Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
Speaker 1: KFI AM six.
Speaker 2: Fortyfi Mo Kelly and Marsha Collier on this Tech Thursday.
Speaker 2: Marsha Collier is always great to see you. You look
Speaker 2: heavenly and you're all white tonight.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Mo.
Speaker 5: I just love summer colors, summer clothes. Okay, I love clothes.
Speaker 6: Give me old winter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, give me any excuse. You know what can I say?
Speaker 2: You and I are Android people. I am very much
Speaker 2: a Google person. I used to set my calendar by October.
Speaker 2: Why is that? Well, October was usual. Usually they're annual
Speaker 2: event for their new release phones and accessories. Maybe it
Speaker 2: will be a tablet or or the pixel Watch. In
Speaker 2: recent years they moved it up to August. It was
Speaker 2: August thirteenth this year. Why is that, Marsha Collier.
Speaker 3: I have a feeling they just wanted to beat Apple.
Speaker 6: Oh, because Apple's annual event is usually in September.
Speaker 5: Exactly that way, you can easily beat and drop what
Speaker 5: you're doing. So that maybe Apple has to scramble with
Speaker 5: some software, which a couple of the things I'm going
Speaker 5: to tell you about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they might just have to Okay.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you though, because when I would view
Speaker 2: the event in October, I usually would get my phone.
Speaker 2: I should say, order my phone immediately and you'd probably
Speaker 2: get it in a week or so. But they've moved
Speaker 2: up this event, and the best you could do, from
Speaker 2: what I understand, is pre order these three new phones,
Speaker 2: which were unveiled in two new Pixel watches.
Speaker 6: You have to wait at least a month.
Speaker 2: You can order it, but what's the point of having
Speaker 2: this big soiree and you can't even get the product
Speaker 2: when you really really want it.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. You know, they want to.
Speaker 5: It's like they always leak stuff to the press about stuff,
Speaker 5: and I don't report it to you guys because it's
Speaker 5: not real yet.
Speaker 3: Suppose.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's their free pr yep, that's their game,
Speaker 5: and I don't want to play. But I look at
Speaker 5: these phones. They're more expensive than last year.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 2: To be clear, the Pixel eight was six hundred and
Speaker 2: ninety nine dollars. This year, the Pixel nine is seven
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety nine dollars.
Speaker 5: And the Pixel Pro nine Pro, which comes with a
Speaker 5: free year of Gemini Advanced Subscription.
Speaker 3: Nine ninety nine and.
Speaker 5: The Pixel pro XL starts at ten ninety nine, and
Speaker 5: that's not ten dollars, and the new Pixel nine pro
Speaker 5: fold starts at seventeen ninety nine.
Speaker 2: The Okay, my wife has a Pixel foll first generation
Speaker 2: that was like fifteen ninety nine. So you're saying there
Speaker 2: is a two basically a two thousand dollars phone which
Speaker 2: was made available. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it is, which
Speaker 2: will be obsolete in six months.
Speaker 5: You know, that's the thing we have to realize when
Speaker 5: we're buying these phones, we're really buying computers. That's what
Speaker 5: we're buying. We're not buying a phone anymore. It's a
Speaker 5: full on come. You can get a Dell computer for that.
Speaker 6: A pretty good one, hopefully darn good one. Actually.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but some of the features that are coming, and
Speaker 5: I wanted to share a couple to you because I
Speaker 5: thought a couple were pretty cool. First of all, there's
Speaker 5: AI all over everything. It's like they just whitewashed all
Speaker 5: the products with AI. And there are people according to
Speaker 5: some surveys that fifty two percent of people are more
Speaker 5: concerned than they are excited about AI. And when I
Speaker 5: read to you some of the things that they can
Speaker 5: do One of the things that Google has done which
Speaker 5: Apple can't do is Apple clearly highly upgrades their hardware
Speaker 5: every year. Yes, you know, every year they put more
Speaker 5: stuff into it. Apple wants to keep up with the
Speaker 5: operating system that can go back a couple editions of phones,
Speaker 5: so the new software won't work back on a lot
Speaker 5: of phones. So Google, even though there's a seven year
Speaker 5: update policy on the.
Speaker 6: Phone, at least for security updates, at.
Speaker 5: Least for security updates, because the technology that's in the
Speaker 5: hardware may not be able to support all the new features.
