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<v Speaker 1>Mike check one two one two.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Mike check one two one two.

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<v Speaker 1>One two one tier back. Hold your hold your mic

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<v Speaker 1>up to your face. Father, you gotta hold it like that.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go back by popular demand, Pops, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing good?

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<v Speaker 1>Good a man, A few words. I love that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what podcasts are for. Just tell me, tell me the

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<v Speaker 1>least amount possible. You put me in this. You put

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<v Speaker 1>me in this shittle rabbit hole. It is the worst

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<v Speaker 1>thing I've ever done to you. I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I did it to myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, no, you didn't. You're trying to help your kidd

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<v Speaker 1>ou out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was trying, but worked out well. Yeah, looked

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<v Speaker 2>out well.

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<v Speaker 1>For no good deed goes unpunished.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right. I'm just gonna say it. But you

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<v Speaker 2>beat me through the punch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. What'd you say to me the other day? What'd

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<v Speaker 1>you say when I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, why you just let me die last year?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I had this make me get open heart surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I made you get open heart surgery so you

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<v Speaker 1>could wire my ex boyfriend's bagels so you could have

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<v Speaker 1>the worst summer of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not as bad as it looks.

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<v Speaker 1>Your crocs are squeaking. Okay, the crocs are squeaking. The

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<v Speaker 1>crocs in the socks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, cock socks.

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<v Speaker 1>Crock socks. So anyway, I got here two days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>You had zero prospects. Oh boy, you had zero prospects

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<v Speaker 1>two days ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I still have zero prostucts.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm quite a wing woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Wing wing something.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to hold the make up hire I do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I hold it like me because you're speaking real soft too,

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<v Speaker 1>and then nobody's gonna hear and they want to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>Jar bar.

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<v Speaker 1>Alright, all right, curious. So yeah, no, I come on,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a good wing woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're doing your best, doing your best.

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<v Speaker 1>We went to dinner last night and we met some

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<v Speaker 1>nice ladies. They pushed their table up against ours and

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<v Speaker 1>had dinner with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I told you, you know, because you do this

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<v Speaker 1>thing all the time when we go to restaurants, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a very Midwest thing where you always start talking

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<v Speaker 1>to the table next to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, And I told me I couldn't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I so you did? Yes, you did?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>You did? You started, You started it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're the one that leaned over.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I told her what was going on, because what

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<v Speaker 1>happened is another table sat next to us, and did

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<v Speaker 1>you see they asked to move? No, you didn't see that.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't notice that a table.

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<v Speaker 2>Moved over to the other side. I noticed they did that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was wondering why.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you could have asked him.

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<v Speaker 2>What I didn't say anything. I didn't say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So you do this when we go out to restaurants

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, which I think is very endearing, but other

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<v Speaker 1>people find it annoying, which is that you sit down

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<v Speaker 1>and you immediately let the other table into the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>You say, Hey, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Going, how's it going?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you probably doing?

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<v Speaker 2>You doing? So?

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<v Speaker 1>I told him right before the next table, because I

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<v Speaker 1>watched a table cycle out real quick next to us,

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<v Speaker 1>and I told you, did I say, right before they

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<v Speaker 1>sat down? What did I say? Before they sat down?

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<v Speaker 2>You said, don't talk to any other tables?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And then I didn't?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you did, Dad. The second they sat.

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<v Speaker 2>Down, I just said, hey, how's it going.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you said hey, you're beautiful? I did, Yes you did. Oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you said hi, you're beautiful, and then you said what

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Dad, and then I had to explain

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<v Speaker 1>to her. And then she was luckily from Minnesota, Minnesota, Minnesota, Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>so we had another Midwestern Oh, don't channell, Oh don't

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<v Speaker 1>all don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just selling cars here on the Hooper.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you were talking to her friend about Fargo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she loves that show. She said she watched it

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<v Speaker 2>a hundred times.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's too many times to watch anything.

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<v Speaker 2>That's her deal.

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<v Speaker 1>That's her deal. So anyway, now you've got a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of prospects. Yeah, no, I don't understand why you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're down here and you gotta be down here,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you want some friends?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't really have time for friends. You editing

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<v Speaker 2>at all?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean you don't have?

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<v Speaker 1>You got nothing to do?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but nothing's good.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm here for a reason, and my reason is

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<v Speaker 2>not to hook up with someone.

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<v Speaker 1>Your reason is to walk around hundred miles away. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>your first of all, your reason, what you've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>is walking around the apartment with water shoes and socks on.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you could get a reason that's better than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm gonna switch to cowboy shorts, no pants. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just stand outside till I get the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 2>They fling me on the ground. Watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, Yeah, I mean I've never obviously, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to live in Florida, and I I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so glad I don't because the dog days of summer here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, it's thick.

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<v Speaker 1>You like drink the air when you walk outside.

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<v Speaker 2>You can squeeze drops the water out of the air

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<v Speaker 2>with your fist.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, little, you can wring it out. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, that's salty. That's my sweat. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, but you've been doing sprints up and down the block.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's only leg day.

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<v Speaker 1>That's on leg day, all right, while you're getting in

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<v Speaker 1>shape if nothing else, I know. Yeah, your body's in shape.

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<v Speaker 1>Your mind's a mess.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my mind's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>My mind's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Mine's fine. Yeah, I got it all put together. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>running three jobs, four jobs, three of them from fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>hundred miles away. Every day I talk to the guys

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<v Speaker 2>and I tell them what they need to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, really, well, you're supposed to be retiring.

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<v Speaker 2>I was supposed to retire last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what happened? The old open heart, the old open heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. When you're it's not easy to close the business. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but down a business?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Do you have so many people reaching out to you? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about your heart surgery. When I called you

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<v Speaker 1>and said, I went to a psychic, yes, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>you got some heart problems.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, you said, he said, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>it is. There's something the matter in his chest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. He said he didn't know if it was lungs

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, well, it's a broken heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Intense emotionally feel a loss. Serious chiming in with what

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<v Speaker 1>a broken heart is? Sis, stop it, Siri, We know

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<v Speaker 1>what a broken heart is? Is that even, Siri? What

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<v Speaker 1>does I stop it? Okay, all right, let's let her die?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, my phone in the mine attack of

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<v Speaker 1>the technology, Oh my god. Okay, So I say that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you were very reticent. You did not want

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<v Speaker 1>to get anything checked.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I The only reason I did is because you've

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<v Speaker 2>said you weren't going on a canoe trip.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't get cassium heart scan, right, so it just

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<v Speaker 2>to prove you wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you ended up on it operating, ended up with.

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<v Speaker 2>My lungs and heart outside my bike wearing on my chest,

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<v Speaker 2>which I didn't see, but I asked for a film

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<v Speaker 2>of that. It would have been cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the doctor was wearing a GoPro. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about that being so cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it would be.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think you really went in there. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>made it. Did you ever think that doctor?

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<v Speaker 2>I did. I thanked her, him and her.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think they take it outside.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they said they laid it out.

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<v Speaker 1>They laid out the heart, they collapsed the line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they bring the heart outside so they can

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<v Speaker 2>cut all of them the veins put the in there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>They take the veins out of your legs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, what's funny about the whole process is your

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<v Speaker 1>your absolute denial the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't. I got the results and got some arts again,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it said, like I remember, first line said

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<v Speaker 2>like zero problems.

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<v Speaker 1>No it didn't. It said ninety eight percentile, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Which I got ninety eight percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, yeah, not ninety eight percent. My heart's going to

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<v Speaker 1>stop for the next couple of days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I sent it to you guys like see

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<v Speaker 2>like see yeah good, yeah, see see I'm okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I told you to quit worrying, and Heather calls drop

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you're doing. It goes see your hearts surgeon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the cardio cardiologist.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But I was playing baseball at the time, hardball

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<v Speaker 2>in a sixteen over league and a fifty five and

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<v Speaker 2>over league, and I had It's not like I had

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<v Speaker 2>any pain. I had discomfort in my upper chest, like

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<v Speaker 2>a high yeah, and that was but then it would

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<v Speaker 2>go away, like after the first after you got moving,

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<v Speaker 2>it would go away. And I was just like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what happens when you get old.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dropped out on the baseball this has happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Chase the ball like a dog. Yeah, and you keel

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<v Speaker 2>over on the morning track.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Yeah, that was. It was an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>series of emotions to witness because there was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of denial and then there was a lot of anger

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<v Speaker 1>when you found out you had to get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was mad.

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<v Speaker 1>You're mad because I ruined another I ruined yet another sub.

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<v Speaker 1>I ruined the canoe trip.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that would have been probably the worst thing decision

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<v Speaker 2>I ever made, to go on a canoe trip.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what we were going to paddles. Yeah, yeah, yea.

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<v Speaker 2>Canoe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we're in the middle of in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>hold of anyone. Dad's just keeled over the Hey girls back,

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<v Speaker 1>that is if you were alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Who was going to goal?

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone? It was Brian Westbach and his son Rick And then.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's right you Heather, Yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Qui was on the fence about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Some we had to have a sixth person.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe it was Qui, but anyway, we h didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go spoiler alert. But the good news is you get

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>But even when you were going into that surgery, you

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<v Speaker 1>were making jokes on the table and the nurse was like,

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<v Speaker 2>Why? What did I say? I asked her if I

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna still be able to know?

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<v Speaker 1>That was when you got out of surgery. When you

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<v Speaker 1>got out of surgery, you said to her, the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing you said was I don't You said, am I

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<v Speaker 1>going to still be able to play guitar? Or am

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<v Speaker 1>I going to be able to play guitar? And she's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you should be able to when you're heeled and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's cool because I couldn't before.

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<v Speaker 2>I never could before I had a phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, no, but even like before the surgery, were

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<v Speaker 1>making jokes and the woman was not really having it.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, do you understand? And you didn't understand. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. You told everyone you were going to be

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<v Speaker 2>I was no, you were, you were I put it

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<v Speaker 2>on the horse vest. Yeah, the flat jacket. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to moti wine more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you tried to go both the lawn right after

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<v Speaker 1>you had open heart surgery. Like your chest isn't even

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<v Speaker 1>glued together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what do you call it? The gluten screwed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, gluten screwed. The clavicles busted out.

