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Speaker 1: If you build a base, now you've got support, it

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goes a little higher, and building up other base you

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have support that goes up again. And I call it

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grinding higher. And that's what we're seeing here over the

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last several months. It's kind of just ground higher and higher.

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People get a little disgusted. It's going sideways. Oh, it

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can't get above thirty five? Oh man, thirty five?

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Speaker 2: Is it all?

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Speaker 1: Thirty five? Thirty five? Thirty And all of a sudden

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it's thirty seven, you know, staying there and then you know.

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So this is what I expect. You're listening to.

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Speaker 2: Than ever, and welcome. This is Financial Survival Network. I'm

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your host, Carrie Let's. You're watching myself and David Morgan

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the Moorganreport dot com. When I want info on silver,

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when I want I really know what's happening, there's only

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one person I think of, and that is you, David Morgan, Hey,

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what can we say about silver? You know it's now

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trading the highest it's been since twenty eleven. We broke forty,

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we even broke forty one. And I know you're of

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a conservative bent, But what your gut telling you? Is

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this the real deal? Or are we going to get

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a head fake again?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll let the market decide. I mean, I'm a

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big believer. I've said so many times that the market

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knows more than any of us. But having said that,

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you know, all I need to do is see a

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couple closes above forty, you know, a couple more days

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in a row, and that's confirmation that it's a breakout.

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I do think it probably is, and there's a much

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upside resistance above the forty level. If you look back

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in history, you know, the nineteen eighty high was intra

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day and the fifty I'm talking about, or fifty two

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to fifty was I think the clothes on the Chicago Exchange. Regardless,

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that was very momentary. And then in twenty eleven, when

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we didn't quite hit fifty, but we did trade above

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forty four a month and a half. In another couple

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of months if you look at the chart. So maybe

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I don't know three and a half months. I haven't

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studied it to the day, but it isn't a lot

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of trading that went on above this level. So now

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we have to build a base probably or we could

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shoot up. But I'm thinking we're going to kind of, hopefully,

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in my opinion, stair step up. And the reason I

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say that is you really don't want a parabolic move

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at this stage of the last leg up in the

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precious metals, which means if it goes parabolic, you know,

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like throwing up tennis ball in the air, what goes

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up must come down. If you build a base, now

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you've got support, it goes a little higher. And building

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up you have support that goes up again, and I

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call it grinding higher. And that's what we've seen here

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over you know, the last several months. It's kind of

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just ground higher and higher. People get a little disgusted.

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It's going sideways. Oh, it can't get above thirty five?

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Oh man, thirty five is it?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Thirty five, thirty five, fifty And all of a sudden

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it's thirty seven, you know, staying there and then you

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know so this is what I expect. I don't feel

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that we're going to get to fifty this year, but

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you know, I'm happy if we do. But I'd rather

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see what I just said that we kind of just

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grind up over you know, current day to the end

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of the year and build that base. They get more

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and more participation where people get used to the idea

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that silver is at forty forty two, forty three, forty four,

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forty five, forty five, forty five, forty five, and it

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keeps going. And of course it's up and down, as

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we both know, but generally moving on it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I feel confident saying it's a breakout, although you

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do a lot more than I do. You got a

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few more years in this space than me, a lot

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more years. But I'm looking at the price of gold today.

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Broke thirty five hundred thirty five thirty four according to Kitko.

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spot market, it's pretty spot on, no pun intended. And

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silver broke that forty one in the access market. That

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was something I wanted to talk to you about. But

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right now, as of the ten AM fixed forty dollars

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and eighty three cents. Now, last Friday was the last

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trading day of August for netals, and that's always a

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significant day, and silver didn't make it over forty and

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one could aver or allege that the powers that be

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were painting the tape. But then in the access market

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over the weekend, on yesterday or the day before, it

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broke four forty bucks without a hesitation. So which makes

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me wonder is the COMEX losing its ability to control

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Speaker 1: Well, I would say somewhat. First of all, you know,

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there's so much controversy within the metals community. I mean,

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there's staunch, there's no manipulation, there's staunched, there is only manipulation.

