Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: What's going to happen?
Speaker 1: What I.
Speaker 2: Formerly known as Springfield, Ohio. It's the location where they're
Speaker 2: eating the cats, they're eating the dogs. Anyhow, folks, I
Speaker 2: will be your pilot and navigator for this Shenanigan infused
Speaker 2: journey to the mind of this particular garbage. Can dude
Speaker 2: and join me here tonight.
Speaker 3: For a operation GCD Occult and or Esoteric film review
Speaker 3: is Headless Giant and Nick of the Occult Rejects.
Speaker 2: Welcome gents.
Speaker 1: How you doing great to have it back JJ.
Speaker 2: At a short Hiatis back and back and functioning for
Speaker 2: the town banging at least right and uh we'll uh,
Speaker 2: we'll definitely have to dive into a future Friday's discussion
Speaker 2: their Headless. You have to join me and Nick here
Speaker 2: again for another Fridays. I know Nick and I have
Speaker 2: both been we've both been missing different Friday shows over
Speaker 2: recent weeks. We actually just had our first one back
Speaker 2: together this past Friday, So definitely you have to get
Speaker 2: that knocked out here in the month of March. You
Speaker 2: have to join us for another conversation. But I look
Speaker 2: forward to the look forward to the night's conversations there
Speaker 2: fellas the uh I believe you both have watched tonight's
Speaker 2: film review of the nineteen ninety one cinematic masterpiece Keats.
Speaker 4: A Man as much as a stomach.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I will have to say it was kind of
Speaker 5: a shitty movie.
Speaker 2: Kind of a kind of a shitty movie, to the
Speaker 2: point where I the first time I watched I watched it,
Speaker 2: I was like, what like? That was my review of what? Like?
Speaker 2: What did? I just like? What? What did I just watch?
Speaker 4: It was?
Speaker 1: It was really something.
Speaker 5: Well, I think if if you go in the mind
Speaker 5: frame that I want to watch a cheesy, shitty movie,
Speaker 5: it's actually it will be a good movie, and like,
Speaker 5: I can see myself enjoying it. If I was in
Speaker 5: a different mind frame of why I was watching it,
Speaker 5: they'd be like, Yo, this shit is fucking dumb but funny.
Speaker 2: Now, I totally agree with that. Your meta analysis there, Nick,
Speaker 2: was your what was your thoughts there? Headless? Before we
Speaker 2: get into is why don't you guys you have a
Speaker 2: proper introduction here of Nick from the occulty rejects you
Speaker 2: got anything you're working on over there? The plug before
Speaker 2: we get started in this wonderful film review of the
Speaker 2: greatest film of nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 5: Uh oh, go ahead, Headless, you go, Headless.
Speaker 1: I got a show coming up tomorrow where we're going
Speaker 1: over emails of people's occult, magical, paranormal dreams and experiences
Speaker 1: that they've had. And that's gonna be tomorrow night on
Speaker 1: Headless Giant YouTube channel.
Speaker 4: So check that out.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, definitely looking forward to that.
Speaker 2: Ranks and is that is that? Are you joining him
Speaker 2: for that? Nick that you? I know you guys have
Speaker 2: been doing that ever recent weeks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, if I can, I like to. I think
Speaker 5: it's fun. I really enjoyed.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, I watched the last two weeks. As my understanding.
Speaker 2: You got an interesting email two weeks ago about some
Speaker 2: ghost busting in New York City.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was strange. Some guy named JJ was trolling us.
Speaker 5: I think she said he got pegged by ghosts.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of a lot of That sounds tragic.
Speaker 2: That sounds real tragic. Yeah, apparently it's unfortunate mistake. I
Speaker 2: apparently mismistook my life for the life of Dan Aykroyd's
Speaker 2: character in the film Ghostbusters. Easy error to make, I understand,
Speaker 2: But uh, I did like the Mound discussion last week.
Speaker 2: I tuned in for that as well.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, Manson's pretty cool guy.
Speaker 1: If you guys want to follow him on at Manson
Speaker 1: rollers on uh x, He's a great follow.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I've been enjoying that surge y'all are doing
Speaker 2: over there? What else is going on the Occult Rejects? Nick?
Speaker 5: Let me see what do I got? I think tomorrow
Speaker 5: I got a show drop it actually no Thursday, I
Speaker 5: have the uh oh, yeah, we got that show that
Speaker 5: being you did yesterday actually is going to be dropping Friday. Yeah.
Speaker 5: That Mormonism is Yeah, how it Hughes and Cia stuff
Speaker 5: should be pretty interesting. It's gonna be a multi part series.
Speaker 5: We got that drop in tomorrow. And I don't want
Speaker 5: to mention the name because I mean, odds are certain
Speaker 5: someone will probably put out a show before I can.
Speaker 5: But we are doing a live Saturday night on a cult.
Speaker 5: I don't even want to put it on the title
Speaker 5: on YouTube because I'm sure I'll see like three different
Speaker 5: people jump on it before I, you know, do it myself.
Speaker 5: But do you want to let people know to look
Speaker 5: out for that? It will be me jj Ethan and
Speaker 5: Lisa covering a topic Saturday.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to. I'm looking forward to this top
Speaker 2: Secret Brownie project on Saturday night.
Speaker 5: Well, no, you know, I was texting you earlier joking
Speaker 5: around about it like that shit does happen. Though I
Speaker 5: hate to say it, it does happen.
Speaker 2: I know. I think it's hilarious because you're You're spot
Speaker 2: on for sure, exactly.
Speaker 5: Especially when the same person doesn't like three times in a.
Speaker 2: Row right now. And we got Fridays going on with
Speaker 2: this Friday Night with bat all Us from UH the
Speaker 2: Shadow and Truth and Shadow podcasts and UH, I believe
Speaker 2: also the Unrefined podcast. I believe it was the other
Speaker 2: one he's he's a co host of UH. Pretty pretty
Speaker 2: interesting fella, Pretty interesting dude, got a lot of insight,
Speaker 2: a lot of parapolitics and conspiracy and conspiracy theory topics.
Speaker 2: And I think he's got a lot from a Christian
Speaker 2: angle too, because he's having on Christian stuff. Kind of
Speaker 2: appreciate that perspective. So I uh, I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 2: And that's Friday night at nine pm meter time here.
Speaker 2: But UH got a couple of good lineups here on
Speaker 2: Fridays coming up, so that'll be a couple of exciting
Speaker 2: shows here coming forward. Did I get locked out my frozen?
Speaker 4: No, you're good now look back.
Speaker 1: Sort of?
Speaker 5: Oh no, back went back, You're back out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we see Wallis on Friday, and we got
Speaker 2: a couple of other good folks lined up here in
Speaker 2: the subsequent weeks for Fridays, So definitely looking forward to that.
Speaker 2: And as far as operationing GCD Live back next Wednesday
Speaker 2: Night with Lord knows what topic, I'm not sure yet.
Speaker 2: I got a couple of bounds around my mind, most
Speaker 2: recently when I was describing the nick their day, and
Speaker 2: strangely enough, it was regarding the Monica Lewinsky affair. And
Speaker 2: strangely enough, she came out today making much of wild
Speaker 2: comments on it. Oh they're gonna roll her back out again,
Speaker 2: aren't they?
Speaker 5: Maybe you should cover that.
Speaker 2: I meant, yeah, how she's a limited hangout and she
Speaker 2: was basically been employed by the Clinton since then. I
Speaker 2: mean the numerous Clinton folks with the Clinton's Orbit, folks
Speaker 2: who were involved with the Clinton Global Initiative, the Clinton Foundation,
Speaker 2: these are the folks that have been employing her.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, don't forget the macade.
Speaker 2: Well, that's always the elephant in the room. Is it not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's The whole Monica Lewinsky story is
Speaker 1: just hilarious. Once you get a little bit of the backstory,
Speaker 1: it's like, Wow, they really tried to well, I guess
Speaker 1: it served its purpose, right.
Speaker 2: It did. Because it did, it gets super wild because
Speaker 2: then I'll just give you a quick meta analysis of
Speaker 2: the situation, a little strategic outlook if you will. Uh.
Speaker 2: A lot of the folks that involved in Trump Russia
Speaker 2: Gate framing stuff were involved in the Monica Lewinsky affair,
Speaker 2: right to include Lonnie Davis, who was the chief counsel
Speaker 2: of the White House at that time, and he was
Speaker 2: the he was Michael Michael Trump's attorney, that one dude
Speaker 2: that kept rolling out there, Michael Cohen. Yep, his attorney
Speaker 2: was Lonnie Davis. Why the fuck would he hire Lonnie Davis?
Speaker 2: You know? I mean, this is Bill Clinton's you know,
Speaker 2: goon for many years, right, including the number one goon
Speaker 2: in the Lewinsky affair. But the Lewinsky affair was interesting
Speaker 2: because it brought Matt Drudge as this conservative person on
Speaker 2: the scene and he scooped. He's his fame claimed to
Speaker 2: fame during Lewinsky affair was scooping this anfamous writer, Michael Isikoff,
Speaker 2: he scooped is a Kauf on the on the story,
Speaker 2: as the legend goes well, is a Couf, the one
Speaker 2: who did all the sets rich coverage for russ Gate stuff,
Speaker 2: even to the whole podcast series on the subject. So
Speaker 2: he's deeply involved in all that nonsense. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's you know, do you have these seemingly disparre para
Speaker 2: political incidents happening decades apart, But it's the same same
Speaker 2: fucking people the world is.
Speaker 1: The world is being run by publicists. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: they're just writing the scripts up and throwing these people
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 2: It seems that way times, does it not? And tonight
Speaker 2: tonight in our film review discussion, uh, some of this
Speaker 2: seems far off from the nineteen ninety one Uh, you
Speaker 2: know cinematic masterpiece Pizza Man, starring Bill Maher as a
Speaker 2: pizza delivery guy in a what is kind of a
Speaker 2: stunner or not a stunner noar, kind of a crime noir.
Speaker 2: But as had those pointed out, is pizza noar. And
Speaker 2: I think that's the that's the best way to described
Speaker 2: as God awful film. I'm being obviously being facetious when
Speaker 2: I say it's a cinematic masterpiece or a film at all.
Speaker 1: I do have to say it was genre bending, like
Speaker 1: it was just taking all these things and just squeezing them,
Speaker 1: trying to get all the all the juice out they could.
Speaker 2: But this is obviously, as you as you pell Saul,
Speaker 2: is very politically motivated kind of piece, kind of film,
Speaker 2: and those politics and the people involved in that film
Speaker 2: seemingly are still relevant today and just happened to revolve
Speaker 2: around the discussion of Jeffrey Epstein. So almost begs the
Speaker 2: question of is there a esoteric meaning to the the
Speaker 2: Pizza Man and the barb the ongoing you know, pizza trip,
Speaker 2: because they keep asking, you know, they keep using pizza
Speaker 2: in various strange contexts throughout the throughout the film, and
Speaker 2: obviously there's the overt context where Bill Meher plays a
Speaker 2: pizza man piece delivery man. However, the use of the
Speaker 2: word pizza is just all throughout the film, even you know,
Speaker 2: describing all sorts of different things, and they keeps want
Speaker 2: to say about releasing the pizza at one point in
Speaker 2: time and again this varying kind of context like that
Speaker 2: that just don't make a lot of sense, you know,
Speaker 2: on their face.
Speaker 1: Not at all. And they went for the obvious joke
Speaker 1: about the anchovies on the pizza several times.
Speaker 2: Well, it was very hacky, very hacky.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, there's something about the fish, like the fish,
Speaker 1: he's following the fish or something, and it's kind of
Speaker 1: got maybe the idea that maybe it's a Pisces type film.
Speaker 2: Woh.
Speaker 5: The fifteen twenty three is mentioned a law too. I
Speaker 5: did wonder about that, like they specified them mount so
Speaker 5: many times. I want that fifteen Still trying to get
Speaker 5: that fifteen twenty.
Speaker 2: Some of these numbers and stuff, because that's nothing I I,
Speaker 2: you know, ever I it's something I would pick up on.
Speaker 1: Well, what I got for fifteen twenty three was that
Speaker 1: several significant events took place around the world.
Speaker 4: In Europe.
Speaker 1: Christian the Second was forced to abdicate the king of
Speaker 1: Denmark and Norway on January twentieth, fifteen twenty three. Gustav
Speaker 1: Visa was elected King of Sweden on June sixth, marking
Speaker 1: the end of Kalmar Union and establishment of Sweden's independence
Speaker 1: from Denmark. Additionally, on June July the first Hendrick Vos,
Speaker 1: a Flemish priest in church reformer, was burned at the
Speaker 1: stake in fifteen twenty.
Speaker 2: Three's that's that's every good like that burned pizza you
Speaker 2: were talking about yesterday. The uh so fifteen twenty three,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I was gonna jump into this plot, but
Speaker 2: fifteen twenty three is like the main what is that? Said?
Speaker 2: Maybe one hundred times throughout the film they say fifteen
Speaker 2: to twenty three. And it started immediately in the introduction
Speaker 2: of the film when Bill Maher's trying to deliver a
Speaker 2: pizza and the bill for that pizza is fifteen dollars
Speaker 2: and twenty three cents, and he goes on demanding that
Speaker 2: same sum of money from everyone in their mother he
Speaker 2: meets throughout the film. But basically the plot line is
Speaker 2: Elmo Bunn. That's Bill Meher's character, which I don't know
Speaker 2: if there's any deeper meaning to the name, but we'll
Speaker 2: get back to that in a second.
Speaker 6: Look.
