Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice,
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Speaker 3: It's Billified the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 1: Hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on, Thanks
for telling a friend, Thanks for writing me that I
need a razor.
Speaker 2: I met so many people hit me on so many
whirl you'll lose your razor, We'll have your razor.
Speaker 1: Any money for a razor? You a razor sponsor?
Speaker 4: I don't know, because nobody ever really has seen you
with a beard.
Speaker 3: I've never seen you with a beard.
Speaker 1: I grew on once and then I was just letting
it go. Yes, I've been letting it go for a while.
Then people, I can tell you're having a hard time.
Your dad really kind of got you. Didn't shave it.
Speaker 3: Don't you love what people make those associations.
Speaker 1: It's like we all do.
Speaker 3: We all do it.
Speaker 1: Of course, we all.
Speaker 3: Try to sound smarter than we really are. Dude, I'm
guilty of this more than anyone.
Speaker 5: Rah.
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 3: You know what Sammy, Uh, you know what Kevin's problem is.
Speaker 2: I think like people would go, uh, it looks like
you're having a really hard time. I really, you haven't
shaved in a couple of days. You look like your
hair's all messy.
Speaker 1: I go, that's how I wear my hair, and I'm
lucky I have it. I'm gonna be fifty four years
old in like two weeks.
Speaker 3: Come on, They asked Marcia Clark, who's the prosecutor for O. J. Simpson?
Are you wearing the white dress for Nicole Brown?
Speaker 4: Are you wearing the right dress for rock Golmos goes,
I'm wearing it because it was clean.
Speaker 3: I mean, just to get to the dry.
Speaker 1: Cleaners right exactly. But no I did. I don't know.
I just thought, well, let's see something different trying out.
I don't know, well, let's see, I mean, looks good.
Beard seemed to be very uh in fashion these days.
Speaker 3: Just don't become one of those beard guys.
Speaker 1: What's a beard?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 4: They start wearing glasses and drink craft beer and wearing
special argyle shirts, wearing hard shoes to the beach.
Speaker 3: They're around. They used to be called hipsters.
Speaker 4: Now they now they and now they've become dads, so
now they're sophisticated. I mean, I mean they're they're like
one generation away from wearing an ascot on a Sunday
afternoon at the beach.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you're smoking a pipe that that's coming by
the way, what the pipe cigars?
Speaker 3: Now it's going to be a pipe you wait?
Speaker 1: Oh, people smoking pipes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like with beards and glasses and mascots.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember my uncle Bill used to smoke a pipe.
Speaker 3: Michael Tony did two for what. I love pipe smoke
every family.
Speaker 1: I like the way it's smell. Yeah, the tobacco.
Speaker 3: Ye, it's the greatest second hand smoke ever. Sure it's
pipe smoke.
Speaker 1: I think I did certainly like that when you think
about it. Now, I were more populated than ever, but
there was a lot of ship they were breathing in
back then, and everybody seemed to live.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well look at Mark Mark's crand parents. Right, they live
under Kodak. They're like not both in their nineties, both smoke,
both both drank.
Speaker 1: Yeah, lived under.
Speaker 3: The smoke stacks of codec. They're fine. Maybe it's one
of those like you know, you got to get away
with the flu.
Speaker 4: Yeah, get rid of the flu A little bit of
like a little bit of the germ scares away that
maybe that's what it was, a little bit of Kodak went.
Speaker 3: A long way.
Speaker 1: Might be Maybe I could become a beard influencer if
I actually let this thing go.
Speaker 4: Maybe start wearing beard oils, start advertising beard oil.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like this. I read an article today about it.
Speaker 3: Bill Moran here for Doctor Squatch beard oil. Yes, it's all.
Speaker 1: Healthy, you could drink it. I want to reach out
to Doctor Squatch.
Speaker 3: They got good stuff. And by the way, it's it's
healthy soap.
Speaker 1: But Doctor Squatch they even have like alone.
Speaker 4: Oh they do they have they have colone, they have
shampoo conditioner, beard oil.
Speaker 1: Now they got a razor for your balls.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay they're branching out.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 4: But if you run it on the UK app soap
there's reas why it's expect because it's incredibly clean.
Speaker 3: There's no chemicals or very little chemicals.
Speaker 1: What we need a Doctor Squatch sponsor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we should Doctor Squatch.
Speaker 4: If you're listening to Billify the Bill Moran podcast, we
could use product or cash.