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differing view, and that is you cannot manipulate the long

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term trend. Within that trend, you certainly can manage the

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price from time to time, and that's been proven, to

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my satisfaction by what Adrian Douglas did at GATA.

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Speaker 2: I reread his paper on.

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Speaker 1: It and what we did in the silver manifesto talking

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about the sharps ratio. But I don't want to go

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too far down that path. You asked the direct question.

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that and the access market is where most of the

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time you'll see unusual trading activity. In terms of volume,

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it's a smaller market. And anytime you put a large

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sell on anything, be it a stock, be a commodity,

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be it used cars, be it houses, where you say, well,

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we've got this inventory, we want to dump it all

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sell they now, the price is going to drop, especially

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if you do it in a fin market, which is

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the access market, because orders have to match. So if

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you've got forty two dollars silver and you get an

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abnormally large volume like five, six, seven, eight times a

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normal volume, how do you match those orders? The answer

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you don't. I mean you've got to go from forty

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three and aay down to thirty eight before all the

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orders line up.

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Speaker 2: And some of those orders, I.

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Speaker 1: Would tell you confidently, are not participants that are overseas.

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to catch their own sort sale to close out their position.

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This happens all the time.

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Speaker 2: People don't think.

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Speaker 1: That way, but that's exactly how it works. So there

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is that part of it. I will not back down

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on that fact. I mean spoofing. You know, think about

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the manipulation and the many directions. So I'm on a roll.

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But you know, if you go to somebody that's more

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establishing than myself, and you absolutely go into though the

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law the let's say what was written as a verdict,

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you will not find a word manipulation. You'll find a

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word spoofing. So you could argue as a lawyer, and

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I have contract law only. I got an A in

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the class for.

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Speaker 2: Whatever that's worth.

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Speaker 1: Manipulation isn't in there, So I could go in the course,

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there's no manipulation. Here's all the proof. You're on her,

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and i'mderlying all the spoof Well, spoofing is no spoofy

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is a manipulation. So you get in that semantics argument, right.

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The point being is spoofing has been proven time and

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time again. I consider to be managing the market, so

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I'm using a different word your honor and life goes on.

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And then you've got the argument, and I think it's

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a justifiable argument. Well happens in all the markets. That's

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probably true. I mean you've seen it happen in the

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wheat market. You've seen it happen the oil market. Oil

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is about as managers as the metals market, as far

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as our data shows or the data shows us.

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Speaker 2: Let me reframe that.

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Speaker 1: And that is and this isn't like new I mean markets.

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I mean we you know, read Jesse Livermore's book, you know,

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I mean, this is not new to markets when people

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could get an edge over each other, insider trading, the

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whisper thing, seeing the crop report before anyone else. I mean,

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this is not like you know, oh my goodness, it

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just started or it started in nineteen seventy nine or whatever.

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Come on, this is human nature, pitsland. It's on another

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they're going to do. Sorry, I mean, there's something that

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won't lay here.

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Speaker 2: I shopped, yeah so so, but yeah, the long run,

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but if they could keep doing it in the short run,

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eventually it will catch up to them. But what is

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the short run? Is it a week? Is it a day?

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Is it a month? Six months? Six years? The game

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has been a foot for a long long time here,

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whatever the game is that they're playing, and no intelligent

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minds can have differing opinions but certainly spoofing prices. I mean,

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JP Morgan only paid a nine hundred and twenty million

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there and they didn't protest too much about it. Maybe

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there is a plan, maybe there's but for our purposes here,

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it's not really relevant, is it.

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Speaker 1: Well, again, if you go back to my premise that

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you can't manage the launch or manipulate the long term trend,

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and also keep the right amount, you know, I think

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heads out there, and you know, maybe I misled people.

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None of that was ever deliberate. I always said, basically

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ten percent enough for most people of plenty if you're aggressive,

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so that means you got eighty percent and whatever, real estate,

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the stock market, private business, you know, art, I don't care.

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the metals, and there's some such as myself Mike Maloney,

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that really are overweighted. But it's our specialty and we're

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comfortable there. But most people aren't comfortable, especially when I

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see you know, Tesla taking off or their you know,

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brother in law's got a rental apartment that's doubled the

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rental price in the last five years long, so do it.

