Speaker 1: Oh that's are Hello, and welcome to the show. This
Speaker 1: is the Cult of Conspiracy and on the Cage Night,
Speaker 1: and today we're going to be talking about one of
Speaker 1: the more obscure yet well known topic of the day
Speaker 1: and age. You've heard of the Bermuda Triangle. You may
Speaker 1: have heard of the Northeast Triangle. You may have heard
Speaker 1: of the Golden Triangle in Afghanistan where all the opium's growing.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about those triangles today. Today we're going
Speaker 1: to be talking about the Alaskan Triangle, where apparently there
Speaker 1: is as much chicanery, planes going down, people getting lost,
Speaker 1: all the things that you would expect from the Bermuda Triangle.
Speaker 1: But because it's in Alaska, and because it's just the
Speaker 1: great wilderness in frontier of Alaska, we don't really hear
Speaker 1: about it as much. So today we're going to be
Speaker 1: doing a little bit of a deep dive on that one.
Speaker 2: I actually didn't really know much about it until we
Speaker 2: had I think it was Timfoil who was it, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Tempoile Tail, Yeah, Timfoil Tales came on and talked about it,
Speaker 2: briefly mentioned it. I made some notes about it, and
Speaker 2: then I started to actually deep dive into it, and
Speaker 2: I can't believe how many people have gone down and
Speaker 2: planes have gone down compared to the Bermuda Triangle. I
Speaker 2: think to date there's like maybe twenty one hundred. I
Speaker 2: actually believe it's less. Have people have gone missing in
Speaker 2: the Bermuda Triangle compared to the Alaskan Triangle that has
Speaker 2: twenty thousand people have gone missing since the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 1: And there's a level of acceptance that I could give
Speaker 1: to that, at least on the onset before we get
Speaker 1: into the thick of it. Okay, so a lot of
Speaker 1: travel in Alaska happens by bush plane. Bush planes are
Speaker 1: known to not be the most reliable modes of transportation, right,
Speaker 1: It's basically a law more stuff to the front of
Speaker 1: something with wings, so something kind of throwing it off
Speaker 1: and it going down. Okay, this checks out to me.
Speaker 1: I understand Alaska has crazy weather surges. It is basically
Speaker 1: winter there all year round except for the one week
Speaker 1: of summer. They get to like certain aspects of that
Speaker 1: out like from the outside looking in. Okay, yeah, sure
Speaker 1: that checks out. But when we get to the stories
Speaker 1: that we're going to be talking about here today, military flights,
Speaker 1: sitting congressmen and House leaders that go down never to
Speaker 1: be found again, alien resonances, magnets, vortex is all these
Speaker 1: things that tie into the Alaskan triangle. Yeah, no, we're
Speaker 1: getting into the realm of clearly something. There's too many
Speaker 1: red flags on the play.
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of the planes that actually have gone
Speaker 2: down are large aircrafts, military aircrafts. They aren't just bush planes.
Speaker 2: They're actually quite large aircrafts that really shouldn't be going
Speaker 2: down but yet have gone down. And there's a lot
Speaker 2: of unexplained situations and the government clearly is covering up
Speaker 2: a lot of things and don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 2: Because when some of these things were trying to be
Speaker 2: investigated or reopened, the government straight up told one of
Speaker 2: the FBI agents, look, just leave it where it is
Speaker 2: and just walk away, don't go into it, don't look
Speaker 2: at it. Told the local police. Yet, no, we're not
Speaker 2: going to touch this, and you're just going to ignore
Speaker 2: this ever even happened. So it's quite an interesting situation
Speaker 2: going on up there. There's a lot of theories as
Speaker 2: to what could be happening. You know, is it big
Speaker 2: time aliens? I mean, there's been over one thousand UFO
Speaker 2: sightings reported since nineteen fifty to twenty twenty five. And
Speaker 2: that's and quite a few of those have actually been
Speaker 2: from people on Air Force Bass too, and not just
Speaker 2: like some you know, private Joschmo. No, they're like lieutenant
Speaker 2: colonels that are reporting this.
Speaker 1: So and that ties into what we talked about in
Speaker 1: a previous episode about how how many air Force bases
Speaker 1: have these UFO sidings. I'll be honest with you, and
Speaker 1: I don't know this as some sort of a matter
Speaker 1: of fact. I haven't heard of many Marine Corps bases
Speaker 1: that had a bunch of UFO sidings. I mean, possibly
Speaker 1: a drunk marine second one was back patio seeing some
Speaker 1: shit that ain't there for sure, There's that seems to
Speaker 1: be a going trend that Joint Force Bass slash Air
Speaker 1: Force bases have a lot of UFO sidings around them,
Speaker 1: like on Mass Well.
Speaker 2: I mean, do you think it has to do with
Speaker 2: the equipment potentially that they have for the Air Force
Speaker 2: that they're using. Maybe they're some kind of I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe the sonar radio like sonars are sending out, or
Speaker 2: some type of signal they're sending out or whatever it
Speaker 2: is the energy wise that they're using potentially could be
Speaker 2: drawing in the UFOs. Whatever it is that they're doing
Speaker 2: per the air Force, maybe that's something that they've created
Speaker 2: that's causing them to be drawn in as a hub,
Speaker 2: Like they're coming to check out how strong our forces are,
Speaker 2: what kind of planes they we have? How you know,
Speaker 2: what is our equipment? How fast can it travel? What
Speaker 2: are they doing? Like it would make sense to me logically,
Speaker 2: like the Marine Corps bases don't have that, and so
Speaker 2: it would makes sense to me that they would go
Speaker 2: and they would hub around our aircrafts, especially if they're
Speaker 2: using aircrafts to potentially one day attack US.
Speaker 1: Raven I believe that very thing. So and to your
Speaker 1: point that most of your Marine Corps basic camp dot
Speaker 1: dot dot name name, the camp name doesn't matter. We're
Speaker 1: not sending out certain signals, we're not testing certain new aircraft.
Speaker 2: Binding me maybe Camp Pilloton, you know, because it's quite large,
Speaker 2: Like I could see some some bases having that.
Speaker 1: But if we were, if you were to tell me
Speaker 1: there was a wing base, if you were to tell
Speaker 1: me Cherry Point or Mira Mare had some sort of
Speaker 1: a you know, a UFO sighting. Okay, I might believe
Speaker 1: that I haven't heard of any. A good old Camp
Speaker 1: La June coming out there and being like, yeah, so
Speaker 1: no idea, I haven't heard any. There may be some,
Speaker 1: There may be some, but predominantly we hear of UFO sightings,
Speaker 1: ORB sightings, whatever the hell you want to call them,
Speaker 1: around air Force bases. I believe it is specifically because
Speaker 1: of what you just said, and if we're talking decades back, yeah,
Speaker 1: some of that could be because the Air Force was
Speaker 1: testing some sort of a new flight platform and the
Speaker 1: local civilian population didn't know what that would look like
Speaker 1: in the night sky or in the daytime, so they
Speaker 1: would call it in as some sort of a UFO
Speaker 1: or UAP. That makes sense to me.
Speaker 2: I could understand that. But you're talking about tons of pilot's,
Speaker 2: tons of higher up officials that know what's going on
Speaker 2: are the ones reporting that they have to make a report.
Speaker 2: So I think that there is a least for me
Speaker 2: in a strategic kind of planning. If you're going to
Speaker 2: plan a war attack, you'd want to know what you're
Speaker 2: up against. So if you want to see what's going on,
Speaker 2: you're going to go to where your fight The fight's
Speaker 2: going to be in air. It's not going to be
Speaker 2: on the ground, So they need to see what we're
Speaker 2: doing and testing the limits and seeing how you know. Okay,
Speaker 2: so if we get them to follow us, how fast
Speaker 2: can we go? And how fast can they go? Can
Speaker 2: they track us? Okay? But what can they do about it?
Speaker 2: What type of missile systems do they have? Can they
Speaker 2: actually shoot us out of the air? What do you know?
Speaker 1: And adversely, do we have any weapons that can hurt them? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be like the health fire missile the help
Speaker 1: that hit that orb out off the coast of California
Speaker 1: that did nothing to it. Yeah, it's I mean a
Speaker 1: couple of pieces off, but they all took off in
Speaker 1: the same direction.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it makes sense. You're poking at something,
Speaker 2: you're testing it, You're trying to see the strength of
Speaker 2: it before you decide to make an ultimate attack. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's why I've always thought that they've attacked, or the
Speaker 2: attack they've gone to the air force bases, because it
Speaker 2: makes logically sense when in warfare that's what you do.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, actually, when we were where we're going to start
Speaker 2: brings up war games between Canada and the United states.
Speaker 2: This actually happens around the exact same time they decided
Speaker 2: to do their little wargames situation.
Speaker 1: Which wargames happen every single year. Sometimes they are one
Speaker 1: strategic battalion will decide to conduct war games, and sometimes
Speaker 1: it'll be a co op, sometimes it'll be a joint force.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it will be even a coalition between multiple countries.
Speaker 1: This is nothing new, This is nothing obscene, all within
Speaker 1: the realms of acceptable behavior on any given Sunday. Fine,
Speaker 1: that's cool. However, when this happened, all of the people,
Speaker 1: all the players just so happened to be in place
Speaker 1: to go on a mass search. And then you couple
Speaker 1: that with the broken Arrow situation that happened just a
Speaker 1: few weeks later. It's almost like they knew that that
Speaker 1: was going to take place, and they were using this
Speaker 1: as very similar to where, well, we knew we were
Speaker 1: going to go to Iraq, but we had to get
Speaker 1: our forces in Afghanistan first. We had to make something
Speaker 1: seem like it was a big deal to get us
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Speaker 1: into it. All right, So this first article is from
Speaker 1: honor bound dot org. Honored Bound. I do like the website,
Speaker 1: but anyway, Raven, give us the spiel.
Speaker 2: All right, So we are going to start off. So
Speaker 2: the triangle stretches from Juno to Anchorage to Borrow Barrow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're from Alaska. Yeah, we don't know how
Speaker 1: to pronounce this. Where is it barrow like a wheelbarrow?
Speaker 1: Is it borrow? I don't know, but that city.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it stretches quite a large amount of space,
Speaker 2: anywhere between five hundred to two thousand people go missing
Speaker 2: every year. Hundreds of rescue missions are conducted, with most
Speaker 2: of them never finding people or any part any evidence whatsoever.
Speaker 1: And I can understand that in a certain regard, Alaskan
Speaker 1: wilderness is for the most part untapped wilderness where if
Speaker 1: you get lost, you get hurt, you break your ankle,
Speaker 1: nobody's coming to get you. They don't know where you are.
Speaker 1: In a certain regards, some of those people I could
Speaker 1: understand fifty.
Speaker 2: But you're talking about like it's the average is roughly
Speaker 2: about nine hundred a year.
Speaker 1: Yea's too much.
Speaker 2: So you're thinking nine hundred people plus planes consistently going
Speaker 2: down too Yes, so, but you're not finding any evidence.
Speaker 2: Like some of the big crashes with the massive planes,
Speaker 2: they didn't even find so much as a single scrap
Speaker 2: of a metal shoe or a shoe or anything period
Speaker 2: at all. Period. And it wasn't like it was just
Speaker 2: like one person that was trying to find something. It
Speaker 2: was thousands of people actually doing a joint operation to
Speaker 2: find some of these big aircrafts.
Speaker 1: Teams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there was nothing.
Speaker 1: That's at all a random person. How many people have
Speaker 1: you heard say, you know what, fuck it, I'll go
Speaker 1: live in the cabin in the woods, and then where
Speaker 1: would you go to do that? Untapped by human and
Speaker 1: all from the distance. In Alaska.
Speaker 2: I actually been actually looked into living in Alaska. I
Speaker 2: have friends that moved to Alaska that I've lived there
Speaker 2: for Oh my god, over a decade, I think.
Speaker 1: And I got nothing against these people. But my point is,
Speaker 1: if you go out there, you try building you a
Speaker 1: log cabin, you get snowed in in a certain winter
Speaker 1: when you really didn't know what you were stepping off into,
Speaker 1: and now you're in trouble and nobody's coming to get you.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying. There's a certain number that
Speaker 1: I could see as acceptable or at least understandable as
Speaker 1: far as people get lost in Alaska. Five hundred to
Speaker 1: two thousand a year. No, there's something extra going on.
Speaker 2: And then there was a pattern for I read different reports,
Speaker 2: so I don't want to like misspeak, but it's said
Speaker 2: for over a decade there was a pattern that was
Speaker 2: actually to twelve years. It was every two years, every
Speaker 2: two years, a certain amount of people went missing. It
Speaker 2: was really weird.
Speaker 1: It the same number.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like nine hundred and eighteen people went missing.
Speaker 2: So I tried to find more in it, and I
Speaker 2: only found two sources, one of which was kind of eh.
Speaker 2: The other one seemed more legit, but I also couldn't
Speaker 2: find anything that was credible enough that I wanted to
Speaker 2: confirm sure, But it did state that they were added
Speaker 2: up people every two years. It was a certain amount
Speaker 2: of people that went missing, and it was just kind
Speaker 2: of weird how that happened. But to your point about
Speaker 2: how many how Alaska is So there's thirty three thousand
Speaker 2: miles of coastline, there's three million lakes, Yeah, three million lakes.
Speaker 2: Now the lakes is kind of a thing because when
Speaker 2: it comes to the Douglas, which we're going to talk about,
Speaker 2: which is a plane that went down in nineteen fifty,
Speaker 2: a lot of people said, well, it could have crashed
Speaker 2: into the lakes. That's why we never found it. The
Speaker 2: problem is is the lakes that it was around that
Speaker 2: where it should have gone missing, they're super shallow, and
Speaker 2: in seventy years, it should have came up that there
Speaker 2: was a single piece of evidence period that this went
Speaker 2: down anywhere.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing you especially because it's a military craft,
Speaker 1: you know the flight path yea even if it was
Speaker 1: to take a weird deviation, it's not gonna take a
Speaker 1: fifty mile detour, you know what I mean. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be within some sort of a left and right lateral
Speaker 1: limit of where it was supposed to be. They've checked
Speaker 1: these lakes, they've found nothing.
Speaker 2: They checked a lot of things and they've found absolutely
Speaker 2: nothing for this.
Speaker 1: And talk about the search that they did. Trust me,
Speaker 1: it's it's extensive. We're gonna thousands, thousands of service members.
Speaker 2: That that was another plane that went down. Actually that
Speaker 2: was what the congressman, and that was in nineteen seventy two.
Speaker 1: But it's started with the Douglas. They did all these things,
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna get to it all. We're gonna
Speaker 1: we're jumping to have ourselves anyway.
Speaker 2: So the story begins on January twenty fifth, nineteen fifty
Speaker 2: during the height of the Cold War, both parties were
Speaker 2: super nervous obviously about dropping nuclear bombs. This is important
Speaker 2: because the nuclear bomb will come.
Speaker 1: Up and you say it like that nuclear or nuclear nuclear,
Speaker 1: you say nuclear nuclear. I've heard it both ways. I'm
Speaker 1: not shitting on you. I've myself, I think I've pronounced
Speaker 1: it both ways. I just didn't. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you've ever heard you say that soncular bomb.
Speaker 2: Nuclear bomb. Okay, all right, So leading up to the
Speaker 2: Douglas airplane disappearance, there was UFO sightings three days prior
Speaker 2: in Kodiak and in two days after the after the
Speaker 2: plane went down at the Air air Force Base l
Speaker 2: mendar Mandor. I don't know. I can't say that name
Speaker 2: was seen my life, but that's where the Douglas actually
Speaker 2: took off. So we're gonna put a pin in that
Speaker 2: situation for later because it will be brought up again.
Speaker 2: But I thought it was really interesting that three days.
Speaker 2: So one when we actually listen to the thing, they
Speaker 2: say four days, but I read four different articles that
Speaker 2: said three days, which doesn't really matter. But in retrospective,
Speaker 2: they were also planning the war games, so the war
Speaker 2: games were going to kick off here during this time
Speaker 2: when the Douglas happened. So there was an interesting thing
Speaker 2: about the exercise.
Speaker 3: Sweet Bear, Adam, the Sweet Bear exercise, the exercise Sweet Bear,
Speaker 3: so that got brought up into this whole thing as well.
Speaker 2: And it's a training exercise that was conducted in the
Speaker 2: Arctic during the Cold War, involved the US and Canadian
Speaker 2: forces to test their ability to conduct warfare and extreme
Speaker 2: weather conditions.
Speaker 1: So that's the gay share of my life.
Speaker 2: So that's why they were having this war game, was
Speaker 2: to continue this exercise. Sweet Bear bear.
Speaker 1: Where you see it type? Now that's sweet bear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sweet bear yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, so real quick, oh man? All right? First of all,
Speaker 1: keep in mind Canada was prolific with their war crimes
Speaker 1: and crimes against humanity in World War Two, wrapped up
Speaker 1: in nineteen forty five. This is nineteen fifty. We are
Speaker 1: a few years removed from that. A lot of the
Speaker 1: dudes they are still serving still have like real Nazi
Speaker 1: blood on their hands for doing some heinous shit that
Speaker 1: even objectively is wrong. Okay. So like the Canadians were
Speaker 1: not the pushovers that everybody thinks of them as today.
Speaker 1: Let's just keep that in mind. So we got to
Speaker 1: co op with the Canadians and the US to do
Speaker 1: some sort of a you know, a training mission, a
Speaker 1: war game type of thing, and they name it sweet Bear,
Speaker 1: which is objectively one of the gayest names for a
Speaker 1: military operation I've ever heard of my goddamn life. But okay,
Speaker 1: I could side step it. I could side step it. Fun.
Speaker 2: Yes. So so now we're going to get into the
Speaker 2: article that talks about the Douglas SEE fifty four Skymaster
Speaker 2: that went missing on January twenty sixth. Operation Mike is
Speaker 2: the operation that they launched two find said plane, and they.
Speaker 1: Named Operation Mike for one of the service members that
Speaker 1: went missing. Let's get into.
Speaker 2: These are all the passengers that they had, so for
Speaker 2: those of you that are are looking, this actually gives
Speaker 2: the list of the passengers and the crew that went
Speaker 2: missing on this plane. It was really sad though, because
Speaker 2: this lady there's a lady in an infant that went
Speaker 2: missing on this plane as well.
Speaker 1: So real quick, I'm not going to read the whole
Speaker 1: list of passengers because it's pretty extensive, but if anybody
Speaker 1: is curious the Douglas C fifty four Skymaster, the crew anyway,
Speaker 1: Kyle E. Mcmichaelson, which is the name for this operation,
Speaker 1: Operation Mike, is to find him. First Lieutenant Kyle mcmichaelson, instructor,
Speaker 1: pilot and mission commander, First Lieutenant Mike Tissick, who is
Speaker 1: a pilot. Major Gerald F. Brittaine co pilot, First Lieutenant
Speaker 1: Joseph W. Metzler navigator, staff Sergeant Clarence A. Gibson, Radio operator,
Speaker 1: Master Sergeant Clyde A. Streidman streatman, not sure, Flight engineer,
Speaker 1: Tech Sergeant Harry W. Mc mcconnag Gill mcconnagly excuse me,
Speaker 1: flight engineer, and staff Sergeant Raymond H. Snow who was
Speaker 1: a flight engineer. That was the crew. The passenger list
Speaker 1: is more extensive. We're not going to get into all
Speaker 1: of it. However, Yes, Missus Joyce M. Esp and Victor E.
Speaker 1: Esp was the mother an infant child that was also
Speaker 1: on this flight. That has there's never been anywhereabouts discovered
Speaker 1: about them or any of the members of this flight
Speaker 1: or the passengers. Nope, So let's get into it here.
Speaker 1: On the twenty sixth of January nineteen fifty the Douglas
Speaker 1: CEE fifty four Skymaster, not going to give all the
Speaker 1: designations on that because it's a lot disappeared going from
Speaker 1: Alaska to Montana with forty four people aboard. The aircraft
Speaker 1: made its last radio contact two hours into the eight
Speaker 1: hour flight. Despite one of the largest rescue efforts carried
Speaker 1: out by the US military, no trace of the aircraft
Speaker 1: excuse me, aircraft has ever been found. It is considered
Speaker 1: one of the largest groups of American military personnel to
Speaker 1: ever go missing. WOW continuing on an hour after it
Speaker 1: failed to arrive in Montana, Operation Mike, name for the
Speaker 1: aircraft Commander, First Lieutenant Kyle M. Mcmichaelson was launched, a
Speaker 1: search and rescue program combining as many as eighty five
Speaker 1: American and Canadian planes in addition to seven thousand personnel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, seven thousand people. Because they stopped the wargame, so
Speaker 2: it kicked off and they just started and then they
Speaker 2: actually canceled it. So the plane itself, and I don't
Speaker 2: think they get into more detail on this, but the
Speaker 2: plane itself had an issue, an issue with its engine,
Speaker 2: so they took off later than expected. They took off
Speaker 2: at one PM and the sky was it was a
Speaker 2: negative twenty five degrees, but it was a beautiful clear
Speaker 2: sky out and it was said that the there was
Speaker 2: no bad weather conditions whatsoever when this plane took off.
Speaker 1: Is negative twenty five degrees Did you mean no negative
Speaker 1: weather conditions?
Speaker 2: There was no like, it was not freezing, there was
Speaker 2: no snow, meant in the sense of that it's not snowing,
Speaker 2: it's not raining. There are no clouds. It was supposed to.
Speaker 2: It was supposedly a very beautiful day, and I actually
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that it didn't break down more of
Speaker 2: the information about the plane situation itself.
Speaker 1: But it might as the article goes on.
Speaker 2: But it does. So they they radoed in one hour
Speaker 2: into their flight. They were supposed to radio in again,
Speaker 2: and nothing happened, and so after several hours, that's when
Speaker 2: they decided that something obviously had gone wrong because it
Speaker 2: was supposed to be It was like maybe something happened,
Speaker 2: but they also't couldn't track it any longer. It just
Speaker 2: kind of disappeared out of thin air.
Speaker 1: So it was supposed to be an eight hour flight.
Speaker 1: They radioed in, the last time they heard from them
Speaker 1: was two hours into this eight hour flight, and an
Speaker 1: hour after they were supposed to land is when they
Speaker 1: actually launched the search. So there was a lag time
Speaker 1: of about seven hours, give or take from the last
Speaker 1: radio contact to when the search was actually instigated. So
Speaker 1: we don't know, beyond any shadow of a doubt when
Speaker 1: the plane actually went down. There is a window that
Speaker 1: we can work within, right, and there is a direction
Speaker 1: they were head. There was no detours, there was no
Speaker 1: emergency stops.
Speaker 2: If there was, there was no distress sagules sent out. Right,
Speaker 2: So it's between these two stops that they were supposed
Speaker 2: to actually sing the before they got to the end, right,
Speaker 2: there was I forget what it's called. It's like Scotch, scott.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to say it. It's a weird name.
Speaker 2: It's like skag something, Scaggsville.
Speaker 1: No, I'm I'm joking, I'm okay, yeah. But my point
Speaker 1: is though, all right, so going from Alaska to Minnesota,
Speaker 1: there is a straight line that they're gonna take, especially
Speaker 1: if it's a military aircraft. They're not gonna make a
Speaker 1: random a layover stop in Denver, right, They're not making
Speaker 1: a layover in Atlanta. It's a straight shot. And we
Speaker 1: have seven hours, give or take where we don't know
Speaker 1: exactly when things went tits up, but we know for
Speaker 1: sure that they did.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 1: Continuing on, they launched eighty five planes, seven thousand personnel,
Speaker 1: and they searched three hundred and fifty square miles of
Speaker 1: the Northwest. Now, for those that don't know, the PNW
Speaker 1: is a particularly forested area. It's pretty rough cut. There
Speaker 1: are some towns, there are some cities, don't get me wrong. Yes,
Speaker 1: but it's also a lot of wilderness, and a plane
Speaker 1: going down in the woods leaves a bit of.
Speaker 2: A footprint something anything.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be trees that are cut down, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be smoke, there's going to be something to show that
Speaker 1: something horribly wrong went down here. Right, there was nothing,
Speaker 1: And then like ravenly it said there's lakes. There's so
Speaker 1: many lakes in around Alaska, the Pacific Northwest in general,
Speaker 1: that they.
Speaker 2: That they went into the ocean. But that wasn't that
Speaker 2: wasn't correct. They kind of did a whole bunch of
Speaker 2: different scenarios of when, where and when people could go,
Speaker 2: like where and when the plane could have gone.
Speaker 1: But even that even me and said, for them to
Speaker 1: go down the ocean, they would have had to take
Speaker 1: a dress to detour, because if you're going from Alaska
Speaker 1: to Minnesota, that's pretty much overland the entire way start
Speaker 1: to finish. So perhaps they took a weird curvature route
Speaker 1: or something like this. I just it doesn't make sense
Speaker 1: per the planned flight plat planned flight path rather excuse me,
Speaker 1: and it's not going to make sense as far as
Speaker 1: how this timeline works.
Speaker 2: Out, so they reported in two hours in and snag,
Speaker 2: and they were supposed to report in that snag Yukon,
Speaker 2: where the pilot reported that the plane was on schedule
Speaker 2: with no issues and reported except for ice on the wings. However,
Speaker 2: the flight never checked back in and the second destination
Speaker 2: in oh Man, that's a that's a name, a Shahik, yeah,
Speaker 2: a sheihik chihik Yukon, I was never it never was
Speaker 2: heard from again. So they said that pretty much everything
Speaker 2: was good to go and then just disappeared in the
Speaker 2: middle and just nothing happened from there.