Speaker 2: I did look into that a little bit. Elmo Bunn
Speaker 2: is a La Pizza delivery man with a reputation for
Speaker 2: never having delivered a cold pizza or being stiffed on
Speaker 2: a bill when a call comes into his shop for
Speaker 2: an extra large with sausage and anchovy to go to
Speaker 2: a dangerous part of East Hollywood. Elmo knows he's in trouble,
Speaker 2: and that bill for that pizza and he thought I
Speaker 2: was was fifteen dollars and twenty three cents, And they
Speaker 2: described the previous pizza man he tried to deliver a
Speaker 2: pizza to that location was never seen again. So it's
Speaker 2: already it's already no ominous kind of situation surrounding this
Speaker 2: fifteen dollars and twenty three cent bill.
Speaker 4: I want to point something out real quick. Uh, the
Speaker 4: way you're delivering.
Speaker 1: That that message right there is exactly how it was
Speaker 1: delivered in the movie. There was no no subplot, no nothing,
Speaker 1: no like they just said that exact same thing like
Speaker 1: that could have just been read from the movie.
Speaker 2: Right. That's a good point there. Yeah, there's there's to
Speaker 2: be fair, there's zero character development, there's almost no well
Speaker 2: defined plot. You really don't understand what's going on in
Speaker 2: this film till the very last scene when you meet
Speaker 2: none other than Donald Trump the caarc. It's not Donald
Speaker 2: Trump the man, but it's somebody playing the character Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: And we'll get we'll get into We'll get into that point.
Speaker 2: Before we get to that, though, we got to describe
Speaker 2: what else leads Bill Maher to that situation, including meeting
Speaker 2: a number of political folks, right, So, like to me,
Speaker 2: this film was some sort of like, you know, there
Speaker 2: was some political intentions or some sort of political hit
Speaker 2: piece going on, which again I think is very intriguing
Speaker 2: relative to why Donald Trump's included in the film. But
Speaker 2: the first guy Bill Meher meets is the guy at
Speaker 2: the first stop there the the uh it happens to
Speaker 2: be the La mayor at that time, right, the guy
Speaker 2: who who ordered the sausage and Anchovi's pizza was none
Speaker 2: other than Mayor Tom Bradley, you know, obviously not the mayor,
Speaker 2: but somebody playing the mayor. Right.
Speaker 1: Well, there was a fight scene before that where he's
Speaker 1: fighting the mob Somehow he walks into this kind of
Speaker 1: warehouse looking thing that later on in the movie it's
Speaker 1: referenced that each one of these crates is full of gold.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how they got there, but anyways, his
Speaker 1: warehouse and then all these mobsters are sitting around and
Speaker 1: one guy is obviously trying to play off with the
Speaker 1: whole mobster cliche about having the jowls stick out or whatever,
Speaker 1: and so he's like, I'm just gonna eat my pizza
Speaker 1: and not give you any money. So the first guy
Speaker 1: to stiff him was this mobster guy who turns out
Speaker 1: to be an actor playing a mobster or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like a boot like Brando, right, like
Speaker 2: a bootleg Godfather looking character.
Speaker 1: Right. It was just a really bad Brando impression.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he worked for Yeah, you're right. But then
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, when after he fights that guy,
Speaker 2: then Tom Bradley pops in with an AK forty seven.
Speaker 2: Right there, he goes your anti gun, like the anti
Speaker 2: gun stuffed on this film is it's pretty. It's pretty
Speaker 2: in your face, right.
Speaker 1: No, that's one of the first things that Elmo does
Speaker 1: is talk about how he's a liberal Democrat and he
Speaker 1: voted for the mayor and even though you don't believe
Speaker 1: in gun there's always a gun store open in La
Speaker 1: that he can go visit and pick up Amo.
Speaker 2: Here's a comment on fifteen twenty. Yeah, no, you're right.
Speaker 2: It was at three in the morning too, So there
Speaker 2: acting like it was a twenty four to seven gun shop, right, right,
Speaker 2: fifteen twenty three eleven eleven is the essence of all
Speaker 2: that is sinful, harmful and imperfect. I was that that's
Speaker 2: the uh you had them all together.
Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe yeah, that's what it looks like.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, no, just catching up on some of
Speaker 2: these some of these comments here in the chat, so
Speaker 2: you know, I think, uh, yeah, so, I mean obviously have.
Speaker 1: They got him?
Speaker 5: They got him for.
Speaker 2: My back? Yeah yeah so then yeah, so the first scene, like,
Speaker 2: you know, you have this immediate you know situation where
Speaker 2: the mob is working with the LA mayor, right, and
Speaker 2: they're describing how they've swimmled, you know, lots of money
Speaker 2: from the from the city and some sort of train project, right,
Speaker 2: which I think is funny because, you know, not LA specific,
Speaker 2: but in recent years California, Gavin Newsoman gang have been
Speaker 2: squandering upwards of one hundred bion dollars on some railway system.
Speaker 2: So you know, some things never changed out there in California.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: It was a Ponzi scheme using the savings alone sort
Speaker 1: of trope from nineteen eighty seven with the savings alone
Speaker 1: crisis with.
Speaker 2: The bonds right, the bond markets right, yeap, which is
Speaker 2: which is why we later see a character of Michael
Speaker 2: Milliken who did time about ten years for the He
Speaker 2: was the king of junk Bones.
Speaker 1: Right, so this movie is chocked full of references from
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 4: And what about it is.
Speaker 1: That it's just like you, if you weren't watching Murphy
Speaker 1: Brown back then you still wouldn't get it.
Speaker 4: But like that was.
Speaker 1: Basically the whole TV show of Murphy Brown was just
Speaker 1: making constant references to what was going on in the
Speaker 1: world at the time and then trying to make jokes
Speaker 1: out of it. It was really awkward and kind of bad,
Speaker 1: but if you go back and watch that show, you
Speaker 1: can see that they were trying to ape that style
Speaker 1: of just making these constant references to current events.
Speaker 2: Well, and I also like on that, and I'd like
Speaker 2: to point out this was written and this is a
Speaker 2: full blow in Hollywood production. Whether or not it was
Speaker 2: released to the theater, that's probably someone in Hollywood made
Speaker 2: the right decision and said, well, the right decision should
Speaker 2: have been burned. But clearly, again this was a propaganda
Speaker 2: piece with I'm assuming numerous intentions. Again, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: assuming the writer and or Bill Maher's beef with each
Speaker 2: one of these characters that Bill Maher's running into throughout
Speaker 2: the film. I'm assuming that this is their hit piece
Speaker 2: against these characters, right, Like, why are you including the
Speaker 2: mayor in this story? Why do you include Ron Reagan
Speaker 2: and Gerald Dean Ferraro in the next scene? Right, So,
Speaker 2: these things I think are all very telling to me
Speaker 2: as far as what the you know, some sort of
Speaker 2: hit piece by the writer end or Bill Maher. Now,
Speaker 2: the writer was this fellow who J. F. Lawton, but
Speaker 2: he wrote he wrote this film under the name JD. Athens. Now,
Speaker 2: and the first thing that this was sent to me,
Speaker 2: you know, don't remember exactly when, a long long time
Speaker 2: ago while back, but somebody has sent to me because
Speaker 2: here in the Wikipedia page, the source of all, you know,
Speaker 2: all information on the interwebs, the character here is listed
Speaker 2: as Dvance. I think this is why this was initially
Speaker 2: sent to me at one point in time. However, in
Speaker 2: the film of you all noticed it's it's Vince Vince's pizza, right.
Speaker 2: So what's interesting though, is it seems that the last
Speaker 2: time this Wikipedia page was updated was twenty fifteen, right,
Speaker 2: and it just it just seems like an odd uh,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe even a joke from the universe. Who knows,
Speaker 2: But you got jd right, you got Dvance and then
Speaker 2: you got Trump, and you're and you're dealing with circumstances
Speaker 2: in this film, politically speaking, are still relevant today concerning
Speaker 2: the topic of Trump and other folks such as Jeffrey
Speaker 2: EPs is another connecting principle here.
Speaker 1: I think what could be happening is the magical principle
Speaker 1: that if it's stupid enough, it's gonna play over and
Speaker 1: over again.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's very possible. That's very possible. But the writer
Speaker 2: of that film wrote films such as Pretty Woman and
Speaker 2: under Siege, with the classic film with the Steven Sagall
Speaker 2: possibly Gary Busey's greatest film. I mean, that's it's up
Speaker 2: for negotiations, but it's possibly the best film ever.
Speaker 1: Absolutely Now, Gary Busey in that one was semi coherent, that.
Speaker 2: Wast today the h and then of course Tommy the
Speaker 2: Jones and and speaking of all this, tom Foolery was
Speaker 2: shady spooks and uh these bond markets. Right, one of
Speaker 2: the guys in that film, uh was uh, you know
Speaker 2: in that category. I can't think of his name right now.
Speaker 2: He's ah, I'll look it up. Here while I'm thinking
Speaker 2: of it. But yeah, the I don't know, it's odd
Speaker 2: to me again, see you go, you'll watch the film
Speaker 2: like you probably thought like a you know, a very
Speaker 2: untalented writer could have written that film, right, somebody who
Speaker 2: had no talent in writing films such as Pretty Woman
Speaker 2: or under Siege. You know, films that have character, the
Speaker 2: character backstories, they build characters, you know they have they
Speaker 2: have various narratives and plot lines that coincide one another,
Speaker 2: seemingly integrated throughout the film, especially with a film like Undersiege.
Speaker 2: I've never seen Pretty Woman, so I really can't speak
Speaker 2: to that. I just I recall it winning awards and whatnot.
Speaker 2: And you know, watching this film, really what happened, you know,
Speaker 2: because obviously this is even I think this was after
Speaker 2: a Pretty Woman.
Speaker 4: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: So to me, it seemed like it was a child
Speaker 1: that was trying to write like a kid will say
Speaker 1: this is this is funny because it's a funny word,
Speaker 1: and that's that's what is going to make people laugh,
Speaker 1: as funny words make people laugh. And so you know,
Speaker 1: they kept repeating fifteen twenty three, hoping that it's an
Speaker 1: obscure enough number that it'll make somebody laugh.
Speaker 2: But yeah, never did I think that. You think that
Speaker 2: was a joke gone wrong?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a lot of jokes gone wrong like this.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of jokes that did not hit in
Speaker 2: this film, know when.
Speaker 1: They wanted you to laugh, But it's like okay, Like
Speaker 1: how they introduced Ronald Reagan and Geraldine Ferraro was the
Speaker 1: woman that was being held hostage.
Speaker 4: By these mobsters or whatever.
Speaker 1: She killed all the mobsters, like she picked up forty seven,
Speaker 1: murdered all of them for no specific reason. They were
Speaker 1: out of commission, and she just it seemed like she
Speaker 1: wanted to get rid of the witnesses, right.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I think that occurred to Bill maher to act like
Speaker 1: he thought that she was trying to get rid of
Speaker 1: the witnesses, but then immediately just forgot and then carried
Speaker 1: on in dialogue. That had nothing to do with the
Speaker 1: fact that maybe she's, you know, at the root of
Speaker 1: all of this garbage. But after that scene where she
Speaker 1: brutally murders all these people, she says, they go back
Speaker 1: to her place, and she says, don't go in that room,
Speaker 1: and then immediately he goes in the room because he's
Speaker 1: looking for the money, and there's Geraldine Ferraro and.
Speaker 2: In bending right, yeah, and they were opposing Folks who
Speaker 2: don't know who Geraldine Ferraro is. Pat yourself on the back.
Speaker 2: You should not know who that person is. But she
Speaker 2: was a vice presidential candidate on the Democratic ticket against
Speaker 2: Reagan in eighty four. So them sleeping together is Bill Maher,
Speaker 2: I think saying like you're all one same party, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It could be that, or it could be a fun
Speaker 1: name to say, Geraldine Ferraro, Geraldine Ferra.
Speaker 2: It is kind of a fun name to say, isn't
Speaker 2: that right?
Speaker 4: But there's the comedy, right is that funny name?
Speaker 1: And Ronald Reagan, Well that's funny because everybody makes fun
Speaker 1: of Ronald Reagan in the eighties and nineties. He's the
Speaker 1: laugh line, you know. But instead, what it did do
Speaker 1: is make people wonder about are they really trying to
Speaker 1: send us messages here? Which I think it's so bad.
Speaker 2: I think the I think the whole movie's deep, like
Speaker 2: there's you know again, this is a political hit piece
Speaker 2: has probably got some other meetings. Again again, just a
Speaker 2: mere fact that that Donald Trump is the overlord and
Speaker 2: all of this this criminal enterprise, you know, back in
Speaker 2: nineteen nineteen ninety one film that you know, it makes
Speaker 2: me wonder, like what does this beat between Bill Mahert
Speaker 2: and Donald Trump and or you know who Bill Maher's
Speaker 2: associated with. So again, the writer of that film wrote
Speaker 2: under Stage with Steven Seagall and you know, again Gary
Speaker 2: Busey's greatest acting effort possibly Robert Booth Nichols. He's connected
Speaker 2: to the Octopus conspiracy with Danny Castelaro. He's one of
Speaker 2: these spooky kind of financial spooky guys. You know, he's
Speaker 2: out there, you know, finan doing the the moving and
Speaker 2: the shaking, you know, the financier actions behind some spook operations.
Speaker 2: So you know, at the end of the day, like
Speaker 2: I think that's what's going on with some of the
Speaker 2: characters that that Mars attacking in this film with the
Speaker 2: next guy, Michael Milliken. So after after Joe, well, well
Speaker 2: before we get past before we get past that, I
Speaker 2: like to point out this one thing I noticed throughout
Speaker 2: throughout the film, and I don't know either one of
Speaker 2: you all noticed the same thing here, But after that
Speaker 2: first scene where the woman that was being held, Hawses
Speaker 2: picked up the AK forty seven and marks everybody. Bill
Speaker 2: marsh proceeds to just beat her senseless, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think when they go back to the plane, I
Speaker 5: think he just gets aggravated and so slapping the ship
Speaker 5: out of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was really good. He's smacking her around. And
Speaker 2: that seems to be an ongoing trope throughout the film
Speaker 2: is violence against women. So only the women are getting
Speaker 2: beat up, like really bad like her, and or murdered
Speaker 2: because he later dies. But you know it's the Jeraldy
Speaker 2: Ferraro gets beat up real bad or not Jody Ferraro,
Speaker 2: dan Quail's wife gets gets beat gets beat senseless. I
Speaker 2: mean that scene was aggressive. Let's be honest. That scene
Speaker 2: was really got uncomfortable at the time, Like that's the
Speaker 2: level they took it to with with with That's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Either Bill marrishrm to make a point there
Speaker 2: or her he really likes to beat women.