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<v Speaker 2>I could feel the staples.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, every time you breathed. Oh and when you would sneeze.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I forgot about that. Yeah, no, only that was

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<v Speaker 2>what really bothered me was the oozing.

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<v Speaker 1>The oozing, Yeah, the drippage. Yeah, it was really something.

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<v Speaker 1>But you really want to at all? No, it's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>you you really wanted At some point Heather and I

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<v Speaker 1>out of the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you guys are on me, like white on rice,

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<v Speaker 2>stink on poop.

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<v Speaker 1>I really wasn't. I was pretty hands off. Heather was

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping with you. Heather was leg next to you in

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<v Speaker 1>bed to make sure you didn't because one night, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>one night you screwed your pills up because you were

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<v Speaker 1>so looped up and you messed your pills up there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you were on a different planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I don't know what they gave me, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably oxy No.

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<v Speaker 2>I had that when I broke my neck oxy Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I quit taking it after the first day because

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<v Speaker 2>the walls were closing in on me. The ceiling was

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<v Speaker 2>coming down.

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<v Speaker 1>Really really, most people like oxycon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not me, me me. I gave him to my brother. No,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just took extra same town all. Anytime I

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<v Speaker 2>had pain, I dealt with the pain.

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<v Speaker 1>When your neck was broken, yeah, the first time or

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<v Speaker 1>the second time?

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<v Speaker 2>First time?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the first time. Well that that was crazy too,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean you were hunting with your brother Mike, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and you were boozing a little.

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<v Speaker 2>No dad four night before. But no, it was it

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<v Speaker 2>had nothing to do with that. It was just situation

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<v Speaker 2>that three branches broke at the same time when I

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<v Speaker 2>was climbing down the tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I thought you were in a tree stand hunting

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<v Speaker 1>and you fell out.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I climbed the tree way up and then I

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<v Speaker 2>was coming down and three branches broke at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>The tool of my feet were on and won my hand.

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<v Speaker 2>One hand was on, okay, and the fall. The funny

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<v Speaker 2>part of that is the fall did not It seemed

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<v Speaker 2>like it probably only took a second or two seconds

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<v Speaker 2>to come down twenty feet and I was in a spin,

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<v Speaker 2>but it seemed like an hour. Oh yeah, because you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh boy, yeah, how am I gonna land? Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 2>is not going to be good. And I landed face first.

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<v Speaker 2>And the funny part is the fall did not break

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<v Speaker 2>my neck. I had the gun slung a sling. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a sling on the gun, and I slung it

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<v Speaker 2>over my back and when I hit the ground, the

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<v Speaker 2>gun slammed onto my neck. Oh, and that's what broke

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<v Speaker 2>my neck.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, man, that could have been way worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, that's the thing, because I I landed like this,

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<v Speaker 2>face first.

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<v Speaker 1>My head yeah. Oh yeah, it went yeah exactly, good night.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, you were a couple of degrees away

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<v Speaker 1>from death there, yeah, five degrees away from it. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's you really have dodged a few bullets. Yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>few bullets.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It makes you wonder if I can still do

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<v Speaker 2>a handspring my arms collapse and break my.

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<v Speaker 1>Neck and go, wait, how'd you break your neck the

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<v Speaker 1>second time?

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<v Speaker 2>Shallow lake? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually you never told me that. No, No, you kept

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<v Speaker 1>none of your business.

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<v Speaker 2>You know everything, stupid I do.

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<v Speaker 1>You dove into a shallow lake?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it wasn't my neck bone. It was some bone.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you have like one hundred and forty bones

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<v Speaker 2>in your head, okay, and it was some bone like

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<v Speaker 2>behind my ear. I heard a crack and then I

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<v Speaker 2>just was like kind of mundane the rest of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, subdued oach, I've done it again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like that one song.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I did it again. I broke my fucking back.

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<v Speaker 1>I got lost in this shallow one. Oopsidhe brokad again?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, you definitely never told me that. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where I was. What was I doing? Was

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<v Speaker 1>I living in La? Why did I not care?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? You broke your neck which time?

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<v Speaker 1>Well I knew because we were together on Thanksgiving when

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<v Speaker 1>you broke your neck the first time, and I knew

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<v Speaker 1>something was wrong because you kept drinking beers and every

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<v Speaker 1>time you throw your head back, you be like something's wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>but you just you just kept drinking beers. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I had to go back to Marquette. Pall Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>then I had to go back to Marquete. And I

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<v Speaker 1>remember I got a call from your ex wife saying

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<v Speaker 1>your dad broke his neck.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that was bad.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the first time you really dropped a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of weight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Wow, I had atrophy. I couldn't like push right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about this story you told me

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<v Speaker 1>about the bitcoin guy. Can you tell that story?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh the first Yeah, long time ago that was, but

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<v Speaker 2>I had to be oh, at least twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And the guy lived in an old house where I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up and like built in the nineteen teens, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifteen or whatever. And it was winter and it

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<v Speaker 2>was like five degrees outside, and he said, I need

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<v Speaker 2>some wearing down in my house. So I went in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Every window was open. Apparently these bitcoin whatever, the servers,

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<v Speaker 2>they generated a ton of heat. Yeah, every window was

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<v Speaker 2>open and it was still like eighty degrees in there,

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<v Speaker 2>and he had cords running all over the house, plugged

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<v Speaker 2>in everywhere. I said, you're going to burn this place down. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he said this whing wasn't meant to run bitcoin bitcoin things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, what, by the way, what's a bit?

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<v Speaker 1>What the fuck are you talking?

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<v Speaker 2>You're mining? You're mining what? Yeah, I'm mining bitcoin? And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like god, he said, it's it's really it's like nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's cyber yeah, cyber pea. And I was just like okay, alright, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what what alternative universe are you living? In right, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a little did it? He said, you forgive me five

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<v Speaker 2>thouss a bucks, I'll make you a ton of money.

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<v Speaker 2>And I bet then it was I don't know, maybe eight, ten,

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen dollars, I don't know what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I just said, well, no, didn't he offer

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<v Speaker 1>to pay you in bitcoin if you did the wirings? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty or thirty bitcoin or something. Yeah, and now

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoins are worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Well, that's another great idea I had that fell through.

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<v Speaker 1>It's another almost another.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost almost almost invented that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, excuse me, yeah, should But basically, you said, when

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<v Speaker 1>you went in there, you thought that it would be

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<v Speaker 1>irresponsible to do the wiring.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, That's what I said. I said, I can't touch

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<v Speaker 2>this because if you keep up with what you're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll burn the place. The place is going to start

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<v Speaker 2>on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that way. Did it start on fire?

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<v Speaker 2>No? It never did, I don't. No. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>moved off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was gonna say, because he the bitcoin became

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<v Speaker 1>so valuable.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and then he moved out and got a place.

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<v Speaker 2>And I always meant to ask his sister how that ever,

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<v Speaker 2>turned out because I see her from time to time.

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<v Speaker 2>H yeah, and she's I just I forgot to ask her.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, to be one of the original people with a bitcoin,

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<v Speaker 1>that would have been crazy. Did you see that story

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<v Speaker 1>where that guy it's similar, like he had a password

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<v Speaker 1>basically in order to get a hold of your bitcoin,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to have a code, right, and he wrote

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<v Speaker 1>it on a piece of paper and then he somehow

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<v Speaker 1>lost the piece of paper and his bitcoin were worth

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<v Speaker 1>nine hundred million dollars and he was digging through a

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<v Speaker 1>dump for like years, really like just madman digging through

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<v Speaker 1>a dump.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we have an old neighbor that was in

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<v Speaker 2>the bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, yeah, she was. She was hanging out with like

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Branson. No, I'm not, but we did.

435
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<v Speaker 2>And then she.

436
00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:09.519
<v Speaker 1>Threw herself out a window in Shanghai, allegedly alleged.

437
00:25:09.319 --> 00:25:10.519
<v Speaker 2>One hundred story building.

438
00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to talk about a long fall. Well

439
00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:18.319
<v Speaker 1>the fall didn't kill her though, Yeah, I know it

440
00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:18.920
<v Speaker 1>was the gun.

441
00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:23.119
<v Speaker 2>It was a sudden stop. It was the what soun stop?

442
00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:24.920
<v Speaker 1>The suns? I don't get it.

443
00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:25.759
<v Speaker 2>Sudden stop.

444
00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:30.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh the sudden stop? Oh my god.

445
00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:30.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

446
00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:33.759
<v Speaker 1>No, I every person who's jumped off because you know,

447
00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:39.680
<v Speaker 1>they have that documentary called The Bridge where it's you

448
00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:43.880
<v Speaker 1>haven't heard of this documentary saddest, the saddest shit ever. No,

449
00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:45.839
<v Speaker 1>it's all these people that try to kill themselves off

450
00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:48.599
<v Speaker 1>the Golden Gate Bridge. And then they did a documentary

451
00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:52.359
<v Speaker 1>about the people who survived, and every single one of

452
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:55.759
<v Speaker 1>them said the second they jumped, they regretted it. Really, Yeah,

453
00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:01.359
<v Speaker 1>which is a crazy feeling because I'm like, if you're

454
00:26:01.400 --> 00:26:04.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna do the thing, you usually like commit to the thing.

455
00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:06.519
<v Speaker 1>But I guess that fall, like you're saying, when you're

456
00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:08.359
<v Speaker 1>going out of the tree, stand, a fall gives you

457
00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:10.799
<v Speaker 1>so much time to think clearly, oh what did I do?

458
00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah it does. It's like, yeah, it really I

459
00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:20.839
<v Speaker 2>couldn't believe how much went through my head. Yeah, in

460
00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:25.440
<v Speaker 2>a second and a half. Yeah, but I always I

461
00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:29.599
<v Speaker 2>was almost able to hang on, but there's my body.

462
00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:31.839
<v Speaker 2>It was too much for one arm to be around

463
00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:36.519
<v Speaker 2>the main branch. Yeah, yeah, it's but yeah, I can

464
00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:40.240
<v Speaker 2>imagine I couldn't do it. I guess if I was

465
00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:41.440
<v Speaker 2>in the twin towers, I.

