WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.799 --> 00:00:10.160 Bill Cunningham, the Great American, as the recovery continues on 2 00:00:10.320 --> 00:00:12.000 this Wednesday Afternoon, Red's Baseball. 3 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:15.279 The Reds looking pregnable. They can't lose right now. 4 00:00:15.279 --> 00:00:17.519 The Giants when they went to San Francisco, the Giants 5 00:00:17.519 --> 00:00:20.000 said the best record in baseball. The Reds are taking 6 00:00:20.039 --> 00:00:21.920 him down almost every night. Today is going to be 7 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:25.719 this afternoon. Pregame coverage starts about two forty five with 8 00:00:25.760 --> 00:00:28.559 me and Seg. Lots of stuff going on. Mount McClain's 9 00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:31.719 on the disabled list. About two years ago. He had 10 00:00:31.760 --> 00:00:33.759 a lat problem. Whatever a lat is. I thought it 11 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:36.840 was like a reindeer somewhere in Estonia. And then after 12 00:00:36.880 --> 00:00:39.159 that he missed about five weeks of the season last year, 13 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:42.119 was out completely. He's kind of like the Nick Sanzel. 14 00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:45.240 He was out completely because he had that shoulder problem. 15 00:00:45.399 --> 00:00:48.439 Now he's out with a hamstring problem. Who knows what's next, 16 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:51.039 But until then we have to get Mount McLain back in. 17 00:00:51.119 --> 00:00:51.719 So much more. 18 00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:54.600 But Brian Hamrick, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Showing. Brian, 19 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:57.280 have you ever had a circumstance in your repertorial career 20 00:00:57.679 --> 00:01:00.759 where you had a lat problem, a shoulder problem, a 21 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:04.000 hamstring problem. He also broke a thumb, supposedly at UCLA, 22 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:06.000 and you couldn't do your job, you couldn't report. 23 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:11.400 Thanks again, mister Cunningham. I have had just about every 24 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:16.680 injury that you can imagine, not all at once usually, 25 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:20.640 but I've had injury on I knew a guy though, 26 00:01:20.840 --> 00:01:24.640 that the only guy I've ever seen in a full 27 00:01:24.879 --> 00:01:28.680 body cast. He was in the Green Beret with my dad. 28 00:01:28.760 --> 00:01:31.159 My dad was in Green Beret for thirty five years, 29 00:01:31.480 --> 00:01:33.400 and they jumped out of airplanes. My dad was a 30 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:37.840 jump master, but this was a weekend, not with the military. 31 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:39.879 This guy comes over my dad and he goes, hey, 32 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:41.359 some of us are going to go skydive, and you 33 00:01:41.359 --> 00:01:43.159 want to go. My dad was building our house at 34 00:01:43.159 --> 00:01:46.359 the time, and they said I can't go tonight. Joe 35 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:49.200 goes with some guys to shoot. It comes open, but 36 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:52.200 it's wrapped up and it would not and it took 37 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:57.359 wouldn't open fully. He goes barreling into a graveyard, hit 38 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:00.599 break every bone in his body. They thought he was 39 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:01.159 gonna die. 40 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:01.599 My dad. 41 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:04.000 They wouldn't let my dad up in there. My dad 42 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:07.040 goes to the hospital, He takes a he takes a 43 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:12.039 doctor's jacket. He finds one, puts it on, grabs a clipboard, 44 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:12.879 and walks. 45 00:02:12.639 --> 00:02:15.199 Into his buddy room, who he believes is dying. 46 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:17.439 Because he's like, they're not going to keep me out 47 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:19.439 of here. He goes in because I'm here to see 48 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:20.039 mister Deames. 49 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:22.479 They all lady man. He goes in and sees. 50 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:25.719 Him go ends up pulling through within a full body 51 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:27.400 cast and live to jump again. 52 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:30.280 So yeah, talk about injury. 53 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:33.840 I think Matt mckinne, we need to get him in 54 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:35.000 bubble wrap or something. 55 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:35.879 I don't know. 56 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:39.000 I mean, he's only twenty five years old. 57 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:39.840 He cast geeze. 58 00:02:40.199 --> 00:02:43.400 Anyway, they're winning without him and they're losing with him. 59 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:45.280 So we'll see what happens. Let's talk about where we 60 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:47.680 are with the flood, then that terrible wreck I think 61 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:49.759 in Boone County. But first of all, talk about the flood. 62 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:53.039 You're traveling thither and fro. I know Tony Benner's out there, 63 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:55.280 He's always checking to see where the flooding is. 64 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:55.599 Today. 65 00:02:55.599 --> 00:02:58.400 So we sit here this Wednesday afternoon. What's happening on 66 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:01.719 Riverside Drive, what's happening in New Richmond, what's happening Indiana? 67 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:04.080 What's happening in Boone County. Give me a full report. 