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta keep going back. It seems like
Speaker 1: a joke that just doesn't hit. It's like maybe beating
Speaker 1: up women was funnier back then.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: She does fight back, that is the one thing. It's
Speaker 5: not like she's just sitting there. She is beating his
Speaker 5: ass back too. That's the whole thing that I I mean,
Speaker 5: I think it was just it was it was almost
Speaker 5: like trauma type.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, type styles and stuff.
Speaker 5: It's just you when you see people who are political
Speaker 5: that have, you know, certain views, it's just funny to
Speaker 5: see them act certain ways, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Like if that was if that was somebody else, I
Speaker 5: probably would be still thinking that it was just silly,
Speaker 5: fucking childish humor.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, right, Yeah, I mean, uh,
Speaker 2: the what was what you said earlier Nick before we
Speaker 2: started the show, is or maybe it was headless who
Speaker 2: thought it was gonna be a good idea to make
Speaker 2: this guy in action store. Yo.
Speaker 5: One thing I did say, though, I was rather impressed.
Speaker 5: I do think it's him, and I'm not trying to
Speaker 5: give the guy credit, but there's a time where someone
Speaker 5: does a cartwheel and I'm pretty sure he actually does
Speaker 5: it himself.
Speaker 2: So he does his own stunts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he looks like he does his own stunts and
Speaker 5: his own dancing.
Speaker 2: That I agree with the dancing. That scene. That scene
Speaker 2: was awkward as well.
Speaker 5: Ye Oh, he grabs his dick and pulls himself forward.
Speaker 2: Three times. I was like, yo, what, Yeah, are there
Speaker 2: going for humor there? I guess that maybe that was
Speaker 2: funny nineteen ninety one, but it doesn't play It didn't.
Speaker 2: It didn't play well today, right, it didn't stay in
Speaker 2: the test of time.
Speaker 1: You really can't tell that. That's the point. It does
Speaker 1: have this kind of tim and Eric type low quality low.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I mean back then, was Michael Jackson so
Speaker 5: grabbing his dick? Maybe that's why I was like, the
Speaker 5: fuck noes?
Speaker 2: Probably right, Yeah, I mean it's certainly possible that was
Speaker 2: probably still a thing back in ninety one. I don't
Speaker 2: I'm sure it was pretty prevalent still. Yeah, that was
Speaker 2: kind of the height of the Michael Jackson era. The Yeah,
Speaker 2: so it just seems to me that there's there's some
Speaker 2: sort of message being sent there. I even maybe if
Speaker 2: it was even some humor there. I mean, you just
Speaker 2: don't see that kind of beating the women in films,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's just not a very
Speaker 2: common sight.
Speaker 1: Well, do you have any clips that you have cued
Speaker 1: up that we can show?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you did you ever see the movie I spitch,
Speaker 5: I spit on your grave?
Speaker 2: I do, I've seen that that's.
Speaker 5: In the seventies. I'd say there was some beating of
Speaker 5: women in that movie. Yeah, they made a bit piss
Speaker 5: It's a lot worse.
Speaker 4: They did.
Speaker 1: They made it a lot tamer though that.
Speaker 5: I put that on and I was like, Yo, this
Speaker 5: came out in the seventies. I was like, if they
Speaker 5: released this now, I think they'd be like, Yo, that
Speaker 5: movie is fucked.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of seventies movies like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the the exploitation film film era, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: the Uh so, will I pull up a clip here? Then?
Speaker 2: So after after Reagan and for Ferraro, they try to
Speaker 2: kill Bill maher, right, but he escapes, right, and then
Speaker 2: that's when that's when he that's when he runs. You know,
Speaker 2: he goes right back to the pizza shop. He's got
Speaker 2: to go deliver more pizzas, right, right, and then that's
Speaker 2: when he runs into uh Michael Millikan. I got that
Speaker 2: clipped up right here, Holding on one second, police and
Speaker 2: Michael Millican, are you you fellas familiar with some of
Speaker 2: that backstory?
Speaker 5: Sounds like Pullican.
Speaker 2: He was a Wall Street fella. He he kind of
Speaker 2: invented this, uh this, well, he was he was an
Speaker 2: executive in a major Wall Street firm that that was
Speaker 2: he ended up running into the ground in nineteen ninety
Speaker 2: when the scandal. When the scandal fell out, he was
Speaker 2: basically running a Ponzi scheme kind of deal with these
Speaker 2: uh these quote unquote junk bonds, right, so these high yield,
Speaker 2: hot high interest kind of bond type deals and he
Speaker 2: was selling and broke into that freeze up. Yeah you
Speaker 2: get now, So, yeah, he's broken these deals. He gets
Speaker 2: busted in nineteen ninety for all this stuff, the whole
Speaker 2: for this legendary Wall Street firm has to go bankrupt,
Speaker 2: right so he I mean, whether or what connections he
Speaker 2: had back to Donald Trump back then, I'm not exactly clear.
Speaker 2: I know in the film they claimed that Donald Trump
Speaker 2: bailed him out, bailed Millican out, don't. I don't know
Speaker 2: how that's possible, because you know, they also included the
Speaker 2: film how Donald Trump is at war with the Federal
Speaker 2: Reserve because he was this is at a time when
Speaker 2: he was at the height of his beef with the
Speaker 2: Federal Reserve, who would shortly thereafter this film cut him
Speaker 2: off financially speaking, and he uh, that's why he does
Speaker 2: all his banking over in Germany ever since, because the
Speaker 2: American banks would not give him any more credit or
Speaker 2: anything else like that, they wouldn't do any business with him.
Speaker 2: But these and these kinds of things, I didn't notice
Speaker 2: that those were embedded in the dialogue between mar and
Speaker 2: Trump later. But one thing that's that's incorporated wall is
Speaker 2: this relationship with Trump and Millican. Now I'm not familiar
Speaker 2: with it. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, because they
Speaker 2: certainly have a relationship. After Millican gets out of prison.
Speaker 2: So Milican goes to prison and I think nineteen ninety
Speaker 2: does ten years, he gets out and he's doing he's
Speaker 2: playing he's playing tennis with with little DJT down there.
Speaker 2: It's a Marlago got a newspaper article somewhere.
Speaker 1: The Milican Institute is a lot like WEF for a
Speaker 1: lot of different industries, and so he puts on this
Speaker 1: Milkan Institute I guess conference like every couple of years.
Speaker 1: He's got a finance for him in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: so this guy runs the entire bond market into the ground.
Speaker 1: And now he comes back and he's been financed to
Speaker 1: have this, you know, WEF style conference every year. So
Speaker 1: he's he's definitely a big player. But at the same
Speaker 1: it's like, why would anybody trust this guy? I remember
Speaker 1: the junk bond thing. I mean, why why are they
Speaker 1: going to his financial Institute's all he's gonna do is
Speaker 1: teach you how to make Ponzi schemes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm confused by that as well. I don't know
Speaker 2: how the man's worth six billion dollars today, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. He defrauded all these people. But again
Speaker 2: it so it's these weird circumstances I think surrounding these
Speaker 2: kind of Ponzi schemes. I have a lot of questions about.
Speaker 2: And it surrounds Jeffrey Epstein as well, because he ran
Speaker 2: his own Ponzi scheme that he didn't get held accountab before.
Speaker 2: Now Michael Millican, I guess kind of got held accountable
Speaker 2: for his But again, at the same time, like how's
Speaker 2: he got all this money today? But you can see
Speaker 2: here this is a Trump and some tennis pro beat
Speaker 2: disgraced financier Michael Milkin and some other tennis pro at
Speaker 2: a Trump golf tournament or Trump tennis tournament marl Ago.
Speaker 2: It's a pro pro am tournament. The Trump posted every
Speaker 2: year and then this was the fourth year that he
Speaker 2: did it, and he finally won his own tournament. So
Speaker 2: fifty three year old Donald Trump and at the time
Speaker 2: is uh, he just got his gaalpal back. My Milannia
Speaker 2: and os or nows whatever her sprounced his now wife obviously.
Speaker 2: But you know, so this is going back a bit.
Speaker 2: I believe this was two thousand, two thousands, so shortly
Speaker 2: after Millican got out of prison.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: This is the Sun sentinl Sentinel, YEP, February two thousand,
Speaker 2: So you know, there's obviously some deeper, longer standing connections
Speaker 2: between those two Millican and Trump. Whether or not the
Speaker 2: movie was correct in their dialogue of saying that that
Speaker 2: Trump bailed him out, I'm not sure he bailed him
Speaker 2: out of because he didn't. You know, he didn't. Milican
Speaker 2: didn't get bailed out. And that movie was the ninety
Speaker 2: one and there's any bailout. It seemed like it could have been,
Speaker 2: you know, later, right when the dude got out of prison,
Speaker 2: you know, after the film was made. So that part's
Speaker 2: kind of confusing to me. But what is interesting is, uh,
Speaker 2: Milican's associated there, the one that didn't go to prison
Speaker 2: for that scandal. Right was very closely associated with Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1: Yep, this is the time for it. I mean, when
Speaker 1: you're talking about the height of Jeffrey Epstein's power, it's
Speaker 1: like ninety ninety one through ninety ninety nine, that was
Speaker 1: all his decade. You know.
Speaker 2: Oh well, no, even you're you're spot on with the nineties.
Speaker 2: But it went before that. So Epstein really made his name.
Speaker 2: And I believe it was nineteen eighty five and they
Speaker 2: got maybe it was eighty nine and we look it up.
Speaker 2: So Epstein was running a at the time was the
Speaker 2: largest Ponzi scheme in Wall Street history. You gotta busted
Speaker 2: for right, him and his associates, Steve Hoffenberg. Hoffenberg did
Speaker 2: nearly twenty years. He just got out a few years
Speaker 2: ago and died a couple of years after he got out.
Speaker 2: So they were running a debt you know, kind of
Speaker 2: debt collection agencies. They buy up debt and they go
Speaker 2: collect it and stuff. And it was called Tower Financial.
Speaker 2: And Steve Hoffenberger went to prison for you know, like
Speaker 2: I said, a very long time, Jeffrey Epstein and Hoffenberger
Speaker 2: paid restitution. Jeffrey Epstein, no prison, no restitution, And they
Speaker 2: were partners in the in the in the venture, yeah,
Speaker 2: Towers Financial Corporation. I believe he did eighteen. He did
Speaker 2: eighteen years from so he collapsed in nineteen ninety three. Actually, okay,
Speaker 2: so shortly after this time I was thinking was just
Speaker 2: before the nineties. It was ninety three. So ninety five
Speaker 2: he played guilty. Four hundred and seventy five million dollars
Speaker 2: twenty years prison. He did. He did eighteen plus a
Speaker 2: million dollar fine and four hundred sixty three million dollars restitution.
Speaker 2: So he got all of the restitution and all the
Speaker 2: and all the crime for that, right. Epstein didn't get anything.
Speaker 2: And in that same note, you have Milken's uh buddy
Speaker 2: Leon Black there right, this is this was his associate
Speaker 2: in that in that scandal there at Drexel Burnham Lambert.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: This uh again very uh, very well respected Wall Street
Speaker 2: firm that they they ran into the ground in this scandal.
Speaker 2: Milicin goes to prison. Leon Black does not. Leon Black.
Speaker 2: As as you can see here, woman ends lawsuit claiming
Speaker 2: Leon Black raped her in Epstein's man Manhattan residence. Leon
Speaker 2: Black greed to pay sixty two and a half million
Speaker 2: dollars to sell Epstein related to you know, you know rapes,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. This dude's all over the
Speaker 2: This has been paying out like a lot of money
Speaker 2: for you know Epstein stuff, right. He's even getting investigated
Speaker 2: by the SEC here investigation of the Epstein Black relationship,
Speaker 2: in any relationship between Epstein and Apollo Global Management. So
Speaker 2: when when Milicine went to prison, his buddy, his buddy
Speaker 2: again walked Leon Black and he started he started a different,
Speaker 2: you know, fond er management thing. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's a Ponzi scheme, but you know, obviously he's not
Speaker 2: doing he's not doing great things in life. It seems
Speaker 2: he's doing some pretty nefarious shit going around rape and stuff,
Speaker 2: raping young young kids with Epstein there for a number
Speaker 2: of years and again paying restitution you know, to the
Speaker 2: tens of millions of dollars here in scenes in recent years.
Speaker 2: Why this dude isn't under more scrutiny and we're still
Speaker 2: walking everyone's screaming about an Epstein list. That's probably a
Speaker 2: different story altogether, But what I'm saying is, in nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety one, in a film about pizza, we have characters
Speaker 2: that are deeply related to the Epstein saga such as
Speaker 2: Michael Milliken, Donald Trump right through, you know, through these
Speaker 2: kind of these kind of connections. Absolutely, yeah, I'm surprised,
Speaker 2: aren't on. No, Coon didn't make an appearance in this film.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's too fun of it, right, he was a big,
Speaker 2: big producer at the time.
Speaker 1: I hope everybody in the audience realizes that the Hollywood
Speaker 1: movie industry has been the oldest form of money laundering
Speaker 1: since basically forever.
Speaker 5: I mean, like I did, what about that with this movie?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it went back to the theater too. They've been
Speaker 1: using the Mob has been using entertainment purposes as money
Speaker 1: laundering forever. So this movie does represent, you know, a
Speaker 1: big pit of money that they just decided to throw
Speaker 1: all this money into and just light it on fire.