466
00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Would, Well, yeah, that's not that's not a you know,

467
00:26:46.359 --> 00:26:48.599
<v Speaker 1>the only choice you have then is to make it

468
00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:49.319
<v Speaker 1>your choice.

469
00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I mean? Burn right or fly right?

470
00:26:53.599 --> 00:26:55.559
<v Speaker 1>Do I crumble and let this or do I try

471
00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:56.119
<v Speaker 1>and jump and.

472
00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Been a horrible decision? Well? Either way, yeah, either way.

473
00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Either way you're in a bad way. Yeah, you're down bad.

474
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Right, so your future future? Right? Oh well, laugh about it.

475
00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:18.519
<v Speaker 1>We gotta laugh otherwise we'll cry. Okay, okay, all right?

476
00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>What do you think of I know you've seen you've

477
00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:27.440
<v Speaker 1>obviously been an electrician for forty years? Forty seven years.

478
00:27:28.799 --> 00:27:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Don't you forget it?

479
00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:36.880
<v Speaker 1>This last one's all my fault. Forty seventh and final

480
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:37.759
<v Speaker 1>years my fault.

481
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's all right. It's all part of a learning curve.

482
00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Part of something.

483
00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Something, part of something machine, something machine.

484
00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:53.240
<v Speaker 1>What do you think of the younger generation coming in?

485
00:27:55.480 --> 00:28:00.720
<v Speaker 2>They have issues? We have a lot of issues when

486
00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:04.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, like you talk to young guys and they

487
00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:07.880
<v Speaker 2>look at you like you're a Martian or something, and

488
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:12.640
<v Speaker 2>I just should I text you? Yeah? Will that be better? Yeah?

489
00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Like will the message come across clearer?

490
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? But can't you like interpret the words I'm saying? Yeah?

491
00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:26.720
<v Speaker 2>You just yeah, it's just like conversation. No, there's no

492
00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:33.119
<v Speaker 2>such thing. Yeah, one word answers. It's just bizarre. Yeah,

493
00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:37.599
<v Speaker 2>you might find one out of ten that somehow got

494
00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:41.480
<v Speaker 2>social skills. Maybe their parents made them do that.

495
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:46.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but right, but other than that, it's

496
00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>looking bleak.

497
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:52.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's looking And the trades are the place to

498
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:57.839
<v Speaker 2>be right now. A guy could name name his price

499
00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:01.160
<v Speaker 2>on pretty much anything and you could make a great

500
00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:06.400
<v Speaker 2>living in the trades. But I don't know, they just

501
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:10.960
<v Speaker 2>seem like they're not with it mentally. Yeah, you know,

502
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:16.720
<v Speaker 2>like they don't have the drive drive. They just seem weak,

503
00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:17.880
<v Speaker 2>weak minded.

504
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:21.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but then they're also listening to like scream on music.

505
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, right, something's wrong.

506
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:29.559
<v Speaker 2>Turn that shit off.

507
00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Gon'll give your dad a hug for the first time.

508
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, I said, I told the guy work the

509
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:40.359
<v Speaker 2>Rick best back. Yeah, I told him I want they

510
00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:44.480
<v Speaker 2>had this music players just screaming and I'm just like,

511
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:46.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to talk to him and I can't hear

512
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:49.359
<v Speaker 2>over the radio, and I said, you got to turn

513
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:52.640
<v Speaker 2>that down. And I said, I said to Rick, I

514
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.400
<v Speaker 2>wonder what they do if I just pulled out my

515
00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:00.880
<v Speaker 2>thirty eight and shot it with my pistols. I blew

516
00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:06.200
<v Speaker 2>their radio right into the wall with the message you

517
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:06.799
<v Speaker 2>get across.

518
00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Then Yeah, you're like, I'm just matching the energetic vibes

519
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>of the music.

520
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:14.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just going to retarded like the guy's singing,

521
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:23.480
<v Speaker 2>just losing my mind like he told me to. Yeah exactly,

522
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:27.400
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what it's like. Like, this is crazy.

523
00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is everyone okay?

524
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:31.839
<v Speaker 2>And it's just like give you energy?

525
00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:36.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it's it's I think it makes people feel something,

526
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, because people are just so dulled, and I

527
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:42.039
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of that is technology and being on

528
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>your phone all the time. People just feel completely dulled.

529
00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:48.000
<v Speaker 1>So they got to have music that makes him feel Yeah, and.

530
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Then slaming monsters. Yeah, slaming monsters listen to that, they

531
00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:55.480
<v Speaker 2>probably go home and pass out.

532
00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:00.799
<v Speaker 1>It's like a three day bench quent on their child

533
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:01.759
<v Speaker 1>support payments.

534
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, oh no, it was the bank account.

535
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, holday's work just down the drain.

536
00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:19.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah okay.

537
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>So you have a few things that you say to

538
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:22.759
<v Speaker 1>me often that I want to talk about. One of

539
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:26.799
<v Speaker 1>them is this too shall pass? How has that gotten

540
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>you through things in life?

541
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, when you're not, you don't like what you're doing,

542
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:37.440
<v Speaker 2>you just have to give it. I hate to waste

543
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:41.119
<v Speaker 2>a way any more time. Right, that's the that's the

544
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:44.319
<v Speaker 2>sad part. But you have to put your mind in

545
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:48.599
<v Speaker 2>a place that this too, shall pass. So I don't

546
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:51.720
<v Speaker 2>like what's happening in my life right now, but it's

547
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:58.400
<v Speaker 2>not forever, and I don't have forever. So I want

548
00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:05.119
<v Speaker 2>this to pass and go to greener fields, greener pastures.

549
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Greener pastures. And how's that worked out for you?

550
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:08.039
<v Speaker 2>Great?

551
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Have you found a greenoper super?

552
00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:12.119
<v Speaker 2>I saw one.

553
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.519
<v Speaker 1>I saw one on the the way to help.

554
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:23.720
<v Speaker 2>No. It was ah, like a grasshoppers ate all the grass.

555
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Grasshoppers eat grass.

556
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:32.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's how they they're like a plague grasshoppers. They

557
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:35.880
<v Speaker 2>eat everything. Oh really yeah, they live on greens.

558
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:37.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh I didn't know they ate grass.

559
00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:44.599
<v Speaker 2>They ate everything. They're like, no, yeah, they eat anything green.

560
00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's why they're green. Well, yeah it has to be.

561
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:54.519
<v Speaker 2>They can be green. Yeah. I used to torture them

562
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:55.240
<v Speaker 2>when I was a kid.

563
00:32:55.519 --> 00:33:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh good, you're just passing it on because your siblings

564
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:01.480
<v Speaker 1>were torturing you.

565
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:02.799
<v Speaker 2>You were torturing.

566
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>It's just trickle down economics of torture.

567
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in a twelve effect.

568
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:12.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what was it like growing up with twelve siblings

569
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>or eleven?

570
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:13.559
<v Speaker 2>So it was awesome?

571
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was awesome.

572
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:18.680
<v Speaker 2>I went traded for the world. Yeah, I really wouldn't.

573
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:24.839
<v Speaker 2>You got such a You learned everything, like, you learned

574
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:28.440
<v Speaker 2>how to work hard. You learned how to fight.

575
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:30.599
<v Speaker 1>That's a big one.

576
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:34.480
<v Speaker 2>That's the big one. You learned how to survive with little.

577
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:40.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean I saw what was it something on oh

578
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:45.119
<v Speaker 2>someone sent me something on YouTube or something, and it

579
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:49.920
<v Speaker 2>said that kids from the sixties and seventeens six sixties

580
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:58.359
<v Speaker 2>and seventies were not parented better. They were just given

581
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:04.119
<v Speaker 2>so much slack to screw up on their own that

582
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:08.960
<v Speaker 2>and figure life out. You You couldn't always run to

583
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:11.559
<v Speaker 2>the helicopter mom or dad. There wasn't one.

584
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were paying attention to you.

585
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:19.320
<v Speaker 2>They were not paying attention. So you learned by trial

586
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.599
<v Speaker 2>and error. And not only that. I really think that

587
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:26.119
<v Speaker 2>they thought, well, if we lose one, we'll have another. Yeah,

588
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:34.519
<v Speaker 2>how to fire a couple of twins.

589
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:40.079
<v Speaker 1>India and you guys all developed a really strong sense

590
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:40.559
<v Speaker 1>of humor.

591
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, all right. Humor was huge because nothing was funny.

592
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:52.880
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing. If you can't laugh at what the

593
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:55.840
<v Speaker 2>horrors that you are not horrors, But yeah, I mean

594
00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:59.760
<v Speaker 2>it's you know you if you can't laugh at yourself.

595
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:05.039
<v Speaker 2>There's what's the sense. Yeah, you're just going to be

596
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:07.519
<v Speaker 2>a that'd be down in your whole life. Yeah, so

597
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:13.480
<v Speaker 2>learn to learn to laugh at yourself and just be

598
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:17.320
<v Speaker 2>and laugh at others. Even in the worst, worst things

599
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:20.320
<v Speaker 2>that happen. You can make jokes out of it. And

600
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:26.719
<v Speaker 2>I think that their country has become so ah crazy

601
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:32.159
<v Speaker 2>with they just can't You can't tell a joke because

602
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:37.440
<v Speaker 2>oh that might defend someone. Well you know what good offended? Yeah,

603
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:38.199
<v Speaker 2>it's good for you.

604
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:40.519
<v Speaker 1>Yea development.

605
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:44.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he builds some character and then and then pause

606
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:49.960
<v Speaker 2>and think, yeah, h I don't like that guy. I

607
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:51.639
<v Speaker 2>don't like stupid jokes.

608
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:53.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't like it at all.

609
00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:57.639
<v Speaker 2>Are they'll all gather on. Yeah, I like this guy.

610
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:02.480
<v Speaker 2>He laughs at everything. Yeah, A smile draws them in. Yeah,

611
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:07.440
<v Speaker 2>a frown. Let's go the other way.

612
00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, tell me about when you guys built the homemade gokrt.

613
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:20.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh we had a butt so the homemade go cart.

