1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:08,279 Speaker 1: Let's play from the Joint Session of Congress Trump's discussion 2 00:00:08,759 --> 00:00:09,480 on DEI. 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,919 Speaker 2: We've ended the tyranny of so called diversity, equity, and 4 00:00:15,039 --> 00:00:20,760 inclusion policies all across the entire federal government, and indeed 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:30,079 the private sector and our military and our country will 6 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:41,479 be woke no longer. We believe that whether you are 7 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:46,600 a doctor, an accountant, a lawyer, or an air traffic controller, 8 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,600 you should be hired and promoted based on skill and competence, 9 00:00:51,679 --> 00:01:04,040 not race or gender. Very important, you should be hired 10 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,319 based on merit, and the Supreme Court, in a brave 11 00:01:09,439 --> 00:01:12,920 and very powerful decision, has allowed us to do so. 12 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, very much, thank you. 13 00:01:18,799 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: We have removed the poison of critical race theory from 14 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,640 our public schools, and I signed in order making it 15 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,959 the official policy of the United States government that there 16 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,680 are only two genders, male and female. 17 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,079 Speaker 4: So what did all of that say to you? 18 00:01:46,159 --> 00:01:48,599 Speaker 1: And how do you think it landed with the country 19 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,879 in light of everything that we've now come through. 20 00:01:52,239 --> 00:01:54,519 Speaker 5: Yeah, let me cut to the case. The President of 21 00:01:54,519 --> 00:01:57,040 the United States was George Wallace Reborn. What do you 22 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,760 basically said was segregation now, segregation forever? And what he 23 00:02:00,879 --> 00:02:03,640 said to folks very clearly was if you are black 24 00:02:04,799 --> 00:02:07,959 or any other race or creed other than what, you 25 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:11,240 are not getting your job based on merrit. 26 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: You are not qualified. 27 00:02:13,039 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 5: And if you are doing this thing on gender or 28 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,840 race and taking those factors into consideration, you're grabbing some 29 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:26,159 deserving white guy's job or some deserving white person's whatever position. 30 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,479 You know, getting rid of a guy like C. Q. Brown, 31 00:02:30,039 --> 00:02:33,879 Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. What an honored and storied 32 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,719 career in the Air Force, you know, making the rank 33 00:02:37,879 --> 00:02:42,319 of general and being on the Joint Chiefs for by 34 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,000 the way, a term that should have survived being fired, 35 00:02:46,199 --> 00:02:49,159 just like the FBI director and others. We have these 36 00:02:49,159 --> 00:02:52,639 things in place for a reason. Trump and Hagseth and 37 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,039 RFK Junior and all the rest of them that are 38 00:02:55,080 --> 00:03:00,080 just firing anything that's black, brown, or considered diversity. They 39 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,759 are re establishing the order Michael of nineteen fifty four. 40 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,039 This is happening in broad daylight, and they've made it 41 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,000 okay by telling white people. 42 00:03:12,039 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 3: It goes back to what Lyndon Johnson said about it. 43 00:03:14,039 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 5: If you can take the lowest white man and convincing 44 00:03:17,039 --> 00:03:20,680 that his pockets are being picked by a black man 45 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,639 or someone else at his expense, you can keep his 46 00:03:23,759 --> 00:03:24,400 vote forever. 47 00:03:24,479 --> 00:03:26,319 Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing, but everybody knows. 48 00:03:26,159 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 4: That famous Oh yeah, no, yeah, Johnson did say that. Yes. 49 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,759 Speaker 5: And the point is is that these boys, and I 50 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,639 call these old boys the Old Boys Network, have figured 51 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,199 out how to play this game based on fear. It 52 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,319 has worked from the beginning of the founding of this 53 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:47,280 Great Republic, when Jefferson and Adams and and Ben Franklin 54 00:03:47,319 --> 00:03:50,080 sat in the room as Jefferson's penning the declaration. In 55 00:03:50,199 --> 00:03:53,199 Jefferson's original declaration, he wants to get rid of slavery. 