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Speaker 1: And here we go. Welcome to the Big Podcast. Today

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is Thursday, the twenty first day of August year, ball

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Lord twenty twenty five. My name is Tom Sullivan. So

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a lot of some breaking news today. We've got the

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Appellate Court in New York has ruled in favor of

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Donald Trump regarding the five hundred plus million dollar fine

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that he was assessed in the case that Letitia James

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brought against him and the Trump organization regarding bank loans

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that they She accused them of overstating the value of

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the real estate and he got bank loans to provide

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for buying or running whatever he was using the money

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for for these real estate projects. And the case always

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was a weird one because there are no victims. There was.

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The banks made the loans. They obviously do their own

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due diligence. They don't make loans without double trip, especially

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big multimillion dollar loans, without sending their appraisal staff and

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real estate experts out to make sure that the security

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is there for making the loan. So banks made loans

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to the Trump organization and they got paid back with

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interest according to the term to the loan. The banks

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did not lose any money. They obviously again did their

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due diligence to make sure that it wasn't. They weren't

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going to rely upon just what Donald Trump told him

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the value of the property was. They were going to

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do their own value. They made the loans, they got

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a profit, they made, they got paid back with interest.

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So that whole case has always been weird. But he lost.

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He lost in a New York court and as a result,

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the original fine was three hundred and some million dollars.

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The judge really laid it on thick and that also

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accrued interest. So today it's over five hundred million dollars

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that Donald Trump and the Trump Organization owe to the

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State of New York. So long and behold. The appellate

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court took a look at it, and they disagreed with

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each other, the judges on the appellate Court, but they

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came to the conclusion about the penalty was way too excessive.

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Here is a legal reporter breaking the news today when

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the appellate court came out with their decision.

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Speaker 2: This is a huge win for President Donald Trump. A

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New York appeals court five member panels have agreed to

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throw out the nearly half a billion dollar judgment again

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the president. This was from the case brought by a

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New York Attorney General, Letitia James. Now this is a

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three hundred and twenty three page opinion. The judges remarkably

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could not reach unanimity on any one opinion, and they

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note that this was there were profound disagreements in how

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they were analyzing this, but enough of them they had

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agreed to this so that the case could move forward

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to the next stage, where they expect it will be

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appealed further. But this decision does say that the judgment

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the nearly half a billion dollars is thrown out. You'll

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remember that Trump had posted one hundred and seventy five

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million dollar bond that will be given back to him

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at some point. But that was a real significant judgment

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against the president. At the time he was facing the

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criminal charges, it was unclear if he would be able

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to raise the money. But now that is no longer

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a concern. That judgment is against him has been thrown out. Now,

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this opinion did affirm the liability in the case, which

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found him liable for fraud. But again the judges here

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were not unanimous and how they felt that this should

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play out one judge wanted a new trial, others saying

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that that's impractical because Trump is the president of the

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United States. So they are expecting there to be further

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litigation on this. But the headline here is that Trump

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is no longer liable for half a billion dollars. They

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do the judges here do expect this to be appealed.

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We've reached out to the New York Attorney General's Office,

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have not heard back. Have also reached out to Trump's

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legal team, have not heard back from them yet about

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what their next steps here will be. But it is

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likely the Attorney General's Office will appeal this, so the

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litigation will continue. But a significant decision here throwing out

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the half a billion dollar judgment that was facing the

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president and his two adult sons, So for now that

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is now off the table as this case continues to

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play out.

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Speaker 1: So this is the result of the appellate court taking

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It's been one year that they have been working on

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trying to figure out what the answer is. And like

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the reporter said that the decision about civil was not change.

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It was the penalty that was thrown out and now

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Leticia James will probably appeal this up to the top

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appellate court in New York State, and so he'll still

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be subject to judges in New York. But it's right

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it at the tippy top level of this obviously was

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a big win for the President. Ellie Hoenig, who was

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a former federal prosecutor. He hangs out mostly on the

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left side of the aisle, but this is his reaction.