68 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:08.319 Well, the Ohio River is dropping, and you can see 69 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:11.000 it's a noticeable drop, but it is still very high. 70 00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:15.240 I just left Riverside Drive. It is still covering all 71 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:18.599 of Riverside Drive over there. Although it was clear up 72 00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:22.319 in that little park that's there. It is kind of 73 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:25.840 it's made its way out of the park, but it 74 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:27.479 is still covering Riverside Drive. 75 00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:28.159 So it's down. 76 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:33.120 We could see from Newport we saw today, took a 77 00:03:33.159 --> 00:03:36.080 look at the banks. When you go down there, you're 78 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:38.319 going to see a lot of water still there, although 79 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:41.680 it is down some. But there's a lot of things 80 00:03:41.719 --> 00:03:44.240 going on in places that are hit hard. Where you know, 81 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:47.560 downtown it's it's mostly parks and that sort of thing. 82 00:03:47.639 --> 00:03:51.000 But you know, out in New Richmond, for example, there 83 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:53.879 were seventy eight homes that were surrounded with water out there. 84 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:59.960 Homes and businesses still covered Front Street. So they started 85 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:04.199 handing out supplies and yesterday afternoon they got in some 86 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:06.120 supplies to help people clean up. 87 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:07.759 We're churches there. 88 00:04:08.759 --> 00:04:12.039 There's still a lot of places have electricity cut off. 89 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:15.360 I think there were sixty two places they had electricity 90 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:19.480 cut off. They will probably as the water begins to receive, 91 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:24.879 start putting that back on in the next couple of days. 92 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:27.439 But we still have several days even though the water 93 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:30.800 is starting to receive, before people can even get back 94 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:34.759 into their homes. And then that's just when the cleanup 95 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:38.519 can begin, and you know, it takes sometimes weeks get 96 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:39.519 this mess cleaned up. 97 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:42.279 It's a you know, we're known as river City for 98 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:44.920 a reason and river City showing, and of course I 99 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:48.279 love New Richmond to find lions out there. And later on, 100 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:50.319 maybe today you call it with a report on that, 101 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:52.079 but I don't know where you go. It's the way 102 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:54.480 things are, and because of the locks and the dams, 103 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:56.800 things are much better now than they were before. One 104 00:04:56.800 --> 00:04:59.399 thing that's captivated at the tri State is what happened 105 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:02.800 in Boone County with Deputy say, a sixty six year 106 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:05.720 old driver of an SUV took that turn from Beaver 107 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:08.000 Road to Highway forty two right into the path of 108 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:10.959 a dump truck loaded with gravel. Tell the American people 109 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:13.519 what happened there. You've been there. It's a terrible scene. 110 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:16.040 Two people are dead. Give me a full report on that. 111 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:21.800 Yeah, yeah, So this is a really dangerous intersection down there. 112 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:23.439 I've crossed that. 113 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:28.959 Thing hundreds of times both ways. Forty two out there. 114 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:33.920 Forty two turns into two lane, and so it's two lane. 115 00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:37.560 And this intersection with where if you go to Big 116 00:05:37.600 --> 00:05:41.079 Bone State Park down there, it's right there where you 117 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:43.680 make that turn to go down into Big Boat. Well, 118 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:45.120 it's right at the. 119 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:46.279 Bottom of a hill. 120 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:51.000 And then both ways it's sort of a down in 121 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:54.480 the valley. So both ways you've got vehicles that are moving, 122 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:55.759 usually at a. 123 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:57.079 Pretty high rate of speed. 124 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:01.439 And if you've got a car one seventy miles an hour, 125 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:04.319 which is not unusual, and another one going seventy five, 126 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:07.040 you've got you know, basically what one hundred and fifty 127 00:06:07.079 --> 00:06:09.720 mile an hour cars passing each other. And I would 128 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:14.120 say that happens at least all day every day. 129 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:14.319 You know. 130 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:18.720 And so what happened is this woman starts to turn out. 131 00:06:19.120 --> 00:06:21.560 Sounds like he was going on to forty two, and 132 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:24.079 here comes a dump truck. And there's a lot of 133 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:28.199 these big trucks out there, A big dump truck full 134 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:30.879 of gravel. There's gravel pits or sand pits out in 135 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:34.600 that direction. And if he's coming down that hill, even 136 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:38.240 if he was going fifty miles an hour and this 137 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:41.040 person pulls out, there is no way to get that 138 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:41.920 vehicle stopped. 