56 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,680 He's a slave owner, but he understands that the institution 57 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,919 is odious, it shouldn't exist, and that it's not okay. 58 00:04:00,039 --> 00:04:02,840 He tries to blame it on King George. Of course, 59 00:04:02,879 --> 00:04:05,319 they tell him, you can't put that in there because 60 00:04:05,319 --> 00:04:10,120 the South will never tolerate not having slavery. You gotta 61 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,319 deal with the belly of the beast and the roots 62 00:04:12,319 --> 00:04:15,319 of this, Michael. And that's why it keeps coming up. Right, 63 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:19,480 it's a we're in a dark period. And what Donald 64 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:22,240 Trump did. That clip you played is distressing to me 65 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,319 because you can see it in the dialogue of what 66 00:04:26,399 --> 00:04:28,519 people now say Oakley on social media. 67 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 3: They call you the N word, they call you the 68 00:04:30,879 --> 00:04:31,480 B word. 69 00:04:32,199 --> 00:04:37,199 Speaker 5: People feel empowered by Donald Trump's rhetoric to say, Michael's 70 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,920 only there because he's black. 71 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: And Michael didn't earn anything. 72 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,639 Speaker 5: Forget about his John Hopkins degree and his accolades and 73 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,720 his academic credentials. 74 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 3: He just got it because he's black. 75 00:04:48,879 --> 00:04:51,879 Speaker 1: So let's go to the core that because I can 76 00:04:51,959 --> 00:04:57,519 tell you forty years of that conversation, but it really 77 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,040 does go to the heart. 78 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 4: What is it it. 79 00:05:01,519 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: That going back to that moment where you've got two resumes, right, 80 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:12,839 and you just and you get the job as a 81 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,480 black woman or black man? 82 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 4: What is it about? I don't know what is it? 83 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: Why would anyone think that you weren't qualified to do 84 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,839 the job that you've just been hired to do. 85 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 4: You're an air traffic controller. 86 00:05:36,639 --> 00:05:42,759 Speaker 1: So before when planes crashed by under white air traffic controllers, 87 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:50,000 that was just what versus when plane crashes under the 88 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,879 watchful eye of a person of color, a black traffic controler. 89 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,160 Because that's what the whole d AI thing is about, 90 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:04,519 you know. They jumped to this conclusion that the air 91 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:09,319 traffic controller in the helicopter crash, or the pilots in 92 00:06:09,399 --> 00:06:12,839 the helicopter crash, in the air plane crash. 93 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 4: And it was none of the above were people of color, 94 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:15,839 and they were not. 95 00:06:16,199 --> 00:06:17,079 Speaker 3: They were all white. 96 00:06:17,199 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 5: But you know, you get a little credent like Charlie 97 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,839 Kirk who gets up and says, well, if I see 98 00:06:22,879 --> 00:06:25,680 a black pilot when I get on the plane, I 99 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,519 don't know, because that's DEI. 100 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,199 Speaker 3: And so what they've done. 101 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:34,959 Speaker 5: Is they polluted the media, whether it's television or whether 102 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:39,439 it's online, whatever it is in the workplace. And because 103 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,560 of the misinformation and the disinformation, And Michael, one of 104 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:43,839 the things that's gonna wreck. 105 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: This republic if we live to see our two hundred 106 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,120 and fiftieth. 