614
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:26.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, I was nine years old and we built

615
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:31.079
<v Speaker 2>the go kart. It had rope steering and it had

616
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:34.599
<v Speaker 2>the little lawnmower tires on the front that we cut

617
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:38.239
<v Speaker 2>some axles out of. And then we took nails and

618
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:41.920
<v Speaker 2>bent them over to hold the axles on. And then

619
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:46.360
<v Speaker 2>the bat and back had a five horse Briggs motor

620
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:50.840
<v Speaker 2>with the chain drive on the back tires and those

621
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:55.880
<v Speaker 2>were lawnmower tires but bigger, and it was a change lawn.

622
00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Were you partner up?

623
00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:01.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh, we'd go around the subdivision and then say hey,

624
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:07.159
<v Speaker 2>you got a lot more tires we can have? It

625
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:14.119
<v Speaker 2>was like yeah, pretty much fetch and sketch ah. So yeah.

626
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:20.119
<v Speaker 2>Rope steering just a wood seat, no brakes, no breaks,

627
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:24.840
<v Speaker 2>the story in front of the story, no breaks, and

628
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:29.719
<v Speaker 2>it was no gas pedal, full throttle, full throttles, so

629
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:32.519
<v Speaker 2>you'd have to put it on a block in the

630
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:37.239
<v Speaker 2>back of you know, like a wood block. You start

631
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:40.159
<v Speaker 2>the motor, it's running full blast, and then you kick

632
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:43.760
<v Speaker 2>it off the block. So they said, well, who wants

633
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:48.199
<v Speaker 2>to test it out? And I said, well I will.

634
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:52.000
<v Speaker 2>And I said, well, how am I going to stop?

635
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:55.280
<v Speaker 2>And they said, well, you go down to the end

636
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:59.920
<v Speaker 2>of the road and at the end of the row

637
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:03.239
<v Speaker 2>there's like a ditch and then a hump a jump

638
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:06.679
<v Speaker 2>and he said, well.

639
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:09.800
<v Speaker 1>If you make it to there, Which brother was this?

640
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:18.000
<v Speaker 2>No brothers, this was just neighbor neighbors and I saw

641
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:23.320
<v Speaker 2>I said, okay, so I thought, and I said, so,

642
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:27.039
<v Speaker 2>how am I going to stop? And they said, well,

643
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:28.880
<v Speaker 2>we only put a little bit of gas in this,

644
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Like I'd run out of gas. Well, by the time

645
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:36.320
<v Speaker 2>I hit the first curve, by the time I hit

646
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:39.039
<v Speaker 2>the first roll, there was a tea in a row

647
00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:45.559
<v Speaker 2>to the left. I was doing like seven. The thing

648
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:49.159
<v Speaker 2>burned out. It burned out on them tires for like

649
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:54.519
<v Speaker 2>one hundred feet and then then it just grabbed and

650
00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:57.679
<v Speaker 2>took off, and I thought, no way, I'm going to

651
00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:01.199
<v Speaker 2>kill myself if I keep going. And but little did

652
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:05.159
<v Speaker 2>I know that they took this seat off because the

653
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:09.760
<v Speaker 2>seat was loose in the back beat the seat leaned

654
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:13.400
<v Speaker 2>up against the motor. Yeah, well they took the shroud

655
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:18.159
<v Speaker 2>was off the motor, and so you had to open flywheel.

656
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:24.760
<v Speaker 2>And I little did I know that they took the

657
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:27.639
<v Speaker 2>seat off. I didn't see him do that, but didn't matter.

658
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:35.480
<v Speaker 2>It was destined for failure anyway. And with the g

659
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:41.960
<v Speaker 2>force of the thing taken off, I leaned back and

660
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:48.039
<v Speaker 2>that flywheel dug a hole in my back. Yeah. So

661
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:54.360
<v Speaker 2>at the first turn, I thought this, I gotta crash

662
00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:57.800
<v Speaker 2>this thing. Yeah, so I it was a deep ditch

663
00:39:58.039 --> 00:39:59.760
<v Speaker 2>on the other side of the t in the road

664
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:03.920
<v Speaker 2>that so I just crashed it. And I remember sliding

665
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:10.159
<v Speaker 2>across the grass, face first, sliding through the grass, and

666
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:14.000
<v Speaker 2>then I got up and I, oh my god, that

667
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:14.880
<v Speaker 2>was stupid.

668
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:19.519
<v Speaker 1>But you have that big scar on your back from that,

669
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:19.880
<v Speaker 1>don't you.

670
00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Yes, it dug quite a big hole in my back. Yeah,

671
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:26.800
<v Speaker 2>and it put a ton of stitches in there. They

672
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:30.280
<v Speaker 2>stitched it from out from inside out.

673
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

674
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:32.079
<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

675
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so Virgin Voyage, the Virgin.

676
00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:39.559
<v Speaker 2>Voyage total failure.

677
00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:43.239
<v Speaker 1>It's like the challenge.

678
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:46.679
<v Speaker 2>So the worst part was I had my church shirt on.

679
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:50.880
<v Speaker 2>There was a shirt with a bunch of ducks on it.

680
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know it from the picture, yes, yes.

681
00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:58.440
<v Speaker 2>And I had that shirt on and I'm like. The

682
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:03.280
<v Speaker 2>neighbor kids said, hey, your back's bleeding really bad, and

683
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:06.519
<v Speaker 2>I said, oh no, my church shirt.

684
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, the ducks.

685
00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:15.400
<v Speaker 2>The ducks are bleeding. Must have killed the ducks back. Yeah.

686
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I remember running to it like it was yesterday. I

687
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:24.199
<v Speaker 2>remember running through the yards, run into the house and

688
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:29.320
<v Speaker 2>my mom was going grocery shopping and I was somebody

689
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:32.159
<v Speaker 2>saw me running in the blood, fall over my back

690
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:37.159
<v Speaker 2>and they called the ambulance and uh, I was laying

691
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 2>on the kitchen floor and my mom came home and

692
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:43.800
<v Speaker 2>she was fit to be tied, not mad. She was

693
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:47.199
<v Speaker 2>just like, that's all she said is Judas Priest, and

694
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:51.239
<v Speaker 2>then collapsed and slid down the wall. Collapsed. I said, Ah,

695
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:53.840
<v Speaker 2>don't worry, nothing hurts.

696
00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Don't worry about I don't worry about nothing hurts. Yeah.

697
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:00.719
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I don't know if from that or

698
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:03.719
<v Speaker 1>just this is something that you've developed. In general, you

699
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:08.519
<v Speaker 1>have a strange relationship with pain, Like you go through

700
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:14.039
<v Speaker 1>objectively horrifying things and you don't seem to be affected. Yeah,

701
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:17.079
<v Speaker 1>what is that? I wonder if that's like a dissociation

702
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:19.320
<v Speaker 1>tactic you learned early in life to not make your

703
00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:26.000
<v Speaker 1>mom upset. Story, I'm good, the ducks are not goods.

704
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:29.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

705
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:31.559
<v Speaker 1>Like, I'll never forget when I was a kid and

706
00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:33.159
<v Speaker 1>you walked in the house when you were fixing.

707
00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:35.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you.

708
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Were fixing the fence and I, I.

709
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:41.599
<v Speaker 2>Have never seen off the roof and I landed on

710
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:42.159
<v Speaker 2>the fence.

711
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:45.960
<v Speaker 1>There you go. I I was very young. I don't

712
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:47.800
<v Speaker 1>know how old, but all I remember is I walked

713
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:50.119
<v Speaker 1>in and you had blood running down the whole entire

714
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:52.440
<v Speaker 1>back of your leg. I think your butt sheeet got

715
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:53.480
<v Speaker 1>snagged or something.

716
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it ripped a post. Yeah, like a bruise

717
00:42:57.599 --> 00:42:59.880
<v Speaker 2>that was so deep. I still have like a dimple

718
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:03.159
<v Speaker 2>my ass. I don't have anymore.

719
00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:04.760
<v Speaker 1>But you were bleeding.

720
00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:10.239
<v Speaker 2>It was bleeding out of of violent bruise.

721
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:12.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Yeah, you said, I remember you like, go get

722
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:15.920
<v Speaker 1>me a brag or whatever, and I was like yeah,

723
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:17.960
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, no, we don't have time for that.

724
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:20.000
<v Speaker 1>You gotta go get the right.

725
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Just do what I say.

726
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Enough enough with the emotions, Yeah, just.

727
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Stop the weaning wound. Just skip me what I want. Yeah,

728
00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:30.920
<v Speaker 2>get me a cold cloth. Yeah.

729
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:36.119
<v Speaker 1>And then your hands too. You got in that fight.

730
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:40.559
<v Speaker 2>I remember you to tractor battery fell on my hand.

731
00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's the lie you told.

732
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Us, But that really did happen.

733
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, you got after you.

734
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:48.920
<v Speaker 2>I tried to lift the battery out of the tractor.

735
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:51.199
<v Speaker 1>And it fell because you had gotten in a fight

736
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:51.840
<v Speaker 1>the night before.

737
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and my hand was broken broken, I couldn't hold

738
00:43:57.039 --> 00:43:57.599
<v Speaker 2>it up. Yeah.

739
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:02.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it'll happened your smaller tones. But you've got in

740
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:03.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fights in your day.

741
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:05.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's old.

742
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's old. We don't do that anymore. Nom it's

743
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:13.320
<v Speaker 1>weird behavior. Yeah, very but why do you think you

744
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:17.639
<v Speaker 1>did that? Were you angry secretly? No, you just both

745
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:20.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't like I smile too much, so you're like, I'll

746
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:21.840
<v Speaker 1>show you not a smile.

747
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:29.679
<v Speaker 2>Laugh that. Yeah, I'm not laughing. Said something to laugh about? Yeah,

748
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:32.159
<v Speaker 2>a little O piquet.

749
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:34.320
<v Speaker 1>One punch knockout.

750
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

751
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:39.199
<v Speaker 1>Another phrase who say all the time that I love

752
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:41.280
<v Speaker 1>is worry is a wasted emotion.

753
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:47.000
<v Speaker 2>It is, Everyone does it, but it's wasted because you

754
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:49.400
<v Speaker 2>cannot do anything about that emotion.

