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play at the Griffin City Golf Course. This is Golf

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Smarter number nine hundred and eighty six. What did Ben

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Hogan say about the more I practice, the luckier? Again,

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Paradoxers like drive for a show and puts for it

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don't really help people, right because they suggests that he

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the guy who has a long t shot may not

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be better than the guy who can quote unquote well,

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but with Mark Brodie's well, we realize that the guy

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who can hit the longest and have an unimpeded subsequent

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shot would score better than the guy who's shot and crooked,

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for example, or who's shot but in the fairway, simply

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because if I'm using a sandwich into the green, the

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chances of me getting closer to the flat would be

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higher than you who's using a six or five iron.

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the more lost you have, more back spin, less sight spin,

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easier for you to send the ball where you're aiming.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I teach that I've learned from listening to

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Golf Smarter with Singapore instructor Justin ten This is Golf Smarter,

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sharing stories, tips and insights from great golf minds to

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help you lower your score and raise your golf IQ.

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Here's your host, Fred Green. Welcome back to the Golf

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Smarter podcast Justin.

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Speaker 1: Hey Fret, thanks for having me back.

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Speaker 2: On Absolutely you sent me a text recently and I'm like, Okay,

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no question, we need to discuss this. This is really

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awesome and it's like, here's what you said to me.

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With twenty years of coaching and learning from great coaches

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before me, I hammered out the below to to tell

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a PGA professional who asked you for mentorship and thought

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i'd share it with you as a lot of these

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things I learned from your podcast. Now, you and I

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have talked about what you gathered from Tony Manzoni in

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the years that we had him on, and that you've

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also shared with me that as a golf instructor in Singapore,

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you've been using Golf Smarter as a resource to learn

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what other teachers are talking about. And I'm so flattered

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by that. I really appreciate it, and I've heard other

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instructors say the same thing. So when you gave me

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this list of nine things and we'll go through all

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of them. I was just blown away of how impressive

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this was that you would use this and that you

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got this information from the teachers that we have on

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the show. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: No, it's my pleasure to be able to share the

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material that I learned. And it's really about increasing enjoyment

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in the game, right. If you're talking about growing the game,

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who wants to play a game that's painful? So you

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look at the word g o lf in reverse, it's flog.

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No one wants to flog themselves. And I think, and

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easier for people to gain some kind of mastery of

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the golf swing so that they can enjoy the game.

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I think these are two very different things. If you

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manage to hit decent enough shots for your skill level,

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the enjoyment of the game will come, maybe slowly, but surely.

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is no different from learning a new habit. And for

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someone to learn the game the swing effectively, we need

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to understand that we are teaching human beings that's point one.

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that I learned from. But Charmond and I understan what

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first do sect finding. You've got to be a great

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fact finder. You've got to understand what's the student's KPI,

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not your KPI. Most instructors feel that their KPI is

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all going to show the student in front of me

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how brilliant I am.

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golf swing technique golf swing technology, but actually maybe all

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you should play college golf. Hey, maybe all he wants

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enjoy some fresh air, beat balls with his buddies, and

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do their proper fact fine, then it's easier to kind

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a new PGA professional asked you for mentorship, and so

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four gigabytes SSD samsum T seven. I'm fond of telling

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them that this hard drive is probably worth something like

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in that region. So he said that, hey, do you

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even longer to put them together. I believe we spoke

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about my performance Pentagon before. It's not just a full

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swing technique. It's also skill development. Then it's also how

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reproduces it under pressure. So it's it's not just that,

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you can't have it, but like, what what can I

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should share this with Fred and my other mentors who

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of instructors to citing our technical knowledge of coaching.

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it's so true, and you've just supported it, that golf

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want to help people improve. And for great coaches that

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version of themselves, and not just that, right, they also

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want their students to be a better version of themselves.

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understand manner. And that brings me to the second point

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All right, I'm gonna just go ahead and read this

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number two on your list. Is communication is the most

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important skill in transmitting ideas, yet gets the least attention.

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to your students, I don't think that's quite as popular. However,

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skill that is more often than not neglected. I think

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any previous sports they play that we can relate to.

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relative approach and an absolute approach. What does that mean,

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five degrees. Now are they able to do that? Absolutely,

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they're not going to have a string path that's inside

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they might feel that way. And it's your job as

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the instructor to say, hey, I'm trying to get you

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to exaggerate so that your extreme into our path will

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cancel out your extreme out to inpath. That's basically the

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approach that the great John Jacobs too. And once you

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exactly what's happening, learning can be accelerated very, very dramatically.

