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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 2>Origin in Charge.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way the United States of America should be,

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<v Speaker 1>right because guess what if we aren't, somebody else will be.

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<v Speaker 1>And we know we are goodness, we are light. We're

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<v Speaker 1>the reason the world is free. Who's the wei, Kimosabi.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not the reason, but all of the men and

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<v Speaker 1>women who fought and died and everybody who's doing it now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you got to use that power or guess what

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<v Speaker 1>evil will fill the vacuum. So once again, President Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>He's got to get tired of winning at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>right Ryan, But he's about to take the stage with

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<v Speaker 1>its Prime Minister net Yahoo and two of the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>freedom fighters in the last fifty years. We will duck

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<v Speaker 1>in there give you a feel for what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in there. Maybe duck in and out, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>what six seven days in a row, Trump has talked

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<v Speaker 1>to the press and taking their best shots, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever their best and toughest questions may be. And and

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<v Speaker 1>you know this is obviously by design, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>so important. It's important to your life and mind and

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<v Speaker 1>our safety, in the nation's safety because with with Biden

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<v Speaker 1>every single day, right, I mean, you saw the world

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<v Speaker 1>on fire because of Biden's weakness and all the Democrats,

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<v Speaker 1>which includes you know, Hick and Looper and Bennett and

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<v Speaker 1>Polis and all of them covering up for Biden when

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<v Speaker 1>when you know, obviously he was incompetent and incapable. But

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is making it clear right now, there's somebody strong

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<v Speaker 1>and sharp and unafraid in charge.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's how you get peace. You want to avoid war.

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<v Speaker 1>Make it clear you're strong enough to win a war,

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<v Speaker 1>and that can apply politically, that can apply, you know, militarily.

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<v Speaker 1>But Trump is exuding that strength eight five to five

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<v Speaker 1>for zero five A two five five text d A

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<v Speaker 1>N five seven seven three nine. So we will duck

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<v Speaker 1>in there. Obviously, RFK and Telsea Gabbard after today's committee votes,

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<v Speaker 1>are on their way to confirmation, which is another reflection

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<v Speaker 1>of Trump's strength, right because and I've taken the position

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<v Speaker 1>both should be confirmed. President Trump won. He won as

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<v Speaker 1>a disruptor. He should get the people he wants unless

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<v Speaker 1>there's something enormously disqualifying, and there has not been with

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<v Speaker 1>any of his nominees. So he should get these nominees,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's going to. But again that's a testimony to

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<v Speaker 1>his strength.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>No Republican on either of those committees wants to cross him,

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<v Speaker 1>nor should they now. I would bet there are Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>on both committees who don't like those nominees. But the

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<v Speaker 1>strength the President Trump keeps the process moving forward. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to get to a local story. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we wait for those two to take the stage and

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<v Speaker 1>then anxious to duck in, but this one really really

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<v Speaker 1>bothers me.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is a story from the Steamboat Pilot, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think there are a lot of morals to this story.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're new to Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>Steamboatsy this amazing town up in the Mountain's great ski town.

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<v Speaker 1>The first big cases I ever had was up there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just a law clerk in that one.

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<v Speaker 1>But which is an interesting story. I'll tell it sometime,

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<v Speaker 1>but not right now. This story here's the headline, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the Post carried a version of it. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really anxious to get your take, because one of the

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<v Speaker 1>cool things for me, at least being on air all

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<v Speaker 1>these years is, you know, I've been in Colorado now, jeez,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even count fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Years, maybe forty nine years.

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<v Speaker 1>But I came from Chicago, and I grew up on

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<v Speaker 1>then with the greatest childhood you could ever imagine, whether

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<v Speaker 1>later became Barack Obama's district. But I had the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>childhood imaginable, and my dad was a cop, and my

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<v Speaker 1>and I literally cannot imagine a tougher job. But the

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<v Speaker 1>point of all of this is that I just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get exposed to a lot of wildlife, right. Hunting was

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<v Speaker 1>stockyards and things like that, but we didn't have wildlife,

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<v Speaker 1>So hunting was not part of growing up. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to cub games and socks games. It was

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing. But I got to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that aside to me, this one is crystal clear. Whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's to somebody who's grown up their entire life

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<v Speaker 1>in the wilderness with the animals and the circle of life,

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<v Speaker 1>or whether it's a guy like me who grew up

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<v Speaker 1>in the city.

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<v Speaker 2>Right is right and wrong is wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think this is as wrong as you can get.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's an example of bureaucratic laziness and

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<v Speaker 1>excuse making.

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<v Speaker 2>So listen to this.

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<v Speaker 1>After elk gets stuck on Steamboat Springs property, CPW urges.

