that
mix though, Like there's Velis Jones who who I think
moves well. Marcus Yarns, the undrafted rookie, he moves well,
like Xavian Ballade Uh, he had like twelve hundred yards
I think his last season in college UDFA last year.
He moves well and kind of pops a little bit.
You know, I'm still betting on Hendre Miller. When you
go out there and you look at the you know,
all the guys out there, he just visually looks like
the best athlete on a field of athletes, and you know,
if they could figure something out with him, maybe, you know,
Clyde obviously we said what he could do. You know,
I think past protection is gonna end up being a
big part of this, Like who can block? Oh, Devin
Neil too, Like he looks pretty good too, and he
gets involved in the passing game. So you know, my
top three right now, I think or Alvin Kendre and
Devin Neil if they go to four. You know, I
don't know which one I would pick right now. And
you know, maybe maybe it is a thing where they
carry three and they have these two veterans on the
practice squad and they end up being elevations early in
the season and then they eventually signed one to the
fifty three. That might be a way to cheat the
roster a little bit. You know, those are kind of
the guys that he can keep around and play that
game with. But yeah, I mean, I think that's gonna
be a really fascinating pump addition, and I'm eager to
see how it plays out because I the only guy
I know for sure like what he is is album
and the rest of them are kind of mysteries at
this point, and there could be a lot there and
like they were flashing, it is kind of the times
you want to see. But you know, I really think
it's going to come down to like who can block,
who can who can add that element of protection, because
you know, it isn't necessarily Alvin, He's not great at that.
It's not Kendre Miller unless he learns how to be
assignment sound, which has been a massive issue for him.
And I have no idea what Devin Neil can do there,
so you know, I think I think right now, but
something like I don't know, I know what Clyde can
do in that area, So so maybe he would be
the fourth guy on my list, you know, if you
go young guys potential Xavian Valide caught more than the
other guys, but I don't know, I don't know how
to gage your right now.
Speaker 6: On the Saints line up. Game one, a preseason What
can fans expect when they're looking at I'm like, you
give you tough one here. What con fans expect when
they watch the offense? What kind of tempo has Kelimore brought?
Are we like a like a traditional huddle team, muddle huddle?
Do we work some tempo in practice? What do they
what's kind of the majority as far as a tempo,
how the offense is doing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's one of the things that I think he
does really well. And it's a it's a good mix.
You know, they like to go one word turbo at
times and then you know they'll they'll kind of not huddle,
do like the little sugar huddle thing and and kind
of bury the speeds up. Like there's super fast tempo,
there's tempo, and then there's like a mid range. Like
I think they mix that stuff up really well and
just do a lot of things to kind of keep
the defense off bound so that they don't really ever
get a feel for it. And you know, going through
and watching Philly last year, that was one of the
things that that kind of really stood out to me
that that team, you know, brilliant and then talking to
him about it and the way they put things together
and the way they design some of this stuff, like
it is kind of I think his core ethos is
having just that that tempo that you can weaponize on defenses,
and you know, I think that's the thing that that
they do well. And you know, I'm excited to kind
of see how how that stuff plays out, you know,
and just just the way it all like kinda kind
of goes together. I don't know, like just just you know,
talking to him, like there was Sean Payton and then
there was this era in between, and now there's telling
more and it kind of feels like, you know, when
you're talking to people there there's just sure answers for
things again, and that at least gives you a little
bit of confidence in the idea of what they're doing.
And you know, I think it's very well put together,
and you know, I'm I'm I'm thinking that that's the
way that that they're gonna you know, Shine this season
is you got tempo stuff, and uh yeah, I think
he just has a really good tempo package.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: What about the push push brotherly Shaw whatever you want
to call it. Are we going to see that in
the Superdome this year?
Speaker 4: With the New Owns Saints.
Speaker 5: You know, I think they should. I had no idea
how much time they put into that. They that was
something that Philly practiced twice every single day in their practice.
