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<v Speaker 1>You see something's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>What I.

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<v Speaker 2>Formerly known as Springfield, Ohio. It's the location where they're

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<v Speaker 2>eating the cats, they're eating the dogs. Anyhow, folks, I

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<v Speaker 2>will be your pilot and navigator for this Shenanigan infused

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<v Speaker 2>journey to the mind of this particular garbage. Can dude

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<v Speaker 2>and join me here tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>For a operation GCD Occult and or Esoteric film review

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<v Speaker 3>is Headless Giant and Nick of the Occult Rejects.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome gents.

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing great to have it back JJ.

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<v Speaker 2>At a short Hiatis back and back and functioning for

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<v Speaker 2>the town banging at least right and uh we'll uh,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll definitely have to dive into a future Friday's discussion

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<v Speaker 2>their Headless. You have to join me and Nick here

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<v Speaker 2>again for another Fridays. I know Nick and I have

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<v Speaker 2>both been we've both been missing different Friday shows over

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<v Speaker 2>recent weeks. We actually just had our first one back

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<v Speaker 2>together this past Friday, So definitely you have to get

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<v Speaker 2>that knocked out here in the month of March. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to join us for another conversation. But I look

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<v Speaker 2>forward to the look forward to the night's conversations there

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<v Speaker 2>fellas the uh I believe you both have watched tonight's

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<v Speaker 2>film review of the nineteen ninety one cinematic masterpiece Keats.

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<v Speaker 4>A Man as much as a stomach.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I will have to say it was kind of

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<v Speaker 5>a shitty movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of a kind of a shitty movie, to the

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<v Speaker 2>point where I the first time I watched I watched it,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what like? That was my review of what? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What did? I just like? What? What did I just watch?

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<v Speaker 4>It was?

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<v Speaker 1>It was really something.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think if if you go in the mind

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<v Speaker 5>frame that I want to watch a cheesy, shitty movie,

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<v Speaker 5>it's actually it will be a good movie, and like,

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<v Speaker 5>I can see myself enjoying it. If I was in

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<v Speaker 5>a different mind frame of why I was watching it,

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<v Speaker 5>they'd be like, Yo, this shit is fucking dumb but funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I totally agree with that. Your meta analysis there, Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>was your what was your thoughts there? Headless? Before we

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<v Speaker 2>get into is why don't you guys you have a

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<v Speaker 2>proper introduction here of Nick from the occulty rejects you

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<v Speaker 2>got anything you're working on over there? The plug before

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<v Speaker 2>we get started in this wonderful film review of the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest film of nineteen ninety one.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh oh, go ahead, Headless, you go, Headless.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a show coming up tomorrow where we're going

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<v Speaker 1>over emails of people's occult, magical, paranormal dreams and experiences

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<v Speaker 1>that they've had. And that's gonna be tomorrow night on

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<v Speaker 1>Headless Giant YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 4>So check that out.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, definitely looking forward to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Ranks and is that is that? Are you joining him

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<v Speaker 2>for that? Nick that you? I know you guys have

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<v Speaker 2>been doing that ever recent weeks.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, if I can, I like to. I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's fun. I really enjoyed.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, yeah, I watched the last two weeks. As my understanding.

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<v Speaker 2>You got an interesting email two weeks ago about some

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<v Speaker 2>ghost busting in New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was strange. Some guy named JJ was trolling us.

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<v Speaker 5>I think she said he got pegged by ghosts.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never heard of a lot of That sounds tragic.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds real tragic. Yeah, apparently it's unfortunate mistake. I

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<v Speaker 2>apparently mismistook my life for the life of Dan Aykroyd's

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<v Speaker 2>character in the film Ghostbusters. Easy error to make, I understand,

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, I did like the Mound discussion last week.

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<v Speaker 2>I tuned in for that as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Hell yeah, Manson's pretty cool guy.

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<v Speaker 1>If you guys want to follow him on at Manson

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<v Speaker 1>rollers on uh x, He's a great follow.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I've been enjoying that surge y'all are doing

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<v Speaker 2>over there? What else is going on the Occult Rejects? Nick?

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<v Speaker 5>Let me see what do I got? I think tomorrow

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<v Speaker 5>I got a show drop it actually no Thursday, I

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<v Speaker 5>have the uh oh, yeah, we got that show that

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<v Speaker 5>being you did yesterday actually is going to be dropping Friday. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>That Mormonism is Yeah, how it Hughes and Cia stuff

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<v Speaker 5>should be pretty interesting. It's gonna be a multi part series.

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<v Speaker 5>We got that drop in tomorrow. And I don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to mention the name because I mean, odds are certain

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<v Speaker 5>someone will probably put out a show before I can.

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<v Speaker 5>But we are doing a live Saturday night on a cult.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't even want to put it on the title

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<v Speaker 5>on YouTube because I'm sure I'll see like three different

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<v Speaker 5>people jump on it before I, you know, do it myself.

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<v Speaker 5>But do you want to let people know to look

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<v Speaker 5>out for that? It will be me jj Ethan and

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<v Speaker 5>Lisa covering a topic Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to. I'm looking forward to this top

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<v Speaker 2>Secret Brownie project on Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, no, you know, I was texting you earlier joking

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<v Speaker 5>around about it like that shit does happen. Though I

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<v Speaker 5>hate to say it, it does happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. I think it's hilarious because you're You're spot

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<v Speaker 2>on for sure, exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>Especially when the same person doesn't like three times in a.

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<v Speaker 2>Row right now. And we got Fridays going on with

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<v Speaker 2>this Friday Night with bat all Us from UH the

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<v Speaker 2>Shadow and Truth and Shadow podcasts and UH, I believe

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<v Speaker 2>also the Unrefined podcast. I believe it was the other

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<v Speaker 2>one he's he's a co host of UH. Pretty pretty

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<v Speaker 2>interesting fella, Pretty interesting dude, got a lot of insight,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of parapolitics and conspiracy and conspiracy theory topics.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think he's got a lot from a Christian

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<v Speaker 2>angle too, because he's having on Christian stuff. Kind of

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate that perspective. So I uh, I'm looking forward to that.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's Friday night at nine pm meter time here.

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<v Speaker 2>But UH got a couple of good lineups here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fridays coming up, so that'll be a couple of exciting

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<v Speaker 2>shows here coming forward. Did I get locked out my frozen?

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<v Speaker 4>No, you're good now look back.

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<v Speaker 1>Sort of?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh no, back went back, You're back out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So we see Wallis on Friday, and we got

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of other good folks lined up here in

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<v Speaker 2>the subsequent weeks for Fridays, So definitely looking forward to that.

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<v Speaker 2>And as far as operationing GCD Live back next Wednesday

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<v Speaker 2>Night with Lord knows what topic, I'm not sure yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a couple of bounds around my mind, most

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<v Speaker 2>recently when I was describing the nick their day, and

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<v Speaker 2>strangely enough, it was regarding the Monica Lewinsky affair. And

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<v Speaker 2>strangely enough, she came out today making much of wild

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<v Speaker 2>comments on it. Oh they're gonna roll her back out again,

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe you should cover that.

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<v Speaker 2>I meant, yeah, how she's a limited hangout and she

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<v Speaker 2>was basically been employed by the Clinton since then. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean the numerous Clinton folks with the Clinton's Orbit, folks

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<v Speaker 2>who were involved with the Clinton Global Initiative, the Clinton Foundation,

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<v Speaker 2>these are the folks that have been employing her.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, don't forget the macade.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's always the elephant in the room. Is it not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's The whole Monica Lewinsky story is

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<v Speaker 1>just hilarious. Once you get a little bit of the backstory,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, Wow, they really tried to well, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it served its purpose, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It did. Because it did, it gets super wild because

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<v Speaker 2>then I'll just give you a quick meta analysis of

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<v Speaker 2>the situation, a little strategic outlook if you will. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of the folks that involved in Trump Russia

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<v Speaker 2>Gate framing stuff were involved in the Monica Lewinsky affair,

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<v Speaker 2>right to include Lonnie Davis, who was the chief counsel

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<v Speaker 2>the he was Michael Michael Trump's attorney, that one dude

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<v Speaker 2>that kept rolling out there, Michael Cohen. Yep, his attorney

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<v Speaker 2>was Lonnie Davis. Why the fuck would he hire Lonnie Davis?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? I mean, this is Bill Clinton's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>goon for many years, right, including the number one goon

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<v Speaker 2>in the Lewinsky affair. But the Lewinsky affair was interesting

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<v Speaker 2>because it brought Matt Drudge as this conservative person on

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<v Speaker 2>the scene and he scooped. He's his fame claimed to

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<v Speaker 2>fame during Lewinsky affair was scooping this anfamous writer, Michael Isikoff,

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<v Speaker 2>he scooped is a Kauf on the on the story,

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<v Speaker 2>as the legend goes well, is a Couf, the one

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<v Speaker 2>who did all the sets rich coverage for russ Gate stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>even to the whole podcast series on the subject. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's deeply involved in all that nonsense. That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>It's you know, do you have these seemingly disparre para

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<v Speaker 2>political incidents happening decades apart, But it's the same same

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<v Speaker 2>fucking people the world is.

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<v Speaker 1>The world is being run by publicists. I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just writing the scripts up and throwing these people

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<v Speaker 2>It seems that way times, does it not? And tonight

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<v Speaker 2>tonight in our film review discussion, uh, some of this

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<v Speaker 2>seems far off from the nineteen ninety one Uh, you

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<v Speaker 2>know cinematic masterpiece Pizza Man, starring Bill Maher as a

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<v Speaker 2>pizza delivery guy in a what is kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>stunner or not a stunner noar, kind of a crime noir.

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<v Speaker 2>But as had those pointed out, is pizza noar. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the that's the best way to described

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<v Speaker 2>as God awful film. I'm being obviously being facetious when

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<v Speaker 2>I say it's a cinematic masterpiece or a film at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I do have to say it was genre bending, like

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<v Speaker 1>it was just taking all these things and just squeezing them,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get all the all the juice out they could.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is obviously, as you as you pell Saul,

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<v Speaker 2>is very politically motivated kind of piece, kind of film,

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<v Speaker 2>and those politics and the people involved in that film

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<v Speaker 2>seemingly are still relevant today and just happened to revolve

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<v Speaker 2>around the discussion of Jeffrey Epstein. So almost begs the

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<v Speaker 2>question of is there a esoteric meaning to the the

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<v Speaker 2>Pizza Man and the barb the ongoing you know, pizza trip,

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<v Speaker 2>because they keep asking, you know, they keep using pizza

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<v Speaker 2>in various strange contexts throughout the throughout the film, and

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<v Speaker 2>obviously there's the overt context where Bill Meher plays a

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<v Speaker 2>pizza man piece delivery man. However, the use of the

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<v Speaker 2>word pizza is just all throughout the film, even you know,

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<v Speaker 2>describing all sorts of different things, and they keeps want

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<v Speaker 2>to say about releasing the pizza at one point in

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<v Speaker 2>time and again this varying kind of context like that

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<v Speaker 2>that just don't make a lot of sense, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>on their face.

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<v Speaker 1>Not at all. And they went for the obvious joke

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<v Speaker 1>about the anchovies on the pizza several times.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was very hacky, very hacky.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, there's something about the fish, like the fish,

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<v Speaker 1>he's following the fish or something, and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>got maybe the idea that maybe it's a Pisces type film.

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<v Speaker 2>Woh.

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<v Speaker 5>The fifteen twenty three is mentioned a law too. I

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<v Speaker 5>did wonder about that, like they specified them mount so

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<v Speaker 5>many times. I want that fifteen Still trying to get

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<v Speaker 5>that fifteen twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of these numbers and stuff, because that's nothing I I,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, ever I it's something I would pick up on.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what I got for fifteen twenty three was that

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<v Speaker 1>several significant events took place around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Christian the Second was forced to abdicate the king of

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<v Speaker 1>Denmark and Norway on January twentieth, fifteen twenty three. Gustav

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<v Speaker 2>Three's that's that's every good like that burned pizza you

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about yesterday. The uh so fifteen twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I was gonna jump into this plot, but

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen twenty three is like the main what is that? Said?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe one hundred times throughout the film they say fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty three. And it started immediately in the introduction

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<v Speaker 2>of the film when Bill Maher's trying to deliver a

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<v Speaker 2>pizza and the bill for that pizza is fifteen dollars

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty three cents, and he goes on demanding that

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<v Speaker 2>same sum of money from everyone in their mother he

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<v Speaker 2>Elmo Bunn. That's Bill Meher's character, which I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if there's any deeper meaning to the name, but we'll

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<v Speaker 6>Look.

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<v Speaker 2>I did look into that a little bit. Elmo Bunn

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<v Speaker 2>never having delivered a cold pizza or being stiffed on

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<v Speaker 2>an extra large with sausage and anchovy to go to

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<v Speaker 2>a dangerous part of East Hollywood. Elmo knows he's in trouble,

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<v Speaker 2>and that bill for that pizza and he thought I

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<v Speaker 2>described the previous pizza man he tried to deliver a

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<v Speaker 2>pizza to that location was never seen again. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>already it's already no ominous kind of situation surrounding this

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<v Speaker 4>I want to point something out real quick. Uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>That that message right there is exactly how it was

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<v Speaker 1>delivered in the movie. There was no no subplot, no nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>no like they just said that exact same thing like

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<v Speaker 1>that could have just been read from the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. That's a good point there. Yeah, there's there's to

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<v Speaker 2>be fair, there's zero character development, there's almost no well

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<v Speaker 2>defined plot. You really don't understand what's going on in

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<v Speaker 2>this film till the very last scene when you meet

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<v Speaker 2>none other than Donald Trump the caarc. It's not Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump the man, but it's somebody playing the character Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll get we'll get into We'll get into that point.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we get to that, though, we got to describe

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<v Speaker 2>what else leads Bill Maher to that situation, including meeting

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<v Speaker 2>a number of political folks, right, So, like to me,

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<v Speaker 2>this film was some sort of like, you know, there

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<v Speaker 2>was some political intentions or some sort of political hit

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<v Speaker 2>piece going on, which again I think is very intriguing

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<v Speaker 2>relative to why Donald Trump's included in the film. But

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<v Speaker 2>the first guy Bill Meher meets is the guy at

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<v Speaker 2>the first stop there the the uh it happens to

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<v Speaker 2>be the La mayor at that time, right, the guy

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<v Speaker 2>who who ordered the sausage and Anchovi's pizza was none

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<v Speaker 2>other than Mayor Tom Bradley, you know, obviously not the mayor,

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<v Speaker 2>but somebody playing the mayor. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there was a fight scene before that where he's

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<v Speaker 1>fighting the mob Somehow he walks into this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>warehouse looking thing that later on in the movie it's

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<v Speaker 1>referenced that each one of these crates is full of gold.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure how they got there, but anyways, his

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<v Speaker 1>warehouse and then all these mobsters are sitting around and

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<v Speaker 1>one guy is obviously trying to play off with the

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<v Speaker 1>whole mobster cliche about having the jowls stick out or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he's like, I'm just gonna eat my pizza

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<v Speaker 1>and not give you any money. So the first guy

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<v Speaker 1>to stiff him was this mobster guy who turns out

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<v Speaker 1>to be an actor playing a mobster or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was like a boot like Brando, right, like

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<v Speaker 2>a bootleg Godfather looking character.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. It was just a really bad Brando impression.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he worked for Yeah, you're right. But then

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, when after he fights that guy,

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<v Speaker 2>then Tom Bradley pops in with an AK forty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Right there, he goes your anti gun, like the anti

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<v Speaker 2>gun stuffed on this film is it's pretty. It's pretty

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<v Speaker 2>in your face, right.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's one of the first things that Elmo does

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<v Speaker 1>is talk about how he's a liberal Democrat and he

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<v Speaker 1>voted for the mayor and even though you don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>in gun there's always a gun store open in La

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<v Speaker 1>that he can go visit and pick up Amo.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a comment on fifteen twenty. Yeah, no, you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>It was at three in the morning too, So there

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<v Speaker 2>acting like it was a twenty four to seven gun shop, right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen twenty three eleven eleven is the essence of all

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<v Speaker 2>that is sinful, harmful and imperfect. I was that that's

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<v Speaker 2>the uh you had them all together.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, maybe yeah, that's what it looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, no, just catching up on some of

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<v Speaker 2>these some of these comments here in the chat, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think, uh, yeah, so, I mean obviously have.

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<v Speaker 1>They got him?

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<v Speaker 5>They got him for.

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<v Speaker 2>My back? Yeah yeah so then yeah, so the first scene, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you have this immediate you know situation where

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<v Speaker 2>the mob is working with the LA mayor, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're describing how they've swimmled, you know, lots of money

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<v Speaker 2>from the from the city and some sort of train project, right,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think is funny because, you know, not LA specific,

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<v Speaker 2>but in recent years California, Gavin Newsoman gang have been

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<v Speaker 2>squandering upwards of one hundred bion dollars on some railway system.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, some things never changed out there in California.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a Ponzi scheme using the savings alone sort

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<v Speaker 1>of trope from nineteen eighty seven with the savings alone

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<v Speaker 1>crisis with.

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<v Speaker 2>The bonds right, the bond markets right, yeap, which is

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<v Speaker 2>which is why we later see a character of Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Milliken who did time about ten years for the He

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<v Speaker 1>Right, so this movie is chocked full of references from

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety one.

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<v Speaker 4>And what about it is.

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<v Speaker 1>That it's just like you, if you weren't watching Murphy

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<v Speaker 1>Brown back then you still wouldn't get it.

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<v Speaker 4>But like that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically the whole TV show of Murphy Brown was just

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<v Speaker 1>making constant references to what was going on in the

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<v Speaker 1>world at the time and then trying to make jokes

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. It was really awkward and kind of bad,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you go back and watch that show, you

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<v Speaker 1>can see that they were trying to ape that style

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<v Speaker 1>of just making these constant references to current events.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I also like on that, and I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to point out this was written and this is a

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<v Speaker 2>full blow in Hollywood production. Whether or not it was

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<v Speaker 2>released to the theater, that's probably someone in Hollywood made

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<v Speaker 2>the right decision and said, well, the right decision should

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<v Speaker 2>have been burned. But clearly, again this was a propaganda

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<v Speaker 2>piece with I'm assuming numerous intentions. Again, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>assuming the writer and or Bill Maher's beef with each

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<v Speaker 2>one of these characters that Bill Maher's running into throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the film. I'm assuming that this is their hit piece

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<v Speaker 2>against these characters, right, Like, why are you including the

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<v Speaker 2>mayor in this story? Why do you include Ron Reagan

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<v Speaker 2>and Gerald Dean Ferraro in the next scene? Right, So,

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<v Speaker 2>these things I think are all very telling to me

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<v Speaker 2>as far as what the you know, some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>hit piece by the writer end or Bill Maher. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the writer was this fellow who J. F. Lawton, but

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<v Speaker 2>he wrote he wrote this film under the name JD. Athens. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>and the first thing that this was sent to me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, don't remember exactly when, a long long time

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<v Speaker 2>ago while back, but somebody has sent to me because

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<v Speaker 2>here in the Wikipedia page, the source of all, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all information on the interwebs, the character here is listed

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<v Speaker 2>as Dvance. I think this is why this was initially

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<v Speaker 2>sent to me at one point in time. However, in

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<v Speaker 2>the film of you all noticed it's it's Vince Vince's pizza, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's interesting though, is it seems that the last

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<v Speaker 2>time this Wikipedia page was updated was twenty fifteen, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and it just it just seems like an odd uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe even a joke from the universe. Who knows,

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<v Speaker 2>But you got jd right, you got Dvance and then

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<v Speaker 2>you got Trump, and you're and you're dealing with circumstances

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<v Speaker 2>in this film, politically speaking, are still relevant today concerning

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<v Speaker 2>the topic of Trump and other folks such as Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 2>EPs is another connecting principle here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what could be happening is the magical principle

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<v Speaker 1>that if it's stupid enough, it's gonna play over and

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's very possible. That's very possible. But the writer

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<v Speaker 2>of that film wrote films such as Pretty Woman and

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<v Speaker 2>under Siege, with the classic film with the Steven Sagall

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<v Speaker 2>possibly Gary Busey's greatest film. I mean, that's it's up

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<v Speaker 2>for negotiations, but it's possibly the best film ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely Now, Gary Busey in that one was semi coherent, that.

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<v Speaker 2>Wast today the h and then of course Tommy the

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<v Speaker 2>Jones and and speaking of all this, tom Foolery was

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<v Speaker 2>shady spooks and uh these bond markets. Right, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the guys in that film, uh was uh, you know

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<v Speaker 2>in that category. I can't think of his name right now.

