WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.960 --> 00:00:05.919 It's nice with Dan Ray. I'm Boston Radio. 2 00:00:08.240 --> 00:00:11.759 All right, welcome back everyone. I want to thank my 3 00:00:11.839 --> 00:00:14.279 guest and my cars. Last hour, I thought that was 4 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:19.199 a very interesting hour, and as a consequence, I'd like 5 00:00:19.239 --> 00:00:22.719 to stick with this hour because it's pretty apparent from 6 00:00:22.760 --> 00:00:26.920 what I have read, uh that the Mass Teachers Union, 7 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:31.000 the leadership of the Mass Teachers Union, a guy by 8 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:33.840 the name of Max Page, and his vice he's the 9 00:00:33.880 --> 00:00:36.240 president of the union, and his vice president, you know, 10 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:41.079 have an agenda here. And the agenda is to uh 11 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:50.159 work into the curriculum and a viewpoint that that I 12 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:54.960 strongly disagree with, that the Anti Defamation League strongly disagrees with, 13 00:00:55.359 --> 00:00:58.560 and maybe that you strongly disagree with. And I don't 14 00:00:58.600 --> 00:01:07.120 think this sort of propaganda, disguised as it is as 15 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:12.599 teaching resources or learning resources. When you see these pictures, 16 00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:21.680 these these it's nothing more than anti Israeli, anti Semitic propaganda. 17 00:01:22.239 --> 00:01:27.439 And I will talk about this for as long as 18 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:30.799 my audience wants to tonight. If you have an interest 19 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:33.480 in this, now's the time to reach for your phone 20 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:36.120 six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty. And if 21 00:01:36.159 --> 00:01:40.079 you want to defend what the Mass Teachers Association is doing. 22 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:44.480 It's a very powerful institution here in Massachusetts, one hundred 23 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:50.200 and seventeen thousand teachers. I'm sure the vast overwhelming majority 24 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:55.480 of those teachers are interested in being in the classroom 25 00:01:55.879 --> 00:02:00.280 and helping the students, be they in kindergarten, any from 26 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:05.599 kindergarten to grade twelve. I have no concern. My kids 27 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:11.120 went to public schools throughout elementary school into junior high school. 28 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:16.240 They had some wonderful public school teachers. I've had public 29 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:19.560 school teachers, My wife had public school teachers. I probably 30 00:02:19.599 --> 00:02:22.400 wouldn't be doing what I'm doing today if it hadn't 31 00:02:22.439 --> 00:02:25.719 been for a ninth grade civic school teacher at Boston 32 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:28.319 Latin School back in the day, a guy by the 33 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:34.120 name of mister Dougherty who taught Civics and really lit 34 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:39.479 within me an interest and a passion for how learning, 35 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:43.280 how government works, and part of government. Now are the 36 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:49.159 unions that are very strong voices for their membership at 37 00:02:49.199 --> 00:02:51.840 the state houses around the country and of course in Congress. 38 00:02:52.680 --> 00:03:01.599 And when the union voice strays from just advocacy for 39 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:07.479 their membership and starts to get into politics, raw politics, 40 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:12.639 international politics, that is when it really gets scary. So 41 00:03:12.680 --> 00:03:16.960 I'm gonna I want to hear from teachers. I want 42 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:19.360 to hear from you, I want to hear from parents. 43 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:23.280 Is this the sort of garbage that you want your 44 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:28.360 kids exposed to? Nothing more than political propaganda. It happens 45 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:34.240 to be anti Israeli and anti Semitic political propaganda. But 46 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:38.560 you should not be be exposed as a student in 47 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:42.599 kindergarten through the twelfth grade to propaganda. You're supposed to 48 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:47.560 be exposed to subjects which will prepare you later in 49 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:50.240 life to deal with those issues. Let me go to 50 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:53.879 Tom and Rochester. I'm assuming it's Rochester, Massachusetts. Tom, go 51 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:55.800 right ahead, it is Dan. 52 00:03:55.879 --> 00:03:58.520 I got in the last minute of the last hour. 53 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:04.159 My point that I wanted to make was how important 54 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:11.319 the the effort that our our neighbors put into the 55 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:16.480 local election for the school board. It is the it 56 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:22.720 seems to be the the avenue to affect our society. 57 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:27.120 It's very important. You see how active these people are 58 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:28.759 in their school boards, right. 