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<v Speaker 2>Residents to let nature take it course.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, when an elk got stuck in a snowy gully

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<v Speaker 1>on a Steamboat Springs residence property Thursday, neighbors were prepared

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<v Speaker 1>to come from miles around to help, but a ranger

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<v Speaker 1>with Colorado Parks and Wildlife advised them to let nare

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<v Speaker 1>nature take its course. BS. I wish I could say

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<v Speaker 1>the full word BS. That's a lazy friggin ranger. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me go on with the story. That was not out

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<v Speaker 1>of the story quote. It's very tough to see. We're

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<v Speaker 1>all humans, said Rachel Gonzalez, the CPW Northwest Region Public

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<v Speaker 1>Information Officer. When we see an animal in a bad situation,

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<v Speaker 1>we all want to help. The reality is sometimes we

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<v Speaker 1>could be doing that animal more harm by trying to

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<v Speaker 2>B s BS not this animal. How are you gonna do?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you gonna do more harm to this animal

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<v Speaker 1>by saving it? This is lazy, bureaucratic garbage. The story

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<v Speaker 1>goes on. Millly Free, the Steamboat Springs resident who conducted

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<v Speaker 1>the rescue mission, came home to an elk walking through

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<v Speaker 1>her property and snapped a photo admiring the beauty.

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<v Speaker 2>But when Freed.

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<v Speaker 1>Walked away, the elk got startled and ran into a

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<v Speaker 2>I could tell the elk was struggling to get through.

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<v Speaker 1>The snow, but I thought the elk, they'll deal with this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure she'll be okay. According to Freed and CPW,

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<v Speaker 1>the elk seemed to be in poor health even before

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<v Speaker 1>getting stuck. I'd really like to see the evidence of

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<v Speaker 1>that I've seen the picture anyway, it goes on to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Hours later, the elk was still stuck in the gully

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<v Speaker 1>and up to its neck in snow. According to Freed,

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<v Speaker 1>Freed called CPW seeking help, but a CPW ranger incurred

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<v Speaker 1>her to leave the alkala encouraged her to leave the

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<v Speaker 1>alkalon overnight to see if it could escape the gully

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<v Speaker 1>without help. Around seven pm Thursday, Freed decided to rally

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<v Speaker 1>the troops to dig a path in the snow for

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<v Speaker 1>the elk. Early the next morning, we got a group

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<v Speaker 1>of about ten neighbors to agree to help. Everyone I

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<v Speaker 1>willing to come from five miles away so early in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning. When the neighbors arrived at Freed's property, the

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<v Speaker 1>elk was still alive, but still stuck. Then while the

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<v Speaker 1>group had breakfasts, the elk died.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe she was so weak that it was an inevitable ending,

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<v Speaker 1>said Freed. I get it, that's wildlife, but I wish

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<v Speaker 1>it had ended better, Freed boy, and I bet the

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<v Speaker 1>elk does too. Freed voice disappointment that CPW did not

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<v Speaker 1>assess the situation in person or intervene, but CPW said

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<v Speaker 1>interference can make a bad situation even worse. Again, total bureaucratic, lazy, garbage, garbage,

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<v Speaker 1>It goes on to say, from our standpoint, it's important

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that we're respecting wildlife and giving them space,

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<v Speaker 1>especially this time of year when they're already doing everything

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<v Speaker 1>they can to conserve energy and calories. Wait a second,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got an elk dying. It's stuck in the snow

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<v Speaker 1>up to its neck. It can't move.

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<v Speaker 2>It's dying. Oh, we got to give it space.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, According to Gonzales, every situation is different and there's

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<v Speaker 1>not just one way to respond to an animal in distress.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, CPW intervenes when necessary, but tends to lean

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<v Speaker 1>toward letting, letting nature take its course, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>goes on from there. Freeed added that a friend is

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<v Speaker 1>planning on processing the.

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<v Speaker 2>Elk for food. Give me a break.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got all these neighbors who want to do the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing right. God created these animals. The neighbors are

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<v Speaker 1>willing to go out there. They're just asking the state

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<v Speaker 1>for some help. Here's an animal in distress, it's dying.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the downside of saving it, but my constitutionally

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<v Speaker 1>protected opinion based upon the publicly available facts, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>bureaucratic laziness.

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<v Speaker 2>And so a magnificent.

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<v Speaker 1>Creature that should still be alive today died what must

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<v Speaker 1>have been a very painful death, and to me, that's garbage.

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<v Speaker 1>These neighbors wanted to do the right thing.

