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<v Speaker 1>Billy Cunningham, the Great America, and welcome this Friday afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>in the Tri State Reds Baseball hot as a firecracker.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they'll maybe they'll catch these Chicago Cubs. Maybe not.

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<v Speaker 1>The Rocks are in town for the next three in

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<v Speaker 1>the Rock Stink. They're like seventy five games under five hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>The Reds win two or three or three or three.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to march for glory and for some the

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<v Speaker 1>judgment Seat of God coming up later as an expert

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<v Speaker 1>on Antifa and what they're doing to finance the chaos

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<v Speaker 1>in America. But until then, Ali Bradley is a top

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<v Speaker 1>reporter in the nation relative to a border issue. She's

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<v Speaker 1>headquartered in Del Rio, Texas. She's been there for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time for the good times in the bed and

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<v Speaker 1>Ali Bradley, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, there's chaos in Texas because of the flooding,

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<v Speaker 1>but also there's a lack of chaos on the southern border.

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<v Speaker 1>I see a posting you had on News Nation. Border

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<v Speaker 1>crossings have dropped following target and enforcement in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>an effort that sparked protests and federalization the state's National Guard,

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<v Speaker 1>and I see earlier today. I saw this video on

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday and Thursday out of ICE facilities, which is totally ridiculous. So,

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<v Speaker 1>just in general, since you've been there for the good

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<v Speaker 1>times in the bed, what is the status of the

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<v Speaker 1>Southern border as I speak?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hi, sir, thanks for having me. So the Southern border,

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<v Speaker 2>as you mentioned, the crossings have plummeted. I mean, agents

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<v Speaker 2>down here are essentially bored right now because there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many of them that are down here, but there's nobody

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<v Speaker 2>crossing right We're seeing on average around two hundred crossings

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<v Speaker 2>a day if that. Now, when we talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>La riots and the things that broke out there, we

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<v Speaker 2>started seeing that interior enforcement really ramp up around June

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<v Speaker 2>seventh and eighth, and then when you look at June eighth,

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<v Speaker 2>they're around two hundred and seventy crossings. Sost forward to

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<v Speaker 2>June twentieth, plummeted to one hundred in a single day,

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<v Speaker 2>all across the Southern border. So the chiefs down there,

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<v Speaker 2>who's running operations on the ground, he's attributing it to

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<v Speaker 2>their presence and the consequences that come with that. He says,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, migrants aren't going to pay the cartel, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>three to five thousand dollars to come here to hide

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<v Speaker 2>in the shadows, to just be removed ultimately anyways. And

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<v Speaker 2>so when you look at those situations and what are

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<v Speaker 2>they going to do, come here to work at a

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<v Speaker 2>home depot. No, that's not going to work because look

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<v Speaker 2>what they're doing in La at the home depots, right

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<v Speaker 2>So they're not cross they're not paying the cartel to

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<v Speaker 2>cross right now because it doesn't benefit them because if

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<v Speaker 2>they come into the country illegally, they're likely going to

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<v Speaker 2>be removed. That's at least what the chief on the

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<v Speaker 2>ground is saying, is the reason for these crossings, this

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<v Speaker 2>new downward trend, because we've seen the downward trend since

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump took office. Right We saw the downward trend

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<v Speaker 2>begin at the end of the Biden administration because they

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<v Speaker 2>basically hadn't about face and started actually kind of bringing

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<v Speaker 2>consequences at the southern border. But then the current president

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<v Speaker 2>of course doubling down, ramping up those deportation efforts. And

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<v Speaker 2>so that's what they are attributing right now to the

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<v Speaker 2>newest downward trend that we're seeing. When we look at

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<v Speaker 2>July eighth compared to June eighth, about one hundred crossings

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<v Speaker 2>difference there from two hundred and seventy to around one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and seventy. So that's what we're looking at, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's you know, those are statistics, right, Probably I don't

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<v Speaker 2>believe in coincidence. I don't think that you're a coincidence

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<v Speaker 2>guy either. So you see, you know, you see actions

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<v Speaker 2>and then you see something you know, cause and effect,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what they're attributing this latest decline. But when

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<v Speaker 2>you talk about Texas, right, I mean, yes, everybody's focusing

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<v Speaker 2>on the flooding. But remember on the fourth of July,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a violent attack where an agent was hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>Then fast forward a couple of days another violent attack

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<v Speaker 2>at a McCallan Border Patrol station where two local police

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<v Speaker 2>were injured, and then a Border patrol employee was injured.