I watched nuth Smeyer talk at this coaching clinic and
like he just went through the whole process of like
how they install it and how much attention to detail
it demands. And I think that's the reason they're so
good at it and nobody else is is because it's
just something you have to be comfortable with, Like you're
lining up. Your stance under center is different, your center
stance is different. They it changes the mechanics of the staff,
and like they would go through it and their walk
through every single day, and then at practice when they
they you know, they got dressed and went out to
the actual field, they would practically again there and it
was just something they would just go over and over
and over. And yeah, I mean it takes an allocation
of resources and it's minutes every week, but if it's
a sure thing every you know, one yard to go, yeah,
I could see. I don't know who they would have
run it though, I mean I think that would be
kind of the interesting thing. Like I think shucked App
probably probably could. I don't know what Frattler could. You know,
obviously Taysam's right there, But you know, I don't know
what the smaller hands if in the ball security issues
we've seen throughout his career, if he's he's the right
candidate for it, I don't know. It's something though that
I think they should use. If you have an automatic play,
if you have the uh the uh you know, the
keys for how to run it, I think it would
be a shame if they didn't.
Speaker 6: All right, Nick, here's your tough question today, Nick Underhill,
New Orleans Saints expert, who's the starting pitcher today for
the LSU Tigers?
Speaker 5: I honestly could not tell you. I'm not up from
the up from the north man like college baseball wasn't
a thing. Uh and then like every time the college
World Series comes around, it's like, yamhn, this is happening
right now. I have I have not have no idea,
but uh, I don't know. Are they worth watching?
Speaker 4: Was?
Speaker 5: What's the deal?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are playing uh ten oh five. I believe
it's the first pitch because they got rained out last night. Nick,
I mean, you know, it's early morning. Probably don't have
a lot going on just yet. So like I hustle
smells you U c l A all right, all right,
I'll check it out, all right, last week, he's not
gonna check anything out.
Speaker 4: No, he's not.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 4: Last thing before we let you go? Uh, do we
have a full back? Perhaps?
Speaker 3: Maybe sort of kind of on the roster. What's it
looking like at the fullback position? The people want to know.
Speaker 5: It's over man.
Speaker 4: Nobody wants to know. Shoot, so it's over man? All right?
Speaker 5: You guys be down to like six teams. I don't know, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, we were down to last thing. I'll let
you go.
Speaker 3: I remember talking to my agent and I was a
free agent and I had two offers. But he's like, hey,
like I know, it doesn't seem like a lot, but
right now, there's only eighteen teams that carry a fullback
out of thirty two and this is at twenty thirteen.
So he's like, two offers is really like seven or
eight for any other positions. I was like, okay, when
you break it down that way. So look that was
twelve years ago, Nick, So I get it.
Speaker 4: It's okay. We had a run, Yes, it'll be bad.
Speaker 5: Man, it's not looking good.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, h man. God that hurts.
Speaker 3: Nick Underhill, New Orleans Dot Football joins us every single
Tuesday here on OTB.
Speaker 4: Nick.
Speaker 3: We appreciate the time as always and look forward to
next week.
Speaker 5: Yeah, take you eat you guys.
Speaker 4: We carry two. I know y'all did we did? We did.
I was there the way we did it.
Speaker 3: So we had me and Mike Tolber were always up
because we could play both. And there was one game
and we got We got kind of cult with it
because I get why NORV did it. It was like
special teams guys and they can save a roster spot
because like there'd be games with me and Tolbert would
just rotate tailback like if we were four minute offense
trying to close out a game. But we were playing
in Denver one year and it was just me, Tolbert,
Ryan Matthews up.
Speaker 4: Love.
Speaker 3: Ryan Matthews was, I mean, built like a Greek god.
But he went through some injuries. So he went down
Tobert got knocked out, had a concussion. And I told
this story before, like I got knocked out. But Raydon
McMichael said, I'm not playing running back today. I haven't
done it since high school, and I'm not doing it
here in the NFL. He called a time out. Right,
one of those picked, the one in the middle, played
the second half of that game because I was the
only other running back that was up, the only one
left available. And don't remember a single play from the
second half.
Speaker 6: We call that undiagnosed CT.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what, well, you know's what's wild.
I don't remember anything about it, but like I picked
up a backside corner cat in that game off like straight.
I guess muscle memory or something. Don't remember anything about it.
Speaker 6: You're trying to go front side, but I just drew
accident backside.