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<v Speaker 2>He's ah, I'll look it up. Here while I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 2>of it. But yeah, the I don't know, it's odd

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<v Speaker 2>to me again, see you go, you'll watch the film

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<v Speaker 2>like you probably thought like a you know, a very

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<v Speaker 2>untalented writer could have written that film, right, somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>had no talent in writing films such as Pretty Woman

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<v Speaker 2>or under Siege. You know, films that have character, the

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<v Speaker 2>character backstories, they build characters, you know they have they

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<v Speaker 2>have various narratives and plot lines that coincide one another,

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<v Speaker 2>seemingly integrated throughout the film, especially with a film like Undersiege.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen Pretty Woman, so I really can't speak

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<v Speaker 2>to that. I just I recall it winning awards and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, watching this film, really what happened, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because obviously this is even I think this was after

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<v Speaker 2>a Pretty Woman.

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<v Speaker 4>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So to me, it seemed like it was a child

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<v Speaker 1>that was trying to write like a kid will say

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is funny because it's a funny word,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's that's what is going to make people laugh,

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<v Speaker 1>as funny words make people laugh. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they kept repeating fifteen twenty three, hoping that it's an

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<v Speaker 1>obscure enough number that it'll make somebody laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, never did I think that. You think that

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<v Speaker 2>was a joke gone wrong?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think a lot of jokes gone wrong like this.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of jokes that did not hit in

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted you to laugh, But it's like okay, Like

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<v Speaker 1>how they introduced Ronald Reagan and Geraldine Ferraro was the

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<v Speaker 1>woman that was being held hostage.

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<v Speaker 4>By these mobsters or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>She killed all the mobsters, like she picked up forty seven,

425
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<v Speaker 1>murdered all of them for no specific reason. They were

426
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<v Speaker 1>out of commission, and she just it seemed like she

427
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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get rid of the witnesses, right.

428
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<v Speaker 2>Right.

429
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<v Speaker 1>I think that occurred to Bill maher to act like

430
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<v Speaker 1>he thought that she was trying to get rid of

431
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<v Speaker 1>the witnesses, but then immediately just forgot and then carried

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<v Speaker 1>on in dialogue. That had nothing to do with the

433
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<v Speaker 1>fact that maybe she's, you know, at the root of

434
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<v Speaker 1>all of this garbage. But after that scene where she

435
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<v Speaker 1>brutally murders all these people, she says, they go back

436
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<v Speaker 1>to her place, and she says, don't go in that room,

437
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<v Speaker 1>and then immediately he goes in the room because he's

438
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<v Speaker 1>looking for the money, and there's Geraldine Ferraro and.

439
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<v Speaker 2>In bending right, yeah, and they were opposing Folks who

440
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<v Speaker 2>don't know who Geraldine Ferraro is. Pat yourself on the back.

441
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<v Speaker 2>You should not know who that person is. But she

442
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<v Speaker 2>was a vice presidential candidate on the Democratic ticket against

443
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<v Speaker 2>Reagan in eighty four. So them sleeping together is Bill Maher,

444
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<v Speaker 2>I think saying like you're all one same party, you

445
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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean?

446
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<v Speaker 1>It could be that, or it could be a fun

447
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<v Speaker 1>name to say, Geraldine Ferraro, Geraldine Ferra.

448
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<v Speaker 2>It is kind of a fun name to say, isn't

449
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<v Speaker 2>that right?

450
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<v Speaker 4>But there's the comedy, right is that funny name?

451
00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:49.960
<v Speaker 1>And Ronald Reagan, Well that's funny because everybody makes fun

452
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<v Speaker 1>of Ronald Reagan in the eighties and nineties. He's the

453
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<v Speaker 1>laugh line, you know. But instead, what it did do

454
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<v Speaker 1>is make people wonder about are they really trying to

455
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<v Speaker 1>send us messages here? Which I think it's so bad.

456
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<v Speaker 2>I think the I think the whole movie's deep, like

457
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<v Speaker 2>there's you know again, this is a political hit piece

458
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<v Speaker 2>has probably got some other meetings. Again again, just a

459
00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:16.839
<v Speaker 2>mere fact that that Donald Trump is the overlord and

460
00:23:16.920 --> 00:23:19.720
<v Speaker 2>all of this this criminal enterprise, you know, back in

461
00:23:19.799 --> 00:23:21.759
<v Speaker 2>nineteen nineteen ninety one film that you know, it makes

462
00:23:21.799 --> 00:23:24.440
<v Speaker 2>me wonder, like what does this beat between Bill Mahert

463
00:23:24.680 --> 00:23:26.960
<v Speaker 2>and Donald Trump and or you know who Bill Maher's

464
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<v Speaker 2>associated with. So again, the writer of that film wrote

465
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<v Speaker 2>under Stage with Steven Seagall and you know, again Gary

466
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<v Speaker 2>Busey's greatest acting effort possibly Robert Booth Nichols. He's connected

467
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<v Speaker 2>to the Octopus conspiracy with Danny Castelaro. He's one of

468
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<v Speaker 2>these spooky kind of financial spooky guys. You know, he's

469
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<v Speaker 2>out there, you know, finan doing the the moving and

470
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<v Speaker 2>the shaking, you know, the financier actions behind some spook operations.

471
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<v Speaker 2>So you know, at the end of the day, like

472
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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what's going on with some of the

473
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<v Speaker 2>characters that that Mars attacking in this film with the

474
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<v Speaker 2>next guy, Michael Milliken. So after after Joe, well, well

475
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<v Speaker 2>before we get past before we get past that, I

476
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<v Speaker 2>like to point out this one thing I noticed throughout

477
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<v Speaker 2>throughout the film, and I don't know either one of

478
00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:13.839
<v Speaker 2>you all noticed the same thing here, But after that

479
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<v Speaker 2>first scene where the woman that was being held, Hawses

480
00:24:16.279 --> 00:24:19.240
<v Speaker 2>picked up the AK forty seven and marks everybody. Bill

481
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<v Speaker 2>marsh proceeds to just beat her senseless, right, Yeah.

482
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<v Speaker 5>I think when they go back to the plane, I

483
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<v Speaker 5>think he just gets aggravated and so slapping the ship

484
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<v Speaker 5>out of them.

485
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was really good. He's smacking her around. And

486
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<v Speaker 2>that seems to be an ongoing trope throughout the film

487
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<v Speaker 2>is violence against women. So only the women are getting

488
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<v Speaker 2>beat up, like really bad like her, and or murdered

489
00:24:43.799 --> 00:24:46.960
<v Speaker 2>because he later dies. But you know it's the Jeraldy

490
00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Ferraro gets beat up real bad or not Jody Ferraro,

491
00:24:49.799 --> 00:24:56.480
<v Speaker 2>dan Quail's wife gets gets beat gets beat senseless. I

492
00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:58.559
<v Speaker 2>mean that scene was aggressive. Let's be honest. That scene

493
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<v Speaker 2>was really got uncomfortable at the time, Like that's the

494
00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:03.599
<v Speaker 2>level they took it to with with with That's what

495
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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. Either Bill marrishrm to make a point there

496
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<v Speaker 2>or her he really likes to beat women.

497
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<v Speaker 1>You know, I gotta keep going back. It seems like

498
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<v Speaker 1>a joke that just doesn't hit. It's like maybe beating

499
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<v Speaker 1>up women was funnier back then.

500
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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

501
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<v Speaker 5>She does fight back, that is the one thing. It's

502
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<v Speaker 5>not like she's just sitting there. She is beating his

503
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<v Speaker 5>ass back too. That's the whole thing that I I mean,

504
00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:28.839
<v Speaker 5>I think it was just it was it was almost

505
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<v Speaker 5>like trauma type.

506
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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, type styles and stuff.

507
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<v Speaker 5>It's just you when you see people who are political

508
00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:40.559
<v Speaker 5>that have, you know, certain views, it's just funny to

509
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<v Speaker 5>see them act certain ways, you know what I'm saying.

510
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<v Speaker 5>Like if that was if that was somebody else, I

511
00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:49.160
<v Speaker 5>probably would be still thinking that it was just silly,

512
00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:50.279
<v Speaker 5>fucking childish humor.

513
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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, right, Yeah, I mean, uh,

514
00:25:56.799 --> 00:25:58.920
<v Speaker 2>the what was what you said earlier Nick before we

515
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<v Speaker 2>started the show, is or maybe it was headless who

516
00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:02.640
<v Speaker 2>thought it was gonna be a good idea to make

517
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<v Speaker 2>this guy in action store. Yo.

518
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<v Speaker 5>One thing I did say, though, I was rather impressed.

519
00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:09.920
<v Speaker 5>I do think it's him, and I'm not trying to

520
00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:11.960
<v Speaker 5>give the guy credit, but there's a time where someone

521
00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:14.279
<v Speaker 5>does a cartwheel and I'm pretty sure he actually does

522
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<v Speaker 5>it himself.

523
00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:17.839
<v Speaker 2>So he does his own stunts.

524
00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:19.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he looks like he does his own stunts and

525
00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:20.680
<v Speaker 5>his own dancing.

526
00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:25.359
<v Speaker 2>That I agree with the dancing. That scene. That scene

527
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:26.160
<v Speaker 2>was awkward as well.

528
00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:28.880
<v Speaker 5>Ye Oh, he grabs his dick and pulls himself forward.

529
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<v Speaker 2>Three times. I was like, yo, what, Yeah, are there

530
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<v Speaker 2>going for humor there? I guess that maybe that was

531
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<v Speaker 2>funny nineteen ninety one, but it doesn't play It didn't.

532
00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:38.440
<v Speaker 2>It didn't play well today, right, it didn't stay in

533
00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:39.279
<v Speaker 2>the test of time.

534
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<v Speaker 1>You really can't tell that. That's the point. It does

535
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<v Speaker 1>have this kind of tim and Eric type low quality low.

536
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Yeah, I mean back then, was Michael Jackson so

537
00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:51.759
<v Speaker 5>grabbing his dick? Maybe that's why I was like, the

538
00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:52.519
<v Speaker 5>fuck noes?

539
00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Probably right, Yeah, I mean it's certainly possible that was

540
00:26:54.920 --> 00:26:56.519
<v Speaker 2>probably still a thing back in ninety one. I don't

541
00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:58.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it was pretty prevalent still. Yeah, that was

542
00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:03.519
<v Speaker 2>kind of the height of the Michael Jackson era. The Yeah,

543
00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:07.279
<v Speaker 2>so it just seems to me that there's there's some

544
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:09.400
<v Speaker 2>sort of message being sent there. I even maybe if

545
00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:11.720
<v Speaker 2>it was even some humor there. I mean, you just

546
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:13.599
<v Speaker 2>don't see that kind of beating the women in films,

547
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:14.599
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. It's just not a very

548
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:15.160
<v Speaker 2>common sight.

549
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, do you have any clips that you have cued

550
00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:19.440
<v Speaker 1>up that we can show?

551
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:22.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you did you ever see the movie I spitch,

552
00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:23.599
<v Speaker 5>I spit on your grave?

553
00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:27.200
<v Speaker 2>I do, I've seen that that's.

554
00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:29.319
<v Speaker 5>In the seventies. I'd say there was some beating of

555
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:33.640
<v Speaker 5>women in that movie. Yeah, they made a bit piss

556
00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:35.480
<v Speaker 5>It's a lot worse.

557
00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:37.839
<v Speaker 4>They did.

558
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:46.079
<v Speaker 1>They made it a lot tamer though that.

559
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:45.559
<v Speaker 5>I put that on and I was like, Yo, this

560
00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:48.079
<v Speaker 5>came out in the seventies. I was like, if they

561
00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:49.880
<v Speaker 5>released this now, I think they'd be like, Yo, that

562
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:50.960
<v Speaker 5>movie is fucked.

563
00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:54.960
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of seventies movies like that.

564
00:27:56.240 --> 00:28:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the the exploitation film film era, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

565
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:07.960
<v Speaker 2>the Uh so, will I pull up a clip here? Then?

566
00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:11.200
<v Speaker 2>So after after Reagan and for Ferraro, they try to

567
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:14.480
<v Speaker 2>kill Bill maher, right, but he escapes, right, and then

568
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:17.799
<v Speaker 2>that's when that's when he that's when he runs. You know,

569
00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:19.680
<v Speaker 2>he goes right back to the pizza shop. He's got

570
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:23.200
<v Speaker 2>to go deliver more pizzas, right, right, and then that's

571
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:25.720
<v Speaker 2>when he runs into uh Michael Millikan. I got that

572
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:28.799
<v Speaker 2>clipped up right here, Holding on one second, police and

573
00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Michael Millican, are you you fellas familiar with some of

574
00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:31.640
<v Speaker 2>that backstory?

575
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:33.680
<v Speaker 5>Sounds like Pullican.

576
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:38.079
<v Speaker 2>He was a Wall Street fella. He he kind of

577
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:41.400
<v Speaker 2>invented this, uh this, well, he was he was an

578
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:43.880
<v Speaker 2>executive in a major Wall Street firm that that was

579
00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:46.759
<v Speaker 2>he ended up running into the ground in nineteen ninety

580
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:49.359
<v Speaker 2>when the scandal. When the scandal fell out, he was

581
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:51.480
<v Speaker 2>basically running a Ponzi scheme kind of deal with these

582
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:56.640
<v Speaker 2>uh these quote unquote junk bonds, right, so these high yield,

583
00:28:56.680 --> 00:28:58.720
<v Speaker 2>hot high interest kind of bond type deals and he

584
00:28:58.799 --> 00:29:05.519
<v Speaker 2>was selling and broke into that freeze up. Yeah you

585
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:08.839
<v Speaker 2>get now, So, yeah, he's broken these deals. He gets

586
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:11.000
<v Speaker 2>busted in nineteen ninety for all this stuff, the whole

587
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:13.440
<v Speaker 2>for this legendary Wall Street firm has to go bankrupt,

588
00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:18.000
<v Speaker 2>right so he I mean, whether or what connections he

589
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:21.359
<v Speaker 2>had back to Donald Trump back then, I'm not exactly clear.

590
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:23.559
<v Speaker 2>I know in the film they claimed that Donald Trump

591
00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:27.599
<v Speaker 2>bailed him out, bailed Millican out, don't. I don't know

592
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:30.480
<v Speaker 2>how that's possible, because you know, they also included the

593
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:33.359
<v Speaker 2>film how Donald Trump is at war with the Federal

594
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Reserve because he was this is at a time when

595
00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:37.240
<v Speaker 2>he was at the height of his beef with the

596
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Federal Reserve, who would shortly thereafter this film cut him

597
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:44.480
<v Speaker 2>off financially speaking, and he uh, that's why he does

598
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:46.920
<v Speaker 2>all his banking over in Germany ever since, because the

599
00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:49.359
<v Speaker 2>American banks would not give him any more credit or

600
00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:51.319
<v Speaker 2>anything else like that, they wouldn't do any business with him.

601
00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:53.839
<v Speaker 2>But these and these kinds of things, I didn't notice

602
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:57.079
<v Speaker 2>that those were embedded in the dialogue between mar and

603
00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:00.240
<v Speaker 2>Trump later. But one thing that's that's incorporated wall is

604
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:02.440
<v Speaker 2>this relationship with Trump and Millican. Now I'm not familiar

605
00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:04.599
<v Speaker 2>with it. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, because they

606
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:07.440
<v Speaker 2>certainly have a relationship. After Millican gets out of prison.

607
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:10.160
<v Speaker 2>So Milican goes to prison and I think nineteen ninety

608
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:12.920
<v Speaker 2>does ten years, he gets out and he's doing he's

609
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:16.160
<v Speaker 2>playing he's playing tennis with with little DJT down there.

610
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:21.039
<v Speaker 2>It's a Marlago got a newspaper article somewhere.

611
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:26.359
<v Speaker 1>The Milican Institute is a lot like WEF for a

612
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:29.319
<v Speaker 1>lot of different industries, and so he puts on this

613
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Milkan Institute I guess conference like every couple of years.

614
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:39.839
<v Speaker 1>He's got a finance for him in twenty twenty five,

615
00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:46.559
<v Speaker 1>so this guy runs the entire bond market into the ground.

616
00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:49.440
<v Speaker 1>And now he comes back and he's been financed to

617
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:56.519
<v Speaker 1>have this, you know, WEF style conference every year. So

618
00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.400
<v Speaker 1>he's he's definitely a big player. But at the same

619
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:03.279
<v Speaker 1>it's like, why would anybody trust this guy? I remember

620
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:06.880
<v Speaker 1>the junk bond thing. I mean, why why are they

621
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:09.319
<v Speaker 1>going to his financial Institute's all he's gonna do is

622
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:10.880
<v Speaker 1>teach you how to make Ponzi schemes.

623
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:14.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm confused by that as well. I don't know

624
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:16.839
<v Speaker 2>how the man's worth six billion dollars today, you know

625
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:19.160
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. He defrauded all these people. But again

626
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:22.079
<v Speaker 2>it so it's these weird circumstances I think surrounding these

627
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:24.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of Ponzi schemes. I have a lot of questions about.

628
00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:26.519
<v Speaker 2>And it surrounds Jeffrey Epstein as well, because he ran

629
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:29.039
<v Speaker 2>his own Ponzi scheme that he didn't get held accountab before.

630
00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:31.799
<v Speaker 2>Now Michael Millican, I guess kind of got held accountable

631
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:34.119
<v Speaker 2>for his But again, at the same time, like how's

632
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:36.119
<v Speaker 2>he got all this money today? But you can see

633
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:39.119
<v Speaker 2>here this is a Trump and some tennis pro beat

634
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:43.599
<v Speaker 2>disgraced financier Michael Milkin and some other tennis pro at

635
00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:46.920
<v Speaker 2>a Trump golf tournament or Trump tennis tournament marl Ago.

636
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:50.279
<v Speaker 2>It's a pro pro am tournament. The Trump posted every

637
00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:52.519
<v Speaker 2>year and then this was the fourth year that he

638
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:54.799
<v Speaker 2>did it, and he finally won his own tournament. So

639
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:57.279
<v Speaker 2>fifty three year old Donald Trump and at the time

640
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:00.839
<v Speaker 2>is uh, he just got his gaalpal back. My Milannia

641
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:04.680
<v Speaker 2>and os or nows whatever her sprounced his now wife obviously.

642
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:07.039
<v Speaker 2>But you know, so this is going back a bit.

643
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.359
<v Speaker 2>I believe this was two thousand, two thousands, so shortly

644
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:11.599
<v Speaker 2>after Millican got out of prison.

645
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Right.

646
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:17.240
<v Speaker 2>This is the Sun sentinl Sentinel, YEP, February two thousand,

647
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:21.519
<v Speaker 2>So you know, there's obviously some deeper, longer standing connections

648
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:25.160
<v Speaker 2>between those two Millican and Trump. Whether or not the

649
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.319
<v Speaker 2>movie was correct in their dialogue of saying that that

650
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Trump bailed him out, I'm not sure he bailed him

651
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:31.519
<v Speaker 2>out of because he didn't. You know, he didn't. Milican

652
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:33.319
<v Speaker 2>didn't get bailed out. And that movie was the ninety

653
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:35.079
<v Speaker 2>one and there's any bailout. It seemed like it could have been,

654
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:37.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, later, right when the dude got out of prison,

655
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:39.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, after the film was made. So that part's

656
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:42.240
<v Speaker 2>kind of confusing to me. But what is interesting is, uh,

657
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Milican's associated there, the one that didn't go to prison

658
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:49.960
<v Speaker 2>for that scandal. Right was very closely associated with Jeffrey Epstein.

659
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Yep, this is the time for it. I mean, when

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00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:56.359
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about the height of Jeffrey Epstein's power, it's

661
00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:59.240
<v Speaker 1>like ninety ninety one through ninety ninety nine, that was

662
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:00.440
<v Speaker 1>all his decade. You know.

663
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:04.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, no, even you're you're spot on with the nineties.

664
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:07.000
<v Speaker 2>But it went before that. So Epstein really made his name.

665
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:09.880
<v Speaker 2>And I believe it was nineteen eighty five and they

666
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:12.079
<v Speaker 2>got maybe it was eighty nine and we look it up.

667
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:14.519
<v Speaker 2>So Epstein was running a at the time was the

668
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.759
<v Speaker 2>largest Ponzi scheme in Wall Street history. You gotta busted

669
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:21.720
<v Speaker 2>for right, him and his associates, Steve Hoffenberg. Hoffenberg did

670
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:23.400
<v Speaker 2>nearly twenty years. He just got out a few years

671
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:25.119
<v Speaker 2>ago and died a couple of years after he got out.