59 00:04:29.319 --> 00:04:30.079 Yeah, it is. 60 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:36.079 The struggle seems to start there and the Mass Teachers Association, Uh, 61 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:41.839 they're affected by that. They can they also affect that. 62 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:50.600 It's like, ultimately this seems to be the it seems 63 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:54.560 to be the battleground the schools. 64 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:56.199 And well it is. No. I think you're right on that, 65 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:58.879 and I didn't realize that you had held over. But 66 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:00.680 I'm glad. I'm glad you did because we did. 67 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:02.879 I didn't mean to be twice I didn't mean to 68 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:04.040 be twice indulged. 69 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:06.759 It's just no, no, no, no, no no no. I've 70 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:08.759 taken you here because I felt you got short change. 71 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:11.759 The point you were making is important, and I've made 72 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:16.639 this point to others in terms of elections. Everybody gets 73 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:20.360 excited about a presidential election, whether you're a Republican, a Democrat, 74 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:25.560 you know, liberal, conservative or whatever. But you represent probably 75 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:28.319 one out of I don't know what it is these days, 76 00:05:28.319 --> 00:05:30.920 one hundred and seventy one hundred and seventy five million 77 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:34.800 votes something like that, whatever it is. When you when 78 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:37.519 you vote in a governor's race, you you're you're one 79 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:42.000 of four million residents in Massachusetts, citizens in Massachusetts who 80 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:45.519 are eligible to vote. You're wanting about four million, So 81 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:50.399 your vote is stronger in a governor's race, you know, 82 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:53.759 as a percentage as it would be in a presidential race, 83 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:56.879 because you're just it's one over you know, one hundred 84 00:05:56.879 --> 00:05:59.279 and seventy million as opposed to one over four million. 85 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:02.600 But in the local race, you vote really matters, and 86 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:05.920 you vote really counts. And the influence that you can 87 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:10.120 exercise in your community by holding out a sign for 88 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:12.399 a candidate that you happen to believe in, who's running 89 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:16.800 for city council or for school committee, those are the important, 90 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:19.160 the most important elections in my. 91 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:21.439 Well, well when it when it comes to teaching our 92 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:26.680 children and KYW towering to be in the Massachusetts Teachers Association, yes, 93 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:30.240 then then there's then there's kind of a synergy there. 94 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:36.680 If you look at George Soros and Bill Gates and 95 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:42.720 and Mark Zuckerberg, they know how to amplify their money, right, 96 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:46.519 they know how to best spend their money to influence 97 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:47.879 things well. 98 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:51.600 There as also there are also multi billionaires and so 99 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:53.160 they have so much money. 100 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:59.879 You know, you can, you can, you can do. 101 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:02.360 Let me finish my points on if I could, because 102 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:05.040 I think the point you made is important. Sorrows is 103 00:07:05.040 --> 00:07:07.480 on one side of the political spectrum. At this point, 104 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:11.000 Zuckelberg apparently has switched from the side that he was 105 00:07:11.040 --> 00:07:14.160 on with Sorrows and now he's over on the other side. 106 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:17.319 But in either case, the amount of money that they 107 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:20.439 have available is it's you know, exponential go ahead. 108 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:26.160 Well, so so Gates. What I understood from Gates was 109 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:32.000 to multiply his money by spending it smart by and 110 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:37.319 so so this was kind of interesting. Where do you 111 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:39.759 spend your money? If you have so much money to spend, 112 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:47.360 you can throw it after in the George Jeb Bush election, 113 00:07:47.560 --> 00:07:51.639 right the in that twenty sixteen and just throw it away, 114 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:55.680 Or they're right. People throw a lot of money away 115 00:07:56.600 --> 00:08:00.959 affecting national elections. But people spend real, really good money 116 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:02.519 affecting local elections. 