Speaker 4: I remember because I cut Champ Bailey and Chance.
Speaker 3: Like like, you know, I ain't coming in here to
try to corner. Yeah, Champ so soft spoken, great guy.
Speaker 4: Too big to be cutting. Hate getting cut, dude, I
don't know. I'm sorry. I know what city I'm in
right now.
Speaker 6: They didn't put me through the protocol. Protocol No, I
mean they didn't bring me to the tent. No, there
was no tent. There was no beeping down to the
sideline either. I got hit by Joe Mays right in
like the side of the head. I ran a tall sweep,
picked up like eight yards, no big deal. But Joe
hit me like right here, because I watched the.
Speaker 3: Replay and it's just like one of those he hits
you and you could just see the body go boop.
Speaker 6: That's what it was. Sack of potatoes.
Speaker 4: All right, we will step away.
Speaker 3: We'll get into Matt Flynn's favorite subject when we come back,
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Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves. Gets off the
bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in o TV. Here's where Matt
Flynn dies right back into Omahall who's gonna be on
the mound for L S U? Who's coming up for U?
Speaker 4: C L A. He breaks it all down. Now give
my headphones on.
Speaker 6: Everybody, Please wait, if you would have been doing, not
going to break it down. I'm not gonna break that down, definitely.
I am going to finally get around to telling everybody
what pissed me off out the Randalli yestra, All right,
I know, we all noticed it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does have three lefties coming up when the
game resumed.
Speaker 4: So we saw this hate that.
Speaker 6: Information, We saw the coverage, we saw it on the
social media. The first couple of LSU was in attendance
last night. Now, I don't know how many days Paul
Skins has off.
Speaker 4: He pitches every fifth day.
Speaker 6: I don't know how many days Paul Skans has off,
But I find it hard to believe he's going to
get the least show up again today. I see what
you're saying. Yeah, so we had Paul Skans.
Speaker 3: Now Paul can probably be doing whatever the hell Paul
wants to do, but probably understand what you're saying.
Speaker 6: But it's kind of one of those deals where like, yeah,
you can head over there for a night, absolutely, go
enjoy the go enjoy LSU Tigers. Man, you're a legend.
Blah blah blah. The first couple they were there in attendance.
Now they did get to go and go to rocos
of the people. I'm sure they had about what, I
don't know how many how many bodyguards?
Speaker 4: We think ye were off yesterday and then today they're
in Detroit.
Speaker 6: Yes, I got he't gonna be there. I don't think
I'd be great if he was, but we really wanted
to get that w with those with those two in attendance,
a lot of bodyguards. He did update the jell O
shot counter.
Speaker 4: He did. I saw that.
Speaker 6: That's legit. Oh and by the way, I didn't do
this one. Yesterday Weekend loser was I don't know if
it was the NCAA or who it was, but LSU
had to release a statement saying they're aware of the
nil violations of Livy Dunn's jersey at the first game.
Speaker 4: I think that's fake. Do you think so? I think so. Well,
apparently she got in trouble. Yeah, I think that was fake.
Speaker 6: I think you got got that sounds like it. I
don't know.
Speaker 4: That's all that.
Speaker 3: Myself. I mean always in forever. I I forgot to
mention this one in Weekend Winners. I see a squirrel
running by. I got to say something about the squirrel
Weekend Winter for Clyde Edward D.
Speaker 2: Lair.
Speaker 4: So hold on, Jordan, I'm gonna get there. That's it.
Speaker 3: So Clyde was somebody that when he was at LSU,
you know, different times, like he would come over the
house and hang out with the family cook dinner for him,
and you know, created a relationship not only you know,
with with me and Katie, but like with our kids
as well. And so once Clyde got drafted to the Chiefs,
it's when my son, Hudson was really picking out his
his favorite NFL team. Now Dad played for the rivals
of the Chiefs, the Chargers and the Broncos, so two
rivals of the team. But he remembers having good times
with Clyde when Clyde would come over, right, And so
he gets drafted and at the same time, the Honey
Badger was already there. And then he's like, and they
got my homes and they're winning, which helps. So Hudson
goes die hard Chiefs, I mean full on, just die
hard Chiefs.