672
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:30.480
<v Speaker 2>So they were running a debt you know, kind of

673
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:33.119
<v Speaker 2>debt collection agencies. They buy up debt and they go

674
00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:36.000
<v Speaker 2>collect it and stuff. And it was called Tower Financial.

675
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:40.160
<v Speaker 2>And Steve Hoffenberger went to prison for you know, like

676
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:43.640
<v Speaker 2>I said, a very long time, Jeffrey Epstein and Hoffenberger

677
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:48.519
<v Speaker 2>paid restitution. Jeffrey Epstein, no prison, no restitution, And they

678
00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:50.559
<v Speaker 2>were partners in the in the in the venture, yeah,

679
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:54.279
<v Speaker 2>Towers Financial Corporation. I believe he did eighteen. He did

680
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:58.160
<v Speaker 2>eighteen years from so he collapsed in nineteen ninety three. Actually, okay,

681
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:00.319
<v Speaker 2>so shortly after this time I was thinking was just

682
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:02.680
<v Speaker 2>before the nineties. It was ninety three. So ninety five

683
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:05.680
<v Speaker 2>he played guilty. Four hundred and seventy five million dollars

684
00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:09.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty years prison. He did. He did eighteen plus a

685
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:11.679
<v Speaker 2>million dollar fine and four hundred sixty three million dollars restitution.

686
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:14.159
<v Speaker 2>So he got all of the restitution and all the

687
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:17.000
<v Speaker 2>and all the crime for that, right. Epstein didn't get anything.

688
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:21.679
<v Speaker 2>And in that same note, you have Milken's uh buddy

689
00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:26.199
<v Speaker 2>Leon Black there right, this is this was his associate

690
00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:30.679
<v Speaker 2>in that in that scandal there at Drexel Burnham Lambert.

691
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:31.079
<v Speaker 6>Right.

692
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:35.960
<v Speaker 2>This uh again very uh, very well respected Wall Street

693
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:38.519
<v Speaker 2>firm that they they ran into the ground in this scandal.

694
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Milicin goes to prison. Leon Black does not. Leon Black.

695
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:46.039
<v Speaker 2>As as you can see here, woman ends lawsuit claiming

696
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:52.039
<v Speaker 2>Leon Black raped her in Epstein's man Manhattan residence. Leon

697
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.079
<v Speaker 2>Black greed to pay sixty two and a half million

698
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:58.199
<v Speaker 2>dollars to sell Epstein related to you know, you know rapes,

699
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:02.239
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. This dude's all over the

700
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:04.280
<v Speaker 2>This has been paying out like a lot of money

701
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:10.199
<v Speaker 2>for you know Epstein stuff, right. He's even getting investigated

702
00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:13.519
<v Speaker 2>by the SEC here investigation of the Epstein Black relationship,

703
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:17.639
<v Speaker 2>in any relationship between Epstein and Apollo Global Management. So

704
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:21.360
<v Speaker 2>when when Milicine went to prison, his buddy, his buddy

705
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:24.480
<v Speaker 2>again walked Leon Black and he started he started a different,

706
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:27.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, fond er management thing. I don't know if

707
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:30.000
<v Speaker 2>it's a Ponzi scheme, but you know, obviously he's not

708
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:32.039
<v Speaker 2>doing he's not doing great things in life. It seems

709
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:34.400
<v Speaker 2>he's doing some pretty nefarious shit going around rape and stuff,

710
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:37.480
<v Speaker 2>raping young young kids with Epstein there for a number

711
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:41.000
<v Speaker 2>of years and again paying restitution you know, to the

712
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:43.639
<v Speaker 2>tens of millions of dollars here in scenes in recent years.

713
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Why this dude isn't under more scrutiny and we're still

714
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:49.320
<v Speaker 2>walking everyone's screaming about an Epstein list. That's probably a

715
00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:52.880
<v Speaker 2>different story altogether, But what I'm saying is, in nineteen

716
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:56.840
<v Speaker 2>ninety one, in a film about pizza, we have characters

717
00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:59.079
<v Speaker 2>that are deeply related to the Epstein saga such as

718
00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:03.239
<v Speaker 2>Michael Milliken, Donald Trump right through, you know, through these

719
00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:09.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of these kind of connections. Absolutely, yeah, I'm surprised,

720
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:11.960
<v Speaker 2>aren't on. No, Coon didn't make an appearance in this film.

721
00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's too fun of it, right, he was a big,

722
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:18.239
<v Speaker 2>big producer at the time.

723
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I hope everybody in the audience realizes that the Hollywood

724
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:27.679
<v Speaker 1>movie industry has been the oldest form of money laundering

725
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:30.800
<v Speaker 1>since basically forever.

726
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:33.679
<v Speaker 5>I mean, like I did, what about that with this movie?

727
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:38.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it went back to the theater too. They've been

728
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:42.920
<v Speaker 1>using the Mob has been using entertainment purposes as money

729
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:46.599
<v Speaker 1>laundering forever. So this movie does represent, you know, a

730
00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:49.079
<v Speaker 1>big pit of money that they just decided to throw

731
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:51.880
<v Speaker 1>all this money into and just light it on fire.

732
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:55.039
<v Speaker 1>Because I doubt it came out of the out of

733
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:58.320
<v Speaker 1>the theaters or got any sort of reference at all,

734
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>but you could tell that it had to out of

735
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:03.719
<v Speaker 1>a budget. So I think there's a lot of Mob

736
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:06.039
<v Speaker 1>and underworld type connections around.

737
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Sure, now I agree with you for sure. And uh

738
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:15.000
<v Speaker 2>what So the clip I'm bringing up is actually him

739
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:17.559
<v Speaker 2>and Bob Woodward because Woodward serves as this he calls

740
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:20.400
<v Speaker 2>himself deep Thrope, right right, speaking of the Mob, right,

741
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:22.400
<v Speaker 2>you were just some about mob and film productions and

742
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:27.360
<v Speaker 2>money laundering. Right, Well, the Mob financed the first pornographic film,

743
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Deep Throat, amongst other films in that era, right in

744
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:35.320
<v Speaker 2>the early seventies, and that was premiered at a at

745
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:38.400
<v Speaker 2>a theater there and in West Hollywood, the Pussycat Theater,

746
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:42.239
<v Speaker 2>which was a process owned an operator, you know, theater

747
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:46.480
<v Speaker 2>there processed church. So you have, you know, some weird

748
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:50.039
<v Speaker 2>cult stuff and uh, you know, I'm sensibly human trafficking.

749
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:53.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's certainly drug trafficking surrounding those cults, you know,

750
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:57.559
<v Speaker 2>and revolving around you know, the financial aspects and production

751
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:00.639
<v Speaker 2>of these films. You know, it's it's a strange, strange bedfellows.

752
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:02.440
<v Speaker 2>But I think that's when he seems strange. I think

753
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:05.519
<v Speaker 2>it's very common in you know, mongst Hollywood. So you

754
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:08.960
<v Speaker 2>know these Uh yeah, it makes me, it makes me think, uh,

755
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:10.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, what, what was the purpose of being financing

756
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:12.880
<v Speaker 2>this film, right, or even again even making this film.

757
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:15.599
<v Speaker 2>This movie is so obscure it makes no it makes

758
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:23.360
<v Speaker 2>no logical sense to me that it even exists. I mean, uh,

759
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:24.320
<v Speaker 2>you got.

760
00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:25.000
<v Speaker 1>That clip pulled up.

761
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my my froze.

762
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't see it.

763
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:38.039
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm pros up. There we go. So this

764
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:42.199
<v Speaker 2>is bigger than you think. You a little bit too

765
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:43.440
<v Speaker 2>far here one one second?

766
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:53.880
<v Speaker 4>What now I can't talk here and follow me?

767
00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:54.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm too close.

768
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:57.039
<v Speaker 4>I I'm not following you.

769
00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:57.679
<v Speaker 1>Who are you?

770
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:02.360
<v Speaker 4>I just think it would be personal deep.

771
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:07.280
<v Speaker 2>So I mean and again is Bob Woodward's the guy

772
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:09.639
<v Speaker 2>who met with Deep Throw for the whole Watergate thing.

773
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:13.280
<v Speaker 2>And also, strange enough, Woodward has been one of the

774
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:15.760
<v Speaker 2>most ardent critics of Donald Trump and making all sorts

775
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:17.480
<v Speaker 2>of I think he's even won prizes over his books

776
00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:19.960
<v Speaker 2>or whatnot that he's written here in the in the

777
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:23.280
<v Speaker 2>Trump Ara. So another connection still from nineteen ninety one

778
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:27.159
<v Speaker 2>with these same characters right in the film to our

779
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:32.719
<v Speaker 2>modern era of politics, right with Bob Woodward here. So

780
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:34.760
<v Speaker 2>you got Bob Woodward with the Trump tapes, and you know,

781
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:39.039
<v Speaker 2>he's always all over the media and whatnot in recent years.

782
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:43.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, again, folks can have I'm I'm all about criticizing,

783
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:47.599
<v Speaker 2>especially politicians with legitimate criticism, but this is one of

784
00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:51.039
<v Speaker 2>these guys that seems that, you know, the Russia Gate

785
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:53.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of narratives, right, the stuff that was clearly bought

786
00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:56.159
<v Speaker 2>and paid for kind of propaganda from the Clinton campaign,

787
00:39:56.199 --> 00:39:58.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of deals. These guys seem to be touting those

788
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.679
<v Speaker 2>lines and perpetrating at the guy I was referencing before,

789
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:04.159
<v Speaker 2>Michael is a cough right, being another guy in the

790
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:05.440
<v Speaker 2>media doing those same things.

791
00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think when it comes to Bob Woodward, what

792
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:10.639
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people don't understand is that he was

793
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:11.760
<v Speaker 1>naval intelligence.

794
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:12.920
<v Speaker 2>There you go, so.

795
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:17.880
<v Speaker 1>All of his stories were basically planted. You've got kind

796
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:20.719
<v Speaker 1>of a secret war going on between the CIA and

797
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:25.119
<v Speaker 1>UH naval intelligence that's been going on since the CIA

798
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:28.360
<v Speaker 1>came into existence, and so Bob Woodward is sort of

799
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:31.519
<v Speaker 1>there to give the black guy to the CIA, and

800
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:33.840
<v Speaker 1>then they go back and forth at each other. But

801
00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:38.639
<v Speaker 1>it's it's really stupid. I mean, the whole few intelligence

802
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:39.880
<v Speaker 1>and I mean.

803
00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:43.440
<v Speaker 2>No, you're right, it's certainly going on for sure. And

804
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:47.559
<v Speaker 2>I'll highlight this count from Brian McKinney. Bomer's company is

805
00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:49.840
<v Speaker 2>called boy Love Productions, and I'll be ginting to that

806
00:40:49.880 --> 00:40:56.880
<v Speaker 2>point here shortly that is a kid love a boy

807
00:40:56.960 --> 00:41:00.559
<v Speaker 2>Love Uh, you're right, as kid Love Production. Did you

808
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:02.800
<v Speaker 2>write kid love production is my mistake. Yet it might

809
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:09.800
<v Speaker 2>be No, it just gets kid love. You're right, the yes,

810
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:12.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think you know when we're serves

811
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:13.679
<v Speaker 2>a role. But what he's doing in this film, I

812
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:16.760
<v Speaker 2>have no idea what he's playing this uh, this character

813
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:19.760
<v Speaker 2>here for uh for Bill Maher's mystery. Right, I'll play

814
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:21.480
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more of this clip because he uh,

815
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:25.199
<v Speaker 2>he kind of goes into this, you know, the overarching conspiracy.

816
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:26.760
<v Speaker 2>I guess right deep.

817
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh that.

818
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:42.679
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I just want to pause it again. Isn't it

819
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:44.880
<v Speaker 2>weird to both the Deep Throat and the porno and

820
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:47.079
<v Speaker 2>the scandal came out at the same time, you know

821
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:47.400
<v Speaker 2>what I mean?

822
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that was why he did it, is because

823
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:54.719
<v Speaker 1>that was the talk of the town, and so he

824
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:57.480
<v Speaker 1>was making a reference to that movie and it was

825
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:02.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, was he okay, yeah, it was making a

826
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:04.679
<v Speaker 1>reference to that movie because I think that was what

827
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:08.400
<v Speaker 1>was getting the headlines and so but still at the

828
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:11.119
<v Speaker 1>same time, you do have this kind of connotation of

829
00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:15.360
<v Speaker 1>maybe being like secret or underhanded with the whole deep

830
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:19.880
<v Speaker 1>ideas like deep intelligence or whatever. But deep Throat, he

831
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:32.119
<v Speaker 1>was definitely talking about the other type.

832
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:33.880
<v Speaker 2>What top flower. I can't hear you. You're in over

833
00:42:33.920 --> 00:42:36.440
<v Speaker 2>your head, Almo, this is bigger than you think.

834
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Who are you?

835
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:40.880
<v Speaker 4>You don't recognize me?

836
00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm famous?

837
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:42.880
<v Speaker 4>Come on?

838
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:45.440
<v Speaker 7>Come on?

839
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Did you see Wired? All the President's ben.

840
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:53.920
<v Speaker 2>What's wrong with that?

841
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:54.119
<v Speaker 6>What?

842
00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:57.280
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't my idea to use me as a character

843
00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:00.400
<v Speaker 2>and Wired it didn't like work, but it wasn't daring

844
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:04.320
<v Speaker 2>artistic decision. So I feel like that's like whatever this

845
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:06.159
<v Speaker 2>Wired movie is, like, this is a hit piece of

846
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:09.159
<v Speaker 2>between within within Hollywood, write some sort of internal beef

847
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:15.719
<v Speaker 2>where they're talking shit about you know, the the other film.

848
00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:18.159
<v Speaker 4>Right, other obscure movies right there.

849
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:20.519
<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah movie. No one's gonna get that reference, right

850
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:21.639
<v Speaker 2>unless you have to look it up.

851
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:23.480
<v Speaker 4>And I was right, well, I think that's what they're

852
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:24.119
<v Speaker 4>making fun of.

853
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:27.159
<v Speaker 1>They're making fun of the fact that it was so

854
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:31.360
<v Speaker 1>obscure that nobody could possibly think that he's famous from

855
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:32.440
<v Speaker 1>that role.

856
00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Right right? You're a great sellout?

857
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:40.440
<v Speaker 1>What you sold out?

858
00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:40.760
<v Speaker 6>Man?

859
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:43.280
<v Speaker 2>You're my hero with the seventies.

860
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.440
<v Speaker 5>You run down the prist in the United States, straight

861
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:47.559
<v Speaker 5>to court, the history.

862
00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:49.599
<v Speaker 2>What do you do?

863
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:51.719
<v Speaker 1>You go with a quick block like everything.

864
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:53.960
<v Speaker 2>So I just want to play that line with this

865
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:56.559
<v Speaker 2>woodword piece, because that obviously is implying what I what

866
00:43:56.599 --> 00:43:58.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, I think got substantiates what I'm saying, is

867
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:03.039
<v Speaker 2>each one of these character that Mayor's encountering, right, he's he's,

868
00:44:03.079 --> 00:44:05.039
<v Speaker 2>he's you know, he's telling them to their face that

869
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:07.280
<v Speaker 2>whatever beef he has with him, right right? You know,

870
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:09.119
<v Speaker 2>this is the bps with Woodward. He used to be

871
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:11.800
<v Speaker 2>my hero because you know, X, Y and Z. But

872
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:14.599
<v Speaker 2>so all that stuff's nonsense, you know, the whole again,

873
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:17.760
<v Speaker 2>all spooky stuff surrounding that and Woodward. But you know

874
00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:19.440
<v Speaker 2>the fact that Woodward's around the day, it makes me

875
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:21.079
<v Speaker 2>wonder what is involved in the day is that O

876
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:24.000
<v Speaker 2>and I business still, you know, because Trump surrounds himself

877
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:25.639
<v Speaker 2>with O and I. Maybe he's kind of like the

878
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:28.920
<v Speaker 2>uh you know, the Trump uh anti propaganda guy, right,

879
00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:31.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, the guy that the controlled opposition type of

880
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:33.920
<v Speaker 2>character for within the O and I circle. I don't know.

881
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:37.119
<v Speaker 2>I just think it's interesting that, you know, I went

882
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:39.519
<v Speaker 2>seemingly the CIA took out Nixon and you have an

883
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:41.280
<v Speaker 2>O n I guy working with him. So I think

884
00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:43.679
<v Speaker 2>at some point in time, folks jump teams, you know,

885
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:46.400
<v Speaker 2>and whatnot, because at the end of the day. The

886
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:49.239
<v Speaker 2>the folks that comprise this CIA, especially back at that era,

887
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:52.280
<v Speaker 2>was Air Force intelligence and Navy intelligence guys a lot

888
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:52.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of times.

889
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:54.400
<v Speaker 4>And Mormons.

890
00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, overwhelmingly Mormons.

891
00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:00.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean that's the thing this whole movie. He

892
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.639
<v Speaker 1>is a bunch of surface level socialism. Like it's all

893
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:06.119
<v Speaker 1>these Democrat platforms that you know, go back to the

894
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:09.880
<v Speaker 1>sixties and all the rage they felt back then, and

895
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:13.199
<v Speaker 1>it's it's all sort of translated into this movie as

896
00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:15.280
<v Speaker 1>being sort of like the fall from grace from the

897
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:17.559
<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party.

898
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:19.800
<v Speaker 2>No, there's definitely a lot of that here, yeah, for sure.

899
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:23.599
<v Speaker 2>And I often wonder where the line is between you know,

900
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:27.280
<v Speaker 2>somebody like Bill Maher of Kid Love Productions in a

901
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:31.719
<v Speaker 2>film called The Pizza Man, you know, and you know

902
00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:34.840
<v Speaker 2>again who's calling the shots here, right? I mean he

903
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:36.400
<v Speaker 2>he seems like he may be a player in some

904
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:38.440
<v Speaker 2>sort of network in that kind of regard, right, Like

905
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:42.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, the writer's one thing, and again he's scrite enough,

906
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:44.199
<v Speaker 2>he's from Riverside County. I don't know what his connections

907
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:46.960
<v Speaker 2>are to scientology, but it's odd that the year before

908
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:49.679
<v Speaker 2>this film, in nineteen ninety, he writes Pretty Woman, which

909
00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:54.000
<v Speaker 2>at the time Richard Year was associated with Scientology. If

910
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:57.400
<v Speaker 2>not a scientologist, he's at least done courses, right, Like,

911
00:45:57.440 --> 00:45:59.400
<v Speaker 2>that's at least is confirmed now. I actually I think

912
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:02.039
<v Speaker 2>he was far more better than the Scientology network at

913
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:04.239
<v Speaker 2>the time. A pretty woman, because if you recall shortly

914
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:06.719
<v Speaker 2>thereafter and I don't know handless of that, this is

915
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:08.440
<v Speaker 2>something you may recall. I know you're a few years younger

916
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:11.920
<v Speaker 2>than myself and Nick, but and but you know, Nick

917
00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:13.880
<v Speaker 2>may recall this. At least this is something that was

918
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:16.360
<v Speaker 2>rolling around my parts in the Midwest and Ohio there

919
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:19.840
<v Speaker 2>in the early nineties. Richard Gear used to jam Gerbils

920
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.480
<v Speaker 2>up as butt. This is way before the interwebs, right,

921
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:25.440
<v Speaker 2>some there was some network of information that that that

922
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:28.079
<v Speaker 2>rumor spread. So once I joined the military, I realized

923
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:29.920
<v Speaker 2>folks on the West coast had heard that story, and

924
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:31.599
<v Speaker 2>folks on the East coast that heard that story. I'm

925
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:34.000
<v Speaker 2>wait a second, it's like nineteen ninety three, who the

926
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:37.440
<v Speaker 2>hell's you know transmitting these these narratives all around the

927
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:41.039
<v Speaker 2>US could be the cult root, right, it.

928
00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:43.639
<v Speaker 1>Was too fucking bizarre not to talk about.

929
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Like everybody was talking about That's what I'm saying, Like

930
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:49.519
<v Speaker 2>it's uh at that time, I specifically remember being a child,

931
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.039
<v Speaker 2>like you know, the young teenager. I'm what gerbils in here?