107 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,199 Speaker 5: Next year, is the lack of civics, the lack of 108 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,079 basic understanding about how government worked, how we elect people, 109 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,680 why we elect them, what articles one, two and three say, 110 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,399 and the basic lack of understanding of racist country and racism, 111 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,680 which is why critical race theory Derek Bell came up 112 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,480 with that which simply means that there are systemic structures 113 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,680 that still exist. To your point, with the two resumes 114 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,319 that will always favor the majority and I think that 115 00:07:16,439 --> 00:07:19,199 this wokeness thing is something we should talk about to Michael, 116 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,639 because it goes back to your point of what do 117 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:25,519 I do with these two resumes. Well, if diversity, equity, 118 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,399 inclusion is something that we practice at Potscow and I'm 119 00:07:29,439 --> 00:07:32,720 a costco exec, then I'm going to look at my 120 00:07:32,839 --> 00:07:37,120 workforce numbers and say, I've got really good people. But man, 121 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,720 I've got ninety nine percent of my managers in the 122 00:07:40,759 --> 00:07:44,439 warehouse are white guys. I've got we can't pool here 123 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,399 of women and some people of color who clearly are qualified. 124 00:07:48,839 --> 00:07:50,519 Speaker 3: I would like to bring those. 125 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 5: People into my workforce because people that look like that 126 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,800 shop at my store and spending their dollars at my store. 127 00:08:00,759 --> 00:08:04,519 The Montgomery bus boycott is all about. That's what it's 128 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,800 about when we talk about inclusion. 129 00:08:08,079 --> 00:08:11,759 Speaker 3: If you want my damn money Target. 130 00:08:10,839 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 5: And Walmart and Amazon, then you better have people who 131 00:08:14,839 --> 00:08:15,759 look like me. 132 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: Working at your company. 133 00:08:18,639 --> 00:08:20,879 Speaker 5: Or why should I spend my money there if you 134 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,839 don't promote people who have my life experience too. 135 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:30,199 Speaker 1: So that that is that is all all spot on, accurate, 136 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:34,480 dead to the point. But here's here's what I've heard 137 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:44,159 as as a response to that. Well, these these you know, 138 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:52,399 these stores, these shops, the places where people spend their money. 139 00:08:52,639 --> 00:08:56,879 They they've always been white run. Yeah, you may have, 140 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:02,279 you may have a corner store in a neighborhood that's 141 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,039 either mixed or majority black. There was no need to 142 00:09:06,639 --> 00:09:10,000 hire black people to work in that store at a 143 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,600 management level. Yeah, they could come and clean the floor 144 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,919 at the end of the evening, or they could you know, 145 00:09:16,039 --> 00:09:21,759 stock my shelves. But there was no correlation between who 146 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,840 owned the store, who managed the store, and the community 147 00:09:26,919 --> 00:09:32,200 that store was in. And so the pushback is that's 148 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,639 politically correctness, that's political correctness. 149 00:09:35,879 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 4: That because well, well. 150 00:09:41,639 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: That's that's kind of what I pointed out. But I'm 151 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,679 just you know, they're thinking. 152 00:09:46,759 --> 00:09:49,639 Speaker 5: Because follow that through you and our lawyers. Let's let's 153 00:09:49,639 --> 00:09:51,240 go back to our logic and our first year of 154 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:51,799 law school. 155 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 3: What that means is only white people should run things, uh, 156 00:09:57,399 --> 00:10:01,960 manage things. You you others can do the grunt work. 157 00:10:01,759 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 5: Because that's the way it was in nineteen fifty four. 158 00:10:04,639 --> 00:10:06,279 Speaker 4: But it's not even the grunt work. 159 00:10:06,759 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: It's I know, everybody else you others, black, brown, gay, lesbian, whatever, 160 00:10:15,279 --> 00:10:18,720 you're going to shop in my store, you're going to 161 00:10:18,799 --> 00:10:21,120 come to my store and let me give you a 162 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,799 modern day example of what I'm talking about. I live 163 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:29,919 in Prince George's County, Maryland, once the wealthiest black county 164 00:10:30,039 --> 00:10:31,240 in the country. 165 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 4: It is no longer. 