WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:03.839 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on 2 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:05.639 Fox Sports fourteen. 3 00:00:05.320 --> 00:00:07.440 Fifty powered by Nova. 4 00:00:07.200 --> 00:00:11.000 Insurance Services Ensure your most Prized possessionets. 5 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:15.240 Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Iye on the Ball 6 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:18.559 here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. I'm 7 00:00:18.719 --> 00:00:21.839 with me today is Dave Cosgrove. You know, the Pima 8 00:00:22.239 --> 00:00:25.719 men's soccer coach, the successful Pima men's soccer coach. And 9 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:28.839 we have one behind the other mic We're in control, 10 00:00:28.920 --> 00:00:32.159 so we should be great today. Thanks everybody, Thank you 11 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:32.960 Dave for being here. 12 00:00:33.679 --> 00:00:35.159 Great to be here. Thanks for inviting me. 13 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:35.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 14 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:38.159 We have guests like you know, a little sports and 15 00:00:38.200 --> 00:00:40.000 we're gonna talk about a lot about what you've done 16 00:00:40.039 --> 00:00:44.200 over the years at Pima TSA, now FC Tucson, things 17 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:44.479 like that. 18 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:45.920 Are you a Native. I don't even know if you're 19 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:46.240 a native. 20 00:00:46.520 --> 00:00:47.840 I consider myself a native. 21 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:50.359 I moved to Tucson when I was six weeks old 22 00:00:50.359 --> 00:00:52.799 on my dad got a job at the UVA for 23 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:53.479 forty years. 24 00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:57.479 Okay, okay, six yeah, I guess you're you're okay, I'm 25 00:00:57.479 --> 00:00:59.159 a native now I'm thirty seven years and one is 26 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:02.640 a native. We will never leave this town. Yeah, I 27 00:01:02.719 --> 00:01:04.519 love you so though you should. It's a great place. 28 00:01:04.560 --> 00:01:07.359 That's why I never left Lace. Yes, yes, Dave. Are 29 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:10.319 you coming off the heels of another fantastic run at 30 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:11.480 a national championship? 31 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:12.439 Where did you end up? 32 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:16.239 We lost in the national semi finals on penalty kicks 33 00:01:16.239 --> 00:01:17.519 to the Ventral National. 34 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:19.159 Champions Yeah, I saw, I saw it was it two 35 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:19.560 to two. 36 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:21.519 Or something like that, two to two in regulation and 37 00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:22.719 then into pks. 38 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:23.560 You had to come back. 39 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:24.560 No, we were ahead. 40 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:27.040 Oh you're ahead. That makes it even more difficult. 41 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:27.680 Yeah. 42 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:29.079 I don't want to make you cry. I don't want 43 00:01:29.120 --> 00:01:29.840 to make you throw anything. 44 00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:33.439 So yeah, no, you know, I've been doing it a 45 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:36.840 long time and this is one of more difficult losses. 46 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:39.879 And even technically it's not a loss, my record takes 47 00:01:39.879 --> 00:01:42.560 it as a Yeah, I guess that's how they do 48 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:45.680 the pks. So we ended up twenty one and one 49 00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:49.280 for the r H and you know, in the national finals, 50 00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:52.000 the team that beat us had a much easier time, 51 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:55.200 So we feel like we missed an opportunity. We were 52 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:58.640 about one play away, one shot away from potentially a 53 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:01.840 third national championship. So you were up to oh, we 54 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:04.400 were up to Oho in the first half, had some 55 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:06.799 really good chances to go up three zero, which we 56 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:09.000 felt like would be the magic number because this team 57 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:11.560 has scored two goals in every game all year long. 58 00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:14.439 So we were looking at that number, that that third goal, 59 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:16.759 and felt like we created enough chances to get it, 60 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:19.159 and and and we didn't quite get there. And then 61 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:21.240 of course they came back. We knew they were going 62 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:23.199 to score a goal or you know, maybe two, so 63 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:27.840 you know, we were really holding for yeah, and anticipating, 64 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:29.800 and we get you know, I will say the kids 65 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:32.439 executed everything perfectly. I think we got a lot of 66 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:34.840 things right and it just came down to one play 67 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:35.599 or one kick. 68 00:02:35.719 --> 00:02:37.400 So what do you tell what do you tell the 69 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:40.039 kids after after that? I mean, you you have them, 70 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:42.360 you've had them a years, the only lost one game 71 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:44.360 or one match, and what do you tell them? 72 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:47.120 Yeah, well, this was a difficult one because you know, 73 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:50.840 we returned nine of our eleven starters, so. 74 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:54.360 It was you returned or we did. 75 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:56.680 So it was a group we've had together for two years, 76 00:02:56.680 --> 00:02:58.840 and you know, I've been there there a long time 77 00:02:58.879 --> 00:03:01.280 and this is one of those groups that I'll remember. 