Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray ONBZY, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: I'm just hold on, Nicole. We got a week left
Speaker 2: in January, and pretty soon the truck will be leaving
Speaker 2: for Florida, the baseball truck and spring training will be here.
Speaker 2: So just hold on. It's a cold night in New England,
Speaker 2: but we are through, when you really think about it,
Speaker 2: more than two thirds eighty percent of January. That's not bad.
Speaker 2: That's all in the rearview mirror. Everybody know it's cold,
Speaker 2: going to be cold weekend, but just stick with it. Okay,
Speaker 2: stay warm, stick with it. Baseball will be here soon.
Speaker 2: My name is Dan Ray. I'm the host of Nightside,
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Speaker 2: at at your app store, and if you know what
Speaker 2: an app store is, you'll know what I'm talking about. There.
Speaker 2: And Rob Brooks is back in the control room. He
Speaker 2: is all set to get us started. Once we begin
Speaker 2: taking phone calls, and we will begin to making phone
Speaker 2: calls tonight at nine o'clock, we're going to talk about
Speaker 2: this coming year fiscal budget in Massachusetts, which includes tax increases,
Speaker 2: a number of tax increases proposed by the governor as
Speaker 2: well a cap on charitable deductions, which I don't think
Speaker 2: is a good deal at all, and a spending increase
Speaker 2: that the Governor's office says it's something like two point six,
Speaker 2: but you can look at it differently and you can
Speaker 2: think it's maybe six or seven percent. And we'll talk
Speaker 2: about that. And then at ten o'clock tonight, rest is
Speaker 2: not optional. We're going to talk with doctor Sondra Dalton Smith.
Speaker 2: She's the author of Sacred Rest, Recover your Life, Renew
Speaker 2: your Energy, and Restore your Sanity. And then of course
Speaker 2: we'll finish with the twentieth hour of the week, the
Speaker 2: last hour of the week, in which we will we'll
Speaker 2: come up with a topic that I hope everyone will
Speaker 2: respond to. Now, we have four guests coming up this
Speaker 2: hour in our night Side News Update, and we're going
Speaker 2: to begin with doctor Simone Alicia. She's an award winning
Speaker 2: motivational speaker and international personal development expert. And that all
Speaker 2: sounds really positive. But we're going to talk about one
Speaker 2: of the most destructive events I think domestic events in
Speaker 2: our lifetime, and that is this rash of fires out
Speaker 2: in California. Just unbelievable, Doctor Elisia, and welcome to Nightside.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Boston.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much for having me. Dan. I
Speaker 3: am happy to be here. Wish the topic was happier,
Speaker 3: but I'm happy to be here. Nonetheless, No, I totally.
Speaker 2: Get that, and I don't want to make it a
Speaker 2: down or but you actually are someone who can help
Speaker 2: people work through these situations. And look, I can't imagine
Speaker 2: what it's like for that community to have gone through
Speaker 2: what they have gone through. But all of us go
Speaker 2: through losses in our lives. You know, family members or
Speaker 2: close friends pass away. And we also do have our
Speaker 2: own accidents, you know, friends of mine, you know, in
Speaker 2: recent recent weeks, if someone calls us says they broke
Speaker 2: this or whatever. So how do you keep going? How
Speaker 2: do you cope with with any sort of a roadblock?
Speaker 2: But let's talk about how you cope with something as
Speaker 2: really apocalyptic as the Caniornia wildfires.
Speaker 3: Say thank you, yeah, thank you for making that bridge
Speaker 3: between you know, not only the wildfires, but a lot
Speaker 3: of things I go on in our lives, right, but
Speaker 3: with an extra special emphasis on this, like you said,
Speaker 3: apocalyptic situation. So one of the first things I want
Speaker 3: to start with, just so we can be on the
Speaker 3: same page, is that you know, some people will talk
Speaker 3: about this be positive, be positive, to the point where
Speaker 3: you're like, Okay, you know this is not a positive situation.
Speaker 3: What do you mean by be positive here? You know,
Speaker 3: it doesn't seem to apply. And so I want to
Speaker 3: kind of give everybody that safe space to know we're
Speaker 3: not going to just jump into just be positive. Instead.
Speaker 3: What the real magic here that's backed by science and
Speaker 3: research is that what we have going on in our heads,
Speaker 3: the way that we sess it and the way we
Speaker 3: frame it, the way we talk about it and think
Speaker 3: about it, lets us can let us heal and deal
Speaker 3: with it. So we deal in the present and we
Speaker 3: heal in the future. But that really has to do
Speaker 3: a lot with how we approach the problem. And that's
Speaker 3: what I would really love to talk about today, is
Speaker 3: how do we actually get into that, especially when it's
Speaker 3: at this level.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so going, I mean, it's tough. On the one hand,
Speaker 2: we're talking about the California fires, but I also want
Speaker 2: to make it apply to people who have suffered a
Speaker 2: recent loss, and that loss could be you know, a
Speaker 2: variety of things. How do you exactly well, I'm going
Speaker 2: to ask you how to bridge that gap? Can you
Speaker 2: talk both to people? I mean, I don't think there's
Speaker 2: anyone in California who's listening to us tonight who have
Speaker 2: suffered the loss of these thousands of people. But let's
Speaker 2: just like it. And I mean, we've all heard about
Speaker 2: that whole process, the range of emotions, grief, anger, and
Speaker 2: anxiety and then finally acceptance and all of that. And
Speaker 2: that's easy, right, But what do you tell people right?