Speaker 1: And then also seven thousand personnel. Now they were already
Speaker 1: standing by to conduct these war games. It's not like
Speaker 1: they had to call up preserves from you know, Kentucky
Speaker 1: to go up to Alaska to make this search happen.
Speaker 1: These soldiers and airmen were already on standbot well, I
Speaker 1: guess at this point it wouldn't be airmen that didn't
Speaker 1: get creaate till later. But my point is these military
Speaker 1: personnel were already standing by to conduct wargames with Canada
Speaker 1: in a co op situation. Right then the emission parameters
Speaker 1: got shifted and now everybody's on the search. So seven
Speaker 1: thousand we're talking, how many battalions would that be. I
Speaker 1: want to say a battalion is at least two thousand
Speaker 1: over too, battalions worth and eighty five aircraft all searts
Speaker 1: in the skies for some sort of an intel land
Speaker 1: troops doing straight up touching fingers and hands across America
Speaker 1: to try to find any kind of a sign that
Speaker 1: something went down here. Nothing, but let's continue on here.
Speaker 1: This was aided by the fact that soldiers and equipment
Speaker 1: had already been ferried north for the upcoming exercise. Sweetbriar, Sweetbriar, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just saw.
Speaker 2: I just saw. I spelled it wrong because on the
Speaker 2: other thing it said sweet bear, and I was like,
Speaker 2: this does not seem right.
Speaker 1: Even so, Sweetbriar, we got we got Patrick Thorns.
Speaker 2: That's a little sweet little sweet o peace.
Speaker 1: I still get a joint Canada US war game scenario
Speaker 1: continuance of the Operation co Confounded searchers giving many false
Speaker 1: positive reports of smoke signals, garble communications and sightings of
Speaker 1: quote unquote survivors on the thirtieth of January see forty
Speaker 1: seven Air Force zero number forty five tech is one
Speaker 1: zero one five from The fifty seventh fighter wing that
Speaker 1: had been participating in the search, stalled and crashed in
Speaker 1: the mcclontic Mountains McClintock Mountains, excuse me, near Whitehorse. Its
Speaker 1: crew members were injured, but there were no fatalities. The
Speaker 1: pilot walked thirteen kilometers to the Alaska Highway and flag
Speaker 1: down a truck to call support for his five to
Speaker 1: eight crewmates. I don't like how they said five to eight.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Did they just estimate, like they're five
Speaker 2: to eight? Like, did you gain somebody? Did you? Is
Speaker 2: there half of the body? What do you mean there's eight?
Speaker 1: That's that's less than a squad. You're telling me that
Speaker 1: the pilot doesn't know exactly how many people are on
Speaker 1: the plane with him. Brah, No, it might have been.
Speaker 2: It might have been I don't know, some random ask people.
Speaker 2: It's funny because I'm holding an article that also says
Speaker 2: the same thing that says five to eight.
Speaker 1: That's kind of fucked.
Speaker 2: I'm like, how do you not know how many people?
Speaker 2: It's not like you have a ship to the people
Speaker 2: on there.
Speaker 3: Oh wait a minute though, Wait a minute though, the
Speaker 3: baby sasquatches.
Speaker 2: No even what the fuck now they're gonna come up.
Speaker 1: I wonder if this officer pencil whipped it the flight logs,
Speaker 1: like they're in Alaska. You got one of his boys,
Speaker 1: that's like from Florida. He's catching him some fucking Alaska poon.
Speaker 1: He's over here trying to like he's over play some
Speaker 1: of that up northern snow bunny vibes, and he's like,
Speaker 1: all right, bro, I'm gonna write you down, but you're
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna catch me back on the next one, right,
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, yes, sir, I got you. I got you. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: he wrote down to like he's got all eight crew members.
Speaker 1: In reality, he might have had six. That's why he's like,
Speaker 1: we have five to eight people that need to be
Speaker 1: rescued within the realm.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe a couple of them were injured enough to
Speaker 2: where he was like, man, they're gonna die. So we
Speaker 2: got five?
Speaker 1: Or did old boy go out and get him some
Speaker 1: Alaska strange and get him a battle buddy, because you
Speaker 1: have to bring a battle buddy with you, Raven.
Speaker 2: Of course, of course that's what we're going to, you know, for.
Speaker 1: The good old up Northern Eifel Tower. I don't know
Speaker 1: I don't know, but my point is, my point is
Speaker 1: what are the odds of this officer was like I
Speaker 1: don't know the whereabouts they might die, or like we
Speaker 1: totally have eight in our crew, and I need that
Speaker 1: to go on record. But I also don't want to
Speaker 1: lie because obviously an investigation is going to go down
Speaker 1: because I lost my fucking plane. So like five to
Speaker 1: eight sounds like a good politically correct answer to the
Speaker 1: questions that are being asked to me at this time.
Speaker 1: Thank you for asking. Okay, am I wrong? Real shit?
Speaker 1: Can you can? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: I don't think that during when a plane just disappeared,
Speaker 2: a big enough plane.
Speaker 1: But there were up the four teams, you know what,
Speaker 1: nobody was taking it serious until it had to be
Speaker 1: taken serious.
Speaker 2: The planet already went down, and it's already been scheduled.
Speaker 2: The plane went down on the February second, the plane
Speaker 2: went down on the sixth.
Speaker 1: Reported yep, So it went down the thirtieth, and the
Speaker 1: plane went down on the twenty six. You see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Four days, four days people were already you're.
Speaker 1: Telling me you've never met a military member to go
Speaker 1: on a four day bender. I don't know this. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just I'm trying here.
Speaker 2: We're going to get Yeah, we're gonna get back to
Speaker 2: the I don't know why they have five d Maybe
Speaker 2: it's a you know, some aliens.
Speaker 1: There could be.
Speaker 2: Maybe they're half people.
Speaker 1: Maybe the Alaskan Sam squantch got a halt to me.
Speaker 1: He's like, bro, I'm be honest with you. We heard
Speaker 1: some weird growls. I know we had eight on the plane.
Speaker 1: By the time we get there, there may only be five.
Speaker 1: So it was like, so, sir, five to eight, yep,
Speaker 1: write that shit down. We're good.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: It could be both. It could be either, could be both.
Speaker 2: Who knows it would be both anyway. So on the.
Speaker 1: Second of February, it was reported that two planes and
Speaker 1: two radio stations in the Yukon area had heard unintelligible
Speaker 1: radio signals, but attempts to quote unquote fix the position
Speaker 1: were fruitless. By fix the position, they mean pinpoint the
Speaker 1: location to these radio signals.
Speaker 2: But they couldn't.
Speaker 1: Though that's they could not. Likewise, an isolated settler had
Speaker 1: reported seeing a large plane over his cabin at Beaver
Speaker 1: Lake in Interior of British Columbia, located five hundred miles
Speaker 1: south of the Yukon boundary, two hundred and fifty miles
Speaker 1: north of Vancouver, and two hundred miles west of the
Speaker 1: Alaskan Highway air route.
Speaker 2: So about this, we're actually gonna hear somebody talk on this,
Speaker 2: I think the radio communications. I believe it's one of
Speaker 2: the videos. But pretty much what a lot of people
Speaker 2: think is that the information that was given was pretty
Speaker 2: much they could hear different sounds, they couldn't triangulate it.
Speaker 2: It was all over. It was scattered, yeah, And what
Speaker 2: they think is is that the plane entered into a
Speaker 2: vortex or another dimension, and that what they were picking
Speaker 2: up was actually like the way that it started out
Speaker 2: was stronger where they could hear it more. It sounded
Speaker 2: human like, they sounded like they were talking like. And
Speaker 2: then it gradually over days became fainter and fainter and
Speaker 2: fainter to the and it just disappeared. And they believe
Speaker 2: one of the theories is is that they actually ended
Speaker 2: up in the vortex itself into another dimension, and what
Speaker 2: they were hearing is is the in between noise. Pretty much,
Speaker 2: So if you think about stranger Things the upside down
Speaker 2: pretty much. Yeah, well we have to in honor of
Speaker 2: Stranger Things coming out with the last season.
Speaker 1: This is the last season.
Speaker 2: This is the last episodes that just came out.
Speaker 1: Thank god.
Speaker 2: So okay, rude, it's a fantastic show, sure, but they
Speaker 2: they think that potentially there was a guy that is
Speaker 2: in all the I forget what his name is, that
Speaker 2: we saw him. There's a there's a man that's been
Speaker 2: doing this for decades that says, like his theory is
Speaker 2: is that pretty much it's like a jarbled mess. But
Speaker 2: they can actually we're coinciding dimensions on the same plane
Speaker 2: at the same time, and that because of how radio
Speaker 2: weaves infrequencies move between fluids, which is true that we're
Speaker 2: hearing the other side, but we can't quite make out
Speaker 2: what's going on. So a lot of people think that
Speaker 2: they're actually there and they were trying to find them,
Speaker 2: and they were hearing the pings and signals of them,
Speaker 2: but we just couldn't get to the other side of
Speaker 2: where they were, and so for days they were trying
Speaker 2: and then either the signal faded away or the dimension shifted,
Speaker 2: or they perished.
Speaker 1: So we're going to get into a couple of different
Speaker 1: theories as far as the Douglas aircraft is concerned. But
Speaker 1: it's kind of been washed up or covered up, i
Speaker 1: should say, by a quote unquote bigger event that took
Speaker 1: place around that same timeframe that clearly stole the show.
Speaker 1: Some might say that this was a part of the
Speaker 1: plan and that it was a false flag. Some might
Speaker 1: say that this leads more credence to some things going
Speaker 1: on in the Alaskan Triangle that the government just won't acknowledge.
Speaker 1: We're going to get to it all anyway. So continuing on,
Speaker 1: on the seventh of February, a C forty seven D
Speaker 1: from Ellison Air Force Base, employed on the search by
Speaker 1: the five five tenth wing, crashed on a mountain slope
Speaker 1: off of escentt Aschik Lake.
Speaker 2: So these all happen in the southern region, by the way,
Speaker 2: so all around where the Douglas was. This is these
Speaker 2: are the search parties that were looking for them. So
Speaker 2: they all happen around each other, and they're the They
Speaker 2: don't even mention the third one, but the third plane
Speaker 2: went down.
Speaker 3: It was by they do the Royal Canadian Air Force.
Speaker 3: Oh there it is, Yeah, sorry, go ahead, So just
Speaker 3: we're all.
Speaker 1: Clear here Again, a random bush plane going down because
Speaker 1: of weather or wind or whatever. I understand the oddball
Speaker 1: military plane going down, especially in nineteen fifty. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like they were messing with the best and latest and
Speaker 1: grace of jet propulsion. Okay, to have four planes go
Speaker 1: down in three days, within three days of each other,
Speaker 1: all around the same like five mile diameter, now we're
Speaker 1: having a different conversation at this time. So anyway, continuing here,
Speaker 1: the wing of the five hundred or five tenth wing
Speaker 1: crashed on a mountain slope in the Ashihik Lake. There
Speaker 1: were ten crew on board, but there were no fatalities,
Speaker 1: so the plane went down with the C forty seven
Speaker 1: d nobody died. On the sixteenth of February, a Royal
Speaker 1: Canadian Air Force SEE forty seven crashed near Snag Again.
Speaker 1: It's four crew members sustained only light injuries. Later, its
Speaker 1: records would be temporarily mistaking for the missing Sea fifty four.
Speaker 2: So if you look at the dates, so they're not
Speaker 2: four days apart, but I found so many things saying
Speaker 2: that there was four planes that went down in three days.
Speaker 1: So well, all right, so this is February seventh, and then.
Speaker 2: Seventeen, sixteenthirteenth, in the thirtieth, so technically not. I just
Speaker 2: wanted to correct ourselves because that's a lot of the
Speaker 2: lingos saying that's four days.
Speaker 1: But within a month, even to say if four planes
Speaker 1: all went down within the same AO within a month
Speaker 1: because of weather and that that's a bit of an anomaly,
Speaker 1: I would think.
Speaker 2: And then and then the last one, the big one,
Speaker 2: the big one.
Speaker 1: The operation was indefinitely suspended on the fourteenth of February
Speaker 1: as the search planes were needed to investigate the crash
Speaker 1: of a B thirty six that had been carrying and
Speaker 1: had dropped a fat man typed nuclear weapon, though the
Speaker 1: core of the weapon in this case was.
Speaker 2: Led all right, except the entire thing that held the
Speaker 2: bomb in it, you know that like arm little claw
Speaker 2: when it got investigated in the two thousands. It's completely intact. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it never actually dropped the bomb. The bomb is
Speaker 2: just gone.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about this. Could cult members all right,
Speaker 1: this would be what in America we consider a broken arrow.
Speaker 1: And this is the first instance of a broken arrow
Speaker 1: that we have on record. If I'm not mistaken, mm.
Speaker 2: Hmm, it is. It's the first one that's been on
Speaker 2: that was reported on record.
Speaker 1: So whenever we hear the term broken arrow, some of
Speaker 1: you who might be into war movies might think back
Speaker 1: to we were soldiers, right, Oh, Mellie Gibson and the boys,
Speaker 1: Little Sam Elliott and the boys doing some things in Vietnam,
Speaker 1: even though you're watching the movie and there's pine trees
Speaker 1: and this is clearly California, but like whatever, we're here
Speaker 1: for the movie, not for the critiques, right, And he
Speaker 1: gets on the radio and calls a broken arrow whenever
Speaker 1: they're so surrounded that they have to call all air strikes,
Speaker 1: all artillery to their literally surrounding their AO because they're
Speaker 1: about to be overrun. That's a thing, absolutely a thing
Speaker 1: when we talk about broken arrows, not in the movie since,
Speaker 1: but in the actual historical and military documents. Since what
Speaker 1: we are talking about is an instance where America lost
Speaker 1: a nuclear.
Speaker 2: Warhead, we're gonna we have an article to get into it,
Speaker 2: this one in particular.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's it's wild that it's happened as many times
Speaker 1: as it has.
Speaker 2: Twenty three I think thirty two, thirty two thirty two times.
Speaker 2: That this is backwards.
Speaker 1: We just like lost a nuke or accidentally dropped a
Speaker 1: nuke on ourselves, which has happened way more times than
Speaker 1: you would think. Oops, just a big old whoopsie daisy.
Speaker 1: And this was the first one, and we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about some more of those here in a bit.
Speaker 1: But anyway, on screen right now, we have a clip
Speaker 1: from the Travel Channel talking about missing aircrafts and flying
Speaker 1: objects the Alaskan Triumph.
Speaker 2: So this ties into the Douglas and it talks just
Speaker 2: about some of the stuff that's gone on with it.
Speaker 1: Us get into y'all.
Speaker 5: In two thousand and three, there was a reported siding
Speaker 5: of a whole mass of UFOs in a deserted area
Speaker 5: just two hundred miles south of Fairbanks. Now Jesse has
Speaker 5: found a close link between UFOs and the military.
Speaker 6: Alaska UFOs really kind of started with World War Two
Speaker 6: because we had a couple of sightings over the Bering Sea.
Speaker 6: These were recorded by crewmen on military boats. We had
Speaker 6: all these radar sites and the military used those to
Speaker 6: detect UFOs over Alaska airspace, and then we had waves
Speaker 6: of UFO sidings all over the state.
Speaker 5: One of the most famous was in nineteen eighty six
Speaker 5: when the crew of a Japanese airline flight witnessed two
Speaker 5: UFOs trailed their plane right in the middle of the
Speaker 5: Alaska Triangle. Is there a link with the missing Douglas.
Speaker 5: A top secret intelligence report from February tenth, nineteen fifty
Speaker 5: reveals that UFOs were stalking US naval planes just days
Speaker 5: before the Douglas vanished. The first of these encounters was
Speaker 5: above the Naval air station of Kodiak, only two hundred
Speaker 5: and fifty miles southwest of the Douglas's departure point in Anchorage. Muffon.
Speaker 5: Investigator Jeremy Ray has been analyzing the reports.
Speaker 4: Shortly before the disappearance of the Douglas aircraft that there
Speaker 4: was a Navy pilot that witnessed a UFO. This UFO
Speaker 4: was clocked on radar going eight hundred miles per hour,
Speaker 4: and during that time we didn't have anything that could
Speaker 4: go that fast, so I find it very interesting.
Speaker 5: The plane's radar operator reported the strangest interference he had
Speaker 5: ever seen. The control tower was in a state of panic.
Speaker 5: There should have been no other aircraft in the area. Suddenly,
Speaker 5: the UFO vanished, only to reappear two hours later, trailing
Speaker 5: the Navy plane. It followed the aircraft for some minutes
Speaker 5: before vanishing once more. The Navy chiefs issued a top
Speaker 5: secret report to the highest levels of the US government.
Speaker 5: Journalists and researcher Andrew Goff has been on the trail
Speaker 5: of this report. The nineteen fifties report was so important
Speaker 5: that thirty six copies of the Navy's detailed.
Speaker 7: Analysis was sent to various security agencies such as the FBI,
Speaker 7: the CIA, the Air Force, Intelligence, and even the Department
Speaker 7: of State.
Speaker 5: This document about the Kodiak UFO encounter never saw the
Speaker 5: light of day until the nineteen seventies, when a freedom
Speaker 5: of information request forced the US authorities to release a
Speaker 5: redacted version.
Speaker 8: This strikes me as yet another government cover up. They
Speaker 8: know what's going on, and they are not going to
Speaker 8: let the public know because they are afraid that they
Speaker 8: won't be able to handle it.
Speaker 5: The Kodiak encounter happened just four days before the Douglas disappeared.
Speaker 5: Two days after the disappearance came another sighting, and this
Speaker 5: one takes us right back to Elmendorf.
Speaker 4: There was a report of a UFO above Elmendorf Air
Speaker 4: Force Base. And what's really interesting about this is that
Speaker 4: that's the same air Force base that the Douglas aircraft
Speaker 4: flew out of.
Speaker 5: An Elmendorf commander spotted three orange objects above the airbase.
Speaker 5: They hovered at around twenty five thousand feet, then they
Speaker 5: mysteriously vanished.
Speaker 7: Now a lieutenant colonel of all people sees something so bizarre,
Speaker 7: so unusual, that he has to file an unidentified flying
Speaker 7: object report, that must have been something really weird.
Speaker 5: There are some who do now believe that the Douglas
Speaker 5: could have been taken by a UFO. Jeremy Ray thinks
Speaker 5: the answer could lie in the use of a tractor beam,
Speaker 5: a super strong energy beam which can pull anything else
Speaker 5: towards it.
Speaker 4: It is possible that the Douglas could have been controlled
Speaker 4: by a UFO, maybe pulled in by a tractor being
Speaker 4: That is kind of possible due to all the reports
Speaker 4: that we've heard about of pilots reporting UFOs taking control
Speaker 4: of the aircraft's.
Speaker 5: In nineteen forty eight in Kentucky, in what is known
Speaker 5: as the Mantel incident, a young pilot was killed after
Speaker 5: losing control of his aircraft while pursuing a UFO. In
Speaker 5: nineteen fifty eight in Snack, the very area where the
Speaker 5: Douglas was last recorded, two men out on a moss
Speaker 5: hunt reported a metallic oval UFO hovering above a marsh.
Speaker 5: The theory goes that the C fifty four was overpowered
Speaker 5: by superior technology and that's why the plane's never been found.
Speaker 5: But a few weeks after the Douglas disappeared in Alaska,
Speaker 5: there were strange signs that the plane might'll be out there.
Speaker 2: So a lot to unpack in that thing.
Speaker 6: Lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it kind of like went forward and back
Speaker 2: and forward and back kind of a situation. But the
Speaker 2: fact that they were stalking the stalking the aircrafts beforehand,
Speaker 2: and it was reported and it was released as a
Speaker 2: top secret file. I really believe that the Douglas was
Speaker 2: I think either the I think either aliens took it,
Speaker 2: or I think that there is some type of vortex
Speaker 2: dimensional situation that's going on. So you, in no.
Speaker 1: Way, shape or form, believe that this was possibly a
Speaker 1: just one of those things. As the plane goes down,
Speaker 1: it goes into one of these lakes or into the
Speaker 1: wilderness in some way that we can't find. This is impossible.
Speaker 2: I really don't believe it. With all the search, you're
Speaker 2: talking seven thousand people that search for it on foot,
Speaker 2: they also search for it in the air, and then
Speaker 2: later and then later on it actually so. In twenty twelve,
Speaker 2: the descendants of the missing servicemen started a petition to
Speaker 2: the federal government through the We the People petition system,
Speaker 2: seeking to open the search up for the family for
Speaker 2: the families to find their remains. They actually got denied.
Speaker 2: They were refused to do it because they said that
Speaker 2: they needed a lot more substantial evidence to try and
Speaker 2: reopen this case. What they wanted it to be like,
Speaker 2: way more evidence to suggest why they would do any
Speaker 2: resources whatsoever on one of the largest missing servicemen case possible.
Speaker 1: It's the lack of evidence that would be the reason for.
Speaker 2: This, So the families decided so. In twenty twenty, Andrew
Speaker 2: Grigg was named the director of an upcoming documentary about
Speaker 2: the search for the aircraft called Skymastered Down. The documentary
Speaker 2: was aired in Canada on sixteenth January twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty two, after the relat, a group of
Speaker 2: a group in Whitehorse consisting of a geologist, historian, and
Speaker 2: glacierlogists among others, formed to formed a group to conduct
Speaker 2: and renew search missing aircraft. Drones were used as possible
Speaker 2: for the unaccessible locations. Nothing was found. Really yep, nothing
Speaker 2: was found. Wow, So the government will not touch this
Speaker 2: with a fifty foot pole. They won't open it up
Speaker 2: at all. Ever, Again, they also have had a ton
Speaker 2: of things go on around that area from the nineteen
Speaker 2: fifties and they won't like, they won't cooperate in any way.
Speaker 2: The only reason those two things that were released it
Speaker 2: was because somebody who actually petitioned to get the Freedom
Speaker 2: of Information Act. That's why we even know that the
Speaker 2: aircrafts the UFOs were stalking the aircraft's prior to this
Speaker 2: going down, then finding out that they were actually having
Speaker 2: weird sounds coming and people more than one a piece
Speaker 2: of evidence shows that they actually did receive weird radio
Speaker 2: communications that they couldn't triangulate. They also had UFO sightings afterwards,
Speaker 2: that lieutenant colonel was the one that made the report
Speaker 2: and everything like that. I one hundred percent believe that
Speaker 2: either I believe that they honestly the aliens were involved
Speaker 2: in this in some way, shape or form. There's just
Speaker 2: absolutely no way that big of an aircraft just disappeared
Speaker 2: out of the sky in between flying and there's nothing
Speaker 2: to prove otherwise. And the lakes around it, if you
Speaker 2: actually look at the research, they're too shallow. So there's
Speaker 2: no way that in seventy years something wouldn't have come up.
Speaker 2: Sure something that they've they're looking for stuff. They went
Speaker 2: all over they checked the ocean, they checked the lakes,
Speaker 2: they checked the mountains, They've checked all over the place.
Speaker 2: There's not a single piece of evidence showing that this
Speaker 2: thing ever existed and.
Speaker 1: Just served by its clear here. And I understand, yes,
Speaker 1: it's possible for military officials and officers to lie and
Speaker 1: redact things. I get this, but keep in mind, for
Speaker 1: a lieutenant colonel to falsify report or something like that,
Speaker 1: this is not a low rank as far as officers
Speaker 1: are concerned, Right for a first or second lieutenant to
Speaker 1: kind of write down some stuff that they're not really
Speaker 1: fully aware of what they're looking at. Maybe a captain,
Speaker 1: it's unlikely, but it does happen. Right, a major, No,
Speaker 1: they're they're pretty much on their shit. Major for everybody
Speaker 1: who doesn't know, as far as officers are concerned, is
Speaker 1: a rank that you can retire at, so it's like
Speaker 1: you're you're a part of the click at that point onward,
Speaker 1: Lieutenant colonel, you're one of the boys. You're in the know.
Speaker 1: You're read in on a lot of things, colonel, And
Speaker 1: after that you get into the general ranks. For a
Speaker 1: lieutenant colonel to say there was nothing found, it's not
Speaker 1: like he was, you know, he didn't know what he
Speaker 1: was looking at, or oh well, you know he was
Speaker 1: a lower rank. No, that won't fly. When you get
Speaker 1: to the oak leaves.
Speaker 2: There's a So the video that we were actually watching
Speaker 2: is really interesting. It is quite long, and it goes
Speaker 2: into all different aspects of the Douglas and stuff, and
Speaker 2: I really do what are your thoughts on it? Do
Speaker 2: you believe it was aliens or do you think that
Speaker 2: it was more or less of just you know, went
Speaker 2: down due to a parent bad weather and a clear
Speaker 2: blue sky, and you know, they just happen to not
Speaker 2: find a single piece of crash plane anywhere.