Speaker 5: And there are a couple features. I gotta tell you
Speaker 5: my favorite one because I love taking pictures. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's not a computer to me. To me, it's a
Speaker 5: fancy camera. I take pictures of everything. It's called the
Speaker 5: pixel nine is called ad me.
Speaker 3: Have you heard of it?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 6: I have not.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 5: It lets you take a group picture of a bunch
Speaker 5: of people. But there's the person who's taking the picture
Speaker 5: who's not in the group. So you take the picture
Speaker 5: and then you swap out a person and they take
Speaker 5: a picture with you what And the software intelligently combines
Speaker 5: both photos to make it look like the original photographer
Speaker 5: was there.
Speaker 6: All along, Well, that seems like cheating.
Speaker 3: It's ai.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get used to magic eraser, removing
Speaker 2: people and things from the background.
Speaker 5: I was writing, writing my new book, and I'm afraid
Speaker 5: I actually finished. But I'm demonstrating magic eraser. And what
Speaker 5: I didn't realize when I sent the screenshots of the
Speaker 5: work that i'd done. They make such big photos. It
Speaker 5: adds so much data when you use the magic eraser.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it leaves kind of a footprint you could
Speaker 2: tell like you know, oh, it almost like leaves the
Speaker 2: aura of whoever was there?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I took the Grand staircase at the Pantages theater had
Speaker 5: people on it. In the book, I've removed the people
Speaker 5: and the last photo looked like the Grand Staircase at
Speaker 5: the Pantages.
Speaker 6: Without it, it can fill in all that miss the
Speaker 6: information again.
Speaker 5: All in, it was amazing, and I took screenshots step
Speaker 5: by step that'll be And that's how I demonstrate things
Speaker 5: in my books. By the way, was with screenshots because
Speaker 5: I can tell you where something is, but it might move,
Speaker 5: but if you look at it, you'll know what to
Speaker 5: look for.
Speaker 2: When I buy my next phone or my next pixel Watch.
Speaker 2: I have a Google Pixel eight and a pixel Watch too,
Speaker 2: then unveiled the various versions of Pixel nine and the
Speaker 2: pixel Watch three. I'm always looking for either a material
Speaker 2: upgrade in the design or software, but I'm not looking
Speaker 2: for an incremental upgrade.
Speaker 6: And I got the feeling.
Speaker 2: Tell me if I'm wrong that it was more incremental
Speaker 2: than material for both the pixel Watch in the phone.
Speaker 3: Well, they have the next step in the processor.
Speaker 6: Oh they went to the tens or four three four.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, so that's a big difference.
Speaker 5: And that's to accommodate the AI and Google plans to
Speaker 5: allow you to keep most of it on your phone
Speaker 5: versus sending it to the cloud.
Speaker 6: If we were to believe them.
Speaker 3: But yes, yeah, there's that.
Speaker 6: Because they would never deceive us.
Speaker 5: But you know, I love to measure the data as
Speaker 5: it's going in and out of my phone. You know,
Speaker 5: you can put that on a cap on the side
Speaker 5: and you can take a look and see what kind.
Speaker 3: Of and funny I don't understand the.
Speaker 5: Eight phones that I used while I was writing my
Speaker 5: book and put them down and come up the next
Speaker 5: morning and they were all drained their batteries.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Why I weren't using them.
Speaker 3: I don't know why.
Speaker 5: When we come back, I got some news about Microsoft.
Speaker 5: I think we should drizzle since they're not coming out
Speaker 5: with the Pixel nine and right away will drizzle some
Speaker 5: of the features all right along the way. But I
Speaker 5: got to tell you something. People are getting nervous about
Speaker 5: Windows ten.
Speaker 6: Wait a minute, I have Windows eleven. People still use
Speaker 6: Windows ten.
Speaker 5: Windows ten is the most beloved operating system since Windows seven.
Speaker 3: Get out of here, yep, yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 6: Learn something new.
Speaker 5: A lot of people like it, a lot of people
Speaker 5: are really unhappy about the best by date.
Speaker 2: It's Later with mo Kelly. Marshall Callier joins me in studio.