932
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:54.159
<v Speaker 2>What is going on in life? This dude, this dude's

933
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:56.159
<v Speaker 2>out of control? You know what I mean. But you know,

934
00:46:56.280 --> 00:46:57.800
<v Speaker 2>whether or not it happened or not, it's something that

935
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:00.840
<v Speaker 2>scientology would do to the former remember believing like that,

936
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:02.840
<v Speaker 2>like oh, well, you know what I mean, Like I know,

937
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:05.400
<v Speaker 2>they divulger secrets. I'm not saying he had to have

938
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:06.760
<v Speaker 2>done that. They could just be like, oh, we'll just

939
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:08.800
<v Speaker 2>pretend like he told us that. We'll just tell everybody.

940
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:10.559
<v Speaker 4>That that's a hell of a network.

941
00:47:11.239 --> 00:47:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Right, But I mean, right, Nick, did I mean did

942
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:16.000
<v Speaker 2>you recall here and that's the like early novels.

943
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:19.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, A bunch of people in that they remember that. Yeah,

944
00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:21.519
<v Speaker 5>I remember that back in the day.

945
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:24.800
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying, Like, that's it was an impressive

946
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:28.400
<v Speaker 2>it was. It was an impressive thing to uh, you

947
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:29.199
<v Speaker 2>know totally.

948
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:33.000
<v Speaker 5>It seemed to go along with him becoming famous more famous.

949
00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:35.400
<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying, right after right after Pretty Woman, Right

950
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:36.239
<v Speaker 2>after Pretty Woman.

951
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:38.159
<v Speaker 5>When everybody knew who he was, that's when he all

952
00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:40.199
<v Speaker 5>of a sudden he had jebbles in his eyes. You

953
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:41.679
<v Speaker 5>didn't hear the story until.

954
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:46.119
<v Speaker 2>Then, right, right, Well, I mean he's associated with some

955
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:48.280
<v Speaker 2>interesting projects in the eighties, which which caused me to

956
00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:51.440
<v Speaker 2>also believe he's you know, has some scientology or even

957
00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:54.480
<v Speaker 2>dare I say process connections when he stars in films

958
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:56.440
<v Speaker 2>such as The Cotton Club, right which The Cotton Club

959
00:47:56.559 --> 00:48:00.599
<v Speaker 2>was the culmination of the project between Coke Came Bob

960
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:03.559
<v Speaker 2>Evans and Roy Raiding. The Son is the essentially the

961
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:06.639
<v Speaker 2>East Coast process in West Coast Coast process, guys, as

962
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:09.039
<v Speaker 2>it started by Moretary in his Ultimate Evil book, which

963
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:11.639
<v Speaker 2>you know makes some great points and making that argument.

964
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:13.440
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you know the star of that film would

965
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:17.000
<v Speaker 2>be would ultimately be Richard gear So you know he's

966
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:19.119
<v Speaker 2>he had some weird projects in the eighties. But yeah,

967
00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:21.599
<v Speaker 2>it was seemingly after Pretty Woman he was, you know,

968
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:23.639
<v Speaker 2>suddenly Gerbils were flying out of his ass.

969
00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Could you imagine being Richard Gere walking into a room

970
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:31.800
<v Speaker 1>full of people and then thinking to yourself, how many

971
00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:34.639
<v Speaker 1>of these people are thinking about Gerbils in my ass? Right?

972
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:37.800
<v Speaker 5>Especially like if he's never done it in that story

973
00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:45.760
<v Speaker 5>goes around, Yeah.

974
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:45.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh, man, Gerbils story was even the movie.

975
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:48.440
<v Speaker 5>It would screwed up. What if like a woman comes

976
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:50.000
<v Speaker 5>up to you and like kind of makes it known

977
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:51.880
<v Speaker 5>that she's interested in you. It's like, damn, like does

978
00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:53.199
<v Speaker 5>she she into that type of ship?

979
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

980
00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:56.559
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, right, you're like, fuck, do I gotta worry about

981
00:48:56.599 --> 00:48:58.480
<v Speaker 5>drubbles being brought up in the bedroom at some point

982
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:00.119
<v Speaker 5>because she takes this real.

983
00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:06.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I don't know this writer, the writer of

984
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:08.480
<v Speaker 2>this film's background, but you know, again he's from Riverside

985
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:10.159
<v Speaker 2>and that he did right pretty woman. So it makes

986
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:11.360
<v Speaker 2>me wonder scientology.

987
00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:15.679
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps I think I'm gonna send Richard gear a hamster wheel.

988
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:19.199
<v Speaker 2>There you go. Maybe maybe that's why I moved out

989
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:20.840
<v Speaker 2>of the U. I think he left America. Maybe that's

990
00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:23.480
<v Speaker 2>why he left America because too many people knew you

991
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:26.239
<v Speaker 2>got everybody went to. People were just send him hamster

992
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:28.960
<v Speaker 2>wheels and fucking making Gerbil jokes to him. You know,

993
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:30.519
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I gotta go to I gotta get the

994
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:31.960
<v Speaker 2>fuck out of here bad.

995
00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:35.800
<v Speaker 4>Enough I die that dude. I buy that.

996
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, that's funny. The yeah, the I don't know,

997
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:46.440
<v Speaker 2>just we'll say that went forward, seeing like he's got

998
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:48.719
<v Speaker 2>a real like whoever whoever wrote it was mar that

999
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:50.800
<v Speaker 2>you know wrote the words or impacted the words in

1000
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:53.239
<v Speaker 2>that scene, or was the writer himself? Like somebody had

1001
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:58.559
<v Speaker 2>a real beef, like personal beef with Bob Woodward. So

1002
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:00.719
<v Speaker 2>so I think we've seen a couple of beast maybe

1003
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:03.159
<v Speaker 2>with the mayor, you know what I mean, like that

1004
00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:05.199
<v Speaker 2>that beef with with what seemed a little bit more

1005
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:06.679
<v Speaker 2>personal than political to.

1006
00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:10.199
<v Speaker 1>Me, Michael Ducaccas too. He was talking about do you

1007
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:11.760
<v Speaker 1>still think I'm unelectable?

1008
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Michaelcaucas Is right, we left out Michael Ducacus what you

1009
00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:20.480
<v Speaker 2>know what to be honest with he was easy to

1010
00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:22.719
<v Speaker 2>forget and politically speaking, he's easy easy to forget that

1011
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:23.920
<v Speaker 2>he was in this film.

1012
00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:25.199
<v Speaker 1>It's more obscurity.

1013
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:27.519
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think it's funny how he was like the

1014
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:30.639
<v Speaker 5>cheapest paid person, Like what do you say he took

1015
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:32.840
<v Speaker 5>a wild turkey and a pack of smokes of some ship,

1016
00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:34.280
<v Speaker 5>right and I don't know, some stuff like.

1017
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:36.199
<v Speaker 2>That, right.

1018
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:41.519
<v Speaker 1>He was the lowest rat opposition to uh Rob. Was

1019
00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:43.639
<v Speaker 1>that Robert Reagan or George Bush?

1020
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:45.920
<v Speaker 2>No, I believe that was the same same? Was that

1021
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:46.239
<v Speaker 2>the same?

1022
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:46.400
<v Speaker 1>No?

1023
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:48.440
<v Speaker 2>That was Mondale and Ferraro, wasn't it? So that would

1024
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:50.880
<v Speaker 2>have been George Bush and uh Inducaucus.

1025
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:54.679
<v Speaker 1>Right, But I mean like he got unseated because he

1026
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:58.119
<v Speaker 1>was inside of uh what was it. Uh he wore

1027
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:00.480
<v Speaker 1>like a Bundy costume and everybody made fun of him

1028
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:04.719
<v Speaker 1>because of it. I'm gonna look it up, Caucus.

1029
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:10.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember that one. Yeah, this piece, he's somewhat

1030
00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:12.880
<v Speaker 2>still relevant today and in respect to the fact that

1031
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:15.840
<v Speaker 2>his son is is all over Republican politics and has

1032
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:20.719
<v Speaker 2>been that. Jason Shavitz fellow, the multi level the multi

1033
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:24.800
<v Speaker 2>level marketing uh executive from Utah, the Mormon fella who

1034
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:27.480
<v Speaker 2>was a congressman for a couple couple of sessions, maybe

1035
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:30.079
<v Speaker 2>three maybe six years. He's now I think he's a

1036
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:32.880
<v Speaker 2>political commentator on Fox Now. But yeah, Shavitz is a

1037
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:37.679
<v Speaker 2>step son. He's married to Shavitz's mother, Right, So.

1038
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:42.119
<v Speaker 1>He looked unmanly in this picture. It wasn't a buddy costume.

1039
00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:46.880
<v Speaker 1>That was the other guy. So Dan Quayle, No, that's

1040
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:49.599
<v Speaker 1>Michael Ducacas sitting inside of a tank and he looks

1041
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:51.440
<v Speaker 1>totally awkward.

1042
00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:51.880
<v Speaker 4>And that's it.

1043
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:56.480
<v Speaker 1>He looks like Tim Walls exactly Tim Wall's character.

1044
00:51:56.800 --> 00:51:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when he when Tim Wallas tried LARPA as the

1045
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:02.239
<v Speaker 2>military guy. Now who was in the bunny costume?

1046
00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:02.400
<v Speaker 8>Then?

1047
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:03.119
<v Speaker 2>Was it Reagan?

1048
00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:06.599
<v Speaker 1>No, that was the guy who ran against Bush Junior.

1049
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:09.480
<v Speaker 4>He uh, he had it.

1050
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Now, it wasn't Gore. It was the other guy in

1051
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:15.000
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and four.

1052
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Tim Kaine.

1053
00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't Tim Kaine, No, he'd be he was.

1054
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:29.960
<v Speaker 2>For he was the oh oh carry yeah, John Carey.

1055
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:32.840
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, the Skull and Bones election. What was I thinking?

1056
00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:37.480
<v Speaker 1>He wore this like full body like, uh, what is

1057
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:40.239
<v Speaker 1>it like chemical suit or whatever doing one of his

1058
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:44.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, presidential tours or whatever, and so it looked

1059
00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:46.880
<v Speaker 1>like a Bundy costume, and everybody was commenting how he

1060
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:48.880
<v Speaker 1>looked like he was wearing a buddy costume.

1061
00:52:49.719 --> 00:52:53.599
<v Speaker 4>It was stupid, you know. They always, yeah, they always.

1062
00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:55.719
<v Speaker 1>Come up with these stupid pictures that make it a

1063
00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:58.119
<v Speaker 1>person look bad, and then the media runs with it

1064
00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:00.559
<v Speaker 1>based off of who they want to really win, So

1065
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:02.559
<v Speaker 1>you can't really trust what they say. What they try

1066
00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:05.079
<v Speaker 1>to do is stir up controversy that gets stuck in

1067
00:53:05.119 --> 00:53:05.559
<v Speaker 1>your head.

1068
00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, and that's funny you mentioned that because they actually

1069
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:11.000
<v Speaker 2>discussed they hear relative to dan Quayle here in a

1070
00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:14.119
<v Speaker 2>subsequent scene. But one one comment just came to mind

1071
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:17.920
<v Speaker 2>and totally off topic relative to the four election between

1072
00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Bush and Carry. Whatever happened to the don't Taste Me kid?

1073
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:24.199
<v Speaker 2>That don't tast Me bro? Remember Carry was at the

1074
00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:26.639
<v Speaker 2>University of Florida. That student comes up to the mic

1075
00:53:26.679 --> 00:53:29.320
<v Speaker 2>and asks him about skull and Bones, and they literally

1076
00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:31.480
<v Speaker 2>dragged the dude out and like tasing them in shit,

1077
00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:33.199
<v Speaker 2>He's yelling, don't That's where the phrase don't taste Me

1078
00:53:33.239 --> 00:53:34.000
<v Speaker 2>bro comes from.

1079
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:36.119
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, they do.

1080
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:38.239
<v Speaker 2>They did. They disappear that kid to some fucking island.

1081
00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Like why does that kind of have a podcast? So

1082
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:40.960
<v Speaker 2>they call it don't Taste Me Bro.

1083
00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:43.599
<v Speaker 1>I've heard him on a few he was he was

1084
00:53:43.639 --> 00:53:48.360
<v Speaker 1>a guest, but yeah, like he should totally have a thing.

1085
00:53:48.400 --> 00:53:51.199
<v Speaker 1>But you know again, it's like who knows, Maybe he's

1086
00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:55.440
<v Speaker 1>a O and I you never know about this city, right.

1087
00:53:55.480 --> 00:54:00.079
<v Speaker 1>I heard Jesuit the other day talking about the assassination

1088
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:04.880
<v Speaker 1>of JFK and it's like, what, why are the Jesuits

1089
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:06.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about this now? I thought they were supposed to

1090
00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:08.199
<v Speaker 1>be on the inside of it.

1091
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:12.679
<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. Yeah, And according to this comment here where

1092
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:15.559
<v Speaker 2>you got the Gerbils story was around after American Jigglow.

1093
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:18.920
<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. I think I think, I think a lot

1094
00:54:18.920 --> 00:54:21.119
<v Speaker 2>of these characters. I think there's a lot of actors

1095
00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:23.400
<v Speaker 2>that have a lot of these early scientology connections that

1096
00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:26.360
<v Speaker 2>don't get credit for, you know, year year would be

1097
00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:27.880
<v Speaker 2>on that list. I think Stallone would be another one.

1098
00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:30.440
<v Speaker 2>We were talking about, uh that, you know before the show,

1099
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:32.960
<v Speaker 2>some of the Coppola family. But yeah, Copla did the

1100
00:54:33.159 --> 00:54:37.519
<v Speaker 2>Cotton Club his uh you know, his sister being Talia Shayer,

1101
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Rocky's wife. But in the Rocky films, and it's always

1102
00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:42.800
<v Speaker 2>the one one of it's one of the most alarming,

1103
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:49.039
<v Speaker 2>uh situations when I learned that that Sylvester Stalone not

1104
00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:53.440
<v Speaker 2>only directed but choreographed the film Staying Alive, the the

1105
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:58.559
<v Speaker 2>weird uh kind of very uh overtly homosexual disco film

1106
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:01.239
<v Speaker 2>from I believe next to the three Ready Four starring

1107
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:01.960
<v Speaker 2>John Travolta.

1108
00:55:03.159 --> 00:55:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and uh, who else, Barry Gibb what what was

1109
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:12.840
<v Speaker 1>that band called the Beg's. Beg's just rocketed them right

1110
00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:14.920
<v Speaker 1>out into the pop world, you know.

1111
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Well they Yeah, I mean, I don't want to get

1112
00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:19.559
<v Speaker 2>too far off subject, but yeah, that's that that's an

1113
00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:21.960
<v Speaker 2>interesting episode of activity. But yeah, the weirdest thing to me,

1114
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:26.280
<v Speaker 2>a semesteril in doing those doing that. Yeah, speaking of scientology,

1115
00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:28.599
<v Speaker 2>at least somebody I think is in scientology that the

1116
00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:32.039
<v Speaker 2>father from that seventies show Red Foreman. I can't think

1117
00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:34.199
<v Speaker 2>of his I can't think of the actor's name. He was.

1118
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Also he also was a choreographer on the film Staying Alive.

1119
00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:41.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh shit, can you imagine that scene? Right? What a

1120
00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:42.320
<v Speaker 2>weird scene?

1121
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:44.039
<v Speaker 4>Do you remember him from RoboCop?

1122
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:47.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, dude, he was. He was an assassiny. He's

1123
00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:48.679
<v Speaker 2>a pretty tough guy. That's what I'm saying. It's a

1124
00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:52.519
<v Speaker 2>it's a weird, uh, you know, weird juxtaposition. But yeah, yeah,

1125
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:55.280
<v Speaker 2>so uh, I guess I don't know Nick had a

1126
00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:57.199
<v Speaker 2>step out for a second, But we didn't.

1127
00:55:57.280 --> 00:56:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Sylvesters alone start get his start in movies doing gay porn.

1128
00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:03.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know if it was a guy

1129
00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:05.719
<v Speaker 2>on guy, but certainly, I mean, who else is buying

1130
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:07.960
<v Speaker 2>the solo guy porn right in the seventies, it's obviously

1131
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:10.639
<v Speaker 2>gay porn, right right, So it.

1132
00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:12.719
<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't be that big of a stretch to think that

1133
00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:14.840
<v Speaker 1>he's the choreographer if.

1134
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:20.159
<v Speaker 2>He's right, the Italian stallion, Yeah, yeah again. Yes, I

1135
00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:22.239
<v Speaker 2>mean there's a lot of interesting connections in Hollywood with

1136
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:24.360
<v Speaker 2>a lot of these characters. But that's what leads me

1137
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:25.719
<v Speaker 2>to believe that, you know, a lot of folks in

1138
00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Alli would have a lot more visibility on things. Their

1139
00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:31.519
<v Speaker 2>perspective is not of the general public. So you know,

1140
00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:33.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what Bill Maher knows in particular. But

1141
00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:36.440
<v Speaker 2>as we've commented here before, and a lot of folks

1142
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:41.440
<v Speaker 2>been posting here tonight, Bill Maher does did after this film.

1143
00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:43.400
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't this film Welcome back Nick? How you doing,

1144
00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Bud Good? He disappears that we were. I wasn't clear

1145
00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:53.000
<v Speaker 2>if you had an emergency or so that's an emergency.

1146
00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:57.760
<v Speaker 2>That's an emergency. The Bill Maher Productions, uh he after

1147
00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:01.119
<v Speaker 2>this film here Pizza Man, he's arted this and so

1148
00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:06.239
<v Speaker 2>it was nineteen ninety two he started the Kid Love Productions.

1149
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:09.239
<v Speaker 2>This company was found by it's now called Bill Maher.

1150
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:11.440
<v Speaker 2>He's changed it. He changed it in December of two

1151
00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:14.800
<v Speaker 2>thousand and seven. But from nineteen ninety two, so immediately

1152
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:19.880
<v Speaker 2>following this film until two thousand and seven, the company

1153
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:22.480
<v Speaker 2>was founded by comedian Bill Maher in nineteen ninety two,

1154
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:24.960
<v Speaker 2>was Kid Love Productions, but adopted its current name in

1155
00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:28.840
<v Speaker 2>December of two thousand and seven. So it's not only

1156
00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:31.039
<v Speaker 2>that he made this Pizza Man film and then he

1157
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:34.159
<v Speaker 2>was subsequent to this film, he starts this kid Love Productions.

1158
00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:36.960
<v Speaker 2>And I wonder, you know, because I know these nineteen

1159
00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:39.000
<v Speaker 2>ninety one no one was thinking that pizza had anything

1160
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:40.760
<v Speaker 2>to do with Didlin stuff, you know what I mean,

1161
00:57:41.239 --> 00:57:43.440
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a thought anyone's mind. I think it's a

1162
00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:45.760
<v Speaker 2>lot taught on a lot of folks mind today, which

1163
00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:47.559
<v Speaker 2>again is weird to me that there's so many elements

1164
00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:49.880
<v Speaker 2>of this nineteen ninety one film they're still relevant today

1165
00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:54.000
<v Speaker 2>around the topic of diddlin stuff kids.

1166
00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Why are we beating around the bush here?

1167
00:57:56.079 --> 00:57:56.519
<v Speaker 4>All right?

1168
00:57:56.679 --> 00:58:00.599
<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety one? If Bill Maher shoved Jerb up

1169
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:01.440
<v Speaker 1>his ast.

1170
00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, his are Richard Gears? Which one he.

1171
00:58:05.320 --> 00:58:06.039
<v Speaker 5>Was the one putting them up?

1172
00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Gizz right, oh ship, So you're saying that Richard Gear

1173
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:15.159
<v Speaker 2>wanted to call the film pretty Gerbil, but they forced

1174
00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:16.440
<v Speaker 2>him to call pretty well.

1175
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:24.760
<v Speaker 5>God damn shoot, I had to squeak, squeak.

1176
00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So so the next so to get back on

1177
00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:33.599
<v Speaker 2>track here to me, this is there's so many signs

1178
00:58:33.599 --> 00:58:35.199
<v Speaker 2>this is a hit piece. There's so many signs. There's

1179
00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:37.760
<v Speaker 2>so many other underlying elements going on here, right with this,

1180
00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:41.880
<v Speaker 2>the pizza connotations, the connotations surrounding the word pizza and

1181
00:58:41.880 --> 00:58:42.840
<v Speaker 2>an esoteric meeting.

1182
00:58:43.639 --> 00:58:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Didn't they make a South Park episode all about that

1183
00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:48.519
<v Speaker 1>Gerbil traveling through Richard Gears?

1184
00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:56.719
<v Speaker 2>Did they really come on? Did they really they did?