Speaker 1: There's a uh or both. There's a whole there's a
whole industry now of people who are considered influencers, and
I'm not really sure who they are and what they're
influencing exactly, or how they would determine who's an influencer
and who who's not. Jamison watched this watches this kid
who I really like on YouTube and I don't know
his name, but he goes around to different hotels and
he went to all the haunted hotels that you could
stay at, and he went around and talked all about it.
I guess that would be an influencer, right, because if
people see that, they're going to go to have a
similar experience. And the guy did it a beautifully shot
while the kid's very poison camera was really really well done.
So I guess that would be an influencer. And then
we think of like the Kardashians. Certainly they've influenced people.
There's a whole bunch. It's like they have clones out
there to search. It's so funny and that's okay, But
this guy is a de influencer. He actually has started
something called Dotty Snacks and Dottie I think it's d
a a d I means grandma in I think it's
in India.
Speaker 7: In India, but yeah, Dottima right, okay, So okay, so
Dottie and that.
Speaker 1: So this guy is South Asian, uh, and he made
flavored popcorn using Dotty Ma's recipes and he went through
and they did a bunch of testing and all this stuff.
So that and he built this business. But his he's anonymous.
He doesn't say who he is. He puts his face
on camera, so somebody knows, but it's anonymous, and it's
on the Dottie Na. Yeah, but it's on their Instagram.
So it's like their Instagram where they'd be promoting their popcorn,
but they're not. It's this guy who pops up making
fun of influencers and I fucking love it like it's him. No,
it's it's fantastic. Now, listen to this one. It starts
out with the influencer, okay, and then he duets these
things or jumps in and it's it's incredible. Here we go,
We're about to get hit by a hurricane. Okay. So
this is when the tsunami was coming.
Speaker 4: Right, and they.
Speaker 1: Thought the tsunami was gonna hit like California.
Speaker 3: Careful, there was an earthquake at Japan. Make sure you
brought up your house in Hawaii.
Speaker 1: Yeah, excuse me, mister president, can you spell tsunami? I'll
never forget being at the comedy club and the JJ
God rest his soul. Fucking JJ God rested. So hey, hey, Billy,
how about the tossue me? I go, what the tsue me?
I went home. I watched from six pm to midnight.
I couldn't turn it off, the whole thing. I go.
Speaker 3: You watched six hours.
Speaker 1: Of covers and you still fucking pronounce the word. But
I had a tea of it. Yeah, so all right,
So this woman is in Hawaii, okay, and she's, uh,
I guess, a travel nurse. And maybe she blogs her
travels as to wherever she goes, and maybe people follow.
I don't know, but here we go.
Speaker 5: I am in Hawaii and we're about to get hit
by a hurricane or now.
Speaker 3: Calmly, why does it look?
Speaker 8: So you're a travel nurse staying in Hawaii and you
decide to content farm a potential natural disaster.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, it's no update on this.
Speaker 8: Based on this comment, it's clear you couldn't give one
single funck what happens to the people who live there. Hey,
at least you have your tsunami snacks for your picnic,
because if something happens to the natives, you can pick
your tripod up and hop to the next place.
Speaker 3: You're doing a little picnic.
Speaker 8: We have our snacks, and people tell me I'm too
mean to influencers, and I would argue I should be
much meaner.
Speaker 1: Okay, buy some. I want to make this the fucking
dotty popcorn dead alone, dead alone, Go buy it. It
sounds fantastic. What's like? Oh wait, I think I've seen
this maybe in Wagmans. No, I'm thinking of a different
brand than with made with avocado oil. The popcorn with
a uh one more one more. And this is a
kid who comes out and I guess he's an influencer.
Handsome kid. Hands are all tatted up. I couldn't tell
because he had, you know, clothes on. I couldn't see
how far they went up his arm or anything. But
handsome kid. And he comes out, he's got a complaint.
Speaker 8: When I order an Uber black of Volvo is coming
to pick me up, I'm sorry, but that's an Uber black.
My god, you guys, I just ordered an Uber black
and I'm literally shaking. They sent me an eighty thousand
dollars car instead of one hundred and twenty thousand dollars.
I guess they do say God gives his toughest.
Speaker 1: Battles to his strongest soldiers.
Speaker 8: When I order an Uber black of Volvo is coming
to pick me up.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. So I don't know if that's
a kiddy.
Speaker 4: Bull Canadian because he said the idiot dude sounds Canadian too.
Speaker 1: I don't know where he is. I think he's in
New York City. Okay, I think he's in New York City.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Yeah he does.