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Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2: Camfi mo Kelly and Marshall Collier. Rest in peace, Greg
Speaker 2: Ken one of our favorites. Here uh great Ken with
Speaker 2: Great Ken Ben He will be missed. Marshall Callier joins
Speaker 2: me in the studio as we continue our talk about
Speaker 2: all things tech on this Thursday.
Speaker 6: What do you want to pick up?
Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to talk about Microsoft Windows.
Speaker 5: Okay, just in case you know, there are some people
Speaker 5: and there are some legendary editions of Windows.
Speaker 3: I think you were even talking that.
Speaker 5: Some government agency still uses Windows three point one point
Speaker 5: one on something. Yeah, it was Southwest Airlines, okay, Southwest Airlines.
Speaker 5: I was at a NASA facility. No, not sure if
Speaker 5: I'm supposed to be. And I walked by the mainframe
Speaker 5: and my husband will testify Windows two thousand.
Speaker 2: Now I understand Windows two thousand, Windows ninety eight, Windows
Speaker 2: ninety five, big picture. They're one of the more stable
Speaker 2: versions of Microsoft.
Speaker 6: But it's twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5: Well, the thing is these companies, they'll take a version
Speaker 5: and they will add their own spin to it.
Speaker 3: They'll write software and integrate it.
Speaker 5: And actually it's unrecognizable as it originally was. The Only
Speaker 5: thing you'll recognize is when you boot it up, you'll
Speaker 5: see the logo.
Speaker 3: So I cut slack here and there.
Speaker 5: Windows ninety eight was also one that people loved.
Speaker 3: Windows seven. Oh my god, people fought tooth and nail
Speaker 3: not to go to Windows eight. I mean that was.
Speaker 6: What about Vista. Well, this is kitties. I'm kidding, because
Speaker 6: that was a horror story.
Speaker 5: For me, there was nothing I enjoyed. Nothing I enjoyed.
Speaker 5: And you know, I'm not a big company.
Speaker 3: I'm a writer.
Speaker 5: I use all the office tools and things like that,
Speaker 5: but you know, I'm not doing equations, so I don't know.
Speaker 5: But Windows ten has become hugely popular and Microsoft announced
Speaker 5: that October twenty twenty five it will not receive updates anymore.
Speaker 3: Oh the horror.
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 2: Okay, I had an old Windows laptop and it allowed
Speaker 2: me to update to Windows eleven free charge.
Speaker 6: I had to jump a few through a few hoops.
Speaker 2: In a tech logical sense, but I got it done.
Speaker 2: Can't most people do that? If your hardware will accommodate
Speaker 2: Windows eleven.
Speaker 5: Did you go to the website and do the check? Yes,
Speaker 5: and it said your computer will correct. Okay, as long
Speaker 5: as that is the case, yes, it's fine.
Speaker 2: And you're talking about the website which says do you
Speaker 2: have enough ram? You know it'll say canadaccommodate?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 5: It's called the PC health check app and it's at
Speaker 5: support dot Microsoft dot com if anybody wants to check.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 5: My favorite computer is at twenty seven inch HP all
Speaker 5: in one that I use once a week for podcasts.
Speaker 5: And I use it for bookkeeping and that's it, and
Speaker 5: it won't take Windows eleven and it just won't work.
Speaker 3: So what are we going to do?
Speaker 5: What are people going to do when they don't want
Speaker 5: to switch? Well, there was so much hue and cry
Speaker 5: from people who like Windows ten that Microsoft off to sides.
Speaker 5: They're going to do a subscription for security for businesses.
Speaker 6: Oh gosh, everything's a subscription.
Speaker 5: Okay, so to get your security updates, because you know,
Speaker 5: there are two kinds of updates you get on everything.
Speaker 5: There's feature updates and there's security updates, and then there's
Speaker 5: OS updates. Okay, so they just won't be getting any
Speaker 5: updates at all. And really, the most important ones you're
Speaker 5: going to want on your computer or even a phone
Speaker 5: are security updates. So if you're a business, and I
Speaker 5: really really hope you registered your software in your own
Speaker 5: name instead of your business.
Speaker 6: Tell them why. I know where you're going with this,
Speaker 6: and tell them why.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, because it's going to be a whole lot
Speaker 5: more expensive if you're in a business. The pricing starts
Speaker 5: just for security updates at sixty one dollars for the
Speaker 5: first year. But wait, there's more more, double that for
Speaker 5: the second year to one hundred and twenty two dollars
Speaker 5: and double that for the third year for two hundred
Speaker 5: and forty four dollars For businesses, that's a lot of coin.