78 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:01.719 For the rest of my life. 79 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:04.280 They were fantastic from the first day they stepped on 80 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:06.680 campus to you know, even as we finish up this 81 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:08.960 season this year and then even into the spring, some 82 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:10.960 of them will still be with us, but a lot 83 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:11.599 of moving on. 84 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:14.520 It was just a really unique, special group. 85 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:17.639 And you know, we had set real high expectations and 86 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:19.960 you know, if you look at our record, we really 87 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:23.680 did do well. But you know, I think I think 88 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:25.400 the thing that I tried to get across to them 89 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:29.159 was one is I think we prepared really well. So 90 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:31.599 you know, you get to those situations sometimes where you 91 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:33.680 have regrets, Well it was a referee faulter, or we 92 00:03:33.719 --> 00:03:37.599 didn't do something well, we didn't play well, whatever it 93 00:03:37.680 --> 00:03:40.199 might be. I think we prepared well. I thought the 94 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:44.319 kids really bought in for the entire year. I don't 95 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:46.400 have any regrets about the way we did things. A 96 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:49.039 year ago when we lost in Tucson. You know, I 97 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:51.439 got caught by surprise by another team in the way 98 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:53.759 they played us, and I felt I let the kids 99 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:56.719 down in twenty twenty three, and you know, I was 100 00:03:56.759 --> 00:03:58.280 on a mission not to let that happen again. I 101 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:02.439 should not have been unprepared. So the kids really bought 102 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:05.000 into that. We changed a couple of things that we did. 103 00:04:05.319 --> 00:04:08.520 We felt like we were prepared for every opponent, and 104 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:09.960 at the end of the day, it's just one kicked 105 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:10.719 in and go our way. 106 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:12.360 And you know, it's a little bit for me. 107 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:14.120 I think it may be even more difficult than those 108 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:16.560 guys because their careers are just starting. But you know, 109 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:19.199 I can see the end of my career coming sooner 110 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:21.360 or later, and I don't know if I hope I 111 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:23.399 have another chance. But you know, to have such a 112 00:04:23.439 --> 00:04:25.639 good group of guys and be so close, it's really 113 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:28.879 been hard on me. And I guess the message I 114 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:31.680 just told to them is I hope that this is 115 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:33.560 the most difficult day they ever have to go through. 116 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:36.199 Is that day losing that If their life that is 117 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:39.120 the most difficult day, then they've lived a really good life. 118 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:41.360 Sure of course, of course, and you've had some great success. 119 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:45.759 But before we go there in your tournament history, it 120 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:49.759 probably makes it more enjoyable or more memorable in the 121 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:53.920 two titles that you have because you realize, I'm sure 122 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:56.279 you've realized for a long time how difficult it is 123 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:57.000 to win one. 124 00:04:57.720 --> 00:04:59.759 Yeah, I bet you get a lot of coaches on 125 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:01.879 here whether it be when in a high school, stay 126 00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:05.319 titled in Arizona, or you know, pursuing national championships at 127 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:07.839 different levels, whether that be club or junior college or 128 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:10.079 you know, even at the University of Arizona. 129 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:11.680 It doesn't happen that often. 130 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:13.360 And you know, a friend of mine, you know, and 131 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:15.519 maybe you've had them on here lately, you know, Bat Nugent, 132 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:17.920 just one is you know, and you know, I was 133 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:20.279 texting him after the game, and you know, just tell 134 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:22.959 him that it doesn't come around that often. You need 135 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:24.720 to make sure you enjoy it. You need to make 136 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:27.279 sure you remember it. You know, keep the pictures, you know, 137 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:28.079 keep the quotes. 138 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:28.920 Uh. 139 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:31.199 You know, I when I won my first national championship, 140 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:33.560 I got a ton of emails and I've kept those 141 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:35.519 and every time, you know, I get a little bit, 142 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:37.480 you know, where am I going to go with my career? 143 00:05:37.600 --> 00:05:38.519 Is it time to retire? 144 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:39.480 Is it time to move on? 145 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:42.079 Go back and read those emails, and it really kind 146 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:45.759 of re energizes me because the reality is is only 147 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:48.399 one person wins every year, and there's a lot of 148 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:51.319 really good coaches and good players across the country. And 149 00:05:51.360 --> 00:05:54.959 we were really close this year, and you know, you know, 150 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:57.639 it's just it's it's it's just you know, it's difficult. 