Speaker 4: He has a sign in his room over his bets,
his kingdom. Right. His room has like a bunch of
Chiefs stuff.
Speaker 3: And red accents in it, and it's like it's chief themed, right,
And I'm like, at first, I'm like, I don't love that,
you know, that's the rival, And I was like, whatever,
I mean, he loves them.
Speaker 4: Cool.
Speaker 3: Memphis is a Panthers fan because of God knows why.
Christian McCaffrey Madden and he stuck with him. I appreciate
him sticking with him, but whatever, But chiefs okay in Clyde, Like,
I remember one time, so Hudson had got on Instagram
and he messaged Clyde like direct message Clyde, like talking
about good luck today in the game, and my man
Clyde hit him back like hoodie Paul or something I
guy or so like like that, right, and they've had
this relationship and uh, you know Clyde and I both
are part of Elite Training Academy, so just really good friends.
Speaker 4: Do you know what Clyde got Hudson for his birthday
this year?
Speaker 2: Probably something expensive?
Speaker 3: A game Warn Clyde Edwards d Layer Chiefs Jersey with
a personal message on it and a game warn Tyreek
Hill Chiefs Jersey.
Speaker 4: Whoa weekend winter Wow, Clyde Edwards.
Speaker 2: Lair, you already have it framed up.
Speaker 4: We just got him.
Speaker 3: Were like Katie's already got like the display, like she's
gonna like a display. He's gonna put like his home
roun balls and medals and all that like on it
as well.
Speaker 4: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: But he did jersey swap so I after I guess
they're from the twenty twenty seasons. So we film and
Hudson comes in and he sees Katie filming and he's
kind of like, you know, like, mom, why are you
filming or whatever? He kind of looks around and like
his eyes locked to him. He gets frozen and totally
caught him off guard. But shout out to Clyde, man,
what what our gift? Something? Dad never like if I
brought my old twenty two Chargers jersey there, he'd be like,
what is this this going Jack's room?
Speaker 4: What was doing in there?
Speaker 2: But uh man, you said it was the twenty twenty jerseys.
Speaker 4: Yea.
Speaker 7: So it has like the little like NFL one hundred
year anniversary of little Emblement.
Speaker 3: It's got like that chiefs uh in whatever anniversary.
Speaker 6: Patrick was, Yeah, I know you being in the hobby
game now even better?
Speaker 3: Well those are his and uh yeah, like Clyde a
very cool message on on the back of it so
we can win.
Speaker 6: He shut up.
Speaker 4: You know flinnn tried to bring the uh yeah, it's
got that patch right there there. You go.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Tita if you're watching us, So, uh,
here's the cloude making the Saints roster.
Speaker 4: What do you think?
Speaker 3: Hmm, You sign Cam Akers, and so I think that's
gonna be like they're going to they're going to compete
for the veteran spot. I think it's gonna be a
veteran spot behind Ak. It's gonna go to one of
those two guys, and then it's gonna be a young
guy spot, right, so you're fighting multiple guys fighting for
that Kendre Neil, and then it's going to be a
potential special teamers spot for like if you got a
fourth running back like you sign you know, some pretty
talented undrafted free agents, and so there's there's a path.
But we see this happen all the time where you
bring in a veteran at your position. It's like, all right,
old guys, go battle it out. Let's see which one wins.
That's what it feels like. Neither one of those guys
is is gonna play special teams. That's just not who
they are, you know, that's not what they've done in
their career. They're gonna be in there for a veteran
presence in the meeting rooms, probably some third down stuff.
Ak is not great at pass protection. He's just not
I mean, he's a hell of a running back, but
it's just it's probably the thing he's weakest. That so
when he's in there, it's a lot of free release
screens to him or one side checking get out.
Speaker 6: You know, when Kim gets into a game, when he
gets his pissop man, he's electric.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he brings.
Speaker 8: He's probably he's probably Achilles and both, right, I mean
that's that's both.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So he was his first one in twenty one was
the left. The one he tore in twenty twenty three
was his right. So I think they're probably battling it out.