Speaker 3: That's love and you.
Speaker 6: Might as well just get a new computer.
Speaker 3: That point well, but that's the point. That's what they
Speaker 3: want to get to the AI.
Speaker 5: The new computers start thinking, which is why we were
Speaker 5: talking about the Pixel phone. I recommend everybody runs out
Speaker 5: because the price on the Pixel eight and the Pixel
Speaker 5: eight Pro is going to plummet. And that's a great
Speaker 5: phone and it's not infused with all the AI. I
Speaker 5: have the Pixel eight Pro. You have to ask it
Speaker 5: asks permission before it's going to use it. So if
Speaker 5: you can, I can highly recommend that phone. And if
Speaker 5: you want to wait until things balance out on the AI.
Speaker 2: And that's why I was asking, you know, all we're
Speaker 2: talking about these material grade updates or is it just
Speaker 2: incremental You mentioned the tensorship, but outside of that, we're
Speaker 2: talking more about AI than anything.
Speaker 6: It sounds like.
Speaker 5: Yes, because that's the buzzword. Come on, you've been in marketing.
Speaker 5: You got to have your buzzword, I.
Speaker 2: Know, and people want to feel like they have the
Speaker 2: latest and the best that's in air quotes and the
Speaker 2: latest right now, and the best is considered to be
Speaker 2: AI or at least that's where the industry's trending.
Speaker 5: I mean, I remember when I won't say which phone
Speaker 5: company wanted me to go downtown LA so I could
Speaker 5: test out the new five G because it was so cool.
Speaker 3: As I said, why do I have to go downtown?
Speaker 6: Kind of defeats the purpose of five G?
Speaker 5: Well, because that's where they have it set up. And
Speaker 5: I said, hey, folks who've heard this before, go find
Speaker 5: someone who's young, who's right young and stupid, yeah, stupid yeah,
Speaker 5: And they did.
Speaker 3: You know, she was very excited. You could see her
Speaker 3: blonde hair over the.
Speaker 2: God Marcia Collier said that I didn't say that. That
Speaker 2: was Marcia Collier.
Speaker 5: And my best girlfriend and as a bleach blonde, and
Speaker 5: she's one of the smartest people I know. But anyway,
Speaker 5: back to Windows eleven, they will have pricing for individuals
Speaker 5: who want to have the security updates, but I'm sure
Speaker 5: they're going to incrementally jump like they did there. And
Speaker 5: a funny thing that I read in Washington Post. I
Speaker 5: read their article about it, and one of the things
Speaker 5: they suggested. If you want to keep Windows ten is
Speaker 5: subscribed to a program like I do. My favorite and
Speaker 5: I've mentioned it before, malware bites Mala yep, because Windows
Speaker 5: Defender isn't going to defend anymore.
Speaker 6: Did it ever? Really, I'm being serious.
Speaker 3: Yes it did.
Speaker 2: It used to be crap, okay, okay, because I just
Speaker 2: remember a lot of stuff where it was like a sieve.
Speaker 5: But for about five years here it was doing well.
Speaker 5: You could actually drop like I won't because who knows
Speaker 5: if they'd ever be a sponsor. But a VA software
Speaker 5: that just became too big for its bridges. It infested
Speaker 5: your whole system. You couldn't get it off. Same thing
Speaker 5: with McAfee. Yeah, and McAfee was another one. Do you
Speaker 5: ever try and erase that from a computer?
Speaker 2: It's I can't say, you'll be inappropriate to say, but
Speaker 2: it's like herpees.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is like herpiece. Yeah, it just kept spreading.
Speaker 5: But yeah, they do that with these software. But malware
Speaker 5: bytes I find to be clean. And I knew the
Speaker 5: founder when he started the company, only because I was
Speaker 5: young and stupid and I got a virus on my
Speaker 5: computer and I called him and he was the guy
Speaker 5: that answered.
Speaker 3: He sat on the.
Speaker 5: Phone with me for two and a half hours and
Speaker 5: running me to all these websites with his advanced technology
Speaker 5: coding and stuff, and I learned and we got rid
Speaker 5: of the virus. But from that day, when I knew
Speaker 5: that the guy who started the company would spend that
Speaker 5: much time on the phone with me, I knew there
Speaker 5: was something different. And they're still doing better than ever.