117 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:06.519 And the best example and local election. 118 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:08.000 I don't know if you could hear me or not, 119 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:08.480 but the. 120 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:10.279 Smart money, that's the smart money. 121 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:13.600 Yeah, I don't know if you're able to hear me, Tom, 122 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:16.759 But the best example that you just alluded to is 123 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:20.879 what Soros did with district attorney elections around the country 124 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:24.439 in Boston, in Chicago, in New York, in Philadelphia, in 125 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:27.680 Los Angeles, and in San Francisco, St. Louis and other 126 00:08:27.720 --> 00:08:32.120 major cities. Uh, those district attorneys, many of them now 127 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:35.039 who he helped elect, have been moved out of the 128 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:41.480 office Rachel Rollins here in Boston, George Gascon in Los Angeles. Uh, 129 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:46.960 the the DA in San Francisco. U who who was? 130 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:50.440 Who was? Who was recalled? But yeah, those are very 131 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:53.960 important elections. Tom. I appreciate your time, and I appreciate 132 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:55.919 the point that you that you made. Thank you very 133 00:08:55.960 --> 00:08:58.799 much for holding through the news. Appreciate it very much. 134 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:03.759 I'm going to give you folks an opportunity if you 135 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:08.080 want to follow up on what we talked about last hour. 136 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:11.799 I'd like to continue to talk about the dangers of 137 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:16.480 anti Semitism as it creeps within our society and as 138 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:20.840 it now creeps within the school system. If not, I'm 139 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:23.279 going to change topics. I've got a topic to go to. 140 00:09:23.399 --> 00:09:26.759 But I'd like to stick with the anti semitism topic 141 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:30.080 that we opened up last hour. We had some excellent 142 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:33.320 phone calls last hour, we had excellent guests, and I 143 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:36.120 would like to stay with it. Uh, if you'd like 144 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:38.600 to join us six one, seven, two, five, four ten 145 00:09:38.679 --> 00:09:41.759 thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty And 146 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:46.360 if not, is the audience who always decides how long 147 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:49.720 the topic stays up for discussion, and if not, we 148 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:53.279 will move on to different topics right after this quick 149 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:54.919 break on night Side. 150 00:09:55.080 --> 00:09:58.080 Now back to Dan ray Line from the window World 151 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:01.279 Light Side Studios on w b in twvidio. 152 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:05.240 All right, let's get back to the phone calls. We're 153 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:08.000 going to go to Ruth in Brookline. Ruth, I appreciate 154 00:10:08.039 --> 00:10:10.120 you calling in. Go right ahead. What's on your mind? 155 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:10.399 Ruth? 156 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:12.279 Well, okay, can you hear me? 157 00:10:12.919 --> 00:10:13.440 I can hear you? 158 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:18.360 Oh great, great. So I was at that hearing last 159 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:22.679 week in the State House as a spectator and it 160 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:25.960 was it was pretty shocking. I just wanted to mention 161 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:30.559 emphasize one thing that came up earlier, but I want 162 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:34.200 to put a put a greater point on it. The notion. 163 00:10:34.600 --> 00:10:40.080 The notion, the notion that there was materials included in 164 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:44.480 in those so called resources that were geared toward first grade. 