Like Jake said, I think Devin Neil makes it. I
think he's your your rookie. I don't know if k
and Dre Miller makes this team. Because if you want
a special teams guy, a young guy to keep, you
can grab a Marcus Yarns on the practice squad. And
that's an undrafted guy. He's gonna want to play special teams.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah's you better be a core for war Daddy
yet free agent rookie at running back, Hell, you better
be one.
Speaker 4: If your third round picking running back, believe.
Speaker 2: You me, it's gonna be tough man. It's gonna, it's
a it's gonna it's a battle.
Speaker 3: They signed, right, they sign him back this year after
last year he showed them something that had them intrigued.
Speaker 6: So it's just a I mean, everybody's in a brand
new offense, So I mean, which one of those guys
is gonna fit the best and be that trustworthy guy
that you can insert in there. It's gonna give you
the best opportunity in past protection, check downs, and and
who can help out a young quarterback the best? Because
a running back so important at helping out young quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: Yep, so important without question. Man.
Speaker 3: It like I never played with a with a in
a game with a young quarterback, but certainly in the preseason.
I remember being in there with Scott Tolzencoots, you know,
guys like that, and it's like the show you're trying
to help those guys out. Uh, Brock Oswiller this guy
like I remember being in Denver being there with Brock
and he get flustered a little bit and be like, hey, Brock,
I'm not settled down, but we're good.
Speaker 4: Call to play. Let's get him to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3: Let's have no pre snap penalties because if you do,
Foxy is gonna m f you, and then Goose is
gonna m f you. Like, let's just relax, We're good,
and then Peyton's gonna mf to the sideline.
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is the best baseball show out. We got to be
honest with you, all right, Musso needs to take some notes. Man,
we're doing this. We gotta run Moose on the box.
OTB at the box all right.
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ground reporting. I've got some messages out to some people
there in Omaha. We'll see maybe who's warming up the
heaviest there for the l SHU Tigers. Maybe we get
an idea of who is going to start the game.
We'll have all that for you when we come back here.
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Speaker 1: From players to legends, Hester and Flynn breakdown LSU football
like only champions can.
Speaker 6: What's up? Everybody? Welcome back off the bench.
Speaker 4: Nobody want to.
Speaker 6: Just over twenty minutes away. A lot of chat, A
lot of rumbles in the chat right now, were they talking?
They talking anything in Evans gonna get the nod. But
nothing's official, right.
Speaker 8: No, I mean nothing has been announced.
Speaker 6: There's there's rumblings, as rumblings. Welcome back, Esther, We're killing it.
Speaker 4: We are killing it.
Speaker 2: What we do, man, profest we do man.
Speaker 3: I do actually love this game of you know, trying
to figure it out. Reach out to sources.
Speaker 6: How's it going?
Speaker 3: I kept my brother send me pictures of Case and
Evans throwing to Hernandez.
Speaker 4: That obviously means he must be going. Taylor is oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 6: I just don't like it.
Speaker 4: Taylor is red hot.
Speaker 8: Even if you win this game, I don't like Case.
Speaker 4: Evans going today.
Speaker 8: Give us your reason, yeah, because you're not gonna throw
Kate Anderson again until obviously if you make it to
the Championship series.
Speaker 4: Now you have like Anthony Jinsen can't come back, Yeah.
Speaker 8: Forty four pitches yesterday, so he could come like probably
relief effort Thursday, maybe if it came to that. I
just look at it like best case scenario, Case and
Evans goes out there, you win the game. You do
not have caseon Evans, you do not have Kate Anderson,
you don't have Anthony Jansen in a starting role, and
you potentially have to play two games if you lose
tomorrow about all three of those guys, Like, I get it,
you want to win today. This game is not a
must win like you want to win it. I would
rather hold case and Evans either tomorrow and close it out,
or if you lose this game, play them tonight and
get there again. Like I don't, don't. I don't want
to throw case in Evans today, especially getting spotted. I mean,
you're up to, you're up to you.
Speaker 6: Need six innings, right, can you?
Speaker 8: Can you find two good solid arms that can get
you three innings a piece?