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Speaker 3: I have been skeptical of the Attorney General's case for

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a long time. I'm on record saying that this is

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a huge win for Donald Trump anyway you cut it,

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and this is a stinging rebuke to the Attorney General,

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Letitia James. The finding here, it's a very long, complicated ruling,

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but the bottom line is while the finding of liability

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against Donald Trump can stand for now, at least the

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damages award, which started at three hundred and fifty million

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dollars with interest, gets up close to five hundred million dollars.

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That is thrown out. And the core reason for that ruling,

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according to the judges, is essentially that there was not

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enough of a showing here that there were actual victims,

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and just to refresh people's memories, this is the civil

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fraud lawsuit brought by the Attorney General. The core allegation

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is that Donald Trump habitually overvalued his own assets when

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he was trying to get bank loans from banks and

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other lenders. And essentially the argument that Donald Trump made

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below that has now had resonance in the appeals court

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is you're talking about very sophisticated quote unquote victims. These

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are billion dollar banks that made the loans, got repaid

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on the loans by Donald Trump with interest, and actually

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profited to the tune of millions of dollars. So it's

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not the typical type of fraud case where you have

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somebody stealing money from other people or ripping off unknowing consumers.

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So this ruling by the appeals court is monumental. It

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was also very unusual in that it took them nearly

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a year to reach this decision. The next step is

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going to be to go up to the highest or

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in the state, the Court of Appeals in New York State.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's from a kind of hangs out on the

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left side of the lawyer. Let's go to a guy

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who hangs out on the right side of the aisle,

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and that's Andy McCarthy. Here's his reaction.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think that Trump may be ultimately completely exonerated

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on this. For now, the penalty goes. There was division

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in the appeals court about the merits of the underlying

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suit what they found basically under an Eighth Amendment theory,

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that's the amendment that prohibits full and unusual punishments. There

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was such a mismatch between whatever wrong was actually established

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in the trial and the outrageous penalty that was imposed

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for it, which was I think three hundred and fifty

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five million, which with interest and other costs is already

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up to about five hundred and thirty million now because

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it's continued to accruve for a while. That was such

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a ridiculous mismatch between what the penalty was and whatever

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the wrong was that was established, that that had to go.

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The court is leaving in place some other what they

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call injunctive rulings that were made by the court. So

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some things have to be sorted out, like how much

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monitoring Trump's organization is going to be under. But he's

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out from under the most important part of the case obviously,

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and I think there could still be an appeal to

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the highest appeals court in New York, the Court of

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Appeals where they will deal with the question that seems

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to have vexed the appellate division, which is the whole

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merits of the case, and whether Leticia James, the Attorney

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General in New York State, should have been able to

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use a consumer protection statute that had never been used

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in this way to try to establish a fraud case

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based on sophisticated financial actors, where you know, this is

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not a situation that a consumer protection statute was ever

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meant to apply. She lost, But I think Trump is

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president because of law fair and I think this was

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just one It was a big part of it, but

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it was just one part of an overarching campaign in

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which Trump actually won sympathy from even people who weren't

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particularly sympathetic to him to begin with, but who saw

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this could be done to him, It could be done

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to anyone.

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Speaker 1: There's another name that should be included in this as well,

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as far as somebody who overstated everything in this case,

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and that was the judge Juan Marshon ed Mershon. He

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has a relative, I believe that was very active in

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the Democrat Party. He should have recused himself, but he

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obviously had an ax to grind on Donald Trump. He's

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the one who came up with the three hundred and

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fifty million plus interest fine. So that will be interesting

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to see when it gets to the top court. In

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New York state, the top court is an appellate court.

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The Supreme Court is actually a lower court in the

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state of New York. I know it's backwards, so this

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is probably going to go up to the top court.

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What Andy mentioned also the fact that this was lawfair

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and because of the four indictments against Donald Trump's citizen,

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he thinks, and I think a lot of people do

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think that that actually did help Donald Trump. So the

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backlash was there. The efforts by the Democrat Party to

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get Donald Trump in jail before the election not only failed,

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but it actually helped him in many people's eyes. Now,

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speaking of law fair, and speaking of Letitia James, she

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is now being investigated because of the fact that she

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has applied for mortgages a home in Virginia and a

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home in Brooklyn. And the home in Brooklyn has five

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units and it's supposed to be five bedrooms, I should say.