165 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:49.840 You mentioned them earlier, but Max Cage, they tried, they 166 00:10:49.919 --> 00:10:54.799 tried to sort of justify their materials by saying, we 167 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:57.960 don't well he did, we don't necessarily agree with these 168 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:02.600 points of view. The Union is a democratic entity and 169 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:06.759 I can't really control, you know, what my members, what 170 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:10.000 people come up with. And I'm not saying I always 171 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:12.559 so so, but the notion that and and then he 172 00:11:12.639 --> 00:11:16.200 made the point that we're trying to present our teachers 173 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:20.480 with diverse viewpoints. Of course there was only one side, 174 00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:25.720 so it wasn't diverse quote unquote, but the notion that that, 175 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:29.320 in other words, you you you could make the case that, oh, 176 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:33.240 we're showing you these materials so the teachers can can 177 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:37.399 demonstrate how bias they are or something like that. But 178 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:41.519 but that whole argument was undercut by these first grade 179 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:48.200 materials that were so clearly, you know, like bias isn't 180 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:51.840 even the word for it. I mean, imagine having they 181 00:11:51.879 --> 00:11:56.679 even they even had exercises. They took the little girl's name, 182 00:11:56.799 --> 00:12:03.639 the Palestinian girl who was you know, expelled from her home. 183 00:12:04.039 --> 00:12:08.679 That was the narrative, and part of the workbook assignment 184 00:12:08.919 --> 00:12:12.519 was to for a child to just write that little 185 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:14.480 girl's name many times, you know. 186 00:12:14.639 --> 00:12:17.240 As as a matter of fact, I think what you're 187 00:12:17.240 --> 00:12:22.919 referring to is Hondala's Return, which was published last year 188 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:28.519 by the Palestinian Feminist Collective, include storylines such as a 189 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:33.000 group of bullies called Zionists on our land, so they 190 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:36.279 stole it by force and hurt many people. The book 191 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:40.200 ends with a call to action, urging readers meaning little kids, 192 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:44.799 to help Cadella Free Palestine, asking them to fill in 193 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:48.440 prompts such as, I will raise funds for the children 194 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:53.200 of Palestine by whatever, or I will chant this at 195 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:57.919 a Palestinian protest. And then another part was they wanted 196 00:12:57.919 --> 00:13:02.360 to have the children just writing the name of the 197 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:03.799 room girl Handala. 198 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:05.320 Yeah, exactly. 199 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:10.559 It's brainwashing. It's worse than pidate. It's brainwashing, I know. 200 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:12.639 I mean, but for him to try to make the 201 00:13:12.679 --> 00:13:16.080 point that, oh, we're just trying to present teachers with 202 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:20.159 diverse materials and they can choose what they want to use, well, 203 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:24.480 I'm sorry, like first graders, I mean, a first grade 204 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:27.600 teacher isn't going to look at that and say, gee, 205 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:30.840 this is I'm going to make an evaluation of this, 206 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:33.240 and this shows a diverse point of view. It was 207 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:37.120 a ridiculous argument that, you know, carry no weight. I 208 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:39.279 just want to make one other point that hasn't been 209 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:43.360 made earlier this evening, which is that part of the 210 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:52.679 legislation that created this, this legislative Commission also included like 211 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:56.360 a recommendation or actually a mandate to the to the 212 00:13:56.559 --> 00:14:03.600 state Department of Education and DESI to come up with 213 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:10.399 resources and materials on anti Semitism on their website, and 214 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:16.440 to engage in trainings and professional development for teachers across 215 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:20.120 the state in the area of anti semitism. That was 216 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:25.360 that's a that was a section of the legislation that 217 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:28.960 created this commission. So I just wanted to emphasize the 218 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:34.679 fact that the state Department of Education, they currently have 219 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:38.039 put up some materials. I think that there's a lot 220 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:41.480 more they could be doing. And as you probably know, 221 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:46.840 in Massachusetts, we don't have a state mandated curriculum. We 222 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:51.320 have state standards, but really curriculum is very much locally 223 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:56.679 based and locally determined. But nonetheless, the Department of Education 224 00:14:56.879 --> 00:15:00.120 really has a role to play here and I'm I'm 225 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:04.919 really hoping that they will you treat this issue with 226 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:10.080 the urgency that it deserves, especially in light of what 227 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:12.279 we see the MTA is now doing. 