Speaker 1: It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on
Speaker 1: Sports Talk seven nine day. Now, here's Nick Coffee.
Speaker 2: All right, hour number two here on a Thursday afternoon
Speaker 2: Coffee and company. That's us and we are fueled by
Speaker 2: Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. You knew that,
Speaker 2: but I just like saying it. We also have Austin
Speaker 2: Montgomery back with us today, and I like saying that
Speaker 2: too because I like having him around. Good vibes, good vibes.
Speaker 2: And really, since we've been you know, an item together
Speaker 2: here on the air, really since I guess it's been gosh,
Speaker 2: a few months now, right, Like I said, I feel
Speaker 2: like it's been a few weeks, but actually it's not.
Speaker 2: It's been a few months. It's our few month adversary,
Speaker 2: it's probably and Louisville basketball is UH is in a
Speaker 2: good place and that's been a lot of fun and
Speaker 2: I hope the fund continues. But I was complaining at
Speaker 2: the start of the show today because I hate having
Speaker 2: to wait for this team to to play because I
Speaker 2: want to watch them every day, but they are off
Speaker 2: until Tuesday. They'll bring in wake Forest and currently wake
Speaker 2: Forest a team that I guess is kind of sniffing
Speaker 2: the bubble. I guess you could. I mean, what I
Speaker 2: don't know is like, if you're on the outside looking in,
Speaker 2: how deep do you have to be outside for you
Speaker 2: to be considered a bubble team? Because Wake, you know
Speaker 2: they're not in the first full out of the next
Speaker 2: four out there in that next group, So I guess
Speaker 2: technically you're still alive, but doesn't look promising and went
Speaker 2: over Louisville as sadly as it sounds, could be a
Speaker 2: big difference maker for him, and used to be, Hey,
Speaker 2: beat Louisll at Louisville would be a big deal to anybody,
Speaker 2: but obviously that's not been the case for a little
Speaker 2: while now. But currently this is a game Louisville is
Speaker 2: projected to win seventy five to sixty five according to
Speaker 2: Ken Palm. And before they make the trip to Louisvill
Speaker 2: they'll be hosting Duke on Saturday, and that is the
Speaker 2: game they're projected to lose seventy two to sixty. So
Speaker 2: right now, Wake for is good record. I mean, they're
Speaker 2: fifteen and four overall and it looks like they have
Speaker 2: just the one loss in league play, and that came
Speaker 2: against the kame against Clemson, who is one of the
Speaker 2: better teams in the league, so maybe they are legit.
Speaker 2: They beat Carolina the other night. That's actually a good
Speaker 2: win for him as well, even though Carolina is struggling.
Speaker 2: They're certain the alant a bad team. So the losses
Speaker 2: for Wake right now Xavier, Florida, Texas, A and M
Speaker 2: and Clemson, so three of their losses are against top
Speaker 2: twenty five teams. When it comes to the Kimpom ranking,
Speaker 2: Xavier is a team that's not there. They're forty fifth
Speaker 2: right now. In fact, let me back up, I didn't
Speaker 2: realize it. Maybe this Wake Forest team is actually I mean,
Speaker 2: in fact, I'm kind of wondering why their resume is
Speaker 2: not better because again, no bad loss, and they have
Speaker 2: wins against Michigan, who's number twelve in the km POM.
Speaker 2: I mean, Dusty Mace team's been pretty good. They look
Speaker 2: like one of the better teams in the Big ten.
Speaker 2: So that's a good win for him. But it looks
Speaker 2: like they're number are so bad. Look, this is something
Speaker 2: you can control, you know. Steve Forbes is somebody that
Speaker 2: I happen to like. I don't know how great of
Speaker 2: a coach he is, but I think he's I think
Speaker 2: he's good, and I always feel like he's the coach
Speaker 2: that will have a team that's dangerous enough to where
Speaker 2: if they get rolling, maybe they don't make a deep
Speaker 2: run to the tournament, because in fact, I don't think
Speaker 2: they've made the tournament. Und Steve Forbes feel like they'll
Speaker 2: mess around and beat somebody just because of how they play.
Speaker 2: And you know, I think he's done a pretty good
Speaker 2: job of putting his roster together there. But there's no
Speaker 2: excuse to have this schedule because you've been there long
Speaker 2: enough to where you can't blame I mean, how long
Speaker 2: has Steve Forbes has been there? At least four years? Yeah,
Speaker 2: he got hired in twenty Let's see, he got hired
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, so this is his fifth year
Speaker 2: at Wake Forest. There's no way these games on the
Speaker 2: schedule are what he inherited. So he's building his schedule
Speaker 2: with Coppin State and North Carolina A and T, two
Speaker 2: teams that are three hundred and twenty one and up.
Speaker 2: In fact, Coppin State's three sixty two. That's got to
Speaker 2: be one of the worst teams in the country. That
Speaker 2: you play and you only beat them by fifteen, Like
Speaker 2: just playing that team is a metric l I mean,
Speaker 2: this is I think I now answered my own question.
Speaker 2: The reason they have a good record and they have
Speaker 2: no bad losses, and they have a couple of valuable wins,
Speaker 2: but yet they're still not in the tournament or really
Speaker 2: even close to the to the you know, looks like
Speaker 2: they're trying to get on the bubble is because of
Speaker 2: their schedule. Like this was avoidable too, by the way,
Speaker 2: Like this has got to be killing wake Forest. In
Speaker 2: the numbers again, they're fifteen and four overall. They have
Speaker 2: a win over number twelve in the kin Pom. They
Speaker 2: have a win over number thirty three in the kin Palm.
Speaker 2: All their losses outside of one are in the top
Speaker 2: twenty five, and the one that's outside of the top
Speaker 2: twenty five is forty five. It's not like it's a
Speaker 2: I mean, in fact, it's a quad one loss for them.