139 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:42.399 It's on a. 140 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:46.720 Downhill slide and there is no way. And there was 141 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:48.839 some video that was posted of it. And it is 142 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:54.800 just a powerful impact of this thing, you know, and unsurprising. 143 00:06:55.160 --> 00:07:00.600 I have covered multiple fatal accidents out there of the years, 144 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:03.480 and it is a very dangerous intersection. 145 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:04.560 Now. 146 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:08.000 I talked to Jesse Brewer this morning. I think maybe 147 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:13.279 he was slooney or earlier. Today he's saying that, you know, 148 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:18.360 these roads in Boone County need to be addressed. There's 149 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:21.639 actually a meeting coming up the twenty second. He's called 150 00:07:21.639 --> 00:07:25.079 the governor, the Secretary of Transportation. He wants them to come. 151 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:28.040 He says, what happened is all these roads, and this 152 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:33.319 is typical, were put in back at a time when 153 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:36.600 the population was about half what it is now, and 154 00:07:37.079 --> 00:07:42.160 so you've got a huge number of people going places 155 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:45.199 faster than they ever have and you got roads that 156 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:48.839 were not designed for that. And so this is a 157 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:51.360 situation and one of the places that needs to be 158 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:56.639 taken care of and needs to be addressed in the future. 159 00:07:57.000 --> 00:07:58.959 So we'll see how that works out. But it's been 160 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:00.519 a problem for a wa time. 161 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:03.879 Well, in Cincinnati they do it by potholes and by 162 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:06.879 speed bumps. They don't fix the potholes that slows everyone down. 163 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:10.560 Speed Bumps are everywhere, especially on Madison Road. They're everywhere. 164 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:13.800 And Boone County was not configured to hold what's happening 165 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:17.000 on these roads. And Tony Benner loves living in Boone County. 166 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:20.040 He loves going to the Boondocks Pub and grub. That's 167 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:21.560 where he likes to leave. He loves to go to 168 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:24.120 Big Bone Park and sit on a picnic table and 169 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:26.360 have a beer. And that's just part of the deal. 170 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:30.680 But somehow there must be a major, incredibly large highway 171 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:33.600 project that takes care of the roads and so called 172 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:36.639 rural communities that were not configured. And you can't have 173 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:39.639 a dump truck filled with gravel. That thing must have 174 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:43.000 weighed twenty thousand pounds. It would take a football fielder 175 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:45.480 longer to stop. Woman pulls out in two of the 176 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:47.879 driver relatives in the car who I want to mention 177 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:51.000 their names. Ninety one year old Eva Mulberry. Eighty nine 178 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:53.600 year old Betty Hilliard died. I would imagine at the 179 00:08:53.679 --> 00:08:57.399 scene and then these vehicles found themselves inside the restaurant. 180 00:08:57.480 --> 00:09:01.759 Explain that, well, I think once that caught that that 181 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:08.039 massive truck had all that weight, all that inertia moving forward, it. 182 00:09:08.120 --> 00:09:11.480 Just scoops them up like a snowplow and just pushes them, 183 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:15.120 you know, ahead. So fortunately nobody in the restaurant. I 184 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:17.919 have been in that Boondog's restaurant a number of times, 185 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:20.559 and and sometimes it is packed. 186 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:23.279 That time of day on a weeknight, it was not. 187 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:26.440 If it would have gone in there when there were 188 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:31.039 people in there, you would have had multiple casualties inside 189 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:32.279 that restaurant as well. 190 00:09:32.360 --> 00:09:34.879 So U it's just very fortunate that. 191 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:37.639 You know, there was nobody sitting where that you know, 192 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:40.799 those vehicles came inside the restaurant because it just went 193 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:43.600 all the way through the side of that you know 194 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:45.240 wall that was facing forty two. 195 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:48.720 Well, I guess charges must be filed against someone. I 196 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:51.279 guess the only one dead or the are the women 197 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:53.840 in the in the es They were in the suv 198 00:09:53.960 --> 00:09:55.080 correct when it pulled. 