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Speaker 2: Well, the way i'd like to look at number two,

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PGA professional, and these are tips for PGA professionals with

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their instructor. That communication is the most important skill in

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transmitting ideas. It gets the least attention. So for a student,

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if they feel like the instructor they're working with isn't

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communicating on a level that they understand, maybe they should.

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It's okay, leave a teacher, right, I mean, you're not

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committed to this person, you know by marriage.

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to communicate complicated ideas in a manner that a seven

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most students don't really want to know things like ground

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reaction forces. Again goes back to the point number one,

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what's their key performance indicator. They're not there to learn

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how to be a golf coach. They're not there to

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be certified in ground reaction forces. That's the instructor's job,

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of them, is to make what my mentor, Jim Hardy said,

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make the next ball better. That's that's our job. That's

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how we imagine. But I don't think students are going

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to give me five stars because like, wow, Justin knows

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everything every new ones there can be in in the

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golf grip. But you help him hit his next shot better.

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That's all he cares about, and that's what he will

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gonna go, oh, that's something we talk about on the show. Well,

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this is your list is based on what we talk

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about on the show.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And then, and I say this a lot, is that

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you know, hitting a golf ball is not the same

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as playing golf. And the way you write it here

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is there's the golf swing and there's the game of golf.

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Great instructors know when to teach which one. Yeah, excellent point.

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Speaker 1: So the golf swing makes a golf shot, and you're

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making enough golf shots, that's the game of golf. So

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maybe for beginners it's really about the golf shot, the

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golf swing, so you work on things like that. But

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for a good player, I'm talking about guys with five

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handicaps and below, is it really the golf shot or

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are there other parts of his golf game that needs addressing, Strategy,

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maybe fitness, Maybe it's this mental approach. So earlier we

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talked about surfing, there's the surfer, there's the surf board,

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and there's the waves. So what's outside of our control

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would be the waves. And sometimes good golfers need to understand, Hey,

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you know, my technique is of a sufficiently proficient level,

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got decent equipment that's fitted to me. But hey, if

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we're talking about a thirty mile gale win, then is

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this really a day for shooting sixty six? Well, if

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you could, or credit to you, right, But sometimes it's

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expectations and the outcome. And once you understand that, then

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you know, I suppose there is more acceptance and it

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won't be so hard on yourself. You probably enjoy the

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game more and that ironically could lead to a better score.

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And as an instructor, again all goes back to point

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number one. What does the human being in front of

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you want. Some guys just are interested in having a

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pretty string. That's fine, we can do that. Some people

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are interested in the golf score, that's fine, we can

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work on that. Whatever you want, what's your kpi? We

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will work together to achieve that. There is no right

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or wrong. It's what the guy in front of you

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paying for the lesson once but Keviat sometimes you got

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to set expectations right. You've got to make sure that

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his demands are realistic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a show that we recently did about

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the teacher who uses the bell chart, the bell curve

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of PGA that every golfer has on their scorecard, and

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that is poor rounds, good rounds, average rounds right PGA.

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And so you can you know, if you're a seventy shooter,

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you can say to yourself, well, listen, I shot a

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seventy nine today or an eighty one. Okay, that's a

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poor round for me. I would love to be in

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that position. For me, that would be a good round.

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But for me eighty two eighty five, that's an average round, right,

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eighty or just below that, and I'd be happy that.

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But we have to accept that, we have to understand

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that it happens on any day you're out there to

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every golfer at every level.

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Speaker 1: Some days you get a good waste and some days

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mediocre ifts. And golf is such a great metaphor for life,

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for we have great days, we have not so good days,

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and some days is outright bad.

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Speaker 2: Oh, justin I'm having so much fun with this. Thank you.

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Let's move on to number four of this list of yours,

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and that is the game of golf must be taught

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using a data driven approach. I'd like some explanation on

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that one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the buzzword right now, right with artificial intelligence,

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but it's it's basically making. It's going back again to

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point one, that finding. So you've got the guy's KPI,

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But is your diagnosis of his swing law accurate or not?

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Like people talk of all your stings outside in okay,

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for a twenty four handicap, but you don't really need

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camera to see that. You can tell from his movement pattern.

