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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the vets speaking out this week, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of vet's unhappy with the direction of not just WWE,

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<v Speaker 1>but modern wrestling as a whole. Kevin Nash spoke on it,

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<v Speaker 1>RVD spoke on it. Obviously, Bischoff had his two cents.

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<v Speaker 1>Who else threw out a fucking Jonathan coachman. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever his opinion's worth as far as wrestling goes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's kind of been a unanimous thing that the

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<v Speaker 1>direction of WWE right now, obviously being the blanket professional

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<v Speaker 1>statement of all wrestling is uh is not good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's bad. Well, well, I don't know if you knew

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<v Speaker 2>this or if you got to hear that exact clip,

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<v Speaker 2>but Conrad basically led Bischoff to admitting slash agreeing with

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that Roman Reigns is the most push an

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<v Speaker 2>overrated wrestler. Yeah time, no, no, I read that earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't actually listen to it, but I did read

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<v Speaker 1>his comments about it, and you're not wrong. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>think about it like this, how poorly is Roman pushed?

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<v Speaker 1>When naysayers, when people that would typically fall in line

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<v Speaker 1>are the ones to agree with us, Now, do you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>How badly is the system broken when the worst examples

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<v Speaker 1>of human advice are the one synonymous with all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, well, I mean it just it makes me laugh

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<v Speaker 2>because it makes me cry. Dude.

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<v Speaker 1>It means that this whole shit is so much worse

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<v Speaker 1>than even we're seeing it. It's kind of like, how

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<v Speaker 1>badly does a system need to be broken when both

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<v Speaker 1>sides of the political debate agree that it's broken?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? Now, well, Mish, let's not get into anything political,

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<v Speaker 2>because you are a saint for putting up with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, no, I know, It's okay, I'm a jime.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just huge pussy.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just mean the political course of a

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<v Speaker 1>w versus WWE because there's no other wrestling companies in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>That is well, I mean, I guess, yeah, fair enough,

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<v Speaker 2>but no, like, it's just it's fucking hilarious to me

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<v Speaker 2>that what what are we going to do this game now?

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<v Speaker 2>Ten years after the fact were's good doing? So maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it just so happens per chance Roman reigns is over

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<v Speaker 2>pushed and force fed. Right, what what you're making things up?

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<v Speaker 2>That's not Where did that idea come from? Oh? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, Mark.

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<v Speaker 1>Promotionpiro was quoted this week by the Way Wrestling Soup.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Anthony, he's Joe. It is Thursday. It's actually nice out.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to bitch about the weather, but uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been pretty good for the last couple of days. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about you. I know a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>have been bitching about rain, but back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>One day funny, next day rainy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's usually in the morning. It's usually shitty in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, and then by the time fucking eleven rolls around,

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<v Speaker 1>you're already on the road doing shit. But so Mark Shapiro,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Shapiro, leader Lord of w w E. He said

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<v Speaker 1>during the shareholders meeting, if TKO was not chasing every

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<v Speaker 1>last hour, Mark Shapiro did an earnings call for TKO,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said that they have two focuses right now,

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<v Speaker 1>the fan experience and profitability and not necessarily in that order.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no way.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if that isn't the Stephanie McMahon quote, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the fuck is out, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just the fan experience and profitability and not in that order.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck, oh my god. It's it's quite literally like we're

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<v Speaker 2>at the point where like you said, like a Stephanie

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<v Speaker 2>McMahon quote. At least Stephanie tried to lie. She tried

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<v Speaker 2>to lie. No, no, no, no, she didn't, but she hid

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<v Speaker 2>that ship. She hid it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the difference is so she didn't lie. I do

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<v Speaker 1>believe when Stephanie spoke at those business conferences, she was

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<v Speaker 1>being one hundred percent true to herself. Even when she

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<v Speaker 1>was doing the Four Moms podcasts or whatever the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>that was called with her and the other business female CEOs,

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<v Speaker 1>she would say some pretty off the wall shit, and

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe that everything she said she felt was true.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Stephanie McMahon is a liar, but she

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<v Speaker 1>has enough wherewithal to go back and go scrub this,

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<v Speaker 1>scrub it all, get it off, make it.

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<v Speaker 2>Go away, make it go away exactly. Yeah, she's she's

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<v Speaker 2>that knocked off the internet, like the Little Zan's album

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<v Speaker 2>and the first Tony Hitchcliff fucking comedy special, Like they're

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<v Speaker 2>all getting wiped off the internet. They're smart enough to

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<v Speaker 2>know to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Or like Becky Lynch's comment about Dominic Mysterio and Live Morgan.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh they got get rid of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is it's it's even more super I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>with good mic Work and he's like, ah, this is bullshit, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way that they fucking did that. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's not w WE that did that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's fair right, So Netflix scrubbed the comments. Well, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think I still have it. No, yeah, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>So funny to me that they took that off, because

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<v Speaker 2>it's just just some extent. What is somebody gonna wash

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<v Speaker 2>back raw and you're gonna hear Becky make some comment,

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<v Speaker 2>be like that sex with each other, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>that's the that's the big worry. You actually have the audio,

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<v Speaker 2>but your turn you can't hear it. No, no, it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all right. That's because it's that's because they've blocked

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<v Speaker 2>it out. God damn, that's just blocked for you, not

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<v Speaker 2>for everybody else. Yeah, I have to I have to

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<v Speaker 2>scan my ID.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I was trying to say was Netflix blocked

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<v Speaker 1>it out and they censored it off the replays. But

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<v Speaker 1>on WWE's own YouTube channel they have it there. They

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<v Speaker 1>have it in a three minute clip. Yeah that's still there.

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<v Speaker 2>So explain.

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<v Speaker 1>But that again, this goes to things like t k O.

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<v Speaker 1>This goes to things like Netflix. Netflix. This is all

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<v Speaker 1>that overpacification or pascifization. It's all like this catering to

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<v Speaker 1>sponsors and money. And when it comes to WWE YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's just run by a different part of

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<v Speaker 1>the company that just doesn't give a fuck about those things.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, WWE YouTube has censored a lot of ship

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<v Speaker 1>in the past, of course they have, but they're not

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<v Speaker 1>so micromanaging where they think had a comment about dominic

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping around in storyline is so damaging to the sponsors

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<v Speaker 1>that they would pull out because I mean, what else

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<v Speaker 1>could it be? Why else would they have pld that

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<v Speaker 1>comment shoe?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's just funny to me because I

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<v Speaker 2>the only two things that I remember. I'm sorry, I

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<v Speaker 2>think only one thing I know dom does advertisements for.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, no, I'm sorry. I was right. Initially two

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<v Speaker 2>things Wingstop and door Dash. So were they thinking of themselves? Listen,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't want to throw the good people off at

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<v Speaker 2>Wingstop by making reference to this twenty six year old

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<v Speaker 2>man having intercourse in passing on this television program. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that it's so fucking dumb. It's so dumb, But also,

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, This is what happens when you

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<v Speaker 2>have the wrestler that speaks organically on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ, I'm sorry for stuttering my words. Guys, Holy shit,

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize. I'll try not to use ten cent words anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fuck, what was it? I don't even understand what

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<v Speaker 2>word did you say? That was boob? Booby? Yeah, boobs

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<v Speaker 2>with a EWB. That's why. Uh no, man, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>guess that's what you get. That's part of the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why you know, like WWE or not even WWE slash

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<v Speaker 2>t k O. But Netflix is like, we want our

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<v Speaker 2>predictable fucking slop. That's what it's gonna be. Like we

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<v Speaker 2>we don't want you guys to say anything fresh and naughty. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>correct me if I'm wrong. But they put like weird

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<v Speaker 2>Love Island Desk reality shows on that streaming service right right,

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<v Speaker 2>the ones where people all go to like fuck Island

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<v Speaker 2>and they sit around and get drunk all day and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like your incentivized to cheat on your spouse for

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<v Speaker 2>attention and money or whatever. The fuck. That's cool, but

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<v Speaker 2>on the wrestling show, you can't have somebody say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're having sex with your onscreen girlfriend, that's

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<v Speaker 2>at much.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just silly too, considering all the angles and the

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<v Speaker 1>things that WWE has put on the screen before. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we were just joking about it the other day about

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<v Speaker 1>the live sex celebration with edge and lead up, but

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<v Speaker 1>yet just inferring to something and just a roundabout statement

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<v Speaker 1>from Becky Lynch is just so offensive that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to pull it from Netflix. From Netflix replays, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is also too. Now everybody has to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>I guess know this that wants the full spectrum of

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<v Speaker 1>what the show is going to be, that don't bother

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<v Speaker 1>watching it on actual Netflix, and especially the replay. You

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<v Speaker 1>just might as well just go steal it offline because

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<v Speaker 1>there's a better chance you're actually gonna get the interviews

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<v Speaker 1>that they show between the commercials in case somebody says

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<v Speaker 1>something that's not even like a you know, a swear

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<v Speaker 1>or offensive in any of the actual tangible ways, but

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<v Speaker 1>just something that Netflix seems that they don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>put on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>So in that way, you are at least a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit incentivizing people. Like I said, I'm gonna just go

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<v Speaker 2>find this shit on my own time. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna bother giving you this fucking click because it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be orchestrated strangely by Netflix for some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I guess that's what happens once again

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<v Speaker 2>when you have a dangerous pro wrestler with a hot

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<v Speaker 2>mic like Becky Lynch. Yeah, what a joke, what a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking goofest. But there's a lot of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Old guys are are kind of spazzing out on the uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The newer generation of wrestling, Kevin Nash is the one

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<v Speaker 1>that's all notably in the IWC hot water right now.

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<v Speaker 1>During an episode of the Click podcast, Kevin Nash discussed

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<v Speaker 1>how wrestlers and previous generations benefited from working a high

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<v Speaker 1>volume of matches and spending extensive time on the road together,

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<v Speaker 1>which helped them with their in ring skills. Nash said,

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching on YouTube the other day, or it

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<v Speaker 1>might have just been on Instagram, but it looked like

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<v Speaker 1>it might have been a TV taping from a while back.

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<v Speaker 1>It was totally Blanchard versus Sam Houston. It was probably

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<v Speaker 1>about a four minute clip and it looked like they

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<v Speaker 1>were having a fight. You know, it really had a

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<v Speaker 1>gritty feel to it. I think that's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that's missing. Sean said, is it okay that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the product has evolved? I mean, movies evolve, Everything evolved.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking of something the other day. I was

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<v Speaker 1>looking at still of Cody for the SummerSlam main event.

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<v Speaker 1>We always talked about heels and baby faces, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got a root for someone. But I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about traditional sports, right and Ali. No one was the

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<v Speaker 1>heel in the face. But maybe I was vehemently passionately

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<v Speaker 1>cheering for Ali, and maybe you were vehemently passionately cheering

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<v Speaker 1>for Marciano, the Lions and the Bears right Ford Field.

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<v Speaker 1>You have passionate fans on both sides. Nobody needs to

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<v Speaker 1>do anything dastardly for that to have it happen. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling just has become like the NFL in that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that valid? Is that possible?

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<v Speaker 1>And Nash responded, well, I've said this my entire career.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all good and said and done. But the blueprint

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<v Speaker 1>of a match is somebody's got to make a comeback

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody's got to give all at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>understand Sean Oliver's point, and I think that that's where

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of breakdown for a lot of wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>fans that grew up in the seventies, eighties, nineties, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is that we've been used to the accustomed baby face

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<v Speaker 1>versus antagonists. But now we're at a point where, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>reigns is promo on Monday, it was a shitty thing

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<v Speaker 1>to say to people. It was a shitty way to act.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet people cheer him like he's the best guy in

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Sean Oliver's thing, I think right his whole assessment there,

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<v Speaker 2>sports rivalries or boxing rivalries, a lot of the time

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<v Speaker 2>that is tied to specific civic pride. Dare I even

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<v Speaker 2>say what nationality, racial barriers? Obviously when you're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>you know, old school boxing and all of the shit

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<v Speaker 2>like that all plays into it. So it's not just like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we took two dumpy white guys that look basically the same,

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<v Speaker 2>act basically the same.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how you sugar coated racism. But that's nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm no, but that's but that's what the time, that's

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<v Speaker 2>Man Like, Yeah, I'm not like hooray hips, but like

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<v Speaker 2>they don't want the black guy to when they want

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<v Speaker 2>the Italian guy to win. I know, I saw Rocky.

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<v Speaker 2>They keep making those movies. Man, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>at that and go, well, that's fantastic or that that

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<v Speaker 2>what a great way for things. No, but you can't

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<v Speaker 2>tell me when Muhammad Ali wasn't was up there talking

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<v Speaker 2>shit and fucking speaking his mind. There wasn't a part

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<v Speaker 2>of him. It says, a great white hope, right, who's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be the fucking cracker that comes along and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>puts this guy in his place? How dare he talk

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<v Speaker 2>to us like that? Like that's where it came from.

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<v Speaker 2>Like when people try to do that with anything outside

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<v Speaker 2>of wrestling, anything that gets over right, even in the UFC.

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<v Speaker 2>Going back to what's his name, ChIL Sonnen and Brazilian guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm blinking on his name, but those two dudes was, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Anderson Serva. That was the whole thing with them, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Roddy Piper, and Anderson Silver was just like I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>silent assassin. I stand over here and I fight for

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<v Speaker 2>Brazil and else. That's what they were doing, man Like,

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<v Speaker 2>It's all within that web. And that's the funny thing

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<v Speaker 2>is when people try to say wrestling can be all

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<v Speaker 2>these other things, but what they don't realize is that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the successful shit and entertainment and sports

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<v Speaker 2>and everything, it's all just stealing from wrestling. It's more

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<v Speaker 2>fucking fake phony WWE k fabe shit than it is

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<v Speaker 2>its own individual thing. People just don't realize that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily think when he was I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to try and speak for Sean Oliver. I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>the guy fully, but I mean when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the boxing analogy, and necessarily the NFL analogy, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily think that he was talking about the at home fans,

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<v Speaker 1>But what about the casual fans, So there are casual

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<v Speaker 1>fans that will watch those games and pick aside. And

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<v Speaker 1>how do they pick aside? If you have no dog

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<v Speaker 1>in that fight, if you don't belong to Detroit or Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you pick which one that you want to

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<v Speaker 1>win the NFC Championship?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, at that point you're rooting, you're watching a game.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you just watching a game for the sake of

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<v Speaker 1>watching a game? Or are you investing in one side

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<v Speaker 1>of a team? And I'm not talking about the betters, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously their money is where their passions lie. But for

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<v Speaker 1>the people that aren't betting, for the casual viewers, how

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<v Speaker 1>do they do it? How do casual viewers view and

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy a boxing match if there is no civic interest,

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<v Speaker 1>if there is no geographical loyalty to one team or another.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, well, dude, this is this is probably

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<v Speaker 2>a good example of this. Right. I'm going to Vegas

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<v Speaker 2>for Christmas around that time, right, and at their stadium,

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<v Speaker 2>which I didn't go to because I you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't going to go to WrestleMania. And every time that

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<v Speaker 2>I've been out there, it's been during the summer, so

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<v Speaker 2>nothing's happening there. I'm gonna catch a game between the

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<v Speaker 2>Raiders and the Titans. It's fucking Tank Bowl, dude. But

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<v Speaker 2>the tickets online for it already are under one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>dollars right in this big, beautiful new stadium the week

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<v Speaker 2>of Christmas, where you think to yourself, it's probably going

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<v Speaker 2>to be more expensive because people are going to be bringing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, relatives into town and hey, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>take you to the game. But people know that both

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<v Speaker 2>of these fucking teams stink. So when I go to it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, all right, Like you said, who am

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<v Speaker 2>I going to root for for this? Which seem do

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<v Speaker 2>I think is going to win? And I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I just watched the whole Netflix series on quarterback if

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<v Speaker 2>in the you know, the quarterback for the Titan seems

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<v Speaker 2>like a good kid, so I'm going to root for him. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>just okay, all right, But that's what I'm saying. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I watched the TV show and like I got an idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at it, right, I figured most people

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<v Speaker 1>would have watched how they've done over the year. Most

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<v Speaker 1>people would have paid attention to how they got to

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<v Speaker 1>that to that game they would have paid attention to

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<v Speaker 1>their season. They would have looked at their athletes, the

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<v Speaker 1>would have looked at their big plays, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>would have made a decision based on the way they

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<v Speaker 1>feel from that, not because somebody was in a fucking

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<v Speaker 1>tuna fish commercial or some shit and they fucking made

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<v Speaker 1>them laugh. Like I mean, I guess, I guess that's

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<v Speaker 1>a reason as far as any other. I just thought

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<v Speaker 2>You know, well that their seasons, both of these teams individually,

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<v Speaker 2>their seasons are of no consequence to me as a

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<v Speaker 2>New England fan. But there's really it doesn't play into

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<v Speaker 2>anything Scott's saying that it's too much research.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, you go to you watch any of these games,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the playoffs and stuff, they give you an

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<v Speaker 1>hour documentary before the game even starts on both teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they really. I mean, it's not like the.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineties and the eighties where it's like, oh, game starts

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<v Speaker 1>at twelve, good luck, motherfucker, and it's like, who are

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<v Speaker 1>these people now?