Speaker 5: They have packages for three computers and they have one
Speaker 5: for phones too, So if you've got an older phone
Speaker 5: and you want to keep it even longer, you can
Speaker 5: put malware bytes, which detects trojans. It detects if you
Speaker 5: go to a website that's dangerous. These software are important.
Speaker 2: I love how you make it simple, digestible, relatable and understandable.
Speaker 2: Marshall Collier is always great to have you. And next
Speaker 2: week I'm quite sure we'll get more of the same.
Speaker 3: Uh oh, maybe a little different.
Speaker 6: Okay, I'll see you soon.
Speaker 3: See it soon, Mo.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2: You know about that big super hacking, the latest in
Speaker 2: which got everybody's Social Security number in the world. I'm serious,
Speaker 2: it's about three billion people affected, and it happened back
Speaker 2: in April. We talked about it just a little bit
Speaker 2: last week with Marshall Collier, and there was this lawsuit,
Speaker 2: a class action lawsuit filed in federal court in Fort Lauderdale.
Speaker 2: It said the hacking group known as USDOD stole the
Speaker 2: records from National Public Data, which offers personal information to employers,
Speaker 2: private investigators, and others who do background checks.
Speaker 6: Let me put it in another way.
Speaker 2: If you've ever applied for a job and someone's run
Speaker 2: a background check on you, checked your social Security number,
Speaker 2: checked former employers, that information was made public. And how
Speaker 2: many times have I said just assume your information is
Speaker 2: out there. This is proof positive that your information is
Speaker 2: out there. I was saying that you might as well
Speaker 2: assume and act accordingly. This is just verifying what I've
Speaker 2: always said. And this hacking g USDOD reportedly tried to
Speaker 2: sell the data for three point five million. You just think
Speaker 2: sounds kind of low, but I guess they weren't trying
Speaker 2: to get greedy. But instead of being able to sell it,
Speaker 2: they've posted.
Speaker 6: It for free.
Speaker 2: On an online exchange for stolen personal data. So your
Speaker 2: social Security number, your personal information, which is probably in
Speaker 2: this trove of three billion people, was made available online
Speaker 2: for free. And I've long said the social security number
Speaker 2: is not the thing anymore. It's it's because it's more
Speaker 2: like your medical records, you that type of data, But
Speaker 2: your social Security number is out there some three billion
Speaker 2: records containing personal data from people living in the US,
Speaker 2: Canada and the UK. Several new sites have had access
Speaker 2: to the data and reported that it seems to be legit.
Speaker 2: National Public Data has not responded to to the numerous
Speaker 2: media requests for comment. But you may wonder, and there
Speaker 2: are different ways that you can find out whether your
Speaker 2: social Security number, whether your data, birth address, phone numbers,
Speaker 2: all that identifying information.
Speaker 6: You want to know that it's out there.
Speaker 2: Well, the people at cybersecurity firm pin Tester p E
Speaker 2: n t E s t e ER they've compiled a
Speaker 2: database and made it searchable in seconds, and they sell
Speaker 2: a nineteen dollars monthly service to clean up your online
Speaker 2: footprint of exposed usernames, passwords, addresses, in more. You can
Speaker 2: do that, and you can get mad when they you
Speaker 2: find out that your information is out there, or you
Speaker 2: can just listen to me right now and assume as such,
Speaker 2: and then act accordingly, and then make your next steps
Speaker 2: change your passwords. Obviously, you can't change your social Security number,
Speaker 2: but you can always limit to whom you give that information.
Speaker 2: Like I don't give out my social Security number. The
Speaker 2: only people who have my social Security number. Job can't
Speaker 2: get around that because I want to get paid. Doctor
Speaker 2: has that. That's how they connect the medical records. But
Speaker 2: other than that, I don't give out my social Security number,
Speaker 2: not for utilities, not for anything. And even still it's
Speaker 2: probably out there with this hack. Okay, if I wanted
Speaker 2: to know Mark Ronner's social Security number, I know where
Speaker 2: to get it.
Speaker 6: Now, you know, you don't have.
Speaker 7: To be familiar with the Stanley Milgram Authority figure experiments
Speaker 7: to know that you're constantly asked by people to identify
Speaker 7: yourself by your social Security number.