Speaker 2: So they played Coppin State, who's three sixty two in
Speaker 2: the kin Palm, and only beat them by fifteen. They
Speaker 2: played usc Upstate, who is three point thirty eight in
Speaker 2: the kin Palm, only beat them by five. They play
Speaker 2: Western Carolina and only beat them by thirteen. They played
Speaker 2: Detroit Mercy and only beat them by ten. And I'm
Speaker 2: not saying this is the way that it should be,
Speaker 2: but it's a known thing. Playing those teams is dangerous,
Speaker 2: not because you might lose to them, but you could
Speaker 2: get crushed in numbers that are used to seed and
Speaker 2: field the NCAA tournament. This is avoidable. It's absolutely avoidable.
Speaker 2: They've played four three hundred range teams in the kin
Speaker 2: Pom and they didn't blow them out. I mean, Louisville
Speaker 2: beat Bellerman by thirty and fell in the Knpom Like
Speaker 2: that tells you what you have to do. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying it's right, because clearly the formulas flawed. You shouldn't
Speaker 2: be held to the standard of beating teams by like
Speaker 2: fifty in order to make a big jump. And quite literally,
Speaker 2: if you were to play one of these teams now
Speaker 2: in the three hundreds, if you didn't beat them by thirty,
Speaker 2: I bet you would fall maybe substantially. So again I'm
Speaker 2: not saying it's right, but it's clear this is how
Speaker 2: it works, and you have control. You have to I mean,
Speaker 2: this is the game. You got to know how to
Speaker 2: play and scheduling these teams is just stupid. I mean
Speaker 2: also another issue that I've had for years when it
Speaker 2: comes to both the KNPALM and the NET and really
Speaker 2: any of them. They don't factor winning and losing as
Speaker 2: much as they should because you can clearly be a
Speaker 2: team like North Carolina right now, I mean Carolina right
Speaker 2: now is let's see, the KNPOM loves them. I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's the case in the NET. I feel
Speaker 2: like they weren't as high in the NET, but still
Speaker 2: Carolina right now they are in the NET rankings, Carolina
Speaker 2: is at thirty nine. That's not that good, right But overall,
Speaker 2: listen to this, Carolina is in the top forty of
Speaker 2: the NET rankings and they are only twelve and eight.
Speaker 2: But every one of their losses until the last two
Speaker 2: were to really good teams Louisville, Florida, Alabama, Michigan State,
Speaker 2: Auburn Camp. So six of Carolina's eight losses are to
Speaker 2: teams in the top twenty three, and they played all
Speaker 2: of them competitively outside of gosh, and that's what's weird
Speaker 2: about Carolina. You know, they didn't beat any great teams.
Speaker 2: They played a lot of really good ones, and they
Speaker 2: were right there, could have won a couple of them.
Speaker 2: So you know, they just and again I guess I
Speaker 2: should want to prop up the ACC and Carolina, especially
Speaker 2: considering Louisville beat them, and that's a win that you know,
Speaker 2: the better they look, the better the win is for Louisville.
Speaker 2: But they're twelve and eight. They shouldn't They shouldn't be
Speaker 2: even considered a bubble team. They shouldn't be top forty
Speaker 2: in any metric when you have that many losses. And
Speaker 2: by the way, their last two losses are bad ones.
Speaker 2: Stanford eightieth, Wake four is seventy seven. Those are the
Speaker 2: two losses that they have. I mean, the win against
Speaker 2: UCLA looks decent. They had a win against Dayton that
Speaker 2: I thought was going to be solid. Dayton's kind of
Speaker 2: falling apart in the A ten. And so you know
Speaker 2: Wake Forest. I mean that if I was a fan,
Speaker 2: like a diehard fan of Wake Forest, like I am
Speaker 2: a diehard fan of Louisville basketball, and I was in
Speaker 2: the position that they were in, I'd be livid at
Speaker 2: my coach because that's avoidable. You don't need to play
Speaker 2: those teams, and it's quite literally put you in a
Speaker 2: position to where right like the projected the projected finish
Speaker 2: for wake Forest here, like let's say they let's say
Speaker 2: Wake Forest loses to Duke in Louisville, but they beat
Speaker 2: Pitt Stanford, Cal Florida State, lose to SMU, beat NC State,
Speaker 2: beat Virginia, beat Notre Dame, lose to Duke, beat Georgia Tech.
Speaker 2: That's a very I could see that being the absolute
Speaker 2: finish for them in all seriousness, and if that was
Speaker 2: because of how down the league is right now, meaning
Speaker 2: like a lot of these teams are going to play
Speaker 2: the rest of the way or borderline top one hundred
Speaker 2: in these formulas. Therefore, you could have a gaudy record,
Speaker 2: but your net and your kin palm will probably be,
Speaker 2: you know, not even top fifty. And yet you're gonna
Speaker 2: have a record that might look like fourteen and six
Speaker 2: in the in the ACC twenty two and nine overall,
Speaker 2: and I don't even I mean, I don't even know
Speaker 2: what they would do with you when it comes to that.
Speaker 2: So you know, you really should never schedule in the
Speaker 2: three hundreds. But if you're gonna do it, one, you
Speaker 2: better beat them bad, and you better play in a
Speaker 2: loaded league. To where you're gonna have countless opportunities to
Speaker 2: play really good teams of value, and even if you lose,
Speaker 2: you're losing to good teams, so it's not held against
Speaker 2: you too much. I mean, the ACC is not that anymore. So.
Speaker 2: I mean I kind of feel like wake Forest needs
Speaker 2: to steal a game against like Duke in order to
Speaker 2: feel like they've got a real shot to get in.
Speaker 2: And of course not, you know, slip up and lose
Speaker 2: to to anybody else that you know you shouldn't lose to,
Speaker 2: all right. Pat Kelsey was on with the crew at
Speaker 2: the Field of sixty eight. John Fanta Love John Fanta, Milf? Man,
Speaker 2: I love Fanta. That's milf, right, yeah, man, I love
Speaker 2: Fanta Milf. We're milfing like whenever, Like I don't know
Speaker 2: if you guys do it and me and my me
Speaker 2: and my boys do it. When we're watching a college
Speaker 2: basketball game that happens to be on Fox and we
Speaker 2: got Phanto on the call with the Big East, you know,
Speaker 2: just send out the signal. It's milftime, the milf signal.