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And there's a big difference in the way that lenders

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make loans based upon whether a property is your principal

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residence or not. In other words, they're not going to

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give you. They'll give you the best rate for the

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home that you occupy. The reason behind that is pretty

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simple is that if you get into financial stress, you

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may skip the payment to visa, you may skip the

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payment to your car loan, but you're not going to

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skip the payment on the roof over your head. So

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that is why principal residence loans get a better rate

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because they're less risky of failure. So the otheries. If

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you have some other property, you can call it what

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you want, but it's not your principal residence. And in fact,

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Letitia James got lied on the mortgage application is the

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accusation and said that both the property in Virginia and

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the property in Brooklyn were her principal residents, and that

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the property had four bedrooms not five, because five gets

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also a different rate than a four bedroom home. It's sorry,

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it's just part of the banking risk management that they do.

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So not only is Leticia James under investigation, but a

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new one popped up yesterday, and that is one of

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the members of the Federal Open Market Committee the FED,

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who votes on interest rates and her name is Lisa Cook,

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and she said that she will not be bullied, she

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will not resign. But she got lower rates because she

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has a home in Michigan and a home in Georgia,

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and she claimed on the mortgage application that both of

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them are her principal residences. Well, that can't be one

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of them. Is one of them? Isn't? The issue is

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about lying to banks when you're asking for a loan.

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So this could easily be called law fare backlash again

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because now you've got Letitia James home in Virginia, home

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in Brooklyn, You've got the Fed governor, Lisa Cook home

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in Michigan, home in Georgia. And you've got Adam Schiff,

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the senator from California. He has a home in Maryland

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and a home in Burbank, and he's claimed on both

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of those those are his principal residences, both of them,

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and it can only be one. So lying on a

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bank loan is a Some of the people on the

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Speaker 5: It's law fair and it's probably a bad way to

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run a And I'm not saying that Trump doesn't have reason,

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because I think he thinks that the same thing was

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done to him during his Adam it's Adam scheft Leticia James,

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this person, this was four years ago. I didn't see

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a maggot tweet that says, so the Fed won't lower rates,

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but they'll get better rates for themselves, which is that's

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the maggot take on. But this is right in your wheelhouse.

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I knew it yesterday. Tell everybody about what we're talking about. Well,

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supposedly four years ago, before she was a Fed governor,

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she claimed the principal residence of some house she was

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going to rent or some got a lower mortgage rate.

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But this POULTI the FHFA. I guess you could say

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that this is part of his purview. But this is

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the third I think it was Adam shift to and Laticia.

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It's all coming from from here. And then the President

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himself tweeted or whatever it's called on social media that

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she's got to resign. But it certainly looks like for

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anybody who Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook says, she I

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don't you know, I don't know if this. She says

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she has no intention of being bullied to step down

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from her position. Following claims by a Trump administration official

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that she committed a mortgage fraud, and a statement, Cook

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said she intends to take any questions about my financial

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history seriously as a member of the Federal Reserves. So

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I'm gathering the accurate information to answer any legitimate questions

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and provide the facts. Nominated to her position by Joe

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Biden in twenty twenty two, the fight kicked offlin The

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head of the FHFA, Bill Polti, sent a letter to

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Justice Department officials asking the DOJ to criminally investigate Cook.

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He allegedis Cook claimed two different properties, as we just said,

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as her primary residence. At the same time, President trust

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Weeks apart took out President Trump posts on Trusseau yesterday

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that Cook must resign now. But you know, go back

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to the FED building being remodeled. They're looking for the

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look reason too.

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Speaker 6: There's nothing that look if she did this, this is

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a problem. You lie on federal documents. It is for

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a mortgage application. It is a crime. The question comes

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in with how you're getting this information, how you're using it.

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I went and looked at the letter that Bill Polti

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sent to Pambondi. He said, in the course of exercising

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US Federal Housing authorities under the Federal Housing Enterprises, Financial

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Safety and Soundness Act of nineteen ninety two, US Federal

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Housing has identified matters that are appropriate for referral to

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the US Department of Justice for consideration of criminal prosecution.