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<v Speaker 2>They now they give.

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<v Speaker 1>You backgrounds and personal stories and all you know, his

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<v Speaker 1>Grandma's going to be at the game. It's their first

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<v Speaker 1>game to see him since he was in college. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's just tons of this conjecture and so

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, I can understand making up your your feelings

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<v Speaker 1>based upon the history of one team or another from

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<v Speaker 1>what you watched before the game. It's just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I thought it was going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more well thought out and boxing same same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure a lot of other combat sports can fall

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<v Speaker 1>in that too, you know, with UFC and such.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, this is this also once again goes back

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<v Speaker 2>to them showing video packages and explaining to people and

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<v Speaker 2>all that shit that's wrestling stuff. That's all what like

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<v Speaker 2>once again, like when people are like, oh, where do

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<v Speaker 2>they get this idea from? How does this happen? It's

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<v Speaker 2>fucking wrestling. When you're watching shit even like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to bring it up, you're watching political shit,

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<v Speaker 2>it's wrestling theater. A lot of it is that now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all shit that if you put a fucking Titan

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<v Speaker 2>tron behind you'd be like, all right, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, people at Entrance Music, you'd be like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. I see what you're going for. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>so when wrestling like this has always been a frustrating

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<v Speaker 2>thing for me. And aside from that little reprieve that

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<v Speaker 2>we got that in between time with you know, Cody

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, WWE heating up a little get a

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<v Speaker 2>bit a bit again for those two years when Vince

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<v Speaker 2>left for a bit. You know, I still think Vince

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<v Speaker 2>might be somewhat involved, but that's my own little conspiracy theory.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's because that was a time where wrestling was

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<v Speaker 2>doing the shit that it did well and didn't just

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<v Speaker 2>let everyone steal all their shit, and then they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>use it, do you know what I mean? Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>like you they invented all this stuff, or they incorporated

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<v Speaker 2>it into their own business, and then over time, Vince

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<v Speaker 2>McMahon and advertisers and the people involved in it, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Stephanie, let's be real, they were all like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>let's not use that. And then all these other plates,

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<v Speaker 2>like the UFC was like, fuck it, we'll use it,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll take it, We'll do all your shit, and all

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<v Speaker 2>like other places used all of the wrestling fucking tropes

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<v Speaker 2>and their business models and their promotional tactics, and ww

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<v Speaker 2>WE was like, no, we don't need that, No, thanks, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't want any of that. And now they're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of back to that shit again, right, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>the weirdo corporatization, the overly corporate fucking mess. And you're right, like,

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<v Speaker 2>this has been a week for a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>old timers saying shit and putting it in its place.

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<v Speaker 2>Stevie Richards this week he was even saying on his show,

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, yeah, the Roman reigns and Seth Ronald

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<v Speaker 2>saying I don't get it. I'm like, thank god, thank god,

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<v Speaker 2>people are finally starting to save the shit once again

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<v Speaker 2>that we've said for ten years. It's nice.

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<v Speaker 1>RVD went on. RVD, of all people who I thought

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<v Speaker 1>would be a huge proponent for a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>flippy guys and stuff, kind of kind of came out

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<v Speaker 1>about it him. He was on us and he's Salcido's show,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, you know, when I see a move

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and I guess he was talking about like

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<v Speaker 1>a flipping plancha or whatever the fuck it was high

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<v Speaker 1>dive to a cannonball. I see a move like that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm impressed and I think, holy crap, that's great moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Take your bower, connect with the crowd. There are so

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<v Speaker 1>many gymnasts now that are taking it to a whole

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<v Speaker 1>different level, doing one and a half or a double

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<v Speaker 1>shooting star press with a twist and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing and I love seeing that. But for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's too much of seeing everybody do everyone else's moves.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like there have to be three rkos in

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<v Speaker 1>every single match and two Oklahoma Destroyers or whatever that

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<v Speaker 1>one move is called. It just seems like that move

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<v Speaker 1>isn't even special anymore, and the people still pop and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why they do it, because they're just going for

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<v Speaker 1>the pop now. But for me, when I see it,

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<v Speaker 1>just because of my position in the business, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not looking at it as a fan because I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't strike a happy chord with me. It's like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the eighth one I've seen tonight. How can someone

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<v Speaker 1>ever have that as a finishing move if every single

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<v Speaker 1>person on the card does it?

415
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, that's what I mean. This all is basic

416
00:23:58.799 --> 00:24:04.279
<v Speaker 2>shit at RVD saying this to people out loud.

417
00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:07.960
<v Speaker 1>About flying moves too, that's what's mind blowing. I mean,

418
00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:11.759
<v Speaker 1>here's a guy who who inspired probably a majority of

419
00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:16.519
<v Speaker 1>these people out there today, and he's someone saying, you

420
00:24:16.519 --> 00:24:18.599
<v Speaker 1>guys got to ease off the gas a little bit.

421
00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:21.839
<v Speaker 2>But the funny thing is is if you go back

422
00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:26.240
<v Speaker 2>and watch Rob Van Dam and Jerry Lynn right a

423
00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:29.920
<v Speaker 2>match that was considered a spot fester series of matches,

424
00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:33.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's what they were called by the purists

425
00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:37.039
<v Speaker 2>in the late nineties and early two thousands. There's like

426
00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:45.039
<v Speaker 2>maybe one dive or two to the outside and if that,

427
00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:50.279
<v Speaker 2>and there are big moments in the match about changing

428
00:24:50.359 --> 00:24:52.640
<v Speaker 2>the tie and the speed and the pace of the

429
00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:55.279
<v Speaker 2>match and who's in control of it and the direction

430
00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:58.720
<v Speaker 2>of it. So when he's like, you know, oh, I

431
00:24:58.799 --> 00:25:01.960
<v Speaker 2>inspired all these high flying people and then he watches

432
00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:04.359
<v Speaker 2>them do it and they're just like bing bing bing

433
00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:06.200
<v Speaker 2>bing bing bing bing bing bing bing big big bing

434
00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:10.240
<v Speaker 2>bing bing, Like to him, that's whoa what the fuck? Right? Right?

435
00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:13.839
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? Like I could completely see

436
00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:18.519
<v Speaker 2>that and have him go, wait a second, do you

437
00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:21.599
<v Speaker 2>know how much like I think about like the RVD

438
00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:27.720
<v Speaker 2>giant fucking flipping Blanche on the outside to bam bam bigelow,

439
00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:30.799
<v Speaker 2>just that shot, that crazy wide shot that was all

440
00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:36.759
<v Speaker 2>over television for Easter w for years now. Fucking guy

441
00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:39.400
<v Speaker 2>would do that, stand back up, go over and do

442
00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:44.000
<v Speaker 2>it again right now? He'd be like he did that once.

443
00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:46.759
<v Speaker 2>I gotta keep doing it. That's what happened.

444
00:25:46.920 --> 00:25:49.079
<v Speaker 1>Keep putting this on the wrestlers or do we put

445
00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:52.119
<v Speaker 1>this on like I don't know the staff that are

446
00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:55.880
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be in control of these matches to them,

447
00:25:56.359 --> 00:25:59.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, shouldn't they should be putting these matches together?

448
00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:02.279
<v Speaker 1>But like, shouldn't you have people like an RVD going

449
00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ? Derby, how about you? How about you not

450
00:26:05.519 --> 00:26:06.680
<v Speaker 1>do twelve of those tonight?

451
00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:11.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean that we've known this for closer to

452
00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:15.720
<v Speaker 2>a decade now. That's Aw's whole thing is more and more.

453
00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so if it happens in AW, it's not like

454
00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:21.680
<v Speaker 1>they can go anywhere else and do the same stick.

455
00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:26.519
<v Speaker 2>Right pretty much? Yeah, I mean that's okay. Yeah, well no, no,

456
00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:28.880
<v Speaker 2>but I'm saying like they could go on y indies

457
00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:29.400
<v Speaker 2>and stuff.

458
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:33.400
<v Speaker 1>But ww yeah, I guess if they're going to a

459
00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:36.680
<v Speaker 1>garden show, sure, yeah, it doesn't matter. I don't mean MSG,

460
00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:39.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean Nana's garden. But but if they were to

461
00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:42.400
<v Speaker 1>like Triple A or something like, would they be able

462
00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:45.119
<v Speaker 1>to be would Darby Allen be able to Darby Allen

463
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:46.079
<v Speaker 1>all Over triple A.

464
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:51.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Probably, but also at the same time, you're also

465
00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:54.920
<v Speaker 2>talking about a form of wrestling that is very you know,

466
00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:59.680
<v Speaker 2>high flying and crazy. Well what's his name? Fucking Vikingo Bajingo?

467
00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:04.400
<v Speaker 2>That what he fucking did? Remember him before he he

468
00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:08.519
<v Speaker 2>got Yeah, he got hurt. Can you believe it? Yeah?

469
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:18.160
<v Speaker 2>It's big. Yeah, I lost my smile. I lost it. No,

470
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:21.839
<v Speaker 2>no smile, uh no, But that's he got fucking hurt. Well,

471
00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:25.599
<v Speaker 2>like no ship Like it sucks. I feel bad for

472
00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:27.480
<v Speaker 2>the guy because I think he screwed up his name.

473
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:30.880
<v Speaker 2>But it's like, you know, someone falls out of a

474
00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:34.400
<v Speaker 2>canoe and hits water. Duh. It's it's seemingly inevitable for

475
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:36.440
<v Speaker 2>the way that that guy did all of the ship.

476
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:42.000
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, outside of moving away from the aw style

477
00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:45.640
<v Speaker 2>of wrestling, the main events of w WE at this

478
00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:51.640
<v Speaker 2>point it's just spamming finishers. It's not even man.

479
00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, you know what, the one thing I

480
00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:58.240
<v Speaker 1>will give graces on ae W four, even with their

481
00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:03.240
<v Speaker 1>their silly spotfest man matches, is that at least at

482
00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:09.480
<v Speaker 1>least it's enough of a difference where they bombard you

483
00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:14.720
<v Speaker 1>with sheer amounts right, there's just a since there's just

484
00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:20.240
<v Speaker 1>an insane level of moves happening in a match in

485
00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>aw With WWE, it feels like a lot of them

486
00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:28.400
<v Speaker 1>are wrestling the exact same match and I don't mean

487
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:33.440
<v Speaker 1>necessarily the same as each other, although sometimes, but the

488
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:36.359
<v Speaker 1>same match that they had last week and the week

489
00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:40.119
<v Speaker 1>prior and the week prior to that, and it feels

490
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:44.079
<v Speaker 1>like they've almost fallen into their own I guess they

491
00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>just their own niche of a style of wrestling that

492
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:52.720
<v Speaker 1>they don't even evolve from, if anything, they've devolved. Look

493
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>at guys, and I hate to bring them up, but

494
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:59.119
<v Speaker 1>I used to really really cheer for the guy Damien Priest,

495
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:02.480
<v Speaker 1>a very innative cat. When he first came in, obviously

496
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:05.400
<v Speaker 1>with the bad Bunny stuff and the early Judgment day stuff,

497
00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:08.759
<v Speaker 1>he was trying to at least put personality in his moves.

498
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Now it's just generic Big Guy number three.

499
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:16.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's just and and you don't you don't

500
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:18.960
<v Speaker 2>ever want to say to somebody, I understand why you're

501
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:22.440
<v Speaker 2>not trying at your job, but you do really just

502
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:25.839
<v Speaker 2>playing sometimes, especially in wrestling, with the way that it

503
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:28.839
<v Speaker 2>does beat people down. Man, it does make you fucking

504
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:30.200
<v Speaker 2>tired like you just is.

505
00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:34.359
<v Speaker 1>He's tired and injured. I mean, because that's another thing

506
00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:36.880
<v Speaker 1>that's been happening a lot more on WWE too.

507
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Physically and mentally probably, I mean, and and let's not

508
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:46.480
<v Speaker 2>also let's also not forget for some people get paid

509
00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:50.359
<v Speaker 2>for a few years and you're looking at your bank account.

510
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:53.519
<v Speaker 2>He's saying to yourself, Oh, so I can get away

511
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:56.599
<v Speaker 2>with this amount of work and they're just gonna keep

512
00:29:56.599 --> 00:29:59.839
<v Speaker 2>on paying menush, No, they won't.

513
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:03.079
<v Speaker 1>The fucking t K will pull you up tomorrow and go, hey, uh,

514
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>we noticed you're not wrestling as much. Would you take

515
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>half of the contract.

516
00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:11.079
<v Speaker 2>But if you're Damian Priest and they signed you, let's say,

517
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:13.720
<v Speaker 2>to a million dollar fucking contract or a seven hundred

518
00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:17.720
<v Speaker 2>fifty thousand dollars contract, you might look at him and say, sure, boss,

519
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:21.759
<v Speaker 2>and then you don't do anything, you know what I mean? Like,

520
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:24.519
<v Speaker 2>which that's it is, like you got to think about

521
00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:27.599
<v Speaker 2>the mindset of some of these people. Damian Priest was

522
00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:31.640
<v Speaker 2>like a fucking fat por Puerto Rican kid from the Bronx,

523
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:34.519
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, oh man, we're really gonna put the

524
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:36.119
<v Speaker 2>boots to you and only pay you three hundred and

525
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:39.640
<v Speaker 2>fifty thousand dollars a year, and he's like, oh, no,

526
00:30:39.880 --> 00:30:44.200
<v Speaker 2>more time with more time with my smoking hot Cuban

527
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:47.119
<v Speaker 2>girlfriend than I make three hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year.

528
00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh this fucking stinks. Oh what a shit life. And

529
00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:53.519
<v Speaker 2>it's like this, most of the people this guy probably knows

530
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:56.920
<v Speaker 2>in his personal life work at a fucking tea mobile,

531
00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:02.920
<v Speaker 2>work at the bank, or security guards at the fucking wherever.

532
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:06.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, like he's probably looking at it going what

533
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:09.480
<v Speaker 2>a life. And yeah, he probably came in like hell yeah,

534
00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:13.240
<v Speaker 2>guns and blazing, doing creative shit, coming up with new ideas.

535
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:15.720
<v Speaker 2>He got a big ass push and then they were

536
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:19.079
<v Speaker 2>like they they forgot about Dre and he was like,

537
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:20.920
<v Speaker 2>all right, you want to forget about Drey, I'm just

538
00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:23.319
<v Speaker 2>gonna be over here making beats by myself.

539
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:25.039
<v Speaker 1>And I know five is right. He's saying that he's

540
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:26.960
<v Speaker 1>been taking a lot of side jobs as well. He's

541
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:29.599
<v Speaker 1>in the new Marvel Rivals characters coming out tomorrow, So

542
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean really, but I mean that's just another one

543
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:36.960
<v Speaker 1>of those things, right, Like that's more just TKO marketing,

544
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>that's more just WWE marketing. How much does he have

545
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:47.799
<v Speaker 1>how well is he involved in Marvel Rifles. You know,

546
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>it's not next time. It's not like he's doing the

547
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.519
<v Speaker 1>Cody or the Roman thing where they have to be

548
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>on screen and somebody has to like do Cody's hair

549
00:31:57.279 --> 00:31:58.160
<v Speaker 1>for two hours.

550
00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:03.319
<v Speaker 2>You know it. Work is work, work is work, right,

551
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:05.960
<v Speaker 2>And dude, you know this as well as I do.

552
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:08.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean obviously, and you clearly have the much better

553
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:11.640
<v Speaker 2>voice for it. Like imagine getting into something and they

554
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:13.680
<v Speaker 2>were like, hey, you want to voice this character on

555
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:17.160
<v Speaker 2>this thing? Fuck, yeah, sounds good to me. Whatever.

556
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I had a couple options back in the day when

557
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:23.359
<v Speaker 1>when Steam was a little less populated, there were there

558
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:25.759
<v Speaker 1>were a little video game indie companies that were looking

559
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:29.480
<v Speaker 1>for voices and ship I actually tried for the Warhammer

560
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:32.000
<v Speaker 1>series back in the day, but I lost out to

561
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:33.480
<v Speaker 1>a smoking hobby So.

562
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's well, come on now could I couldn't blame them,

563
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:43.000
<v Speaker 2>but you know, yeah, come on now, it's the fucking

564
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Patrick sways just finally, fucking Chip and why would you

565
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:51.640
<v Speaker 2>pick down? But you're a much better dancer. But that's like, dude.

566
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:55.759
<v Speaker 2>Also at the same time, yeah, if you can get

567
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:59.519
<v Speaker 2>in and get any sort of relation whatsoever, and you know,

568
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:02.519
<v Speaker 2>find the gig, find a spot. A lot of guys

569
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:04.880
<v Speaker 2>are making money, and I'm probably I always feel like

570
00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:08.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying this wrong. The mo cab whatever it is

571
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:11.279
<v Speaker 2>for the video games, is that what it's called. Like

572
00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:14.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot of those dudes, the old WWF fucking guys,

573
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy Wang Gang and Brian Myers and those dudes, they

574
00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:21.799
<v Speaker 2>were making themselves a nice little penny off. Hey, I

575
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:23.319
<v Speaker 2>don't even got to wrestle. I just got to come

576
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:26.759
<v Speaker 2>in here and do a put on this weird fucking

577
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:29.759
<v Speaker 2>suit with light bulbs and do fake power bombs. All right,

578
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:33.759
<v Speaker 2>I can better do that. Yeah, there's always something that

579
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:37.799
<v Speaker 2>you can find spun off of the world of WWE now,

580
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:41.039
<v Speaker 2>but you have to actually either be very lucky or

581
00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:44.759
<v Speaker 2>very talented, you know. But that's it is, Like there's

582
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:46.559
<v Speaker 2>a lot of those people that are gonna come and

583
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:49.519
<v Speaker 2>go or they're gonna get this big level of success.

