Speaker 1: Billy Cunningham, the Great America, and welcome this Friday afternoon
Speaker 1: in the Tri State Reds Baseball hot as a firecracker.
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll maybe they'll catch these Chicago Cubs. Maybe not.
Speaker 1: The Rocks are in town for the next three in
Speaker 1: the Rock Stink. They're like seventy five games under five hundred.
Speaker 1: The Reds win two or three or three or three.
Speaker 1: They're going to march for glory and for some the
Speaker 1: judgment Seat of God coming up later as an expert
Speaker 1: on Antifa and what they're doing to finance the chaos
Speaker 1: in America. But until then, Ali Bradley is a top
Speaker 1: reporter in the nation relative to a border issue. She's
Speaker 1: headquartered in Del Rio, Texas. She's been there for a
Speaker 1: long time for the good times in the bed and
Speaker 1: Ali Bradley, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And
Speaker 1: first of all, there's chaos in Texas because of the flooding,
Speaker 1: but also there's a lack of chaos on the southern border.
Speaker 1: I see a posting you had on News Nation. Border
Speaker 1: crossings have dropped following target and enforcement in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: an effort that sparked protests and federalization the state's National Guard,
Speaker 1: and I see earlier today. I saw this video on
Speaker 1: Wednesday and Thursday out of ICE facilities, which is totally ridiculous. So,
Speaker 1: just in general, since you've been there for the good
Speaker 1: times in the bed, what is the status of the
Speaker 1: Southern border as I speak?
Speaker 2: Yeah, hi, sir, thanks for having me. So the Southern border,
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, the crossings have plummeted. I mean, agents
Speaker 2: down here are essentially bored right now because there's so
Speaker 2: many of them that are down here, but there's nobody
Speaker 2: crossing right We're seeing on average around two hundred crossings
Speaker 2: a day if that. Now, when we talk about the
Speaker 2: La riots and the things that broke out there, we
Speaker 2: started seeing that interior enforcement really ramp up around June
Speaker 2: seventh and eighth, and then when you look at June eighth,
Speaker 2: they're around two hundred and seventy crossings. Sost forward to
Speaker 2: June twentieth, plummeted to one hundred in a single day,
Speaker 2: all across the Southern border. So the chiefs down there,
Speaker 2: who's running operations on the ground, he's attributing it to
Speaker 2: their presence and the consequences that come with that. He says,
Speaker 2: you know, migrants aren't going to pay the cartel, you know,
Speaker 2: three to five thousand dollars to come here to hide
Speaker 2: in the shadows, to just be removed ultimately anyways. And
Speaker 2: so when you look at those situations and what are
Speaker 2: they going to do, come here to work at a
Speaker 2: home depot. No, that's not going to work because look
Speaker 2: what they're doing in La at the home depots, right
Speaker 2: So they're not cross they're not paying the cartel to
Speaker 2: cross right now because it doesn't benefit them because if
Speaker 2: they come into the country illegally, they're likely going to
Speaker 2: be removed. That's at least what the chief on the
Speaker 2: ground is saying, is the reason for these crossings, this
Speaker 2: new downward trend, because we've seen the downward trend since
Speaker 2: President Trump took office. Right We saw the downward trend
Speaker 2: begin at the end of the Biden administration because they
Speaker 2: basically hadn't about face and started actually kind of bringing
Speaker 2: consequences at the southern border. But then the current president
Speaker 2: of course doubling down, ramping up those deportation efforts. And
Speaker 2: so that's what they are attributing right now to the
Speaker 2: newest downward trend that we're seeing. When we look at
Speaker 2: July eighth compared to June eighth, about one hundred crossings
Speaker 2: difference there from two hundred and seventy to around one
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy. So that's what we're looking at, and
Speaker 2: that's you know, those are statistics, right, Probably I don't
Speaker 2: believe in coincidence. I don't think that you're a coincidence
Speaker 2: guy either. So you see, you know, you see actions
Speaker 2: and then you see something you know, cause and effect,
Speaker 2: and that's what they're attributing this latest decline. But when
Speaker 2: you talk about Texas, right, I mean, yes, everybody's focusing
Speaker 2: on the flooding. But remember on the fourth of July,
Speaker 2: there was a violent attack where an agent was hurt.