Speaker 1: So, okay, the plane going down because of some possible
Speaker 1: natural or mechanical reasons I could see hypothetically, just okay, okay,
Speaker 1: to hear me out, step one. Okay, crazier shit has happened, fine, Okay,
Speaker 1: four of them going down within the same month, looking
Speaker 1: for this. No, now we're getting way more into This
Speaker 1: is not like a one out of ten shot. This
Speaker 1: is like a one out of a million shot. And no,
Speaker 1: this isn't dumb and dumber where it's like, so you're
Speaker 1: saying there's a chance. Now what I'm saying. There are
Speaker 1: certain reports that you'll find as far as this craft
Speaker 1: is concerned, saying that the wings got iced over and
Speaker 1: that's what made it go down, or this, that and
Speaker 1: the third. Here's the deal that works. If the humidity
Speaker 1: levels are up, if there's clouds in the sky, a
Speaker 1: freezing rain was hidden the plane. It was freezing onto
Speaker 1: the plane's wings and made ice happen, and that's what
Speaker 1: caused it to go down. None of that can be
Speaker 1: said as far as the Douglas is concerned.
Speaker 2: From all accounts that it was a clear bluebird, sunny,
Speaker 2: sunny day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So so what caused it to go down? I
Speaker 1: couldn't tell you. I'm not saying it was or wasn't aliens.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was or wasn't some sort of
Speaker 1: a mechanical failure caused by something very similar to the
Speaker 1: Bermuda triangle. Right, Maybe it was electromagnetic fields, possible electromagnetic fields,
Speaker 1: possibly some sort of a weird radio pulse that fucked
Speaker 1: up the electronics like.
Speaker 2: An EMF pulse. Very possibly potentially, I mean, because the
Speaker 2: Soviets were right there. They were having all their issues
Speaker 2: with the Soviets. It's fifty six so it's fifty six
Speaker 2: miles to the Soviet Union. Yeah, and so when they
Speaker 2: bought a Alaska, they actually set up that's what they
Speaker 2: started to do. So Alaska was the pretty much the
Speaker 2: radar central. So they had every piece of extensive equipment
Speaker 2: that we had at that time set up there at
Speaker 2: that Air Force base.
Speaker 1: Which was what later became HARP. We're going to get
Speaker 1: to that in a bit.
Speaker 2: But so, but every every kind of potential positive or
Speaker 2: you know, I'm trying my lost Manterian thought. Pretty much
Speaker 2: anything that is new and we're using at the time
Speaker 2: for the military to guard and radar and check and
Speaker 2: all the things, it was already there at the base
Speaker 2: and nothing could find this.
Speaker 1: So I don't think it was an EMF by Russia
Speaker 1: because keep in mind or a EMP, I should say,
Speaker 1: we didn't even fully understand that when a nuclear bomb
Speaker 1: goes off, it sets off of EMP because we had
Speaker 1: just developed the Manhattan Project five years prior, well, they
Speaker 1: were talking six years prior to this event.
Speaker 2: You went to the restroom, but it was saying that
Speaker 2: when they did clock the aircraft that it was going
Speaker 2: over one thousand I don't know how Yeah, a thousand knots.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say knots, but I was like, I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's correct, A thousand miles per hour?
Speaker 2: I guess or it was over.
Speaker 1: That look off how much a knot is a miles
Speaker 1: per hour?
Speaker 2: Because I my thing doesn't work. I don't have an Internet.
Speaker 1: I don't actually you know, when you're talking about like
Speaker 1: air speed and boat speed, knots is used a good bit.
Speaker 1: I don't actually know off the top how fast a
Speaker 1: knot is as converted to freedom units. So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't need but either way that goes.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is that I don't think that
Speaker 1: we had the technology to set off an e MP
Speaker 1: and some sort of a directed energy blast at that time.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Russians did either. I do believe
Speaker 1: that the Aliens did well.
Speaker 2: Considering that there's a lot of theories about the alien
Speaker 2: base being there, underneath the mountain, and that there is
Speaker 2: an alien a large alien base in the ocean right off.
Speaker 1: Of that and possibly within the mountains.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what in the mountains. So I don't see
Speaker 2: why it was not. At least the strongest theory pushing
Speaker 2: forward would be that it had something to do with
Speaker 2: the aliens, considering that they've had over a thousand confirmed sightings. Yeah,
Speaker 2: not just like half assed. And it did say when
Speaker 2: I was looking into how many sightings have been within
Speaker 2: the triangle itself, they said that a lot of the
Speaker 2: other sightings because they're so far out, they can't go
Speaker 2: out and verify. But there's believed to be at least
Speaker 2: five thousand more positive sightings. God, but they couldn't verify them.
Speaker 2: These are just a thousand that they verified, so that
Speaker 2: are confirmed.
Speaker 1: A knot is so one knot is one point one
Speaker 1: five miles per hour, so it's just a slight bit
Speaker 1: over a mile per hour or one thousand knots.
Speaker 2: It said it was more than a thousand, but I
Speaker 2: didn't honestly didn't listen to how far.
Speaker 1: So we're talking about over one thousand miles an hour. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm with you, And a clear blue sky. Yes, it
Speaker 1: was rather cold, but these planes had flown in that
Speaker 1: environment more than a few times. Nothing out of the
Speaker 1: ordinary here, and somehow this plane evaporated. There's no wreckords,
Speaker 1: it's just gone ever been discovered. There's no crash site
Speaker 1: ever been discovered. There's no nothing to signify that this
Speaker 1: plane went down, so it had to have gone somewhere.
Speaker 2: Now, so this is all. But this is all before
Speaker 2: stargate and all of that stuff. Yeah, so that isn't
Speaker 2: involving this right now. So this is the first stuff
Speaker 2: that started to be reported from Alaska, which is interesting
Speaker 2: to me because we've owned We owned it since eighteen
Speaker 2: eighteen eighty six, eighteen sixty three.
Speaker 1: I don't actually know when we bought Alaska from Russia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we bought it for like seven mili.
Speaker 1: I know we bought it from Russia, and I know
Speaker 1: that it was a territory for a good long while
Speaker 1: until we discovered that there was enough natural resources there
Speaker 1: to wear it was like, you know what, you're getting
Speaker 1: your own representation became a state, even though the population
Speaker 1: didn't really justify it the same way Hawaii was, but
Speaker 1: that was born for military reason.
Speaker 2: Eighteen sixty seven, Okay, I was, I was kind of close,
Speaker 2: I said, eighteen sixty three. Really, yeah, so.
Speaker 1: The Civil War and we're over here making deals with Russia.
Speaker 2: Yes, so we've owned this land, this strip of land. Yeah,
Speaker 2: for a long time.
Speaker 1: Cassius Clay is the reason why we got Alaska. You
Speaker 1: know who that is?
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 1: Cassius Clay. Who is If you ever heard of the
Speaker 1: box from Muhammad Ali, his actual birth name is Cassius Clay.
Speaker 1: Cassius Clay, for the historical context, was one of the
Speaker 1: most badass politicians we've ever had on earth. Period. He
Speaker 1: got in well over two hundred fist fights. He got
Speaker 1: in over fifty duels, to which he won every single one.
Speaker 1: He's got so many bodies under his belt, it's not
Speaker 1: even funny of arist you know, aristocratic DC guys, so
Speaker 1: much so that they had to finally Abraham Lincoln who
Speaker 1: him then he was like a full blown abolitionist. He
Speaker 1: was one of the only ones in DC to actually
Speaker 1: give a fuck about freeing the slaves. Abe. Lincoln was like, bro,
Speaker 1: I like where you're at. I like what you're saying,
Speaker 1: but your attitude towards it and your methods are so crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you to be the ambassador to Russia.
Speaker 1: And so the reason why we didn't have multiple countries
Speaker 1: get involved with the American Civil War. I know France
Speaker 1: was kind of trying to see about making some deals
Speaker 1: happen with the Confederate States. Britain was kind of seeing
Speaker 1: about it. Cassius Clay told the Czar of Russia that, hey, bro,
Speaker 1: if these dudes touched the American Civil War, Russia's going
Speaker 1: to war with them. I need you to have our
Speaker 1: back on that. So they did. That's why France didn't
Speaker 1: get involved. That's why Russia didn't get involved. That's why
Speaker 1: Prussia did can get involved. Even though all of them
Speaker 1: wanted to get some of that sweet, sweet Southern cotton,
Speaker 1: they all decided unanimously, Hey, we're gonna let America do
Speaker 1: get out amongst America because we don't want to deal
Speaker 1: with the fucking bear to the north. Cassius Clay is
Speaker 1: literally the reason why the Civil War first off played
Speaker 1: out the way that it was, or secondly, why the
Speaker 1: slaves got free, because they'd Lincoln think of a fuck
Speaker 1: about no slaves. That's been well documented historically speaking. So
Speaker 1: then in the middle of all of that cashus Clay
Speaker 1: also made the deal with Alaska happen. I forgot about
Speaker 1: this until it was now brought up.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I looked up when this air Force base
Speaker 2: was built. It was June eighth, nineteen forty officially was
Speaker 2: designated as a military airfield in nineteen forty one, so
Speaker 2: it became an air force base after World War II.
Speaker 2: So who knows what actually has been happening during that
Speaker 2: time between you, at least the nine years until this
Speaker 2: situation happened. We don't know if there was other UFO sightings.
Speaker 2: We don't know if there are some weird shit going down.
Speaker 2: It's not reported. Everything pretty much started being reported from
Speaker 2: this situation. But there was also a civilian on board.
Speaker 2: So it's one of those scenes of I wonder if
Speaker 2: because there was a civilian and a baby that this
Speaker 2: drew more attention and that it was because because it was.
Speaker 1: Already there, or is that why the aliens even took
Speaker 1: notice of the plane because there was a child.
Speaker 2: I mean, you could just go to one of the
Speaker 2: villages and take one of the kids.
Speaker 1: So that the planes already in the sky.
Speaker 2: I don't know. So there's a lot of theory that
Speaker 2: each of these planes potentially was carrying something that they
Speaker 2: didn't list on any of the information, and that they
Speaker 2: were chosen. Well, the ones that have gone missing were
Speaker 2: chosen specifically because of whatever it is that they've been carrying.
Speaker 2: The ones that went down they were looking for something,
Speaker 2: is the theory. So it makes kind of sense though
Speaker 2: if they are transporting things. Yeah, maybe potential artifacts from
Speaker 2: alien sites. Because if that is true that there is
Speaker 2: alien sites off the coast and in the middle of
Speaker 2: the triangle, maybe they found stuff and they're trying to
Speaker 2: transport it back to America and they specifically chose those
Speaker 2: planes to target to bring down.
Speaker 1: Do we know anything about the whereabouts of the woman
Speaker 1: the infant? It is what it is, but the woman herself.
Speaker 1: Was she a civilian contractor? Was she at dependa?
Speaker 2: Was she I actually don't know. I didn't look. You know,
Speaker 2: that's something that we should probably look into at a
Speaker 2: later date because I actually don't know how she was
Speaker 2: involved in this, But.
Speaker 1: Because everybody else on the plane is a military service member,
Speaker 1: so I don't know if this maybe this was a
Speaker 1: standby flight kind of situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe this was just a you know, a wife
Speaker 2: that was traveling. That makes a lot more sense to me,
Speaker 2: but I actually don't know. Interesting, So leading into the plane,
Speaker 2: the final plane number four that went down the broken Arrow.
Speaker 2: So this kind of kicks off this whole thing. So
Speaker 2: everybody was freaked out about the Douglas going messing. Then
Speaker 2: the broken Arrow happened, which was carrying a nuke.
Speaker 1: Well, there was two other planes that went down before
Speaker 1: this week.
Speaker 2: They didn't give a shit about them. Yes, there's two
Speaker 2: other planes. Yes, so there was other planes that went
Speaker 2: so this was the fourth plane that went down. So yes,
Speaker 2: there's two other planes that went down, death eight to.
Speaker 1: Five crew members, but somehow no deaths but all right.
Speaker 2: No, so there was no deaths with the other ones,
Speaker 2: slight injuries whatever. It's all in the Southern Corridor area.
Speaker 2: And this is the big one because this kicks off
Speaker 2: the first official broken arrow because it has a nuke.
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of controversy around this specific going down,
Speaker 2: this plane going down, because there is crew members that
Speaker 2: are still missing to this day. They recovered twelve out
Speaker 2: of the seventeen, and they believe so in twenty twelve,
Speaker 2: I think it was they had another group of people
Speaker 2: that went up there looking for this bad boy. They
Speaker 2: found it. So they did actually find this plane. Eventually.
Speaker 2: They eventually found this plane. They found it in two
Speaker 2: separate times. But when they went back, they actually brought
Speaker 2: people that were more experts along the way and they
Speaker 2: said that there was no way that the nuke actually
Speaker 2: went off. So there's they said that they dropped the
Speaker 2: nuke in the ocean wait wait wait wait, and that
Speaker 2: it detonated.
Speaker 1: Question whether the nuke went off or not.
Speaker 2: So they so the crew members stated that the bomb
Speaker 2: was dropped in the ocean. Then there was a change
Speaker 2: of plans and it detonated mid air in the ocean
Speaker 2: before the ocean. Then there was a theory that it
Speaker 2: detonated along that it actually detonated when it hit the
Speaker 2: side of the mountain, and that the crew members that
Speaker 2: were missing were trying to get it released, but that's
Speaker 2: how they died. There's a lot of so. And then
Speaker 2: the other one is that the nuke is just gone.
Speaker 2: So it's believed that maybe it did drop in the
Speaker 2: ocean and that somebody just recovered it i e. Russia,
Speaker 2: or that it got recovered by the aliens with the
Speaker 2: civilization down there, or that it actually just got taken
Speaker 2: overall by the aliens and they just acquired it, and
Speaker 2: then the people that went missing they took as well.
Speaker 2: So I'm not sorry for the million of different theories,
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of weird theories associated with this
Speaker 2: particular plain situation that happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm not trying to be that guy here, okay,
Speaker 1: and yes, good cult members. For the record, nukes are real.
Speaker 1: I know. I'm so sorry, but you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to be that guy here, but I feel I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm not an expert in nuclear warhead you know,
Speaker 1: warheads going off in the fallout and these things, But
Speaker 1: I just I feel like if a nuke went off
Speaker 1: on the side of a mountain in a lake in
Speaker 1: the ocean, we'd probably fucking know about it. So the
Speaker 1: fact these people say twenty twelve were still like, well
Speaker 1: we can confirm the nuke go off, I just I
Speaker 1: feel like that's a bit of a no shit Sherlock
Speaker 1: type of situation.
Speaker 2: But you have to think before that, all these years,
Speaker 2: it has been said, even in the headline right here,
Speaker 2: was it detonated over the ocean. It was the story
Speaker 2: told by the crew members was that they detonated it,
Speaker 2: or they dropped it over the ocean before they before
Speaker 2: they jumped out the plane before it hit the side
Speaker 2: of the mountain.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So let's read this article and we'll get into it.
Speaker 2: So this is by history dot Com Broken Arrow When
Speaker 2: the first US atomic bomb went missing by David Roos. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, do you want me to read it all you?
Speaker 2: Oh man? Okay? In nineteen fifty, I gotta scoot forward.
Speaker 2: I'm blind, Thank you, thank you so much. In nineteen fifty,
Speaker 2: an American B thirty six bomber on a peacetime training
Speaker 2: mission crashed over the British Columbia, Canada, carrying a Mark
Speaker 2: five is up five four four. I am terrible with
Speaker 2: Roman numerals. I don't know why. Okay, Mark four atomic
Speaker 2: bomb a weapon comparable in size to the nuke dropped
Speaker 2: on Nakasagi. I never Nagasagi? Can I say that?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: In nineteen forty five, according to your testimonies from the
Speaker 2: surviving crew members, they had safely released it the bomb
Speaker 2: and detonated in mid air before the plane went down.
Speaker 1: So I got some questions on this. We hadn't really
Speaker 1: gotten deep into air burst bombs or timed fuses when
Speaker 1: it came to bombs like this before, typically it was
Speaker 1: a as soon as it hit the ground, it set
Speaker 1: the primer and it took off.
Speaker 2: Now I don't know how they did.
Speaker 3: Maybe they strapped one of the crew members to it
Speaker 3: and he was like racked that bitch of a hammer
Speaker 3: before it hit the ground.
Speaker 1: And that's yeah. And again I could be so wrong.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you think one of them would tell them.
Speaker 1: That, you would think, right? And that's the other thing too.
Speaker 1: I don't know for a fact if we had developed
Speaker 1: time delay fuses from aerial dropped bombs by nineteen fifty.
Speaker 1: I just got a weird feeling about that. I could
Speaker 1: be so wrong. Here, good cult members, y'all know I'm
Speaker 1: not the all I know or thing about things.
Speaker 2: But anyway, all right, So the crash became the famous
Speaker 2: very first broken arrow, a US military term for an
Speaker 2: accident involving a nuclear weapon, but questions swirled for decades
Speaker 2: about whether the bomb was really detonated over the ocean
Speaker 2: or whether it went missing somewhere in the Canadian wilderness.
Speaker 2: Five years after using the first atomic weapons to force
Speaker 2: the surrender of Japan in World War II, the United
Speaker 2: States military was preparing for a new era of nuclear
Speaker 2: warfare with its Cold War adversary, the Soviet Union. The
Speaker 2: Conveyor B thirty six Peacekeeper was the first true intercontinental
Speaker 2: bomber capable of carrying nuclear weapons to any part of
Speaker 2: the world, and the US Strategic Air Command SACK was
Speaker 2: eager to test the new planes with real payloads. Okay,
Speaker 2: a testing bombing run goes awry. After months of lobbying,
Speaker 2: SACK leaders were able to convince the Atomic Energy Commission
Speaker 2: to lead them so excuse me, to lend them a
Speaker 2: mark for atomic bomb without its plutonium petronium core. The
Speaker 2: bombs still contain large amounts of uranium and conventional explosives explosives,
Speaker 2: but it could not trigger a devastating nuclear blast. Okay,
Speaker 2: So that answers some questions. Oh, also, they also had
Speaker 2: thousands of pounds of nuclear non nuclear excuse me, of
Speaker 2: explosives on this as well that went missing.
Speaker 1: Well for sure, And especially if you look at some
Speaker 1: of the older nukes of how they were developed, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of glorified blasting caps around a plutonium core.
Speaker 1: Even if you don't have the plutonium core and you
Speaker 1: just have the uranium core. If one thing goes wrong,
Speaker 1: you now have a dirty bomb, right, and that's not
Speaker 1: a good thing either. So it's not like this as
Speaker 1: oh well it was just a dummy bomb, but no,
Speaker 1: it still has the capabilities to go seriously tits up
Speaker 1: if things go sideways. But that being said, keep in mind,
Speaker 1: for anybody who's curious Operation Chrome Dome, this is not that.
Speaker 1: Operation Chrome Dome started in sixty one, and for those
Speaker 1: that don't know, that's when we had US Air Force
Speaker 1: planes doing hot laps around the United States with nukes
Speaker 1: on them and they never landed four years, just waiting
Speaker 1: on the moment to call in the air strike. We
Speaker 1: hadn't figured out how to put a rocket to the
Speaker 1: bottom of a nuclear bomb just yet, so we basically
Speaker 1: only knew how to drop them out a plane. So
Speaker 1: Operation Chrome Dome, they literally just did hot lapse on
Speaker 1: repeat four years over the United States. That is when
Speaker 1: we had a lot of our broken arrow situations.
Speaker 2: I can see that happening, you know.
Speaker 1: Just accidental things of the plane. You had to drop
Speaker 1: the payload or drop the plane. And somehow these service
Speaker 1: members thought it was better to drop a nuke on
Speaker 1: US soil than to you know, ditch the plane. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. But there was a couple
Speaker 1: of cases with this, these nuclear bombs, they had at
Speaker 1: the time three different safeties, right, so like think about
Speaker 1: it with a firearm, you have a grip safety, a
Speaker 1: trigger safety, and an actual button push safety. Two of
Speaker 1: these bombs went down on top of each other. Thankfully
Speaker 1: neither of them went off, but it was because of
Speaker 1: different safeties stopping them. So it wasn't from like a
Speaker 1: super gigachad safety that was like, oh god, thank god
Speaker 1: we had safety C on that bitch y it would
Speaker 1: have been bad. It was like safety A and safety
Speaker 1: C on different bombs being the thing to stop it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yeah, that's a thing. That's a real thing.
Speaker 1: We have had thirty two broken arrows in the United States.
Speaker 2: You know how many other countries have lost nukes.
Speaker 1: Not many nuclear countries are out there, raven not many
Speaker 1: nuclear countries out there, and not many of them were
Speaker 1: doing hot laps with hot bombs just for the fucking
Speaker 1: just in case. Shit got side of wonder.
Speaker 2: Whose brilliant idea that was? Like who created that idea?
Speaker 2: And was like, well, what, let's have a NASCAR, but
Speaker 2: in the air with nukes and hope for the best.
Speaker 1: You know, it was sixty one, So I want to
Speaker 1: play well, I was, I was gonna play Nixon.
Speaker 2: That's why I was saying cocaine.
Speaker 1: If it was Kennedy, it was absolutely coke or Marilyn
Speaker 1: Morose vajij But anyway, I was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's a wild time, all right. On February thirteenth,
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty, a B thirty six known as Flight two
Speaker 2: zero seventy five, which is weird because a lot of
Speaker 2: people say that's when the world was gonna end.
Speaker 1: Twenty seventy Who have you heard say that? I've heard
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, twenty thirty.
Speaker 2: Oh, I've heard. I've heard twenty thirty, twenty thirty five.
Speaker 2: I've heard twenty seventy five.
Speaker 1: Oh, there's no way we're still around for twenty seventy five.
Speaker 1: There's no fucking way.
Speaker 2: You don't think so?
Speaker 1: Oh no, man, I think we'd be We would be
Speaker 1: out of our minds to assume we're going to live
Speaker 1: to twenty forty really. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Took off from YEP. That's an interesting Lson Ailson Air
Speaker 2: Force Base near Fairbanks, Alaska, with a crew of seventeen
Speaker 2: the flight. The test flight was meant to replicate a
Speaker 2: bombing run on a major city in the Soviet Union.
Speaker 2: The B thirty six was slated to fly five thy
Speaker 2: five hundred miles route from Alaska to Montana, then down
Speaker 2: to San Francisco. It's bombing quote unquote target and finally
Speaker 2: landing in Carlsville will Carlos Well, well, excuse me, air
Speaker 2: Force Base in Texas. But things did not go as plan.
Speaker 2: Not long after taking off, ice began to accumulate on
Speaker 2: the bomber's fuse ledge and the fuselage fuselage you know what.
Speaker 2: This is why I don't read, okay, And the exosuit
Speaker 2: put tremendous strain on the engines, three of which caught
Speaker 2: fire and had to be shut down. Well with only
Speaker 2: three functioning engines, and the B thirty six began to
Speaker 2: lose altitude at the rate of five hundred feet per minute.
Speaker 1: And so, like I said earlier, for the case of
Speaker 1: the Douglas, for ice to form up on the on
Speaker 1: the wings or whatever like this, this is a thing
Speaker 1: that does happen, especially when you're doing flights in the
Speaker 1: upper northern areas, especially back in these days before we
Speaker 1: had a real good understanding of you know, aerial physics
Speaker 1: and things. Okay, fine, yeah, yeah, but this was a
Speaker 1: clear day. So that's why it's so crisy.
Speaker 2: Douglas.
Speaker 1: Yes on the Douglas, Yes on the Douglas. As the
Speaker 1: plane fails, the crew bails, let's get you want me
Speaker 1: to read this one or you got it?
Speaker 2: Oh, I can read it all right. Captain Harold Berry
Speaker 2: and his crew acted quickly. The first order was to
Speaker 2: ditch the atomic bomb, following military protocol to keep nuclear
Speaker 2: weapons on or their components out of the enemy hands.
Speaker 2: But when Barry's co pilot hit the salvo button to
Speaker 2: release the bomb, nothing happened. Then he hit it the
Speaker 2: second time, releasing the bomb bay doors and dropping the
Speaker 2: Mark four on over the Pacific, where, according to crew reports,
Speaker 2: it conventionally excuse me, it's conventional explosives were detonated and
Speaker 2: the bomb destroyed. Then Barry set the failings plane excuse me.
Speaker 2: Set the failing plane's autopilot to steer it into a
Speaker 2: course toward the open ocean, while his crew and him
Speaker 2: parachuted into the darkness over Princess Royal Island on the
Speaker 2: coast of a British Columbia. The abandoned twenty. The abandoned
Speaker 2: B thirty six cruised for another two hundred miles, veering
Speaker 2: from its set course and crashing into the snowy flank
Speaker 2: of Mount Cola.
Speaker 8: Yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, deep in the in island of
Speaker 2: Canadian wilderness.
Speaker 1: Real quick, Hold on, what time of year was this?
Speaker 2: This was February?
Speaker 1: So all right, once again, we're keeping everything into perspective here.
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep one for sure. Yeah, and you're telling
Speaker 1: me that these dudes jumped into the darkness over an island.
Speaker 1: Most of them probably hit the water in February off
Speaker 1: the coast of BC. So most of them probably died
Speaker 1: of hypothermia.
Speaker 2: They did not what mostly Oh, let's get it.