584
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:52.599
<v Speaker 2>But once again, it's all gonna come back to the

585
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Samoans and Seth. It's gonna always come back to the

586
00:33:57.480 --> 00:33:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Samoans and Seth. Oh.

587
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, the high flying moods. I'm pretty sure

588
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:03.759
<v Speaker 1>that they're not doing well.

589
00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:05.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean the money and the jobs. The money and

590
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:07.599
<v Speaker 2>the job is going to come back to them. But

591
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:11.400
<v Speaker 2>the high flying shit, like like when Rob van Dam

592
00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:13.519
<v Speaker 2>has to lect you and say, you guys are doing

593
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:17.119
<v Speaker 2>a little too much, Like, well, that was Rob van

594
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:19.639
<v Speaker 2>Dam's whole thing. People told him for years, you know,

595
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:23.159
<v Speaker 2>you're a wild and crazy guy. And I'm sure the

596
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:26.119
<v Speaker 2>guys that are who are now my age would still

597
00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:33.679
<v Speaker 2>say this thing. The business evolves main it's it's grown dude.

598
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:38.960
<v Speaker 2>It's like it's grown into what a fucking a vehicle

599
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:42.280
<v Speaker 2>for people to put ads over and some random rich

600
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:45.599
<v Speaker 2>kid to live out its fucking autistic fantasies. It's all

601
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:46.519
<v Speaker 2>that's what it's grown up.

602
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:50.719
<v Speaker 1>It's not all negative. The evolution of wrestling isn't It's necessary.

603
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:54.039
<v Speaker 1>The evolution of everything is necessary in order to prevent

604
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 1>it from complete death. I think that I just wish

605
00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:00.679
<v Speaker 1>there was a little bit more of an attachment to

606
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:03.800
<v Speaker 1>the way things used to be as opposed to the

607
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:06.840
<v Speaker 1>way they are now. It's almost like the fuck you

608
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:10.760
<v Speaker 1>has gotten boring. Like the fuck you was really popular

609
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:13.559
<v Speaker 1>in the two thousands with your your high flying and

610
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:16.639
<v Speaker 1>your death matches and shit, the fuck you was real popular.

611
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:20.079
<v Speaker 1>It was like, ah, you like that eighties shit, fuck you,

612
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:23.199
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go jump off a building. I'm sick, Nick Mondo,

613
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:26.039
<v Speaker 1>fuck you. It's like, okay, great, and that was fun

614
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>to launch for a little while. But it's like the

615
00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>evolution of that has turned into what we see today,

616
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:35.719
<v Speaker 1>and it almost feels like there's not much left from

617
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:39.800
<v Speaker 1>that eighties mentality, that nineties mentality of wrestling. So I'm

618
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:42.320
<v Speaker 1>not against the idea of the evolution of wrestling. I

619
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:44.760
<v Speaker 1>just I guess I just wish they held on to

620
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:46.280
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more than they did.

621
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean it's too People will tell you

622
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:55.679
<v Speaker 2>everything's a circle, right, everything is cyclical, you know, like, okay, sure,

623
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:58.760
<v Speaker 2>fair enough. But then what you can also remember is, yeah,

624
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:02.639
<v Speaker 2>everything's a circle. But some times also things just fucking die.

625
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:06.000
<v Speaker 2>They just go away and you never hear about him again,

626
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:08.760
<v Speaker 2>and you don't even think about it, and you go, humhm.

627
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Someone mentions it to you and you go, oh, yeah,

628
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I didn't, I didn't even think of that. That's that's

629
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:18.599
<v Speaker 2>pretty crazy. And that's one of the scarier things about wrestling,

630
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:21.280
<v Speaker 2>is it sure feels like you're saying here, there were

631
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:26.079
<v Speaker 2>a lot of things that were synonymous with wrestling. That

632
00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:30.639
<v Speaker 2>just they're just gone, and we don't know where they went,

633
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:32.760
<v Speaker 2>and we don't know if anybody's going to try to

634
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:35.639
<v Speaker 2>bring them back, and we don't know if anyone's gonna

635
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:40.320
<v Speaker 2>even bother to. Earlier today, I was talking to a

636
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:43.719
<v Speaker 2>buddy of mine who I graduated from, or graduated from,

637
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:48.159
<v Speaker 2>graduated with, not graduated from, but he was telling me,

638
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:52.519
<v Speaker 2>He's like, do you remember that fucking remember Nelly? Remember

639
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:57.599
<v Speaker 2>the rapper Nelly? Nelly sold I think it was something

640
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:03.000
<v Speaker 2>like sixteen million records because in my senior year of

641
00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:06.519
<v Speaker 2>high school, he had like a fucking stranglehold on music,

642
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:09.599
<v Speaker 2>like everywhere you went. That's like that summer of me

643
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:15.119
<v Speaker 2>being a senior, that album and his songs were everywhere. Now,

644
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:18.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that guy could sell out a fucking Arby's.

645
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:25.840
<v Speaker 2>So sometimes things get gigantic and then they just disappear.

646
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:29.400
<v Speaker 2>And with wrestling, yeah, you look at it and you go,

647
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:32.840
<v Speaker 2>what about all these tropes and these characters and these

648
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:35.320
<v Speaker 2>things that were successful, and he used to be people

649
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:37.760
<v Speaker 2>would pick and choose and steal from them and evolve

650
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:41.480
<v Speaker 2>and make different characters from it. I don't even think

651
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:46.400
<v Speaker 2>that's happening any It's just we find something or the

652
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:50.280
<v Speaker 2>corporal fucking mindset find something they like, and they run

653
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:55.719
<v Speaker 2>that person deep into the fucking ground until I don't.

654
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:57.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it ever fucking stops for some of

655
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:01.880
<v Speaker 2>these dudes. I think I seen I had to legitimately

656
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:08.559
<v Speaker 2>escape in the night. It almost feels like that he

657
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:11.559
<v Speaker 2>would still be on that if he did not say

658
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:14.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to wrestle anymore. Even in his fucking

659
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:19.159
<v Speaker 2>beat ass state, they still have him on television. Well

660
00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:19.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, you.

661
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Talk about that, and I mean, I may as well

662
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:24.239
<v Speaker 1>talk about the other retirement that we haven't really given

663
00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:27.920
<v Speaker 1>too much of attention to. But brock Lesnar was officially

664
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:31.239
<v Speaker 1>uh put on his wrestling tight for the last time,

665
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:35.079
<v Speaker 1>and he was on pat show earlier in the week.

666
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:37.199
<v Speaker 1>He said, you know, I'm here today to do this

667
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:41.079
<v Speaker 1>interview to let the world everybody know that I am retired,

668
00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:43.480
<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to say a big thank you to everybody.

669
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:47.519
<v Speaker 1>When Oba slammed me at WrestleMania, I was like, I

670
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:51.119
<v Speaker 1>cannot do this again. I think I'm done, and I

671
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:53.800
<v Speaker 1>still had some left in the tank. But Saturday, for

672
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:56.159
<v Speaker 1>brock Lesner, that's it. That's it for me in the

673
00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:58.880
<v Speaker 1>squared circle. I just want to give him a shout

674
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>out to everybody in the universe. It's followed me since

675
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:03.239
<v Speaker 1>I was a little kid, all the way until Saturday.

676
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:05.199
<v Speaker 1>I was just a farm kid from South Dakota with

677
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:07.559
<v Speaker 1>a big dream, the big heart, and a big ass

678
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:09.639
<v Speaker 1>chip on my shoulder. And I'm just grateful, grateful to

679
00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:12.000
<v Speaker 1>be forty nine years old and have been able to

680
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:13.840
<v Speaker 1>do what I did in this lifetime. And thank God

681
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:16.280
<v Speaker 1>everybody that supported me. I want to thank my coaches.

682
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to think especially to say the little kid,

683
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I was just a farm a farm kid with a

684
00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>bunch of lints in my pocket, and I had big

685
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:26.119
<v Speaker 1>dreams and I just worked. I think a lot of

686
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:30.400
<v Speaker 1>people nowadays with social media platforms athletes for doing things

687
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:32.320
<v Speaker 1>that they don't leave out the hard work.

688
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:33.480
<v Speaker 2>It's just kids.

689
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:36.039
<v Speaker 1>Stay focused on work and putting the time in and

690
00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:38.880
<v Speaker 1>good things will have And as far as the future,

691
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I just want to heal up and relax.

692
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:44.800
<v Speaker 2>So I like, shit, he's riches.

693
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:48.840
<v Speaker 1>You go home and relax, dude, you go step up

694
00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:51.719
<v Speaker 1>my tie. But I mean there's another one. You're talking

695
00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:57.719
<v Speaker 1>about retirement, right, and obviously John Cena, they man, and

696
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:00.239
<v Speaker 1>they tried to give John sena the big fairweay wow,

697
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:03.800
<v Speaker 1>they did, and WWE failed on it on multiple levels.

698
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:05.960
<v Speaker 2>We go back to the weird.

699
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:10.639
<v Speaker 1>Heel turn and everything with the Travis, etc. Like all

700
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:12.960
<v Speaker 1>of that kind of fell apart, and then they fixed

701
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:16.280
<v Speaker 1>it at the last minute, and it just seemed like

702
00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:18.199
<v Speaker 1>it was a problem, you know, like the way that

703
00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:22.400
<v Speaker 1>John Cena finally retired out was a long time coming,

704
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and it felt like WWE made mistakes at every single

705
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:29.079
<v Speaker 1>point of doing it. I know you were saying that

706
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:31.519
<v Speaker 1>he's leaving like a thief in the night. Dude, he

707
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:34.440
<v Speaker 1>left like a fucking trunk Santa Claus out the front door.

708
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:38.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, It's just it was the exact opposite in

709
00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:41.440
<v Speaker 1>my mind. But here you have brock Lesner. Brock Lesner,

710
00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:44.960
<v Speaker 1>another guy that you would have expected WW to suck

711
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:47.719
<v Speaker 1>his dick for years, talking about this is going to

712
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:50.960
<v Speaker 1>be his last man, Jesus Christ. Paul Hayman is his

713
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Lord and fucking speaker or whatever he says. Goddamn Barker.

714
00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:57.599
<v Speaker 1>And they really kept this on the downlow. And I

715
00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.679
<v Speaker 1>know that he technically retired at Russell, but they brought

716
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:03.480
<v Speaker 1>him back in because he's still had contract dates to fulfill,

717
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:04.920
<v Speaker 1>which seemed like.

718
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:05.800
<v Speaker 2>A bullshit move.

719
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Just just give him the freebies, let him, let him walk.

720
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:10.840
<v Speaker 1>But they didn't. They wanted him to do this at

721
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Summer Slam, and that's fine, but I felt like this

722
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:16.360
<v Speaker 1>is another one of those cases that I don't think

723
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:18.880
<v Speaker 1>anybody was even certain that brock Lesni was going to

724
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:22.760
<v Speaker 1>retire at Summer Slam. I'm still in a weird state, Joe.

725
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:25.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I believe him that he's retired.

726
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:29.679
<v Speaker 2>I think the obviously we're seeing it in the chat.

727
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Dasadi's are probably gonna off from the bag and he's

728
00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:37.079
<v Speaker 2>gonna he's gonna struggle to decide to take it or

729
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:41.400
<v Speaker 2>not or whatever. I mean. I I still think that

730
00:41:41.800 --> 00:41:46.119
<v Speaker 2>had they even made an effort to build up a

731
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:50.079
<v Speaker 2>lot of different guys beforehand, they could have had brock

732
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:54.000
<v Speaker 2>do a couple of tag matches and retired him that

733
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:56.719
<v Speaker 2>way or something along those lines. And I know somebody

734
00:41:56.760 --> 00:42:00.800
<v Speaker 2>would say, that's crazy, You're gonna have brock Lesnar retired. Well,

735
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:04.760
<v Speaker 2>brock Lessners doesn't fucking wrestle tag matches, so that at

736
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:08.559
<v Speaker 2>least makes it unique, you know, like whatever, it might be.

737
00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Now with that said, if I found out that Thesadi said, hey, Oba,

738
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:20.559
<v Speaker 2>Femi and brock Lesner are gonna team to be, I

739
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.440
<v Speaker 2>don't know whoever the fuck has no chance in that match, right,

740
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:26.119
<v Speaker 2>Like I would say, all right, I could see them

741
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:28.599
<v Speaker 2>paying him a big bucket of fucking money to do that,

742
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:32.880
<v Speaker 2>and it probably wouldn't be a terrible way for him

743
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:36.320
<v Speaker 2>to go. And but it's still very strange to me now.

744
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:39.639
<v Speaker 2>And it's why I also can see why you would think, hey,

745
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:43.280
<v Speaker 2>he might come back. Wwe could have thrown a step

746
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:46.199
<v Speaker 2>on this and had it been you know, h yeah,

747
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:49.400
<v Speaker 2>you want to wrestle the Oba again or whatever, blah

748
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:52.400
<v Speaker 2>blah blah, brock Lesner, you know, if I lose Oba

749
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:55.400
<v Speaker 2>can I'll fuck it, never wrestle again or whatever. But

750
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:58.679
<v Speaker 2>they're never gonna do something like that, because like we're saying,

751
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:01.679
<v Speaker 2>what if Prince Sali Boba says I'm going to give

752
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:04.800
<v Speaker 2>him fucking three million dollars to wrestle for three minutes,

753
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:07.960
<v Speaker 2>He's got to show up and wrestle for three minutes?

754
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:11.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but would that even matter? It doesn't it feel

755
00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:13.000
<v Speaker 1>like that. Let me ask you this too, and I

756
00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:16.559
<v Speaker 1>guess This kind of goes to the storyline aspect of WWE.

757
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:21.679
<v Speaker 1>But when Vince McMahon was gone and Triple H took over,

758
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't it kind of feel like all the old rules

759
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:29.000
<v Speaker 1>applied by Vince McMahon were no longer applied underneath the

760
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Triple H regime. And now that we're underneath the Triple

761
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:36.519
<v Speaker 1>H regime or arguably the TKO regime. If Saudi Arabia

762
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:39.960
<v Speaker 1>when they do buy WWE, do you think that the

763
00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:43.000
<v Speaker 1>fans will pay attention to the rules set by the

764
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Triple HTKO regime underneath Saudi Arabia's rules or do you

765
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:50.199
<v Speaker 1>think it'll just be clean as slate? You want to

766
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:53.559
<v Speaker 1>bring Brockleisner back, No problem, We understand it's money.

767
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:57.599
<v Speaker 2>I think the fans know that at this point too.

768
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:03.079
<v Speaker 2>And the people that are left watching WWE, let's be

769
00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:07.320
<v Speaker 2>let's be real, all right, WWE can just pry their

770
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:09.960
<v Speaker 2>mouth open and pissing it and they'll say, thank you, Sarah,

771
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:14.639
<v Speaker 2>can I have another We've gathered? That's who it's left.

772
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:20.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, the whole thing with Bischoff and uh Conrad

773
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:24.280
<v Speaker 2>and them saying the whole spiel about Roman rate. John

774
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:26.679
<v Speaker 2>sent me a message He's like, I'm taking a fucking

775
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:30.079
<v Speaker 2>bath on Twitter because I reposted that and was like,

776
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:32.639
<v Speaker 2>well yeah, basically like he was just agreeing with them,

777
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:34.760
<v Speaker 2>and I said to him, I go, well, yeah, man,

778
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I go, who do you think is fucking left? The

779
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:40.400
<v Speaker 2>people that are left for wrestling fans on Twitter? Still

780
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:43.360
<v Speaker 2>talking to ship, You're gonna end up with the really

781
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:47.280
<v Speaker 2>cuckoo crazy a W people and the really cuckoo crazy

782
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:53.760
<v Speaker 2>w W pop. Yeah extremists, it really is, yes, Like,

783
00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:57.320
<v Speaker 2>do you think there's just regular people. There's probably people

784
00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:02.599
<v Speaker 2>lurking and reading. Maybe there's some normal fans that are

785
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:06.239
<v Speaker 2>like you ruh Bailey who are like you look you

786
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:10.480
<v Speaker 2>look hot, so and so there's probably those people, some

787
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:13.840
<v Speaker 2>of them. But the people that are having like discourse,

788
00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:18.400
<v Speaker 2>do you think they're fucking normal human beings anymore that

789
00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:22.360
<v Speaker 2>are really into big ideas or different point of view?