Speaker 2: Then fast forward a couple of days another violent attack
Speaker 2: at a McCallan Border Patrol station where two local police
Speaker 2: were injured, and then a Border patrol employee was injured.
Speaker 2: And so maybe you don't have crossings right now, but
Speaker 2: there's certainly not a shortage of wark right now for
Speaker 2: these agents and officers on the ground down here, because
Speaker 2: they are still seeing issues and that might not be
Speaker 2: by way of border crossers, right it might be by
Speaker 2: way of attacks that are happening towards them, were at them,
Speaker 2: and you know, the chief when I spoke with him,
Speaker 2: he's saying that he attributes that to the negative rhetoric
Speaker 2: that we're hearing from lawmakers from you know, even the
Speaker 2: vice mayor down there in California and one of the
Speaker 2: cities had called for basically gang members to assemble against
Speaker 2: ice and federal agents that are down there. And so
Speaker 2: there's a lot that they're still doing, and there's a
Speaker 2: lot that they're working on. But the reality here, Bill is,
Speaker 2: you know, there's not a story at the border. A
Speaker 2: border patrol can do their job because they've been around
Speaker 2: for one hundred years because people have always tried to
Speaker 2: get into the country. So as long as they're able
Speaker 2: to actually stop those individuals who are trying to come
Speaker 2: into the country illegally, there's not really a story down here.
Speaker 2: Every state is a border state, is what we said
Speaker 2: for the last four years, and now it's what we're seeing.
Speaker 2: So the work is now in the interior.
Speaker 1: The businesses was good for the cartels. Some of the
Speaker 1: numbers are off the charts. We're talking billions and billions
Speaker 1: of dollars made by the three or four Sinelo et cetera.
Speaker 1: Ten de Ragua billions of dollars every year in three
Speaker 1: to five one thousand dollars each. If you couldn't pay
Speaker 1: with cash, you paid with your body or working in
Speaker 1: burglary gangs. And that's now gone. And so how does
Speaker 1: when you lose a lot of business and you're a
Speaker 1: member of the cartel, thousands of members of the cartel,
Speaker 1: and Trump has cost them billions of dollars in business,
Speaker 1: are they trying to regroup that through other means?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So right now we're seeing a couple of new
Speaker 2: tunnels pop up, We're seeing some other smuggling routes. But
Speaker 2: what's interesting is we haven't seen smuggling ramp up to
Speaker 2: a level that's unmanageable yet. Right we haven't seen more
Speaker 2: vehicle pursuits. We haven't seen things like that. But if
Speaker 2: history is repeats itself, which is what we've seen, we
Speaker 2: know that it takes months for the cartel to pivot.
Speaker 2: Think about Title forty two ending in May of twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three. It took nearly six months for them to pivot.
Speaker 2: And then what happened in December of twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: record breaking month, over three hundred and two thousand people
Speaker 2: crossed into the country that month, so it always takes
Speaker 2: time for them to figure out how we're enforcing the law.
Speaker 2: So right now, what people believe down here on the
Speaker 2: ground is it's not if, but when they're going to
Speaker 2: make a move, what that move is, they're waiting. They
Speaker 2: don't know what that move looks like. I mean, there
Speaker 2: was one post incident report recently that was a learning
Speaker 2: agents of a potential for thirty five Iranian nationals to
Speaker 2: move through the southern border with the help of the
Speaker 2: Sinaloa cartel, and that has not materialized. I know that
Speaker 2: border patrol is basically shoulder to shoulder at the border
Speaker 2: in that area where they were anticipated to cross, so
Speaker 2: they never got, you know, thirty five individuals having crossed over.