166 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: The county next door has now moved because black folks 167 00:10:35,039 --> 00:10:38,480 have moved right, and they've taken their money and they've moved. 168 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 4: But it's still a wealthy black county, no doubt. 169 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: We don't have a place or place is in this 170 00:10:46,159 --> 00:10:53,799 county that facilitate shopping and restaurants that you see in 171 00:10:53,879 --> 00:10:55,720 the surrounding white counties. 172 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,039 Speaker 3: I mean like Tyson's Corner in Moude, Virginia. 173 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:04,759 Speaker 1: Tyson's Corner, but Feesda Maryland, Minneapolis, Maryland, yep et cetera. 174 00:11:05,039 --> 00:11:08,519 Speaker 4: You wrote a piece that I think sort. 175 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: Of sets sets this up when Donald Trump came out 176 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,559 and talked about and showed the little the graphics, the 177 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:20,000 Time magazine graphic of him as a king, King Donald 178 00:11:20,039 --> 00:11:23,200 the First, and you you kind of put the question 179 00:11:23,279 --> 00:11:25,519 out there, so what does this all look like with 180 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:26,840 King Donald the First? 181 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,279 Speaker 5: Well, I really talk about it in the context of 182 00:11:30,279 --> 00:11:34,000 the Founding Fathers again, as we approach that sessmentinnial next year, 183 00:11:34,039 --> 00:11:37,519 in twenty twenty six, two hundred and fifty years Lord Willing, 184 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:42,600 and obviously this country was formed, these United States, in 185 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:47,399 rebellion to a king. You're an authoritarian who felt that 186 00:11:47,879 --> 00:11:51,360 he could come and take your tea, take your money, 187 00:11:51,639 --> 00:11:54,759 take your family, take your house, and that you owed 188 00:11:54,879 --> 00:11:58,240 him homage across the ocean, that he could send his 189 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,559 Hessian soldiers or his at any time. They could kick 190 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,200 in your door and he could tell you when and 191 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:04,960 where and how to. 192 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 3: Think and what to do. 193 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 6: And they were like, wait a minute, no, that's not 194 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,960 who we want to be, where individual colonies were independent, 195 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,039 and so fast forward to twenty twenty five, we have 196 00:12:15,159 --> 00:12:16,960 fifty sister states. 197 00:12:17,279 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 5: They are sovereign under the Tenth Amendment to those powers 198 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,159 not vested in the federal government. But when you look 199 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,919 at what Donald Trump is done with putting Elon Musk Michael, 200 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,200 he's unelected, he is unsentate, confirmed. 201 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,159 Speaker 3: I don't know why he's there. 202 00:12:33,919 --> 00:12:36,799 Speaker 5: I don't understand it, but he has been given power. 203 00:12:36,879 --> 00:12:40,320 He sleeps at the White House, he's on Air Force one. 204 00:12:40,399 --> 00:12:43,120 He comes on the law with his mother and his child. 205 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,200 In fact, you saw the press conference with the child, right, Yeah, 206 00:12:46,519 --> 00:12:47,960 Donald Trump to shut your mouth. 207 00:12:48,279 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 3: Right, you don't belong. 208 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,799 Speaker 4: Here, right, You're not the President of the United States. 209 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,679 So I guess is. 210 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 5: That speech last night, that Joint Session State of the Union, 211 00:12:58,879 --> 00:13:01,519 whatever you want to call it, he laid out very 212 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,679 clearly that he is the executive has all the power 213 00:13:05,799 --> 00:13:09,919 vested in him. He's going to take Greenland one way 214 00:13:10,039 --> 00:13:12,600 or another. I couldn't believe he said it, but he did. 215 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:17,960 And he's got tariffs against you know, Mexico, Canada. 216 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,399 Speaker 3: The markets are tanking. I came up with. 217 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 5: This King Donald first because he's acting just like King 218 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,960 George the third. And that's how King George the third 219 00:13:28,519 --> 00:13:30,799 got his ass handed to him by a bunch of 220 00:13:30,879 --> 00:13:34,919 ragtag colonists who beat him down. And I think the 221 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,679 American people are waking up to a horror that they 222 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,639 didn't anticipate, even those who voted for him, because this 223 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:47,000 USAID money and I h money in grants cancer research. 