Speaker 1: Because I doubt it came out of the out of
Speaker 1: the theaters or got any sort of reference at all,
Speaker 1: but you could tell that it had to out of
Speaker 1: a budget. So I think there's a lot of Mob
Speaker 1: and underworld type connections around.
Speaker 2: Sure, now I agree with you for sure. And uh
Speaker 2: what So the clip I'm bringing up is actually him
Speaker 2: and Bob Woodward because Woodward serves as this he calls
Speaker 2: himself deep Thrope, right right, speaking of the Mob, right,
Speaker 2: you were just some about mob and film productions and
Speaker 2: money laundering. Right, Well, the Mob financed the first pornographic film,
Speaker 2: Deep Throat, amongst other films in that era, right in
Speaker 2: the early seventies, and that was premiered at a at
Speaker 2: a theater there and in West Hollywood, the Pussycat Theater,
Speaker 2: which was a process owned an operator, you know, theater
Speaker 2: there processed church. So you have, you know, some weird
Speaker 2: cult stuff and uh, you know, I'm sensibly human trafficking.
Speaker 2: You know, there's certainly drug trafficking surrounding those cults, you know,
Speaker 2: and revolving around you know, the financial aspects and production
Speaker 2: of these films. You know, it's it's a strange, strange bedfellows.
Speaker 2: But I think that's when he seems strange. I think
Speaker 2: it's very common in you know, mongst Hollywood. So you
Speaker 2: know these Uh yeah, it makes me, it makes me think, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, what, what was the purpose of being financing
Speaker 2: this film, right, or even again even making this film.
Speaker 2: This movie is so obscure it makes no it makes
Speaker 2: no logical sense to me that it even exists. I mean, uh,
Speaker 2: you got.
Speaker 1: That clip pulled up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my my froze.
Speaker 1: No, I don't see it.
Speaker 2: I think I'm pros up. There we go. So this
Speaker 2: is bigger than you think. You a little bit too
Speaker 2: far here one one second?
Speaker 4: What now I can't talk here and follow me?
Speaker 2: I'm too close.
Speaker 4: I I'm not following you.
Speaker 1: Who are you?
Speaker 4: I just think it would be personal deep.
Speaker 2: So I mean and again is Bob Woodward's the guy
Speaker 2: who met with Deep Throw for the whole Watergate thing.
Speaker 2: And also, strange enough, Woodward has been one of the
Speaker 2: most ardent critics of Donald Trump and making all sorts
Speaker 2: of I think he's even won prizes over his books
Speaker 2: or whatnot that he's written here in the in the
Speaker 2: Trump Ara. So another connection still from nineteen ninety one
Speaker 2: with these same characters right in the film to our
Speaker 2: modern era of politics, right with Bob Woodward here. So
Speaker 2: you got Bob Woodward with the Trump tapes, and you know,
Speaker 2: he's always all over the media and whatnot in recent years.
Speaker 2: You know, again, folks can have I'm I'm all about criticizing,
Speaker 2: especially politicians with legitimate criticism, but this is one of
Speaker 2: these guys that seems that, you know, the Russia Gate
Speaker 2: kind of narratives, right, the stuff that was clearly bought
Speaker 2: and paid for kind of propaganda from the Clinton campaign,
Speaker 2: kind of deals. These guys seem to be touting those
Speaker 2: lines and perpetrating at the guy I was referencing before,
Speaker 2: Michael is a cough right, being another guy in the
Speaker 2: media doing those same things.
Speaker 1: Well, I think when it comes to Bob Woodward, what
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand is that he was
Speaker 1: naval intelligence.
Speaker 2: There you go, so.
Speaker 1: All of his stories were basically planted. You've got kind
Speaker 1: of a secret war going on between the CIA and
Speaker 1: UH naval intelligence that's been going on since the CIA
Speaker 1: came into existence, and so Bob Woodward is sort of
Speaker 1: there to give the black guy to the CIA, and
Speaker 1: then they go back and forth at each other. But
Speaker 1: it's it's really stupid. I mean, the whole few intelligence
Speaker 1: and I mean.
Speaker 2: No, you're right, it's certainly going on for sure. And
Speaker 2: I'll highlight this count from Brian McKinney. Bomer's company is
Speaker 2: called boy Love Productions, and I'll be ginting to that
Speaker 2: point here shortly that is a kid love a boy
Speaker 2: Love Uh, you're right, as kid Love Production. Did you
Speaker 2: write kid love production is my mistake. Yet it might
Speaker 2: be No, it just gets kid love. You're right, the yes,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think you know when we're serves
Speaker 2: a role. But what he's doing in this film, I
Speaker 2: have no idea what he's playing this uh, this character
Speaker 2: here for uh for Bill Maher's mystery. Right, I'll play
Speaker 2: a little bit more of this clip because he uh,
Speaker 2: he kind of goes into this, you know, the overarching conspiracy.
Speaker 2: I guess right deep.
Speaker 1: Oh that.
Speaker 2: Okay, I just want to pause it again. Isn't it
Speaker 2: weird to both the Deep Throat and the porno and
Speaker 2: the scandal came out at the same time, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 1: I think that was why he did it, is because
Speaker 1: that was the talk of the town, and so he
Speaker 1: was making a reference to that movie and it was
Speaker 1: I mean, was he okay, yeah, it was making a
Speaker 1: reference to that movie because I think that was what
Speaker 1: was getting the headlines and so but still at the
Speaker 1: same time, you do have this kind of connotation of
Speaker 1: maybe being like secret or underhanded with the whole deep
Speaker 1: ideas like deep intelligence or whatever. But deep Throat, he
Speaker 1: was definitely talking about the other type.
Speaker 2: What top flower. I can't hear you. You're in over
Speaker 2: your head, Almo, this is bigger than you think.
Speaker 1: Who are you?
Speaker 4: You don't recognize me?
Speaker 1: I'm famous?
Speaker 4: Come on?
Speaker 7: Come on?
Speaker 1: Did you see Wired? All the President's ben.
Speaker 2: What's wrong with that?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 2: It wasn't my idea to use me as a character
Speaker 2: and Wired it didn't like work, but it wasn't daring
Speaker 2: artistic decision. So I feel like that's like whatever this
Speaker 2: Wired movie is, like, this is a hit piece of
Speaker 2: between within within Hollywood, write some sort of internal beef
Speaker 2: where they're talking shit about you know, the the other film.
Speaker 4: Right, other obscure movies right there.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah movie. No one's gonna get that reference, right
Speaker 2: unless you have to look it up.
Speaker 4: And I was right, well, I think that's what they're
Speaker 4: making fun of.
Speaker 1: They're making fun of the fact that it was so
Speaker 1: obscure that nobody could possibly think that he's famous from
Speaker 1: that role.
Speaker 2: Right right? You're a great sellout?
Speaker 1: What you sold out?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 2: You're my hero with the seventies.
Speaker 5: You run down the prist in the United States, straight
Speaker 5: to court, the history.
Speaker 2: What do you do?
Speaker 1: You go with a quick block like everything.
Speaker 2: So I just want to play that line with this
Speaker 2: woodword piece, because that obviously is implying what I what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, I think got substantiates what I'm saying, is
Speaker 2: each one of these character that Mayor's encountering, right, he's he's,
Speaker 2: he's you know, he's telling them to their face that
Speaker 2: whatever beef he has with him, right right? You know,
Speaker 2: this is the bps with Woodward. He used to be
Speaker 2: my hero because you know, X, Y and Z. But
Speaker 2: so all that stuff's nonsense, you know, the whole again,
Speaker 2: all spooky stuff surrounding that and Woodward. But you know
Speaker 2: the fact that Woodward's around the day, it makes me
Speaker 2: wonder what is involved in the day is that O
Speaker 2: and I business still, you know, because Trump surrounds himself
Speaker 2: with O and I. Maybe he's kind of like the
Speaker 2: uh you know, the Trump uh anti propaganda guy, right,
Speaker 2: you know, the guy that the controlled opposition type of
Speaker 2: character for within the O and I circle. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just think it's interesting that, you know, I went
Speaker 2: seemingly the CIA took out Nixon and you have an
Speaker 2: O n I guy working with him. So I think
Speaker 2: at some point in time, folks jump teams, you know,
Speaker 2: and whatnot, because at the end of the day. The
Speaker 2: the folks that comprise this CIA, especially back at that era,
Speaker 2: was Air Force intelligence and Navy intelligence guys a lot
Speaker 2: a lot of times.
Speaker 4: And Mormons.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, overwhelmingly Mormons.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's the thing this whole movie. He
Speaker 1: is a bunch of surface level socialism. Like it's all
Speaker 1: these Democrat platforms that you know, go back to the
Speaker 1: sixties and all the rage they felt back then, and
Speaker 1: it's it's all sort of translated into this movie as
Speaker 1: being sort of like the fall from grace from the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party.
Speaker 2: No, there's definitely a lot of that here, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: And I often wonder where the line is between you know,
Speaker 2: somebody like Bill Maher of Kid Love Productions in a
Speaker 2: film called The Pizza Man, you know, and you know
Speaker 2: again who's calling the shots here, right? I mean he
Speaker 2: he seems like he may be a player in some
Speaker 2: sort of network in that kind of regard, right, Like
Speaker 2: you know, the writer's one thing, and again he's scrite enough,
Speaker 2: he's from Riverside County. I don't know what his connections
Speaker 2: are to scientology, but it's odd that the year before
Speaker 2: this film, in nineteen ninety, he writes Pretty Woman, which
Speaker 2: at the time Richard Year was associated with Scientology. If
Speaker 2: not a scientologist, he's at least done courses, right, Like,
Speaker 2: that's at least is confirmed now. I actually I think
Speaker 2: he was far more better than the Scientology network at
Speaker 2: the time. A pretty woman, because if you recall shortly
Speaker 2: thereafter and I don't know handless of that, this is
Speaker 2: something you may recall. I know you're a few years younger
Speaker 2: than myself and Nick, but and but you know, Nick
Speaker 2: may recall this. At least this is something that was
Speaker 2: rolling around my parts in the Midwest and Ohio there
Speaker 2: in the early nineties. Richard Gear used to jam Gerbils
Speaker 2: up as butt. This is way before the interwebs, right,
Speaker 2: some there was some network of information that that that
Speaker 2: rumor spread. So once I joined the military, I realized
Speaker 2: folks on the West coast had heard that story, and
Speaker 2: folks on the East coast that heard that story. I'm
Speaker 2: wait a second, it's like nineteen ninety three, who the
Speaker 2: hell's you know transmitting these these narratives all around the
Speaker 2: US could be the cult root, right, it.
Speaker 1: Was too fucking bizarre not to talk about.
Speaker 2: Like everybody was talking about That's what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 2: it's uh at that time, I specifically remember being a child,
Speaker 2: like you know, the young teenager. I'm what gerbils in here?
Speaker 2: What is going on in life? This dude, this dude's
Speaker 2: out of control? You know what I mean. But you know,
Speaker 2: whether or not it happened or not, it's something that
Speaker 2: scientology would do to the former remember believing like that,
Speaker 2: like oh, well, you know what I mean, Like I know,
Speaker 2: they divulger secrets. I'm not saying he had to have
Speaker 2: done that. They could just be like, oh, we'll just
Speaker 2: pretend like he told us that. We'll just tell everybody.
Speaker 4: That that's a hell of a network.
Speaker 2: Right, But I mean, right, Nick, did I mean did
Speaker 2: you recall here and that's the like early novels.
Speaker 5: Yeah, A bunch of people in that they remember that. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I remember that back in the day.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like, that's it was an impressive
Speaker 2: it was. It was an impressive thing to uh, you
Speaker 2: know totally.
Speaker 5: It seemed to go along with him becoming famous more famous.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, right after right after Pretty Woman, Right
Speaker 2: after Pretty Woman.
Speaker 5: When everybody knew who he was, that's when he all
Speaker 5: of a sudden he had jebbles in his eyes. You
Speaker 5: didn't hear the story until.
Speaker 2: Then, right, right, Well, I mean he's associated with some
Speaker 2: interesting projects in the eighties, which which caused me to
Speaker 2: also believe he's you know, has some scientology or even
Speaker 2: dare I say process connections when he stars in films
Speaker 2: such as The Cotton Club, right which The Cotton Club
Speaker 2: was the culmination of the project between Coke Came Bob
Speaker 2: Evans and Roy Raiding. The Son is the essentially the
Speaker 2: East Coast process in West Coast Coast process, guys, as
Speaker 2: it started by Moretary in his Ultimate Evil book, which
Speaker 2: you know makes some great points and making that argument.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know the star of that film would
Speaker 2: be would ultimately be Richard gear So you know he's
Speaker 2: he had some weird projects in the eighties. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it was seemingly after Pretty Woman he was, you know,
Speaker 2: suddenly Gerbils were flying out of his ass.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine being Richard Gere walking into a room
Speaker 1: full of people and then thinking to yourself, how many
Speaker 1: of these people are thinking about Gerbils in my ass? Right?
Speaker 5: Especially like if he's never done it in that story
Speaker 5: goes around, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, man, Gerbils story was even the movie.
Speaker 5: It would screwed up. What if like a woman comes
Speaker 5: up to you and like kind of makes it known
Speaker 5: that she's interested in you. It's like, damn, like does
Speaker 5: she she into that type of ship?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, you're like, fuck, do I gotta worry about
Speaker 5: drubbles being brought up in the bedroom at some point
Speaker 5: because she takes this real.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I don't know this writer, the writer of
Speaker 2: this film's background, but you know, again he's from Riverside
Speaker 2: and that he did right pretty woman. So it makes
Speaker 2: me wonder scientology.
Speaker 1: Perhaps I think I'm gonna send Richard gear a hamster wheel.