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<v Speaker 4>That happened in my hometown, and unlike you growing up

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<v Speaker 4>in an urban area, Dan, I grew up in a

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<v Speaker 4>very rural area in Grasslake, Michigan. That elk would still

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<v Speaker 4>be alive. We would have tried to call DNR Michigan

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<v Speaker 4>Department National Natural Resources. I believe there would I hope

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<v Speaker 4>there would have been a different response in that instance.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the animal is not only in danger, it's

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<v Speaker 4>being stressed, and you have to be able to start

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<v Speaker 4>some effort to save that animal. And I know it's dangerous.

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<v Speaker 4>The elk could be very agitated, and you don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to get in his path or its way. But there

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<v Speaker 4>was a way to save that elk well, and all.

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<v Speaker 1>These people rallied and he came out with their shovels

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<v Speaker 1>et centa. But they had a right calling the state,

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<v Speaker 1>They had a right to get some help from the

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<v Speaker 1>state Colorado is a state income tax. Colorado has lots

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<v Speaker 1>of taxes. I bet all those people are paying lots

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<v Speaker 1>of taxes, and they had a right to expect some

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<v Speaker 1>help from the state.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, if it's a spider in your house or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, that's one thing. Even though I'll admit that

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<v Speaker 1>I will take fighters out and throw them outside.

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<v Speaker 2>Amy hates that.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point being, this is a big, magnificent elk.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in pain, it's in distress, just a little basic humanity, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think the state failed these citizens. The

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<v Speaker 1>state failed this beautiful creature. And it's another example in

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<v Speaker 1>my constitutionally protected opinion of bureaucratic laziness.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe there are other facts that I don't know or

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<v Speaker 2>I'm missing. I'd love to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight five five for zero five eight two five five

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I think this animal should have been saved.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on the Dan Kapla Show.

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<v Speaker 4>And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Corodo Bureaucrats my humble opinion, failing this beautiful animal, failing

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<v Speaker 1>the citizens of Colorado who wanted the animals save citizens

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<v Speaker 1>who got up at dawn, traveled miles with shovels to

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<v Speaker 1>get together to save this elk stuck in her neck,

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<v Speaker 1>stuck up to her neck in deep snow overnight, and

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<v Speaker 1>the person who saw this tries to get the state involved.

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<v Speaker 1>The state doesn't come out, and then you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>the people are having breakfast, which they're entitled to do,

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<v Speaker 1>the elk dies.

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<v Speaker 2>To me.

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<v Speaker 1>Just awful, what a waste, a total bureaucratic failure. Tara

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<v Speaker 1>and Pueblo, you're on the Dan Kaplis show.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, thanks for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my pleasure, Tara.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean it is really vomnerable when people should

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<v Speaker 5>be taking some responsibility to do their job and be

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<v Speaker 5>helpful just want to brush it off and do nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>It drives you crazy, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the neighbors that they were willing to go miles

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<v Speaker 1>at dawn to save this animal, but the professionals should

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<v Speaker 1>have been out they're saving it right long before then.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for the call. Not every Texter happy with me,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>People can't always be right.

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<v Speaker 4>I think this textures unhappy with you, but I had

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<v Speaker 4>the same question as this texter. Dan if I may, says,

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<v Speaker 4>Dan been a resident hunter here in Colorado for over

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<v Speaker 4>sixty years. Yep, stuff happens. I find it interesting that

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<v Speaker 4>it is a city boy lawyer. A little shot at you.

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<v Speaker 4>You didn't spot the fact that the helpers made time

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<v Speaker 4>to have breakfast. What's up with that part though?

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<v Speaker 3>Why do they?

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<v Speaker 4>But why do they stop to have breakfast? Dig the

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<v Speaker 4>damn elk out?

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully have breadtha, Hopefully that Texter is on their way

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<v Speaker 1>to the ear doctor right now, because I specifically read

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<v Speaker 1>that part of the story. I know you, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that while they were having breakfast, the elk passed away.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the point here. Let me read this text.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan been a resident and hunter here in Colorado for

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<v Speaker 1>over sixty years. Yep, stuff happens. I find it interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that is a city boy lawyer. You didn't spot the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that the quote helpers make time to have breakfast

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<v Speaker 1>while the animal died. Hope those helpers didn't choke on

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<v Speaker 1>their eggs and vagan bacon. Again, stuff happens, in my

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<v Speaker 1>constitutionally protected opinion. Smiling and winking emoji, I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't mean to demean the wildlife officer with your words.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I did not, not personally, but no, clearly

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<v Speaker 1>if if my words weren't clear enough, And nothing's personally here,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not faulting any particular individual. What I'm saying is

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<v Speaker 1>the bureaucratic mindset Colorado Parks and Wildlife as a bureaucracy

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<v Speaker 1>should have gone out and saved this animal. And the

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<v Speaker 1>excuses what I was particularly referring to were the excuses

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<v Speaker 1>offering in this offered in this article, which to me

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<v Speaker 1>are typical bureaucratic garbage.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very tough to see. I mean, she's talking about

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<v Speaker 2>an elk, stuff buried all the way up to it

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<v Speaker 2>neck in the snow. Everybody can see it. Come on,

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<v Speaker 2>we're humans.