Speaker 1: I mean you, uh just look up Dottie Daddi snacks
and you will find them on Instagram. And he just
duets all these people. I think it was Instagram, might
have been TikTok. Excuse me to love it, and uh yeah,
I think it's the first known example of a food
brand doubling as what I would say is a satirical
think tank.
Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely right.
Speaker 1: I love it because it was when my wife.
Speaker 4: Tells me, like in school, they do these like they
ask the kids, what do you want to be when
you grow up? Yeah, and of them like when we
were kids, pro athlete, quarterback, baseball player, maybe astronaut, or
your talk show host.
Speaker 3: Now these kids just influencer. Yeah, okay, what are you influence?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Whatever. Makeup, yeah, eight jeans, Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I don't know if we'll saturate things to a point.
I think they'll always be influenced. Their advertisers. Well, there's always.
Speaker 4: People that are under the influence of something or somebody.
But I mean, now it's like all of a sudden,
Grandma's an influence.
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Speaker 6: Did you everywhere on some of it?
Speaker 1: Okay? Okay, So I did go back and look at
some of the stuff because overall, my biggest concern, and
I said this earlier on the podcast, is that it's
going to be boring. And it was kind of flat
and boring. I mean, it opens up with Deon Dawkins,
who's a huge personality and the lovely guy it seems like,
and he's packing up and leaving his family, and then
it was Dawson Knox, who, by the way, seven people.
I just think that's a lot because I always go people,
go people, please tell me everybody. If someone says to
me everybody I know is doing it, I go, okay,
can you name need ten friends that you talked to
on a regular basis? Right? And that was an old
program director said that to me to just kind of
keep things in perspective when people are coming at you.
And I but I thought seven people with you walking
down with Dawson Knox was like, I'm like, holy shit,
it's another one. Oh, here's another one.
Speaker 7: I'm getting it on Instagram, I'm getting it on Facebook,
I'm getting it on my text I'm getting it was amazing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Dawson's a great guy, and uh, it just was coincidental.
I was walking down from the parking lot and he
was walking out of the locker room and he was
a couple of steps ahead to me, turned around and
saw it was me, and then we just started busing. Yeah,
and you know, he we were trying to coordinate getting
something together for the Killers. That was that Saturday, Yes,
and it was his first practice back, so we were
talking about that.
Speaker 6: I told Hi, man, I'm like, hey man, you know,
you don't have to say you can just take veteran days.
Speaker 1: I go.
Speaker 6: Bruce Smith used to do it all training.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he would take veteran camps.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 3: There was one time where I remember he was tethered
to a tree just running back because he didn't want
to practice. And I was like, you know what, all right?
Speaker 6: He would just be on the stare mill StairMaster the
whole time, didn't.
Speaker 3: His grandmother died three times in one camp, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Dawson's a great guy. And it was when we
were walking. I didn't think anything of it because we
were just bsing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And uh, and as you walked down and I didn't
see anybody because again, you know, you're not.
Speaker 1: You went you weren't. You were literally looking at him,
talking to him and walking. He went one direction, you
went the other, and that was it. But I'm like,
that's pretty fucking cool. And the fact that seven people
said it made it even cooler. For me.
Speaker 5: It was funny because Will sent me I didn't know it,
I wasn't following it during training camp, during the practice,
and then Will sent me attack with it as on
the link and he's like, what the hell.
Speaker 1: You son? So that's very funny. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: The biggest thrill from me on the Hard Knocks piece,
the most exciting thing for me, and I really did
enjoy it. And I know that there's somebody in this
room who did not. And I don't know where you
stand on this, but I loved seeing Dion Dawkins go
drifting with his kids. Oh my god.
Speaker 5: When I saw that, I thought to myself, is the
Department of Social Services is going to show up at
his house tomorrow because they had a helmet on that
didn't fit.
Speaker 1: Oh no, the helmet they had, they had a seatbelt,
They had him in a in a.
Speaker 6: In a restraint of seatbelt. That was not a proof
of their size and age.
Speaker 5: No, if they were in a car, a street car, right,
they he could have been he could have been ticketed.
Speaker 4: Yes, And is it bad that I was more concerned
about the left tackle of the Buffalo Bills getting injured
than his kid, because that's that's.
Speaker 3: That's what horrified me.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, no, I'm watching, You're not where he's drifting.
You're not going to hit anything.