Speaker 2: There you go. Maybe maybe that's why I moved out
Speaker 2: of the U. I think he left America. Maybe that's
Speaker 2: why he left America because too many people knew you
Speaker 2: got everybody went to. People were just send him hamster
Speaker 2: wheels and fucking making Gerbil jokes to him. You know,
Speaker 2: He's like, I gotta go to I gotta get the
Speaker 2: fuck out of here bad.
Speaker 4: Enough I die that dude. I buy that.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, that's funny. The yeah, the I don't know,
Speaker 2: just we'll say that went forward, seeing like he's got
Speaker 2: a real like whoever whoever wrote it was mar that
Speaker 2: you know wrote the words or impacted the words in
Speaker 2: that scene, or was the writer himself? Like somebody had
Speaker 2: a real beef, like personal beef with Bob Woodward. So
Speaker 2: so I think we've seen a couple of beast maybe
Speaker 2: with the mayor, you know what I mean, like that
Speaker 2: that beef with with what seemed a little bit more
Speaker 2: personal than political to.
Speaker 1: Me, Michael Ducaccas too. He was talking about do you
Speaker 1: still think I'm unelectable?
Speaker 2: Michaelcaucas Is right, we left out Michael Ducacus what you
Speaker 2: know what to be honest with he was easy to
Speaker 2: forget and politically speaking, he's easy easy to forget that
Speaker 2: he was in this film.
Speaker 1: It's more obscurity.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's funny how he was like the
Speaker 5: cheapest paid person, Like what do you say he took
Speaker 5: a wild turkey and a pack of smokes of some ship,
Speaker 5: right and I don't know, some stuff like.
Speaker 2: That, right.
Speaker 1: He was the lowest rat opposition to uh Rob. Was
Speaker 1: that Robert Reagan or George Bush?
Speaker 2: No, I believe that was the same same? Was that
Speaker 2: the same?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: That was Mondale and Ferraro, wasn't it? So that would
Speaker 2: have been George Bush and uh Inducaucus.
Speaker 1: Right, But I mean like he got unseated because he
Speaker 1: was inside of uh what was it. Uh he wore
Speaker 1: like a Bundy costume and everybody made fun of him
Speaker 1: because of it. I'm gonna look it up, Caucus.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that one. Yeah, this piece, he's somewhat
Speaker 2: still relevant today and in respect to the fact that
Speaker 2: his son is is all over Republican politics and has
Speaker 2: been that. Jason Shavitz fellow, the multi level the multi
Speaker 2: level marketing uh executive from Utah, the Mormon fella who
Speaker 2: was a congressman for a couple couple of sessions, maybe
Speaker 2: three maybe six years. He's now I think he's a
Speaker 2: political commentator on Fox Now. But yeah, Shavitz is a
Speaker 2: step son. He's married to Shavitz's mother, Right, So.
Speaker 1: He looked unmanly in this picture. It wasn't a buddy costume.
Speaker 1: That was the other guy. So Dan Quayle, No, that's
Speaker 1: Michael Ducacas sitting inside of a tank and he looks
Speaker 1: totally awkward.
Speaker 4: And that's it.
Speaker 1: He looks like Tim Walls exactly Tim Wall's character.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when he when Tim Wallas tried LARPA as the
Speaker 2: military guy. Now who was in the bunny costume?
Speaker 8: Then?
Speaker 2: Was it Reagan?
Speaker 1: No, that was the guy who ran against Bush Junior.
Speaker 4: He uh, he had it.
Speaker 1: Now, it wasn't Gore. It was the other guy in
Speaker 1: two thousand and four.
Speaker 2: Oh, Tim Kaine.
Speaker 1: Wasn't Tim Kaine, No, he'd be he was.
Speaker 2: For he was the oh oh carry yeah, John Carey.
Speaker 2: So yeah, the Skull and Bones election. What was I thinking?
Speaker 1: He wore this like full body like, uh, what is
Speaker 1: it like chemical suit or whatever doing one of his
Speaker 1: you know, presidential tours or whatever, and so it looked
Speaker 1: like a Bundy costume, and everybody was commenting how he
Speaker 1: looked like he was wearing a buddy costume.
Speaker 4: It was stupid, you know. They always, yeah, they always.
Speaker 1: Come up with these stupid pictures that make it a
Speaker 1: person look bad, and then the media runs with it
Speaker 1: based off of who they want to really win, So
Speaker 1: you can't really trust what they say. What they try
Speaker 1: to do is stir up controversy that gets stuck in
Speaker 1: your head.
Speaker 2: Well, and that's funny you mentioned that because they actually
Speaker 2: discussed they hear relative to dan Quayle here in a
Speaker 2: subsequent scene. But one one comment just came to mind
Speaker 2: and totally off topic relative to the four election between
Speaker 2: Bush and Carry. Whatever happened to the don't Taste Me kid?
Speaker 2: That don't tast Me bro? Remember Carry was at the
Speaker 2: University of Florida. That student comes up to the mic
Speaker 2: and asks him about skull and Bones, and they literally
Speaker 2: dragged the dude out and like tasing them in shit,
Speaker 2: He's yelling, don't That's where the phrase don't taste Me
Speaker 2: bro comes from.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, they do.
Speaker 2: They did. They disappear that kid to some fucking island.
Speaker 2: Like why does that kind of have a podcast? So
Speaker 2: they call it don't Taste Me Bro.
Speaker 1: I've heard him on a few he was he was
Speaker 1: a guest, but yeah, like he should totally have a thing.
Speaker 1: But you know again, it's like who knows, Maybe he's
Speaker 1: a O and I you never know about this city, right.
Speaker 1: I heard Jesuit the other day talking about the assassination
Speaker 1: of JFK and it's like, what, why are the Jesuits
Speaker 1: talking about this now? I thought they were supposed to
Speaker 1: be on the inside of it.
Speaker 2: That's interesting. Yeah, And according to this comment here where
Speaker 2: you got the Gerbils story was around after American Jigglow.
Speaker 2: That's interesting. I think I think, I think a lot
Speaker 2: of these characters. I think there's a lot of actors
Speaker 2: that have a lot of these early scientology connections that
Speaker 2: don't get credit for, you know, year year would be
Speaker 2: on that list. I think Stallone would be another one.
Speaker 2: We were talking about, uh that, you know before the show,
Speaker 2: some of the Coppola family. But yeah, Copla did the
Speaker 2: Cotton Club his uh you know, his sister being Talia Shayer,
Speaker 2: Rocky's wife. But in the Rocky films, and it's always
Speaker 2: the one one of it's one of the most alarming,
Speaker 2: uh situations when I learned that that Sylvester Stalone not
Speaker 2: only directed but choreographed the film Staying Alive, the the
Speaker 2: weird uh kind of very uh overtly homosexual disco film
Speaker 2: from I believe next to the three Ready Four starring
Speaker 2: John Travolta.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, who else, Barry Gibb what what was
Speaker 1: that band called the Beg's. Beg's just rocketed them right
Speaker 1: out into the pop world, you know.
Speaker 2: Well they Yeah, I mean, I don't want to get
Speaker 2: too far off subject, but yeah, that's that that's an
Speaker 2: interesting episode of activity. But yeah, the weirdest thing to me,
Speaker 2: a semesteril in doing those doing that. Yeah, speaking of scientology,
Speaker 2: at least somebody I think is in scientology that the
Speaker 2: father from that seventies show Red Foreman. I can't think
Speaker 2: of his I can't think of the actor's name. He was.
Speaker 2: Also he also was a choreographer on the film Staying Alive.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, can you imagine that scene? Right? What a
Speaker 2: weird scene?
Speaker 4: Do you remember him from RoboCop?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, dude, he was. He was an assassiny. He's
Speaker 2: a pretty tough guy. That's what I'm saying. It's a
Speaker 2: it's a weird, uh, you know, weird juxtaposition. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: so uh, I guess I don't know Nick had a
Speaker 2: step out for a second, But we didn't.
Speaker 1: Sylvesters alone start get his start in movies doing gay porn.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if it was a guy
Speaker 2: on guy, but certainly, I mean, who else is buying
Speaker 2: the solo guy porn right in the seventies, it's obviously
Speaker 2: gay porn, right right, So it.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't be that big of a stretch to think that
Speaker 1: he's the choreographer if.
Speaker 2: He's right, the Italian stallion, Yeah, yeah again. Yes, I
Speaker 2: mean there's a lot of interesting connections in Hollywood with
Speaker 2: a lot of these characters. But that's what leads me
Speaker 2: to believe that, you know, a lot of folks in
Speaker 2: Alli would have a lot more visibility on things. Their
Speaker 2: perspective is not of the general public. So you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know what Bill Maher knows in particular. But
Speaker 2: as we've commented here before, and a lot of folks
Speaker 2: been posting here tonight, Bill Maher does did after this film.
Speaker 2: It wasn't this film Welcome back Nick? How you doing,
Speaker 2: Bud Good? He disappears that we were. I wasn't clear
Speaker 2: if you had an emergency or so that's an emergency.
Speaker 2: That's an emergency. The Bill Maher Productions, uh he after
Speaker 2: this film here Pizza Man, he's arted this and so
Speaker 2: it was nineteen ninety two he started the Kid Love Productions.
Speaker 2: This company was found by it's now called Bill Maher.
Speaker 2: He's changed it. He changed it in December of two
Speaker 2: thousand and seven. But from nineteen ninety two, so immediately
Speaker 2: following this film until two thousand and seven, the company
Speaker 2: was founded by comedian Bill Maher in nineteen ninety two,
Speaker 2: was Kid Love Productions, but adopted its current name in
Speaker 2: December of two thousand and seven. So it's not only
Speaker 2: that he made this Pizza Man film and then he
Speaker 2: was subsequent to this film, he starts this kid Love Productions.
Speaker 2: And I wonder, you know, because I know these nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety one no one was thinking that pizza had anything
Speaker 2: to do with Didlin stuff, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: It wasn't a thought anyone's mind. I think it's a
Speaker 2: lot taught on a lot of folks mind today, which
Speaker 2: again is weird to me that there's so many elements
Speaker 2: of this nineteen ninety one film they're still relevant today
Speaker 2: around the topic of diddlin stuff kids.
Speaker 1: Why are we beating around the bush here?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety one? If Bill Maher shoved Jerb up
Speaker 1: his ast.
Speaker 2: Okay, his are Richard Gears? Which one he.
Speaker 5: Was the one putting them up?
Speaker 2: Gizz right, oh ship, So you're saying that Richard Gear
Speaker 2: wanted to call the film pretty Gerbil, but they forced
Speaker 2: him to call pretty well.
Speaker 5: God damn shoot, I had to squeak, squeak.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So so the next so to get back on
Speaker 2: track here to me, this is there's so many signs
Speaker 2: this is a hit piece. There's so many signs. There's
Speaker 2: so many other underlying elements going on here, right with this,
Speaker 2: the pizza connotations, the connotations surrounding the word pizza and
Speaker 2: an esoteric meeting.
Speaker 1: Didn't they make a South Park episode all about that
Speaker 1: Gerbil traveling through Richard Gears?
Speaker 2: Did they really come on? Did they really they did?
Speaker 2: I can't, I can't, We can't watch that tonight. You
Speaker 2: gotta say, all, do you rail this? That whole story
Speaker 2: cracks me up? All do you reil this entire tale
Speaker 2: to that? But the uh so, No, I just think that,
Speaker 2: you know, there's a good argument we made. There's a
Speaker 2: lot going on here with Bill Marion, his activities and
Speaker 2: whatever he's involved with it. I'm not saying that he
Speaker 2: dedals kids, but I mean he seems to imply to
Speaker 2: himself with a production title named kid Love Productions following
Speaker 2: this film. So the next guy, Bill meets his Michael Milkin.
Speaker 2: And again this is that junk bond trader that so
Speaker 2: Trump pardons this guy a couple of years ago, right
Speaker 2: his first administration. So again he plays, he plays tennis
Speaker 2: with this guy. He pardons this guy later Again, I
Speaker 2: don't know what the relations were in nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 2: It's not clear, but the film implies they had some
Speaker 2: financial relations. I presume they probably did. Why this guy
Speaker 2: goes to jail and his partner Leon Black doesn't and
Speaker 2: then you know, does all this Epstein stuff again? I
Speaker 2: think there's a lot more to these narratives. I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to say I understand what they are, But what
Speaker 2: are your guys' thoughts as far as these things, Like,
Speaker 2: should in your mind, should a nineteen ninety one have
Speaker 2: It's obviously we can call it a comedy comedy's but
Speaker 2: should it be relevant today on these same kind of topics?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like in my mind, if
Speaker 2: if there's not something more embedded with the occult or
Speaker 2: esoteric understanding of these things in the film, with this
Speaker 2: biddling conversations in Epstein, then why would there be so
Speaker 2: much appearance of it with the characters in the film
Speaker 2: still revolving around those situations thirty four years later?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Well? I think there could be like this, this connection
Speaker 1: between Donald Trump and Michael Milkin could be a lot
Speaker 1: of the hatred. Maybe, like what if they did have
Speaker 1: a closer relationship, maybe they were friends.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I think they're I mean,
Speaker 2: I actually think there probably was some sort of closer
Speaker 2: relationship there right.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, how would you feel knowing that this
Speaker 1: guy's partner got off scott free and then your buddy
Speaker 1: is the one that ended up going to jail like
Speaker 1: that would piss you off at least, especially right out
Speaker 1: up seeing and all the rest of that ship that
Speaker 1: he's been into. So you know, there could be a
Speaker 1: real motivating factor here when it comes to Donald Trump
Speaker 1: and government.
Speaker 2: Sure, and I think the closer connection is likely this
Speaker 2: so that that firm, this is the firm that Millican's
Speaker 2: shut down Druxwell Burnham Lambert and his in his criminal
Speaker 2: activities emmently on Black. But the whole firm was founded
Speaker 2: and seems to me populated by folks who graduated the
Speaker 2: Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania, which
Speaker 2: is Trump's alma mater.