790
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:25.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess I'd like to think that people

791
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:28.920
<v Speaker 1>aren't that fucking pig headed, that they can at least

792
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:33.039
<v Speaker 1>enjoy different avenues of their own products, you know. But no,

793
00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I but you also know there's like a lot of

794
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:40.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, fucking fake keyboard warriors too, people that say

795
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:43.840
<v Speaker 1>shit that they don't mean. You know, they call hard

796
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:46.800
<v Speaker 1>asses on Twitter, but in the real world, if you

797
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:49.559
<v Speaker 1>were to confront them, it would be a completely different story,

798
00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:52.599
<v Speaker 1>or at least it'd be a lot more malleable. You know,

799
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:55.320
<v Speaker 1>it'd be a lot easier to converse with somebody or

800
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:58.239
<v Speaker 1>disagree with them in person as opposed to on Twitter

801
00:45:58.519 --> 00:45:59.280
<v Speaker 1>or acts.

802
00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, believe me. I don't think there's any true

803
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:07.719
<v Speaker 2>blue Roman rangee hottis that are I mean, are showing

804
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:09.800
<v Speaker 2>up to your house with a knife and a bomb,

805
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:19.440
<v Speaker 2>because heys, they're just they're just waiting at your door

806
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:22.199
<v Speaker 2>with one of those strangers masks and a fucking chili

807
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:26.760
<v Speaker 2>pepper follen necklace, just like just a giant black circle

808
00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:28.880
<v Speaker 2>with a clock on it, one of those fucking nineteen

809
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:35.519
<v Speaker 2>fifties alarm clocks. I heard that you said something bad

810
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:38.679
<v Speaker 2>about the Boogeyman on Twitter. I'm here to I'm here

811
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:42.159
<v Speaker 2>to get you like, oh my god, oh god.

812
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:46.239
<v Speaker 1>You know when speaking of Boogeyman, it immediately throws me

813
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:50.280
<v Speaker 1>to did you see Malachi Black's new look? Oh no,

814
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:54.199
<v Speaker 1>he shaved it. He shaved it off, he got rid

815
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:56.480
<v Speaker 1>of the hair, he gave it up. Yeah, he actually

816
00:46:56.519 --> 00:47:01.119
<v Speaker 1>means he looks like fucking Ed Norton from American History. Now, man, he's.

817
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but bro, his fucking he was starting to look

818
00:47:03.559 --> 00:47:07.559
<v Speaker 2>like Goro. It was real bad man, He's like his

819
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:11.119
<v Speaker 2>his bonytail was regressively there.

820
00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:14.639
<v Speaker 1>It is black teeth, throw it up. It was fucking

821
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:17.800
<v Speaker 1>American History us guy Ed Norton, right.

822
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:20.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean I would be I would be a little

823
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:23.280
<v Speaker 2>bit worried, uh to be in line with him if

824
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:25.559
<v Speaker 2>I was a person of color. But you know, I mean,

825
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:29.159
<v Speaker 2>that's that's what happens when you got tattoos all over

826
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:31.960
<v Speaker 2>your fucking head and ship too, and.

827
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:35.119
<v Speaker 1>What a great way to reinvent yourself too, you know,

828
00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know, I know his wife is going

829
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:42.039
<v Speaker 1>goth girl, which is a totally new avenue. Guys, nobody's

830
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.960
<v Speaker 1>ever done that before. But you know, he's he's looking

831
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:49.440
<v Speaker 1>like a fucking psychopath if he showed up in uh

832
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:50.440
<v Speaker 1>t Na.

833
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:56.760
<v Speaker 2>You know this is But you know, I at this point,

834
00:47:56.760 --> 00:47:59.079
<v Speaker 2>and I've been a fan of the guy and thought

835
00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:02.400
<v Speaker 2>he was lot better than he was ever given fucking

836
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:06.599
<v Speaker 2>a fair shake. It's got to be a personality, it

837
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:08.199
<v Speaker 2>has to be.

838
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:12.400
<v Speaker 1>And they split them. I mean, it was a personality

839
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:14.280
<v Speaker 1>point to the point that they were both working a

840
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:16.519
<v Speaker 1>different company, So what.

841
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Else can you do.

842
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:20.079
<v Speaker 1>It's not like, oh, it's a couple's thing, because we

843
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:23.199
<v Speaker 1>know the toxic couples. You know, when they're together, they're

844
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:26.639
<v Speaker 1>just fucking awful, But when they're by themselves are great.

845
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Good people love them individually, just not together.

846
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:33.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you'll you'll go out to dinner with one of them,

847
00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:37.239
<v Speaker 2>but you're not going on a vacation. You're not taking

848
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:40.519
<v Speaker 2>a weekend with them, you know what I mean exactly, Yes,

849
00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:44.880
<v Speaker 2>that sounds miserable, but I but honestly, I don't even

850
00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:49.079
<v Speaker 2>know if with her, if it's a personality thing, Like

851
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:51.400
<v Speaker 2>I know she had her whole drama when she made

852
00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:58.760
<v Speaker 2>her twitch stream or whatever and WW so long ago now,

853
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:03.480
<v Speaker 2>but it was copyright bullshit anyways, you know, Like yeah,

854
00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:07.280
<v Speaker 2>but I also think about that where the wall is

855
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:13.960
<v Speaker 2>inevitable when you're a wrestler, that her ceiling is as low,

856
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:17.360
<v Speaker 2>and it's not because she's short. She was one hundred

857
00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:22.360
<v Speaker 2>She was like one hundred pound, four foot eleven, pretty girl.

858
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:26.880
<v Speaker 2>And how many years are you going to do? Like

859
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:30.840
<v Speaker 2>wrestling is gonna find a spot for you, but it

860
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:34.519
<v Speaker 2>might not always be a spot on the biggest wrestling

861
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:38.119
<v Speaker 2>show in the world, do you know what I mean? Like,

862
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:41.440
<v Speaker 2>there's no doubt in my mind you could take a

863
00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:43.800
<v Speaker 2>girl that looks like Zeleena Vega or whatever fuck she's

864
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:47.760
<v Speaker 2>calling herself now, and she could be booked on wrestling

865
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:52.360
<v Speaker 2>shows on a Friday Saturday across this fucking country. Yeah,

866
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:53.159
<v Speaker 2>make a lot of money.

867
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:56.679
<v Speaker 1>Probably not, but you know, Big Daddy threw it up there.

868
00:49:56.719 --> 00:49:59.679
<v Speaker 1>I know you heart Stephanieve occur as far as the

869
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:04.199
<v Speaker 1>Latin girls go, but I'd say Selena Vega's hotter than Stephanie.

870
00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:08.000
<v Speaker 2>For her, I beg to different, Well, I.

871
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Understand, I'm just respectably saying as far as Latin girls go,

872
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:15.519
<v Speaker 1>I would I would put Selena Vega a head of

873
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:20.519
<v Speaker 1>the line. She would get her first choice of porridge.

874
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Got to keep her thick. No, but dude, this is

875
00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:30.440
<v Speaker 2>this is also we're in a Instagram TikTok, which, by

876
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:32.360
<v Speaker 2>the way, like me even putting them in an order

877
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:37.320
<v Speaker 2>of that is revealing my age, uh TikTok whatever. You know,

878
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:40.960
<v Speaker 2>this idea of just oh my god, it's a really

879
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:43.559
<v Speaker 2>good looking girl with like a good body. It's like, yeah,

880
00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:47.199
<v Speaker 2>we've a lot of those man like they're they're out

881
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:49.920
<v Speaker 2>there and a lot of them are making money. Just

882
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:54.000
<v Speaker 2>like here I am eating a scone. Boy, oh boy,

883
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:55.840
<v Speaker 2>it's a scone all right? Can I have some more

884
00:50:55.840 --> 00:50:58.199
<v Speaker 2>money please? And people are like, oh yeah, absolutely, there's

885
00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:02.880
<v Speaker 2>money for you eating a scone. So let's not pretend

886
00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:05.320
<v Speaker 2>the wrestling world isn't also aware of this. And by

887
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:07.679
<v Speaker 2>that I mean the people that make us should you know,

888
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:10.719
<v Speaker 2>that make all this money and give themselves bonuses. They

889
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:13.960
<v Speaker 2>look at somebody and just go, well, you're pretty and

890
00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:18.559
<v Speaker 2>you can wrestle well enough. But we can find more

891
00:51:18.639 --> 00:51:22.599
<v Speaker 2>of that, you know, we got plenty of access to

892
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:26.719
<v Speaker 2>that and do And is it shitty? Because obviously I

893
00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:29.719
<v Speaker 2>want people to be treated well and like human beings.

894
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:33.159
<v Speaker 2>But if you wanted to be treated well and like

895
00:51:33.159 --> 00:51:36.400
<v Speaker 2>a human being, wrestling is probably not one of the

896
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:41.360
<v Speaker 2>top fifty businesses you'd want to pick, you know now though.

897
00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you were saying that ninety five, sure, But

898
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:48.400
<v Speaker 1>now wrestling is I don't know.

899
00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're not gonna get you're not gonna get

900
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:54.760
<v Speaker 2>your fucking leg broken for you know, like it's not

901
00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:57.239
<v Speaker 2>like it was to that extent, but still at the

902
00:51:57.280 --> 00:51:59.719
<v Speaker 2>same time, like the kids that go into the performance

903
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:02.480
<v Speaker 2>center full of piss and vinegar. They are like, well,

904
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:04.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm in good shape, but I can do a fucking

905
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:07.280
<v Speaker 2>front flip. It's like, all right, I get line man,

906
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:09.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's just yeah, yeah, we got we got that.

907
00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:13.760
<v Speaker 2>We got plenty of that. You need more, Like we're

908
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:16.599
<v Speaker 2>currently ignoring l A. Knight right now, What the fuck

909
00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:18.679
<v Speaker 2>are we gonna do with a twenty year old kid

910
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:21.639
<v Speaker 2>that can't talk. There weighs one hundred and seventy pounds

911
00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:22.920
<v Speaker 2>and it's wrestled for three weeks.

912
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:25.000
<v Speaker 1>They're bringing up all the ice now too. I mean,

913
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:27.880
<v Speaker 1>as far as the Latina element. I know we were talking

914
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:30.199
<v Speaker 1>about that, and you're talking about the kids and girls

915
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:32.400
<v Speaker 1>that look good and that can wrestle. But apparently from

916
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:35.559
<v Speaker 1>NXT she's coming up this week to the main roster.

917
00:52:35.960 --> 00:52:39.159
<v Speaker 2>So now they got to give they gotta give somebody

918
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:42.400
<v Speaker 2>a chance. I mean, really, they they got to start

919
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:43.760
<v Speaker 2>moving some of these women around.

920
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the women's division needs it right now. It feels

921
00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:50.519
<v Speaker 1>like it's a little shallow obviously. You know, Ria Ripley's

922
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:53.800
<v Speaker 1>talking about maybe she'll be back sooner than later, depending

923
00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:55.880
<v Speaker 1>on how she heals from injury. If they have to

924
00:52:55.880 --> 00:52:57.639
<v Speaker 1>go in for full surgery. If they're just going to

925
00:52:57.679 --> 00:52:59.039
<v Speaker 1>shave off the meniscus.

926
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I think she went in for surgery. I think that

927
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:02.480
<v Speaker 2>she just announced that. I thought they.

928
00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Were just shaving it. I thought they were just shaving it.

929
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:06.800
<v Speaker 1>So that's the difference, right, Like I guess if she

930
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:10.880
<v Speaker 1>goes in for a full repair, it'll be like eight

931
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:14.400
<v Speaker 1>to nine months of recovery again, But if they just

932
00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:16.960
<v Speaker 1>shave it down, it'll be like four to eight weeks.

933
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:23.559
<v Speaker 2>So anything that's anything with knees and ligaments and that

934
00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:26.559
<v Speaker 2>type of shit, it's gonna take you a while. It's

935
00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:29.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna take you six months, gonna take you nine months.

936
00:53:29.719 --> 00:53:33.079
<v Speaker 2>And the stability. Like the reason why I'm talking like

937
00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:35.679
<v Speaker 2>this is because anybody who's listening the wrong time knows

938
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:37.320
<v Speaker 2>I've dealt with a lot of nies shit and I've

939
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:41.400
<v Speaker 2>gone and done the surgeries. It sucks, it's it's not fun.

940
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:46.199
<v Speaker 2>But also like for people that are real athletes, like

941
00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:50.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm clearly not a fucking for your ripley, I'm not

942
00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:53.199
<v Speaker 2>a football player, none of that shit, But like, it

943
00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:56.960
<v Speaker 2>does change your body composition, it does change it changes

944
00:53:57.000 --> 00:54:00.840
<v Speaker 2>your walk, changes your stride, it changes the lot to

945
00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:04.519
<v Speaker 2>have those types of ligament repairs or serious issues with

946
00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:08.199
<v Speaker 2>your actual fucking tele mc l A C l pcl

947
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:11.760
<v Speaker 2>ACL obviously being the one that will really fuck your

948
00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:15.239
<v Speaker 2>day up. But this idea of even her being like

949
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:18.360
<v Speaker 2>I want to come back for you know, eight weeks

950
00:54:18.440 --> 00:54:22.880
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. It's like, lady, don't risk fucking yourself up

951
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:30.880
<v Speaker 2>even more for what September pro wrestling and carry yourself. Yeah,

952
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:33.880
<v Speaker 2>but it's the same thing as as everybody else. You know,

953
00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:38.559
<v Speaker 2>They're like, we need you back. We can't.

954
00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:40.519
<v Speaker 1>We can't leave this title on Chelsea.

955
00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:41.480
<v Speaker 2>What the fuck?

956
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:47.119
<v Speaker 1>He's fucking awful. We need Ria, you need to come

957
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:49.880
<v Speaker 1>back this. We would have fired her by now, but

958
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:53.880
<v Speaker 1>there's nobody to replace her. Like that's how bad it is.

959
00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:59.239
<v Speaker 2>You know. They desperately need they desperately need girls with personalities.

960
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:02.039
<v Speaker 1>I I understand that, but that's not how they looked

961
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:05.559
<v Speaker 1>at it. Like if that was the case, if personality

962
00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:08.000
<v Speaker 1>meant something, then l A. Knight would have been champion

963
00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:12.320
<v Speaker 1>this whole fucking time. Joe, Yeah, I still you know what.

964
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Similarly, like I said about Alistair Black, I I gotta

965
00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:20.800
<v Speaker 2>believe that something's up with La and I I gotta

966
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:23.320
<v Speaker 2>believe that more than just like and we make jokes

967
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:26.440
<v Speaker 2>about it, how they just love shitting on him. What

968
00:55:26.519 --> 00:55:29.159
<v Speaker 2>did he do to these people? There's gotta be more

969
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:29.559
<v Speaker 2>to this.

970
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:32.199
<v Speaker 1>I think he's just too crazy. I think him and

971
00:55:32.239 --> 00:55:34.360
<v Speaker 1>his wife are just actually creepy people.

972
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:39.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Oh no, I thought you were talking about black

973
00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:45.079
<v Speaker 2>and uh, I'm likely not even married. Sorry. His poor

974
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:49.559
<v Speaker 2>wife is just like this blonde girl that's Lena Vega.

975
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:52.280
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, oh, because because they kept getting bounced

976
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:54.480
<v Speaker 1>around from different companies too, and you're like, oh, it's

977
00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:57.360
<v Speaker 1>a personality thing with them, and it's like, oh okay, well.

978
00:55:57.400 --> 00:55:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I think it could be for both of them,

979
00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:03.119
<v Speaker 2>like I are all three of them at all? Like, yeah,

980
00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:06.639
<v Speaker 2>well that's that's it is. And you said it I think,

981
00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:10.000
<v Speaker 2>like maybe a couple of weeks ago, and I'd heard

982
00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:13.079
<v Speaker 2>it before, but I just didn't resonate whatever just didn't

983
00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:15.039
<v Speaker 2>stick out to me. It's like being better at your

984
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:18.679
<v Speaker 2>boss than you are at your job. Yeah, I mean

985
00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:22.960
<v Speaker 2>that is who seth Rollins is clearly sure, you know,

986
00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:26.880
<v Speaker 2>like if if you haven't put together by now, that

987
00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:32.639
<v Speaker 2>clearly seth Rollins is doing something to retain this level

988
00:56:32.719 --> 00:56:38.719
<v Speaker 2>of fucking just absolute love and adoration, and dare I

989
00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:42.239
<v Speaker 2>even say just? I mean, Triple H is kind of

990
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:45.880
<v Speaker 2>he's kind of fucking choke it on it. Let's be real. Yeah,

991
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:47.840
<v Speaker 2>like this is like a music let's be it's a

992
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:52.239
<v Speaker 2>mutual sixty nine. But it's a little much, and it's

993
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:54.880
<v Speaker 2>been a little much for a long time. And it's

994
00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:58.440
<v Speaker 2>more than likely because Seth makes Triple H feel good

995
00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:01.960
<v Speaker 2>and like a big smart boy and that he's so

996
00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:06.719
<v Speaker 2>great and respected and as because otherwise.

997
00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:11.760
<v Speaker 1>That's not even a new thing. Oh, somebody's sucking up

998
00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:15.079
<v Speaker 1>to the boss. No way, Oh, why would anybody ever

999
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:15.519
<v Speaker 1>do that?