755
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:52.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, you can't do anything about the situation you're worrying

756
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:57.559
<v Speaker 1>about exactly, and the worry is just its own manufactured Yeah.

757
00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:01.960
<v Speaker 1>It's also like self like self poison. Right, But do

758
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:05.599
<v Speaker 1>you find yourself as you age worrying less or do

759
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:10.039
<v Speaker 1>you worry more? Or the exact same? And it's just

760
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:11.280
<v Speaker 1>a phrase you say, and you.

761
00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Don't know less. I think less worry, there's really I

762
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:23.880
<v Speaker 2>mean honestly, Well, like everyone when I was going for

763
00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:29.760
<v Speaker 2>the heart surgery, everybody was, aren't you worried? I like

764
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:33.559
<v Speaker 2>worried about what? Yeah? You think I'm doing this to

765
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:37.920
<v Speaker 2>myself for fun? Am I am? I doing the surgery.

766
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:38.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

767
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:41.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if I was doing it, i'd worry. But I'm

768
00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:44.920
<v Speaker 2>not doing it. This is in God's hands. Yeah, it's

769
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:49.039
<v Speaker 2>God's hands. And I hope he trained that surgeon well yeah,

770
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:51.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, I hope he gave him everything he needs

771
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:55.239
<v Speaker 2>to get me better. Yeah, but worry. I did not

772
00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:56.360
<v Speaker 2>worry at all.

773
00:45:56.760 --> 00:45:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

774
00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:01.960
<v Speaker 2>And people thought you're nuts, Yeah, like nuts, you are.

775
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think you had a good dissociative state around it,

776
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:09.039
<v Speaker 1>like you once you got past the anger of it,

777
00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:12.800
<v Speaker 1>you were kind of just like, whatever it is, it is.

778
00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:14.519
<v Speaker 2>Is what it is.

779
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:15.239
<v Speaker 1>What am I going to do?

780
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:17.800
<v Speaker 2>It was like the lightning storm at mac Lake.

781
00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, remember when I almost got struck by lightning yesterday.

782
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:23.199
<v Speaker 2>That was close.

783
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:25.239
<v Speaker 1>That was crazy.

784
00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:31.000
<v Speaker 2>You think God God shot you? Yeah, it was a

785
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:31.639
<v Speaker 2>god shot.

786
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:32.679
<v Speaker 1>It was a god shot.

787
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:33.199
<v Speaker 2>I was.

788
00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:36.039
<v Speaker 1>We were selling my car yesterday. I'm down in Florida, obviously,

789
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and the guy needed something that was in the house

790
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:41.280
<v Speaker 1>and a storm had broken out and I was running

791
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:44.440
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not kidding you. The lightning. I've never heard

792
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:45.599
<v Speaker 1>lightning closer that.

793
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:50.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, I have, but yeah, well but that was really close.

794
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:54.559
<v Speaker 2>It was probably one hundred feet yeah, right, like right,

795
00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:58.679
<v Speaker 2>across the street. Yeah, and I could your face when

796
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:02.360
<v Speaker 2>you looked up at you. What did I do?

797
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:04.599
<v Speaker 1>That would be my luck to get struck down in

798
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:08.000
<v Speaker 1>home beach. I think I could come back for forty

799
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:08.480
<v Speaker 1>eight hours.

800
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:11.639
<v Speaker 2>And they're like, no, no, no, no, here's here's a

801
00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:12.880
<v Speaker 2>nice both of it.

802
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Oh, my god, tell me about the macli like

803
00:47:18.519 --> 00:47:19.199
<v Speaker 1>lightning story.

804
00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh, we were fishing up on the West End when

805
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:26.679
<v Speaker 2>we're canoeing. Obviously they were illuminum canoes with aluminum paddles,

806
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:32.519
<v Speaker 2>and a storm rolled in like fast. We're catching tons

807
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:34.880
<v Speaker 2>of fish, though, so we waited right to the end,

808
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:38.360
<v Speaker 2>and then by the time the storm came in, there

809
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:43.320
<v Speaker 2>was lightning bolts and it was raining like you couldn't

810
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:52.760
<v Speaker 2>see twenty feet. So I'm paddling and I'm like, what's

811
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:55.239
<v Speaker 2>the sense. I don't know where I'm paddling too. Yeah,

812
00:47:55.360 --> 00:48:00.880
<v Speaker 2>so why so I My brother had saved up at

813
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:05.159
<v Speaker 2>the time. He smoked Marlboro and he saved up one

814
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:10.119
<v Speaker 2>thousand coupons, and so he got some Marlborough rein gear

815
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:14.360
<v Speaker 2>and he was bragging about it. And he was in

816
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:17.800
<v Speaker 2>the front of the canoe and the water was running

817
00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:22.199
<v Speaker 2>down his back because the rainer really didn't fit him,

818
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:25.679
<v Speaker 2>and it was going down the crack of his ass.

819
00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:31.480
<v Speaker 2>I just started laughing. I couldn't steer, I couldn't do anything.

820
00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I was laughing so hard. I figured, I don't have

821
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:39.320
<v Speaker 2>control here. I have zero control. I don't know where

822
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm going. It's lightning storms in the lightning, I swear

823
00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:49.360
<v Speaker 2>was one bolt hit like twenty feet from our canoe,

824
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:51.800
<v Speaker 2>and the whole canoe lifted out of the water.

825
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

826
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:55.519
<v Speaker 2>And then it plopped back down. And I'm trying to

827
00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:58.440
<v Speaker 2>bail because you know how a canoe when water gets

828
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:01.199
<v Speaker 2>in it, you go from side to side and it

829
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:05.000
<v Speaker 2>starts to get real rocky. So I'm trying to bail out.

830
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:08.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm laughing, and I said Tom, quit paddling. We don't

831
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:12.000
<v Speaker 2>know where we're going. And the other canoe they were

832
00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:17.639
<v Speaker 2>just horrified and me, me and my brother Tom were

833
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:23.159
<v Speaker 2>just laughing profusely. We couldn't stop. It was like probably

834
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:28.519
<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes of like fall down laughter. But you couldn't

835
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:31.400
<v Speaker 2>fall down, obviously, because you're in a canoe. But we

836
00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:38.400
<v Speaker 2>just couldn't stop. And then we somehow we've found land,

837
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:43.280
<v Speaker 2>and then the other canoe. So I'm sleeping here tonight,

838
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:47.840
<v Speaker 2>and I said I'm not. I said, no, I'm not. Well,

839
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:51.760
<v Speaker 2>are you gonna just go next to some dead fall

840
00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:55.119
<v Speaker 2>and call it? Yeah? You're soaking wet, you know, even

841
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:59.719
<v Speaker 2>though it's eighty degrees seventy degrees outside, it won't be

842
00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:04.360
<v Speaker 2>that for long and the night comes you'll be Yeah, no, stop,

843
00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:07.320
<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm just gonna wait for this to break.

844
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:14.159
<v Speaker 2>It's going to break. And you know, they the other

845
00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:20.079
<v Speaker 2>three people still they still wonder if I'm touched.

846
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:23.119
<v Speaker 1>The answer is yes.

847
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:27.679
<v Speaker 2>Well Tom was laughing to it. I thank god he

848
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:29.800
<v Speaker 2>was laughing because I couldn't stop laughing.

849
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:33.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, there's something about you where when things are

850
00:50:33.239 --> 00:50:34.920
<v Speaker 1>really really bad, all you do is laugh.

851
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, what are you gonna do? Cry? Or panic? Yeah?

852
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Panic's no good. Yeah. Last in the woods once and

853
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:48.559
<v Speaker 2>I panicked, And as soon as I stopped and sat

854
00:50:48.679 --> 00:50:52.280
<v Speaker 2>down and calmed down, I thought, what do I need

855
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:57.079
<v Speaker 2>to get out of here? Just listen? Listen. You can

856
00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:01.079
<v Speaker 2>hear cars on a road five mile house from here, right,

857
00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:05.840
<v Speaker 2>so just listed for the cars. Yeah, and then walk

858
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:07.920
<v Speaker 2>that way. Yeah you'll get out.

859
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Where'd you get lost in the woods?

860
00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Voca?

861
00:51:11.559 --> 00:51:13.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's not a good woods to get lost. And

862
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:15.920
<v Speaker 1>it's also not many cars up there.

863
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:20.280
<v Speaker 2>So you really know, but you have to be the accident.

864
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:25.639
<v Speaker 2>Everything's good, like it's almost like hunting. You don't panic

865
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:26.679
<v Speaker 2>until you're done.

866
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Shooting right then you.

867
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:33.239
<v Speaker 2>Just then you're like fall on the ground.

868
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Okay, we're going to talk about me

869
00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:49.159
<v Speaker 1>as a kid. What's one thing you wish I'd worry

870
00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:50.079
<v Speaker 1>less about.

871
00:51:51.960 --> 00:52:03.039
<v Speaker 2>You? Mmm? I don't know. Do you worry? Yeah, well,

872
00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:04.800
<v Speaker 2>you worry about your future.

873
00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Have we ever talked.

874
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:11.639
<v Speaker 2>You worry about me? No?

875
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I mean if I think about when you like, yeah,

876
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:18.599
<v Speaker 1>that's that's I thought. I can't go near. But I

877
00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:22.840
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about you. No, I don't love that you

878
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:26.039
<v Speaker 1>live alone in that big house and you putts around.

879
00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I know, but you putts around with heavy machinery and

880
00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:33.320
<v Speaker 1>you know you change out of your foot wide open.

881
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:35.360
<v Speaker 1>No you're not. You change on.

882
00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:39.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm a lot more careful than I used to be.

883
00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Remember that tractor I used to have, and the batteries

884
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:45.599
<v Speaker 2>on instead, so I'd roll it down the hill. I

885
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:47.960
<v Speaker 2>pushed the tires and then jump on the track and

886
00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:52.599
<v Speaker 2>s and gear. Yeah yeah that No, that's stupid.

887
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dumb.

888
00:52:56.239 --> 00:52:56.280
<v Speaker 2>What.

889
00:52:57.840 --> 00:52:59.920
<v Speaker 1>What's something I did growing up that still makes you laugh?

890
00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:07.480
<v Speaker 2>M Oh, the times you jumped in the pool in Florida. What.