Speaker 1: That's Trump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Millican was obviously younger when there later. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 2: this is a firm populated by graduates from the Wharton
Speaker 2: School Business, so they're obviously operating within at least that
Speaker 2: looser network frame, right.
Speaker 1: Right, But that that makes sense if they're all sort
Speaker 1: of in it together and these are their sort of things,
Speaker 1: and you know, if they're being targeted by the administration,
Speaker 1: all these different Wharton graduates, that would you know, that
Speaker 1: would piss me off.
Speaker 2: Ship Yeah, so yeah, I mean again, I think there's
Speaker 2: something to be said for the for the uh this
Speaker 2: gerbile subject that Ranza like it, churbles and a half
Speaker 2: shell gurbil power. I like that one that's going now.
Speaker 2: I think it's thing. There's something to be said that
Speaker 2: some folks go to prison and some folks continue to
Speaker 2: make hundreds of millions of dollars, right, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? And then and then you have another guy
Speaker 2: like Milican who did go to prison, seemingly paid some
Speaker 2: restitution somehow sold six million dollars today and again just
Speaker 2: a few years ago got Trump to pardon them, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So again, I just think I
Speaker 2: re established as there is an on still an ongoing
Speaker 2: relationship with those two, right even even until you know
Speaker 2: recent years. Yeah, there you go, yeah, and and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, whatever whatever is going on, I think what
Speaker 2: I'm saying is I have no idea was going on there.
Speaker 2: I just think it's hilarious that this is, like, you know,
Speaker 2: these elements in the nineteen ninety one comedy are still
Speaker 2: relevant here today para politically speaking. And again, I mean, what,
Speaker 2: what's what's a hotter topic now than the Epstein Epstein
Speaker 2: client list. I mean, I have a lot of thoughts
Speaker 2: on the client list, but I'm just saying, like it
Speaker 2: is like the probably the number one topic amongst folks,
Speaker 2: you know, on the interwebsite right now, from from mainstream
Speaker 2: media reports even about it to just people talking about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that hasn't stopped, that hasn't gone away. I
Speaker 1: mean we're talking, what has it been six years now?
Speaker 2: Since how many almost five and a half August of
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we all know that Anna Paulina Luna,
Speaker 1: the one that's in charge of this commission, has now
Speaker 1: taken the official title of the world's biggest cocktas because
Speaker 1: we're supposed to get these documents as soon as truck
Speaker 1: came in, and now we have to wait until after
Speaker 1: all of these hearings. What's up with that. Aren't you
Speaker 1: just supposed to let those documents go? Aren't we supposed
Speaker 1: to see all this stuff now, it's just crazy.
Speaker 4: I mean, the people are falling again.
Speaker 2: It's funny you say that because the cocktis you realize
Speaker 2: she's a former stripper, right yeah, yeah, okay. Trump got
Speaker 2: bail out twice the nineties by Wilbur Ross Ross Shaw banker. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's that's a good comment. Yeah, he did that
Speaker 2: money was Wilbert Ross got that financing from Deutsche Bank,
Speaker 2: which is where Trumps still banks State because the Federal
Speaker 2: Reserve refuses to do business with him. And I sincerely
Speaker 2: think Trump hates the Federal Reserve and when he makes
Speaker 2: comments that he wants to shut him down, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think that he's un serious about it. I
Speaker 2: think he's very serious about it. But as far as
Speaker 2: a client list, I mean, yeah, it's it's just a
Speaker 2: it is all a very it's a big it's a circus.
Speaker 2: What that circus is about, I'm not sure. But as
Speaker 2: far as client lists go, they have we already have
Speaker 2: black books. We already know that there's numerous pilot aircraft
Speaker 2: logs that have never been released. Right, you know, we've
Speaker 2: only won one pilot's log has been released, So there's
Speaker 2: numerous other pilots, you know. So there's a lot of
Speaker 2: these things that could be considered lists. So it's a
Speaker 2: very ambiguous term. I just think it's interesting that there's
Speaker 2: so many people, you know, not again in the Trump orbit,
Speaker 2: you know, there is so many people in the Trump
Speaker 2: or but related to the Epstein saga, but also all
Speaker 2: of a sudden in the nineteen ninety one comedy film
Speaker 2: with Bill Maher being some taking some level of contention, right,
Speaker 2: some point of contention against these subjects. I'm not you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that that Donald Trump is some sort
Speaker 2: of altruistic savior person. What I am saying is Bill
Speaker 2: mart don't seem to like him, right, and whatever that's
Speaker 2: whatever that subject is, it seems to revolve around pizza
Speaker 2: and possibly Epstein related activities.
Speaker 1: Fifteen twenty three could have been the going rate for
Speaker 1: a child sex laf back then, and we're just looking
Speaker 1: at the inflation effects on the childe.
Speaker 2: I mean that's yeah, yeah, buying powers really really hitting
Speaker 2: the dumps, isn't it.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 2: I was thinking, actually fifteen twenty three could be an
Speaker 2: address or something, you know what I mean, it had
Speaker 2: like fifteen twenty three could have been a meeting internally
Speaker 2: to whatever this beef is going around this movie. These
Speaker 2: characters like they would know at fifteen twenty three, men
Speaker 2: like those sons of bitches fifteen twenty three, you know,
Speaker 2: like Seinfeld and Newman. You know he's like Newman. You know,
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, you know, because they keep dropping it
Speaker 2: so many times that you know, it's obviously got some
Speaker 2: meaning to some people, right right, because the joke.
Speaker 5: No, I didn't wonder about it if.
Speaker 1: There was if there was some subtexts there that I
Speaker 1: could grab onto. But it's all just like surface level socialism,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 4: I mean like, did you really get there?
Speaker 2: Really is?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Did you did you really get any of the
Speaker 1: dirt or any of the uh you know, detail from
Speaker 1: any of his interactions with all these political characters or
Speaker 1: was it just you know the most basic. I mean
Speaker 1: on his show, he goes pretty basic. You know, he's
Speaker 1: not looking into anything at all, Like all of his
Speaker 1: humor on Bill Maher's show just seems like surface level socialism.
Speaker 1: There's there's really no like substance to it.
Speaker 2: You know. Oh, he's a comi. He's definitely a comi. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, there's obviously political beefs in yourybody. I
Speaker 2: think there's also beefs that transcend politics and other subjects,
Speaker 2: including the personal beef you had with with Bob Woodward.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't think that Bob Woodward beef is
Speaker 2: probably I mean, who knows. It could be surrounding some
Speaker 2: sort of building stuff. Who knows. But what I'm saying
Speaker 2: is from the words he was saying in the film
Speaker 2: in that scene, like whatever that beef is with Woodward
Speaker 2: in this film, whether a game, whether it's mar or
Speaker 2: the writer, you know, it seemed personal, like that was
Speaker 2: like like he said it was his hero and like
Speaker 2: he thought he sold out and all this other stuff, right, like,
Speaker 2: you know, that seems seemed very seemed to cut him deep,
Speaker 2: you know, Bill Bill, Bill wept that night.
Speaker 7: One loan janitor, one ordinary joe leaning up a mass
Speaker 7: that has left the nation's financial markets and turmoil.
Speaker 2: Or was it an ordinary Joe?
Speaker 4: Mike Mike Milk.
Speaker 2: And so I think it's interesting makes him a janitor, right,
Speaker 2: you know, he's cleaned up. You know the financial markets
Speaker 2: makes that reference, right, like they go on the uh
Speaker 2: describe a little more of the junk bond stuff. But
Speaker 2: again you know, Mike Milkan was not a very political character.
Speaker 2: I don't think he still is a political I don't
Speaker 2: know them mean he's ever been a political character. Right,
Speaker 2: So now we're we're transcending politics and personal beefs. So
Speaker 2: what is mars beef with Mike Milkin is it's simply
Speaker 2: the the scandals around the junk bonds, if that's it,
Speaker 2: the bigger scandal surrounded folks like the Bush family and
Speaker 2: the Savings Lone crisis with Neil Bush and the Franklin scandal,
Speaker 2: these type of things, right, he seems and it seems
Speaker 2: like if anything was gonna be fussed about by mar
Speaker 2: be something like that.
Speaker 1: If he actually looked into anything more than the headlines problem.
Speaker 1: Michael Milkey got the headlines and that's all people looked at.
Speaker 2: You know, you're you're probably right. He was probably the
Speaker 2: butt of a lot of late night jokes at the time, right, right,
Speaker 2: had had I had either one of you familiar with
Speaker 2: when you all saw this and watched and saw Michael Milkin, Really,
Speaker 2: did y'all know who he was?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I did not at all, not at all. Now, That's
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Like, so, so some of these things
Speaker 2: are very like the Geraldine Ferraro. I think anyone most
Speaker 2: folks would watch that today like a who you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? But the you know, some of these
Speaker 2: things that seem seemingly obscure. But again, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't think it's by any sheer happenstance that Michael Milkins
Speaker 2: included a near for for you know, could be a
Speaker 2: number of reasons, but yeah, I mean he uh, he
Speaker 2: certainly got some headlines and and would have could have
Speaker 2: been on Mars. Uh. You know, an anti capitalist like
Speaker 2: Mars certainly would have not would have taken umbrage with
Speaker 2: old Michael Milkin there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like I don't know, do you want
Speaker 1: to play some of his criticism of Milking? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh hi, I.
Speaker 4: Just cleaning up around here.
Speaker 1: Jeesus, what a mess.
Speaker 2: Huh you're a billionaire. What what are you doing? Damn
Speaker 2: SCC they got me at day and night.
Speaker 4: I have to watch the cars too. Oh, those racketeering
Speaker 4: laws have some teeth.
Speaker 9: Yeah, my lawyer got me out of having a molder lawns,
Speaker 9: so I can't complain.
Speaker 4: What are you doing here?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 7: I was hoping you get answer some questions for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could go for a donut.
Speaker 4: I don't want to interrupt your routine, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, he makes him sound like the biggest dupe
Speaker 2: is right. Oh, I could go for a donut, right right.
Speaker 1: I don't remember Michael Milkin's personality. I just remember hearing
Speaker 1: about him.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't. I don't know that he's that
Speaker 2: big of a dunce, you know what I mean. I mean,
Speaker 2: the guy clearly was a criminal, perhaps obviously, but yeah, clearly. Uh.
Speaker 2: I seemingly a Wharton grad with some some some financial
Speaker 2: skill sets here might you know, be it mathematics or whatever, negotiations,
Speaker 2: who knows, but certainly some businessman skill sets, it seemed.
Speaker 7: And I'm like, I appreciate the dunk and everything, but
Speaker 7: people like taking this economy right down the crapper. Yeah,
Speaker 7: feel pretty bad about that, don't you.
Speaker 2: No, I've got plenty sucked the way. Yeah, well, anyway,
Speaker 2: get back to the cage.
Speaker 9: Oh well, I don't care what that dame told you.
Speaker 9: The mayor's metro Rail account is just fine. The junk
Speaker 9: bonds were bought out before the crash, bught by home.
Speaker 9: I don't think I should say, come on, Mike can
Speaker 9: help me. It's not really a who question.
Speaker 7: It's a what a oh, let me give you a hint.
Speaker 2: Wrong for your that is that is an interesting thing
Speaker 2: because it's not the Japanese about all these these municipal
Speaker 2: and state bonds in America today. It's the Chinese, right.
Speaker 1: Right, And that was a big change in the nineteen
Speaker 1: eighties to the nineteen nineties. They called the nineteen nineties
Speaker 1: the Lost decade in Japan because they had a huge
Speaker 1: financial crash, right, So there yen went through the U.
Speaker 1: They used yen, right, but their yen, you know, it
Speaker 1: deflated so much and they just took it on the chin.
Speaker 1: And basically their economy hasn't really been the same since.
Speaker 1: But it used to be in the eighties that the
Speaker 1: Japanese manufacturing processes were superior to all the Union you know,
Speaker 1: bailed out car manufacturers in the United States. So every
Speaker 1: car was Japanese, all the electronics were Japanese.
Speaker 4: Everything came from Japan.
Speaker 2: Sure, another other topic still relevant today with tariffs. So yeah,
Speaker 2: not to go down to a socioeconomic political conversation on
Speaker 2: that matter is here, but you go then then Marget's uh,
Speaker 2: you know, has an interaction with the former Prime Minister
Speaker 2: of Japan over these matters, as you, yeah, which is
Speaker 2: somewhat obscure. Then the Dame is always making her recurring
Speaker 2: role here in the recurring appearance throughout the film. Then
Speaker 2: you get to dan Quayle, and uh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, at the time, you know, dan Quill's a VP,
Speaker 2: he's famous, and then for all sorts of dumb ship
Speaker 2: being a being a moron, which I think, Uh, he's
Speaker 2: kind of went off into obscurity himself ever since this
Speaker 2: this era here see much of dan Quayle these days.
Speaker 2: The one thing I do, the one thing I don't
Speaker 2: even know that much about the guy, and one thing
Speaker 2: I do knows he's from the state of Indiana, and
Speaker 2: after seeing things that went down with the Delphi murder case,
Speaker 2: the entire state of Indiana's upper echelon of politics is
Speaker 2: way worse off than that anyone can imagine Folks like
Speaker 2: dan Quayle. He's a product of that. So was what
Speaker 2: was Trump's first VP, Pence. He's a product of that system.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I had something interesting about the Delfi case. This
Speaker 1: guy who said he was reading headlines related to this, uh,
Speaker 1: strange mental process of hearing voices and stuff said that
Speaker 1: they they said that Richard Allen was hearing voices.
Speaker 2: I had read that. I've never heard that once. Now, right,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: They're trying to They're trying to pentamental illness on him
Speaker 1: so that it makes it seem more plausible that he
Speaker 1: killed those people.
Speaker 4: But I don't think he did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did that. Dude's got a Yeah, he's in
Speaker 2: a lot of ship. I mean he's uh. I mean
Speaker 2: that that whole situation is pretty messed up. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I just the it's on fascinating of the level of uh,
Speaker 2: Tom Floury has gone there because you know, it's at
Speaker 2: a certain my froze duffrees for.