199 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:59.080 Out, I believe so. And I didn't get a chance 200 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:00.720 to see, how know, if. 201 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:03.559 They sighted the woman for getting out, I don't know. 202 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:06.679 You know, the the truck driver would have had to 203 00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:08.960 ride away. It's not a it's not a four way 204 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:10.000 off there, you know. 205 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:14.240 So you know, whether somebody gets sighted or not, I'm 206 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:18.879 not sure, but it's it's just I mean, you would 207 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:21.080 have to get out and then gun it to get 208 00:10:21.080 --> 00:10:23.639 out of the way, you know, And I'm just maybe 209 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:26.919 they just didn't see the vehicle or how it happened. 210 00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:29.399 But like I said, I can tell you this. I 211 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:31.480 get out that way. The roads are vson out that 212 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:33.639 way on the bikes, and people seem to be pretty 213 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:37.080 amenable out there. They see you, they're used to, you know, 214 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:39.600 having bikes out in that area. You go out toward 215 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:42.519 Rabbit Hash out there, and you know, the roads are 216 00:10:42.559 --> 00:10:45.080 great and like I said, people some people seem to 217 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:47.840 get along pretty good out there. But when you cross 218 00:10:47.919 --> 00:10:50.600 that road right there, man, it is it is difficult. 219 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:54.559 And we make that crossing pretty frequently. So you've got 220 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:58.279 to really be aware and not only look, but listen 221 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:01.200 for the vehicles when you get there, and you know 222 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:05.480 somebody's talking or not paying attention or just not as aware, 223 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:08.720 maybe looked up and didn't see it. On a gray 224 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:12.399 day with a truck that's buried in the trees up there, 225 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:14.200 you know, just may not have seen it. 226 00:11:14.519 --> 00:11:16.559 Yeah, we'll see what comes of that now. 227 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:19.840 Thirdly, yesterday I had on the great Rob Broun of 228 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:22.279 Channel twelve talking about the reason he got out of 229 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:25.679 the business was it changed fundamentally. And I know we're 230 00:11:25.799 --> 00:11:28.799 changing fundamentally here in radio because we bought all of 231 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:31.519 our competitors. We have more listeners now than we've ever had. 232 00:11:32.120 --> 00:11:34.399 And that's good and bad in the sense because we've 233 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:36.919 created the monster that we have to respond to what 234 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:40.559 listeners and your case viewers want. You have more institutional 235 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:43.519 memory than anyone between you and John London, Karen Johnson 236 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:45.879 about the best there is. And he talked about he 237 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:48.360 got out because the changes were such he just didn't 238 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:53.440 want to continue. And just reminisce about the institutional memory 239 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:56.159 that you have and the personality that you have that 240 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:59.200 cannot be replaced. And I think Bob Bron and Rob 241 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:01.559 Bron and what he did for you know, thirty almost 242 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:04.559 forty years cannot be replaced. What do you see on 243 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:07.360 the on the ground as you travel the highways and byways. 244 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:10.360 No one has more institutional memory or more of a 245 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:13.600 personality than Brian Hamry. As far as reporting the news, 246 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:15.759 do you see your job going away like so many 247 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:16.360 others or not? 248 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:20.840 You know, I've tried to look into the crystal ball 249 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:25.039 into the future. I'm not sure, you know, as long 250 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:28.159 as people want to know what is happening in their 251 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:33.360 in their neighborhoods, and you know, you can only be 252 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:36.039 covered so well with social media. They get there's a 253 00:12:36.039 --> 00:12:39.000 lot of people put things on social media. It will 254 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:44.000 be difficult for social media to replace, you know, like 255 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:47.720 television news. But we've also got you know, people talk about, 256 00:12:47.799 --> 00:12:48.039 you know. 257 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:50.039 Well maybe that's going to go away, but. 258 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:52.679 We've also they said that about radio, but he said, 259 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:57.639 you got more listeners than you've ever had. I don't 260 00:12:57.679 --> 00:13:00.840 see it going away, but it may change, uh. I mean, 261 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:03.200 you know, we also have the whole digital side. I 262 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:06.639 just got done shooting a little piece for digital with 263 00:13:06.840 --> 00:13:10.159 before and after shots of you know, the water and 264 00:13:10.200 --> 00:13:12.919 where it is, you know, so we'll do things like that. 265 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:15.759 The pace has ramped up, you know. 266 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:17.240 When I started back. 267 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:20.600 In you know, like nineteen eighty seven, we had one 268 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:25.519 newscast and it was six o'clock and almost no live shots, 269 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:29.320 you know, and so it went from that and then 270 00:13:29.399 --> 00:13:34.919 suddenly we had expanded morning shows and then we got 271 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:39.759 a four. Let's see, we went to five, five thirty 272 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:43.279 and six first, and then you know, recently we went 273 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:46.039 to four, four thirty, five, five thirty six. 274 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:49.279 Three o'clock, got two o'clock, gotten at eleven. 