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You can tell from the big old slice or the

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pull he's hitten. But what about for a zero handicap

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a scratch player, do you really know whether it's in

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three degrees into out or is it six? And the

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face to path is it three one point five? We

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don't know until you put him in front of track

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man of some Rada device. So things like that you

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want to be making. You want to make sure that

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as an instructor, you're truly working on cause and effect

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and not spurious correlation. And if your instructor is just guessing,

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then maybe the solution that has come up coming up

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with is just guess work, and one day it works

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because of luck, next day it doesn't work. As an instructor,

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you want to be effective, meaning to say that everything

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you work on produces a correct result. Again, I quote

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Jim Hardy. It says that if the next ball is

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not better, then either the student is not doing it

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correctly or you gave the wrong diagnosis. The only way

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to ensure a correct diagnosis is to make sure you've

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got the tools to provide the facts. Why guess when

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you can measure when you go to a physician. Imagine

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the physicians say, oh, let me guess what you have.

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Nobody would stay in that triage if the physician says,

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I'm going to guess what's the cause of your problem?

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But instead, physicians have a defined list, They have instruments

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they can use to verify your condition. And it must

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be the same when it comes to golf instruction. And

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that brings me to the next part of the golf swing.

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The golf swing it nive number five. The golf swing

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is not a beauty contest. Just look at Jim Fury.

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Let me give you. Let me give you some statistics.

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Jim shot fifty eight and fifty nine into separate PGA

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Tour events. He has career earnings of seventy one and

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a half million dollars. Let's take that in. Let us

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just pause and dig that in. I know of a

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lot of professional golfers who would want to do that,

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who would want to achieve that. So your swing system,

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as a coach, it's got to be robust enough to

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explain why esthetically displeasing swings can produce a concert in ballfler.

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It may not look the way you want it to look,

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it may not look to your definition of beauty, but

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we still need to understand why that works. So we're

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talking about having a robust string system. So it's not

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just about looking at the golf swing from a certain perspective.

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You need to be able to understand all the different

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systems out there so that your swing system can explain anomally.

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Actually it's not really an anomaly. If a swing can

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produce consistently low scores, it behooves the instructor understand why

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it works. And if you don't understand why, it's because

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your string system and you're understand standing is lacking. It's

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not complete. And the great instructors that I know, like

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Butch Harmon, Thought Harmon, Peek Cowen, they don't. When you

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look at all of their students, all of their swings

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look sally different. You can't you can't shoebox them and say, hey,

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that's Butch Harmon's guy. Those are those guys are Peak

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Cowvin's guy. Because what every human is built differently proportionally. Sure,

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we have we have generally we have one hit, we

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have two arms, we've got two legs, but the proportions

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of them in relation to one another differs. And because

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they differ, by design, all the swings should look different.

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Speaker 2: And that's another very important point for golfers to understand

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that the golf swing is not a beauty contest that

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you don't have have to try to swing like fill

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in the blank here, Adam. Your body has your own

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yeah right, your your body has its own limitations. You

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may not work that hard at your body, you know,

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to be a have a golfer's body, and you may

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but don't have expectations of what it's supposed to look like.

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And you know, like every for the years that I've

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been pretty much in my whole life recording people or

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even taking photographs. There's so many people go, I hate

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the way I sound I when I hear a recording

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of myself. Well that's what you sound like. Well that's

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what your golf swing looks like. I hate my photo.

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I hate the way I look in this picture. That's

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because that's what you look like. I'm sorry, And that's

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what your golf swing looks like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you know, at some level, I think we

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should celebrate our differences rather than I would be something

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that we are really not. You know, if golf, if

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the golf sing is the be all and end all

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of the game of golf, then Adam Scott should have

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a career that's close to Tiger Woods. What because I

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think when he came out his golf swing looked almost

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like a replica of Tiger Woods sing. But we know

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that his career his great career, but it's never mentioned

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at the same in the same conversation as Tiger Woods.

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So the game of golf is more than just the

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golf swing. We need to remember that.

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Speaker 2: So what separates those two guys?

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Speaker 1: What from your perspective, Obviously it's a mental approach to

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the game of golf, Like, that's something that's very intangible, right,

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we don't know how they think, especially under pressure. That

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is something that you can't really see when you're looking

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at a telecast. I mean, what's the stories that's going

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through in their hits. We don't know, and no one's

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going to let you into their mental space. But all

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we can see is golf enteredy Like, oh, his off

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plane on plane, it's got ten planes. I don't know.