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Were they, I guess the question is were they looking

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through the list of people that they're trying to get

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booted out of jobs for cause and using this information

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that's collected that you at the.

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Speaker 1: So it appears that this was the way they got

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the information. And they're talking about Bill Poulty. He's the

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grand son of William Poulty who started Poulty Holmes. So

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he's a real estate guy and he is the head

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of the Federal Housing Finance Authority. And somebody sent a

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tip to him saying, hey, this FED member is claiming

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two different homes as their primary residents. And therefore, I

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mean the numbers. Somebody did the numbers the other day

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about over a thirty year mortgage you could save with

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a slightly lower interest rate that they give for primary residents,

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you could save fifty thousand dollars. So it is a

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crime and it was a tip, and I don't know

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if the tip was somebody within the FED. We don't know,

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but we I'm sure we'll find out. And speaking of criminals,

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Menendez brothers parole herring got under way today and California

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this is it's Eric Menendez. One of the boys had

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his hearing today, the other one gets his hearing tomorrow,

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and then the parole board, I presume, will take some

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time to make a decision about what to do. They

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have been in prison for thirty six years since they

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took a shotgun and killed both their mother and their father. Yeah,

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thirty six years ago. They were sentenced to life in

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prison without the possibility of parole. So what does that mean.

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I thought life in prison without the possibility of parole

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was life in prison without the possibility of parole. But

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instead here we are. And I know it's been thirty

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six years and the family is concerned about whether or

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not they will be how they will be able to

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re enter society as productive citizens. And I don't know

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about you, but there's been a lot of things that

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have changed in the last thirty six years. I mean

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they don't have I mean the phones were plugged into

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the wall with a wire when they went to prison.

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I mean it's odd. I mean, computers and laptops and

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all that did not exist back then. So how they're

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going to re enter society. It seems to me like

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they would be better off just to stay where they are.

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They have I'm sure adjusted to prison life by now,

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but I just it begs the question, why when you

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see in a courtroom a judge sent in somebody to

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life in prison without the possibility of parole, how does

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that get changed? They slaughtered their parents, shot them both

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with shotguns. I don't understand. All right, Onto the politics

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of the day. The Democrats are trying to find a

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message in trying to find some leadership, and the governor

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of California, Gavin Newsom, has noticeably changed his plan. He's

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doing social media a lot of it, and he's using

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the same sort of tactics as President Trump. He will

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be very brash, very bold, call people names, insult people,

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whatever it might be. And why Trump gets away from

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it is another whole story. But that's Donald Trump and

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he's done it for years and the more he does,

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people that support him really seem to like him even

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more so. Gavin Newsom is trying to do Donald Trump.

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And people have tried to do Trump's method and every

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single time they have failed. But it's noticeable that he

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has changed his method to where he's insulting people and

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mocking everything that Donald Trump does. So one of the

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press people from the Biden administration was asked about this,

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her name is Kendra Barkoff, about what's going on with

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Gavin Newsom.

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Speaker 7: I think we need to try everything.

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Speaker 8: It's clear that what we tried to do in the

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last election did not work. The Republicans took over both

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seats of Congress and has the White House, and so

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what Gavin Newsom is trying something different and it's clearly

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working to the extent that it's getting under the White

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House's skin. Trump is heating about it, it's getting under

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many maga Fox News commentators. You saw Steve Bannon talking

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about it, you saw Dana Perino talking about it. Clearly

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something is working because it is being talked about in

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those circles, and he's trying to do something different that's

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authentic to his voice.

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Speaker 9: It's working.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. It's not authentic to his voice.

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That's not the way Gavin Newsom is ever operated, but

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he is now and so people are talking about it

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in the political cocktail parties. But Lanny Chen, who is

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a big Republican out in California, this is his take

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on it.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think if his goal is to convince a

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primary electorate of Democrats, very well could work for him,

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because you've got a party that's completely in the wilderness,

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doesn't appear to have a vision for the future of

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the country. And really what it comes down to is

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individual leaders staking their claim and I think Governor knew

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some by engaging in this redistricting gambit puts himself in

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a very unique position. And if you look at his

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positioning in survey research in recent polls, it's clear that

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what he's doing is breaking through a Democratic primary voters.