Speaker 3: One hundred percent? So my perspective is a little bit different.
Speaker 3: I kind of go off the beaten path in some
Speaker 3: of the things that I've studied and the principles that
Speaker 3: I bring to the table. So the first thing I'd
Speaker 3: like to say is we have to let ourselves kind
Speaker 3: of deal with the things that are happening in front
Speaker 3: of us. We have to when people say keep it
Speaker 3: real and then we go straight to the negative. It's
Speaker 3: not always just the negative things that are real, right,
Speaker 3: Some of the positive things are real too. So what
Speaker 3: I've learned is that if we can kind of say
Speaker 3: this stinks and just kind of list that out faith
Speaker 3: that look at it in the faith, then we can
Speaker 3: kind of give ourselves a sense of release. But that
Speaker 3: release and relief that we get is really temporary. So
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't want it to be temporary. We
Speaker 3: want long term results. We want to long term you know,
Speaker 3: feel better. So what I've come up with is this process,
Speaker 3: and I call it the refill and the release to me,
Speaker 3: the relief and refill process. And hear, what you do
Speaker 3: is you actually kind of think of it as the dentist. Now,
Speaker 3: nobody loves the dentist usually, but let's think of this example.
Speaker 3: So if you've got a cavity, right, that would be
Speaker 3: a negative thing in your life or and your experience
Speaker 3: in the moment. Of course, when you go to the dentist,
Speaker 3: they got to scoop the negative thing out. But we
Speaker 3: don't just scoop it out and then just leave the
Speaker 3: dentist's chair. Right. We don't walk around with this gaping
Speaker 3: hole in our head and just like walking around because
Speaker 3: then it's going to get worse. It'll get filled in
Speaker 3: with whatever it's kind of flying by, and it's going
Speaker 3: to make it worse. So the biggest piece that I've
Speaker 3: brought to this concept of maybe journaling or releasing is
Speaker 3: that you have to be intentional and deliberate about refilling.
Speaker 3: This is where you take a look at your situation
Speaker 3: and you lift for real the things that are not working,
Speaker 3: Like this is terrible, this is horrible, Like I cannot
Speaker 3: believe this, and you just let go. You just released
Speaker 3: with just like reckless a band and let it out.
Speaker 3: But on the very next, let's say page, if you're
Speaker 3: writing in a journal, you literally go and you refill
Speaker 3: and you start writing things that are a little bit
Speaker 3: more on the hopeful side. But it's not false or
Speaker 3: fake or pretend positivity. It's legitimate. You know what is working.
Speaker 3: You know this part of my family is safe, or
Speaker 3: you know I still have a roof over my head,
Speaker 3: and you really start searching, and I call this seeking
Speaker 3: your happiness. You know, we kind of sit back sometimes
Speaker 3: and real like I just want happiness to kind of
Speaker 3: flu in, sit on my lap and just make me
Speaker 3: feel better. But sometimes we got to go out and
Speaker 3: search for it, and you know, we got to like
Speaker 3: really program the brain. And that's what it really comes
Speaker 3: down to is when I can do this process of
Speaker 3: releasing what's really like bothering me and just doing it
Speaker 3: day by day and then refilling It's something deeper is
Speaker 3: happening here because I'm changing the makeup of my brain.
Speaker 3: I'm literally creating neural pathways that say this is terrible,
Speaker 3: but I'll be okay. And when we have that pathway
Speaker 3: in the brain that says, you know what, it's terrible,
Speaker 3: but I'll be okay, then we build on that. Then
Speaker 3: we start having chemical emotions that are flowing through our
Speaker 3: bodies that match the it'll be okay part of things,
Speaker 3: and then we start to build resilience. So I'm not
Speaker 3: just saying, you know, you know, look in the mirror
Speaker 3: and say, oh I'm fine, and you know all as well.
Speaker 3: I'm really asking us to really, you know, just.
Speaker 2: Just bringing it back to California. As I watched just
Speaker 2: some of the news reports over the last few weeks,
Speaker 2: there have been some people who clearly they devastated, but
Speaker 2: they will say, look, absolutely the things in the house
Speaker 2: can be replaced back. There are some things that copy replaced,
Speaker 2: pictures and mementos and you know, family treasures and all
Speaker 2: of that. But they talked generally about the house's brick
Speaker 2: and mortar, or it's wood and shingles or whatever, but
Speaker 2: the family's okay. Everyone got out on time, or people
Speaker 2: were away when it happened, or the pets got out.
Speaker 2: So there were people out there who always seem to
Speaker 2: look at you know, it's the old glass half full,
Speaker 2: half empty argument. But those people looked as if they
Speaker 2: were handling it better than the people who were not
Speaker 2: able to focus on any aspect. There was one woman
Speaker 2: who found her wedding ring. I saw a story. I
Speaker 2: forget which network was on it. Her focus was on
Speaker 2: this wedding ring that had been lost and she found
Speaker 2: it in the rubble. And he asked, Wow, the miracles
Speaker 2: that you hear about, It's like, how is that possible?