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There's no The reason I started what I did was

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I and know or new that a hedge was required

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going into a monetary crisis. But I didn't know if

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the crisis was ten years out, twenty years out, of

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thirty years out, and I missed times it. I'll admit

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that I thought it would be sooner than it is now.

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But we're really entering in to the place where almost

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all investors are waking up to the fact that something

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is a right in the monetary system, and we're just

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starting to see an exit out of or rotation out

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of stocks of the only place to be the only

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go up. I'm just going to keep doing an index

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trading into you know what, I like gold, or I

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want some gold, or I want to move some of

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my profits in the gold. And that's already started. Of course,

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it started a few years back with the central banks,

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but now starting to move into the top tier. Let's

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say the elites that have you know, gobs and gobs

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of stock. They're selling off, you know, a billion dollars

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worth of their shares and quietly moving into precious moments.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a kind of an inevitability to

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it all, don't you think I do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this cycle has been gone through time and

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time again. It's just never been a worldwide phenomena. I mean,

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no one knows that better than you know, Martin Armstrong.

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I mean he knows it better than I. But you know,

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in other realms, you could have escaped to a different

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country or a different currency and kind of protected yourself.

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This way, there's really no out out of the US dollar.

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Yes there's the bricks, but they really don't have an

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official currency, and I don't think there's a way to

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hiden the currency. Marty may disagree with me, but I

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think gold as he says, it's not me he's necessarily

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an inflation heads. It's a government hedge. When trusted government

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breaks down, it's breaking down on a global basis. It's

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not just you know, the constitutional republic that we purportedly have,

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which is broken down years ago. You look at democracies,

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you look at you know, socialist systems across the board.

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You're seeing people that are disgusted with their leadership.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well, you know, the game has always been

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we finally reached this point. I mean I felt like

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we were coming here back when Silver broke thirty two

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dollars that seemed to have been a key resistance point.

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Thirty two fifty broke through there. Then it played around

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here for a good six months before we got to

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this point. I think it was back in May when

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Silver or maybe April Silver hit thirty two bucks, I

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don't remember off the top of my head. But yeah,

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so resistance ahead. What what's the next resistance point? It's

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got to be fifty bucks, right or forty nine to fifty. Yeah,

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that's a psychological resistance. I mean, nineteen eighty its stayed

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there for minutes on the floor, tat say an hour

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or so. You go back to twenty eleven, at actually

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didn't even hit fifty to hit the high high high forties.

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Stayed there momentarily, and it lasted just a few days.

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So it's psychological.

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Speaker 1: There'd be probably algorithms that say, you know, sell out

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at forty nine twenty two to fifty one eighty three,

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whatever the you know, whatever's in the computer, and I

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think that will happen. Now that's a guess, it's an

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educated guess. But it doesn't really prove anything. I do

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think it'll stall out because of the psychological resistance, but

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there isn't really any true resistance there. I mean, as

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far as you know, it's you know, having days and

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weeks and months at that level and the never getting

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beyond it, which we have seen and overcome as you outline.

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So really I think it's a psychological barrier only I

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do think it'll take place. I think it'll be momentary,

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meaning you know, days, weeks, I don't think, you know,

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a couple of months maybe, and then I think we'll

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get through it the next time. And the next time

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we do stay there under the more been rull three

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four days in a row on big volume, on clothes only,

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we're probably off to fifty five, sixty sixty five, who knows,

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But it will be very interesting to see what happens

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once it reaches the fifty level and we start seeing

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a fifty handle where it's not three days, it's three weeks,

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and then it's three months, and then it's you know whatever.

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So looking forward to that day, it is ahead of

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us as far as I can ascertain.

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Speaker 2: Time will tell you know, I bought most of my

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silver right after the crash, after the collapse, when metal

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markets really got wasted, gold was trading as low as

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seven hundred. Premiums were up. You know, premiums are asi

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as ten percent, and I bought silver right around at

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the same time for eight to ten dollars an ounce,

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sometimes a little cheaper than that. So I've never really

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ever thought of disposing of my physical at what point,

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because you know, people get greedy and just like people

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like me who sold their bitcoin at six hundred dollars

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and thought they were cleaning up, we don't want to

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be in that situation.