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It's difficult, right, And the commentators on the broadcast certainly

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don't help me, and they say, oh, he came over

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the top, Like goes back to fact finding, like, really,

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do we really know for sure that he came over

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the top, because I'm fond of saying this, right, what

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does how many degrees? There's one minute on the watch

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phase represent it's six degrees. Can you really tell what's

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six degrees with your naked eye? It's really really difficult,

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And six degrees can make or break your golf shot.

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Is the difference. It can be the difference between a

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push draw or a.

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Speaker 2: Hook from your perspective. Watching his career go by, Tiger

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has made many swing changes when he comes out again

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and says, Okay, I'm going to start playing now. But

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I've made these swing changes. I'm doing this. Do you

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see the difference? Do you see that there is a

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big change.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there is a big change. And when you talk

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about successful swing changes, I think it. Throughout the history

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of golf, probably only two guys have made swing changes

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successfully and come out on the other side better. The

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first one was Nick Foudo with his book with David Letbetter,

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and the second one would be Tiger Woods. But if

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you look through the history of quote unquote swing changes,

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they are not going to find many successful examples. So

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it's almost like this, right, Imagine I'm a missionin star chef.

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I's got this great recipe for cheesecake. Call it, and

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then suddenly I tell your friend I want to improve

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the recipe. I'm going to revamp the whole thing. Does

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it make sense? You'd be going like, justin, You've got

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the winning formula for cheesecake. Look at the lines outside

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your shot. Now you want to change the recipe. You could.

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I could come up with a better recipe, but what

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is the probability of that? That's a very high bar decline.

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So instead of just looking at a better golf game

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as Okay, if I improve my swing, I'm going to

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shoot lower scores, take a more holistic view, and I

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clean up my diet. What skills am I lacking? For example,

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around the green strategically? Am I making mistakes that cost

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me in the long run?

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go with number six of nine,

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and then I love this one. The scorecard only records scores,

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not swing technique. And it follows up to what we

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were just talking about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. At the end of the day, when you

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meet your buddies at the clubhouse after your run and

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when we go how did you play? We are only

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interested in all I shot two under paw ten over par.

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That's all we care about.

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Speaker 2: He's not.

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Speaker 1: No one's going to hang around and say, oh, you know,

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oh you used that left sided swing today. How was

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it all today? I use the center swing today? Or

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last week I used the right sided string didn't work

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so well? Oh I switched coaches. No one's interested in that.

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All we care about is, hey, Fred, you shot two

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underpart you beat me by two holes. Here's your money.

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That's all we care about. And on Twitter it's the

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same thing. No one really, there is no column for

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oh okay, just then use the swing technique today. He

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should he should have a score of six underpart doesn't

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work that way, and it again goes back to what

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are we trying to do. If your aim is to

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have lower scores, then you've got to do proper fact finding.

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Where am I losing scores? But if your aim is

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playing golf swing, then you know we will help you

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beautify your swing. But that the caveat is that may

476
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not lead to lower scores.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. I kind of threw someone back recently.

478
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I was playing with them, and I've played with this

479
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person many many times. But one time I hit the

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ball and he said, oh, that was a great swing.

481
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And I got him off guard because I said, you know,

482
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you've seen my swing a lot. What was different about that?

483
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Why are you now saying that was a great swing?

484
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Speaker 1: What did I do?

485
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Speaker 2: But please tell me? He had nothing to say. He

486
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was like, I just nice and fluid there. Okay, great,

487
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But you know, but when someone says that to you,

488
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ask them why. Maybe you're gonna learn something. Maybe you're

489
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gonna learn.

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Speaker 1: Something rather than a quick, jerky, unsynchronized sing. But great

491
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golf shots. That's the opposite. I guess it's also a maturity.

492
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Sure that when I started teaching golf gosh way banging

493
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two thousand and five, I'm like, you know what if

494
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every one of my students sung the same way flat

495
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letters I love golfing machine like I would have, I

496
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would be a happy coach. But being is on, I

497
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realized that that's just one part of effective coaching.

498
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Speaker 2: And it brings us to number seven, which is interesting

499
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because you you advise this teacher to tell his students

500
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beware of false sayings like drive for show and put

501
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for dough. Yeah, and the list goes on and on

502
00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:43,599
and on about things like that. My my ley'st favorite

503
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is I'd rather be lucky than good. Not me, I'd

504
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rather be good and have occasional luck. Thank you.

505
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Speaker 1: What would it Ben Hogan say about the hotter the

506
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more I practice, the luckier again? Yeah?