228 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:15.600 Yeah, well, I think that the Department of Education has 229 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:19.320 a responsibility. I also think the governor and the Attorney 230 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:22.279 General have a responsibility to know what's going on if 231 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:30.639 the schools are propagandized, and they need not stand aside quietly. Ruth, 232 00:15:30.679 --> 00:15:32.480 I appreciate you, Carl, Thank you so much. 233 00:15:32.519 --> 00:15:35.080 Appreciate it, Thank you, thank you for the program. 234 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:37.159 Okay, bye bye, my pleasure. 235 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:40.039 We had a bunch of folks who were on the line, Rob. 236 00:15:40.120 --> 00:15:43.120 I don't know where they went, but if they want 237 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:45.039 to call back, that's great. If not, we're going to 238 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:47.360 move on after the break to a different subject. In 239 00:15:47.399 --> 00:15:50.480 the meantime, let me jump on here quickly with Darryl 240 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:53.320 up in New Brunswick, Canada. Darrel, appreciate you calling in. 241 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:57.480 Go ahead, Hey, Dan, I've been trying to listen, but 242 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:02.200 our snowstorms and whatnot from there, I just caught the 243 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:05.799 Hidala thing about the girl from Palestine. 244 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:11.240 Yeah, yeah, we got there, Daryl. Not to take a 245 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:13.120 lot of time to explain it. But the issue here 246 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:17.919 is that the Massachusetts Teachers Union Teachers Association, I should 247 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:21.879 say one hundred and seventeen members have been accused by 248 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:28.200 some Anti Defamation League back members back here of basically 249 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:34.320 being anti Semitic and basically trying to get pro Palestinian 250 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:39.759 and anti Israeli and therefore anti Semitic propaganda into Massachusetts 251 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:43.960 classrooms who curriculum bite distributed. 252 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:49.639 Well, that's where we can hopefully help this out. Is 253 00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:52.480 what about this young girl talking about all the young 254 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:55.159 children that were killed October seventh. 255 00:16:56.879 --> 00:17:01.080 Well, again, I don't think that, frankly, in the anywhere 256 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:05.599 from kindergarten to twelfth grade. I agree with you that 257 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:09.279 this whole thing started on October seventh, and it was 258 00:17:09.319 --> 00:17:11.799 not started by the Israelis, who were started by Hamas 259 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:14.799 on behalf of Palestinians. I don't think it. I want 260 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:18.440 to blame Palestinians for that. I blame Hamas, who in 261 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:22.640 effect have kept the Palestinians captive, if you will, almost 262 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:26.559 holding the Palestinians hostages before they took the Israelis the 263 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:30.519 Israeli hostages. But what is going on here is that 264 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:34.240 we have, you know, people in this leadership of this 265 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:36.720 teachers union who have a political point of view that 266 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:42.920 they want to see basically distributed within the school system. 267 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:45.720 And they're trying to do it by some very underhanded means, 268 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:47.759 and they've been called out on it, and that's why 269 00:17:47.799 --> 00:17:48.119 we did it. 270 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:51.400 And that's wrong. The program and teachers are supposed to 271 00:17:51.400 --> 00:17:55.519 teach students. So what they need to know, yeah, not 272 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:57.720 their political Yeah. 273 00:17:57.759 --> 00:17:59.599 I would think that Darryl, this is the sort of 274 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:01.839 stuff that would be in a college curriculum, our graduate 275 00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:06.440 school curriculum, not in in in elementary school, not in 276 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:08.799 what we call middle school or high school. And I'm 277 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:12.359 sure those terms are the same in Canada. 278 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:15.480 Yeah, being overseas, we've seen that same thing, and even 279 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:18.079 in Canada, that's where it starts in the lower grades. 280 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:22.079 But that's why you keep up good programming, because this 281 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:24.799 is why we listening. We respond, all. 282 00:18:24.759 --> 00:18:27.160 Right, Paul, I appreciate it very much, and we'll have 283 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:29.720 to see how that big hockey game turns out later 284 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:31.440 on this week. Okay, thanks buddy. 