Speaker 2: You know, you have a book, and I think there's
Speaker 2: a lot more in the book than we have time
Speaker 2: to covered tonight. So let's talk about how folks can
Speaker 2: get more information on you, and how perhaps they can
Speaker 2: they can get to some whatever book you have right
Speaker 2: now that because a lot of people will listen and
Speaker 2: they'll be intrigued. So give us the name, and what
Speaker 2: can they do to get in touch with you or
Speaker 2: find some of your work, oh for sure.
Speaker 3: So the book I woant have referenced today is actually
Speaker 3: a journal called the Release and Refill Journal, and it
Speaker 3: lets you guide you through that process of releasing that
Speaker 3: pain and refilling. And I just want to say, Dan,
Speaker 3: I really appreciate how you added that story about who
Speaker 3: people who seem to sound more like you know, Well,
Speaker 3: that's stuff, and people are safe. They have a program
Speaker 3: they're running in their minds already and we can all
Speaker 3: learn that program. So that's what I hope to help
Speaker 3: people to do, is to kind of reinstall that mental
Speaker 3: programming that helps us to kind of, like you said,
Speaker 3: see the glass half full. That it always depends on
Speaker 3: how we approach the glass, whether we think it's full
Speaker 3: of off or empty, rights where we are when we
Speaker 3: see the glass. So yeah, the book is called Release
Speaker 3: and Refill. It's a journal. It's available on Amazon, and
Speaker 3: it will go do through the steps of just releasing
Speaker 3: the negativity, being more intentional about the positivity, leading you
Speaker 3: to create different pathways in the brain and better emotion
Speaker 3: in your body to feel good from the actual inside,
Speaker 3: not pretending, not feaking, but genuinely helping your physical body
Speaker 3: to generate better feelings of resilience and coping and being
Speaker 3: able to get through pretty much anything. I love to
Speaker 3: say that we can overcome anything, and we can achieve everything.
Speaker 3: We just have to have the right tools to do so.
Speaker 2: Release and Refiel. I think it's one of those books
Speaker 2: that probably should be every family should have one and
Speaker 2: should be periodically reviewed in good times and and dad
Speaker 2: on amaz that's beautiful.
Speaker 3: Yep, that's beautiful. Thank you for that.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I really enjoyed our conversation. You
Speaker 2: have been a wonderful guest, and I'd love to have
Speaker 2: you back, maybe even in longer form. I might hit
Speaker 2: my producer get in touch, and maybe we'll get you
Speaker 2: to take some calls some night. Okay, that might be fun.
Speaker 4: Oh, listeners, I'm already there.
Speaker 3: Dan, you just say the word time and dating. I'm there.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: That's great, doctor, Simone, Alicia, thank you doctor. Have a
Speaker 2: wonderful weekend.
Speaker 3: You see, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: All right, when we get back here on Nightside, we
Speaker 2: will change topics just a little bit and we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about the danger of surrendering information through the Internet,
Speaker 2: particularly to apps, and when you want to delete the apps,
Speaker 2: how can you make sure that everything has been deleted. Uh,
Speaker 2: it's a conversation that I think we need to have,
Speaker 2: and we will have that conversation on the other side
Speaker 2: of this break.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nights Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Sorry, welcome back everyone. I'm delighted to be joined by
Speaker 2: James Lee. He's the president of the Identity Theft Resource Center.
Speaker 2: James Lee, welcome. We all know what identity theft is
Speaker 2: and some of us have suffered from that. And you're
Speaker 2: suggesting that maybe the apps that all of us who
Speaker 2: have smartphones, iPhones and all that, Uh, that maybe those
Speaker 2: apps are a portal into our privacy and into our identity.
Speaker 2: Am I right or wrong? Am I reading you correctly?
Speaker 4: You're reading that exactly right. And thanks for thanks for
Speaker 4: asking to come talk tonight.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of little stealthy ways we don't
Speaker 4: really think about how we were giving away our information
Speaker 4: and we're in many cases still compromising. The bad days
Speaker 4: don't have to come after us. We're giving the information
Speaker 4: away and we don't even realize we're doing. And apps
Speaker 4: are one of those ways that happened.
Speaker 2: Well, one of the things that bothers me is whenever
Speaker 2: I go on the Internet and I go on really
Speaker 2: and I order something you're giving you can't give them
Speaker 2: cash you've got in the store. You've got to give
Speaker 2: them one of your credit cards. And I'm thinking, well,
Speaker 2: how many people get that information? I mean, what's the
Speaker 2: security of this business that I'm buying the swift or
Speaker 2: sweeper or some other thing you see on late night television?
Speaker 2: Are we crazy to buy stuff through the internet?
Speaker 4: Generally thinking it's fine now, but we're in an area
Speaker 4: where artificial intelligence is making it really easy to set
Speaker 4: up a fake website, and so we have to be
Speaker 4: very careful about using only those sites and only those
Speaker 4: apps that we know are legitimate. And those are the
Speaker 4: ones that are they're run by recognized companies. They may
Speaker 4: be your local merchant, but you know them, so it's
Speaker 4: okay to use those. It's the ones where we don't
Speaker 4: really know anything about them, and they don't give you
Speaker 4: the option to not save your credit cards. A legitimate
Speaker 4: website is going to say this. You know, I'm here
Speaker 4: as a guest. I'm doing this as a guest, so
Speaker 4: I don't have to give you all of my information
Speaker 4: and you're not going to keep credit card if they
Speaker 4: don't pay you that option.
Speaker 2: But how I look, I've done that before and I said,
Speaker 2: you want us to keep your credit card on file?