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<v Speaker 2>And so maybe you don't have crossings right now, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's certainly not a shortage of wark right now for

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<v Speaker 2>these agents and officers on the ground down here, because

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<v Speaker 2>they are still seeing issues and that might not be

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<v Speaker 2>by way of border crossers, right it might be by

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<v Speaker 2>way of attacks that are happening towards them, were at them,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, the chief when I spoke with him,

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<v Speaker 2>he's saying that he attributes that to the negative rhetoric

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<v Speaker 2>that we're hearing from lawmakers from you know, even the

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<v Speaker 2>vice mayor down there in California and one of the

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<v Speaker 2>cities had called for basically gang members to assemble against

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<v Speaker 2>ice and federal agents that are down there. And so

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot that they're still doing, and there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot that they're working on. But the reality here, Bill is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's not a story at the border. A

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<v Speaker 2>border patrol can do their job because they've been around

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<v Speaker 2>for one hundred years because people have always tried to

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<v Speaker 2>get into the country. So as long as they're able

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<v Speaker 2>to actually stop those individuals who are trying to come

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<v Speaker 2>into the country illegally, there's not really a story down here.

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<v Speaker 2>Every state is a border state, is what we said

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<v Speaker 2>for the last four years, and now it's what we're seeing.

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<v Speaker 2>So the work is now in the interior.

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<v Speaker 1>The businesses was good for the cartels. Some of the

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<v Speaker 1>numbers are off the charts. We're talking billions and billions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars made by the three or four Sinelo et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten de Ragua billions of dollars every year in three

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<v Speaker 1>to five one thousand dollars each. If you couldn't pay

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<v Speaker 1>with cash, you paid with your body or working in

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<v Speaker 1>burglary gangs. And that's now gone. And so how does

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<v Speaker 1>when you lose a lot of business and you're a

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<v Speaker 1>member of the cartel, thousands of members of the cartel,

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<v Speaker 1>and Trump has cost them billions of dollars in business,

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<v Speaker 1>are they trying to regroup that through other means?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So right now we're seeing a couple of new

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<v Speaker 2>tunnels pop up, We're seeing some other smuggling routes. But

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<v Speaker 2>what's interesting is we haven't seen smuggling ramp up to

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<v Speaker 2>a level that's unmanageable yet. Right we haven't seen more

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<v Speaker 2>vehicle pursuits. We haven't seen things like that. But if

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<v Speaker 2>history is repeats itself, which is what we've seen, we

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<v Speaker 2>know that it takes months for the cartel to pivot.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about Title forty two ending in May of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three. It took nearly six months for them to pivot.

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<v Speaker 2>And then what happened in December of twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>record breaking month, over three hundred and two thousand people

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<v Speaker 2>crossed into the country that month, so it always takes

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<v Speaker 2>time for them to figure out how we're enforcing the law.

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<v Speaker 2>So right now, what people believe down here on the

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<v Speaker 2>ground is it's not if, but when they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>make a move, what that move is, they're waiting. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what that move looks like. I mean, there

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<v Speaker 2>was one post incident report recently that was a learning

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<v Speaker 2>agents of a potential for thirty five Iranian nationals to

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<v Speaker 2>move through the southern border with the help of the

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<v Speaker 2>Sinaloa cartel, and that has not materialized. I know that

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<v Speaker 2>border patrol is basically shoulder to shoulder at the border

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<v Speaker 2>in that area where they were anticipated to cross, so

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<v Speaker 2>they never got, you know, thirty five individuals having crossed over.

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<v Speaker 2>So they are out there preventing those things from happening.

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<v Speaker 2>They're preventing the cartel from having success, and so it

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<v Speaker 2>will be interesting to see the moves that they make,

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<v Speaker 2>because yeah, you're right, they were making thirteen billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>a year moving people into the country illegally. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>even account for the drug money that they were making.

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<v Speaker 2>That's according to Congress. And so if you're young guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and you've got a taste of thirteen billion dollars a year,

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<v Speaker 2>you think you're just giving up. Probably not. No one

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<v Speaker 2>believes down here that the cartel are done, that they

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<v Speaker 2>just gave up. So everybody is at the ready. Everybody

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<v Speaker 2>is waiting to see what that will look like. They

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<v Speaker 2>anticipate it to be more creative smuggling tactics, semi trucks,

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<v Speaker 2>things like that. You'll remember we had a tragedy back

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty three. I believe it was in San

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<v Speaker 2>Anton where dozens of people died in a hot trailer.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that is something that we could see ramping

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<v Speaker 2>up again. They don't know where. We're just sitting and

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<v Speaker 2>waiting to see what the cartel is going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, nobody believes that they just gave up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and when you talk about in one month under

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden, three hundred and two thousand came in one month,

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<v Speaker 1>dispersed all over the country. That's the population of Cincinnati, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's in one month. And now the numbers down

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<v Speaker 1>to one hundred, from three hundred and two thousand to

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred, is that right?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the numbers down, the numbers down to six thousand