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<v Speaker 1>God gave us these gifts. We're supposed to be their

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<v Speaker 1>caretakers and their stewards. Yeah, we were given them to eat,

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<v Speaker 1>we were given them to do this and that, but

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<v Speaker 1>we were supposed to treat them well. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>I don't aim this at any particular individual in this story,

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<v Speaker 1>but the bureaucracy, the state of Colorado under Jared Polus.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very tough to see. We're all humans.

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<v Speaker 1>When we see an animal in a bad situation, we

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<v Speaker 1>all want to help the reality is sometimes we could

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<v Speaker 1>be doing that animal more harm by trying to help it.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me, State of Colorado, how are you doing

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<v Speaker 1>this animal in a tortuous situation more harm by just

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<v Speaker 1>digging it out.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not tough. It's not in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>And to the shot taken it these people who just

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<v Speaker 1>want to have a little breakfast first. These people are

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<v Speaker 1>all up early in the morning, They've come a long way,

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<v Speaker 1>They've all brought shovels. They're not paid by the State

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<v Speaker 1>of Colorado. They're not paid by the taxpayer. These are

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<v Speaker 1>unpaid volunteers about to go out by the way and do.

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<v Speaker 2>Some really hard work and some risk there, and some risks,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so that you gotta have fuel. You gotta

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<v Speaker 2>have fuel.

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<v Speaker 1>If the state had done its job, the folks wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>even have to be outset.

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<v Speaker 4>I just got to say to the Texter's point, I

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<v Speaker 4>do agree, as again, somebody who grew up in a

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<v Speaker 4>rural environment, I would want to have breakfast too. But

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<v Speaker 4>the elk is stuck. This is a crisis situation. You

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<v Speaker 4>dig the elk out first, and they'll go have a

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<v Speaker 4>big bonanza breakfast. A cracker barrel or.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro It's like on the plane, you got to put

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<v Speaker 1>your own face mask on first, right, and here they.

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<v Speaker 4>Need to dig him out without eating breakfast.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta have the fuel. You gotta have the fuel.

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<v Speaker 1>But Dan, the person who saw it originally obviously didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see a sign of illness or distress. It was cruel

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<v Speaker 1>to not get that elk out. If wildlife had come

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<v Speaker 1>out and determined the elk was dying, then put it

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<v Speaker 1>out of its misery. Great point, you've got you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a creation of god suffering. I think we're put on

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<v Speaker 1>this earth to relieve suffering. You've got a creation of

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<v Speaker 1>God's suffering. You've got taxpayer funded people who are supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to address this situation. It probably died from the stress. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I might have froze to death. Whatever, It was a

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<v Speaker 1>brutal death that could have been avoided. The Texter goes

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<v Speaker 1>on to say, the few times I've had to call

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<v Speaker 1>Fish and Game, they have neither not come or been

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<v Speaker 1>of little help.

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<v Speaker 2>No longer call them that.

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<v Speaker 1>From Frandy that maybe the first Frandy who has ever

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<v Speaker 2>Dan, they should have dug the elk out the night before.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, the States should have You've got this citizen

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<v Speaker 1>who starts by calling the government, right, they're the specialist

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<v Speaker 1>Parks and wildlife calls. The government figures though, get them out,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, this good Samaritan citizen

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<v Speaker 1>sees the government isn't acting, so starts calling their friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't expect them to go out in the dark

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<v Speaker 1>at night, in deep snow with shovels to try to

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<v Speaker 1>save the elk. But the professionals should have been there. Yeah, wow, Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>they should not wait on government. The spirit of America is,

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<v Speaker 1>do not wait on your government, Take charge yourself. We

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<v Speaker 1>are the government, we the people. Yeah, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>they did the right thing there to help. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they did the right thing to call the government to

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<v Speaker 1>try to get the government's help, and the government, in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, should have helped Dan. I live in Cedar

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<v Speaker 1>Edge where we have deer in our yards here around.

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<v Speaker 1>CPW will not intervene if we spot an injured deer.

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<v Speaker 1>Let nature take its course. As the mantra we here too,

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<v Speaker 1>And I say bs to that. Depending on the circumstance.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, again, that's bureaucratic laziness. It depends on the circumstance. Yeah, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've got a deer that's passing away from.