151 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:00.959 But but you when you do win it, you know, 152 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:02.319 that would be my I guess my one piece of 153 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:04.319 advice is make sure you celebrate it because you don't 154 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:05.439 know if it's gonna happen again. 155 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:07.519 Well, it reminds me of the conversation I always had 156 00:06:07.560 --> 00:06:10.199 with with Josh Passner. Right, he's a freshman coming here 157 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:13.120 at u A ninety six, ninety seven, they do okay 158 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:15.399 or in the season, and then they win the title, 159 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:18.399 and he's telling his dad, dad, we just want and 160 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:20.480 look how easy is it's going to be? The rest 161 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:22.720 and in Arizona has never even come you know, maybe 162 00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:24.560 two thousand and one to come close. But you know 163 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:26.800 what I'm saying, you think that, but it doesn't work 164 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:27.160 that way. 165 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:27.959 Yeah. 166 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:30.000 I think kids, you know, because they're young, they think 167 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:32.199 it's always going to be that easy. It's always going 168 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:34.879 to happen that way, and you know, usually takes a 169 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:38.079 lot of circumstances to get there, whether it's the right players, 170 00:06:38.079 --> 00:06:40.839 the right coach, right, I guarantee you everybody will talk 171 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:43.720 about somewhere along the line they face some adversity and 172 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:46.240 things went their way. Yeah, you know, and you know 173 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:48.079 there was always something that kind of you. 174 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:50.160 Know, sparked the run, sparked it. 175 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:53.000 And you know those don't happen all the time, you know, 176 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:57.040 and you know it is you know, as I as I, 177 00:06:57.160 --> 00:07:00.639 you know, get further and further into my career, you know, 178 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:03.800 those two years will always be something I remember you. 179 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:05.680 So tell me, well, you got to be lucky, you 180 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:07.199 got to be good, gotta be healthy, all that, all 181 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:09.079 that stuff that we talk about all the time. So 182 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:12.959 in your last ten years, Uh, do you have the 183 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:13.879 record in the last ten years? 184 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:16.160 I know, do you know the success? Now? 185 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:18.759 I don't know my overall win and loss record. You know, 186 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:21.879 I've believed that for the sports information director or my parents. 187 00:07:22.079 --> 00:07:23.439 He and my dad tracks that stuff. 188 00:07:23.480 --> 00:07:26.480 But you know, the thing that we've gotten to now 189 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:29.120 at PIMA is well, what does the postseason look like 190 00:07:29.199 --> 00:07:32.120 for you? And in the last since twenty fourteen, we've 191 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:36.040 been in ten of the last eleven national championship tournaments, 192 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:38.759 which means you're into the last eight or last twelve 193 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:43.040 best teams in the country. And even there, we've made 194 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:45.959 the national quarterfinals or better every year we've been there. 195 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:49.160 Yeah, pretty good stuff, pretty good stuff. And I guess 196 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:51.759 say you probably savor the last the two titles because 197 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:52.720 they don't come very often. 198 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:55.399 Are you different? Can I ask your age? 199 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:57.600 You're fifty fifty seven, fifty. 200 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:01.360 Seven, I knew you when maybe you were a five ish? 201 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:05.279 Maybe are you different coaching now if I asked you 202 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:07.839 this question now than you were when you were thirty. 203 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:11.800 Five, Absolutely and hopefully better. Definitely different. 204 00:08:12.040 --> 00:08:17.360 Wisdom wise, yeah, you know, I think philosophy wise, yeah. 205 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:19.920 I think you know, you know, trying to you know, 206 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:23.000 learn more about the game, you know. Uh, It's been 207 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:25.480 something I've done over the last twenty years. But you know, 208 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:27.759 when I started and I was working with your son, 209 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:31.040 you know, it was a lot about intensity, about accountability 210 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:33.440 and demands, and I don't know there was that much 211 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:36.120 about the tactical part of it, the mental part of it, 212 00:08:36.200 --> 00:08:38.879 you know. And that was a good group and they 213 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:40.639 probably could have been challenged a little bit better that 214 00:08:40.679 --> 00:08:43.519 way from me, you know. And and and you know, 215 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:47.159 I think I've learned to manage players better and to 216 00:08:47.480 --> 00:08:50.840 pick battles better, do you uh? 217 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:51.279 Yeah? 218 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:54.200 Which which, of course you have how many on the roster? Eighteenish? 219 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:55.559 Whatever? Uh? 220 00:08:55.600 --> 00:08:59.519 Do you coach them, each individual different or all the same, 221 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:00.720 you know. 222 00:09:00.799 --> 00:09:03.519 I think I try to look at each player individually. 