224 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,679 You give us a child with cancer who we all 225 00:13:49,759 --> 00:13:52,519 are grateful for and applaud and are happy that he 226 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,000 is well, but then you cut cancer money so that 227 00:13:56,159 --> 00:13:58,919 other people can heal and be well. Right, it's a 228 00:13:58,919 --> 00:14:03,080 shell game with Donald. He's a king elon musk is 229 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,120 the court gesture, I guess and you know, I love 230 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,519 your thoughts somewhere you see us right now as a republic, 231 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,879 because I think we're in very, very, very I think. 232 00:14:12,759 --> 00:14:15,879 Speaker 1: We're in trouble, and I think we're in trouble on 233 00:14:15,919 --> 00:14:16,799 a number of fronts. 234 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:17,759 Speaker 4: At the same time. 235 00:14:18,279 --> 00:14:24,399 Speaker 1: You have certainly the domestic disruption, no doubt, then you 236 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:30,559 also have the foreign entanglements and between Israel and the 237 00:14:30,639 --> 00:14:35,639 European and European entanglements with Ukraine. And I think in 238 00:14:35,679 --> 00:14:40,039 many respects that was kind of manifest in how that 239 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,960 meeting with President Zelenski went in the Oval Office, the 240 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,000 big setup. It was very clearly it was contrived to. 241 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,039 Speaker 4: Go the way it went. 242 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: Jd Vance who anyone, and I've you know, a lot 243 00:14:55,159 --> 00:14:58,399 of our mutual friends have worked in the Oval and 244 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:04,080 certainly my COHO Simone Sanders Townsend, having worked there with 245 00:15:04,159 --> 00:15:07,600 Kamala Harris, was one of the first to say, when 246 00:15:07,639 --> 00:15:12,320 you're on the couch in the Oval Office, you don't speak, 247 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,200 even if you're the Vice President of the United States, 248 00:15:16,679 --> 00:15:19,519 you do not open your mouth unless you are given 249 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,799 permission by the president to speak. Case in point, if 250 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:29,559 if Zelensky had looked directly, which he did at one 251 00:15:29,639 --> 00:15:33,240 point and ask jd Vance the question, what do you 252 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,600 mean what are you talking about? When you jd Vance 253 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:43,399 under the normal circumstances does not have permission to respond 254 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,919 to President Zelensky unless it's given to him by President Trump. 255 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,519 Called protocol, folks, It's called protocol. And the fact that 256 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,799 he went full on maga in the middle of that, 257 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,840 he remember, folks, the first forty minutes of that conversation 258 00:16:00,759 --> 00:16:07,960 was a normal conversation. It turned when when the trigger 259 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:15,080 language or the trigger words were used last question, and 260 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,320 that's when jd Vance showed his ass. 261 00:16:19,519 --> 00:16:21,799 Speaker 4: So you see this sort of set up. 262 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: You see Rubio sitting. 263 00:16:23,399 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 4: There like a little Rubio. God bless Marco. 264 00:16:27,919 --> 00:16:33,679 Speaker 1: I've known Marco a long time. I just and and 265 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,200 you know, as I said to a lot of our 266 00:16:36,279 --> 00:16:40,279 mutual friends, I said, it's a shame to watch someone 267 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,200 like him get punked the way he is by Donald Trump, 268 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:49,639 because he's a Dei higher as a number of them are. 269 00:16:49,919 --> 00:16:52,840 A number of the people are a di I Howard. 