275 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:52.879 We've got expanded morning shows, we got the noon and 276 00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:56.960 so trying to keep that up. And you know, there 277 00:13:57.080 --> 00:13:59.200 there have been a lot of talk about, well, these 278 00:13:59.279 --> 00:14:01.240 ratings are drop up their half or what they were, 279 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:04.559 but we got so many more shows. People are just 280 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:06.919 able to tune in when they want. So, you know, 281 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:09.840 I'm not sure. I've never looked at how it looks, 282 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:10.759 but I do know this. 283 00:14:10.840 --> 00:14:11.399 We had. 284 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:16.080 The head of Hurst came and spoke to us here 285 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:19.919 a couple of years ago. At the station Hurst ownership. 286 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:24.360 They owned more than thirty TV stations around the country, 287 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:28.720 and and Hurst is I think pretty well known. I 288 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:32.080 don't think i'd be exaggerating to say it is the 289 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:37.200 best ownership, you know, as far as your large ownerships go. 290 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:39.399 I really think there are a lot of people believe 291 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:44.720 it's probably the the best for working conditions among the 292 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:49.080 TV news reporters in local markets and he said. One 293 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:51.960 of the things that they notice that when people come 294 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:56.879 by and they start talking about a cable and satellite 295 00:14:56.919 --> 00:15:00.120 and all these things, one of the three things right 296 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:04.840 up there with like they want their esp and sports. 297 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:03.879 Uh. 298 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:10.879 Top three in every single market and every single request 299 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:14.639 is local news. There is a demand for it. Peop 300 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:18.200 will expect to see it so uh. But it has changed. 301 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:23.000 Its changed unbelievably over the years. And people will always 302 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:24.960 ask me, you know, they say, well, do you still 303 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:28.639 enjoy doing I enjoy doing it. It's great, say sometimes 304 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:30.919 though it's too much of a good thing, you know, 305 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:34.799 It's just just there's just a lot of it. And 306 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:36.840 and I got a certain way I like to tell 307 00:15:36.879 --> 00:15:39.200 a story. I like to write it in a way 308 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:41.840 that's a little different. I like to try and to me, 309 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:46.799 TV news is still telling people's stories. It's it's not 310 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:49.759 so much about the facts and the figures. If those 311 00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:53.080 don't line up on anything. It's like the water rises 312 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:56.200 in the woods. Who cares a tornado hits out in 313 00:15:56.279 --> 00:15:58.679 the wilderness, and a knockdown big tree. 314 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:00.519 It doesn't affect anybody. 315 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:05.080 It's only when these events affect people. And that's what 316 00:16:05.399 --> 00:16:08.399 you know. If you see my story, you'll see, you know, 317 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:09.440 somebody else. 318 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:11.200 Or the newspaper will have way. 319 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:14.240 More fact than figures. But what I try and bring, 320 00:16:14.279 --> 00:16:17.480 and what I believe TV does the best, is bring 321 00:16:17.600 --> 00:16:18.679 the emotion and. 322 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:20.240 The people and all that. 323 00:16:20.840 --> 00:16:23.360 When I was getting my masters at the University of Oklahoma, 324 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:26.200 it was almost all newspaper people in there with me, 325 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:29.120 and they were always, you know, kind of giving TV. 326 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:29.600 A hard time. 327 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:33.480 We can put more information on the front half of 328 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:37.000 the newspaper, then you can put in the entire newscast there. 329 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:39.360 And I sat and listened to them for about two weeks. 