Speaker 3: I didn't I know where that is, by the way, Yeah,
it's on the reservation. Yeah, okay, it was not. I
supposed to say that. There's a lot of them.
Speaker 6: No, you're not supposed to say that.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh that's just I really didn't know why I
didn't say yeah, No, I honestly didn't. I just know
that they've been drifting. Now, I've done drifting. And they
did a whole drifting show in Rochester that was on
Netflix and didn't get renewed for season two. But my
buddy Kevin van Volkemberg was brought into service to repair
all the cars. Oh my god, we were talking this
is down on Kodak and those guys were hitting light
posts and things where he was Yeah, yeah, there was nothing.
It was all wide open and these guys are like,
they'll they'll drift through obstacle courses. I don't know enough
about drifting. It's not it's cool to do. It's not
something I've ever really focused on. And when I'm I
I love that with cars.
Speaker 5: I really didn't have any concerns about him driving it
only because some people who drive with me think that
I drift normally right, and so you know, he was
in control of the car. There wasn't like big spaces
where he could get a ton of speed and then
there were the issues with it.
Speaker 6: So I didn't I wasn't work. That wasn't for me.
Speaker 5: If he was drag racing on the road or something,
I'd be like, okay, you can catch him air that
that can get dangerous.
Speaker 1: It was it was the kids.
Speaker 6: I was thinking, Oh my god, why why who did
he consolet with?
Speaker 1: I don't think who.
Speaker 3: Did HBO consult with? Who did the bills pr?
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't believe they're showing there with nobody.
And I thought the same thing with the kid. I
go the kid like only because we're in twenty twenty five.
If you weigh more than ninety pounds right under night.
Excuse me, if you're under ninety pounds, you're in a
back seat that's rear facing, right, you're that's the car
seat you're in.
Speaker 4: Billy used that joke once doing a comedy show. This
hot shit got up to walk off, and she had
a little bit of a rattle with her shake, and
he goes, hey, you know, hey, where you go. You know,
if you're under ninety pounds, you got to work. Use
a car seat.
Speaker 1: Car seat out in the back window.
Speaker 3: She started laughing.
Speaker 1: They know they're laughing. The difference there. I go, Man,
that'd be great. If she gets drunk and she's yapping,
you just throw it in the car. So it's nice,
drill traffic. Let her look out the rear window. But
it's true, right, and then so you see this and
the helmets, you're right, they're not built for a kid's head.
And I don't know drifting cars well enough, but most
stuff where you're doing, I'll call it acrobatics in a car,
whether it be racing, whether it be drag racing. Their
harness their harness seats because they go over and they
strap you in. So you may because a lot of
those I don't know about modern day race cars, but
a lot of guys who drag their old cars, they
don't have airbags, so you need that harness in there.
And I would think for drifting that didn't look like
although retro. I was gonna say it was definitely a
modified BMW, but I couldn't tell what years, and it.
Speaker 5: Was modified specifically for that. I mean he had the
aerodynamics and everything specifically for that. But you know, and
if you gotta know Dion, that's Dion, and Dion would
never know put of course not be hurt. But I
will say that the laws in certain parts of New
York State apply differently to the people that are on
that premises versus people who are off the premises.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's why.
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laws apply to you as a Native America. Depending on
where you're from, whether it be Canadian or whatever, the
law is still apply to you, but there's certain certain
exemptions that might have got.
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killer show. Uh no, what's the matter?
Speaker 6: Disappointed?
Speaker 1: I got a picture of you from there. I said,
you looked happy, You looked very happy. Yeah, Okay, who sent?
Speaker 6: Did I send you a picture of me? You did not?
Speaker 1: Who said did not?
Speaker 3: The oh I was with?
Speaker 1: Yes, the moment that cuts my hair?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Randy, which reminding me we have to have a conversation.
Speaker 3: Oh we do? Oh yeah, interesting, Okay, your attorney wants
to talk to you?
Speaker 1: Well I have, Yeah, I have to.
Speaker 6: That's right.
Speaker 5: She was actually standing in front of us, yes, and uh.
And then we saw each other and she came over
and we took a picture to send to you.
Speaker 6: She's like, where's Bill. I'm like, I thought he was
gonna be here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, Bill, I've been laying low. July
was a lost month for me. It was just like
I lost that month.
Speaker 5: That was that was crazy, so killers man, there was
so many opportunities for that to be like a pivotal
great moment of Finger Lakes Semac Bill's training camp, and
it felt on a dud.