223 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:05.759 I think in any team, there's gonna be kids you 224 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:07.799 can call out publicly and they're okay with ye, right right, 225 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:11.120 kids that need to have you put your arm around them. 226 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:11.399 You know. 227 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:14.159 I think there's general rules for everybody in terms of 228 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:18.399 accountability and discipline and character. But I think, you know, 229 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:21.679 you look at the player more than just you know, 230 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:25.039 you put them all into one one hole, you know. 231 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:27.960 I think each each player has different it's a different bag, 232 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:30.440 and sometimes you just need to treat them differently. And 233 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:33.600 I think I've matured in that area, knowing when to 234 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:36.440 treat a kid differently, when to you know, again, hold 235 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:38.919 them accountable, or when to put my arm around them. 236 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:42.360 And I think that's just something that comes with maturity 237 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:42.919 and experience. 238 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:43.240 Right. 239 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:45.960 No, No, the biggest philosophy that I've heard is, you know, 240 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:47.480 you got to know when to put your arm around 241 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:49.879 him and no one to kick him in the buttally, 242 00:09:49.879 --> 00:09:54.200 not literally, but figuratively, you know, because every individual is different, 243 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:56.919 right yeah, No, No, of course, before we move on, 244 00:09:57.159 --> 00:09:59.159 we're going to talk about our guests real quick, We're 245 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:01.559 gonna have Jake Fisher on at three seventeen, our usual 246 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:03.759 Friday guests, but I wanted to have him on because 247 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:06.480 rich Rod took that job yesterday with West Virginia. He 248 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:09.600 paid for rich Rod. He thinks the world of rich Rod, 249 00:10:09.919 --> 00:10:13.120 just what you know, what he sees in him. Going back, 250 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:16.080 I'll kind of tell my stories with rich Rod during 251 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:18.600 that time, and then we're gonna have a kind of 252 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:21.360 a workout guy, like a a fitness guy I met 253 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:23.679 a couple of days ago, and wasn't really about fitness. 254 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:25.679 It was about philosophy of what you and I were 255 00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:29.879 talking about Dave, where they he gets him to peak 256 00:10:29.919 --> 00:10:34.000 performance in terms of not really not really physically, but mentally. 257 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:36.559 And I'm sure you you deal with that where you 258 00:10:36.639 --> 00:10:39.240 have to be tough mentally as well as physically mentally 259 00:10:39.279 --> 00:10:40.679 to survive and to succeed. 260 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:42.600 Yeah, I think you know. 261 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:45.600 That is an area I think in athletics across the 262 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:48.440 board that is being developed more and more and more 263 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:50.480 time and more money and more efforts to be put 264 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:53.360 into the mental side of the training. And to be honest, 265 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:55.679 I look forward to him because that's something I don't think. 266 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:57.840 I'm very knowledgeable in you know, I've. 267 00:10:57.759 --> 00:11:00.200 Just kind of done it through what I've seen on 268 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:02.879 seeing what's been successful, and then of course you know, 269 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:05.720 just through experience. But you know, no formal training in 270 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:06.679 that at all. 271 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:07.440 Especially nowadays. 272 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:09.320 Well I'm sure back in our days too, what we 273 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:11.320 really didn't notice it because kids are going through a 274 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:16.360 lot of stuff up school of life, athletics. 275 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:17.759 They have a lot of their plate. 276 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:20.799 We all did, right, It's just different now because it's 277 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:24.639 out there where the pressures to succeed from either the 278 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:27.480 parents or themselves, it becomes really magnified. 279 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:31.039 Yeah, I think that in this day and age, with 280 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:34.399 the social media and players having their own brand, there 281 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:37.600 is a constant pressure on these kids to develop their brand, 282 00:11:38.039 --> 00:11:41.120 you know, and sometimes that gets lost within the team concept. 283 00:11:41.559 --> 00:11:44.000 So I feel in some ways I feel bad for 284 00:11:44.039 --> 00:11:45.600 these kids now. Yeah, I think there's a lot of 285 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:47.519 great things going on in athletics these days, you know, 286 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:50.279 in terms of again this guy who does the mental training, 287 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:53.960 the advancements in the physical training, the devancements in the 288 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:58.200 technical the technology that helps kids train and become better players, 289 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:02.080 and within America especial within you soccer, the opportunities and 290 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:05.399 the different areas that they can go to and be 291 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:06.519 successful is amazing. 