Speaker 6: Right, you can just say no, no.
Speaker 2: And I didn't learn that, I want to say into
Speaker 2: well into my adulthood. I wish I would have learned
Speaker 2: it earlier, but you know, I grew up in an
Speaker 2: age in which there wasn't an internet. You didn't get
Speaker 2: to learn a lot of these things, and we didn't
Speaker 2: know that the Internet was going to be so heavily
Speaker 2: dependent on social security numbers. Well, allow, I'll to say
Speaker 2: no not you never you yeah, just no. Yeah, if
Speaker 2: you're as not Elmore, you can say no for my
Speaker 2: phone company. I just did it today. I gave them
Speaker 2: my social.
Speaker 6: Oh you'll learn, you'll learn.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you can just say I'm not comfortable getting that information,
Speaker 7: especially not over the phone. And they always have backup
Speaker 7: ways of identifying you. They can ring you back, they
Speaker 7: can give you a number to call. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 7: You can always say no to that. But you Elmer,
Speaker 7: can never say no to us.
Speaker 2: If they have your social security number, the most they
Speaker 2: should they should ask for is the last four digits
Speaker 2: of your social Security number the most. And beyond that,
Speaker 2: I ask you know, is there something else that I
Speaker 2: can give to verify my identity? And you should know
Speaker 2: what type of information they have, be it street address
Speaker 2: or something like that. You're safe word, yeah, right. There's
Speaker 2: usually a password which is connected to it. To a
Speaker 2: lot of these accounts, there are any number of ways
Speaker 2: and a lot of places. When you first sign up
Speaker 2: for them, you can give them like your pet's name,
Speaker 2: the first kind of car you ever had, whatever. They
Speaker 2: do not need your social and it's a it's a
Speaker 2: lie that they keep telling because again there's value in
Speaker 2: that social Security number because they can sell that data, legally,
Speaker 2: sell that data to other agencies, credit bureaus, whatever.
Speaker 7: It's a little bit terrifying, and I honestly at this
Speaker 7: point don't know how much damage somebody can do to
Speaker 7: you if they have just your Social Security number. I
Speaker 7: never give it out unless I absolutely have to, but
Speaker 7: I guess we're all gonna find out now.
Speaker 2: Well, this goes back to also what Marshall carry was
Speaker 2: saying last week as far as credit freezing, so people
Speaker 2: cannot open up accounts in your name or get credit
Speaker 2: in your name. That's what I do. I just freeze
Speaker 2: it so you can't check my credit. You can't go
Speaker 2: have a lender see if I'm a good candidate for
Speaker 2: a loan, because my credit is frozen in that regard,
Speaker 2: and you can't if someone were to get my social
Speaker 2: Security number, they can't just open up a MasterCard account
Speaker 2: or a Visa account using my self security number.
Speaker 7: I have the impression that people have more credit and
Speaker 7: more accounts of things than they really need. So I
Speaker 7: try to pair mine down and I always do purchase ah,
Speaker 7: if I've been used something in a while, it's gone.
Speaker 6: And see, that's the lie that we've been told.
Speaker 2: We've been told that to get credit, you need to
Speaker 2: have credit, and if you have more credit, you are
Speaker 2: more appealing to creditors. Like if you should keep a
Speaker 2: certain amount of balance in your credit card accounts, you
Speaker 2: have to have a long history of credit.
Speaker 6: It's a bunch of bs.
Speaker 7: We have accepted so much grift in the United States
Speaker 7: just in our day to day lives.
Speaker 6: I'll tell you one secret.
Speaker 7: I use one credit card and I pay it off
Speaker 7: every single month. That's what I use for my expenses.
Speaker 7: And it helps your credit to do that.
Speaker 2: A men to that, and it's one of those lessons
Speaker 2: that I wish I would have adhered to in my
Speaker 2: twenties and thirties because there was a credit card I
Speaker 2: paid off recently that I've been paying off for thirty
Speaker 2: years and hadn't even used it. You know, it's just
Speaker 2: you pay off the minimum amount and it just takes
Speaker 2: forever because you're paying like a twenty nine percent interest
Speaker 2: rate APR.
Speaker 6: It's just a psychic weight that it's good to have
Speaker 6: off you. It feels great not to have credit card debt.