Speaker 3: So I think Andrew Rydell's where I saw this on
X he said, Zach Cowan and Jay Johnson had a
combo Maverick Rizzy is throwing with a backup catcher. Jay
Newt is still stretching and is one of the only
pitchers I haven't seen throw yet, so I think we
will be seeing Newt first.
Speaker 4: It's like so funny, man, It's.
Speaker 3: Like the mind games of what goes into and all
the speculation of what goes into and then like the
tweet right above that is from Coco Riley where Cochie
Riley says Cason Evans is throwing with Luis Hernandez.
Speaker 6: Seems like a sign, right, how many? How many pictures
do you have to throw to be burned? For I
mean burn for there's multiple things you burned for a
couple of days, but I mean there's multiple times where
relievers will come in in a situation the next day
for an inn.
Speaker 4: Sure, right, for sure, Like what is that pitch?
Speaker 6: Like, let's just say case Evans does start, you know,
I guess we don't know the game point.
Speaker 3: What if he goes to in case Evans is starting,
like I if you burn him and like he is
going to go for as long as he possibly can
today we'll be about yes, like you don't use him
for an inning or two innings even today. Like depending
on who the picture was, that was going to kind
of dictate how long that picture went in the game, right,
if it was somebody that is normal reliever out of
the bullpens, like all right, let's try to get two
ings at him. If you went with caseon Evans, it
was going to be let's see how long he can go.
Jay Newton is probably the same ballpark of what the
expectation would be as well, Maverick Grizzy came in, let's
get through one inning, you know, So it depends on
who came in and how many pitches they threw and
what the player and what was going into it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're I mean.
Speaker 6: The picture, the rotation hal Jay is going to handle,
that is the that is the big debate because that's
the clearly I know. But the one thing that is
not unknown. Go put ten plus on them, right, I mean,
let's let's squash all the you know what if this?
Speaker 4: What if that?
Speaker 6: Get the bats hot and keep them hot, build that confidence.
Let's go cheer on Bear, make sure that bats stays hot.
Speaker 3: You do have to, like it's the obvious statement, but
you got to win this one to give yourself some
breathing room. So if you decide to air quotes burn
Case and Evans, is because you realize the magnitude of
this game. And if you lose this game, you got
to play another one today. You lose that one, you're
at the house, right, Yeah, you've got fish if you lose.
Speaker 8: That's the argument for casing, right, Like, if you throw
Case at Evans today and you win today, whoever wins
the game tonight has to beat you twice in two days.
You win one of those two year at the championship. So,
I mean there's there's positives and negatives. I just think
you can win this game without case, it evans.
Speaker 3: Like Flynn, regardless of who it is, when it is,
whatever situation is, go win the damn game. Dingers stay
in the wind the Ingers bracket, allow UCLA to go
take on Arkansas later and don't even worry about it.
Go score some runs. Support whoever's out there on the mound.
There's a lot of different options. There's probably gonna be
multiple guys. You win this one, though, then you'll figure
out everything at the back end of it. So it
does sound like that is what Jay Johnson is trying
to do. You gotta win this one to give yourself
the breathing room that you're looking for.
Speaker 6: How are you taking in the game?
Speaker 3: I was literally like as we're talking about it, like,
oh what am I doing?
Speaker 4: What am I doing for this thing?
Speaker 3: It's like it's gonna be on like this is such
foreign territory for us on the morning show. Like every
once in a while, like during the World Cup, we'll
get a game and we'll stay in here for a
little bit, we'll watch it n CUAA tournament will get
some like it's not a lot of times that we
get to watch our team here after this show.
Speaker 4: So I really don't even know. I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 6: I think I'm gonna go over to the office, put
it onto the office, act like I'm answering some emails
and doing the high office.
Speaker 4: I got.
Speaker 3: We've got multiple offices, big office guy.
Speaker 4: We would put our desks together, we'd have our office here. Bo.
Speaker 2: It's funny because I know Bo listening to That's.
Speaker 4: What I say.
Speaker 3: All right, we will step away for the final time,
and when we come back, we'll finish it like we
do every single day. Getting to your questions, ask the
bench inside to buy you Ford huddle right here top
the bench, Matthew Clayton Flynn. Do you think some do
Skis were it down last night?