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<v Speaker 2>Some kind of this or that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying the state has to come out and

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<v Speaker 1>give it CPR. I'm not saying that at all. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you've got a deer that says duck in a

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<v Speaker 1>barbey er fence, or you've got a deer like this,

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<v Speaker 1>or an elk in this case, stuck in the snow, No,

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<v Speaker 1>we are better than that than to leave an animal

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<v Speaker 1>there to be tortured.

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<v Speaker 2>We're better than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan, If that had been a predator wolf here in Colorado,

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<v Speaker 1>they would have moved the entire amount to save it.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell. Yes, text of the year can tender right top five.

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<v Speaker 1>If that had been one of Jared Polus's beloved wolves

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<v Speaker 1>that was brought in to slaughter the livestock of our ranchers,

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<v Speaker 1>they would have Polus himself would have flown out. He

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<v Speaker 1>would have every asset possible deployed to save that wolf. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is outrageous and it's symptomatic of something even bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's cruel.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>If the State of Colorado wasn't going to do its

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<v Speaker 1>job and save this animal that was dying, this horrific

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<v Speaker 1>been easily rescued. Then put it out of its misery.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is a story. I'll get to the

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<v Speaker 1>phones and text if you just joined the sink. Not emotional,

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<v Speaker 1>it's peanut butter. This is a story out of the

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<v Speaker 1>Steamboat Pilot via the Denver Post after elk gets stuck

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<v Speaker 1>on Steamboat Springs property CPW Colorado Parks and Wildlife urges

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<v Speaker 1>residents to let nature take its course. My constitutionally protected opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>That's buer lazy bureaucratic BS. Here's the heart of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't read it as I did earlier. Is I

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<v Speaker 1>understand the story. You've got this elk that gets stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in this big field. It's a fenced, big field behind

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's house. Bury it all the way up to its

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<v Speaker 1>neck in the snow, and the elk is an obvious misery,

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<v Speaker 1>and the neighbor calls the state as it should. You

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<v Speaker 1>know the budget for that department, I looked it up

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<v Speaker 1>in the break three hundred and eleven million. You think

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<v Speaker 1>they could afford to and elk dyeing a horrible death,

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<v Speaker 1>calls the state and says, hey, you got to rescue

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<v Speaker 2>State says no, and then we get.

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<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, all this bureaucratic nonsense in those quotes

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<v Speaker 1>I read, Garriotte could be doing the animal more harm.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing the animal more harm by simply

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<v Speaker 1>digging it out rather than have it died that horrific death.

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<v Speaker 2>So this neighbor does the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>What a good person rallies friends, calls friends, people come

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<v Speaker 1>from miles away with shovels to dig the animal out

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<v Speaker 1>early morning while they're having breakfast. The poor animal passes away.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what we're talking about right now. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think like I do, the States should have stepped

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<v Speaker 1>in there. Texter Dan liable for animal cruelty. Dan a

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<v Speaker 1>friend who's a forest fighter. Forest fire fighter once told

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<v Speaker 1>me there's no such thing as a natural disaster, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it goes on for a while. They only got

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<v Speaker 1>labeled as disasters once people got involved.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Less.

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<v Speaker 1>Time I checked, every person who registered a vehicle has

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for a while life pass unless you opt out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it looks like from what I'm reading, it was

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<v Speaker 1>an extra forty one million dollars to Parks and Wildlife.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure Parks and Wildlife does a lot of good.

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<v Speaker 1>But this animal should have been saved.

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<v Speaker 7>Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>How many gullies with deep snow do you suppose they're

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<v Speaker 1>in Colorado?

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<v Speaker 2>Elk deer, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Oops like that, maybe being chased by a wolf from

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<v Speaker 1>online all the time. But you have your knickers in

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<v Speaker 1>a knot because people happen to have seen it part

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<v Speaker 1>of nature that it's a false allegation.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't wear knickers. In fact, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get into those kind of details.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a brief, Dan, I can't find any long enough.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point here being, wait a second, the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you cannot save them all doesn't mean you don't

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<v Speaker 1>save the ones you can. Here's God's creature right in

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<v Speaker 1>front of us, easily saved, dying a horrific death.

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<v Speaker 2>That the fine city is doing what they can and

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<v Speaker 2>the state won't step in. Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>If the Department of Wildlife's position is let nature take

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<v Speaker 1>its course, why do we need to employ people to

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<v Speaker 1>do stuff that will happen regardless if we employ them

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<v Speaker 1>or not.

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<v Speaker 2>What a great point and.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that the rescue crew stopped in at breakfast

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<v Speaker 1>before starting their rescue and knowing the elk had been

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<v Speaker 1>stuck for twelve to fifteen hours, is the real story.