Speaker 2: And I always say no, But how do I know
Speaker 2: they're not going to keep my credit card on file anyway?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's where that goes back to. You got
Speaker 4: to do business of people that you know when you crass.
Speaker 4: So if it's if it's a legitimate company that you
Speaker 4: know about, they're they're they're going to follow through because
Speaker 4: if they don't, they're going to have that credit card,
Speaker 4: the right to use that credit card processing, they're gonna
Speaker 4: have that pulled. If they don't do that, they don't care.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me push you forward to in the app.
Speaker 2: So someone goes on and pulls down an app. And
Speaker 2: again we're not talking appetizer. We're talking about you know,
Speaker 2: uh on the web. Here. They pulled down an app
Speaker 2: for some company and they say, you know what, I
Speaker 2: really don't want to still have that, so I want
Speaker 2: to delete it. What you're saying is you've got to
Speaker 2: go into the app before you delete it and individually
Speaker 2: delete whatever pieces of information you have voluntarily surrendered to
Speaker 2: them when you signed up for the app.
Speaker 4: Right, that's correct. It's not as simphile a's just going
Speaker 4: in and delete it in it's phone because that information
Speaker 4: that you gave them is still there after you've deleted
Speaker 4: the app. It may be off of your phone, but
Speaker 4: it's not out of their servers. They still have it.
Speaker 4: So the key to this is when you're getting ready
Speaker 4: to delete an app because you don't want it or
Speaker 4: need it anymore, that subscription's over or whatever, go in
Speaker 4: and you may have to go to the website if
Speaker 4: it's not on the app itself, but there'll be a
Speaker 4: place where you can delete the information that has been stored,
Speaker 4: and you need to do that first, and then you
Speaker 4: can go on and delete the app off of your phone.
Speaker 4: But you know, even when you're setting up that app
Speaker 4: for the first time, you need to be very cautious
Speaker 4: these days about they're going to keep my information even
Speaker 4: after I have stopped my subscription. Dating apps in particular
Speaker 4: are notorious for keeping that information after you've deleted it.
Speaker 4: You found love, you've moved on, you don't need the
Speaker 4: app anymore, but they still have your pictures, they still
Speaker 4: have all of your profile comments, and they use them
Speaker 4: for advertising, and you agreed to that when you set
Speaker 4: up that account.
Speaker 2: Read that seven page agreement that with the small print.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got it. We got to that better and
Speaker 4: looking for those things. A lot of times now it's
Speaker 4: it's a checkbox, but we'll just go through a check all,
Speaker 4: check all, checkoff. But don't do that. Don't do that
Speaker 4: if you're concerned about your privacy, if you're concerned about
Speaker 4: how your information, if you don't care, if it's not.
Speaker 2: All of us do.
Speaker 4: If you don't care that your photograph is going to
Speaker 4: still be hanging around internet somewhere, that's fine, don't worry
Speaker 4: about it. But if you do care, then do spend
Speaker 4: that time. Do spend that few extra minutes to understand
Speaker 4: how they're going to use your information?
Speaker 2: How do you do you do this? Obviously you you
Speaker 2: know a lot more about this than I do. Uh,
Speaker 2: most people would. How do you do it? As an
Speaker 2: individual person? You know, I mean all of us have
Speaker 2: our other you know, have our jobs, and you know,
Speaker 2: is there a service that that your company provides that
Speaker 2: is that's reasonable for people? Or you know you're giving
Speaker 2: us great information. I'm just saying, how is it that
Speaker 2: that we can you know we can We can't do
Speaker 2: it ourselves. I mean it seems to me unless am
Speaker 2: I right on that or wrong?
Speaker 4: No, once again, you're you're a spot on because it
Speaker 4: is daunting. This is not this is not what all
Speaker 4: of us do for a living. It's not even something
Speaker 4: we want to do as a hobby or is a
Speaker 4: casual activity. We we we do these things these days
Speaker 4: because that's the way you have to conduct commerce. That's
Speaker 4: if you're gonna if you're gonna be a participant in
Speaker 4: the economy, you've got to use these things. But it's daunting,
Speaker 4: especially when you decide I don't want to do anymore.
Speaker 4: So to your to your your question about are there
Speaker 4: are there ways to be helpful? There are. There are
Speaker 4: some tools that are built into the devices that help
Speaker 4: you identify. You know, you haven't used this subscription in
Speaker 4: six months a year, but you're still paying for it,
Speaker 4: or or it's still on your phone. It's still collecting
Speaker 4: information about you. So it can help you identify what
Speaker 4: you need to do with the apps you're using on
Speaker 4: your device, and the same thing on your laptop or
Speaker 4: your desktop. Those same tools exist, and if we need help,
Speaker 4: you can come to us. You can come to the
Speaker 4: I t R state. We're free to a consumer. All
Speaker 4: of our services are free. You don't pay for anything.
Speaker 4: And you need somebody to hold your hand and walk
Speaker 4: you through the steps, we'll do that.
Speaker 2: Really, so this is okay. So the Identity Theft Resource
Speaker 2: Center is free. How do people find you? Just ID
Speaker 2: Theftcenter dot org.
Speaker 4: That is it and everything else can go from there.
Speaker 4: There's a toll free number on there. If you want
Speaker 4: to talk to someone. There's the ability to do live chat.
Speaker 4: If you don't want to talk to somebody, you want
Speaker 4: to do it all by chat, we can do that.