Speaker 2: It's milftime, baby, man, I love Fanta. Let's lock in
Speaker 2: and watch some college basketball with the most electrifying man
Speaker 2: in the game man. He brought some juice to Louisville
Speaker 2: for the fe for the for the TVT when he
Speaker 2: was on the call Love Me Some John Phantom. So
Speaker 2: he had Pat Kelsey on like a thirty minute conversation,
Speaker 2: which you know, I'm not going to play the entire
Speaker 2: thing for you because you know, we don't even have
Speaker 2: segments that can be that long. But there's some clips
Speaker 2: that I want you guys to to hear. This is uh,
Speaker 2: this is just a couple of minutes here, and it's
Speaker 2: it's just Pat talking about his team and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: gassing up these guys that have been really really great
Speaker 2: for this program. And you know it's gonna sound really corny,
Speaker 2: but there's little things that you can see, like the
Speaker 2: story that we can get to later that that that
Speaker 2: is now out there about one of the players on
Speaker 2: SMU wouldn't shake Johnny ball Game's hand in the handshake line.
Speaker 2: I guess he was just, oh, I mean when he
Speaker 2: was a little he was bitter, kind of being a
Speaker 2: little bitch about it. But also you know, I mean
Speaker 2: what he was like, if you're in the handshake line
Speaker 2: and you refuse to shake a little kid's hand because
Speaker 2: you're like acting like a bitch because you're bothered that
Speaker 2: a kid is in the handshake line, like you're just
Speaker 2: a sore loser like you are, you're weak. So yeah, chucky, chucky.
Speaker 2: Hepburn tracked the guy down who didn't shake hands and
Speaker 2: made him shake Johnny ball Game's hand, which, by the way,
Speaker 2: Alpha moved by Chucky. Goodness gracious because the guy did
Speaker 2: shake his hand after that, like godfather, yea, Like you know,
Speaker 2: I just I just sunned you out here on the floor.
Speaker 2: I'll be damned if you're gonna not show some respect
Speaker 2: to Johnny ball Game. He's one of us. So little
Speaker 2: things like that, it does seem as if Pat Kelsey
Speaker 2: was able to get guys that aren't just you know,
Speaker 2: able to play the way he wants to play and
Speaker 2: buy into the system. But also like, I think these
Speaker 2: guys are are really really good teammates to one another,
Speaker 2: and they've got a real good chemistry. There's not a
Speaker 2: lot of selfishness. In fact, I don't think there's any
Speaker 2: selfishness going on, which again, that's what you want. That's
Speaker 2: one of those things where you you don't want to
Speaker 2: necessarily really overdo it when it comes to a plotting
Speaker 2: a team for doing what they're supposed to do. But
Speaker 2: they're all brand new to each other, like they you know,
Speaker 2: so that makes it. You know, it's not to say
Speaker 2: that like it's it's never been seen before, but like,
Speaker 2: I don't think it. I don't think what they've been
Speaker 2: able to do right now is something that a lot
Speaker 2: of a lot of others would be able to recreate
Speaker 2: the way they have. They've just got a real good
Speaker 2: energy about them and they're never too high and never
Speaker 2: too low. I mean, they went through a rough stretch injuries,
Speaker 2: piling up losses to you know, but teams that are good.
Speaker 2: But man, they got blown out in some of them,
Speaker 2: and yet they came out ready to play. They got
Speaker 2: they should have got beat by Eku, But I kind
Speaker 2: of feel like that moment there was was the moment
Speaker 2: that I don't know if this if they were if
Speaker 2: they got scared, if I don't know what was done
Speaker 2: in practice after that, but I'm telling you, when they
Speaker 2: came out against Caroline at the beginning of January, there
Speaker 2: was just a little extra edge to this team and
Speaker 2: they've been rolling with some real momentum ever since then,
Speaker 2: here's Pat Kelsey. It's about two and a half minutes.
Speaker 2: We'll get to a break after this, but this is
Speaker 2: him discussing his guys, which you know, I'm sure I'm
Speaker 2: not the only love of a fan that any kind
Speaker 2: of stuff like this, any sound, any content of Pat
Speaker 2: Kelsey in this team, I'm all in on right now.
Speaker 3: Gosh, it's hard to just single a lot a couple guys.
Speaker 3: And I know you asked about reigning James and I'll
Speaker 3: talk about them in a second. But the power of
Speaker 3: the unit is what we talk about. The power of
Speaker 3: the unit is what makes this team really good. We're deep,
Speaker 3: We've had multiple guys. I mean, I think it's four
Speaker 3: guys have had over twenty seven points in a game
Speaker 3: this year, something like that, twenty five. So it's like
Speaker 3: you can't just circle one guy on the scouting report.
Speaker 3: CHUCKI Hepburn's one of the best point guards in the country.
Speaker 3: Javon Hadley is a flat outstinking that's as versatable player
Speaker 3: versatile you know of a players there is in the country.
Speaker 3: Terrence Edwards, who's calling card is that of a score Deluxe,
Speaker 3: but man, he has been over the last month in
Speaker 3: this nine game winning streak, the heart and soul and
Speaker 3: the catalyst of our defense. You know you mentioned Rayin Smith.
Speaker 3: Hands down, in my opinion, the best shooter in the country,
Speaker 3: the best shooter that I've ever coached. I mean, he
Speaker 3: broke the school record at Charleston last year with ten
Speaker 3: threes in a game, and then two weeks later he
Speaker 3: broke it with eleven, and then he had that magical
Speaker 3: performance last night. But he's so much more than just
Speaker 3: a jump shooter.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Skip used to say, you can't just be a suburban
Speaker 3: jump shooter, and he's sure as heck, isn't. He's tough,
Speaker 3: he's gritty, he's as buttoned up on scouting report as
Speaker 3: anybody I've ever coached. He's an extension of the coach
Speaker 3: on the floor, and he's a fun nomenal young man.