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So from that perspective, a very savvy move by the governor.

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Speaker 1: One thing that Laney pointed out, this is probably going

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to help him in a primary contest where he's running

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against other Democrats, but will it actually work in the

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general election with the entire populace And it's not authentic,

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It just is not, which brings up an interesting article

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in The New York Times Shane Goldmacher and Jonah Smith.

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This is yesterday. They wrote the Democratic Party is hemorrhaging

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voters long before they even go to the polls. Of

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the thirty states that track voter registration by political party,

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Democrats have lost ground to Republicans in every single one

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between the twenty twenty and twenty twenty four elections, and

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often by a lot. The four year swing toward Republicans

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adds up. This is New York Times adds up to

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four and a half million voters that have gone from

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Democrat to Republican. And they're writing a deep political whole

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that could take years for the Democrats to climb out of.

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So there is literally a stampede away from the Democrat

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Party in the battleground states, the blue estates, the red estates,

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it doesn't matter. So there's a problem. And now Gavin Newsom,

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this may help him versus Democrats, but they're all basically

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looking around in a circle at their belly buttons. They're

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not getting that message out to the broad population. One

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of the biggest problems that Newsom has is that he

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is the governor of a state that is not doing well,

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and as a result, people are going to look at

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They've got the highest taxes, income taxes. They've got the

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highest gas tax. We played it yesterday before Lady called

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and said that the California gas tax just went up

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another thirty cents a gallon and they're already just under

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five dollars average gas price in California. So they don't

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have a good record of managing their state and they're

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going to try to turn this over to somebody else.

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Marcus Lamonis, who is on the board of bed Bath

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and Beyond, I know they went bankrupt and this Marcus

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in another group bought out the name and are re

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opening bed Bath and Beyond stores across the country, but

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not in California. Here is Marcus.

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Speaker 9: Planning and opening three hundred over the next twenty four months.

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We've made the decision to not open in the state

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of California when you look at the complexity, both on

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the real estate side, on the regulatory side, both on

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the product and the employee side. It's just too cost

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prohibitive to do it. And at some point some business

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needs to take a stand and remind the state of

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California that while they keep reminding us that they're the

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fourth largest economy in the world, that's going to dissipate

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over time, so we are just going to serve those

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customers with our online business.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're opening three hundred stores nationwide. Not one of

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them will be in California because of the regulatory and

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cost of doing business in California. Let's talk about some

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of the economic news that came out today. Jobless claims

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Thursday morning always come out, and they went the wrong direction.

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Jobless claims went up by a eleven thousand, up to

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two hundred thirty five thousand. That is much higher than

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had been expected. Continuing claims a million, nine hundred seventy thousand.

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That is the highest continuing claims since November of twenty

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twenty one. Purchasing managers, the purchase managers is an interesting

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It's the institute of supply managers. I know it sounds

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kind of wonky, but supply managers the people that are

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actually out there in businesses buying things, buying product, inventory,

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janitorial supplies, whatever they need for their business. A reading

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on the index of fifty is square in the middle.

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It ranges from zero to one hundred, and if it's

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above fifty, it means the purchasing managers are buying more

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things if it's below fifty, they're cutting back on their purchasing.

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So today we got the purchasing manager's index for the

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month of July and it was forty eight, below fifty.

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In fact, it was down from June was forty nine.

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July was forty eight. Anything below fifty means that the

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purchasing managers are cutting back. Existing home sales came out

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today and they were up. Kind of surprised everybody because

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it was looking for unchanged, but it was up two

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percent in the month of July. Not bad. It was

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again expectations were it was going to be unchanged, so

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that was better. And leading economic indicators, and this is

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exactly what the title says, they're looking forward. It's not

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a lagging indicator. They're looking forward. And the leading economic indicators,

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down one tenth of a percent in July, is down

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two point seven percent over the last six months. So

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the leading economic indicators are pointing toward a slowdown in

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the economy. Over getting near the end of the week,

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let's get some phone calls in here from people who

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have tapped our phone line. The phone number eight five

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five two nine five sixty six hundred eight five five

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two nine five sixty six hundred. If you can't remember it,

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you can go to my website Tom Sullivan dot com.