1000
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:19.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's awful. Apparently he's really good at it. I

1001
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:25.079
<v Speaker 2>mean he's we can make fun of Steph for Steph Seth,

1002
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:29.760
<v Speaker 2>for his stupid outfits and his fuckingulat matches. Death. It's

1003
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:36.800
<v Speaker 2>like death and Seth Steth. Yeah, Steph Rollins. Uh No,

1004
00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:40.079
<v Speaker 2>it's almost better to call him, oh mash, that might

1005
00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:42.320
<v Speaker 2>have been afraid of a slip on my part. Yeah,

1006
00:57:42.360 --> 00:57:46.800
<v Speaker 2>he is Steph Rollins. He's his other wise's wife. Maybe

1007
00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:53.239
<v Speaker 2>that's his girl, that's his baby. You know what I mean, Honey,

1008
00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:57.960
<v Speaker 2>you don't take me out anywhere anymore. I'm sorry, it's

1009
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:03.639
<v Speaker 2>been busy at work. Have you been writing for me again?

1010
00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:08.679
<v Speaker 1>And Roman and all those guys don't even have to

1011
00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:11.239
<v Speaker 1>kiss up because they've got the Samoan bloodline.

1012
00:58:11.880 --> 00:58:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh people, they they're just inevitable, like it's just been

1013
00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:16.960
<v Speaker 2>decided that they're forever.

1014
00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:22.280
<v Speaker 1>They're fucking termite infestation. You just you either got to

1015
00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:24.840
<v Speaker 1>blow out the fucking walls or just deal with them,

1016
00:58:25.079 --> 00:58:25.280
<v Speaker 1>you know.

1017
00:58:25.639 --> 00:58:29.400
<v Speaker 2>So, I think, what's his name, j C. Matteo or

1018
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:35.760
<v Speaker 2>fucking Jeff Cobby? What did they what happened? Did he

1019
00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:38.840
<v Speaker 2>get a cat like fucking jerking off in the hallway

1020
00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:41.559
<v Speaker 2>or something? How did he get fired? Corn Cob? I

1021
00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:47.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I mean, really, when you think about it,

1022
00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:51.079
<v Speaker 2>for them to fire a Samoan, they must have committed

1023
00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:53.320
<v Speaker 2>a war crime, Like I don't know what the fuck

1024
00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:56.000
<v Speaker 2>that how that came to pass.

1025
00:58:56.119 --> 00:58:58.760
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to think that there's a Samoan cap and

1026
00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:01.119
<v Speaker 1>in order for them to bring in news, they gotta

1027
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:05.679
<v Speaker 1>let old Simoans go. So it's like an NFL cap,

1028
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:08.519
<v Speaker 1>like a salary cap, buts you know.

1029
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:13.559
<v Speaker 2>You have to be sacrificed to the to the wicker

1030
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:17.519
<v Speaker 2>man or something is that it is. Yeah, you gotta

1031
00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:20.679
<v Speaker 2>be fed to some sort of goblin that lives in

1032
00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:23.880
<v Speaker 2>the lives in a lighthouse. I don't know, man, Just

1033
00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:27.599
<v Speaker 2>go with the woods, the best angles out there, all right,

1034
00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:33.920
<v Speaker 2>go out there, Jeff, be free, Be free, Jeff. That

1035
00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:41.599
<v Speaker 2>that's right. Go on Rikishi's podcast. There you go. It's uh, gosh,

1036
00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:43.880
<v Speaker 2>why did you say I needed to be what is

1037
00:59:43.920 --> 00:59:48.719
<v Speaker 2>the smothered in honey? And I'm a little confused. Oh,

1038
00:59:48.800 --> 00:59:53.360
<v Speaker 2>no reason, Jeff, Yeah, we're definitely not. I was listening

1039
00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:55.280
<v Speaker 2>to some OF's podcasts too.

1040
00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:59.559
<v Speaker 1>He's another older guy going on a little bit of

1041
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:02.079
<v Speaker 1>a tangent. But there was a clip that I that

1042
01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I caught where they were talking about how does Rakishi

1043
01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:12.039
<v Speaker 1>feel about fan interactions in twenty twenty six? And he's like, oh, brother, Uh,

1044
01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:16.360
<v Speaker 1>they always they always want to talk about the old days.

1045
01:00:17.320 --> 01:00:20.920
<v Speaker 2>They always want to talk about about my man, ask

1046
01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:30.559
<v Speaker 2>about exact just want to ask about the US. Oh whoo,

1047
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:33.920
<v Speaker 2>who was my favorite person to stick my ass in

1048
01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:34.400
<v Speaker 2>that face?

1049
01:00:34.480 --> 01:00:39.159
<v Speaker 1>But uh, And it's like I'm just laughing because he's

1050
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:42.039
<v Speaker 1>saying this, he's delivering this, but there's almost like the

1051
01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:45.760
<v Speaker 1>life is slipping, the life force is slipping through his

1052
01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:49.679
<v Speaker 1>dialogue like he's dying as he says this, and his

1053
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:52.760
<v Speaker 1>co host was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah fans. Fans

1054
01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:54.840
<v Speaker 1>love to hear about what it was like to to

1055
01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:58.440
<v Speaker 1>smash your ass in Vince McMahon's face. He's like, oh yeah, brother, they.

1056
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:03.719
<v Speaker 2>Cold Steve Boston and the Rock. Yeah, they that's what

1057
01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:05.599
<v Speaker 2>they want to know about with you, dude, Like what

1058
01:01:05.719 --> 01:01:06.119
<v Speaker 2>the fuck?

1059
01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they'll pull out they'll pull out pictures of that

1060
01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:12.480
<v Speaker 1>time that we were at waffle house, and I'd be like, oh, yeah,

1061
01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I remember that brought out, but.

1062
01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:18.880
<v Speaker 2>That's quite Literally somebody walking up to Horace Grant and

1063
01:01:18.920 --> 01:01:21.440
<v Speaker 2>being like, why do they keep asking me about Michael Jordan.

1064
01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:23.039
<v Speaker 2>It's like, what the fuck else are they going to

1065
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:29.400
<v Speaker 2>talk to you about, dude? Your geopolitical hues? Where's the

1066
01:01:29.440 --> 01:01:34.039
<v Speaker 2>Hornes Grand rap album? Mask? Fuck Horse? Grant? I just

1067
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:36.920
<v Speaker 2>looked up your Wikipedia. It says here in two thousand

1068
01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:41.559
<v Speaker 2>and three, your mece graduated as a nurse. How was

1069
01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:42.039
<v Speaker 2>she doing?

1070
01:01:42.280 --> 01:01:46.039
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, yeah, they don't bring up his kids.

1071
01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:49.760
<v Speaker 2>He didn't bring that up. Oh how are your kids doing? What?

1072
01:01:49.760 --> 01:01:52.440
<v Speaker 1>What's it like to see your kids on tv? Every

1073
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:54.559
<v Speaker 1>like that wasn't one of the things that he brought

1074
01:01:54.639 --> 01:01:57.840
<v Speaker 1>up for fan interaction. It was all memories. It's all

1075
01:01:57.960 --> 01:02:02.440
<v Speaker 1>leave the memories alone. It's really depressing to listen to

1076
01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:07.039
<v Speaker 1>him sometimes, like it comes off as his positive podcast, like, oh,

1077
01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:09.400
<v Speaker 1>we're all here having a good time. It's for the

1078
01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:12.280
<v Speaker 1>old timers. But if you really listen to one of

1079
01:02:12.320 --> 01:02:15.280
<v Speaker 1>those Rakishi podcasts, it's just.

1080
01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:17.400
<v Speaker 2>It is.

1081
01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:19.800
<v Speaker 1>It's a little depressing. Then it's a little end of

1082
01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:20.119
<v Speaker 1>the row.

1083
01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:25.280
<v Speaker 2>It should be. It should be depressing. There is something

1084
01:02:26.119 --> 01:02:28.800
<v Speaker 2>they always want to ask me about what happened in

1085
01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:33.599
<v Speaker 2>the nineties. It's like, quite literally, that's the most important,

1086
01:02:33.760 --> 01:02:38.920
<v Speaker 2>interesting part of your entire life. Right they don't know

1087
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:43.960
<v Speaker 2>you personally, And like I said, the other question would be, hey,

1088
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:47.000
<v Speaker 2>your sons are awesome, man, are like they're cool. I

1089
01:02:47.039 --> 01:02:50.119
<v Speaker 2>really love what they're doing on television. Right by the way,

1090
01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:55.719
<v Speaker 2>By the way, isn't that basically what every interaction you're

1091
01:02:55.760 --> 01:02:59.199
<v Speaker 2>going to have with people that you barely know or

1092
01:02:59.559 --> 01:03:03.000
<v Speaker 2>barely knew at one point, Like I was talking about

1093
01:03:03.039 --> 01:03:05.159
<v Speaker 2>my buddy from from high school. It's like, yeah, I

1094
01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:08.159
<v Speaker 2>keep up with them, you know, pretty regularly. But if

1095
01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:10.760
<v Speaker 2>I went to a fucking reunion. What are they gonna

1096
01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:12.840
<v Speaker 2>talk to me about other than some shit I did

1097
01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:15.800
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety eight or my family.

1098
01:03:16.079 --> 01:03:18.480
<v Speaker 1>It's different when you're a public figure, though a lot

1099
01:03:18.519 --> 01:03:21.960
<v Speaker 1>of his life is public, so if people wanted to look,

1100
01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:25.880
<v Speaker 1>they could find out random things about Rakishi that just

1101
01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:29.679
<v Speaker 1>aren't publicly or just aren't commonly now, you know what

1102
01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean. It's not like you're looking up some dude

1103
01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:35.159
<v Speaker 1>from high school on Facebook, you know.

1104
01:03:35.440 --> 01:03:39.360
<v Speaker 2>It's I mean just in general, like, what kind of

1105
01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:42.519
<v Speaker 2>a conversation are you going to have other than all

1106
01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:47.599
<v Speaker 2>nostalgia and baseline shit? Yeah, wrestling, and he's also into

1107
01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:52.920
<v Speaker 2>what football too, so yeah, I mean yeah, I keep

1108
01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:56.639
<v Speaker 2>thinking all yeah, I keep thinking of that that kid

1109
01:03:56.679 --> 01:04:00.880
<v Speaker 2>that does the character Mateo. I think that's where like

1110
01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:02.840
<v Speaker 2>just puts the phone in front of him and just

1111
01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:07.239
<v Speaker 2>reads offensive questions and people like just walk up to

1112
01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Rakishi and it's like, Rikisha, what is it like for

1113
01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:12.960
<v Speaker 2>both of your sons to be way more successful than

1114
01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:18.280
<v Speaker 2>you've ever been? We're also not getting fat? Right? And

1115
01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:20.360
<v Speaker 2>then he's like, you know I have a third son, yes,

1116
01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:27.840
<v Speaker 2>but he got fat. Like that's like, that's that's just

1117
01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:29.760
<v Speaker 2>what it feels like to be like, what do you

1118
01:04:29.800 --> 01:04:33.000
<v Speaker 2>what else do you think they're gonna bring up? That's

1119
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:37.199
<v Speaker 2>what it is, man like, that's what you're known for.

1120
01:04:37.519 --> 01:04:39.880
<v Speaker 2>That's who you're gonna be for the rest of your

1121
01:04:39.880 --> 01:04:43.639
<v Speaker 2>fucking life. And once again being the guy that fell

1122
01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:46.280
<v Speaker 2>off the hell in the cell because the Undertaker choke

1123
01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:49.079
<v Speaker 2>slam you off of it. It is a lot better

1124
01:04:49.159 --> 01:04:52.599
<v Speaker 2>than what most people in wrestling are gonna get remembered.

1125
01:04:52.599 --> 01:04:56.440
<v Speaker 2>For sure, was it great that you were to ask

1126
01:04:56.559 --> 01:05:00.079
<v Speaker 2>guy with the you know, the fucking but you he

1127
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:03.440
<v Speaker 2>exits smashing it into people's face. No, probably not the best.

1128
01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:06.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's hilarious. Come on, we all enjoyed that back

1129
01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:10.079
<v Speaker 1>in the day, man, woman child, It didn't matter. Everybody

1130
01:05:10.079 --> 01:05:11.239
<v Speaker 1>got a faithful ass.

1131
01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:15.519
<v Speaker 2>Everybody was cheering for the giant to moment bum So

1132
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:18.840
<v Speaker 2>everybody was cheering. And by the way, not that I'm saying.

1133
01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:21.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, he was dressed that way and he was

1134
01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:25.199
<v Speaker 2>asking for it, But the fuck else do you think

1135
01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:27.400
<v Speaker 2>people were going to he knew what he was doing

1136
01:05:27.880 --> 01:05:30.400
<v Speaker 2>with that ass hanging out? What else are people are

1137
01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:32.960
<v Speaker 2>going to talk about him having a giant ass? I know, but.

1138
01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:36.719
<v Speaker 1>We've actually brought him up in a couple of conversations

1139
01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:38.360
<v Speaker 1>over the last month where he could have been a

1140
01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:42.000
<v Speaker 1>positive asset to the USOS. So it's not as if

1141
01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:46.760
<v Speaker 1>the idea train doesn't exist for making Rakishi a viable

1142
01:05:46.920 --> 01:05:51.119
<v Speaker 1>thing in WWE in twenty twenty six, but it relies

1143
01:05:51.159 --> 01:05:54.960
<v Speaker 1>on a creative that, uh, that's a little bit more

1144
01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:57.599
<v Speaker 1>forward thinking than the AI that they're using now.

1145
01:05:57.880 --> 01:06:02.719
<v Speaker 2>So right, but yeah, that once again, also though what

1146
01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:07.079
<v Speaker 2>I've known about him personality wise, juice isn't worth the squeeze.

1147
01:06:07.639 --> 01:06:09.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to put up with them. I don't

1148
01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:11.320
<v Speaker 2>want to put up with them. And that's a big

1149
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:14.519
<v Speaker 2>part of it too, Like sometimes you go, how did

1150
01:06:14.519 --> 01:06:18.239
<v Speaker 2>this person get this gig? Why are they continuing to

1151
01:06:18.280 --> 01:06:22.800
<v Speaker 2>do this personality and they get along with people? Are

1152
01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:26.840
<v Speaker 2>they going to be fucking shady? He She's known for

1153
01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:28.639
<v Speaker 2>being a little bit shady, all I'm saying.

1154
01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:32.400
<v Speaker 1>So one of the other things coming up is Roman

1155
01:06:32.440 --> 01:06:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Reins is going to Triple A. Right, we talked a

1156
01:06:35.480 --> 01:06:37.039
<v Speaker 1>little bit about Oh, actually we didn't. I think we

1157
01:06:37.239 --> 01:06:39.480
<v Speaker 1>were talking about that with Dan and they're going to

1158
01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:42.320
<v Speaker 1>run the tournament and Roman Rains is going to have

1159
01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:46.119
<v Speaker 1>a match in Triple A, and I guess there's a

1160
01:06:46.239 --> 01:06:50.800
<v Speaker 1>WWE has kind of come forward, but the initial response was, Oh,

1161
01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:53.719
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be Rowan Rains versus El Grande Americano

1162
01:06:54.039 --> 01:06:54.679
<v Speaker 1>Big Heiser.

1163
01:06:56.000 --> 01:07:02.760
<v Speaker 2>But apparently WWE reached out and said, no, that's not it. Sorry, No,

1164
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:04.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean that would be a that would be a

1165
01:07:04.440 --> 01:07:08.039
<v Speaker 2>great way to immediately kill any of the momentum you

1166
01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:10.519
<v Speaker 2>have built behind this guys. Have Roman Reigns come in

1167
01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:12.239
<v Speaker 2>and just run him through his ass cheeks?

1168
01:07:12.559 --> 01:07:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Am I a little dark for wanting that exact thing

1169
01:07:15.320 --> 01:07:15.840
<v Speaker 1>to happen?

1170
01:07:17.239 --> 01:07:20.840
<v Speaker 2>And yes, yes, well shit, I would you want to

1171
01:07:22.239 --> 01:07:22.920
<v Speaker 2>the poor guys.

1172
01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I just want Roman Reigns to be hated internationally. And

1173
01:07:28.920 --> 01:07:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I think if you take one of the few good

1174
01:07:32.039 --> 01:07:36.719
<v Speaker 1>things that WWE has produced for an international audience and

1175
01:07:37.039 --> 01:07:41.519
<v Speaker 1>just have Roman Reigns wipe his dirty toilet paper all

1176
01:07:41.519 --> 01:07:45.119
<v Speaker 1>over it, I think I think we can you know what,

1177
01:07:45.159 --> 01:07:47.960
<v Speaker 1>we can start to heal. We could start to heal

1178
01:07:48.039 --> 01:07:51.239
<v Speaker 1>between the Americans and the Mexicans. We can start to

1179
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:54.519
<v Speaker 1>heal with our hatred of Roman Reigns.

1180
01:07:54.679 --> 01:07:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I was just gonna say, the Americans have clearly been

1181
01:07:57.440 --> 01:07:59.760
<v Speaker 2>way too nice to the Mexicans for the past couple

1182
01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:03.360
<v Speaker 2>of years years. That's we really need to put them

1183
01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:04.239
<v Speaker 2>back in their place.