1185
00:58:56.760 --> 00:58:59.400
<v Speaker 2>I can't, I can't, We can't watch that tonight. You

1186
00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:03.119
<v Speaker 2>gotta say, all, do you rail this? That whole story

1187
00:59:03.159 --> 00:59:04.760
<v Speaker 2>cracks me up? All do you reil this entire tale

1188
00:59:05.079 --> 00:59:07.599
<v Speaker 2>to that? But the uh so, No, I just think that,

1189
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:09.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, there's a good argument we made. There's a

1190
00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:11.199
<v Speaker 2>lot going on here with Bill Marion, his activities and

1191
00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:13.079
<v Speaker 2>whatever he's involved with it. I'm not saying that he

1192
00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:15.000
<v Speaker 2>dedals kids, but I mean he seems to imply to

1193
00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:18.239
<v Speaker 2>himself with a production title named kid Love Productions following

1194
00:59:18.239 --> 00:59:22.400
<v Speaker 2>this film. So the next guy, Bill meets his Michael Milkin.

1195
00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:25.760
<v Speaker 2>And again this is that junk bond trader that so

1196
00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Trump pardons this guy a couple of years ago, right

1197
00:59:27.880 --> 00:59:31.280
<v Speaker 2>his first administration. So again he plays, he plays tennis

1198
00:59:31.320 --> 00:59:33.599
<v Speaker 2>with this guy. He pardons this guy later Again, I

1199
00:59:33.639 --> 00:59:35.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know what the relations were in nineteen ninety one.

1200
00:59:35.400 --> 00:59:37.519
<v Speaker 2>It's not clear, but the film implies they had some

1201
00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:41.800
<v Speaker 2>financial relations. I presume they probably did. Why this guy

1202
00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:46.440
<v Speaker 2>goes to jail and his partner Leon Black doesn't and

1203
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:48.679
<v Speaker 2>then you know, does all this Epstein stuff again? I

1204
00:59:48.679 --> 00:59:50.440
<v Speaker 2>think there's a lot more to these narratives. I'm not

1205
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:52.880
<v Speaker 2>trying to say I understand what they are, But what

1206
00:59:53.239 --> 00:59:55.920
<v Speaker 2>are your guys' thoughts as far as these things, Like,

1207
00:59:56.559 --> 01:00:00.960
<v Speaker 2>should in your mind, should a nineteen ninety one have

1208
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:05.760
<v Speaker 2>It's obviously we can call it a comedy comedy's but

1209
01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:08.239
<v Speaker 2>should it be relevant today on these same kind of topics?

1210
01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:10.039
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? Like in my mind, if

1211
01:00:10.360 --> 01:00:12.639
<v Speaker 2>if there's not something more embedded with the occult or

1212
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:15.719
<v Speaker 2>esoteric understanding of these things in the film, with this

1213
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:19.719
<v Speaker 2>biddling conversations in Epstein, then why would there be so

1214
01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:23.000
<v Speaker 2>much appearance of it with the characters in the film

1215
01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:27.440
<v Speaker 2>still revolving around those situations thirty four years later?

1216
01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:28.639
<v Speaker 4>Right?

1217
01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:33.159
<v Speaker 1>Well? I think there could be like this, this connection

1218
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:36.199
<v Speaker 1>between Donald Trump and Michael Milkin could be a lot

1219
01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:40.280
<v Speaker 1>of the hatred. Maybe, like what if they did have

1220
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:42.800
<v Speaker 1>a closer relationship, maybe they were friends.

1221
01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:44.880
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I think they're I mean,

1222
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I actually think there probably was some sort of closer

1223
01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:48.199
<v Speaker 2>relationship there right.

1224
01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, how would you feel knowing that this

1225
01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:54.159
<v Speaker 1>guy's partner got off scott free and then your buddy

1226
01:00:54.199 --> 01:00:56.639
<v Speaker 1>is the one that ended up going to jail like

1227
01:00:56.679 --> 01:01:00.199
<v Speaker 1>that would piss you off at least, especially right out

1228
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:01.800
<v Speaker 1>up seeing and all the rest of that ship that

1229
01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:04.400
<v Speaker 1>he's been into. So you know, there could be a

1230
01:01:04.519 --> 01:01:07.440
<v Speaker 1>real motivating factor here when it comes to Donald Trump

1231
01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:08.039
<v Speaker 1>and government.

1232
01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Sure, and I think the closer connection is likely this

1233
01:01:11.519 --> 01:01:14.960
<v Speaker 2>so that that firm, this is the firm that Millican's

1234
01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:18.480
<v Speaker 2>shut down Druxwell Burnham Lambert and his in his criminal

1235
01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:22.199
<v Speaker 2>activities emmently on Black. But the whole firm was founded

1236
01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:24.480
<v Speaker 2>and seems to me populated by folks who graduated the

1237
01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:27.639
<v Speaker 2>Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania, which

1238
01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:28.599
<v Speaker 2>is Trump's alma mater.

1239
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:29.639
<v Speaker 1>That's Trump.

1240
01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:33.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Millican was obviously younger when there later. I'm just saying, like,

1241
01:01:33.960 --> 01:01:37.320
<v Speaker 2>this is a firm populated by graduates from the Wharton

1242
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:40.880
<v Speaker 2>School Business, so they're obviously operating within at least that

1243
01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:42.840
<v Speaker 2>looser network frame, right.

1244
01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Right, But that that makes sense if they're all sort

1245
01:01:45.960 --> 01:01:48.400
<v Speaker 1>of in it together and these are their sort of things,

1246
01:01:48.719 --> 01:01:51.840
<v Speaker 1>and you know, if they're being targeted by the administration,

1247
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:55.800
<v Speaker 1>all these different Wharton graduates, that would you know, that

1248
01:01:55.800 --> 01:01:56.760
<v Speaker 1>would piss me off.

1249
01:01:56.760 --> 01:02:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Ship Yeah, so yeah, I mean again, I think there's

1250
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:05.559
<v Speaker 2>something to be said for the for the uh this

1251
01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:10.519
<v Speaker 2>gerbile subject that Ranza like it, churbles and a half

1252
01:02:10.519 --> 01:02:12.840
<v Speaker 2>shell gurbil power. I like that one that's going now.

1253
01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:14.559
<v Speaker 2>I think it's thing. There's something to be said that

1254
01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:17.639
<v Speaker 2>some folks go to prison and some folks continue to

1255
01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:19.679
<v Speaker 2>make hundreds of millions of dollars, right, you know what

1256
01:02:19.719 --> 01:02:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean? And then and then you have another guy

1257
01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:23.719
<v Speaker 2>like Milican who did go to prison, seemingly paid some

1258
01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:27.760
<v Speaker 2>restitution somehow sold six million dollars today and again just

1259
01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:29.960
<v Speaker 2>a few years ago got Trump to pardon them, you

1260
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:31.920
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. So again, I just think I

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01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:34.440
<v Speaker 2>re established as there is an on still an ongoing

1262
01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:37.800
<v Speaker 2>relationship with those two, right even even until you know

1263
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:45.320
<v Speaker 2>recent years. Yeah, there you go, yeah, and and uh,

1264
01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:48.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, whatever whatever is going on, I think what

1265
01:02:48.280 --> 01:02:49.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying is I have no idea was going on there.

1266
01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:52.360
<v Speaker 2>I just think it's hilarious that this is, like, you know,

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01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:54.800
<v Speaker 2>these elements in the nineteen ninety one comedy are still

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01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:58.559
<v Speaker 2>relevant here today para politically speaking. And again, I mean, what,

1269
01:02:58.559 --> 01:03:02.119
<v Speaker 2>what's what's a hotter topic now than the Epstein Epstein

1270
01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:03.880
<v Speaker 2>client list. I mean, I have a lot of thoughts

1271
01:03:03.880 --> 01:03:06.280
<v Speaker 2>on the client list, but I'm just saying, like it

1272
01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:09.519
<v Speaker 2>is like the probably the number one topic amongst folks,

1273
01:03:09.599 --> 01:03:14.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, on the interwebsite right now, from from mainstream

1274
01:03:14.239 --> 01:03:16.760
<v Speaker 2>media reports even about it to just people talking about it.

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01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that hasn't stopped, that hasn't gone away. I

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01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:22.960
<v Speaker 1>mean we're talking, what has it been six years now?

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01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:27.559
<v Speaker 2>Since how many almost five and a half August of

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01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:28.239
<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen.

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01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:30.079
<v Speaker 4>That's crazy.

1280
01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:33.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, we all know that Anna Paulina Luna,

1281
01:03:33.719 --> 01:03:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the one that's in charge of this commission, has now

1282
01:03:36.039 --> 01:03:39.599
<v Speaker 1>taken the official title of the world's biggest cocktas because

1283
01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:42.320
<v Speaker 1>we're supposed to get these documents as soon as truck

1284
01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:45.960
<v Speaker 1>came in, and now we have to wait until after

1285
01:03:46.079 --> 01:03:48.840
<v Speaker 1>all of these hearings. What's up with that. Aren't you

1286
01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:51.559
<v Speaker 1>just supposed to let those documents go? Aren't we supposed

1287
01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:54.519
<v Speaker 1>to see all this stuff now, it's just crazy.

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01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:56.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean, the people are falling again.

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01:03:57.440 --> 01:03:59.960
<v Speaker 2>It's funny you say that because the cocktis you realize

1290
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:06.039
<v Speaker 2>she's a former stripper, right yeah, yeah, okay. Trump got

1291
01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:09.079
<v Speaker 2>bail out twice the nineties by Wilbur Ross Ross Shaw banker. Yeah,

1292
01:04:09.079 --> 01:04:11.760
<v Speaker 2>that's that's that's a good comment. Yeah, he did that

1293
01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:14.880
<v Speaker 2>money was Wilbert Ross got that financing from Deutsche Bank,

1294
01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:17.400
<v Speaker 2>which is where Trumps still banks State because the Federal

1295
01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Reserve refuses to do business with him. And I sincerely

1296
01:04:20.719 --> 01:04:22.840
<v Speaker 2>think Trump hates the Federal Reserve and when he makes

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01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:24.840
<v Speaker 2>comments that he wants to shut him down, I don't.

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01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that he's un serious about it. I

1299
01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:31.159
<v Speaker 2>think he's very serious about it. But as far as

1300
01:04:31.199 --> 01:04:32.920
<v Speaker 2>a client list, I mean, yeah, it's it's just a

1301
01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:35.360
<v Speaker 2>it is all a very it's a big it's a circus.

1302
01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:37.880
<v Speaker 2>What that circus is about, I'm not sure. But as

1303
01:04:37.880 --> 01:04:39.519
<v Speaker 2>far as client lists go, they have we already have

1304
01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:43.119
<v Speaker 2>black books. We already know that there's numerous pilot aircraft

1305
01:04:43.159 --> 01:04:46.320
<v Speaker 2>logs that have never been released. Right, you know, we've

1306
01:04:46.400 --> 01:04:48.599
<v Speaker 2>only won one pilot's log has been released, So there's

1307
01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:50.719
<v Speaker 2>numerous other pilots, you know. So there's a lot of

1308
01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:53.320
<v Speaker 2>these things that could be considered lists. So it's a

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01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:56.159
<v Speaker 2>very ambiguous term. I just think it's interesting that there's

1310
01:04:56.199 --> 01:04:59.920
<v Speaker 2>so many people, you know, not again in the Trump orbit,

1311
01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:01.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, there is so many people in the Trump

1312
01:05:01.400 --> 01:05:05.880
<v Speaker 2>or but related to the Epstein saga, but also all

1313
01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:07.719
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden in the nineteen ninety one comedy film

1314
01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:11.840
<v Speaker 2>with Bill Maher being some taking some level of contention, right,

1315
01:05:11.960 --> 01:05:15.440
<v Speaker 2>some point of contention against these subjects. I'm not you know,

1316
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:21.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that that Donald Trump is some sort

1317
01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:24.079
<v Speaker 2>of altruistic savior person. What I am saying is Bill

1318
01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:26.599
<v Speaker 2>mart don't seem to like him, right, and whatever that's

1319
01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:30.079
<v Speaker 2>whatever that subject is, it seems to revolve around pizza

1320
01:05:31.559 --> 01:05:34.159
<v Speaker 2>and possibly Epstein related activities.

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01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Fifteen twenty three could have been the going rate for

1322
01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:41.119
<v Speaker 1>a child sex laf back then, and we're just looking

1323
01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:45.480
<v Speaker 1>at the inflation effects on the childe.

1324
01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:50.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's yeah, yeah, buying powers really really hitting

1325
01:05:50.719 --> 01:05:51.400
<v Speaker 2>the dumps, isn't it.

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01:05:51.719 --> 01:05:51.840
<v Speaker 6>Well.

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01:05:51.880 --> 01:05:53.639
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking, actually fifteen twenty three could be an

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01:05:53.639 --> 01:05:55.159
<v Speaker 2>address or something, you know what I mean, it had

1329
01:05:55.199 --> 01:05:57.559
<v Speaker 2>like fifteen twenty three could have been a meeting internally

1330
01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:00.239
<v Speaker 2>to whatever this beef is going around this movie. These

1331
01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:02.960
<v Speaker 2>characters like they would know at fifteen twenty three, men

1332
01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:06.880
<v Speaker 2>like those sons of bitches fifteen twenty three, you know,

1333
01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:09.480
<v Speaker 2>like Seinfeld and Newman. You know he's like Newman. You know,

1334
01:06:09.559 --> 01:06:11.400
<v Speaker 2>they're like, oh, you know, because they keep dropping it

1335
01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:13.960
<v Speaker 2>so many times that you know, it's obviously got some

1336
01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:17.000
<v Speaker 2>meaning to some people, right right, because the joke.

1337
01:06:17.079 --> 01:06:23.840
<v Speaker 5>No, I didn't wonder about it if.

1338
01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:23.960
<v Speaker 1>There was if there was some subtexts there that I

1339
01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:28.119
<v Speaker 1>could grab onto. But it's all just like surface level socialism,

1340
01:06:28.159 --> 01:06:28.440
<v Speaker 1>you know.

1341
01:06:28.760 --> 01:06:30.559
<v Speaker 4>I mean like, did you really get there?

1342
01:06:30.639 --> 01:06:31.159
<v Speaker 2>Really is?

1343
01:06:31.639 --> 01:06:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Did you did you really get any of the

1344
01:06:34.400 --> 01:06:37.000
<v Speaker 1>dirt or any of the uh you know, detail from

1345
01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:39.920
<v Speaker 1>any of his interactions with all these political characters or

1346
01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:42.880
<v Speaker 1>was it just you know the most basic. I mean

1347
01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:46.239
<v Speaker 1>on his show, he goes pretty basic. You know, he's

1348
01:06:46.239 --> 01:06:49.400
<v Speaker 1>not looking into anything at all, Like all of his

1349
01:06:49.559 --> 01:06:54.119
<v Speaker 1>humor on Bill Maher's show just seems like surface level socialism.

1350
01:06:54.159 --> 01:06:56.559
<v Speaker 1>There's there's really no like substance to it.

1351
01:06:56.599 --> 01:06:59.440
<v Speaker 2>You know. Oh, he's a comi. He's definitely a comi. Yeah,

1352
01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:02.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, there's obviously political beefs in yourybody. I

1353
01:07:02.199 --> 01:07:06.599
<v Speaker 2>think there's also beefs that transcend politics and other subjects,

1354
01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:09.000
<v Speaker 2>including the personal beef you had with with Bob Woodward.

1355
01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't think that Bob Woodward beef is

1356
01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:13.119
<v Speaker 2>probably I mean, who knows. It could be surrounding some

1357
01:07:13.159 --> 01:07:15.119
<v Speaker 2>sort of building stuff. Who knows. But what I'm saying

1358
01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:16.840
<v Speaker 2>is from the words he was saying in the film

1359
01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:19.599
<v Speaker 2>in that scene, like whatever that beef is with Woodward

1360
01:07:19.639 --> 01:07:21.519
<v Speaker 2>in this film, whether a game, whether it's mar or

1361
01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:24.960
<v Speaker 2>the writer, you know, it seemed personal, like that was

1362
01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:26.679
<v Speaker 2>like like he said it was his hero and like

1363
01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:28.960
<v Speaker 2>he thought he sold out and all this other stuff, right, like,

1364
01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:32.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, that seems seemed very seemed to cut him deep,

1365
01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:34.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, Bill Bill, Bill wept that night.

1366
01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:39.639
<v Speaker 7>One loan janitor, one ordinary joe leaning up a mass

1367
01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:42.960
<v Speaker 7>that has left the nation's financial markets and turmoil.

1368
01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:45.559
<v Speaker 2>Or was it an ordinary Joe?

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01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:51.639
<v Speaker 4>Mike Mike Milk.

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01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:55.079
<v Speaker 2>And so I think it's interesting makes him a janitor, right,

1371
01:07:55.239 --> 01:07:57.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's cleaned up. You know the financial markets

1372
01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:00.199
<v Speaker 2>makes that reference, right, like they go on the uh

1373
01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:02.559
<v Speaker 2>describe a little more of the junk bond stuff. But

1374
01:08:02.599 --> 01:08:05.719
<v Speaker 2>again you know, Mike Milkan was not a very political character.

1375
01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he still is a political I don't

1376
01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:10.119
<v Speaker 2>know them mean he's ever been a political character. Right,

1377
01:08:10.199 --> 01:08:13.039
<v Speaker 2>So now we're we're transcending politics and personal beefs. So

1378
01:08:13.079 --> 01:08:16.079
<v Speaker 2>what is mars beef with Mike Milkin is it's simply

1379
01:08:16.119 --> 01:08:19.319
<v Speaker 2>the the scandals around the junk bonds, if that's it,

1380
01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:22.359
<v Speaker 2>the bigger scandal surrounded folks like the Bush family and

1381
01:08:22.439 --> 01:08:25.399
<v Speaker 2>the Savings Lone crisis with Neil Bush and the Franklin scandal,

1382
01:08:25.439 --> 01:08:27.720
<v Speaker 2>these type of things, right, he seems and it seems

1383
01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:30.199
<v Speaker 2>like if anything was gonna be fussed about by mar

1384
01:08:30.399 --> 01:08:31.439
<v Speaker 2>be something like that.

1385
01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:36.199
<v Speaker 1>If he actually looked into anything more than the headlines problem.

1386
01:08:36.920 --> 01:08:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Michael Milkey got the headlines and that's all people looked at.

1387
01:08:40.039 --> 01:08:42.279
<v Speaker 2>You know, you're you're probably right. He was probably the

1388
01:08:42.279 --> 01:08:44.640
<v Speaker 2>butt of a lot of late night jokes at the time, right, right,

1389
01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:49.600
<v Speaker 2>had had I had either one of you familiar with

1390
01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:52.199
<v Speaker 2>when you all saw this and watched and saw Michael Milkin, Really,

1391
01:08:52.199 --> 01:08:53.199
<v Speaker 2>did y'all know who he was?

1392
01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1393
01:08:54.880 --> 01:08:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I did not at all, not at all. Now, That's

1394
01:08:59.640 --> 01:09:01.000
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. Like, so, so some of these things

1395
01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:03.560
<v Speaker 2>are very like the Geraldine Ferraro. I think anyone most

1396
01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:06.119
<v Speaker 2>folks would watch that today like a who you know

1397
01:09:06.159 --> 01:09:08.600
<v Speaker 2>what I mean? But the you know, some of these

1398
01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:11.159
<v Speaker 2>things that seem seemingly obscure. But again, you know, I

1399
01:09:11.159 --> 01:09:14.079
<v Speaker 2>don't think it's by any sheer happenstance that Michael Milkins

1400
01:09:14.119 --> 01:09:16.960
<v Speaker 2>included a near for for you know, could be a

1401
01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:19.479
<v Speaker 2>number of reasons, but yeah, I mean he uh, he

1402
01:09:19.560 --> 01:09:21.640
<v Speaker 2>certainly got some headlines and and would have could have

1403
01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:24.479
<v Speaker 2>been on Mars. Uh. You know, an anti capitalist like

1404
01:09:24.520 --> 01:09:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Mars certainly would have not would have taken umbrage with

1405
01:09:27.039 --> 01:09:28.079
<v Speaker 2>old Michael Milkin there.

1406
01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it seems like I don't know, do you want

1407
01:09:33.640 --> 01:09:39.279
<v Speaker 1>to play some of his criticism of Milking? Yeah?

1408
01:09:39.680 --> 01:09:40.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh hi, I.

1409
01:09:41.720 --> 01:09:42.960
<v Speaker 4>Just cleaning up around here.

1410
01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Jeesus, what a mess.

1411
01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Huh you're a billionaire. What what are you doing? Damn

1412
01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:54.720
<v Speaker 2>SCC they got me at day and night.