Speaker 6: Absolutely absolutely, So take that to heart. Elmer.
Speaker 2: You know, next time that you're asked for your Social
Speaker 2: Security number, I'm pretty damn sure they don't need it.
Speaker 2: Don't give it out willingly. You're not gonna get it now,
Speaker 2: all right? They him pay for it. Think of yourself
Speaker 2: as like a prostitute of sorts.
Speaker 7: Wait a minute, where did that come from?
Speaker 6: It's Later with Moke Kelly. When we come back.
Speaker 2: We want to tell you about how Adam Sandler and
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan have reassessed the career of Will Smith post slap,
Speaker 2: and we'll play for you what they had to say
Speaker 2: about what has happened to Will Smith since then.
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Speaker 2: The night that it happened, I have talked extensively about
Speaker 2: why I could not even believe that the Oscar slap happened.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that it wasn't handled in the moment.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that Will Smith was not arrested on
Speaker 2: the spot, that he could hang around and give his
Speaker 2: Oscar acceptance speech. But I said then that he would
Speaker 2: have to pay for it. For who knows how long.
Speaker 2: And yes, he's in a better place now than he
Speaker 2: was maybe six seven months ago. His name and brand
Speaker 2: are not as toxic as it was then. But it's
Speaker 2: fair to say Will Smith is not back to where
Speaker 2: he was. It should have been that night where he
Speaker 2: would be at the top of his career. The Oscar
Speaker 2: should have led to greater things, but instead it was
Speaker 2: obviously overshadowed by the slap of Chris Rock, and people,
Speaker 2: especially comedians, have been much harder on on Will Smith
Speaker 2: for obvious reasons, defending a brother in their professional community,
Speaker 2: Chris Rock, then other people in entertainment. Will Smith obviously
Speaker 2: has the Bad Boys movie, which has done well, and
Speaker 2: he's come out with some music. He's slid back into,
Speaker 2: generally speaking, good graces with Hollywood. Hasn't gone back to
Speaker 2: the oscars, but generally he's not suffering the same effects
Speaker 2: that he did maybe a.
Speaker 6: Year or two ago.
Speaker 2: But I came across this conversation between Adam Sandler and
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan on Joe Rogan's podcasts, and both of them
Speaker 2: are stand up comedians, come from the world of comedy,
Speaker 2: so they're going to look at it through the lens
Speaker 2: of a comedian and for the most part side with
Speaker 2: Chris Rock. But they were making the combined point that
Speaker 2: Will Smith ruined his career because of the slap. I'm
Speaker 2: not so sure I agree given what we've seen in
Speaker 2: recent months. But listen, despite all the cussing we had
Speaker 2: to bleep out, listen to what they had to say.
Speaker 4: I think that was like the best thing that happened
Speaker 4: to him, because then it became like wild again, like
Speaker 4: his standard was like outrageous, talk about like the.
Speaker 8: Rock of old that that night was like watching the
Speaker 8: super Bowl.
Speaker 6: He was just like what, it's a live event. Holy what.
Speaker 6: He was a badass, and I think he had.
Speaker 8: Some white on and you look cool if you're waiting
Speaker 8: for him to talk about it.
Speaker 3: And yeah, he got to it.
Speaker 6: And he got excited.
Speaker 4: Well, he didn't talk about it for a while on
Speaker 4: the stage, like he would tell people, if you think
Speaker 4: I'm going.
Speaker 6: To talk about it, I'm not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he wanted to be ready and he wanted to
Speaker 4: really think about what he.
Speaker 8: Was going to say, and how that's because of where
Speaker 8: we are in life, where anything you say is on
Speaker 8: the internet the next day, So next I gotta be
Speaker 8: careful and not blow it.
Speaker 4: Also, they would the bits. Yes, people would just tell
Speaker 4: the bits and it wasn't even ready yet.
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, because if you have a life.
Speaker 4: Changing event like getting slapped at the Oscars in his
Speaker 4: most preposterous scenario. Yeah, the whole thing was preposterous. I
Speaker 4: think for him was also a wake up call like, hey,
Speaker 4: these moms don't really care about me.
Speaker 8: In that moment.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, they didn't protect me.
Speaker 4: Nobody stopped it. He went back and sat down, and
Speaker 4: then he got an award afterwards and got a standing ovation.