Speaker 1: The weaponear and bomb were never found. The weapon ear.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into a here. Immediately, a combined
Speaker 1: force of the US and Canadian military launched a massive
Speaker 1: search and rescue mission, involving forty aircraft score scouring rather
Speaker 1: the frozen coastline. Thanks to their efforts, twelve of the
Speaker 1: seventeen crew members were recovered alive, including one man found
Speaker 1: dangling upside down from his parachute in a tree with
Speaker 1: a broken ankle. Yeah, how of all the things you're
Speaker 1: gonna break from gone a parachute, landing, gone a rise.
Speaker 1: It's not like you hit the ground and rolled his ankle.
Speaker 1: You got caught in a tree and broke your ankle.
Speaker 1: That's wild to me.
Speaker 2: I mean you're going feet first, so I understand why.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 2: You normally break your legs and your ankles and your
Speaker 2: hips in your back first.
Speaker 1: I always hear getting caught in trees and breaking their
Speaker 1: neck or their back an ankle, like.
Speaker 2: What the fre normally coming in at it, and you
Speaker 2: normally break your legs, ankles, your ankles, legs, back, the neck.
Speaker 2: That's how it kind of goes like this up with
Speaker 2: the thing.
Speaker 1: But five crewmen, including the weaponeer, Captain Theodore Schreier, were
Speaker 1: never found. The US military interviewed the crew, who each
Speaker 1: corroborated Captain Barry's report that the mark Iour was safely
Speaker 1: detonated before the crash. Meanwhile, the search continued for the
Speaker 1: wreckage of Flight twenty seventy five, and the only way
Speaker 1: to confirm if the airman story was true or the
Speaker 1: only way, excuse me. The US Air Force's search team
Speaker 1: couldn't find a trace of the downplane and assumed it
Speaker 1: had crashed into the Pacific. But three years later a
Speaker 1: Canadian rescue operation searching for a missing oil prospector spotted
Speaker 1: the wreckage atop Mount Calaget, Colaget, Caliget, collegie, don't know,
Speaker 1: don't care. The Air Force tried three times to send
Speaker 1: expeditions to the remote mountain crash site, but each team
Speaker 1: had to turn back due to bad weather and grueling conditions. Finally,
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty four, a small demolition crew reached the
Speaker 1: down B thirty six and proceeded to strip the plane
Speaker 1: of any classified equipment and destroy it. This happened in
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty Yes, and then finally in nineteen fifty four
Speaker 1: they were able to get to it and.
Speaker 2: Strip it the first time. Yes.
Speaker 1: Wow, So now theories proliferate about the lost nuke. On
Speaker 1: screen right now is big? Yeah, that's a image. I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's a mock of the fat Man, but either
Speaker 1: way it goes It's wow. Since the demolition cruise report
Speaker 1: was top secret, no word emerged about the whereabouts of
Speaker 1: the missing atomic bomb were the clues and the wreckage
Speaker 1: that the bomb had in fact been released prior to
Speaker 1: the impact. In the absence of definitive proof, rumors began
Speaker 1: to swirl about the true fate of the lost nuke.
Speaker 1: At the epicenter of these rumors was Captain Schreier, the
Speaker 1: missing weaponeer. A number of unsubstantiated claims pointed to an
Speaker 1: aultere alternative fate for the lost bomb. First, there was
Speaker 1: a rumor that a body was found with the wreckage
Speaker 1: on Mount Colagett. If or what if it was Schreier
Speaker 1: or Schreier, I don't know. The weaponeer was a former
Speaker 1: airline pil and could have attempted to fly the plane
Speaker 1: back to Alaska when the others bailed out, okay, possibly
Speaker 1: adding fuel to the conspiracy fire. A second claim that
Speaker 1: Captain Barry had seen the bomber turn sharply soon after
Speaker 1: he had leapt into the midnight sky. The story began
Speaker 1: to circulate that the bomb never left the plane and
Speaker 1: that Schreier died trying to get it back to the
Speaker 1: safety of the Air Force base. Okay, I could possibly
Speaker 1: see this, Okay. None of the rumors were confirmed by
Speaker 1: the military. However, and over the following half century, other
Speaker 1: adventurers and amateur investigators made pilgrimages to the Flight twenty
Speaker 1: seventy five crash site to see what they could find
Speaker 1: and or pilfer yeah, I'll bet now curious find. In
Speaker 1: two thousand and three, an investigative team led by John Clearwater,
Speaker 1: an expert on Canada's nuclear weapon program and the history
Speaker 1: of Los nukes, journeyed to the crash site to make
Speaker 1: its own assessment. At first, it appeared that most of
Speaker 1: the plane had been destroyed by the nineteen fifty four
Speaker 1: demolition crew or stolen by generations of adventures and looters.
Speaker 1: They found something interesting, though, While the crash or yeah,
Speaker 1: while the crash and ensuing demolition destroy much of the
Speaker 1: equipment in the bomb bay and the bomb shackle which
Speaker 1: it was held, or which is what held the weapons
Speaker 1: suspended there. Okay, so that's like the brace that held
Speaker 1: the bomb in place until the bay doors open, remained
Speaker 1: impressively intact. Clearwater in his team concluded that if the
Speaker 1: bomb had gone down with the rest of the plane
Speaker 1: and the shackle remained in such good condition, there would
Speaker 1: have been some clear evidence of the bomb in the wreckage,
Speaker 1: but there wasn't. The more conventional explanation of the fate
Speaker 1: of America's first broken Arrow was likely the truth. The
Speaker 1: only remains of the detonated Mark four rested deep in
Speaker 1: the on the ocean floor. The crash of Flight twenty
Speaker 1: seventy five may have been the first broken Arrow, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't the last. Clearwater rights that in the first
Speaker 1: twenty four years of the Atomic Age alone, the US
Speaker 1: and Soviet Union jettisoned or accidentally released twenty three other
Speaker 1: lost nukes. So that was again, in the first twenty
Speaker 1: four years of the atomic age. To date, we've had
Speaker 1: thirty two just on our own soil.
Speaker 2: So you know, well, so, yeah, they said that this,
Speaker 2: you know, it likely crashed in the ocean. But then
Speaker 2: I've read, I read a ton of different narratives discussing
Speaker 2: potentially what could have happened to the missing nuke and
Speaker 2: the crew and the other five crew members that disappeared.
Speaker 2: What'd you find Well, like I said earlier, how you
Speaker 2: know they thought maybe this that they were abducted by aliens,
Speaker 2: that they actually you know, that it didn't actually go down,
Speaker 2: that it was still intact and never released, never actually
Speaker 2: blew apart in that you know, somebody took it. But
Speaker 2: there was apparently thousands of pounds of explosives as well
Speaker 2: on there, but it's not even mentioned. I only found
Speaker 2: somebody actually talking about it said that this is the
Speaker 2: actual flight log of what was on this plane.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So yeah, another interesting thing. So what made actually the
Speaker 2: Alaskan Triangle known was this entire So on the screen
Speaker 2: right now, it says the disappearance of House Majority Leader
Speaker 2: Hail Bogs. So good old Bogs is actually from Louisiana.
Speaker 2: He made a lot of ruffles because of where he was.
Speaker 2: So he was actually commissioned to privately investigate to a
Speaker 2: special mission mission investigation into JFK's murder. And really yes,
Speaker 2: and so he made a lot of enemies, calling people out.
Speaker 2: He called out all sorts of high up people pretty
Speaker 2: much being very loud and open that it's bullshit. The
Speaker 2: story your phoenis is crap. These people are crap, and
Speaker 2: I just don't believe any of this. So this is
Speaker 2: a story that actually made the triangle known to many people,
Speaker 2: and it started in October sixteenth, nineteen seventy two. So
Speaker 2: what do you like him?
Speaker 1: I just realized this. So the Warren Commission, which is
Speaker 1: the commission that was set to do the investigation into
Speaker 1: JFK's murder, it wrapped up in two weeks. And the
Speaker 1: guy who was at the absolute head of it was
Speaker 1: a guy who you may have heard of named Gerald Ford,
Speaker 1: who later on became the president after Nixon was impeached.
Speaker 1: His VP was already under indictment for income tax evasion,
Speaker 1: as boy Spiro Agnew And next thing you know, Gerald Ford,
Speaker 1: who allegedly never wanted to be president, is now forced
Speaker 1: into the position. And then you look back at his
Speaker 1: situation with the Warren Commission and trying to investigate JFK.
Speaker 1: In it, he was also a part of the the
Speaker 1: tanking of that situation. So the Warrant Commission was from
Speaker 1: September of nineteen six or to September twenty fourth to
Speaker 1: September twenty seventh of what year sixty four? Okay, So
Speaker 1: to say that this guy made some enemies back in
Speaker 1: these days, and maybe he was still being being very
Speaker 1: loud and proud about the things that he believed up
Speaker 1: until seventy two.
Speaker 2: This checks out, so seventy two, so they actually so
Speaker 2: from what I found, they actually commissioned him to reopen
Speaker 2: the case. Like he was approached by it. He didn't
Speaker 2: shut up about it, and he was demanding that they
Speaker 2: reopened the entire case. That's there's a lot of other
Speaker 2: stuff that went on. So we'll read about him and
Speaker 2: then I'll fill in what I've also read as well.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So, although although the wilderness wow, I could talk. Okay,
Speaker 2: Although the wilderness that would become known as the Remuted
Speaker 2: Triangle of Alaska had seen its fair share of missing
Speaker 2: persons prior to nineteen seventy two, it truly became a
Speaker 2: point of public fixation in October of that year when
Speaker 2: a private airplane carrying the US House Majority leader Hailbogs
Speaker 2: vanished somewhere between Anchorage and Juno.
Speaker 1: Wow. So the guy I was talking about, dreau Ford,
Speaker 1: he was present from seventy four to seventy seven. So
Speaker 1: right before he gets forced into the position, quote unquote,
Speaker 1: this guy who was loud and proud about how the
Speaker 1: investigation was bullshit goes down silence forever. Yes, how fascinating continue.
Speaker 2: So October sixteenth, nineteen seventy two, Bogs and Representative Nick
Speaker 2: I don't know, begick, begish, beij were on board the
Speaker 2: two engine plane three, the Cessana three ten plane, along
Speaker 2: with one of Beck's aside aids sorry aids, Russell Brown,
Speaker 2: and the pilot, Don Johns. Don Johns.
Speaker 1: I don't know if John's are yng.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. It was the lady that I watched,
Speaker 2: said john sok. Boggs had been visiting the freshman bach.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to say. We're gonna call him
Speaker 2: Nick freshman Nick during the campaign, Trent. But at some
Speaker 2: point during the flight, the planes seemingly vanished into fit air.
Speaker 2: So he was actually up there for hang on, let
Speaker 2: me look, it was actually for a political rally, okay,
Speaker 2: And what he was there for originally.
Speaker 1: Louisiana boy goes to Alaska for a political rally. Sure, sure,
Speaker 1: well it was a majority of the House leader for
Speaker 1: the GOP at the time, So like, okay, this makes sense.
Speaker 2: Actually, according to the Policia Politico, oh my god, I
Speaker 2: cannot read tonight. You're just you know what?
Speaker 1: Okay, I got you, According to Politico, When word of
Speaker 1: the plane's sudden disappearance reached Washington, d c it kicks
Speaker 1: started the largest search and rescue operations scene up until
Speaker 1: that point in the US history, in total, forty military
Speaker 1: aircraft and fifty civilian planes. So we got ninety planes
Speaker 1: in the sky, eight in the search, which spanned three
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five thousand square miles and lasted more
Speaker 1: than thirty six hundred hours. Wow, but I don't know
Speaker 1: how many days that is thirty six hundred hours.
Speaker 2: It was thirty nine days they actually searched for They
Speaker 2: searched for.
Speaker 1: Them, but thirty nine days later the search party found nothing,
Speaker 1: not a trace of the plane or anyone who was
Speaker 1: on it. The search was called off, and the incident
Speaker 1: prompted Congress to pass a law mandating that all US
Speaker 1: civil aircraft be equipped with emergency locator transmitters. Not long after,
Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist surfaced, Hey, that's our tribe, including one pertaining
Speaker 1: to Bogg's membership on the Warren Commission set up by
Speaker 1: President LBJ to investigate JFK's assassination and his dissenting opinion
Speaker 1: on the commission's report pointing to a loan assassin because
Speaker 1: clearly your boy Bogs had a brainstem that was functioning.
Speaker 1: In short, Boggs believed that Kennedy's assassination may have involved
Speaker 1: multiple individuals, and conspiracy theorists believed Boggs was killed because
Speaker 1: he was looking too deeply into something he shouldn't have been. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta say, knowing nothing else about this before we started,
Speaker 1: I have to agree. Yeah, Like it's not even a
Speaker 1: crazy theory. It's like, well, yeah, obviously Anyway, However, Boggs's
Speaker 1: plane was not the first or last to disappear in
Speaker 1: the Alaska Triangle. In fact, in nineteen fifty, a military
Speaker 1: aircraft carrying forty four people also vanished without a trace.
Speaker 1: The same happened with a Cessna three point forty carrying
Speaker 1: four passengers in nineteen ninety. Wow, and again some of
Speaker 1: the sesnas, I could at least understand, these are small,
Speaker 1: little bush planes. Things can go wrong and there's no
Speaker 1: way that you're gonna be able to bail out. And like, okay, fine,
Speaker 1: But it's like when you mix in the amount of
Speaker 1: military planes that have gone down, the amount of search
Speaker 1: and rescue operations that have found nothing.
Speaker 2: Nothing, not one single thing, and now they're using drones too,
Speaker 2: you'd think they would find something. Now, I can understand
Speaker 2: if you weren't, you know, because back in the day
Speaker 2: you didn't have that equipment, but it even stated that
Speaker 2: they did joint efforts, so in the air and on
Speaker 2: the ground they actually went over and bypassed. For this
Speaker 2: particular case, they went over looking at some of the
Speaker 2: areas over and over again with two sets, so they're
Speaker 2: doing air and ground, they're covering it over and over again,
Speaker 2: and they couldn't find a single thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Nothing, Yeah, it's again multiple red flags on the
Speaker 1: play here. Good cult members and the most serious disappearances
Speaker 1: don't stop there. In fact, the situation only becomes more
Speaker 1: staggering when factoring in the number of individual people who
Speaker 1: have gone missing in the Alaska Triangle more than sixteen
Speaker 1: thousand since nineteen eighty eight, or, to put it in
Speaker 1: another way, roughly four out of every thousand individuals in Alaska,
Speaker 1: more than double the national average. Of course, the biggest
Speaker 1: question is why so since from nineteen eighty eight to now,
Speaker 1: we're talking thirty eight years, seven thirty seven thank you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty five, we're almost the twenty twenty six
Speaker 1: egg squeeze me, no, thank you whatever, So in how.
Speaker 2: Many years now, it's thirty seven years, thirty.
Speaker 1: Seven years, we've had sixteen thousand people go missing.
Speaker 2: I'm bored in eighty eight, so I'm gonna just.
Speaker 1: Do some quick calculations on that here. So you know,
Speaker 1: I don't even know where you where. The calculator app
Speaker 1: is on here, it's right here, it's right there. Okay,
Speaker 1: So sixteen thousand divided by thirty thirty seven years, thirty
Speaker 1: seven years, thirty seven years, so there are four hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty two people that have gone missing every single
Speaker 1: day for the last thirty seven years. Okay, that's that's
Speaker 1: totally a normal thing.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. All right, then that's an insane amount.
Speaker 2: What's interesting? So the search did stop on November twenty fourth,
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy two. So I was looking at my notes.
Speaker 2: I don't want to get to this point yet. I
Speaker 2: want to see I want to see what they say
Speaker 2: about him, because it's interesting because in nineteen ninety four
Speaker 2: somebody comes forward with information.
Speaker 1: Okay, try on, all right, So according to the Travel Channel,
Speaker 1: I understand test the source, feel how you want to
Speaker 1: feel about the Travel Channel whatever. One prominent theory regarding
Speaker 1: the Alaska Triangle is the numerous disappearance and with the
Speaker 1: numerous disappearances within the region comes from a strange report
Speaker 1: made by the Federal Aviation Administration the FAA in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty six.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I know it's gonna okay, So we're gonna
Speaker 2: wrap up this this guy first. So in nineteen ninety four,
Speaker 2: a man named Jerry Max Paisley. He was a mob
Speaker 2: hit man, a bomber, and in jail for murder at
Speaker 2: the time. He was commissioned by one of the famous
Speaker 2: mob groups. It started with a b it's a one
Speaker 2: from New York. He was commissioned in nineteen seventy two
Speaker 2: to take a briefcase up there and drop it off
Speaker 2: with these two men in anchorage. He had no idea
Speaker 2: what was actually in the suitcase. He just dropped off
Speaker 2: this suitcase and dipped out. Now, a few days later
Speaker 2: this situation happens, and he just kind of was, you know,
Speaker 2: went about his day. So he eventually gets out of
Speaker 2: prison and he ends up becoming a business owner with
Speaker 2: one of the men that he dropped the briefcase with,
Speaker 2: and he ends up marrying this lady that actually has
Speaker 2: ties to the four men that went missing. It's either
Speaker 2: it's her ex husband or something. Pretty much she is
Speaker 2: directly tied to one of the men that actually went missing,
Speaker 2: and so he marries this woman. So while they're out
Speaker 2: fishing with the man that had the briefcase, him and
Speaker 2: this man that have a business together, he gets told that, hey,
Speaker 2: by the way, did you know what was in that
Speaker 2: briefcase that you gave me all those years ago? Well, no,
Speaker 2: I have no idea. So he finds out that the
Speaker 2: briefcase held a bomb in it, and he's like, hah,
Speaker 2: didn't she know it had a bomb. No, Jerry says
Speaker 2: he had no idea ahead a bomb. So then Jerry
Speaker 2: years later feels really guilty and has a remorse and
Speaker 2: goes actually to the Anchorage police. The Anchoraged police looks
Speaker 2: up this whole thing. They know already all about this,
Speaker 2: so they decide. The chief of police decides to contact
Speaker 2: the FBI. Now he tells him, look, we have an eyewitness.
Speaker 2: The man wants to do a loight detector test to
Speaker 2: prove that he's telling the truth. He has time dates
Speaker 2: and stamps, so when he actually delivered this briefcase, he
Speaker 2: has actual ties to this whole situation and can tie
Speaker 2: back to the mob, and the FBI sends it sends
Speaker 2: an agent out, so the agent. So this this was
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety four. So the agent comes out and
Speaker 2: takes a whole bunch of notes, all the things, and said, look,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go investigate this. I will get back to
Speaker 2: you in a few weeks. Nothing happens, Nothing happens. Finally,
Speaker 2: the police chief calls them and calls this woman and
Speaker 2: which is the investigator for the FBI, and she street
Speaker 2: tells him, look, I got told by higher up to
Speaker 2: drop this completely. I'm not allowed to investigate it. I'm
Speaker 2: not allowed to ask any questions. You are one hundred
Speaker 2: percent of eyes to drop this and act like you've
Speaker 2: never heard this again. Period. And she was very clear
Speaker 2: that I am not getting my hands dirty. I got
Speaker 2: told to drop this. So the police chief ends up
Speaker 2: having to drop this because he tried a few more
Speaker 2: times to make some more connections and nothing happened. Good
Speaker 2: old Jerry was one hundred percent still pushing for taking
Speaker 2: a polygraph and to prove that he was correct, but
Speaker 2: nothing further came of this, and twenty ten he passed away,
Speaker 2: leaving behind the entire story of what could have potentially happened.
Speaker 2: But this whole thing wraps back too. There was not
Speaker 2: a single piece of evidence found that this plane blew
Speaker 2: up anywhere period. They found nothing, not a single scrap
Speaker 2: of anything, not a shred of metal, not a shoe, nothing,
Speaker 2: that's just gone vanished in thin air, just like the Douglas.
Speaker 2: So wow, there was It's interesting that both planes just vanished.
Speaker 2: But it's not just that plane. Those planes, though, many
Speaker 2: others have vanished. Now, many others have gone down and
Speaker 2: have killed people, but they don't find the people. They
Speaker 2: don't find the planes, but they have distressed signals, but
Speaker 2: a lot of them just vanish into thin air. So
Speaker 2: that kind of leads us to this Japanese clean that
Speaker 2: is really interesting. So the report cleaned.
Speaker 1: Real quick, real quick. So yeah, to further the conversation,
Speaker 1: you were just saying about the mob hit man, So
Speaker 1: that was the Banano crime family. Yes, thank you, the
Speaker 1: Banano crime family, who is the same connection that we
Speaker 1: have to Jeffrey Epstein's former cell mate.
Speaker 2: I knew that was them, okay, So I had a
Speaker 2: feeling it all wrapped into one. So yeah, so same
Speaker 2: situation kind of went down.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So if anybody is curious what we're talking about
Speaker 1: and that one, go to episode nine sixty where we
Speaker 1: go into detail about Clay Tiffany and the former associate
Speaker 1: of the Menano crime family who was a dirty cop
Speaker 1: who beat the shit out of it, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: killed Clay Tiffany, who later was incarcerated for a lot
Speaker 1: of nefarious things.
Speaker 2: Killing four people, murdering.
Speaker 1: Cold blooded and then also in my opinion, killed Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's reports that he's still alive. Beside
Speaker 1: the point, go check out episode nine to sixty if
Speaker 1: you want to hear more about that. But Banano crime
Speaker 1: family is one of the five Families, and that's like
Speaker 1: a very famous five families that are part of the
Speaker 1: Joint Force Commission of Mafia crime Families. So this guy
Speaker 1: who was a former hitman for that family said that,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, no, I'm the one that did that, yes and.
Speaker 2: Bar yeah, and he was. He was convicted of serving
Speaker 2: jail for murder. Gets I just but the weird thing
Speaker 2: about it is is that he went into business with
Speaker 2: one of the guys that he dropped this briefcase off to.
Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, I'm just gonna take this. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go all the way up there and drop off
Speaker 2: this briefcase that I'm not even gonna ask what's in it? Yeah, nothing,
Speaker 2: But it's interesting that it came forward forward later in
Speaker 2: life and was so insistent on taking a polygraph to
Speaker 2: prove that one hundred percent. This is a story that
Speaker 2: I was told, these are the things that I know.
Speaker 2: And he's like, I don't know what happened if they
Speaker 2: actually use the bomb or not. But that leads back
Speaker 2: to my theory that maybe they were carrying more than
Speaker 2: what we know, right, so maybe there is other things
Speaker 2: on the plane that attracted either the UFOs, because the Aliens,
Speaker 2: if they're just disappearing, it doesn't make any sense unless
Speaker 2: we the government are taking people and somehow have the
Speaker 2: ability to cloak it and snatch these planes and snatch
Speaker 2: these people up, and they are just I don't know,
Speaker 2: being recycled, being used given to the aliens for experiments.
Speaker 2: But whatever the.
Speaker 1: Other side of that conversation also makes sense. So either
Speaker 1: A the Aliens took them, or B the bomb was
Speaker 1: powerful enough to completely destroy Assessment, which is not a
Speaker 1: big plane.
Speaker 2: Every single piece, every single tiny piece.
Speaker 1: I hear you, there at least be some sort of
Speaker 1: an engine block, There be something. But my point is
Speaker 1: to say that the mafia had a vested interest in
Speaker 1: your boy Bogs going down never to be seen or
Speaker 1: heard from again. That also checks out on a conspiratorial take,
Speaker 1: and then the other side of it to say that
Speaker 1: the plane disappears, there's obviously some other level of shit
Speaker 1: going on here. That also makes sense on a.
Speaker 2: Concert But if the government in that area is sacrificing people,
Speaker 2: like straight up sacrificing people.
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about over four hundred a day.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I mean like they've made some kind of
Speaker 2: deal that Look, we will feed you vampires. Look, the
Speaker 2: Sigreury could be up there. I really hope it's not them,
Speaker 2: because they were really scared with your little law mouth shit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if you've never seen it, then you wouldn't understand. But
Speaker 2: if you've seen it, you understand the law thing. No
Speaker 2: no one else can. If you're not looking at us,
Speaker 2: then you won't understand. I'm making a hand gesture with
Speaker 2: my with my hand, and that's it's a weird thing.
Speaker 1: You come check us own Patreon to see what the
Speaker 1: fuck we're talking.
Speaker 2: About, and you can see my new Lord of the
Speaker 2: Rings sweatshirt that I got for Christmas. Hell, I do
Speaker 2: want to know what everybody else got for Christmas? Like
Speaker 2: where are we at? Are we too old to talk
Speaker 2: about Christmas presents?
Speaker 1: We can.
Speaker 2: Anyway, But so I don't know if the aliens are
Speaker 2: they have some kind of broker deal because it's such
Speaker 2: an energy hub, maybe they're able to be like, look,
Speaker 2: we'll let you guys stay up here and do your
Speaker 2: little pitty patty little bullshit, but you're going to feed
Speaker 2: us parts, engines, bombs, people, whatever it is to keep
Speaker 2: us satisfied, to keep us from just blowing the whole
Speaker 2: lid off. This bullshit.
Speaker 1: I could see it.
Speaker 2: I mean that's from everything I keep reading. I honestly,
Speaker 2: I'm starting to think more and more that this is
Speaker 2: this is a hub like I felt like Hollow Earth
Speaker 2: was down in Antarctica. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I feel like multiple entrances.