Speaker 6: It was so anti climactic for me.
Speaker 1: It just well, I did see the confetti, yeah coming down.
Speaker 6: Seemac did a great job with that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And Sarah Axerrod, he runs Semac.
Speaker 5: I mean she put her heart and soul and trying
to make something happen, to make some you know, for
the patrons of seam Act, to make a special in
the mafia and between the Bills and the Killers and everything.
It just was one of those things where it just
didn't work. What you know, you got twenty year old
guys that you're throwing a complication or two or here
or there, and you have a curfew and yeah, all
of a sudden, it's just easier. There was a lot
of good plans for that to happen, a lot of
cool things that happen, and it just didn't come to fruition.
It was a great show and I really enjoyed it.
The anti climactic thing for me, and I'm sure you
have listeners that were there. Was when they came on
to sing the last song, and he says, he says,
h don't tell anyone, but when we sing the song,
we're Bill's fans. And that was the only acknowledgment to
the Bill's mafia and to the Bills fans that were there.
Speaker 6: It was it hit like a lead balloon.
Speaker 5: Ah. And when you if you were there and you
looked at the crowd two Thursdays, seventy five percent of
the people there, yeah, had something Bills on.
Speaker 6: Yep, like the Sure or a hat or something.
Speaker 1: I mean, women, men, Sure, cons Farrish, Shurely Ferris, that's
a nice ship.
Speaker 5: And so it was kind of like, you know, there
was some anticipation or acknowledge that Vineyard and vine was
It's I don't know what it is, yes.
Speaker 1: He does now.
Speaker 5: The night before the night before I was at Joe
Rule and Nelly at Darien Lake, Okay, and those guys
wrought it.
Speaker 1: I fucking love this. Oh God, I love this. You
were that Yeah, Yeah, joh Rule and Nelly. I mean, honestly,
nowadays that's little old school Verrier, right, old school.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was old schools killers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I forget Killers early two thousands. I always listened
to the Killers when I would mow my lawn and
I had the house in Pittsford and that had to
be like five and I did not have an iPad iPod.
I had some other CD. It wasn't even that it was.
It was an m P three player, but it wasn't
your phone.
Speaker 3: Assume it was the Zoo.
Speaker 5: So we're at Darren Lake with Jock and Nelly after
the Red and Blue. I was on the drive home something.
Speaker 6: Why why not stop right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Sure, they talked about they they blew up the Bill's Mafia,
the Buffalo Bills. They were all about it, and every
time they had mentioned it, the crowd would go errupt
and just go crazy. And they really played it, which
gave it an additional energy to the crowd and to
them as they were playing, because you know, you feed
off each other, and I just didn't. The Killers had
an opportunity, and whoever their business manager is, they did
not capitalize. I mean, they could have had hard knocks there.
They could have done that, and they just didn't. They didn't.
Speaker 6: It didn't happen.
Speaker 1: And if you got hard knocks involved, there would have
been players there.
Speaker 6: Well yeah, yeah, but you saw that they did.
Speaker 5: They did bring in mister Brightside, they did bring in
the song, they had all that, but it was it
was an after a fact creation of all those things,
as opposed to what I what could have been an
organic celebration of you know, having them wearing the Josh
Allen jersey, the Dawson Knox.
Speaker 6: The Dalton Kincaid.
Speaker 5: Could have had Dawson Anlyx there, Dalton there Ja there, yeah,
you know, and and I mean that it would have
been a great theater for both Hard Knocks, the Bills
and CMAC and the finger Lakes. And so it's just,
you know, sometimes artists are artists, you can't. You know,
it's the creative arts.
Speaker 1: It is the creative arts. And you're right, people can
get temperamental, and there are egos involved, that's the other thing.
And to be feel like you're going to be upstates
on your stage, which isn't the case. They're incorporating you
into their world and vice versa. And that's what music
should be. And I always say, like, you know, we'll
talk about this in a little while, but you look
at life a little differently. I think that all life
is is feeling because we go back with music to
a feeling we had the person, the feeling, the things,
to the smell that brings back the memory of the feeling.
That's really all we have in this life to take
with us. And it's too bad because I think, I
think what you said about artist is pretty accurate there.
Speaker 5: You know, and it's like, you know, my dad's passed
away twenty five years ago. I'll hear songs that remind
me of when we were together twenty five years ago,
tallgating at Bill's games, and it takes me right back
to that moment when I was thirty years old, I
was twenty five years old.
Speaker 6: That's what music does.