Speaker 8: What is going on?
Speaker 6: He was weird.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you want you always want to be that
Speaker 4: guy who's hosting the Oscars and who's starring in the
Speaker 4: big movies, and that's what everybody wanted. Everybody wanted to
Speaker 4: be the big movie star. But then you realize, like,
Speaker 4: well these people are you know, like what did you do?
Speaker 6: How did you set this up?
Speaker 4: How come nobody tackled him.
Speaker 1: At the point.
Speaker 6: Weird moment, Oh, it's weird.
Speaker 4: It was like a guy just showing his ass, Like
Speaker 4: you just pulled your pants down, showed the world your ass,
Speaker 4: Like why did you do that?
Speaker 3: He probably doesn't.
Speaker 4: He probably wakes up in the middle of the night
Speaker 4: going why did I do that?
Speaker 8: Whole thing sucks beyond it was almost like a guy
Speaker 8: who doesn't know how normal people act, thinking this is
Speaker 8: what you're supposed to, go smack that guy.
Speaker 7: It became just it just went to a place that
Speaker 7: he couldn't get out of.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and started it.
Speaker 4: And still there he's still there in everybody's mind. When
Speaker 4: you see Will Smith, Oh he slapped Chris Rock, that's like,
Speaker 4: I mean, not I am legend, not Muhammad Ali, not
Speaker 4: insanely good movies. Yeah, that's an incredible actor. Absolutely, It's
Speaker 4: been in so many banger movies. He's a blockbuster movie star.
Speaker 4: And people see him they go, oh, you slapped Chris Rock.
Speaker 6: That sucks.
Speaker 8: Damn it terrible sucks many and uh yeah, it's it
Speaker 8: follows you around.
Speaker 6: It sucks.
Speaker 2: Okay, it sucks. I think that's the takeaway from Adam
Speaker 2: Sandler I think of this. I don't think it ruined
Speaker 2: his career. I think it forever tarnished his legacy. And
Speaker 2: those are two different things. No, he'll never be able
Speaker 2: to separate himself from the slap because nothing like that
Speaker 2: has ever happened in Oscar history, especially on the night
Speaker 2: in which you're winning Best Actor. But clearly his career
Speaker 2: isn't over. It's so you can't say it ruined his
Speaker 2: career because a movie in theaters right now is gross
Speaker 2: more than three hundred million. I think worldwide, so aget
Speaker 2: ruined his career people Will I think people have largely
Speaker 2: forgiven him. I don't agree that he should be let
Speaker 2: off the hook, and if he were sitting in front
Speaker 2: of me, I would say the exact same thing to
Speaker 2: him because he committed assault on Chris Rock, whether Chris
Speaker 2: wanted to call the police or not. But I do
Speaker 2: think Chris received the short end of the stick as
Speaker 2: far as what happened at night, and how people have
Speaker 2: largely given Will Smith a free pass.
Speaker 6: What say you, Mark?
Speaker 7: I think if you do a Google search for Will
Speaker 7: Smith and net worth, you're going to find he's worth
Speaker 7: about three hundred and fifty million dollars. I think he's
Speaker 7: going to be okay no matter what happens, and there
Speaker 7: are certain things that used to be should be taboo
Speaker 7: in our society. I'm okay with him going away after that,
Speaker 7: but society said he didn't have to.
Speaker 2: And you know what, That's why I keep trying to
Speaker 2: remind people there's no such thing as canceled culture.
Speaker 7: Especially not for rich and powerful people. They can do
Speaker 7: more than you and I can do both, and they
Speaker 7: can get away with it scott free.
Speaker 2: So that means I'm neither rich nor powerful because I
Speaker 2: can't do any of that.
Speaker 7: No, No, if you or I were to walk into
Speaker 7: the air mix room and smack Elmer, we wouldn't get
Speaker 7: away with it like Will Smith did. We'd be wrestled
Speaker 7: to the ground, we'd be sued, we'd be sent to jail.
Speaker 6: None of that happened to Will Smith. That wasn't a joke,
Speaker 6: that was a fact. Yeah, that easy on that. There's
Speaker 6: no punchline, there a little hair trigger on there.
Speaker 7: I think we might have to go in there and
Speaker 7: take our chances after all and put it to a test.
Speaker 6: Seriously.
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