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<v Speaker 2>for the entire month, but we're only seeing about one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred to two hundred a day. And I mean looking

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<v Speaker 2>like the San Diego sector, which was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>pre premiere sectors for seeing border crossings, was one of

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<v Speaker 2>the top sectors during the Biden administration for that activity.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's been days, Bill, I'm looking at the numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>There were days when they saw five individuals cross in

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<v Speaker 2>a day, just five, and they have seen thousands, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and so yeah, that's the juxtaposition of where they're at.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the Del Rio sector, they were seeing thousands

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<v Speaker 2>at one point. Some days they see twelve, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>or fewer. And so in Del Rio sector, that's where

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<v Speaker 2>Eagle passes, that's where the Haitian crisis was, right, so

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<v Speaker 2>you remember those things. Now we're seeing twelve people and

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<v Speaker 2>so it's certainly changed. But yeah, around six thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>seventy for the month of June when compared to three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and two thousand for the month of December and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>And you talk about the migrants that are murdered and

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<v Speaker 1>killed because of the policies of Joe Biden. You talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the boys and girls sold into sexual slavery under

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden. You talk about the importation of fens and ol,

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<v Speaker 1>heroin and drugs under Joe Biden. And I saw about

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<v Speaker 1>a month ago a headline in the Washington Post that

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<v Speaker 1>sentinel deaths in America have plummeted and they can't figure

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<v Speaker 1>out why. Canally Bradley put a sharper point as to

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<v Speaker 1>why that happened today.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when you have more individuals watching for fentanyl, you

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<v Speaker 2>have more resources stopping the drug from coming in. You

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<v Speaker 2>have less people dying from it, right, so you have

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<v Speaker 2>more of the drugs being stopped before it gets into

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<v Speaker 2>the hands of Americans. And that's what the Trump administration

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<v Speaker 2>is touting right now, saying that they're seizing the drugs

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<v Speaker 2>instead of it making it into the United States because

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<v Speaker 2>they have the resources to stop it. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>was tracking it at one point where there were forty

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<v Speaker 2>three million pills in the Nogallas Port of Entry in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three alone, and that's the Nogallas Port of

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<v Speaker 2>Entry didn't even include San Diego, which rivaled Nogalls. So

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<v Speaker 2>around forty two million pills over in San Diego. And

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<v Speaker 2>you have to consider that the cartel is a profit

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<v Speaker 2>and lost business. So what sheriffs and law enforcement down

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<v Speaker 2>the border told me is that they were willing to

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<v Speaker 2>lose ten to twelve percent of their their profit. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>so you look at you know, over eighty million pills

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<v Speaker 2>between two sectors and twenty twenty three alone, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was ten to twelve percent of their business. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that the Trump administration is stopping more drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand fewer people are dying, but my question is

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<v Speaker 2>where are the drugs coming in? Because you know that

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<v Speaker 2>they're still there's still a market for it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the cartel is still moving something. So did they move

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<v Speaker 2>it all under the Biden administration. It's in the United

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<v Speaker 2>States already and they're just waiting for their move. But

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<v Speaker 2>here's the other thing. They don't profit off of dead clients,

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone's dying off of fetanyl. So the other thing

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<v Speaker 2>is they pivoted a little bit too back to methamfetain

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<v Speaker 2>and cocaine because the market is there. United States citizens

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<v Speaker 2>want drugs. They want met they want cocaine, they're willing

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<v Speaker 2>to buy it. They want feentanyl too, right, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>hand over fist off of the people that die from it.

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<v Speaker 2>So those are a couple of the points of why

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<v Speaker 1>Had a comment from you. You're the expert on the

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<v Speaker 1>subject matter to see why something is occurring during the

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<v Speaker 1>Obama years, and you weren't down in Texas. During the

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<v Speaker 1>Obama years, from say twenty nine to January of twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>Obama was the deporter in chief. Some of the numbers

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<v Speaker 1>I saw between three and five million illegals were deported

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<v Speaker 1>under Barack Hussein. Obama three to five million, and according

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<v Speaker 1>to known records of immigration it's about three point two.

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<v Speaker 1>Another two million were a self deport that they believe.

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<v Speaker 1>So the deporter in chief, without question, in American history

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<v Speaker 1>was President Obama because he enforced the law. The comments

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<v Speaker 1>he made as president in twenty nine to twenty ten,

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<v Speaker 1>Obama sounds like Donald Trump today. I've played him before

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<v Speaker 1>that Obama Clinton was no different than the comments of

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump today. He was the deporter in chief. But

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<v Speaker 1>there were no sanctuary cities, there were no sanctuary states.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, the Democratic Party largely laid down and played

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<v Speaker 1>dead when Obama simply enforced the law, and one of

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<v Speaker 1>his top guys was a guy named Tom Homan. Homan

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<v Speaker 1>worked for Obama and deported three to five million without

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<v Speaker 1>media coverage, without these cities and rebellion, without assaulting ICE officials,

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<v Speaker 1>without surrounding ICE agents doing their job in the FBI.