Speaker 2: I feel like this could potentially be an I know
Speaker 2: that that's what I was thinking. I think this could
Speaker 2: be potentially leading to a hollow Earth or some kind
Speaker 2: of other dimension planet, whatever you want to say. But
Speaker 2: I think there's something to it.
Speaker 1: So let's get into it.
Speaker 2: I'll get into more of it.
Speaker 1: The report claimed that japan Airlines flight sixteen twenty eight
Speaker 1: had encountered three unidentified aerial phenomena UAPs were commonly known
Speaker 1: as unidentified flying objects UFOs. The plilot excuse me. The
Speaker 1: pilot reported that they initially believed the craft to be military,
Speaker 1: before realizing that the objects were keeping pace with the
Speaker 1: plane and moving in in erratic motions while emitting bursts
Speaker 1: of light. These claims were reportedly later verified by civilian
Speaker 1: and military radar, leading some to speculate that the thousands
Speaker 1: of strange disappearances that have occurred in the Alaska Triangle
Speaker 1: could have been attributed to extra terrestrials. So on screen
Speaker 1: right now is a look at the triangle itself. Massive,
Speaker 1: it covers I would say, I want to say half
Speaker 1: the state. I'll say a third.
Speaker 2: The length of Venezuela or something. It's the size of Venezuela.
Speaker 2: I think that's what they said. It's quite large. It's
Speaker 2: very very large, and it goes over glaciers, mountains, lakes.
Speaker 2: It has at least two sides have some type of
Speaker 2: coastal you know access. So in the middle is where
Speaker 2: a lot of shit has been going down. But off
Speaker 2: the coast of Juno is where Juno borrow and anchorage
Speaker 2: on the coastal sides there potentially might be an alien
Speaker 2: fortress underneath the ocean.
Speaker 1: We're going to continue this article, but then before we leave,
Speaker 1: I'm going to leave it on this picture because later
Speaker 1: on when we bring up a certain mountain that some
Speaker 1: some might say is being used as some sort of
Speaker 1: an underground base for the aliens, and then we look
Speaker 1: at that in the location of that tied into this map,
Speaker 1: it's basically dead center of this triangle. So keep that
Speaker 1: one on the back burner, good cult members. We're going
Speaker 1: to continue on another theory suggest that massive swirling energy
Speaker 1: vortexes exist within the Alaska Triangle. Supposedly, the direction and
Speaker 1: energy vortex spins can influence human behavior. A clockwise vortex,
Speaker 1: for instance, creates positive emotions, while counterclockwise vortex leads humans
Speaker 1: to experience negative feelings and confusion. So the clockwise would
Speaker 1: be what we keep hearing about in Sodona. Yes, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: and if you're one of those people, you know much
Speaker 1: love anyway. Indeed, electronic readings have reportedly detected significant magnetic
Speaker 1: irregularities within the Alaska Triangle, and search teams in the
Speaker 1: area have reported their compasses being more than thirty degrees off.
Speaker 1: Some have also feeling disoriented or experiencing auditory hallucinations, which
Speaker 1: purportedly could account for why people get lost or crash
Speaker 1: in the Alaska Triangle.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of community. There's a lot of people
Speaker 2: that have reported that they hear their voices being whispered
Speaker 2: on the wind, or like the people are behind them
Speaker 2: and they're being talked to, or it sounds like there's
Speaker 2: a jarble, like you can hear somebody but you can't
Speaker 2: quite make out exactly what's being said to you.
Speaker 1: Auditory hallucinations, yes, a lot. That would make somebody actually
Speaker 1: lose their mind.
Speaker 2: A lot of people have reported that they were experiencing
Speaker 2: them at different points in different places within the triangle itself,
Speaker 2: so fuck mm hmm. And they also have they A
Speaker 2: lot of people have reported different types of feeling that
Speaker 2: they feel that they feel. Some people said that they
Speaker 2: felt really happy, positive and all this stuff at certain locations.
Speaker 2: Other people said that they were extremely extremely depressed, negative,
Speaker 2: just like a whole weight was on them. So okay,
Speaker 2: it's I was trying to find like verifiable who said what?
Speaker 2: How many people said what? Which was quite kind of
Speaker 2: difficult to find. I felt I found a lot of
Speaker 2: generalization of a lot of people have reported this. A
Speaker 2: lot of people have reported this. I found several articles
Speaker 2: talking about that. I was looking for, like how many actually,
Speaker 2: But it stands to reason if there is energy, that
Speaker 2: it's impacting people. I just don't see how it would
Speaker 2: make people disappear that many people, right, and that many
Speaker 2: planes disappear, and that many planes crash. That's energy. Vortexes
Speaker 2: will get into the energy of war texes. But they
Speaker 2: are an interesting theory. I think there is something to
Speaker 2: the theory. I like the there's something there's a part
Speaker 2: of the vortexes belonged to black holes as well. They
Speaker 2: kind of all tie in together. But that's more of
Speaker 2: the scientific realm. These seem more of the spiritual like
Speaker 2: energy kind of realm. But we'll have to like read
Speaker 2: into read into the article. But it's it's interesting. So
Speaker 2: this kind of talks more about the folklore around this area.
Speaker 1: Okay, so other theories trace back even further, rooting themselves
Speaker 1: in Native American folklore. As to any of the natives
Speaker 1: in Alaska, I'm going to butcher these pronunciations. No disrespect
Speaker 1: to you, your people or your ancestors. The Tlinget and
Speaker 1: Tis dismiss Shean peoples yeah, for example, have told stories
Speaker 1: of a creature known as the Kushtaka, a shape shifter
Speaker 1: that prowls the Alaskan wilderness searching for its prey. The
Speaker 1: Kushtaka is similar in appearance to an otter, but often
Speaker 1: appears to those lost in the woods as a trusted
Speaker 1: friend okay, okay, leading their victims deeper into the wilderness
Speaker 1: and either tearing them to shreds or turning them into
Speaker 1: a kushata. Okay, so this is it? This So it's
Speaker 1: literally like so the wolf or.
Speaker 2: The dog man, it's the dog man, but an otter
Speaker 2: version with an otter head. So we there was a
Speaker 2: clip earlier that was talking about how the aliens can
Speaker 2: shape shift into all different beings and and so.
Speaker 1: There's no way I'm following that thing in the fucking woods.
Speaker 2: Why the fuck. First off, it's a very scary it's
Speaker 2: an otter head with this like massive body that looks
Speaker 2: like a were wolf body. Look at I know, it's
Speaker 2: very fucking scary looking. To be honest, I don't know
Speaker 2: why any would want to look at the kneecaps, bro,
Speaker 2: what's what the caps? Look at the weird little hands but.
Speaker 1: Trump hands?
Speaker 2: Right? Okay, So there's a theory that it's actually aliens
Speaker 2: shape shifting into different things, which means, what if this
Speaker 2: is the Alaskan version of dog Man.
Speaker 1: I've heard that has dog men, I know, but now
Speaker 1: we have to worry about otterman.
Speaker 2: Had don't worry we had to worry about a killer
Speaker 2: black a big foot too. That will get Yeah, we're
Speaker 2: gonna get so excited about this. It doesn't pertain particularly
Speaker 2: to all of this, but it still is in the
Speaker 2: area of Alaska and inside the triangle.
Speaker 1: We now have to do more of a deep dive
Speaker 1: into the kushtaka one day, because as we're talking about,
Speaker 1: like the Pacific Northwest in Alaska and this area of
Speaker 1: southwest Canada. I thought we only had to worry about
Speaker 1: the sam Squante and the dog Man. Apparently we have
Speaker 1: to worry about fucking giant river otters. Now that's the thing.
Speaker 2: They they now need to take into a with the
Speaker 2: biggest neck I've ever seen in my life. Oh, just
Speaker 2: looks like it would open up its mouth and swallow hold.
Speaker 1: It's like, ah, this is like a half bare, half otter,
Speaker 1: half g raft, half man. And this is we're just
Speaker 1: supposed to take that it looks like the Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a rugaroo with an otter face.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you that it really does
Speaker 2: look just like that, just put an otter face on it,
Speaker 2: trying to look all cute and alluring, I guess and
Speaker 2: be like, Hi, I am friendly. Who the fuck would
Speaker 2: think you would look friendly if I saw that giant
Speaker 2: ass creature come out of the water or step behind
Speaker 2: the tree, I'm like, Nope, that's it.
Speaker 1: I'm two separate Native American tribes acknowledge that things exist. Yes,
Speaker 1: this in like one obscure thing way all over the world. No,
Speaker 1: two tribes acknowledge this.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Okay, yep, that's not that's not just a hypothetical. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're moving on. There are other theories as well, Okay,
Speaker 1: thank god, some more outlandish than others, sure, ranging from
Speaker 1: heavy air and strange weather to energy lasers beamed from
Speaker 1: lost city of Atlantis. Oh, for the love of God.
Speaker 2: So the energy beams is a big conversation.
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily against the energy beams conversation, especially as
Speaker 1: we get into the possible alien situation underneath the mountain.
Speaker 1: That being said, Alaska Atlantis is now possibly in.
Speaker 2: Alaska Atlantis is everywhere. It's a mythical being that just
Speaker 2: floats around. What if it just travels. What if it's
Speaker 2: actually just in all the different places, it's just deep
Speaker 2: deep in the ocean and just kind of like, you know, today,
Speaker 2: we just feel like being over here today that kills me.
Speaker 1: I still think it's dogg ar Land, but you know,
Speaker 1: and I've also heard there's this island in Spain, not
Speaker 1: too far from a Beisa, where they believe that the
Speaker 1: highest peak of this little island is actually the peak
Speaker 1: of what was once the city of Atlantis. I just
Speaker 1: saw that today. Okay, so sure what they meant was Alaska?
Speaker 6: Sure?
Speaker 1: That said, there are also a few more grounded explanations
Speaker 1: regarding the Alaska Triangle for the skeptics out there, Okay,
Speaker 1: geographical factors that could explain why people go missing in
Speaker 1: the Alaska Triangle. Well, it may be fun to postulate
Speaker 1: supernatural occurrences within the Alaska Triangle. It would be a
Speaker 1: service to discuss the region without likewise including or likewise
Speaker 1: looking into scientific explanations for its numerous disappearances. According to
Speaker 1: the manual, one of the most likely scientific explanations is
Speaker 1: quite simply geography. Okay, With year round snowfall, dense wilderness,
Speaker 1: and massive glaciers containing hidden caves and giant crevices, the
Speaker 1: odds of finding a downed aircraft or poor soul's body
Speaker 1: are slim. Hikers might fall into deep holes, their tracks
Speaker 1: likely covered with snow before the light has left their eyes.
Speaker 1: Even planes, despite their massive size, can quickly become buried
Speaker 1: under heavy snowfall. Keep in mind too, that the state
Speaker 1: of Alaska it is itself massive. Alaska is more than
Speaker 1: twice the size of Texas, and most of it is
Speaker 1: still uninhabited by humans. Well, yeah, it's pretty rough cut bush.
Speaker 1: The paranormal theories surrounding the Alaska Triangle are certainly exciting
Speaker 1: to discuss, but the truth is that it's unfortunately very
Speaker 1: easy for a person to go missing in the Alaskan
Speaker 1: wilderness and next to impossible to find them when they do. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I think that's about it as far as this
Speaker 1: article is concerned. It is very informative.
Speaker 2: I just want to say, though they didn't actually give
Speaker 2: you anything besides just saying geography.
Speaker 1: That's the reason I can understand where they're coming from.
Speaker 2: You, I get it, I get why. But you're talking
Speaker 2: about all of these people, right, all of these planes,
Speaker 2: in the amount of their going missing, and they're just
Speaker 2: gone with nothing, nothing, And you're talking about tons of
Speaker 2: resources and rescue missions looking for anything. Yeah, and there's nothing.
Speaker 2: So you're just by the way. Glaciers are very slow moving.
Speaker 2: They do move, they do live very so there's sheets
Speaker 2: of ice that have water flowing underneath them that actually
Speaker 2: do move. Right, They're going very slow, though, they're not
Speaker 2: just like we're we're losing it one hundred and eighty
Speaker 2: miles per hour or no, that's not happening here.
Speaker 1: Yea.
Speaker 2: So to say that the glaciers are an issue, yes,
Speaker 2: they can't break apart. They break apart. They have massive
Speaker 2: crevices that people can fall into. Lots of hikers have
Speaker 2: when you're out there hiking. Yes, I can understand on
Speaker 2: foot terrain people going missing easily, easily doing that. You're
Speaker 2: talking about, though, the amount of people that have gone
Speaker 2: missing from aircrafts and everything else included, that doesn't make
Speaker 2: any sense to me at least, and it doesn't make
Speaker 2: any sense to hit a mountain and nothing. What are
Speaker 2: they hitting some type of a shield like they have,
Speaker 2: you know, potentially at the Antarctica. It's a you know,
Speaker 2: false wall and they just go inside and that's it.
Speaker 1: And that's the other thing I understand. They have like
Speaker 1: over a thousand lakes in Alaska. I get this, three million,
Speaker 1: three three million, three million, Use the fuck out three million,
Speaker 1: three million lakes in longm just confirm it.
Speaker 2: Even though I with two sources, I'm gonna try one
Speaker 2: more time, just to make sure that I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: miss smoke.
Speaker 1: Even still miss smoke, miss smoke now. But even still,
Speaker 1: a plane going down is going to hit a tree.
Speaker 1: It's gonna break some limbs, it's going to it may
Speaker 1: not go off into a fiery inferno and start to
Speaker 1: alasking forest fire. Like I understand that not every situation
Speaker 1: is gonna lead to something drastic, but from the rare
Speaker 1: occurrences of planes that do hit lakes and just go
Speaker 1: under the water, and it's hard to find them out
Speaker 1: of the millions of lakes that they have, Okay, I
Speaker 1: could at least understand a few of them. To hit
Speaker 1: a glacier and the glacier slowly moved on top of it. Whatever,
Speaker 1: you're still gonna see some sort of tree limbs fucked
Speaker 1: up from some kind of a thing impacting.
Speaker 2: Just a single bit of debris, anything that would show
Speaker 2: that there was a situation where a plane went down.
Speaker 2: We have all seen plane crashes and what they look like.
Speaker 2: There's nothing right. So, Alaska has an estimated three million lakes,
Speaker 2: including three thousand, one hundred and ninety seven that are
Speaker 2: officially named. The vast number is due to the state size,
Speaker 2: glacier history, and diverse geography.
Speaker 1: Wait, three million lakes and only thirty one hundred are named.
Speaker 2: M yep, Well, okay, it's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: That's that's a drop in the bucket pun intended. But like,
Speaker 1: are they calling every pond a lake?
Speaker 2: Uh? So? The three one hundred and ninety seven natural
Speaker 2: lakes are officially named, more than four hundred and nine
Speaker 2: thousand natural lakes at least one hecta How does that
Speaker 2: one acre?
Speaker 1: Hectar?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Hectaar. I always feel like I say stuff wrong,
Speaker 2: hector or bigger? Approximately sixty seven named artificial reservoirs, one
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty seven named dams.
Speaker 1: Okay, so, okay.
Speaker 2: There's quite a bit of stuff. But there's the majority
Speaker 2: of them are not named.
Speaker 1: Well, like they said, the majority of the state's uninhabited,
Speaker 1: so that it also checks.
Speaker 2: Out, but that still doesn't the ones the places where
Speaker 2: these things have gone missing though, just in the last
Speaker 2: the few that we've just covered, they don't have deep lakes.
Speaker 2: They would have been able to see something by now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so that's kind of an issue.
Speaker 1: But wow.
Speaker 2: So one of the other theories is that HARP is
Speaker 2: impacting so later on when HARP was created in nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety four, I believe.
Speaker 1: Allegedly, or at least that's when they finally told us
Speaker 1: what they were doing.
Speaker 2: Right, So allegedly it was created in the nineties. That
Speaker 2: doesn't explain though, from the fifties to the nineties, how
Speaker 2: many people have gone missing and what's been happening.
Speaker 1: Okay, this password, So for anybody who doesn't know what
Speaker 1: HARP is, quick rundown of it. In the current situation,
Speaker 1: as far as what they claim HARP is is the
Speaker 1: High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program such a weird.
Speaker 2: Word auroral, auroral a rural.
Speaker 1: So in twenty twenty six, Polar Aerononymy JESEU is another
Speaker 1: weird word and Radio Science or PARS Summer School announced
Speaker 1: that this is on the actual HARP website for the
Speaker 1: University of Alaska, Fairbanks. So about HARP. The High Frequency
Speaker 1: Active Auroral Research Program or HARP, is a scientific endeavor
Speaker 1: aimed at studying the properties and behaviors of the ionosphere.
Speaker 1: The ionosphere stretches roughly fifty to four hundred miles above
Speaker 1: Earth's surface, right at the edge of space.
Speaker 3: Fifty two four hundred, like between fifty and four hundred,
Speaker 3: I know, but it's like, could you just pick a
Speaker 3: number and be like, you know what it's like here?
Speaker 1: That's the edge of space according to these people, because
Speaker 1: that's a three hundred and fifty mile gap that they
Speaker 1: claim is the edge.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah.
Speaker 2: So I mean, if you believe that space is real,
Speaker 2: I you know quite a few people that are quote
Speaker 2: that do not believe space is real. So potentially this
Speaker 2: could be doing other things besides gauging the ionosphere, which.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about continuing here. It says, along
Speaker 1: with the neutral upper atmosphere, the ionosphere forms the boundary
Speaker 1: between the Earth's lower atmosphere, where we live and breathe,
Speaker 1: and the vacuum of space. That's a direct quote from
Speaker 1: old NASA operation to The research facility was transferred from
Speaker 1: the United States Air Force to the University of Alaska,
Speaker 1: Fairbanks on August the eleventh, twenty fifteen, allowing HARP to
Speaker 1: continue with exploration of ionospheric phenomenology phenomenology Jesus via a
Speaker 1: land use a cooperative research and development agreement. So the
Speaker 1: government's still using it, but they're letting the college students
Speaker 1: do the grunt work. That's essentially what I just heard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could be wrong here anyway. HARP is the world's
Speaker 1: most capable high power, high frequency transit for study of
Speaker 1: the ionosphere. The HARP program is committed to developing a
Speaker 1: world class ionospheric research facility consisting of number one, the
Speaker 1: Ionospheric Research Instrument, a high power transmitter facility operating in
Speaker 1: the high frequency range. The IRI can be used to
Speaker 1: temporarily excite a limited area of ionosphere for scientific study.
Speaker 1: So they're already saying that they can manipulate the ionosphere
Speaker 1: with this device, yes, okay, and two or B a
Speaker 1: sophisticated suite of scientific or diagnostic instruments that can be
Speaker 1: used to observe the physical processes that occur in the
Speaker 1: excited region. So this whole program is to fuck with
Speaker 1: ionosphere and then document what happens next.
Speaker 2: Yes, pretty much, there is one hundred and eighty radio
Speaker 2: antennas in rows. They're set up in rows, and when
Speaker 2: they turn them on they create a false aurora. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they can obviously we all believe that they are
Speaker 2: fucking with the weather.
Speaker 1: They're making northern lights happen.
Speaker 2: Yes, officially, yes, and so without saying so many words,
Speaker 2: they can absolutely cause weather manipulation and they can cause
Speaker 2: I believe that they are fucking with our weather and
Speaker 2: causing catastrophic events to happen.
Speaker 1: And that's not even like a hot take. No, but
Speaker 1: we know that cloud seating is a thing. The floods
Speaker 1: that happen in Texas happened right after a company was
Speaker 1: cloud seating just to the north of there. Like it's
Speaker 1: it's not even a crazy theory to think that when
Speaker 1: you're fucking with things in the ion a sphere, all
Speaker 1: the weather that's happening underneath it.
Speaker 2: Well, also Alaska has the cloud machines too. Yes, they
Speaker 2: are massive and they are one hundred percent there, so
Speaker 2: they're artificially making clouds. Then they have this that's messing
Speaker 2: with the IONO sphere, and we have cloud seating. And
Speaker 2: they have also figured out how to change and manipulate
Speaker 2: the strength of hurricane m what direction they go, how
Speaker 2: big they get.
Speaker 1: And it's just that all has to do with the
Speaker 1: I honest fear that has to the pressure in the sky.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, but I'm just kind of like nicing out
Speaker 2: different things that they know how to do.
Speaker 1: So absolutely and so so look at all this evidence
Speaker 1: that we know, beyond any shadow of any doubt. This
Speaker 1: is in a conspiratorial hot take. This is what scientists
Speaker 1: have acknowledged that they can do. Not fringe, not whistleblowers. No, No,
Speaker 1: they're very loud and proud about the research and the
Speaker 1: work that they're doing in this regard. Then think about this,
Speaker 1: good cult members. For any of the big cold fronts
Speaker 1: that move across our country, where do they originate from?
Speaker 1: They don't come from Texas to the north. They come
Speaker 1: from the Pacific northwest and Alaska down towards the southeast,
Speaker 1: almost as if they're being generated from Alaska. If you
Speaker 1: see what we're saying, almost.
Speaker 2: So harp impacting this area as considered, maybe that's what's
Speaker 2: causing the electromagnetic fields go awry and potentially opening up
Speaker 2: portals into other dimensions, and that's where all these planes
Speaker 2: and people are going could be. Maybe it's strong, maybe
Speaker 2: it drew in the aliens. But see this was only
Speaker 2: created in the nineties on up. That's what they allegedly,
Speaker 2: that's what they've been using. Would it be a far
Speaker 2: fetch to say that potentially the Aliens gave us as
Speaker 2: technology and they shared it with us when we you know,
Speaker 2: made a deal or something. I don't know, there's This
Speaker 2: is just one of the mini theories as to what
Speaker 2: could be happening to all the people and all the planes.
Speaker 1: I could also see if hypothetically Alaska in this triangle
Speaker 1: has some sort of a secret alien base. And yes,
Speaker 1: I know it sounds far bear with the good cult members.
Speaker 1: If that is the fact, would it not also stand
Speaker 1: a reason that they would the Aliens give the US
Speaker 1: government some sort of a thing to use as a
Speaker 1: protected barrier for said base. Right, not even just to like,
Speaker 1: oh they're final too close, hit them with some lightning,
Speaker 1: nothing even to that realm, but just to throw it
Speaker 1: out here to say hypothetically that the aliens are like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, We're good to operate here, but we
Speaker 1: need to be able to send signals into space to
Speaker 1: reach out to our homies. Okay, so we're giving you
Speaker 1: this harp thing, and yeah, you could use it to
Speaker 1: make some pretty lights. And yeah, I'm sure you could
Speaker 1: make some of what were those things you call them
Speaker 1: humans clouds? Sure you can make some clouds with it,
Speaker 1: but we need to use it from time to time
Speaker 1: to like et phone home that shit. And so could
Speaker 1: it also be that this was given to us by
Speaker 1: the aliens, but not even to help or hurt us.
Speaker 1: It's more like we get to use it and use
Speaker 1: the byproducts of it, but in reality it's just being
Speaker 1: used as their own version of a radio.
Speaker 2: That that's a good theory, to be honest with you.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a hundred needy antennas, so projecting, I
Speaker 2: don't know, wild wild times. So we're going to kind
Speaker 2: of go into the science behind the vortex energy explain
Speaker 2: there is a lot of different theories talking about what
Speaker 2: this is. I actually try to find real scientific information
Speaker 2: on it, and I was not able to find a lot.
Speaker 2: I found a lot of spiritual websites that were talking
Speaker 2: about this and how this pertains to spiritual things instead
Speaker 2: the metaphysical circles and things like that. But I figured
Speaker 2: we would touch on it because it was brought up many,
Speaker 2: many times and it's something that we just need to
Speaker 2: kind of talk about. That is a very large theory
Speaker 2: when it comes to what's happening to people.
Speaker 1: Yeahll y'all need to be so grateful too, Raven Lee,
Speaker 1: because I wasn't even trying to shit on the Woo
Speaker 1: wu community on this one. The Internet did that for me,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, we got to talk about
Speaker 1: this because apparently as soon as you bring up energy
Speaker 1: vortex as everyone goes on about Sedona and there is
Speaker 1: so so many things poke fun at as far as
Speaker 1: that goes. But she decided that would be best for
Speaker 1: us to not do that. So again, for any of
Speaker 1: the Woo Woo people that are listening to this show
Speaker 1: that don't like my hot takes on your ideologies, thank
Speaker 1: Raven Lee for this one. Okay, you're welcome. I'm just saying, so, okay,
Speaker 1: let's get into it. The science behind vortex energy explained.
Speaker 1: Vortex energy is a fascinating concept that has gained attention
Speaker 1: in both scientific and metaphysical circles Jesus. The phenomenon is
Speaker 1: often associated with the idea of energy swirling in a
Speaker 1: spiral motion, creating unique properties and effects not commonly observed
Speaker 1: in linear systems. Understanding vortex energy requires delving into the
Speaker 1: principles of fluid dynamics, electromagnetism, and even ancient wisdom traditions
Speaker 1: that speak of energetic patterns. All right, this article aims
Speaker 1: to explore the scientific basis of vortex energy, its applications,
Speaker 1: and its implications for our understanding of energy systems. Okay,
Speaker 1: very well, let's continue here. So what is vortex energy
Speaker 1: At its core? Vortex energy refers to the kinetic energy
Speaker 1: associated with rational motion in fluids or fields. In physics,
Speaker 1: a vortex is characterized by a flow pattern in which
Speaker 1: the fluid moves in a circular path around a center axis.