Speaker 4: We have text to chat, so you can text it
Speaker 4: from your phone and it will still show up.
Speaker 2: Okay. So with our advisors, James, what supports your company?
Speaker 2: I mean you're not independently wealthy. What supports your company?
Speaker 4: We are supported in part by the Department of Justice.
Speaker 4: We have grants from the government who assist victims of
Speaker 4: identity crimes, and we also do a lot of research,
Speaker 4: and that research is paid by organizations. Sometimes they're companies,
Speaker 4: sometimes they're academic institutions. And we do sell services to
Speaker 4: small businesses and to government agencies. Even we sell data
Speaker 4: about data breaches, not the information about the individuals, but
Speaker 4: about why data breaches occur and when they occur.
Speaker 2: So last week, I'm now a huge fan of the
Speaker 2: Identity Theft Resource Center. So folks, you can go if
Speaker 2: you have any questions. I d V excuse me, I
Speaker 2: d Theft Center. So the ID Theft Center dot org.
Speaker 2: And there is a toll free number. And Rob, I
Speaker 2: want you to write this number down because listeners might
Speaker 2: call in during the next break triple eight four hundred
Speaker 2: five five three zero. So it's eight eight eight four
Speaker 2: zero zero five five three zero or ID Theft Center
Speaker 2: dot org. You got that info, Rob, hold on and
Speaker 2: with thank you much, James Lee, thank you. Love to
Speaker 2: have you back. I'm really serious. I'd love to have
Speaker 2: you back and talk to some of my listeners. We're
Speaker 2: doing an hour some night.
Speaker 4: Fair enough, fair enough, love to do it. You tell
Speaker 4: me when and I'll be there.
Speaker 2: Thanks James, Thanks very much. Have a great weekend. You
Speaker 2: know that's good. Thank you. That is great stuff. That
Speaker 2: is something that really helps. Okay, we're gonna talk about
Speaker 2: some adolescent risk taking. Uh, the amount of nicotine that
Speaker 2: young people are now using. Uh, it's a troubling Trend'm
Speaker 2: gonna talk with doctor Bonnie Helping Felcher. Uh. She's a
Speaker 2: professor of pediatrics at Stanford University. Coming up on the
Speaker 2: other side of the news at the bottom of the.
Speaker 1: Hour, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Those Bella Russia belaruss soccer games, I mean I watch
Speaker 2: those all the time. I mean they're they're exciting. I'm
Speaker 2: who the hell is gonna bet on a Belarus soccer game.
Speaker 2: It's just it's a beautiful world out there. Okay, let
Speaker 2: us let us now, docuh to doctor Bonnie halpern Felcher,
Speaker 2: Doctor Halper and Felscher, welcome to Night Side. And you're
Speaker 2: concerned about trends in team nicotine use, I am too,
Speaker 2: tell us about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hi, good evening, and thank you so much for
Speaker 5: having me on my show, on your show, not my shows.
Speaker 2: You probably have a show too. I'll come on your
Speaker 2: show for one sometime. Go ahead.
Speaker 5: No, I haven't reached lab though, however, And yes, we're
Speaker 5: very concerned about adolescent and young adult nicotine and tobacco use.
Speaker 6: So good news is cigarette use has.
Speaker 5: Certainly gone down in the last you know, two to
Speaker 5: two and a half decades, that's great, but we're seeing
Speaker 5: a continuous use of e cigarettes or vaping as people
Speaker 5: would say, as well as Zin the new pouches that
Speaker 5: have come out. So we're very concerned about all of
Speaker 5: those different products right now.
Speaker 2: What is Zin. It's spelled z y N. I knew
Speaker 2: Howard Zin, the crazy professor at BU when I was
Speaker 2: at BU law School many years ago. But z Yn
Speaker 2: what it's nicotine pouch?
Speaker 1: Tell us about that, correct?
Speaker 5: So it's the latest form of smokeless tobacco. This is
Speaker 5: a small white pillow like pouch and it has nicotine
Speaker 5: within it. It's nicotino is derived from tobacco, although the
Speaker 5: tobacco it self is taken out.
Speaker 6: But it's a nicotine pouch and you put it.
Speaker 5: Between your gum and your cheek and hold it in
Speaker 5: there and then you absorb the nicotine, nitrosamines. What other
Speaker 5: other chemicals are in there? There's son I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's what it sounds to me like chewing tobacco with
Speaker 2: the baseball players used to chew.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, very very similar.
Speaker 6: But the problem is that kids don't.
Speaker 5: Realize what's in them, and they don't have the history.
Speaker 5: And these have three or six milligrams.
Speaker 6: In nicotine, and kids are using multiple pouches at once, so.
Speaker 5: They're getting upwards of one or more packs of cigarettes
Speaker 5: with a nicotine in their body at any given time.
Speaker 2: You know, I know that you're very concerned about this issue,
Speaker 2: and I am as well. I don't know, just since
Speaker 2: I analogize that that pouch to, you know, try a tobacco.
Speaker 2: The baseball players, there was a pretty famous baseball player.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're sure. If you're a sports fan,
Speaker 2: you're probably not as old as I am. A guy
Speaker 2: named Bill Tuttle played for the Tigers and the Athletics.