507
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Paradoxas like drive for show and put for don't don't

509
00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:03,400
really help people because it suggests that, hey, the guy

510
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who can hit a long who has a long t

511
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shot may not be better than the guy who can

512
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quote unquote well. But with Mark Brodie's well, we realize

513
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that the guy who can hit the longest and have

514
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an unimpeded subsequent shot would score better than the guy

515
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who's start and crooked, for example, or who's stopt but

516
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in the fair way, because simply because if I'm using

517
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a sandwich into the green, the chances of me getting

518
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,840
closer to the flag would be higher than you who's

519
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using a six or five iron. And that's just just

520
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just the basic principles of a ball flight. Because the

521
00:35:53,079 --> 00:35:57,039
more loft you have, more backspin, less sight spin, easier

522
00:35:57,079 --> 00:36:02,079
for you to send the ball where you're aiming. So

523
00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:06,000
we could be really careful with paradoxes like that. Another

524
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:08,719
one is all drive the hips for power. Now, the

525
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,039
technology that we have these days, it's like, yeah, you

526
00:36:12,119 --> 00:36:16,719
know what hip rotation speeds on the LPGA Tour, it's

527
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:22,840
higher than the PGA Tour one or simply because the

528
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,679
men have stronger upper body, and that's really where steel

529
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,400
is generated from. Case in point, I've played with the

530
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military vets who've lost one or two legs, but you know,

531
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you strap them onto a special golf cart. These guys

532
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,880
can still hit the ball, get the ball out there

533
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:49,679
a decently long way. It's arm speed isn't it. But again,

534
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,199
you don't want the yeah. You don't want to just

535
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say or just have strong arms. Sorry. Ideally, again we

536
00:36:56,159 --> 00:36:58,079
look at the golfing. It's not black and white. It's

537
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:02,239
always sifty shades of gray. It's more I call taking

538
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,639
a neutral, balanced approach. The game of a decent girls

539
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,639
wing is not too much arms and not too much body.

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It's enough arms and enough body, not too steep, not

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too shallow. It's basically the Goldilocks approach. And as an instructor,

542
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once you understand how to balance out the different components

543
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:31,519
in the swim, your student's next ball can indeed be better.

544
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,480
It's not some pipe dream. But again, to get to

545
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that level, back to what we say about it's not

546
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,840
a one size fits all approach. You need to understand

547
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,320
all the various techniques. And when you look at a

548
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,440
student swing in front of you, it's almost like click,

549
00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:54,480
click here does this? It goes here? Oh, and hang on,

550
00:37:54,599 --> 00:37:58,320
he's also doing this. It's like a decision tree that

551
00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:00,880
finally spits out this is what you're going to do

552
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:06,079
for him. It's knowing all the techniques, seeing enough things,

553
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,400
being able to apply an effective solution there and then okay,

554
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:17,639
you got this, do that, and that's what keeps students

555
00:38:18,159 --> 00:38:21,760
a coming back for more and be telling their friends

556
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,639
that's the best advertisement you can have.

557
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and also leads us up to number eight. For

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an instructor, you must be a master of anatomy to

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understand anatomical cause and effect, things like the explain that place.

560
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Speaker 1: So if you don't understand how the body works, it's

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very difficult to create a quote unquote certain look. Like

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for example, if if a student is early extending and

563
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then you look at his grip, like, yeah, of course

564
00:38:55,639 --> 00:38:58,400
it's early extending. It's got a weak grip. His face

565
00:38:58,519 --> 00:39:02,760
is way open at the top. To close the face,

566
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he's going to extend his trail arm right, so that's

567
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going to cause his body to live, his hips to

568
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extend forward towards the ball, Like that's a no brainer.

569
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Not that that that type of string is wrong. Jack

570
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,519
Nicholas had had more vertical forces in his string. You

571
00:39:20,599 --> 00:39:22,880
could see his hips go towards the ball on the

572
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downswing compared to see a surgery here, compared to say

573
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Gary Woodland. Now, if you understand how the body works,

574
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then as an instructor, you could say, hey, you know

575
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you want more and more rotary string. You're going to

576
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stand further away from the ball, that more forward flexion

577
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of the trunk, You're going to have maybe perhaps a

578
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,119
stronger grip because your brain knows my face is a

579
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bit shut at the top. I've got to rotate a

580
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bit more. I can't release the club with my by

581
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extending my right arm. Your brain understands all that. I mean,

582
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you give the student a queue to strengthen, and I'm

583
00:39:57,559 --> 00:40:00,960
going to have you hit a little fad David Duval.