1184
01:08:04.599 --> 01:08:08.000
<v Speaker 1>If we have a unified enemy in the Samoans rise,

1185
01:08:08.079 --> 01:08:08.599
<v Speaker 1>come on.

1186
01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:13.079
<v Speaker 2>Ah, there you go. It's the American way.

1187
01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:17.279
<v Speaker 3>The Mexicans are they're looking there like, wait a second,

1188
01:08:17.520 --> 01:08:18.479
<v Speaker 3>we know this game.

1189
01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Dah ship shut ship. They got us, they got us.

1190
01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:32.199
<v Speaker 2>It's not us that have fucked your wrestling up.

1191
01:08:32.239 --> 01:08:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Its now we just gotta go back to Canada and

1192
01:08:36.840 --> 01:08:39.119
<v Speaker 1>have Sammy lose three more times the Roman reigns, and

1193
01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:40.479
<v Speaker 1>then we can get Canada on board.

1194
01:08:40.600 --> 01:08:45.119
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, you know how fucking funny that would be

1195
01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:48.720
<v Speaker 2>for like, yeah, we're gonna get every other every other

1196
01:08:48.840 --> 01:08:51.319
<v Speaker 2>part in North America to make Roman reigns a heel.

1197
01:08:52.239 --> 01:08:55.239
<v Speaker 2>And of course we would still stubbornly be like, no,

1198
01:08:55.359 --> 01:09:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Roman's cool, it's awesome. Go was like, no, he's a

1199
01:09:02.039 --> 01:09:05.640
<v Speaker 2>fucking asshole and he does asshole things. And Canada's like, yoh,

1200
01:09:05.720 --> 01:09:09.000
<v Speaker 2>he's an asshole Lake They were like, no, No, he's cool.

1201
01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:12.439
<v Speaker 2>He's a chief, he's cool, he's the best, no rules,

1202
01:09:12.479 --> 01:09:15.800
<v Speaker 2>don't you isn't it cool? Isn't it cool? The way

1203
01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:20.680
<v Speaker 2>that he treats everyone like dog shit, that's cool. We

1204
01:09:20.920 --> 01:09:26.319
<v Speaker 2>like cool guys who are terrible to everyone and underperform

1205
01:09:26.439 --> 01:09:31.920
<v Speaker 2>at everything they're asked to do. Always no, no, no, no, no.

1206
01:09:32.079 --> 01:09:35.319
<v Speaker 2>Canada and Mexico does have it wrong. They just don't

1207
01:09:35.399 --> 01:09:39.479
<v Speaker 2>know that Roman is just awesome and smart. By the way,

1208
01:09:40.039 --> 01:09:45.039
<v Speaker 2>that whole thing with Bischoff and Conrad still still them

1209
01:09:45.119 --> 01:09:48.840
<v Speaker 2>doing that and finally somebody putting that into the ether.

1210
01:09:49.800 --> 01:09:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Roman Reigns is the most overrated and overpushed fucking main

1211
01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:56.640
<v Speaker 2>event pro wrestler of all time. Do you know how

1212
01:09:56.720 --> 01:10:02.520
<v Speaker 2>much it pains me, like into my deep, into my soul,

1213
01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:05.760
<v Speaker 2>if there is such a thing. They have to say

1214
01:10:05.800 --> 01:10:11.199
<v Speaker 2>thank you to Conrad Thompson for saying that. Do you

1215
01:10:11.199 --> 01:10:13.840
<v Speaker 2>know how bad that hurts mynd? I See, I wouldn't

1216
01:10:13.840 --> 01:10:16.279
<v Speaker 2>even do that. I would not even do that. I

1217
01:10:16.319 --> 01:10:21.439
<v Speaker 2>would reverse that reverse Uno card that shit, and just

1218
01:10:21.520 --> 01:10:26.560
<v Speaker 2>look at how miserable, how miserable everything is becoming when

1219
01:10:26.600 --> 01:10:29.079
<v Speaker 2>the people you disagree with the most are on the

1220
01:10:29.159 --> 01:10:33.279
<v Speaker 2>same wavelength as you. Yeah, they're even putting it together at.

1221
01:10:33.119 --> 01:10:36.119
<v Speaker 1>This That's what it is. It's not oh he came

1222
01:10:36.199 --> 01:10:39.600
<v Speaker 1>up with a bright idea. No, it's just so bad.

1223
01:10:39.680 --> 01:10:41.239
<v Speaker 1>It's undeniably bad.

1224
01:10:42.239 --> 01:10:47.920
<v Speaker 2>It's so obvious that yeah, right, you're looking at it

1225
01:10:47.960 --> 01:10:54.359
<v Speaker 2>and you're going, oh, they finally got there, They finally got.

1226
01:10:54.479 --> 01:10:57.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, when you're gonna really realize how bad wrestling is.

1227
01:10:57.399 --> 01:11:03.039
<v Speaker 1>When Dave finally jumps off the AW train. Oh, I'm

1228
01:11:03.079 --> 01:11:06.520
<v Speaker 1>telling you, we're closer than you think. We are closer

1229
01:11:06.520 --> 01:11:08.720
<v Speaker 1>than you think. And I know Dave has been saying

1230
01:11:08.720 --> 01:11:12.199
<v Speaker 1>some silly shit. I've seen PWT talking about it, you know,

1231
01:11:12.319 --> 01:11:15.680
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's not it's not long for this world

1232
01:11:15.720 --> 01:11:20.960
<v Speaker 1>where AW and WWE unanimously have its fans turn on them.

1233
01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:24.239
<v Speaker 1>And sure there will always be the diehards. Of course,

1234
01:11:24.279 --> 01:11:27.960
<v Speaker 1>there's the diehards. There's the chair sniffers, the kool A drinkers,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera, et cetera, sickohs. But it's getting to the

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<v Speaker 1>point now where I think people are sick of watching wrestling.

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<v Speaker 1>Not because people don't enjoy wrestling, they don't enjoy this

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01:11:38.680 --> 01:11:39.960
<v Speaker 1>evolution of wrestling.

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<v Speaker 2>Hm. I mean you could call it that, you could

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01:11:45.239 --> 01:11:47.119
<v Speaker 2>call it the evolution of it, But like I said,

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01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:49.720
<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's a two way straight. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>medium bowl of forage. I always use that. It's like,

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01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:58.840
<v Speaker 2>once again, do you want complete garbage corpo swap that

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01:11:59.159 --> 01:12:02.159
<v Speaker 2>is like, you're just eating a stale peanut butter and

1245
01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:06.399
<v Speaker 2>jelly sandwich for fifteen years, Or do you want a

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01:12:06.520 --> 01:12:11.640
<v Speaker 2>rich kid's fucking weird little fever dream where it's the

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01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:14.520
<v Speaker 2>same exact shit as well over and over and over

1248
01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:18.920
<v Speaker 2>and over and over and over again, but it's just smaller,

1249
01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:25.000
<v Speaker 2>less well produced, and long as fuck. That's it. You're like,

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01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:29.039
<v Speaker 2>can I get somewhere in the middle there? And they're like, no, no,

1251
01:12:29.159 --> 01:12:33.039
<v Speaker 2>that's just not an option. Not an option. Can I

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01:12:33.079 --> 01:12:39.119
<v Speaker 2>get something that's like moderately well produced with some storytelling

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01:12:39.199 --> 01:12:43.600
<v Speaker 2>and some characters and people to to gravitate towards that

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01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:46.960
<v Speaker 2>are interesting and then bring in fresh characters and then

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01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:50.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of reel back on once it aren't.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, no, that's stupid, that will never work.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, just stick with Hugan and Nash and Haul and.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well no. It was funny because I'm sure the

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01:13:04.159 --> 01:13:08.279
<v Speaker 2>people with Bischoff that are saying, oh, Bischoff can't say

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01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:11.720
<v Speaker 2>anything because he was pushing fucking Hulk Hogan for twenty

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01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:16.079
<v Speaker 2>five s three fucking years. At least in Hogan's first

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01:13:16.439 --> 01:13:21.520
<v Speaker 2>X amount of years, he was over, Yes, he was

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<v Speaker 2>over in those Initially, it's difficult. It's difficult to.

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<v Speaker 1>Take Bischoff pushing Hulk Hogan at anything but face value.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean that because he's his friend. I truly

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01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:42.560
<v Speaker 1>believe they were close friends. So it's difficult for me

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01:13:42.640 --> 01:13:47.359
<v Speaker 1>to ever believe that creatively Bischoff saw or didn't see

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01:13:47.359 --> 01:13:51.479
<v Speaker 1>the pitfalls that other people saw with Hogan. Creatively, he

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01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:54.520
<v Speaker 1>just chose to ignore them, or he chose not to

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01:13:54.520 --> 01:13:57.960
<v Speaker 1>say anything about them, because again, he was a writer,

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01:13:58.199 --> 01:14:02.960
<v Speaker 1>die friend. So whenever it comes to Bischoff's opinions of Hogan,

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01:14:04.039 --> 01:14:07.840
<v Speaker 1>ah like, you're not going to get him. It's kind

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01:14:07.880 --> 01:14:11.479
<v Speaker 1>of like with Jim Cornett and Sonny. It's real difficult

1274
01:14:11.960 --> 01:14:14.880
<v Speaker 1>to hear Jim Cornett say anything bad about Sonny. He

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01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:18.359
<v Speaker 1>has here and there, He's he's criticized some of her

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01:14:18.439 --> 01:14:22.680
<v Speaker 1>actions and rightfully so, but it's very difficult for him

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01:14:22.680 --> 01:14:24.960
<v Speaker 1>to do it because he holds her in such a

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01:14:25.079 --> 01:14:28.279
<v Speaker 1>high light because he was friends with her, you know,

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01:14:28.399 --> 01:14:30.279
<v Speaker 1>And it's just one of those scenarios when.

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<v Speaker 2>And it also makes him sad because he barely cared,

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01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:36.279
<v Speaker 2>right of course, you know what I mean. Like, even

1282
01:14:36.920 --> 01:14:40.760
<v Speaker 2>like you said, with Hogan, I'm sure Bishoff knows him

1283
01:14:40.840 --> 01:14:43.840
<v Speaker 2>doing all the fucking N word ship everything. I'm sure

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01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:47.079
<v Speaker 2>he looks at Come on, manis is.

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01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:49.199
<v Speaker 1>Too fucking smart to be that oblivious?

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01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:53.199
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean. It's a choice. Yeah, it's

1287
01:14:53.239 --> 01:14:55.479
<v Speaker 2>a choice on his hand. And by the way, like

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01:14:55.600 --> 01:14:59.479
<v Speaker 2>everyone that's a friend to you, anybody that's had a

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01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:03.199
<v Speaker 2>friend that has done something creatively and you go, that

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01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:07.920
<v Speaker 2>was fucking bad, man, That shit was ringe whatever it

1291
01:15:08.039 --> 01:15:11.079
<v Speaker 2>was right, like, oh, your friend's in a terrible band,

1292
01:15:12.039 --> 01:15:14.720
<v Speaker 2>or you're in college and you're like, uh, but.

1293
01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Your friends started a terrible podcast.

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01:15:17.880 --> 01:15:25.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, I really liked that part with all that silence.

1295
01:15:25.439 --> 01:15:31.079
<v Speaker 2>That was great. Thirty seconds at a time. Jesus, man,

1296
01:15:31.079 --> 01:15:33.079
<v Speaker 2>what are you gonna put on another episode? That's great?

1297
01:15:33.159 --> 01:15:35.319
<v Speaker 2>Can he not record again? That was great? That was

1298
01:15:35.359 --> 01:15:39.239
<v Speaker 2>my favorite episode. Yeah, shocked. So what happened? Oh you

1299
01:15:39.279 --> 01:15:41.960
<v Speaker 2>guys stopped making it after sixth episodes? Why it was

1300
01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:45.920
<v Speaker 2>so good? Uh? Oh yeah, like your friend that was like,

1301
01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:49.000
<v Speaker 2>oh the white rapper in college, You're like, oh, great, right,

1302
01:15:49.079 --> 01:15:50.880
<v Speaker 2>you know he's a nice kid, but you know, I'm

1303
01:15:50.880 --> 01:15:54.399
<v Speaker 2>not ready for his Wait a second eminem is an

1304
01:15:54.399 --> 01:15:58.920
<v Speaker 2>inspiration of yours, right, that's what you're dealing with with

1305
01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Bishoff and Hogan because he was somebody that he really

1306
01:16:01.920 --> 01:16:03.680
<v Speaker 2>felt that he was close to, was a front of

1307
01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:07.359
<v Speaker 2>his But now he's got to wear that bucket scarlet.

1308
01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:10.319
<v Speaker 2>H brother, he's gotta wear that for the rest of

1309
01:16:10.359 --> 01:16:14.479
<v Speaker 2>his god whenever he does, honestly, for whatever it's worth it.

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01:16:14.520 --> 01:16:16.760
<v Speaker 2>I think Bischoff doesn't mind. I mean, yeah, he's got

1311
01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:18.640
<v Speaker 2>plenty of money. He don't give a fuck, right.

1312
01:16:20.279 --> 01:16:21.800
<v Speaker 1>But that's what I'm saying. It is like so when

1313
01:16:21.800 --> 01:16:24.680
<v Speaker 1>it comes to other avenues that Bischoff talks about the industry,

1314
01:16:24.720 --> 01:16:27.640
<v Speaker 1>and I do try to pay close attention because I

1315
01:16:27.680 --> 01:16:31.319
<v Speaker 1>think on the outside perspective, especially when it comes to

1316
01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:34.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, how these companies make money, how these promotions

1317
01:16:34.720 --> 01:16:38.640
<v Speaker 1>make money. I think Bischoff understands that pretty intimately, whereas

1318
01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:42.039
<v Speaker 1>it's not really discussed about too much. And when when

1319
01:16:42.079 --> 01:16:46.680
<v Speaker 1>they're having conversations about the direction of WWE with Rowan

1320
01:16:46.760 --> 01:16:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Reigns getting over pushed or or being one of the

1321
01:16:49.439 --> 01:16:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, the most oversaturated wrestlers on TV, I mean,

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01:16:54.039 --> 01:16:56.319
<v Speaker 1>at what point do you not look at it and go, yeah,

1323
01:16:56.359 --> 01:17:00.439
<v Speaker 1>there's some there's some value to a conrad say yeah, that.

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01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:04.359
<v Speaker 2>Was true, that was quite literally what happened. And I

1325
01:17:04.520 --> 01:17:07.159
<v Speaker 2>was once again talking to John about this earlier because

1326
01:17:07.199 --> 01:17:10.000
<v Speaker 2>he was taking a bath about fucking the green with

1327
01:17:10.039 --> 01:17:10.600
<v Speaker 2>these two guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I thought you were talking to him while he

1329
01:17:12.119 --> 01:17:12.880
<v Speaker 1>was taking a bath.

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01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Was well, rub a dub in the tub? I think

1331
01:17:17.840 --> 01:17:20.319
<v Speaker 2>I was asking what that rubber ducky was behind them

1332
01:17:20.680 --> 01:17:24.600
<v Speaker 2>on the scrub behind your ears, Josh, it's just uh yeah,

1333
01:17:27.079 --> 01:17:31.159
<v Speaker 2>And then he said, hah what Yeah, he's he's bad

1334
01:17:31.199 --> 01:17:35.720
<v Speaker 2>hairy guys. Uh well, Jude, I was watching that episode

1335
01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:37.840
<v Speaker 2>the Dark Side of the Ring, the Newest one right

1336
01:17:38.119 --> 01:17:40.319
<v Speaker 2>with Renegade Rio whatever.

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01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't watch that when I watched The boss

1338
01:17:42.760 --> 01:17:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Man one before that, but I haven't watched Rennega.

1339
01:17:44.880 --> 01:17:47.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I love the boss Man one. Then one was

1340
01:17:47.520 --> 01:17:51.159
<v Speaker 2>so good and so sad. Yeah, nicest, I feel like

1341
01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:53.479
<v Speaker 2>I should always. I always throw in this quick story

1342
01:17:53.520 --> 01:17:55.279
<v Speaker 2>when I talk about the boss Man where it's like

1343
01:17:55.359 --> 01:17:57.880
<v Speaker 2>I ran into him, or I worked on a show

1344
01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:00.399
<v Speaker 2>with him when I was a kid and I was

1345
01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:03.560
<v Speaker 2>video I was running the camera before I was arref

1346
01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:08.319
<v Speaker 2>and he was on the show. And you know, everybody's

1347
01:18:08.359 --> 01:18:11.000
<v Speaker 2>cleaning up, breaking down the ring, everybody's getting ready to leave,

1348
01:18:11.520 --> 01:18:13.680
<v Speaker 2>and Prince Albert was on the show too, because he's

1349
01:18:13.680 --> 01:18:15.680
<v Speaker 2>a local guy, and he came up to him and

1350
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:17.560
<v Speaker 2>he's like, yeah, we're all going to the fucking Squire,

1351
01:18:17.760 --> 01:18:20.920
<v Speaker 2>which is a strip club right outside of Boston, you know.