Speaker 2: You should look him up. Bill Tuttle. He ended up
Speaker 2: literally losing his jaw to jaw cancer, and Major League
Speaker 2: Baseball back in the seventies and eighties used to bring
Speaker 2: him around to spring training camps and have him talk
Speaker 2: to the young players about the use of tobacco or
Speaker 2: the jaw as they called it, and kids, every kid
Speaker 2: in high school I think as a graduation picture or
Speaker 2: when they enter high school should get a picture Bill Tuttle.
Speaker 2: How horrible, horrible presentation, but I think it did a
Speaker 2: tremendous amount of good of goodwill and if you've never
Speaker 2: heard about him. It's a great story. I think you know,
Speaker 2: I think you would. You would enjoy seeing how it
Speaker 2: evolved because he went from you know, being a great
Speaker 2: young baseball player in the nineteen fifties in early sixties
Speaker 2: to somebody who was dealing with losing his job at
Speaker 2: jow cancer.
Speaker 5: Meaning, well, we are worried, we are worried. We don't
Speaker 5: know if Sin's going to cause the same problem because
Speaker 5: I haven't been around, but we're very concerned about jaw
Speaker 5: cancer and throat cancer and cavities and other issues, particularly
Speaker 5: for young people, and we're worried about their developing brains
Speaker 5: and addiction.
Speaker 2: Okay, so what happened here? What happened? You know, my
Speaker 2: parents' generation, we're all smokers. I must tell you, I've
Speaker 2: been involved. I've done a lot of stupid things in
Speaker 2: my life, but one of the stupid things that I've
Speaker 2: never done in my life is smoke a cigarette. And
Speaker 2: I'm very happy. And I think the reason I did
Speaker 2: smoke a cigarette was my dad smoked two packs of
Speaker 2: unfiltered Campbells a camel's a day, and I came to
Speaker 2: hate cigarette smoke. So he did me a favor actually
Speaker 2: and he went cold Turkey when the Surgeon General's report
Speaker 2: came out in sixty four and stopped smoking cold Turkey,
Speaker 2: which was in a amazing feet. Yeah's casual War two veteran,
Speaker 2: one of those guys smoking if you've got them, you're
Speaker 2: in war zone and you're smoking cigarettes to relax a
Speaker 2: little bit. So why has this generation now kind of
Speaker 2: doubled back. Is this a form of protest against their parents,
Speaker 2: who are for the most part non smokers. What's going on?
Speaker 5: No, No, I actually really don't think that that's what
Speaker 5: it is, because a lot of the young people are
Speaker 5: well aware that cigarettes are bad. We've done that part
Speaker 5: of public health. We've all done a really good job
Speaker 5: getting that message out. I think it has to do
Speaker 5: to be honest with social media and the flavors and stress.
Speaker 5: So social media, you know, these products now e cigarettes
Speaker 5: in other tobacco products are advertised on social media and
Speaker 5: their advertis will look cool, and teens don't think that
Speaker 5: they're cigarettes, that they're a form of nicotine or tobacco.
Speaker 6: They don't get it, and they think a just.
Speaker 5: Harmless water ape or harmless flavors or it's.
Speaker 6: Not a big deal, and it is.
Speaker 5: But they just don't understand it. And then the flavors,
Speaker 5: you know, unlike cigarettes, and now we just have mental
Speaker 5: A lot of these are the products. We have many,
Speaker 5: many thousands of different flavors that have been available over
Speaker 5: time on the market, and teens like the flavor and
Speaker 5: they like the bugs. There's so much nicotine in these products.
Speaker 5: And finally they're self meditating a lot of young people.
Speaker 5: We've done research on this and others that they're just
Speaker 5: depressed and anxious and scared right now. And when that happens,
Speaker 5: teens turned to nicotine, like you were saying, and during
Speaker 5: war as a way to relax, as a way.
Speaker 2: To ask a dumb question. But a professional I get
Speaker 2: paid to ask them questions as to talk about. So
Speaker 2: you're talking about this generation being scared and being anxious.
Speaker 2: The generation that I grew up with, we hit under
Speaker 2: our desks because we were fearful of ri clear attack.
Speaker 2: We lived through the Civil Rights era, we lived through
Speaker 2: the Vietnam War. Some of us served. And I don't
Speaker 2: understand kids today who are sixteen, seventeen, and eighteen year old.
Speaker 2: I've said this before on Normandy. They were a bunch
Speaker 2: of seventeen and eighteen and nineteen and twenty year olds
Speaker 2: hitting the beaches on d Day of nineteen forty four.
Speaker 2: Those people should have been anxious. Those people should have
Speaker 2: been scared to death. What if did these kids have
Speaker 2: any sense of history? They got it much better than
Speaker 2: the kids who turned of age in the early nineteen forties.
Speaker 2: I mean, what's not taught in school? You know what?
Speaker 5: No, it's it's fair. No, I think it's I think
Speaker 5: it's very true.
Speaker 6: I think it's fair.
Speaker 5: I think the difference is the current teens and young
Speaker 5: adults just came out of the pandemic where they just
Speaker 5: didn't have a way to have an outlet for their stress.
Speaker 5: They didn't have a way to have the conversations, and
Speaker 5: they were just them and their social media and them
Speaker 5: their computers and phones, and there wasn't really that outlet
Speaker 5: for them. I hear you, I totally hear.
Speaker 7: You in.