Speaker 3: And it's so fun to see the nation take notice
Speaker 3: as to the calibary player he is. James Scott. He's
Speaker 3: one of my favorite players I've ever coached. I've never
Speaker 3: met a more devoted committed basketball player.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've coached hundreds of players, and I've never
Speaker 3: seen anybody that you absolutely positively have to drag out
Speaker 3: of the gym. He's a savant in terms of just
Speaker 3: you know, his understanding at a young age of basketball concepts.
Speaker 3: I think he's close to leading the country and dunks,
Speaker 3: but there's so much more to him than just dunking
Speaker 3: the basketball. And you know, it's great to see those
Speaker 3: guys come from a quote unquote lower level and come
Speaker 3: here and just thrive and succeed. And it's fun to see.
Speaker 2: Man Pat Kelsey. He could charge a lot of money
Speaker 2: on cameo just to gas people up. He's pretty good
Speaker 2: at that. We all need a boy like that, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like one of your boys that
Speaker 2: can just you know, yeah, can gash you up in
Speaker 2: a way to make you believe it even if it's nonsense,
Speaker 2: Like you know what, you're right, I am the man.
Speaker 4: You did see that video right that I sent you
Speaker 4: where he's driving down the road. I got some fans
Speaker 4: took a failure of him, and I mean he's just
Speaker 4: charged up what other coaches.
Speaker 2: Are doing that And it's so him too, Like it's
Speaker 2: it's something that you know, who knows. Maybe the person
Speaker 2: that had it like isn't big on social media. They
Speaker 2: just thought it was cool. But you know, I felt
Speaker 2: like it was one of those things where we're seeing
Speaker 2: him when there's not a whole lot of people around,
Speaker 2: and he's he's That's exactly who I think he is, right,
Speaker 2: the guy they would roll his window down and you know,
Speaker 2: be fired up because fans next to him on on
Speaker 2: you know, whatever road he was on, they recognized him
Speaker 2: and they're excited because Louisville basketball's back. It's just a
Speaker 2: couple of boys throwing als up. It's right, good stuff.
Speaker 2: Quick break will come back here on the other side,
Speaker 2: give it a lock. Sports Talk seven.
Speaker 1: Ninety now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's
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Speaker 2: Maybe it was just your music that I missed the
Speaker 2: most yesterday because yeah, because you're bringing it, you're bringing
Speaker 2: it again today.
Speaker 4: Good stuff, hus Thank you, sergy. Do you see my
Speaker 4: faces turning around?
Speaker 2: You're giving us the soundtrack that I feel like is
Speaker 2: a good fit for for what we do here, which again,
Speaker 2: it's a show. It's you know, it's it's a show,
Speaker 2: and uh, it's a little bit of everything I like. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the tunes, the tunes are a part of it, and
Speaker 2: we really have no when it comes to music, it
Speaker 2: seems like when it when you bring us back, there's
Speaker 2: really no genre that you won't that you won't include
Speaker 2: in the show. I'm everywhere, dude, and I kind of
Speaker 2: feel like that's the show. Like we're supposed to be
Speaker 2: a sports show, and we are. We're a little bit everywhere,
Speaker 2: but yeah, we go a lot of different places, and
Speaker 2: it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: Talk about Louisville basketball here, a monstrous basses over here, yep,
Speaker 4: getting snowed in.
Speaker 2: That's right, And this is something that probably wouldn't have
Speaker 2: been on the list for anybody if they were predicting
Speaker 2: topics today. But I got the podcast up from yesterday's
Speaker 2: show a little bit earlier, and it wasn't up yesterday
Speaker 2: after the show apology. I literally just forgot about it
Speaker 2: whenever Austin's out. I don't know if I have to
Speaker 2: do it, but it's easier for me to just do it,
Speaker 2: because if I emailed somebody and said, hey, can somebody
Speaker 2: get the podcast, it probably would have gotten taken care of,
Speaker 2: you know, later than when I would just do it.
Speaker 2: So anyways, I'm looking here in our portal and we
Speaker 2: can see, you know, numbers and whatnot. And I rarely
Speaker 2: check this because I'm somebody that if I if I've
Speaker 2: made it a point to look at our numbers on
Speaker 2: the podcast every day, I would obsess over it. So
Speaker 2: I'd check on it every now and then. And you know,
Speaker 2: if I go a few months without looking and then
Speaker 2: I check it out, I'm usually pretty pleased and happy
Speaker 2: to see that we're continuing to grow, which is you
Speaker 2: know what you want. But we also can check the
Speaker 2: location of where people are downloading the podcast, and this
Speaker 2: is the percentage of and I've always I've always found
Speaker 2: this to be interesting and I haven't looked at it
Speaker 2: in a long long time. But when it comes to
Speaker 2: the downloads that we have currently in the month of January,
Speaker 2: sixty one percent of those downloads have come from this state,
Speaker 2: so not a surprise. Kentucky. Eleven point three percent have
Speaker 2: come from Indiana. OK. So Kentucky Indiana takes up seventy
Speaker 2: roughly seventy two percent, basically three fourths of our of
Speaker 2: our podcast audience. And then it's really it's really balanced
Speaker 2: everywhere else. But we have a new leader. I went
Speaker 2: back and checked because I don't remember this being the case,
Speaker 2: so not a new leader overall, but I guess a
Speaker 2: new leader for third, like everybody's gonna always be, because
Speaker 2: I'm sure these states really make it a priority to
Speaker 2: be third place in the Coffee and Company State State's
Speaker 2: podcaking for positions, Yeah, it's I mean, I think that's
Speaker 2: how a lot of guys in those states got elected.