Speaker 4: A second, back, come my back.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Just but you know, I think I can I
Speaker 2: think I can pull some correlations between the Indiana situation.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say in this, in this Pizza Man film,
Speaker 2: clearly there's a lot of weird kid stuff being in
Speaker 2: going on around the upper echelon of politics in the
Speaker 2: state of Indiana, and it could just be complicity in
Speaker 2: the matter of not of not of covering it up right,
Speaker 2: because whatever went down with them two girls in their murder,
Speaker 2: I mean, it involved some weird shit some uh, perhaps
Speaker 2: some Freemason members with some of those characters, some weird
Speaker 2: uh you know, ritualistic odonism stuff. But that stuff goes
Speaker 2: up into the upper echelons of the state politics. And
Speaker 2: if they're again they're not memberships, then they're you know,
Speaker 2: at least covering up for some reason. What that reason
Speaker 2: would be if they're not members I'm not sure, but
Speaker 2: the level I was actually really shocked with some of
Speaker 2: the level of you know, politics are involved and all that.
Speaker 2: I mean, not much more different than the you know,
Speaker 2: the idea of for situation of the politics, but different politics.
Speaker 2: But you know that the politics in Indiana dated, they're
Speaker 2: pretty dark. It seems.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if you listened to the Nephelin
Speaker 1: Dutch squad, but they're convinced that the ultimate evil or
Speaker 1: the throne of Satan is under Indiana.
Speaker 2: Oh. I was not familiar with that theory, but I'll
Speaker 2: entertain it for sure. Yeah. So you know, in the
Speaker 2: stale Indiana, clearly there's a lot known that's not publicly
Speaker 2: known right amongst these political types, and relative to this
Speaker 2: deel Fi case particularly, you know, in the vast network
Speaker 2: of investigations that got they were. They were spot on
Speaker 2: with their investigations in the early part of the stuff,
Speaker 2: and it seemed like the murder of the Tara Hat
Speaker 2: detective who was working for the FBI Task Force is
Speaker 2: what shut it all down. That dude was murdered by
Speaker 2: by a politician co figure, a Democratic politician mistake city
Speaker 2: civin Dana there, mayoral candidate for Tara Hot mayor. Nonetheless,
Speaker 2: you know, in that same note, we see all this
Speaker 2: politics and political stuff in this Pizza Man film, right,
Speaker 2: But like that's what I'm saying, like, at some point
Speaker 2: in time, these weird pizza related activities permeate through politics,
Speaker 2: and seemingly state and federal level. I would argue local
Speaker 2: level as well, because it's all funded by the same
Speaker 2: same parties. But nonetheless, so you know, I'm not saying,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know the mayor of Los Angeles' history,
Speaker 2: you know, they're at the beginning of the film, but
Speaker 2: like you know, Ronald Reagan's got some dark shit around him.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know about Ferraro or you know,
Speaker 2: Quail Quail I Quail like pants. I imagine those dudes
Speaker 2: have some skeletons in their closet. You look at Mike pants, mister, Oh,
Speaker 2: I don't have meetings with women in myf's not present.
Speaker 2: All right, you've killed people, Bud, you got some stuff
Speaker 2: in your closet, Fella, you know what I mean. That's
Speaker 2: the first reaction I have when I hear that statement.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I don't know. You know these in
Speaker 2: ninety one, no one, no one was thinking that these
Speaker 2: subjects were close related to politics and whatnot. But you know,
Speaker 2: I think Bill mahin gang behind this film knew that.
Speaker 1: I think there is that dark undertone that it's sort
Speaker 1: of they're trying to presume that everybody knows how seedy
Speaker 1: this game is. But it's like it doesn't really translate
Speaker 1: too well.
Speaker 2: Sure, And then I got, I got before we get
Speaker 2: into the last party with Donald Trump, I'll play the
Speaker 2: clip here with the introduction of Donald Trump was and
Speaker 2: you mentioned this, I believe before the the you both
Speaker 2: did before we started the show. How the introduction of
Speaker 2: Donald Trump of the film Bill Mayer, the pizza man
Speaker 2: has no idea who he is. And I just think
Speaker 2: that's that's just the way to troll the dude and
Speaker 2: talks ship like, oh, who are you again? Nah, that
Speaker 2: doesn't sound from Mayor, you know, because he gets them.
Speaker 2: He gets him, like his whole resume right, And Bill's like, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: never heard of you? That what we're all Before I
Speaker 2: played the clip? What did you guys think on that scene?
Speaker 2: Was that? Was that a similar take that Yell had? Well?
Speaker 5: I thought it was weird that the guy didn't realize
Speaker 5: even though they worked together, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 5: I mean, the guy at one point in midst of
Speaker 5: him that we worked together, Like, how do you not realize?
Speaker 5: Like she'd see the dude, don't you be like, Oh,
Speaker 5: that's the guy that supposedly disappeared from my pizza shop
Speaker 5: one day I'm writing this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he was. He was the original pizza guy
Speaker 2: that disappeared, right supposedly when they.
Speaker 5: Said, yeah, it was the first guy disappeared with the
Speaker 5: sagano of these pizza.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they tie that back in. I thought that
Speaker 2: was really weird to because they don't really explain that
Speaker 2: because he's you know, he's like, you know, Donald, who what? Who?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 2: What what is you? What were your thoughts? They're headless.
Speaker 1: I couldn't understand what they were going for but I
Speaker 1: think at some level they were they were trying to
Speaker 1: troll them about fame. The whole movie seems to be
Speaker 1: obsessed with fame. It's like how popular people are in
Speaker 1: other people's eyes and stuff. So yeah, you kind of
Speaker 1: got maybe the indication that they were trying to drop
Speaker 1: a joke. Okay, well he doesn't know who Donald Trump is.
Speaker 1: How could you not know?
Speaker 2: Right? But yeah, I mean is Donald Trump was pretty
Speaker 2: big in nineteen ninety one. I mean, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: he hadn't he hadn't appeared in Homeline too yet, but
Speaker 2: I think he was just about to. But you know,
Speaker 2: he's still he was a major major figure in business,
Speaker 2: not politics. But you know he owned uh not that
Speaker 2: not an NFL team, there was that other other football
Speaker 2: league in the eighties that he owned a football team with.
Speaker 2: You know, He's just he was a major figure in society,
Speaker 2: I guess, right. I think I think you can miss
Speaker 2: America at the time, right, So, I mean you do
Speaker 2: a lot of different things.
Speaker 1: Lifestyles are just and famous. You know, that was like ubiquitous,
Speaker 1: and you also like this has taken from the perspective
Speaker 1: where everybody has five channels and you can assume that
Speaker 1: they know all the same stuff.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure this is before the early onslaught of even
Speaker 2: USA television, right, yes, so for the edification of the
Speaker 2: folks in the interwebs. Not that this storyline makes any sense.
Speaker 2: Bill Maher just beat up the quails and Donald Trump
Speaker 2: pops in and he's like, hey, I'm really I'm really
Speaker 2: the one behind this. Again, not really relevant, but that
Speaker 2: is what's going on here. I don't get it. This
Speaker 2: is worriech.
Speaker 4: When you didn't show up after that last delivery, you've
Speaker 4: been all these years?
Speaker 2: Where do you think I've been?
Speaker 1: I'm Donald Trump. I know you're a pizza man, A
Speaker 1: pretty good one.
Speaker 2: That was back in the nearly seventies.
Speaker 1: I'm a billionaire now, Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I when I just want to
Speaker 2: pause out here, when I first saw that now when
Speaker 2: he calls him a pizza man, it's like, why are
Speaker 2: they both calling each other pizza man? You know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 1: And he's a former pizza man the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 2: Right right right back when he was hanging out Studio
Speaker 2: fifty four with raycon Or as I like to joke around.
Speaker 2: Maybe raycon Donald Trump and David Burkowitz from Men Walking
Speaker 2: with Michael Jackson at Studio fifty four, just you know,
Speaker 2: just a fantasy that I like to portray in my
Speaker 2: head from time to time. They were all definitely there
Speaker 2: at the same time, apparently, you know, but whether or
Speaker 2: not they're men walking is a different, different tale together.
Speaker 1: But where they're Gerbils, well.
Speaker 2: The gear was there, you know, there was present.
Speaker 6: The Trump Palace, the Trump Plaza, the Trump Shadow, the
Speaker 6: Trump Game, the Trump Book, Trump Trump Trump.
Speaker 5: Trump.
Speaker 4: Huh um, no, it didn't ring a bell.
Speaker 2: Why'd Julie, which you know I can. We don't have
Speaker 2: to play anymore of that. Trump ends up telling him
Speaker 2: you hired everybody to torment Bill Maher over this fifteen
Speaker 2: dollars and twenty three cents and some sort of weird
Speaker 2: revenge thing, which again is the most you know, blackluster
Speaker 2: ending to this film spoiler alert. But you know, the uh,
Speaker 2: the idea, like the idea that I can watch Bill
Speaker 2: Mahr say he has never heard of Trump, when Bill
Speaker 2: Maher has spent tens of thousands of hours over the
Speaker 2: last eight years just saying the word Trump. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean? In various derogatory fashions, it's just funny
Speaker 2: to watch them say I've never heard Trump. Nope, never
Speaker 2: heard of them.
Speaker 1: Well, I think I'm going to go to the HBO
Speaker 1: studios and actually get up in the middle of one
Speaker 1: of the tapings and say, pizza Man sucked, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't taste me, bro, don't taste.
Speaker 2: He may not even remember he made this film. He's
Speaker 2: probably trying to hide that, you know, trying to hide that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Again, I don't know. I think he's
Speaker 2: a dark I mean, I think he's kind of a
Speaker 2: darker dude. You know, you may you know. I to me,
Speaker 2: it's it's not a joke to name your production company
Speaker 2: kid Love Productions, especially when you're making these weird coded
Speaker 2: films about pizza. You know, at the same time, like
Speaker 2: that is weird. It's off putting to me, it's bizarre.
Speaker 2: And again, you know, I'll let you guys, I'll let
Speaker 2: you guys give you some of your final reviews here.
Speaker 2: But for me, it's it's the it's the oddity of
Speaker 2: this stuff from nineteen ninety one is still relevant today
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five and a parapolitical you know context here,
Speaker 2: and the same characters and the same kind of you know,
Speaker 2: not necessarily the same Script's what I'm saying, like the
Speaker 2: same the same script of its revolving around this udiddling
Speaker 2: activities right or in around those and around those activities.
Speaker 1: Well, I think he nailed it with the Wharton School
Speaker 1: because there seems to be a lot of connections between
Speaker 1: the early nineties, the Wharton School and what's going on
Speaker 1: today with the you know, Trump administration. So that could be,
Speaker 1: you know, one of these groups to watch in terms
Speaker 1: of connections to whatever Trump's got up his sleeves.
Speaker 2: You know, well, not only Trump, but that's a good point,
Speaker 2: only Trump, because while Trump was in office and Biden
Speaker 2: was at office there from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: the CCP funded an economic school over there at U
Speaker 2: Penn and named it the Biden School of Economics. Here
Speaker 2: at the Wharton School business so and Anthony his buddy
Speaker 2: garage banded enthusiast and part time Secretary of State Anthony
Speaker 2: Blincoln was the head of that business on's it open.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of weird stuff going on there Wharton,
Speaker 2: you know, from both sides, I.
Speaker 1: Think, yeah, I mean, if you're talking about a shot
Speaker 1: across the bow what better way than to buy building
Speaker 1: at the school that all these people who are posing
Speaker 1: you come from.
Speaker 2: That's the way looked at it. That's the way I
Speaker 2: looked at it, right, Yeah, Yeah, moreos Moreol's thoughts here
Speaker 2: on the on the on the movie, Like did you
Speaker 2: all have a favorite scene? Like, was there a favorite
Speaker 2: aspect of this film? I mean it was just collectively shitty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Nick, what was your favorite part of what.
Speaker 2: Was your favorite scene?
Speaker 5: That's the thing about this ship. I mean there was
Speaker 5: a few pats that I was like, all right, that
Speaker 5: was kind of funny.
Speaker 2: But really okay, at least you laughed.
Speaker 5: Well no, I mean it's like, I think, funny, like
Speaker 5: kind of like it wasn't so stupid, like it was
Speaker 5: like silly though that you can laugh.
Speaker 2: I've watched it. I've watched him with the understanding it's satirical,
Speaker 2: and I still have yet to laugh. But I see
Speaker 2: what you're saying.
Speaker 5: I think. I mean the Trump part I thought was
Speaker 5: actually probably the best.
Speaker 2: Honestly, Yeah, that at least has some satirical comedy to
Speaker 2: it today, right, Yeah, I think yeah, today it kind
Speaker 2: of does.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 5: The simple fact of like I did find it amusing,
Speaker 5: how he slapped his shit out of that chick and
Speaker 5: how like it was like no, I mean I think
Speaker 5: he did kind of make a point like, oh, I
Speaker 5: guess she got even, but like she really didn't do
Speaker 5: those guys didn't really do anything to her except for
Speaker 5: tire in the chair and she just like fucking blow
Speaker 5: him away.
Speaker 2: And there was like, uh, that's a good point.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just don't know how he is. It just seemed interesting.
Speaker 5: I think the character he played.
Speaker 4: Well there applied our word in there.
Speaker 1: You know as well she said something about how they
Speaker 1: took advantage of her or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I uh well, I mean as far as Bill
Speaker 2: Maher play an action star, I would much rather watch
Speaker 2: Tom Cruise play a tall guy who knows how to fight,
Speaker 2: rather than Bill Maher play a tall guy he knows
Speaker 2: how to fight.
Speaker 5: The cartwheel was impressive.
Speaker 2: The car wheel was impressive. If if done they've done himself.