584
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Then you can create changes down the timeline of the swing.

585
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But if you don't understand how the body works in

586
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relation to one another, good luck trying to create a

587
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certain look. So, for example, if you want your student

588
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to have more more rotary look at at the point

589
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of impact, you don't. You don't fix the elements that

590
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,320
encourages that. You're not going You're never going to get

591
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him to have that look. You're never going to get

592
00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:35,639
him more to have his tosso more open and impact.

593
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,920
I mean, why would he when his club phase is

594
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way open and you want to get him to open

595
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,199
up even more. Well, that's like trying to help him

596
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:51,440
ingrain as fortier the push lines, so cause and effect

597
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not spurious correlation.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to do one more segment here, and

599
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because not only do we have your ninth point of

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your list, but I wanted to throw something at you

601
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that that was motivated by you sending me this list.

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And we'll talk about that in a minute, but let's

603
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go to your last one here, and number nine is

604
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you must be a master of the mind and body connection.

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As desire creates intentions which create forces on the club

606
00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:33,840
expressed in the motion of the swing. Yeah, please break that.

607
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Speaker 1: Im intentions create sources on the club expressing the motion

608
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of the swing. What does that mean? If your student

609
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,119
thinks that the golf club as a specula used to

610
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,760
lift the ball up in the air, he is always

611
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,280
going to be on his trail foot trying to hoist

612
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,079
the ball up. Certainly you could work for a shorter

613
00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:56,679
club like the Sandwich, but good luck if you're trying

614
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:02,440
to use a fairy wood off the deck. So by

615
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,800
understanding a student's intentions with what they're trying to do

616
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with a particular club or a particular shot, you can

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you can quickly change that intention and once you explain

618
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:17,599
to them, Hey, look, the street spot of the club

619
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,000
is on the fourth or fifth groove of the seven iron,

620
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,920
and we're trying to use the seven iron to hit

621
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slightly down on the ball. And when you get that

622
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:34,960
across to them, his intentions would then force him or

623
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her to shift their way onto the lead side in

624
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order to get that fourth and fifth line on the

625
00:42:41,639 --> 00:42:46,760
face of the ball. Voila. We create saffnin, we create

626
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,760
a lower ball flight, and you explain, hey, the ball,

627
00:42:50,199 --> 00:42:53,199
the ball is going to take off based on the a,

628
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:59,440
the dynamic love that you're creating, and the angle of

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this of the golf club.

630
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Speaker 2: Oh my, I think I just realized why I've been

631
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,519
struggling with my six iron rightly, and that's because I'm

632
00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:14,000
hitting it way too low on the club on the

633
00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:17,320
club face. I'm not getting it up, I'm not hitting

634
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,480
it in the direction I'm aiming, and I need to

635
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:23,039
come down a little more and hit it higher up

636
00:43:23,079 --> 00:43:25,960
on the club face. My interpreting that correct.

637
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Speaker 1: Yes, So what would be quite helpful for a lot

638
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,199
of golfers. And this is one of my most popular

639
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Instagram clips. I actually drew a smiley face and a

640
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,599
dot on the fourth and fifth group, And all I

641
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,840
told students was, let's make the dot touch the center

642
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,760
of the ball, so that that kind of freed them

643
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,400
up from all the competing thoughts in their head. I'm

644
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,199
going to keep my left arm straight, keep the hit center. Now,

645
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,360
if all you're trying to do is to get the

646
00:43:57,559 --> 00:44:00,639
dot on the ball, you know what, You're going to

647
00:44:00,679 --> 00:44:04,079
have a fairly centered base of your neck. You're going

648
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to have your center of gravity favoring your your lead side.

649
00:44:08,519 --> 00:44:11,400
You're going to have your shoulders kind of your trail

650
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,119
shoulders slightly tilting down towards the ball, so that at

651
00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:18,119
the as your club face is approaching the ball, it's

652
00:44:18,199 --> 00:44:23,039
doing so on downward angle of the ta. And guess what,

653
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,760
you're going to have some some difits after you hit

654
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:33,360
the shot, which is probably one of the most satisfying

655
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,239
things you could do when blame golf on the golf course.

656
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Speaker 2: M oh my gosh.

657
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Speaker 1: The other extension of the mind body connection is helping

658
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students understand besides intention, it's also helping them understand how

659
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your body makes changes. So it's not just telling that, hey,

660
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you know what you're going to this is your your

661
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,519
swing error, but it's also okay, this is your string error.