Speaker 2: They were pushing, hey, we will make sure we climb
Speaker 2: the Coffee and Company Podcast download state. We're gonna be
Speaker 2: We're gonna be top three behind Kentucky and Indiana. But
Speaker 2: it was Texas for a long time, and I just
Speaker 2: found that to be really, really weird. So let me
Speaker 2: just give you a rundown of the numbers here. So
Speaker 2: there are four states that have two point two percent
Speaker 2: up to three point five percent, So you know, you
Speaker 2: add that up, that gets you a like you know,
Speaker 2: in the in the early eighties when it comes to
Speaker 2: the percentages of our listeners, and then elsewhere it's just
Speaker 2: you know, one one percent in California, point nine three
Speaker 2: percent in New York. But for the longest time, Texas
Speaker 2: was at number three anytime I looked, and right now
Speaker 2: they have fallen to fourth place. In Florida, the Sunshine
Speaker 2: State is now in third place where we have three
Speaker 2: point five of competitive in our ratings. You know, and
Speaker 2: I mean this when I say it, this is a
Speaker 2: lot of fun. And I think what's made me be
Speaker 2: able to continue to do it as as you know,
Speaker 2: as long as I have and very fortunate, certainly not
Speaker 2: probably the best at what I do, but I do
Speaker 2: try to try my best, and you know, so far
Speaker 2: I'm able to still do it, so things are great. However,
Speaker 2: I just I rarely ever think about hmm, like I
Speaker 2: wonder who's listening, and radio is a very rare platform
Speaker 2: this day and age, where where we are in a
Speaker 2: top fifty, we're outside of a top fifty media market.
Speaker 2: So the way in which they gather listenership that's not
Speaker 2: streaming or podcast downloads, just like live listening on your
Speaker 2: radio dial, there's no way to actually know and the
Speaker 2: way that you do it it is. I mean, there
Speaker 2: can't be something that is consumed and something that is
Speaker 2: so popular as far as how it's utilized by nearly
Speaker 2: everybody on the planet. It seems like I'm not acting
Speaker 2: like radio hasn't had some new competition with other platforms
Speaker 2: and whatnot, but still people listen to the radio, whether
Speaker 2: it be in their car or on the iHeart Radio app. Like,
Speaker 2: the amount of people that listen and consume some piece
Speaker 2: of radio in one form of fashion at least once
Speaker 2: a day has continued to grow over the years. Like
Speaker 2: it's not dying, like people say, again, it's different than
Speaker 2: it once was, and clearly there's been some big adjustments made.
Speaker 2: But talk radio is a little bit different because we
Speaker 2: are the content. When it comes to music, you now
Speaker 2: have you know, all different ways you can get it.
Speaker 2: If you happen to like this show, Hell yeah, well
Speaker 2: you know there's only one place you can get it,
Speaker 2: and you know that's that's here. So that's why I
Speaker 2: talk radio has been able to kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: really be in its own lane when it comes to
Speaker 2: other formats of radio. But what I'm getting at is,
Speaker 2: like I rarely ever think about who listens. And the
Speaker 2: way they do it now is if like you get
Speaker 2: a random piece of mail from Nielsen that asks you
Speaker 2: if you listen to radio, and then you like, can
Speaker 2: you can actually? Now I think it's a QR code.
Speaker 2: You get out of your phone, you do the QR
Speaker 2: code and it'll pull up that they send it to
Speaker 2: your address with your name, and then you agree to
Speaker 2: sign up to tell them like your listening habits of
Speaker 2: what you listen to on the radio, and if you
Speaker 2: do that and send it back to them, they will
Speaker 2: send you like a ten dollars gift card to different
Speaker 2: companies you can pick from. Like I think somebody told
Speaker 2: me that they put they put you in the journal,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, cool. I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: going to do a whole lot, but I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: But they got a ten dollars Papa John's gift card
Speaker 2: out of it, So you know, that's how they do it.
Speaker 2: And there are a lot of people who listen and
Speaker 2: that would never even like look at that piece of
Speaker 2: mail that comes in. So you know, I've had numbers
Speaker 2: that are like wow, like is that real. That's awesome.
Speaker 2: But I've also had numbers that I'm like, wait a second,
Speaker 2: that doesn't make any sense because again, the way they
Speaker 2: do it, like it's just impossible. So that has just
Speaker 2: given me the mindset since the early days of doing
Speaker 2: this to like I can't get caught up. And then
Speaker 2: I got to just try to do a show. And
Speaker 2: I have a very addictive personality and and very you know,
Speaker 2: once I get into something, I'm just I'm kind of obsessed.
Speaker 2: So I'm glad I don't have a real reference point
Speaker 2: because I feel like I would overthink it, and I would,
Speaker 2: I would, you know, get too high and too low
Speaker 2: on certain things, because you know, it's just how I
Speaker 2: am as a person. So anyways, when I look at
Speaker 2: these numbers that show me people listening in like this
Speaker 2: in different states, like I've no clue who that person is,
Speaker 2: but thank you, you know what I mean, Like I
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Like I mean, I'm sure there are many
Speaker 2: shows that do much better numbers than us as far
Speaker 2: as reach and all that, but I'm pretty proud of
Speaker 2: the numbers that we do have in our growth. And
Speaker 2: you know, it's nice to see that there are people
Speaker 2: who I would imagine their reason to download this podcast
Speaker 2: of this show every day and they live in Tennessee
Speaker 2: or Pennsylvania, Illinois. You know, maybe we're giving them that
Speaker 2: connection back home because they're from Louisville and they're Louisville
Speaker 2: fans and maybe they went to U of L. And
Speaker 2: you know, this is their daily fix to kind of
Speaker 2: you know, feel like they're at home.
Speaker 4: So I feel like you don't or right before you
Speaker 4: mentioned that, I feel like that's kind of gone like
Speaker 4: a little bit under the radar because there are a
Speaker 4: lot of people that don't live here that still like
Speaker 4: to consume like Louisville sports, church like it. It's what
Speaker 4: I did when I live back in Arizona, and that's
Speaker 4: why I always forget that they don't They didn't have
Speaker 4: anything like that, so I would always tune in here,
Speaker 4: and I can imagine I'm not the only one. So
Speaker 4: like it gives a sense of people that they feel
Speaker 4: like their home, especially when we're not even talking about
Speaker 4: just like Louisville sports in general. We'd just be talking
Speaker 4: about Louisville things going on in town that kind of
Speaker 4: give people that fix of it feels like they're here
Speaker 4: with us.