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<v Speaker 2>It just is.

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<v Speaker 1>Respectfully disagree, my friend. These the person who assembled that

444
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<v Speaker 1>rescue crew had been trying to get the state on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm guessing had reason to believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>Who would.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, the State's going to come and save that

448
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<v Speaker 1>very savable animal. It's just out there where everybody can

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<v Speaker 1>see it. And I do think, I mean, think about

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<v Speaker 1>how hard it is for some people to shovel their driveway.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's some real physical work. But here you

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<v Speaker 1>got people going out into a deep snowfield with shovels

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<v Speaker 1>to dig out an elk. I think they have a

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<v Speaker 1>right to get some fuel first, Dan, Ryan is right,

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<v Speaker 1>dig first, dine later. The animal was suffering, which I

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<v Speaker 1>submit is why the States should have stepped in. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no way I'm going to blame these good Samaritans who

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<v Speaker 1>had come to do tough and potentially dangerous work.

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<v Speaker 4>Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with the Texter and Ryan. Even if you're hungry,

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<v Speaker 1>it was an emergency, I would have been the first

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<v Speaker 1>out to start digging while everyone else is eating. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even eat breakfast. Most often work very physically hard

464
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<v Speaker 1>at my job all day and then eat one meal

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<v Speaker 1>at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>The thought doesn't always count.

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<v Speaker 1>That from Jack, fascinating to me so many Texters critical

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<v Speaker 1>of the group out in the early morning hours that

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<v Speaker 1>was going out to do very hard work just fueling up.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, would you drive your.

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<v Speaker 1>Car out onto a rescue mission like that without making

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<v Speaker 1>sure there was fuel in the tank, especially when you

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<v Speaker 1>got professionals paid all this money, who should be out

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<v Speaker 1>there helping this animal? Which goes to our next text, Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm amazed at the randomness of CPW efforts. I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>them slingload elk herds, one animal at a time from

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<v Speaker 1>one place to another by helicopter, and helicopters cost thousands

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<v Speaker 1>per hours to operate.

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<v Speaker 2>That from Brian Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing is maybe they were having breakfast while

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<v Speaker 1>planning how to deal with the wild oaks safely for

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<v Speaker 1>the animal and the people. Tremendous point. You huddle up

483
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<v Speaker 1>before you run on off tackle football play. You're gonna

484
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<v Speaker 1>huddle up before figuring out something you don't do every day.

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<v Speaker 2>You got this.

486
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<v Speaker 1>Elk buried in its neck up to its neck and

487
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<v Speaker 1>snow out in the field in front of you.

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<v Speaker 2>How do we safely do this?

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<v Speaker 1>So I admire the heck out of these people for

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<v Speaker 1>traveling miles to do it, and I blame the state.

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<v Speaker 2>For not rescuing this critter.

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<v Speaker 1>And I loved the texture who said if it was

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<v Speaker 1>one of Jared's prized wolves that were brought in to

494
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<v Speaker 1>slaughter our ranchers livestock, yeah, that they would have deployed

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<v Speaker 1>every state resource to rescue that animal. Eric and Loveland

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<v Speaker 1>on the Dan Kapla Show.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, Dan, what a cool topic. Thanks for talking about them.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 7>I just wanted to put in my two cents.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh uh.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, there's a lot of talk being thrown around

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<v Speaker 7>these days about Nazis, and I think you would call

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<v Speaker 7>these people Nazis. I'd like to. I'd like to nominate

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<v Speaker 7>them for that term. These wildlife people don't know, no, Eric,

505
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<v Speaker 7>they they they they're inhumane. They don't really they don't

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<v Speaker 7>really care about the animals. They just care about doing

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<v Speaker 7>their job by the book and by the rules, and

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<v Speaker 7>they don't they don't care about animals lives. They really don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Eric, I don't think that's fair and and and and

510
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<v Speaker 1>i'd ask you if you have ever't inspect that up.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's why I say that, my friend, what I

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<v Speaker 1>see here, and I made it clear earlier, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not calling out any individual in particular. I'm calling

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<v Speaker 1>out a bureaucratic mindset and a very bureaucratic garbage. We

515
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<v Speaker 1>were fed afterwards about why that animal wasn't helped. But

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<v Speaker 1>I could not even imagine that most, if not all,

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<v Speaker 1>of these wildlife officers love wildlife. I'm talking about bureaucracy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about the state of Colorado. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I think we saw here, just just a bureaucracy that

520
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<v Speaker 1>was going to let this animal die a slow torture

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<v Speaker 1>as death.