662
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This is how I would change it, how I would

663
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change it for you. Maybe you go to the top

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of the swing. This is what it feels like even

665
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though it feels wrong. Look, I'm taking a picture of

666
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,000
your correct position at the top of the backswing. This

667
00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:18,880
is what it looks like. They go, wow, okay, it's

668
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,880
very different like what I feel and what actually happens

669
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totally different. And something I learned from doctor Scotland was

670
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reactive neural muscular training. So a lot of the weekend

671
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golfers that I teach don't really have that mind body

672
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,559
connection of like, oh, okay, this is what a position

673
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,519
feels like. So for example, if I'm getting them to

674
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:48,480
have a quote unquote shallower shaft plane on the down swing,

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I would say, hey, I'm going to steepen the shaft dramatically,

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but I want you to resist against that. So if

677
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I pull the shaft towards me when I'm standing in

678
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front of them, they start to resist and make the

679
00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:10,559
chaff stay on a flatter angle. That's going to activate

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all the correct muscle and I normally do five second

681
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counts for five repetitions for twenty five seconds after that,

682
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they're like, well I can I can start to feel

683
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that my muscles are a bit achy. I said, that's activation.

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And when we start making store golf swings as a

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form of correction, that muscle burn is reset enough so

686
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that they can go, okay, I'm going to use those muscles.

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So that's that's another aspect of the mind body connection.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, Well, that is an amazing list, and again I'm

689
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quite flattered that you use a lot of what we've

690
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talked about here on Golf Smarter over now in our

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twentieth year and you've been able to use it and

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with to be a mentor to other PGA professionals, not

693
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just not just your students. But after I received this list,

694
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I thought, I'm going to give something a try that

695
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,519
I've not tried before. I'm going to go to chat

696
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GBT and I'm going to use Ai and ask Ai,

697
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what are the top ten golf tips that we've learned

698
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from the Golf Smarter podcast. And this is what was

699
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fed back And we don't need to go into these deep,

700
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but I want to run these by you and get

701
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your reaction to one or two or going deeper if

702
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,440
you want, and it said. The Golf Smarter podcast offers

703
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practical advice for improving your game. Here are ten key

704
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tips gleaned from their episodes. Number one, you were just

705
00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:46,480
talking about this center your contact. Focus on striking the

706
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ball in the center of the club face for better consistency.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and that's all.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: All the ball cans about the club face that just

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struck me. Was it on was it on plan? Was

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it on path? In relation? Is it zero nowt am

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I being struck with the center of the face, center

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of percussion, that's all it cares about. Like, it doesn't

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care who's on the other end of the golf club.

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It doesn't care the age, the gender, golf balls. Like

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a computer, what program is being fed into me? That's

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all that matters, right, It's all that matters.

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Speaker 2: Number two, Understand your swing mechanics, simplify your approach and

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avoid overthinking.

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Speaker 1: That's very true, like TGA professionals on the last hour

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of a major when they're going to make a birdie

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that there is really no time to think about anything else.

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And those guys who don't have a simplified approach always

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tend to get in trouble because they start worrying about

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things that should not be Oh, now suddenly they see

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the water. Now suddenly they're thinking about They start projecting

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themselves way in the future, that things that could go.

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That's no place in the game of golf.

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Speaker 2: Right. Number three Short game mastery prioritize distance control and

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solid contact for putting and chipping.

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Speaker 1: To go wrong with that the short game. The short

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game is about landing your ball on the spot. And

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this is what makes the short game comparatively more difficult

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than the long game. Long game is I just want

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to get the ball somewhere the game.

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Speaker 2: I need to get it to a spot, right, Yeah,

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your target gets with each consistent with each sequential shot

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from tee to green, your target gets smaller and smaller

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and smaller. The first one is is wide, and then

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you gotta get it on the green and then you

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got to put in the whole it goes there. Number

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four Strategic course management. Play smarter by assessing risks and

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planning each shot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, if all you have in your bag

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is a fade, why try to hit a draw on

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the last stow just doesn't mix in. Don't be something

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that you are not At the same time, or at

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least that you haven't I haven't practiced, and at the

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same time, also make sure that you're not you're not

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losing strokes by making in effective decisions off the tea

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and into greens. Those things, in my mind, don't cost you.