Speaker 2: And I've tried to just because you know, for drivet
Speaker 2: time talk r video. I mean, sometimes I wouldn't think
Speaker 2: to do it, but I make it a point to
Speaker 2: check what is newsworthy in the city because that's just
Speaker 2: kind of what this show should be. But to your point,
Speaker 2: there may be people they don't have I mean, their
Speaker 2: local news isn't talking about something that's going on in Louisville, right,
Speaker 2: Chucky hepburn or or just you know, not even sports,
Speaker 2: but just about you know, what's going on in the city.
Speaker 2: And you know, right, we don't do it a whole lot,
Speaker 2: but you know, if there's something that is, you know,
Speaker 2: big enough to where it's it's it's not just a
Speaker 2: topic for people outside of sports, it kind of makes
Speaker 2: his way in. I try to try to include it.
Speaker 2: So again, however, you I'll steal from Colin Cowhard. However
Speaker 2: you're listening, wherever you're listening, we we appreciate you. Something fun, well,
Speaker 2: not really fun.
Speaker 4: So my the the last week, as we talked about,
Speaker 4: it's gotten a little bit warmer. Finally my streets are
Speaker 4: all clear. Oh nice, see it's it's all melted. There's
Speaker 4: still some passed up on the sidewalk. But yesterday morning
Speaker 4: I woke up to one degrees out.
Speaker 2: It is ridiculous.
Speaker 4: And then as because you know, it's still kind of
Speaker 4: dark by the time I wake up at seven o'clock,
Speaker 4: but I look and I see like emergency lights outside
Speaker 4: and it was two fire trucks. Apparently a pipe had
Speaker 4: bursted at the apartments right across the street. Water pipe
Speaker 4: had Bursted. Thank goodness, it didn't do anything to our water,
Speaker 4: our electric or anything like that.
Speaker 2: Am I crazy to think that it's got to be
Speaker 2: because it froze, it had to be.
Speaker 4: And well, of course it got all over our street again,
Speaker 4: and now our streets frozen again.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. So right, that's not I thought you
Speaker 2: were about to tell a good story. That's a terrible story.
Speaker 2: It's awful. Is that ice skating rink right now on
Speaker 2: your street?
Speaker 4: So they and there's there's a lot of streets near us.
Speaker 4: It's closed because for whatever reason, it didn't affect our street,
Speaker 4: but it affected other streets right.
Speaker 2: Next to us. So I don't know if we just
Speaker 2: got lucky. We're in a good zone.
Speaker 4: But now I got to go a different way to
Speaker 4: come to work because you just can't go down that
Speaker 4: whole sheet of ice.
Speaker 2: And it's really unfortunate. Yeah, I mean, I would imagine
Speaker 2: it really just comes down to how long do we
Speaker 2: stay above freezing? Because it's as and this is it's
Speaker 2: not like I've got some big brain up here that
Speaker 2: that's the only one that could come up with this.
Speaker 2: You know this, see this for what it is. We
Speaker 2: get above freezing, but it's not freezing long enough and
Speaker 2: it's not way above freezing to whar it. Some of
Speaker 2: it melts here and there, but then once it gets
Speaker 2: super cold, we get it gets ice. I mean my driveway,
Speaker 2: the snow that came down on what was it? What
Speaker 2: date did it snow? Was it Sunday? Yes, yeah, Sunday
Speaker 2: when it's snow, and then it got super super cold
Speaker 2: my drive like my yard, not my driveway, but like
Speaker 2: my yard, which of course is also a hill, just
Speaker 2: like my driveway, Like it was quite literally just a
Speaker 2: solid sheet of ice. Like I think we could have
Speaker 2: we could have sled down without like breaking through the
Speaker 2: snow and ice, because that's how cold it was. So
Speaker 2: you know, today it's it's above freezing. Some of it's melting,
Speaker 2: but we need like four to five days in the
Speaker 2: forties consecutively for this to all go away. And I
Speaker 2: don't know when we're gonna get there, but I'm tired
Speaker 2: of seeing it. Yeah, it's done with it. It's it's
Speaker 2: pretty gross, there's no doubt about it. All Right. Let
Speaker 2: me tell you something that I just find to be insane.
Speaker 2: This is one of when things happen that are just
Speaker 2: so improbable. Some people think, you know, buy a lottery ticket.
Speaker 2: You're that lucky, right now? What are the chances, Like
Speaker 2: there's some weird juju going on, you need to go
Speaker 2: buy a lottery ticket or something. I've never once thought
Speaker 2: like that, because I feel like even if something that
Speaker 2: I you know, even something that would happen to me,
Speaker 2: that's just like insanely rare, meaning like, what are the chances?
Speaker 2: This is crazy? The thought of me being able to
Speaker 2: then like roll that luck over into winning the lottery
Speaker 2: would be still insanely unlikely, because you know, it's really
Speaker 2: hard to win the lottery, especially when you know it's
Speaker 2: it's in the multi multi millions or maybe close to
Speaker 2: a billion. So I don't know what this means, but
Speaker 2: it's got to mean something like this is this is
Speaker 2: so insane that this has got to be a sign
Speaker 2: from above. There were two college basketball players over the
Speaker 2: weekend that both hit game winning shots. Not that unlikely, right,
Speaker 2: But what if I told you didn't seem like it.
Speaker 2: They were brother and sister. Oh wow, a brother that's good.
Speaker 2: A brother and sister playing college basketball. Both hit game
Speaker 2: winning shots as the clock expired for their teams to
Speaker 2: win on the same day. That is insanity, is it not?