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Speaker 1: It's a tough call, Kerrie. First of all, David Smith

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and I wrote a book, Second Chance, and it talks

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about how to take profits, and there's several ways to

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do it. One thing that you got that I think about,

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and I don't think it's voiced that often in the community,

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and that is so as long as we're in a

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dollar system.

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Speaker 2: I put that in a quotation.

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Speaker 1: Mark's not a you know, definition of a dollar, which

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is a weight of silver, but in the parlance of

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a februaryserve note, you've got to look at the history

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that we have in modern times, the nearer term is

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more important for trading than the long term. So golds

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out of the ground all in sustaining costs, they can

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make a round number about eighteen hundreds if you double

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eighteen hundred to come out with thirty six. So right

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now gold is trading about double what the ais C is.

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So if we apply that same metric to silver, you

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all sustaining costs somewhere around twenty six and around it

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up to twenty eight. Double that, that's fifty six. So

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we get to fifty six. We have the same metric

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that we do in gold, meaning the all in sustaining

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costs is two x what the you know, the price

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is two x what the all.

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Speaker 2: In sustaining cost is.

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Speaker 1: Now, if we're just still trading in dollars, which we

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probably will be, or federal reserve notes, how high is

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it going to go within you know, within that realm?

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In other words, unless you get a breakdown, which you

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can of one or two things. One you could lose

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faith in the dollar altogether, which is happening more and

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more rapidly all the time, and that means converting those

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thud reserve notes into hard assets, especially the Prentice metal,

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you will push the price higher and higher could go

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to absurd levels.

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Speaker 2: However, that could be.

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Speaker 1: A momentary event, just like it was in nineteen eighty

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eighty twenty eleven, especially if there is a new monetary

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system that's right around the corner, meaning they're going to

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reprice everything in the new digital currency. So I don't

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want to get too wrapped up in the one hundred

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dollars five hundred dollars one thousand dollars silver or whatever

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some of these numbers are out there. I want to

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take a more practical view of what's the economy doing.

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Are we in a blowoff inflationary mode? Are we looking

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at something more of a debt liquidating liquidity squeeze where

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the bond market gets forced lower because the interest rates

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take off on their own, regardless of what the discount

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window is set up by the Thuld Reserve Board, And

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all of a sudden, people can't buy groceries or.

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Speaker 2: Pay their electric bill. What are they going to do?

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Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is an out living out. I'm

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not ruling out a deflationary type of scenario that could

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be temporary before a hyperinflationary blowoff or it takes hold

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in it goes that direction. Which means you've got to

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watch the market closely and price it accordingly.

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Speaker 2: So let me do a real quick example.

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Speaker 1: Let's say the SMP goes from sixty four hundred or

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thereabouts down to five thousand, So whatever that is thirty

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percent loss, I can't do that math in my head

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that well, and then gold stays to goes to five thousand.

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Now we got a one to one SMP.

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Speaker 2: To gold.

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Speaker 1: Well, now that piece of gold hasn't really changed.

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Speaker 2: The price has. But what does it buy?

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Speaker 1: What buys a lot more companies than it used to?

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What if it buys more housing than it used to,

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What if it buys more automobiles than it used to?

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And that's what I'm looking for, because people want to

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get a numerical price. But as the inflation or depreciations

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a better term of the dollar continues, you're looking at

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a shrink unit. You don't really know what the price is,

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meaning it's the value, which means you've got to compare

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it to other goods and services. So let's say, for example,

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we do start to see a lot of backing down

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in the equity side, and even the bond market starts

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to have more and more.

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Speaker 2: Problems now what do we do.

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Speaker 1: Well, we evaluate what the value is of those metals

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and how much they've appreciated against all their asset classes.

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And if that's the case and the price remains the same,

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the value has increased. And now what do we do well?

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I think you use some logic, you say, you know what,

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I'm going to take some profits here. I plan to

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filter out on the way up, not get too greedy.