Speaker 2: So they are out there preventing those things from happening.
Speaker 2: They're preventing the cartel from having success, and so it
Speaker 2: will be interesting to see the moves that they make,
Speaker 2: because yeah, you're right, they were making thirteen billion dollars
Speaker 2: a year moving people into the country illegally. That doesn't
Speaker 2: even account for the drug money that they were making.
Speaker 2: That's according to Congress. And so if you're young guys,
Speaker 2: and you've got a taste of thirteen billion dollars a year,
Speaker 2: you think you're just giving up. Probably not. No one
Speaker 2: believes down here that the cartel are done, that they
Speaker 2: just gave up. So everybody is at the ready. Everybody
Speaker 2: is waiting to see what that will look like. They
Speaker 2: anticipate it to be more creative smuggling tactics, semi trucks,
Speaker 2: things like that. You'll remember we had a tragedy back
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three. I believe it was in San
Speaker 2: Anton where dozens of people died in a hot trailer.
Speaker 2: And so that is something that we could see ramping
Speaker 2: up again. They don't know where. We're just sitting and
Speaker 2: waiting to see what the cartel is going to do.
Speaker 2: But again, nobody believes that they just gave up.
Speaker 1: Well, and when you talk about in one month under
Speaker 1: Joe Biden, three hundred and two thousand came in one month,
Speaker 1: dispersed all over the country. That's the population of Cincinnati, Ohio.
Speaker 1: And that's in one month. And now the numbers down
Speaker 1: to one hundred, from three hundred and two thousand to
Speaker 1: one hundred, is that right?
Speaker 2: Well, the numbers down, the numbers down to six thousand
Speaker 2: for the entire month, but we're only seeing about one
Speaker 2: hundred to two hundred a day. And I mean looking
Speaker 2: like the San Diego sector, which was one of the
Speaker 2: pre premiere sectors for seeing border crossings, was one of
Speaker 2: the top sectors during the Biden administration for that activity.
Speaker 2: And there's been days, Bill, I'm looking at the numbers.
Speaker 2: There were days when they saw five individuals cross in
Speaker 2: a day, just five, and they have seen thousands, right,
Speaker 2: and so yeah, that's the juxtaposition of where they're at.
Speaker 2: You know, the Del Rio sector, they were seeing thousands
Speaker 2: at one point. Some days they see twelve, you know,
Speaker 2: or fewer. And so in Del Rio sector, that's where
Speaker 2: Eagle passes, that's where the Haitian crisis was, right, so
Speaker 2: you remember those things. Now we're seeing twelve people and
Speaker 2: so it's certainly changed. But yeah, around six thousand and
Speaker 2: seventy for the month of June when compared to three
Speaker 2: hundred and two thousand for the month of December and
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: And you talk about the migrants that are murdered and
Speaker 1: killed because of the policies of Joe Biden. You talk
Speaker 1: about the boys and girls sold into sexual slavery under
Speaker 1: Joe Biden. You talk about the importation of fens and ol,
Speaker 1: heroin and drugs under Joe Biden. And I saw about
Speaker 1: a month ago a headline in the Washington Post that
Speaker 1: sentinel deaths in America have plummeted and they can't figure
Speaker 1: out why. Canally Bradley put a sharper point as to
Speaker 1: why that happened today.