1413
01:09:56.359 --> 01:10:01.880
<v Speaker 4>I have to watch the cars too. Oh, those racketeering

1414
01:10:02.039 --> 01:10:03.560
<v Speaker 4>laws have some teeth.

1415
01:10:04.039 --> 01:10:07.520
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, my lawyer got me out of having a molder lawns,

1416
01:10:07.640 --> 01:10:09.439
<v Speaker 9>so I can't complain.

1417
01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:11.720
<v Speaker 4>What are you doing here?

1418
01:10:13.159 --> 01:10:13.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

1419
01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:16.960
<v Speaker 7>I was hoping you get answer some questions for me.

1420
01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could go for a donut.

1421
01:10:22.479 --> 01:10:25.119
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to interrupt your routine, you know.

1422
01:10:25.239 --> 01:10:26.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he makes him sound like the biggest dupe

1423
01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:30.760
<v Speaker 2>is right. Oh, I could go for a donut, right right.

1424
01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember Michael Milkin's personality. I just remember hearing

1425
01:10:37.800 --> 01:10:38.239
<v Speaker 1>about him.

1426
01:10:38.239 --> 01:10:42.640
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I don't. I don't know that he's that

1427
01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:44.039
<v Speaker 2>big of a dunce, you know what I mean. I mean,

1428
01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:48.159
<v Speaker 2>the guy clearly was a criminal, perhaps obviously, but yeah, clearly. Uh.

1429
01:10:48.560 --> 01:10:51.880
<v Speaker 2>I seemingly a Wharton grad with some some some financial

1430
01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:56.279
<v Speaker 2>skill sets here might you know, be it mathematics or whatever, negotiations,

1431
01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:59.199
<v Speaker 2>who knows, but certainly some businessman skill sets, it seemed.

1432
01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:04.800
<v Speaker 7>And I'm like, I appreciate the dunk and everything, but

1433
01:11:06.119 --> 01:11:10.479
<v Speaker 7>people like taking this economy right down the crapper. Yeah,

1434
01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:13.279
<v Speaker 7>feel pretty bad about that, don't you.

1435
01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:18.479
<v Speaker 2>No, I've got plenty sucked the way. Yeah, well, anyway,

1436
01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:19.600
<v Speaker 2>get back to the cage.

1437
01:11:19.960 --> 01:11:23.800
<v Speaker 9>Oh well, I don't care what that dame told you.

1438
01:11:24.199 --> 01:11:27.960
<v Speaker 9>The mayor's metro Rail account is just fine. The junk

1439
01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:31.600
<v Speaker 9>bonds were bought out before the crash, bught by home.

1440
01:11:34.239 --> 01:11:37.159
<v Speaker 9>I don't think I should say, come on, Mike can

1441
01:11:37.319 --> 01:11:42.359
<v Speaker 9>help me. It's not really a who question.

1442
01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:51.720
<v Speaker 7>It's a what a oh, let me give you a hint.

1443
01:11:52.800 --> 01:11:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Wrong for your that is that is an interesting thing

1444
01:11:57.800 --> 01:12:00.600
<v Speaker 2>because it's not the Japanese about all these these municipal

1445
01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:03.880
<v Speaker 2>and state bonds in America today. It's the Chinese, right.

1446
01:12:05.199 --> 01:12:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Right, And that was a big change in the nineteen

1447
01:12:07.680 --> 01:12:10.359
<v Speaker 1>eighties to the nineteen nineties. They called the nineteen nineties

1448
01:12:10.399 --> 01:12:14.079
<v Speaker 1>the Lost decade in Japan because they had a huge

1449
01:12:14.119 --> 01:12:18.880
<v Speaker 1>financial crash, right, So there yen went through the U.

1450
01:12:20.199 --> 01:12:23.680
<v Speaker 1>They used yen, right, but their yen, you know, it

1451
01:12:23.800 --> 01:12:26.159
<v Speaker 1>deflated so much and they just took it on the chin.

1452
01:12:26.319 --> 01:12:29.079
<v Speaker 1>And basically their economy hasn't really been the same since.

1453
01:12:29.079 --> 01:12:32.520
<v Speaker 1>But it used to be in the eighties that the

1454
01:12:32.720 --> 01:12:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Japanese manufacturing processes were superior to all the Union you know,

1455
01:12:37.520 --> 01:12:42.119
<v Speaker 1>bailed out car manufacturers in the United States. So every

1456
01:12:42.119 --> 01:12:44.800
<v Speaker 1>car was Japanese, all the electronics were Japanese.

1457
01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:46.000
<v Speaker 4>Everything came from Japan.

1458
01:12:48.520 --> 01:12:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Sure, another other topic still relevant today with tariffs. So yeah,

1459
01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:00.800
<v Speaker 2>not to go down to a socioeconomic political conversation on

1460
01:13:00.840 --> 01:13:04.079
<v Speaker 2>that matter is here, but you go then then Marget's uh,

1461
01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:06.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, has an interaction with the former Prime Minister

1462
01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:11.279
<v Speaker 2>of Japan over these matters, as you, yeah, which is

1463
01:13:11.319 --> 01:13:14.359
<v Speaker 2>somewhat obscure. Then the Dame is always making her recurring

1464
01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:17.399
<v Speaker 2>role here in the recurring appearance throughout the film. Then

1465
01:13:17.439 --> 01:13:20.720
<v Speaker 2>you get to dan Quayle, and uh, I don't know.

1466
01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:23.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, at the time, you know, dan Quill's a VP,

1467
01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:24.960
<v Speaker 2>he's famous, and then for all sorts of dumb ship

1468
01:13:25.039 --> 01:13:27.960
<v Speaker 2>being a being a moron, which I think, Uh, he's

1469
01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:30.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of went off into obscurity himself ever since this

1470
01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:33.880
<v Speaker 2>this era here see much of dan Quayle these days.

1471
01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:37.239
<v Speaker 2>The one thing I do, the one thing I don't

1472
01:13:37.239 --> 01:13:39.159
<v Speaker 2>even know that much about the guy, and one thing

1473
01:13:39.199 --> 01:13:41.479
<v Speaker 2>I do knows he's from the state of Indiana, and

1474
01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:44.079
<v Speaker 2>after seeing things that went down with the Delphi murder case,

1475
01:13:44.439 --> 01:13:47.319
<v Speaker 2>the entire state of Indiana's upper echelon of politics is

1476
01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:51.640
<v Speaker 2>way worse off than that anyone can imagine Folks like

1477
01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:54.159
<v Speaker 2>dan Quayle. He's a product of that. So was what

1478
01:13:54.239 --> 01:13:58.119
<v Speaker 2>was Trump's first VP, Pence. He's a product of that system.

1479
01:13:58.760 --> 01:14:02.039
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. I had something interesting about the Delfi case. This

1480
01:14:02.159 --> 01:14:07.000
<v Speaker 1>guy who said he was reading headlines related to this, uh,

1481
01:14:07.199 --> 01:14:11.000
<v Speaker 1>strange mental process of hearing voices and stuff said that

1482
01:14:11.199 --> 01:14:14.359
<v Speaker 1>they they said that Richard Allen was hearing voices.

1483
01:14:15.439 --> 01:14:18.800
<v Speaker 2>I had read that. I've never heard that once. Now, right,

1484
01:14:19.199 --> 01:14:19.600
<v Speaker 2>I think.

1485
01:14:19.439 --> 01:14:22.159
<v Speaker 1>They're trying to They're trying to pentamental illness on him

1486
01:14:22.159 --> 01:14:23.880
<v Speaker 1>so that it makes it seem more plausible that he

1487
01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:24.640
<v Speaker 1>killed those people.

1488
01:14:24.640 --> 01:14:25.680
<v Speaker 4>But I don't think he did.

1489
01:14:26.399 --> 01:14:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did that. Dude's got a Yeah, he's in

1490
01:14:29.079 --> 01:14:31.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot of ship. I mean he's uh. I mean

1491
01:14:33.159 --> 01:14:35.199
<v Speaker 2>that that whole situation is pretty messed up. But yeah,

1492
01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:39.600
<v Speaker 2>I just the it's on fascinating of the level of uh,

1493
01:14:40.279 --> 01:14:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Tom Floury has gone there because you know, it's at

1494
01:14:43.319 --> 01:14:46.159
<v Speaker 2>a certain my froze duffrees for.

1495
01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:48.720
<v Speaker 4>A second, back, come my back.

1496
01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Just but you know, I think I can I

1497
01:14:53.119 --> 01:14:55.520
<v Speaker 2>think I can pull some correlations between the Indiana situation.

1498
01:14:55.560 --> 01:14:57.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to say in this, in this Pizza Man film,

1499
01:14:57.840 --> 01:14:59.840
<v Speaker 2>clearly there's a lot of weird kid stuff being in

1500
01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:02.359
<v Speaker 2>going on around the upper echelon of politics in the

1501
01:15:02.359 --> 01:15:05.880
<v Speaker 2>state of Indiana, and it could just be complicity in

1502
01:15:05.880 --> 01:15:08.479
<v Speaker 2>the matter of not of not of covering it up right,

1503
01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:11.560
<v Speaker 2>because whatever went down with them two girls in their murder,

1504
01:15:11.560 --> 01:15:15.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it involved some weird shit some uh, perhaps

1505
01:15:15.399 --> 01:15:18.479
<v Speaker 2>some Freemason members with some of those characters, some weird

1506
01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:23.239
<v Speaker 2>uh you know, ritualistic odonism stuff. But that stuff goes

1507
01:15:23.319 --> 01:15:25.600
<v Speaker 2>up into the upper echelons of the state politics. And

1508
01:15:26.159 --> 01:15:28.760
<v Speaker 2>if they're again they're not memberships, then they're you know,

1509
01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:31.039
<v Speaker 2>at least covering up for some reason. What that reason

1510
01:15:31.079 --> 01:15:33.319
<v Speaker 2>would be if they're not members I'm not sure, but

1511
01:15:33.920 --> 01:15:36.079
<v Speaker 2>the level I was actually really shocked with some of

1512
01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:39.159
<v Speaker 2>the level of you know, politics are involved and all that.

1513
01:15:39.199 --> 01:15:41.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, not much more different than the you know,

1514
01:15:41.960 --> 01:15:45.159
<v Speaker 2>the idea of for situation of the politics, but different politics.

1515
01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:47.079
<v Speaker 2>But you know that the politics in Indiana dated, they're

1516
01:15:47.119 --> 01:15:48.119
<v Speaker 2>pretty dark. It seems.

1517
01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:52.359
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know if you listened to the Nephelin

1518
01:15:52.880 --> 01:15:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Dutch squad, but they're convinced that the ultimate evil or

1519
01:15:56.720 --> 01:15:58.760
<v Speaker 1>the throne of Satan is under Indiana.

1520
01:15:59.720 --> 01:16:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh. I was not familiar with that theory, but I'll

1521
01:16:02.800 --> 01:16:05.199
<v Speaker 2>entertain it for sure. Yeah. So you know, in the

1522
01:16:05.199 --> 01:16:08.279
<v Speaker 2>stale Indiana, clearly there's a lot known that's not publicly

1523
01:16:08.279 --> 01:16:11.199
<v Speaker 2>known right amongst these political types, and relative to this

1524
01:16:11.279 --> 01:16:15.039
<v Speaker 2>deel Fi case particularly, you know, in the vast network

1525
01:16:15.079 --> 01:16:17.680
<v Speaker 2>of investigations that got they were. They were spot on

1526
01:16:17.880 --> 01:16:20.439
<v Speaker 2>with their investigations in the early part of the stuff,

1527
01:16:20.479 --> 01:16:23.359
<v Speaker 2>and it seemed like the murder of the Tara Hat

1528
01:16:23.359 --> 01:16:25.520
<v Speaker 2>detective who was working for the FBI Task Force is

1529
01:16:25.520 --> 01:16:27.920
<v Speaker 2>what shut it all down. That dude was murdered by

1530
01:16:28.119 --> 01:16:31.560
<v Speaker 2>by a politician co figure, a Democratic politician mistake city

1531
01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:37.359
<v Speaker 2>civin Dana there, mayoral candidate for Tara Hot mayor. Nonetheless,

1532
01:16:37.680 --> 01:16:39.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, in that same note, we see all this

1533
01:16:39.920 --> 01:16:42.439
<v Speaker 2>politics and political stuff in this Pizza Man film, right,

1534
01:16:42.479 --> 01:16:44.520
<v Speaker 2>But like that's what I'm saying, like, at some point

1535
01:16:44.560 --> 01:16:49.159
<v Speaker 2>in time, these weird pizza related activities permeate through politics,

1536
01:16:49.479 --> 01:16:52.760
<v Speaker 2>and seemingly state and federal level. I would argue local

1537
01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:54.720
<v Speaker 2>level as well, because it's all funded by the same

1538
01:16:55.319 --> 01:17:01.279
<v Speaker 2>same parties. But nonetheless, so you know, I'm not saying,

1539
01:17:01.319 --> 01:17:03.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know the mayor of Los Angeles' history,

1540
01:17:03.920 --> 01:17:05.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're at the beginning of the film, but

1541
01:17:05.640 --> 01:17:08.439
<v Speaker 2>like you know, Ronald Reagan's got some dark shit around him.

1542
01:17:08.479 --> 01:17:10.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know about Ferraro or you know,

1543
01:17:10.760 --> 01:17:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Quail Quail I Quail like pants. I imagine those dudes

1544
01:17:13.680 --> 01:17:16.840
<v Speaker 2>have some skeletons in their closet. You look at Mike pants, mister, Oh,

1545
01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:19.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't have meetings with women in myf's not present.

1546
01:17:19.439 --> 01:17:22.039
<v Speaker 2>All right, you've killed people, Bud, you got some stuff

1547
01:17:22.039 --> 01:17:23.840
<v Speaker 2>in your closet, Fella, you know what I mean. That's

1548
01:17:23.840 --> 01:17:25.840
<v Speaker 2>the first reaction I have when I hear that statement.

1549
01:17:26.920 --> 01:17:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, I don't know. You know these in

1550
01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:31.119
<v Speaker 2>ninety one, no one, no one was thinking that these

1551
01:17:31.159 --> 01:17:35.119
<v Speaker 2>subjects were close related to politics and whatnot. But you know,

1552
01:17:35.199 --> 01:17:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I think Bill mahin gang behind this film knew that.

1553
01:17:39.439 --> 01:17:42.279
<v Speaker 1>I think there is that dark undertone that it's sort

1554
01:17:42.319 --> 01:17:45.359
<v Speaker 1>of they're trying to presume that everybody knows how seedy

1555
01:17:45.479 --> 01:17:47.840
<v Speaker 1>this game is. But it's like it doesn't really translate

1556
01:17:47.880 --> 01:17:48.279
<v Speaker 1>too well.

1557
01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Sure, And then I got, I got before we get

1558
01:17:53.640 --> 01:17:55.560
<v Speaker 2>into the last party with Donald Trump, I'll play the

1559
01:17:55.600 --> 01:17:58.119
<v Speaker 2>clip here with the introduction of Donald Trump was and

1560
01:17:58.199 --> 01:18:00.399
<v Speaker 2>you mentioned this, I believe before the the you both

1561
01:18:00.439 --> 01:18:04.000
<v Speaker 2>did before we started the show. How the introduction of

1562
01:18:04.039 --> 01:18:06.279
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump of the film Bill Mayer, the pizza man

1563
01:18:06.359 --> 01:18:08.159
<v Speaker 2>has no idea who he is. And I just think

1564
01:18:08.199 --> 01:18:09.840
<v Speaker 2>that's that's just the way to troll the dude and

1565
01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:11.880
<v Speaker 2>talks ship like, oh, who are you again? Nah, that

1566
01:18:11.920 --> 01:18:15.319
<v Speaker 2>doesn't sound from Mayor, you know, because he gets them.

1567
01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:18.119
<v Speaker 2>He gets him, like his whole resume right, And Bill's like, no, no, no,

1568
01:18:18.760 --> 01:18:24.000
<v Speaker 2>never heard of you? That what we're all Before I

1569
01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:25.640
<v Speaker 2>played the clip? What did you guys think on that scene?

1570
01:18:25.720 --> 01:18:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Was that? Was that a similar take that Yell had? Well?

1571
01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:33.399
<v Speaker 5>I thought it was weird that the guy didn't realize

1572
01:18:33.439 --> 01:18:37.159
<v Speaker 5>even though they worked together, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1573
01:18:37.399 --> 01:18:39.439
<v Speaker 5>I mean, the guy at one point in midst of

1574
01:18:39.520 --> 01:18:41.560
<v Speaker 5>him that we worked together, Like, how do you not realize?

1575
01:18:41.600 --> 01:18:44.119
<v Speaker 5>Like she'd see the dude, don't you be like, Oh,

1576
01:18:44.119 --> 01:18:47.279
<v Speaker 5>that's the guy that supposedly disappeared from my pizza shop

1577
01:18:47.319 --> 01:18:49.560
<v Speaker 5>one day I'm writing this.

1578
01:18:51.600 --> 01:18:53.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because he was. He was the original pizza guy

1579
01:18:53.399 --> 01:18:55.520
<v Speaker 2>that disappeared, right supposedly when they.

1580
01:18:55.439 --> 01:18:57.560
<v Speaker 5>Said, yeah, it was the first guy disappeared with the

1581
01:18:57.560 --> 01:18:59.000
<v Speaker 5>sagano of these pizza.

1582
01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they tie that back in. I thought that

1583
01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:03.720
<v Speaker 2>was really weird to because they don't really explain that

1584
01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:07.640
<v Speaker 2>because he's you know, he's like, you know, Donald, who what? Who?

1585
01:19:08.119 --> 01:19:08.199
<v Speaker 6>So?

1586
01:19:08.399 --> 01:19:10.239
<v Speaker 2>What what is you? What were your thoughts? They're headless.

1587
01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:14.119
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't understand what they were going for but I

1588
01:19:14.119 --> 01:19:16.119
<v Speaker 1>think at some level they were they were trying to

1589
01:19:16.159 --> 01:19:18.640
<v Speaker 1>troll them about fame. The whole movie seems to be

1590
01:19:18.680 --> 01:19:21.880
<v Speaker 1>obsessed with fame. It's like how popular people are in

1591
01:19:21.920 --> 01:19:25.520
<v Speaker 1>other people's eyes and stuff. So yeah, you kind of

1592
01:19:25.520 --> 01:19:28.279
<v Speaker 1>got maybe the indication that they were trying to drop

1593
01:19:28.319 --> 01:19:31.079
<v Speaker 1>a joke. Okay, well he doesn't know who Donald Trump is.

1594
01:19:31.079 --> 01:19:31.880
<v Speaker 1>How could you not know?

1595
01:19:32.680 --> 01:19:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Right? But yeah, I mean is Donald Trump was pretty

1596
01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:39.880
<v Speaker 2>big in nineteen ninety one. I mean, yeah, you know,

1597
01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:41.920
<v Speaker 2>he hadn't he hadn't appeared in Homeline too yet, but

1598
01:19:41.920 --> 01:19:43.880
<v Speaker 2>I think he was just about to. But you know,

1599
01:19:43.880 --> 01:19:49.000
<v Speaker 2>he's still he was a major major figure in business,

1600
01:19:49.039 --> 01:19:52.640
<v Speaker 2>not politics. But you know he owned uh not that

1601
01:19:52.800 --> 01:19:55.199
<v Speaker 2>not an NFL team, there was that other other football

1602
01:19:55.279 --> 01:19:57.199
<v Speaker 2>league in the eighties that he owned a football team with.

1603
01:19:57.880 --> 01:20:00.439
<v Speaker 2>You know, He's just he was a major figure in society,

1604
01:20:00.479 --> 01:20:03.119
<v Speaker 2>I guess, right. I think I think you can miss

1605
01:20:03.119 --> 01:20:05.079
<v Speaker 2>America at the time, right, So, I mean you do

1606
01:20:05.159 --> 01:20:06.079
<v Speaker 2>a lot of different things.

1607
01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Lifestyles are just and famous. You know, that was like ubiquitous,

1608
01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:14.039
<v Speaker 1>and you also like this has taken from the perspective

1609
01:20:14.119 --> 01:20:17.760
<v Speaker 1>where everybody has five channels and you can assume that

1610
01:20:17.840 --> 01:20:19.359
<v Speaker 1>they know all the same stuff.

1611
01:20:20.199 --> 01:20:23.279
<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure this is before the early onslaught of even

1612
01:20:23.399 --> 01:20:39.239
<v Speaker 2>USA television, right, yes, so for the edification of the

1613
01:20:39.239 --> 01:20:41.520
<v Speaker 2>folks in the interwebs. Not that this storyline makes any sense.