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<v Speaker 7>I would like to give you an example. There's a

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<v Speaker 7>guy who had a pet squirrel who he went on

524
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<v Speaker 7>social media, which was foolish in New York, and the

525
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<v Speaker 7>and the Animal Department, uh got wind of it and

526
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<v Speaker 7>came and took it from it, and took it from

527
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<v Speaker 7>him and killed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that wasn't Colorado Parks and Wildlife. I've got

529
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<v Speaker 1>to believe, and I listen, I don't interact with that agency,

530
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<v Speaker 1>but I've got to believe that people who go into

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<v Speaker 1>that they love animals, they care for animals. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this was a bureaucracy that just failed.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's.

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<v Speaker 7>Really disagree with you. I guess on the fact that

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<v Speaker 7>many of them they probably do love animals, but it's

536
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<v Speaker 7>maybe it's the higher ups, but it is a bureaucratic

537
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<v Speaker 7>mindset that it's really dismissive, as we saw in the

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<v Speaker 7>case of this elk of animal lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, the bureaucratic mindset. And I'll give you a

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<v Speaker 1>great example, okay, and it's a little short on time here,

541
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<v Speaker 1>and well there isn't time to go through it right now.

542
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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, personally, and I think anybody just from living life,

543
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<v Speaker 1>right this is going to ring true to you. People

544
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<v Speaker 1>who go into that parks and wildlife, they probably dearly

545
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<v Speaker 1>love animals. But then you get a lot of people

546
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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of kind of jobs everything else where

547
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<v Speaker 1>where you know what, they're not the boss, and you

548
00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:49.079
<v Speaker 1>got the bureaucracy, and you got that lazy, bureaucratic mindset.

549
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<v Speaker 1>It goes to what I was talking about the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>After that horrific, unnecessary, plain disaster in DC. The standards

551
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<v Speaker 1>are dropping in America, and the standards are dropping faster

552
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:04.720
<v Speaker 1>in leftist control places. Excellence isn't the standard anymore, Going

553
00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:08.119
<v Speaker 1>the extra mile isn't the standard anymore. It's this this,

554
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:13.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, bureaucratic mediocrity. And I think that's what we

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<v Speaker 1>saw in action.

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<v Speaker 2>Here. You've got a.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful animal right out there in the open. It's not

558
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<v Speaker 1>in some gully ten miles away. You've got citizens coming

559
00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:24.559
<v Speaker 1>from miles away with shovels to dig this animal out,

560
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:27.440
<v Speaker 1>and the State of Colorado wouldn't step in to save it.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a break. Yeah, that to me, that just

562
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<v Speaker 2>speaks to these bigger issues.

563
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<v Speaker 1>But it's wrong because that is a living creature that

564
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<v Speaker 1>was feeling physical pain, that was obviously feeling emotional pain,

565
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<v Speaker 1>and it's just wrong on every level. We're better than

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<v Speaker 1>that here on the Dan Kaplas Show.

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<v Speaker 4>And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and it's it's just kind of about basic decency

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<v Speaker 1>and if you just joined us, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>This is out of a.

571
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<v Speaker 1>Steamboat pilot newspaper and it's about a big, beautiful elk

572
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<v Speaker 1>that gets stuck on a Steamboat Springs property. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is on a snowy gully on a Steamboat Springs residence property.

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<v Speaker 1>According to this steamboat pilot piece, and according to the piece,

575
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<v Speaker 1>after this elk gets stuck in deep snow all the

576
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<v Speaker 1>way up to its neck. Neighbors were prepared to come

577
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>from miles around to help, but a ranger with Colorado

578
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Parks and Wildlife advised them to let nature take its course.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've got this home owner, as I understand the story,

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<v Speaker 1>who's asking Parks and Wildlife to save the animal. And

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<v Speaker 1>Millie Freed, the Steamboat Springs resident who conducted the rescue mission,

582
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<v Speaker 1>is the person I admire so much or pulling this

583
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<v Speaker 1>rescue crew together. And yeah, so she gets this group together,

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<v Speaker 1>but in the meantime, she's asking the state to step in,

585
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<v Speaker 1>as I understand the story, and the state didn't. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you get this quote from the state's spokesperson that

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<v Speaker 1>I consider to just be typical bureaucratic bs. From our standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to make sure that we're respecting wildlife and

589
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:32.119
<v Speaker 1>giving them space, especially this time of the year when

590
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<v Speaker 1>they're already doing everything they can to conserve energy and calories.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you're respecting that elk by letting it die.

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<v Speaker 2>This miserable had to be a miserable, painful death physically, emotionally.

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<v Speaker 2>That's respecting the elk.