Speaker 1: This can be observed in various natural phenomenas, such as whirlpools, tornadoes,
Speaker 1: and hurricanes. The swirling motion creates areas of low pressure
Speaker 1: at the center, allowing for unique interactions with surrounding matter
Speaker 1: and energy. Okay, I don't know if this article is
Speaker 1: going to get into it or not, but earlier I
Speaker 1: mentioned this. So if they are spinning counterclockwise, that's like
Speaker 1: a negative thing. If they're spinning clockwise, it's a positive thing.
Speaker 2: I believe.
Speaker 1: So, so typhoons are considered a positive thing.
Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, might get into it here.
Speaker 6: I want to.
Speaker 1: I want to put words in the author's mouth. Here
Speaker 1: mathematical foundations. So the study of vortex dynamics can be
Speaker 1: grounded in fluid mechanics, where the equations governing fluid flow
Speaker 1: are derived from the Navier Stokes equations GOS. But forever
Speaker 1: since I heard these names, since I wasn't in college.
Speaker 1: These equations described how the velocity field of a fluid
Speaker 1: evolves over time. When dealing with vortices specifically, researchers often
Speaker 1: employ concepts like vorticis for vorticity, circulation, and rotational flow.
Speaker 1: So vorticity is a measure of the local rotation of
Speaker 1: the fluid. It quantifies how much of fluid elements spins
Speaker 1: around a point. Okay. Circulation a line integral that quantifies
Speaker 1: the total rotation around a closed loop through the velocity
Speaker 1: field Helmholtz theorems. Okay. These are foundational results that describe
Speaker 1: how vortices behave in inviscid or viscid excuse me, or
Speaker 1: non viscous fluids, emphasizing their stability and persistence. Okay, interesting,
Speaker 1: So energy conversion. One of the intriguing aspects of vortex
Speaker 1: energy is its ability to convert between different forms of energy.
Speaker 1: When a fluid flows through a constriction or around an obstacle,
Speaker 1: it can create vortices that trap energy. This trapped energy
Speaker 1: can then be harnessed or utilized for various applications. Yeah.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, we use we call it
Speaker 1: a vortex meter as a way to measure the rate
Speaker 1: of flow between a pipe. And essentially it's a thing
Speaker 1: of a pipe that's got a little flag in the
Speaker 1: middle of it, and as things flow through it, the
Speaker 1: flag moves back and forth, creating vortices off of it.
Speaker 1: A meter then picks up those vortices and you calibrate
Speaker 1: it depending on the viscosity of the liquid that's going
Speaker 1: through the pipe, and you're able to tell how many
Speaker 1: gallon permitt it are flowing through said pipe. So, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: let's get into it. So the applications of vortex energy,
Speaker 1: the principles behind vortex energy have found applications across multiple fields,
Speaker 1: from engineering to alternative medicine. Below are some notable examples
Speaker 1: engineering and technology. In engineering contexts, vortex dynamics are crucial
Speaker 1: for improving efficiency in various systems. Absolutely vortex generators. These
Speaker 1: are devices used to enhance airflow over surfaces like airplane
Speaker 1: wings or turbine blades. By creating small vortices, they help
Speaker 1: reduce drag and increase lift. Okay. Hydrodynamic turbins. The design
Speaker 1: of certain turbines leverages vortex formation to optimize waterflow and
Speaker 1: capture energy more effectively. Interesting so renewable energy when in
Speaker 1: hydroelectric power generation can significantly benefit from principles of vortex
Speaker 1: energy wind turbines, for example, research into optimizing blade design
Speaker 1: often looks at how vortices can be controlled to maximize
Speaker 1: energy capture while minimizing noise and wear. Hydrokinetic energy technologies
Speaker 1: seeking to harness ocean currents utilize vortex dynamics to create
Speaker 1: efficient underwater turbines. Okay, very good, Very good Now health
Speaker 1: and wellness. In alternative medicine, vortex energy is sometimes linked
Speaker 1: to concepts like key or Chi chi chi and Prana
Speaker 1: energy is to believe to flow through everything in nature
Speaker 1: energetic healing practices. Some practitioners claim that they can channel
Speaker 1: or harness vortex energy for healing purposes, arguing that it
Speaker 1: aids in balancing physical and emotional states.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so using the chakras and stuff like that. Ah,
Speaker 2: it's the balance and being able to harness the energy
Speaker 2: and you know, using it for healing purposes. Because of
Speaker 2: aoud has vibrations and energy within each cell, and so
Speaker 2: using it to try and heal it or make it
Speaker 2: more balanced and things like that.
Speaker 1: I understand that everything is a series of frequencies and
Speaker 1: vibrations and everything has an energy to I get this.
Speaker 1: My question is what kind of vortices are you sending
Speaker 1: through your body? Like if you're sitting in like a whirlpool,
Speaker 1: you mean, like and if you're using that kind of ordicy,
Speaker 1: I guess. But if you're just like thinking of a
Speaker 1: vortesy hard enough, is that supposed to be the secret.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I would have to look up more of what
Speaker 2: in particular they're referencing to you.
Speaker 8: I know.
Speaker 2: It's so talking about using chi and yoga and things
Speaker 2: like that, and different kind of maybe reiki and different
Speaker 2: things potentially with sound too to help.
Speaker 1: I know. When I was doing some research into this episode,
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of things about Sedona, and apparently
Speaker 1: there's like four vortices in the Sedona Desert, and these
Speaker 1: people were basically just like meditating on the vortices, not
Speaker 1: like within them, obviously, but like miles away from where
Speaker 1: these vortices are supposed to be happening, or vortexes are
Speaker 1: supposed to be happening, and they were just like thinking
Speaker 1: about them really hard. And there was ten people that
Speaker 1: I saw doing this in some way, shape or form.
Speaker 1: All ten of them were doing it in different ways,
Speaker 1: and all claimed that their way was the best way.
Speaker 1: I don't know enough to speak intelligently on it, but.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to read more about it as we
Speaker 2: sit here and look at it. So it talks about facility, healing, transformation,
Speaker 2: and rejuvenation. It's actually by the same people talking about
Speaker 2: there's more into it, the science behind it. The same
Speaker 2: people that what the same people that we're reading right
Speaker 2: now has another article about this. So there's like steps
Speaker 2: creating a sacred space environment conducive to healing is vital.
Speaker 2: Choose a quiet area free from distractions, where you feel
Speaker 2: safe and comfortable. Considering incorporating elements that resonate with you,
Speaker 2: such as crystal candles and sential oils, common music to
Speaker 2: help with the ambiance. Ground yourself is critical. So working
Speaker 2: with high frequency energies like vortex energy techniques such as
Speaker 2: deep breathing, walking barefoot or natural surfaces, or visualizing roots
Speaker 2: extending from your body into the earth can help stabilize
Speaker 2: your energy before you can begin your practice. Set it
Speaker 2: clear intentions. Clarity around your intentions creates a powerful focus
Speaker 2: for your healing journey. Reflect on what you want to
Speaker 2: heal or transform in your life, but it be it
Speaker 2: physical elements, emotional struggles, or mental blocks. It talks about
Speaker 2: clearing before entering in your vortex meditation or practice that
Speaker 2: talks about doing meditation, visualized breathing, breathings. Focus on your breathing,
Speaker 2: visualized healing, stay present. There's visualizing techniques the energy flow,
Speaker 2: which is actually I will touch on this. So when
Speaker 2: you use hypno birthing, there is a part of it
Speaker 2: that talks about the orange glow and so as you
Speaker 2: listen to these hypno birthing sessions, so there's multiple sessions
Speaker 2: that you listen to and within them you create. So
Speaker 2: this is my own. This is my big experience when
Speaker 2: it comes to meditation and hypnosis and things like this.
Speaker 2: One of the big things is that you create an
Speaker 2: orange bubble of peace, is what it's called. And so
Speaker 2: she has you visualize as you're falling asleep, because you
Speaker 2: will fall asleep. To this woman's voice, I don't care
Speaker 2: what you will do. I could never stay awake, but
Speaker 2: all of it sunk into me because as it played
Speaker 2: while I was slept, it was sinking into my subconscious
Speaker 2: and she created I really struggled with this because I
Speaker 2: have a hard time letting go of things and clearing
Speaker 2: my mind. And so I do know a lot of
Speaker 2: other people that have used it that had this. We're
Speaker 2: able to create this orange bubble of piece around them.
Speaker 2: And so when you start to be in physical discomfort
Speaker 2: and you start to have waves i e. Contractions, you
Speaker 2: find this bubble that pretty much starts at the top
Speaker 2: and pretty much like a melts down over your body
Speaker 2: and you can touch it. You do a light finger,
Speaker 2: so you drop a finger and that's when you go
Speaker 2: into hypnosis, a hypnotic state. So beforehand, your present cognitive
Speaker 2: what's going on you listen to her as you're in
Speaker 2: labored depending on what part of labor that you're in,
Speaker 2: is where you start your tracks. You drop your finger
Speaker 2: and you go into a hypnotic state. Once from there
Speaker 2: you can create use this bubble of piece and well
Speaker 2: you use the orange glow pretty much to help mitigate
Speaker 2: the pain. You transform in your mind where you like
Speaker 2: how you're visualizing the pain, so you're no longer in pain.
Speaker 2: You call them waves instead of contractions, so you replace
Speaker 2: the negative connotation. And then you actually try to relax
Speaker 2: and release your body by using a keyword and being
Speaker 2: able to relax into it and saying that, I you know, peace.
Speaker 2: She says peace a lot, and she's like peace, peace,
Speaker 2: and she different different things like this, and so it's
Speaker 2: not everything works for everyone, but I will say there
Speaker 2: is a part of it that you're supposed to be
Speaker 2: able to transform and push towards where you're feeling the
Speaker 2: most discomfort and being able to relieve that because you're
Speaker 2: no longer fighting against your body, you're no longer in
Speaker 2: fly or fight mode, and so now you're in a
Speaker 2: relaxed hypnotic state and you're taking away that pain element.
Speaker 2: So when It talks about energy flowing and your picture
Speaker 2: of funnel shape of vortex above your head pulling the
Speaker 2: universal healing energy as it descends through your body from
Speaker 2: head to toe. Imagine it washing over you and taking
Speaker 2: away the negative and pain. I one hundred percent have
Speaker 2: done this and can believe in this visualization. Releasing, chanting,
Speaker 2: tuning forks. I love tuning forks. By the way, they're
Speaker 2: fantastic movement practices, so tai chi is one of them.
Speaker 2: It's the ancient Chinese practice focus on moving med meditative
Speaker 2: postures that align with breath and physical movement, promoting well
Speaker 2: being while connecting you to natural energies. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you've ever done chai chi. No, It's very slow
Speaker 2: and like methodical, and you really have to focus on
Speaker 2: releasing yourself and bringing relaxing. It is very relaxing. You
Speaker 2: have to bring in the energy of the earth into
Speaker 2: you and you want to like ground yourself, and a
Speaker 2: lot of times you do it outdoors and you ground
Speaker 2: yourself to the to you know, obviously the grass, and
Speaker 2: you're feeling you kind of get into a more meditative
Speaker 2: state of releasing your energy into the negative energy and
Speaker 2: taking in the positive energy. So that's the exchange of
Speaker 2: the vortex. Dancing is a big one, nature connection is
Speaker 2: a big one, mindfulness practices, community engagement. So pretty much
Speaker 2: all of those things I've actually done the majority of those.
Speaker 1: Actually Okay, hell yeah, I don't really see how that
Speaker 1: has any play on the aliens in Alaska.
Speaker 2: But like, well, so, I mean it's talking about energy
Speaker 2: vor taxes in the sense of having that there is
Speaker 2: real scientific things that we just read about. Ye, so
Speaker 2: using the wind, turbines and stuff using energy. And then
Speaker 2: it's also talking about using the energy in and of
Speaker 2: itself as a healing method or practice into healing your
Speaker 2: body and your mind in some way.
Speaker 1: I'm not against this, I guess my question is, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if there really is a definitive answer
Speaker 1: on this, how all right, So what would one do
Speaker 1: to make these vortexes affect their body's molecular structure? Other?
Speaker 1: I mean, are we talking about just meditating and thinking
Speaker 1: of the vortexes? Are we talking about?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So the metaphysical is a lot to do thinking about
Speaker 2: the intent behind things. So when you are meditating and
Speaker 2: you're doing hypnosis where you're doing grounding and cleansing, exercises
Speaker 2: and things like that. You're drawing in from the natural
Speaker 2: free energy that's floating around obviously, because we know that
Speaker 2: energy is being exchanged between everything. When you're touching grass
Speaker 2: and you're out nature and doing those things, you're taking
Speaker 2: from the earth. You're taking energy from the earth and
Speaker 2: you are replacing it with your energy. And a lot
Speaker 2: of it has to do with the unseen and a
Speaker 2: lot of people feel better, i e. Releasing stress, cortisol,
Speaker 2: those kind of things.
Speaker 1: But how much of that is physically how much of
Speaker 1: that is within the mind, And I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: diminish it by saying that the mind is an insanely
Speaker 1: powerful thing. How much of that is actually some sort
Speaker 1: of an energy exchange with the earth. And somebody feeling
Speaker 1: like they feel so much better after taking a minute
Speaker 1: and just breathing and relaxing.
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing, though. Scientifically, breathing and relaxing and
Speaker 2: meditating releases the releases a excuse me, a multitude of hormones, sure,
Speaker 2: and is getting you into a better state overall. So
Speaker 2: it's actually physically healing you. It really it's releasing the
Speaker 2: stress hormones, which causes a lot of issues with your stomach,
Speaker 2: you got your anxiety, all of these things.
Speaker 1: Not denying that. My question is how much of that
Speaker 1: is because of walking around barefoot, and how much of
Speaker 1: that is within the human mind itself.
Speaker 2: I think it's a mixture of both, to be honest
Speaker 2: with you, Because you know that energy is flowing. We
Speaker 2: can't see all the energy. We know that we're we
Speaker 2: are connected to the earth. We are exchanging with the earth.
Speaker 2: We know, just like the funguses that are singing to
Speaker 2: each other and that are causing melodies, and that we
Speaker 2: impact how plants even grow and how much they produce
Speaker 2: by what we say and how we act. It's fair
Speaker 2: to say that us taking energy from the Earth and
Speaker 2: them and releasing our own own energy into it, we're
Speaker 2: still having some type of exchange. Now on what level,
Speaker 2: I'm not certain on that, but I know at least
Speaker 2: from my own personal beliefs. Have you ever done have
Speaker 2: you ever walked in the Big circles the spirals labyrinth? Yeah?
Speaker 2: The labyrinth? I just was. I was still explained like
Speaker 2: that because.
Speaker 1: I've got my own personal beliefs on those, so I
Speaker 1: can say no, I have not.
Speaker 2: Okay, So there's one at a place that I go,
Speaker 2: a retreat that I try to go to every year,
Speaker 2: and it has it's by a beautiful river, and it's
Speaker 2: hand made by a lot of people that have been there.
Speaker 2: And I'm not very good at meditation, but I will
Speaker 2: say while walking that and in deep thought and I
Speaker 2: was barefoot in the snow, it was definitely it definitely
Speaker 2: felt like I cleansed myself. I felt better, I slept better,
Speaker 2: I ate better, I was I felt better for weeks afterwards.
Speaker 2: I did this and a lot of it I think
Speaker 2: has to do with intention in your mind and also
Speaker 2: potentially with actual release of energy into the earth and
Speaker 2: receiving energy as well. I think that it's probably more
Speaker 2: in the mental aspect of things. But that's kind of
Speaker 2: like prayer. Though a lot of people pray and they.
Speaker 1: Feel that's two very different things because.
Speaker 2: You're still you're sharing in your intent, you're praying, and
Speaker 2: it makes people feel better to go to church and
Speaker 2: feel better to pray.
Speaker 1: Okay, and church and prayer two different things. So this
Speaker 1: kind of goes into what my next question was. This
Speaker 1: was at a retreat that you go to back in Oregon. Okay,
Speaker 1: are you saying that you couldn't have had this experience
Speaker 1: in your backyard.
Speaker 2: I don't think so, to be honest with you, this
Speaker 2: place is sacred ground like it's been. It's been the
Speaker 2: way that it was established was through a lot of
Speaker 2: love and communion. It Actually it's really weird. So the
Speaker 2: fires that burn burn everything around it for probably about
Speaker 2: seven twenty five hundred miles. Everything leading up to it
Speaker 2: was burned, but the entire place steed pretty much. There
Speaker 2: is one house that they get burned, but everything pretty
Speaker 2: much steyed true to that area.
Speaker 1: So again, maybe not your backyard. I'm saying, like in
Speaker 1: nature in general, breathing fresh air, touching it, No, I
Speaker 1: would think the steps of this meditation in this labyrinth
Speaker 1: in on your own, could you have achieved the same
Speaker 1: level of cleansing and rejuvenation.
Speaker 2: Obviously, I mean probably, But I've truly believe that there
Speaker 2: is a special type of energy at this location that
Speaker 2: you can't describe it unless you've been there and you
Speaker 2: just you release yourself into nature. It's such a deeply
Speaker 2: cleansing place, and it's like all the negative intents of
Speaker 2: outside world are no longer there. It's just really kind
Speaker 2: of a releasing, spiritual place to go to that a
Speaker 2: lot of people go to just reset their whole bodies
Speaker 2: and reset their minds and stuff.
Speaker 1: And I don't inherently disagree with this. For instance, I
Speaker 1: go on to retreat once a year, right, and I
Speaker 1: do believe there's something special about the location itself. Now,
Speaker 1: same playing Devil's advocate to myself here. It could I
Speaker 1: have gone through the retreat manual at my house and
Speaker 1: gotten the same level of peace and enlightenment if we're
Speaker 1: gonna use these terms from going and just doing it
Speaker 1: on my own. Probably, But I do enjoy going to
Speaker 1: the location itself. I do feel like there's something special there.
Speaker 1: So I get where you're coming from with this. But
Speaker 1: the whole thing about intent that has always been a
Speaker 1: bit of a hiccup for me personally. I feel like
Speaker 1: intent plays very little into the actual grand scheme of shit.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it depends on the situation, right, depends on the
Speaker 1: paradigm that you find yourself in. I suppose like you
Speaker 1: can cook somebody a meal with hatred in your heart
Speaker 1: and it will still nourish their body. Meanwhile, you could
Speaker 1: cook a meal for somebody with love in your heart
Speaker 1: and it will still nourish their bodies. I mean, I
Speaker 1: get the uh, the idea behind intent and all these things,
Speaker 1: but like it's the same thing, like meditation and prayer
Speaker 1: to completely different conversations going to church versus praying at home.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard so many people say one way
Speaker 1: or another is better. I have had some very deeply
Speaker 1: moving prayers at my house, and I've also gone to
Speaker 1: church and gotten nothing out of it before and vice versa.
Speaker 1: So I don't I think intent plays very little to it.
Speaker 1: But you know, I understand that I am the outlier
Speaker 1: on this one.
Speaker 2: I mean I think, like, have you met somebody with
Speaker 2: evil intent in their hearts?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 2: And you can feel it off them, you can like
Speaker 2: physically feel the evil coming from them. Sure, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think that is I think there is a lot to
Speaker 2: say with intent in a lot of different ways. Like
Speaker 2: you can feel a lot of people's intentions.
Speaker 1: But these people also have thriving gardens and shit, it's
Speaker 1: not like their entire life is crumbling around them because
Speaker 1: they are evil. That you know that that depends on
Speaker 1: so many other factors rather than what just intent, You
Speaker 1: see what I mean.
Speaker 2: I mean, I understand where you're coming from. I just
Speaker 2: don't particularly agree with everything, but yeah, no, when getting
Speaker 2: back to this, that's kind of what they're talking about,
Speaker 2: is the intent and the energetic healing practices of it.
Speaker 1: And I'm still lost on the whole vortex's thing. Like
Speaker 1: I get what they're trying to say as far as
Speaker 1: like vortex in industry and in the industry whatever fluid mechanics.
Speaker 1: I get this with you one hundred percent. Are you
Speaker 1: sending a vortex through your body or like uh, like
Speaker 1: breaking up a kidney stone, like lip a tripsy, you're
Speaker 1: sending vortices through your body to break them up, And
Speaker 1: if we're using it in that principle not just to
Speaker 1: break up kidney stones, but even if you're sitting in
Speaker 1: a hot tub or a whirlpool of some kind and
Speaker 1: that is giving you some sort of a chemical vortex
Speaker 1: exchange like you're talking about. Okay, we could I with you.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the science says on this, but
Speaker 1: I could at least see it. I don't understand how
Speaker 1: these people are using vortexes to do energetic healing practices.
Speaker 1: And I'm not shitting one. I just don't understand it.
Speaker 2: I mean I did kind of explain it about how
Speaker 2: you use it and stuff. I mean so just mental,
Speaker 2: it's mentally and physical. So you're for your example of water.
Speaker 2: So the location I go has natural hot springs, multiple
Speaker 2: of them on site location, and it has a house
Speaker 2: that is built from wooden. It was built in nineteen seventies.
Speaker 2: It is a steamhouse that's over flowing natural water that
Speaker 2: is very flip and hot, and it naturally steams in
Speaker 2: all these things, and so I could one of the
Speaker 2: things that is so cleansing about this place in particular
Speaker 2: is that you get into these natural hot springs and
Speaker 2: it feels like everything is lifted out of you. You
Speaker 2: kind of. At one point I was it was like
Speaker 2: two am in the morning and I'm just laying in
Speaker 2: this water just it's dropping rain on me, and I'm
Speaker 2: staring up at the sky and I feel like, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm starting to go through and through all the different
Speaker 2: things in my life that I'm thinking about, and I'm
Speaker 2: trying to release all of these emotions and these thoughts
Speaker 2: and things like that. And I feel like the fluidity
Speaker 2: of the water helps with releasing all of this because
Speaker 2: it's just so at peace and so common. It I
Speaker 2: can't see, I can't speak for what they're particularly using
Speaker 2: it for risks.
Speaker 1: Going on within this water or is it just like
Speaker 1: a hot spring.
Speaker 2: It's a hot spring, it's moving, it's you know, flowing
Speaker 2: and things like that. So Okay, I don't I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think we're like having to be I don't
Speaker 2: think it's being so literalis in to saying the spiral vortex.
Speaker 2: I will say that one of the guys that I
Speaker 2: did watch talk about this was from nineteen seventy two,
Speaker 2: was a man in Florida and he actually flew a
Speaker 2: plane that was from one point to another, and pretty
Speaker 2: much what he said is that he entered it into
Speaker 2: this vortex in the sky where he saw lines in
Speaker 2: the He saw pretty much the fabric of the universe
Speaker 2: versus what he called it, and it had lines and
Speaker 2: it was like a circling pattern. And what would normally
Speaker 2: take him ninety four minutes to fly that he's flown
Speaker 2: millions of times and a certain amount of gas. It
Speaker 2: was like forty seven gallons of gas. He flew in
Speaker 2: forty seven minutes and only used twenty seven gallons of gas,
Speaker 2: and he has the receipts to prove it.
Speaker 1: I would like to do more digging on him for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I had it pulled up. I watched
Speaker 2: the whole thing on him. But he talked about how
Speaker 2: he was like, this is what I saw, this is
Speaker 2: what I experienced. People don't want to believe me, but
Speaker 2: here's the receipts of what I have. He had how
Speaker 2: long it took him from pointing to point B, and
Speaker 2: he had how much gallon of fluid that he used,
Speaker 2: and then he showed all the other times that he's
Speaker 2: flown it.
Speaker 1: And it's heard from a pilot from Mexico that had
Speaker 1: something similar like this happened. I don't know about the
Speaker 1: vortexes and the stuff in the sky, but as far
Speaker 1: as just flying along point A to point B and
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, he just like jumped miles and miles
Speaker 1: of miles.
Speaker 2: So this is that's believed to be some type of
Speaker 2: energy vortex. So when it pertains to the Alaska conversation,
Speaker 2: is that potentially these planes that are disappearing are going
Speaker 2: into an energy vortex that might be a portal that's
Speaker 2: opening up to something else.
Speaker 1: Okay, So.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's where this whole vortex conversation comes into play,
Speaker 2: and Also the reports like I talked about earlier, where
Speaker 2: people had stated that it had altered mental stat states,
Speaker 2: emotional states when they were around certain places inside the triangle.
Speaker 2: So this could be something where the energy is giving
Speaker 2: off and an actual emotional state response. They're having a
Speaker 2: physical or emotional reaction to the energy vortexes that potentially
Speaker 2: are around these locations or around the mountain where the
Speaker 2: alien bases.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess maybe so, Okay. Continuing on water structuring,
Speaker 1: certain proponents believe that vortexing water by spinning it can
Speaker 1: enhance its properties by restructuring its molecular arrangement, although scientific
Speaker 1: validation remains limited, I would assume so. But okay, Number
Speaker 1: four environmental sciences. Understanding how natural vortices operate is essential
Speaker 1: for modeling weather patterns and climate systems. Okay. Atmospheric vortices, tornadoes,
Speaker 1: and cyclones showcase how vortices can lead to significant weather
Speaker 1: phenomena impacting ecosystems and human activities. Pollution dispersion, Studying how
Speaker 1: vortices interact with pollutants helps in devising better strategies for
Speaker 1: environmental protection. Okay, all right, all right. The metaphysical perspective
Speaker 1: on vortex energy Beyond its scientific implications, Many cultures have
Speaker 1: attributed spiritual significance to vortex energy. These perspectives are rooted
Speaker 1: in ancient practices and philosophies that emphasize interconnectedness and holistic understanding. Okay,
Speaker 1: it sounds on par here sacred geometry al right. So
Speaker 1: in sacred geometry, certain shapes and patterns, such as spirals,
Speaker 1: are believed to possess energetic properties that resonate with natural laws.