285 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:34.200 Let's let's actually with you, with you saying that, let's 286 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:35.599 hope nobody boozed nothing. 287 00:18:36.599 --> 00:18:38.119 I'm with you on that. I'm with you. 288 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:40.440 We're allies through and through right. 289 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:45.319 Absolutely absolutely have a lot of friends friends, all right, 290 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:47.960 thanks Daryel, and you're included amongst them. Have a great night. 291 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:50.000 Good night. We'll take a break. Here's the news at 292 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:51.640 the bottom of the ear. We're going to change topics 293 00:18:51.640 --> 00:18:53.920 on the other side. We'll be back after this. 294 00:18:55.839 --> 00:19:00.920 It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's new radio. 295 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:06.759 All right, I'm gonna take I'll take a couple of 296 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:08.839 more calls if you want, and if not, we're going 297 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:12.920 to switch topics. I am frankly surprised that my audience 298 00:19:13.039 --> 00:19:18.440 is not perceptive enough to realize that anti Semitism has 299 00:19:18.519 --> 00:19:24.880 been with us for millennium, from millennia UH, and it 300 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:30.079 is reared its ugly head, never more viciously than the 301 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:36.119 Nazi Holocaust. And if we don't stamp out UH and 302 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:42.440 at least address this cancer within our society, it will 303 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:46.640 continue to grow. If you'd like to join this conversation, 304 00:19:46.920 --> 00:19:48.880 I'll give you one more chance. I'm going to go 305 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:51.599 to Joanna in Stowe, and if Joanna is it, we 306 00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:55.039 will change topics. Joanne, appreciate your call. Whatever your point 307 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:56.720 of view, you go right ahead, Joanna, how are you 308 00:19:56.759 --> 00:19:57.279 going to heay? 309 00:19:57.359 --> 00:19:59.759 Thank you? I'm doing okay. I've been a teacher me 310 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:02.960 Instachusetts for thirty six years, and I have all these 311 00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:05.720 years trusted my Union to do what is right by students. 312 00:20:05.880 --> 00:20:09.400 As a teacher, primarily, I see all my students as 313 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:13.079 human beings, regardless of their ethnicity, religion, the way they look, 314 00:20:13.160 --> 00:20:16.759 what they believe. And I'm frankly horrified at what the 315 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:20.559 Union has done with these resources. I was at the 316 00:20:20.559 --> 00:20:25.079 board meeting. I spoke against the resources. I can't understand how, 317 00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:29.680 after seeing one of another teacher hold up those posters 318 00:20:29.720 --> 00:20:31.960 and I felt like we made really good points, how 319 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:36.880 people could possibly vote to keep those resources. There are 320 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:40.319 problems at so many levels. At one level, whereas the 321 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:44.720 communication max page says that educators board members asked for 322 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:47.400 these resources, I didn't ask for them. I'm not sure 323 00:20:47.440 --> 00:20:50.680 who did ask for them. So there's a problem in communication. 324 00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:54.279 How are the people on the board communicating with their 325 00:20:54.319 --> 00:20:58.680 teachers they supposedly represent. I've never before kind of been 326 00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:01.759 at a board meeting at that level, but I felt 327 00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:06.000 like I had to. On the website, I don't honestly 328 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:11.160 disagree with the rationale. For example, the MTA says on 329 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:15.400 the website that their goal is to make school safe 330 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:19.319 places for students. They encourage members to condemn hate speech 331 00:21:19.359 --> 00:21:22.559 and discrimination, and they also say that anti Semitism has 332 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:25.759 no place in the Union. Yet I have if you 333 00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:29.680 can think even a little bit, you understand that those 334 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:35.079 words are completely contradictory to the images. And I'm a 335 00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:38.359 teacher who is doing what I can to fight against 336 00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:41.960 this lunacy. And obviously it's a lot more than that. 337 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:45.039 It's really dangerous and I fear for the kids in 338 00:21:45.079 --> 00:21:49.880 Massachusetts who might have to be subjected to people teaching 339 00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:54.759 this and indoctrinating them and glorifying hatred, etc. I mean, 340 00:21:54.799 --> 00:21:57.119 I could go on and on, and I really appreciate 341 00:21:57.200 --> 00:22:01.000 that you have this show today. I don't often listen 342 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:03.640 to the radio, but I'm really happy to kind of 343 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:04.200 take part. 344 00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:04.799 In the discussion. 