1614
01:20:41.560 --> 01:20:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Bill Maher just beat up the quails and Donald Trump

1615
01:20:44.960 --> 01:20:46.800
<v Speaker 2>pops in and he's like, hey, I'm really I'm really

1616
01:20:46.800 --> 01:20:50.399
<v Speaker 2>the one behind this. Again, not really relevant, but that

1617
01:20:50.439 --> 01:20:56.159
<v Speaker 2>is what's going on here. I don't get it. This

1618
01:20:56.359 --> 01:20:57.000
<v Speaker 2>is worriech.

1619
01:20:57.079 --> 01:21:00.119
<v Speaker 4>When you didn't show up after that last delivery, you've

1620
01:21:00.119 --> 01:21:01.119
<v Speaker 4>been all these years?

1621
01:21:01.640 --> 01:21:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Where do you think I've been?

1622
01:21:03.640 --> 01:21:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm Donald Trump. I know you're a pizza man, A

1623
01:21:09.600 --> 01:21:10.680
<v Speaker 1>pretty good one.

1624
01:21:10.520 --> 01:21:12.359
<v Speaker 2>That was back in the nearly seventies.

1625
01:21:14.399 --> 01:21:17.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm a billionaire now, Donald Trump.

1626
01:21:18.119 --> 01:21:20.119
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. I when I just want to

1627
01:21:20.159 --> 01:21:22.079
<v Speaker 2>pause out here, when I first saw that now when

1628
01:21:22.079 --> 01:21:24.199
<v Speaker 2>he calls him a pizza man, it's like, why are

1629
01:21:24.199 --> 01:21:28.359
<v Speaker 2>they both calling each other pizza man? You know what

1630
01:21:28.359 --> 01:21:28.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean?

1631
01:21:29.079 --> 01:21:35.800
<v Speaker 1>And he's a former pizza man the nineteen seventies.

1632
01:21:35.479 --> 01:21:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Right right right back when he was hanging out Studio

1633
01:21:37.720 --> 01:21:40.399
<v Speaker 2>fifty four with raycon Or as I like to joke around.

1634
01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Maybe raycon Donald Trump and David Burkowitz from Men Walking

1635
01:21:44.359 --> 01:21:47.199
<v Speaker 2>with Michael Jackson at Studio fifty four, just you know,

1636
01:21:47.359 --> 01:21:49.359
<v Speaker 2>just a fantasy that I like to portray in my

1637
01:21:49.439 --> 01:21:51.279
<v Speaker 2>head from time to time. They were all definitely there

1638
01:21:51.279 --> 01:21:53.680
<v Speaker 2>at the same time, apparently, you know, but whether or

1639
01:21:53.680 --> 01:21:55.920
<v Speaker 2>not they're men walking is a different, different tale together.

1640
01:21:56.319 --> 01:21:58.840
<v Speaker 1>But where they're Gerbils, well.

1641
01:21:58.680 --> 01:22:01.119
<v Speaker 2>The gear was there, you know, there was present.

1642
01:22:01.680 --> 01:22:08.359
<v Speaker 6>The Trump Palace, the Trump Plaza, the Trump Shadow, the

1643
01:22:08.399 --> 01:22:12.960
<v Speaker 6>Trump Game, the Trump Book, Trump Trump Trump.

1644
01:22:16.359 --> 01:22:16.680
<v Speaker 5>Trump.

1645
01:22:16.920 --> 01:22:20.239
<v Speaker 4>Huh um, no, it didn't ring a bell.

1646
01:22:20.479 --> 01:22:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Why'd Julie, which you know I can. We don't have

1647
01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:27.319
<v Speaker 2>to play anymore of that. Trump ends up telling him

1648
01:22:27.359 --> 01:22:29.600
<v Speaker 2>you hired everybody to torment Bill Maher over this fifteen

1649
01:22:29.640 --> 01:22:31.880
<v Speaker 2>dollars and twenty three cents and some sort of weird

1650
01:22:31.920 --> 01:22:35.039
<v Speaker 2>revenge thing, which again is the most you know, blackluster

1651
01:22:35.159 --> 01:22:40.640
<v Speaker 2>ending to this film spoiler alert. But you know, the uh,

1652
01:22:40.760 --> 01:22:43.079
<v Speaker 2>the idea, like the idea that I can watch Bill

1653
01:22:43.119 --> 01:22:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Mahr say he has never heard of Trump, when Bill

1654
01:22:44.760 --> 01:22:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Maher has spent tens of thousands of hours over the

1655
01:22:47.680 --> 01:22:51.239
<v Speaker 2>last eight years just saying the word Trump. You know

1656
01:22:51.239 --> 01:22:54.479
<v Speaker 2>what I mean? In various derogatory fashions, it's just funny

1657
01:22:54.520 --> 01:22:56.600
<v Speaker 2>to watch them say I've never heard Trump. Nope, never

1658
01:22:56.640 --> 01:22:59.159
<v Speaker 2>heard of them.

1659
01:22:59.199 --> 01:23:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think I'm going to go to the HBO

1660
01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:06.119
<v Speaker 1>studios and actually get up in the middle of one

1661
01:23:06.159 --> 01:23:12.840
<v Speaker 1>of the tapings and say, pizza Man sucked, right, Yeah,

1662
01:23:13.079 --> 01:23:15.079
<v Speaker 1>don't taste me, bro, don't taste.

1663
01:23:15.640 --> 01:23:17.399
<v Speaker 2>He may not even remember he made this film. He's

1664
01:23:17.399 --> 01:23:19.199
<v Speaker 2>probably trying to hide that, you know, trying to hide that.

1665
01:23:19.239 --> 01:23:20.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Again, I don't know. I think he's

1666
01:23:20.279 --> 01:23:21.399
<v Speaker 2>a dark I mean, I think he's kind of a

1667
01:23:21.479 --> 01:23:23.960
<v Speaker 2>darker dude. You know, you may you know. I to me,

1668
01:23:24.159 --> 01:23:26.119
<v Speaker 2>it's it's not a joke to name your production company

1669
01:23:26.239 --> 01:23:30.119
<v Speaker 2>kid Love Productions, especially when you're making these weird coded

1670
01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:32.199
<v Speaker 2>films about pizza. You know, at the same time, like

1671
01:23:32.359 --> 01:23:37.359
<v Speaker 2>that is weird. It's off putting to me, it's bizarre.

1672
01:23:37.880 --> 01:23:40.920
<v Speaker 2>And again, you know, I'll let you guys, I'll let

1673
01:23:40.920 --> 01:23:42.439
<v Speaker 2>you guys give you some of your final reviews here.

1674
01:23:42.439 --> 01:23:45.000
<v Speaker 2>But for me, it's it's the it's the oddity of

1675
01:23:45.119 --> 01:23:47.640
<v Speaker 2>this stuff from nineteen ninety one is still relevant today

1676
01:23:47.640 --> 01:23:51.199
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty five and a parapolitical you know context here,

1677
01:23:51.239 --> 01:23:53.760
<v Speaker 2>and the same characters and the same kind of you know,

1678
01:23:53.800 --> 01:23:55.800
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily the same Script's what I'm saying, like the

1679
01:23:55.840 --> 01:23:59.239
<v Speaker 2>same the same script of its revolving around this udiddling

1680
01:23:59.319 --> 01:24:03.439
<v Speaker 2>activities right or in around those and around those activities.

1681
01:24:04.199 --> 01:24:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think he nailed it with the Wharton School

1682
01:24:07.079 --> 01:24:09.880
<v Speaker 1>because there seems to be a lot of connections between

1683
01:24:09.920 --> 01:24:12.439
<v Speaker 1>the early nineties, the Wharton School and what's going on

1684
01:24:12.520 --> 01:24:16.199
<v Speaker 1>today with the you know, Trump administration. So that could be,

1685
01:24:16.319 --> 01:24:18.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, one of these groups to watch in terms

1686
01:24:18.640 --> 01:24:22.439
<v Speaker 1>of connections to whatever Trump's got up his sleeves.

1687
01:24:22.479 --> 01:24:24.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, well, not only Trump, but that's a good point,

1688
01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:27.640
<v Speaker 2>only Trump, because while Trump was in office and Biden

1689
01:24:27.720 --> 01:24:29.960
<v Speaker 2>was at office there from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty,

1690
01:24:30.319 --> 01:24:33.279
<v Speaker 2>the CCP funded an economic school over there at U

1691
01:24:33.279 --> 01:24:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Penn and named it the Biden School of Economics. Here

1692
01:24:35.560 --> 01:24:38.079
<v Speaker 2>at the Wharton School business so and Anthony his buddy

1693
01:24:38.239 --> 01:24:41.960
<v Speaker 2>garage banded enthusiast and part time Secretary of State Anthony

1694
01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:45.119
<v Speaker 2>Blincoln was the head of that business on's it open.

1695
01:24:45.199 --> 01:24:47.119
<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of weird stuff going on there Wharton,

1696
01:24:47.119 --> 01:24:48.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, from both sides, I.

1697
01:24:48.079 --> 01:24:52.039
<v Speaker 1>Think, yeah, I mean, if you're talking about a shot

1698
01:24:52.079 --> 01:24:55.439
<v Speaker 1>across the bow what better way than to buy building

1699
01:24:55.520 --> 01:24:58.039
<v Speaker 1>at the school that all these people who are posing

1700
01:24:58.079 --> 01:24:59.039
<v Speaker 1>you come from.

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01:24:59.479 --> 01:25:00.880
<v Speaker 2>That's the way looked at it. That's the way I

1702
01:25:00.880 --> 01:25:07.520
<v Speaker 2>looked at it, right, Yeah, Yeah, moreos Moreol's thoughts here

1703
01:25:07.520 --> 01:25:10.279
<v Speaker 2>on the on the on the movie, Like did you

1704
01:25:10.319 --> 01:25:12.399
<v Speaker 2>all have a favorite scene? Like, was there a favorite

1705
01:25:12.439 --> 01:25:15.319
<v Speaker 2>aspect of this film? I mean it was just collectively shitty.

1706
01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:18.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Nick, what was your favorite part of what.

1707
01:25:18.760 --> 01:25:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Was your favorite scene?

1708
01:25:20.880 --> 01:25:24.479
<v Speaker 5>That's the thing about this ship. I mean there was

1709
01:25:24.520 --> 01:25:25.880
<v Speaker 5>a few pats that I was like, all right, that

1710
01:25:25.960 --> 01:25:27.039
<v Speaker 5>was kind of funny.

1711
01:25:27.880 --> 01:25:29.840
<v Speaker 2>But really okay, at least you laughed.

1712
01:25:30.439 --> 01:25:32.319
<v Speaker 5>Well no, I mean it's like, I think, funny, like

1713
01:25:32.439 --> 01:25:35.119
<v Speaker 5>kind of like it wasn't so stupid, like it was

1714
01:25:35.119 --> 01:25:37.079
<v Speaker 5>like silly though that you can laugh.

1715
01:25:37.199 --> 01:25:39.439
<v Speaker 2>I've watched it. I've watched him with the understanding it's satirical,

1716
01:25:39.439 --> 01:25:41.319
<v Speaker 2>and I still have yet to laugh. But I see

1717
01:25:41.319 --> 01:25:41.840
<v Speaker 2>what you're saying.

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01:25:44.079 --> 01:25:46.319
<v Speaker 5>I think. I mean the Trump part I thought was

1719
01:25:46.319 --> 01:25:47.560
<v Speaker 5>actually probably the best.

1720
01:25:47.640 --> 01:25:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, Yeah, that at least has some satirical comedy to

1721
01:25:51.880 --> 01:25:54.600
<v Speaker 2>it today, right, Yeah, I think yeah, today it kind

1722
01:25:54.600 --> 01:25:55.159
<v Speaker 2>of does.

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01:25:56.520 --> 01:25:56.640
<v Speaker 6>Well.

1724
01:25:56.720 --> 01:25:59.880
<v Speaker 5>The simple fact of like I did find it amusing,

1725
01:26:01.399 --> 01:26:03.520
<v Speaker 5>how he slapped his shit out of that chick and

1726
01:26:03.640 --> 01:26:06.720
<v Speaker 5>how like it was like no, I mean I think

1727
01:26:06.760 --> 01:26:08.159
<v Speaker 5>he did kind of make a point like, oh, I

1728
01:26:08.159 --> 01:26:11.159
<v Speaker 5>guess she got even, but like she really didn't do

1729
01:26:11.279 --> 01:26:13.560
<v Speaker 5>those guys didn't really do anything to her except for

1730
01:26:13.640 --> 01:26:15.319
<v Speaker 5>tire in the chair and she just like fucking blow

1731
01:26:15.399 --> 01:26:15.720
<v Speaker 5>him away.

1732
01:26:15.720 --> 01:26:18.279
<v Speaker 2>And there was like, uh, that's a good point.

1733
01:26:18.479 --> 01:26:21.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, just don't know how he is. It just seemed interesting.

1734
01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:23.520
<v Speaker 5>I think the character he played.

1735
01:26:24.199 --> 01:26:26.640
<v Speaker 4>Well there applied our word in there.

1736
01:26:26.880 --> 01:26:30.000
<v Speaker 1>You know as well she said something about how they

1737
01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:31.479
<v Speaker 1>took advantage of her or something.

1738
01:26:34.600 --> 01:26:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I uh well, I mean as far as Bill

1739
01:26:36.760 --> 01:26:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Maher play an action star, I would much rather watch

1740
01:26:38.960 --> 01:26:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Tom Cruise play a tall guy who knows how to fight,

1741
01:26:41.119 --> 01:26:43.279
<v Speaker 2>rather than Bill Maher play a tall guy he knows

1742
01:26:43.279 --> 01:26:43.680
<v Speaker 2>how to fight.

1743
01:26:44.640 --> 01:26:45.840
<v Speaker 5>The cartwheel was impressive.

1744
01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:50.399
<v Speaker 2>The car wheel was impressive. If if done they've done himself.

1745
01:26:50.399 --> 01:26:52.560
<v Speaker 2>That was an impressive move. Now, but I don't know

1746
01:26:52.560 --> 01:26:54.439
<v Speaker 2>about there's having sense with his fight scene. That's when

1747
01:26:54.520 --> 01:26:57.279
<v Speaker 2>to it's gonna play this clippery I forgot to play

1748
01:26:57.279 --> 01:26:59.680
<v Speaker 2>before him reiterate that he beat the brakes off a

1749
01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:05.920
<v Speaker 2>dank whale's wife.

1750
01:27:08.680 --> 01:27:11.399
<v Speaker 4>It's not playing right, let's freeze it out.

1751
01:27:12.880 --> 01:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>That's the best part too.

1752
01:27:14.239 --> 01:27:16.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that said, I was gonna choose.

1753
01:27:27.840 --> 01:27:30.119
<v Speaker 2>I think maybe the point was dan Quaila's cowerie in

1754
01:27:30.119 --> 01:27:31.960
<v Speaker 2>the corner. Maybe that was the point scene.

1755
01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:35.920
<v Speaker 5>Maybe so that ship with him on top of the

1756
01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:39.640
<v Speaker 5>crate acting like he's playing with the plane and bombing stuff,

1757
01:27:40.039 --> 01:27:43.359
<v Speaker 5>like acting like you know, yeah, they kept that going,

1758
01:27:43.399 --> 01:27:45.800
<v Speaker 5>They kept that, They kept going with that for a while.

1759
01:27:46.479 --> 01:27:48.079
<v Speaker 5>I was like, you know, this is still going with that.

1760
01:27:48.119 --> 01:27:50.319
<v Speaker 5>If you pay attention in the background, he does it

1761
01:27:50.399 --> 01:27:50.800
<v Speaker 5>for a minute.

1762
01:27:50.840 --> 01:27:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was doing the whole time, right, yeah, ship

1763
01:27:54.319 --> 01:27:54.520
<v Speaker 2>like that.

1764
01:27:54.600 --> 01:27:56.600
<v Speaker 5>I'll find funny. I was like, damn, he really kept

1765
01:27:56.600 --> 01:27:58.199
<v Speaker 5>that going for that long. But I mean, still it's

1766
01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:00.680
<v Speaker 5>just a shitty movie, but that tactic I find funny.

1767
01:28:01.680 --> 01:28:04.199
<v Speaker 2>I think we found next favorite favorite scene in the

1768
01:28:04.239 --> 01:28:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Pizza No Ones.

1769
01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:07.880
<v Speaker 5>No, actually, my favorite scene is credits.

1770
01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, there you go, which was weird. All the music

1771
01:28:11.760 --> 01:28:13.680
<v Speaker 2>was written like for this film too, and if you

1772
01:28:13.680 --> 01:28:16.159
<v Speaker 2>look at the lyrics, it was all like related to

1773
01:28:16.199 --> 01:28:17.880
<v Speaker 2>the scenes and some of this very strange stuff. I

1774
01:28:17.920 --> 01:28:22.520
<v Speaker 2>don't I don't, I don't have an explanation, but headless,

1775
01:28:22.560 --> 01:28:24.359
<v Speaker 2>what was your uh, what was your what was your

1776
01:28:24.359 --> 01:28:25.199
<v Speaker 2>favorite scene there?

1777
01:28:26.079 --> 01:28:32.039
<v Speaker 1>Obviously it was the obviously it was the scene with

1778
01:28:32.159 --> 01:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>the lady at the beginning where he's called me yes

1779
01:28:36.880 --> 01:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>the day calling her down was it should have happened

1780
01:28:41.720 --> 01:28:44.479
<v Speaker 1>a lot more. I don't think enough.

1781
01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:47.399
<v Speaker 2>Nice. Okay.

1782
01:28:47.800 --> 01:28:50.359
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they left her with like bloody teeth and everything too.

1783
01:28:51.079 --> 01:28:53.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh dude, Like yeah, like the whole film she's bloody

1784
01:28:53.760 --> 01:28:55.640
<v Speaker 2>that she dies. I'm like, what is the message with this?

1785
01:28:55.760 --> 01:28:58.159
<v Speaker 2>With this situation here? Right? Like what are they doing here?

1786
01:28:58.640 --> 01:29:00.279
<v Speaker 2>She's not really love it. I mean she's like like

1787
01:29:00.279 --> 01:29:02.720
<v Speaker 2>a love interest without being a love interest kind of deal,

1788
01:29:02.880 --> 01:29:05.840
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. Like, it's not Yeah, it's

1789
01:29:05.960 --> 01:29:09.800
<v Speaker 2>very it's very odd. Interactions would even go out.

1790
01:29:09.960 --> 01:29:11.039
<v Speaker 5>He doesn't even want to pay for.

1791
01:29:12.600 --> 01:29:19.039
<v Speaker 2>Right, right. Yeah, they he mixed some solid points of

1792
01:29:19.079 --> 01:29:22.800
<v Speaker 2>the any credit scene being the best scene. There's really

1793
01:29:22.800 --> 01:29:25.000
<v Speaker 2>not an aspect. And when I like, when I recommended

1794
01:29:25.039 --> 01:29:26.399
<v Speaker 2>this to y'all, I was like, oh, this is gonna

1795
01:29:26.399 --> 01:29:28.239
<v Speaker 2>be good because I it's like a you know, it's

1796
01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:30.680
<v Speaker 2>a bit obviously because it's not a good movie. It's

1797
01:29:30.680 --> 01:29:33.800
<v Speaker 2>debably not a good film whatsoever. There's a lot I mean,

1798
01:29:33.800 --> 01:29:36.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm a I'm a big fan of of cinema, of

1799
01:29:36.399 --> 01:29:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Hollywood and whatnot have been since I was a child.

1800
01:29:39.479 --> 01:29:41.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean, most of the film is not anymore. There's

1801
01:29:41.239 --> 01:29:43.319
<v Speaker 2>nothing really good produce. But you know, during that was

1802
01:29:43.399 --> 01:29:45.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of the era which I would watch just about

1803
01:29:45.039 --> 01:29:48.439
<v Speaker 2>everything that I could get on VHS, and uh yeah,

1804
01:29:48.439 --> 01:29:50.239
<v Speaker 2>I never heard of that or seen that even at

1805
01:29:50.279 --> 01:29:52.640
<v Speaker 2>the time, like you know, because I watched everything. I'm like, man,

1806
01:29:52.720 --> 01:29:54.640
<v Speaker 2>this is I see some bad movies of that era,

1807
01:29:54.680 --> 01:29:56.920
<v Speaker 2>and this that this movie was. I mean, it might

1808
01:29:56.960 --> 01:29:59.680
<v Speaker 2>be the worst. It might if the Razzies existed at

1809
01:29:59.680 --> 01:30:01.920
<v Speaker 2>the time. I don't think that things is pret razzi.