270 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:56,320 But the interesting thing is it's something I knew from 271 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,279 my experience with Trump, and it's something that Michael Cohen 272 00:16:59,399 --> 00:17:04,079 confirmed from his lived experience because he got punked too. 273 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,920 And Trump has this tendency. Once he knows your weakness 274 00:17:09,039 --> 00:17:11,880 and you didn't wind up on he gets you pulled 275 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,680 into his orbit. He will always use that weakness against 276 00:17:15,759 --> 00:17:19,480 you and make you do things and say things that 277 00:17:19,519 --> 00:17:24,480 are counter to your core beliefs or whatever you once 278 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:29,200 held as a view. Marco was one of the leading 279 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:35,440 senators supporting Ukraine, one of its greatest defenders. He along 280 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,240 with John McCain, God rest him. We're at the fore 281 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:43,960 front when Crimea fell, warned about Ukraine, talked about Russian 282 00:17:44,079 --> 00:17:48,200 encouragion and invasion in a very authentic way. And now 283 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,599 Donald Trump has got him sitting there as the key 284 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:58,880 piece of deconstructing Ukraine on behalf of Vladimir Putin. That's 285 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,279 the ultimate punkin. And so you have these tableaux that 286 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:08,839 are playing out, Sophia, and it really makes you ask yourself, 287 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,359 what does it mean not just for the US Ukraine relationships, 288 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,359 but to your point in your article of King Donald 289 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,799 the first, how does this how does. 290 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 7: This this illusion that he's creating impact the way our 291 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,839 adversaries and our allies respond to us. 292 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 3: Well, you know, Michael You've been doing this a long time. 293 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 5: I've been doing this a long time, and I have 294 00:18:38,759 --> 00:18:42,720 to be honest to see what you just outline. Take 295 00:18:42,799 --> 00:18:45,759 someone like Marco Rubio, Senator, someone who at one point 296 00:18:45,759 --> 00:18:48,759 had integrity, and to jd. 297 00:18:48,599 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 3: Vance all of them, all of them. 298 00:18:50,839 --> 00:18:52,519 Speaker 5: It reminds me you're a man of faith. I'm a 299 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:54,599 woman of faith. It reminds me of the Apostle Paul 300 00:18:54,599 --> 00:18:56,880 in Roman seven seven. You know what a wretched man 301 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,720 I am. The very thing I don't want to do 302 00:18:58,799 --> 00:19:01,680 I find myself doing. I feel like Trump has this 303 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,720 power that is nefarious. 304 00:19:04,839 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 3: It has an evil hint to. 305 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:12,519 Speaker 5: It in a way that like authoritarians, like tyrannical monarchs 306 00:19:12,559 --> 00:19:15,440 of old, which we can point to many of them 307 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:20,079 throughout history, they destroy, they take good people, they flip 308 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,720 them to the dark side, if you will, or turn 309 00:19:22,799 --> 00:19:24,319 them against their own people. 310 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 3: And we're seeing that. 311 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 5: And so I really give a lot of respect to 312 00:19:28,599 --> 00:19:32,680 Europe in this past week for stepping up from the Bridge, 313 00:19:32,759 --> 00:19:38,240 to the French, to the Italians, to every other NATO country. 314 00:19:38,279 --> 00:19:40,839 Speaker 3: That I think really got a wake up call Michael 315 00:19:40,839 --> 00:19:42,599 after that oval off of visit, I. 316 00:19:42,559 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 5: Think people were shook by that worldwide. That dance, I agree, 317 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,079 really gone down a hole. 318 00:19:49,519 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: To your point, you have the you have the Kremlin. 319 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,599 I keep referring to the Kremlin because that's what they are. 320 00:19:55,759 --> 00:19:58,359 This is the mind and mindset in the framing of 321 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,720 Vladimir Putin because he is old KGB. 322 00:20:01,279 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 3: So let's very good at it. 323 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 4: It's very good at it. 324 00:20:05,279 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: But they put out a statement saying they are happy 325 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:16,440 to see that US and Russia foreign policy is now aligned. America, 326 00:20:16,759 --> 00:20:21,759 wake your ass up. Understand exactly when the Russian has 327 00:20:21,799 --> 00:20:26,759 put out a statement that says our foreign policy and 328 00:20:26,799 --> 00:20:30,000 we all know what their foreign policy is and the 329 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,319 US foreign policy, and you know what our foreign policy 330 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:41,000 has been. Right, going back to Romney who labeled it 331 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:54,480 in the twenty twelve elections, they are our enemy.