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<v Speaker 1>No. To me, that's bureaucratic, lazy, bureaucratic garbage. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not faulting any particular individual.

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<v Speaker 2>Named in this story.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a bureaucratic mindset. And it's just to me, though,

598
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<v Speaker 1>that this story just goes again to the heart of

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<v Speaker 1>who we are in decency, because you know, anybody who

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<v Speaker 1>says they believe in God, even if somebody doesn't believe

601
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<v Speaker 1>in God, just just basic morality. You've got a living

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<v Speaker 1>thing that feels physical and emotional pain.

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<v Speaker 2>It's dying a torturous death. You can help it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not like it's at the bottom of a gully ten

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<v Speaker 2>miles away. Just don't know. No, we don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want to make it worse for the animal.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just gonna let it be tortured to death.

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<v Speaker 2>There, Ernie and Cheyenne, you're on the Dan Kaplis Show. Welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>Hi Dan here, Ernie.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, I would just like to give your listeners just

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<v Speaker 6>my own little personal experience with the term compassion. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>several years ago, I was in my backyard in the summertime,

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<v Speaker 6>and I heard this god awful wailing of a cat

614
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<v Speaker 6>that was in distress. I looked over the gate and

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<v Speaker 6>I saw what appeared to be two dogs. What was

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<v Speaker 6>two dogs when? Was a pit bull mix and the

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<v Speaker 6>other dog, I don't remember what breed it was, but

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<v Speaker 6>the pit bull mix had a cat in its mouth

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<v Speaker 6>by the back of its neck, and the cat was

620
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<v Speaker 6>just dangling there. And I had a little fat Shepherd

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<v Speaker 6>mix dog named Chow, and I opened that gate and

622
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<v Speaker 6>I said, Chow, get them. That dog ran down the

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<v Speaker 6>alley about seventy five feet and smacked into that pit

624
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<v Speaker 6>bull and enrolled it, and the pit bull dropped the cat.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what a great story, Ernie, And how great of

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<v Speaker 1>you to do that, my friend, And thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>sharing that story.

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<v Speaker 2>And it makes me think.

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<v Speaker 1>To our wonderful neighbors, the Schneiders, coyote got our little dog.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had different dogs at different sizes, and this one's

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<v Speaker 1>still with us. She's got to be one hundred and

632
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<v Speaker 1>fifty and dog's ears and Kyle got her and runs

633
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<v Speaker 1>away with her. So she's a goner. And the neighbor

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<v Speaker 1>has this wonderful honey dog. The Schneiders said this wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>honey dog, Amos, And they said, Amos, go get them.

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<v Speaker 1>Amos chased down that kyote, probably a couple of blocks down,

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<v Speaker 1>Tackle to kyote. Kyleed freed, tests and forty nine hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars and vet bills later, and tests is still with

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<v Speaker 1>us and thriving us.

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<v Speaker 4>Want a steak for the hero dog?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, amosy absolutely, yeah, God rest his canine soul.

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<v Speaker 1>Rick and Boon, you're on the Dan Kapitlo show. Just

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<v Speaker 1>do we need on this topic or any topic?

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Rick? I'm well, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really angry about this story.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to absorb it. I just sitting on the

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<v Speaker 3>radio here a little while ago, so I'm still not

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<v Speaker 3>quite clear on exactly what happened. But as I understand,

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<v Speaker 3>then in a deep snowfield kind of fighting, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was spared up to its neck and couldn't get out, and.

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<v Speaker 3>A bunch of folks came out there with shovels.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they.

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<v Speaker 1>Wanted direct Yes, But the woman who owns the property,

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<v Speaker 1>it's her big backyard. She asked the state to step

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<v Speaker 1>in and save the animal, and the states said no,

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<v Speaker 1>so she organized this group and they came from miles away.

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<v Speaker 2>Rick. But while they were having.

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<v Speaker 3>Breakfast, I can understand that. I can understand both sides

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<v Speaker 3>of it. DoD Brussels folks shipped in to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's what humans do with their empathy, and we tried

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<v Speaker 3>to help. I would hope that somebody was out there

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<v Speaker 3>with a pair of snow shoes and a rifle or

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<v Speaker 3>a gun. It's all all failed.

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<v Speaker 2>Rick.

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<v Speaker 1>The music means that I've got a bar for news,

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<v Speaker 1>But I Rick, are you able to stay my good friend?

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<v Speaker 1>Rick is a wonderful caller. He raises Cati. He brings

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<v Speaker 1>just a tremendous perspective to the show. We'll continue this

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<v Speaker 1>conversation on the other side. Lots want to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I say the States should have stepped in. It's awful

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't. What do you think You're on the Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Kaplis Show.