891
00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know this story.

892
00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You we were walking out, You're like four years old. Yeah, maybe,

893
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:22.679
<v Speaker 2>And we didn't have any preserver on your wings or anything.

894
00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:31.000
<v Speaker 2>And I'm walking out still with my clothes on, shorts

895
00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:34.960
<v Speaker 2>and wallet in the pocket, keys in the pocket, and

896
00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:38.400
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, you just whip out and jump

897
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:39.920
<v Speaker 2>in the deep end of the pool.

898
00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Did I have a suit on?

899
00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:52.639
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and we're so I I didn't take anything off.

900
00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:56.039
<v Speaker 2>I just dove in after you, and you were standing

901
00:53:56.159 --> 00:54:00.800
<v Speaker 2>on the bottom, laughing with bubbles coming out of your mouth,

902
00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:03.840
<v Speaker 2>and I'm thinking, she's going to take a breath real quick.

903
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:09.559
<v Speaker 2>I grabbed you, and I fireballed off the bottom and

904
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:14.239
<v Speaker 2>got you up in the air, and I was like,

905
00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:22.400
<v Speaker 2>you idiots more you were that close to taking a

906
00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:25.320
<v Speaker 2>breath because you're laughing, and I see the bubbles coming

907
00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:27.679
<v Speaker 2>out of your lungs, and I'm like, she's going to

908
00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:30.960
<v Speaker 2>take a breath any second now. And I whipped you up.

909
00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I don't even know that story.

910
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was one thing I laugh about it now,

911
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:42.079
<v Speaker 2>but I was scared, scared shitless. In fact, they're still

912
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:43.000
<v Speaker 2>pooping that pool.

913
00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:49.079
<v Speaker 1>Wait. My favorite story is when we were in Canada

914
00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:51.039
<v Speaker 1>and I was mouthing off because I was trying to

915
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:54.440
<v Speaker 1>go on that you're.

916
00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:59.679
<v Speaker 2>Trying to impress the boys, probably like twelve, maybe maybe

917
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Bobby nine.

918
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I don't think nine. I think ten twelve.

919
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:07.039
<v Speaker 2>Because I started taking you to Canada when you were twelve.

920
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I had to be eleven eleven, I had

921
00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:11.400
<v Speaker 1>to be eleven. It was the year before.

922
00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, some ten years old and yeah, kind of pressed

923
00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:18.679
<v Speaker 2>the boys. Yeah, at three in the no, you said.

924
00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:20.440
<v Speaker 1>To me, af your mouth off to me one more time,

925
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:22.360
<v Speaker 1>you're going in the lake, and I was like, you

926
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:23.840
<v Speaker 1>math after me one more.

927
00:55:26.039 --> 00:55:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, I've never picked you up by that. Best about

928
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:34.519
<v Speaker 2>the look on your face, like total surprise, betrayal.

929
00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I've been betrayed by a man for the first time,

930
00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:39.159
<v Speaker 1>but certainly not the last.

931
00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I just remember that look on your face, like,

932
00:55:42.679 --> 00:55:46.840
<v Speaker 2>oh I did it now? Shoot I pissed him off?

933
00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh man?

934
00:55:51.119 --> 00:55:54.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when did you realize I was funny.

935
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:56.440
<v Speaker 2>When you were born?

936
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:02.559
<v Speaker 1>From the look you what the hell is that? I

937
00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:04.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like I was not a funny kid.

938
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:08.400
<v Speaker 2>You were funny. You were funny because you were you

939
00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:12.880
<v Speaker 2>were very funny. You were funny. I don't know if

940
00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:17.199
<v Speaker 2>you were funny on purpose, funny just because you're funny,

941
00:56:18.760 --> 00:56:19.719
<v Speaker 2>you were just a goof.

942
00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:22.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I didn't. I didn't. I was never like funny

943
00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:25.480
<v Speaker 1>in school. Like, I didn't have friends, I didn't have

944
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have anyfluence I got was. I didn't find

945
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:34.920
<v Speaker 1>my funny. I think until later in life, like fifteen sixteen. Well,

946
00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:39.079
<v Speaker 1>when I finally started drinking. Oh I see, I had

947
00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:40.519
<v Speaker 1>the confidence to become funny.

948
00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:44.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, now you've got the confidence become funny and you

949
00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:44.679
<v Speaker 2>don't drink.

950
00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I know what a nightmare and what fresh hell.

951
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Nightmare all the same.

952
00:56:55.000 --> 00:57:02.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it rolls into the next literally. Okay, what's a

953
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:05.079
<v Speaker 1>misdirect in life that felt like punishment at the time

954
00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:06.679
<v Speaker 1>but turned out to be a blessing?

955
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:20.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, no comment, come on a punishment at the time. Well,

956
00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:27.599
<v Speaker 2>I can think about a couple of them. First divorce, Yeah,

957
00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:33.480
<v Speaker 2>first divorce seemed like a punishment but was a blessing

958
00:57:34.840 --> 00:57:39.639
<v Speaker 2>because I probably wouldn't be here. Yeah, I'd be dead

959
00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:40.360
<v Speaker 2>or in jail.

960
00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:43.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think probably dead. She was going to kill you.

961
00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:46.440
<v Speaker 1>She wanted to. She texted you that right before she

962
00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:49.440
<v Speaker 1>killed herself. She said, I've got a gun and I'm coming.

963
00:57:50.239 --> 00:57:56.639
<v Speaker 2>Remember that. Well, No, that wasn't And she tried before that,

964
00:57:56.840 --> 00:58:07.880
<v Speaker 2>but I stopped her. Yeah, uh yeah. And then when

965
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:10.760
<v Speaker 2>I was in partnership in the electrical business with lou

966
00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:17.079
<v Speaker 2>Jos two thousand and eight, that seemed like a punishment.

967
00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:22.639
<v Speaker 2>The economy was messed, and that seemed like a punishment

968
00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:27.119
<v Speaker 2>but turned out to be great. Yeah, because you started

969
00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:32.000
<v Speaker 2>so sometimes I guess it's your attitude. Yeah, I mean,

970
00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:37.599
<v Speaker 2>if you if you're if you can be like rock

971
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:44.400
<v Speaker 2>solid and I'm not gonna let this burn me. I'm

972
00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:47.239
<v Speaker 2>not gonna let this drive me down into the dumps.

973
00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:53.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna rise above and become something. Just get the

974
00:58:53.719 --> 00:58:57.440
<v Speaker 2>gumption to do what you need to do. Yeah, and

975
00:58:57.599 --> 00:59:05.599
<v Speaker 2>don't don't waiver. Yeah, And I mean, honestly, that's about all.

976
00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:09.880
<v Speaker 1>That's it. When you're like outsider looking in at my life.

977
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:16.199
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything you wish I was doing differently? Well,

978
00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:17.280
<v Speaker 1>all of it.

979
00:59:18.280 --> 00:59:24.760
<v Speaker 2>No, You're you're chasing your dream. Yeah, right, I fell

980
00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:28.760
<v Speaker 2>into mind. Mm hmmm, I fell into mind you're chasing

981
00:59:28.840 --> 00:59:36.679
<v Speaker 2>yours and that's really Uh, that's so special in life

982
00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:41.280
<v Speaker 2>that you have the opportunity to keep chasing it and

983
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:48.480
<v Speaker 2>you keep it up. Eventually you'll you'll make it because

984
00:59:48.559 --> 00:59:58.440
<v Speaker 2>you are determined. Yeah, determined something, there's something, alright, alright.

985
00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:00.719
<v Speaker 2>I love you, I love your comfort, and you're a

986
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:05.039
<v Speaker 2>really good person. You know, you wouldn't know that how

987
01:00:05.519 --> 01:00:08.880
<v Speaker 2>good of a person she is unless you knew her.

988
01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:15.239
<v Speaker 1>On my side of defense, yeah, you wouldn't know it

989
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:16.840
<v Speaker 1>because she doesn't act like a good person.

990
01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:23.159
<v Speaker 2>But no, she is, and she can. She can make

991
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:25.840
<v Speaker 2>friends with anybody if she wants.

992
01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:27.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't want.

993
01:00:28.199 --> 01:00:32.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, yeah you the women's, the women's and

994
01:00:32.679 --> 01:00:33.719
<v Speaker 2>the lady they want you.

995
01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:38.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Oh man, Speaking of which, we gotta go. We

996
01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:40.800
<v Speaker 1>gotta go hang out with our lady friends. Oh I see,

997
01:00:41.159 --> 01:00:41.559
<v Speaker 1>I see.

998
01:00:42.239 --> 01:00:44.920
<v Speaker 2>I guess that's gonna work real well, let me see

999
01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:45.199
<v Speaker 2>if they.

1000
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Text you back. Let's see.

1001
01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:52.760
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, no, we love you.

1002
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Here great, she said, we're gonna go to Wellington. We're

1003
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:02.199
<v Speaker 1>gonna grab a bite at the Stay and they both

1004
01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:04.679
<v Speaker 1>live at the Polo Club. So Wellington is on the

1005
01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:06.800
<v Speaker 1>way to West Palm, So I'll just bring my bag.

1006
01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:10.360
<v Speaker 1>We'll go there and then you're gonna uber back. Maybe

1007
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:15.360
<v Speaker 1>lift Yeah, lift. I love you, Dad, I love you too.

1008
01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:17.119
<v Speaker 1>You're the best. Thanks for doing the pod.

1009
01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, hours up, Yeah, it's.

1010
01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Been an hour and fifteen minutes. What the time flies

1011
01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:25.480
<v Speaker 1>when you're with me?

1012
01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Huh?

1013
01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Time a piece of shit?

1014
01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:31.599
<v Speaker 2>I love you, I love you.

1015
01:01:31.679 --> 01:01:36.559
<v Speaker 1>Too, the artist way you guys, we're getting close to

1016
01:01:36.639 --> 01:01:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the end. We are getting close to the end. Best

1017
01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:44.639
<v Speaker 1>is I would bet there's two of us left, especially

1018
01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:46.440
<v Speaker 1>after I took that break. I bet the four that

1019
01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:48.599
<v Speaker 1>were there fell off. But you know what I said,

1020
01:01:48.639 --> 01:01:50.360
<v Speaker 1>even if it's just one person I'm doing this for,

1021
01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:53.199
<v Speaker 1>I would keep doing it. And I'm going to keep

1022
01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:56.719
<v Speaker 1>my word. This is week eleven of a twelve week book,

1023
01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:02.880
<v Speaker 1>so we are almost Dune, two weeks left, recovering a

1024
01:02:03.039 --> 01:02:07.280
<v Speaker 1>sense of autonomy. An artists cash flow is typically erratic.