Speaker 1: Many practitioners assert that these shapes facilitate the flow of
Speaker 1: vortex energy, influencing both physical surroundings and mental states. All right, okay,
Speaker 1: lay lines and vortex sites. Locations known as vortex sites
Speaker 1: are thought to be zones where Earth's magnetic fields intersect
Speaker 1: or where natural energies converge. Sedona Arizona, which has been
Speaker 1: brought up, is one such notable location where tourists flock
Speaker 1: for its supposed energetic benefits linked to whirlpool like formations.
Speaker 1: I am so pissed that you made me exit out
Speaker 1: of that YouTube video because my God would have played
Speaker 1: beautifully right now. But whatever, man, I'm shit shit anyway.
Speaker 1: Spiritual seekers often claim heightened intuition or clarity when meditating
Speaker 1: at these sites, and indeed they do. Scientific challenges and controversies.
Speaker 1: There's significant intrigues arounding vortex's energy, especially regarding its metaphysical interpretations.
Speaker 1: Scientific validation remains complex. That's very strategic wording, lack of
Speaker 1: empirical evidence. The claims made by practitioners about health benefits
Speaker 1: or spiritual enhancements associated with vortex energies lack rigorous statistical support.
Speaker 1: Scientific methodologies often demand replica replicability. Replicability, yeah, being able
Speaker 1: to replicate it under control conditions, which metaphysical claims rarely satisfy. Which, yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Because metaphysical claims are very personal to
Speaker 1: the individual. It's very hard to see it.
Speaker 2: I'd be very difficult to track unless maybe you potentially
Speaker 2: use the same candidate. But even then, it depends on
Speaker 2: what day. It depends on what's happening in your life
Speaker 2: that day or that time.
Speaker 1: What they eat for breakfast, well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how much do they sleep. I mean, all the
Speaker 2: things would impact it, so it would be quite challenging.
Speaker 2: I feel like maybe there would be a way to
Speaker 2: track the mootional status, like i e. Tracking the brain
Speaker 2: releasing chemicals or firing synapsis is while you perform some
Speaker 2: of these things, I would feel like could potentially be
Speaker 2: at least showing some of the energy exchange.
Speaker 1: But I could also see that going south real quickly
Speaker 1: to say like, oh, I wasn't able to get into
Speaker 1: that meditative state with all these diodes hooked up to
Speaker 1: my head.
Speaker 2: I mean, that would be quite hard for me.
Speaker 1: But I am not saying that's a diminish saying.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just I'm just trying to think of
Speaker 2: ways that they could maybe potentially scientifically explain some of this.
Speaker 2: But you know, there's not that I don't think this
Speaker 2: is one of those things that is high on the
Speaker 2: priority list of explaining right now.
Speaker 1: So integrating disciplines. One challenge faced by research is integrating
Speaker 1: findings across disciplines. The gap between traditional science focused on
Speaker 1: observable phenomena and subjective experiences described by spiritual practices poses
Speaker 1: an ongoing debate within academic circles. Well, yeah, as we
Speaker 1: have been saying, future directions in Vortec's energy research. As
Speaker 1: our understanding of both physical systems and energetic fields grows,
Speaker 1: future research on vortex energy may yield exciting insights novel
Speaker 1: material Investigations into materials engineered at the nanoscale could lead
Speaker 1: to the novel ways of manipulating fluid flow at tiny scales,
Speaker 1: potentially enhancing applications in microfluids or microfluid ix. Rather, energy management,
Speaker 1: advancements in computational modeling might lead to better predictions about
Speaker 1: how vortices behave under varying conditions, beneficial for both renewable
Speaker 1: energy technologies and environmental management, and then enterdisciplinary studies. Bridging
Speaker 1: gas between scientific inquiry or inquiry into physical phenomena like
Speaker 1: vortices with studies on human perception could lead to insights
Speaker 1: into our relationship with nature's energetics. Interesting such to the
Speaker 1: inconclusion here, vortex energy presents an interdisciplinary puzzle, combining elements
Speaker 1: from physical in nearing, environmental science, and even spirituality. While
Speaker 1: the scientific understanding continues to evolve through research into fluid
Speaker 1: dynamics and applications into technology, the intersection with metaphysical beliefs
Speaker 1: invites curiosity about how we connect with our environment on
Speaker 1: a deeper level. As we further explore this complex subject,
Speaker 1: we may find new ways to harness this intriguing force
Speaker 1: and perhaps even unlock more profound mysteries about our universe
Speaker 1: and existence itself. All right, then it is pretty.
Speaker 2: I thought, it's pretty cool to bring in all of
Speaker 2: this with this long conversation about these particular triangles. I mean, sure,
Speaker 2: think of the word I mean skate my mind.
Speaker 1: But again, this is if we are to believe that
Speaker 1: there is in fact vortex is going on in this
Speaker 1: area of Alaska, and.
Speaker 2: It's one of the big theories. This has been mentioned
Speaker 2: quite a few times when you look up the Alaskan
Speaker 2: Triangle as a theory.
Speaker 1: Now again, I looked up as far as to try
Speaker 1: to find some sort of a vortex is scientifically documented
Speaker 1: as far as Alaska is concerned, because like for instance,
Speaker 1: Sodona was brought up. Any hippie woo woo person will
Speaker 1: tell you Sedona is like the mecca for all spirituality
Speaker 1: in North America. Fine, cool, There is verified at least
Speaker 1: four vortex sites in the Sedona So all right, we
Speaker 1: can at least have that conversation as far as Alaska goes.
Speaker 1: I couldn't find any one thing to say that there is.
Speaker 1: I saw multiple things saying there's potential that there is.
Speaker 2: Yes, So the guy that we talked about earlier, don't.
Speaker 2: I forget what he's on, but when you look up
Speaker 2: energy vortex on YouTube, he's like the first guy that
Speaker 2: pops up. He's also on multiple of the videos discussing this,
Speaker 2: but he states that he was hired to prove pretty
Speaker 2: much that there is at least one or two energy
Speaker 2: vortexes there. I don't know if it's actually confirmed they
Speaker 2: are energy vartexes, but it does stand reason that there
Speaker 2: could be at least some there. So as another conspiracy
Speaker 2: to add to the list of the triangle, there is
Speaker 2: potentially for Texas that are leading to a different dimension,
Speaker 2: that are portals that are leading somewhere. They're sucking in
Speaker 2: the energy and I don't know what they're doing, but
Speaker 2: it's just another theory along the list of them.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is right now on screen, we have
Speaker 1: a short which is talking about how they are artificially
Speaker 1: making the northern lights in Alaska right now. This is
Speaker 1: it says, watch the birth of an auroral substorm. Watch
Speaker 1: this shit. So everything on screen right now they are
Speaker 1: making this.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, so that's coming from harp.
Speaker 1: Right because they are exciting the ionosphere, and so these
Speaker 1: college kids and government agencies are sending up basically, for
Speaker 1: lack of a better word, it's just electrostatic into the sky.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that to diminish it. I'm sure
Speaker 1: there's a way deeper explanation for what they're doing. But
Speaker 1: then they're able to track how it's moving, and they're
Speaker 1: making artificial Northern whites in Alaska.
Speaker 2: You know, just some things shouldn't be messed with.
Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me wrong. If it's something that
Speaker 1: they could do, I would love to go see it
Speaker 1: sounds dope, but it also seems very cold, right yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'm not about all that right now.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 2: So now we're going to get into the last few
Speaker 2: potential conspiracies when it's regarding the Alaskan Triangle and regarding
Speaker 2: Alaska in general and what could be potentially happening up there.
Speaker 2: So this article is from the New York Posts. There's
Speaker 2: actually quite a few articles when it talked about this,
Speaker 2: but it says UFO Trackers shows thousands of eerie underwater
Speaker 2: objects lurking along the US coast.
Speaker 1: Indeed, let's get into it here. I got a zoom in.
Speaker 1: This writing is small.
Speaker 2: Small, it's so small.
Speaker 1: UFO Reporting app has recorded thousands of sightings of unidentified
Speaker 1: submersible objects or USOS and near US waterways phenomena, which
Speaker 1: ranking US Navy officials Warren could pose a threat to
Speaker 1: national security. Well, yeah, I'll bet Enigma, which touts itself
Speaker 1: as the largest queriable historical sighting database for global UFO sightings,
Speaker 1: claims it has received reports on over thirty thousand unidentified
Speaker 1: flying objects and unidentified anomalous phenomena since launching the in
Speaker 1: late twenty twenty two. So in three years they have
Speaker 1: received over thirty thousand reports. Wow, and if we're going
Speaker 1: off with the same statistics that we could in the fifties,
Speaker 1: even if three percent of those are something that can't
Speaker 1: be easily quantifiable, that's still thousands of eyewitness accounts. They
Speaker 1: are being reported like that's insane. But the sightings haven't
Speaker 1: been limited to the skies, with reports also coming in
Speaker 1: about stre objects rising from the depths of the sea
Speaker 1: or plunging into the water without so much as a splash,
Speaker 1: which we have talked about a few times on screen
Speaker 1: on now we actually have a picture. Pentagon reviewed footage
Speaker 1: has documented instances of unidentified craft diving into or emerging
Speaker 1: from the water without damaging the vessel or even making
Speaker 1: a splash, prompting alarm for some officials, And we talked
Speaker 1: about that. There was a pilot that was watching it
Speaker 1: on his radar and everything else. There was ground radars
Speaker 1: that were watching it as well. This craft went from
Speaker 1: thirty thousand feet to three feet above the ocean's water,
Speaker 1: stopped for a second, went up again, and then went
Speaker 1: down and went straight into the water. Never slowed down,
Speaker 1: didn't slow down once it got into the water, never
Speaker 1: made a splash, nothing. It's defying all laws of physics.
Speaker 1: So by all accounts, it's something that humans didn't make.
Speaker 2: We know that much.
Speaker 1: As of August ENIGMA has also logged more than nine
Speaker 1: thousand mysterious sightings within ten miles of the US shorelines
Speaker 1: or major bodies of water, five hundred of them within
Speaker 1: five miles, with more than one hundred and fifty of
Speaker 1: these reports describing objects hovering above or descending into waterways.
Speaker 1: According to the Marine Technology News, the US states with
Speaker 1: the most reported uso sightings were California and Florida with
Speaker 1: three eighty nine and three six respectively, both among the
Speaker 1: top three US states of the most ocean coastline one
Speaker 1: of the most bizarre reports includes phone camera video of
Speaker 1: unexplained green lights traveling beneath the surface of the ocean,
Speaker 1: so on screen. And now we have a map of
Speaker 1: some of these sightings that we're seeing from basically around
Speaker 1: the world or around the US. Rather, the app has
Speaker 1: released mass plotting out the reporting sites or reported sightings,
Speaker 1: representing as clusters of orange dots running up and down
Speaker 1: the East and West coasts. UFO sightings are nothing new
Speaker 1: and often are dismissed as quack crack pottery by most
Speaker 1: of the scientific community or relegated to the stuff of
Speaker 1: science fiction. But retired Navy Rear Admiral Tim Galladay warrants
Speaker 1: UFOs with the ability to go from air to sea
Speaker 1: without crashing or even creating a splash could have world
Speaker 1: changing ramifications. And I have to agree the fact that
Speaker 1: the unidentified objects with unexplainable characteristics are entering US water
Speaker 1: space and the DoD is not raising a giant red
Speaker 1: flag is a sign that the government is not sharing
Speaker 1: all it knows about all domain anomalous phenomenon. He wrote
Speaker 1: that in March twenty twenty four's report alarm bells are raised.
Speaker 1: In July twenty nineteen when the uss Omaha recorded a
Speaker 1: UFO slash UAP that vanished into the ocean without a
Speaker 1: trace after buzzing a Navy fleet off the coast of
Speaker 1: San Diego. Video of the incident was verified by the
Speaker 1: Pentagon displaying capabilities. Galladay says jeopardized US maritime security, which
Speaker 1: is already weakened by our relative ignorance about the global ocean.
Speaker 1: In his twenty nine page report for UFO focused think
Speaker 1: tank the Soul Foundation, Goladay said there's a documented pattern
Speaker 1: of some more phenomenon being reported. Pilots, credible observers, and
Speaker 1: calibrated military instrumentation have recorded objects accelerating at rates and
Speaker 1: crossing the air sea interface in ways not possible for
Speaker 1: anything made by humans. He wrote, again, I couldn't agree
Speaker 1: more with this. So this is just a quick little
Speaker 1: look into the situation as far as the UAPs and
Speaker 1: UFOs go.
Speaker 2: Honestly, it was supposed to talk about Alaska too, but
Speaker 2: apparently off the coast of Alaska they have talked about
Speaker 2: there is maybe a large base underneath the ocean, and
Speaker 2: that that's contributing to them going down pretty much. Some
Speaker 2: of some of the planes going down could be and
Speaker 2: that there are They have talked about it that it's
Speaker 2: between the Soviet Union and Alaska as well.
Speaker 1: So I mean back in those days because right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and those little those little that little fifty six miles,
Speaker 2: is that maybe where that where one of them is interesting?
Speaker 1: Okay? So now we're going to share this other video here.
Speaker 1: This is from the History Channel. They did a documentary
Speaker 1: on mysteries hidden under Alaskan ice. Let's learn about this
Speaker 1: one together, y'all.
Speaker 10: Alaska the largest of all US states. It's home to
Speaker 10: the nation's highest peak, its biggest national park, and more
Speaker 10: coastline than all other states combined. For ancient astronaut theorists,
Speaker 10: the dense, uninhabited wilderness of Alaska conceals a multitude of
Speaker 10: mysteries and perhaps an extra terrestrial presence.
Speaker 11: Within this area, incredible amount of weird things take place.
Speaker 11: We have paranormal activity, the appearance of strange cryptids and
Speaker 11: other monsters of time and space, as well as the
Speaker 11: manifestation of UFI mysterious locks.
Speaker 10: Within this region of anomaloust activity stands Mount Hayes, one
Speaker 10: of Alaska's tallest peaks and a place where UFO signings
Speaker 10: are reported. With great frequency.
Speaker 12: Many people have seen UFOs flying saucers, strange lights flying
Speaker 12: in and around Mount Hayes. Now there's no road that
Speaker 12: can go up there. The only way to get to
Speaker 12: Mount Hayes is to actually fly there, which most people
Speaker 12: don't do. So what are these craft that are flying
Speaker 12: around Mount Hayes?
Speaker 10: For decades, eyewitness testimony was the only evidence to support
Speaker 10: the notion that Mount Hayes was a UFO hotspot, But
Speaker 10: in nineteen ninety five, declassified CIA documents revealed that Mount
Speaker 10: Hayes was the focus of a top secret government project
Speaker 10: called Stargate.
Speaker 9: Researchers were looking through CIA documents and they found evidence
Speaker 9: of a project underneath Mount Hayes. And they say they
Speaker 9: saw written in these records that it was actually an
Speaker 9: alien underground base in this area.
Speaker 10: Could there be a hidden extraterrestrial base in Alaska? While
Speaker 10: the idea sounds far fetched, In nineteen ninety two, US
Speaker 10: geologists detected a mysterious pyramidal object underneath Mount Denale. Seismic
Speaker 10: instruments revealed that the top of the five hundred and
Speaker 10: fifty foot tall pyramidal object lies one hundred and fifty
Speaker 10: feet below ground and just one hundred and thirty miles
Speaker 10: southwest of Mount Hayes. Many researchers believe it is an
Speaker 10: artificial structure, which has become known as the Dark Pyramid.
Speaker 12: The Dark Pyramid is this massive pyramid structure under Mount
Speaker 12: Dinale which is said to be twice the size of
Speaker 12: the Great Pyramid of Giza and made of black stone.
Speaker 10: Investigative journalist Linda molten Howe has spent years researching the
Speaker 10: Dark Pyramid and has interviewed a number of people who
Speaker 10: claim to have information about the mysterious underground structure, including
Speaker 10: one man who claims his father has actually been inside
Speaker 10: the Dark Pyramid.
Speaker 13: He said that his father was working for Western Electric
Speaker 13: and ended up as a very skilled electronic engineer, being
Speaker 13: asked to go to a location west of what with
Speaker 13: Mount Denali. His father told him there was a big
Speaker 13: freight elevator that was sticking up out of the ground
Speaker 13: and when he got to the bottom opened up into
Speaker 13: four or room work offices. The father is introduced to
Speaker 13: the fact that they are at the bottom of a
Speaker 13: pyramid and that each of the three corners they had
Speaker 13: these offices that were actually monitoring energy, and the father
Speaker 13: tells the son who got in touch with me. We
Speaker 13: are measuring energy coming out of this pyramid that is
Speaker 13: enough to power the entire country of Canada.
Speaker 14: The stories of the Dark Pyramid are pretty interesting, and
Speaker 14: you've got to wonder if there is not some kind
Speaker 14: of power plant that's there underground in the middle of Alaska,
Speaker 14: and if this Dark Pyramid isn't some kind of extraterrestrial base.
Speaker 10: Alaska's Aleutian Islands, where pilot THEO. Chesley encountered no less
Speaker 10: than four unidentified flying objects, is an area that has
Speaker 10: been known for strained sightings dating back to nineteen forty five,
Speaker 10: when a US Army transport reported seeing a large UFO
Speaker 10: emerged from the waters near the island of IDoc.
Speaker 14: Historically, there has been a lot of UFO sightings around
Speaker 14: the Aleutian Islands, and there are fifty seven volcanoes throughout
Speaker 14: the Aleutian Islands, and it seems that some of these
Speaker 14: volcanoes have some very peculiar activity around them.
Speaker 10: But east of the Aleutian Islands is a large area
Speaker 10: that has become even more notorious or strange phenomena. It
Speaker 10: is called the Alaska Triangle.
Speaker 15: The Alaska Triangle is an area roughly between Anchorage, Juno
Speaker 15: and Barrow, Alaska, more or less running along the border
Speaker 15: of the Canadian territories and the state of Alaska.
Speaker 16: The Alaska Triangle can be likened to the Bermuda Triangle,
Speaker 16: where really strange things happen seemingly without explanation. Within this
Speaker 16: region of anomalous activity stands Mount Hayes, one of Alaska's
Speaker 16: tallest peaks and a place where UFO sidings are reported
Speaker 16: with great frequency.
Speaker 12: Many people have seen UFOs flying, saucers, strange lights flying
Speaker 12: in and around Mount Hayes.
Speaker 1: Now there's no.
Speaker 12: Road that can go up there. The only way to
Speaker 12: get to Mount Hayes is to actually fly there, which
Speaker 12: most people don't do. So what are these craft that
Speaker 12: are flying around Mount Hayes?
Speaker 10: For decades, eyewitness testimony was the only evidence to support
Speaker 10: the notion that Mount Hayes was a UFO hotspot.
Speaker 1: So it seems like it's kind of repeating itself as
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, but it did give us a
Speaker 1: good breakdown of potentially what might be causing some of
Speaker 1: these issues around the Alaskan Triangle. Because when you look
Speaker 1: at where Mount Hayes is, it is dead center of
Speaker 1: the Alaskan Triangle, and then Mount Denali, which we have
Speaker 1: talked about before on the show, was renamed by President
Speaker 1: Obama hold Barack Hussein himself into Mount Denali to be
Speaker 1: the name of some sort of a Hindu god or
Speaker 1: some shit.
Speaker 2: Which I thought was kind of interesting. Like once I
Speaker 2: heard about this, I'm like, why would you specifically pick
Speaker 2: that god?
Speaker 1: I thought it was because of the Denali truck. I'm
Speaker 1: being honest. I was like I thought Obama was like,
Speaker 1: you know, being a homie on that, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: you might as well name the next mountain, you know,
Speaker 1: Mount Escalade. Like I thought that was the vibe, be honest,
Speaker 1: But apparently not. Apparently it was because of a god
Speaker 1: or some shit. But anyway, so this is a potential
Speaker 1: to what might be going on here. And next we're
Speaker 1: going to read this Mermuse website to talk about the Pyramid,
Speaker 1: the secret Pyramid of Alaska, forgotten monolith of the North,
Speaker 1: possibly allegedly potentially, So let's get into it here. Buried
Speaker 1: beneath the icy expanse of Alaska's wilderness, rumors persist of
Speaker 1: an ancient and immense pyramid, a structure said to rival
Speaker 1: the Great Pyramid of Giza in both size and mystery,
Speaker 1: refer to alternately as the Dark Pyramid or the Black Pyramid.
Speaker 1: This enigmatic monument allegedly lies hidden under ground near Mount McKinley,
Speaker 1: veiled by classified military operations, electromagnetic anomalies, and layers of
Speaker 1: forgotten native lore. The story first gained traction in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety two when a China Lake physicist named Douglas schlur
Speaker 1: Yep came forward with claims that a classified military broadcast
Speaker 1: reported the discovery of an enormous pyramidal pyramidy yeah, pyramid
Speaker 1: structure beneath Alaska. According to Muckschler, the fine was inadvertently
Speaker 1: revealed during a Channel thirteen Anchorage news segment referencing a
Speaker 1: seismic study tied to Chinese underground nuclear tests. These shockwaves
Speaker 1: supposedly bounced off something massive and unnaturally geometric in the
Speaker 1: Alaskan subsoil and object deeper than McKinley itself. And to
Speaker 1: tie back into that, I know so many people say
Speaker 1: that pyramids are like the best thing for vibrations and
Speaker 1: sound and all these things. Engineering wise, pyramids are absolutely
Speaker 1: dog shit at resonating sound frequency. And that's why this
Speaker 1: stood out like a sore thumb whenever you're hitting it
Speaker 1: from whatever direction, Like it bounced off in a weird way.
Speaker 1: That's like, well, that's not normal or natural, because if
Speaker 1: sound flows good through something that's a natural structure, you
Speaker 1: know that makes sense. Pyramids are not a natural structure
Speaker 1: by any means. So when the sound bounced off in
Speaker 1: a very strange way, they knew something unnatural was at
Speaker 1: this base of this mountain. So much Slur's testimony opened
Speaker 1: the door for a wave of anecdotal reports. Geologists, construction workers,
Speaker 1: and indigenous locals began sharing cryptic details about an impenetrable
Speaker 1: zone in the Alaskan wilderness. Some claimed equipment would malfunction
Speaker 1: or shut down entirely in the region. Others whispered of
Speaker 1: military installations not listed on any official maps, with convoys
Speaker 1: disappearing into the mountains. A few, yeah, a few even
Speaker 1: describe sudden deployments, missing coworkers, and electromagnetic blackout zones, common
Speaker 1: hallmarks in areas associated with buried or off world technology.
Speaker 1: Native Alaskan stories predate these modern accounts. The Dnie and
Speaker 1: Athabaskan peoples. Again to any of the natives of Alaska,
Speaker 1: if I'm mispronouncing your people. My apologies, for instance, speak
Speaker 1: of underground thunderbirds and sacred mountains that hold the bones
Speaker 1: of the sky gods. These legends often overlap with tales
Speaker 1: of subterranean dwellers, time bending energies, and forbidden places where
Speaker 1: even animals refuse to tread. Elders refer to specific zones
Speaker 1: where the ground hums and warrange travelers of great spirits
Speaker 1: beneath the ice, guardians of an ancient world sealed from mankind.
Speaker 2: Interesting it hums from the energy potentially.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe we talked about that too with the
Speaker 1: Antarctica episode the snow hums.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, but that's the thing Antarctica for wear at hums.
Speaker 1: That's just a flat sheet of ice and the winds
Speaker 1: blowing one of it causes vibrations. A mountain humming doesn't
Speaker 1: do that just from the wind. That's that's next level.
Speaker 2: I like this theoria that there is potentially a pyramid
Speaker 2: underneath and there's a alien reefs down there.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe right. Whistleblowers over the years have added
Speaker 1: eerie detail to the mystery. One alleged former Air Force
Speaker 1: technician described a deep facility inverted a deep facility with
Speaker 1: inverted pyramid chambers designed to harness geomagnetic energy, calling it
Speaker 1: a global energy node. Another under anonymity, claimed alien craft
Speaker 1: were often seen hovering near the site and that the
Speaker 1: pyramid is not man made, but seeded from the stars,
Speaker 1: possibly predating the younger, Driest Cataclysm. Black Budget scientists, according
Speaker 1: to these accounts, have studied it not for archaeology, but
Speaker 1: for its potential as an energy weapon or power source.
Speaker 1: Further leaks, investigated by Linda Moulton, who just heard Molten Howe,
Speaker 1: suggests the Alaskan Pyramid is not a tomb or temple,
Speaker 1: but an ancient power plant egolithic energy transceiver, possibly still functional.