Speaker 2: That was an impressive move. Now, but I don't know
Speaker 2: about there's having sense with his fight scene. That's when
Speaker 2: to it's gonna play this clippery I forgot to play
Speaker 2: before him reiterate that he beat the brakes off a
Speaker 2: dank whale's wife.
Speaker 4: It's not playing right, let's freeze it out.
Speaker 1: That's the best part too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that said, I was gonna choose.
Speaker 2: I think maybe the point was dan Quaila's cowerie in
Speaker 2: the corner. Maybe that was the point scene.
Speaker 5: Maybe so that ship with him on top of the
Speaker 5: crate acting like he's playing with the plane and bombing stuff,
Speaker 5: like acting like you know, yeah, they kept that going,
Speaker 5: They kept that, They kept going with that for a while.
Speaker 5: I was like, you know, this is still going with that.
Speaker 5: If you pay attention in the background, he does it
Speaker 5: for a minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was doing the whole time, right, yeah, ship
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 5: I'll find funny. I was like, damn, he really kept
Speaker 5: that going for that long. But I mean, still it's
Speaker 5: just a shitty movie, but that tactic I find funny.
Speaker 2: I think we found next favorite favorite scene in the
Speaker 2: Pizza No Ones.
Speaker 5: No, actually, my favorite scene is credits.
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go, which was weird. All the music
Speaker 2: was written like for this film too, and if you
Speaker 2: look at the lyrics, it was all like related to
Speaker 2: the scenes and some of this very strange stuff. I
Speaker 2: don't I don't, I don't have an explanation, but headless,
Speaker 2: what was your uh, what was your what was your
Speaker 2: favorite scene there?
Speaker 1: Obviously it was the obviously it was the scene with
Speaker 1: the lady at the beginning where he's called me yes
Speaker 1: the day calling her down was it should have happened
Speaker 1: a lot more. I don't think enough.
Speaker 2: Nice. Okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they left her with like bloody teeth and everything too.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, Like yeah, like the whole film she's bloody
Speaker 2: that she dies. I'm like, what is the message with this?
Speaker 2: With this situation here? Right? Like what are they doing here?
Speaker 2: She's not really love it. I mean she's like like
Speaker 2: a love interest without being a love interest kind of deal,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, it's not Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: very it's very odd. Interactions would even go out.
Speaker 5: He doesn't even want to pay for.
Speaker 2: Right, right. Yeah, they he mixed some solid points of
Speaker 2: the any credit scene being the best scene. There's really
Speaker 2: not an aspect. And when I like, when I recommended
Speaker 2: this to y'all, I was like, oh, this is gonna
Speaker 2: be good because I it's like a you know, it's
Speaker 2: a bit obviously because it's not a good movie. It's
Speaker 2: debably not a good film whatsoever. There's a lot I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a big fan of of cinema, of
Speaker 2: Hollywood and whatnot have been since I was a child.
Speaker 2: I mean, most of the film is not anymore. There's
Speaker 2: nothing really good produce. But you know, during that was
Speaker 2: kind of the era which I would watch just about
Speaker 2: everything that I could get on VHS, and uh yeah,
Speaker 2: I never heard of that or seen that even at
Speaker 2: the time, like you know, because I watched everything. I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: this is I see some bad movies of that era,
Speaker 2: and this that this movie was. I mean, it might
Speaker 2: be the worst. It might if the Razzies existed at
Speaker 2: the time. I don't think that things is pret razzi.
Speaker 2: If the Razzies existed, it should have won, which is,
Speaker 2: you know, the worst film of the year or whatever,
Speaker 2: the opposite of the Emmy.
Speaker 1: It's got a lot of potential as being a Swiss
Speaker 1: of memes, you know, like you turn a lot of those.
Speaker 5: Scenes that's like an untapped swisser.
Speaker 1: Means, if if Bill Maher wasn't so ugly, you could
Speaker 1: trying to do a big meme factory.
Speaker 5: But it might might be interesting to start making some
Speaker 5: memes like it, like when you got to catch the
Speaker 5: frame where he's like smacking the chick, making memes with
Speaker 5: that and see how he reacts. Yeah, if that catches on,
Speaker 5: and see how it reacts to that.
Speaker 1: I actually tried doing that. I was going through old
Speaker 1: eighties movies and catching you know, because there's a bunch
Speaker 1: of them that are just super weird, like, uh, they're
Speaker 1: kind of like exploitation slash you know, frat movies, like
Speaker 1: the party movies. Right, it's crazy like meme potential in
Speaker 1: some of that stuff.
Speaker 4: I just haven't seen it, you know, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Bill Bill Martin is really not an actor,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Him acting in that film
Speaker 2: is is kind of an outlying role for him. I
Speaker 2: mean he I think the only other movie he did
Speaker 2: was written by the same guy. Was like another another
Speaker 2: obscure movie, right like yeah he uh. He also starred
Speaker 2: in its definitely written by the same guy. Something about
Speaker 2: Amazon women and oh boy other Jungle of Death and
Speaker 2: then Pizza Man written by the same guy. Wow, so
Speaker 2: very obscure films.
Speaker 1: Was that a robot movie?
Speaker 2: I don't know what this is starring Shannon Tweed. She's
Speaker 2: a Canadian. I was played withoy model Bill Maher. That's
Speaker 2: an odd okay, Yeah, same guy. J F Wawdon are you? Written,
Speaker 2: written and directed by Jaff Wawdon. Wow, Yeah, it seems
Speaker 2: like a seems like an odd odd one.
Speaker 1: He's got me hooked. I got to see this movie.
Speaker 2: I've heard the name Adrian Barbo that. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: I've heard her old Grease Okay gre there.
Speaker 1: That's weird.
Speaker 2: Not the actor Dean Stockwell, but someone playing the name
Speaker 2: Dean Stalkwell. I wonder if that what that's about. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean it's odd. He's just not you know, he's
Speaker 2: not an actor. I mean, he's these other roles here,
Speaker 2: besides those two films. So again, an appearance of something
Speaker 2: called d C. Cab rat Boy. It was a role
Speaker 2: party guest, something called House to the second story, which
Speaker 2: is oh Fred Decker. Yeah, he's a diddler. That makes sense.
Speaker 2: It's the it's the guy from Monster Squad and the
Speaker 2: Predator film writer. He's a he was actually he was
Speaker 2: actually blacklist from Hollywood for a long time. But yeah,
Speaker 2: he's a confirmed convicted dealer. Not shocked at the Mars
Speaker 2: starring announcement start acting in his film What is this?
Speaker 2: Robert Butler and Bruce Abbott or Bruce Abbot Bill Meyer
Speaker 2: called out of time well, this looks weird. What it's
Speaker 2: a failed television pilot made into a TV movie. Okay,
Speaker 2: some sort of a buddy cop uh, you know, sci
Speaker 2: fi trying SPACEFLK looks like, yeah, I can't imagine where
Speaker 2: that failed. I mean again, Bill Maher's acting chops, I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying I'm an actor, but I'm
Speaker 2: just saying like, yeah, if you're gonna act, I mean
Speaker 2: that ain't. I don't know what that you know, he's not.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't call anything he did in that film acting.
Speaker 2: I mean that, I like what we saw on that.
Speaker 2: Even the pizza man is like a I think the
Speaker 2: law in Alerts part is. Bill Maher's personality is that
Speaker 2: dry kind of you know, very kind of dry sense.
Speaker 2: That's the kind of impression I get from the guy.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any depth of acting in the Guys. Again,
Speaker 2: if he did his fight scenes, good for him. That's
Speaker 2: some stunt work, I guess. Right.
Speaker 1: It's funny though his entire early career seems to be
Speaker 1: nothing but a string of failures, right, like, how do
Speaker 1: you how does the guy like that rise to prominence
Speaker 1: when you know, I mean, every one of these movies
Speaker 1: was a stinker.
Speaker 2: Sure, Sure, that's there's another Hollywood guy that got banished
Speaker 2: for a little while but came back. Yeah, sometimes they
Speaker 2: just have to go get suspended for a while, you know,
Speaker 2: Bred Decker, Victor Salva, you know what I mean. That's
Speaker 2: that's Francis Ford Copple is underling Victor Salva. Some dark
Speaker 2: shit around that tale. That's for damn sure. Francis Ford
Speaker 2: Copele made the victim come back over to to finish
Speaker 2: the movie. I forgot raped by the director on the film.
Speaker 2: Crazy what But anyhow, Yeah, so you know a lot
Speaker 2: of the That's what I'm saying. Whenever I see there's
Speaker 2: I know, folks have probably some some sort of I
Speaker 2: mean hopefully not too many people in this day and age,
Speaker 2: but you know, idealistic perspective of Hollywood. I just see
Speaker 2: a bunch of kiddudlers, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 2: see I see the Pizza Man and the kid Love productions.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, this makes a lot of sense. And
Speaker 2: I see Bill Maher one of the few other acting
Speaker 2: roles he's in a Fred Decker film, Like, ah, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: I see what's going on here, And I see what's
Speaker 2: going on here?
Speaker 1: That's too many points right.
Speaker 2: Oh, speaking of Nickelodeon, Dan Schneider stuff. Uh, they lost
Speaker 2: one of their child actresses today that Michelle Trachtenberg was
Speaker 2: found dead to day she got she got her monster
Speaker 2: career there on Dan Schneider's Nickelodeon.
Speaker 4: Really I thought it was Buffy.
Speaker 2: No, this is before Buffy. I don't know, don't ask you
Speaker 2: what show she was on. I just know she was on.
Speaker 2: She was one of their early you know, I'll tell
Speaker 2: you right now, she's one of the early starlets there
Speaker 2: on the in the you know, mid nineties, maybe on Nickelodeon,
Speaker 2: early nineties, maybe staying by one second, I'll tell you
Speaker 2: Pete and Pete nineteen ninety four to nineteen ninety six,
Speaker 2: a shit, and then she and then she continued to
Speaker 2: start multiple Nickelodeon productions following that. This is, you know,
Speaker 2: in the nineties. Yeah, so she, uh, that's a that's
Speaker 2: a pet and Pete. That's that's during the Schneider Schneider
Speaker 2: era of uh of you know Nickelodeon. He wasn't the
Speaker 2: you know, the the guy that created that show, right,
Speaker 2: but you know, this is the era in which Schneider
Speaker 2: takes over control of Nickelodeon. This is when they're changing
Speaker 2: the logo to a foot, you know what I mean? Right?
Speaker 2: He would subsequently produce, be the executi producer and basically
Speaker 2: every you know, popular show after that show.
Speaker 1: Well, Pete and Pete had a lot of feet references.
Speaker 1: I think that was one of the big smush flakes that.
Speaker 2: He Oh oh did it really?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean he was always doing smush flakes in
Speaker 1: each one of his shows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know right. It's kind of gross, isn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I saw some comments. I want to get too far
Speaker 2: off on that tangent, but I saw some comments about
Speaker 2: Pee Diddy earlier. Isn't it weird that Pete Day he did,
Speaker 2: you know, some guest appearances on some Dan Schneider Nickelodeon chows.
Speaker 2: Isn't that strange?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Makes you wonder, you wonder how how how much of
Speaker 2: this pizza stuff is going on in Hollywood? You know?
Speaker 1: Well, I know what Anna Paulina Luda, Luda's got her
Speaker 1: work cut out for and trying to get rid of
Speaker 1: those references that are inconvenient.
Speaker 2: I thought you're gonna say, she's gonna she's gonna solve
Speaker 2: everything for us. Oh yeah, does she? I wonder when
Speaker 2: she goes and walks, you know, walks up to these
Speaker 2: podiums and what not to get her speeches unless you
Speaker 2: have like a song like she used to have at
Speaker 2: the Strip club, you know, like an entrance song.
Speaker 4: You know she was raised Jewish.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, So.
Speaker 1: It's it's all of it. I mean, like they can't
Speaker 1: let anything about Israel get out. They can't let anything
Speaker 1: about you know, any of the associates that they might
Speaker 1: have get out out. So there's a there's a real
Speaker 1: good reason why they put her in charge of letting
Speaker 1: these things out. Because she ain't.
Speaker 4: You got to do it.
Speaker 1: The first hearing is going to be on March twenty ninth,
Speaker 1: just an awful full month.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna hold my breath until that date then
Speaker 2: because I know they're going to solve it right. Well, Well, Jents,
Speaker 2: I appreciate your time. You got any closing comments or
Speaker 2: anything you want to plug here before we before we
Speaker 2: wrap up.
Speaker 4: The show, just check me out tomorrow night.
Speaker 1: We got uh, we got reading emails going on, So
Speaker 1: if you want to send your stories to me about
Speaker 1: and we'll read them on air.
Speaker 4: They could be anonymous.
Speaker 1: Uh, just send it over to Headless Giant Podcast at
Speaker 1: gmail dot com and we will read them.
Speaker 2: So that's good. I'll send you when I was thinking
Speaker 2: about time when my associates and I had actually kidnapped
Speaker 2: the satch of Liberty in which to fight the evil
Speaker 2: ghost creature that come back from the dead.
Speaker 1: Don't you mean the stay Puff marshmallow Man.
Speaker 2: Damn it? No, that's my bads ghostbusters to my apologies, Nick.
Speaker 2: Do you have any any closing thoughts, any statements for anything?
Speaker 2: Working on a plugs? Uh?
Speaker 5: No, just I guess to check out the life this
Speaker 5: Saturday Friday, Yes, and Friday. That's right, that's right, that is.
Speaker 2: I bet.
Speaker 5: But yeah, know that that's about it. Yeah all right.
Speaker 2: All right on that note, Well that's it. That's the
Speaker 2: show here, folks.
Speaker 8: So the next time you're out on the town, visit
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Speaker 8: and you hear the unmistakable sounds of metal clanking and
Speaker 8: you spot signs of a disturbance, check your six look
Speaker 8: in that garbage can, because you never can tell
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