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There's the number. Okay, So this phone call from somebody

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who wants to break up the state of California.

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Speaker 10: Hello, some I'm Sullivans. We're all basks from from California. Well, California,

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you haven't new something needs to be worried about. It's

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about California not being broken in love because California is

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way too big. In order for the United States to exist,

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California needs to be broken up into smaller states than

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Loder for general United States to to survive. And one

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of one of my plans is to create a new state.

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And my state will ash lead buy up all Californian

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gas stations. I next them into my new state. We

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will transport our our gas to those gas stations through

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California or all roadways, and California can it cannot do

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anything about it. We will sell that GasPort for only

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ten central tacks. We will keep five SnSe attacked and

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we'll get to look a jurisdiction and five CYS attacks California.

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Even though pert should be broken up, Tila pleas.

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Speaker 1: Well He's not the first guy to come along with

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the idea of breaking up California. Who was that group

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that was out there wanting to call They wanted to

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split the state I think, in half and have the

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northern half be the state of Jefferson.

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Speaker 11: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't exactly half anyway, the state of Jefferson. They

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had a name port the whole bit. They had supporters,

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but it never went anywhere. I don't see that happening.

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But as far as buying up all the gas stations

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in California and then selling gasford what was it ten cents?

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Sounds kind of ma'm donnie to me, but what do

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I know? And then, uh, there's a call from Salty

482
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that I always look forward to.

483
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Speaker 12: Hey, Tomam, it's Salty. Oh my gosh, I hope you're

484
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doing all right, buddy. You know, every now and then

485
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I have these thoughts come and I've got to get

486
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it out, So that's why I'm calling you. And well, now, look,

487
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you know, Salty's had a bit of a past and

488
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some hard times in his life, and you know, I've

489
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had to do counseling and I'm not ashamed to say

490
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that I've gone to a counselor before. And what I've

491
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noticed with the counselor come is that date they dig deep,

492
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They go into your past. They want to know about

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your growing up and things that maybe happened I don't know,

494
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let's say a twenty years ago, or or or eight

495
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or or or seven or you know. That stuff doesn't

496
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uh you know, it doesn't go past the statue of

497
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limitations for a counselor to take a little deeper, you see.

498
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And uh, I'm just wondering why the Democrats and the

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00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:16,440
MSNBC and the cnnners and all them, their people are

500
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,079
just losing their minds over of what TASS is trying

501
00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:25,079
to do and all these data, uh you know, dumps

502
00:31:25,079 --> 00:31:28,079
were they're just dumping all kinds of information. And now

503
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that the John Solomon's from the Just the News guy,

504
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,880
he's I've seen him a lot and heard him and uh,

505
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,119
he's been saying this stuff for years, but now it's

506
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apparently it's all coming out in a real documentation way.

507
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And I'm just wondering why in the world the Democrats

508
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are losing their mind. I think then you can go

509
00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:52,559
see a counselor, because if that gut, that there Trump

510
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,279
gyrangement syndrome going on or something anything Trumps for trying

511
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to clean up the capital Uncle Art, our great country,

512
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and they're losing the dang minds time over that. And uh,

513
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I just pool, I'm just getting all fired up. I

514
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:12,559
don't understand they would, the Democrats and the Liberals, they'd

515
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,119
rather have us suffer than Trump be able to try

516
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to help fish things. And uh, I just I'm sure,

517
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I'm just so sad for these Democrats. Well they just

518
00:32:24,039 --> 00:32:28,160
relaxed a little bit and let this process happen, you see,

519
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,240
and uh, maybe we can make this country better than

520
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it is. I'm I'm all, you know, I'm all Mada

521
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,119
ma America great again. Uh, but you gotta deal with

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the past. And uh as much as they want to

523
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,480
talk about, uh that without one seven years ago or

524
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:46,480
eight years ago, they always want to talk about, you know,

525
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:50,079
when we was uh you know, having the Civil War

526
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and we're the only country that actually has had war

527
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to end slavery. But they they always talking, uh you

528
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,200
know about that kind of stuff. But they won't go

529
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back and talk about some of this trillingess had happened

530
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:08,359
in the last you know, five to ten years and two. Anyway,

531
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I just hope that they settle themselves down, because they're

532
00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:16,799
gonna blow ahead gask and like Salty's about to do.