1810
01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:05.520
<v Speaker 2>If the Razzies existed, it should have won, which is,

1811
01:30:05.600 --> 01:30:06.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, the worst film of the year or whatever,

1812
01:30:07.399 --> 01:30:08.439
<v Speaker 2>the opposite of the Emmy.

1813
01:30:09.000 --> 01:30:12.000
<v Speaker 1>It's got a lot of potential as being a Swiss

1814
01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:16.439
<v Speaker 1>of memes, you know, like you turn a lot of those.

1815
01:30:16.279 --> 01:30:18.279
<v Speaker 5>Scenes that's like an untapped swisser.

1816
01:30:18.359 --> 01:30:22.479
<v Speaker 1>Means, if if Bill Maher wasn't so ugly, you could

1817
01:30:23.000 --> 01:30:25.399
<v Speaker 1>trying to do a big meme factory.

1818
01:30:25.439 --> 01:30:28.079
<v Speaker 5>But it might might be interesting to start making some

1819
01:30:28.199 --> 01:30:29.920
<v Speaker 5>memes like it, like when you got to catch the

1820
01:30:29.960 --> 01:30:33.680
<v Speaker 5>frame where he's like smacking the chick, making memes with

1821
01:30:33.720 --> 01:30:37.720
<v Speaker 5>that and see how he reacts. Yeah, if that catches on,

1822
01:30:37.840 --> 01:30:38.960
<v Speaker 5>and see how it reacts to that.

1823
01:30:40.119 --> 01:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I actually tried doing that. I was going through old

1824
01:30:42.720 --> 01:30:46.439
<v Speaker 1>eighties movies and catching you know, because there's a bunch

1825
01:30:46.479 --> 01:30:49.199
<v Speaker 1>of them that are just super weird, like, uh, they're

1826
01:30:49.279 --> 01:30:53.399
<v Speaker 1>kind of like exploitation slash you know, frat movies, like

1827
01:30:53.439 --> 01:30:58.520
<v Speaker 1>the party movies. Right, it's crazy like meme potential in

1828
01:30:58.640 --> 01:30:59.479
<v Speaker 1>some of that stuff.

1829
01:31:01.640 --> 01:31:04.560
<v Speaker 4>I just haven't seen it, you know, right.

1830
01:31:05.359 --> 01:31:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Bill Bill Martin is really not an actor,

1831
01:31:07.680 --> 01:31:09.319
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Him acting in that film

1832
01:31:09.439 --> 01:31:11.560
<v Speaker 2>is is kind of an outlying role for him. I

1833
01:31:11.600 --> 01:31:13.680
<v Speaker 2>mean he I think the only other movie he did

1834
01:31:13.720 --> 01:31:17.199
<v Speaker 2>was written by the same guy. Was like another another

1835
01:31:17.279 --> 01:31:25.119
<v Speaker 2>obscure movie, right like yeah he uh. He also starred

1836
01:31:25.119 --> 01:31:29.279
<v Speaker 2>in its definitely written by the same guy. Something about

1837
01:31:29.359 --> 01:31:47.279
<v Speaker 2>Amazon women and oh boy other Jungle of Death and

1838
01:31:47.319 --> 01:31:51.800
<v Speaker 2>then Pizza Man written by the same guy. Wow, so

1839
01:31:52.800 --> 01:31:53.760
<v Speaker 2>very obscure films.

1840
01:31:54.079 --> 01:31:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Was that a robot movie?

1841
01:31:59.560 --> 01:32:05.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what this is starring Shannon Tweed. She's

1842
01:32:05.199 --> 01:32:09.119
<v Speaker 2>a Canadian. I was played withoy model Bill Maher. That's

1843
01:32:09.119 --> 01:32:12.119
<v Speaker 2>an odd okay, Yeah, same guy. J F Wawdon are you? Written,

1844
01:32:12.119 --> 01:32:17.960
<v Speaker 2>written and directed by Jaff Wawdon. Wow, Yeah, it seems

1845
01:32:18.000 --> 01:32:21.079
<v Speaker 2>like a seems like an odd odd one.

1846
01:32:21.760 --> 01:32:24.319
<v Speaker 1>He's got me hooked. I got to see this movie.

1847
01:32:24.960 --> 01:32:27.199
<v Speaker 2>I've heard the name Adrian Barbo that. I'm not sure

1848
01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:31.279
<v Speaker 2>I've heard her old Grease Okay gre there.

1849
01:32:33.560 --> 01:32:34.239
<v Speaker 1>That's weird.

1850
01:32:34.840 --> 01:32:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Not the actor Dean Stockwell, but someone playing the name

1851
01:32:37.359 --> 01:32:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Dean Stalkwell. I wonder if that what that's about. Yeah, yeah,

1852
01:32:42.520 --> 01:32:43.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's odd. He's just not you know, he's

1853
01:32:43.960 --> 01:32:46.319
<v Speaker 2>not an actor. I mean, he's these other roles here,

1854
01:32:46.439 --> 01:32:49.199
<v Speaker 2>besides those two films. So again, an appearance of something

1855
01:32:49.239 --> 01:32:52.439
<v Speaker 2>called d C. Cab rat Boy. It was a role

1856
01:32:52.520 --> 01:32:55.880
<v Speaker 2>party guest, something called House to the second story, which

1857
01:32:55.920 --> 01:32:58.720
<v Speaker 2>is oh Fred Decker. Yeah, he's a diddler. That makes sense.

1858
01:33:00.920 --> 01:33:03.119
<v Speaker 2>It's the it's the guy from Monster Squad and the

1859
01:33:03.239 --> 01:33:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Predator film writer. He's a he was actually he was

1860
01:33:06.840 --> 01:33:09.159
<v Speaker 2>actually blacklist from Hollywood for a long time. But yeah,

1861
01:33:09.199 --> 01:33:13.079
<v Speaker 2>he's a confirmed convicted dealer. Not shocked at the Mars

1862
01:33:13.079 --> 01:33:16.760
<v Speaker 2>starring announcement start acting in his film What is this?

1863
01:33:17.319 --> 01:33:20.439
<v Speaker 2>Robert Butler and Bruce Abbott or Bruce Abbot Bill Meyer

1864
01:33:20.560 --> 01:33:27.279
<v Speaker 2>called out of time well, this looks weird. What it's

1865
01:33:27.319 --> 01:33:30.520
<v Speaker 2>a failed television pilot made into a TV movie. Okay,

1866
01:33:31.920 --> 01:33:35.159
<v Speaker 2>some sort of a buddy cop uh, you know, sci

1867
01:33:35.199 --> 01:33:40.479
<v Speaker 2>fi trying SPACEFLK looks like, yeah, I can't imagine where

1868
01:33:40.479 --> 01:33:45.439
<v Speaker 2>that failed. I mean again, Bill Maher's acting chops, I don't.

1869
01:33:45.479 --> 01:33:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not saying I'm an actor, but I'm

1870
01:33:46.960 --> 01:33:48.720
<v Speaker 2>just saying like, yeah, if you're gonna act, I mean

1871
01:33:48.720 --> 01:33:50.439
<v Speaker 2>that ain't. I don't know what that you know, he's not.

1872
01:33:51.239 --> 01:33:53.119
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't call anything he did in that film acting.

1873
01:33:53.159 --> 01:33:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean that, I like what we saw on that.

1874
01:33:55.039 --> 01:33:57.199
<v Speaker 2>Even the pizza man is like a I think the

1875
01:33:57.279 --> 01:33:59.600
<v Speaker 2>law in Alerts part is. Bill Maher's personality is that

1876
01:33:59.680 --> 01:34:01.920
<v Speaker 2>dry kind of you know, very kind of dry sense.

1877
01:34:01.960 --> 01:34:03.920
<v Speaker 2>That's the kind of impression I get from the guy.

1878
01:34:04.439 --> 01:34:07.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's any depth of acting in the Guys. Again,

1879
01:34:07.159 --> 01:34:08.960
<v Speaker 2>if he did his fight scenes, good for him. That's

1880
01:34:09.319 --> 01:34:10.520
<v Speaker 2>some stunt work, I guess. Right.

1881
01:34:11.840 --> 01:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>It's funny though his entire early career seems to be

1882
01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:19.279
<v Speaker 1>nothing but a string of failures, right, like, how do

1883
01:34:19.319 --> 01:34:21.520
<v Speaker 1>you how does the guy like that rise to prominence

1884
01:34:21.520 --> 01:34:24.920
<v Speaker 1>when you know, I mean, every one of these movies

1885
01:34:25.000 --> 01:34:25.720
<v Speaker 1>was a stinker.

1886
01:34:28.199 --> 01:34:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Sure, Sure, that's there's another Hollywood guy that got banished

1887
01:34:31.680 --> 01:34:33.920
<v Speaker 2>for a little while but came back. Yeah, sometimes they

1888
01:34:34.039 --> 01:34:35.920
<v Speaker 2>just have to go get suspended for a while, you know,

1889
01:34:36.439 --> 01:34:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Bred Decker, Victor Salva, you know what I mean. That's

1890
01:34:39.880 --> 01:34:42.840
<v Speaker 2>that's Francis Ford Copple is underling Victor Salva. Some dark

1891
01:34:42.880 --> 01:34:46.239
<v Speaker 2>shit around that tale. That's for damn sure. Francis Ford

1892
01:34:46.319 --> 01:34:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Copele made the victim come back over to to finish

1893
01:34:48.800 --> 01:34:51.079
<v Speaker 2>the movie. I forgot raped by the director on the film.

1894
01:34:51.399 --> 01:34:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Crazy what But anyhow, Yeah, so you know a lot

1895
01:34:55.119 --> 01:34:57.239
<v Speaker 2>of the That's what I'm saying. Whenever I see there's

1896
01:34:57.439 --> 01:35:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I know, folks have probably some some sort of I

1897
01:35:00.279 --> 01:35:02.039
<v Speaker 2>mean hopefully not too many people in this day and age,

1898
01:35:02.039 --> 01:35:04.680
<v Speaker 2>but you know, idealistic perspective of Hollywood. I just see

1899
01:35:04.720 --> 01:35:08.720
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of kiddudlers, you know what I mean. I

1900
01:35:08.760 --> 01:35:11.560
<v Speaker 2>see I see the Pizza Man and the kid Love productions.

1901
01:35:11.560 --> 01:35:12.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, this makes a lot of sense. And

1902
01:35:12.840 --> 01:35:14.720
<v Speaker 2>I see Bill Maher one of the few other acting

1903
01:35:14.800 --> 01:35:18.079
<v Speaker 2>roles he's in a Fred Decker film, Like, ah, okay, okay,

1904
01:35:18.680 --> 01:35:20.920
<v Speaker 2>I see what's going on here, And I see what's

1905
01:35:20.960 --> 01:35:21.560
<v Speaker 2>going on here?

1906
01:35:21.760 --> 01:35:23.880
<v Speaker 1>That's too many points right.

1907
01:35:24.640 --> 01:35:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh, speaking of Nickelodeon, Dan Schneider stuff. Uh, they lost

1908
01:35:28.920 --> 01:35:32.119
<v Speaker 2>one of their child actresses today that Michelle Trachtenberg was

1909
01:35:32.119 --> 01:35:35.840
<v Speaker 2>found dead to day she got she got her monster

1910
01:35:35.960 --> 01:35:38.239
<v Speaker 2>career there on Dan Schneider's Nickelodeon.

1911
01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:40.880
<v Speaker 4>Really I thought it was Buffy.

1912
01:35:42.079 --> 01:35:44.800
<v Speaker 2>No, this is before Buffy. I don't know, don't ask you

1913
01:35:44.840 --> 01:35:46.199
<v Speaker 2>what show she was on. I just know she was on.

1914
01:35:46.520 --> 01:35:50.039
<v Speaker 2>She was one of their early you know, I'll tell

1915
01:35:50.039 --> 01:35:52.600
<v Speaker 2>you right now, she's one of the early starlets there

1916
01:35:52.600 --> 01:35:56.520
<v Speaker 2>on the in the you know, mid nineties, maybe on Nickelodeon,

1917
01:35:56.920 --> 01:36:01.920
<v Speaker 2>early nineties, maybe staying by one second, I'll tell you

1918
01:36:02.319 --> 01:36:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Pete and Pete nineteen ninety four to nineteen ninety six,

1919
01:36:05.079 --> 01:36:07.640
<v Speaker 2>a shit, and then she and then she continued to

1920
01:36:07.680 --> 01:36:11.279
<v Speaker 2>start multiple Nickelodeon productions following that. This is, you know,

1921
01:36:11.439 --> 01:36:15.399
<v Speaker 2>in the nineties. Yeah, so she, uh, that's a that's

1922
01:36:15.399 --> 01:36:17.880
<v Speaker 2>a pet and Pete. That's that's during the Schneider Schneider

1923
01:36:17.920 --> 01:36:21.439
<v Speaker 2>era of uh of you know Nickelodeon. He wasn't the

1924
01:36:22.119 --> 01:36:24.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, the the guy that created that show, right,

1925
01:36:24.399 --> 01:36:26.439
<v Speaker 2>but you know, this is the era in which Schneider

1926
01:36:26.479 --> 01:36:28.680
<v Speaker 2>takes over control of Nickelodeon. This is when they're changing

1927
01:36:28.720 --> 01:36:31.800
<v Speaker 2>the logo to a foot, you know what I mean? Right?

1928
01:36:32.520 --> 01:36:35.560
<v Speaker 2>He would subsequently produce, be the executi producer and basically

1929
01:36:35.560 --> 01:36:38.159
<v Speaker 2>every you know, popular show after that show.

1930
01:36:39.399 --> 01:36:41.439
<v Speaker 1>Well, Pete and Pete had a lot of feet references.

1931
01:36:41.479 --> 01:36:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that was one of the big smush flakes that.

1932
01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:46.600
<v Speaker 2>He Oh oh did it really?

1933
01:36:47.119 --> 01:36:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I mean he was always doing smush flakes in

1934
01:36:49.960 --> 01:36:51.199
<v Speaker 1>each one of his shows.

1935
01:36:51.560 --> 01:36:53.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know right. It's kind of gross, isn't it.

1936
01:36:53.479 --> 01:36:54.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1937
01:36:54.359 --> 01:36:56.279
<v Speaker 2>I saw some comments. I want to get too far

1938
01:36:56.279 --> 01:36:57.840
<v Speaker 2>off on that tangent, but I saw some comments about

1939
01:36:57.840 --> 01:37:00.439
<v Speaker 2>Pee Diddy earlier. Isn't it weird that Pete Day he did,

1940
01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:03.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, some guest appearances on some Dan Schneider Nickelodeon chows.

1941
01:37:04.560 --> 01:37:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that strange?

1942
01:37:05.880 --> 01:37:08.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

1943
01:37:09.159 --> 01:37:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Makes you wonder, you wonder how how how much of

1944
01:37:12.239 --> 01:37:15.159
<v Speaker 2>this pizza stuff is going on in Hollywood? You know?

1945
01:37:15.840 --> 01:37:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, I know what Anna Paulina Luda, Luda's got her

1946
01:37:20.079 --> 01:37:21.840
<v Speaker 1>work cut out for and trying to get rid of

1947
01:37:21.880 --> 01:37:25.199
<v Speaker 1>those references that are inconvenient.

1948
01:37:26.399 --> 01:37:28.439
<v Speaker 2>I thought you're gonna say, she's gonna she's gonna solve

1949
01:37:28.479 --> 01:37:36.319
<v Speaker 2>everything for us. Oh yeah, does she? I wonder when

1950
01:37:36.359 --> 01:37:38.199
<v Speaker 2>she goes and walks, you know, walks up to these

1951
01:37:38.199 --> 01:37:40.239
<v Speaker 2>podiums and what not to get her speeches unless you

1952
01:37:40.239 --> 01:37:41.800
<v Speaker 2>have like a song like she used to have at

1953
01:37:41.800 --> 01:37:43.800
<v Speaker 2>the Strip club, you know, like an entrance song.

1954
01:37:45.199 --> 01:37:47.359
<v Speaker 4>You know she was raised Jewish.

1955
01:37:48.399 --> 01:37:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, So.

1956
01:37:51.079 --> 01:37:53.319
<v Speaker 1>It's it's all of it. I mean, like they can't

1957
01:37:53.399 --> 01:37:56.399
<v Speaker 1>let anything about Israel get out. They can't let anything

1958
01:37:56.399 --> 01:37:59.399
<v Speaker 1>about you know, any of the associates that they might

1959
01:37:59.439 --> 01:38:01.960
<v Speaker 1>have get out out. So there's a there's a real

1960
01:38:02.039 --> 01:38:05.359
<v Speaker 1>good reason why they put her in charge of letting

1961
01:38:05.359 --> 01:38:06.640
<v Speaker 1>these things out. Because she ain't.

1962
01:38:06.640 --> 01:38:07.199
<v Speaker 4>You got to do it.

1963
01:38:07.560 --> 01:38:10.399
<v Speaker 1>The first hearing is going to be on March twenty ninth,

1964
01:38:11.920 --> 01:38:13.319
<v Speaker 1>just an awful full month.

1965
01:38:13.920 --> 01:38:15.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna hold my breath until that date then

1966
01:38:15.640 --> 01:38:19.680
<v Speaker 2>because I know they're going to solve it right. Well, Well, Jents,

1967
01:38:19.720 --> 01:38:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate your time. You got any closing comments or

1968
01:38:21.920 --> 01:38:23.960
<v Speaker 2>anything you want to plug here before we before we

1969
01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:24.439
<v Speaker 2>wrap up.

1970
01:38:24.399 --> 01:38:27.520
<v Speaker 4>The show, just check me out tomorrow night.

1971
01:38:27.640 --> 01:38:31.000
<v Speaker 1>We got uh, we got reading emails going on, So

1972
01:38:31.079 --> 01:38:33.760
<v Speaker 1>if you want to send your stories to me about

1973
01:38:33.880 --> 01:38:34.960
<v Speaker 1>and we'll read them on air.

1974
01:38:35.159 --> 01:38:36.159
<v Speaker 4>They could be anonymous.

1975
01:38:36.760 --> 01:38:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Uh, just send it over to Headless Giant Podcast at

1976
01:38:40.600 --> 01:38:42.960
<v Speaker 1>gmail dot com and we will read them.

1977
01:38:43.039 --> 01:38:46.039
<v Speaker 2>So that's good. I'll send you when I was thinking

1978
01:38:46.079 --> 01:38:49.239
<v Speaker 2>about time when my associates and I had actually kidnapped

1979
01:38:49.239 --> 01:38:51.399
<v Speaker 2>the satch of Liberty in which to fight the evil

1980
01:38:51.560 --> 01:38:53.119
<v Speaker 2>ghost creature that come back from the dead.

1981
01:38:55.159 --> 01:38:57.319
<v Speaker 1>Don't you mean the stay Puff marshmallow Man.

1982
01:38:57.560 --> 01:39:05.279
<v Speaker 2>Damn it? No, that's my bads ghostbusters to my apologies, Nick.

1983
01:39:05.319 --> 01:39:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Do you have any any closing thoughts, any statements for anything?

1984
01:39:08.720 --> 01:39:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Working on a plugs? Uh?

1985
01:39:11.279 --> 01:39:13.000
<v Speaker 5>No, just I guess to check out the life this

1986
01:39:13.079 --> 01:39:18.560
<v Speaker 5>Saturday Friday, Yes, and Friday. That's right, that's right, that is.

1987
01:39:20.199 --> 01:39:20.560
<v Speaker 2>I bet.

1988
01:39:21.399 --> 01:39:24.199
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, know that that's about it. Yeah all right.

1989
01:39:24.680 --> 01:39:29.039
<v Speaker 2>All right on that note, Well that's it. That's the

1990
01:39:29.079 --> 01:39:30.079
<v Speaker 2>show here, folks.

1991
01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:33.760
<v Speaker 8>So the next time you're out on the town, visit

1992
01:39:33.800 --> 01:39:37.439
<v Speaker 8>in your local watering holes or perhaps just mandering around

1993
01:39:38.039 --> 01:39:42.279
<v Speaker 8>and you hear the unmistakable sounds of metal clanking and

1994
01:39:42.399 --> 01:39:47.239
<v Speaker 8>you spot signs of a disturbance, check your six look

1995
01:39:47.319 --> 01:39:51.000
<v Speaker 8>in that garbage can, because you never can tell

1996
01:39:51.680 --> 01:39:54.439
<v Speaker 2>The GCDs may be loose in your town.