345 00:22:05.319 --> 00:22:10.559 Well, Juanna, first of all, you extraordinarily well spoken, and 346 00:22:10.680 --> 00:22:14.599 if every teacher in Massachusetts, whether it be a public 347 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:18.599 school teacher a private school teacher, embodied what you've just 348 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:21.200 expressed to us, you've expressed it better than I could. 349 00:22:22.200 --> 00:22:25.759 And I'm supposed to be a broadcast professional, So thank 350 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:29.680 you for joining our conversation tonight. I don't know if 351 00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:31.519 you've ever called my program before. 352 00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:32.079 Listen. 353 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:34.519 I never called your program before. I haven't listened to 354 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:36.519 the radio in so long, I was saying to my husband. 355 00:22:36.519 --> 00:22:39.559 We used to listen all the time. So yeah, no, 356 00:22:39.640 --> 00:22:40.160 I haven't. 357 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:44.759 First of all, a round of applause for my digital 358 00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:52.279 studio audience, But in all seriousness, radio and talk radio 359 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:56.000 is extraordinarily important. Okay, I've been doing this for eighteen years. 360 00:22:56.039 --> 00:22:58.680 I was a TV reporter for that and before that 361 00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:02.000 for thirty one years on Channel four. And I do 362 00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:04.960 this not because I have to do it. I'm well 363 00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:08.200 passed what would be considered a normal retirement age of 364 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:10.920 sixty five. But I do it because I like it. 365 00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:13.079 And I also do it because I think it's important 366 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:19.799 that there are organizations which are great organizations. As I said, 367 00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:21.799 my kids have gone to public schools when they were 368 00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:24.559 when they were kids in elementary school into junior high school. 369 00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:29.440 They're very successful. And the greatest foundation they had was 370 00:23:29.480 --> 00:23:32.119 the teachers that they had. And I remember, you know 371 00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:36.039 their names, June O'Neil and Linda Fayle and mister Conley, 372 00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:38.640 and I mean, they were just wonderful teachers. 373 00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:39.359 Uh. 374 00:23:39.920 --> 00:23:44.079 And I'm not even sure what union those teachers belonged to. 375 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:48.359 And and I'm a union member. I'm a member of 376 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:51.440 SAG after so I understand that just because you're a 377 00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:54.599 union member, you don't go along with everything. But I'm 378 00:23:54.680 --> 00:24:00.440 looking at the images that you've seen, the the two 379 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:05.759 dollar bills shaped in a triangle to represent a star 380 00:24:05.839 --> 00:24:08.880 of David. I mean that is a blood libel. That's 381 00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:14.640 a trope that's been around for centuries. The day of Rage, 382 00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:20.559 the handles return What was taken by force can only 383 00:24:20.599 --> 00:24:24.920 be returned by force. This is nothing but Hamas propaganda. 384 00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:30.039 It's not even pro Palestinian. It's Hamas propaganda, plain and simple. 385 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:33.000 And anybody who sees it for anything other than that 386 00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:35.559 is ignorant if. 387 00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:37.400 They don't understand what it is. 388 00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:42.839 And for the leadership of this union to allow those 389 00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:47.599 anti Semitic tropes to be circulated to teachers who many 390 00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:49.920 of whom perhaps are not as experienced as you are, 391 00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:55.000 and would somehow expose students to that, I mean, what 392 00:24:55.200 --> 00:25:03.960 a brilliant stroke by some propaganda. I mean they they're 393 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:07.480 basically doing the work that Goebbels did in the nineteen 394 00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:11.319 thirties in Nazi Germany. You know, he was the great 395 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:15.680 propagandist for Hitler, and this is more of the same. 396 00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:20.720 And it's frightening. It's absolutely fright I'm not Jewish. Just 397 00:25:20.839 --> 00:25:23.680 make it very clear. I'm somewhat disappointed that I have 398 00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:26.039 not heard from more of my Jewish listeners, and I 399 00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:27.839 have friends of mine who are Jewish who listen to 400 00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:31.039 this show every night. I happen to be Roman Catholic, 401 00:25:31.039 --> 00:25:33.880