Speaker 2: Distress. Distress because they had to take zoom classes and
Speaker 2: sometimes out in public wear masks as opposed to the
Speaker 2: people who are carrying M one rifles or normandy And
Speaker 2: when jone of nineteen forty four, I think we've caddled them.
Speaker 2: I really mean that professor and I think that the
Speaker 2: schools are the schools not teaching in junior high school?
Speaker 2: You know they talk about you just say no, you
Speaker 2: know the drug anti drug programs of the eighties and
Speaker 2: all of that, which tended to be a failure. Are
Speaker 2: they not teaching about the dangers of nicotine the kids
Speaker 2: in junior high schools. We're the educators in all of
Speaker 2: this that I'm really I gave wound up on this one,
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry. I'm not being critical. I'm just saying
Speaker 2: that that these kids they got it better than many
Speaker 2: people that they realize, and they shouldn't be using that
Speaker 2: as an excuse for throwing a zim pouch in their
Speaker 2: mouth every day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, no, it's all it's all good points,
Speaker 5: and it's just different ways that we help them cope.
Speaker 5: And I think we're not helping them cope as much
Speaker 5: as we used to do. Whatever it might be. But
Speaker 5: on the education front that you're talking about, So, yes,
Speaker 5: you're right, the DARE programs and they just say, n
Speaker 5: oh no, don't work.
Speaker 6: They haven't worked for years.
Speaker 5: Our lab Our Reach lab at Stanford we have free
Speaker 5: curriculums that actually are being used in Boston throughout Massa
Speaker 5: Jesus throughout the whole country. They're free vaping and smokeless
Speaker 5: tobacco and cigarette prevention curriculums that are focused on just
Speaker 5: say kN ow, let's have knowledge.
Speaker 6: And we work on stress and coping with the young people.
Speaker 6: We work on.
Speaker 5: Nicotine understanding, We work on understanding flavors and marketing.
Speaker 6: And all that we've had success. We have seen a
Speaker 6: reduction and.
Speaker 5: We're hoping that teachers and school administrators will help.
Speaker 6: Unfortunately, the nicotine.
Speaker 5: Content is so high a lot of young people are
Speaker 5: becoming so we also need cessation resources for these teams.
Speaker 2: Professor, I hope that you might remember the name Bill Tuttle,
Speaker 2: look it up and get that into high school curriculum.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of kids when they see the
Speaker 2: picture of this guy, you know, as a ballplayer in
Speaker 2: the fifties, and when he looked like fift what he
Speaker 2: looked like fifteen or twenty years later, I think there'd
Speaker 2: be some real shock value there. Anyway, I really appreciate
Speaker 2: your time, and I know I don't want you to
Speaker 2: think I gave you a hard time, But I don't
Speaker 2: get a chance to talk to professors at Stanford University
Speaker 2: very much and I've really enjoyed the conversation with you,
Speaker 2: Doctor Bonnie Helping Felcher. How can folks get in touch
Speaker 2: with you? Do you have some sort of a book
Speaker 2: that you'd like to recommend for parents to read?
Speaker 5: Yeah, please come to our reach Lab website Stanfordreachlab dot
Speaker 5: com or just google Stanford reach Lab at and you'll
Speaker 5: be able to find us and come check out our
Speaker 5: free resources and curriculums that.
Speaker 6: We have for you.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Stanford University has the toughest business
Speaker 2: school to get into of every business school in the country.
Speaker 2: I want to go on.
Speaker 5: The record, I love it. I love it. I'm not
Speaker 5: part of that admissions committee thankfully, but.
Speaker 2: You're part of Stanford University, a great school. It has
Speaker 2: some pretty good athletes coming out of there as well.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, doctor Bonnie Helping Fellship. Back on
Speaker 2: Nightside right after this with one more guest.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on w b Z.
Speaker 2: The news radio. We are one not the guest, Norbot Heiser,
Speaker 2: a health and wellness educator, entrepreneur, and author. I'm going
Speaker 2: to talk about five G technology. This is an area
Speaker 2: that I really don't quite understand. As well as probably
Speaker 2: our guest will, and maybe as well as some of
Speaker 2: you will. Five G technology is making headlines and joining
Speaker 2: us now. Is Norbert Hawser, mister Hauser? I hope I
Speaker 2: I've gotten close to the correct pronunciation of your last name,
Speaker 2: was said Heiser, Actually Oyser.
Speaker 7: But don't worry, it's me. It's me, It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: That's fine. I'm going to call you Norbert then, if
Speaker 2: that's okay with you. What is our bread five G technology?
Speaker 2: I'm not the most hit guy on three G, four G,
Speaker 2: five G. What are we talking about here? What's the danger?
Speaker 7: Well, it started with one G in the nineteen eighties,
Speaker 7: and with every G the gene just means generation, the
Speaker 7: first generation, second generation, third generation, and with every generation
Speaker 7: it became more tricky, more dangerous, more harmful, more technology,
Speaker 7: more speed, more options for business, and so on. And
Speaker 7: five G, which we have now, which we consider new,
Speaker 7: is not new. It has been around ninety since nineteen sixties,
Speaker 7: used by the armies as a weapon.
Speaker 2: So now it's going to be available to all of us,
Speaker 2: I assume in the not too distant future, if not
Speaker 2: already on our own computers on our iPhones and cell phones.
Speaker 7: Correct, Yeah, the majority is four G and five G
Speaker 7: took over and there's some areas where five G is
Speaker 7: not completely but about so we consider nowadays we're talking
Speaker 7: five G.