Speaker 2: Like think about the chances of the first of all,
Speaker 2: having two siblings that are that good to play Division
Speaker 2: one college basketball, one at Stanford and one at Vanderbilt
Speaker 2: is insane. The window of time to where they're actually
Speaker 2: playing in the same era, because you know, some siblings
Speaker 2: are older to where they wouldn't be in college at
Speaker 2: the same time. But it was MICHAELA. Blake's who ended
Speaker 2: up hitting the game winner for Bandy, and that, of
Speaker 2: course was there was a big win for Bandy. They
Speaker 2: knocked off rival Tennessee, first time they beat them since
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. And then later on you had her brother
Speaker 2: who plays for Stanford, Jalen, he ended up and that's
Speaker 2: a shot that I remember seeing because of course, I,
Speaker 2: you know, keep up with college basketball, and I saw
Speaker 2: that Carolina lost to the buzzer at home to Stanford.
Speaker 2: Had no clue who the guy was that hit it,
Speaker 2: but sure enough it is her brother. So I mean again,
Speaker 2: it's one of those things where I'm like, wait a second,
Speaker 2: that's insane, that's crazy. I want people to like have
Speaker 2: their jaw on the floor in all of like wa
Speaker 2: whoa wait, no, no way, like because when those kind
Speaker 2: of things happen. I just I just assumed that that
Speaker 2: that's not random, that's not like luck, that's just that's
Speaker 2: got to be a sign from from something or somewhere.
Speaker 2: And I mean, what a weekend for the parents, right.
Speaker 2: Imagine being the parents of these two. I mean, first
Speaker 2: of all, you probably proud as hell anyway, just for
Speaker 2: where they are in their life and what they're doing.
Speaker 2: But man to tune in and watch your daughter get
Speaker 2: the game winner and then see your brother in the
Speaker 2: same or your son in the same moment. I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean again, I feel proud and I'm not even
Speaker 2: a parent.
Speaker 1: Yeh.
Speaker 2: Same here. And look, Stanford's not very good and Carolina
Speaker 2: is down this year, but Stanford winning at Chapel Hill
Speaker 2: is a huge thing, and he did it at the buzzer,
Speaker 2: great moment that they're gonna remember for a long time.
Speaker 2: I'm sure. Same thing. Vandy basketball on the women's side,
Speaker 2: I don't believe they're ever any good, and Tennessee isn't
Speaker 2: what they were under Pat Summit, but still they're better.
Speaker 2: I mean, this first time they beat them in five years,
Speaker 2: So everything about it is just kind of wild. And
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by, but you know, it doesn't take much
Speaker 2: to fascinate me. I'm wired a little bit different, but
Speaker 2: it's just me. All right, quick break, we'll come back
Speaker 2: on the other side, wrap up the four o'clock hour,
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say this, and it's dangerous, but I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna say it. And I hope that this keeps
Speaker 2: you interested in the show to want to hear an
Speaker 2: explanation on the other side. But it's one of those
Speaker 2: things that like, I may say this and people just
Speaker 2: never listen to me again. If that's the case, then whatever,
Speaker 2: Like I can't control that. But Donald Trump is apparently
Speaker 2: considering doing something that I would applaud. I'll tell you
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Speaker 2: It still feels really weird and wrong to do it,
Speaker 2: but I have gotten to the point where I will
Speaker 2: I'll throw away pennies like I just I'm saying they're
Speaker 2: in the way. I don't need them, and I mean,
Speaker 2: I just I My wife is great about making it
Speaker 2: a priority if we have change, which we rarely do
Speaker 2: because we rarely pay cash for anything. And if we
Speaker 2: do pay cash for if I pay cash for something,
Speaker 2: it'll be for a bill at a restaurant, and I
Speaker 2: usually end up not needing change because I tip with
Speaker 2: the cash do it therefore, like there's no like, rarely
Speaker 2: do I buy something and have any change left over.
Speaker 2: You're a good tip What do you mean good riper? Yeah? Oh,
Speaker 2: thank you, I mean thank you. I appreciate that. But
Speaker 2: the change that I do have, when in the rare
Speaker 2: occasion that I have changed, like it just sits in
Speaker 2: my cup holder in my car. Yeah, And sometimes I
Speaker 2: clean out my car and I like, if it's quarters
Speaker 2: and whatnot, I'll actually save those and dimes and whatnot.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, quarters, I really prioritize because if my kids
Speaker 2: are getting restless at a restaurant and we're about to leave,
Speaker 2: but Dad needs to finish his beer because you know,
Speaker 2: it's what he's there to do and put him down
Speaker 2: the neck, then I'll say, hey, I got some quarters.
Speaker 2: We'll get some we'll get some stuff on the way out.
Speaker 2: And they got like those machines, so like that, you know,
Speaker 2: quarters are valuable to me more so than just twenty
Speaker 2: five cents exactly. So that's my life like every day.
Speaker 2: Like that's manipulating my children to you know, behave Like
Speaker 2: that's that's kind of how it works. But anyways, when
Speaker 2: it's pennies in my car and I'm cleaning it out,
Speaker 2: I just throw them away and I used to and
Speaker 2: I still it still feels weird, but like they're just
Speaker 2: in the way. My wife, on the other hand, if
Speaker 2: she has changed, just as rare as me having changed.
Speaker 2: We do have a bucket that is in our laundry
Speaker 2: room where we do our laundry, and we every year
Speaker 2: before we go on vacation, we end up and if
Speaker 2: we have like extra ones and whatnot, and sometimes like
Speaker 2: if we have a random five, we'll put that in there.
Speaker 2: So each year we end up taking a few hundred
Speaker 2: bucks with us on vacation that we use as spending money.
Speaker 2: So like it works out there, but really the value
Speaker 2: is more so just realizing, hey, we got an extra
Speaker 2: five or a few ones, and that's where that's where
Speaker 2: it adds up. So change in general is just not
Speaker 2: something I typically have a lot of. But man, pennies
Speaker 2: I have no time for and Apparently Donald Trump is
Speaker 2: reportedly considering getting rid of the penny. This is interesting.
Speaker 2: This is from This is actually from iHeart dot com.