Speaker 6: I think a lot of do sekis they probably like
that is a Tommy Maffa used to tell us, don't
try to drink every beer and baton rouge because they'll
make more. I guarantee you lsu fans try to drink
all the Yeah, they were.
Speaker 4: Trying to test their theory.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: They're probably waking up today this morning enjoying an ice cold,
refreshing do sequis. Will hear of the dog situation and
probably in the stands, probably outside of the game as well.
I mean, is there a better tailgating beer than do skis.
Speaker 4: They're a better in game beer than do morning beer.
Speaker 9: Brunch beer responsibly, double fisty, responsibly, Go for dose, Go
for dose always and forever enjoy do seqis, Go enjoy
one today, enjoy one while watching the Tigers play.
Speaker 3: Here in a couple of minutes, go for dose. Do
sekies drink responsibly?
Speaker 5: Yeah? What the first time is going down?
Speaker 4: New?
Speaker 5: Three things you.
Speaker 1: Locked in on LSU football twenty four to seven. You're
listening to off the Bench, I've gotta.
Speaker 3: Stay all right, welcome back in. In one final segment,
here ot B l s U getting ready to take
on U C.
Speaker 6: L A ten minutes. It's your spots people.
Speaker 3: Ask the bench favorite Matt Damon roll our performance?
Speaker 8: Oh man, it's got a love Jason Bourne. I like
the Bourne movies or movies.
Speaker 3: I am going to go with either The Departed or
Goodwill Honey.
Speaker 4: I like them.
Speaker 3: I also like you know what, I'm going to be
completely on the with you. I have to know thyself.
Speaker 4: Euro Trip.
Speaker 6: Yeah, euro Trip is the most underrated cameo of all.
Speaker 3: Scotty had had no clue and no clue what Matt
was doing.
Speaker 2: Mine would have to be interstellar that he was.
Speaker 7: No, he was in No, he was like the guy
that was on the I mean yeah, he was the guy.
Speaker 4: Okay, but you're thinking, yeah, I mean I do too.
But I was like thinking, certainly that that's your favorite.
Speaker 7: It's kind of a small I'm looking at his you know,
it was like, what.
Speaker 6: What was the movie he was in? Big with? Big with?
Started with Greg Canal. They were assign these twins.
Speaker 9: Oh my gosh, that was a good one.
Speaker 4: What was that called? That was funny? That was a
good one. It's a funny movie.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say the Martian after that, just because
it's like it's just.
Speaker 4: Like only him, right, so true takes it pretty love
for good Will, honey.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean classics. I was just you know, trying
to throw something like he's got a lot of range
out there, a lot of range.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, what was the one where it just
came out?
Speaker 3: Gosh, my brain just doesn't work and we're going off
the duels?
Speaker 4: I know, the duel? Yeah? Is that was that? What
it was called? Medieval? Yeah?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 4: That was okay? All right?
Speaker 3: Oh man, I like that one would you rather an
r V a boat or an ATV.
Speaker 2: Mm hm bat, I not kind of want that R
and V road trip or baby.
Speaker 4: I'd like a boat.
Speaker 3: But a boat's kind of like a pool, like it's
very enjoyable, but it comes with its you know what
I mean. You got to make sure you maintain it. Yeah,
you gotta stay on top of your stuff, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like what I've heard.
Speaker 4: I don't at the most fun a boat for sure.
Speaker 8: Yeah, just thinking what I would personally use the most
would be a good.
Speaker 6: I guess I'm gonna go with a TV because I
don't I don't think my wife wants to take an
RV trip or not. Like I don't know if I
do too. I love like having the convenience of a
toilet on a road trip. Just right there. We've rented
like a like an RV like band situation, and it's
like with the kids, it's awesome to have the bathroom
there on a road trip. I'm gonna go to a TV.
Get me to my hunting spot, adish and spot all right.
Speaker 4: Bill bo says RV way less maintenance than a boat.
That's very true, very very true.
Speaker 3: To dump your own you know what, let's go tigers.
Now is the time, literally, like right now, you're in Omaha.
Go get it done. Don't let the rain affect it.
Go and get a dub.
Speaker 4: Let's go.
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