Speaker 2: Okay, now as I understand that the problem is what
Speaker 2: they call the hidden risk of electro magnetic fields EMFs.
Speaker 2: What's the danger in the EMFs? What? What should we
Speaker 2: be aware of?
Speaker 7: The I use the term electromagnetic radiation. It's the radiation,
Speaker 7: and the radiation harms the human body, there's no question,
Speaker 7: and plants and animals alike, and soarm forth. The problem
Speaker 7: is that the world is based on electromagnetic radiation. So
Speaker 7: you cannot make a cell phone call without electromagnetic radiation
Speaker 7: or use Wi Fi without electromag variation. You needed to
Speaker 7: use this technology, but the people who created it never
Speaker 7: created it as a safe tool which doesn't harm the
Speaker 7: human body. It harms, there's no question. There's plenty of
Speaker 7: proof for that.
Speaker 2: I remember when cell phones were first coming into popular use,
Speaker 2: oh back in the late nineties and early two thousands,
Speaker 2: and there were some studies done on whether or not
Speaker 2: the use of cell phones were increasing brain cancers. Have
Speaker 2: those studies ever been either proven or disproven? Are they
Speaker 2: still an open question?
Speaker 7: Well, it's always where the business is is the proof?
Speaker 7: There's no question. Look, every third person at the moment
Speaker 7: dies of cancer, every third person, and the numbers getting worse.
Speaker 7: Now you tell me why is every third person dying
Speaker 7: of cancer? What do you hear out there in the world.
Speaker 7: What's the reason? They don't talk about the reason? So
Speaker 7: to my definition, yeah, before you do that.
Speaker 2: Fifty years ago, what was the percentage of people dying
Speaker 2: of cancer? If we know?
Speaker 7: Oh minimum, the same for Parkinson, the same for Alzheimer's. Okay,
Speaker 7: it's all the same. These illnesses increased with the usage
Speaker 7: of Wi Fi and there's plenty of study. There's a
Speaker 7: fantastic book which I recommend on my website. I don't
Speaker 7: tell the book. It's called The Danger of five G
Speaker 7: written by a whistle blower from the Canadian Army, doctor
Speaker 7: nor Jerry Flynn, and he was a specialist in warfare
Speaker 7: using this technology, and he admitted it later we screwed
Speaker 7: up the same Berry Trauer from England, whistleblower from the
Speaker 7: English Army using this technology as a weapon, and they
Speaker 7: all explain it and they all tell Now, well we
Speaker 7: screwed up. We shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 2: So if four G, five G, et cetera is everywhere everywhere,
Speaker 2: what can the average individual do to avoid it.
Speaker 7: If anything, you can't avoid it, it's over. It's too late.
Speaker 7: When I started my venture twenty years ago, this is
Speaker 7: how long I'm working on this subject. I had places
Speaker 7: in every household which was safe. But now you have
Speaker 7: Wi Fi everywhere, so it doesn't work anymore that you
Speaker 7: switch off your cell phone or you switch off your
Speaker 7: Wi Fi. If you switch off your Wi Fi and
Speaker 7: you go on your computer, the computer offers you five
Speaker 7: ten Wi Fi connections from your neighbors all around you, right,
Speaker 7: which means it's there, whether you switch off yours or not.
Speaker 7: So it's too late what it is, and this is
Speaker 7: where I worked on for the last twenty years to
Speaker 7: provide a technology where the Wi Fi the elect radiation
Speaker 7: is not harmful to the human body anymore. We dunify
Speaker 7: the negative effect. Now that sounds fantastic, and it is fantastic,
Speaker 7: but most people will not believe it. So I had
Speaker 7: more all my products being scientifically tested by the Institute
Speaker 7: in Austria over a thousand, five hundred pages. They did
Speaker 7: test on the human body, for example, being exposed to
Speaker 7: a cell phone and being then with my product protected
Speaker 7: that before and after on the human body, no question.
Speaker 7: On my website, improve your Life dot us, Improve your
Speaker 7: Life dot us. You can read all those documentations. You
Speaker 7: don't need to believe me. But the point is we
Speaker 7: have to. I had to, and some people do it
Speaker 7: as well, not so many to give a technology to
Speaker 7: counter what the big industry is lacking because they never
Speaker 7: had to prove that a cell phone is harless. Never ever.
Speaker 2: Your website improve your life us do us dot us?
Speaker 2: Excuse me, improve your life dot us. Doctor Heiser, Let's
Speaker 2: talk about bringing you back for a longer period of time,
Speaker 2: because I think you have much more to say, and
Speaker 2: I've run out of time this hour, but I'll have
Speaker 2: my should get back in touch with you.
Speaker 7: Okay, Well I'll be happy. I'll be happy. Well, there's
Speaker 7: much more to be said, there's no question, And the
Speaker 7: point is it's getting worse but not better.
Speaker 2: Well, fine, let's let's try to We'll try to work
Speaker 2: with you and try to help. And I thank you
Speaker 2: very much for the work you've done over these decades.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it very much.
Speaker 7: Well, thank you for having me, sir, thank you for
Speaker 7: giving the opportunity to get some truth out there.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll have you back when we get back.
Speaker 2: Right after the nine o'clock news, are going to talk
Speaker 2: about the return of Taxachusetts here in the good old
Speaker 2: Commonwealth of Massachusetts.