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<v Speaker 1>How this is kind of a value judgment and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the area of expertise. But how come during

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<v Speaker 1>Obama there were millions more deported than under Trump. But

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<v Speaker 1>under Trump the Democratic Party is in rebellion, including this

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<v Speaker 1>vice mayor, including Karen bass La mayor who gets around

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<v Speaker 1>the ICE facilities, don't don't let the cars leave in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning out of their lots. How Come under Obama

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party was with the deportation, there were no

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<v Speaker 1>sanctuary cities, and now all hell's breaking loose by the

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<v Speaker 1>same Democratic Party and Obama numbers are well beyond Donald Trump's.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's numbers aren't even close. So why is there such

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<v Speaker 1>a rebellion?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and you have to consider just how much in

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<v Speaker 2>the gration policy has changed or hasn't changed, rather from

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<v Speaker 2>Obama to now right, and the attention that has been

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<v Speaker 2>put on it, because heck, everyone is arguing about social

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<v Speaker 2>security under Obama, you can't do that anymore. So both

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<v Speaker 2>sides want the problem of immigration more than they want

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<v Speaker 2>the solution. That's one number two. You have a policy.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a president right now who wants eyeballs on

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<v Speaker 2>this problem. He wants publicity on this problem. He promised

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<v Speaker 2>the largest deportation effort that we have seen, so he

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<v Speaker 2>wants to deliver that. So is that part of their

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<v Speaker 2>demise here, because again, Obama did it very quietly. My

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<v Speaker 2>sister worked at a facility that was basically an assembly line, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and she called my mom crying, saying her friends were

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<v Speaker 2>being ripped out of their job, right, because that was

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<v Speaker 2>happening under Obama too, And that's what's happening right now, right.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing is, under Obama, they did it very quietly.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't do it publicized, they didn't do it with

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<v Speaker 2>look at what we're doing. Look at this bad guy

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<v Speaker 2>that we arrested. Look at this bad guy that we arrested.

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<v Speaker 2>So if the good comes the bad, when you want

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<v Speaker 2>to publicize something, everything's public then. And so that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I believe is causing a lot of this is the

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<v Speaker 2>publicity of it, and then you have the roundabout way

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<v Speaker 2>that the docsing is happening in all of these different

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<v Speaker 2>things with these agitators, right, But you don't get one

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<v Speaker 2>without the other. So if they were doing it more quietly,

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<v Speaker 2>possibly would it be look the same. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>because right now, again they want the eyeballs on this.

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<v Speaker 2>They want America to see what they're doing, very stark

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<v Speaker 2>contrast to what the Obama administration did.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you brought up a great point. They want the problem,

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<v Speaker 1>not a solution. So the Democrats under Obama had the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect example, the perfect way to completely reform illegal immigration.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have the so called dreamers, you could have

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<v Speaker 1>a work permits expanded, you could have better border security.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Democrats realize, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They could have done that under Biden because they controlled

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<v Speaker 2>Congress for the first two years, as.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, and they did.

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<v Speaker 2>They could have reworked immigration, they could have allowed people

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<v Speaker 2>could have done a myriad of things. But they didn't,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people forget that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Biden had on Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer the first

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<v Speaker 1>two years happy days. You're here again. The last thing

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<v Speaker 1>they touched was immigration because they had a policy of

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<v Speaker 1>not enforcing the law. They didn'tone change the law, having

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<v Speaker 1>believed they're never going to be another Republican president. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, there's going to be a Democratic president at

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<v Speaker 1>some point in their future. That's going to happen too.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes back and forth, and so it's amazing to

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<v Speaker 1>me that the problem is good for each parties. The

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<v Speaker 1>solution is not. And Ali Bradley, we got to run.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're the best of this. And I have hoped

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe you'll be out of a job soon and

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<v Speaker 1>that there'll be no legal immigration in the country in

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<v Speaker 1>del Rio. You'll be somewhere else reporting, But this has

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<v Speaker 1>been your life's work. And yeah, once again, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>coming on the Bill Cunningham Show and Ali Bradley News Nation.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a great American. Thank you very much, Thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You, sir, and God bless you.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk soon, and God bless America. Thank you. There's

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<v Speaker 1>the answer. Each party, but especially the Democrats, they want

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<v Speaker 1>the problem. They don't want a solution because the problem

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<v Speaker 1>benefits them, they think politically. Let's continue. Bill Cunningham, News

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