1025
01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Creach heard that the market may be rotten even when

1026
01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:14.679
<v Speaker 1>the work is great. So this is something that I'm

1027
01:02:14.679 --> 01:02:17.519
<v Speaker 1>struggling with. Everyone in la is struggling with right now.

1028
01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Like you can make the best TV show, and you

1029
01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:24.119
<v Speaker 1>can write the best movie, and you can do you know,

1030
01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:27.199
<v Speaker 1>some really excellent work, but Hollywood is going out of business,

1031
01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:29.360
<v Speaker 1>all right, Hollywood's having to going out of business sale

1032
01:02:29.360 --> 01:02:30.719
<v Speaker 1>because the jig is up on the fact that it

1033
01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:32.679
<v Speaker 1>was run by a bunch of fucking pedophiles. And then

1034
01:02:32.679 --> 01:02:35.280
<v Speaker 1>all these streamers got in the game, and she got

1035
01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:38.360
<v Speaker 1>turned upside down, right, she got turned all the way

1036
01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:41.480
<v Speaker 1>upside down. So they're like, unless you're Margot Robbie, you're

1037
01:02:41.519 --> 01:02:44.760
<v Speaker 1>not getting a movie made. And even if you're Margot Robbie,

1038
01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:47.360
<v Speaker 1>they might not greenlight your movie. It's an insane place

1039
01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:51.199
<v Speaker 1>to be right now. So just having an awareness that, like,

1040
01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:53.280
<v Speaker 1>it's not always a reflection of your work. If your

1041
01:02:53.320 --> 01:02:56.440
<v Speaker 1>work doesn't sell, sometimes it's just a reflection of the market.

1042
01:02:56.519 --> 01:03:00.480
<v Speaker 1>And also like there's divine guidance with all of it, right,

1043
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:03.559
<v Speaker 1>like's not if it's a no, it could just be

1044
01:03:03.719 --> 01:03:05.800
<v Speaker 1>not right now. But for me, I always say this

1045
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:08.559
<v Speaker 1>or something better with everything. So I have to free

1046
01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:11.199
<v Speaker 1>myself from determining my value and the value of my

1047
01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:14.840
<v Speaker 1>work on the market value. So you can't think you

1048
01:03:14.920 --> 01:03:17.800
<v Speaker 1>can't directly tie your value as a human being to

1049
01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:22.599
<v Speaker 1>how much your painting sells for or how if your

1050
01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:26.599
<v Speaker 1>TV show runs three seasons, or if it even gets

1051
01:03:26.599 --> 01:03:28.679
<v Speaker 1>picked up at all, or if your book sells, like,

1052
01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:31.599
<v Speaker 1>that's not your value. Okay, your value. Just do the work,

1053
01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:33.559
<v Speaker 1>put it out. The rest is none of your business.

1054
01:03:34.519 --> 01:03:35.880
<v Speaker 1>If I have a poem to write, I need to

1055
01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:39.440
<v Speaker 1>write that poem, whether it will sell or not, okay,

1056
01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:42.559
<v Speaker 1>So whether like it is truly just like, do the work,

1057
01:03:42.639 --> 01:03:45.360
<v Speaker 1>put it out. The rest is none of your business.

1058
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:50.360
<v Speaker 1>That's up to the universe and that's between you. Know,

1059
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:53.639
<v Speaker 1>that's not your business. Do the work, put it out.

1060
01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Even if it affects one person slightly, You've done your job.

1061
01:03:57.440 --> 01:03:57.679
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

1062
01:03:57.760 --> 01:03:59.960
<v Speaker 1>So I always say that with this podcast. It's not huge,

1063
01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:02.079
<v Speaker 1>but the people that do listen to it really love it.

1064
01:04:02.239 --> 01:04:04.840
<v Speaker 1>And if I can, you know, if I can make

1065
01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:08.960
<v Speaker 1>a couple thousand people happy a week, great, you know,

1066
01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:18.400
<v Speaker 1>great love that you have to make some concessions and

1067
01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:22.480
<v Speaker 1>sense of timing some concessions does not mean total irresponsibility.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you do the work and you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, all right, well, I don't know when it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to start paying the bills, or if it's gonna

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01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:32.199
<v Speaker 1>start paying the bills, then you have to be a

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01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:34.639
<v Speaker 1>little loose with it. But that doesn't mean like completely

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01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:37.559
<v Speaker 1>being like, well, falk everything you know that doesn't mean

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01:04:37.599 --> 01:04:41.920
<v Speaker 1>totally irresponsibility. But here's the thing. Sometimes I will write badly,

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01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:44.599
<v Speaker 1>draw badly, paint badly, perform badly. I have a right

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01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:46.880
<v Speaker 1>to do that and to get to the other side create.

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01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:51.119
<v Speaker 1>Creativity itself is the reward. To a large degree, my

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01:04:51.199 --> 01:04:53.760
<v Speaker 1>life is my art, and when when it gets dull,

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01:04:53.880 --> 01:04:56.679
<v Speaker 1>so does my work. As an artist. My self respect

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01:04:56.800 --> 01:04:58.880
<v Speaker 1>comes from doing the work, one performance at a time,

1081
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:00.760
<v Speaker 1>when gig at a time, when hating at a time,

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01:05:00.840 --> 01:05:02.519
<v Speaker 1>two and a half years to make a ninety minute

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01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:05.320
<v Speaker 1>piece of film, five draft for one play, two years

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01:05:05.719 --> 01:05:07.960
<v Speaker 1>of working on a musical. Throughout it all, Daily I

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01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:09.920
<v Speaker 1>show up with the morning Pages and I write about

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01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:12.559
<v Speaker 1>my ugly curtains, my rotten haircut, my delight, and the

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01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:14.719
<v Speaker 1>way the light hits the trees on the morning run.

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01:05:15.039 --> 01:05:16.599
<v Speaker 1>As an artist, I do not need to be rich,

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01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:18.840
<v Speaker 1>but I do need to be richly supported. I cannot

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01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:21.760
<v Speaker 1>allow my emotional and intellectual life to stagnate, or the

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01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:24.960
<v Speaker 1>work will show it. There's a connection between self nurturing

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01:05:25.039 --> 01:05:28.800
<v Speaker 1>and self respect. If I hate myself, basically, if I

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01:05:28.840 --> 01:05:30.719
<v Speaker 1>get stagnant, you're gonna start to hate yourself. And if

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01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:33.719
<v Speaker 1>you hate yourself, you're gonna lash out at yourself or others.

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01:05:34.159 --> 01:05:36.280
<v Speaker 1>If I sabotage my artists, I can well expect an

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01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:40.119
<v Speaker 1>eating binge, a sex binge, a temper binge. Creativity is

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01:05:40.239 --> 01:05:43.760
<v Speaker 1>oxygen for our souls. We react like we're being choked

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01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:48.360
<v Speaker 1>when cutting off our creativity makes us savage. We react

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01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:50.440
<v Speaker 1>like we're being choked. So we come?

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01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Is that what you say? You come?

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<v Speaker 1>Weeknd? Okay, this is a real This is a real

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01:05:56.079 --> 01:05:59.280
<v Speaker 1>rage that surfaces when we are interfered with on levels

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01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:03.199
<v Speaker 1>then picking lint off of us, fixing us up. When

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01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:06.639
<v Speaker 1>well meaning parents and friends push marriage or nine to

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01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:08.639
<v Speaker 1>five or anything on us that doesn't evolve in a

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01:06:08.679 --> 01:06:10.920
<v Speaker 1>way that allows our art to continue, we will react

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01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:12.679
<v Speaker 1>as if we are fighting for our lives.

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01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:13.440
<v Speaker 2>We are.

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01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:18.519
<v Speaker 1>To kill your dreams because they are irresponsible. Is to

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01:06:18.559 --> 01:06:22.480
<v Speaker 1>be irresponsible to yourself. Credibility lies within you and God,

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01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:25.639
<v Speaker 1>not with a vote of your friends and acquaintances. The

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01:06:25.719 --> 01:06:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Creator made us creative. Our creativity is our gift from God.

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01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:31.559
<v Speaker 1>Our use of it is our gift to God. Accepting

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01:06:31.599 --> 01:06:36.599
<v Speaker 1>this bargain is the beginning of true self acceptance. Creativity

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01:06:36.719 --> 01:06:39.480
<v Speaker 1>is a spiritual practice. In other words, just when we

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01:06:39.599 --> 01:06:43.559
<v Speaker 1>get there, that there disappears. Dissatisfied with our accomplishments, however lofty,

1117
01:06:43.639 --> 01:06:45.760
<v Speaker 1>we are once again confronted with our creative self and

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01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:50.440
<v Speaker 1>its hungers, this unfinished quality. Can I rest. Like when

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01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:53.079
<v Speaker 1>we're creative, we want We set goals for ourselves and

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01:06:53.119 --> 01:06:55.119
<v Speaker 1>then we reach those goals. In the second we reach them,

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01:06:55.159 --> 01:06:57.719
<v Speaker 1>we set another goal. We don't take time to enjoy

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01:06:57.800 --> 01:06:59.480
<v Speaker 1>the fact that we got to where we were going.