Speaker 1: According to one of her whistleblower sources, a retired electrical
Speaker 1: engineer with Q level clearance, the structure taps into the
Speaker 1: Earth's natural harmonics and transduces telluric energy into high frequency fields,
Speaker 1: possibly for long range power distribution or communication. Just so
Speaker 1: we're clear here, whenever it says transduces, that is a
Speaker 1: technical industry term for saying it converts one form of
Speaker 1: energy to another. So, for instance, if you have a
Speaker 1: valve that's got a pneumatic piston on it, that tells
Speaker 1: them when to open and close, but it gets an
Speaker 1: electronic signal to give it the go ahead to open
Speaker 1: or close. The device that is used to take the
Speaker 1: electrical current and then transverse that or transduce that to
Speaker 1: a pneumatic signal that is called a transducer. And I
Speaker 1: used to have to install and calibrate those fuckers.
Speaker 2: So that's why do you explain that?
Speaker 1: Just clear? So taking sound energy and turning into electrical
Speaker 1: or even I'll give you a better example. Your door
Speaker 1: for anybody out there that has an electronic door lock
Speaker 1: on it. Right, So whenever you're on your phone and
Speaker 1: you hit the lock button and your door has a
Speaker 1: mechanical dead bolt that will close, you just turned a
Speaker 1: Bluetooth signal into a physical kinetic frequency that moved a
Speaker 1: dead bolt into place. That's a version of a transducer.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, well, I mean that definitely explains it a
Speaker 2: lot better than I. I was kind of trying to understand.
Speaker 2: I kind of had an idea of what it was,
Speaker 2: but I wasn't certain.
Speaker 1: So right, So she's saying that this is basically turning
Speaker 1: sound frequency from the earth happening naturally into high frequency
Speaker 1: feels and toe lluric energy for long range power distribution
Speaker 1: or possibly communication. Interesting internally, the pyramid is said to
Speaker 1: contain a hollow central shaft lined with a black crystalline
Speaker 1: alloy not found in any known database, and emits low
Speaker 1: level vibrations that affect both electronics and human consciousness. Okay.
Speaker 1: Another insider claimed the internal layout follows a modular resonant
Speaker 1: design akin to tuned chambers for wave guides, similar to
Speaker 1: theories about Great Pyramid, the Great Pyramid at Giza. Okay.
Speaker 1: The military reportedly monitors the output levels daily, with energy
Speaker 1: spikes aligning with solar and cosmic activity. Some testimonies even
Speaker 1: suggest that time behaves irregularly near the structure, with personnel
Speaker 1: reporting brief periods of missing time or disorientation while near
Speaker 1: the core. These elements support the growing belief that the
Speaker 1: Black Pyramid may not have been built by humans as
Speaker 1: we know them, but by a technologically advanced civilization long
Speaker 1: loss to history, or perhaps not from this earth at all.
Speaker 2: It just now they just now think.
Speaker 1: That, well, apparently they didn't do much research into it
Speaker 1: up until I mean when they say, like the nineties,
Speaker 1: right so recently in the Grand Scheme of shits recently.
Speaker 1: They decided right within the last like thirty ish, you know.
Speaker 1: While official information remained sealed, leak testimonies describe the surface
Speaker 1: of the Dark Pyramid as covered in etched geometric patterns
Speaker 1: and non human glyphs, not carved, but seemingly burned or
Speaker 1: fused into the blackstone itself. A former remote viewer working
Speaker 1: under a classified program reportedly described the markings as frequency
Speaker 1: based symbols that change when the pyramid's energetic field is active,
Speaker 1: some appearing to shimmer or rearrange under certain em spectrums.
Speaker 1: Another alleged military contractor claimed to have seen spiral and
Speaker 1: fractal motifs similar to those found on the megaliths in
Speaker 1: Peru Go Becleutepe Easter Island, suggesting a shared global language
Speaker 1: or builders. Linda Moulton Howe interview with an anonymous technician
Speaker 1: revealed that laser based scanning of the pyramid's outer layer
Speaker 1: returned unreadable feedback, as though the surface absorbed and distorted
Speaker 1: all electromagnetic input. Native lore may support this. Some tribal
Speaker 1: elders reference an ancient black mountain that sings and speaks
Speaker 1: in ruins of light.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's actually really cool the ruins of light, like, uh.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine like hearing stories of your great great
Speaker 1: grandfather who told the stories of the Black Mountain that sings,
Speaker 1: and then finding this later on be like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: what was great great grandpop talking about here?
Speaker 2: Bro something fucking epic. Maybe it's crazy.
Speaker 1: So whether these markings are linguistic, functional, or something entirely
Speaker 1: different remains unknown, but their existence, if verified, would suggest
Speaker 1: the pyramid was not just built to store power, but
Speaker 1: to communicate with something beyond Wow. So, despite repeated denials
Speaker 1: from the US government and no publicly released coordinates, satellite
Speaker 1: image analysis have pointed out anomalies in the region, unnatural
Speaker 1: square shadows and terrain data, circular exclusion zones, and unusual
Speaker 1: magnetic interference. This is only fueled deeper belief that the
Speaker 1: Alaska's or that Alaska's Pyramid, is part of a global
Speaker 1: network of ancient energy nodes, linked not just to Egypt
Speaker 1: or China, but perhaps to last civilizations like Atlantis or
Speaker 1: Mu or mew I should say, in the ever silent
Speaker 1: snowfields of the North. The Black Pyramid remains hidden, but
Speaker 1: the convergence of seismic records, indigenous wisdom military secrecy and
Speaker 1: extraterrestrial accounts suggest something extraordinary lies buried beneath the Alaskan permafrost,
Speaker 1: something the world was never meant to find.
Speaker 2: Well, I thought this is a pretty cool article. That's
Speaker 2: why I was like, I think this is pretty neat.
Speaker 1: So and again, none of these are verified. These are
Speaker 1: all third person. These are all eyewitnesses or eyewitnesses of
Speaker 1: you know, claiming to be somebody. But that's the thing,
Speaker 1: they can't exactly speak on it. If this is something real,
Speaker 1: if this is really happening under mounta Denali, then yeah,
Speaker 1: it makes sense that they'd be sworn to secrecy. And
Speaker 1: then you also look at like what might be powering
Speaker 1: harp to Yeah, to excite some some energy in the
Speaker 1: eye on a sphere. Sure, some electricity. We could do
Speaker 1: that to manufacture a blizzard. I feel like you might
Speaker 1: need something with a little more ass in weight behind it.
Speaker 2: I agree, just me.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: So this is another interesting theory though, that that could
Speaker 2: be potentially the reason behind or one in conjunction with
Speaker 2: multiple of what's going on. So could be I thought
Speaker 2: this was a I heard this, and I'm like, no
Speaker 2: way that this actually happened So the article is A
Speaker 2: seven forty seven engine falls from the sky onto anchoraged neighborhood.
Speaker 2: It's published. The original publication was April first, nineteen tenety
Speaker 2: three when it happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as we're talking about all these things, of course,
Speaker 1: it's like, here's another strange there's strange things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many strange stories. I just thought this
Speaker 2: was interesting. So I just wanted to snag this article
Speaker 2: really quick.
Speaker 1: Oh you want me read it? Yes, all right. So
Speaker 1: a jet engine and a piece of wing ripped from
Speaker 1: an a aging Boeing seven forty seven as it flew
Speaker 1: over Anchorage Wednesday, showering tons of metal over an east
Speaker 1: side neighborhood, but injuring no one. The engine narrowly missed
Speaker 1: apartment buildings and a shopping mall, but a smaller piece
Speaker 1: of debris or pieces of debris were strewn throughout the
Speaker 1: Boniface Parkway area. One woman discovered a hole in her
Speaker 1: roof and a chunk of aluminum on her bedroom floor. Yo.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine the fucking insurance claim if that would
Speaker 1: have hit her?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, with all that weight falling down here,
Speaker 1: how not one person got hurt? Is beyond me, said
Speaker 1: Captain George Novaki. Mm hmm, that's insane. Hundreds of people
Speaker 1: were witnesses to this spectacle and jammed emergency telephone lines
Speaker 1: to report the near disaster. The cargo jet, owned by
Speaker 1: Evergreen International Airlines, dumped its fuel over cook Inlet before
Speaker 1: returning safely to Anchorage International Airport thirteen minutes after takeoff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't get very far for they realized something was.
Speaker 2: Horribly long here thirteen home.
Speaker 1: A wind sheer warning was in effect at the time,
Speaker 1: and the Federal Aviation Administration said other pilots reported severe
Speaker 1: turbulence in the area. Andrea Saunders had just picked up
Speaker 1: her daughter, ten year old Brian at Baxter Elementary School,
Speaker 1: about a quarter mile from where the engine fell. She
Speaker 1: joined other spectators, including dozens of young school children. Wow,
Speaker 1: she said, Thank goodness, it did not hit the school.
Speaker 1: The crumbled engine rested in a snow burm less than
Speaker 1: thirty feet from an apartment building, just behind the bottom
Speaker 1: of a small at Northern Lights Boulevard. They named their
Speaker 1: damn streets after these Northern Lights that are manufactured.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, we have a lot of weird
Speaker 2: ass names down here. For streets. So yeah, I was
Speaker 2: gonna say, we have some weird names, and so a
Speaker 2: lot of people name a lot of things strange. They
Speaker 2: have like us Street and they name it weird shit.
Speaker 2: So you can't judge them for that. But the fact
Speaker 2: that the engine landed thirty feet from an apartment complex,
Speaker 2: which could have really been devastating. How depending on how
Speaker 2: it hit and going through the building itself, it could
Speaker 2: have hurt and killed a lot of people. It's interesting
Speaker 2: that it didn't hit a single person though.
Speaker 1: I mean, the engine off of seven forty seven is.
Speaker 2: Not small, no, and the the sac scond.
Speaker 1: Plane that hit the twin towers allegedly, and so you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, it's a large one. So I'm surprised that
Speaker 2: it didn't actually hurt anybody. And it just kind of
Speaker 2: adds some more mystery into this. How it just fluke
Speaker 2: didn't hit a single person?
Speaker 1: Wow? So the jet was built in nineteen seventy and
Speaker 1: this fell apart in ninety one, was it? So this
Speaker 1: thing was in service for twenty one years and finally
Speaker 1: it was like hey, bro, it finally went downhill here. Wow.
Speaker 1: The final decision on whether to fly through those winds
Speaker 1: is left up to the pilots. Just minutes before the
Speaker 1: Evergreen plane took off, another unidentified bow in seven forty
Speaker 1: seven cleared the runway. So they already had one plane
Speaker 1: that had gone up and had no issues. This plane
Speaker 1: obviously was not so lucky. Let's see, he said. The
Speaker 1: plane was rocked back and forth by what appeared to
Speaker 1: be violent wind shear, and the pilot finally gained control
Speaker 1: of the aircraft. A short while later. The Evergreen jet
Speaker 1: hit the turbulence four miles east of the runway and
Speaker 1: eighteen hundred feet above the ground, and one of the
Speaker 1: planes' four engines and part of the left wing dropped off.
Speaker 1: There was a big flash. Kelly said. The pilot did
Speaker 1: some pretty wild maneuvering before he got her stabilized. The
Speaker 1: Evergreen flight crew reported moderate turbulence shortly after takeoff. According
Speaker 1: to Storm, they ran into severe turbulence as they began
Speaker 1: to turn. That was began the turn that was to
Speaker 1: have taken them over Nick arm Kinnick Arm, I don't know.
Speaker 1: The crew then reported a yawl or abrupt wobbling, and
Speaker 1: believed the engines separated at that point. After the engine dropped,
Speaker 1: the pilot declared an emergency, circled over the inlet and
Speaker 1: landed at the airport at twelve forty five. It was
Speaker 1: met by six fire engines. Five people were on board
Speaker 1: the aircraft, according to Evergreen that's the company. They walked
Speaker 1: down the stairs and reached the tarmac. A woman from
Speaker 1: the plane hugged the ground worker, an airport safety officer
Speaker 1: who saw the landing. Okay, got you, got you. So
Speaker 1: it's very interesting that this would also happen around Slam
Speaker 1: area in question.
Speaker 2: Just these crazy o they're Boeing seven forty sevens crashed
Speaker 2: after losing engines in the past fifteen months. Whoa mm hm,
Speaker 2: whoa Okay, So you remember the whole thing about the
Speaker 2: seven forty the Boeings that if it's going to be
Speaker 2: a plane that goes down or there's going to be
Speaker 2: some chicanery, it's going to be a Boeing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's just.
Speaker 2: Interesting that more than one happened. It said than never
Speaker 2: the last October. China Air seven forty seven losses third
Speaker 2: engine in December ninety one, so they had multiple in
Speaker 2: ninety one.
Speaker 1: And the other world engines. An el Al plane lost
Speaker 1: at number three engine and crashed into a building in
Speaker 1: the Netherlands in October of that year. Ay one wow
Speaker 1: or ninety I should say wow. In both cases, the
Speaker 1: engine broke off at a fuse pin that connected it
Speaker 1: to the wing. Pins are designed to break off and
Speaker 1: let the engine fall without damaging the wing, and Wednesday's accident,
Speaker 1: the fuse pin was found with the demolished engine. It
Speaker 1: appears that the circumstances are somewhat different than those two
Speaker 1: previous accidents. She said, Wow, sure, that's insane. Wow, this
Speaker 1: is actually a pretty long article.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a pretty long long one that goes all
Speaker 2: the way in detail of what happened. So do we
Speaker 2: want to read the whole thing or no? No, it's okay. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So this is just another incident that just seemed really
Speaker 2: strange and how it involved more falling out of the
Speaker 2: sky and different things that was happening. So as we
Speaker 2: wrap up this episode, I thought it would be fun
Speaker 2: to touch.
Speaker 1: On the killer Bigfoot, possibly the reason where these pilots
Speaker 1: and all the things are going, because I mean, do
Speaker 1: we know how high Bigfoot can jump? Do we like
Speaker 1: know this?
Speaker 2: I have no idea, But this is port Lock, Alaska
Speaker 2: that is rumored to be home to sasquatchlight beasts known
Speaker 2: as a natape.
Speaker 1: Nanton nack nanty knack. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I don't know that. Okay, that scared off of the
Speaker 2: town inhabitants in the early twentieth century. So this is
Speaker 2: kind of just a fun little story to wrap up
Speaker 2: this entire thing of the Alaskan Triangle, because we actually
Speaker 2: got I got I guess from tinfoil. He gave me
Speaker 2: the inspiration. I couldn't think of the word. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: it's like two am, and I just couldn't think of
Speaker 2: the dang word inspiration for this because of the Bigfoot conversation,
Speaker 2: the dog Man and things like that, and so here
Speaker 2: we are.
Speaker 1: So maybe it's not aliens that are causing this. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's the air dimensional Sam Squench, it's.
Speaker 2: The Sam squenches. Maybe maybe they're there, Maybe they're there.
Speaker 2: I'm still kind of teetering with the idea that maybe
Speaker 2: they're the aliens, like an alien group, and that's what
Speaker 2: they're out here, just fucking around, playing with people.
Speaker 1: I've definitely heard it proposed before, that is for sure.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into it. Here on the southern
Speaker 1: coast of Alaska, a mining tunnel, rubble and rusted cannery
Speaker 1: equipment are all that remains of the village of Port Lock.
Speaker 1: The residents of this shipping and canning port abandoned port
Speaker 1: Lock around around nineteen fifty in favor of towns built
Speaker 1: closer to the new Alaska Route one state Highway. Port Lock,
Speaker 1: nestled in the southern edge of the canai I hope
Speaker 1: i pronounced that right peninsula along Port Chatham Bay, was
Speaker 1: no longer practical as a place to call home. At
Speaker 1: least that's the official story. Urban legends, on the other hand,
Speaker 1: claiming the residents fled on mass from Port Lock because
Speaker 1: of a huge, hairy, half man half beast who started
Speaker 1: stalking and attacking residents in the town. The beast, reminiscent
Speaker 1: of Bigfoot or Sasquatch, was known to the locals as
Speaker 1: nanty knack or nantai nack. I don't know, Oh, there
Speaker 1: it is non t nac.
Speaker 2: Nanty nuck nook. Yeah, nan t nuck, non t enock.
Speaker 1: Okay sure. The term nanty knock came from the Alaskan
Speaker 1: Native dena Aina word nontina okay. Sure. This literally translates
Speaker 1: as those who steal people. Oh, so a demon a demon?
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a demon.
Speaker 1: The nanty knock nanty nac shit hill I pronounce a
Speaker 1: right non t knuck. Yeah. The nanty Knock was rumored
Speaker 1: to be responsible for dozens of mysterious deaths and disappearances
Speaker 1: of town inhabitants from the early nineteen hundreds until the
Speaker 1: town was abandoned in the nineteen fifties.
Speaker 2: Ooh, so this is an earlier these are the stories
Speaker 2: from earlier?
Speaker 1: Could be the reason? Maybe, I mean, this wouldn't account
Speaker 1: for the planes going down.
Speaker 2: But the story began in seventeen eighty six.
Speaker 1: What the fuck? Okay? The official history of Portlock in Alaska.
Speaker 1: Portlock story began around seventeen eighty six when Captain Nathaniel
Speaker 1: port Lock of the British Royal Navy passed through and
Speaker 1: praised the area. The town took his name. However, it
Speaker 1: didn't start to grow until the dawn of the twentieth century,
Speaker 1: when a canery or cannery for salmon was built. Okay,
Speaker 1: the village was small, with just a handful of residents,
Speaker 1: made up of fishermen, lumbermen, miners, and cannery workers, largely
Speaker 1: of Russian and Alaskan Native descent. Yeah, you'll have that.
Speaker 1: By nineteen twenty one, port Lock had grown enough to
Speaker 1: open a post office, but within thirty years the town
Speaker 1: was abandoned as its residents moved to nearby places like
Speaker 1: now Wallach and Seldovia. In nineteen fifty, its final death
Speaker 1: knell rang with the shuddering of its post office. Port
Speaker 1: Lock became a ghost town. Officially, people left because it
Speaker 1: was out of the way of the new Highway. Unofficially
Speaker 1: they fled a monster who had terrorized them for decades.
Speaker 1: WHOA Okay, So this is a artist's rendition of what
Speaker 1: the nontanok would look like, which looks very Bigfoot to me.
Speaker 2: It does look very Bigfoot, honestly, okay.
Speaker 1: Shortly after port Lock, Alaska, was established, around nineteen hundred,
Speaker 1: creepy stories about the town began to spread. In nineteen
Speaker 1: oh five, all of the Native American workers at the
Speaker 1: cannery left the town because of something in the woods,
Speaker 1: though they returned. The next year and the next several
Speaker 1: decades saw a number of unsettling incidents in and around
Speaker 1: port Lock. In the nineteen twenties, Anchorage Press, which is
Speaker 1: the local publication, reports that rumors began to spread of
Speaker 1: a creature hanging around a nearby mine, as well as
Speaker 1: sightings of trees which apparently had been ripped out of
Speaker 1: the ground by their roots. In nineteen thirty one, a
Speaker 1: logger named Andrew Kamlock Yeah died a mysterious death. Kamluk
Speaker 1: was purportedly struck over the head with a huge piece
Speaker 1: of logging equipment, something far too heavy for a human pickup,
Speaker 1: and though there was blood on a nearby crane, kam
Speaker 1: Luck was found ten feet away from him. Okay, I
Speaker 1: mean cranes do move and swing, so I don't I
Speaker 1: would have to look at the situation itself to see
Speaker 1: what they're talking about here, But like all right.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's also reports of hunters who'd come across eighteen inch
Speaker 1: footprints while tracking a moose. They reported that they found
Speaker 1: signs of a struggle where the grass had been matted down,
Speaker 1: then only the deep track of manlike animal departing towards
Speaker 1: the high fog shrouded mountains. It was as if something
Speaker 1: had killed the moose and then dragged it off. Cool.
Speaker 1: Mooses are not small?
Speaker 2: Is the bigfoot?
Speaker 1: I mean? Very possibly the nonsadok yep and it was
Speaker 1: only It wasn't only moose that seemed to inexplicably disappear.
Speaker 1: Alaska Magazine reports that a school teacher who taught in
Speaker 1: the area in the nineteen forties recalled it. A number
Speaker 1: of cannery workers vanished while hunting sheep and bear eerily.
Speaker 1: One of their bodies was later purportedly found mutilated and
Speaker 1: dismember in a local lagoon. Over the decades, stories like
Speaker 1: these allegedly terrified the residents of Portlock. One by one,
Speaker 1: they began to flee the town for safer pastures. This
Speaker 1: is a direct quote here. We left our houses in
Speaker 1: schools and started all new here in now Wallach. Milania
Speaker 1: kel Yeah, who was born in Port Lock in nineteen
Speaker 1: thirty four, told the Homer Tribune. Over a long period
Speaker 1: of time, she explained something had terrorized the town's residence
Speaker 1: to the point that they fled. So are these stories
Speaker 1: about the non to knock true? Okay, let's get to
Speaker 1: the debunking of it all right. Stories like these abound
Speaker 1: in articles and websites about Portlock, Alaska, but locals of
Speaker 1: the area often dispute their accuracy. Milania kind of made
Speaker 1: up a story because she was getting tired of people
Speaker 1: asking if this story is true. Sally Ash, her cousin
Speaker 1: who served as her translator for the Homer Tribune article,
Speaker 1: told the Anchorage Press she made up this story about
Speaker 1: how Bigfoot was killing people. It wasn't true. Everybody knows that,
Speaker 1: but it was not our place to say nothing. How
Speaker 1: is that not your place? That's your cousin, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: you should be able to tell people she's crazy, okay.
Speaker 1: Ash grew up in Nana Wallach and her mother was
Speaker 1: born near Port Lock. Portlock, she said, was a creepy place,
Speaker 1: and despite her claim that her cousin made up the stories,
Speaker 1: Ash seemed to believe that the Nansonock exists. Okay, So
Speaker 1: even though she's saying, yeah, my cousin's full of shit, yo,
Speaker 1: but that things really out there.
Speaker 2: Though, I mean, I think it exists at this point.
Speaker 2: Why not they tell her up there, to be honest
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 1: Why not they tell us, don't go out on a
Speaker 1: foggy day. That's when he's walking around. You could run
Speaker 1: into him and you never know what he might do.
Speaker 1: She said the same this wow. However, Ash claimed that
Speaker 1: the Nanta Knock was not dangerous and that the locals
Speaker 1: had a sort of respect for him. I think he
Speaker 1: is part human. Ash said. He lived with people and
Speaker 1: then didn't want to be around them anymore, so we
Speaker 1: moved to the forest away from everybody. He started growing
Speaker 1: hair and looked like a bigfoot. Scary. My uncles, my
Speaker 1: grandfather's they all talked about him. He's old, he's tall,
Speaker 1: he's strong, he's hairy. It lives in the woods and
Speaker 1: you can tell when he's getting near. You can smell him.
Speaker 1: My mom used to talk about him a lot. That's
Speaker 1: something we always hear with the Bigfoot in Sam Smith Smell.
Speaker 1: So they're saying that he used to look human and
Speaker 1: then just went to the woods and just let his
Speaker 1: hair grow out.
Speaker 2: Yes, I guess he's just really really tall and he's
Speaker 2: just hairy, smelly dude.
Speaker 1: She added, respect him, keep distance, he moved around. He
Speaker 1: was quick, okay. Sure. Thus, despite Portlock's status as a
Speaker 1: ghost town in the home of the Alaskan Killer Bigfoot,
Speaker 1: as seen in the new Discovery Plus show, it's more
Speaker 1: likely that this small village simply couldn't stand the test
Speaker 1: of time not to knock. If it exists, probably keeps
Speaker 1: to itself like its legendary cousin the Bigfoot. All right, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's pretty much the end of the article.
Speaker 2: So I thought it was an interesting thing that you
Speaker 2: might have a killer Bigfoot in the midst. I mean,
Speaker 2: of all the other things that's happening.
Speaker 1: I mean, who's to say one way or another? Right,
Speaker 1: who knows? We're talking about the aliens, like, they're clearly
Speaker 1: what's making these planes go down. They're the reason why
Speaker 1: we couldn't find the nuke that dropped the first broken
Speaker 1: arrow in recorded history. This crazy manhunt that was going
Speaker 1: on for these political figures, very very strategic and key
Speaker 1: political figures at the time. Yes, got abandoned because of
Speaker 1: a nuke that according to some wasn't a nuke but
Speaker 1: was kind of a nuke. But whatever was lost and
Speaker 1: they've never recovered the bodies. We have thousands of people
Speaker 1: every year that go missing in Alaska. Still to this day,
Speaker 1: planes go down inexplicably in this triangle, and we potentially
Speaker 1: have a giant black pyramid underneath a mountain that may
Speaker 1: or may not be emitting let's just call it energy
Speaker 1: because that could go in different Yeah, pulses could be sound,
Speaker 1: could be electromagnetic. I don't near, but it's it's putting
Speaker 1: off energy in some way, shape or form and possibly
Speaker 1: could be causing all the chicanery to go down in
Speaker 1: this triangle.
Speaker 2: And you also have the energy vortexes potentially and the
Speaker 2: UFO maybe bases off the coasts, which there is more
Speaker 2: information about that. Unfortunately I did not bring the rest
Speaker 2: of the receipts tonight for that, but there is more.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of different things that are happening.
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