Speaker 5: And I don't want to say they robed like an
opportunity to have that, but it just kind of it was.
It was anti climactic. It was there was an opportunity
and it just feels like it was squandered. But we
all had a great time. I mean it was a
great show.
Speaker 1: It looked like it was a good crowd too. I
was a great crowd.
Speaker 5: It was huge, But again, you know, and everybody that
was there, knowing what was going on and knowing how
hard the people at Siemac were trying to make it
extra special for the patrons that were there and for
the finger Lakes and all of it.
Speaker 6: It just was like, damn man, it could have been
like next level. I mean it truly could have been.
Speaker 5: A viral next level occurrence that I mean. Look, I
mean I like the Killers, but I'm a Bruno guys.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, well Bruno speaks to you, Bruno. Yeah, community,
there's a vibe, there's but there is there's a whole
vibe with him.
Speaker 5: To me, the Killers have become relevant in the last
two years because of the Bills. I agree their resurgence
is because of the Bills mafia. In my opinion, well,
there are a few things.
Speaker 3: The Bills are part of it.
Speaker 4: Michigan and Alabama would play that song in the third
between the third and fourth quarters, long before they did
it with the Bills. I think the Bills research is
because that's there's a video got it from yeah, Josh Allen,
and there's a wedding where they're attending maybe it was
Dawson Dawson.
Speaker 3: And they're all the songs. So then they went viral.
Speaker 4: So of course they start playing at the stadium and
then it became a Bill's song, you know, like every
college football team has a certain song they go to.
Several college football programs have adopted mister Bright's side.
Speaker 1: I think. I also think that the Killers. I think
they live in Vegas and they just go out on
the streets. Sometimes it's set up and play.
Speaker 3: That's cool, just like they'll go down to Fremont Street.
Speaker 1: It just start.
Speaker 6: I doubt he wears that black sequence pants black shirt.
Speaker 4: The Mormons really, yes, I didn't know that Brandon Flowers.
Brandon Flowers is a Mormon. They actually have an interview
with him and Richard Dawkins. I like talking about like
the faith versus eighth years Dawks. Uh, maybe it's Christopher Hitchets,
one of the two of them.
Speaker 1: Dawks, Dad, if you saw, not even close.
Speaker 3: It was either Chris Christopher, but the one who's still alive,
the two of them, like, you know.
Speaker 5: But the interesting thing and again I mean I like,
I like the Killers. They're not a band that I
would like run to. But the band itself is interesting
because you have the lead that had the sequence full outfit,
and then you have the band members and they look
like they look like they.
Speaker 6: Were from horn Out. They had long beard, scruffy T shirt, jeans.
Speaker 3: You know, they look like they look like the guys
that went to high school.
Speaker 1: They just stuffed out of the tasting room of a
craft brewery.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5: It was interesting and it was like, what a contrast
between the front guy and the other guys, right, So
I thought there'd be an interesting like and I was
very optimistic that they would all kind of like jump
in at the end and create this great enthusiastic.
Speaker 6: Environment of it and it but but you know what
it look, it's fun. We're end of the season. We
still embrace mister Bright's side.
Speaker 1: Sure, and we have football now every Sunday and every
Sunday till till Baladi.
Speaker 4: By the way, if you get a chance, look up
on the on YouTube the Killers doing doing Born to
Roll with Bruce Springs.
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Speaker 5: What's interesting is it I've watched people now come around
Josh who are you know, seasoned business veterans in Rochester
and Buffalo, even politician, and Josh walks up and people
go wow, like swallow them like they can't talk, and it's, uh,
you know, it's just an interesting dynamic that when you
get somebody that's like great, you know, bigger than life,
you think. And then and he's such a goofball and
he makes you know, he's so you know, I'll say disarming.
Is that you just kind of like if you have
a teenage son, then you can talk to Josh Allen.
You can talk here Josh Josh, because he really is
like this happy, go lucky good guy and he just
loves and any any like stupid trivia when it comes
to movies or different things. He's that guy like when
you watch Hard Knocks. He's talk he's talking to Terry Pagoula.
Speaker 6: He's looking for things to like be able to like
talk about, to be like funny and quip and and
and that.
Speaker 5: You know, that's what when you have a superstar like
him that has that groundedness.
Speaker 6: I mean it's transformational. I mean it's unique.
Speaker 3: He was talking about gravity. At one point, I was like,
what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: He was, They were having it that. That's right. They
did get a little deep.