533
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,599
All right, buddy, I better stop while I'm ahead. I

534
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:20,599
love you, I'll see you.

535
00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: I love you too. Salty. Well, I think you might

536
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be onto something because, as we've reported to you earlier

537
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:33,519
that the New York Times is even reporting that the

538
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Democrats are losing a substantial number of registered voters are

539
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,839
leaving and going to the Republicans. So you're not alone

540
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,440
in your observations. Even the New York Times can spot it.

541
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And this caller is keeping an eye on this negotiation

542
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,160
for peace with Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin.

543
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Speaker 11: I hope, I hope Trump are going to offer putinnk.

544
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,839
Speaker 1: Well, short and sweet and to the point. And I

545
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,320
don't know if anybody's offering Alaska to Russia. Remember Russia

546
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,239
had it first. We bought it from them. Seward's folly

547
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if we paid seven million or seventy millions a long

548
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,400
time ago. But so far, no, we haven't offered Alaska

549
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:29,280
to the Russians. And then there's this call from TK

550
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,920
and he has been calling this program for I don't

551
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,440
know twenty years. Let's listen to what Tk's up to.

552
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 11: Hey, Tom, old friends, this is t K and Missouri.

553
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,079
I'm still a chicken and I sure miss with you,

554
00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:54,760
but's been so hot back here yet. Let's take care

555
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,920
even setting on ice pack, that's how hot it is.

556
00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:03,960
But I'm sure miss your conversations. And you're WITHSDOM and

557
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,320
I hope you're doing well. I hope you're help staying

558
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:16,639
with yet and I'll be trying to pick you up

559
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:25,480
somewhere somehow and anyway the past two year tom By.

560
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's one of my frustrations is there's a

561
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,519
lot of people that listen to the radio show, and

562
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:42,360
TK was a loyal listener, and I don't know how

563
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,760
to reach them and tell them how to connect to

564
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,079
the podcast. And it's it's frustrated. I don't know how

565
00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:55,880
to how to I don't have his email, I don't

566
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,440
have a phone number, I don't have anything. So if

567
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,559
you know ta Hey in Missouri, you tell him how

568
00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:05,000
to reach the podcast would be much appreciated. And of

569
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:09,519
course Laurie the comment line lady, she's left me a

570
00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:12,239
handful of messages, but I've needed to sort through them

571
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,239
and I'll play you this one, which is about her

572
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,280
view on her senator in California, Adam Shiff.

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Speaker 11: Shif has always looked like a deer in the headlights.

574
00:36:23,639 --> 00:36:24,679
Speaker 10: Now finally he.

575
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:25,639
Speaker 11: Has a good reason.

576
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,679
Speaker 1: Yes he does. I'll see how serious they get about this.

577
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,079
But seriously, all these political people, the member of what's

578
00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:37,519
their name, Lisa Cook on the Federal Open Market Committee

579
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:41,519
of the BED and Adam Shiff and Latitia James, all

580
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:48,840
lying on bank loan applications about their residents' status. So

581
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,000
we'll see if they they would prosecute you. We'll see

582
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if they prosecute them.

583
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Speaker 4: All.

584
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: Right on Wall Street today, a bunch of red arrows

585
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,880
Dow down one hundred and fifty two to forty four thousand,

586
00:37:04,519 --> 00:37:09,440
seven eighty five, SMP down twenty five, nasdack down seventy two,

587
00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:13,320
the price of goal down five dollars to thirty three

588
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,519
eighty three, and oil was up just twenty cents or so,

589
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,280
up to sixty three dollars and some change for a

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barrel of oil. Thank you for coming back today. We

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will try this again tomorrow, and we'll hope to see

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you then.