1352
01:18:22.079 --> 01:18:24.720
<v Speaker 2>And I just remember boss Man kind of like looking

1353
01:18:24.720 --> 01:18:26.560
<v Speaker 2>at him and giving him like, you know, you know,

1354
01:18:26.680 --> 01:18:29.039
<v Speaker 2>giving him the fucking high five or whatever. He's giving

1355
01:18:29.079 --> 01:18:30.720
<v Speaker 2>a fist bump. Bar right, I'll catch up with you.

1356
01:18:31.359 --> 01:18:34.359
<v Speaker 2>And boss Man stood there and fucking signed and took

1357
01:18:34.439 --> 01:18:37.319
<v Speaker 2>pictures with like all of the kids that were still

1358
01:18:37.319 --> 01:18:40.319
<v Speaker 2>sitting there. Didn't ask for a dollar, but like it

1359
01:18:40.479 --> 01:18:44.399
<v Speaker 2>just I remember at that time and that story staying

1360
01:18:44.439 --> 01:18:47.880
<v Speaker 2>with me because I was pretty young man, I think

1361
01:18:47.880 --> 01:18:51.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe I was. I was seventeen eighteen round that, and

1362
01:18:52.720 --> 01:18:58.000
<v Speaker 2>watching him be so nice to kids at a time

1363
01:18:58.640 --> 01:19:00.880
<v Speaker 2>where a lot of the wrestlers, and you watched them,

1364
01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:03.439
<v Speaker 2>they weren't they had no reason to be nice, you know,

1365
01:19:03.560 --> 01:19:07.199
<v Speaker 2>like they didn't unless there's money involved. They weren't particularly

1366
01:19:07.199 --> 01:19:11.520
<v Speaker 2>good people. But he was. And that's my one big

1367
01:19:11.560 --> 01:19:13.680
<v Speaker 2>story that I remember with him, was him just being

1368
01:19:13.720 --> 01:19:19.560
<v Speaker 2>a good guy. But the Rio thing, the renegade shit, right, yeah,

1369
01:19:20.279 --> 01:19:22.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm watching that, and I'm thinking to myself, I'm

1370
01:19:22.960 --> 01:19:26.000
<v Speaker 2>going it's funny because it ties into the whole chip

1371
01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:30.119
<v Speaker 2>of fishoff where this dude came in as like a

1372
01:19:30.239 --> 01:19:35.600
<v Speaker 2>bootleg fucking Ultimate Warrior that they were gonna push and

1373
01:19:35.720 --> 01:19:38.520
<v Speaker 2>push and push up to the fuck just we're gonna

1374
01:19:38.520 --> 01:19:41.199
<v Speaker 2>make him into the next giant, big fucking megastar. Blah

1375
01:19:41.199 --> 01:19:44.640
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah blah blah. And within a certain period

1376
01:19:44.680 --> 01:19:48.119
<v Speaker 2>of time they said, people don't like this, this doesn't work.

1377
01:19:48.439 --> 01:19:52.279
<v Speaker 2>They stopped doing it. They decide they just decided, we're

1378
01:19:52.319 --> 01:19:54.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna humiliate the guy and rub the paint off his

1379
01:19:54.760 --> 01:19:56.720
<v Speaker 2>face and he's not going to be this character and

1380
01:19:56.760 --> 01:20:00.720
<v Speaker 2>screw it. And they kept bait on it. Right, what

1381
01:20:00.840 --> 01:20:03.640
<v Speaker 2>if they did that in years three of the Forever

1382
01:20:03.760 --> 01:20:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Roman Reigns push, when they realized that no one gave

1383
01:20:07.119 --> 01:20:12.840
<v Speaker 2>a fuck about him in the crowd for years? What

1384
01:20:11.840 --> 01:20:15.560
<v Speaker 2>if what if they decided to do that? And now

1385
01:20:15.600 --> 01:20:19.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sitting here saying that Roman Reins' life would

1386
01:20:19.479 --> 01:20:24.159
<v Speaker 2>have ended in a hailstorm of cocaine, tragedy and death,

1387
01:20:25.119 --> 01:20:30.159
<v Speaker 2>But I'm just saying that's usually where that sad story

1388
01:20:30.439 --> 01:20:34.680
<v Speaker 2>ends in wrestling. We brought you in. We pushed you

1389
01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:38.640
<v Speaker 2>way too much, way too soon, and you did not

1390
01:20:38.960 --> 01:20:42.119
<v Speaker 2>have the sauce to do it. And then the people

1391
01:20:42.159 --> 01:20:45.880
<v Speaker 2>that are booking it look at him and go, well,

1392
01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:51.359
<v Speaker 2>we fucked up. See later, there's the door. Roman Reigns

1393
01:20:51.399 --> 01:20:56.640
<v Speaker 2>got a ten year push eight or nine if I'm

1394
01:20:56.760 --> 01:21:00.359
<v Speaker 2>being you know, generous before he came up with the

1395
01:21:00.399 --> 01:21:03.960
<v Speaker 2>tribal chief shit or whatever, right yeah, or the you know,

1396
01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:08.439
<v Speaker 2>the bloodline shit. And they never stopped pushing him, and

1397
01:21:08.479 --> 01:21:11.319
<v Speaker 2>they never gave up on him. And they were a

1398
01:21:11.359 --> 01:21:15.880
<v Speaker 2>good half a dozen or so WrestleMania main events that

1399
01:21:15.960 --> 01:21:20.760
<v Speaker 2>were cheeks. They were pure fucking duke. They were bad

1400
01:21:20.920 --> 01:21:25.239
<v Speaker 2>with a capital beat. They never stopped giving that guy

1401
01:21:25.239 --> 01:21:29.000
<v Speaker 2>a push. And where'd you just thal's supposed to forget that?

1402
01:21:30.239 --> 01:21:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Everybody just whatever, No, none of that happened. Fucking men

1403
01:21:34.760 --> 01:21:40.199
<v Speaker 2>in black mind white pen. Nope, that never occurred. So yeah,

1404
01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Roman Rings is one of the biggest anomalies in the

1405
01:21:44.359 --> 01:21:47.960
<v Speaker 2>history of wrestling. Not because he's a guy that he's

1406
01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:51.960
<v Speaker 2>attached to the smashing success of the most popular error

1407
01:21:52.039 --> 01:21:55.479
<v Speaker 2>and the most money that has ever been made. No,

1408
01:21:55.560 --> 01:22:00.119
<v Speaker 2>it's because he's the only guy who could fail upwards

1409
01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:06.319
<v Speaker 2>for ten years, and that was allowed because nobody looked

1410
01:22:06.359 --> 01:22:09.319
<v Speaker 2>at him and said, this isn't working. You're not selling

1411
01:22:09.399 --> 01:22:13.479
<v Speaker 2>fucking merch, you're not drawing fans. People don't like this.

1412
01:22:14.199 --> 01:22:16.800
<v Speaker 2>They just let it happen.

1413
01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:22.039
<v Speaker 3>So the lure and the story and the you know

1414
01:22:22.279 --> 01:22:26.279
<v Speaker 3>whoa the bloodline, it's the greatest fucking storyline that ever happened, right,

1415
01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:30.680
<v Speaker 3>Sam Roberts, You forget the decade before for the people

1416
01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:35.840
<v Speaker 3>that were actually watching at that time, going peu, this sucks,

1417
01:22:36.319 --> 01:22:39.680
<v Speaker 3>and all of the people that that chased off, which.

1418
01:22:39.600 --> 01:22:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Was the creation or part of the big part of

1419
01:22:42.880 --> 01:22:46.720
<v Speaker 2>the creation of AW, whether people want to admit that

1420
01:22:46.840 --> 01:22:51.079
<v Speaker 2>or not. AW was able to help get started because

1421
01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:55.079
<v Speaker 2>people were like Vince McMahon's booking sucks and the show's unwatchable.

1422
01:22:55.560 --> 01:22:58.319
<v Speaker 2>And a big part of that reason was because he

1423
01:22:58.760 --> 01:23:03.960
<v Speaker 2>was forever pushed Roman reigns. Yeah, don't don't let that.

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01:23:04.399 --> 01:23:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Don't let that fall out of your fucking memory. I

1425
01:23:07.520 --> 01:23:10.760
<v Speaker 2>don't know what happened. I don't know how everyone forgot that.

1426
01:23:11.199 --> 01:23:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's willfully, or maybe it's because the people that

1427
01:23:14.439 --> 01:23:18.359
<v Speaker 2>do remember it, that hated it so much just stop watching.

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01:23:20.039 --> 01:23:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's maybe that's actually what happened. And that's I'm

1429
01:23:22.880 --> 01:23:25.560
<v Speaker 2>sorry for ranting for like five minutes too.

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01:23:26.239 --> 01:23:28.720
<v Speaker 1>That's fine. I mean that's exactly where we're at now

1431
01:23:28.760 --> 01:23:32.439
<v Speaker 1>though too. You know, like you look back at the

1432
01:23:32.560 --> 01:23:35.680
<v Speaker 1>day and now you look today, and how many people

1433
01:23:35.680 --> 01:23:37.319
<v Speaker 1>do you think will still be around by the time

1434
01:23:37.359 --> 01:23:40.840
<v Speaker 1>this gets bought up by Saudi Mania? How how how

1435
01:23:40.840 --> 01:23:42.920
<v Speaker 1>many people do you think will be left that will

1436
01:23:42.920 --> 01:23:46.319
<v Speaker 1>make the transition? And I'm I'm being serious. I know

1437
01:23:46.399 --> 01:23:49.399
<v Speaker 1>this is always a jokey question. It's like fantasy booking

1438
01:23:49.399 --> 01:23:51.920
<v Speaker 1>one o one. But if you were to guess if

1439
01:23:51.960 --> 01:23:53.840
<v Speaker 1>we're doing what are the numbers now?

1440
01:23:54.159 --> 01:23:54.520
<v Speaker 2>Total?

1441
01:23:54.680 --> 01:23:58.119
<v Speaker 1>Like four million a week? Four million views a week

1442
01:23:58.279 --> 01:24:04.119
<v Speaker 1>total with SmackDown and and raw and and maybe roughly.

1443
01:24:03.840 --> 01:24:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you're combine all the ship, That's what I'm.

1444
01:24:05.720 --> 01:24:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Saying, combining all the ship in a week like maybe

1445
01:24:08.760 --> 01:24:12.119
<v Speaker 1>about four million views? Right, how many people do you

1446
01:24:12.119 --> 01:24:16.520
<v Speaker 1>think will they'll retain when they go to Saudi how

1447
01:24:16.520 --> 01:24:17.399
<v Speaker 1>many views a week?

1448
01:24:19.439 --> 01:24:22.680
<v Speaker 2>I feel like this has gotta this is this has

1449
01:24:22.760 --> 01:24:26.600
<v Speaker 2>to be their bottom at this point, right, I mean

1450
01:24:27.159 --> 01:24:28.000
<v Speaker 2>I think that's.

1451
01:24:28.079 --> 01:24:31.199
<v Speaker 1>Low, that's the said, and I think by the time

1452
01:24:31.239 --> 01:24:33.720
<v Speaker 1>they get to Saudi I think there will be a

1453
01:24:33.760 --> 01:24:36.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of diehards that will finally bail on WWE at

1454
01:24:36.920 --> 01:24:40.079
<v Speaker 1>that point. That's why making that joke with you the

1455
01:24:40.119 --> 01:24:43.119
<v Speaker 1>other day too on Tuesday, I'm like, they're not going

1456
01:24:43.199 --> 01:24:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to go to a w These fans won't go to

1457
01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:49.119
<v Speaker 1>a WY. They probably won't even go to t and

1458
01:24:49.159 --> 01:24:52.840
<v Speaker 1>a TNA might get another another chance for for some

1459
01:24:52.920 --> 01:24:55.079
<v Speaker 1>of them. But I think a lot of the fans

1460
01:24:55.079 --> 01:24:58.880
<v Speaker 1>will go to Triple A. Triple A has steadily been

1461
01:24:58.920 --> 01:25:02.279
<v Speaker 1>doing better and better, putting on better shows, better talent,

1462
01:25:02.359 --> 01:25:06.640
<v Speaker 1>better storylines. Like It's just I don't know, but I

1463
01:25:06.640 --> 01:25:10.439
<v Speaker 1>think the majority of people will will dump WWE once

1464
01:25:10.520 --> 01:25:11.680
<v Speaker 1>TKO gives it up.

1465
01:25:13.000 --> 01:25:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, this is another part of ancient history that you

1466
01:25:17.960 --> 01:25:21.520
<v Speaker 2>don't hear people mention as much. But when WCW went

1467
01:25:21.560 --> 01:25:27.800
<v Speaker 2>off the air, millions of people stopped watching wrestling. Millions, millions, Yeah,

1468
01:25:28.680 --> 01:25:33.920
<v Speaker 2>because to them that was what wrestling was. It wasn't

1469
01:25:34.439 --> 01:25:37.920
<v Speaker 2>oh well that's off you, I'll just I'll just go

1470
01:25:37.960 --> 01:25:38.800
<v Speaker 2>watch the other thing.

1471
01:25:38.880 --> 01:25:41.039
<v Speaker 1>I think the competition was part of it though, too.

1472
01:25:41.720 --> 01:25:46.039
<v Speaker 1>Like at that point when WWE finally took over wcwwwe

1473
01:25:46.119 --> 01:25:49.560
<v Speaker 1>was not doing very well, like it was already starting

1474
01:25:49.560 --> 01:25:52.359
<v Speaker 1>to wind down, and we saw what the next four

1475
01:25:52.439 --> 01:25:54.239
<v Speaker 1>or five years of that shit was.

1476
01:25:55.239 --> 01:25:59.560
<v Speaker 2>So I think we were onto the right around the

1477
01:25:59.600 --> 01:26:05.960
<v Speaker 2>time of like the Corpse Sex. Really yeah, you're heading

1478
01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:08.279
<v Speaker 2>towards like JBL's big push.

1479
01:26:09.119 --> 01:26:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Now fuck dog food, Vince. I want to stick my

1480
01:26:12.800 --> 01:26:14.880
<v Speaker 1>tiny cock and some dog food.

1481
01:26:15.720 --> 01:26:19.439
<v Speaker 2>It's all right, dude. And meanwhile, the people that were

1482
01:26:19.479 --> 01:26:25.279
<v Speaker 2>watching w CW, even in the even in the Let's

1483
01:26:25.279 --> 01:26:28.920
<v Speaker 2>stup in ten, w CW was putting out fucking Shakespeare.

1484
01:26:30.560 --> 01:26:35.079
<v Speaker 2>But you gotta think the people that were left by then,

1485
01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:40.920
<v Speaker 2>they were watching you know, Evan courageous, Yeah, you know

1486
01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:45.199
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, like Harris and aj Styles and fucking Yeah,

1487
01:26:46.279 --> 01:26:51.039
<v Speaker 2>which was left Raven yeah yeah, which was still so

1488
01:26:51.039 --> 01:26:54.039
<v Speaker 2>so different than w w F at that time. But

1489
01:26:54.520 --> 01:26:57.640
<v Speaker 2>that's it. It's like this belief that people are just

1490
01:26:57.720 --> 01:27:07.399
<v Speaker 2>gonna Mark yeah, right, So I hope he goes to

1491
01:27:07.479 --> 01:27:12.319
<v Speaker 2>the invasion. That would be great. He wait a second,

1492
01:27:13.119 --> 01:27:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Mark chin Rack is gonna en shine O' hair. They're

1493
01:27:16.119 --> 01:27:18.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna go fight the New Age outlaws, like no, no

1494
01:27:18.960 --> 01:27:20.960
<v Speaker 2>one gave a fuck, No one fucking cared.

1495
01:27:21.039 --> 01:27:23.680
<v Speaker 1>They killed Chronic, though I think Chronic was ahead of

1496
01:27:23.680 --> 01:27:27.399
<v Speaker 1>their time. Chronic was ahead of their time. I'm sorry,

1497
01:27:27.399 --> 01:27:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Brian Clark, Bryan Adams. If they would have been around

1498
01:27:30.119 --> 01:27:33.640
<v Speaker 1>ten years later, they would have been the uh yeah,

1499
01:27:33.640 --> 01:27:34.399
<v Speaker 1>they'd have been fine.

1500
01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Well now they'd be serious, dangerous outlaws in Texas. I've

1501
01:27:38.159 --> 01:27:42.159
<v Speaker 2>gathered that would also they'd be bad naughty boys. Call

1502
01:27:42.199 --> 01:27:45.920
<v Speaker 2>them them sells. Chronic in twenty twenty the dirty rotten

1503
01:27:45.960 --> 01:27:52.079
<v Speaker 2>Scoundrels with oh no, filthy animals. Yeah. Yeah, well that

1504
01:27:52.199 --> 01:27:56.279
<v Speaker 2>was with Ray when he was overalls, right, yeah, which

1505
01:27:56.319 --> 01:27:58.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's all. Is that what you call?

1506
01:27:59.680 --> 01:28:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when he's wearing overalls, well even have a mask

1507
01:28:03.399 --> 01:28:04.880
<v Speaker 1>either he's wearing the goat horns.