Speaker 3: A trifical force or something like.
Speaker 1: That about you brought you say the word grounded. I
notice something because I did go to training camp and
I noticed something that I'm wondering if it will be
featured on Hard Knocks or not. And I'm gonna call
it grounding where they had players with some of the
trainers walking around barefoot on the field. And I'm just
telling you from because I have another podcast called Bill
Lightman where we talk more about the spiritual, worldly kind
of stuff. That that's a big thing. Like they're even
in Australia.
Speaker 6: Now it's not a trainer.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's not a trainer. Well, I watched a couple
guys and I go, that's an interesting thing. Because there
are times where I will grab a cup of coffee
and walk out my front door and just walk on
the grass in the morning early on. Uh. But I've
been doing that. I've been doing that for years. But
it was weird to see them do it. Like I'm
watching Greg after am I and I'm standing there. I
was a guest of doctor Rice who threw fishers and yes,
you were at his house. He uh is the head
of the mental health the farmer over there, and and
we're watching it and I went wow, and he goes, yeah,
they're grounding these guys, And I go, that's an interesting thing.
It's almost like you can feel your This is gonna
sound really weird and kind of queer. You're like one
with the earth, but you can feel the Earth's vibrations.
There's a greater connection to the ground. There's a little
more grounding for you. It brings you sort of down
a dirt. Yes, but I mean yes, but but I
thought that was interesting. I hadn't seen that anywhere, and
there were a couple a number of players doing it,
and I thought it was a trainer, not a trainer.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's part of their you know, the it's the
mac Collins effect.
Speaker 1: Actually is it really is.
Speaker 5: And then they've got a you know, I guess I'll
say a team psychologist that in part of it with Mac,
brought to the whole whole team and just the whole
concept of like being grounded and getting in touch with
yourself is like touching the earth. You know.
Speaker 1: I think it's so true.
Speaker 5: And I can tell you after practice there are multiple
players that walk the field and having to have someone
they talk to as they're going up, and what they're
doing is that they're talking about practice, the things that
happen in practice, the things that occurred, how it occurred,
what they would do differently, how they prepare for the
next day. And and again I mean in terms of
dealing with life, is that those are the things that
you should be, you should do in terms of enjoy,
enjoy the moment and prepare.
Speaker 6: For the future.
Speaker 1: Mac no longer with the Buffalo Bills. He's with a
goddamn page case, and that is where my concern comes in.
They've been having joint practices with the Commanders. They're going
to play the Commandators in their first preseason game this weekend.
Rabel is their new head coach. Yeah, there was a
scrum on the field between the Commanders and the and
he jumped in the middle and he got punched in
the face and had blood dripping down his face and
all this stuff. And what concerns me is like, he's
gonna rally the fucking troops, Greg, because they know he
was a player. He played fourteen years in the league.
He played with the Chiefs, he played with the Patriots.
I forget the other team. There was a third team
I believe in there and this guy, and I go,
he is going to turn this team around, and I
don't want him to.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think at this point right now,
is that I think the Patriots are a team. The
Patriots are a team that will win games because they
had him as a coach. Yeah, but they don't have
the talent and they don't have they don't they don't
have the people they need in the right spots yet.
But if that team gets.
Speaker 1: Some turnovers, Dan, Yeah, this is what they're saying.
Speaker 5: They're in a game there, dangerous, they're a score or
two down, and then they get a turnover in the
second half and they're they're within one score.
Speaker 6: They can make things happen that they can upset a
team or two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll close it out. I want to. I'll change
this up a little bit because Greg sent me a
really nice message when my dad passed and it was, uh,
we now have that in common too, and Danny has
lost his dad. And I'll just ask you this, what
did it do for you when when you lost your dad?
And I asked that because I feel like I need
to I am and I need to continue to step
up my game. And I don't know what it is.
It's like I've made some pretty significant changes in certain relationships,
have drawn boundaries in certain areas and I don't know
it's all been around that. Would it have happened anyway? Maybe,
but it certainly seems to be one of these things
where you're like, oh shit, yeah, your your safety, your
guardrail is gone, right. I don't know if that's how
you feel. It's just different I think with guys then,
I don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's for me and my dad passed away. I
was I was thirty and uh, I mean he was
my he was my guy, he was my best friend.
And uh, it was one of those things where when
it when it went away.
Speaker 6: It was like where do I go right, and I
was a bit lost.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it took me a bit to kind of figure
it out, right, and uh, and what what kind of
as a you know, and you talk about the alpha, right,
you know, for me, it was like, I'm in control
of my life and I want to make my parents proud.