Speaker 2: Well, when you have more individuals watching for fentanyl, you
Speaker 2: have more resources stopping the drug from coming in. You
Speaker 2: have less people dying from it, right, so you have
Speaker 2: more of the drugs being stopped before it gets into
Speaker 2: the hands of Americans. And that's what the Trump administration
Speaker 2: is touting right now, saying that they're seizing the drugs
Speaker 2: instead of it making it into the United States because
Speaker 2: they have the resources to stop it. I mean, I
Speaker 2: was tracking it at one point where there were forty
Speaker 2: three million pills in the Nogallas Port of Entry in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three alone, and that's the Nogallas Port of
Speaker 2: Entry didn't even include San Diego, which rivaled Nogalls. So
Speaker 2: around forty two million pills over in San Diego. And
Speaker 2: you have to consider that the cartel is a profit
Speaker 2: and lost business. So what sheriffs and law enforcement down
Speaker 2: the border told me is that they were willing to
Speaker 2: lose ten to twelve percent of their their profit. Right,
Speaker 2: so you look at you know, over eighty million pills
Speaker 2: between two sectors and twenty twenty three alone, and that
Speaker 2: was ten to twelve percent of their business. So you know,
Speaker 2: I understand that the Trump administration is stopping more drugs.
Speaker 2: I understand fewer people are dying, but my question is
Speaker 2: where are the drugs coming in? Because you know that
Speaker 2: they're still there's still a market for it. You know,
Speaker 2: the cartel is still moving something. So did they move
Speaker 2: it all under the Biden administration. It's in the United
Speaker 2: States already and they're just waiting for their move. But
Speaker 2: here's the other thing. They don't profit off of dead clients,
Speaker 2: and everyone's dying off of fetanyl. So the other thing
Speaker 2: is they pivoted a little bit too back to methamfetain
Speaker 2: and cocaine because the market is there. United States citizens
Speaker 2: want drugs. They want met they want cocaine, they're willing
Speaker 2: to buy it. They want feentanyl too, right, but they're
Speaker 2: dying off of it. So the cartel's not making money
Speaker 2: hand over fist off of the people that die from it.
Speaker 2: So those are a couple of the points of why
Speaker 2: we're seeing fewer people die from fentanyl.
Speaker 1: Had a comment from you. You're the expert on the
Speaker 1: subject matter to see why something is occurring during the
Speaker 1: Obama years, and you weren't down in Texas. During the
Speaker 1: Obama years, from say twenty nine to January of twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: Obama was the deporter in chief. Some of the numbers
Speaker 1: I saw between three and five million illegals were deported
Speaker 1: under Barack Hussein. Obama three to five million, and according
Speaker 1: to known records of immigration it's about three point two.
Speaker 1: Another two million were a self deport that they believe.
Speaker 1: So the deporter in chief, without question, in American history
Speaker 1: was President Obama because he enforced the law. The comments
Speaker 1: he made as president in twenty nine to twenty ten,
Speaker 1: Obama sounds like Donald Trump today. I've played him before
Speaker 1: that Obama Clinton was no different than the comments of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump today. He was the deporter in chief. But
Speaker 1: there were no sanctuary cities, there were no sanctuary states.
Speaker 1: In fact, the Democratic Party largely laid down and played
Speaker 1: dead when Obama simply enforced the law, and one of
Speaker 1: his top guys was a guy named Tom Homan. Homan
Speaker 1: worked for Obama and deported three to five million without
Speaker 1: media coverage, without these cities and rebellion, without assaulting ICE officials,
Speaker 1: without surrounding ICE agents doing their job in the FBI.
Speaker 1: How this is kind of a value judgment and maybe
Speaker 1: outside of the area of expertise. But how come during
Speaker 1: Obama there were millions more deported than under Trump. But
Speaker 1: under Trump the Democratic Party is in rebellion, including this
Speaker 1: vice mayor, including Karen bass La mayor who gets around
Speaker 1: the ICE facilities, don't don't let the cars leave in
Speaker 1: the morning out of their lots. How Come under Obama
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party was with the deportation, there were no
Speaker 1: sanctuary cities, and now all hell's breaking loose by the
Speaker 1: same Democratic Party and Obama numbers are well beyond Donald Trump's.
Speaker 1: Trump's numbers aren't even close. So why is there such
Speaker 1: a rebellion?