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I know from trading futures for a living how difficult

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it is. And always sell in the strength and not say,

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oh my god, I sold it at fifty five in

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the day. At sixty, well I didn't sell at all,

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and it's still selling in the strength, and I still

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have some powder. I might sell some more at sixty

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or whatever. But there's a plan or plans outlined in

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that book. To think you're going to get the very

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tippy top. That's an amateurs game. You don't want to

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play that game. You want to be a professional. You

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want to get out within hopefully twenty percent of the top,

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and at the top is one hundred, twenty percent of

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that is eighty.

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Speaker 2: So if you got out.

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Speaker 1: At sixty seventy eighty and it went to one hundred,

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and you got some out at ninety let's say, at

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peaks and it starts to fall ninety eighty, you sell

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off the rest. You're convinced that the peaks here, everybody's selling,

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and call the dealers. I'm selling. Well, we're going to discount.

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You discount.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean?

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Speaker 1: So it was it ninety, Well, we've got so many sellers,

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we're just cutting you to eighty bucks, which is what

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happened in the nineteen eighty run up. The dealers in

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La bid backed about thirty five, even though the futures

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price was hitty in fifty.

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Speaker 2: Momentarily, yep, no, I just remember what Bernard Beruk said

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that he got rich letting the other guy make the

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last ten percent. And you know you can't expect to

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get out at the top here. You're a professional, you

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know you've been doing this your whole life, and you're

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saying you can't get out at the top. How does

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that work for me? It can't be done. But on

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the other hand, you might always want to keep core

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holding right, but my person power goes up so much

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that you can buy other assets that historically were overvalued

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for undervaluation. That's what you're saying, right, So if you

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can buy a house for a thousand ounces of silver,

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say just as a for instance, maybe you do that right, right,

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And I think there's a legacy, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean you listen to Jim rickcards and a lot

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of respect for Jim, and you know what are the

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legacy investments? The lands lamb, golden and fine art are collectibles.

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So you know, most people are out of the collectibles thing.

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That's for pretty much the very rich. The gold is

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accessible to almost start everyone these days in real estate.

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And so I would definitely for a legacy toward my

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kids and my granddaughter pass on some you know, some

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precious metals. I probably never sell it all, but certainly

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when it gets overvalued relative to other things. Again I

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say overvalued, maybe not correctly priced in the imagination of

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you know some people. I mean, so when you get

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to the hyperinflation, the prices are relevant. I mean, in Zimbabwe,

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the one hundred trillion dollar bills never hit circulation. The

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currency had failed before those bills were allowed to circulate,

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So you know what good were they?

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Speaker 2: They weren't.

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Speaker 1: They're worthless even though they had that large number on.

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Speaker 2: MM. So I guess you know, the question on everybody's

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mind is how high it can go, and your responses

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doesn't matter. You have to watch it and don't be greedy.

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Take your exit when it's time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just believe that you got to be a

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sound mind, and you've got to, you know, be satisfied

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with what you get. As the late great Jim Doane said,

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love what you get, it's all you're gonna get.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I couldn't agree with that more. In fact, I've

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more or less lived my life that way. You got

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to want what life wants for you because you have

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no control over what it's going to give you anyway,

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So you might as well be happy with what you

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have a little bit of philosophy, but it certainly happens

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with the markets. But it is a nice feeling when

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you see that your your stack is appreciating in value,

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and you know it's more than doubled over past year

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and a half. That is a good feeling. Oh absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I mean you look at you know how poorly silver

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has done. If you go to gold, you know from

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the last twenty five years it has a Keeger compound

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annual growth rate of over ten percent. That's better than

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the stock market, which yes and P is about eight

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percent and the housing market's about six percent. Now, silver

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hasn't done as well as gold. It's somewhere near what

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the S and P has done, but still that is

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a compound. Now the problem is people say, well, wait

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a minute, day, what are you talking about. I'm talking

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about the compounded average growth it over that time period.

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But that doesn't mean every year it does that. Some

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years it goes up thirty percent, some years it goes

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down thirty percent. But the idea of the metals especially

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is its preserved wealth.

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Speaker 2: Wealth preservation.

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Speaker 1: It's there forever and always and because of that, if

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you hedge or write them out for you five percent,

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ten percent, twenty percent, whatever it is that in the

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long run is going to do what I just outlined.