Speaker 3: So what do I gotta do?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: And the question was am I going to step up
and do it? Or am I gonna have excuses? And
am I gonna find reasons not to do it? And
and I made a commitment that to myself and and
to and to honor my dad and the life that
he lived and his father is that.
Speaker 6: My dad did everything for us.
Speaker 5: My dad sacrificed his life to do what he thought
was in the best purse of us kids. And you know,
up to that point in time, I lived my life
for me. Yeah, it was about me because my dad
allowed me the comfort to do that. And then I
all of a sudden had to think about beyond myself
and in in you know, as an it's an inspiration.
Speaker 6: And we talked about it earlier. I think we might
have been off the air.
Speaker 5: Is that, you know, there are times and it's twenty
five years later, I'll hear a song that'll bring you
back to that time and it just grips me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had a few of those moments, not as many,
and certainly as you know, my dad was I'm fifty
something years old, right, so I haven't lived under the
same roof as him. It was my brother who took
him to be closer to where my brother lived, so
I didn't have that. But there will be those, you know, holidays.
Certainly the calls. We had some pretty great discussions over
the past couple of years on the phone. I would
always sort of enjoy that. I think one of the
sweetest things that I heard was my youngest son say
to me, I really feel guilty because you know, sometimes
you would get on the phone with him and he
just keep talking and talking and talking, and that was
sort of our joke. Even with my dad. He would
always go, oh wait, wait, wait, one more thing. Yeah,
like we're getting off the phone and go I'm all
talked out. I got nothing to say, oh wait, wait, wait,
one more thing. And we felt like when he was dying,
like it was wait, wait, wait, one more thing, because
it just hung on and hung on. And it's sort
of a joke, but I'll miss those sort of things,
and I'll miss a little bit because he and I
had certainly become much closer over the past couple of years,
some of the guidance stuff. I was really open with
him about a lot of stuff, you know, and that
you're right, because there's not a lot of it's your
dad and when you get to a point where you
can talk as and and forgive me if this sounds
almost misogynistic, but as men man to man, right, that's
a big thing. And he's hearing you, but you're looking
to him as the advisor because he's still your dad.
And I'm telling him shit that I thought I would
never tell them, but I'm telling them.
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know about you, Dan, but there
was a there was a time.
Speaker 5: You know, probably you always you never want to disappoint
your parents, never, but there was a point in time
where you realize you could trust them and you could
say whatever you wanted and he wasn't going to judge you,
or he wasn't going to think anything less of you.
And but that's a special relationship that a child has
with their parents. And I'm sure, I'm sure you know
girls have it with their moms. Maybe with their dads too,
Maybe with their dads. I mean my mom, you know me,
not as much as I do with my dad. But
I told my dad things that I had I had
never shared and have to that to this day, never
shared with another person. And those are probably the things
that missed most where it wasn't judgmental, Right, I think
I upset to you before, Bill, and maybe to you Dan,
is that for me, there's only one love that's truly
unconditional in my opinion, and that's the love of a
parent to a child.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and once when you're a child and you understand that,
you then I think.
Speaker 5: You have a trust and a confidence that you can
say and share things that you would never share.
Speaker 6: And when it's gone, it's.
Speaker 3: Gone, it's gone.
Speaker 1: Right. It's just it's just an interesting thing and I
really appreciate it actually when you wrote that we have
that in common, and I'm like, yeah, we do. And
that's a different thing, and I don't think it's ever
really discussed. And that's kind of what I do. I
pick at the sore spot. Oh, Greg, it's.
Speaker 6: Good to see it.
Speaker 1: The Bill's Mafia had I love it, love the shirt.
I still think it's finding Vine. I have no idea. Danny.
I love Danny take on Dion Dawkins being freaked out
about it's drifting. I thought the drifting was great.
Speaker 3: Fans too with the freaking boy oh god boas dude.
Speaker 1: Like that was crazy.
Speaker 3: But most teams have contracts for you can't do stuff
like that. Yeah, we had two instances of one show.
Speaker 6: It's not venomous, it's a contrictor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's only gonna choke you in a death that
it's fine.
Speaker 1: Well he's so big around him, Fine, alright. For Greg Connors,
for Dan Brilla on Bill Moran, We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Don Worth, he is a land up opportunity for me.
Speaker 6: Is just a curse that judge and make us be