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Speaker 2: Anything, especially on your scorecard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and don't play the hero shot back to the ego.

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Speaker 2: If you don't have it, just because you saw it

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on TV doesn't mean you can.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, doesn't doesn't mean that you're gonna thread a three

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iron through the trees just because you did it once.

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Speaker 2: Number five mental game. Manage tension and stay present to

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enhance focus.

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Speaker 1: And go wrong with it. Yeah. Yeah, it's like driving right.

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Once you get to a certain proficiency in driving a car,

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you don't really think about like, wow, I gotta turn

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the steering wheel twenty five degrees stuff like that. I

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think if people play golf the way they drove a car,

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they enjoy the game far far better. The problem with

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golf isn't balls there You think that, hey, because the

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ball is not moving, I've got time to run through

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a checklist and I can bend the ball to my

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will well just because it doesn't move. But in other spots,

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because the ball.

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Speaker 2: But if it moves, you freak out.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but you know in other sports, right, it's

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us reacting to a moving ball. When golf, the ball

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not moving creates a lot of problems for golfers.

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Speaker 2: Number six practice efficiently use drills tailored to your weaknesses.

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Speaker 1: Of course, I think a lot of us don't really.

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Unless you're a golf professional, you don't really have time

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to spend like five hours on the range trying to

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work something up. I think these days, if you work

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with a competing golf professional, he should be able to

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give you a drill that meets your needs. Then that

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solves your problems fairly quickly. And once you understand the

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process of a moto program change, then you know the path.

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The path may not be shot, but it will be

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very clear.

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Speaker 2: This one, I'm kind of again go back to flattery.

787
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It's like, oh, we really talk about it this much

788
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that it's that AI is picking it up. Number seven

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Embrace flow state. Relax into rhythm for more consistent performance. Yeah.

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Relax into a rhythm, Yeah correct.

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Speaker 1: I think I think when people understand flowstick, it's basically

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us enjoying the task that we're involved in and not

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thinking about externality like driving, Like right now when we're

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talking to each I'm not thinking about outcomes. Then you

795
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can really stay in the floor. How that relates to

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golf with remember the twelve year old kid that was

797
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telling you about playing shooting is doing it. There was

798
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no expectations he was he was really enjoying the activity

799
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he was in. But then after shooting twenty nine at

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the front night, he's like, oh, I've got Grandeo's ideas

801
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of being the first twelve year old in Singapore to

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shoot a fifty eight in competition, and you and I

803
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can know that really doesn't It doesn't work that way.

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Then now you're you're trying to do something that's the

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opposite of being in a flow state where you let

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things happen.

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Speaker 2: Number eight no ball flight laws. Learn how adjustments affect trajectory.

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Speaker 1: Yes, once you understand the true ball flight laws that

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space is the primary determinant of where a ball takes off,

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then it's easy to correct or adjust your soon to

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produce the intended ball flight for the situation I had.

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Speaker 2: And we're just kind of talking about this with that

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twelve year old kid. Number nine avoid perfectionism, focus on progress,

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not flawless execution.

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Speaker 1: You know. Interestingly enough, I had another point on my

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list that I came up with. It's basically, don't let

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perfect be the enemy of good color relate to do

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that Barto's principle, right, the eighty twenty rule. Sometimes good

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enough is good enough. It need not be perfect.

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Speaker 2: And the last point that AI suggests that they learned

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from Golf Smarter podcast number ten, fitness and flexibility. Stay

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physically prepared to avoid injuries and improve mobility.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's true in this modern day and each However,

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some people will say, hey, back in the sixties seventies,

825
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golfers didn't really look like athletes, but they still shot

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low score.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but there were also in those days the

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golfers that were succeeding were older. You have a lot

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more younger golfers succeeding at a very high level right now. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Interesting you point out this.

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Speaker 2: And I think that has a lot to do with physicality.

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Speaker 1: Another point I would like to bring up is I

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think golfers back had less injuries than the modern athlete.

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Jack Nicholas said that one key reason for his success

835
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was that he was never injured during his career. The

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only he at fifty eight or fifty nine he had

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his first hip replacement, but that was like at the

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tail end of his career, but at his prime he

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never missed any major due to injury. I thought that

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was telling from the greatest golf of all time.

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Speaker 2: Justin Thank you so much for sharing that list, Thank

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you for staying in touch. Thank you for sharing your

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wisdom and your instruction. I really appreciate it and really

844
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enjoy having these conversations with you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for having me back on for

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always happy to share