292 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:08.360 Yeah, well we got a few minutes. Got a couple 293 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:11.399 of minutes, right, Who was your biggest influence? And I 294 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:13.279 know a lot of the guys that you coach with, 295 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:14.679 but who was the influencer? 296 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:15.399 Yeah? 297 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:17.720 I think from a soccer perspective, there's two that really 298 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:20.159 stand out in my career as a player. I played 299 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:23.559 for a gentleman who coached at Tucson High but he 300 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:27.919 was a local youth club coach. He came from Libya. 301 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:31.279 His name was Ibrahim Abusad, and he was an old 302 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:33.759 school you know. It was the you know, intensity and 303 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:35.360 everything you did. You trained hard every day. 304 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:37.799 There was no days off, and that's where you got 305 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:38.080 it from. 306 00:12:38.200 --> 00:12:38.519 Yeah. 307 00:12:38.559 --> 00:12:41.360 So you know when I was fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen nineteen, 308 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:42.679 and he coached me when I was a player at 309 00:12:42.679 --> 00:12:43.879 Pima in nineteen eighty eight. 310 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:45.279 I mean he. 311 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:47.919 Really impacted me in a lot of different ways, you know, 312 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:50.480 And you know, I think I model a lot of 313 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:54.200 my behaviors after him. That was a no, he's in Atlanta. 314 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:57.320 I mean he was he still kind of doing what 315 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:01.720 he's doing. He became very successful engineer and soccer. He 316 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:05.039 was with the Libyan national team for a while, and 317 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:06.879 then he moved to the United States, and he was 318 00:13:06.960 --> 00:13:09.360 very good here in the youth programs in soccer and 319 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:12.000 even Atlanta. I think he won a national championship with 320 00:13:12.039 --> 00:13:13.039 a youth club over there. 321 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:15.240 But uh, you know, he's an engineer. 322 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:18.799 He's a father, His his his his children were very good. 323 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:21.440 Soccer players as well. Then of course the other one. 324 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:23.440 And I think pretty much if you talked about soccer 325 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:25.279 and Tusson, there's always gonna be one name that comes 326 00:13:25.320 --> 00:13:26.320 across the board. 327 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:27.399 You know, with Wolfgang whever. 328 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:31.039 You know, I basically did an internship with Wolfgang for 329 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:34.200 about five six years, and that relationship has now developed 330 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:35.320 for the last twenty years. 331 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:38.120 Yeah, and you know, you know, back then I got 332 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:38.399 paid a. 333 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:40.200 Little bit of money when it really I should have 334 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:42.600 probably been paying him money for where I was learning. 335 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:44.679 Yeah, guys, and I think you know. 336 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:47.240 Again, you probably heard that story, you know, one hundred 337 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:49.720 times if you talk to soccer people in Tucson. 338 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:51.759 But yeah, you know, and what I learned a lot 339 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:52.399 from wolf was. 340 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:56.120 A lot of player management, professionalism, organization. 341 00:13:57.360 --> 00:13:59.799 So you know, as a coach, I think I learned 342 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:00.840 a lot lot more from him. 343 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:05.639 Yeah, the god the godfather, grandfather of soccer in Tucsons, right, very, 344 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:08.600 very humble guy, very He's a funny dude. You wouldn't 345 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:10.720 know it, but you know when he first came here, 346 00:14:10.759 --> 00:14:12.639 he would you know, he used the effort a lot 347 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:15.000 because that's what he heard people talking, you know, at 348 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:18.960 the games. What are they saying these words? So he 349 00:14:19.320 --> 00:14:22.320 kind of mimicked the Americans. You don't go into games, yeah, 350 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:22.639 you know. 351 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:24.720 And there's another guy who's changed, guys, you know, he 352 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:25.840 just like all. 353 00:14:25.720 --> 00:14:28.159 Of us, he's adapted with the times, Chruse. The one 354 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:30.159 thing that hasn't changed is the job he does. In 355 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:32.799 an amount of times he wins. That's been consistent for 356 00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:33.840 forty years now. 357 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:38.039 Right, right, No, the most successful soccer coach in the state. Yeah, 358 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:40.320 I think so, most wins probably, Yeah, And I think. 359 00:14:40.159 --> 00:14:42.559 He's probably in the top ten in the country. 360 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:44.480 If I guess right, right, And he's still going strong. 361 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:45.720 I haven't seen him in a while. We've talked a 362 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:48.159 couple of times. Let's go take the break. We'll get 363 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:49.919 ahold of a Jake or he'll call us, and then 364 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:51.720 we'll talk about a lot of things. Going on with 365 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:54.559 football u A. 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