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And this is something that investors actually have the mindset

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to do it, whereas day traders, swing traders, traders really

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don't have that mentality. That's okay, it takes all currents

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to make a market. I've nothing against them at all.

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They just have a different view of the markets and

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how they approach them, and that's fine. But if you're

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looking at the market as a speculator and yet you're

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acting as an investor. You have cognitive dissonance. Oh my god,

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I bought the silver of thirty and now it's twenty five.

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Speaker 2: What A'm gonna do? What am I gonna do? What

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I'm gonna do?

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Speaker 1: Well, you're about to write them out. You're probably spit

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a sleep soundly, because you know, if we go into

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a currency crisis, you're going to do fine. And if

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we don't, you're gonna be okay, especially if it even stays.

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Speaker 2: Below where you bought it.

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Speaker 1: Four in terms of Federal Reserve notes, at least, one,

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you haven't lost everything. Two it has some value, and

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three you should be happy in a way because you're

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hedged in the worst case scenario. But people that go

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all in and go for the wrong thing at the

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wrong time, to buy the wrong product of the day,

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they ever heard the word silver?

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Speaker 2: You know. I'll tell you a little anecdotal tale here.

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Back in twenty ten eleven, I was really business is great.

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I just sold out of my law firm. I was

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buying well the metal I could lay my hands on,

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and I got my friend into doing it, and he

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had a lot more money than me. He bought way more,

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you know, he was sitting on over seven figures worth

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and then his business went under. He got divorced, and

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he said, you know, I needed to cash in a

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lot of that. But if it wasn't for the fact

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that you got me into it, I would have never

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had that money. Because when you've got the medal, there's

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an intense predisposition not to part with it, and it's

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a kind of forced savings. So he was well ahead

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of where our entry point was. But more importantly, it

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was a type it's liquid, but it's still a pain

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to get rid of. It's not like sending money from

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one account to another or selling your crypto off and

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transferring the money to your account. And as a result

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of that friction to dispose of his medals hoard, he

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had it when he needed it, and he was very

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thankful to me. And I felt like, hey, what did

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I do here? I just gave you my opinion, you

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acted on it. I'm no financial advisor, but I'm putting

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my money where my mouth is. And it really worked

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out for him. So that is an added benefit to

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having the physical that most of you out there really

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don't get. All right, Well, it's great to talk to

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you again. Especially on this momentous day. And I do

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think it's momentous because we've got gold making new all

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time highs and we've got silver making almost fifteen year

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highs here. So this is a good day for US

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vindication validation as if you needed it anyway, which you

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certainly don't. Oh, one final thing, the metal stocks, precious

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metal stocks, they seem to be coming back to life. Now,

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what are your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they're they're confirming the move. I mean, they've

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been doing well during the summer while golds really been flat.

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More and more interest in them. They are really the

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value plays. I mean the gold miners were trading as

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if gold was like twenty two hundred the ounce instead

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of or thirty five hundred the ounce. They're starting to

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move now. Newmont is the second best performing stock this

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year on the sm P five hundred. Think about that,

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five hundred stocks the videos edging it out slightly and

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new Month's the second best.

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Speaker 2: Maybe at the end of the week, New.

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Speaker 1: Mount Willacks would be the number one best performing stock

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on the S and P five hundred.

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Speaker 2: Think about it.

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Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, nobody's talking about that, So

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it's pretty interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I know exactly what you're saying. Couldn't agree with you.

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More holding of stocks and some really good ones, but

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we don't really talk about particular stock names here. If

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you are interested, you can always send me an email.

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I'll shoot off to David. You can get the Morgan

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Report where he covers a lot of companies and the

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David's Pleasure. I've got a question for David myself. Shoot

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me an email kl at Carrie Loot dot at carrielots

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dot com. It's the Morgan Report dot com links to

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the show notes if you go to the site Financial

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Survival Network dot com, which we're phasing into a substax

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site because it's just so much easier to manage, less costly,

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and it lends itself to writing articles and newsletters, and

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you'll find it there. But Financial Survival Network dot com

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is going to take you there anyway. David can't thank

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you enough. It's so great to reconnect with you. Hopefully

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I'll see you at a conference one of these days.

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So great, Grey, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to carry Lets's Financial Survival Network your

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