330 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:42.480 I didn't know anybody, and finally I sat up. I said, yeah, 331 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:45.759 let me just tell you something. I said, what you 332 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:48.639 do is very important and what we do is important, 333 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:51.799 but it's two different things. And I said, let me 334 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:56.360 just give you an example. You have had since time began, 335 00:16:56.600 --> 00:17:00.679 since the written word began to tell people about war 336 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:04.440 and the horrors of war. But and you did over 337 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:08.119 the years, but there was still this attitude, We're gonna 338 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:11.480 go for the glory and run. Not until the TV 339 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:15.400 cameras went in during Vietnam and showed people what war 340 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:18.920 was really like, did they understand. 341 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:20.880 What what actually happened in war. 342 00:17:20.960 --> 00:17:23.319 And I said, you had your cans and you. 343 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:24.839 Blew it and you didn't do it. 344 00:17:24.839 --> 00:17:27.720 I said, until we got there you could see these guys. 345 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:31.279 I remember vivid images of soldiers who had been hit 346 00:17:31.480 --> 00:17:36.160 like with Foxphorus, and they're laying on tables, shaking uncontrollably 347 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:38.640 as the doctors are working on them. And these guys 348 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:41.160 in the bushes and the you know, the being hit 349 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:44.000 and being treated in the jungle, and it's I mean, 350 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:48.480 you're like nobody, nobody wants there's no glory in that. 351 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:52.319 You know, it is this is this is a you know, 352 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:56.000 it is a tragedy to see people injured and killed, 353 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:59.920 in young people dying this way. It brought a whole 354 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:02.599 new perspective on what war really was. 355 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:03.680 And that's the. 356 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:06.880 Difference between I think newspaper and TELL. I never had 357 00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:07.960 the argument with them again. 358 00:18:08.039 --> 00:18:08.720 They never brought it. 359 00:18:09.319 --> 00:18:12.599 Well, Brian Hamrick, you're the best that you have institutional memory, 360 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:15.559 you have the personality and I often say the tough 361 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:18.240 times don't last, but tough men and women do. Keep 362 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:20.440 doing what you're doing. I'll keep doing what I'm doing. 363 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:22.359 As long as people want to communicate, will be in 364 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:24.880 great shape. Got to run up against the clock. Brian 365 00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:27.440 Hamrick of the Power five, once again, thank you for 366 00:18:27.480 --> 00:18:28.920 coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. 367 00:18:28.920 --> 00:18:32.519 Thank you, Brian, Thanks again, mister Cunningham. 368 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:35.160 And God bless America. I love that sign off always. 369 00:18:35.240 --> 00:18:37.759 Reds Baseball kicks off about two forty five today, it's 370 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:41.039 your home of the Reds. They're unbelievable. They win, win, 371 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:45.720 and win some more on News Radio seven hundred WLW. 372 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:52.519 All right, David Keaton hit the music. 373 00:18:53.680 --> 00:18:55.559 The Reds are on a bit of a roll right now. 374 00:18:55.599 --> 00:18:58.440 In fact, the Giants have lost a total of three 375 00:18:58.519 --> 00:19:02.039 games this year, and all three are at the hands 376 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:04.440 of the Reds, and they're not scoring at all. But 377 00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:07.559 the pitching staff is among the best in baseball and 378 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:09.680 help is on the way. But help is not needed 379 00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:12.319 with the pitching staff. Help is needed when it comes 380 00:19:12.319 --> 00:19:15.319 to hitting the baseball. Historically, the Reds could always hit. 381 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:18.119 They couldn't pitch. Now they're pitching and it can't hit. 382 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:20.359 But when you win one to nothing, two to nothing, 383 00:19:20.400 --> 00:19:23.160 that's not bad. We'll see what happens today. Our coverage 384 00:19:23.160 --> 00:19:25.759 begins about two forty five. The Reds a bit of 385 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:28.880 a roll. They sweep the Giants back home for the Pirates. 386 00:19:28.920 --> 00:19:31.039 See what happens this weekend, take a little time off 387 00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:34.200 on Thursday. Get it together. Mount mclan's got to get healthy. 388 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:38.160 He's becoming like the Nick Sanzel of the Reds and 389 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:40.880 the Kids. Twenty five years old. You should be in 390 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:42.960 your prime when it comes to health. Would you agree 391 00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:45.279 when you were twenty five years old, how much time 392 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:47.799 did you take off for a latch strain or a 393 00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:51.319 bad shoulder or a bad hamstring? At UCLA had a 394 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:54.160 thumb problem or a finger problem. And I don't know 395 00:19:54.160 --> 00:19:56.559 what to say. And maybe it's just one of those 396 00:19:56.599 --> 00:19:59.240 things that he is injury prone and nothing we can 397 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:01.039 do to help. And that's the case. The Reds have 398 00:20:01.119 --> 00:20:04.559 to readjust and see what happens. In fact, the first 399 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:06.880 time he was able to come up from the miners, 400 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:09.160 he might recall the last five weeks of the season 401 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:11.000