1508
01:28:06.079 --> 01:28:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which, by the way, like now when I see

1509
01:28:08.920 --> 01:28:12.000
<v Speaker 2>like Domo wear the fucking overalls backstage and I'm like,

1510
01:28:12.079 --> 01:28:16.039
<v Speaker 2>I see you, I see I know what you're doing,

1511
01:28:16.119 --> 01:28:18.359
<v Speaker 2>big boy. I like it. I love it. It's it's

1512
01:28:18.359 --> 01:28:21.720
<v Speaker 2>such a fucking little callback for as uh for as

1513
01:28:21.760 --> 01:28:26.039
<v Speaker 2>old motherfuckers. But yeah, man, like that's that's the thought process,

1514
01:28:26.319 --> 01:28:29.520
<v Speaker 2>is that they'll turn it off and that everybody will

1515
01:28:29.520 --> 01:28:32.399
<v Speaker 2>shoo ooker show it's good. I'll just watch the other

1516
01:28:32.640 --> 01:28:35.600
<v Speaker 2>version of it. It's like that's no, that's not what's

1517
01:28:35.600 --> 01:28:36.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna happen.

1518
01:28:36.720 --> 01:28:39.560
<v Speaker 1>But there is another version. I mean, AW is so

1519
01:28:39.720 --> 01:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>far away from w W in so many ways that

1520
01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:46.239
<v Speaker 1>it's it doesn't feel like it's the same show, doesn't

1521
01:28:46.279 --> 01:28:48.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's the same product. You know, It's like

1522
01:28:49.119 --> 01:28:52.319
<v Speaker 1>here you have WWE, where they're hyper focused on entertainment

1523
01:28:52.439 --> 01:28:55.560
<v Speaker 1>storylines for as for as bad as they are half

1524
01:28:55.560 --> 01:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the time, and then you have a w which is

1525
01:28:58.000 --> 01:28:59.319
<v Speaker 1>just a human crash test.

1526
01:29:00.119 --> 01:29:03.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's just and by the way, it's a

1527
01:29:03.640 --> 01:29:07.520
<v Speaker 2>human crash test. And because of the way that they

1528
01:29:07.600 --> 01:29:10.720
<v Speaker 2>work and the ship that they do, even to the

1529
01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:14.760
<v Speaker 2>lesser degree that they do things, most of their top

1530
01:29:14.800 --> 01:29:21.119
<v Speaker 2>guys are now actively in some state of injury. MJF

1531
01:29:21.199 --> 01:29:24.760
<v Speaker 2>is like thirty years old, and he's and you're hearing

1532
01:29:24.800 --> 01:29:29.159
<v Speaker 2>about him having hip problems, Like, is this dude gonna

1533
01:29:29.199 --> 01:29:34.520
<v Speaker 2>need a hip replacement at thirty five? Jesus Christ, are

1534
01:29:34.520 --> 01:29:37.560
<v Speaker 2>you kidding me? You know, it's like Will Osprey has

1535
01:29:37.600 --> 01:29:40.399
<v Speaker 2>already had his Neckhews and he's like thirty three or

1536
01:29:40.439 --> 01:29:41.199
<v Speaker 2>something like this.

1537
01:29:41.279 --> 01:29:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but Joe buddy Matthews is coming back, so it's okay, man.

1538
01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:48.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh good good, Okay. By the way, they fixed they

1539
01:29:48.520 --> 01:29:51.760
<v Speaker 2>they've fixed his ankle. That poor motherfucker rolled his ring

1540
01:29:51.840 --> 01:29:55.039
<v Speaker 2>in a rolled his ankle at a shitty ring in Australia,

1541
01:29:55.079 --> 01:29:58.359
<v Speaker 2>I think three years ago. Yeah, and that was and

1542
01:29:58.399 --> 01:30:01.079
<v Speaker 2>that was a done deal for that guy. Good twenty

1543
01:30:02.119 --> 01:30:07.600
<v Speaker 2>grand slam. Oh okay, so only neeering it on a

1544
01:30:07.680 --> 01:30:12.840
<v Speaker 2>year and after years, but that's yeah, man. I really

1545
01:30:12.880 --> 01:30:16.039
<v Speaker 2>think that if they do sell to Saudi Arabia, and

1546
01:30:16.119 --> 01:30:20.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that, it's gonna be millions and millions

1547
01:30:20.039 --> 01:30:23.520
<v Speaker 2>of people, because once again we've really boiled this down

1548
01:30:23.640 --> 01:30:27.199
<v Speaker 2>to a nice room. The audience that's left, right, you

1549
01:30:27.359 --> 01:30:29.560
<v Speaker 2>chase them off from the attitude era, you chase them

1550
01:30:29.600 --> 01:30:33.239
<v Speaker 2>off with the fucking micro transactions, you chase them off

1551
01:30:33.279 --> 01:30:36.159
<v Speaker 2>with having the video games that people don't enjoy anymore.

1552
01:30:36.199 --> 01:30:39.720
<v Speaker 2>So you can't even generate people off that audience. And

1553
01:30:39.760 --> 01:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>then you'll chase them off by saying, hey, we're moving

1554
01:30:41.960 --> 01:30:44.720
<v Speaker 2>the whole fucking thing to the Middle East. Get on

1555
01:30:44.760 --> 01:30:49.760
<v Speaker 2>board with that or fucking blow us. So it's not

1556
01:30:49.880 --> 01:30:54.560
<v Speaker 2>gonna help. It's not gonna help. And it's a shame,

1557
01:30:54.680 --> 01:30:58.239
<v Speaker 2>like you said, aw doesn't have the fucking smarts to

1558
01:30:58.319 --> 01:31:02.399
<v Speaker 2>capitalize on us. They don't have the people they don't

1559
01:31:02.439 --> 01:31:06.439
<v Speaker 2>have the mines, they don't have the mindset. And let's

1560
01:31:06.439 --> 01:31:09.000
<v Speaker 2>suppose that they sell them not to Saudi this year,

1561
01:31:09.039 --> 01:31:12.399
<v Speaker 2>but the year after that. By that point you'll have

1562
01:31:13.279 --> 01:31:16.520
<v Speaker 2>an almost dying Kenny Omega because he already looks like

1563
01:31:16.560 --> 01:31:16.960
<v Speaker 2>he's brought.

1564
01:31:17.079 --> 01:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Would be funny if I fucking wouldn't it be funny

1565
01:31:22.039 --> 01:31:25.039
<v Speaker 1>if Tony just picked up AW and move that to

1566
01:31:25.039 --> 01:31:26.079
<v Speaker 1>Saudi Arabia too?

1567
01:31:28.640 --> 01:31:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Saudi Arabia, you're hubbed for professional wrestling, that's

1568
01:31:33.479 --> 01:31:41.000
<v Speaker 2>why not? Why not? Just yeah, that's so great, man.

1569
01:31:41.199 --> 01:31:44.880
<v Speaker 2>The ww pay per views are on it three fifteen

1570
01:31:44.920 --> 01:31:50.520
<v Speaker 2>in the morning. Dude, did you watch AW live? I

1571
01:31:50.560 --> 01:31:53.159
<v Speaker 2>don't know, dude, it was on it two thirty in

1572
01:31:53.199 --> 01:31:53.960
<v Speaker 2>the morning.

1573
01:31:56.399 --> 01:31:59.079
<v Speaker 1>Goes to Saudi Arabia. Does that mean TNA has a

1574
01:31:59.079 --> 01:32:00.720
<v Speaker 1>real shot to take out AW?

1575
01:32:01.880 --> 01:32:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god?

1576
01:32:04.039 --> 01:32:06.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean you want to talk about the Great White Hope.

1577
01:32:06.520 --> 01:32:08.479
<v Speaker 1>I know we were joking about that. People are throwing

1578
01:32:08.479 --> 01:32:11.920
<v Speaker 1>a Barreon Corbyn's picture, but would TNA be the Great

1579
01:32:11.920 --> 01:32:14.079
<v Speaker 1>White Hope against AEW?

1580
01:32:17.079 --> 01:32:21.079
<v Speaker 2>TNA is just like, what's it like when like the

1581
01:32:21.159 --> 01:32:23.720
<v Speaker 2>Royal family where it's just like they all like a

1582
01:32:23.720 --> 01:32:26.640
<v Speaker 2>bunch of people just get the fucking plague and then

1583
01:32:26.680 --> 01:32:30.079
<v Speaker 2>like the third Duke is just sitting there like, oh, shoot,

1584
01:32:30.119 --> 01:32:34.560
<v Speaker 2>I guess I'm the King Gowa Like by way of

1585
01:32:34.640 --> 01:32:38.479
<v Speaker 2>being alive, sir, you have won the crown.

1586
01:32:38.640 --> 01:32:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I was just going to bring back Dixie Carter, Jeff Jarrett,

1587
01:32:42.880 --> 01:32:44.960
<v Speaker 1>so Jim Cornett.

1588
01:32:44.479 --> 01:32:48.479
<v Speaker 2>Dude, Mike Kingdom for a Jeff Jarrett booked Wrestling Promotion

1589
01:32:48.600 --> 01:32:51.039
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty six. How fucking sad is that?

1590
01:32:51.439 --> 01:32:53.760
<v Speaker 1>But he's another guy who doesn't like the new style

1591
01:32:53.840 --> 01:32:56.239
<v Speaker 1>of wrestling. He's not a fan of this newer shit.

1592
01:32:57.159 --> 01:32:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like I it's we've read

1593
01:33:00.279 --> 01:33:04.840
<v Speaker 2>that point of just destitution that a guy that, like

1594
01:33:05.159 --> 01:33:08.159
<v Speaker 2>people on the Internet and from the Indies and whatever,

1595
01:33:08.319 --> 01:33:13.119
<v Speaker 2>many many different facets of wrestling mocked and denigrated fucking

1596
01:33:13.319 --> 01:33:18.399
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Jarrett. Now we're like, please, I would take all

1597
01:33:18.479 --> 01:33:21.640
<v Speaker 2>of the Jeff Jarrett booking compared to this other show.

1598
01:33:22.079 --> 01:33:25.399
<v Speaker 2>At this point, I'd take Jeff Jarrett putting himself in

1599
01:33:25.479 --> 01:33:30.279
<v Speaker 2>a fucking main event, even as a seventy thousand year

1600
01:33:30.319 --> 01:33:33.840
<v Speaker 2>old man. If you can make the undercard makes sense

1601
01:33:34.359 --> 01:33:37.399
<v Speaker 2>and have the the booking be decent and the match

1602
01:33:37.520 --> 01:33:40.600
<v Speaker 2>is not be all the same shit. I could, I

1603
01:33:40.640 --> 01:33:42.520
<v Speaker 2>could put my hand on a walk away from it,

1604
01:33:42.600 --> 01:33:46.399
<v Speaker 2>because at this point, a Jeff Jarrett main event and

1605
01:33:46.479 --> 01:33:49.760
<v Speaker 2>a Roman Reigns main event, at least I'll believe the

1606
01:33:49.800 --> 01:33:54.119
<v Speaker 2>punch is thrown in the Jeff Jarrett event, at least

1607
01:33:54.319 --> 01:33:56.359
<v Speaker 2>at least the work. I'll hey, you know what, if

1608
01:33:56.359 --> 01:33:58.439
<v Speaker 2>somebody hit him and he fell on the mat, he'd

1609
01:33:58.479 --> 01:34:01.840
<v Speaker 2>stay down there, That's what he'd Fucking Roman Reigns ain't

1610
01:34:01.840 --> 01:34:03.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna do that for you. It's a face, baby face,

1611
01:34:03.760 --> 01:34:07.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, baby face. It's I don't know, man, it's

1612
01:34:07.880 --> 01:34:11.600
<v Speaker 2>an interesting it's an interesting time to be watching this ship. Yeah,

1613
01:34:11.640 --> 01:34:13.840
<v Speaker 2>and we're free of a pay per view for what

1614
01:34:13.920 --> 01:34:19.039
<v Speaker 2>another or two months. Yeah, they're gonna throw another one

1615
01:34:19.039 --> 01:34:22.279
<v Speaker 2>in there, bash and bag Dad said, where they're gonna

1616
01:34:22.560 --> 01:34:25.159
<v Speaker 2>throw at us? Where are they going next? Not Hawaii?

1617
01:34:25.279 --> 01:34:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Right, Hawaii's coming up too. I saw that you want

1618
01:34:28.600 --> 01:34:29.439
<v Speaker 1>to show in Hawaii?

1619
01:34:29.560 --> 01:34:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for the.

1620
01:34:30.039 --> 01:34:32.720
<v Speaker 1>First time and what seven fucking years?

1621
01:34:33.800 --> 01:34:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Do you know how funny it would be if they

1622
01:34:35.279 --> 01:34:37.319
<v Speaker 2>did a show in Hawaii and they didn't get any

1623
01:34:37.359 --> 01:34:40.039
<v Speaker 2>of the Samoans. That'd be hilarious, That would be great.

1624
01:34:42.079 --> 01:34:46.319
<v Speaker 1>The headliner Hawaiian Samoans are not invited to the Hawaiian show.

1625
01:34:47.279 --> 01:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>That is it like September or something like that? Dan,

1626
01:34:49.920 --> 01:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I know, Dan's quick on this ship. What's the date

1627
01:34:52.640 --> 01:34:54.039
<v Speaker 1>of the Hawaii tour.

1628
01:34:55.399 --> 01:34:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Man? But yeah, it's this year. I want September. I

1629
01:34:57.880 --> 01:34:58.199
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

1630
01:34:58.239 --> 01:35:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I think they even have a They don't have like

1631
01:35:00.760 --> 01:35:03.439
<v Speaker 1>a Monday or Saturday night's main event for it.

1632
01:35:03.479 --> 01:35:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Do they? If they do a Wow Saturday events in Hawaii,

1633
01:35:08.920 --> 01:35:14.359
<v Speaker 2>it would still be daylight? Yeah? Right, if they did,

1634
01:35:14.479 --> 01:35:17.199
<v Speaker 2>you know how funny, We're actually not even funny, It

1635
01:35:17.239 --> 01:35:21.199
<v Speaker 2>would honestly at least be kind of creative and cool

1636
01:35:21.239 --> 01:35:25.039
<v Speaker 2>to see where if they did an outdoors kind of

1637
01:35:25.119 --> 01:35:28.399
<v Speaker 2>venue that was a little bit more open Friday Friday,

1638
01:35:28.399 --> 01:35:33.319
<v Speaker 2>October sixteenth, Thank you, Dan, Okay, what's the okay? So

1639
01:35:33.359 --> 01:35:35.039
<v Speaker 2>it's just a regular show. It's not a pay per

1640
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<v Speaker 2>view or anything. Right, it's the Blasi Dell Blaze, Dell

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<v Speaker 2>Arena and Honolulu General Public on sale August fourteenth, Exclusive

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<v Speaker 2>presale August twelfth. Yeah, it's August fourteenth. Show. Turning out

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<v Speaker 2>it is expensive as shit and just living in Hawaii,

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01:35:54.800 --> 01:35:59.359
<v Speaker 2>it's a SmackDown. Oh imagine how much money they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>charge for those WWE tickets. Good happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the cheapest thing on the whole fucking island.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, well that well, that would be the funny thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like for them, the people that are living there, like,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't they don't get WWE. They got any wrestling

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<v Speaker 2>and shit, I'm sure, but they don't get WWE. So

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01:36:20.159 --> 01:36:23.479
<v Speaker 2>if they make this into an event and they're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like I said, a nice open air, kind

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01:36:26.199 --> 01:36:29.760
<v Speaker 2>of outdoor themed, They're not going to spend the money.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm literally just putting pie in the sky here. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're doing fucking Rainbow Warriors field.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe. Just hey, that would be kind of cool, that

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<v Speaker 2>would you know, like something along those lines, like do

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<v Speaker 2>you know what it is if they decided to run

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<v Speaker 2>in Hawaii and have cheaper tickets but a themed kind

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<v Speaker 2>of venue and its cool. W W don't do anymore, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, you know, that's for that's for fools. That's

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01:36:58.359 --> 01:37:03.840
<v Speaker 2>for fools, and they just do AI graphics. Now that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's what you get. I can't wait to see how

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<v Speaker 2>chat GVT spells Honolulu, Hawaii. That's gonna be great to

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<v Speaker 2>see them try to do that on pictures. But no,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, so that's well, that's not even the next

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<v Speaker 2>pay per view, so well we got some time. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that we're done for the pay per views

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<v Speaker 2>until September. Well, we'll be back tomorrow for Frank and Gus.

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<v Speaker 2>Much love.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure to check out John Draper and the guys

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<v Speaker 1>over on Spitball Media. I know Chocolate did a show

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<v Speaker 1>with Don Reynolds. What was it called on something on Wednesdays.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't fucking know. It's on Uh, it's on the

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<v Speaker 1>Wrestling Soup and Frindos Feed though, you can check it

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<v Speaker 1>out there and uh yeah, much love to Drew Yari.

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<v Speaker 2>And h R CWR Show, et cetera. So much love. Guys,

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<v Speaker 2>talk too soon. Yeah, he's the takes because I get.

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<v Speaker 4>Calls, call I meet yours, call your nervous call this

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<v Speaker 4>day about that you can take the soup this day

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<v Speaker 4>about the you can take the soup you callin meets

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<v Speaker 4>your normous ca