Speaker 2: Well, and you have to consider just how much in
Speaker 2: the gration policy has changed or hasn't changed, rather from
Speaker 2: Obama to now right, and the attention that has been
Speaker 2: put on it, because heck, everyone is arguing about social
Speaker 2: security under Obama, you can't do that anymore. So both
Speaker 2: sides want the problem of immigration more than they want
Speaker 2: the solution. That's one number two. You have a policy.
Speaker 2: You have a president right now who wants eyeballs on
Speaker 2: this problem. He wants publicity on this problem. He promised
Speaker 2: the largest deportation effort that we have seen, so he
Speaker 2: wants to deliver that. So is that part of their
Speaker 2: demise here, because again, Obama did it very quietly. My
Speaker 2: sister worked at a facility that was basically an assembly line, right,
Speaker 2: and she called my mom crying, saying her friends were
Speaker 2: being ripped out of their job, right, because that was
Speaker 2: happening under Obama too, And that's what's happening right now, right.
Speaker 2: But the thing is, under Obama, they did it very quietly.
Speaker 2: They didn't do it publicized, they didn't do it with
Speaker 2: bells and whistles. And now you've got a president who's saying,
Speaker 2: look at what we're doing. Look at this bad guy
Speaker 2: that we arrested. Look at this bad guy that we arrested.
Speaker 2: So if the good comes the bad, when you want
Speaker 2: to publicize something, everything's public then. And so that's what
Speaker 2: I believe is causing a lot of this is the
Speaker 2: publicity of it, and then you have the roundabout way
Speaker 2: that the docsing is happening in all of these different
Speaker 2: things with these agitators, right, But you don't get one
Speaker 2: without the other. So if they were doing it more quietly,
Speaker 2: possibly would it be look the same. I don't know,
Speaker 2: because right now, again they want the eyeballs on this.
Speaker 2: They want America to see what they're doing, very stark
Speaker 2: contrast to what the Obama administration did.
Speaker 1: Well, you brought up a great point. They want the problem,
Speaker 1: not a solution. So the Democrats under Obama had the
Speaker 1: perfect example, the perfect way to completely reform illegal immigration.
Speaker 1: You could have the so called dreamers, you could have
Speaker 1: a work permits expanded, you could have better border security.
Speaker 1: But the Democrats realize, yeah.
Speaker 2: They could have done that under Biden because they controlled
Speaker 2: Congress for the first two years, as.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, and they did.
Speaker 2: They could have reworked immigration, they could have allowed people
Speaker 2: to come in and seek asylum on economic grounds. They
Speaker 2: could have done a myriad of things. But they didn't,
Speaker 2: and a lot of people forget that as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Biden had on Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer the first
Speaker 1: two years happy days. You're here again. The last thing
Speaker 1: they touched was immigration because they had a policy of
Speaker 1: not enforcing the law. They didn'tone change the law, having
Speaker 1: believed they're never going to be another Republican president. By
Speaker 1: the way, there's going to be a Democratic president at
Speaker 1: some point in their future. That's going to happen too.
Speaker 1: It goes back and forth, and so it's amazing to
Speaker 1: me that the problem is good for each parties. The
Speaker 1: solution is not. And Ali Bradley, we got to run.
Speaker 1: But you're the best of this. And I have hoped
Speaker 1: that maybe you'll be out of a job soon and
Speaker 1: that there'll be no legal immigration in the country in
Speaker 1: del Rio. You'll be somewhere else reporting, But this has
Speaker 1: been your life's work. And yeah, once again, thanks for
Speaker 1: coming on the Bill Cunningham Show and Ali Bradley News Nation.
Speaker 1: You're a great American. Thank you very much, Thank.
Speaker 2: You, sir, and God bless you.
Speaker 1: We'll talk soon, and God bless America. Thank you. There's
Speaker 1: the answer. Each party, but especially the Democrats, they want
Speaker 1: the problem. They don't want a solution because the problem
Speaker 1: benefits them, they think politically. Let's continue. Bill Cunningham, News
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