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01:07:00.320 --> 01:07:04.599
<v Speaker 1>We immediately move the goal post. And I think as

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01:07:04.800 --> 01:07:07.360
<v Speaker 1>artists we are it's not necessarily so much about the

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01:07:07.519 --> 01:07:11.079
<v Speaker 1>goal and the greed of attaining the goal. Whether it's

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01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:14.000
<v Speaker 1>an oscar, an emmy, whatever it is, a you know,

1127
01:07:14.280 --> 01:07:18.079
<v Speaker 1>a fucking stamp of approval from your mom, whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is, we want more and more because as creatives,

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01:07:22.840 --> 01:07:25.519
<v Speaker 1>we can't rest. We can't stagnate. If we stagnate, then

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01:07:25.679 --> 01:07:28.000
<v Speaker 1>like the creativity, the channel gets shut down.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like a channel on a radio. If you're

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01:07:31.079 --> 01:07:33.760
<v Speaker 1>going between channels and one hits and one doesn't, and

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01:07:33.800 --> 01:07:35.719
<v Speaker 1>then you stay at the one. The one that's hitting

1135
01:07:35.840 --> 01:07:39.239
<v Speaker 1>is you creating, right, and then the one that's static

1136
01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:42.960
<v Speaker 1>you stay there. That's there's nothing flowing in or out.

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01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:45.159
<v Speaker 1>And you stay there for too long. You're just there,

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01:07:45.519 --> 01:07:46.960
<v Speaker 1>you know. So you got to get out of that.

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01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:49.159
<v Speaker 1>You got to get out of that in between as

1140
01:07:49.159 --> 01:07:52.039
<v Speaker 1>soon as you get in it. As artists, we're spiritual sharks.

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01:07:52.079 --> 01:07:54.039
<v Speaker 1>The ruthless truth is that if we don't keep moving,

1142
01:07:54.119 --> 01:07:55.920
<v Speaker 1>we sink to the bottom and die. The choice is

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01:07:56.000 --> 01:07:58.320
<v Speaker 1>very simple. We can insist on resting on our laurels,

1144
01:07:58.440 --> 01:08:01.320
<v Speaker 1>or we can begin anew. Creativity is not a business,

1145
01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:04.440
<v Speaker 1>although it may generate much business, and artists cannot replicate

1146
01:08:04.519 --> 01:08:06.679
<v Speaker 1>a prior success indefinitely. So we see a lot of

1147
01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:09.760
<v Speaker 1>artists do this where they hit it big commercially with

1148
01:08:09.920 --> 01:08:12.000
<v Speaker 1>one piece of work, and then they try and replicate

1149
01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:14.159
<v Speaker 1>that over and over again, and then for whatever reason,

1150
01:08:14.679 --> 01:08:19.039
<v Speaker 1>the magic is gone, and the time they try and

1151
01:08:19.119 --> 01:08:21.079
<v Speaker 1>do it the second time, it doesn't exactly hit the

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01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:22.960
<v Speaker 1>way it did the first time, and so on and

1153
01:08:23.039 --> 01:08:25.760
<v Speaker 1>so forth. So that's just proof that like you can't,

1154
01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:30.720
<v Speaker 1>you can't exhaust yourself creatively, especially trying to create the

1155
01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:33.279
<v Speaker 1>same thing over and over again. In short, as success

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01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:36.119
<v Speaker 1>comes to us, we must be vigilant. Any success postulated

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01:08:36.279 --> 01:08:39.960
<v Speaker 1>on a permanent artistic plateau dooms us, and it to failure.

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01:08:40.720 --> 01:08:43.720
<v Speaker 1>This is where walking comes in. What we're after here

1159
01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:46.600
<v Speaker 1>is moving meditation. Okay, so this I love. This is walking.

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01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:49.319
<v Speaker 1>So you'll hear a lot of artists talk about their

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01:08:49.439 --> 01:08:52.199
<v Speaker 1>greatest idea comes to them while they're walking, while they're

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01:08:52.199 --> 01:08:55.079
<v Speaker 1>in a car, driving, while they're doing something. Because when

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01:08:55.119 --> 01:08:57.720
<v Speaker 1>your mind is preoccupied with being alert to the world

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01:08:57.760 --> 01:09:00.680
<v Speaker 1>around you, then there's like a it's a it's a

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01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:03.800
<v Speaker 1>sub mind. It's the more quiet mind that can come out,

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01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:06.239
<v Speaker 1>and you'll that's why when you're walking, you'll get thoughts.

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01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:08.880
<v Speaker 1>When you're showering, you'll have thoughts. When you're driving, you'll

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01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:11.720
<v Speaker 1>have thoughts because you're paying attention to something else. You're

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01:09:11.800 --> 01:09:14.840
<v Speaker 1>not nose first in your phone on social media. You're

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01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:16.960
<v Speaker 1>paying attention to something else, and then the thoughts that

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01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:20.800
<v Speaker 1>are sort of dormant within your creative mind can pop up.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're having a moment of being stuck, go

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01:09:23.439 --> 01:09:27.880
<v Speaker 1>on a walk, go for a drive, go do something

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01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:31.399
<v Speaker 1>where you need to pay attention and and the thing

1175
01:09:31.560 --> 01:09:33.560
<v Speaker 1>is everything that's gonna pop up. First, it's gonna be like, oh,

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01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I need to call this person, I need to wish

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01:09:35.119 --> 01:09:37.279
<v Speaker 1>this person a happy birthday. I forgot to do that chore.

1178
01:09:37.359 --> 01:09:39.359
<v Speaker 1>I need to write all those things down so they

1179
01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:41.600
<v Speaker 1>don't come up a second time, and then after that

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01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:44.159
<v Speaker 1>the creative thoughts are gonna start coming up. I haven't

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01:09:44.199 --> 01:09:45.960
<v Speaker 1>had a creative thought in years. I'll be honest, I

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01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:46.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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01:09:47.279 --> 01:09:47.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why.

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01:09:47.880 --> 01:09:49.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's the depression, and now I

1185
01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:50.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's a lexapro. I haven't had real

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01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:54.560
<v Speaker 1>creative thoughts in yours but aside from stand up but

1187
01:09:54.760 --> 01:09:56.239
<v Speaker 1>like not like oh I need to write this movie

1188
01:09:56.319 --> 01:09:57.600
<v Speaker 1>or I need to write the show. I'm not feeling

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01:09:57.600 --> 01:10:01.560
<v Speaker 1>real inspired. Well is to connect the world outside of us,

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01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:04.279
<v Speaker 1>to lose the obsessive self focus in self exploration and

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01:10:04.319 --> 01:10:07.159
<v Speaker 1>simply explore. One quickly notes that when the mind is

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01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:09.680
<v Speaker 1>focused on the other, the self often comes into a

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01:10:09.800 --> 01:10:14.199
<v Speaker 1>far more accurate focus. Exercise teaches us the reward of process.

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01:10:14.279 --> 01:10:17.039
<v Speaker 1>It teaches us a sense of satisfaction over small tasks

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01:10:17.079 --> 01:10:19.960
<v Speaker 1>well done. Life is a series of hurdles. That used

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01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:23.079
<v Speaker 1>to see it as a series of obstacles with or roadblocks.

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01:10:23.119 --> 01:10:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Now that they're now they're hurdles and challenges. How well

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01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:29.079
<v Speaker 1>am I taking them? An endorphin induced natural high is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best byproducts of exercise itself. As we

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01:10:32.800 --> 01:10:35.359
<v Speaker 1>said before, we learn by going where we have to go.

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01:10:35.640 --> 01:10:39.199
<v Speaker 1>Exercise is often going that moves us from stagnation to inspiration,

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01:10:39.319 --> 01:10:41.960
<v Speaker 1>from problem to solution, from self pity to self respect.

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01:10:42.319 --> 01:10:44.319
<v Speaker 1>We do learn by going. We learn we are stronger

1204
01:10:44.359 --> 01:10:45.920
<v Speaker 1>than we thought. We learned to look at things with

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01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:48.199
<v Speaker 1>a new perspective. We learn to solve our problems by

1206
01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:51.199
<v Speaker 1>tapping our own inner resources and listening for inspiration, not

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01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:55.800
<v Speaker 1>from others, but from ourselves by denfinition. Exercise is the

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01:10:55.960 --> 01:11:02.079
<v Speaker 1>act of bringing into play, or realizing in action, building

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01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:05.239
<v Speaker 1>your artists alter. Okay, In order to stay easily and

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01:11:05.319 --> 01:11:08.319
<v Speaker 1>happily creative, we need to stay spiritually centered. A spiritual

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01:11:08.439 --> 01:11:11.279
<v Speaker 1>room or even a spiritual corner is an excellent way

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01:11:11.319 --> 01:11:13.239
<v Speaker 1>to do this. This haven can be a corner of

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01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:16.640
<v Speaker 1>a room, under the stairs, even a window ledge. It's

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01:11:16.680 --> 01:11:19.960
<v Speaker 1>a reminder and acknowledgement of the fact that our creator

1215
01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:22.960
<v Speaker 1>unfolds our creativity, filling it with things that makes you happy.

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01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:26.560
<v Speaker 1>An artists alter should be a sensory experience. We are

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01:11:26.600 --> 01:11:28.600
<v Speaker 1>all meant to celebrate the good things of this earth.

1218
01:11:29.239 --> 01:11:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Pretty leaves, rocks, candles, sea, treasures, burning incense while reading

1219
01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:35.600
<v Speaker 1>affirmations or writing them, lighting a candle, dancing to drum music,

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01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:38.880
<v Speaker 1>holding a smooth rock, and listening to a Gregorian chant.

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01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:43.840
<v Speaker 1>All of these tactile physical techniques reinforce spiritual growth. Remember

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01:11:43.880 --> 01:11:46.560
<v Speaker 1>the artist child speaks the language of the soul music, dance,

1223
01:11:46.600 --> 01:11:49.399
<v Speaker 1>scent shells. Remember how much little kids like gaudy step.

1224
01:11:50.039 --> 01:11:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Your artist is your little kid, so your altar should

1225
01:11:52.720 --> 01:11:56.760
<v Speaker 1>be gotty. Give yourself the permission to be gouty, childlike

1226
01:11:58.039 --> 01:12:01.720
<v Speaker 1>and all that jazz. You guys, I'm so proud of you.

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01:12:02.359 --> 01:12:05.159
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for sticking with me on this journey. For the

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01:12:05.239 --> 01:12:06.680
<v Speaker 1>rest of the besties that are mad at me, this

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01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:11.239
<v Speaker 1>is a short episode, Shari, Shari, it's hummer, it's shummer,

1230
01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:14.239
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes we go to your short episode. Okay, I

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01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:16.439
<v Speaker 1>love you so much and I will see you next week.