Speaker 2: So you know it's legit that s is Trump's Department
Speaker 2: of Government Efficiency, which is led by billionaire Elon Musk,
Speaker 2: sure to post on x as social media platform owned
Speaker 2: by Musk, claiming that it now costs three cents to
Speaker 2: produce a penny, which of course is triple the value
Speaker 2: and cost taxpayers an estimated one hundred and seventy nine
Speaker 2: million in the fiscal year of twenty twenty three. So
Speaker 2: it says here the penny cost over three cents to make,
Speaker 2: and the US calls you know, has all that number.
Speaker 2: But it says the met produced over four point five
Speaker 2: billion pennies in fiscal year twenty twenty three, around forty
Speaker 2: percent of the eleven point four billion coins for circulation
Speaker 2: produced penny or three cents for your thoughts, the department wrote,
Speaker 2: citing articles by JM. Bullion and coinnews dot net. So,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's one of those things that I really
Speaker 2: wouldn't know what the issues could be if you get
Speaker 2: rid of it, Like do you just I mean, if
Speaker 2: everybody's got a round up or down because of that.
Speaker 2: Then you know that adds up with everybody in our
Speaker 2: country to wear. Even though it's just a penny, it
Speaker 2: still is going to be you know, uh, something you
Speaker 2: got to be mindful of and probably isn't gonna be
Speaker 2: super easy, but I would I would be all in
Speaker 2: on getting rid of the penny. I mean, here's the thing.
Speaker 2: If they stopped making it doesn't mean we're not going
Speaker 2: to have it. Like, is there is there a like
Speaker 2: when did the two dollars bill go away? Right?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great question, I mean because it was there. Ever,
Speaker 2: I mean, I've in my whole life, I've always just
Speaker 2: known that that that two dollars bills were really rare.
Speaker 2: But I've seen them and I knew people that had them.
Speaker 2: In fact, I had a buddy whose dad collected them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: says when did two dollars bills stop being produced in
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty six? Wow, due to a lack of demas.
Speaker 2: And however, however, they were reintroduced in nineteen seventy six
Speaker 2: as part of the countries by centennial celebrations. So I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: they haven't been printed, but they are still considered legal tender.
Speaker 2: So uh, I think when that, when that happened and
Speaker 2: we no longer had the two dollar bill, maybe people
Speaker 2: were worried. In fact, I feel like I could you
Speaker 2: and well, I don't know. In a previous economy, a
Speaker 2: two dollars bill would be kind of valuable, like you
Speaker 2: can because you could get things that were right under
Speaker 2: two dollars, and you know, it's here we go. Nowadays,
Speaker 2: what are you buying that's less than two dollars. There's
Speaker 2: not a soda, not candy, Like what is less than
Speaker 2: two dollars? Not much of anything. I used to cash
Speaker 2: my checks at Ups, the store right down the street
Speaker 2: always gave out two dollar bills because there would always
Speaker 2: be like in Okay, as rare as I thought they were, but.
Speaker 4: Like it just seemed like every time, like whether I
Speaker 4: had like whatever one hundred and sixty two dollars or
Speaker 4: sixty seven dollars or sixty dollars nice or something with
Speaker 4: just like an odd number like that, then we would
Speaker 4: always we would always get the two dollar bill. And
Speaker 4: I heard there's like a lore that two dollar bills
Speaker 4: are like lucky.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've heard that too, really lucky. I've heard
Speaker 2: that for years. In fact, that's why people they were
Speaker 2: rare and lucky, which is why it became a thing
Speaker 2: that a lot of people wanted. And it's back speaking
Speaker 2: of currency. My my daughter, she's got like a little
Speaker 2: a little play cash register. It's like where she can
Speaker 2: like check out groceries. This little toy thing that you know,
Speaker 2: makes it look like she's checking somebody out at the
Speaker 2: grocery store. And she's got a little register and it
Speaker 2: came with money, and the money looks insanely real, And
Speaker 2: the only way to know for sure that it's real,
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at it, if you look
Speaker 2: at it long enough, you'll be able to tell. It
Speaker 2: looks kind of funny. But when blended together, because she
Speaker 2: has her money that's in her toy register, and then
Speaker 2: she also has money that she's received, like for Christmas gifts,
Speaker 2: and she of course wants to keep it in her
Speaker 2: purse and all that, so she puts it all together,
Speaker 2: not knowing that one is real and one's not, because
Speaker 2: you know, she's it's just her. But I'm I'm scared
Speaker 2: to death of getting some money mixed up to where
Speaker 2: I go and pay and get arrested for Like I'm
Speaker 2: I'm very very paranoid about getting in trouble, even though
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think I break the law
Speaker 2: very often. I've never been in trouble in my life.
Speaker 2: Got my first speeding ticket like a year ago, so
Speaker 2: you know, it's not like I got a criminal past.
Speaker 2: But I mean I'll randomly see a twenty dollars bill
Speaker 2: on the ground that I'm like, well, surely that's not
Speaker 2: that's not real, And it takes me a while to,
Speaker 2: like you to know for sure. So you know, there
Speaker 2: are people who can make counterfeit money that you know.
Speaker 2: I'm a nerd for documentaries, and I've seen how the
Speaker 2: level of like if you're somebody that has the ability
Speaker 2: to recreate and you have the method that makes it
Speaker 2: seem as real as possible, you know, you're kind of
Speaker 2: behind the scenes. You're not actually the one that's out there,
Speaker 2: like you can get caught, but you know, it's almost
Speaker 2: like having a supplier for drugs, right, like you never
Speaker 2: give up, you never give up a plug. It's a
Speaker 2: no no. Well, the people who are in fact out
Speaker 2: they're printing money that looks real, you know, they tend
Speaker 2: to not actually ever get caught as much as those
Speaker 2: because it's not that big of an offense. If you
Speaker 2: get caught with fake might, I mean, you can clearly
Speaker 2: get arrested. It's a criminal charge, but I think actually
Speaker 2: producing it, manufacturing it would be a much more severe charge.
Speaker 2: And those people seem to be seem to get away
Speaker 2: with it. All right, quick break, We've got the five
Speaker 2: o'clock hour coming up next. Can't believe how fast the
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